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From YouTube: City Council Regular Meeting | Sep 29 22
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Regular Meeting of the Palm Springs City Council, held September 28th, 2022
A
Good
evening,
I
hereby
call
the
Palm
Springs
regular
city
council
meeting
of
September
29
2022
to
order
first
item
of
business
is
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance
at
this
time,
I
invite
all
who
are
able
to
join
me
in
standing
for
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance
foreign
I,
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag
of
the
United
States
of
America
and
to
the
Republic
for
which
it
stands.
One
nation
under
God
indivisible
with
liberty
and
justice
for
all.
A
A
C
C
She
holds
a
Bachelor's
of
Science
in
Business
Administration
and
a
certified
Master's
municipal
clerk
and
election
registration
administer
we're
so
pleased
to
have
her
on
our
team.
Welcome
Brenda.
Also.
We
have
Chris
hadwin
and
Lindsay
page
LP
McCloy
joining
us
Chris
is
our
new
planning
director.
He
joined
us
in
August.
He
was
formerly
the
director
of
planning
and
for
the
New
York
City
Department
of
cities,
planning
and
Staten
Island
Borough,
and
he
was
with
the
New
York
City
Planning
Department
for
seven
years.
C
We
are
very
pleased
to
have
him
join
us
as
well,
and
Lindsey
page
McCloy
has
joined
us
as
the
new
sustainability
director.
She
has
been
with
us
since
August
prior
to
taking
this
position
here.
She
was
the
program
director
for
the
pilots
project
team
at
Los,
Angeles,
clean
tech
incubator,
where
she
led
a
team
that
identified
design,
implemented
and
evaluated
cleantech
pilot
projects
in
Los,
Angeles
County.
She
works
with
startups
cities
and
other
partners
to
build
inclusive
green
economy
in
the
region,
so
we're
very
happy
to
have
her
on
board
as
well.
A
Welcome
to
you
all
and
welcome
to
Palm
Springs
with
that
we
have
the
acceptance
of
the
agenda.
The
city
council
will
discuss
the
order
of
the
agenda,
May
amend
the
order,
add
urgency
items,
note,
abstentions
or
no
votes
on
consent,
calendar
items,
our
request,
consent,
calendar
items
be
removed
for
a
separate
discussion.
The
city
council
may
also
remove
items
from
the
consent
calendar
prior
to
that
portion
of
the
agenda.
At
this
time,
I
would
entertain
a
motion
for
the
acceptance
of
the
agenda.
C
A
D
A
Item
is
public
testimony
at
this.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
city
council
on
non-public
hearing
agenda
items.
Only
two
minutes
will
be
assigned
to
each
speaker.
You
are
asked
to
please
begin
your
time
by
telling
us
what
agenda
item
or
items
you
are
speaking
about.
Please
note.
The
testimony
for
public
hearings
will
be
taken
at
the
time
of
the
public
hearing
and
the
general
public
comment
for
subjects
not
on
the
agenda
will
be
taken
later
in
this
evening.
A
We
do
have
a
number
of
speakers,
so
please
this
is
your
time
and
please
feel
very
welcome
to
use
it.
But
if
what
you
wanted
to
say
has
already
been
said
very
well,
you
do
have
the
option
of
saying
Mr
or
Miss
said
what
I
wanted
to
say
very
well.
Thank
you
city
clerk.
Do
we
have
any
registered
speakers.
E
F
E
F
E
E
F
B
G
This
is
in
regards
to
mpnv
Michael
Joseph
Pitkin,
a
resident
of
Palm
Springs
one
year.
I
am
57
years
old,
Democrat
homosexual
HIV,
positive
in
cancer,
multiracial
European,
theostic,
Satanist,
male
unhoused
unemployed.
In
that
year,
I
lost
my
HUD
Section
8
voucher
I
was
denied
duty
of
Care
Medical
Care
duty
of
Department
of
rehab
gate
employment
in
Palm.
Springs
I
still
cannot
vote.
My
phone's
hacked
and
many
online
accounts.
I
still
cannot
access.
G
I
moved
here
to
be
with
my
older
gay
demographic
I
came
here
with
willingness
to
work
together
and
was
met
with
retaliation
and
revenge.
No
white
individual
should
discriminate
the
black
and
Indigenous
communities
that
history
has
harmed
will
need
to
come
to
terms
amongst
themselves
about
their
own
reverse
discrimination.
Two
wrongs
do
not
make
a
right
I
dispute.
Your
law
enforcement
deterrence
program
cease
and
desist.
Today,
I
ask
for
number
one:
a
new
public
free,
workable
pay
phone
in
Palm,
Springs
California.
G
I
free
from
Social
Service
law
enforcement
cameras
and
monitoring
number
two:
a
couple:
new
public,
free
virtual
Zoom
meeting
rooms
at
the
library
or
Palm
Springs
Chamber
of
Commerce
that
our
VPN
HIPAA
compliant
number
three,
an
adult's,
only
VPN
internet
at
the
library
in
its
own
consenting
adults
area
number
four
Lieutenant
Hutchinson
is
asking
for
two
Palm
Springs
mobile
crisis
response
team
members
on
the
Palm
Springs
police
force.
They
will
address
matters
that
affect
the
unhoused
as
well
as
emergency
concerns
in
the
Palm,
Springs,
inclusive
manner.
F
Good
evening
mayor
and
Council
people
I'm
just
calling
coming
up
about
the
parklets
I
know
you
guys
have
a
vote
tonight
on
whether
to
extend
them
for
one
year.
I
believe
you
guys
have
letters
from
numerous
stakeholders
and
people
in
response.
One
of
them
are
mine,
just
wanted
to
put
a
face
to
it
and
just
remind
you
that
there
are
only
nine
of
them.
There's
some
feedback
that
I've
heard
that
there's
issues
with
parking
I
believe
the
impact
on
parking
is
minimal.
F
In
my
letter
you
can
see
what
we've
addressed
it,
where
we
are,
the
other
thing
I
want
to
bring
up,
is
it
does
revenue
generate
Revenue
in
taxes
and
rental
fees,
and
we
are
currently
faced
with
a
recession,
so
anything
we
can
do
to
help.
Parklets
goes
a
long
way,
and
the
last
thing
is:
if
there
are
issues
we
I
was
on
one
of
the
on
the
committee
for
design
standards
on
these.
The
design
standards
for
these
parklets
are
somewhat
stronger
than
the
design
standards.
F
B
Thank
you,
I'm
Randall,
Sturgis
and
I'm
speaking
with
regard
to
the
neighborhood
cap
and
the
possible
ADA
compliance
issue
and
I'm
speaking
against
both
as
far
as
the
cap
in
the
neighborhood.
The
committee
has
not
really
explained
why
this
is
a
problem.
It's
not
noise.
We
have
one
of
the
strictest
noise
ordinances
in
the
country.
B
What
this
measure
would
do
is
reduce
taxes
from
permits
from
rental
taxes,
and
that
will
be
significant
if
the
study
is
made.
The
second
effect
of
this
measure
would
be
to
depressed
property
prices.
When
Buyers
can't
use
rental
income
to
help
defer
some
of
their
costs.
They'll
pay
less!
That's
simple
economics.
B
As
far
as
the
Ada
issue
goes,
I
think
that
this
measure
isn't
even
in
the
spirit
of
the
Ada
legislation
which
cars
out
houses
and
any
lodging
structure
with
less
than
five
rooms.
Did
the
committee
look
at
any
towns
that
have
forced
compliance
in
this
issue?
Is
there
even
a
single
Town
out
of
the
400
plus
towns
in
America
that
have
short-term
rentals
that
has
this
compliance?
B
The
committee
Likens
these
Ada
issues,
it
Likens
the
short-term,
rentals
to
hotels,
they're,
not
hotels,
hotels,
can
have
a
limited
number
of
rooms,
converted
homeowners
who
rent
live
in
their
homes
and
they
love
their
mid-century
or
otherwise
homes,
and
they
may
not
want
to
make
the
financial
investment
which
could
be
in
the
thousands
or
the
change
in
Aesthetics
of
their
of
their
house.
Thank
you,
sir.
F
Good
evening
staff
members
of
the
council
mayor,
David,
feltman
Palm
Springs
I,
had
the
opportunity
to
read
this
report
a
couple
of
times
and
I.
Think
it's
you
know
got
some.
The
the
work
group
did
a
lot
of
work
and
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
about
moving
the
Checkers
around
on
the
checkerboard.
But
the
report
is
missing.
F
F
F
I'm
going
to
be
speaking
about
item
3A,
my
name
is
Keith
roof
I'm,
a
full-time
resident
of
Palm,
Springs
I'm,
also,
a
property
manager
in
concierge
for
several
short-term
rental
homes
in
Racquet,
Club
Estates
and
in
Vista
Las
Palmas
I'm
in
these
neighborhoods
daily
I
interact
with
neighbors
homeowners
residents
in
the
area.
The
overwhelming
majority
of
these
people
are
fully
supportive
of
short-term
rentals
in
their
neighborhoods.
You
know.
D
F
F
F
The
ability
of
the
density
of
short-term
rentals
in
the
neighborhood
is
higher
because
of
this
Factor,
so
this
Las
Palmas
will
probably
have
a
higher
percentage
of
vacation
rentals
than
the
Citywide
average
due
to
Second
homes
as
well.
When
you
look
at
Vista
Las
Palmas
in
2017,
when
the
ordinance
came
into
effect,
there
were
70
permits.
F
F
E
F
F
Even
Idlewild
and
Temecula
has
passed
a
moratorium
because
of
the
recent
activity
and
increased
rentals
in
those
communities.
It's
appropriate
to
act
now.
There
are
two
points
that
I
would
also
like
to
address.
That
may
be
discussed
or
mentioned
this
evening.
Some
will
say
back
in
2018.
People
voted
in
favor
of
rentals
and
that
support
remains
strong
today.
This
is
not
true.
The
Surge
of
Str,
since.
F
F
I
I
Volunteer
on
the
unit
Palm
Springs,
Unified,
School
District
for
their
homeless
committee,
Martha's,
Village,
fundraisers
and
many
other
small
companies
and
and
non-profit
organization,
Palm
Springs
is
a
majority
of
secondary
Home
Market,
as
as
our
Market
has
changed,
the
secondary
homes
we'll
see
a
major
hit
with
interest
rate
raising,
and
not
only
that,
though,
the
impact
that
it's
doing
right
now
to
our
our
community.
We
have
we
have
teamed
up.
This
is
the
first
time
ever
that
boutique
hotels,
the
general
population
and
all
the
small
businesses
are
thriving.
I
We
just
got
back
from
two
years
of
not
making
any
type
of
money
for
us.
Our
our
small
businesses,
we're
now
generating
tons
of
money.
We're
we're
projected
to
make
25
million
dollars
in
the
next
year
with
25
million
dollars.
Do
you
know
how
much
how
much
resources
we
can
do
to
to
give
it
back
to
our
low-income
housing
or
our
homeless
shelters,
there's
so
many
different
Alternatives
that
we
can
use
with
25
million
dollars.
I
I'm
asking
you
guys
this
from
the
bottom
of
my
heart,
at
being
a
business
owner,
a
small
business
owner
having
hotels
and
understanding
everything
from
the
north
side,
south
side
and
and
the
central
side
of
Palm
Springs.
Please
do
not
kill
our
industry.
We
have
worked
thousands
of
with
hours
and
put
tons
of
money
into
our
city
to
beautify
it.
If
you
want
to
read
address
this,
do
this
in
the
next
two
years,
not
when
we're
our
marketing
our
economy
is
already
crashing
right.
Now
we're
we're
developing
a
hockey
team.
I
I
I
have
been
here
for
over
25
years
visiting
the
city
I
dedicate
my
life
to
this
to
rebuilding
the
future,
and
not
only
that
bringing
back
the
history
of
Palm
Springs
I
love
this
city
I
just
want
you
guys
to
please
readdress
the
concerns
that
we
have
here,
the
TLT
that
what
it's
doing
to
our
community
2500
houses
is
not
enough,
and
especially
the
new
communities
that
you
guys
are
passing
right
now:
they're,
not
allowing
vacation
rentals
as
well.
So
pride
of
ownership
is
a
huge
thing.
I
It
started
with,
with
the
north
side,
you've
seen
so
much
crime
rate,
there's
not
that
much
crime
rate
right
there.
Now,
where
we
see
high
density
areas,
they're
gorgeous,
please
understand
our
community
and
what
we
desperately
need.
I'm
asked
you
and
begging
you
as
a
full-time
resident,
taking
consideration.
Thank.
B
Shannon
Metcalf
Mario
Gonzalez
and
Gerald
Caton,
hi,
I'm,
Shannon
Metcalf,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
allowing
me
to
speak.
I
was
actually
a
part
of
the
work
group
that
was
discussing
these
things
and
one
of
the
first
things
I
wanted
to
mention.
The
diversity
on
the
group
was,
it
was
just
absent.
I
was
the
only
woman.
There
was
a
woman
who
was
there
the
first
night,
but
then
I
think
she
had
other
obligations,
and
so
they
replaced
her,
but
with
another
another
older
white,
male
and
I,
just
think.
B
So
as
far
as
the
recommendations
and
also
you
should
know
that
I
I
own
a
boutique
co-hosting
business
here
in
Palm
Springs,
you
know
I
started
my
business.
You
know
with
my
own
vacation
rental,
have
since
sold
my
vacation
rental
to
have
my
own
primary
home.
It
was
the
step
that
I
needed
to
take
in
order
to
have
my
own
my
own
home,
but
as
far
as
the
2500
Citywide
cap,
it
seems
to
me
that
it
would
be
basically
a
moratorium
right
now.
B
We
have
20
almost
2500
right
now,
they're
something
like
200
in
the
hopper,
so
it
would
probably
take
a
year
or
two
in
order
for
us
to
actually
meet
that
2500.
So
it
would
stop
vacation
rentals
right
now,
and
it
seems
that
that's
what
we
were
kind
of
looking
to
do
is
to
slow
down
and
address
this
density
problem.
Neighborhood
caps
on
top
of
this
seem
redundant
to
me.
B
It
seems
that
these
neighborhoods
are
the
way
that
they
are
it's
kind
of
the
they're.
Naturally,
moving
in
that
direction,
I
was
looking
at
some
of
the
brochures
even
for
Racquet
Club.
When
it
was,
they
were
first
being
sold.
They
were
being
sold
as
vacation
homes,
they
weren't
being
sold
as
primary
homes,
so
they
have
kind
of
a
natural
basis
of
being
this.
B
B
City,
council,
members
and
staff,
my
name
is:
Mario
Gonzalez
30875
date
palm
Drive,
Cathedral,
City,
I'm,
a
resident
of
Coachella
Valley
and
a
business
owner
for
the
past
40
years,
I'd
like
to
speak
in
support
of
parklet
program
item
2B
covid-19
is
variance,
has
put
all
all
of
us
in
a
situation
to
rethink
how
people
engage
with
local
business
all
over
our
country.
Parklets
are
popping
up
and
proven
to
be
very,
very
successful.
B
The
question
is
how
we
continue
to
build
upon
the
success,
the
benefits
and
the
sustainability
of
parklets
for
years
to
come,
specifically
for
our
neighborhood
restaurants,
who
are
the
backbone
of
our
community,
who
have
invested
in
property,
managed
their
individual
parklet
spaces
as
the
city
council
judiciously
respond
and
acted
in
August
of
2020,
allowing
land
use
permits
for
parklets
and
public
right-of-ways
with
design
guidelines
and
because
of
your
actions
and
forward
thinking.
We
are
here
before
you
this
evening.
B
B
The
nine
parklets
are
natural
addition
to
the
fabric
of
Palm
Canyon
Drive.
They
elevate
the
dining
experience,
they
create
energy,
they
are
safe
and
they
are
fun
and
they
Foster.
What
is
this
great
city
is
all
about
fun
in
the
sun
being
outdoors
dining
Outdoors,
Alfresco
Christians
have
been
around
for
decades
in
closing
I
pray.
This
Council
continues
with
the
great
program
and
it
becomes
a
zoning
ordinance
in
perpetuity
myself
and
my
son
Alex
Gonzalez
are
the
owners
of
El
Patron
crafted
tacos
and
drinks
located
at
101
South.
F
J
F
My
lifestyle
in
Palm
Springs,
which
is
what
we
sell
to
Travelers,
a
beautiful
lifestyle,
beautiful
homes
that
are
maintained
by
homeowners,
who
invest
in
their
properties.
If
it
ain't
broken,
don't
fix
it.
What
is
your
sense
of
urgency
with
doing
this
today
or
next
month?
Did
anything
major
happen
in
the
city
with
vacation
rentals?
No,
it's
a
natural
growth,
because
more
Travelers
are
coming
every
year,
residents
have
a
24
7
hotline
paid
by
vacation
rental
owners
that
works
very
well.
F
You
hear
music,
you
call
the
city
someone's
there
within
minutes,
the
back,
the
Bad
actors
are
getting
banned,
the
party
houses
are
getting
banned,
so
we
have
a
working
system
for
everyone.
A
lot
of
homes
were
always
secondary
homes.
This
change
means
the
city
prefers
them
to
be
empty
rather
than
enjoyed
by
people
who
are
willing
to
pay
and
travel
to
Palm
Springs
to
enjoy
your
beautiful
lifestyle
and
I
wanted
to
also
mention
something.
Someone
mentioned
the
interests
of
the
hotel
industry
having
trouble
filling
the
rooms
in
the
summer.
F
B
I
Thank
you,
mayor
Middleton,
mayor
mayor,
Pro,
tem,
Gardner,
members
of
the
consul
friends
I'm
talking
today
on
the
vacation
rental
issue
and
I
just
wanted
to
raise
something
that
really
stood
out
to
me
when
I
got
to
read
both
the
city
reports
and
the
reports
from
V
Ron,
and
that
is
that
we
have
set
either
8709
or
seven
seven
thousand
seven
hundred
excuse
me
is
there's
noise
in
the
background.
Can
thank
you.
We
have.
I
I
B
F
Spiteful
recommendations
which
I
wholeheartedly
support
I'm
a
data-driven,
geek
and
I'm,
really
impressed
with
the
data
that
was
presented
as
a
resident
of
an
Indian
Canyon's
neighborhood,
with
a
high
concentration
of
sdrs,
one
directly
adjacent
to
another
and
another
whose
Spa
is
50
feet
from
my
primary
bedroom
during
High
season
weekends.
It's
just
concerning
to
live
in
a
Motel
6
environment
rather
than
the
high-end
residential
setting
I
have
hoped
and
paid
for.
I
have
availed
myself.
However,
the
vacation
model
hotline
several
times
and
I'm
quite
pleased
to
say
that
it
works.
F
However,
I
object
to
being
responsible
for
an
SDR
owners,
an
ability
to
properly
manage
their
properties.
Nor
do
I
feel
that
it's
my
responsibility
to
contact
the
owner
first,
rarely
a
resolution
occurs
especially
at
two
o'clock
AM
planes
and
license
revocations,
unfortunately
weren't
bad.
The
next
Point
poses
a
question,
but
more
of
a
statements
as
I.
Don't
expect
an
answer,
giving
counsel
person,
hostages,
husband's
business,
to
avoid
conflict
of
interest,
should
she
not
recuse
herself
or
abstain
from
votes
or
or
any
Council
activity
that
focus
on
strs.
B
F
Item
3A
I
purchased
my
house
in
Sunrise
Park
in
April
of
2021
and
applied
for
a
permit
on
March
7th
2022.
I
was
issued
a
permit
while
the
plans
are
in
review.
This
is
a
second
house
that
I
in-laws
and
my
wife
and
I
bought,
so
we
can
enjoy
the
Amazing
Town
at
Palm
Springs,
with
our
three
children
under
six
who
really
just
want
to
be
in
the
pool
all
day
every
day.
F
Part
of
that
plan,
which
was
integral
to
us
being
able
to
afford
the
house,
was
able
being
able
to
short-term
rent
on
the
handful
of
weekends.
We
wouldn't
be
in
Palm
Springs.
Unfortunately,
I've
just
come
to
find
out
that
our
plan
is
now
teetering
on
the
edge
of
viability.
Having
spent
many
years
as
tourists
in
Palm
Springs,
we
debated
for
a
long
time
how
we
wanted
to
become
a
more
permanent
part
of
the
community.
F
We
finally
decided
to
buy
a
house
that
was
falling
apart,
but
in
a
very
nice
and
respected
neighborhood,
so
we
could
build
our
Dream
House.
We
have
spent
over
a
year
dealing
with
Builders
and
the
city
to
get
building
permit
on
a
house
that
was
derelict
and
non-compliant
with
city
codes.
After
months
of
submitting
City
staff
responses
and
the
resubmittals
we
are
still
without
a
finalized
building
permit,
let
alone
being
issued
a
certificate
of
occupancy,
which
would
then
qualify
us
to
apply
for
the
vacation
rental
permit.
F
We
are
not
a
large
Investment
Company
we're
a
family
who
put
a
tremendous
amount
of
our
savings
on
the
line,
so
we
could
have
our
dream
in
Palm,
Springs
I,
hope
we
aren't
turned
upside
down
because
permitting
took
the
year
or
we
didn't
buy
our
house
a
few
months
earlier.
Not
never
knowing
that
these
restrictions
would
happen
at
the
beginning
of
construction.
Please
keep
in
mind
that
broader
restrictions
like
these
will
have
a
harmful
effect
on
small
homeowners.
F
B
F
Members
of
the
city,
council,
City
staff
and
all
of
you
in
the
room,
my
name
is
Jim
Franklin
I'm,
the
president
of
the
greater
Palm
Springs
Realtor
Association
I'm,
here
to
talk
on
3A,
but
I
kind
of
David
Feldman
pretty
much
covered.
What
I
was
going
to
talk
about,
but
I
did
send
the
council
an
email
today,
and
one
of
the
things
was
that
I
discussed
was.
F
B
I
I
If
each
neighborhood
is
limited
to
the
10
as
terms
is
recommended,
it
seems
to
me
that
this
will
force
upcoming
up
and
coming.
Neighborhoods
will
end
up
attracting
the
investors
that
want
these
strs,
and
so
these
are
probably
less
expensive
neighborhoods.
They
will
eventually
gentrify
and
raise
prices
in
those
neighborhoods,
which
is
not
a
long-term
plan
for
affordable.
I
The
city
might
want
to
Champ
its
efforts
into
a
joint
effort
with
DHS
and
create
more
apartment,
opportunities
for
free
workers
and
other
people
at
affordable
housing.
Trying
to
push
back
down
the
prices
is
not
something
that's
going
to
be
easily
done,
even
as
we
might
be
going
into
a
recession
like
it
or
not.
Palm
Springs,
the
company
Laguna
Beach
at
Santa
Barbara,
where
prices
are
up
because
it's
a
nice
place
to
live,
and
people
want
to
be
here.
I
It's
not
a
time
to
take
advantage
of
that
when
people
who
already
are
in
that
are
in
the
process
of
buying
thinking
they're
going
to
be
getting
a
vacation
rental
that
might
be
affected
by
these
sudden
rules.
Changing
and
not
know.
If
they're
able
to
get
the
vacation
rental
in
a
formerly
vacate,
the
rental
friend
in
town.
I
When
I
do
hear
from
some
of
my
clients,
you
usually
from
people
that
feel
like
every
house
in
their
neighborhood
is
vacant,
but
the
hotline
is
a
place,
and
that
does
work
when
there
are
complaints,
so
I
think
the
vacation
rentals
that
are
in
this
town
are
managed
to
benefit
of
everything
because
of
the
tot
bringing
money
into
that
I
think
it's
a
lot
more
forward.
Think
about
working
with
our
neighboring
cities
as
a
group
or
televalley,
and
look
at
planning
of
the
remaining
open
land.
I
B
B
F
Here
to
make
a
comment
on
the
vacation,
rental
cap
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
when
I
bought,
my
house
in
Palm,
Springs
I
pulled
my
money
together
with
my
best
friend
like
any
Millennial
would
do
and
we
decided
to
buy
a
house
here
because
of
the
fact
that
we
have
the
option
to
do
a
vacation
rental
if
we
wanted
to
rather
than
Buy
in
any
other
city
in
the
desert.
That
has
tight
restrictions,
and
so
because
of
that
we
ended
up
buying
in
Palm
Springs.
F
And
while
we
didn't
end
up
using
that
option,
it
was
still
the
reason
we
purchased
in
Palm
Springs
and
since
then,
during
the
pandemic.
We
really
enjoyed
remodeling
our
house
so
much
that
we
started
a
small
home
flipping
business.
We're
on
our
second
and
third
project
right
now,
and
we're
really
worried
that
creating
a
cap
on
this
would
affect
our
bottom
line
as
many
of
the
buyers
who
are
very
quick
buyers.
F
B
I
I
Parental
licenses
in
the
city
of
Palm,
Springs
I've
been
a
part-time
resident
of
home
screen
for
a
little
over
two
years,
I've
lived
in
two
different
neighborhoods
different
Park
Estates
and
little
Tuscany,
while
staying
in
Palm
Springs
I
haven't
had
any
issue
with
any
FH
short-term
vacation
rental.
My
neighborhoods
I've
never
had
called
the
hotline,
although
I
know
it
was
available
to
me
if
it
were
issues.
I
So
I
really
feel
that
they're
this
is
being
brought
up.
The
cap
there's
not
really
there's
a
few
people
complaining
about
it,
but
overall
I
don't
see
what
the
big
issue
is
in
all
the
spring:
I,
don't
any
type
of
analysis
and
reports
on
complaints
going
up
or
any
impacts.
Aside
from
a
few
people
who
are
unhappy
with
some
of
the
vacation
rentals,
we
have
great
rules
that
are
in
place,
they're
very
strict
and
I
think
that
they're
for
me,
they're
working
for
my
neighborhood
they're
working.
I
B
F
Hi,
my
name
is
Dr
Alex,
nasiri,
I'm,
a
full-time
resident
of
Palm
Springs
and
a
local
physician
here.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you,
madam
mayor
and
city
council,
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
briefly
bring
up
a
quick
Point
in
regard
to
this
short-term
rentals
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
do
support
the
work
groups,
findings,
I,
think
that
some
limits
are
and
well
overdue.
I
would
like
to
add,
and
someone
I
don't
know
if
anyone's
brought
this
up.
F
If
there
could
be
a
waiting
period
place,
maybe
one
or
two
year
waiting
period,
please
so
that
when
a
permit
expires,
that
house
goes
to
the
back
of
the
queue
and
cannot
automatically
renew
a
permit.
This
allows
for
more
it
kind
of
prevents
a
prejudicial
situation
where
certain
homes
are
now
granted
permits,
and
then
that
house
maintains
a
permit
long-term.
F
It
allows
different
homeowners
to
put
their
homes
into
the
Short
Pump
differential
Market
without
over
saturating
it
keeping
it
at
the
10
count
by
allowing
for
different
homes
to
come
into
the
market,
rather
than
just
one
house
having
an
exclusive
right
to
in
that.
In
that
neighborhood
long
term,
I
think
it's
really
important
to
prevent
a
prejudicial
issue
occurring
like
that
and
fiscally
it's
really
important
to
prevent
vitilation
of
what
happened
in
2008's
housing
crisis,
because
we
really
want
to
demonstrate
by
having
a
waiting
period.
F
We
demonstrate
that
the
home
owners
who
are
putting
these
houses
on
for
short-term
rentals
they
are
solvent
that
meaning
that
they
are
not
dependent
strictly
on
income
brought
in
to
pay
the
mortgage,
otherwise
we're
creating
another
quasi-sub
Prime,
zero
kind
of
situation
that
created
a
really
bad
situation
in
08.
For
those
of
us
who
were
here
and
remember
it,
we
have
to
be
really
careful.
What
if
the
state
or
the
county
comes
in
overnight,
says
hands-all
short-term
rentals
because
of
the
state
housing
crisis.
F
B
F
F
As
those
preceding
may
have
stated,
the
voice
of
the
people
of
the
city
has
been
heard
loudly
in
support
of
vacation
rentals
with
two
votes
and
across
many
platforms,
I
own
multiple
homes
in
Palm
Springs
one
is
a
current
short-term
rental
and
one
is
not,
as
do
many.
Many
of
my
clients
and
Friends
I
know
some
members
of
the
committee
workers.
F
On
employment
by
the
short-term
rental
management
companies
and
short-term
rental
owners,
and
also
rely
heavily
on
income
created
by
the
short-term
rental
industry
for
their
primary
income,
having
worked
in
management
of
short-term
rentals
as
well
as
real
estate
as
a
whole,
the
majority
of
complaints
against
short-term
rentals
as
homes
and
an
industry
come
from
White
part-time,
seasonal
residents.
It
seems
to
me
that
for.
B
The
sake
of
Optics,
the
council
is
considering,
without
the
necessary
due
diligence
conceding
the
success
and
growth
of
our
City's,
most
primary
industry
and
a
livelihood
of
many
of
its
full-time
residents,
minority
or
otherwise,
to
the
voice
of
this
overtly
outspoken
view.
Thank
you.
James.
Your
time
is
up.
B
A
A
H
F
A
B
A
J
Matamera
members
of
council
good
evening
this
first
public
hearing
is
related
to
the
historic
designation
of
the
Robson
Chambers
residence
oops
I'm,
going
the
wrong
way
the
residence
is
located
in
Warm
Sands
park.
It
was
designed
by
renowned
architect,
Robson
Chambers
as
the
personal
home
for
he
and
his
wife
Helen.
The
home
was
originally
constructed
in
1946
and
was
designed
to
be
expanded
to
accommodate
the
growing
needs
of
his
family,
which
it
was
twice
first
in
1950
and
again
in
1956..
J
J
Here
we
can
see
some
photographs,
historic
photographs
of
the
property,
as
it
was
used
by
the
family
in
the
15
years
that
they
lived
there,
and
here
we
have
photographs
of
the
residents
today,
demonstrating
the
residence's
exemplification
of
the
desert,
modern
architectural
style
in
terms
of
the
criteria
for
consideration
of
historic
designation
of
the
property.
The
historic
preservation
board
found
that
the
property
met
four
of
the
criteria
necessary
for
designation,
and
they
are
listed
here
on
this
slide.
J
That
concludes
my
presentation
to
you,
madam
mayor
and
council
members.
I
do
believe
that
we
have
the
current
owners
and
applicants
Ms,
May
and
Mr
Serrano
on
Zoom,
as
well
as
Mr
Vaught,
who
authored
the
nomination
report
so
they're
available
for
the
public
hearing
section
and
I'm
also
available
for
any
questions.
Thank.
A
B
A
A
A
K
A
L
Good
evening
council
tonight
we
return
to
you
with
the
recommendation
of
vacation
rental
work
group
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
this
is
simply
a
recommendation.
There
is
no
voting
to
place
this
cap
or
to
place
this
density.
In
fact,
council
is
here
to
provide
direction
to
staff
for
what
they'd
like
us
to
do
next
in
getting
ready
to
draft
ordinance
revisions.
I'd
also
like
to
point
out
that
there
was
public
comment
received
entitled
as
a
supplemental
comment
in
data
to
the
vocational
Rental
Work
group
recommendation.
L
D
Unless
we
bifurcated
the
discussion
between
home
shares
and
traditional
vacation,
rentals
I
agree
that
that
is
an
option
if
the
council
is
interested
in
bifurcating
the
conversation,
if
that's
the
case,
if
the
council
wishes
to
do
that,
then
it'd
be
appropriate
to
hear
this.
The
staff
report
and
then
hear
the
conversation
about
home
shares
first,
where
councilmember
Woods
could
step
out
and
then
he
would
be
able
to
come
come
back
for
the
conversation
on
vacation
rentals.
H
I
would
ask
that
we
bifurcate
I,
think
there's
nothing.
The
council
asked
for
related
to
home
shares
nothing
in
the
working
group
before
on
home
shares
and
given
leaving
three
of
us.
We
need
unanimity,
I
think
and
councilmember
woods,
significant
planning
and
other
experience,
I
think
having
him
here
would
be
a
benefit
if
that's
okay,
with
councilmember
woods
and
the
rest
of
council.
M
I
don't
mind
that
whatsoever
I,
just
in
no
way
want
to
compromise
this
very
important
discussion
to
the
community
in
any
way
she
perform
and
I
know
that
some
of
the
I
don't
know
if
the
density
that's
recommended
in
the
staff
report
would
include
home
shares
or
not,
but
if
it
got
into
that
discussion,
that
would
be.
You
know,
I
just
again,
I
want
to
be
very
safe
with
this
and
not
compromise
it
anyway.
So
I'll
leave
that
to
the
City
attorney.
If.
A
L
I'd
like
to
also
thank
our
11-member
work
group
for
their
hard
work
and
dedication.
The
subject
of
vacation
rentals
is
contentions
is
a
difficult
one.
It
was
a
very
there
were
some
meetings
that
we
did
have
a
lot
of
discussion
and
it
no.
There
were
times
that
we
were
not
all
in
agreement,
so
it
was
a
very
difficult
process,
but
we
got
through
it
at
the
end.
L
What
we
presented
to
you
was
a
majority
consensus,
not
unanimous
voting
but
majority
consensus,
so
we
will
get
into
this
at
this
time,
then
the
vacation
rental
work
group
was
selected
at
the
direction
of
Staff.
Following
our
study
session,
we
had
a
public
application
process
with
a
total
of
124
applications
received.
There
were
three
members
of
the
work
group
that
City
staff
recommended
and
the
eight
were
randomly
selected
using
a
program
on
Excel
that
generated
the
additional
eight
names.
A
total
of
five
meetings
were
conducted.
L
We
did
have
two
on
our
applications
that
identified
themselves
as
a
real
estate
background,
because
we
did
not
have
specific
Direction
at
the
time
of
selecting
the
group
to
choose
someone
from
the
real
estate
board.
We
did
not,
however,
like
I
said
we
are
receiving
further
Direction,
so
would
be
happy
to
entertain
further
meetings.
L
If
that
is
what
council
would
like
the
work
group
process,
the
goal
of
our
group
was
to
represent
the
interest
in
the
issue
and
create
a
balanced
recommendation
that
was
acceptable
to
our
work
group
members
work
group
members
were
advised
of
our
Rules
of
Engagement,
which
identified
our
ground
rules
for
Effective
and
respectful
communication
and
to
advise
them
how
we'd
be
making
decisions.
The
decisions
was,
as
stated,
majority
consensus,
meaning
that
we
did
not
have
100
agreement
on
all
of
the
topics.
L
In
fact,
we
took
several
votes
throughout
our
five
group
meetings
and
it
was
whatever
side
had
more
votes,
so
it
wasn't
by
a
percentage.
It
was
simply
who
had
more
so
there
were
votes
that
were
very
close
and
I
did
want
to
point
that
out,
but
not
just
stresses
how
contentious
and
controversial
this
topic
is.
L
L
We've
reviewed
three
topics:
vacation
rental
density,
vacation,
rentals
as
an
ancillary
use
or
secondary
use
of
one's
home
and
the
impacts
on
housing
Supply.
We
did
not
review
any
economic
impacts
to
the
city
and
believe
that
would
be
best
suited
by
professionals
who
who
can
provide
better
information
to
the
city
as
those
who
don't
have
all
the
information
available
to
them.
To
do
that.
L
They
also
stated
that
it's
easier
to
add
additional
permits
than
take
away.
So
that's
why
that
number
was
chosen
as
well.
We
reviewed
different
permit,
Trends
and
solid
numbers,
and
we
felt
that
2500
was
a
good
starting
point
again
with
the
ability
to
add
at
a
later
date,
review
at
a
later
date.
If
that
was
needed
to
again
the
City
by
this
was
a
contentious
item
as
well.
L
It
was
a
lot
of
discussion,
a
lot
of
votes
and
at
various
times
during
our
sessions
we
discussed
issues
of
density
overall
numbers
in
the
units
in
the
community.
We
looked
at
various
data
sources
that
were
reviewed
by
the
group.
There
were
numerous
data
sources
reviewed.
We
did
not
attach
all
the
interior
report
due
to
how
voluminous
they
were,
without
attaching
the
items
that
were
used
in
making
the
determinations
for
these
recommendations
were
most
important.
However,
we
can
make
those
additional
items
available
to
the
public
on
our
website
for
review.
L
The
group
addressed
oversaturation
of
vacation
rentals
throughout
the
city
with
specific
concerns,
including
the
loss
of
residential
community
and
neighborhoods,
with
the
high
percentage
of
vacation
rental
properties.
The
number
of
second
homes
not
utilized
as
vacation
rentals
that
just
sit
vacant
impacts
of
vacation
rentals
to
local
housing
stock
and
the
impact
of
restrictions
on
the
tourism
industry.
Percentages
rescinded
to
the
group
for
review
for
discussion
ranged
from
six
percent
to
20
percent.
L
In
a
stated,
it
was
not
until
August
30th
that
we
reached
the
majority
consensus
of
10,
so
that
again
was
a
very
difficult
number
to
reach
and
there
were
different
items
that
we
looked
at.
Staff
took
data
from
our
vacation
rental
program,
applied
it
to
our
neighborhood
accounts
and
were
able
to
calculate
a
current
density.
We
provided
cindarios
of
impact
of
each
of
those
neighborhoods
in
those
ranges
for
the
group
to
review
the
group
understood
that
any
lowering
of
caps
below
10
percent
would
be
unrealistic
to
would
be
unrealistic
just
due
to
the
current
numbers.
L
A
common
comment
with
the
group
was
just
the
difficulty.
It
was
to
determine
a
number
we
actually,
as
staff
did
a
few
other
City
Council
meetings
that
had
percentage
caps
to
see
how
they
reached
that
number.
There
was
no
formula
used.
There
was
no
specific.
You
know
program
that
they
put
anything
into
determinate
number.
It
was
basically
just
based
on
discussion
of
council
and
public
comments,
so
there's
no
Rhyme
or
Reason
and
I.
Think
that's
why
we
really
struggled
with
that
neighborhood
cap
number.
L
With
regard
to
the
discussion
of
vacation
rental
density,
secondary
and
ancillary
use,
the
group
reviewed
data
on
contract,
summary
submissions
and
the
ordinance
19
conditions,
covenants
restrictions
and
contract
limits.
Majority
consensus
agreed
that
the
city's
regulations
for
limiting
contract
summaries,
barring
corporate
ownership
and
limiting
financial
interest
in
vacation
rental
ownership
were
sufficient
in
regulating
this
majority
consensus
determined
that
no
recommendation
would
be
made
on
this
topic.
H
L
L
L
So
on
the
10
neighborhood
cap
we
had
members
missing,
so
the
vote
was
six
two
three
four
three
six
to
three
for
the
for
the
neighborhood
cap
of
ten
percent
and
we
voted
twice.
We
actually
voted
once
for
ten
percent
and
once
or
twenty
percent,
and
it
simply
just
flip
flops.
So
when
we
voted
for
twenty
percent,
it
was
the
opposite
vote.
H
L
The
impacts
to
housing
again
was
a
difficult
discussion
where
we
came
back
several
times
with
additional
information.
The
work
group
did
consider
a
vacational
rental
properties
that
would
that
could
be
otherwise
used
for
long-term
tenants
or
residents.
If
available.
They
also
pointed
out
that
Palm
Spring
needs
the
construction
of
more
affordable
housing,
including
multi-family
residences,
and
the
group
agreed
that
the
need
to
maintain
vacation
rentals
as
secondary
and
ancillary
use
with
continued
strict
enforcement
of
the
ordinance
was
definitely
needed
to
help
with
this.
L
There
was
the
recommendation
of
the
2500
cap,
and
10
neighborhood
cap
would
assist
with
the
housing
impact,
so
there
are
no
further
recommendation
was
made
on
that
housing
to
impact.
At
this
time,
I'd
like
to
introduce
Patrick
Clifford
he's
going
to
go
over
the
data
that
we
used
in
reaching
these
decisions
and
explain
how
how
the
group
reviews
them.
Thank
you.
N
Yes,
good
evening,
Madam
mayor
mayor,
Pro,
tem
council
members
public
joining
us
this
evening.
You
know
Veronica
did
a
great
job
kind
of
going
over
the
overview
of
all
the
data
that
was
used
in
our
work
group.
With
the
report
that
we
did
submit
to
council,
though
there
was
attachments,
so
I
just
really
wanted
to
give
kind
of
a
brief
overview
of
what
what
the
work
group
did
look
at
and
then
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
pertaining
to
that.
N
So
what
we
learned
at
our
first
meeting
on
719
was
and
between
our
second
meeting
is
there
was
a
really
challenge
of
trying
to
find
out
what
our
actual
household
count
was
here
in
Palm
Springs,
we
reviewed
Census,
Data,
GIS
data
and
even
looked
at
our
housing
element
survey
with
with
that
material.
On
our
second
meeting,
we
did
provide
the
housing
element,
survey,
information
to
our
vacation
rental
group,
and
that
was
what
was
used
as
a
foundation
for
Palm
Springs,
a
household
count.
N
Additionally,
there
was
additional
materials
submitted
to
the
council
where
it
focused
on
criteria
such
as
a
10
percent
neighborhood
cap.
This
data
was
similar
to
the
information
shared
with
our
work
group,
I
just
formatted
a
little
differently
for
ease
of
understanding
and
goes
into
a
different
explanation
of
the
impacts
with
those
defined
percentages.
N
The
group
has
provided
a
spreadsheet
that
Illustrated
Palm,
Springs
neighborhoods
household,
counts.
Vacation
rental
accounts
from
our
latest
count
was
in
July,
20,
July,
28
2022,
and
what
this
percentage
was
to
the
household
counts.
This
was
followed
by
a
percentage
cap
scenarios
between
three
and
twenty
percent,
and
what
number
of
VR
vrs
per
neighborhood
would
be
based
off
of
that
percentage.
N
M
Can
you
explain
this
chart
a
little
better
like
as
an
example,
you
have
go
to
the
slide.
You
just
got
rid
of.
You:
have
a
Palm
Springs
Villas
2,
and
are
you
doing
that
I'm
curious?
Why
that's
there
when
everything
else
or
four
seasons
when
the
other
stuff
is
Neighbors,
I'm,
not
understanding,
because
it
says
neighborhood,
but
that's
not
a
neighborhood,
so
I'm
very
confused.
N
K
N
M
M
N
Am
I
understanding
that
correctly,
as
far
as
the
population
I
can't
answer
them,
but
going
to
that
35
721.
So
that
is
the
number
from
our
housing
element
survey
survey
that
focuses
on
single-family
dwellings
and
Condominiums.
Only
that
number
there
does
exclude
Apartments
the
household
data.
That's
in
the
row
in
the
second
column,
for
example,
Canyon
Corridor
versus
1063.
I'm
uncertain.
If
that
data
that
was
provided
to
me
does
show
apartments
in
that
calculation,
but
the
35
721
is
is
a
number
from
our
housing
element
survey.
That
strictly
says
you
know
single
family.
M
M
N
D
H
N
H
N
N
K
N
M
M
N
Back
one
more
and
so
the
2500
cap
number,
that
was
in
majority
consensus
by
the
group,
was
determined
by
the
current
status
of
vacation
rental
registrations,
as
Veronica
mentioned,
and
the
pending
new
applications
with
the
city
and
our
department.
You
know
at
that
time
when
our
our
meeting
started,
we
were
at
2445
vacation
rentals,
that's
the
number
that
we
really
based
a
lot
of
this
percentage
analysis
on
and
at
this
at
that
time
we
were
close
to
200
pending
vacation
rental
applications
in
our
system,
and
that
still
holds
true
today.
N
N
Implementing
the
2500
cap
would
set
vacation
rental
permits
to
the
highest
that
I
know,
I've
known
and
maintained
data
since
April
of
2017.,
and
in
fact,
once
all
these
applications
that
we
have
in
the
current
queue
are
processed,
will
be
a
little
over
2
700.,
and
this
chart
is
provided
in.
The
presentation
shows
the
growth
since
2017
to
the
latest
figure
that
we
put
in
was
July
2022.
N
N
The
group
also
was
presenting
information,
regarded
ancillary
use
when
the
group
met
to
discuss
this
on
August
16
2022
staff
provided
the
the
current
ordinance
findings.
Our
contract's
summary
information
that
was
discussed
in
our
March
vacation
rental
study
session
and
the
staff
processes
and
ordinance
requirements
with
respect
to
covenants
conditions
and
restrictions
such
as
ccnrs.
N
N
and
the
same
information
from
our
agency
operators,
showing
that
a
median
contract
summary
per
operator
was
20.
and
just
a
little
background
for,
if
you
don't
know
about
the
contract
summaries
is
that
a
contract
summary
is
required
to
be
submitted
by
a
vacation
rental.
This
is
excludes
home
shares
to
the
city
prior
to
each
short-term,
occupancy.
N
There
was
a
report
from
Forbes
the
Airbnb
effect
on
housing
and
rent.
There
was
a
report
provided
by
a
group
member
from
the
economic
policy
Institute,
and
there
was
also
a
report
provided
to
the
group
from
the
Harvard
Business
review,
and
then
there
was
a
report
that
staff
provided
from
the
Milken
Institute
titled
staying
sustained
staying
power,
the
effects
of
short-term
rentals
on
California's
tourism,
economy,
economy
and
housing,
affordability,
Additionally.
N
The
group
was
provided
data
from
another
group
member
that
shows
vacant
homes,
not
that
that
are
not
considered
vacation
rentals
and
it
was
provided
as
a
chart
to
the
group
which
really
kind
of
shows
not
vacation
rentals.
But
these
are
vacant
homes
that
aren't
considered
short-term
vacation
rentals.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
and
we
are
going
to
now
begin
with
some
questions
for
staff.
I'd
like
to
begin
with
just
one
basic
overview:
question
as
I
understand
it.
This
is
shaft
report
that
has
come
to
us
and
you
are
asking
city
council
to
provide
you
Direction
back
to
staff
that
there
will,
and
that
is
correct.
There
will
be
no
action
that
would
be
taken
this
evening.
That
would
actually
result
in
us
taking
a
vote
to
do
X
or
to
do
y.
A
That
would
happen
when
you
come
back
with
a
ordinance
for
first
reading
for
us,
but
we
can
provide
direction
to
you
as
to
what
should
be
in
that
ordinance
when
it
comes
back
for
those.
So
for
those
who
are
thinking,
we
are
going
to
take
precipitous
action
this
evening
to
put
something
into
law.
Is
that
going
to
take
place.
C
H
Thank
you
mayor,
thank
you
for
everyone
who
emailed
us
and
participated
in
public
comment
tonight,
regardless
of
the
variety
of
views
which
many
are
strongly
held.
I
think
there
are
merits
to
all
Merit
to
all
of
them
and
I
appreciate
all
the
work
staff
did
and
the
working
group
for
everything
they
did.
H
H
But
I
just
want
to
clarify,
because
when
you
said
at
the
end,
I
said
okay,
but
it
was
in
the
beginning
of
the
staff
report
on
page
two,
so
one
thing
Veronica
and
both
of
you
thank
you.
I
know
how
much
work
there
was
I
know
how
the
work
there
was
for
the
study
session
in
March
on
all
that
data.
So
I
really
appreciate
all
of
that.
You
mentioned
that
three
of
the
study
group
working
group
were
appointed
by
staff.
L
So
two
members
were
chosen
due
to
their
strong
positions
on
vacation.
Rentals
ones
was
an
opponents
and
one
was
a
proponent.
The
pro
opponent
was
Bruce
Hoban
from
V
Ron.
The
opponent
was
Hank
plant.
The
third
member
was
a
recommendation
by
one
PS
who
wanted
to
have
someone
from
the
neighborhoods
who
was
very
active
with
the
neighborhood
organization,
and
that
was
Chris
rutz.
Okay,.
H
Thank
you.
Do
we
have
any
in
looking
at
the
picture
in
one
of
the
comments,
it
seems
there's
a
lot
of
similarity
in
the
people
on
the
group.
Is
there
any
demographic
information
regarding
the
members,
age,
income,
race,
gender?
What
neighborhoods,
what
districts
do
they
actually
work
in
a
normal,
nine-to-five
job?
Anything
like
that.
L
We
did
provide
some
bios
in
the
report
that
was
provided
to
you
that
briefly
discussed.
We
did
not
go
into
greater
detail
than
that,
we
didn't
ask
for
age
or
whether
they
were
working
or
part-time.
Most
of
it
was
just
information
regarding
what
industry
they
worked
in
and
whether
they
were
neutral,
proponent
or
opponent.
L
L
K
L
C
K
Okay,
thank
you,
I.
The
reason
I
I
raise.
That
is
just
because
this
Council
in
particular,
has
made
it
a
point
to
have
more
diverse
commissions,
more
diversity
and
just
any
working
group
that
we
have,
and
so
this
just
seems
very
out
of
character
for
what
we've
typically
been
trying
to
achieve,
and
so
I
I
know,
I
didn't
even
I.
Don't
think
any
of
us
thought
that
we
we
needed
to
be
looking
at
that
or
giving
that
specific
Direction,
because
it's
direction
that
we've
given
in
the
past
so
that
that
was
just
an
overs.
H
In
this
kind
of
working
group
somewhat
new,
so
you
know
I
think
it's
that's
a
really
important
feedback
just
for
staff,
and
we
talked
about
a
few
categories
to
include
and
you
we
shared
vacation
rental,
industry,
real
estate
and
1ps,
even
though
I
must
say,
I
was
surprised
to
see
seven
thousand
households
they're
still
not
in
one
PS
since
that
was
supposed
to
be.
Everyone
was
supposed
to
be
expanded
to
be
included
by
2019.
That's
not
your
issue,
but
that's
how
we
communicate
with
our
residents
and
we're
leaving
out.
H
I
know,
you
said
you
didn't
know,
there
was
necessarily
Direction
on
someone
from
the
Palm
Springs
realtors
association
I
mean
the
three
groups
that
were
most
engaged
in
one
PS
being
the
fourth
in
the
20-plus
public
subcommittee
meetings.
We
had
last
time
were
the
vacation
rental
industry,
Palm
Springs
Realtors
association
protect
our
neighborhoods,
who
are
against
vacation,
rentals
and
1ps,
which
was
a
mix.
H
L
H
D
H
So
we
haven't
had
an
opportunity
to
review
those
yet,
and
normally
we
at
least
have
links
to
that
kind
of
stuff,
and
the
public
has
that
so
I
think
we're
getting.
Unfortunately,
there's
a
lot
of
information
that
the
working
group
had
that.
No
one
else
knows
that
they
had
and
so
I
know,
I
heard
the
reports
on
what
it
might
look
like
if
based
on
different
density
based
on
how
far
from
property
and
what
other
cities
do.
H
But
we
don't
have
that
so
just
sort
of
for
staff
can
we
make
sure
we
we
and
the
public
always
get
that
ahead
of
time,
because
normally
a
staff
report
we
would
and
so
the
public
not
knowing
what
else
was
considered.
Even
if
it
was
rejected,
I
mean
the
working
group
is
a
working
group
right.
We
have
to
make
a
decision
and
the
public
has
a
right
to
weigh
in
on
that.
H
H
H
L
I,
don't
we
didn't
have
that
data
at
this
time
the
Census
Data
was
very
difficult
to
locate,
as
we
stated
in
March
and
it's
still
been
very
difficult
to
obtain
the
most
recent.
We
did
find
some
numbers,
but
we
definitely
can
do
further
and
bring
that
back
to
you
and
that's
the
direction
we
needed
from
you.
We
will
do
that.
H
H
L
H
Was
one
of
the
issues
discussed
or
was
it
considered
the
possibility
that
neighborhoods
of
the
families
that
are
running
homes
currently
that
don't
have
10
percent
of
the
homes
with
vacation
rentals
can
end
up
losing
those
because
they
are
more
likely
to
be
sold
for
vacation
rentals?
No,
that
topic.
L
H
H
L
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
as
to
doing
a
neighborhood
cap
versus
a
council
District
cap,
because
of
that
we
ended
up
going
back
to
the
neighborhoods
because
they
were
defined
and
because
in
the
districts
when
it
was
distributed,
there
was
a
lot
of
districts
that
had
already
neighborhoods
that
were
higher
numbers
in
the
vacation
rental
industry,
and
then
there
were
also
some
districts
that
had
a
lot
of
res
a
lot
of
Residential
Properties
around
there
at
HOA
that
didn't
allow
them.
So
we
felt
it
would
be
really
difficult
to
distribute
it
that
way.
H
Neighborhoods,
okay,
great!
Thank
you
a
little.
You
know
one
city
I
think
it
was
Cannon
Beach
Oregon
that
I
looked
at,
which
allows
two
rentals
per
month
as
a
way.
So
you
don't
have
every
single
day
during
the
height
of
season
those
impacts
of
having
more
people
for
neighbors,
and
it
spreads
it
out
for
businesses
or
is
that
one
of
the
Cities
you
looked
at?
Do
you
know
no.
L
L
L
To
be
honest
with
you,
we
had
five
sessions
and
it
almost
seems
like
five
sessions.
Weren't
enough,
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
that
got
stalled
at
requests
for
additional
data.
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
that
we
should
vote
again
and
that
you
know
how
do
we
reach
these
numbers?
So
addition
introduce
an
additional
information
at
times
was
difficult
because
of
discussions
often
got
stalled.
H
Okay
got
it
now
in
the
neighborhoods,
where
there
talks
about
other
ways
to
do
it.
I'll
just
give
you
an
example
right
on
my
block
segment.
There
are
seven
houses
across
the
street
three
of
vacation.
Rentals.
One
is
a
Picasso
time
share,
so
the
majority,
the
three
vacation
rentals,
have
never
been
a
problem.
That
being
said,
neighborhood
caps
won't
address
that
so
did
you
look
at
other
ways
like
I,
think
there's
some
cities.
L
H
That
would
be
helpful
because
that
is
one
of
the
complaints,
so
that
would
be
helpful
to
know
that
you
know.
Was
there
any
discussion
and
I
know
we
heard
from
one
speaker
on
the
phone
that
they
and
lots
of
people
they
know
have
two
houses
in
Palm
Springs,
one
they
live
in
and
one
they
use
only
as
a
vacation,
rental
I
know
people
who've
bought
houses
in
the
last
year.
Doing
that
hard
to
argue,
that's
a
secondary
use
when
they've
never
spent
a
night.
There
ever
was
that
discussed
briefly.
L
And
we
actually
had
one
member
who,
who
is
a
who
isn't,
has
an
agency
for
vacation
rentals?
Who
stated
that
that
was
not
true,
that
they
knew
people
who
had
primary
homes
in
the
city
and
they
bought
a
secondary
home
that
they
used
when
they
had
relatives
visiting
to
town.
And
then
they
opted
to
make
it
a
vacation
rental
as
well.
H
But
let's
say
I
did
that
and
I
had
to
be
there
10
days
a
week
and
I
had
to
get
an
apartment
there,
and
so
the
way
I
can
continue.
My
mortgage
is,
if
I
rent
it
out
once
a
month
for
a
week
under
this,
even
though
I've
been
a
22
year
resident
of
Palm
Springs
I
couldn't
do
that.
Yet
someone
has
a
second
home
that
they
rent
out
36
times
and
never
spend
a
night
there.
L
H
Yeah
I
just
think
there
are.
These
are
kind
of
some
of
the
questions
I'm
getting
or
a
new
person
who
buys
here
who
can
afford
it
if
they
rent
out
just
when
they
go
on
vacation
or
someone
who
lives
here
a
couple
times.
So
is
it
a
talk
about
sort
of
what
I
would
call
an
A
and
A
B
permit
like
a
b
permit?
You
run
it
six
times
a
year,
Max
and
that's
unlimited
and
then
no.
H
H
K
K
L
K
L
M
Thank
everyone
for
their
work
on
this,
but
Veronica.
If
I
can
just
have
you
I
know,
there's
been
some
Council
Direction
just
remind
that
the
public
and
all
of
us.
Why
we're
here
tonight,
because
we
have
a
vacation
rental
ordinance
that
is
originally.
We
thought
it
was
the
noise,
the
parking
you
know,
trash
I,
think
we've
got
all
of
that
under
control
at
right.
M
Now
we
have
regulations
in
place
and
we
have
people
scouring
the
internet
on
illegals
which
pop
up
every
day
we
have
a
lot
of
illegals.
There's
so
many
websites
out
there
trying
to
promote
these
these
sites
and
just
trying
to
bring
them
into
compliance
is
a
whole
ball
of
work
onto
itself,
but
we've
got
that
going.
L
When
the
ordinance
was
adopted,
it
was
going
to
be
reviewed
in
a
year.
We
unfortunately
did
not
come
back.
In
a
year.
There
were
some
stalls.
We
did
try
to
come
back
in
2019
that
ordinance.
Unfortunately,
there
were
so
many
edits,
and
so
many
so
much
just
continued
questions
that
it
got
stalled
and
we
were
going
to
bring
it
back
at
a
later
time
and,
as
we
all
know,
covet
hit
and
also
the
pond
litigation
was
ongoing
in
the
courts.
L
We
could
not
address
the
ordinance
during
those
times
just
due
to
because
of
the
pawn
litigation
we
couldn't
address
it.
We
couldn't
touch
it
at
that
time
and
during
covet
with
the
uncertainty,
and
we
didn't
know
what
was
going
to
happen
with
the
vacation
rental
industry,
we
didn't
touch
it
at
that
time
either.
So
this
is
the
first
opportunity
we've
had
to
bring
it
back
since
then,.
L
The
majority
of
the
complaints
that
we
receive
at
our
office
and
we
do
receive
a
lot
of
complaints
that
the
Public's
not
privy
to
is
the
impact
to
community
the
impacts,
the
neighborhoods
and
compacts
to
housing
prices.
So
there's
things
that
the
public
doesn't
see,
and
you
know
it's
we
we
just
want
to
make
sure
what
we
have
is
working
in
place
and
protecting
the
community
as
well.
M
So
you
know
those
are
very
nebulous
things
to
try
and
understand
right
housing
prices
throughout
the
country
have
skyrocketed
during
covet,
especially
during
small
towns
that
are
desirable
to
live
in
when
you
could
telecommute
or
you
could
yeah
telecommute
versus
having
to
live
in
an
expensive
city.
So
people
from
everything
I've
read,
have
cashed
out
and
I
have
several
friends
that
have
from
big
cities
and
moved
to
Palm
Springs
right
because
it
was
affordable.
M
It
was
a
better
quality
of
life
and
they
had
extra
cash
and
they
could
work
right
without
having
to
drive
and
pollute
the
environment
and
all
that
so
I
I'm
not
clear
how
it's
impacting
us.
There
are
people
moving
here
living
here,
working
here
and
I'm,
just
I'm
still
unclear
of
why
there
what
what
the
negativities
of
the
whole
thing
are.
L
This
is
what
why
I
said:
we
didn't
have
enough
sessions
to
discuss
this.
There
are
so
many
additional
items
that
we
could
have
brought
forward
or
needed
additional
help
or
professional
input
on.
It
was
a
difficult
topic
to
handle
and
I,
don't
believe
it
was
completely
addressed.
I
think
both
sides
could
have
had
more
to
say
and
that's
why
we're
seeking
your
direction
and
moving
forward
with
this
so.
M
L
M
And
we
I
think
we
have.
We
know
that
the
vacation
rentals
generate
a
substantial
amount
of
tot
for
the
city
transit
occupancy
tax,
which
goes
into
our
general
fund
that
the
city
can
disperse
at
will
for
that
and
I
assume
each
vacation
rental.
We
can
tell
whether
it's
been
used
substantially
or
Not
by
the
amount
of
tot
that
that
particular
property
generated
and
also
the
price
point
that
it's
at
the
price
point
of
a
condominium.
M
M
As
far
as
quality
of
life
goes,
can
you
just
kind
of
summarize
what
the
opinions
were
in
the
group
and
if
any
of
it
had
Foundation
to
it
or
if
it's
a
sense
of
of
that,
and
let
me
tell
you
why
I'm
asking
that
question
I
live
in
a
neighborhood
that
the
neighborhood
the
neighbor
directly
across
street,
is
here
maybe
three
weeks
a
year,
I
have
a
neighbor
kitty
corner
from
me,
they're,
maybe
here
30
percent
of
the
year
I
have
another
neighbor.
That's
next
to
that
neighbor!
That's!
M
M
L
Quality
of
life.
Most
of
the
comments
we
receive
from
group
members
were
partial
experience.
We
had
those
who
were
in
neighborhoods
where
there
are
a
lot
of
vacation
rentals
who
discussed
the
impact
to
their
day-to-day
life,
with
a
constant
stream
of
new
people
coming
in
and
not
having
that
sense
of
community.
The
noise
that
we
can't
cite
for,
such
as
you
know,
just
increase
traffic
kids
playing
things
that
we
can't
really.
You
know
Place
citations
for,
but
then
the
opposite
end.
L
We
also
had
a
lot
of
our
proponents
point
out
that
our
ordinance
does
work
and
it
doesn't
impact
and
that
we
actually
actually
even
had
some
of
our
work
group
members
point
out
that
there's
a
lot
of
vacation
rental
owners
who
come
to
town
year
after
year
and
do
become
part
of
these
communities
and
partake
in
them.
So
again,
these
are
all
things
that
were
a
lot
of
opinions
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
hard
data
to
support.
M
L
M
L
K
A
My
sense
is
that
there
has
been
some
misunderstanding
of
what
the
recommendations
actually
are
and
what
the
impact
of
those
are
going
to
be.
So
most
of
my
questions
going
to
be
trying
to
make
sure
that
I
am
correctly
understanding
what
the
recommendations
are
and
hopefully
that
the
public
is
as
well
so
I
want
to
begin
with,
with
one
number
am
I
correct
that,
according
to
this
report,
at
the
time
it
was
produced,
we
had
2
445
registered
vacation
rental
permits
in
Palm,
Springs,
correct.
L
I
did
run
the
stats
today,
so
you
would
have
accurate
numbers.
As
of
today.
We
have
two
thousand
five
hundred
and
three
vacation
rental
active
vacation
rental
permits
that
does
not
include
home
shares.
We
have
235
applications
in
process
that
does
not
include
the
I
believe
we
had
10
received
today.
All.
A
L
A
While
we
call
this
a
cap
of
2
500.,
we
would
actually,
by
the
time
we
process
all
of
those
that
are
in
process
plus
any
that
might
come
in
from
those
that
are
in
escrow
or
were
in
escrow
30
days.
We're
going
to
be
somewhere
closer
to
2008
or
900
permits
that
will
actually
be
active.
Is
that
correct.
H
H
A
A
L
A
A
L
A
F
A
A
Right,
there's
been
a
lot
of
conversation
about
the
number
of
homes
that
are
outside
of
an
organized
neighborhood
and
that's
been
a
long-standing
issue
and
it's
an
issue
that
we've
talked
about
at
length
and
that
one
PS
has
done
an
incredible
amount
of
work,
trying
to
bring
everyone
into
a
neighborhood
as
I
understand
your
chart
right
now.
There
are
eight
thousand
seven
hundred
and
nine
homes
that
are
outs
that
fall
outside
of
the
neighborhood.
A
A
M
You
know
there's
kind
of
a
progression
that
at
least
this
is
not
you
know,
I
don't
have
statistics
on
it.
I
only
know
my
personal
and
what
my
friends
are
doing
and
a
lot
of
them
have
moved
out
here.
I
also
have
so
they've
invested
in
Palm
Springs,
which
means
you
know,
there's
a
time
that
out
Palm
Springs
was
derelict
right
and
it
was
really
awful
and
we
have
changed
a
lot
of
these
1200
foot.
M
1200
square
feet,
mid-century
homes
into
gems
that
are
now
in
the
worldwide
market,
for
people
to
ex
to
to
enjoy,
and
when
you
look
through
the
pages
of
some
of
the
rental
companies,
they're
glorious
homes,
you
know,
and
people
can
leave
the
brick
and
mortar
of
Boston
or
New
York
or
Chicago
in
the
director
and
come
out
here
and
have
a
incredible
experience
with
Claire
story
windows
and
all
of
that
and
many
times
that
experience
leads
people
to
move
here
or
buy
here.
Good
or
bad
I.
M
Think
that's
what
happened
and
we've
had
in
my
lifetime
having
been
involved
in
Palm
Springs
for
close
to
40
years,
I
have
seen
a
Renaissance
of
this
city,
a
complete
Renaissance
of
the
city,
largely
due
to
our
architecture,
and
it
is
glorious
to
see
and
we
have
changed
when
I
first
came
here.
We
have
changed
from
somewhat
of
a
dismal
town
right
into
something
really
special
and
I.
M
Think
we
need
to
maintain
that
specialness
to
keep
the
quality
of
life
that
we
have
learned
to
live
with
here,
which
is
founded
on
Hotel
tot
and
and
now
the
tot
of
short-term
vacation
rentals
I.
Do
not
we
have
enough
vacant
storefronts
as
it
is
I'd
hate
to
see
any
more
go
vacant.
The
only
way
you're
not
going
to
keep
those
storefront
bacon
is
to
have
people
come
in
and
use
them
right.
We're
going
to
have
to
keep
our
Parks
up
and
that
takes
money.
M
Investors
move
in
and
I
think
the
city
took
a
huge
change.
We
had
all
kinds
of
investment
groups,
friends
coming
together
to
buy
the
homes
never
to
use
for
their
own.
Never
what
I
explained
earlier
for
a
future
retirement,
but
basically
to
capitalize
on
our
brand
and
our
architecture
and
that
I
think
changed
the
whole
Vacation
Rental
process.
M
M
So
one
thing
I
do
agree
with
the
working
group
that
it
says
they
didn't
come
to
conclusion
is
that
we
really
find
a
way
that
it's,
an
ancillary
use
and
and
I
I
can
tell
you
in
my
neighborhood
alone,
several
homes
have
flipped
and
I.
Don't
think
the
residents
will
ever
live
there,
so
they
are
investments.
M
People
see
the
investment
they're,
seeing
the
amount
of
money
they
can
get
per
night,
and
we
need
to
find
a
way
to
stop
that
part
of
it.
That
I
think
is
the
demise
of
us.
What
we
really
want
to
see
is
somebody
who
wants
to
invest
in
US
loves
our
lifestyle
loves
our
city,
wants
to
fix
up
their
property,
show
it
off
and
make
a
little
money.
So
I
would
really
suggest
that
staff
in
the
working
group
really
look
at
that
process
of
an
ancillary
use
in
more
depth.
M
M
H
H
I,
don't
think
we
should
have
5
000
vacation
rentals,
that
rent
out
36
contracts
a
year,
so
there
has
to
be
a
number.
10
was
one
number
right
and
so
and
just
think
you
know
we
have.
We
have
to
look
at
that.
Realistically,
you
know
we're.
Gonna
have
to
come
up
with
something
if
we
want
to
come
up
with
a
cap
of
some
kind,
just
like
2500,
which
everyone
seemed
to
agree
with.
H
H
H
That's
just
a
big
different
impact
on
people's
lives.
So
we
have
to
accept
those.
There
are
those
impacts
and
to
say
that
there
aren't
impacts,
because
we
have
an
ordinance.
It's
just
not
accurate.
There
are
impacts,
that's
that's!
What
upsets
people
and
I
think
councilmember
Woods
raised
that
and
I
have
not
been
able
to
come
up
with
any
way
to
sort
of
limit
that
other
than
looking
at.
H
H
Why
is
it
fair
that
a
full-time
resident
buys
another
hat,
buys
a
second
house
and
uses
it
for
nothing
but
a
vacation
rental
when
this
is
supposed
to
be
a
secondary
use?
Is
it
fair
that
new
people
don't
get
to
rent
it
at
all
right?
What's
fairer
is
if
you
had
less
contracts
that
everyone
could
use,
that
would
be
fairer,
but
obviously
a
lot
of
people
have
relied
on
a
certain
number
of
contracts
right.
H
If
there's
a
limit,
it
would
be
fairer
to
have
a
lottery
every
couple
years,
but
I
think
that
would
create
an
investment
nightmare
right.
There
are
a
lot
of
difficult
ways
to
figure
this
out,
but
I
think
we
really
do
need
to
look
at
what
is
a
secondary
use
and
what
are
what
are
we
doing
to
make
sure
that
actually
the
owner
is
living
there
a
reasonable
amount
of
time,
because
if
the
own,
if
it's
an
empty
house
other
than
when
it's
rented
an
empty
house,
is
not
a
primary
use
of
of
a
home.
H
In
my
view,
and
so
I
think
we
really
need
to
look
at
I.
Think
when
we
also
look
at
the
Caps,
let's
take
out
our
roughly
8
000
I,
think
Apartments
I
mean
45
percent
of
District.
3
is
rentals
right.
We
have
a
lot
of
rentals,
so
if
you
you
have
to
take
those
out
of
a
10
cap,
otherwise
every
single
home
could
be
a
vacation
rental
once
we
get
the
numbers
down,
but
as
soon
as
we
get
to
25
2499,
this
will
be
a
waiting
list
of
hundreds
of
people.
H
H
So
we
should
look
at
a
minimum
number
right
like
we
don't
want
people
just
holding
permits
and
not
using
them
either
and
I
would
like
input
on
sort
of
an
A
and
B
permit
right,
because
I
think
everyone
should
be
able
people
should
be
able
to
go
on
vacation
and
rent
their
house
a
couple
times
a
year
to
help
make
pay.
The
mortgage
I
mean
I,
know
people
who
they
rent
it
out
during
Coachella
and
Stagecoach,
and
they
go
on
vacation.
H
H
Thing
sort
of
I
think
that
some
more
data
I
agree,
the
housing
market.
You
can
see
what
other
cities
what
have
happened
when
they've
stopped
vacation
rentals,
it
doesn't
seem,
there's
been
a
real
decrease,
but
that
was
during
a
time
we've
seen
increasing
housing
prices
and
a
year
from
now
we
may
be
in
a
very
different
situation.
So
I
think
that's
a
hard
one
to
really
get
much
information
on,
but
I
think
it
would
be
useful
if
that
information
is
obtainable.
A
K
You
so
Palm
Springs
has
always
had
a
lot
of
second
homes.
I
mean
that's
just
been
it's
history
right.
We
had
all
of
these
movie
stars
who
would
come
here
and
use
the
homes
temporarily
and
then
go
back
to
LA.
So
that's
that's
been
our
way,
but
Palm
Springs
also
used
to
be
far
more
affordable,
and
so
you
did
have
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
where
there
were,
they
were
very
vibrant.
There
was
people
with
children.
K
You
know
multi-generational
families
that
lived
here,
and
we
don't
see
that
anymore,
because
the
prices
have
gotten
so
high
and
so
I
think.
That's
for
me
why
I
want
to
know
what
the
impact
is
of
vacation
rentals
on
that
market.
But
as
council
member
of
course
pointed
out,
we
have
seen
that
some
other
cities
that
don't
allow
vacation
rentals
in
our
Coachella
Valley
have
also
had
increases,
not
of
course
million
dollar
homes,
but
in
certain
the
same
percentage
increase
in
their
communities
as
we've
had
in
our
communities
even
without
vacation
rentals.
K
So
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
though,
to
actually
verify
what
that
is
when
I've
had
conversations
with
housing
groups
even
like
lift
to
rise.
They've
also
said
that
vacation
rentals
are
not
the
primary
reason
that
we're
having
this
housing
crisis.
It's.
It
has
a
lot
more
to
do
with
housing
stock
right.
We
know
that
we
have
a
lack
of
housing
in
Palm
Springs
and
we
need
and
not
just
Palm
Springs
of
the
entire
state.
So
we
need
more
physical
homes.
K
That
said,
we
do
have
homes
in
Palm,
Springs,
that
were
rental
houses,
the
actual
single-family
homes
that
were
rented
that
have
been
flipped
to
be
vacation.
Rentals
and
I've
seen
that
very
much
in
district
one-
and
that
was
that's
a
really
tough
thing,
and
we
also
have
had
people
who
are
taking
advantage
of
this
market
and
selling
their
homes
and
the
people
who
are
contacting
them
to
purchase
want
to
do
a
vacation
rental
as
well.
Now,
whether
or
not
they're
also
planning
to
move
here
it
I.
K
Don't
know,
though,
we
know
that
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
we
are
losing
some
of
our
the
fabric
of
our
city,
because
people
are
taking
advantage
of
this
Market,
which
we
can't
fault
them
for
people
have
so
many
different
reasons
for
why
they're
doing
that,
and
of
course,
so
many
people
are
looking
at
Palm
Springs
as
a
place
that
they
can
afford
a
place
now
because
they're
coming
from
a
big
city
and
then
moving
here
later
and
using
that
vacation
rental
aspect
to
subsidize
their
housing.
So
all
of
these
things
are
I,
understand.
K
I,
understand
why
they're
doing
it
I
understand
the
motivation
behind
it.
I
think.
If
we
really
want
to
address
the
lack
of
of
housing
in
Palm
Springs,
we
have
to
build
more.
We
also
should
consider
whether
or
not
we
want
to
allow
existing
single-family
homes
that
are
rentals
to
turn
into
vacation
rentals.
Do
we
want
to
say
you
cannot
turn
this
home
into
a
vacation
rental
if
it
was
most
recently
rented
to
a
long
for
a
long-term
lease
right?
K
That
would
be
something
that
could
possibly
help
this
situation,
but
I
agree
that
we
need
a
lot
more
information
and
obviously,
like
you
said
Veronica
you
could
have
talked
about
this
more.
You
know
for
another
five
meetings
and
still
not
be
done
so
that
that's
a
really
important
part
of
this
I
am
interested
as
well
in
this
ancillary
use,
because
that
was
the
original
motivation
when
making
this
ordinance
was
that
these
were
rentals
that
were
going
to
be
happening
not
as
a
primary
use,
but
we
do
know
that
some
are.
K
But
again
we
don't
have
that
data.
We
don't
have
that
data
of
how
many
people
are
actually
using
this
as
secondary
use
versus
using
it
as
a
vacation
rental
as
their
primary
use.
So
there's
just
a
lot
of
missing
information
that
that
I
would
really
like
to
see,
but
I
also
just
want
to
point
out
I
completely
understand
why
people
are
missing
what
Palm
Springs
used
to
be,
because
that
was
how
I
grew
up.
I
grew
up
with
Desert
Park
Estates,
being
full
of
my
friends.
K
A
I've
been
personally
involved
in
vacation
rental
issues
now
for
eight
nine
years,
beginning
with
when
I
was
asked
by
1ps
to
a
chair
committee
that
was
going
to
be
looking
at
vacation
rentals
and
how
we
move
forward.
I've
also
spent
a
tremendous
amount
of
time,
interacting
with
colleagues
on
cities
around
the
state
of
California.
A
A
The
impact
of
what
they
did
I
think
is
demonstrated
by
the
fact
that
we
are
sitting
here
now,
four
and
a
half
years,
five
years
later,
looking
at
some
revisions
to
the
work
that
they
did,
but
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
that
was
done,
then,
is
we
hired
staff
to
do
enforcement?
We
changed
fundamentally
the
way
that
we
did
enforcement.
A
and
many
many
of
those
who
surrendered
their
permits
during
that
time
did
so
because
they
knew
they
could
not
operate
in
the
fashion
that
they
had
historically
operated
under
the
new
rules
and
the
new
sense
of
enforcement
that
we
were
putting
in
to
this
city.
I.
Repeat
much
of
that
to
make
this
point,
this
industry
is
very
heavy,
heavily
regulated,
and
it
must
be.
A
A
A
A
We
risk
the
voters
of
this
city,
making
Palm
Springs
the
next
place
to
just
simply
say
no.
If
we
turn
our
back
on
effective
regulation
of
this
industry,
I
say
that
as
a
champion
of
vacation,
rentals
I
say
that
as
someone
who
spent
two
weeks
this
summer
in
a
vacation
rental,
actually
in
two
of
them,
one
in
Northern
California
and
one
in
Santa,
Fe,
New,
Mexico
I-
believe
in
this
Hospitality
option.
A
But
we
will
not
have
it
if
we
delude
ourselves
into
believing
we
can
do
so
without
effective
regulation,
and
some
of
those
regulations
have
to
include
at
this
point.
What
is
the
appropriate
number
of
rentals
that
we
are
going
to
have
in
the
city
and,
frankly,
given
as
councilmember
cores
said,
we've
got
to
find
a
number.
A
If
we
were
to
talk
about
this
for
another
six
months
or
another
12
months
or
another
18
months,
we
might
find
a
better
number,
but
we
might
not,
and
what
have
we
put
at
risk
if
we
continue
to
not
act
on
the
recommendations
that
came
to
us
after
six
months
of
work,
I'd
remind
everyone
we
didn't
rush
into
this.
It
is
six
months
to
the
day
since
we
had
the
study
session
on
this
issue.
A
One
of
the
really
critical
issues
that
my
colleagues
have
raised
is
the
question
of
ancillary
use.
I
would
like
to
see
us
move
to
a
place
where,
in
order
to
have
a
vacation
rental,
you
need
to
be
in
the
home
for
some
period
of
time
during
the
course
of
the
year.
I
think
I'm
hearing
some
consensus
around
that.
A
M
M
We
already
have
a
process
where,
just
for
the
public,
where,
if
you
have
somebody
stay
with
you
or
in
your
vacation
rental,
you
have
to
file
the
paperwork
with
the
city
ahead
of
time,
and
that
leaves
the
police
to
know
who's
in
the
building.
It
lets
us
know
how
much
it's
being
rented.
We
can
change
that
part
of
it
so
that
it's
not
kind
of
a
a
you
know
a
24
7
operation,
it's
limited
now.
M
M
Yeah,
okay
and
there
are
a
lot
of
vacation
rentals
in
Ocotillo
Lodge
and,
quite
frankly,
they
may
eat
up
the
person
and
that's
a
contained
Community
contain
pool
everything's
contained
in
that
right,
so
I
assume
that
neighborhood
and
all
that
would
be
administered
by
their
management
or
their
HOA,
but
that
number
in
there
may
take
away
from
somebody
who
has
a
single
family
home
in
a
very
desirable
neighborhood
who
might
want
to
rent
it.
So
I
think
there
are
unintended
consequences
to
putting
a
number
right
per
neighborhood.
M
I,
don't
think
that's
the
really
the
appropriate,
and
if
you
have
Condominiums
and
other
neighborhoods,
the
same
thing
will
happen
when
they
can
rent
out
those
Condominiums.
So
it's
a
skewed
number
because
it's
a
very
different
thing
when
somebody
rents
out
a
home
and
what
neighbors
feel
is
an
impact
than
when
you
live
in
something
like
ocotillage
part-time.
M
M
We
see
that
there
are
a
ton
by
your
maps
and
everything
the
working
group
did
of
so
many
vacant
homes
in
this
city,
right
they
bring
in
property
tax
right
and
the
pool
guy
gets
hired
and
the
gardener
gets
hired,
but
they
sit
there
right
exclusively.
It's
like
Aspen
or
something
you
know,
and
is
that
what
we
want
to
be?
We
are
an
inclusive
community
that
wants
to
invite
people
in
introduce
them
to
our
lifestyle
and
have
them
stay
here.
M
So
I,
don't
think.
Just
an
arbitrary
cap,
which
we
know
is
way
too
low
already,
which
has
been
pointed
out
by
the
mayor,
is
the
way
to
go
and
I
would
say.
The
working
group
and
staff
should
look
at
that.
We
have
37
000
units
on
it
and
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
cap
to
make
sure
I'm
clear,
not
including
home
shares.
M
Just
you
know
the
cap
of
vacation
rentals
and
we
have
46
000
people,
that's
a
lot
of
vacant
units
right
and
they
don't
they're,
not
participating
in
government
they're,
not
using
our.
You
know,
they're
using
our
Parks
or
services
and
the
people
that
live
here
off
of
these
vacation
rentals.
If
we
cap
it
get
an
incredible
quality
of
life
for
a
small
town,
that's
absolutely
off
the
hooks.
M
You
know
it's
just
incredible
and
we
do
that
through
our
tot.
Without
that
and
without
making
us
a
unique
place
to
come,
that
would
be
killed
so
I.
Don't
think
that
a
arbitrary
number,
which
we
know
is
already
inadequate,
is
the
right
way
to
go.
So
that's
my
two
cents
and
I
would
ask
staff
in
the
working
group
to
look
at
this
stronger.
K
I
feel
a
little
distracted,
I
think
that
there
there
is
there's
a
difference
between
vacant
homes
that
are
truly
vacant.
Nobody
lives
there
and
vacant
homes
that
are
cited
in
this
report
right
because
you're
talking
about
vacant
homes
in
general,
whether
somebody
comes
once
a
year
or
whether
they
come
100
times
a
year,
but
they
just
don't
consider
it
their
primary
presidents.
L
K
So
part
of
the
problem
is
that
we
have
a
lot
of
vacation,
rentals
and
a
lot
of
second
homes,
and
then
that's
why
we
get
some
of
these
noise
issues
and
complaints
and
I
know
that
Veronica
you've
said
in
the
past
too,
that
sometimes
people
call
the
hotline
on
what
they
think
is
a
vacation
rental,
but
it's
actually
someone's
personal
residence
correct
it's
their
second
home.
So
so
this
is
part
of
why.
There's
this
push
and
pull
and
there's
this
difficulty
in
regulations
I.
K
K
So
it's
so
there's
people
who
are
interested
in
doing
this
just
a
handful
of
times
and
they're,
most
likely
permanent
residents
and
I,
don't
want
to
take
that
option
away
from
permanent
residents.
I,
don't
think
it
needs
to
be
a
permit
that
allows
for
less
than
12
times
a
year.
I
think,
if
we're
only
focusing
on
permanent
residents,
then
it
can
be
four
times
a
year
right
to
really
make
sure
we're
maintaining
that.
But
I
am
interested
in
that
part
as
well.
K
But
I
agree
with
the
mayor
that
what
we
have
before
us
is
is
pretty
reasonable
and
it's
again
it's
going
to
take
years
before
we're
actually
going
to
go
back
to
a
2500
cap
and
in
that
time
frame
we
can
always
re-look
at
it.
Just
like
we've
looked
at
this
issue
several
times
since
vacation
rentals
started
to
come
to
Palm
Springs.
H
H
There
are
things
we
can
do
to
send
the
message
that
this
is
an
issue
right,
I
mean
I,
have
friends
who,
in
the
last
two
years,
have
bought
a
second
home
and
it
will
never
sleep
in
it
right
they're,
trying
to
rent
it
36
times
a
year
and
hope
hoping
prices
continue
to
go
up.
I
think
that's
pretty
risky,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
are
doing
that
and
that
is
a
problem.
I
think
we
need
some
density
on
the
main
permit
right.
H
We
need
some
density,
I,
don't
know,
neighborhoods
may
be
the
best
way
to
do
it.
I,
don't
think
it
solves
the
cluster
issue,
which
is
the
thing
I
hear
most
the
people
are
right.
You
know,
I
know
people
who
have
moved
into
HOAs
because
both
sides,
the
back
two
corners,
we're
all
vacation
rentals.
It
was
just.
There
was
always
that
going
on
I,
don't
know
how
we
do
that
and
that's
why
I
asked
like
how
other
cities
might
do
it,
because
we
need
to
do
something
on
that.
H
In
my
view,
if
you
know
it's
ten
percent
for
the
next
six
months
as
we
look
at
it,
you
know,
but
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
it
right.
I
think
we
need
I.
Also
I
do
have
a
lot
of
concern
about
having
500
new
permits
and
a
lot
of
them
not
using
them
right
and
that
doesn't
help
anyone
so
I.
Don't
how
do
we
address
that?
Just
from
a
City
attorney
perspective,
I
agree
I
appreciate
people
who
are
ready
in
escrow
things
like
that.
H
But
you
know
this
is
going
to
take
three
or
four
months
before
it's
actually
an
ordinance
that
has
two
readings
and
then
30
days
to
go
into
effect
and
who
knows
what
challenges
we
make
at
as
we
have
every
time
we've
tried
to
do
anything
from
one
side
or
the
other
I'm
just
concerned
about
right.
That
issue
and
I.
H
D
H
A
So
I'm
very
supportive
of
the
idea
of
some
type
of
an
A
or
B
permit.
That
would
allow
individuals,
a
very
small
number
of
rentals
per
year
and
I
think
that's
a
concept
that
we
can
take
and
explore
as
we
move
forward,
and
it
might
be
one
that
would
have
some
relevance
in
terms
of
what
our
total
numbers
would
be
going
forward.
A
But
that's
going
to
take
us
a
little
bit
of
time
to
take
and
do
I'm
really
concerned
about
a
explosion
in
permit
requests
from
people
who
just
simply
want
to
get
in
line
in
case.
They
may
want
to
use
it
at
some
point
in
time.
So
I
think
it
behooves
us,
given
the
exceptions
that
we
have
already
created
with
everyone
who
is
currently
in
line
to
identify
a
date
at
which
we're
not
going
to
accept
any
more
new
permits
until
we
decide
what
we
are
going
to
do
going
forward
when
it
comes
to
limitations.
A
Don't
want
to
repeat
that
off
the
top
of
my
head
at
this
point,
but
it's
as
they
recommended
I've
heard
less
consensus,
or
at
least
less
of
a
majority
around
whether
or
not
we
would
have
a
limitation
by
neighborhood
or
some
other
limitation.
What
I
might
propose
that
we
do
is
ask
staff
to
come
back
with
us
with
some
variations
off
of
that
theme,
when
we
are
reviewing
an
ordinance
so
that
we
can
make
a
decision
at
that
point.
What
we
want
and
and
do
not
want.
A
H
I
think
we
can't
make
a
decision
tonight
anyway,
but
let's
say
we
accepted,
which
was
unanimous,
I.
Think
a
2500
cap
which
we're
already
at
the
neighborhood
cap
is
going
to
have
no
impact
any
time
in
the
near
future.
But
you
know
gives
us
a
couple
months
to
look
at
I
I
think
we
need
something
about
density
in
areas
for
the
big
for
the
total
number
again,
which
I
want
us
to
discuss.
H
What
the
total
number
of
contracts
should
be
long
term
is
part
of
the
secondary
use
discussion,
but
I
do
think
it
creates
a
problem
when
we
don't
have
this
by
neighborhood
right.
So
you
know
you
may
have
30
percent
in
some
neighborhoods,
but
the
average
number
of
rentals
is
eight
in
that
neighborhood
right,
that's
a
different
issue
than
if
you
have
eight
percent
and
the
average
number
of
rentals
is
32.,
so
I
mean
I,
just
think.
There's
more
deep,
diving
to
get
to
that
and
I
do
think.
We
need
density
caps.
H
I,
just
don't
think
it's
going
to
have.
If
there's
a
total
cap,
if
there's
a
total
number
of
2500
for
the
main
permit
and
we're
going
to
be
at
3
000
we're
not
going
to
have
any
for
a
while
and
I
think
there
may
be
better
ways
in
the
neighborhood
I.
Definitely
don't
think
it
should
be
bigger
than
neighborhood
and
districts.
I
think
it
probably
might
want
to
be
smaller,
because
it's
a
clustering
that
really
right.
You
know
and
people
lit
right.
H
H
A
lot
of
those
people
wanted
lots
of
Regulation
but
didn't
want
to
ban
and
we
have
lots
of
Regulation,
but
if
we
don't
regulate
it
and
keep
it
running
well,
you
know
we
could
see
something
very
different
and
I,
don't
as
a
proponent,
vacation.
Rentals
I
want
to
see
us
continue
to
do
this
well,
and
it's
going
to
evolve
right
I
mean
we
said
we
come
back
in
a
year,
it's
five
years
later
and
there
was
good
reason
like
lawsuits.
M
You
mayor
I,
I,
don't
disagree
with
what
we're
talking
about
and
I.
Don't
disagree
with
what
the
working
group
is
doing.
I
just
am
asking
that
we
really
look
at
the
way
we
want
to
do
it.
So
whether
we
do
the
a
b
I
would
still
be
a
proponent
of
somebody
who
wants
to
invest
in
our
community,
live
here
part-time
and
be
able
to
monetize
their
their
property.
Part-Time
I'm
I
completely
understand
and
would
support
that
I
do
not
support
somebody
buying
homes
and
I
know.
M
This
is
difficult,
buying
homes
strictly
as
a
hotel,
and
they
have
no
interest
in
it
other
than
a
cash
cow
and
so
but
I
don't
know,
I.
Think
council,
member
cores
just
said
it.
If
we
set
it
at
25
and
we're
already
at
3
000,
we
will
never
lose
500
permits,
especially
when
some,
if
we
do
caps
on
neighborhoods,
we'll
never
lose
them
and
we'll
never
give
them
another
permit
that
and
the
business
will
die.
The
business
will
just
sustain
where
it's
at
and
that's
it
and
it
doesn't
let
free
market
operate.
M
I
I
believe
maybe
oversaturation
is
absolutely
an
issue.
I
would
just
really
say
we
need
to
delve
a
little
deeper
and
how
we
want
to
do
it.
Be
it
a
b
permits
the
number
of
permits,
anything
else
that
would
lower
that
impact
and
create
the
community
that
we
want,
where
you
know
the
neighbor,
that's
renting
it
out.
H
Of
course,
one
thing
that'll
be
helpful
as
we're
looking
at
this
right.
We
allow
llc's
as
long
as
we
get
their
papers.
Do
we
ever
look
at
that
LLC
again
to
see
if
the
people
change,
because
I
know
with
Prop
13
with
property
taxes,
commercial
property.
You
know
someone
buys
a
third
of
the
interest
and
then
another
third
and
it
never
gets
reassessed.
So
I
want
to
be
really
careful.
We
don't
end
up
yeah.
We.
H
H
Just
because
we
want
to
be
careful,
if
we're
you
know,
limiting
new
permits
that
we're
not
just
having
people
sell
interests
and
llc's
to
get
around
it
right,
I
mean
there's
always
ways:
people
try
and
get
around
it.
As
you
know
better
than
anyone,
and
so
I
think
you
know,
we
should
just
I'm
glad
we're
doing
that.
So
thanks.
A
C
H
Look
at
the
City
attorney
so
we're
following
the
brown
act,
but
once
you
have
notes,
can
we
each
get
sent
them
individually?
So
if
we
have
anything
we're
like
well,
two
of
us
mentioned
we
want
that
so
at
least
bring
it
back.
You
know
as
something
for
Council
in
the
public
to
weigh
in
on
or
something
can
we
get
feedback
once
you,
we
see
your
notes
of
what
our
discussion
was.
Can
we
give
direct
feedback
just
to
this
city
manager
individually
individually,.
D
A
H
I
think
it's
hard
to
do
it
tonight
without
public
input.
I
know
the
City
attorney
said
we
could
make
it
from
the
day.
The
agenda
went
out
retroactively
and
you
know
so
I
think
we
want
that
on
an
agenda
for
people
to
be
able
to
give
input
on
that,
and
we
know
they'll
be
very
strong
opinions.
What
I
might
recommend.
D
L
A
I
would
ask
that
moving
forward
since
we're
not
going
to
make
that
decision
this
evening
that
we
at
each
council
meeting
be
prepared
if
we
need
to
be
to
bring
this
issue
that
issue
of
when
to
stop
accepting
new
permits
back
to
us,
and
we
would
do
so
based
on
seeing
something
that
indicates
that
we're
seeing
a
unacceptable
number
of
new
permits
coming
in.
That
would
raise
serious
concern.
Council
member,
of
course,.
H
I
think
that
makes
sense,
but
I
think
we
already
have
things
on
our
application,
but
maybe
we
should
be
highlighting
given
City
attorney
said
right
in
30
days
from
now
we
could
say
retroactive
from
the
day.
The
staff
report
went
out
last
week
that
that's
on
so
people
who
are
applying
know
that
there's.
H
M
M
Okay
and
then
I
might
just
suggest,
since
they
weren't
part
of
the
working
group,
is
that
we
touch
base
with
the
real
estate
industry,
just
even
if
it's
one-on-one
or
meeting
with
their
Association
or
something
to
get
their
input.
I
don't
know
their
input
at
this
point
and
what
that
means
and
I
don't
know
the
ramifications
of
it,
so
it
might
be
good
just
as
ancillary
information
as
staff
does
its
work.
Okay,
thank
you.
C
A
All
right,
thank
you,
well
I
want
to
thank
everyone.
I
want
to
thank
the
audience
and
all
of
those
at
home.
This
has
been
a
very
intense
conversation.
We
know
it
would
be
we're
going
to
take
a
15-minute
break
and
then
and
add
a
couple
of
extra
minutes
too.
We
will
start
back
promptly
at
9,
00
PM,
and
we
will
begin
when
we
return
at
nine
with
making
the
phone
calls
for
non-public
agenda
items.
Thank
you.
A
A
G
Michael
Joseph
Pitkin
a
resident
of
Palm
Springs
one
year,
I
am
57
year
old,
Democrat
homosexual,
HIV,
positive
and
cancer,
multiracial
European,
theastic,
Satanist
male
unhoused
unemployed
in
that
year,
so
mode
it
B,
Palm,
Springs
history.
In
order
to
avoid
being
a
daily
nuisance
to
Palm
Springs
City
police
I
protested
your
lack
of
management
for
Healthy
Growth
in
affordable
housing
in
Palm
Springs
by
surviving
out
on
the
Palm
Springs
mountains.
G
Every
day,
I
walked
between
6
and
10
miles
a
day
after
a
year
that
is
over
2
000
miles,
I
have
walked
being
unhoused
and
protesting.
Your
lack
of
management
for
Healthy
Growth
in
affordable
housing
I
have,
according
to
rental
standards
in
Coachella
Valley
consumed
30
to
70
thousand
dollars
worth
of
air.
By
being
present
here
in
Palm
Springs,
the
unhoused
are
of
value
even
here
in
Palm
Springs
California
I
caution
that
you
do
not
become
a
Lake
Tahoe
and
find
yourselves
too
exclusive.
G
No
one
should
be
walking
2
000
miles
to
survive
instead
of
a
Trail
of
Tears.
I.
Call
this
my
happy
squirrel
Trail
every
day
the
baby
squirrels
would
fly
down
the
trail
to
be
around
me.
This
has
always
made
me
laugh,
so
it
is
written,
and
so
it
is
sealed
by
the
blood
of
my
heart,
hell,
White
Buffalo
Woman,.
B
I
F
I
F
Completely
get
it
and
I
understand
the
other
side
with
the
issue
with
the
unhoused.
It's
not
an
easy
issue
to
solve,
but
I'm
also
wondering:
where
is
the
line
between
every
no
and
I'm
not
offended
that
if
the
one
the
security
guard
that's
threw
me
out
is
even
like
thinking
on
part
of
the
own
house
that
doesn't
bother
me
it's
happening
before,
because
I
found
things.
I
F
With
it,
everyone
will
suffer
because
there
is
no
answer
now
briefly.
I
spent
time
in
L.A,
Santa,
Monica
library.
Last
time,
I
was
there.
We
moved
all
the
seats
and
you
can
only
stay
30
minutes
I'm
also
originally
from
New
Jersey.
There's
a
parking
on
New,
Jersey
Shore
that
I
know
very
well.
They
removed
all
the
trees
from
the
downtown
park
to
deal
with
the
unhoused,
so
they
wouldn't
be
around
now
again.
I
get
it
and
I
tell
everyone.
Come
spend
your
money
on,
spend
your
all.
My
friends
and
family
I
love
this
city.
F
The
listing
with
all
these
ordinances
off
and
it's
very
vague
about
obstructing
passage,
it
doesn't
say
anything
about
bicycles
with
other
saddlebags,
so
I'm
wondering
as
a
citizen
and
a
resident
to
pay
that
taxes
I
thought
you
go
just
to
to
enjoy
a
park
that
I'm
going
to
be
asked
to
leave
because
I
don't
sit
in
MO
because
I
have
saddlebags
and
it's
I,
don't
wear
a
cycle.
New
Jersey.
I
B
I
Thank
you
for
over
13
years,
I
found
a
condo
in
the
uncomplexed
and
plasma.
My
unit
is
about
one
yards
from
the
open
air
pool
caddy
of
the
municipal
hotel.
For
years,
the
city
council
has
allowed
the
Renaissance
exceptions
to
what
I
consider
your
thoughtfully
scripted
noise
ordinate.
These
waivers
seem
to
have
increased
in
both
numbers
of
events
and
during
these
events,
this
is
an
Affairs
I
asked
you
for
just
a
moment
to
imagine
a
circumstance
where
you're
at
a
red
light
an
incredibly
loud
car
full
of
next
to
you,
you're
your
car
vibrates.
I
The
base
permeates
every
space
of
your
car
and
you
can
hardly
wait
for
the
lights
change
now.
I
want
you
to
imagine
that
you're
stuck
in
your
car
for
15
hours,
day
after
day
with
the
base,
noise
and
vibration
unceasingly
driving
you
crazy.
That
counts
of
people
is
precisely
what
we
experience.
During
the
exceptions
given
to
the
Renaissance
Hotel
countless
times,
I've
had
to
see
cows
elsewhere,
with
noise
decibels
consistently
above
110,
it
isn't.
Fair.
I've
tried
every
remedy.
I
With
the
exception
of
this
one,
I've
spoken
to
the
manager
many
times
with
the
sound,
turned
down
to
a
rhythm
and
come
back
louder
than
ever,
I've
taken
my
screaming
grants
and
into
the
lobby,
because
he
couldn't
nap
which
seemed
to
help,
but
let's
face
it,
it's
ridiculous.
I
called
the
police
in
the
hotline
over
and
over
and
we're
friends
and
not
had
to
check
up
and
leave
my
own
property.
It
isn't
fair.
I
The
cumulative
effect
of
the
base
on
vibrations
is
intolerable
and
negatively
affecting
the
health
of
those
of
us
living
behind
the
open
patio.
Plaza
Villas
was
built
first
I'm,
not
asking
is
Renaissance
for
an
exception
and
simply
pleading
with
you
to
equitably
and
equally
enforce
your
own
noise
ordinance.
Never
at
any
time
should
the
decibels
exceeds.
Please
be
fair.
To
quote
your
ordinance.
It
shall
be
unlawful
for
any
person
to
make
continue
our
class
to
be
made
or
continued
within
the
limits
of
the
city
and
allowed
unnecessary.
I
Unusual
noise
causes
discomfort
or
annoyance
to
any
reasonable
person
of
normal
sensitiveness
residing
in
the
area.
I've
been
more
than
reasonable
for
13
years.
Well,
our
hotel
neighbors
have
not
please
suspend
any
waivers
and
deny
any
future
waivers.
They
have
abuse
the
privilege
and
proven
they
will
continue
to
do
so.
No
more
waivers
or
exceptions
is
thank
so
much.
I
B
I
I
I
Ironically,
we
hear
nothing
from
the
Hilton
across
the
street
which
hosts
the
same
event.
I've
reported
this
nuisance
several
times
to
the
police
department.
They
were
very
helpful
both
times
they
went
to
the
hotel
asked
for
the
music
to
be
turned
down
to
a
reasonable
volume,
but
as
soon
as
they
leave
the
DJ
says,
the
cops
are
gone
and
they
crank
it
right
back
up
golden
voice
does
denies
that
this
is
a
problem.
I
I
fail
to
understand
why
your
regulations
for
short-term
rentals
basically
allow
no
outside
music,
but
the
city
continues
to
allow
this
Extremely
Loud
Music
in
our
backyard
s
in
our
complex
are
forced
to
vacate.
During
these
events,
we
love
our
neighborhood
in
our
city
and
the
great
location,
but
this
is
a
nuisance.
Our
compact
Plex
was
built
prior
to
the
permit
being
issued.
Nrhoa
was
never
contacted
for.
B
F
F
F
What
God
did
not
prepare
me,
however,
for
the
pool
party
events
at
the
Renaissance
Hotel
I
was
shocked
at
the
volume
of
the
music
allowed
to
be
played.
I
kid
you
not
when
these
events
occur.
My
dishes
and
windows
rattled
all
day
long,
I
called
the
noise
compliance
department
and
the
police,
non-emergency
and
I'm
sorry
I
called
the
noise
compliance
department
and
the
police
non-emergency,
but
was
told
that
there
was
nothing
they
could
do
that
they
had
a
special
permit,
allowing
them
to
exceed
noise
when
that's
detailed
in
your
development
code.
F
But
now
in
recent
years
there
are
multiple
Splash,
House
weekends
and
other
events,
but
the
most
recent
event
held
August
20th
through
August
22nd.
The
noise
was
so
loud
that
I
once
again
had
dishes
and
windows
rattling.
I
stepped
outside
of
my
front
door
and
I
used
a
decibel
meter
that
I
personally
own
to
measure
the
noise.
The
levels
were
over
110
decibels
and
I'm,
not
exaggerating
110
decibels,
and
in
case
you
are
wondering
your
code
states
that
both
commercial
and
residential
zones
have
daytime
maximum
of
60
decibels
and
an
evening
maximum
of
55
decibels.
F
A
E
We
have
the
item
before
us
this
evening
to
discuss
the
parklet
program
and
also
some
issues
relative
to
outdoor
dining
and
let
me
go
ahead
and
begin
our
PowerPoint
right
now.
Just
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background
on
this,
we
last
September
adopted
design
guidelines
and
operational
standards
for
our
parklets
prior
to
that
we
did
not
have
design
guidelines
or
operational
standards
in
place,
and
so
that
was
a
big
step
for
us
with
the
parklet
program.
E
In
addition,
we
also
adopted
a
monthly
rental
fee
for
the
parklet
space
that
they
occupy
in
the
public
rights
of
way
and
those
fees
went
into
effect
on
January
the
1st
and
then
also
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
was.
We
did
allow
parklets
through
the
end
of
this
year
through
December
of
2022,
but
unless
we
extend
that
program,
all
of
the
parklets
would
need
to
be
removed
at
that
time,
and
so
that's
really
the
question
that
we
have
before
you.
E
We've
received
a
number
of
requests
from
parklet
owners
as
to
whether
or
not
this
use
will
be
continued.
The
parklet
owners
have
made
an
investment
into
their
parklet
space.
Some
would
like
to
and
continue
improving
that
space
by
adding
misters
and
other
things,
but
don't
want
to
go
through
the
expense
of
doing
that
unless
the
use
will
be
continued.
E
before
I
talk
about
outdoor
dining
I
just
want
to
impress
upon
members
of
the
public
and
also
city
council,
the
differences
between
parklets
and
outdoor
dining.
We
do
regulate
them
separately,
parklets,
we
regulate
those
under
the
resolution
that
was
adopted
last
year,
which
establishes
the
guidelines
and
the
operational
standards.
Outdoor
dining,
though,
has
been
in
existence,
and
it
is
in
our
zoning
code.
It's
been
in
existence
in
its
current
form,
at
least
since
the
early
1990s
and
probably
longer
than
that.
E
One
of
the
major
differences
is
that
parklets
do
not
require
the
operator
to
provide
additional
parking
spaces
for
those
seats
in
the
parklet
area.
However,
per
the
zoning
code,
we
do
require
additional
parking
spaces
for
outdoor
dining.
One
of
the
other
differences,
obviously,
is
we
do
charge
for
the
parklet
space,
a
monthly
rental
fee,
outdoor
dining
does
not,
and
so
those
are
the
distinctions
between
them.
E
So
really
the
two
questions
that
we
have
for
you
this
evening
is
number
one:
should
the
parklet
use
be
continued
through
2023
and
then,
secondly,
should
we
continue
to
satisfy
the
parking
requirements
through
the
Alternatives
that
we
have
in
the
zoning
code?
Or
should
we
look
at
amending
our
parking
requirements
for
outdoor
dining
to
perhaps
be
a
little
bit
friendlier
for
business
owners
who
want
to
pursue
that?
And
so
those
are
really
the
two
things
that
staff
is
seeking
direction
from
the
Council
on
this
evening.
E
In
those
two
areas,
one
of
the
questions
that
I
did
have
come
up
as
we
had
prepared.
The
staff
report
is
to
provide
pictures
of
what
the
parklets
look
like.
We
went
and
took
pictures
of
the
parklets
yesterday
afternoon,
and
so
we
do
have
images
of
those
and
just
working
from
the
north
to
the
South.
We
have
Trio
there
on
the
left,
tequila
there
at
the
upper
right
and
then
Las
consuelas,
the
original
location
at
the
lower
left.
E
We
have
El
Patron
shown
there
on
the
left.
We
have
the
parklet
in
the
upper
right
for
fame,
cigars
and
Wine
Bar
and
then
in
the
lower
right.
We
have
the
parklet
for
Revel
I'll
note
that
Revel
recently
was
able
to
finally
get
their
parklet
built
out,
as
they
had
originally
submitted
to
staff
and
was
approved
by
the
Architectural,
Review
Committee
and
then.
E
Finally,
the
last
three
I
have
black
book
on
Arenas,
which
is
shown
there
on
the
left,
Las
consuelas
Terraza,
which
is
shown
there
on
the
upper
right
and
then
finally
Fusion
five,
which
is
shown
there
on
the
lower
left.
And
so
those
are
the
parklets
that
we
currently
have
in
operation
and
with
that
Madam
mayor.
That
concludes
my
presentation
to
you
and
happy
to
take
your
questions.
K
E
Yes,
you're
correct:
we
do
have
K
rails
in
some
of
the
others
on
the
upside
in
the
direction
of
traffic,
but
they
are
largely
screened
through
the
plywood
that
they've
used
and
then
painted
or
some
other
tool
to
conceal
them.
Fusion
5
is
a
little
bit
unique
in
that
because
of
the
concerns
with
traffic
incidents
that
we've
had
that
at
that
intersection.
The
city
engineer
has
requested
that
we
keep
the
K
rails
there
on
the
outward
side
of
that
particular
parklet.
That's
not
a
condition
that
we
see
in
other
areas
where
we
have
parklets.
However,.
H
H
One
and
I
understand
they're
stuck
with
that
K
rail,
but
some
of
them
have
cables
that
you
wouldn't
know
they
are
carrots
right
and
so
I'd
like
to
see
that
if
we're
going
to
continue
these
for
a
year
or
maybe
permanently,
which
we
can
do,
questions
and
comments
together.
Mayor
on
this
one,
okay
with
that
which
I
would
support
by
the
way
and
I
think
they're
a
great
addition.
H
H
That
seems,
I
want
to
be
flexible
and
our
in-loop
parking
fee
hasn't
changed,
I
think
for
40
years
or
something
so
it
really.
But
it's
more
a
fairness
thing
than
the
amount
of
money
I
mean
some
of
these
businesses.
You
know:
we've
increased
their
square
footage,
probably
more
than
double
and
I
know.
There's
some
rent
on
that
I
do
get
some
complaints
just
to
put
it
out
there
on
all
the
cigar
smoke
on
Palm
Canyon,
especially
from
people
who
are
here
with
families
they
walk
by
there.
H
I
know
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
smoking.
It
looks
like
at
some
point,
but
that
on
the
street
is
something
I
just
want
to
raise
and
see
where
council
is
but
I
have
definitely
gotten
complaints,
including
from
family
with
kids,
who
have
been
as
we
walk
downtown
how
they
find
that
really
offensive,
and
not
okay.
So
so
just
some
initial
thoughts
but
I,
know
I'm
going
to
hear
a
lot
from
our
planner.
So.
M
E
M
So
my
concern
is
particularly
with
with
Hunters
is
one?
Is
it's
aesthetically
unpleasing?
It's
I
think
a
chain
link
fence.
It
is
causing
cars
to
park
in
residential
neighborhoods,
quite
a
quite
a
ways
away,
because
we
reduce
the
parking
we
haven't
charged
them
for
the
you
know
the
in
Luffy,
which
is
low
and
there's
negative
effects
that
are
coming
from
it,
not
only
aesthetically
and
it's
not
used
that
often
or
that
much
sand
fish,
on
the
other
hand,
has
designed
something
when
you
drive
by
part
of
the
the
thing.
M
But
again
you
know
I
think
they've
lost
parking,
which
means
people
are
parking
in
neighborhoods
and
I.
Think
they
they're.
You
know
there
needs
to
be
some
compensation
for
that
or
in
finding
parking
elsewhere,
but
I
think
the
same
thing
happens
here.
I
think
I
will
Echo
what
happened
or
what
council
member
core
said.
M
One
thing
is
the
in
Loop
parking
and
the
second
thing
is
I
think
when
we
approved
the
rents
that
we're
charging
it
was
substantially
below
the
market
because
we
wanted
them
to
succeed
during
covid
and
that
may
need
to
be
re-explored
because
they're
getting
a
lot
of
very
cheap
square
footage
to
make
money
on
right
and
they're.
Not
you
know
it's
at
a
different
competition
level
than
the
neighbor,
who
can't
maybe
do
one
or
doesn't
have
the
feasibility
and
I
think
that
needs
to
be
re-looked
at
I
completely
agree.
M
We
put
design
standards
in
the
execution
of
those
design
standards,
even
though
it's
gone
through
Arc.
It
to
me
is
very
questionable
in
the
image
that
we
want
to
project.
Several
of
them
are
great,
Workshop
kitchen
was
fantastic,
it
removed
it,
but
a
few
of
the
others
which
I
think
as
council.
Member
of
course
said
are
obvious
that
that's
not
quite
what
we're
looking
for
and
at
I'll
just
point
out
the
LA
Consuela
on
the
north
side
of
town.
M
You
know
walking
through
there
getting
the
misters
make
the
sidewalks
slippery
there's
very
little
walkway.
It's
just
not
conducive
to
really
a
pedestrian
environment
that
were
there
and
then
we
have
other
places
where
the
misters
are
just
way
too
much
and
the
sidewalks
are
slick
and
I
actually
almost
fell
twice.
So
it's
a
personal
thing
as
well:
I,
don't
know
I.
Think
Palm
Canyon
is
too
wide.
M
It's
just
too
wide,
but
I.
Think
parklets
are
not
the
solution.
I
think
an
overall
plan
that
maybe
includes
parklets
might
be
a
better
solution
than
what
we've
got
I.
Don't
think
people
invested
the
money
because
they
knew
that
we
would
discontinue
them
at
the.
It
was
very
clear
that
we
would
discontinue
at
the
end
of
the
year,
so
I
I,
believe
I.
Think
some
of
the
letters
we
got
about
outdoor
dining
is
absolutely
correct.
We
have
an
environment
to
do
that.
M
Most
of
the
time
I
think
the
regulations
we
put
in
place
to
make
sure
tables
and
chairs
were
out.
There
is
good,
but
it
didn't
always
happen
in
the
summer
and
we
really
don't
have
the
staff
to
enforce
it
or
how
do
we
enforce
it?
I,
don't
know
if
it's
a
fine
or
what
we
do
and
there's
not
a
hook
to
make.
It
really
happen
with
that.
So
you
know
I'm
less
inclined
to
let
them
continue
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
M
If
you
look
at
even
some
of
the
well-designed
ones,
they're
right
up
on
the
traffic
line
right
on
it
is,
and
we
had
asked
for
it
to
be
set
back
a
foot
or
two
from
the
edge
of
the
The
Carriage
Lane,
and
it's
it's.
You
know
it's
a
little
a
little
scary
in
some
of
those
things
and
I
I
think
the
K
rails
are
a
good
thing
and
I
think
they
should
be
disguised,
but
I
need
more
discussion
about
why
we
need
to
let
these
continue.
M
Some
of
them
I
think
on
the
side,
streets
and
I'll
just
use
black
book
as
an
example,
you
know
if
they
pay
the
right
fee
to
use
it,
they
pay.
The
in-loo
thing
you
know
ads
to
the
environment.
Hands
down
adds
to
the
environment,
but
they
leave
their
chairs
out.
They're
active
you
can
walk
by.
You
can
interact
with
people.
I
think
that
really
works.
I
I
actually
think,
except
for
being
a
little
close
to
the
The
Carriage
Lane
tequila
for
many
things,
works
I,
think
they're.
M
Misters
again,
you
know
the
wetness
and
people
cueing
to
get
in
to
the
restaurant.
They
cue
in
the
the
sidewalk
area,
which
makes
it
very
difficult
for
passageway.
It
could
be
okay,
you
can
rub
people
and
whatnot.
So
that's
not
a
bad
thing,
but
I
totally
agree
that
if
we
are
going
to
keep
them,
they
some
of
them
in
particular
for
me-
do
not
pass
muster
for
the
image
we
want
to
project
and
I.
Think
your
pictures
make
that
very
obvious
I
believe
in
activating
the
street.
M
I
just
think
it
needs
to
be
fair.
I
mean
I.
Think
if
people
who
have
been
to
the
city
of
West
Hollywood
that
I
worked
on
very
very
hard,
you
will
find
a
very
active
Street.
We
didn't
use
parklets,
we
widened
the
sidewalks
right
and
we
allowed
outdoor
areas
within
that
sidewalk,
where
they
paid
compensation
for
it
I
think
long
term.
M
You
know
it's
it's
just
a
race
down
the
street
and
maybe
we
need
a
median.
You
know
whatever
we
do,
I
think
it's
an
expensive
long-term
thing,
whether
we
keep
these
short
term
or
not
I,
think
we
need
more
discussion
but
I
wonder
about
people
who
want
them.
If
we're
going
to
allow
them
more
people
could
apply
and
let
you
know
I,
don't
know
we're
not
looking
at
just
these
eight
nine.
But
what
happens
when
people
start
applying
and
how
far
do
we
go
with
it?
A
Thank
you.
The
two
questions
that
I
understand
are
before
us:
whether
to
extend
the
parklet
use
for
calendar
year.
2023
I
am
very
supportive
of
continuing
for
the
next
year.
I
believe
that
our
initial
effort
at
parklets
was
was
one
that
we
struggled
a
bit
and
we
made
some
mistakes
and
we
had
way
too
many
parklets
and
we
had
them
be
ones
that
were
not
aesthetically,
pleasing
and
also
ones
that
we
had
businesses
imposing
upon
other
businesses.
A
That's
been
reformed.
We're
now
down
to
nine,
committed
restaurants
and
and
bar
facilities
that
are
using
these
parklets
I
really
enjoy
the
fact
that
each
one
looks
a
little
bit
different
and
so
I
think
this
is
something
that
is
a
positive
and
we
should
continue.
Are
there
potentially
down
the
roads?
Some
solutions
that
might
broaden
our
sidewalks
and
make
for
a
even
better
aesthetically,
appropriate
place.
A
A
That's
that's
one
of
those
holy
Grails
that
we
keep
working
at
and
some
we're
we're
not
there
yet
so
I
support
staff
I
want
to
thank
all
of
the
entrepreneurs
who
have
made
this
program.
Work
and
I
don't
want
to
cut
short
anyone
else.
But
if
there's,
if
there's
more
comments
great,
if
not
I'm
ready
to
make
a
motion,
councilman,
of
course,.
H
H
H
You
know
that
what
looks
orange-ish
in
that
picture,
there's
a
k-rail
behind
there
I
think
we
want
to
see
that
on
all
of
them,
if
we're
extending
it
a
year,
so
I
would
support
it
with
that
those
friendly
amendments-
okay,
you
know
because
some
of
them
are
gorgeous
and
some
of
them
are
not
so
I.
Think
with
that
and
the
other
question
is
with
all
these
folks:
do
we
have
indemnification
agreements?
So
if
someone
gets
slips
on
the
sidewalk
because
and
you're,
not
the
only
one
who
wants
you
know
has
that
issue.
H
A
I
personally
would
like
to
deal
with
the
cigar
and
the
smoke
issue
when
we're
addressing
that
in
a
broader
context,
rather
than
singling
them
out,
but
I'll
I'll
give
away
that
I
am
not
a
fan
of
cigar
smoke
and
I
know.
They're
are
many
folks
who,
who
love
the
those
and
I
hope
they
find
a
very,
very
private
place
to
enjoy
that
pleasure.
A
H
M
Oh
doc,
thank
you
I'm
totally
in
agreement
with
as
long
as
we
make
it
equal
I
think
that's
really
important,
financially
equal
I,
don't
know.
If
we
can,
you
know
and
I.
It
still
leaves
me
the
question
of
what,
if
other
people
want
to
come
in,
they
can
still
do
that.
I
assume
that's
still
available
to
go
through
the
process.
I
would
just
ask
that
we
tighten
up
that
design
process
a
little
bit.
M
H
Quick
thing
on
the
new
ones:
they
have
to
be
ready
to
build
them
like
we're
in
September,
and
some
of
the
ones
are
just
really
I
mean
looked
awful
for
eight
nine
months,
they're
finally
there,
but
for
new
ones,
I
think
they
have
to
do
it
under
the
new
standards.
So
it's
a
little
different,
but
I
just
want
to
point
that
out.
I
would
like
those
when
they're
ready
to
go
they're
going.
They
have
to
meet
the
desiigner
just
right
off
the
bat
when
they
start
any
new
one.
E
Yes,
we
are
all
right.
One
of
the
things
I
might
also
note.
Madame
mayor
is
because
the
resolution
we
adopted
last
year
for
the
parklet
program
expires
at
the
end
of
2022,
will
bring
back
a
new
resolution
to
you
on
your
consent
agenda,
with
some
minor
modifications
based
on
the
Amendments
that
you've
made
this
evening
in
your
discussion.
Thank.
A
B
A
D
Madam
mayor
members
of
the
city
council
good
evening.
This
item
is
a
follow-up
item
to
direction
that
was
given
to
this
staff
by
the
city
council
at
the
July
14
2022
and
September
1st
2022
regular
City
Council
meetings
in
2018.
The
city
council
created
a
California
Voting
Rights
Act
working
group.
One
of
the
areas
that
the
working
group
was
tasked
with
was
to
identify
ways
to
reduce
barriers
to
running
for
city
council
and
working
on
city
council.
D
Some
of
those
items
included
increasing
the
salary
for
City
Council
Members
to
better
reflect
workload
and
enable
residents
to
reduce
their
Reliance
on
other
full-time
or
part-time
work,
while
serving
on
City
Council.
Another
item
was
to
provide
adequate
Staffing
to
alleviate
some
of
the
burden
on
City
Council
Members
time,
such
as
personal
assistance
or
shared
legislative
analysts.
D
D
That
would
amount
to
a
salary
of
49
924
dollars
per
year
for
the
person
serving
as
mayor
or
four
thousand
one
hundred
sixty
dollars
per
month.
In
addition
to
the
base
salary,
there
was
some
discussion
at
the
September
meeting
about
a
possible
future
CPI
increase
what
is
before
the
city
council
and
the
draft
ordinance.
There
is
an
optional
new
Municipal
Code
section
that,
if
adopted,
would
provide
for
a
process
for
annual
adjustment
of
these
dollar
amounts
unless
the
city
council
provides
otherwise.
D
That
would
result
in
a
requirement
of
the
city
council
adopting
a
new
ordinance.
Every
time
the
city
council
wants
to
update
the
council
compensation.
The
drawback
to
that
is
an
ordinance
takes
some
time
and
there
it
sometimes
is
difficult
to
bring
forward
an
ordinance
increase
in
Council
compensation.
But
that
is
one
option.
D
Another
option
would
be
to
adopt
the
adjustment
section
but
expressly
provide
that
the
adjustment
would
need
to
be
applied
based
on
an
affirmative
vote
of
the
city
council,
so
it
could
basically
provide
for
an
annual
or
every
other
year
consideration
by
the
city
council,
but
without
having
to
adopt
an
actual
ordinance.
It
would
simply
require
a
majority
vote
of
the
city
council
at
some
specified
time
and
then
finally,
another
option
would
be
to
have
that
same
requirement
for
an
affirm
requiring
an
affirmative
Council
vote,
maybe
every
two
years
or
every
three
years.
D
So
there
are
several
different
options
that
are
before
the
count
insulin
available
to
the
council
to
deal
with
that.
One
of
the
questions
that
was
raised
at
the
September
meeting
was
whether
a
California
government
code
section,
which
is
36516
that
section
prohibits
automatic
future
salary
increases.
D
Finally,
with
regard
to
council
compensation,
the
city
Charter
allows
for
updated
compensation
to
apply
to
all
council
members
following
the
municipal
election,
which
we
have
coming
up
here
in
November.
However,
as
discussed
at
the
September
first
meeting,
the
proposed
ordinance
has
been
drafted
so
that
it
only
applies.
The
proposed
increases
to
any
council
member
who
starts
a
new
term
of
office
after
the
November
2022
municipal
election,
either
by
election
or
by
appointment.
D
So
that's
the
the
proposed
salary
adjustment
ordinance
and
that
would
because
it's
an
ordinance
would
require
an
introduction
either
tonight
at
some
other
or
some
other
time,
as
well
as
a
second
reading
in
the
future.
With
regard
to
the
automobile
side
Bend,
we
have
a
resolution
proposed
for
you
that
is
based
on
the
direction
at
the
September
1st
city
council
meeting.
D
So
what
the
the
resolution
in
front
of
you
proposes
is
is
a
stipend
about
of
400
per
month,
and
that
equates
to
mileage
reimbursement
for
approximately
640
miles
per
month.
At
the
current
IRS
rates,
the
proposed
stipend
is
Set
in
the
amount
of
400
for
each
month
or
pro
at
a
portion
of
each
month,
and
so
those
are
the
two
actions
before
you.
I
would
point
out
that
this
action
before
you
tonight
is
consistent
with
the
City
council's
previously
adopted
strategic
priority
under
good
governance.
D
H
C
H
C
H
The
last
question,
which
may
be
a
little
bit
of
a
statement
because
I
know
the
answer,
but
in
doing
is
there
any
other
position,
not
necessary
person?
That
said
no
increase
in
salary
for
15
years?
Do
we
have
any
position
that
has
zero
increase
in
salary
over
15
years?
Is
that
possible
unlikely
right.
H
So
this
is
not
like
catching
everyone
up
to
what
would
have
happened
if
we
were
in
any
other
position
on
staff
as
far
as
comments
I
do
support
that
increase
I,
don't
believe
we
should
have
it
automatic,
but
I
think
we
could
do
it.
How
do
we
do
director
of
compensation
now
right
as
part
of
the
budget
process?
I
think
it's
I
think
that's
how
it
should
be,
and
it
should
be
an
affirmative
vote.
H
I.
Don't
I
think
this
should
apply
to
everyone
after
an
election
respectfully
there,
and
if
someone
wants
to
waive
compensation,
they
can
but
I
think
for
some
people.
You
know
and
it's
a
big
difference
in
their
lives
and
I
and
I.
Think
you
and
others
have
deserved
that,
but
I
appreciate
people
should
have
the
right
to
make
that
decision
for
themselves.
H
I
think
some
people
suggested
that
the
last
meeting,
if
people
feel
they
don't
need
it,
they
could
wave
it
or
donate
it
to
their
favorite,
non-profit
or
whatever
they
like
to
do.
As
far
as
the
car
allowance
625
miles
is
just
a
lot
right
and
I'm
not
opposed
to
some
car
allowance,
because
there
is
wear
and
tear,
and
you
know,
I've
worked
in
the
federal
government.
I've
worked
in
two
different
city
governments,
County
government,
non-profits
law
firms,
I
hadn't
tracked
my
miles
everywhere.
It
is
a
pain.
H
Don't
get
me
wrong,
but
I
think
we
need
to
and
it's
you
know
we
could
have
a
staff
person
do
it,
but
there
are
other
things
they
could
do.
But
that
seems
like
a
lot
of
miles,
especially
when
I
think
some
of
the
agencies
we
report
to
you
get
get
reimbursed
for
from
them
right,
especially
if
you're
going
all
the
way
to
Riverside,
so
I
think
I,
don't
know
what
the
right
number
is,
but
that
seems
like
a
lot
of
miles.
H
H
So
I,
don't
know
what
that
right
number
is,
but
I
just
want
to
throw
out.
I
thought
I
appreciate
that,
maybe
what
we
do
for
others,
but
it
just
seems
like
a
lot
of
miles
and
of
course,
I
can
get
adjusted
if
we
all
track
them
for
a
couple
months.
Not
just
another
thought
you
know
start
with
something
and
then
if
each
council
member
tracked
it
for
three
months,
we'd
have
a
better
sense,
but
it's
never
going
to
happen.
It's
never
going
to
happen
right,
okay,
so
anyway,
just
my
initial
thoughts.
Thank
you.
K
Thank
you,
yeah
good
luck,
getting
anyone
to
track
for
three
months.
I
know
my
total
miles,
driven
not
for
just
Council
work.
I
think
this
is
great
and
and
I
support.
It
I
think
it's.
It's
definitely
needed
like
you
said
it's
been
15
years
and
there
hasn't
been
any
increase,
and
this
this
only
makes
sense.
K
I
agree
as
well
with
I'm
just
going
to
call
you
Jeff
course:
council
member
course
regarding
it
taking
place
during
any
election.
I
think
that
makes
sense,
and
not
just
for
for
you
mayor,
but
anyone
in
the
future,
because
there
will
be
those
small
increases
that
that
come,
and
so
that
makes
sense
to
me
in
terms
of
the
car
allowance.
It
does
seem
like
a
lot
of
miles.
I.
M
M
So
under
the
proposal
a
council
member
would
get
seventy
thousand
four
hundred
dollars
and
there's
only
there's
only
six
other
cities
making
that
so
I
also
had
a
chance
to
look
at
in
the
Coachella
Valley
and
it's
very
interesting.
The
Coachella
Valley
is
like
Cathedral
City
with
all
the
benefits
and
everything
is
thirteen
thousand
and
they're
regulated
by
the
state
coachella's.
Twenty
thousand.
This
is
with
Benefits
Desert
Hot
Springs
29..
M
These
are
you
know
the
one.
That's
there's
two
that
are
close,
Indian
Wells,
believe
it
or
not
is
at
56
000,
which
is
way
up
there
compared
to
the
most
of
them
are
twelve
thousand
twenty
five
thousand
fourteen
thousand
they're
way
low
and
I
can
tell
you
that
there's
one
other
one
that
is
high
and
that's
Palm
Desert
is
high
at
58
000..
So
you
know,
even
in
the
Coachella
Valley,
which
is
high
compared
to
the
state
I.
M
Don't
know
why
it's
high
compared
to
the
state
that
we
are
still
substantially
higher
and
I
don't
know
is
that
sets
sends
a
good
message
to
our
citizens
and
so
I
I
think
I,
don't
know
you
know
I
understand
we
did
this
cost
of
living
increase,
but
I
really
don't
want
to
be
out
of
Step
with
the
rest
of
the
state.
That's
all
I
understand
the
job
in
Palm.
Springs
is
demanding
I
absolutely
get
that
I
spent
whole
days
on
this.
This
being
on
the
council.
M
M
K
Thank
you,
I
I
just
want
to
address
it
briefly
and
I
know:
we've
had
this
discussion
before,
but
I.
There
really
is
a
larger
issue
here,
with
how
much
we
pay
people
who
do
any
public
service
job
and
not
just
within
City
councils
or
governments,
but
also
with
non-profits
and
I,
think
we
have
to
be
able
to
acknow.
We
can
acknowledge
that
and
say
yes,
we
are.
We
are
different
and
we're
setting
a
standard
for
what
others
should
do
as
well.
K
It's
a
demanding
job,
it's
one
that
requires
extreme
flexibility
and
a
lot
of
people
can't
do
a
full-time
job
and
this
job,
so
it
makes
sense
to
offer
compensation
and
then,
in
terms
of
the
benefits
that
are
added,
that's
with
health
care
and,
let's
be
real.
Everyone
deserves
health
care
and
that's
something
that
I
think
most
of
us
are
fighting
for,
just
for
people
to
have
health
care,
regardless
of
whether
or
not
they
have
a
job.
So
to
me,
this
isn't
unrealistic.
K
It's
it's
not!
It's
not
a
stretch,
we're
really
asking
for
something
basic
and
I,
and
I
think
that
the
fact
that
we
don't
have
a
huge
public
outcry
on
this
shows
that
our
residents
also
understand
that
and
appreciate
that
there
is
a
need
for
an
increase
here.
So
I
think
it's
a
good
step
for
us
to
take,
and
it's
also
it
is
also
a
statement
that
says
we
do
need
to
do
this
across
the
board.
With
our
our
service,
jobs.
A
It's
been
said
and
said
well,
and
we've
debated
this
for
a
very
long
period
of
time.
What
we're
taking
is
a
really
modest
step.
I
support
the
comments
of
council
member
Coors
that
when
it
comes
to
any
type
of
adjustment
to
CPI,
that
should
be
in
a
vote
that
is
taken
when
it
comes
to
the
car
allowance.
A
Depending
on
where
one
is
going
and
what
agency
you're
serving
and
I'll
use
a
personal
example,
I
sit
on
the
Riverside
County
Transportation
Commission
we
meet
between
once
and
twice
a
month
in
Riverside,
it's
110
mile
round
trip,
but
I
am
reimbursed
mileage
from
Riverside
County
Transportation
Commission.
It
would
be
absolutely
inappropriate
to
receive
Transportation
allowance
from
one
agency
and
then
take
sums
from
another
for
essentially
the
same
travel.
Now,
not
every
board
commission
and
the
like
that
we
participate
in
provides
those
kinds
of
reimbursements.
A
You
can
put
forms
together
that
make
it
extremely
easy
to
provide
the
mileage
and
then
just
simply
get
reimbursed
each
month
according
to
how
many
miles
one's
actually
driven.
So
I
can
go
either
way
on
that,
if
we're
as
to
how
we
move
forward
and
so
and
I
appreciate,
and
concur
with
the
comments
of
Council,
the
council,
member
and
mayor
Pro
tem
when
it
comes
to,
let's
make
this
applicable
to
everyone
after
the
election
in
November.
A
A
M
I
won't
make
a
motion
because
I
think
I'm
the
outlier
here,
but
I
just
and
that's
fine,
you
know
I
I
I,
don't
mind
being
an
outlier
and
I
totally
get
that
this
is
a
lot
of
work,
but
just
to
say
where
I
got
the
numbers.
So
the
numbers
come
from
the
LA
Times
and
they
did
an
assessment
across
and
they
did
the
assessment
with
health
benefits
and
all
of
that,
so
they
did
the
base
salary.
Actually
our
base
salaries,
double
what
anything
in
the
valley
is,
but
really
the
the
compensation
is.
M
A
M
So
if
that's,
if
that's
true,
then
then
I
would
say
we
are
closer
than
that.
Sixty
thousand
dollars
for
sixty
thousand
four
hundred.
If
we
don't
lower
the
mileage
that
would
put
us
closer
to
being
equal
with
two
high.
You
know
they're
very
high
in
the
Coachella
Valley
and
it's
fine,
but
it
would
put
us
closer
to
that.
If
you
don't
want
to
include
that
ten
thousand
B
right.
H
M
H
Not
but
there's
a
stipend
or
you
get
the
mileage
either
way
right,
you're
reimbursed
so
I
would
take
that
48
I
would
take
that
out
as
well.
But
you
know
look
ultimately
I
really
appreciate
mayor
Pro,
tems
comments,
I
think
that
I
mean
I
can't
imagine
when
I
was
in
your
position
at
a
lot
trying
to
like
be
a
partner
in
my
own
Law
Firm,
how
many
I
mean
and
I'm
not
complaining,
right,
I
love
what
I'm
doing
and
I'm
a
position.
I
can
do
it,
which
is
different,
but
I,
don't
think!
H
H
But
it
was
my
other
job
because
I
couldn't
do
this
fairly
and
that
and
not
work
80
90
hours
a
week
which
I
didn't
want
to
do
anymore
at
this
point
in
my
life,
so
I
think
this
is
reasonable.
I'm
happy
to
make
the
motion,
if
that
we
do
the
salary,
as
set
forth
in
the
staff
report,
that
any
increase
would
be
an
affirmative
vote
and
we
will
discuss
that
in
the
budget
and
not
necessarily
CPI.
It
may
I,
wouldn't
say
any
set
amount
right.
H
It's
just,
let's
see
what
we're
doing
for
other
directors.
Let's
look
at
you
know.
That
might
be
a
good
example
for
us
to
see.
So
there
are
lots
of
ways
we
can
look
at
it
and
the
council
at
the
time
in
that
budget,
which
Dennis
and
I
will
miss,
and
we
won't
probably
we
may
come
and
make
public
comment
to
give
you
grief,
but
you
know
other
than
that.
H
I
think
it
should
be
done
there
and
I
think
a
car
allowance
of
200
a
month
really
for
I
think
it's
administrative
purposes
really,
because
it's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
Staff
time
when
I've
had
an
assistant
who's
tried
to
follow
my
calendar
and
figure
out
my
mileage
I
mean
we
have
better
more
important
things
and
I
think
it
will
cost
us
more
to
do
that.
So
that
would
be
my
my
motion.
If
that
all
is
understandable,.
A
Not
to
belay
bridges
for
the
point
of
the
public
record
I,
don't
know
what
the
cost
of
The
Fringe
of
benefits
are,
but
as
someone
who
previously
had
very
good
health
care
through
my
retirement
from
the
state
of
California
I,
do
not
take
any
of
the
health
care
benefits
in
accord
with
the
rules
that
provide.
If
you
don't,
you
get
a
a
small
amount
of
money
in
return
for
not
taking
them.
It's
not
fourteen
thousand
dollars
that
that
I
get
back
I.
D
H
H
A
All
right,
thank
you.
We
have
made
it
through
all
of
our
prepared
to
send
items
and
now
we're
to
the
city,
council
and
city
manager,
comments
reports
and
agenda
development
and
I
will
try
to
remember
that
agenda
development's
part
of
this
this
time.
So
do
we
have
any
well
first,
let's
start
do
we
have
any
comments
not
related
to
the
agenda
from
Stafford
City
management.
K
So
I
I
know
we
just
talked
about
discussing
cigars
and
other
things
in
a
smoking
ordinance,
but
I
thought
that
at
our
strategic
planning
that
we
were
not
going
to
handle
that
this
year,
but
is
that
a
change
I
mean?
If
there's,
if
there's
support
for
it,
then
that's
fine
I,
just
my
memory
was
different.
C
So
we
do
have
it
was
on
our
second
page,
so
we
had
our
lists.
Council
came
up
with
priorities,
and
then
there
was
a
second
page
that
we
created
for
things
that
weren't
going
to
be
handled
immediately
are
weren't
our
council's
top
priorities,
but
we
didn't
want
to
lose
sight
of
them,
so
they
kind
of
went
to
that
second
page
list
of
items
that
we
would
look
at
working
on
as
we
could
get
to
them.
We
did
have
a
request
to
bring
It
Forward.
C
K
H
Just
heard
history
because
I
think
before
you're
on
Council
there's
requests
that
sustainability,
who
does
Health
stuff
look
at
it
I
think
they
had
a
recommendation
of
an
ordinance
in
the
Human
Rights
Commission
had
their
recommendation,
but
we
have
not
seen
it
at
all.
So
I
think
that's
where
it
was
I.
Think
yes,.
E
That's
correct:
it
has
been
through
the
Human
Rights
Commission,
and
it's
also
been
before
the
sustainability
commission.
Even
though
it's
not
identified
as
one
of
your
top
priorities,
it
has
been
through
both
of
those
commissions
and
I'll.
Tell
you
they've
done
most
of
the
work
on
it.
Staff
has
not.
Okay,
all.
H
I
know
there
was
a
lot
of
Outreach
right
to
businesses
and
residents
1ps
back
three
or
four
years
ago.
When
you
know
this
was
discussed,
we
might
want
to
at
least
get
it
back
to
1ps
I
mean
I
meet
with
the
Arenas
group
next
month.
Give
them
a
little
heads
up
and
I
think
we're
going
to
probably
need
to
give
more
than
60
minutes.
When
you
add
public
comment
on
both
sides,
I
think
there'll
be
a
lot
of
it.
H
So
whether
we
can
do
that
on
the
27th
or
you
know
one
of
the
November
meetings
when
we've
had
a
little
more
time
for
that
Outreach
I
think
is
worth
staff
looking
at
just
because
I
think.
If
we
do,
the
Outreach
happens
next
month.
I
think
we'll
have
a
much
you
know.
People
won't
feel
like
weren't
up
at
10,
something
at
night
watching
us
sort
of
where'd.
H
This
come
from
after
all
these
years,
so
I
think
a
little
more
Outreach
and
maybe
in
November
when
we
have
more
time
because,
let's
be
realistic
of
any
vacation
rental
ordinance,
if
we're
going
to
discuss
it
or
what
we're
going
to
do
with
perimets.
Coming
in
since
the
agenda
went
out,
that's
going
to
be
another
hour
plus
of
public
comment,
so
I
just
wanted
to
be
realistic
on
timing.
H
That's
all
yeah
and
at
some
point
it'd
be
great
to
see
the
list
of
things
that
we
said
we
want
to
get
to
when
we
can
just
so,
we
can
give
you
some
input
on
how
we
want
to
prioritize.
Those
I
think
could
be
helpful,
maybe
at
the
next
meeting,
if
you
have
it
handy
that
could
be
easy.
My
I
two
comments
written
down
before
the
meeting
one
was
on
the
issue
of
the
Renaissance.
H
Since
it's
in
my
district
and
I've
had
a
lot
of
emails
back
and
forth,
and
former
city
manager,
we
discussed
it
and
looked
into
it
and
you
talked
to
staff
and
there's
definitely
a.
There
was
a
disconnect
with
the
how
the
special
permits
were
issued.
That
didn't
really
have
the
rules
we
would
normally
have.
H
I
did
drive
by
because
I
heard
from
people
then,
and
it
was
really
loud
and
I-
think
the
comment
I've
been
at
the
Hilton
during
I,
don't
Coachella
weekend
or
something
and
you're
in
the
park
you're
in
their
parking
lot,
and
you
don't
hear
it
and
the
Renaissance.
However,
these
places
are
set
up.
It
really
is
different,
but
I
was
told
it
was
going
to
be
addressed
for
future
events.
H
So
I
do
want
to
I
wanted
to
share
that
with
the
public
that
that
is
being
addressed
to
make
sure
you
knew
that,
because
now
that
you're
in
this
role
that
we
just
need
to
and
golden
voice
I
mean
look
I,
don't
we
had
I
didn't
get
one
complaint
about
the
air
museum
this
year.
I
know
it's
in
your
District.
H
The
other
item
was
a
question
for
staff,
which
I'm
getting
questions
of
when
staff
is
thinking,
grants
and
sponsorships
will
be
decided
at
the
staff
level,
which
I
think
is
the
only
level
anymore
just
what
the
timing
was,
because
people
were
asking
that
they
didn't
know
and
I,
don't
know
if
you
know,
but
if
that
would
be
good
to
get
out
to
people
who
applied
I.
Think.
H
M
C
M
C
C
C
On
the
internet
well-
and
that's
actually
the
one
that
we
wanted
to
have
a
discussion
and
see
if
there
is
consensus
to
bring
that
forward.
But
it
did
seem
to
align
with
some
of
the
priorities
of
council
and
we
met
with
them
and
they
wanted
to
bring
that
forward
to
council.
So
if,
if
their
support
we'll
we'll
keep
that
on
the
future
agenda
and
council
member
Garner,
would
you
like
to.
K
Yeah
I
can
I
can
just
offer
a
little
more
context
when
we
were
doing
our
budget
discussions.
This
is
one
of
the
things
I
talked
about
with
the
Workforce
Development,
because
part
of
their
plan
is
Workforce,
Development
and
I
mentioned
that
there
would
need
additional
funds
to
match
their
Grant
and
that
they
had
an
interest
in
coming
back
and
at
that
at
that
time
there
was
interest
from
Council
to
hear
from
them.
But
if
we
need
to
to
make
that
clear
tonight,
that's
fine.
K
M
All
right,
I
just
had
that
question
and
the
navigation
Center
I
completely
get
vacation
rental,
probably
not
sb9,
that'll
be
interesting
and
then
I
know
we
so
the
turf
conversion
again
did
we
get
you
know.
I
know,
there's
been
discussion
about
it.
We
have
one
I
think,
that's
probably
for
the
the
rumbling
has
been
for
the
city
to
kick
in
some
extra
money
versus
what
what
the
water
company
does.
H
Was
I
think
there
was
at
least
to
bring
it
back,
but
so
on
both
of
these,
the
we
are
one
United
funding
and
the
turf
conversion
rebates
would
I
think
those
are
from
things
that
we've
already
budgeted
right.
Like
we
budgeted
money
for
environmental
stuff,
we
budgeted
money
for
Workforce
Development
as
opposed
to
new
funding
right,
or
is
that
that
the
plan.
H
We
set
aside
already
okay
I
just
want
to
know
I
mean.
Obviously
we
could
change
our
mind
on
that.
But
I
just
want
to
know
if
that
was
the
plan
on
both
of
those
okay
thank
you
and
where
to
dress
code
for
airport
and
taxi
and
ride
shares
come
from
I
I
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
saying
it's
not
needed,
I'm,
just
sort
of
curious
I.
Remember
it
coming
up,
but
I,
remember
yeah!
So
that's
when
you
need
our
input.
If
we
want
that
Yeah.
C
H
A
H
A
K
C
I
I
did
look
into
that
and
they
explained
that
actually
right
now,
Uber
and
Lyft
pick
up
on
the
south
end
of
the
airport,
but
if
somebody
has
a
lot
of
luggage
or
some
accommodation
that
is
needed,
they
know
to
call
they
have
been
notified
and
told
that
they
can
contact
the
airport
and
they
are
allowed
to
pick
up
over
by
baggage.
Ultimately,
everybody
will
be
moved
so
that
all
pickups
are
by
baggage.
The
plan
is
to
migrate
to
that
over
the
next
year.
C
C
We
just
have
I
did
want
to
again
note
that
we
are
rescheduling
the
next
regular
meeting
to
October
17th.
So
thank
you
for
that
accommodation
and
then
so.
Our
next
two
meetings
look
very
full
and
then
we
have
a
study
session
on
November
1st.
We
have
a
couple
other
items
coming
up
and
I
know
this
will
get
fleshed
out
further
as
we
go
along
and
continue
items
forward,
but
the
child
care
Zone
text,
Amendment
public
building
code
update
first
reading,
General
plan
housing
element.
C
M
Yeah
I
can
do
that.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
say
that
the
housing
element
might
take
more
than
60
minutes.
I
just
have
a
feeling
and
we've
gone
through
it
before
I
I
would
think
there
would
be
especially
what
we
heard
tonight.
There
might
be
a
lot
of
discussion
on
it.
I
might
give
a
little
more
time
to
that
just
in
case
and
we'll
go
with
that.
Yeah
I
want
a
no
big
comments.
M
They
talked
about
economic
development
that
and
whatnot,
and-
and
she
talked
about
all
that
as
well,
but
it
was-
and
she
was
well
received-
which
was
great
with
that
she
even
asked
for
more
Applause
in
the
whole
process.
So
I
want
to
thank
the
mayor
for
that
and
let
everyone
know
that
she
did
that
I.
Also
want
to
let
I
I
really
hope.
M
You
know
this
election
with
myself,
choosing
that
to
run
and
council
member
Coors
choosing
not
to
run,
and
the
potential
of
councilmember
holstead
being
elected
to
the
assembly
will
change
the
face
of
this
city
council
dramatically
and
there
are
people
running
with
experience
and
some
with
none,
but
that
that's
not
an
issue.
I
just
hope.
People
pay
attention
and
really
get
involved
and
I
think
two
things
this
weekend
coming
up.
M
That
I
would
suggest
that
you
get
involved
in
in
case
you're
not
invited
to
one
of
their
parties
where
they
introduce
themselves.
Is
the
candidate
Forum?
There
is
going
to
be
one
on
Saturday
from
one
to
four
at
the
Camelot
theater
and
one
on
Sunday
from
one
to
four
at
the
Camelot
theater
and
just
and
each
one
will
do
different
districts.
M
M
H
Sure
I
didn't
get
to
hear
you,
but
I
heard
your
comments
were
great
from
several
people
and
I
know
you
mentioned
desert
community
energy,
and
so
we
did
have
our
monthly
meeting.
Yesterday
we
entered
a
new
15
year
contract
for
geothermal
project
that
is
100
Korean,
100,
renewable
and
no
emissions,
and
even
creating
the
energy
that
will
save
I
think
about
two
million
dollars
for
the
rate
payers
as
well.
H
are
on
their
green
rate,
which,
by
the
way
for
four
months
of
Staff,
trying
to
try
and
sign
up.
No
one
can
sign
up
for,
but
it
exists
on
paper
which
we
have
to
send
people.
So
it
was
interesting,
so
they
have
a
hundred
times
more
total
customers,
but
DC
has
10
times
as
many
customers
on
100
green
carbon,
free
Power,
and
so
for
those
who,
don't
think
local
government.
H
H
A
I
had
the
opportunity,
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
to
meet
with
former
Los
Angeles
mayor
Antonio
villarregosa
in
a
one-on-one
meeting
for
30
minutes
talking
about
infrastructure
and
the
two
issues
that
he
and
I
discussed
was
bringing
rail
service
to
the
Coachella
Valley.
That's
been
followed
up
by
a
number
of
other
meetings
that
individuals
have
had.
A
The
second
issue
that
I
discussed
with
him
is
the
importance
of
bridging,
specifically
Indian
Canyons,
so
that
when
we
have
rain
events,
when
we
have
wind
events
that
we
are
able
to
to
have
traffic
move,
the
number
that
I've
repeated
over
and
over
again
for
individuals
is
that
if
you
live
north
of
the
freeway
in
Desert,
Hot,
Springs,
Sky,
Valley,
and
so
many
of
those
places
when
Indian,
Canyon
and
Gene
Autry
are
closed
and
they
typically
are
both
closed
together.
An
ambulance
Drive
goes
from
10
to
15
minutes
to
45
minutes.
A
All
of
us
can
imagine
what
it
is
to
have
that
extra
30
minutes
to
get
to
the
hospital.
So
this
is
critically
important.
Cvag
has
done
an
incredible
job
in
putting
together
some
Alternatives
that
for
tens
of
millions
of
dollars,
instead
of
the
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars,
can
put
together
prefabricated
bridging
to
connect
in
the
most
vital
parts
and
I
would
like
to
as
soon
as
we
can
have
Tom
clerk
from
cvag
come
in
and
speak
to
our
city
council.
A
Regarding
those
proposals
that
are
now
starting
to
move
forward,
we've
authorized
it
cvag
executive,
the
design
contract,
but
we
have
not
found
the
fun
funding
yet
for
the
major
project,
and
that
was
the
the
point
of
working
with
mayor
via
ragosa
and
the
infrastructure
project
that
has
been
passed
by
Congress
had
an
opportunity
to
do
a
ribbon.
Cutting
yesterday
at
the
Palm
Springs
Art
Museum
of
the
zebs
eev
zero
emission
vehicle
charging
stations.
A
This
is
a
demonstration
project
for
them,
but
what
they
are
planning
is
a
much
larger
rollout
of
charging
station
and
of
fleet
vehicles
that
will
be
able
to
go
around
and
provide
charging.
They
are
specifically
locating
in
Palm
Springs
because
of
dce
and
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
assure
individuals
who
are
using
their
service.
That
not
only
are
you
driving
an
electric
vehicle,
you
will
be
getting
charged
by
a
organization
that
is
buying
into
our
100
renewable
options,
so
we
have
the
opportunity
really
to
move
forward.
A
Picking
up
again
on
that
theme
of
train
service,
Riverside
County
Transportation
Commission
sent
a
delegation
to
Washington
D.C
meeting
with
Congressional
representatives
in
the
Department
of
Transportation
on
tier
two
environmental
impact
funding,
and
we
had
representatives
from
across
the
County
of
Riverside
that
were
involved
in
that
there
is
unanimous
support
at
rctc
for
bringing
rail
to
the
Coachella
valleys.
That's
really
great
progress.
A
Lastly,
a
couple
of
issues
from
League
of
California
cities,
which
had
in
early
September
the
annual
conference
from
the
league
won
a
personal
note,
and
then
it
matter
that
I
want
to
make
sure
my
colleagues
here
in
Palm
Springs
are
aware
of
that.
I
think
is
going
to
play
out
in
the
future.
First,
just
personally,
I
was
elected.
The
second
vice
president
for
the
league
and
I'm
now
in
line
two
become
the
president
of
the
league
California
cities.
A
Taking
and
removing
some
measures
of
control
at
the
municipal
level
on
zoning
and
housing
issues
and
as
we
all
know,
the
legislature's
been
very
concerned
that
we're
not
building
enough
housing
and
that
part
of
the
reason
we're
not
building
enough
housing
is
that
there
are
local
ordinances
that
impede
the
ability
to
build.
Sb9
would
be
one
example.
Another
example
is
the
various
Adu
units
and
there
is,
on
the
part
of
a
number
of
cities,
very
strong
push
back
to
the
efforts
of
the
legislature.
A
This
went
to
the
general
resolutions
committee
for
a
review.
The
general
resolutions
committee
voted
39
to
4.
that
we
should,
instead
of
moving
forward
with
bringing
an
initiative.
We
should
refer
this
matter
to
policy
committees
for
further
study
for
some
of
the
39
voting
that
it
should
get
further
steady.
The
issues
were
ones
of
not
being
fully
on
board
that
all
of
the
acts
of
the
legislature
were
inappropriate
or
were
ill-advised
for
others.
A
It
was
not
a
lack
of
concern
over
some
of
the
legislature's
actions,
but
serious
concern
as
to
whether
or
not
we
in
the
league
had
the
ability
to
raise
the
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
that
it
would
take
to
operate
a
successful
initiative
and
very
serious
questions
as
to
who
our
allies
and
enemies
might
be
in
a
future
initiative
effort
on
the
next
day.
It
then
came
to
the
general
assembly.
The
first
question
was
to
whether
or
not
to
accept
the
vote
of
the
resolutions
committee
or
to
reopen
debate
on
that
issue.
A
The
vote
was
167
to
98,
to
not
reopen
the
debate
and
to
accept
the
decision
of
the
resolutions
committee
of
those
approximately
a
hundred
cities
that
were
on
the
losing
end.
There
is
quite
a
bit
of
angst
and
we
are
starting
to
see
a
great
amount
of
media
attention
as
to
whether
or
not
the
league
is
appropriately
representing
the
need
for
local
control.
A
So
we
here
in
Palm,
Springs,
have
pretty
consistently,
as
the
legislature
has
taken,
actions
tried
to
find
ways
to
make
those
actions
whether
we
would
have
agreed
100
with
everything
that
had
been
written
to
make
it
work
within
our
city
and
I.
Think
that's
largely
been
our
experience
and
certainly
is
the
manner
in
which
I
voted.
But
we
are
going
to
very
much
see
a
lot
of
additional
debate
and
unless
I'm
hearing
otherwise
from
my
colleagues
I
think,
we
will
continue
to
argue
that
we
need
to
work
with
the
legislature.