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A
Good
afternoon,
everyone
and
welcome
to
this
July
18th
2017
meeting
of
the
sustainability
Commission
of
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
We
are
delighted
that
you
are
here
and,
as
commissioner
Putterman
arrives,
we
are
at
a
full
house
of
commissioners
for
tonight
so
I'd
like
to
ask
J
Bharata
if
he
would
lead
us
in
the.
C
A
D
A
B
Do
Thank
You
commissioners
I
wanted
to
talk
briefly
about
tomorrow,
night's
council
meeting
and
the
item
that
I'll
be
presenting
regarding
leaf
blowers.
I
take
it,
you
might
have
read
the
staff
report
that
I
put
together,
which
is
a
follow
up
on
the
February
staff
report
that
I
prepared
and
based
on
councils
direction
we've
given
them
two
options,
as
you
might
have
read
in
the
report,
for
them
to
consider
your
recommendation
on
a
ban
of
all
gasoline
leaf
blowers
versus
a
ban
on
all
leaf
blowers.
B
We
did
note
in
the
staff
report
that
AMD's
lawn
mower
exchange
program
has
been
released.
Pre-Registration
is
underway
again
that
exchange
is
only
available
to
commercial
landscapers.
It's
not
available
to
the
general
public
and
there's
only
one
dealer
in
the
Coachella
Valley,
which
is
Yoshi
dealership,
did
I,
say
a
lawn
mower.
You
did
I
did
leaf
blowers.
B
Where
do
they
come
up
with
that?
It's
been
a
long
day,
leaf
blowers,
sorry
leaf
blowers.
Yoshi
is
the
dealer
here
and
we've
identified
in
the
staff
report,
the
flyer
that
shows
the
five
models
that
are
available
for
exchange
and
it
actually
includes
one
gasoline
leaf
blower
that
AMD
has
identified,
which
I
guess
has
lower
emissions
than
some
of
the
newer
gasoline
leaf
blowers.
B
We
will
also
have
a
nice
demonstration
project
tomorrow,
night
with
a
array
of
various
leaf
blowers
which
we
will
ensure
are
stored
inside,
so
that
the
batteries
don't
get
affected
by
the
heat
and
we
can
demonstrate
them
at
their
full
capacity.
So
we
can
just
get
an
appreciation
of
the
the
noise
that's
generated
by
both
the
gasoline
and
the
electric
leaf
blowers.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
and
the
public
were
aware
of
tomorrow's
discussion.
B
A
A
G
D
B
F
E
I
do
note
from
the
staff
report
that
the
leaf
that
the
gas
powered
is
one
of
the
noisier
one
that
was
at
65,
so
I
know
one
of
the
objectives
is
a
noise
reduction
and
I
realize
from
reading
a
staff
report
that
even
the
electric
ones
may
require
an
exception,
but
that
was
on
the
upper
level.
So
we're
talking,
about
perhaps
exception
to
exceptions
but
I
would
certainly
join
with
the
subcommittee
saying.
Is
that
I
think
that
there's
a
message?
F
And
I
just
wanted
to
make
one
point
about
the
the
noise
I
think
there
was
a
part
of
the
staff
report
that
said
that
none
of
the
leaf
blowers
would
meet
the
noise
requirements
all
the
time,
but
part
of
what
we've
been
recommending
and
I
know.
Jeff
Coors
is
strongly
behind,
is
training
and
the
blowers
wouldn't
be
operated
at
full
speed.
All
of
the
time
and
I.
Think
training
is
a
real
big
part
of
this.
A
A
In
our
Commission
liaison
report,
section
planning,
Commissioner
Middleton
notified
me
that
she
would
not
be
able
to
be
present
tonight,
but
Commissioner
Friedman
will
certainly
cover
those
issues
in
item
G
2,
so
we're
fine
there.
So
we
are
at
public
comment
time
set
aside
for
the
public
to
address
the
Commission
on
on
issues
that
are
a
part
of
our
general
responsibilities.
If
there's
anyone
who
wishes
to
come
forward
and
speak
now
is
the
time
and
there's
a
standing
microphone
there
and
speakers
have
three
minutes,
and
we
appreciate
your
name
and
your
city
good.
C
Afternoon,
my
name
is
Robert
stone
I've,
been
at
12
year,
resident
of
Palm
Springs
and
I'm
running
for
City
Council
in
November.
I
wanted
to
come
and
talk
today
about
solar
energy
a
little
bit.
Hopefully
everything
you
know
about.
It
is
more
than
I
know,
but
in
case
you
don't
know
these
things.
I
want
to
talk
about
them.
I
have
solar
on
my
house.
I'm
gonna
have
solar
on
the
house
I'm
moving
into
next
week.
C
Actually,
one
of
the
things
that
California
is
doing
really
well
is
handling
renewable
energy
resources
and
we're
doing
so
well
that
we
actually
are
generating
so
much
power
that
we
can't
always
sell
it.
And
just
in
the
last
year
there
have
been
several
times
in
which
the
state
of
California
has
actually
had
to
pay.
C
But
it's
a
supply
and
demand
market,
and
in
those
months
in
which
the
demand
went
below
zero,
then
we
had
to
pay
Arizona
to
take
our
power.
So
there
is
a
solution
to
this,
and
this
is
the
solution
that
Oahu
has
put
into
place,
and
that
is
new.
People
who
want
to
convert
to
solar
in
Oahu
are
now
required
to
buy
one
of
the
whole
house.
Batteries
that
Elon
Musk
at
Tesla
has
been
pioneering,
and
if
they
buy
the
whole
house
battery,
they
can
put
on
their
solar
panels.
C
They
can
store
all
of
their
own
solar
energy
and
go
completely
off
the
grid,
and
so
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
we
are
now
moving
forward
to
a
position
where
we're
going
to
be
requiring
solar
on
new
installations
and
new
homes
and
unsubstantial
remodels
and
additions,
but
I
just
want
us
to
have
a
larger
vision.
This
is
one
of
the
reasons
I'm
running
for
City
Council
I
want
us
to
be
looking
at
the
much
bigger
picture
and
see
what
we
can
do
better.
C
How
can
we
look
at
where
we're
going
to
be
in
five
years
or
in
ten
years
and
in
a
perfect
world
I
would
be
going
to
Elon,
Musk
and
I
would
be
saying
we're
here
in
one
of
the
sunniest
places
in
the
world.
We
have
an
international
reputation.
People
come
here
from
everywhere
how
about
partnering
with
our
city
and
making
Palm,
Springs
and
all
solar
city.
Imagine
the
publicity
value
of
the
slogan
Palm
Springs
powered
by
Tesla.
It
would
be
an
amazing
coup
if
we
could
arrange
something
like
that.
C
This
is
the
kind
of
proposal
that
I
think
we
need
to
be
entertaining.
We
need
to
be
thinking,
bigger
and
I
hope
you
knew
all
of
that.
But
if
you
didn't,
you
know
now
so
I'm
going
to
pass
out
some
of
my
cards,
it
has
my
personal
contact
information
and
my
website
and
you'll
know
how
to
get
in
touch
with
me
and
thank
you
by
the
way
it
was
the
City
Commissioner
for
three
years
and
people
never
say.
Thank
you
to
you
guys
so
I'm
saying.
Thank
you
now.
Thank.
D
A
See
no
one
moving
to
the
microphone,
so
I
want
to
clear
public
comment
closed
and
we
are
at
item
a
welcoming
introductions.
I,
don't
think
we
have
anybody
we
need
to
introduce
tonight.
So
we
are
at
item
B,
Christine
Hammond
report
from
measure
J.
It
says
tentative
Christine
Hammond
is
never
tentative
about
anything.
She
is
forthright
and
on
the
money
and
we
are
glad
to
have
you
come
and
tell
us
what's
going
on
with
measure
Chang
sure
that'd
be
great.
H
I'm
Christine
Hammond
I
was
fortunate
enough
to
be
selected
as
one
of
the
original
commissioners
for
the
measure,
J
Commission,
and
that
2013
I
believe
and
have
worked
with
this
group
for
the
last
five
years.
I'm
moving
into
my
last
year
now
and
I'm
just
going
to
give
you
an
update
on
where
we're
at
where
we've
been
and
where
we're
at,
and
if
it's,
if
you
don't
want
to
hear
it
where
we
were
where
we
started
just
let
me
know,
but
it's
there's
a
process
that
we
went
through.
H
That
I
think
is
telling
about
people
who
are
learning
on
the
job
with
with
something
new
that
we've
never
done
before
so
I'll
just
say
that
we
measure
J
has
in
the
last
in
the
June
meeting.
We
have
just
made
a
decision
about
how
to
move
forward
with
our
third
community
project,
what
we're
calling
community
project
and
we
have
learned
a
lot
since
our
initial
projects
in
2013-14
and
part
of
in
2013-14.
H
We
developed
an
application.
It
was
probably
15
pages
long,
I've
totally
blocked
it.
Out
of
my
mind
at
this
point,
it
was
so
horrendous
because
you
have
to
read
all
of
that
once
you
put
the
application
out
and
they
come
back
in,
we
got
over
300
applications
from
anybody
in
the
community,
businesses,
residents,
visitors,
anybody
who
had
an
idea
submitted
a
15
page
application
or
300
of
those
people
who
had
ideas,
and
we
selected
about
a
hundred
of
those
and
those
hundred
went
into
the
city
coffers
to
get
started
on
production.
H
Because
of
the
kind
of
preparation
that
the
city
had
to
go
through
in
order
to
go
out
to
bid
its
selective
contractor
to
do
the
projects
and
get
the
project
started,
you
have
probably
experienced
with
the
work
that
you
do,
that
it
takes
a
while
to
get
a
project
from
concept
to
a
shovel
in
the
ground,
and
we
learned
that
we
learned
that
we
learned
it
and
I
think
the
city
learned
it
as
well.
It
was.
It
was
sort
of
it
an
overwhelming
role.
You
know,
oh
my
god,
what
have
we
done
kind
of?
H
What
have
we
created
here
kind
of
process?
So
we
did
get
some.
Do
some
really
really
good
projects
during
those
first
couple
of
years,
including
the
iHub?
We
we
helped
fund
the
iHub.
We
helped
fund
measure
J,
help
fund
the
architectural
and
design
museum.
We
helped
to
fund
the
remodel
at
the
High
School
Auditorium,
the
well
with
Murray
library
and
then,
of
course,
all
along.
H
But
we
learned
there
that
the
city
doesn't
necessarily
have
all
the
staffing
to
do
all
the
work
yep
required
to
get
ready
to
do
a
project
like
that.
So
our
next
project,
which
was
2014,
we
decided
that
we
would
theme
the
projects
and,
at
that
point
in
time
we
were
willing
to
accept
suggestions
for
themes.
None
came
forward,
the
we
had
one
suggestion,
and
that
was
hot
spots,
and
this
was
a
pedestrian
bicycle
and
vehicle
safety
program
for
the
city.
H
Take
a
look
at
where
the
hot
spots
were
in
the
city
and
see
how
many
of
them
we
could
fix.
We
were
very
fortunate
to
have
had
the
timing
was
right.
The
planets,
aligned
and
city
council
said
we'll
we'll
fund
this
project
for
three
years.
We
are
now
in
our
third
year
of
this
project
and
which
is
focus
this
year
is
focused
on
sidewalk
infill
walkability,
based
on
what
sustainability
was
working
on
several
years
ago
and
probably
is
still
working
on,
and
our
second
is
crosswalks.
So
we
will,
we
have.
H
The
city
will
be
doing
several
crosswalks
in
key
areas
around
town
to
improve
pedestrian
safety,
so
I
will
say
that
the
sidewalks
were
not
without
their
curious
aspects
and
in
this
particular
project
again,
when
we
went
out
for
input
from
the
community
we
risked
they
could
provide.
Anybody
could
provide
input
on
anything,
and
so
we
as
it
into
that
and
David
is
my
example.
H
Here,
as
it
ended
up,
we
had
people
from
other
neighborhoods
make
suggestions
for
a
neighborhood
or
another
neighborhood,
so
the
neighbors
hadn't
been
asking
for
some
of
these
things
like
sidewalks,
but
other
neighborhood
said.
Oh,
that
neighborhood
really
needs
sidewalks.
Well,
another
major
lesson
that
we
learned
about
just
putting
all
of
this
out,
but
we've
had
great
projects.
We've
had
a
number
of
traffic
signals
that
we
have
been
warranted
and
we'll
be
going
in.
H
It
takes
a
long
time
to
get
a
traffic
signal
installed,
so
I'm
hoping
within
the
next
year
or
so
we'll
see
some
of
these
start
to
happen,
and
we've
added
we're.
Adding
sidewalks
we've
added
a
lot
of
bike
paths
with
Road
diets
on
the
streets,
which
is
another
project.
We
got
more
bike
paths
because
we
partnered
with
the
city
and
did
more
Road
diet.
H
So
we
that
way
it
was
fairly
creative
and
I
think
it
was
a
very
good
result,
so
so
that
that
was
a
great
project,
and
so
this
next
year
we'll
finish
up
the
2014
project
on
sidewalks
and
crosswalks,
and
then
we
will
start
our
third
community
project,
which
is
we
had
two
themes
come
up
for
this
one
being
hot
spots,
2.0
or
hotter
spots,
and
the
second
is
improvements
to
a
number
of
our
parks.
So
the
parks
as
I
said
earlier.
H
What
we
learned
when
these
projects
came
up
was
there's
a
lot
of
design
work
involved
there,
like
with
sidewalks
engineering
at
the
cities,
spent
a
good
year
designing
these
infill
projects.
So
that's
the
beauty
of
a
a
year
project,
but
it
will
I'm
sure
parks.
Will
be
working
very
closely
and
with
the
city
to
design
some
of
the
applications
that
they're
most
interested
in,
including
a
number
of
safety
related
situations
that
they
have
in
parks
that
they
want
improvement
on
the
the
hotter
spots
or
hot
spots.
H
2.0
I
think
we
found
a
very
creative
resolution
to
identifying
projects
for
that,
and
that
was
to
bring
the
police
department
and
engineering
together
and
the
crime
analyst.
At
Palm,
Springs
Police
took
a
look
at
three
years
of
accident
data
related
to
bicycles
and
pedestrians,
and-
and
this
was
actually
this
data
really
caused
us
to
want
to
go
in
this
direction.
Because,
while
we
thought
having
done
a
group
of
projects
for
safety
that
we
would
see
some
improvement
on
the
data
from
2013,
and
we
found
that
no,
we
haven't
that.
I
H
H
What
we've
learned
with
from
the
first
project
and
moving
forward
is
that
one
of
the
major
issues,
and
probably
the
major
issue,
is
to
the
kinds
of
accidents
of
the
kinds
of
injuries
that
people
suffer
in
accidents
as
well
as
death
and
as
a
result
of
accidents
or
collisions,
is
speed
and
faster.
The
speed
of
the
vehicle,
the
more
serious
the
code,
the
injuries
including
death
death,
increases
just
about
Eightfold,
when
the
speed
of
the
colliding
vehicles
are
over
40
miles
an
hour.
So
it's
that
that's
a
very
critical
thing.
H
So
that's
the
sort
of
thing
we're
looking
at
what
Palm
Springs
Police
has
agreed
to
do
is
take
a
look
at
these
areas.
Do
some
focused
enforcement
with
vehicles,
pedestrians
and
bicycles,
and
what
engineering
has
done,
which
I
think
is
absolutely
beautiful?
Is
they
looked
at
this
and
they
put
together?
H
They
responded
to
a
grant
that
seabag
put
together
just
a
couple
of
months
ago
and
I
want
to
say
six
of
their
prize.
Six
of
the
projects
which
will
are
associated
with
this
were
accepted
in
the
grant
and
to
they
the
grant
will
pay
up
to
80%
of
the
expense
of
doing
this
work,
and
so
measure
J
has
rat
is
recommending
to
council
that
measure
J
pays
the
additional
two
million
dollars
for
to
make
up
the
difference
to
get
these
critical
projects
completed.
H
So
I,
just
I
think
it's
amazing
that
we've
gone
from
where
we
were
in
2013
to
where
we
are
today.
The
city
has
an
opportunity
to
do
some
planning
work
together
to
make
things
happen,
we're
using
data
generated
by
the
city,
we're
not
going
out
to
residence
at
this
point
in
time
we
may
add
some
for
the
Commission
may
at
some
point
in
the
future,
but
there
some
very
nice
I
think
the
end
result
will
be
very
good
for
the
community
and
for
our
visitors.
So.
H
H
We
had
a
couple
of
fatalities,
a
lot
just
before
the
end
of
the
year
on
Vista,
Chino
and
Merrill
St
mirror
Leste
is
one
of
the
traffic
calming
areas
that
it
the
the
accidents,
the
fatalities
have
been
very
serious
and
Caltrans
has
been
working
with
one
Palm
Springs
to
improve
that
area,
make
it
safer,
but
also
to
do
a
safety
related
program
for
the
residents
of
Palm
Springs
and
as
this
began
to
roll
out,
it
became
the
residents
of
the
Coachella
Valley,
and
it
now
includes
Yucca
Valley
and
morongo
Valley.
Highway.
H
San
Bernardino
Riverside
will
all
start
working
on
this
kind
of
an
effort
to
prevent
some
of
these
pedestrian
bicycle
situations.
So
you
may
have
seen
these
I'd
seen
four
of
them
now
they're
on
I-10
there's
one
on
the
Dinah
Shore,
but
my
hope
is
that
they,
the
people,
will
take
note
of
this
and
think
a
little
bit.
There's
also
and
I
would
invite
everybody
to
a
press
conference
on
Tuesday
at
9
o'clock
at
City
Hall,
where
Caltrans
will
roll
this
out
and
share
the
program
with
the
public,
although
I
just
shared
it
with
you.
H
A
H
Amazing,
how
that
works?
Isn't
it
and
and
I'll
say
I,
don't
for
years
at
least
about
walkability
I
used
the
survey,
the
windshield
survey
that
sustainability
did
three
years
ago
four
years
ago
as
part
of
the
the
sidewalk
projects
that
are
going
to
be
completed
this
year,
not
all
of
them,
but
a
lot
of
them
yeah.
It
was
it's
that
sort
of
thing
it's
like
when
it
comes
in
front
of
when,
when
people
start
seeing
things
they
remember,
and
then
they
can
move
forward
on
them,
so
I
would
encourage
everybody
to
cross
communicate
with.
D
J
H
H
So
when
you
see
one
of
those
little
trailers
out
on
a
roadway,
it
is
recording
all
of
the
data
for
all
the
speed
map
data
from
the
cars
passing
by
at
that,
given
point
in
time
what
the
city
does
is
they
look
at
the
data
and
pick
out
that
85
percent?
What
is
the
85
percentile
and
they
will
set
the
speed
limit
for
that?
That
is
based
on
what
can
be
supported
in
a
court
of
law
when
somebody
is
given
a
ticket
and
they
go
to
defend
their
there.
H
H
Scandinavian
countries
in
particular,
is
what
is
called
Complete
Streets,
so,
rather
than
looking
at
intersections
they're
looking
at
travel
corridors
and
what
on
each
side
of
an
intersection,
is
actually
potentially
impacting
what
happens
there,
but
also
out
here
and
one
of
the
things
that
they're
talking
about
is
slowing
the
speed
of
traffic.
So
my
question
then,
for
engineering
is:
why
can't
LA
or
San
Francisco
do
something
like
that,
and
we
can't
well
what
LA
and
San
Francisco
we're
doing.
H
I'm
learning
is
they're
they're
putting
in
their
engineering
a
reduced
speed
of
traffic
based
on
traffic
calming
measures.
So
as
an
example,
they
will
put
an
island
in
the
median
similar
to
what
we've
got
I
think
over
there
on
tahquitz
now
well,
we
had
before,
but
what
we
haven't
talked
whit's
is
an
island
and
the
island
itself
will
cause
people
to
slow
down.
H
The
other
thing
that
would
go
along
with.
That
would
be
to
reduce
the
width
of
the
travel
lane
a
little
bit
which
again
causes
people
to
slow
down.
Our
perception
is
to
stay
between
the
lines,
and
so
they
do
that.
So
there
are
a
number
of
other
things
that
they
that
engineers
would
recommend
doing
for
that
sort
of
thing.
It's
all
very
expensive
and
I.
H
My
hope
is
when
this
new
project
rolls
out,
there
may
be
some
money
to
do
some
of
these
traffic
calming
things
that
will
slow
traffic
on
Ramon
Palm
Canyon,
Indian,
sunrise,
East,
Palm
Canyon,
which
is
our
heaviest
vehicle
accident
locations.
So
yeah
that's
a
great
question
and
that
and
it
doesn't
logically,
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
me,
but
but
I
get
that
they've
got
to
be
able
to
support
it
in
a
court
of
law
in
order
to
give
the
tickets
so
and.
I
H
Excited
that
that
the
City
Police
will
make
an
an
effort
to
really
do
some
specialized
enforcement
in
these
areas
on
the
map.
So
in
the
areas
that
are
critical,
critical
accident
areas,
they
will
make
an
effort
to
do
more
enforcement
there
as
it
can,
and
we
know
that
they
will
they
do
what
they
can
do.
D
Was
gonna
make
a
comment
about
the
85th
percentile
I
think
it's
funny
how
the
speed
limits
are
in
increments
of
five,
when
actually,
if
you
average
out
how
fast
people
are
going
and
you
take
it,
85th
percentile,
it's
probably
not
always
in
an
increment
of
five,
and
there
have
been
jurisdictions
that
have
experimented
with
having
a
speed
limit
of,
say,
37
miles
per
hour,
and
those
have
been
fairly
successful
because
people
are
taken
aback
by
peculiar
speed
limits.
When.
H
H
D
H
D
H
H
H
D
H
A
G
Evening
I
spoke
with
Chris
Cunningham
of
Palm
Springs
disposal
regarding
two
things.
First
was
adding
a
third
cleanup
event
as
a
review.
We
currently
Palm
Springs
disposal
currently
conducts
two
cleanup
events,
one
in
the
spring,
the
third
week
of
April,
one
in
the
fall
the
third
week
of
October.
During
that
week,
residents
can
call
in
and
have
items
picked
up
curbside
on
the
Saturday
of
that
week.
They
can
bring
items
to
the
rear
of
City
Hall,
where
Palm
Springs
disposal
sets
up
the
trucks
and
they
collect
the
items
there.
G
We're
asking
that
Palm
Springs
disposal
consider
adding
a
third
Saturday
only
event.
We
don't
want
to
do
it
throughout
the
week.
The
cost
to
do
that
is
a
bit
prohibitive,
it's
8
to
10
thousand
dollars.
So
what
we're
doing
is
we're
writing
letters
to
Riverside
County
as
well
as
Burrtec,
asking
them
to
waive
the
tipping
fee.
That'll
help
offset
part
of
the
cost.
The
second
thing
that
I
spoke
to
him
about
is
a
be
1826
and
also
as
a
review.
That's
the
ordinateur!
That's
the
law
that
requires
commercial
organics
recycling.
G
G
So
what
Chris
recommended
was
that
maybe
we
start
thinking
about
a
written
campaign
or
the
campaigns
that
we
can
go
out
and
inform
these
people
ahead
of
time,
so
it
doesn't
come
as
a
shock
to
them
as
of
1
July
next
year
that
you're
now
required
to
participate
in
this
program.
Much
like
we
did
with
a
bee
3:41
the
commercial
recycling.
Where
we
visited
every
business,
we
handed
them
a
packet
and
explain
to
them
the
law
and
its
effects
on
them.
G
The
city
has
decided
that
they
want
to
go
to
for
shredding
and
e-waste
events
a
year
and
most
likely
we
will
have
those
in
October,
December,
February
and
April.
That's
not
that's
not
set
in
stone,
but
that's
about
every
2
months
during
the
season,
as
you
as
you
might
call,
it
seems
to
work
best,
we're
getting
rid
of
the
e-waste
bin
that
we
currently
have
in
the
Public
Works
yard,
it's
open
to
the
public
24/7
and
it's
not
working
out.
G
G
Ok
and
we
met
with
commissioners,
Daniel
Stacey
and
myself
met
with
Commissioners,
Clarke
and
McCain,
and
to
talk
about
the
CND
ordinance
and
we're
not
necessarily
C
and
D
word,
as
it's
called
a
preferred
hauler
program
and
I'm
sure
that
they'll
elaborate
more
during
their
comments.
And
the
last
thing
is
the
annual
report,
which
is
due
1
August,
is
almost
complete,
so
hopefully
that'll
be
that
for
this
year,
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
G
D
F
A
waste
production
committee
meeting
and
Dan
sent
out
a
copy
of
the
letter
that
was
sent
out
in
2016
and
we
haven't
met
subsequently,
but
I
was
thinking.
It
probably
would
be
a
good
if
all
of
us
who
participated
in
that
meeting,
take
a
look
at
the
the
letter
and
mark
it
up
from
what
really
needs
to
be
updated.
Now
that
we're
it's
a
year
later
and
we're
getting
closer
to
the
to
the
next
change
in
the
law.
That
might
be
a
good
starting
point
sure
and.
G
F
A
little
dry
so
anything
that
we
can
do
to
really
draw
attention
to
this
and
as
we're
seeing
PowerPoint
presentation
that
we
can
continue
to
run
if
there's
a
very
short
version
that
we
can
put
on
the
boat
on
the
Palm
Springs
radio.
We
have
to
do
that.
But,
as
this
is
now
you
know
really
not
on
the
forefront
of
most
of
the
merchants
minds,
it's
becoming
more
and
more
urgent
for
us
to
try
to
begin
this
education
process.
F
G
G
The
problem
is
going
to
be
the
cost,
as
we've
discussed
before,
because
organics
especially
food
waste,
is
so
heavy
that
you
can't
take
nearly
as
much
in
one
load
as
you
could
take
with
trash,
and
you
have
to
transport
it
all
the
way
down
to
Coachella.
You
can't
just
take
it
to
eat'em
Hill.
So
that's
that's
a
long
haul,
a
lot
of
cost
time
things
like
that,
so
we
have
to
explain
to
them
why
the
cost
will
be
as
it
is.
A
G
A
K
Just
a
quick
reminder:
the
Coachella
Valley
Mountains
Conservancy
had
about
ten
million
dollars
in
funding
through
the
prop
one
program
to
spend
on
projects
that
have
a
nexus
with
water
conservation
or
other
habitat
goals
within
the
region
and
they're.
Having
trouble
identifying
viable
projects
for
that.
K
That
would
be
an
access
or
other
groups
in
the
area
and
he
did
have
a
couple
of
project
potential
project
ideas
that
the
friends
are
interested
in
in
Chino,
Canyon
of
relatively
small
size
and
looked
like
it
might
be
a
good
fit
for
the
program.
So
I
spoke
with
Nikki
Nikki
McLaughlin
who's,
the
president
of
the
Friends
group,
and
she
was
also
very
interested
in
exploring
that
possibility,
as
is
I'm
gonna
slaughter,
the
name
because
I
don't
know
how
to
pronounce
it.
But
Cathy.
K
We're
me
up
the
chair
of
the
Planning
Commission
is
also
interested
in
getting
involved
in
that
and
potentially
forming
an
ad
hoc
committee
to
look
at
those
projects
and
see
if
there's
merit
there
and
if
the
city
would
be
interested
in
partnering
with
the
Friends
of
Palm
Springs
Mountains.
To
put
a
proposal
in,
you
know
October
for
some
of
that
funding.
So
I'd
like
to
volunteer
to
be
upon
an
ad
hoc
committee,
along
with
Kathy
from
the
Planning
Commission.
That
would
be
interested
in
city
staff.
If
that's
something.
A
B
B
D
A
B
A
D
A
Yep,
okay,
all
right,
you're
willing,
great,
yes,
okay!
Thank
you!
Perfect,
perfect,
okay
and
it's
good
to
know.
I
mean
I
I
noticed
during
the
presentation,
J
that
you
were
actively
taking
notes
and
C
was
talking
about
those
things.
So
I'm
really
glad
that
that
you
took
some
initiative
to
check
out
what
what
might
be
a
fit
for
us
as
well,
all
right,
great
anything
else.
Mr.
Gauthier,
that's
it!
Okay,
all
right!
Okay,
we're
at
item
number,
two
I
wasn't
sure
as
I
was
creating
the
agenda.
A
J
J
I
think
a
clarification
is
an
order
on
that
issue,
right
off
the
bat
from
my
understanding
now
after
having
talked
to
Chris
Cunningham
this
week
with
Roy,
the
the
initial
step
here
is
for
an
ordinance
that
will
essentially
do
a
plus
up
on
the
amount
of
tonnage
that's
coming
from
construction
and
demolition
facilities
that
go
to
a
diversion
point
rather
than
going
right
to
the
landfills.
So
so
that's
that's
going
to
be
the
content
of
Orden
that
we're
working
on
I,
think
Jerry's
gonna.
J
Take
the
weed
on
that
Roy
and
I
are
gonna
work
more
on
some
of
the
supporting
documentation
for
purposes
of
putting
together
a
staff
report
once
we
are.
If
we
are
successful
in
getting
that
ordinance
in
front
of
City
Council
and
order
them
to
pass
it,
then
it
opens
the
door
and
makes
it
much
easier
for
this
preferred
hauling
program
to
to
come
in
and
say
this
is
this
is
what
we
can
offer
and
then,
if
that
happens,
we
will
have
accomplished
a
good
goal.
So
so
that's
what
we've
been
talking.
J
We
we
have
a
timeline
of
activities
that
we
discussed
today
was
to
bring
this
up
and
discuss
it
to
the
Commission
and
basically
get
hopefully
a
thumbs-up
to
to
continue
to
move
forward
on
this
ordinance
and
then
we're
gonna
work
on
those
two
documents:
the
ordinance
itself,
a
draft
of
it
and
the
staff
reports
hopefully
have
drafts
of
those
available.
Then,
for
the
September
meeting
for
people
to
review.
J
We'd,
also
like
to
at
some
point
in
the
next
two
months,
a
range
of
meeting
if
we
can,
with
with
Jeff
Coors
and
JRR
where's
the
two
sustainability
or
the
waste
people
on
City
Council,
and
give
them
a
heads-up
about
what
we
want
to
do.
What
we
want
to
accomplish,
and
in
particular
we're
also
getting
a
lot
of
background
here
on
the
data
that
we
want
to
present
to
them
the
amount
of
times.
A
B
J
J
The
the
other
thing
that
we
did
is
on
July
12
row
and
I.
Together
with
several
other
Coachella
Valley
people,
we
went
out
and
did
a
tour
of
the
Paris
California
CR
and
our
Environmental
Services
anaerobic
digestor
facility.
Sorry
I
had
it
redone
instead
of
my
property,
it's
a
very
impressive
facility.
What
they're
doing
is
they're
they've
got
thing.
J
This
company
has
the
contract
to
haul
for
several
Inland
Empire
cities
and
right
now,
they're
taking
the
green
waste
that
the
waste
that's
on
the
green
bins
and
some
food
waste
and
they're
putting
it
into
these
big
bins
and
it
sits
in
there
for
about
21
days.
The
microbes
do
their
bit
and
what
comes
out
the
other
side
is
methane,
so
then
the
methane
they're
using
now
primarily
to
power
their
own
fleet
of
trucks.
So
it's
like
this
little
closed-loop
system.
J
We
were,
we
were
very
impressed
with
this
technology,
and
so
the
next
steps
that
we
think
we'd
like
to
do
and
go
forward
or
forward
here,
is
to
approach
seabag
in
some
capacity
and
say
we.
We
think
that
that
we
need
one
of
these
facilities
for
the
Coachella
Valley.
For
all
of
our
communities
and
band
together
and
see
if
that
might
be
a
feasible
way
to
to
go
forward
and
actually
get
one
of
these
built
out
here,
there
is
a
couple
of
competitors.
J
There
is
another
facility
of
probably
somewhere
else
in
California
and
over
where
it
is
right
now,
but
but
it's
a
coach
and
facility
instead
and
we'll,
take
all
this
waste
and
create
energy
out
of
it.
So
it's
it's
jumping
the
gun
a
little
bit
to
say:
oh,
yes,
we
need
this
kind
of
technology
in
this
facility
of
area,
but
one
of
these
is
probably
a
good
idea
for
the
future.
So
so
we're
gonna
as
I
say,
try
to
pursue
this
with
some
other
cities
and
take
it
in
front
of
seabag
at
least
and.
A
So
I,
probably
I'm
just
gonna,
say
if
if
in
fact
you
end
up
scheduling
a
meeting
with
council
members
cores
and
Roberts,
you
might
just
alert
them
to
this
topic
as
well.
I
I
know
that
council
member
courses
on
the
environmental
subcommittee
for
seabag
and
I
don't
know
if
jr.
I
don't
know,
but
all
JR
might
do
so.
You.
H
F
One
thing
that
we
were
talking
about
enacting
a
discussion
after
the
tour
was
that
that
would
be
a
really
good
solution
for
the
ad
1826
organics
waste
issue
and
back
there
was
explained
to
us
on
the
tour
that
like
leaves
and
grass
clippings,
are
more
difficult
to
digest,
but
they
have
developed
a
process
and
a
system
that
can
can
do
that.
Well
and
it
takes
about
21
days
as
Rob
said,
but
organic
waste
like
food
could
be
digested
and
it
might
short
a
period
of
time.
G
Yes,
if
I
could
almost
comment
years
ago,
there
used
to
be
a
thing
called
a
DC
alternative
daily
cover
and
what
you
were
allowed
to
do
when
edom
Hill
was
still
active,
as
you
could
take
the
green
waste
and
use
it
to
spread
out,
and
that
would
help
with
the
digestion
and
the
breaking
down
of
all
the
materials
the
state
did
away
with
that.
So
now
you
have
all
that
additional
green
waste
that
has
to
go
somewhere.
So
that
would
be
another
reason
for
the
anaerobic
digester.
E
Was
also
in
the
torrent
found
it
absolutely
fascinating.
I
met
briefly
with
them,
Kitty
barrows
seabag,
to
talk
about
the
CNE
I'll
get
to
that
in
due
course,
but
she
was
quite
interested
and
I
think
one
of
the
reasons
that
they
organized
this
tours.
They
would
love
to
see
something
like
that
in
the
in
the
Coachella
Valley,
so
I've
follow
up
with
Katie
and
Benjamin
and
I
think
it's
part
of
the
partnership
with
Palm
Springs,
which
is
working
out
quite
well.
E
J
J
A
human
byproducts
that
the
natural
gas
is
the
primary
one
is
it's
the
overwhelming
largest
one.
It
also,
however,
produces
co2,
and
so
that
was
the
only
part
of
the
closed-loop
system
that
was
a
little
bit
problematic
right
now,
they're,
just
the
co2
goes
into
water,
it
becomes
carbonated
and
then
you
have
to
decarbonize
it,
and
the
co2
from
there
just
goes
up
in
the
air.
So
there
is
a
greenhouse
gas
that's
being
generated
here.
However,
they
have
plans
to
to
do
something
about
that.
J
D
J
A
A
F
A
F
A
D
K
A
A
You
know
outside
Commission
meetings
between
commissioners,
but
it's
nominations
are
just
handled
here
on
the
floor
of
the
meeting
I've
served
for
two
years
as
chair
at
this
point.
I
have
one
more
year
on
my
term.
Vice
chair,
Wilson
has
been
vice
chair
for
also
two
years
correct
and
has
two
more
years
on
this
term.
So.
K
A
A
F
K
A
D
A
A
A
E
Can
sort
of
just
as
a
commissioner
chef,
Clark
McCann
I
can
kind
of
combine
this
with
the
way
the
green
building
report,
because
it's
a
pretty
much
the
same
thing.
So
we
have
been
working
very
closely.
I
guess
we're
former
commissioner
Otto
not
sure
how
to
describe
them.
Execute
mr.
otto
and
commissioner
going
tonight
have
met
and
our
impact
meaning
in
this
Thursday.
We
are.
We
now
have
a
date
which
is
Thursday
November
16th
for
the
CNA
seminar.
E
So
we
believe
that
a
budget
of
$10,000
this
was
I
believe
in
the
previous
report,
would
be
sufficient
and
the
Mac
we
are
looking
at
sponsorships
as
I
mentioned,
I
did
meet
with
Kitty
barrows
of
seabag
right
after
the
ad
tour
last
week
and
she'll
be
looking
to
provide
some
support
using
some
of
the
funds
that
they
have
from
SCE
and
and
the
gas
company.
So
I
can't
promise
it,
but
she
did
seems
quite
favorable
I
know.
E
E
So
I
guess
would
probably
be
a
motion
to
approve
an
expenditure
of
$10,000,
some
and
direct
the
committee
to
wear
in
building
committee
to
work
on
that
and
we'd
come
back
in
in
September
with
a
with
a
further
report
and
there
and
perhaps
a
more
defined
budget.
Obviously
the
more
people
we
have
there
is
food
that
we
will
be
providing
food,
so
the
budget
would
be
higher,
get
more
people
which
is
our
goal,
but
then
we
be
reaching
out
to
food
sponsors
to
cover
that
extra
cost.
So.
A
I,
since
this
is
coming
from
a
subcommittee,
I
assumed
it's
coming
to
us
with
a
motion
and
second
from
you
and
Commissioner
coins.
So
let
me
just
ask
in
our
discussion
section
I
know:
Commissioner
goings,
you
you've
been
diving
into
the
budget
in
some
detail.
So
while
we've
not
looked
at
that
yet
until
we
get
to
that
item,
comment
to
us
is
that
a
budget
expenditure
of
the
amount
that
we're
discussing
is
of
no
problem
in
our
yeah.
I
D
A
E
Very
very
quickly,
also
good
news.
We've
submitted
a
proposal
to
monitors
a
week
for
workshop
one,
an
interior,
green
building
techniques
during
modernism
week,
2018
also
with
us
Green,
Building
Council
and
the
American
Society
of
interior
designers
and
commissioner
goings
would
serve
as
the
moderator
for
that
one-hour
workshop.
We
have
so
far
a
favorable
sort
of
interest
from
modernism
week.
They
are
meeting
tomorrow
to
consider
the
proposal
but
I'm
in
touch,
including
yesterday,
with
Lisa
Vossler
Smith,
the
executive
director
of
modernism
week,
and
she
didn't
have
any
questions
and
seemed
to
quite
quite
favorably
inclined.
E
This
would
be
in
the
first
sort
of
couple
of
days
of
modernism
week,
probably
a
Friday
Saturday
Sunday,
which
is
President's
Day
weekend,
and
the
advantage
is
that
a
number
of
the
members
of
the
American
Society
of
interior
designers
la
chapter
are
in
town.
For
that
and
once
again
this
would
be
very
much
picture
for
their
members,
and
so
it
does
look
like
we'd
have
a
favorable
treatment,
so
stay
tuned.
I'll
have
an
answer
probably
first
thing
Thursday
morning
and
have
asked
for
that
from
Miss
Smith.
E
So
I
could
report
back
at
the
Green
Building
Committee
meeting
and
probably
not
much
or
very
de
minimis
budget
just
because
it
would
be
an
official
modernism
week
event
at
their.
You
know,
camp
facility
and
their
tickets,
and
you
know
perhaps
there
might
be
a
you
know
some
collateral.
You
know
PR
from
the
city,
but
de
minimis.
A
E
Because
of
the
various
other
agenda
commitments,
including
leaf
blower
and
City
Council's
of
blown
discussion
of
the
solar
mandate
until
after
returns
from
the
August
break,
I'm,
not
sure
I,
guess
the
September
agendas
are
being
worked
out.
September
20th
council
meeting
is
being
moved
around
because
that's
their
first
evening
of
Rosh
Hashanah.
So
on
council
member
course
and
City
Attorney
God
can
have
indicated
they
were
not
be
available.
E
For
two
watts
per
square
foot
against
what
is
expected
to
be
mandatory
statewide
starting
in
2020
and
mr.
stones.
Mention
of
mandatory
storage
is
something
that
the
Energy
Commission
is
looking
at,
whether
it's
absolutely
required
or
not
as
dependents,
be
seen.
Go
looking
at
that,
though,
as
technology
develops
and
I
expect
that,
if
it's
not
for
2020,
maybe
for
2023
state
will
likely
require
storage.
So
we'll
see
he
raised
an
interesting
point
in
the
energy
commission.
E
City
Council
approved
participation
in
the
C
VAX
Community
Choice
aggregation
program
and
its
meaning.
Earlier
this
month,
Palm
Springs
is
the
first
city
to
do
so.
Cca
will
be
rolled
out
next
year
and
will
give
consumers
the
choice
of
electricity
from
100
percent
or
50
percent
green
energy
choices.
So
if
you
go
with
CCA,
you
can
do
their
default,
which
would
be
50
percent
green
energy.
Currently,
what
you're
getting
from
SCE
is
roughly
about
28%.
You
can
choose
100
percent
green
energy.
E
If
you
want
to-
or
you
can
just
stay
with
SCE,
so
it
really
will
be
three
choices
of
stay
with
us
to
e
go
with
CCA
or
your
all.
Your
in
CCA,
you
have
to
opt,
opt
to
go
in
to
stay
with
at
SCE,
but
if
you
stay
with
them,
CCA
you
get
either
50%
or
100%
green
energy
and
then,
following
up
on
a
discussion
last
month,
I
did
research.
E
So
it
would
be
very
much
sort
of
a
roll,
your
own
kind
of
thing,
and
so
there
I
think,
would
be
some
opportunities
for
the
Airport
Commission
tunnel
and
the
Airport
Commission
to
to
follow
up
on
that
at
least
to
some
additional
research.
So
not
sure
how
that
perhaps
you
can.
You
know
relay
that
to
mr.
Nolan,
but
it
is
a
possibility
and
what
a
number
of
airports
Commission's
have
done.
E
There
are
some
consultants
who
help
you
out
with
that
for
a
small
fee
quote-unquote,
but
their
grants
is
just
as
many
cases
you
know
applying
for
grants.
The
grants
are
available
and
have
to
gravity
granted
a
good
proposal.
Commissioner.
E
A
Let
me
ask
and
I
know:
oh
okay
Jay.
This
is
new
information
and
you'll
be
checking
this
out,
but
I'm
wondering
after
after
you
do
some
bit
of
research,
I,
wonder
if
it
it
could
move
back
to
us
for
a
report
from
you,
I
mean
well
I
know
it
would
ultimately
be
the
Airport
Commission.
That
would
need
to
do
it.
D
E
A
D
A
D
E
Based
on
what
I've
been
reading,
the
answer
is
no,
which
means
it's
going
to
be
whatever
is
the
most
and
and
it's
going
to
be.
It's
going
to
be
variable
because
you're
going
to
be
buying
of
the
CCA
will
be
just
like
Edison
and
the
other
investor
owned
utilities
in
something
called
Cal
ISO,
which
is
essentially
the
wholesaler
for
roughly
80%
of
all
electricity
generated
and
consumed
in
California,
with
some
discussion
of
extending
attempted
to
adjoining
states.
E
But
for
the
moment
it's
essentially
the
California
supplier,
so
they're
going
to
be
buying
and
that
they're
pretty
much
just
going
to
put
an
order
for
X
number
of
kilowatt
hours
and
it's
going
to
be
whatever
is
available
on
the
system,
which
means
in
the
evening
it's
probably
gonna,
be
wind
and
during
the
day
it's
gonna
be
solar,
and
it's
just
going
to
be
part
of.
What's
what's
available,
one
of
the
advantages
of
the
CCA
as
purchaser
is
that
and
their
search
for
additional
sources
is.
E
This
could
be
potentially
additional
economic
incentive
for
putting
geothermal
down
in
the
Salton
Sea
that
doesn't
exist.
But
given
everything
else,
that's
going
on
in
the
Salton
Sea,
it's
a
it's
sort
of
a
plus
I
mean
the
technology
is
slowly
coming
on.
The
economics
aren't
quite
there
and
there
is
not
sort
of
an
additional
I
can
make
incentive
for
for
geothermal.
E
The
way
there
is,
or
at
least
the
technology
is
more
developed
in
wind
and
solar,
so
I
think
largely
it's
going
to
be
a
something's
going
to
be
solar
and
so
I'm
going
to
be
wind
down
the
road
I
think
there
may
be
some
more
to
you
that
are
more
coming
in
no
no
nuclear,
though
I
mean
that
would
not
be
considered
to
renewable
energy.
There's
no
there's
very
little
nuclear
in
California
anymore
anyway.
E
D
A
A
I
Guess
I'll
say
a
few
things:
okay,
so
one
way
to
look
at
what
we
are
attempting
to
do
is
I
mean.
Obviously
the
budget
is
our
means
to
deploy
the
sustainability
master
plan.
So
what
we
really
have
been
thinking
about
our
better
ways
to
sort
of
operationalize
that
plan
pick
it
apart
turn
it
into
things
that
we
can
do
given
our
budget
and
our
constraints,
we've
been
thinking
about
options
and
ways.
We
can
use
the
budget
to
support
that.
I
So
to
that
effect,
we
had
a
couple
of
meetings,
one
phone
call
with
city
staff
and
Michelle
my
cien
to
kind
of
get
to
develop
some
to
get
some
legacy
information
basically
about.
You
know
some
of
the
projects
that
she
worked
on
and
understand
what
her
thought
process
was
when
she
left,
then
we
had
a
second
meeting
with
just
the
three
of
us:
were
we
kind
of
synthesized
the
material
and
based
on
those
two
meetings?
I
We
kind
of
came
up
with
up
with
a
few
thoughts
that
we
wanted
to
throw
out
to
the
Commission
for
discussion
really
just
to
kind
of
let
everyone
know
where
our
heads
are
and
get
a
lot
of
feedback.
Hopefully,
a
lot
of
feedback,
and
one
of
the
first
things
that
we
noticed
after
looking
at
the
material
we've
received
from
the
city,
is
that
they're
sort
of
over
the
last
five
years
sort
of
a
straight
line
on
on
our
budget.
I
So
the
amount
of
funds
that
we
have
available
to
us
hasn't
really
shrunk,
but
the
way
we've
allocated
them
has
so,
given
that
it
seems
that
we
can
potentially
hire
a
staff
person.
If
that's
the
way
the
Commission
decides,
it
wants
to
move
we're
not
taking
a
position
necessarily
you
know
officially,
but
we
want
to
say
that's
what
we're
seeing
so
far.
You
know
make
the
Commission
aware
and
see
what
your
thoughts
were.
I
The
second
thing
is
we
were
thinking
about,
given
that
there
will
be
a
new
fiscal
new
fiscal
year
coming
up,
I
guess
it's!
The
fiscal
year
has
already
started
so
it
will
be
dark
in
August,
I,
guess
and
so
with
when
we
start
in
September
that
a
budgetary
planning
item
would
be
a
good
thing
for
us
to
think
about
just
a
useful
exercise
where
we
can
kind
of
maybe
not
go
through
the
entire
master
plan,
but
just
kind
of
pick
a
few
points
and
say
this
is
well.
I
Do
we
want
to
agendize,
you
know
a
yearly
budgeting
planning
activity
that
we,
you
know,
have
done
some
homework
and
come
back
and
think
about,
and
would
that
be
a
yearly
activity
that
we'd
engage
in
and
so
two
more
quick
points,
given
that
this
count
that
this
commission
is
advisory
to
council
our
role
and
we've
we've
done
this
with
the
solar
mandate
and
with
the
least
lower
ordinances.
We've
given
feedback
and
so
I
think
both
the
master
plan
and
you
know
sort
of
what
this
Commission.
I
It
was
set
up
to
do
supports
the
idea
that
there
would
be
other
activities
where
we'd
offer
feedback,
so
a
few
ideas
would
be
sequel
reports
for
projects
that
require
discretionary
approval,
but
that
also
mesh
with
the
sustainability
master
plan.
So
a
lot
of
times
projects
might
have
you
know
maybe
an
economic
sustainability
component
or
an
active
transportation
component.
You
know
those
will
be
things
that
I
think
City
Council
and
in
some
cases
staff
might
find
our
comments
and
thoughts.
Usable.
I
The
same
could
be
true
for
large
purchases
that
have
sustainability
impacts
that
might
relate
to
the
master
plan.
What
those
are
I
can't
foresee
right
now,
so
that
would
be
something
that
you
know.
Staff
would
have
to
sort
of
keep
in
mind
and
present
to
us.
You
know
if
the
thresholds
were
appropriate,
probably
not
for
small
small
purchases,
but
for
larger
ones
that
have
real
impacts.
That
could
make
sense.
I
For
you
know,
large
commercial
buildings
and
I
find
it
interesting
and
I
think
technical
support
there
from
the
Commission
could
be
useful
so
again.
Ways
that
this
Commission
can
support.
Council
can
support.
You
know,
city
activities,
given
our
Charter
and
the
sustainability
master
plan
and
finally,
ordinances
which
we're
already
doing
but
I
didn't
want
to
leave
that
out.
Last
bullet
point
today
was
just
a
list
of
projects
that
we
thought
if
we
do
decide
to
agendize
a
September
planning
activity.
I
These
are
kind
of
the
ones
that
bubbled
to
the
surface,
based
on
our
conversations
based
on
conversations
with
Michele
and
staff
that
we
might
want
to
think
about
for
next
year,
or
you
know
just
you
know,
throwing
out
some
ideas.
So
basically
what
I'm?
What
I'm?
Attempting?
What
we're
attempting
to
do
here
is
throw
a
lot
at
the
wall
and
see
what
sticks-
and
you
know
in
those
four
categories
basically
is.
I
I
A
But
you
author,
you,
you
reference
the
sustainability
master
plan,
as
our
key
document
I
mean
that
I
think
that
it's
important
for
us
to
realize
it's
been
years,
working
on
that
as
a
as
a
roadmap
forward,
and
you
reference
the
the
thirty
next
steps
which
we've
not
looked
at
recently
as
carefully
as
we
mind
so
so,
I
see
I,
see
that
also
sort
of
relating
to
your
number
four,
which
are
just
specific
projects.
Some
of
those
projects
may
flow
out
of
the
next
steps.
A
Maybe
they
do
maybe
they
don't
right,
but
it
would
be
interesting
to
see
if
there
is
any
overlap
there.
The
other
thing
that
I
will
mention
in
Stacey's
well
aware.
This
is
that
that
in
some
years
in
the
past
there
has
been
additional
commission
meetings
on
off
meeting
dates
for
planning
purposes,
for
looking
at
at
broader
issues,
having
a
more
informal
discussions
to
workshop
the
workshop,
but
I
guess
we
did
did
we
did
we've
probably
had
to
post
it.
Who
knows
yes,.
A
A
We
could
probably
try
to
devote
a
substantial
portion
of
the
September
agenda
at
least
even
an
hour
or
more.
Maybe
we
can
try
to
minimize
other
kinds
of
actions.
Maybe
not
you
know.
We
all
read
everybody's
committee
reports.
So
unless
there's
an
action
item
it
really
has
to
be
voted
on.
We
assume
we've
read
it.
We
don't
talk
about
it,
so
I
mean
they're
big
ways
to
create
a
September
agenda
that
maybe
would
address
your
item
to
degree
plan
a
second
meeting
or
a
different
kind
of
meeting
that
would
be
possible
as
well
and
I.
A
K
I
agree
that
devoting
a
large
portion
of
the
September
meeting
would
be
useful
to
this,
but
it
does
sound
like
a
workshop
might
also
be
a
good
idea
because
it
just
I
think
it's
gonna
take
more
than
an
hour
and
I
think
that
starting
with
looking
at
the
next
steps
is
a
really
excellent
idea.
There's
a
lot
of
good
stuff
in
that
master
plan.
It
inspired
me
when
I
read
it's
one
of
the
reasons
I
wanted
to
join
the
sustainability
Commission,
so
an
all
in
favor
of
taking
that
work
and
seeing
it
implemented.
F
You
could
also
consider,
maybe
on
a
smaller
scale,
like
you
were
talking
about,
to
have
a
meeting
on
a
very
specific
topic
that
you
just
want
to
review,
maybe
a
little
bit
quicker
as
a
group.
That
would
be
maybe
a
study
session.
You
would
have-
and
you
designate
one
hour
for
this
topic
prior
to
your
meeting
or
immediately
following
your
agendized
meeting
a
baby
step
option
in
between
a
big
workshop.
Okay,.
I
H
A
A
F
K
F
A
I
A
I
I
guess
my
thought
would
be
if
you
have
seven
hours,
you'll
use
seven
hours,
but
if
you
have
three
hours,
you'll
use
three
hours
so
not
not
that
we
need
to
create
a
full-blown
step
by
step
day
by
day
plan.
But
just
you
know,
develop
some
high-level
goals.
So
adding
an
extra
hour
might
be
sufficient
to
do
kind
of
a
study
session
idea.
D
F
A
Would
it
make
sense
for
Vice,
Chair,
Wilson
and
I
to
sort
of
partner
with
the
ad
hoc
Budget
Committee,
to
devise
the
plan
for
the
September
agenda
in
consultation,
a
staff
and
we've
got
you
know:
we've
got
six
seven
weeks
to
figure
out
just
just
because
we're
not
having
a
meeting
in
August
and
councils,
not
meeting,
doesn't
mean
that
subcommittees
and
groups
can't
continue
to
do
their
work.
Are
you
on
vacation
Jake?
No
in.
A
B
A
B
A
A
I
Another
thing,
I
would
add
is
that
many
of
the
commissioners
have
deep
knowledge
in
specific
areas
and
one
of
the
things
that
the
master
plan
did
not
have
really
were
sort
of
hurdle
rates
or
metrics,
for
you
know,
outcomes
in
each
of
those
areas.
So
what
does
you
know
a
good
bicycle
plan
actually
do
for
you?
Does
it
reduce
accidents?
Does
it
you
know
those
kinds
of
metrics
and
hurdle
rates?
So
if,
when
you're
reviewing
your
plan,
if
you
want
to
be
thinking
about
hurdle
rates
and
metrics,
that
would
be
exceptionally
useful.
F
A
D
I
Our
technical
advisory
role-
you
know
this
is
what
we
do:
we're
advisory
to
the
council,
and
so
in
a
way
it
feels
very
important
that
we
provide
input,
not
that
it
necessarily
will.
You
know,
shift
direction,
but
that's
what
we're
here
to
do
so
you
know
to
provide
input
on
projects
that
have
sustainability
impacts
but
require
discretionary
approvals
for
purchases.
Those
all
seem
like
very
reasonable
things
for
us
to
be
engaged
in
the
question.
I
guess
becomes
process.
I
How
do
what's
the
trigger
for
staff
to
send
us
a
report
or,
what's
the
trigger
for
us
to
be
notified?
What
does
that
look
like?
When
do?
When
do
we
get
project
information?
You
know
it
could
be
a
resolution
where
we
say
to
Council.
We
want
to
do
this
and
they
say
yes,
you
shall
do
this
or
I
could
just
be
an
internal
that
process
or
you
know,
but
that's
kind
of
what
I
wanted
to
discuss.
A
You
know
we're
a
small
town,
we're
all
friendly
and
we
all
see
each
other
all
the
time
anyway.
So
what?
If
could
we
task
you
to
have
a
conversation
with
Jay
about
the
staff
process
and
then
is
it?
Would
it
also
be
appropriate
to
for
Commissioner
Goins
to
at
some
point
over
the
next
two
months?
Just
raise
this
issue
with
councilmember
Coors?
Who
is
our
council
liaison
just
to
just
to
float
this
topic
with
him?
I
mean
there's
no
point,
that's
sort
of
you
know
about
it.
It
may
just
simply
be
a
reminder.
B
Know
this
is
all
very
interesting
to
me.
I'm
actually
curious
on
as
to
I
think
this
is
related
to
the
sustainability
master
plan.
What
I
don't
know
is
the
level
at
which
sustainability
master
plan
was
adopted.
Is
it
something
that,
in
the
city,
processes
should
be
considered
as
the
city
continues
to
operate?
Should
we
maybe,
as
this
commission
pull
out
items
that
become
part
of
city
policy,
as
items
are
considered
reviewed,
you
know,
do
we
say.
B
E
Is
that
there
is
a
formal,
this
was
our
study
session
in
June
2016.
My
recollection
is
that
there
that
there
was
a
formal
resolution
of
the
council
of
adopting
the
the
sustainability
plan.
Just
you
know,
there
are
other
plants
that
do
general
plan
so
that
it
is
official
city
policy.
A
E
A
E
Joint
was
a
joint
session,
although
I
believe
that
part
we've
kind
of
presented
and
I
think
that
was,
it
was
a
study
session
for
the
joint
meeting,
no
short
of
the
discussion,
but
then
council,
we
left
the
Dyess
council
stayed
because
it
was
then
remained
an
official
meeting
of
council
and
as
part
of
their
official
meeting
agenda,
it
was
adopted.
This
arrest
shouldn't
break
so.
A
But
but
I
think
probably
where
you're
going
is
where
the
rubber
really
hits
the
road
until
somebody
staff
or
this
Commission
or
council,
lifts
something
out
of
it
and
comes
up
with
a
process
and
the
plan
for
having
for
making
something
happen.
It
it's
it's
it's
sitting
on
the
shelf
until
somebody
does
that
whether
or
not
it's
adopted
so
but
let's,
let's
do
that.
Research
even
I
think.
B
A
A
A
D
It's
it's
temporarily
stalled.
Oh,
so
we
don't.
We
don't
have
much
to
report.
We're
we're
working
with
the
city
staff
and
with
the
graphic
designer
to
you,
know,
resolved
a
couple
of
issues
and
move
it
forward.
So
we
should
have
a
lot
more
information
to
the
next
meeting.
Hopefully
it'll
be
done
by
then.
Okay.
L
A
H
A
C
A
L
I
L
A
Could
you
could
you
forward
contact
information
about
this
student
and
maybe
some
information,
if
you
could
send
it
to
Dan
and
to
Jay
and
to
myself
I
mean
I?
Think
I
think
we
thought
that
having
a
connection
to
environmental
studies,
folks
is
this
person
at
Palm,
Springs,
High,
School.
D
A
I
think
we
thought
having
a
connection
through
the
schools
made
sense.
Some
other
commissions
have
student
members,
Lyndon
was
was
not
in
order.
Well,
I,
don't
know
how
the
other
Commission's
do
it
you're
supposed
to
be
a
voter,
so
that
makes
you
18
if
you're
18,
you're,
probably
graduated,
but
human
rights,
or
one
of
the
other
Commission's
has.
F
D
D
A
L
A
L
L
E
Good
news
from
DWA
this
morning
they
issued
a
resolution
commending
the
city
for
its
water
conservation
efforts
which
mayor
moon
and
assistant
city
manager,
Marcus
fuller,
accepted
in
person
during
the
restrictions
period
from
the
June
2015
April
2017,
the
city
saved
28.5%
from
the
2013
baseline
or
more
than
203,
234
million
gallons,
which
is
enough
to
fill
four
hundred
and
sixty
nine
thousand
fire
trucks
or
2.9
million
bathtubs
city
was
a
significant
part
in
DWA.
Achieving
a
cumulative
24%
reduction
during
the
wrister
restrictions
period,
which
is
above
the
statewide
average
for
conservation.
E
Dwa
also
recognized
the
city
this
morning
for
a
project
completed
at
the
talk
which
grief,
Golf
Course,
which
converted
about
50,000
square
feet
and
turf
to
desert
landscaping
in
non
play
areas
and
the
entryway,
and
that
gives
great
visibility
to
more
sustainable
native
landscape
city,
continues
to
demonstrate
interest
in
partnering,
with
TWA
to
protect
water
resources
now
and
for
the
future.
So
the
mayor
was
quite
happy
and
and
and
with
Marcus
I'm
got
a
special
shout-out
in
so
a
good
collaboration
between
the
city
and
DWA.
E
Chewed
consumption,
given
the
weather
with
a
little
bit
less
than
usual
18%
from
the
2013
baseline,
but
cumulative
savings
in
the
service
area.
21
percent,
since
June
2016,
when
the
target
of
a
10
to
13
percent
reduction,
was
announced.
So
a
conservation
continues
in
finally,
DWA
is
holding
a
special
study
session
is
coming
Monday
morning,
8:00
to
discuss
its
possible
participation
in
the
california
waterfix,
which
was
the
large
tunnels
proposed
for
the
Sacramento
River
Delta.
A
A
I'll
just
note
we,
which
Stacey
had
called
our
attention
to
we
do
have
two
vacancies
on
the
Commission
so
over
these
next
couple
of
months,
if
you
as
you
are
about
the
city,
find
people
that
you
think
would
bring
an
expertise
that
we
could
use.
Please
encourage
them
to
go
to
the
city
website
to
the
City
Clerk's
tab
and
find
that
application
would
be
action
by
September
because
of
what's
going
on
with
council,
but
you
can
certainly
drum
up
some
some
interests
so
give
that
some
thought
and
having
lost
Laurie
QP.