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B
C
A
A
B
Okay,
thank
you,
and
I
would
also
like
to
just
point
out
and
remind
the
committee
that
item
number
two
is
part
of
the
consent
agenda,
so
we
won't
have
discussion
or
any
action
on
that
other
than
approving
it
as
part
of
the
consent
agenda.
D
E
F
B
Okay,
since
this
is
a
public
meeting
audience,
members
are
permitted
to
comment
on
any
issue
that
is
within
this
committee's
purview
planning
director
have
have
you
received
any
requests
from
the
public
to
make
comments
at
this
time.
Yes,.
A
G
Great
wow,
this
is
soon
logged
in
yeah.
Basically,
in
in
my
letter
that
I
wrote
this
morning,
I
really
want
the
architectural
advisory
committee
to
take
a
look
at
this
project.
It's
it's
pretty
bad
from
a
design
standpoint.
It's
just
got
it's.
I
don't
want
to
get
down
to
why
it's
bad.
G
It
just
is,
but
the
main
thing
is
is
that
you
know
we're
known
as
a
city
of
architecture
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
great
vintage
architecture
and
that's
what
brings
everybody
here
for
these
heritage
tours,
but
you
know
going
forward.
We
have
to
pay
more
attention.
These
developers
have
certain
rules
and
regulations
about
what
they
can
do,
based
on
size
or
location
or
all
that
sort
of
stuff,
but
we
have
to
encourage
better
architecture
than
this
I
mean
the
stuff
that
we
have
in
downtown
right
now
is
is
really
pretty
bad.
G
I
mean
it
was
done
under
a
compromised
city
council,
as
we
all
know,
but
we're
not
that
way
anymore.
So
I
think
that
we
need
to
take
a
better
look,
encourage
better
architecture,
and
you
know
just
that
should
be
an
important
part
of
the
conversation
about
not
just
the
size,
location
or
what's
going
to
happen
with
the
building,
but
what
it
looks
like
because
it's
there
for
a
long
time-
and
you
know
we
have
to
look
at
it.
G
So
I
think
I
really
want
to
encourage
you
to
be
very
critical
of
this
particular
because
this
this
could
be
anywhere.
This
has
nothing
to
do
with
palm
springs.
What
they're,
putting
up
could
be
in
any
city
anywhere
in
the
country
and
most
of
the
buildings
downtown
actually
could
also
be
in
any
place
anywhere
in
the
country,
and
I
do
real
estate
and
most
of
my
clients
say
to
me
what
happened
in
downtown
who
let
that
happen?
Why
is
that
looking
like
that?
G
B
H
I
have
one
comment.
It
looks
like
I
voted
on
everything,
but.
I
B
Anybody
else
have
any
revisions.
A
Okay,
mr
chair,
as
part
of
your
motion
on
the
consent
agenda,
it
will
include
not
only
the
minutes
but
also
item
number.
Two
just
note
under
item
number:
two
staff
is
going
to
be
making
a
request
on
a
minor
modification
to
the
change
in
the
color
of
the
roofing
materials,
but
we
will
handle
that
at
a
staff
level.
B
B
Second,
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
all
in
favor
hi.
Okay,
thank
you
approved
new
business
item
number
three,
as
we
heard
has
been
moved
to
a
date
certain
in
the
future.
So
we're
going
to
move
to
item
number
four:
a
request
by
fumiko
docker
of
pencil
box,
architects,
inc
on
behalf
of
cookies
for
a
minor
architectural
application
and
a
sign
permit
application
to
paint
two
exterior
columns
in
cookie,
blue
and
install
signage
at
a
new
cannabis.
Dispensary.
A
B
D
K
Yes,
yes,
okay,
so
this
is
a
proposed
exploration
to
a
new
cannabis
facility
located
at
seven
north
palm
canyon.
K
So
this
business
is
a
new
canvas
dispensary
for
city
opera
and
dr
ken
is
proposing
to
repaint
two
columns
in
the
cookies
blue
and
then
also
to
install
a
new
signage,
and
the
proposed
project
does
require
reviewing
approval
by
the
aac
and
the
city
council.
The
signage
review
ends
with
aac.
However,
the
exterior
painting
of
the
collins
does
require
city
council
review
as
well,
and
these
are
the
photos
of
the
project
site
cookies.
Building,
it's
a
very
a
simplistic
building
right
now
the
business
will
be
occupying
the
ground
level.
K
Attendance
space
that
faces
on
north
canyon
drive-
and
this
is
a
purpose
color
cookies,
blue
and
aprican
also
provided
the
products
that
the
business
will
be
providing
at
the
site
and,
as
you
can
see,
this
blue
is
their
signature
color
and
they
explained
that
their
intent
is
to
promote
their
california
grown
cannabis
brand
and
also
this
color
was
actually
taking
from
that
desert
sky.
K
Application
proposes
to
paint
two
columns
and
I,
as
you
can
see,
they
are
proposing
to
paint
two
columns
that
are
the
closest
to
their
the
business
suite
and
then
also
proposing
to
install
a
windows.
Signage
staff
finds
that
the
proposed
signage
exceeds
the
maximum
allowable
letter
height
and
then
also.
G
Because,
with
compensatory
palm
springs,.
K
K
However,
that
we
can
explains
in
the
justification
letter,
there
was
a
part
of
the
packet
that
the
color
was
taking
from
the
desert
and
also
the
stuff
finds
that,
based
on
the
typical
desert,
neutral
color
palette,
painting
the
columns
in
a
cookie's
boozing
consistent
with
the
general
plan
community
design
guidelines
policy,
which
encourages
the
use
of
desert
neutral
colors,
such
as
white
by
beijing
brown.
K
However,
the
proposed
signage
color
is
consistent
with
the
general
plan
design
guideline
policy
and
for
the
reason
the
staff
recommends.
Aac
approve
the
proposed
signage
subject
to
the
conditions
required
by
staff
which
are
included
in
the
report.
However,
I
recommend
the
denial
of
the
proposed
painting
of
the
two
columns
to
the
city
council
and
that
this
concludes
the
stock
presentation
and,
after
africans
are
also
available.
If
you
have
any
questions,
thank
you.
B
L
B
The
threshold
okay,
thank
you.
Anybody
else
have
questions
and
staff
is
the
applicant
present,
and
if
so,
would
they
like
to
make
a
presentation.
B
M
M
Cookies
is
very
excited:
anticipating
the
opening
of
our
first
retail
location
in
palm
springs,
where
we'll
be
hiring
local
staff,
bringing
our
best
practices
for
operating
and
maintaining
buildings
constructed
of
this
age,
1979,
generating
revenue
and
generally
participating
as
a
responsible
business
owner
in
palm
springs.
We
thank
noriko
and
her
team
for
their
review
as
well.
I
wanted
to
make
mention
of
the
photograph
shown
in
the
presentation
also
were
taken
after
cookies
remedied
some
pre-existing
tenant
loose
tenant.
I
guess
improvements
over
what
was
there
before.
M
We
also
noticed
a
variety
of
color
palette
being
used
to
accentuate,
I
guess
other
architectural
elements
up
and
down
the
block.
We
were
also
seeking
to
understand
what
the
restrictions
around
the
color
palette
specifically
are.
So
we
know
what
is
or
is
not
indicative.
You
know
our
blue.
We
do.
We
are
of
the
opinion.
It's
a
sky,
blue.
The
desert
has
beautiful
sky
that
you
can
actually
see
on
your
screen
right
there
that
we
think
conforms
pretty
nicely.
M
L
I'm
sorry,
what's
on
mute,
I
echo
ali's
thanks
to
noriko
for
walking
us
through
the
planning
process.
We're
really
grateful
for
her
to
her,
especially
because
kovid
presents
its
own
set
of
restrictions.
L
I
did
want
to
share
following
up
on
ally's
request.
Let
me
just
bring
up
the
file.
We
we're
taking
a
look
at
the
sorry,
I'm
having
trouble,
locating
it
at
different
street
facades
on
the
same
road,
north
palm
canyon
drive
and
we're
hoping
because
this
is
a
california-based
brand
and
it's
in
keeping
with
this
desert
blue
sky
that
we
could
accentuate
the
two
columns
of
an
otherwise
you
know
very
neutral
building
and
okay.
Here
it
is.
K
K
L
And
we
just
as
a
note,
we
do
understand
more
concretely
the
requirements
of
the
signs,
especially
area.
So
we
will
be
working
with
noriko,
based
on
your
recommendations
to
reduce
the
quantity
and
the
size
of
the
signs
per
the
requirements,
including
the
10
inch
letter
height
and
the
16
inch
maximum
logo.
Size.
L
You
all
right,
if
I'm
sharing
now,
we
just
wanted
to
share
some
of
the
facades
that
we've
noted
on
north
palm
canyon
drive
in
the
vicinity,
and
we
were
hoping
that
sort
of
in
keeping
with
some
of
these
other
buildings
that
have
included
some,
not
necessarily
beige
desert
neutral,
if
it's
a
strict
interpretation
of
beige,
browns
and
tans.
L
L
This
is
a
much
older
picture,
some
interest
beyond
the
the
off-white
neutral
color
that
that
it
is
now.
L
L
L
Sorry,
I
have
dual
monitors,
so
it's
not
allowing
me
to
here.
We
go
thank
you
for
bearing
with
me
anyway,
there's.
These
are
some
of
the
facades
that
we
find
along
north
palm
canyon
drive,
and
we
were
hoping
that
we
could,
in
keeping
with
these
apply
some
color,
specifically
the
blue,
beyond
the
the
beige,
and
it
would
be
somewhat
in
keeping
with,
for
example,
these
pink
accents
and
lime
green
accents
that
you
see
on
other
building
facades,
and
we
hope
it's.
M
Yeah
so
I
think
just
to
wrap
up,
then
you
know
what
cookies
is
seeking
to
do
is.
Obviously
you
know
it
is
still
conforming
with
the
uptown
district.
M
It
is
in
an
attempt
to
also
guide
customers
from
you
know
the
parking
lot
in
we've
since
remedied
the
former
tenants,
paint
and
signage
at
the
request
of
the
city,
so
we
are
incurring
additional
expense
as
well,
and
then
the
photos
that
we
showed
here
today,
just
kind
of
show
you
an
even
darker
blue
tone
that
was
originally
incorporated
as
part
of
this
building,
the
greens,
the
blues,
the
purples,
the
vibrancy
that
you
would
find
up
and
down
north
palm
canyon
and
the
around
the
surrounding
streets
there.
M
So
you
know
it's
our
part
of
our
opinion
that
we
think
that
this
one
conforms
to
the
desert
palette
that
they
seek
to
uphold
and
then
two
also
satisfies
off
us
on
our
on
our
brand
journey.
So
with
that,
thank
you
for
your
time.
B
Thank
you
ali.
Thank
you
fumi.
At
this
point
we
would
normally
have
public
comments
planning
director.
Has
there
been
any
comment,
any
request
for
public
comments.
B
D
I
have
a
question
for
staff
when,
on
the
mark
was
a
tenant
in
that
space
was
all
that
signage
and
the
painting
of
the
low
wall?
Was
that
all
permitted,
or
was
that
unpermitted.
J
K
It
is
my
understanding
that
the
painting
of
the
the
wall,
the
shoulder
wall
in
the
green
that
was
not
permitted.
As
for
signage,
I
have
to
check.
However,
it
looks
like
it
looks.
There's
more
than
the
sign
I
mean,
I'm
sorry,
the
quantity
of
a
signage
that
was
found
that,
on
the
mark,
seems
a
lot
more
than
what
the
zoning
code
would
allow.
However,
we
did
the
amending
the
zoning
code
regulations
for
signage
also,
so
that
is
something
that
requires
a
staff
research.
A
Mr
lock,
here
what
we
can
do
is
review
the
approved
landscape
plan
for
the
property
and
see
if
there
are
landscape
materials
that
perhaps
have
been
removed
or
have
not
been
replaced
and
have
them
reinstalled.
So
again,
staff
will
go
ahead
and
verify
if
the
building
is
compliant
with
its
approved
landscape
plan.
Okay,.
C
Have
a
question
tom,
if
noriko
or
the
applicant
there's
like
a
second
or
third
picture
down
that
shows
the
palm
canyon
elevation
and
if
there's
a
way
to
point
out,
you
know
from
their
drawing
that
you
know
their
storefront,
but
exactly
which
columns
that
we
would
see
in
that
photograph
would
have
the
blue
color
on
them.
K
So
the
columns
that
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
paint
are
the
two
columns
that
are
closest
to
the
business.
I'm
not
sure
if
you
can
see
my
cursor
okay,
so
this
one
right
here
and
this
column
right
over
here
so
from
a
different
angle.
This
column
right
here
and
this
one
in
the
back
oops
sorry
this
one
in
the
back
right
here.
C
B
N
Quick
was
there
anything
proposed
for
the
little
that
wall,
the
signage
wall
in
front,
where
the
currently
says
420
lounge,
or
is
that
there's
no
signage?
For
that.
M
No
longer
part
of
the
packet
due
to
comments
that
we
had
received
from
the
city,
would
you
like
to
speak
to
that
at
all.
L
Yes,
as
we
understand
from
noriko,
because
it's
a
multi-tenant
building
that
freestanding
sign
location
can't
dedicate
a
sign
to
any
one
retail
business
in
the
multi-tenant
building.
So
we
removed
it
and
I
believe
the
420
lounge
has
or
will
be,
removing
the
sign
their
existing
sign
as
well
to
be
compliant
with
the
zoning
laws.
M
It's
not
necessarily
our
lounge.
It
is
under
leased
by
us
right
now,
so
we
are
not
endeavoring
to
do
anything
with
the
rest
of
the
space
due
to
a
variety
of
a
mixture
of
covid
and
also
hardship
concerns
due
to
the
amount
of
expense
we've
had
to
put
forth
to
get
the
dispensary.
On
the
first
floor,
open
and
operational.
B
Okay,
any
other
questions
of
the
application.
B
J
I
I
think
that
the
blue
color
of
the
columns,
especially
the
fact
that
they're
aligned
in
elevation
along
that
east
facade,
I
don't
find
it
all
that
offensive.
N
Here
I'll
go
yeah
I
mean
I
actually
think
the
blue
color
is
fine.
I
I
was
actually
looking
it's
the
same
color
as
the
one
of
the
m's
from
the
modernism
logo.
So
in
a
way
I
don't,
I
don't
have
an
issue
with
the
with
the
blue
color
as
an
accent
on
those
two
columns.
C
You
know
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
an
opportunity.
I
know
they
are
only
one
tenant
in
this
building,
but
I
think
there
could
be
an
opportunity
to
to
do
something
with
the
columns,
not
just
those
two
but
all
the
columns.
That
would
provide
some
continuity,
but
it
would
almost
look
better
if
the
ones
along
at
the
entrance
to
the
garage
and
some
additional
ones
along
the
front
edge
were
painted
versus
just
those
two
that
kind
of
disappear
into
the
to
the
garage
area.
C
Yeah,
you
know,
I
think
staff
kind
of
hit
it
right
on
this
one.
I
think
the
the
columns
to
me
strike
me
as
an
all
or
nothing
kind
of
thing.
This
isn't
the
type
of
building
that
that
tends
to
divide
up
or
bifurcate
into
specific
street
frontage
presentations.
C
C
J
C
You
know
the
approach
by
tenants
justifiably
is
to
you
know,
focus
on
their
spaces
and
whatnot,
but
I
don't
know.
I
think
I
think
it
could
look
not
good
if
if
it
starts
getting
confused
and
chopped
up
in
terms
of
a
presentation
of
what's
going
on
to
the
street,
so
I
I'm
I'm
inclined
to
to
support
staff's
findings
on
this.
I
think
they're
justified.
B
Thank
you.
Have
we
heard
from
john
mccoy
any
comments.
E
I
have
nothing
new
to
add
gonna
pass.
Thank.
D
Yeah,
I'm
kind
of
in
I'm
in
agreement
with
member
walsh's
comments.
I
think
just
to
have
two
columns.
Blue
is
just
inconsistent
with
the
building.
I
don't
think
it's
really
going
to
enhance
the
customer
attraction
to
cookies,
and
so
I
I
wouldn't
be
in
favor
of
painting
the
loose
columns
blue.
D
D
But
I
personally
don't
think
that
I
think
there's
probably
a
more
effective
place
for
them
to
put
their
signs
than
on
the
windows,
because
half
of
it
is
in
the
dark
of
the
parking
area-
and
I
I
would
just
say
you
know,
take
another
stab
at
where
they
should
go
on.
The
mark
had
a
blade
sign
on
the
face
of
the
building
and
they
also
had
a
a
sign
on
the
another
sign
on
the
face
of
the
building.
D
I'm
sure
they
were
not
all
legal,
but
I
think
in
terms
of
pedestrian
traffic
and
even
vehicular
traffic.
The
signage
that
they're
proposing
on
the
windows
is
going
to
be
lost.
So.
B
Thank
you-
and
I
agree
with
with
robert's
comment
that
I
think
the
signage
does
get
kind
of
it
doesn't
have
much
value
to
it,
especially.
B
I
was
in
that
parking
lot
today
and
the
two
windows
that
are
furthest
west,
one
of
them,
had
a
big
suv
parked
in
front
of
it
and
the
other
it
was
in
such
a
dark
area.
You
wouldn't
see
a
logo
on
those
windows,
so
I
don't
see
why
I
don't
see
a
need
for
the
applicant
to
apply
for
that,
especially
since
that's
going
to
exceed
the
quantity
that's
allowed.
I
appreciate
and
thank
the
applicant
for
responding
to
noriko's
information
about
reducing
the
letter
size
and
the
the
size
of
the
logos.
B
But
yes,
I
think
if,
if
it
were
a
blade
sign
or
something
a
little
different,
I
think
it
might
really
catch
your
eye.
The
other
thing
that
might
affect
this
is
on
your
drawings.
You've
mentioned
that
a
mirrored
film
is
going
to
be
applied
to
the
existing
windows.
B
B
Graphics
on
the
building,
as
far
as
the
color
goes,
I
agree
with
some
of
the
other
committee
members
that,
especially
on
northern
north
palm
canyon,
there
we're
getting
a
lot
of
accent
colors
on
buildings
and
they
are
pretty
strong
and,
and
the
the
blue
doesn't
bother
me
at
all.
I
just
think
the
application
of
it
doesn't
really
do
much
for
me
just
to
have
two
columns
out
of
six
or
maybe
eight
seems
on.
B
N
Yeah,
I
wanted
to
add
one
more
thing
now
that
you
you
mentioned,
that
is
that
the
thought
of
potentially
doing
more
of
a
gradation
or
looking
at
the
other
columns
and
turned
not
doing
them
all
the
same
blue
color,
but
maybe
grading
them
down
as
they
go
down
the
street
so
that
it
kind
of
emphasizes
into
the
building.
I'm
not
sure
if
the
building
owner
is
amenable
to
that,
but
it
could
be
something
that
could
help
tie
the
thing
together,
but
also
kind
of
pull
people
that
way
from
a
color
perspective.
E
Yeah,
I
think
it's
a
difficult
unit
to
identify
that
there
is
in
fact
a
business
there,
but
I
do
feel
that
adding
the
blue
to
the
columns
does
does
not
just
define
exactly
that
the
business,
what
it
is
or
that
it's
there.
So
I'm
going
to
follow
with
the
staff's
recommendations.
B
B
C
With
with
some
of
the
comments
about
reviewing
the
overall
paint
scheme
and
the
additional
columns,
as
well
as
the
front
monument
or
our
sign
wall,
to
be
included
in
the
repaint
scheme,.
J
The
landscaping,
though
tom,
is
it
going
to
be
conditional
on
this
project,
or
should
it
be
city
owner?
I
think
flynn
was
indicating
that.
A
A
I
think
it
needs
to
be
part
of
an
overall
building
scheme
and
what
I
might
suggest,
mr
chair,
maybe
we
could
bifurcate
this
package.
There
seems
to
be
two
issues
here.
One
is
the
signage
which
I
think
is
fairly
straightforward,
but
the
other
is
identification
of
the
tenant
space
and
building
painting.
A
What
we
might
do
is
have
the
aac
approve
the
signage
subject
to
the
conditions
that
ms
kikuchi
has
proposed
in
the
staff
report
and
then
have
the
applicant
come
back
with
a
repaint
scheme
that
might
involve
more
than
just
the
two
columns
looking
at
an
overall
scheme
to
help
identify
the
building.
If
you
will
based
on
your
comments
and
again
that
would
be
subject
to
the
aac
wanting
to
move
in
that
direction.
B
Okay,
john
mccoy,
we
didn't
have
a
second
to
your
original
motion.
Would
you
like
to
modify
it
or
or
change
it
at
all.
C
A
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
just
to
clarify
for
the
applicant
again.
The
signage
is
approved
per
the
staff
conditions
and
we
will
have
them
look
at
the
color
scheme
for
the
building
and
they
can
bring
that
back
to
the
aac
at
a
future
date.
So
that
way
we
can
keep
them
moving
through
the
process
on
their
signage.
Thank
you.
B
A
O
Will
give
a
quick
introduction
and
then
we'll
turn
it
over
to
mark
kirkhart
and
john
mccarthy
from
design
art
arc
and
then
followed
by
the
landscape,
architect,
tom
dosey.
B
Thank
you.
It's
6
21
and
we
are
resuming
our
meeting
of
the
planning.
The
architecture
advisory
committee
of
september,
8th,
we're
now
on
item
number
five
under
new
business,
which
is
dtps
b3
llc
for
a
major
architectural
application
to
construct
a
six
story:
82
577
square
foot,
multi-family
residential
condominium
building
with
62
units
located
at
the
block,
b1
of
the
downtown
palm
springs
specific
plan
at
the
northeast
corner
of
bellardo,
road
and
museum
way.
B
Before
we
have
a
staff
report
planning
director,
can
you
explain
that
mr
dosey
is
recusing
himself?
Yes,.
A
A
C
P
Mr
chair
and
committee
members,
can
you
hear
me?
Okay?
Yes
great!
So,
let's
see
so.
As
you
said,
this
is
a
major
architectural
application
for
block
b1
of
the
downtown
palm
springs
specific
plan.
It
is
a
six-story
building
located
on
the
site
where
the
previous
virgin
hotel
was
slated
for
construction.
P
It
is
surrounded
by
streets
on
three
sides,
and
then
there
is
the
paseo
that
serves
as
a
pedestrian
walkway,
as
well
as
an
emergency
access
road.
In
the
event,
an
emergency
happens,
so
the
project
it
is
located
between
bellardo
and
market
street
or
the
paseo
and
arenas
and
museum
way
for
orientation
purposes.
North
is
to
the
right
on
the
screen
that
you
have
here
and
what
you're
looking
at
is
the
ground
floor
plan
of
the
proposed
building.
P
P
P
You
see
the
lobby
area.
There
is
an
open
lobby
area
that
rises
up
to
the
second
story
and
then,
as
we
get
to
the
third
floor,
there
are
again
more
residential
units,
a
pool
deck,
an
outside
communal
area,
which
was
which
is
oriented
towards
the
park
and
the
southerly
mountain
views
and
the
westerly
mountain
views.
P
There
are
two
access
points
that
are
two
elevator
access
areas
and
staircases
or
stairwells
on
both
the
north
and
south
sides
of
the
building
on
the
fourth
floor,
additional
units,
as
well
as
a
sun,
terrace
and
then
the
fifth
and
sixth
floors
are
again
more
residential
units.
P
P
The
roof
plan
is
what
you
see
here
on
the
screen.
They
do
propose
mechanical
equipment
inside
of
screened
areas
and
the
building
is
60
feet
in
height,
which
is
consistent
with
the
specific
plan
requirement
for
a
new
building
at
this
location,
and
that
is
measured
from
the
highest
datum
line
or
elevation
point
for
this
pad
site.
P
What
you,
what
you'll
see,
of
course
here
are
the
various
materials
that
are
being
proposed.
It's
a
some
very
obviously,
it's
a
stucco
and
blocks
in
their
block,
balconies,
storefront,
glazing,
metal
panels
and
perforated
metal
for
the
balconies
on
the
north.
Elevation,
which
is
facing
andreas
road,
is
what
this
is.
The
elevation
that
you
would
see
from
the
parking
lot
to
the
north.
P
The
south
elevation
is
what
you'd
see
from
the
kimton
building
is
where
you
would
see
the
outdoor
pool
deck,
and
then
there
are
some
photovoltaic
panels
above
the
terrace
deck.
On
the
fourth
floor,
this
is
the
east
elevation,
which
would
face
the
two-story
building
in
palm
canyon.
P
P
The
afghan
has
provided
some
perspective
views
which
you
see
here.
This
is
a
view
of
the
building
from
the
south
west
vantage
point
looking
to
the
north
east,
so
towards
the
pool
deck
and
the
primary
entry
pedestrian
entry
to
from
the
street
to
the
to
the
building
and
an
overall
view
of
the
project
is
what
you
see
here:
the
pool
deck
area
at
the
interior,
courtyard
void
area.
P
P
P
And
as
far
as
the
landscape
plan,
you
know
this
is
built
on
an
existing
subterranean
garage.
P
So
what
they've
done
is
incorporated
raised
planter
areas
you
can
see
those
on
the
basically
most
of
most
sides
are
all
sides
of
the
building,
as
well
as
on
the
interior,
courtyard
areas
without
or
the
interior
courier,
where
they
have
a
couple
of
specimen
trees
and
some,
as
I
said,
some
rice
planters.
P
P
So
that
that
is
kind
of
the
overall
design
of
the
project
in
terms
of
the
mass
and
scale
the
project
is
consistent
with
the
downtown
palm
springs,
specific
plan
staff
evaluated
the
setbacks,
the
maximum
height,
this
the
building
step
back
requirements
and
the
max
square
footage
permitted
by
the
downtown
sponsoring
a
specific
plan
and
the
project
does
conform
to
all
those
requirements.
P
It
is
important
to
note
that,
as
I
said,
this
was
the
previous
location
of
the
virgin
hotel
site.
That
project
was
113
000
square
feet.
This
is
a
reduction
down
to
82
000
square
feet,
so
the
overall
scope
of
the
project
is
reduced
or
the
overall
scope
of
what
was
anticipated
on
this
block
is
now
reduced.
P
P
The
the
one
item
that
staff
noted
as
an
issue
in
your
your
memorandum
is
that
the
proposed
building
doesn't
incorporate
any
ground
floor,
retail,
which
does
impact
the
user
experience
of
the
building,
as
well
as
how
you
know
pedestrians
when
they
interact
or
walk
around
the
building
experience
the
building.
P
So
we
did
note
that
as
a
potential
issue
that
the
aac
might
want
to
take
a
consideration
of
when
looking
at
this
project,
we
did
receive
four
public
comment.
Letters
and
those
were
provided
to
you,
and
so
you
have
a
copy
of
those
and
I'll
just
touch
on
a
couple
of
the
items
that
were
brought
up
in
those
some
of
those
comments
almost
parking,
and
there
was
a
question
about
whether
this
project
had
adequate
parking
and
that's
something,
of
course,
that
the
planning,
commission
and
city
council
would
ultimately
review.
P
But
for
the
for
the
benefit
of
the
aac.
We
just
note
that
this
project
is
part
of
a
project
finance
agreement
that
established
parking
being
met
under
that
agreement
for
the
for
the
proposed
project
as
a
part
of
the
overall
downtown
development
in
terms
of
its
design.
You
know:
you've
had
you've
heard
comments
today
during
public
comment
about
concerns
of
the
design
relative
to
unique
palm
springs
architecture
and
then,
lastly,
there's
some
comments
about
shade.
P
That's
something
that
we
feel
that
there
was
there's
adequate,
shade
provided
as
part
of
the
project,
but
the
aac
may
want
to
review
that.
So
with
that,
I
will
conclude
my
presentation
and
I'm
available
for
questions.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
david.
Does
the
committee
have
any
questions
of.
J
P
So
let
me
get
back
to
the
floor
plan.
P
Okay,
so
there's
an
existing
access,
there's
two
access
points
that
are
available
right
here,
where
you
see
the
stairwell
there's
an
access
point
there
and
there's
another
access
point
here
where
this
stairwell
is
so
this
would.
This
is
currently
there
now
and
those
would
be
the
access
points
to
the
building
from
the
underground
parking
area,
including
an
elevator.
P
D
B
C
P
C
And
then,
just
as
I
looked
at
the
the
plan
of
the
garage,
it
looked
as
though
only
one
so
open
question
there
number
two:
okay,
I
assume
with
that
60
foot
height
limit
that
there
are
further
encroachments
of
it
that
are
allowed
and
spelled
out
in
terms
of
mechanical.
P
Correct
yeah,
there
are
some
encroachments
above
that
for
the
mechanical
screening,
and
that
is,
I
think,
the
they
range
from
four
to
six
feet
above
the
roofline.
C
Okay,
right
staff
report
indicated
that
the
height
of
this
structure
is
lower
than
the
hotel
adjacent.
How,
by
how
much
do
you
have
any
sense
of
that.
P
C
And
you
you
also,
you
touched
on
the
on
the
parking
issue
and
I
I
had
trouble
reading
the
is
it
compliant
how
many
cars
per
units
total?
What
is
that
ratio.
P
The
the
parking
is
is
compliant
as
as
it
relates
to
the
project,
finance
agreement
so
as
part
of
the
overall
downtown
development
project
and
the
specific
plan
approval.
P
A
O
P
J
P
But
generally
the
rest
of
the
prod
the
ground
floor
for
the
hotel
was
really
the
communal
meeting
spaces
and
some
banquet
rooms,
kitchen
areas.
So
there's
a
mixture
of
different
uses
that
that
might
activate
a
little
bit
more
that
ground
floor
space
than
what
we
have.
J
E
Question
regarding
shading,
yes,
the
the
shading
question,
the
landscape
and
layout
of
the
sidewalks
was
determined
with
the
downstone
specific
plan
when
it
went
through
its
whole
design
process.
Has
there
been
any
changes
with
this
development
to
what
was
approved
previously
any
changes
in
the
trees
or
tree
locations.
P
P
You
can
see
in
the
plan
view
here,
there's
some
additional
landscape
and
there's
an
overhang
that
extends
a
bit
more
than
previously
was
proposed
with
the
previous
virgin
hotel.
But
as
far
as
landscaping
is
consistent
with
the
landscape
materials
that
were
previously
for
for
the
project.
E
B
P
I
don't
believe
it
is.
I
think
this
is
really
only
an
emergency
access
road
but
I'll.
Let
the
app
can
clarify
that
because
I
believe
there
are
loading
areas
directly
adjacent
to
this
building
along
the
adjacent,
the
other
adjacent
streets,
okay,.
B
B
Okay,
now
it's
time
for
the
applicant,
you
have
10
minutes
to
present
and
two
minutes
of
rebuttal
if
desired
after
any
public
comments.
So
normally
we
would
have
the
applicant
give
their
report.
Then
we
would
go
to
public
comments,
though
we've
already
had
a
public
comment
earlier
and
then
after
public
comments.
If
the
applicant
would
like
to
rebut
anything,
they
can
so
please
give
us
your
name
and
let's
hear
your
presentation,
please.
O
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair,
michael
braun
palm
springs,
north
palm
canyon,
from
grip
development.
Great
development
is
proud
to
bring
forward
the
final
component
of
our
downtown
project.
The
community
and
grid
envisioned
in
2011
a
first-class
open-air
lifestyle
center
with
office,
retail
restaurants,
hotel
and
residential
uses.
O
Today,
our
architect,
architects,
design,
art
and
tom
dosey
from
gkd
are
presenting
the
final
piece.
A
60-foot
high
high-end,
a
60-unit
high-end
community
project
focused
on
the
baby
boomer
generation
looking
to
relocate
full-time
to
palm
springs.
Design
act
has
been
very
successful.
Creating
exceptional
residential
communities
in
palm
springs
since
2001..
O
For
this
project
they
were
directed
to
create
an
indoor
outdoor
building
that
promotes
the
lifestyle
of
the
desert,
with
a
focus
on
exceptional
design,
landscaping
and
outdoor
living.
I'm
proud
to
introduce
mark
burkhart,
dion,
mccarthy
and
tom
dosey,
and
I'm
available
later
on
for
questions.
You
have
that
also
happy
to
answer
regarding
parking
and
other
questions
that
were
raised.
I
Mark
kirkhardt,
I'm
principal
of
design,
arc
architects
and
I'm
going
to
be
handling
most
of
the
presentation
here,
along
with
tom
dosey.
But
I'd
like
to
thank
david
for
the
for
the
staff
report
and
see
if
you
could
bring
up,
please
bring
up
the
ground.
The
ground
level
plan
that
I
could
use
to
talk
through.
I
So,
as
michael
had
mentioned,
we
were
we
were
charged
with
coming
up
with
a
residential
building.
That
would
be
a
good
fit
to
finish
out
the
downtown
project
and
would
actually
be
could
be
considered
kind
of
a
cousin
to
the
rowan
hotel,
which
we
were
also
the
design
architects
on,
and
so
our
approach
here
was
a
really
an
inside
out
approach
to
the
the
design
of
the
units,
and
you
can
see
we've.
That's
that's
ended
up
with
getting
all
the
units,
basically
being
single
loaded.
I
I
On
the
street
level.
We
understand
that
the
previous
earlier
master
plan,
envisioned
some
retail
in
these
locations
and
michael,
has
made
it
very
clear.
I
think-
and
he
can
answer
more
questions
from
you-
that
you
know
this
bricks
and
mortar
retail
just
is
really
not
happening.
I
We
have
other
clients
that
have
named
it
now,
the
vacant
retail
ordinance
that
you
require
projects
like
this
to
have
retail
space
on
the
ground
floor
and
it
ends
up
being
never
occupied.
So
this.
This
is
an
approach
to
really
bring
more
life
to
this
site
and,
as
michael
said,
to
have
permanent
residence
downtown
as
opposed
to
transient
ones,
which
we
think
is
a
be
a
good
addition
and
really
help
create
a
sense
of
community.
I
One
of
the
approaches
that
we
found
to
be
most
challenging
here
was
to
not
have
the
residential
units
that
are
on
the
ground
level,
have
their
living
rooms
right
on
the
sidewalk,
which
would
not
be
a
very
desirable
living
situation.
So
the
real
key
to
this,
as
you
can
see
from
this
plan,
is
the
ground
level
units
actually
address
the
internalized
courtyard,
with
the
exception
of
one
unit
on
the
northeast
corner,
the
rest
of
them
all
turn
their
turn
to
the
inside
and
then
on
the
next
floor.
I
Yeah,
so
here
now
we
get
units
that
are
facing
to
facing
to
the
to
the
perimeter
along
the
west
and
then
the
mark,
the
units
that
back
up
to
market
street
actually
look
out
into
that
courtyard
and
the
higher
you
get
in
this
building
those
units
along
that
market
street
block.
There
will
actually
be
able
to
get
views
of
the
mountain
over
the
top
of
the
units
in
front.
I
So
you
can
see
here
how
this
is
all
the
units
are
single
loaded,
and
this
really
begins
to
show
how
the
building
erodes
on
the
corner
and
steps
back
to
really
respect
that
corner
and
a
nice
nice
pedestrian
experience
coming
down
museum
way,
walking
west
on
museum
way
and
getting
nice
vistas
to
the
new
park.
That's
going
to
be
straight
across
bellardo
from
this
project,
so
you
can
see.
We've
really
eroded
the
corner
in
order
to
have
that
happen.
I
If
you
go
up,
maybe
one
more
level
please,
and
so
here's
where
all
the
main
activity
the
amenity
ends
up
being
created
on
the
corner.
That's
only
a
three-story
high
space,
a
three-story
high
deck,
that's
open,
so
we
really
feel
that
that's
giving
a
really
a
nice
a
nice
view
into
this
project
for
the
community-
and
I
would
say
detroit
are
trying
to
wrap
up,
because
I
know
we
don't
have
too
much
time
I
want
to
be
respectful
of
that.
Could
you
go
to
the
the
perspective
views?
Please.
I
Building
like
this
is
really
much
better
perceived
in
the
three
in
three
dimensions.
Maybe
back
one,
please
david
this
one,
I
think,
really
tells
the
story.
This
is
a
slight
elevated
view
from
from
in
front
of
the
rowan
hotel,
as
you
can
see
on
the
right
here,
this
really
shows
how
the
building
steps
back
and
actually
gives
glimpses
back
into
that
central
courtyard,
from
the
even
even
from
the
pedestrian
scale
from
over
in
the
park.
You'll
be
able
to
see
and
understand
that
there's
a
central
courtyard
inside
of
the
building.
I
I
I
I
So
I'm
going
to
I'm
going
to
leave
the
rest.
That's
that
time.
I
guess
tom
can't
actually
present
his
plan,
but
you
know
we
he's
very
sensitive.
Obviously
one
of
the
questions
that
came
up
that
I
can't
answer
about
the
shading
and
the
the
the
tree
planting
around
the
property
that
is
all
actually
installed.
I
I'm
sure
you
all
know
that
so
that
we
haven't
are
not
proposing
to
change
any
of
that,
so
those
trees
along
bellardo
that
were
part
of
the
original
design
that
are
intended
to
get
large
enough
to
provide
shade
on
the
sidewalk
are
all
installed
they're
there
we're
not
changing
them.
So
that
is
all
that's
like
I
said,
that's
staying
the
same,
and
tom
has
done
a
really
great
job
of
developing
as
much,
even
though
we're
on
top
of
a
podium
getting
as
much
kind
of
landscape
and
very
passive
common
area
in
here.
I
So
there's
there's
no
real
activity
zones.
There's
we
have
a
little
outdoor
fire
pit
with
a
shade
structure
over
it
and
done
a
nice
job
of
landscaping.
So
the
units
that
are
on
the
ground
floor
actually
have
patios.
You
can
see
that
open
out
into
that
courtyard
in
the
middle
other
than
that
everything
is
facing
facing
out
and
single
loaded,
a
question
about
the
elevators.
I
The
other
elevator
is
intended
as
a
move-in
move
out
service
elevator,
and
so
that,
at
this
point,
we're
not
proposing
for
that
to
go
down
into
the
garage
we're
we're
gonna
propose
to
do
a
traction
elevator
there,
so
that
we
don't
have
to
have
a
pit
underneath
of
it.
There's
still
a
little
bit
of
detail
to
be
worked
out
in
that.
As
far
as
the
parking
there
are
literally
hundreds
of
parking
spaces
under
this
building
extends
further
beyond
our
buildings.
I
B
I
So
trash
currently
is
picked
up
along
andreas
and
from
my
understanding,
those
bollards
do
not
get
removed
for
any
deliveries
on
market,
but
they
do
trucks,
do
stop
at
the
end
of
market
and
deliver
across,
and
maybe
michael
can
elaborate
on
that.
I
think
our
idea
was.
I
believe
that
that
trash
pickup
location
was
left
on
this
drawing
inherently
because
the
the
plan
is
to
have
the
trash.
Can
the
the
dumpsters
be
moved
out
of
the
building
onto
andreas
and
picked
up
picked
up
directly
there?
Okay,
thank
you.
B
So
do
we
go
to
committee
questions
of
staff
planning,
director
or
rebuttals
from
the
applicant?
What's
our
next
move,
mr.
A
Chair
our
next
move
would
be
to
have
questions
for
the
applicant
from
the
aac
committee
members.
Okay,
confirm
in
terms
of
public
comment
that
chris
menrat
was
the
only
speaker
who
signed
up
for
public
comment
under
this
item.
Mr
newell
did
mention
that
we
did
receive
additional
letters
which
were
distributed
earlier,
and
he
also
noted
the
comments
for
those
letters.
So
with
that
questions
of
the
applicant.
B
Okay,
thank
you
committee
members,
questions
for
the
applicant
either
the
developer
or
the
architect.
J
J
F
Well,
hi,
dion,
mccarthy.
I
might
just
say
that,
as
mark
has
already
mentioned,
the
the
the
kind
of
design
proceeded
from
the
interior
outside
inside
out,
we
tried
to
create
a
a
building
which
was
sensitive
to
its
actual
location,
which
is
a
very
interesting
location.
F
You
know,
if
you
will,
tucked
between
an
interior
street
and
the
back
of
house
of
retail
and
then
a
beautiful
public
park,
and
as
mark
has
already
mentioned,
the
view
of
the
of
the
mountain,
which
is
our
iconic
sort
of
sense
of
what
palm
springs
is
to
the
southwest
one
of
our
first
acts
when
we
designed
the
rowan
was
to
produce
that
window,
which
looked
at
the
mountain
actually
in
earlier
versions
of
that
scheme.
F
F
So
I
think
there
is
a
a
an
attempt
to
try
to
kind
of
use
the
grammar
of
the
hotel,
but
not
its
institutional
scale,
to
use
the
grammar
of
sun
screen
to
highlight
various
things
like
the
windows
and
doors
in
a
kind
of
order,
but
not
necessarily
draw
too
much
attention
to
them
so
and,
and
and
the
long
and
the
short
of
it
really
is
the
kind
of
purposeful
removal
of
the
corner,
so
that
that
the
building
itself
will
appear
as
a
very
transparent
object,
not
as
a
mass
that
occupies
a
block
with
regard
to
the
other
kind
of
architectural
features.
F
You
know,
I
I
don't.
I
honestly
don't
think
I
know
how
to
address
that
other
than
to
say
that
you
know,
with
regard
to
the
usual
palette
of
things
that
we
use
in
our
multi-family
work.
This
is
very
near
the
highest
end
of
it
that
we
were
given
instructions
by
grit
to
really
kind
of
produce
a
highly
imaginable
building,
and
we
tried
to
do
that.
B
B
H
Dan,
I'm
mark
on
the
on
the
west
side
on
the
market
street
side,
where
the
entrances
to
the
units
are
on
those
five
six
levels.
Was
there
any
other
thought
given
to
how
that
could
be
done
versus
what
we
were
presented
with.
I
B
I
So
what
we
were
trying
to
get
at
here
is
it
was
a
kind
of
a
very
you
know.
This
is
a
single
loaded
corridor
and
we
really
wanted
to
animate
it
and
have
a
lot
of
variety
of
texture.
I'm
not
sure
if
you
can
maybe
zoom
in
on
that
a
little
bit
you'll
see
that
we
have
a
combination
of
some
glass,
some
frosted
glass
panels,
some
some
some
kind
of
vertical
and
horizontal
louver
panels.
I
We
have
some
painted
metal
panels
that
actually
have
that
are
bent
in
the
end
up
in
the
plan
view
so
that
when
you're,
when
you,
when
you
look
at
them
from
an
from
an
angle,
you'd
see
one
color
when
you're
looking
from
one
side
and
another
color
from
the
other.
So
it
was
really
just
to
try
to
really
kind
of
animate
that
and
become
become
a
nice
texture
not
to
make
too
much
out
of
it.
I
But
so,
even
when
viewed
from
a
distance,
you'd
get
a
you
know.
Early
in
the
morning,
you
get
a
lot
of
shadow
like
you're.
Seeing
here
yeah
I
mean
there's
a
there's,
a
million
ways
to
skin
that
cat.
I
We
thought
that
we
were
doing
a
good
job
of
getting
a
lot
of
enough
animation
and
variety
to
make
it
interesting
while
still
having
it
be
open
air,
and
that
was
very
that
we
feel
that
felt
that
that
was
very
important
and,
by
the
way
that
same
this
same
pattern
repeats
inside
the
courtyard
on
the
east
facing
side
of
those
the
units
that
are
then
facing
the
mountains.
The
access.
So
this,
this
kind
of
textured
approach
of
layering
also
appears
inside
the
courtyard
of
the.
I
There's
there's
a
there's:
a
there's:
a
market
street
perspective
kind
of
an
oblique.
F
Just
to
get
at
the
idea
of
those
vertical
sunglasses
right
there,
which
are
one
color,
as
looked
at
from
one
direction
and
another
color
on
their
backsides.
As
looked
at
from
the
other
street,.
I
Yeah,
so
the
the
gold,
the
gold
blades,
are
perpendicular
to
the
to
the
building.
They're,
actually
they're,
actually
coming
out
towards
you,
so
when
they'd
be
painted
once
one
color
on
one
side
and
another
color
on
the
other
side.
So
once
again,
it's
just.
I
think
this
kind
of
gives
you
a
better
idea
of
the
kind
of
how
the
various
textures
kind
of
stack
up-
and
you
know
we
think
it'd
be
very
playful.
H
And
this
the
thing
that
the
part
that
looks
like
a
screen
next
to
those
panels
is
that
what
kind
of
material
is
that
I
mean.
I
These
these,
like
horizontal
and
the
little
louvered
those
those
would
be
like
a
little
a
thin
louver
metal,
probably
aluminum,
so
that
it
doesn't.
You
know
it's
not
going
to
be
wood,
we're
not
using
any
wood
on
this
building
in
terms
of
things
that
could
go
south
so
and
you
can
see,
there's
there's
there's
pieces
of
railing
in
there.
I
That'll
have
the
perforated
metal,
so
you've
got
a
combination
of
you
know:
horizontal
louvers,
translucent,
glass
panels,
metal
panels
that
are
bent
three-dimensionally
and
finished
with
the
kynar
kind
of
finish,
and
then
the
the
the
perforated
metal
on
the
handrail.
So
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
textures
going
on
in
there.
We
think!
That's
what
that's
that's,
where
the
the
strength
of
this.
F
N
Members
this-
I
had
a
question
in
terms
of
in
this.
Actually,
if
you
zoom
out
a
little
bit
this,
this
actually
kind
of
shows
it
well
this
the
one.
N
This
elevation
at
ground
level
feels
a
little
bit
sparse
to
me
as
you
as
you'd,
walk
by
that
it's
just
kind
of
a
four
foot
block
wall
with
windows
behind.
N
So
I'm
curious
to
know
like
if
there
was
a
thought
about
how
to
make
that
a
little
bit
more
pedestrian
friendly
number
one
and
number
two
looking
at
the
lounge
and
all
that
stuff-
and
I
understand
the
retail
you
know
not
wanting
to
add
brick
and
mortar
retail
space
in
there,
but
but
potentially
having
a
lounge,
slash
coffee,
slash
something
for
the
tenants
that
could
also
be
open
to
the
public.
N
O
Yeah,
so
this
is
michael
brown.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
The
block
wall
around
along
market
street
is
a
placeholder.
O
We
are
in
contact
with
russell
and
ann
schaeffer
from
the
art
commission,
and
we
are
already
talking
to
an
artist
that
will
have
on
that
blog,
some
kind
of
an
art
piece
or
mural
to
attract
people
when
they
walk
down
marcus
street
that
this
will
be
engaging
and
hopefully
an
instagram
moment
for
people
to
take
pictures
with
regard
to
the
coffee
shop.
Unfortunately,
as
you
know,
we
were
able
to
attract
the
reserve
starbucks
store
on
the
corner
of
block
building
block
c
and
they
have
an
exclusive
for
the
center.
O
Otherwise
they
would
have
not
invested
the
kind
of
money
they
did
to
open
up
that
starbucks
reserve
store,
so
I'm
prohibited
to
open
up
a
second
coffee
shop
in
those
three
blocks.
It's
a
shame,
but
that's
what
has
happened
as
to
retail?
As
you
know,
brick
and
mortar
is
unfortunately
shrinking.
It
needs
to
be
more
special,
but
location
is
more
important
than
ever
and
we
have
certain
demands
from
attractive
mom-and-pop
shops
or
national
retailers,
but
without
any
exception
they
all
want
to
be
on
palm
canyon.
E
F
So
I
I
think
that
there's
a
willingness
to
remove
all
or
a
portion
of
that,
but
also
I
wanted
to
mention
that
the
exercise
room
which
sits
right
behind
it
on
that
active
corner,
has
doors
that
are
supposed
to
be
able
to
slide
open
so
that
you
can
have
a
kind
of
open-air
experience,
and
it's
our
hope
that
that
instead
of
a
coffee
shop
that
it's
the
interaction
of
I
don't
know
people
the
fitness
center.
That
might
help.
F
I
I'd
also
like
to
add,
if
we
can,
if
we
could
look
at
tom,
if
we
can
excuse
me
if
we
could
look
at
the
landscape
plan,
this
is
maybe
an
issue
with
our
rendering
there's,
actually
a
substantial
amount
of
landscape
going
in
the
gap
between
the
wall,
as
you
can
see
here.
So
that
is
just
not
illustrated
very
well
in
our
rendering.
So
there
is,
there
is
a
landscape.
That's
going
to
happen
in
that
zone.
F
That's
that's
right
and
then,
as
we
said,
we
we
are
looking
at
options
for
maybe
making
that
wall
more
of
a
breeze
block
or
having
it
dematerialized
as
it
stretches
down
yeah.
I'm.
B
I
So
those
are
those
are
little
slit,
high
slit
windows
and
they're
they're
behind
that
wall,
so
on
the
lowest
level
in
the
bathrooms,
and
the
kitchens
would
have
a
would
have
a
high
window
to
let
allow
light
into
the
back
of
those
units.
That's
what
you
see
between
the
floor
and
the
wall
and
then
the
the
units
that
are
on
the
second
floor
actually
have
gla
mostly
glazing
this.
I
This
building,
because
of
its
height
and
the
construction
type,
is
going
to
be
type
one
for
the
ground
floor
and
the
second
floor,
and
so
we
will
be
able
to
have
very
large
openings,
and
so
we're
thinking
that
that
is
those
units
are
going
to
be
people
that,
like
to
be
close
to
the
sidewalk
and
they're
going
to
have
a
you
know,
it'll
be
those
some
of
those
windows
would
will
be
operable
with
glass
balconies,
not
not
protruding
balconies,
but
like
a
juliet
type
balcony.
I
So
you
could
open
your
sliding
door
and
have
a
piece
of
glass
there.
So
that's
what's
happening
on
the
second
floor
and
then
those
are
little
slit
windows
they're,
basically
the
height
that
you're
seeing
them
in
that
right
there,
the
rest
of
it
is
being
occluded
by
the
the
wall
and
around
that.
That's
the
same
thing
going
then
around
to
the
north.
The
same
thing
is
happening.
Does
that
answer
your
question.
B
H
I
X,
yes,
we're
we're
proposing
photovoltaics
on
the
on
the
roof.
Doesn't
they
would
be
the
semi,
the
semi-transparent
ones?
You
know
they
look
really
nice
from
underneath
you've
probably
seen
those
you
can
get
them
in
various
colors
and
then
they
would
actually
come
and
fold
down
that
that
last
bit
would
fold
down
and
be
facing
deuce
out
there.
So
yeah
we're
using
the
the
the
photovoltaics
as
a
as
a
part
of
the
shade
for
that
for
that
over.
For
that
overlook,
which
you
can
see
here.
F
We
we
have
done
this
on
projects
that
we've
done
in
san
diego
and
actually
in
marina
del
rey.
Here,
in
los
angeles,
if
you
go
on
our
website,
you
can
see
two
those
two
examples
in
the
case
of
the
san
diego
project,
which
was
finished
last
year
at
f
and
11th
street
those
photovoltaics
wrapped
the
entire
sort
of
face
of
the
building
vertically,
as
well
as
horizontal,
because
we
had
a
southern
exposure
to
work
with.
In
that
particular
case,.
I
And,
of
course,
with
all
the
cal
green,
the
calgary
things
that
we
have
to
deal
with
now
in
terms
of
code
they'll,
be
we
have
the
opportunity
for
even
more
photovoltaics
on
the
flat
roof
areas,
and
since
this
will
be
ultimately
an
ownership
project,
one
of
the
good
things
about
that
is.
We
can
set
it
up
so
that
those
photovoltaics
will
benefit
individual
units
as
opposed
to
when
you're
doing
it
on
an
apartment,
project,
you're
kind
of
you're.
I
Only
you
only
really
generally
want
to
provide
the
photovoltaics
for
the
house,
meter,
type
of
demands,
but
so
we'll
have
those
opportunities
as
well
for
photovoltaics
for
the
ownership.
H
F
I
I
F
E
I
So
you
can
see
how
much
of
that
land
the
public
land
that
we're
actually
giving
way
to
the
public
in
front
in
front
of
our
entrance
and
our
the
glass
line
is
well
behind
those
columns.
So
these
columns
are
actually
supporting
the
pool
level,
but
you
could
you
could
walk?
Pedestrians
could
interact
with
those
and
actually
go
behind
them.
F
I
The
main
thing
that
that
drove
the
first
and
that's
a
double
level
high,
that's
two
two
levels
high,
because
the
pool
is
actually
up
on
the
third
level
as
we
mentioned.
So
that's
a
has
a
very
nice
sense
of
volume
and
I
think
you'll
get
really
great
views
of
the
fantastic
park.
That's
that's
going
to
be
there
very
early
on
as
you
before
you
even
get
to
bellardo,
which
would
be
very,
which
I
think
will
be
great.
There
will
be
a
lot
of.
I
There
you
go,
you
can
see
that
so
that
the
lobby
itself
is
glazed
on
both
sides,
as
dionne
has
said.
So
when
you're,
when
the
pedestrian
is
turning
this
corner
and
looking
through
the
lobby
you'll
be
able
to
see
right
into
that,
there's
a
you
can
see,
there's
kind
of
a
large
tree
right
there
right
opposite
those
double
those
double
doors.
So
the
whole
idea
is
that
you
get
a
glimpse
of
that
kind
of.
You
know
bit
of
an
oasis
in
the
middle
of
the
in
the
middle
of
the
building.
I
So
I
we
think
that
that's
going
to
be
it'll,
be
a
very
a
very
nice
view,
for
you
know,
for
the
pedestrian
walking
by
is
really
is
really
letting
the
building
itself
spill
right
out
into
the
public.
B
B
B
E
I'll
speak
to
the
landscape,
I
I
think
there
you
know,
there's
very
limited
quantities
of
landscape,
but
I
think
the
plant
selections
are
great.
I
think
you
know
it
is
above
a
parking
garage.
So
in
terms
of
soil
surface
for
the
roots,
the
trees
are
appropriate
and
I
think
that
what
has
been
specified
will
work.
E
I
had
a
concern
about
the
east
elevation,
but
they
they
addressed
that
with
the
public
art
and
that
that
portion
is
still
in
development,
so
yeah,
I
think,
in
terms
of
landscape.
It
looks
good.
I
like
the
paper
choices
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
that
the
final
development
of
it.
H
I'll
go
okay,
I'll
jump
in
on
the
south
elevation,
the
the
long
four
foot
long
block
wall.
H
C
Let's
see
as
as
I
kind
of
went
through
the
drawings
I
just
there,
I
I
can
appreciate
the
challenge
and
the
struggle
with
respect
to
density
the
particulars
in
terms
of
of
the
program
that
you
have
to
succeed
with
the
opportunities
for
views,
etc.
There
are
some
key
elements
to
the
building
massing
that
I
would
have
some
concerns
over,
and
although
these
are
challenges,
I'm
not
sure
that
they
are
fully
fully
addressed.
C
One
of
them
is
I
the
access
to
the
units
by
the
owners
and
and
the
way
the
circulation
works
there.
I
realized
that
it
was
an
alternative
to
a
double
loaded
corridor,
but
I
I
am
troubled
by
the
process
of
getting
into
the
units
and
how
the
circulation
hangs
off
of
the
perimeter
walls
of
the
courtyard.
C
C
I
I
would
worry
that
it
would
really
connote
kind
of
a
higher
end
market
point
in
terms
of
of
how
it
presents.
C
As
I
look
at
the
pool
area,
I
think
it
just
you
know:
you've
got
it.
Sort
of
stacks.
You've
got
some
a
couple
key
outdoor
spaces.
I
see
the
lounge
chairs
that
are
sort
of
beneath
a
podium
level.
Above
it
it's
it's,
it
might
be
a
little
odd
and
I
think
one
of
the
challenges
of
it.
Yes,
yes,
the
building
mass
has
broken
up,
but
we
kind
of
end
up
with
a
lot
of.
C
They
are
non-related
outdoor
spaces
that
each
maybe
kind
of
are
addressing
the
particulars
around
them,
but
they
don't
hang
together
as
a
whole,
and
I
think
I
would
take
another
step
in
this
direction
by
saying
the
building
does
not
necessarily
hang
together
as
as
a
whole
in
terms
of
the
massing
and
what
it's
doing
so,
those
those
are
just
some
things
that
I
think
I
would
give
second
consideration
to
in
terms
of
this
being
the
final
word
in
terms
of
design
direction.
C
N
Okay,
so
one
functional
thing,
I'm
thinking
is,
if
I'm,
if
I'm
an
owner
of
the
south
east,
I'm
sorry
the
northeast
unit,
parking
in
the
structure
and
walking
all
that
way
from
one
elevator
from
the
far
end
of
the
building
is
not
going
to
be
a
pleasant
experience.
I
mean
it's
going
to
be
it's
a
long
walk,
so
I'm
I'm
think
I'm
wondering
if
you
should
reconsider
the
idea
of
having
a
second
elevator
for
the
residents,
because
it
just
feels
like
it's
going
to
be
a
very.
A
N
Way
to
run
number
one,
I'm
overall
pretty
much
a
fan
of
the
massing.
I
think
the
in
in
general.
I
think
it
really
works.
Well,
I
like
the
opening
of
the
corner.
I
do
still
have
the
concern
about
the
pedestrian
experience
both
along
the
the
side
street,
which
I
think
you
guys
are
going
to
address
on
what
is
it
museum
way
as
well
as
I'm
looking
at
it?
N
Bellardo
as
well
has
a
very
long
kind
of
block
wall,
and
I
know
there's
planting
there,
but
I
just
think
there
there
could
be
a
little
bit
more
fun
and
whimsy
there
for
people
that
are
walking
along
that
long
stretch
with
with
kind
of
no
covering.
J
Yeah,
I
guess
I
have
a
couple
more
questions
too.
I
hope
it's
not
too
late.
Are
there
or
did
we
touch
on
anything
about
hoa
regulations
in
terms
of
balconies
outdoor
furniture
window
treatments,
barbecues.
J
O
This
is
michael
braun.
There
will
be
hoa
regulations
with
regard
to
what
people
are
allowed
to
have
on
the
balconies.
It's
very
important
to
us
how
the
visual,
how
the
building
speaks
to
the
to
the
public,
especially
in
front
of
the
public
park.
So
we
will
have
those
restrictions
in
place:
yeah,
no
barbecues.
As
one
example,
there
will
be
no
barbecues
allowed
on
the
patios
or
bikes
or
anything
like
this.
J
O
We
have
honestly,
we
haven't
really
thought
about
this
yet
because
we
have
not
created
the
hoa
or
the
ccnrs,
but
we're
very
concerned
about
what
you
mentioned.
So
it's
a
good
question
again
because
we
want
to
maintain
the
integrity
of
the
building,
so
there
will
be
stringent
regulations
in
order
to
maintain
that.
J
Yep,
thank
you.
I
guess
my
comments
are
with
the
like
some
of
the
materials
I
feel
like.
We
have
a
lot
of
questions
here
if
this
feels
like
maybe
an
earlier
design
development
set,
which
probably
makes
sense
now
it's
the
time
to
submit
that,
but
it
does
say
operable
vinyl
windows,
which
I
had
highlighted
and
put
a
question
mark
on.
So
I
understand,
if
you're
not
doing
that,
this
still
looks
very
busy
to
me.
There's
a
lot
of
materials
on
them.
J
Feels
like
there's
a
lot
trying
to
be
achieved
here
when
maybe
a
simpler
method
could
help
give
people
the
sense
that
this
was
a
simpler,
more
grounded,
earthy
like
building
this,
this
general
aesthetic,
as
I
as
I
look
at
the
design
arc
website,
seems
like
there's
quite
a
few
projects
that
have
some
very
many
similarities
to
this
project.
P
J
For
instance,
there
was
the
east
facade
east
elevation,
I'm
just
going
to
get
over
there,
page
8
202,
quite
a
few
things
going
on
there,
where
you,
you
guys,
seem
to
be
excited
about
the
multiple
colors
on
those
blade
walls
or
fins
as
well
as
then
there's
a
perforated
metal
design
there,
and
then
you
mentioned
the
kind
of
finish
on
that
material
rather
than
a
core
10,
and
evidently
you've
had
some
bad
experience
with
that.
J
Maybe
that
was
just
the
location
or
placement
of
that
material
in
the
past.
But
anyway,
I
wondered
if
you
might
explore
something
like
that
or
or
a
similar
material.
Maybe
it's
a
copper
brass
bronze,
something
like
that
in
lieu
of
some
of
these
other
finishes
that
don't
seem
very
earthy
or
related
to
the
desert.
J
For
instance,
some
of
these
perforated
panel
ideas,
some
of
these
other
yellowish
gold
colors-
could
make
sense,
but
I'm
not
quite
sure
I
get
them
and
how
they
relate
to
maybe
the
desert
architecture
with
so
much
white
and
silver
or
the
clear
anodized
aluminum
frames.
It
feels
like
quite
a
few
of
these
other
projects.
There's
this
noho
project,
I'm
I'm
looking
at
and
I
see
some
similarities
there
there's
a
few
others
on
the
website.
J
The
the
moving
on
to
circulation,
I'm
a
little
worried
about
that.
Also
on
some
of
these
upper
floors,
like
the
level
six
floor
plan,
for
example,
which
I
think
is
very
similar
to
the
level
five
floor
plan
if
a
guest
or
an
occupant
or
an
owner
is
outside
walking
to
their
unit.
J
J
I
think
it's
got
the
potential
to
be
dark
and
hard
and
almost
slightly
dismal,
where
I
can
see
homeowners
wanting
to
liven
that
up
or
soften
that
up
and
then
the
potential
for
a
lot
of
creep
and
different
types
of
plants
or
potted
things
going
on
and
anyway,
just
kind
of
worry
about
what
that
might
turn
into,
especially
from
the
ground.
Looking
up
in
some
of
these
areas,.
J
D
D
I
think
it's
it's
a
challenge
to
take
a
building
of
this
size
and
height
and
bring
it
down
to
some
human
scale,
and
I
think
that's
what
the
effort
is
with
all
the
variation
of
massing
materials,
that
sort
of
thing-
and
I
think
it
really.
D
I
I
think
also
having
a
six
story
courtyard
is
has
got
some
is
problematic
and
I
don't,
I
think,
the
sound
the
visual
experience
as
a
resident
of
what
you
see,
even
if
you
incorporate
some
of
the
design
elements
that
you
talked
about
with
the
kinar
panels
or
the
louvers
or
glass.
I
still
just
think
it's
it's
going
to
be
a
pretty
dismal
experience.
D
I
also
think
that
the
east
elevation,
although
it
looks
you
talk
about
it
being
playful
and
there's
a
lot
going
on,
I'm
almost
think
it's
gonna
look
like
a
tenement,
even
though
it
has
all
these
elements
just
because
you've
got
six
stories
of
balcony
way,
opening
out
onto
the
street.
D
So
I
I
think
you
know
this
is
a
wonderful
opportunity
for
something
really
unique
and
really
palm
springs
and
I
think
it's
kind
of
generic.
So
that's
what
I
have
to
say.
B
Thank
you
robert.
I
have
just
some
amplification,
I
think,
of
a
lot
of
the
comments
that
have
already
been
made
regarding
the
elevator,
I
think
it's
pretty
unrealistic
to
think
66
units
or
62
units
are
going
to
basically
use
one
elevator
with
the
second
that's
kind
of
a
freight
elevator
kind
of
not
especially
in
today's
covered
world,
where
you
can
only
put
four
people
in
an
elevator.
You
could
wait
half
an
hour
to
get
up
to
the
sixth
floor.
B
I
think
playing
with
what
robert
just
said
for
the
building
to
be
six
stories
tall
on
all
four
sides,
both
from
the
exterior
facades
and
from
the
courtyard,
is
a
real
challenge,
because
now
you
got
a
big
box.
If
there
was
something
that
could
let
the
height
of
the
different
wings
have
some
variety
and
variation
to
them.
I
think
that
that
would
be
a
huge
change
to
this.
B
B
There's
been
talk
about
the
eyebrows
around
the
windows,
which
I
agree,
give
some
definition
to
the
definition
some
detail
to
the
building,
but
I
think
it's
kind
of
disingenuous
to
say
that
those
are
really
going
to
be
shade
elements,
because
they're
only
looks
like
projecting
out
18
to
24
inches,
so
they're
going
to
wrap
a
little
shade
line
around
the
edges
of
the
windows.
But
that's
all
the
exterior
design
from
the
north
east
and
south
side,
I
think
is,
is
is
close.
B
I
agree
with
sean
that
it's
a
little
too
busy,
but
there's
a
variety
to
it
and
there's
a
movement
to
it.
I
think
the
total
design
of
the
building
falls
flat
with
the
elevation
of
the
east
side
that
faces
market
street.
It
looks
to
me,
like
the
a
cell
block
at
san
quentin.
It's
just
these
horizontal
balconies.
The
face
of
the
balcony
matches
every
single
one.
Above
it
all
the
doors
match
behind
it.
It's
and
so
you're
trying
to
as
people
have
said,
put
lipstick
on
a
pig
by
sticking
all
these
little
elements
on
it.
B
But
I
think
you
need
some
significant
architectural
movement
to
that
side
of
the
building.
There
needs
to
be
some
balconies
that
project
out,
maybe
the
whole
third
floor
is
set
back
three
feet
from
the
second
floor
in
the
fourth
floor,
something
to
give
some
true
interest
and
and
movement
to
that
side
of
the
building,
and
I
think
whatever
you
do
to
that
side
of
that
facade
is
going
to
kind
of
then
automatically
mirror
itself
into
the
courtyard
and
improve
the
courtyard
elevations.
B
B
D
Yeah,
so
the
other
thing
you
know
you
have
this
kit
of
parts.
Basically,
you've
got
the
windows
around
you've
got
the
balcony
treatments.
You've
got
the
use
of
the
different
materials
I
I
would
actually
like
to
see
the
building
respond
more
environmentally
to
what
what
you're
facing
if
you're
facing
west.
Maybe
you
have
a
different
kind
of
overhang
if
you're
facing
south
it's
it's
shallower,
I
mean
really
take
a
look
at
what
the
environmental
impact
is
on
the
building.
D
J
I
just
I
like
what
the
last
tom
you
and
robert
had
to
say
seem
to
make
some
sense,
and
I
think
some
of
what
the
I
think
my
hypothesis
is
that
some
of
the
public
comment
that
feels
like
this
building
looks
like
some
of
the
other
buildings
on
your
website
and
very
similar
of
orange
county
la.
I
think,
that's
what
I
was
hearing.
N
I
just
had
one
minor
thing-
one,
maybe
I
didn't
see
here
and
when
you
mentioned
the
barbecue
grills
on
the
balcony.
I
don't.
If
you
have
common
areas,
I
mean
that's
a
really
popular
amenity
now,
with
these
kind
of
complexes
that
have
a
common,
a
grilling
area
for
people
to
have
you
know
to
do
that,
especially
in
palm
springs.
I
think
it's
important
to
have
something
like
that.
N
So
maybe
that's
something
that
could
be
introduced
in
the
interior
courtyards
on
a
couple
levels
that
could
introduce
some
variety
and
and
and
pop
to
certain
areas.
I
B
And
kind
of
to
relate
to
that
there's
only
one
restroom
that
I
can
see
that's
at
the
swimming
pool
or
sundeck
area.
I
don't
know
that
that's
either.
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
health
code
that
requires
a
certain
amount
of
restrooms
for
a
certain
number
of
people,
but
it
might
be
something
you
need
to
look
at.
E
Yes,
thank
you
for
all
your
your
comments.
I
agree
with
the
I
like
the
idea
of
the
shade
study.
I
think
the
looking
at
the
some
of
the
natural
metal
materials
would
be
terrific
as
they
age
and
have
a
little
bit
more
active
variation
with
them
and
then
also
nobody
addressed
the
tower
that
houses,
the
emergency
exit
and
the
elevator.
E
I
think,
where
the
solar
panels
and
that
tower
come
together,
you've
got
a
huge
plane.
That's
going
to
be
visible
from
the
park
that
it's
just
it's
a
big
block,
concrete
block
wall.
So
I've
not
it's
it's
a
big
bleak
piece
in
my
eye.
Thanks.
J
B
D
Well,
I
know
I
could
I
don't
know
whether
we
continue
this.
We
deny
it.
I
think
we've
made
a
lot
of
comments
and
that
we'd
probably
like
to
see
it
come
back
and
address
some
of
the
comments
we've
made.
So
is
that
a
continuation.
B
A
A
denial
is
where
you
find
that
it
doesn't
meet
the
architectural
criteria
and
basically
the
applicant
needs
to
do
substantial
modifications
to
make
it
conform.
What
I've
heard
from
your
comments
is
that
generally
it
conforms.
However,
there
are
a
number
of
items
which
you've
listed,
that
you
would
like
to
see
further
studied
or
revised,
based
on
that.
What
I
would
recommend
is
that
your
motion
is
to
continue
the
item
to
have
the
applicant
look
at
the
list
of
items
for
revision
or
restudy
and
then
to
come
back
to
the
architectural
advisory
committee.
D
P
Yeah,
so
I
have
a
number
of
a
number
of
items
that
I've
written
down
here
over
a
page
and
a
half
of
items
that
I
can
forward
to
the
applicant.
But
generally
there's
some
discussion
about
simplifying
the
building.
D
P
There
were
some
comments
about
simplify,
is
also
related
to
that
simplifying
materials
and
colors,
adding
landscape
into
the
upper
terraces.
B
David,
I
think
I
would
add
a
very
important
one
to
consider.
The
solar
applications,
specifically
for
the
orientation
of
each
facade
of
the
building
may
be
using
different
materials
or
detailing
the
materials
in
different
ways,
as
they
appear
on
each
of
those
facades,
and
that
in
itself
will
help
to
give
the
building.
I
think
a
little
more
interest.
P
Okay,
there
are
some
currents
as
well
as,
and
that
I'll
probably
relate
to
your
comment.
Mr
chairs,
the
the
courtyard
needs
some
relief.
P
B
Okay,
I
think
we
can
add
david's
list
of
comments
to
robert's
motion
to
continue.
Do
we
have
a
second.
E
B
A
Yesterday,
at
this
point
it
looks
like
it
will
be
a
light
agenda.
I
only
have
two
items
for
the
agenda,
so
it
may
be
a
short
meeting.