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Architectural Review Committee Meeting held on February 7th, 2022
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B
B
Okay,
robert
most
look
like
john
mccoy.
Second,
all
in
favor,
aye
aye,
any
opposed.
Thank
you.
Comments
on
an
item
appearing
on
to
tonight's
agenda
are
made
at
the
time
the
item
is
presented.
If
you
want
to
speak
on
an
item
not
on
today's
agenda,
you
may
speak
now.
If
anybody
in
the
waiting
room
has
any
items
they
would
like
to
discuss
with
the
committee,
please
identify
yourselves.
B
C
B
Okay,
then,
we
can
skip
over
that
and
get
to
the
consent
agenda,
which
has
two
items.
Item
number
one
greens
keepers
llc
doing
business
as
hits
studio,
requesting
the
approval
for
use
of
a
portable
open
sign
for
an
existing
cannabis
dispensary
located
at
155,
south
palm
canyon
drive.
The
recommendation
is
to
prove
that,
subject
to
conditions,
item
number
two
hunter
j
dog
llc
owner
requesting
a
land
use
permit
and
a
waiver
to
continue
the
use
of
an
enlarged
parklet
located
at
315
east
branus
road,
and
that
is
recommended
for
approval
subject
to
conditions.
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B
Aye
any
opposed
okay.
Maybe
we
can
get
through
the
rest
of
it
that
quick,
too
no
new
business,
number
three
jack
rivers
of
canyon,
print
and
signs
on
behalf
of
height
and
an
existing
cannabis
dispensary
for
the
approval
of
a
sign
permit
application
to
install
a
22.3
square
foot
permanent
wall
sign
at
3395,
north
indian
canyon,
drive.
F
Okay
as
introduced,
this
is
a
sign
permit
application
for
an
existing
cannabis,
dispensary
called
heighten
located
at
3395
north
indian
canyon
drive.
The
project
site
is
located
at
the
northwest
corner
of
san
rafael
and
indian
canyon
drive,
and
this
is
just
a
view
of
the
property
taking
from
the
street
intersection.
F
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B
F
B
A
A
B
G
F
This
was
actually
taken
from
the
google
street
view.
The
staff
went
to
the
site
and
took
the
picture.
However,
the
picture
did
not
turn
out,
though
it
was
very
clearly.
You
know
something
that's
clear
to
really
convey.
What's
going
on
on
the
property,
what's
just
a
lighting
issue
and
using
this
signage
was
used,
I'm
sorry,
this
image
was
used.
The
size
you
see
here.
This
is
the
unpermitted
banner
that
has
been
removed
from
the
site.
Okay,
there's
nothing
on
the
innovation
right
now,.
G
F
G
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B
B
Tom
dosey's
opposed
anybody
else.
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much
now
we'll
go
to
item
number
four
best
signs
incorporated
on
behalf
of
margaritaville
resort
for
signed
program.
Amendment
approval
for
the
two
existing
wall
signs
installed
on
the
front
entry,
canopy
fascia
at
the
margaritaville
resort
palm
springs,
hotel
located
at
1600,
north
indian
canyon
drive,
and
do
we
have
a
staff
report.
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F
Thank
you.
This
is
a
sign
program,
sign
program,
amendment
application
for
the
littleville
resort,
located
at
1600,
north
indian
canyon,
drive
project
site
is
located
at
the
northeast
corner
of
north
indian
canyon,
drive
and
east
vista
china.
It's
a
16.2
acre
lot
and
the
african
is
proposing
this
sign
program.
Amendment
up
to
include
two
after
the
fact
was
signs
in
the
approved
sign
program.
The
property
currently
has
an
existing
monument
sign
at
the
corner
of
indian
canyon.
F
The
vista
chino,
the
proposed
use
to
be
included
in
sign
program
are
located
on
the
fascia
of
a
front,
a
driveway
canopy
and
again
these
are
after
the
fact
signs.
As
you
see
one
facing
the
south
elevation,
the
canopy
fascia
and
the
other
one
is
located
at
the
the
fascia
of
the
porque,
which
faces
the
corner
of
the
indian
canyon
and
the
vistacino
behind
the
monument
sign.
F
F
Based
on
the
submitted
sign
plan,
the
proposed
signs
do
not
meet
the
sign
ordinance
regulations
as
as
analyzing
a
staff
report
and
the
insulation.
The
two
signs
is
not
necessitated
by
the
site's
physical
physical
features
or
setting,
and
no
supporting
evidence
which
indicates
that
the
deviations
from
the
sign
ordinance
are
necessary
for
the
effectiveness
of
the
sign
program
and
in
the
the
submitted
justification.
F
The
business
explains
that
the
signage
will
function
to
identify
the
entrance
to
the
resort
and
also
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
state
of
mind
into
the
customer,
finds
that
such
goals
or
intent
can
be
served
by
other
architectural
and
design
means.
In
other
words,
it
does
not
have
to
be
signage
to
achieve
those
goals
and
for
the
reason
staff
is
recommending
denial,
this
application
and
about
the
draft,
which
is
attachment
number
two
in
the
staff
report,
and
this
concludes
the
staff,
presentation
and
stuff
in
the
applicant
available.
If
you
have
any
questions.
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B
H
The
signs
were
fabricated
and
installed.
So
as
far
as
you
know,
presentation
on
you
know
why
why
we
think
these
signs
should
be
there.
I
don't
you
know.
Personally,
I
don't
know
that
these
signs
hurt
anything.
I
mean
it's
a
large
corner
project.
You
know
large
corner
building,
you
know,
there's
a
there's
a
monument
on
the
corner,
but
the
the
me
mikasa
sukasa
does
does
definitely
help
to
identify.
H
You
know
that
entry
onto
the
property-
you
know
their
their
theme
is
not
like
a
you
know,
a
streamlined,
modern.
You
know
simple
identification,
I
mean
that's
that's
kind
of
the
brand.
Is
that
you
know
you've
got.
I
don't
know
if
anybody's
been
on
the
property,
but
you
know,
there's
there's
you
know
fun.
Directional
signs,
there's
quotes
everywhere.
There's
you
know
quite
a
bit
of
that
margaritaville
theming,
so
it
it
is
part
of
their
theme.
I
know
that
you
know
not.
Everybody
can
have
their
theme,
but
it
definitely.
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B
G
B
My
comment
would
be,
I
think,
with
the
signs
having
different
materials,
different
fonts,
different
graphics.
It
just
makes
the
thing
look
really
cluttered
and
it's
something
that
in
palm
springs,
sign
ordinance.
One
of
the
goal
has
been
to
keep
things
simplified
and
clean,
and
I
just
think
this
goes
against
the
principle
and
thought
behind
most
of
our
sign
regulations.
So
I'm
not
favor
of
this.
E
I
would
I
would
agree.
I
would
think
that
especially
the
the
non-illuminated
sign.
You
can't
see
that
and
if
that's
one
of
the
things
is
to
have
fun
little
quotes
and
directional
signs,
that's
something
that
you
won't
even
see.
I
think
it's
too
obscure
by
the
front
sign
on
the
on
the
corner
of
the
monument
sign.
So
by
the
time
you
get
there
you're,
you
can't
even
see
it.
So
I
don't.
I
don't
think
it's
necessary
for
one.
D
I
I
agree
that
the
change
in
attitude
or
is
not
really
a
necessary
sign,
but
I
could
see
an
argument
for
keeping
me
casa
su
casa
simply
because,
as
you
drive
into
the
portico
you'll,
you
will
see
it
and
it
would
potentially
from
the
owner's
side,
start
to
create
a
certain
brand
or
image.
And
if
we
were
to
allow
any
of
them,
I
would
say
that
might
be
the
one
we
keep
and
then
get
rid
of
the
other
one.
E
See
I
would,
I
would
think
that
even
if
you
were
going
to
allow
that
one,
but
its
location
isn't
great,
I
mean
it's.
You
know
that
it's
the
portica
share
just
from
pulling
up
to
the
building.
I
don't
think
you
have
to
be
told
that,
and
so,
if
they
wanted
to
do
something
like
that,
I
think
there
may
be
a
blade
sign
above
the
front
door
as
your
inner
would
be
more
appropriate,
because
then
you
it's
eye
level
with
you.
As
you
come
into
that
port
of
cashier.
E
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F
F
The
purple's
residence
is
5223
square
feet,
which
includes
a
3866
square
foot,
primary
residence
and
a
969
square
foot.
Four
car
garage
and
a
631
square
foot,
guest
room
and
the
proposed
load
coverage
is
10.1
percent,
which
is
significantly
less
than
the
35
percent.
That's
permitted
in
this
area
and
africa
is
proposing
the
maximum
building
height
of
19.3
feet
and
applicants
submitted
an
administrative,
minor
modification
application
for
the
proposed
building
height.
F
F
F
F
This
is
a
purple's
floor
plan,
a
folka
garage
guest
room
at
the
edge
of
the
primary
residence
and
the
entrance
to
the
residence
is
over
here.
It
does
exhibit
a
really
linear
form
in
terms
of
the
design
of
the
residence
and
african
is
proposing.
This
is
a
roof
plank.
Excuse
me:
the
africa
is
proposing
wood
trellis
in
some
areas
of
the
residence
to
differentiate
the
materials.
E
E
F
B
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E
J
J
Thank
you
yeah,
so
we're
very
excited
about
this
project
very
unique
site.
We
started
the
design
process
by
going
out
and
walking
the
site
with
the
clients
to
gauge
primary
views
and
really
the
buildable
area
of
the
site,
which
kind
of
became
apparent
that
it
needed
to
be
located
in
in
that
flat
area
of
the
northeast
or
the
northwest
corner.
J
Primary
views
are
to
the
east
really
great
down
valley
views
of
the
whole
valley.
However,
when
we
were
out
there,
we
did
encounter
some
bighorn
sheep
across
the
street
on
the
west
to
the
west.
So,
even
though
privacy
is
a
very
important
thing
on
this
project
and
for
the
clients
we,
we
did
create
these
little
moments
with
this,
this
window,
that
extends
above
the
roof
line.
We've
got
another
window
from
the
pantry
because
we
didn't
want
to
miss
out
on
potentially
seeing
those
big
horn
sheep.
Again.
J
J
An
important
element
for
the
clients
was
the
casita
for
a
casita
to
be
located
somewhere
on
the
project,
and
we
found
that
creating
an
attached
split
level
casita
that
kind
of
steps
down
the
site
to
be
the
best
use
of
the
site,
and
it
helps
create
this
multi-level
architectural
feature
that
faces
the
valley
with
this
kind
of
two-story
glass.
So
we
are
applying
for
an
amm
for
this
project
because
that
north
wall
of
the
casita
noriko
are
you
able
to
go
to
that
elevation?
J
J
So
that
that's
what
that's,
why
we're
applying
for
the
am
for
this
project
for
materials?
We
we
want
to
choose
natural
and
low
maintenance
materials
that
are
again
very
of
the
earth,
so
the
first
selection
was
this
dark
natural
stone,
that's
kind
of
characteristic
of
the
boulders
on
the
site.
We
didn't
want
it
to
compete
with
it
and
we're
going
to
be
laying
these
the
stone
material
in
a
very
natural,
organic,
free
form,
kind
of
manner
to
also
enhance
the
linear
design.
J
We
selected
a
horizontal
board,
formed
concrete
and
we're
using
it
here
at
this
entry
wall,
and
we
we
really
like
the
way
we
want
to
pick
a
material
that
was
going
to
contrast
and
not
really
fight
with
the
natural
dark
stone.
So
we're
going
with
a
standard,
gray
concrete
here.
We
also
played
with
the
form
to
grant
like
this
subtle,
curving
entry
feature
kind
of
reminiscent
of
the
the
natural
topography
of
the
site
as
well.
Other
materials
like
noriko,
mentioned
we're
using
gray
integral
stucco.
J
We've
got
these
black
eaves
and
other
black
steel
accents
around
the
property.
When
approaching
the
landscape,
we
we
chose
a
simple
plant
palette
using
native
desert
plants
and
also
incorporating
the
numerous
natural
boulders
and
contours
of
the
site.
So
we're
we're
just
very
pleased
to
be
presenting
this
contemporary
and
minimal
design,
and
it's
a
it
was
a
great
result
of
months
of
design
with
the
clients
and
scientists.
B
E
E
J
E
B
Looking
on
your
site
plan,
it's
really
tough
to
see
the
grade
lines
and
if
we
could
look
at
the
front
elevation
noriko,
I'm
not
quite
getting
it
where
you
to
the
right
of
the
entry
stairs,
there's
a
depression
where
you've
got
that
cactus
and
then
it
rises
up
quite
a
bit
till
you
get
to
the
far
right
corner.
Could
you
explain
what's
going
on
there,
please
yeah?
So
that's.
J
Actually,
the
natural
slope
of
the
topography
there
and
we
wanted
to
keep
it.
We
don't
want
to
flatten
this
site
too
much
and
we
really
like
the
way
it
makes
this
stone
grow
out
of
the
earth-
and
you
know
finish
floor
is
actually
right
here
in
the
house.
So
we'll
be
doing
quite
a
bit
of
retaining,
and
you
know
we
are
building
this
wall
fairly
tall
then,
but
it
was.
It
was
our
intent
to
to
keep
the
side
as
natural
as
possible.
B
J
B
B
J
So
we've
got
a
lot
of
land
here
and,
like
noriko
pointed
out
where
the
house
has
only
taken
up
about
10,
so
we're
trying
to
create
these
little
areas
around
the
site
to
kind
of
go
and
wander
to
that
one
in
particular,
I
think
you're
talking
south
of
the
spa
in
the
pool
that
one
in
particular
we're
thinking
of
building
this
wood
deck
with
a
fire
pit
built
in
it.
So
just
kind
of
like
a
nice
observation
deck
for
going
wandering
too.
Okay.
D
A
J
J
We
do
have
some
dog
houses.
We
really
have
like
two
levels
to
our
roof.
We've
got
this
low
roof
that
extends
in
front
of
the
building
over
to
the
garage,
and
then
we've
got
this
higher
roof.
We're
going
to
keep
our
solar
panels
off
of
the
higher
roof.
We
have
these
hvac
mechanical
enclosures
or
what
we
call
dog
houses
on
the
roof,
and
we
are
going
to
get
our
solar
panels
north
of
those
there
here
over
these
guest
rooms
and
we're
also
going
to
get
some
on
the
garage
here.
D
J
Yeah
so
we're
gonna
have
four
zones.
We
do
have
this
zone
c
over
here
and
that's
gonna
feed
all
of
the
master.
Then
we
have
in
the
garage.
We've
got
two
zones
zone
a
and
zone
b
zone;
a
is
going
to
feed
all
the
great
room
and
then
zone
b
we're
going
to
be
building
a
drop
soffit
in
here,
so
that
hvsc
is
going
to
be
coming
through
this
way
and
then
all
of
our
structure
is
running
east
west.
B
A
B
J
The
sides
are
going
to
be
the
same
material
as
the
roof
membrane,
so
we're
going
to
take
that
single,
ply,
roof
membrane
and
run
them
up
the
sides
and
then
they're
going
to
continue
on
top
of
the
dog
houses.
We
will
also
have
some
vents
custom
vents
made
for
the
size
of
these
dog
houses.
That
will
be
the
same
color
as
the
as
the
roof
material,
but
that's
just
those
vents
are
doing
a
lot
of
are
doing
double
duty
for
us.
A
G
J
Is
the
same
proposed
quantity
tom?
Some
of
these
are
very
small
fixtures
like
this
is
just
a
little
accent
kind
of
pin
light
that
we're
just
kind
of
using
as
accents
around
the
property.
So
I
think
that's
why
it
kind
of
tallied
up
so
high,
because
these
very
small,
low
lumen
fixtures
that
we
have
lighting
boulders
and
pathways
around
it.
G
The
because,
when
you
look
at
the
legend,
it
does
call
out
some
of
them
to
be
up
to
5
watts
led,
and
you
know,
from
from
led
that's
a
lot
of
lumosity.
I
think
the
lowest
was
about
a
3
watt,
but
my
concern
is
is
how
much
light
is
being
put
up
on
the
hillside,
right,
particularly
from
I
believe
it's
called
kawia
hills,
though
the
ancient
stone
houses
way
above,
if
those
would
be
looking
down
on
to
this.
So
so
that's
one
concern
I
had.
G
J
Right
so
you're
talking
these
guys
here.
These
are
all
of
the
trees
that
we're
proposing
and
what
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
kind
of
create
these
pockets
and
flatten
them,
and
those
are
going
to
be
about
16
feet
lower
than
the
finished
floor
of
our
house.
So
it's
not
going
to
block
the
the
homeowner's
views
down
valley,
but
it
is
going
to
help
screen
the
roof
line
from
people
down
the
valley.
Looking
up.
G
J
G
Okay
and
then
one
final
question
in
in
you
and
chairman
jake
way
we're
talking
about
it
earlier
on
the
front
elevation,
the
natural
topography,
and
when
you
look
at
the
toppo,
it
looks
like
there
are
some
boulders.
But
I
guess
my
recommendation
is
the
the
wall
that
projects
out
into
the
landscape
at
the
very
far
right
of
this
elevation?
J
I
think
it
is
going
to
be
this.
This
side
is
covered
in
boulders
and
I
don't
think
that
this
these
renderings
are
really
doing
it
justice
to
to
show
the
sheer
amount
of
boulders
there.
So
it
is
going
to
be
a
very
kind
of
design,
build
site,
specific
activity.
When
we
do
that
and
we
we
will
be
incorporating
more
boulders
here.
G
A
B
A
J
Thought
about
getting
access!
Oh!
This
is
taking
a
while
to
load
here
about
about
putting
a
door
here,
but
ultimately
discussing
with
the
clients
and
stuff
the
people
that
are
going
to
be
living
or
staying
temporarily
in
the
in
the
casita.
They've
got
a
a
small
kitchenette
here
that
they'll
be
able
to
use,
and
then
they
they
do
have
access
to
to
the
rear
yard.
A
J
B
J
This
is,
this
is
going
to
be
a
pool,
equipment
vault,
and
you
can
see
we're
going
to
have
a
concrete
roof
on
top
of
the
vault
and
our
intent
is
to
have
about
12
inches
of
soil
above
that,
so
we
can
really
disguise
it.
So
it's
just
going
to
kind
of
daylight
out
here
and
you'll
have
to
walk
around
to
get
into
the
pool
equipment,
but
from
above
you
won't
be
seeing
it.
B
B
I'll
comment
that
I
think
it's
a
great
project
materials
are
perfect
for
the
area,
though
I
agree
with
da.
It
was
dan
comment
that
the
roof,
I
would
think,
would
be
better
in
a
tan,
color
range,
so
that
you
are
as
you're
looking
down
seeing
the
same
colors
out
beyond
this
project
and
other
than
that,
I
I
think
you
hit
it
on
nail
on
the
head.
G
B
A
B
Okay,
we're
looking
at
item
number
six
one
las
palmas,
llc
for
a
major
architectural
application
for
the
review
of
four
single-family
house
types
on
11;
hillside
lots
in
an
administrative,
minor
modification
for
a
front
yard;
setback
reduction
for
three
lots
in
increasing
building
height
for
four
house
elevations
located
at
las
palmas
estates,
drive
staff
report.
Please
thank.
C
K
The
project
was
first
planted
in
2002
for
19,
I'm
sorry,
17,
single-family
lots,
and
over
the
years
there
has
they
have
come
in
for
lot
splits
and
other
light
line.
Adjustments.
So
there's
a
total
of
20
lots
in
the
one
less
pumice
project.
So
today
the
architectural
review
committee
is
to
review
four
house
types
with
six
elevations.
K
They
are
requesting
an
administrative,
minor
modification
for
a
front
yard
setback
reduction
and
an
increase
in
building
height
on
a
side
yard.
In
looking
at
the
development,
as
I
mentioned
there
are,
will
be
20
lots.
The
north
side,
which
is
along
crescent
drive,
is
not
considered
architectural
review
and
some
houses
are
currently
under
construction
and
I'll
show
you
a
picture
in
just
a
minute.
K
It's
the
lots
on
the
south
running
from
the
spillway
of
the
riverside
county
flood
project
along
the
south
end
of
the
development
and
you'll
notice.
In
these
in
this
picture
there
you
can
see
that
the
lots
are
are
graded.
The
street
is
in
the
curbs,
are
in,
and
the
toe
of
the
slope
is
the
darker
brown
and,
if
you've
been
to
the
site,
this,
the
mountainside
really
becomes
steep
quite
quickly.
K
The
app
the
applicant
has
provided
a
a
diagram
showing
how
the
lot
the
houses
could
be
cited,
and
this
is
a
flipped
version
of
what
we
just
saw.
So
the
mountain
is
on
the
the
top
portion
of
the
of
the
slide
and
then
the
non-architectural
review.
Lots
are
on
the
bottom.
So
currently
this
house
on
lot
3
is
under
construction.
K
K
K
K
K
A
K
Comprised
of
stucco
white
quartz,
stacked,
stone,
metal,
vertical
louvers,
dark
accent,
colors
and
then
the
concrete
driveway
there
are
visualizations
that
in
your
packet
the
applicant
gave
us
an
extensive
packet,
so
you
could
see
what
these
houses
will
look
like.
As
I
mentioned,
all
the
houses
face
west
with
pools,
outdoor
barbecues,
dining
areas
and
so
forth,
and
you
notice
the
mountain
is
steep
behind
it.
K
K
And
this
is
a
landscape
plan
showing
the
palms,
the
ficus,
the
lantana
and
so
forth.
All
the
landscape
plans
are
similar
in
their
design
and
then
we
have
a
floor
plan.
As
I
mentioned,
the
16
foot
tall
section
of
the
house
is
the
back
portion
or
the
right
left
side
side
of
the
house,
which
is
the
great
room
master
bathroom
in
the
garage
moving
on
to
1b.
K
K
K
This
also
has
a
16
foot
left
side,
the
landscape
plan
and
then
the
floor
plan.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
you
come
through
this
door
here
on
the
left
and
it
enters
into
the
great
room
on
the
left
hand,
side
of
the
house
plan
2b
also
has
the
garage
in
the
center
of
the
house,
but
this
has
breeze
block
that
you
with
the
front
door
here
that
you
enter
into
a
courtyard.
K
K
F
K
K
Moving
through
these
here's
the
floor
plan
plan
five.
This
is
specifically
cited
on
a
at
the
very
end
of
the
cul-de-sac,
there's
a
driveway
that
leads
back
to
several
houses
in
the
rear.
This
has
a
side
loaded
garage,
so
the
garage
is
actually
behind
this
wall
here
and
you
notice
it
has
different
angles
to
the
front.
K
So
this
is
the
side
loaded
garage,
and
this
is
a
shared
driveway.
That
goes
back
to
two
other
lots
in
the
back
and
the
living
area
of
the
living
area.
Here
with-
and
this
is
just
conceptual
design-
they
tell
me-
could
be
the
app
the
prospective
owner
would
pick
the
type
of
outdoor
configuration
of
the
pool
and
barbecue
areas.
K
K
Landscape
plans
and
floor
plans
and
share
that
we
did
notify
residents
that
are
adjacent
along
crescent.
I
did
get
a
phone
call
from
a
resident
who
was
just
asking
if
they
could
see
the
plans,
I
sent
them
to
them
and
I
did
not
receive
any
other
comments
other
than
just
knowing
what
what
was
what
was
going
on
behind
them.
So
that
concludes
my
report.
B
K
K
B
K
B
K
B
K
B
B
K
A
K
K
I
I
K
So
as
an
example
on
lots,
20
and
19,
there
was
one
large
house
that
was
on
these
three
lots
that
was
raised
and
when
I
was
there
on
the
site
today,
there
is
a
white
low
knee
wall
that
runs
along
the
back
of
these
locks.
That
delineates
where
the
flat
portion
ends
and
the
slope
of
the
mountain
begins.
K
B
B
It
would
be
so
much
more
helpful
if
the
sheets
were
numbered,
so
we
could
refer
our
ways
through
this
large
packet,
but
like
nothing's
labeled,
it
doesn't
say
front
elevation,
rear
elevation
on
the
roof
plan.
It
doesn't
say
any
parapet
heights
doesn't
show
any
roof
mounted
equipment
doesn't
show
any
solar
doesn't
show
any
drainage.
I
think
there's
just
an
awful
lot
more
information
that
we
need
before.
We
can
really
make
a
reasonable
discussion
of
this
project.
A
D
D
K
Right
so
any
side
yard
setback
at
that
setback
line.
The
building
height
is
to
be
no
taller
than
12
feet,
they're
requesting
16..
So
in
as
being
a
hillside
lot,
they
are
allowed
to
request
up
to
18
feet.
Well,
they
could
go
up
to
30
feet,
but
that
would
be
not
appropriate.
So
that
is
why
they're
requesting
the
16
is
that
it's
permissible
when
you
have
a
hillside
lot.
K
K
Well,
this
is
a
solid
wall
that
is
right
at
the
setback
line,
so
there's
really
no
four
to
one
ratio
that
would
get
it
up
to
18.,
it's
it's
where
the
wall
meets
the
setback
and,
unfortunately
it's
they're
asking
for
16..
Okay,
none
of
these
houses
will
be
built
on
the
north
side
of
the
street
because
they
they
have.
They
can't
ask
for
the
setback
reduction.
D
B
L
Sure
my
name's
brian
foster
developer
of
the
one
last
bombus
a
lot
of
the
questions
that
you're
raising
are
probably
more
specific
than
they
need
to
be
simply
for
the
fact
that
the
certain
lots
have
not
been
specifically
cited.
So
these
are
just
standards
that
you're
looking
at
buyers
will
have
the
opportunity
to
select
lots
and
options
and
so
forth.
So
you
see
some
variables
we're
just
we're
just
planning
on
not
having
the
same
elevations
right
next
door
to
each
other.
L
Obviously,
as
far
as
the
some
of
the
comments
about
the
height
on
the
this
at
the
16
foot,
16
foot
height
at
the
side
yard
setback,
it's
only
at
the
high
roof
area.
The
garages,
the
garage
and
the
master
bedrooms
are
set
at
12
feet.
So
it's
just
that
one
area
that
pops
up,
but
with
the
orientation
of
the
homes
looking
west
and
the
homes
being
set
back
differently
instead
of
from
front
to
back
or
north
to
south,
I
guess
you'd
say
or
some
are
north
to
south
with
the
east
west
orientation.
L
It's
appropriate
to
do
the
the
modification
that
we're
asking
for.
As
far
as
the
some
of
the
driveways,
most
of
them
will
be
much
deeper
than
18
feet,
the
one
that
you
were
talking
about
at
lot,
13,
that
set
back
where
it
pinches
in
the
corner
of
the
cul-de-sac.
I
believe
that's
set
at
18
feet,
so
there's
plenty
of
room
there.
L
Things
like
that.
So
at
this
point,
we're
trying
to
leave
enough
space
back
there
to
do
what
we
need
to
do
to
comply
with
the
mitigation
and
the
termination
between
the
toe
of
the
slope
will
be
natural
into
kind
of
working,
its
way
into
the
site
before
plant,
material
and
gravel
and
things
change,
but
overall
the
homes.
L
I
think
the
orientation
is
important
for
all
of
you
to
understand
that
the
homes
are
cited
opposite
of
the
way
the
lots
are
cut
and
that's
why
it's
important
for
the
setback
modification
and
we
wanted
to
have
some
variable
roof
lines
and
create
architectural
interest,
and
we've
already
established
the
palette
and
colors
on
the
north
side
of
the
street.
We
have
several
homes
under
construction
now
and
we
have
some
others
coming
there.
L
There
will
be
some
plans
that
are
on
the
south
side
of
the
street
that
will
be
built
on
the
north,
but
those
would
be
further
away
from
the
side
yard
setback,
so
it
would
be
within
the
with
that
sloping
envelope,
so
we'd
be
fine
there,
but
that's
only
going
to
be
probably
two
lots
and
lots.
One
and
nine
probably
have
that
condition
other
than
that.
I'm
open
for
questions.
If
you
have
any.
B
M
You
know
input
from
the
city
bending
input
from
you,
but
I
do
want
you
to
know
that
the
the
buyers
that
we
have-
and
I
can't
even
think
of
anybody
that
said
otherwise
they
want
the
look
and
the
feel
to
be
the
same
as
they
don't
move
down
this
community.
It's
pretty
unusual
to
have
all
that
feedback.
I'm
I'm
over
a
hundred
people
that
have
come
in
wanting
to
tour
the
site
that
are
qualified
buyers,
I'd
be
at
thousands.
M
B
K
D
K
Are
approving
the
architectural
designs
of
all
all
the
lots
of
all
the
designs
that
are
before
you
today,
so
you'll
give
us
you'll
give
the
applicant
direction
today.
If,
if
you
want
additional
information
we'll
you
can
continue
it
for
more
additional
information
or
you
could
deny
or
or
approve
either
way,
but
it
is
for
those
all
the
house
types
elevations
and
the
setback
reductions
and
increasingly
great.
Thank
you.
B
I
I
There's
no
north
arrows
setbacks
site
plan,
I'm
anxious
to
make
a
motion
to
continue
this
or
deny
it
until
we
get
better
drawings
with
more
accurate
detail
on
them.
Like.
I
think
this,
the
outline
in
the
in
the
draft
from
city
halls
pretty
clear
on
what's
required
on
a
site
plan,
elevations,
roof
plan,
floor
plans.
B
B
I'm
just
making
some
comments
so
that
they
can
understand
for
a
reason,
the
other.
My
biggest
concern
is
the
16
foot
height
at
the
side
yard,
because
the
locks
are
all
situated
so
that
justice
take
lot
15.
Its
swimming
pool
is
on
the
east
side
of
the
house.
So
it's
looking
directly
at
this,
the
side
of
the
house
next
door.
That's
just
10
feet
away
and
is
four
feet
higher
than
is
allowable.
I
don't,
I
don't
see
any
reason
to
approve
height
increases
when
it's
has
an
impact
on
the
neighboring
house.
B
If
the
pools
were
in
the
backyard-
and
it
was
just
side
yard
to
side
yard-
it's
something
that
I
think
would
be
easier
to
consider,
but
because
you're
having
the
neighbor
look
directly
at
that
and
there's
even
some
overhangs
over
those
doors
that
are
very
difficult
to
see.
So
I'm
with
sean
to
resubmit
and
revise
and
resubmit.
I
I
B
C
Yes,
so
yeah,
if
there's
no
other
comments
from
the
committee
members,
only
just
a
couple
of
updates.
In
the
past,
we've
talked
about
doing
electronic
submittals
and
the
city
moving
towards
online
permitting
processes
so
we're
still
working
through
those
technological
advances.
The
system
isn't
ready.