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From YouTube: City Council | Apr 7 2022
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City of Palm Springs City Council meeting, held April 7th, 2022
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When
we
have
completed
all
of
the
public
comments,
we
will
turn
the
floor
over
to
representatives
of
the
college
of
the
desert.
We
expect
to
have
individuals
from
their
executive
team,
along
with
chairman
perez
and
virtually
trustee
yant
once
they
have
completed
all
of
their
presentations.
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We
will
then
provide
an
opportunity
for
city
council
members
to
ask
questions
and
to
offer
comments
regarding
what
we
hear
this
evening
and
any
questions
or
concerns
that
have
emerged
earlier.
Once
we
have
completely
finished
the
agenda
related
to
the
college
of
the
desert.
We
will
resume
with
our
normal
agenda,
depending
on
the
time
that
it
takes
before
we
are
able
to
complete
the
cod
portion.
We
may
very
well
be
taking
a
break
before
we're
resuming
with
the
full
agenda.
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All
right,
city
clerk,
would
you
begin
with
public
comments
and
ask
and
start
making
phone
calls
to
those
who
are
outside
the
chambers?
If
anyone
is
in
chambers
and
wants
to
make
a
public
comment,
we
would
like
to
begin
with
those
who
are
in
chambers.
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It's
really
important
that
our
kids
here
that
I
grew
up
with
who
now
have
their
kids
that
are
growing
up
here,
have
abundant
opportunity
and
there's
abundant
opportunity
here
in
the
tourism
industry.
If
it
is
a
permanent
solution
for
them,
it's
something
that
they
really
enjoy.
They
really
want
to
do
it's
available
to
them.
If
it's
something,
that's
a
jump
off
point
where
they
learn
leadership
and
responsibility
how
to
manage
a
team,
that's
also
an
incredible
option
that
springboards
them.
They
want
to
leave
the
valley.
They
can
do
that.
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E
There
is
no
greater
industry
of
opportunity
in
our
valley
for
our
students,
the
visit,
greater
palm
springs
board
and
jpa
executive
committee
voted
to
support
the
learning,
hotel
and
hospitality
campus
by
dedicating
staff
and
resources
we
have
reached
out
to
cod
requesting
stakeholder
meetings,
including
employers
regarding
the
hospitality,
campus
and
learning
hotel
and
have
yet
to
hear
back
visit.
Greater
palm
springs
is
committed
to
seeing
that
this
campus
is
a
success
for
our
students
and
our
community
by
contracting,
with
one
future
coachella
valley
to
help
us
engage
students
and
develop
hospitality.
Career
pathways.
F
Mayor
council
staff,
I'm
rhonda,
hart
palm
springs
resident
and
a
candidate
for
city
council
district.
Three.
I
have
two
sons,
one
in
high
school
and
the
other
freshman
in
sonoma
state.
I'm
what
a
community
college
graduate
looks
like.
I
was
able
to
work,
go
to
school
and
be
active
on
campus,
because
the
community
college
was
accessible.
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F
If
that's
the
case,
why
weren't
all
expansion
projects
put
on
hold
for
re-examination
and
further
due
diligence?
How
could
an
athletic
field
project
move
forward
that
wasn't
even
an
item
on
the
capital
project's
priority
list
in
2020?
If
there
were
so
many
questions
and
concerns
about
enrollment?
How
is
it
possible
that
a
playing
field
was
added
to
the
list
during
a
covet
pandemic?
F
Why
isn't
the
athletic
field
project
also
on
hold
pending
the
results
of
the
consultant
studies?
The
last
recession
we
experienced
declining,
enrollment
and
facility
expansion
continued
all
based
on
the
understanding
that
students
were
still
underserved
and
lacking
access.
This
strategy
and
increasing
wrap-around
student
services
for
students
led
cod
to
be
the
state's
fastest
growing
college.
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F
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
idea
and
time
for
some
good
will,
with
the
college
of
the
desert,
to
give
that
land
back
to
the
city
of
palm
springs,
so
that
the
city
of
palm
springs
can
do
something
important
with
that
piece
of
land,
since
it's
no
longer
going
to
be
a
college.
This
is
an
important
area
of
our
town,
where
many
underserved
lived
be
great
to
have
some
affordable
housing
or
some
other
real
community
purpose
there
not
to
be
handed
to
some
developer
for
profit.
G
Good
evening
council
staff
community
members,
my
name,
is
dieter
crawford.
I
live
in
a
desert,
highland
gateway
estates,
neighborhood,
where
my
family's
lived
for
over
60
years,
my
family
came
to
palm
springs
in
the
early
1950s
and
settled
on
section
14
of
the
agua
caliente
indian
reservation,
and
it's
it's
just
funny
to
hear.
The
city
of
palm
springs
complain
about
cod
being
transparent
and
playing
politics.
G
G
So
with
that
being
said,
we
definitely
need
a
west
valley
campus
and
for
cod
and
palm
springs
and,
as
jr
said,
if
we're
going
to
give
that
farmer
property
at
indian
and
tram
view
to
a
developer,
we
want
to
see
affordable
housing
in
there
and
inclusionary
housing,
where
30
percent
of
the
residents
go
to
to
low-income
families
as
a
community
benefit,
since
we'll
no
longer
get
the
college.
G
So
we
won't
have
that
educational
opportunity
in
our
neighborhood.
So
we
just
wanna
see
some
self-help
housing
up
there.
So
that
way,
our
community
members
could
have
ownership
and
build
wealth,
maybe
something
of
the
sort
that
we
did
in
the
past
with
coachella
valley
housing
coalition.
Once
again,
my
name
is
dieter
crawford
thanks
for
your
time
and
consideration.
B
B
There
are
also
a
disproportionate
focus
by
the
trustees
when
they
speak
publicly
about
the
learning
boutique
hotel.
The
learning
hotel
is
a
very
important
component
of
the
west
valley
campus,
but
the
initial
plan
proposed
by
cod
for
the
campus
and
a
reminder
it
is
cod's
plan,
it's
a
much
broader
plan,
but
let's
focus
on
all
the
elements
and
not
the
mischaracterizations
one,
to
distract
the
attention
to
be
very
clear.
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B
B
B
B
B
B
Now
there
is
a
developer
who
is
taking
over
that
area
by
the
wind
farms,
and
although
we
are
okay
with
that
happening,
so
to
speak,
we
do
want
to
demand
about
30
percent
of
the
housing
to
be
given
to
our
residences
and
some
kind
of
programming
format,
so
that
our
residences
are
not
pushed
out
of
the
area
but
can
also
afford
new
development
and
housing.
B
H
Madam
mayor
and
honorable
members
of
the
city
council,
my
name
is
kathy
wermick
and
I'm
chair
of
the
planning
commission,
I'm
speaking
as
an
individual,
but
informed
by
issues
that
I
have
heard
on
the
daius
in
the
planning
commission.
Today,
I'm
asking
cod
to
return.
The
127
acre
site,
which
was
the
former
college
site
in
north
palm,
springs
to
the
city
of
palm
springs.
H
H
We
need
housing
where
the
city
can
use
its
funds
that
are
already
in
the
land
to
reduce
down
payments
for
residents.
We
need
affordable
apartments
that
we
can
use
that.
If
that
we
can
use
tax
credits
to
help
build,
that
land
needs
to
be
returned
to
the
city.
It
was
given
only
given
to
the
college
as
land
for
the
schools
and
you
shamelessly
abandoned
it,
and
the
minority
community
that
surrounded
it
at
a
time
that
you
were
going
to
provide
tech,
solar
and
wind
education.
You
chose
another
location.
H
We
think
it
is
outrageous,
and
I
think
it
is
outrageous
that
the
city
that
the
college
plans
to
sell
that
land
given
to
them
for
a
dollar
purchased
by
palm
springs
for
two
million
dollars
and
and
reap
seven
million
dollars
in
benefit
only
to
build
housing
that
will
not
be
affordable
for
that
surrounding
the
community.
If
cod
board
has
any
morals
any
sense
of
humanity,
any
sense
of
equity
that
land
needs
to
be
returned
to
palm
springs
and
happily
with
the
proviso
that
we
use
it
to
build,
affordable
housing.
H
I
also
want
to
say
that
I
very
much
support
building
the
college
as
it
was
originally
planned
in
the
current
palm
springs
campus.
There
is
no
reason
for
this
project
to
be
stalled.
Thank
you.
So
much.
B
I
Thank
you,
mayor
council,
members
and
college
of
the
desert
trustees.
My
name
is
mike
lebron.
I'm
president
of
grip
development,
real
estate
development
company
located
in
palm
springs
with
over
300
tenants
in
the
coachella
valley
that
includes
the
royal
hotel
in
downtown
palm
springs.
One
of
our
key
selling
points
to
attract
quality.
Restaurants,
national
tenants
and
the
kempton
brand
to
downtown
was
a
planned
cbd
campus
in
palm
springs.
I
The
hospitality
world
has
changed
in
the
past
three
years.
Today's
tenants
need
an
educated
workforce
to
execute
their
business
model.
The
number
one
priority
for
restaurants,
hotels,
including
retailers,
is
to
protect
their
bands.
This
can
only
be
achieved
with
an
educated
and
well-trained
workforce.
I
H
Thank
you,
hello.
My
name
is
luca
dio,
a
cod
alumni
and
local
property
manager.
I
wanted
to
comment
and
express
how
the
planned
cod
hospitality
learning
campus
is
essential
for
our
hospitality
workforce
and
continued
future
growth.
Hospitality
is
the
number
one
industry
in
our
valley,
which
means
it
offers
more
opportunities
locally
than
any
other
industry.
There
are
many
good
paying
careers
at
the
world-class
hotels,
restaurants,
venues
and
attractions
located
right
here
in
our
backyard.
H
We
are
doing
a
disservice
to
the
youth
in
our
community
by
not
having
better
educational
opportunities
available
locally
that
can
provide
can
prepare
them
for
these
careers.
So
much
of
the
attention
in
education
is
on
traditional
learning
settings
and
majors
that
are
claimed
to
lead
the
highest
paying
jobs.
Although
those
jobs
don't
exist
here
in
our
valley,
the
hospitality,
campus
and
learning
hotel
offer
students
an
opportunity
to
advance
their
career
potential
in
a
real
life,
practical
learning
environment.
H
It
offers
the
opportunity
to
find
careers
here
where
they
grew
up
if
they
so
choose
or
anywhere
in
the
world.
The
proposed
campus
also
offers
an
innovative
opportunity
to
prepare
students
for
careers
in
vacation
rental
property
management.
We
are
a
resort
community
with
nearly
6
000
vacation
rentals
across
the
coachella
valley,
hundreds
of
vacation
rental
property
managers
are
employed
locally
and
there
is
no
standardized
relevant
or
localized
training.
H
These
careers
pay
well
and
benefit
our
community
when
done
right,
better
hands-on
learning
in
a
controlled
and
professional
environment
where
the
training
is
being
taught
the
right
way
by
experts
who
know
our
community
in
our
industry
would
help
elevate
the
experience
exponentially,
not
just
for
guests
for
homeowners
and
neighbor
as
well.
This
is
about
what's
right
for
the
people
in
our
community
and
the
opportunity
that
exists
here
with
this
proposed
hospitality.
H
Learning
campus
cod
is
poised
to
be
a
visionary
leader
in
experiential
education
that
transforms
the
lives
of
people
in
our
community
and
facilitates
future
growth
for
years
to
come.
Please
see
that
palm
springs,
hospitality,
campus
and
learning
hotel
are
built,
as
promised.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
B
I
Good
afternoon
city,
council
members
staff
and,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
my
name
is
kelly
stewart
and
I'm
the
proud
general
manager
of
the
ritz-carlton
rancho
mirage,
and
I
also
serve
on
the
marriott
business
council
of
the
california
desert.
There
are
four
realms
of
an
experience
and
that's
education,
entertainment,
escapism
and
aesthetics.
I
The
richest
experiences
encompassed
aspects
of
all
of
these
four
realms,
which
is
what
coachella
valley
is
all
about
for
our
future
students
and
citizens.
My
team
and
I
at
the
ritz
carlton,
are
passionate
about
the
need
for
the
college
of
the
desert,
hospitality,
campus
and
learning
hotel
and
for
this
project
to
move
forward
in
service
and
hospitality.
I
We
are
100
behind
the
local
schools
and
will
provide
resources.
We
want
to
offer
students
more
than
entry-level
positions.
We
can
offer
them
long-term
careers
that
with
growth
potential
in
our
industry
and
our
company,
and
that
that
is
exponential,
ritz
carlton
and
mario
marriott
hotels
were
offered
these
resources
for
the
valleys
to
through
internships.
I
We
through
internships
can
provide
hands-on
real-time
experiences
for
the
students
that
can
gain
experience
and
garner
more
skilled
positions,
including
entry-level
management
positions
for
graduation
and
allowing
faster
advancement-
and
this
is
our
investment
for
reference,
my
resort.
We
currently
have
57
managers,
half
of
those
managers
live
here
and
are
educated
in
this
valley.
I
I
B
I
Let
me
address
some
of
these
points
briefly,
because
I
have
been
very
disappointed
to
hear
several
trustees
mischaracterize
our
valley
and
attempt
to
divide
our
value
between
east
and
west
trustee
perez
said
that
students
and
people
in
the
east
valley
are
poor
and
that
those
in
the
west
valley
have
more
money.
That
is
patently
untrue.
The
facts
are
that
97
percent
of
students
attending
psusd
are
eligible
for
free
and
reduced
meals.
I
That
is
more
than
any
other
school
district
in
the
valley,
including
coachella,
unified
trustee
gonzales
recently
said
that
west
valley
residents
asking
that
the
promises
made
by
the
college
being
kept
is
directed
against
the
east
valley
and
that
the
questioning
of
president
garcia
about
her
actions
is
racist.
That
is
highly
insulting
and
patently
untrue.
I
It
is
appalling
to
listen
to
these
efforts
to
separate
our
valley.
There
are
many
people
in
organizations
working
hard
to
make
this
value
a
strong,
cohesive
unit.
I
lead
one
of
those
organizations
and
I
work
every
day
to
try
and
continue
and
expand
that
work.
There's
a
clear
pattern
here
on
the
part
of
some
cod
trustees
to
avoid
serious
discussion,
but
when
pressed
they
fall
back
to
charges
of
racism
versus
west,
we
are
one
valley,
do
not
engage
in
tactics
to
try
and
divide
us.
B
H
Thank
you
and
good
evening,
I'm
speaking
tonight
to
request
that
the
cod
meetings
with
community
groups
need
to
be
meaningful
and
deliver
real
information.
The
meetings
between
cod
and
community
groups
need
to
involve
an
exchange
of
ideas
to
me,
those
community
outreach
means
setting
up
discussions
with
different
groups
across
our
valley.
This
could
include
chamber
of
commerce's
hospitality
and
restaurant
employers
or
street
associations
like
paseo
and
main
street
merchants.
Our
valley
certainly
does
not
lack
for
its
great
organizations.
H
We
should
have
a
two-way,
detailed
discussion
about
topics
relevant
to
each
of
these
group
groups.
Instead,
what
has
happened
is
that
cod
leadership
has
limited
the
public
to
two
to
three
minutes
of
public
comment
at
their
monthly
board
of
trustee
meetings
and
tried
to
limit
the
number
of
people
making
comments.
H
H
However,
when
the
public
tries
to
engage
the
college
of
the
desert
trustees,
they
are
rudely
dismissed
during
a
recent
board
meeting
of
the
college
of
the
desert.
Instead
of
responding
to
and
addressing
comments
from
the
public,
such
as
a
request
that
college
staff
provide
additional
information
at
a
future
meeting
trustee
gonzalez
in
her
remarks,
rudely
dismissed
the
people
offering
the
comments
by
stating
they
were
uninformed.
H
How
does
this
help
build
a
useful
dialogue
with
our
communities
as
part
of
our
tonight's
council
meeting,
I
request
the
council
ask
cod
for
a
town
hall
format,
meeting
that
would
involve
members
of
the
council,
president
garcia
and
cod
trustee
board
members.
All
we
are
requesting
is
to
have
conversations.
H
I
don't
believe
that
is
too
much
to
ask.
My
hope
is
that
this
evening
we
can
get
answers
to
the
questions
we've
been
asking
and
come
to
an
agreement
on
a
better
format
for
future
meetings,
designed
to
gather
valuable
information
that
can
be
used
to
develop
cad
programs
in
a
meaningful
way.
Thank
you.
B
H
Good
evening
my
name
is
shannon
anderson
and
I'm
the
general
manager
of
folks
in
palm
springs.
Thank
you
for
taking
my
call.
I've
worked
in
the
hotel
industry
in
palm
springs
since
1991,
and
while
there
has
always
been
a
need
for
hospitality,
employees
that
need
is
higher
now
than
it's
ever
been.
The
success
of
our
valley
has
been
built
on
hospitality
and
the
name.
Palm
springs
is
known
as
a
resort
destination
throughout
the
world
because
of
it.
We
need
to
support
this
campus,
as
it
is
essential
for
our
entire
valley's
goals.
H
H
I'm
not
in
front
of
a
tv,
my
name
is
peggy
trot,
I'm
the
general
manager
of
tipton
roam
palm
springs
and
a
resident
of
palm
springs.
I
have
been
in
the
hospitality
industry
for
over
30
years
and
recruiting
qualified
candidates
has
always
been
an
issue,
and
currently
is
the
worst
I
have
seen.
Keeping
students
engaged
starts
with
keeping
them
in
the
community,
which
is
why
I'd
like
to
ask
the
leadership
of
cod
to
fulfill
their
promise.
B
I
I
I
The
inaction
of
the
cod
board
of
truth
trustees
has
put
the
future
of
our
students
on
hold
in
any
sense
of
urgency
by
them
is
lacking.
I
implore
the
council
to
do
whatever
you
can
to
have
the
college
move
forward
on
the
west
valley
campus
as
soon
as
possible.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
this
evening.
B
H
Thank
you
for
holding
this
most
important
session,
this
jenny
foden.
As
you
know,
I
form
a
member
of
the
city
council
and
having
a
campus
in
the
city
has
been
the
work
since
2004
when
former
mayor
odin
and
I
negotiated
for
was
promised
to
palm
springs
campus
18
years,
two
pieces
of
property
purchased
and
over
50
million
spent,
and
we
have
nothing
today,
he
was
driving
by
the
ugly
sighted
talk
with
the
feral
and
got
excited
to
see
a
tractor
moving
on
the
property.
H
Finally,
I
thought,
but
unfortunately,
at
closer
glance,
it
was
moving
trees
right
in
the
middle
of
nesting
season.
I've
come
to
expect
that
things
happen
to
cod
behind
closed
doors.
So
why
wouldn't?
I
believe
that
it
was
a
tractor
beginning.
The
campus,
which
brings
me
to
discussions
by
cod
leadership,
must
not
be
held
behind
closed
doors.
Transparency
is
an
overused
word,
but
what
it
means
here
is
that
a
public
entity
making
major
decisions
about
spending
our
tax
dollars
are
required
to
have
decision
discussions
in
public.
H
As
an
example,
at
a
january
2022
meeting
of
the
cod
board
of
trustees,
it
was
shared
that
both
the
west
valley,
campus
and
design
and
the
cost
of
increases
of
the
automotive
academy
visual
city
were
discussed
in
a
closed
session
meeting
by
the
board
of
trustees
totally
illegal
under
the
brown
act
to
discuss
property
except
for
cost
and
terms,
I've
done
it
through
all
the
board.
I've
seen
excuse
me:
I've
gone
through
all
the
board
of
directors,
minutes
and
agendas.
H
H
The
latest
example
of
lack
of
transparency
is
that
cod
leadership
has
refused
to
produce
a
copy
of
the
contract
for
the
additional
studies
and
assessment
that
they
claim
they
need
to
evaluate
the
west
valley
campus.
How
are
we
to
determine
where
the
scope
of
that
contract,
whether
it's
necessary
for
work
that
I
very
much
doubt
is
needed,
is
appropriate?
H
B
I
I
I
B
J
I've
worked
in
hospitality
for
25
years
and
20
years
of
has
been
in
the
desert.
I
did
vote
for
measure
b
in
2004
and
measure
cc
in
2016
and
I
do.
I
Expect
for
the
west
valley
campus
to
be
built
like
the
voters
approved
and
were
promised
when
the
campus
is
built.
I
fully
support
the
building
of
a
learning
hotel
at
the
campus
there's
only
so
much
you
can
teach
in
a
classroom
setting
students
needs
need
the
hands-on
education,
so
they
know
how
to
deal
with
the
many
issues
that
come
up
in
the
day-to-day
operations
of
a
hotel
or
restaurant.
I
A
role-playing
in
a
classroom
does
not
compare
to
the
real
thing
when
it
is
the
campus
is
built.
The
hotel
should
not
be
on
the
chopping
block.
That
is
a
key
part
of
it.
We
need
new
young
hospitality
professionals
to
support
the
growing
tourism
business
in
the
whole
valley,
and
the
campus
will
be
a
great
contributor
to
this
need
of
the
growing
hospitality,
and
it's
also
just
not
young
people
that
attend
cod.
I
I
also
have
concerns
about
how
the
taxpayer
money
has
been
spent
so
far
on
the
west
valley
campus,
the
december
14
2021
mass
capital
project
report,
which
is
a
report
prepared
by
the
college's
independent
consultants
in
charge
of
the
campus
project
development
states
on
page
8.
It
spent
9.6
million
with
a
remaining
budget
of
332.6
mil.
B
B
B
So
the
question
one
question
to
the
board
is
how
much
has
actually
been
spent.
One
report,
99.6
million
and
the
other
report-
43
million-
so
that's
definitely
a
question.
We
need
them
to
answer
it.
The
public
has
a
right
to
know
where
our
money
went
and
how
it's
being
spent,
and
I'd
also
like
to
remind
the
trustees
that
college
of
the
desert
stands
for
the
whole
desert.
It's
not
the
college
of
the
east
desert
or
the
west,
it's
the
college
of
the
desert,
and
I
thank
everybody
for
their
time.
Thank
you.
B
H
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
giving
me
some
time
to
speak
about
this
issue.
Trustee
gonzalez
recently
stated
that
she
wanted
to
use
the
bond
money
for
the
downtown
revitalization
of
cities
throughout
the
valley,
and
when
I
heard
that
I
I
was
just
gasping,
does
she
understand
what
a
role
is?
This
is
not
economic
development
funds
for
urban
renewal.
H
H
If
urban
renewal
was
the
goal
of
the
college
of
the
desert
board,
which
it
most
definitely
was
not,
they
should
start
with
the
abandoned
west
valley.
Campus
site
off
springs,
it's
a
complete
disgrace,
ironically,
before
they
demolished
the
existing
buildings,
it
housed
two
career
vocational
colleges,
offering
courses
in
healthcare,
business
and
technology,
so
not
only
have
they
failed
to
build
opportunities
for
our
young
people,
they've
actually
taken
them
away.
H
Trustee
gonzalez
also
recently
wrote
that
quote.
I
never
knew
that
it
was
our
responsibility
to
serve
as
an
employment
agency.
Unquote.
She
apparently
does
not
think
it's
the
college's
job
to
help
students
acquire
skills
and
knowledge
that
will
help
them
in
the
job
market
either.
I
would
suggest
that
the
trustees
focus
on
what
they
were
elected
to
do
and
leave
issues
of
city
renewal
to
the
local
governments
where
there
are
experts.
B
H
Thank
you
very
much.
I'm
claire
grant
and
I've
lived
in
palm
springs
for
most
of
my
life.
I
attended
palm
springs
high
and
started
my
college
career
at
cod.
So
it's
a
subject
very
close
to
my
deeply
troubled
by
the
lack
of
transparency
demonstrated
by
the
cod
board.
The
decisions
that
they've
made
recently
and
are
continuing
to
make
are
being
made
without
any
kind
of
public
input
or
vote.
Cod
is
not
a
private
institution.
H
Yet
it's
acting
like
one.
It's
acting
like
a
secretive
private
organization.
It
is
a
publicly
funded
college.
The
situation
is
even
more
troubling
when
you
hear
quotes
by
president
perez
who,
when
asked
about
these
issues
surrounding
cod
by
a
television,
interviewer
responded
with
quote
it's
not
my
fault,
which
really
is
all.
H
B
I
Thank
you
very
much.
My
name
is
arthur
hernandez.
I'm
calling
in
to
simply
say
three
things
regarding
the
situation
that
involves
the
city
of
palm
springs
as
well
as
cod.
I
I'm
a
long
life
resident
here
of
the
coachella
valley
living
in
plum
desert
for
over
20
years
and
having
worked
in
palm
springs
for
again
over
15
years.
I
want
to
encourage
the
palm
springs
city
council
to
do
the
following
number.
One
continue
open
communication
with
cod
to
ensure
that
there
is
transparency
in
the
steps
that
are
necessary
to
move
forward
with
the
projects
that
are
being
discussed,
understanding
that
students
need
to
be
at
the
forefront
of
all
decision
making
number
two
to
allow
the
new
leadership
at
cod.
I
The
opportunity
to
move
the
promises
made
forward
with
the
full
understanding
that
the
previous
leadership
left
many
of
its
constituents,
unaware
of
the
reality
that
changes
were
made
to
the
plans
before
the
new
leadership
transition
in
and
thirdly,
to
focus
on
the
new
leadership
at
cod,
beginning
with
dr
martha
garcia,
by
allowing
her
to
speak
and
present,
but,
most
importantly,
to
share
her
visions
of
the
new
campus.
Without
interfering
and
without
preconceived
ideas
of
what
her
intentions
are
to
better
our
community.
I
Lastly,
I
want
to
encourage
the
palm
springs
city
council
to
keep
in
mind
that
the
seeds
of
conspiracy
was
planted
by
the
previous
president
as
a
way
to
divert
attention
and
cause
chaos
which
I
have
been
reading
in
the
newspaper.
I
have
been
seen
on
facebook
on
social
media
and
it
all
needs
to
stop
this
conspiracy.
B
H
Hello,
I
was
just
thinking
that
if
the
plan
was
to
move
forward
with
this
hospitality
school
after
starting,
the
studies
are
updated,
why
was
doug
walton,
who
led
so
much
of
the
effort?
I
was
to
let
go
in
december
and
it
certainly
raises
a
big
red
flag
and
what,
on
what?
Cod's
intentions
are.
H
B
F
Hello
mayo:
mate.
Excuse
me,
hello,
mayor
city,
council
members,
it's
good
to
see
you
guys.
Finally,
back
in
the
chambers
community
as
well
today,
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
cod
campus
as
well
as
the
general
plan.
First,
I
want
to
talk
about
the
cod
campus.
F
I
just
want
you
guys
to
remember,
keep
in
mind
that
a
desert
highland
community
also
has
property
that
has
not
been
used.
Cod
is
currently
under
contract,
as
you
heard,
with
the
developer
to
build
there.
We
would
like
for
that
property
to
go
back
to
the
city.
We
would
like
for
you
guys
to
do
everything
you
can.
I'm
in
the
1995.
F
F
Excuse
me
r
ones,
so
they
took
away
the
housing
from
the
community
there
in
desert
highland.
It
was
a
travesty.
The
boxes
were
taken
away
from
the
pulled
from
the
homes
they
weren't
allowed
to
be
able
to
have
any
electricity
or
anything
on
the
homes,
so
they
were
forced
to
turn
those
properties
into
one
unit.
They
had
a
certain
amount
of
time
that
they
had
to
comply.
F
If
they
didn't
comply,
those
properties
were
taken
and
they
were
turned
into
r1s.
Our
community
has
suffered,
those
properties
are
still
sitting
vacant
that
has
been
since
1995.,
we're
still
we've
been
pushing
the
city
and
everyone
else
is
pushing
for
housing.
This
is
a
perfect
opportunity
to
switch
those
properties
back
and
activate,
maybe
possibly
getting
some
investors
in
there,
or
maybe
some
some
people
to
do
some
building
in
our
community
maybe
get
us
some
more
four
units,
maybe
possibly
even
building
up
it's.
F
You
know
something
that
I've
seen
the
city
has
done
recently,
where
we're
changing
zonings.
So
I
just
really
would
hope
you
guys
take
in
consideration
in
the
general
plan.
Take
that
into
consideration
and
once
again
that
those
streets
are
rosa
parks,
el
dorado,
tranview,
corazon
and
also
rosa
parks.
So
my
name
is
charlie
irvin,
I'm
a
planning,
commissioner,
and
also
a
member
of
the
desert
highland
community.
Thank
you.
B
I
I
I
I
don't
understand
why
there's
no
dialogue
between
the
trustees
when
there's
a
surprise
like
this
yesterday.
These
are
the
only
occurrences
that
we
know
about,
because
cod
leadership
noted
them
in
answering
other
questions.
My
question
is
how
many
more
discussions
were
illegally
held
behind
closed
doors?
How
many
more
quote
hidden
quote:
memos
are
out
there
that
you
have
not
seen
how
many
times
did
the
cod
board
misuse
the
privilege
of
allowing
being
allowed
to
meet
in
closed
session?
B
I
I
K
I
My
sister,
my
neighbors
and
other
people
in
my
neighborhood
attend
cod
and
my
brother,
my
cousin
and
their
friends
have
all
mentioned
their
future
plans
to
attend
cod
as
well.
This
campus
would
be
so
much
more
closer
to
all
of
us,
and
the
accessibility
of
this
campus
would
motivate
many
more
to
attend.
Having
this
campus
will
help
us
with
gas
expenses,
flexible
time
schedules
and
just
time
in
general
because
of
the
commute.
B
K
H
B
H
I
have
worked
in
education
for
over
20
years
and
I
have
had
the
honor
to
see
children
go
from
kindergarten
to
college
graduation,
but
sadly,
I
have
seen
many
more
who
come
from
very
hard
working
families
end
up
with
very
low
paying
jobs
simply
because
they
couldn't
afford
to
further
their
education.
H
H
The
campus
out
here
at
this
end
of
the
valley
would
be
such
a
tremendous
help.
All
you
have
to
do
is
visit
any
of
our
schools
to
see
how
important
it
is
for
us
and
for
this
part
of
the
valley,
perhaps
trustee
gonzalez
said
it
right.
We
are
uninformed.
So
if
we
are
uninformed,
then
inform
us
create
meaningful
dialogue.
There
are
many
groups
waiting
to
engage
in
the
list
of
values
for
college
of
the
desert.
H
H
A
Thank
you,
and
I
want
to
thank
everyone
who
came
forward
to
provide
public
comments
and
with
that
I
would
now
like
to
turn
over
the
microphone
to
president
perez
to
trustee
yant
to
president
garcia
and
to
any
other
members
of
the
cod
community
that
are
going
to
be
presenting,
and
let
me
start
by
saying
to
president
perez.
A
J
Well
well,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Everyone
good
evening,
mayor
middleton,
honorable
council,
members,
residents
of
palm
springs
and
members
of
the
greater
palm
springs
community.
My
name
is
ruben
arias
lamperes
and
I'm
board,
chair
of
the
college
of
the
desert
board
of
trustees.
I
would
like
to
thank
all
the
all
those
that
commented
for
their
civic
engagement
as
well
as
all
of
you
up
on
the
diocese
for
your
civic
duty.
Thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
be
here
today
with
me.
J
Our
presentation
today
is
for
informational
purposes
and
the
furtherance
of
the
80-minute
presentation
and
discussion
at
the
board
of
trustees
meeting
on
march
18.,
the
presentation
for
which
can
be
found
on
our
website
via
board
docs
further.
This
information
is
subject
to
refinement
throughout
the
process
identified
in
this
presentation.
J
While
this
is
not
a
q,
a
upon
the
conclusion
of
the
presentation
we'll
respond
to
questions
as
best
as
possible.
However,
we
may
not
have
all
the
answers
to
your
questions
tonight.
We
will
continue
to
keep
you
informed
and
there
will
be
much
more
opportunity
for
input
and
collaboration
throughout
the
process.
Moving
forward
college
of
the
desert
is
pleased
to
have
the
opportunity
to
provide
this
update,
update
and
to
show
that
it
is
absolutely
committed
to
the
palm
springs
campus
next
slide.
Please.
J
J
Next
slide,
please
and
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
mac
mcginnis,
who
will
be
able
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
history
of
the
projects.
L
L
The
slide
we
have
here
is
the
first
iteration
of
the
project
that
was
planned
on
north
indian
and
tram
view
there.
What
you
see
is
a
full
build
out
of
that
site
there.
The
plan
was
to
develop
about
50
000
square
feet.
So
if
you
see
the
most
eastern
building
there,
the
little
small
building
that
was
what
was
planned
originally
because
of
funding,
and
but
that
shows
you
the
full
build
out
that
started
in
2010
and
by
2012.
L
It
was
submitted
to
the
department
of
state
architect
for
review
and
plans
were
approved
in
2013..
So
next
slide,
please
so
the
second
iteration
is
exercise
at
the
now
palm
the
mall
site
in
2015,
the
west
valley
campus,
a
master
plan
was
completed.
Actually
it
was
complete
in
2016.,
the
master
plan
describes
providing
general
and
basic
skills,
education
plus
targeted
academic
areas.
As
you
can
see
there,
an
architect
was
hired
in
2018
to
produce
the
program
documents,
and
at
that
time
the
name
was
upgraded
to
the
palm
springs
development
project.
L
L
There
was
a
competition
that
was
performed
by
three
different
architectural
firms,
wrns
won
the
competition,
and
so
they
became
the
architect
of
record
for
this
for
this
project.
Here,
during
this
phase,
the
there
were
some
additional
funding
requirements
that
became
apparent
and
those
were
due
to
funding
sources
in
2018,
the
district
developed
a
strategic
strategy
to
build
the
palm
springs
in
multiple
phases,
rather
than
trying
to
construct
the
entire
campus
at
once.
L
The
phase
approach
to
the
project
was
necessary
to
better
match
construction
expenditures
with
the
projected
debt
insurance
debt
issuance
schedule,
because
this
ensures
that
the
promised
rate
to
the
taxpayers
of
no
more
than
twenty
dollars
per
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
so
that
would
be
honored
the
next
slide,
please.
What
you're
looking
at
here
is
a
look
at
the
you're
looking
south
at
the
accelerator
project
or
accelerator
building,
and
you
can
see
how
it's
there
overhangs
there
to
provide
some
of
the
shading
strategy.
L
L
So
it's
a
a
porch
to
the
maker
space
area.
This
is
a
space
where
students
can
gather
and
talk
with
one
another
between
classes
next
slide.
So
this
is
a
site
plan.
The
last
site
plan
that
was
developed
and
you
see
all
the
elements
that
were
part
of
this.
There
was,
you
know
the
accelerator
on
down
to
the
hotels
and
villa's
there,
one
through
ten,
showing
a
unified
roof
plan
stretches
across
the
project
there.
L
L
So
if
you
go
to
the
next
one,
this
is
a
campus
view
looking
southwest
from
the
southwest,
so
you
can
see
at
the
bottom
of
the
of
the
picture
there,
the
long
rectangle
there
that
was
the
mobility
hub,
then
the
larger
piece
there
going
north
is
the
accelerator
and
terminating
at
the
hotel
and
villas
to
the
north.
There.
L
The
next
view
is
a
view
actually
from
the
west,
not
the
east,
but
it's
from
the
west
looking
east
again
the
accelerator
to
the
right
and
the
villas
and
hotel
to
the
left,
along
with
a
convention
center
and
a
right
there
in
the
middle
of
the
kind
of
red
piece
there.
L
J
So
the
question
arises:
will
the
palm
springs
campus
be
built
and
the
the
answer
is,
the
simple
answer
is
yes,
the
campus
will
be
built.
College
of
the
desert
is
committed
to
this
project
and
we
still
plan
to
focus
the
campus
on
the
academic
areas
of
hospitality,
culinary
arts,
film,
media,
digital
arts,
healthcare
and
sustainability.
J
Plus,
we
will
consider
if
other
programs
should
be
offered
and
needed
general
education
courses
as
an
example
of
community
partnerships
that
we
plan
to
prop
propagate.
We
wanted
to
mention
the
1.6
million
economic
development
administration
eda,
grant
that
we
applied
for
in
partnership
with
wizard
greater
palm
springs
through
pace,
we're
working
with
visit,
greater
palm
springs.
We
plan
to
develop
the
hospitality
industry
industry
training
program,
that
is
a
dynamic,
employer-driven
skills
training
program.
J
J
So
what
will
the
the
campus
look
like?
Learning
labs
will
be
built,
but
we
are
carefully
navigating
the
planning
of
a
learning
hotel
to
ensure
that
legal
and
prudent
use
of
funds
are
being
used.
We
are
exploring
different
alternatives
to
creating
a
learning
hotel,
just
such
as
a
partnership
with
marriott
or
hilton,
and
we're
currently
exploring
those
at
the
moment.
L
Okay,
so
what
you
see
on
the
screen
now
is
a
proposed
phase,
one
project,
so
the
decision
has
been
made
to
build
the
the
site
and
the
project
and
phases.
So
you
can
see
here
in
phase
one.
They
have
the
accelerator
project,
mobility,
hub
maintenance
and
operation
and
what's
being
studied
right
now,
whether
to
have
the
culinary
institute
or
culinary
of
arts
a
separate
structure
or
combine
it
in
the
accelerator
itself,
so
those
are
being
studied
right
now.
L
L
L
So
this
bond
measure
cc
is
funded
by
the
property
owners
spanning
the
nine
cities
and
unincorporated
areas
throughout
the
coachella
valley.
The
amount
in
the
capital
report
is
thirty
million.
Two
hundred
forty
seven
thousand
two
hundred
fifty
six
is
from
the
march
one
and
does
not
include
encumbered
funds,
but
best
reference
is
moving
forward,
will
be
the
capital
projects
report
to
the
board
of
trustees.
L
Each
year
the
district
engages
an
independent
firm
to
perform
annual
audits,
annual
bond
audits
report
to
each
measure.
The
links
to
the
most
recent
audit
reports
are
posted
both
and
both
mother
measure
b
and
cc
audits
are
completely
clean
and
reported.
The
district
has
properly
accounted
for
the
expenditures
held
in
the
measure
and
that
such
expenditures
were
made
for
authorized
bond
projects.
J
J
Both
groups
receive
updates
in
public
session
on
construction
projects
and
bond
expenditures
that
include
information
about
the
palm
springs
development
project
and
all
that
information
is
available
online.
The
capital
projects
report
is
intended
to
be
an
ongoing
update
on
all
projects.
Also,
we
do
share
that
info
on
the
board
of
trustees.
Presentation
and
live
links
are
shared
at
the
bottom
of
this
presentation
here,
plus
the
the
citizens
bond
oversight
committee,
has
agendas
minutes
and
annual
reports
posted
on
their
website
as
well.
J
J
While
this
is
a
summary
and
not
a
q,
a
format
tonight
we'll
be
happy
to
take
feedback
at
the
community
forum
to
come
and
through
engagement
with
stakeholders.
As
you
can
see,
much
planning
has
occurred
over
the
years
and
college
of
the
desert
is
certainly
committed
to
this
project.
Again,
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
join
you
today.
J
J
If
a
question
is
asked-
and
we
cannot
answer
it
tonight-
then
we'll
note
that
question
and
discuss
it
with
the
district's
team
and
we'll
be
back
with
an
answer,
but
we
also
have
members
of
our
administration
here
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you
so
much.
Everyone.
A
Thank
you,
chairman
perez
does
trustee
yant
or
president
dr
garcia,
wish
to
make
any
comments.
E
A
Are
there
any
other
comments,
mr
chairman,
that
you
or
your
folks
would
like
to
make
before
we
move
on.
J
Just
thank
you
again
for
for
allowing
us
to
be
here.
We
understand
the
importance
of
what
this
means
to
the
community
of
palm
springs.
A
I've
got
a
couple
of
comments
that
I
want
to
make
it's
it's
been
a
long
time,
but
just
over
50
years
ago
I
made
the
first
step
to
be
anyone
in
my
family
to
attend
college,
and
that
was
only
possible
because
of
east
los
angeles
community
college
being
in
the
area
in
which
I
lived
and
being
a
school
that
would
allow
anyone
to
get
in.
A
A
What
we
care
about
deeply-
and
I
believe
this
is
universal
across
all
of
our
communities
throughout
the
coachella
valley-
is
the
students
and
the
children
in
our
area
have
an
opportunity
to
grow
and
to
develop
in
ways
that
their
parents
and
grandparents
never
dreamed
of.
That's
why
this
campus
is
so
important.
A
A
A
How
do
we
partner,
but
how
do
we
make
sure
that
the
commitments
have
strong
timelines
and
that
campus
that
gets
built
is
the
campus
that
was
talked
about
in
2016.?
With
that?
I
want
to
turn
it
over
to
a
couple
of
my
colleagues
to
to
begin
some
questions:
council,
member
hostage
or
council
member
course.
C
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
and
thank
you
for
your
leadership.
We
very
much
appreciate
you
being
here
in
person
to
listen
to
our
residents
and
you
heard
a
bit
today.
I
know
it's
probably
more
public
comment
than
you
typically
get
at
your
meetings
because
we
hear
them.
People
come
to
us
as
a
city
council
right
to
talk
about
access
to
education.
C
To
talk
about
the
parcel
to
talk
about.
You
know
their
concerns
about
what
they're,
reading
and
hearing
so
really
appreciate.
You
being
here
to
clear
that
up-
and
I
just
have
some
clarifying
questions-
if
I
can
for
the
public,
so
you
know
we
heard
about
the
project
being
put
on
hold
or
being
paused.
Can
you
just
clarify
for
the
public
sort
of
what
happened
there
and
what
was
the
decision?
And
you
know
what
happened
in
that
decision?.
E
Yes,
we
are
currently
reevaluating
the
planning
information
that
was
previously
collected
and,
as
stated
by
mr
mcginnis,
going
through
the
process
of
developing
a
total
cost
of
ownership
plan,
and
that's
not
only
for
palm
springs.
It
is
important
that
I
highlight
that
it's
for
the
entire
district
once
that
information
is
finalized
presented,
then
we'll
proceed
with
our
plans
and,
at
the
same
time,
it
is
important
that
I
highlight
that
faculty
had
been
involved
in
a
limited
capacity.
C
K
Absolutely
I
think
the
easiest
way
that
we
can
explain
is
that
the
visibility
information
that
we
had
that
was
not
really
designed
completely
as
a
feasibility
study,
but
as
a
piece
of
the
planning
was
from
2016,
and
so
what
we're
trying
to
do
now
is
affirm
that
the
information
that
we
had
from
2016
is
updated
and
that
we
make
sure
we
take
into
account
that
any
new
changes
that
need
to
happen
based
on
new
needs
and
new
labor
market
information.
K
So,
as
was
referenced
by
many
people
in
their
public
comments,
the
field
of
hospitality
has
changed,
and
that
is
what
the
purpose
of
our
feasibility
is.
It
only
makes
sense
that
we
need
to
update
that,
since
the
information
is
older
and
a
way
to
sort
of
give,
an
example
is
in
education.
We
use
underwater
basket
weaving,
so
we
would
not
find
support
in
our
feasibility
for
a
program
like
underwater
basket,
weaving.
C
G
C
K
M
C
Thank
you.
Sorry.
You
should
have
done
that
at
the
very
beginning,
so
you're
talking
about
the
feasibility
information.
So
could
you
just
describe
what
data
you're
looking
for
in
that
feasibility
assessment,
so
you
described
a
little
bit,
but
what
are
those
data
points
that
you're
going
to
be
assessing.
K
Yes,
absolutely
I
don't
know
that
I
can
name
them
all
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
certainly
I
mentioned
the
labor
market
information
and
that
we
do
for
every
single
program
that's
being
considered
as
well
as
points
like
our
demographics,
the
things
that
were
mentioned
today,
information
about
how
people
travel
from
one
area
to
another
so
that
we're
making
sure
that
we're,
including
logistics
in
the
information.
K
We
also
want
to
make
sure
that
our
financials
line
up
with
what
we're
planning
in
terms
of
the
ability
to
sustain
the
campus
that
is
built.
So,
for
example,
we
take
many
of
us
for
granted
things
like
custodial
or
public
service,
and
those
are
items
that
we
need
to
take
into
account
with
our
study
to
make
sure
that
we
appropriately
would
staff
whatever
is
eventually
constructed.
K
C
E
So
what
I
will
share
in
regards
to
specifically
indio
india
had
been
planning
process
have
been
completed.
It
had
been
the
request
for
approval
to
the
division
for
state
architect
had
been
submitted
prior
to
my
arrival.
It
was
approved
soon
as
after
I
was
hired.
E
So
if,
if
and
very
candidly,
if,
if
that
had
happened
for
the
palm
springs
site
there,
we
would
not
be
having
this
discussion
today.
We
would
have
moved
forward
with
what
had
been
approved
for
the
division
by
the
division
for
state
architect.
E
Conduct
a
feasibility
study,
not
we
have
obviously
evaluated
labor
market
information.
We
have
definitely
reviewed
thoroughly
our
enrollment.
E
C
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that.
I
know
we
don't
wanna
grill
you,
but
I
just
want
to
it's
better
to
ask
it
out
and
open
and
just
clarify
for
the
public,
because
we're
just
hearing
so
many
of
these
questions
from
our
residents.
K
Sure
what
you
saw
today
were
the
latest
plans.
They
have
not
been
approved
by
the
board
if
you've
been
following
what
the
board
has
said,
they
have
not
had
not
seen
until
last
month
in
march,
a
full
presentation
on
where
we
were
on
the
project
and
the
full,
particularly
the
villas
that
had
been
planned
as
part
of
the
architectural
drawings.
K
What
the
feasibility
information
will
give
us
is,
yes,
it
could
affect
what
the
campus
ultimately
looks
like,
but
I
think
that
it's
more
so
the
programs
that
are
offered.
So
it's
less
about
the
pictures
that
you
saw,
which
are
more
about
the
exterior
viewpoint
and
more
about
what
happens
on
the
insides
of
those
buildings.
K
I
think
the
the
part
that
you're
you're
going
towards
is
probably
related
to
the
learning
hotel,
which
you
heard
in
the
presentation,
is
something
that
we're
planning
for
an
additional
phase
and
that
the
concerns
are
that
we
make
sure
that
we
have
a
legal
use
of
the
bond
funds
and
that
again
we
are
being
prudent
with
the
taxpayer
dollars.
K
C
Thank
you,
that's
helpful
and
then
the
budget
that
you
showed
is
that
the
current
approved
budget
by
the
board
for
the
354
million,
I
think
it
said,
will
that
be
lessened
or
reduced
by
the
feasibility,
updated
feasibility
information.
C
Thank
you,
and
I
just
want
to
say
I
saw
I
know
that
there
is
we've
had
meetings
to
talk
about
the
site
and
the
you
know,
trees
and
what
some
residents
have
called
blight
on
the
site
so
really
appreciate
you
and
your
leadership
working
on
that
with
us
to
make
sure
that
we
can
secure
the
site.
You
know.
Obviously
our
residents
are
concerned
when
we
hear
that
this
might
not
be
completed
until
2026.,
and
so
you
know
concerns
about.
What's
going
to
happen
through
the
site.
C
Have
you
thought
through,
and
maybe
we
can
talk
about
this
later?
If
you
don't
have
an
answer,
it
sounds
like
you'll:
do
a
forum
and
work
with
us,
but
the
access
to
education
for
our
residents,
who
are
very
much
in
need
of
access
in
the
interim,
so
what
students
here
are
going
to
do?
My
husband,
graduated
from
palm
springs
high
in
2004.
C
So
it's
hard
to
imagine
right
the
bond
measures
and
the
money
that's
been
allocated
and
the
really
the
frankly
generations
of
students,
who've
graduated
in
in
palm
springs
and
desert
hot
springs
in
cathedral
city
and
the
students
who
live
throughout
the
valley
who
work
in
palm
springs,
who
haven't
been
able
to
access
cod
in
that
time
and
I'll
just
say.
This
is
personal
to
me
because
I
know
of
family
friends
and
many
people
who've
had
to
drop
out
of
cod
because
they
can't
take
a
45
minute.
C
Bus
ride
from
palm
springs
to
palm
desert,
and
I
know
that
seems
it's
hard
to
imagine
that
burden,
but
really
we
do
have
a
huge
amount
of
need
and
equity
to
address
in
this
city
and
in
this
whole
western
coachella
valley.
So
could
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
that?
I
appreciate.
E
Your
question
and
I
highly
encourage
our
students
that
our
potential
students
that
live
in
palm
springs
to
attend
our
temporary
site,
we're
currently
offering
courses
there
and
are
glad
to
serve
you
in
a
facility,
that's
being
obviously
currently
utilized
to
offer
access
access
on-site
it's
located
on
bristol,
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
some
of
our
future
students
there,
like,
I
said
we're
offering
courses
now
and
we
encourage
students
who
experience
transportation
problems
to
contact
us,
we'll,
provide
additional
information
and
guide
them
to
that
specific
site
and
provide
details
in
regards
to
courses
that
are
being
offered
there.
C
C
So
I'll
just
say.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
commitment
to
regional
equity
to
the
students
of
the
coachella
valley.
I
know
we
all
want
the
same
thing
in
terms
of
addressing
the
access
to
education
and
making
sure
every
coachella
valley
student
has
access
to
cod
and
can
find
good
paying
jobs
and
careers
which
those
of
the
people
who
grew
up
in
this
community
know
are
just
too
hard
to
access,
and
you
know
you
heard
from
our
residents
people
calling
in.
C
I
think
that
this
is
actually
one
reason
I
ran
for
city
council,
so
I'll
just
take
a
minute
to
say,
there's
a
sense
that
palm
springs
has
incredible
wealth
and
we
do
have
some
residents
who
have
incredible
wealth,
but
I've
been
a
poverty
law
attorney
in
the
coachella
valley.
For
10
years,
I've
worked
in
coachella.
I've
worked
in
the
eastern
coachella
valley,
unincorporated
areas.
C
I've
worked
with
domestic
violence,
victims
in
palm
desert
throughout
and
palm
springs,
and
there
is
significant
poverty
and
need
in
this
valley
in
in
palm
springs
and
in
the
western
coachella
valley,
desert,
hot
springs,
and
so
we're
just
really
concerned
about
the
access
that
our
students
have
your
institution,
and
we
appreciate
you
working
with
us
on
that
to
to
alleviate
that
that
demand.
Thank
you.
N
Great
thank
you
for
being
here,
two
of
you
in
person
and
the
four
of
you
on
zoom
and
it's
great
that
we
can
make
a
hybrid
meeting
like
this
work
for
everyone,
so
the
need
for
more
technology.
Education
is
here
because
this
is
a
great
step
forward.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that.
N
N
You
know
speak
in,
and
I
appreciate
you
being
here
to
listen
to
that
as
well,
but
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
comments
about
you
know,
of
course,
transparency
or
decisions
being
made
out
of
the
public
view
in
closed
session.
I
really
want
to
give
you
an
opportunity.
N
You
know
to
respond
to
that
and
especially
sort
of
the
question
that
I
get
the
most
and
there
are
a
couple,
but
let
me
give
you
the
ones
I
get
the
most,
which
is.
How
was
the
decision
made
to
stop
the
design
work?
What
was
happening
on
the
west
valley
campus
in
palm
springs?
Who
made
it?
Where
was
it
made?
N
I
get
that
a
lot,
so
I
want
to
give
you
a
chance
to
respond
to
that,
and
I
don't
know
if
you
were
even
here
when
that
happened,
dr
garcia,
I
presume
the
two
trustees-
you
know
we're
probably
here.
So
whoever
is
the
best
person,
but
I
think
that
would
really
go
a
long
way
to
addressing
that
concern
that
you
heard
tonight
and
that
we
we
have
heard
quite
for
quite
some
time.
J
J
As
for
the
the
the
pausing
of
the
palm
springs
campus,
I
think
our
our
superintendent
president
may
be
best
suited
to
answer.
E
And
and
I'll
defer
to
mac,
because
obviously
there
were
decisions
that
were
made
prior
to
my
arrival.
So
can
you
share
on
I
I
understand
mac
from
our
discussions
that
definitely
covet
had
an
impact,
but
can
you
share
that
for
the
record
please.
L
Yeah
there's
a
number
of
reasons:
one,
you
know
we
a
minute
there's
a
change
in
administration
and
so
some
of
the
decisions
that
need
to
be
made
needed
to
be
made
by
or
what
the
the
district
wanted
to
be
made
by
the
new
president.
So
there
was
a
pause
I
mean
we
continue
working
a
bit
on
the
project,
but
there
were
times
when
we
had
to
have
direction
from
administration
so
and
we
were
in
the
pandemic
situation,
so
everybody
was
trying
to
adjust
to
that.
L
So
there
was
never
a
pause
to
decide
whether
not
whether
to
do
to
whether
to
do
the
project
or
not
to
do
the
project,
and
I
will
say
my
first
meeting
with
dr
garcia.
She
said
to
me
we're
committed
to
doing
that
palm
springs
campus
and
that's
all
she's
ever
said
to
me.
So
there
was
never
a
pause
to
decide
whether
to
do
it
or
not.
To
my
knowledge,
there
was
no
never
that.
N
No-
and
I
appreciate
that,
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
get
at
was
sort
of
what
we're
hearing,
which
is
and
whether
it
was
allowed
or
not
trust
you,
paris
point,
but
so
was
there
direction
in
closed
session
was
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
any
public
minutes
any
meetings,
and
so
people
are
asking
when
who
made
the
decision?
Was
it
a
staff
decision?
Was
it
board
direction?
Was
there
a
board
vote
so
we're
just
trying
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
understand.
N
So
we
can
let
the
public
and
the
media
answer
that,
because
that
has
been
a
question
we've
seen
in
the
media
as
well.
Maybe
trustee
yan
you,
you
may
have
more
information
because,
as
dr
garcia
explained,
she
wasn't
there
during
that
time.
Yet
when
that
was,
you
know,
put
on
hold.
E
Yes,
so,
like
I
stated
regarding
the
pause
related
to
covet,
that
happened
prior
to
me,
but
but
it
is
important
that
I
communicate
to
the
community
that
the
recommendation
for
additional
analysis
on
on
analysis
on
the
planning
came
from
me
that
when
I
realized
that
we
needed
additional
input
from
the
faculty
in
order
to
be
ready
to
move
forward,
to
submit
a
final
plan
to
dsa
that
that
obviously
recommendation
came
from
me
and
was
communicated
to
the
board.
E
And
therefore
that's
the
reasoning.
Why
you
see
and
have
the
opportunity,
if
you
have
not
seen
to
access
the
thorough
presentations
that
have
been
presented
to
the
board
and
will
continue
to
be
presented
in
a
public
manner.
Because
it
is
important
for
all
of
us
for
the
trustees
and
myself
that
you
all
have
access
to
thorough
information
that
is
being
communicated
publicly.
N
J
I
would
say
the
it
happened
during
the
the
interim
interim.
N
Okay,
thank
you
so
that
was
separate
from
the
board.
He
made
that
decision
and
just
informed
the
board
correct.
Okay.
I
appreciate
that.
That's
and
I
appreciate
what
you
had
to
say,
dr
garcia
sort
of
what
you
did
that
that's
helpful
and
a
couple
people
mentioned.
You
know
the
designs
and
we
saw
the
designs
today.
N
You
know
that
you
showed
and
we've
seen
that
some
other
meetings
and
other
times
in
the
newspaper
previously-
and
there
are
a
couple
comments
on
this
and
I
actually
watched
the
meeting
when
question
of
the
board
having
not
seen
them
and
the
interim
president.
Mr
baker
said
they
did.
J
N
Okay
same
for
you
trustee
john.
N
I
appreciate
that
you
know,
and
dr
garcia
knows,
because
I
invited
her
to
come
to
visit
greater
palm
springs,
where
I
chair
the
joint
power
authority,
the
government
side
of
of
that-
and
we
heard
from
someone
from
there
today
and
I
know
since
we
started
meeting
I
think,
late
november
last
year
you
know
we've
been
you
know
asking,
and
I
know
the
tourism
experts
who
have
a
lot
of
economic
analysis
have
been
asking.
N
You
know
how
we
can
work
work
together,
whether
it's
a
you
know,
a
committee.
You
know
to
provide
information.
I
think
the
city
managers
raised
that
at
all
of
our
meetings-
and
we
heard
today
that
you
know
the
tourism
industry
and
there
are
other
industries
as
well
right
who
are
the
experts.
They
know
what
the
markets
look
like
right
now.
N
You
can
get
data
as
well,
but
you
know,
obviously,
as
things
reopen
things
are
different
than
they
were
in
2020
when
a
lot
of
the
restaurants,
hotels
were
all
closed,
and
so
maybe
you
can
sort
of
share
because
you've
been
through
this
kind
of
process,
because
I
really
think
it's
sincere
and
I
think
you
know
that
we
want
to
partner
right.
We
want
to
be
helpful.
I
know
for
visit
greater
palm
springs.
N
They
want
to
be
able
to
provide
you
information
and
expertise,
and
I
know
a
lot
of
them
are
committed
right
now
to
seeing
the
number
of
folks
that
they
can
work
with.
I
know
that
scott
white,
the
ceo
reached
out
to
connect
you
with
some
of
the
hotel
programs
as
well
and
we've,
had
some
calls
with
some
very
successful
hospitality
schools
that
have
hands-on
learning,
which
I
think,
dr
garcia.
N
You
told
us
that
would
be
great
because
it's
a
first
right
that
in
the
community
college
in
california,
would
attract
students
to
want
to
do
that,
and
so
just
want
to
sort
of
follow
up
on
that
to
see.
Is
there
a
way
we
can
try
and
do
that.
So
we
have
that
partnership
because
then,
when
we
get
questions,
we
know
the
answers
as
well.
So
let
me
turn
that
over
to
you.
P
If
it's
a
nightmare
and
council,
it's
it's
not
every
day
that
community
colleges
have
these
wonderful
plans
to
expand.
It
just
so
happens
that
I've
been
through
one
very
similar
in
arizona
and
actually
it
was
very
similar
in
the
kind
of
community
conversation
we
see
taking
place
in
palm
springs
cathedral
city
in
the
west
valley,
as
well
one
of
the
things
that
was
a
real
game.
Changer
in
that
process
was
the
college
there
in
arizona
had
decided
to
create
a
committee
comprised
of
local
officials
and
local
stakeholders.
P
Some
of
those
were
residents
who
wanted
family
to
you
know
be
able
to
go
to
a
community
college.
Some
were
representing
industry
that
would
be
providing
the
jobs
for
some
of
those
individuals
and
to
clarify
it
was
certainly
a
conversation
about
expertise.
So
there
was
some
really
rich
conversation
actually
about
design
and
kind
of.
P
You
know
how
to
put
programs
on
the
ground,
but
it
was
more
of
a
way
to
change
the
community
conversation
from
one
that
we're
seeing
here
to
one
where
there
was
kind
of
a
richer
partnership,
a
seat
at
the
table,
so
to
speak.
To
be
part
of
the
conversation
happening
at
the
faculty
level,
in
that
instance,
the
college
had
been
taking
trips
to
best
practice.
P
So
I
should
make
council
aware
that,
without
getting
too
far
in
front
of
council,
I
had
proposed
something
like
that
to
dr
garcia
and
representatives
of
the
college
that
was
warmly
received.
They
expressed
gratitude
for
that
suggestion,
so
hopefully
that
makes
us
optimistic
that
such
a
thing
could
be
created,
but
I
also
realize
that
I
haven't
really
closed
the
loop
with
with
all
of
council,
and
so
it
would
be
a
good
idea.
P
I
think
this
evening,
if
you
think
such
a
proposal
should
continue
to
be
advanced
and
considered
by
the
college
that
you
may
want
to
weigh
in
on
that
this
evening,
and
I
can
answer
questions
or
expand
on
that.
But
I
think
you
get
the
basic
concept
of
changing
that
community
conversation
to
one
of
a
little
more.
You
know
hand-in-hand
partnership
in
conversation.
N
I
think,
dr
garcia,
you
wanted
to
say
something
on
that
as
well,
so
so.
E
I
definitely
appreciate
the
the
support
and
the
interest
in
collaborating
and
we
definitely
think
it's
a
great
idea,
we'll
have
a
discussion,
as
you
are
having
tonight,
city
manager,
clifton
with
our
board
as
well,
and
we'll
proceed
in
and
and
formulate
obviously
a
an
and
a
an
opportunity
to
receive
input
from
the
community,
specifically
from
our
experts.
E
I
would
like
to
add
that
for
the
community's
awareness
that
every
career
education
program
at
college
of
the
desert
currently
has
an
advisory
committee
that
is
made
up
of
industry
partners,
so
we
are
receiving
the
input.
However,
we
recognize
the
importance
of
of
your
suggestion
and
are
looking
forward
to
having
that
discussion
with
the
board
and
and
bringing
you
details
in
the
future
during
our
one-to-one
meetings.
Thank
you.
N
Great
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
and
just
from
visit
greater
palm
springs
hat
for
a
minute.
You
know
they
do
great
economic
studies.
They're
willing
to
you
know,
help
fund
studies
which
would
save
the
taxpayer
money
from
our
students,
and
I
think
it
could
just
be
a
really
good
partnership
and
their
support
for
that.
You
know
from
throughout
the
valley.
You
know
from
folks
there.
N
I
just
want
to
touch
on
one
thing,
because
sometimes
the
issue
of
you
know
regional
equity
comes
up
and
I
think
councilman
hostage
mentioned.
You
know
we
have
the
highest
levels
of
poverty
in
the
west
valley,
but
the
whole
valley
you
know,
is
right
up
is
in
that
high
levels
among
our
students,
but
just
for
the
public,
because
you
probably
have
this
data.
N
You
know,
there's
coding,
that's
done
for
all
school
districts
for
economically
disadvantaged
students
who
get
qualified
for
free
and
reduced
meals,
and
it's
and
all
the
numbers
are
awful
right.
Almost
59
percent
of
students
in
california
qualify
65.4
in
the
county
and
those
numbers
are
very
high.
It's
97.3
percent
in
palm
springs,
unified,
virtually
every
student,
and
they
now
provide
it
for
every
student.
N
So
there's
no
food,
shaming
who's
attending
schools
and
you
know
we're
talking
about
desert
hot
springs,
palm
springs,
cathedral
city
students
in
rancho
mirage
as
well,
and
some
unincorporated
are
economically
disadvantaged
and
so
the
challenge
for
them
to
get
to
school.
I
appreciate,
even
you
know,
coachella
next
indio.
N
It
still
is
hard
for
folks
when
they're
working
going
to
a
community
college
and
why,
I
think,
there's
so
much
importance
among
for
all
of
our
residents
in
the
west
valley
to
see
this
happen
and
appreciate
your
commitment
to
the
school,
and
you
know
when
you
look
at
our
nine
cities.
N
If
you'd
you
know,
divide
it
into
east,
west
and
central
population's
about
the
same
in
all
three
regions-
and
you
know
one
of
the
slides
talks
about
60
of
the
bond
money
from
2016
being
allocated
for
the
west
valley
campus,
and
there
were
some
comments
that
that
was
wrong
and
needed
to
be
changed
and
was
unfair,
but
really
that
was
promised
in
2004
as
well.
N
N
You
know
this
great
campus
in
palm
desert.
That's
great!
Personally,
I'm
glad
to
see
the
expansion
in
india
happening.
That's
great,
but
the
west
valley
is
still
with
some
modular
units
in
in
the
three
cities
and
that's
what
we
all
want
to
work
with
you
as
you
move
forward
to
change
that,
because
I
know-
and
I
can
look
at
trustee
for
us
directly.
We
all
care
and
we've
talked
about
in
our
meetings.
We
want
to
help
our
students.
We
want
to
help
lift
those
in
poverty
out
of
poverty.
N
We
want
them
to
get
good
paying
jobs
and
that's
what
we're
all
in
this
for.
So
we
really
welcome
your
being
here
and
we
really
want
to
partner
and
work
together
in
the
best
way
possible
to
make
this
happen
and
as
quickly
as
possible.
Of
course,
so
we
don't
have
more
high
school
graduates,
not
having
that
opportunity.
J
N
Q
Yeah,
thank
you.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
thank
you
for
being
here.
It's
really
appreciated
and
thanks
for
the
work
that
you
do
for
a
large
number
of
people
in
the
valley
to
get
an
education
or
to
move
on
even
to
higher
education,
whether
it
be
a
vocational
training
or
whatnot.
I
don't
want
to
repeat
everything
that
council,
member,
coors
or
council
member
holster
said,
but
I
think
their
statistics
are
very
good
and
they're
very
powerful
on
why
we
need
a
campus
here,
also,
the
industry
that
we
have
here.
Q
You
know
and
training
our
residents
to
go
into
that
industry
is
very
important.
I
wanted
to
add
one
thing
that
neither
of
them
brought
up,
and
that
is
that
you
know
we
also
the
school
district
at
cod
goes
on
the
other
side
of
the
banning
pass
and
brings
kids
in
and
for
them
to
travel,
even
another
30
minutes
to
a
campus.
You
know
it's
cost
prohibitive
and
there's
not
that
much
transportation
between
that
past.
We're
working
on
that
with
the
train.
You
know,
there's
a
bus,
but
it's
important
to
have
something
you
know.
Q
30
minutes
is
a
lot
of
extra
commute
time
between
india
and
and
palm
springs.
I
was
really
glad
to
hear-
and
I
hope,
president
garcia,
that
we
do
look
at
a
collaboration.
I
think
the
city's
put
forward
one
option
for
that,
and
do
you
have
another
option
that
you
might
like
to
propose
at
this
time
or
what
is
your
because
you
talked
about
collaboration
trustee
perez
and
I
didn't
know
what
that
looked
like
to
you
sure.
J
Q
The
other
question
I
had,
I
think
that
I'm
getting
is
obviously
a
lot
of
money
was
spent
on
the
design
of
the
campus,
which
included
this
learning
hotel
to
stop
the
project
by
this
interim
city
manager
or
the
interim
president,
I
think
you
talked
about,
is
a
huge
financial
decision,
because
your
architecture
for
all
of
that
has
been
completed
right
so
now,
you're
going
to
have
to
have
a
huge.
If
I'm
understanding
correctly,
if
you
do
this
study,
you
may
actually
have
to
re-look
at
the
campus
completely.
Is
that
correct.
L
Okay,
we
do
have
site
plans
and-
and
things
like
that,
so
but
that's
why
we're
taking
a
pause
to
study
what
we
need
to
do
if
you
saw,
I
said
you
know
we're
going
to
study,
should
we
move
the
culinary
arts
project
into
the
accelerator
or
leave
it
out
we're
looking
at
other
programs,
we're
talking
about
an
architecture
program,
we're
talking
about
some
other
things
that
might
be
included
in
this,
but
this
is
the
time
to
do
it
during
schematic
design.
L
Q
Q
Right
right,
exactly
the
so
good,
we
can
collaborate,
it's
going
to
cause
a
redesign
of
the
campus.
I
personally
think
that
the
citizens
of
of
of
the
valley
and-
and
you
know,
of
the
valley
and
as
a
whole-
I
think
an
architecture
program
is
absolutely
lacking
here
and
and
it's
such
an
important
part
of
what
drives
part
of
our
tourism
market,
not
just
hospitality
but
architecture,
and
to
create
those
architects.
I
think
it's
important
to
have
that
opportunity
for
people
there,
as
well
as
the
hospitality
and
the
learning
facility.
Q
You
know,
I
know
you're
wearing
a
pause
and
I
know
you've
tried
to
get
a
timeline
for
getting
out
of
that
pause.
I
was
a
little
alarmed
at
some
of
the
other
comments
from
other
trustees
about
what
the
purpose
is
of
a
community
college,
and
I
think
some
of
the
comments
were
brought
up
tonight.
So
I
looked
up
the
purpose
you
know
in
the
education
code
and
vocational
training
is
one
of
those
things.
Q
That's
you
know,
that's
right
in
you
know
the
california
constitution
or
the
california
code.
So
to
hear
trusty
say
that
is
disconcerting
to
a
lot
of
residents.
I'm
about
that.
So
just
you
know
I
don't
I
don't.
I
hate
the
trustees
to
kind
of
get
it
off
base
in
any
way
and
stick
to
its
primary
purpose.
Of
what
it's
supposed
to
do,
which
is
you
know.
Part
of
its
thing
is,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
person
in
the
audience
for
some.
Q
Q
They
invite
the
community
in
you
know
it's
a
public
space
for
a
lot
of
people
concerts
and
whatnot,
and
other
community
colleges
wall
off
the
surrounds
of
it
right
and
it
looks
like
a
shopping
mall,
and
I
would
certainly
hate
for
that
kind
of
urban
form
to
happen
in
a
city
that
is
so
proud
of
its
architecture.
So
I
just
ask
you
to
keep
that
in
mind
again.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
A
Q
I
So
to
answer
some
of
the
councilmember
course
questions.
The
last
public
meeting
with
community
members
was
with
the
selection
of
the
architectural
firm
and
matt
can
confirm
that
that
was
in
the
summer
of
2020.,
so
that
helps
with
it
and
the
last
presentation
to
the
board
was
in
the
summer
2021.
A
Thank
you
a
couple
of
questions,
I'd
like
to
follow
up
on
and
I'll
start
right
with
the
timeline,
it's
perfectly
understandable
that
when
new
leadership
comes
in
that,
you
would
want
to
take
a
look
at
a
major
capital
project
set,
but
between
that
review,
the
pause,
as
it's
being
referred
to
and
the
pause
that
was
apparently
necessitated
due
to
covid.
Do
you
have
a
estimate
of
how
much
time
has
been
lost
from
what
would
have
been
the
original
completion
date
that
would
be
estimated?
A
Had
we
continued
on
based
on
the
schematic
drawings
that
were
being
worked
on
back
when
all
of
this
got
paused.
L
Well,
I
haven't
discussed
this
with
college
administration.
Obviously,
but
there
are
steps
during
construction
that
you
can.
You
know
expedite
things
to
to
shorten
the
construction
schedule.
There's
always
opportunities
there,
there's
a
other
opportunities
in
the
design
process,
making
decisions
quickly
and
stuff
like
that.
So
there
are
opportunities.
L
Going
to
look
at
purchasing-
maybe
materials
early,
you
know,
so
we
have
to
wait
on
that.
I
mean
this
labor
market
and
and
material.
I
mean
it's
really
a
challenge
so.
A
So
I
think
all
of
us
have
looked
at
any
projects
being
built,
know
that
that's
that
exists,
the
capital
that
they
have
over
there
for
the
new
sports
arena
is
pretty
substantial,
but
we
are
seeing
evidence
of
how
quickly,
under
some
circumstances,
folks
can
move
and
anything
that
we
can
do
to
aid
picking
up
time.
We
know
you
want
to
act
responsibly,
but
we
also
want
to
be
helpful
partners
in
making
up
for
some
lost
time.
A
All
right
a
question
for
you
in
all
of
the
years
that
we've
been
involved
in
this
project,
is
there
anything
that
cod
has
asked
of
the
city
council
in
palm
springs
that
you've
not
received.
J
A
We
want
to
remain
that
good
partner,
so
we're
committing
to
work
with
you
and
if
there
is
something
that
you
need
get
on
the
phone
with
us
and
and
we
will
work
with
you
on
it,
I
think
the
city
manager
outlined
a
very
collegial
type
of
process
for
bringing
the
parties
together,
and
that
will
be
helpful
in
restoring
confidence
that
we
are
getting
back
on
track.
That
confidence
as
all
of
us
in
public
service
know.
A
Let
me
do
you
wanna.
I
was.
A
345
million
dollars
now
that's
been
allocated,
as
I
understand
for
the
west
valley
campus,
and
is
that,
based
on
a
capital
budget
that
you've
been
able
to
map
out
that
you
know
this
is
what
it
is
going
to
cost
us.
Or
is
that
much
more,
a
broad
estimate
as
to
what
you
have
the
ability
to
commit,
but
tell
me
a
little
bit
of
how
you
got
that
to
345
million
dollars.
L
Well,
it's
through
the
design
process,
the
programming
and
design
process.
You
know
we
started
out
at
300
million
and
as
we
were
designing
it
got
it
matter
of
fact
it
got
over
500
million
with
the
hotel
and
and
all
of
that
stuff,
because
there
were
some
grand
ideas
about
the
hotel
we
had
to
scale
all
of
that
back
and
matter
of
fact.
L
At
a
time
you
know,
prices
were
escalating
like
crazy,
so
we
had
to
pull
a
lot
of
it
back
and
say:
okay,
what
are
we
doing
and
that's
why
we
talked
about
a
phased
approach?
Maybe
we
could
do
phase
one
then
maybe
phase
two,
possibly
even
a
phase
three.
So
right.
A
Good
any
I'm
gonna
ask
one
last
question
for
me:
is
the
west
valley
campus
going
to
be
built.
J
Yes,
will
you
have
our
commitment
all
right?
Thank
you.
N
I
have
one
more
I
just
remembered.
You
know,
I
think
we
we
talked
about
this
in
march
for
those
of
us
for
dr
garcia,
trustee
perez
and
council
member
holster
chennai
and
the
city
manager
about
trying
to
get
some
some
documents,
and
you
know
I
think
dr
garcia
and
the
city
manager
talked
about
doing
it
through
a
pra.
N
A
public
records
act
request,
so
there's
a
record
of
it,
so
the
public
could
see-
and
I
know,
there's
some
documents
just
like
the
contract
with
cambridge
or
what
the
what's
exactly
in
it
that
we've
you
know
been
asking
for,
and
I
just
if
we
can
get
an
update
for
where
we
are
and
figure
out.
If
there's
a
way
we
could
expedite
some
of
that.
So
the
public
has
you
know
that
information?
You
know
the
stuff.
That's
on
your
website.
N
Of
course
they
have
that,
and
trustee
has
added
shared
some
of
what
was
on
the
website.
I
don't
know
if
that's
our
city
attorney
or
would
sort
of
know
the
status
sort
of
when
that
we
got
when
we
finally
got
the
letter
in
how
long
that
took
and
just
sort
of
where
we
are
in
timing
and
maybe
see
what
we
can
do
to
try.
And
you
know
expedite
that
process.
M
According
to
our
outside
counsel,
who
submitted
the
pra
request
and
has
been
monitoring
the
responses,
the
city
has
really
only
received
about
three
or
four
documents
that
are
not
otherwise
available
on
the
district's
website.
In
response
to
our
and
that's
in
response
to
the
city's
december,
8th
2021
pra
request.
N
E
So
I'll
all
confirm,
I
was
under
the
assumption
that
you
have
received
an
extensive
amount
of
documents,
but
I'll
confirm,
obviously
with
the
person
that
I
have
in
charge
on
site
and
with
the
attorney
who's,
also
working
with
that
person.
Okay,
so
I
appreciate
you
bringing
it
up.
Yes,
I.
N
Appreciate
that-
and
I
think
you
know
especially
things
around
the
study
that
you're
doing
now,
because
that'll
help
us
really
provide
input,
even
if
you
know
during
this
whole
time
period,
you
know
that
we
can
give
input
based
on
data
we
may
have
access
or
others
may
have.
Access
to
that
can
help
inform
the
work.
You're
doing
would
be
really
helpful
for
us.
Thank.
E
You,
and,
and
in
regards
to
the
cambridge
west
contract
frankly,
that
that
will
make
sure
we
that
it's
submitted
tomorrow.
N
C
You
I'm
sorry,
I
just
had
a
follow-up
question.
I
think
for
mac,
for
what
you
stated.
So
you
talked
about
phase
one
and
phase
two
and
possibly
phase
three.
So
could
you
just
describe
so
I
think
you
said
phase
one
will
be
completed
in
2026..
Is
that
right?
Do
you
have
an
estimate
for
timing
about
when
the
entire
project
could
be
completed.
L
C
Are
there
any
what
guarantees
can
we
tell
our
community?
You
know
about
because
I
think
when
you
say
the
project's
paused,
the
project's
scaled
back,
it's
one
thing
to
make
a
commitment,
but
really
the
timelines
are
important
right
to
know
when
those
commitments
will
happen
and,
after
you
know,
25
years
of
of
waiting
for
a
campus
in
the
western
coachella
valley.
I
L
I
don't
know
about
the
other
phases,
yet
a
phase
one
seems
to
have
support
of
the
district
to
move
forward.
So
after
that,
I'm
sure
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
discussions
about
what
phase
two
is
what
it
looks
like
how
much
time
it's
going
to
take
and
all
of
that.
C
Thank
you.
That
would
be,
I
think,
the
the
fear
is
that
we've
received
promises
about
shovels
and
ground
in
the
ground
by
2022,
and
then
you
know
it's
scary,
to
hear
about
2026
and
then
you
know,
potentially
later
for
especially
two-thirds
of
the
project
or
a
large
portion
of
the
project.
C
Thank
you
and
then
mac.
You
said
the
delay
or
the
pause
for
the
reason
that
it's
phased
for
the
hotel
project
is
the
concern
about
the
use
of
the
bond
money
and
needing
legal
advice
and
analysis
of
that.
Is
that
what
you
said.
L
Not
just
that
our
ability
to
draw
down
the
funds-
and
I
think
dr
ramon
can
speak
to
that.
M
M
The
way
the
bond
schedule
was
projected
out
the
most
recent
estimates
that
we
have,
that
we
would
be
having
issuance
is
going
all
the
way
out
to
2029.
and
the
main
reason
for
that
is
it's.
M
It's
kind
of
a
simple
thing
that
you
know
when
we
borrow
money
as
we
borrow
money,
the
taxpayers
are
obligated
to
pay
it
back
and
we
made
a
promise
to
the
the
taxpayers
that
for
measure
cc
it
would
the
the
taxes
would
not
exceed
twenty
dollars
per
hundred
thousand
value
valuation
measure
b
was
twenty
five
dollars
per
hundred
thousand,
which
made
a
combined
total
not
to
exceed
forty
five
dollars
per
hundred
thousand
valuation,
and
so
it's
we
have
to
do
our
issuances
in
phases
over
time
so
that
we
honor
that
and
that's
affected.
N
M
M
Affect
that
timing,
but
the
the
most
recent
estimate
I
have
is,
we
would
do
our
the
the
earliest
we
could
do.
A
final
drawdown
would
be
in
2029.
C
So
could
you
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
cod's
plans
for
that
site,
and
you
know
what
you
might
do
moving
forward,
considering
the
city
paid
two
million
dollars
and
gifted
that
to
cod
knowing
and
expecting
that
there
would
be
a
college
campus
built
there
to
do
economic
development
and
access
to
education
in
that
community.
Specifically,
so
I.
J
I
think
we're
limited
in
what
it
is
that
we
can
say
publicly
about
that,
but
I
do
want
to
reiterate
the
commitment
that,
once
we
do
sell
that
property
in
north
palm
springs
all
that
money,
that's
used
that
we
get
from
that
property
is
going
to
be
in
turn
paying
for
the
the
palm
springs
development
project,
the
moss
site.
A
In
and
I
know
there
are
going
to
be
limitations
on
what
you
can
say,
but
but
there
is
a
very
strong
desire
to
see
affordable
housing
built
in
the
area
north
of
the
desert
island
community,
and
I
encourage
you,
as
you
are
talking
with
potential
buyers,
to
ensure
that
it
is
truly
affordable
housing
that
is
contemplated.
Q
I
just
need
a
little
clarity,
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
and
I'm
sorry
about
that.
If
I'm
confused,
I'm
sure
others
are
confused,
you
went
through
a
schematic
process.
You
spent
a
ton
of
money
doing
the
schematics
right.
You
now
have
moved
into
this
study
that
you
want
to
do
to
see
what
you
need
all
the
criteria,
but
now
you're
talking
about
phase
one.
Is
that
designed
already?
Q
L
No,
the
schematic's
not
out
the
window,
we're
going
to
utilize
as
much
as
as
much
of
that
as
we
can
schematic
design
is
happens
right
after
programming
programming.
Is
you
find
out?
You
know
the
needs
of
spaces
and
things
like
that
programs
and
then
schematic
design.
You
start
designing
something
to
incorporate
all
of
that.
So
with
the
change
with
you
know,
with
the
funding
challenge
and
stuff
like
that,
we
were
only
about
30
percent,
because
we
have
to
draw
back
about
30
percent,
complete
with
schematic
design.
L
We
went
up
to
to
about
50
or
even
60
percent,
but
we
had
to
draw
back
because
of
the
changes
we
never
finalized,
anything
on
the
hotel
or
the
villas,
or
anything
like
that.
It
was
still
very
much
in
flux,
but
on
the
accelerator
project
which
we
were
focusing
on
because
that's
the
building
that
teaches
the
students.
We
were
a
little
bit
further
along
on
that
and
we
were
given
direction,
focus
on
that,
because
that
was
going
to
be
the
phase
one
project.
Q
So
I'm
still
very
confused
and
I'll
give
you
you're
doing
this
study
to
see
what's
needed.
Is
that
correct,
what's
needed
at
the
campus?
As
far
as
programming
goes.
L
The
feasibility
study
is
something
like
dr
garcia
said:
it
studies,
demographics
studies,
traffic
patterns,
studies,
transportation,
it
studies
a
number
of
things,
including
cost
of
ownership,
because
building
that's
easy.
But
how
are
you
going
to
maintain
it
over
here?
L
So
we're
trying
to
get
all
that
information
now
most
of
what
we're
getting
may
or
may
not
change
the
design
right
now
it
looks
like
we're
trying
to
go
through
an
exercise
to
see
if
we
can't
fit
the
the
programs
that
we
have
into
the
building
we
have,
but
we're
not
we're
not
there
yet
so
we're
studying
that
so
that
we
don't
have
to
go
through
a
redesign
process.
L
L
I
don't
think
the
the
program
is
changing
no,
but
we
may
have
to
because
remember
in
the
presentation
I
said
we're
studying
whether
we
can
take
the
culinary
arts
program
and
put
it
inside
the
cell
accelerator
or
leave
it
out.
So
we're
studying
those
things
we'll
bring
it
in
some
of
the
things
would
have
to
change,
but
if
we
leave
it
out
and
we
may
not
have
to
change
it
so
much
you
mean.
L
Leave
it
out
incorporating
within
the
accelerator
building,
which
was
the
larger
building,
so
the
culinary
project
was
a
smaller
building.
We
were
looking
at
if
we
incorporated
in
the
building,
we're
studying
to
see
if
that's
beneficial
or
leaving
it
separate
so
again,
we're
just
now
studying
that.
Q
So
there's
it
seems
to
me
that
there's
two
components
there's
the
programming:
what
does
the
community
need,
what
it
you
know
and
you're
doing
that
study
and
then
there's
the
physical
build
out
of
the
campus
to
meet
that
need
right,
right
and
you've.
This
is
obviously
we've
gone
through
a
very
long
process.
We've
heard
tonight
many
many
years
to
get
where
we're
at
we've
spent
millions
of
dollars
to
get
where
we're
at
so
what's
the
next
steps
are
you're
gonna
do
this
study,
but
you
know
you
really.
Q
L
Like
I
said,
the
studies
focused
on
those
those
items
that
I
described
so
right
now,
what
we're
doing
we're,
having
meetings
right
now
with
the
faculty,
as
dr
tafoya
said,
to
include
some
of
the
faculty
input
that
wasn't
included
before,
because
the
programs
have
changed
so
we're
going
through
that
we're
not
sitting
waiting
for
the
study,
we're
moving
forward
with
meetings
and
and
planning.
Q
Okay,
and-
and
so
I
think
you
know
just
I
take
it
back
to
trustee
perez-
you
know
that's.
We
would
like
to
be
part
of
that.
You
know
we'd
like
to
be
part
of
that
process
and
I
don't
think
we're
part
of
that.
You
know
by
by
us
I
mean
the
city
of
palm
springs,
part
of
that
process,
and
you
know
our
committees
and
our
residents.
So
but
you
know
it's
it's
it's
confusing
as
to
what's
really
going
on
and
I
think
if
we
can
clarify
that
it
would
be
much
better.
K
Thank
you.
Yes,
I
I'd
like
to
hit
it
from
a
more
lay
person
perspective,
the
idea
that
we
are
throwing
away.
What
has
already
been
planned
is
inaccurate.
We
are
not
throwing
away.
That's
why
we
shared
with
you
the
designs
up
to
this
point
when
we're
talking
about
the
feasibility
we're
not
talking
about
starting
from
scratch,
we
know
that
there
was
information
that
supported
what
was
currently
planned.
What
we're
saying
is
that
that
information
was
primarily
from
2016.
K
were
affirming
and
then
in
the
conversations
about
finalizing.
The
design
is
conversations,
like
mr
mcginnis
said,
is
that
we
had
a
culinary
arts
building.
That
was
a
freestanding
building,
so
when
he
was
saying
leave
it
out,
he
doesn't
mean
not
build
culinary.
He
meant.
Is
it
going
to
be
included
in
what
the
accelerator
building
is
or
is
it
left
freestanding,
not
leave
it
out
like
we're
not
building?
K
So
that's
the
parts
that
we're
having
conversations
about
this
is
where
we're
bringing
in
the
feasibility
information
to
confirm
items
like
that,
so
getting
feedback
from
our
faculty
staff
and
students,
as
well
as
getting
the
information
updated
information
about
like
we
talked
about
demographics,
etc,
etc.
To
see
what
should
we
do?
In
conversations
like
that,
I
think
that
if
you
look
at
the
proposed
phase,
one
that
was
in
the
presentation,
the
easiest
way
to
look
at
it
is
that
phase.
One
is
the
southern
half
of
the
plans.
K
The
details
are
primarily
what
goes
inside
the
building
and
how
much
space
is
allotted
each
program
versus
like
not
building
a
building
or
greatly
changing
the
configuration
of
a
building
in
terms
of
its
footprint.
Q
You
know,
I
think
that
helps
a
lot
of
people.
Thank
you
very,
very
much,
but
so
what
was
presented
those
schematics
to
a
lot
of
the
residents
through
this
long
several
year
process
will
still
likely
happen.
Is
it
what
I'm
hearing.
K
K
K
The
planning
that
was
that
was
done
prior
is
what
we're
using
moving
forward.
What
we're
all
we're
trying
to
say
is
that
we
are
making
sure
that
we're
not
just
taking
those
plans
and
saying,
okay,
everything
is
the
same.
We're
going
to
move
forward,
we're
saying
we're
looking
at
it
step
by
step
and
making
sure
also
that
all
of
our
internal
stakeholders
also
have
access
to
give
direct
input
on
the
spaces
that
they're
going
to
be
expected
to
use,
and
what
we
were
hearing
is
that
there
were
gaps
in
those
conversations
to
some
degree.
Q
Q
The
buildings,
what
they
look
like
the
architecture,
the
site
plan
that
has
been
presented
and
worked
on
programming
is
different.
I
understand
the
feasibility
for
programming.
Is
that
what
we're
going
to
see
in
the
city
that
I'm
just
curious.
L
Well,
I
let
me
if
I
can,
the
schematics
that
you
saw
were
never
complete
and
they've
never
been
presented
to
the
board
for
approval.
So
a
matter
of
fact
we
were
in
discussions
when
we
did
the
pause.
We
were
in
discussion
with
the
architect
that
they
need
to
work
on
the
architecture,
because
some
of
the
stuff
I
mean,
are
pretty
pictures,
but
some
of
the
stuff
doesn't
work,
and
so
we
have
to
continue
through
that
process.
Q
A
One
of
the
comments
that
was
made
was
that
you
are
in
conversations
with
marriott
and
the
hilton
as
potential
partners
for
the
learning
hotel
does.
Can
I
interpret
that
to
mean
that
you
have
a
commitment
to
the
learning
hotel.
E
Definitely
exploring
the
options
available
to
obviously
reiterate
that
there's
a
commitment
we
are
we're
committed
and
we're
going
to
try
to
find
a
way
to
make
this
happen.
Obviously,
I'm
appreciative
of
the
tremendous
interest
and
the
expression
of
support
and
look
forward
to
working
with
potential
future
partners
in
this
endeavor.
E
Think,
yes,
yes,
we're
gonna,
obviously
we're
committed.
We
have
to
find
a
way
to
do
be
able
to
do
this
in
a
legal
manner
and
looking
forward
to
working
with
our
partners.
E
A
Is
there
any
further
questions
or
comments
from
council?
Dr
garcia,
chair
perez
anything
further
that
you
would
like
to
say.
J
Well,
I
I
would
just
like
to
thank
the
city
council
for
allowing
us
to
be
here
tonight.
The
members
of
the
palm
springs
community,
the
greater
palm
springs
community.
Thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
be
here
tonight.
We're
looking
forward
to
working
with
you.
We're
committed
to
making
this
project
come
to
fruition
in
palm
springs,
all
right.
A
So
with
that,
we
have
concluded
the
conversation
that
was
planned
this
evening
around
the
college
of
the
desert.
It's
eight
o'clock
we've
been
sitting
here
for
about
two
and
a
half
hours.
Let's
take
a
ten
minute
break
when
we
resume
for
those
of
you
who
are
in
the
public,
we
will
resume
with
the
normal
agendas
going
moving
back
to
public,
to
acceptance
of
the
agenda
and
then
to
public
comment
on
items
not
related
to
cod,
but
on
the
agenda.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
We
will
reconvene
the
city
council
meeting.
The
next
item
is
presentations
which
we
have
none
this
evening.
We
will
now
move
on
to
acceptance
of
the
agenda.
Our
item
is
acceptance
of
the
agenda.
The
city
council
will
discuss
the
order
of
the
agenda,
may
amend
the
order,
add
urgency,
items,
note,
abstentions
or
no
votes
on
consent,
calendar
items
or
requests
can
send
calendar
items
be
removed
for
a
separate
discussion.
I
would
like
to
entertain
a
motion
to
accept
the
agenda.
P
J
A
B
H
It's
a
little
difficult
for
me
to
get
up
and
mute
the
my
computer,
oh
good,
I've
got
it
okay,
two
items:
I
wanted
to
comment
on
the
housing
contract
and
just
a
few
items
that
are
missing.
We
really
need
nexus
studies
and
we
need
an
inclusionary
housing
program.
H
H
There
are
two
items
that
were
discussed:
whether
or
not
boulders
and
crescendo
and
palm
hills
should
be
included,
and
we
should
be
looking
at
them
for
arena
numbers.
We
absolutely
should
not
those
those
serve
the
community
right
now,
as
open
space
planning.
H
Commission
didn't
take
action
on
classifications
of
those
because
we
thought
that
was
a
city
council
purview,
but
we
can
find
you
know
if
if
those
those
three
properties
are
converted
to
open
space,
we
can
find
ways
of
meeting
the
state's
requirements
in
terms
of
replacing
lost
potential
housing
units
in
other
locations,
and
that
really
should
be
done.
We
should
not.
We
should
not
be
looking
at
those
parcels
in
terms
of
our
arena
numbers
and
our
overall
allocations.
H
B
H
H
We
are
requesting
that
boulders
and
crescendo
be
designated
as
open
space
and
definitely
not
upzoned
and
counted
in
the
arena
numbers.
When
the
planning
commission
had
one
of
its
original
meetings
regarding
the
general
plan,
land
use
and
housing
element
plenty.
Commissioners
specifically
asked
flynn
if
boulders
in
crescendo
could
be
rezoned
as
open
space,
and
he
stated
I
quote
that
boulders
in
crescendo
was
not
included
in
the
housing
numbers
and
they
could
designate
them
as
open
space
because
it
meets
the
no
net
loss
provisions
of
sp
330
from
2018..
H
Now
I
know
in
the
past
we
have
asked
the
city
to
donate
these
two
properties
for
conservation,
but
we
are
now
in
a
position
thanks
to
our
new
grant
writer,
to
work,
obtaining
grants
to
purchase
these
properties
from
the
cities
and
if
boulders
and
crescendo
is
designated
as
open
space,
it
increases
our
ability
to
be
successful
in
obtaining
the
grants
to
purchase
these
properties.
So
please
consider
designating
them
as
open
space,
and
we
assure
you
that
we
will
be
committed
to
begin
the
work
on
the
grant
immediately
after
they
are
changed
to
open
space.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Next
item
that
I
would
like
to
move
to
with
the
consent
to
the
rest
of
the
council
is
to
engage
the
discussion
with
mr
j.r
roberts
on
the
plaza
theater.
F
Thank
you,
mayor,
councilman
korres
did
you
want
to
speak
first
on
this
or
I'll
jump
right
in
so?
First
of
all,
I'm
very
happy
to
report
to
you
that
some
projects
will
start
much
sooner
than
2026
and
will
be
completed
much
sooner
than
that
and
one
of
those
things
will
be
our
very
own,
plaza
theater.
F
So
tonight,
obviously
you
are
looking
at
the
final
contract
or
donor
agreement
between
our
largest
owner
david
lee
in
the
city
for
his
great
donation
of
five
million
dollars
to
the
plaza
theater,
which
obviously
took
us
light
years
ahead
in
our
fundraising.
Well,
I'm
very
excited
to
be
here
tonight
to
give
you
some
new
information.
F
So
last
week
I
met
with
a
new
donor
who
would
like
to
remain
anonymous
right
now,
but
they
have
decided
to
give
us
and
pledge
2
million
dollars
to
complete
the
two
million
dollar
matching
dollars
that
were
part
of
the
david
seaweed
donation.
So
originally
david
c,
yes,
for
that,
david
c
lee
had
given
us
five
million
with
two
of
those
million
being
matching
funds.
F
We
have
now
fulfilled
that
one
little
caveat
this
new
donor,
who
we're
now
referring
to
as
donor
two
for
the
time
being,
is
challenging
the
city
to
match
his
donation,
and
so
all
I
can
do
at
this
point
is
leave
that
with
you.
So
we
have
two
million
dollars
on
the
table
that
we
can.
That
will
fulfill
one
matching,
but
now
challenges
us
to
another:
two
million
dollars
of
city
matching
dollars.
F
I'm
also
very
happy
to
report
that,
with
the
help
of
councilman
coors,
who
is
the
liaison
to
the
theater
foundation
and
the
mayor
we
have
been
working
with
the
state
of
california,
and
the
state
of
california
is
very
familiar
with
us
and
the
theater
and
is
looking
at
funding
a
few
million
dollars
as
well,
so
we'll
cross
our
fingers
for
that.
We'll
keep
working
on
that
and
I
don't
think
I
could
give
you
any
better
news
than
that
tonight.
F
A
Jared
just
one
question
for
the,
and
mostly
for
the
public,
that
rate
brings
to
potentially
seven
million
dollars
in
committed
funds.
What
what's
your
estimated
total
budget
at
this
point.
F
Well,
you
know
we're
we're
going
after
between
10
and
12
million
dollars.
Although
I've
had
the
project
professionally
bid
by
a
local
architect
that
the
city
has
worked
with.
I'm
sorry,
a
local
contractor
that
we've
worked
with
a
number
of
times
a
number
of
times,
dw
johnson.
The
bids
are
actually
coming
in
less
than
the
original
gensler
projections,
but
we
would
still
like
to
continue
to
to
go
ahead
and
raise
10
to
12
million
dollars,
simply
because
the
worst
case
scenario
is
that
we
leave
an
endowment
behind
for
the
theater
the
goal.
F
One
of
the
many
goals
for
the
restoration
of
the
theater
is
that
it
not
tax
taxpayers
that
it
not
take
taxpayers
dollars
and
that
it
can
sustain
itself
that
it
can
break
even
and
if
we
can
leave
a
nice
endowment
behind
as
it
needs
repairs
over
the
next
80
years
of
its
life.
Those
dollars
could
be
there
to
do
that.
Work.
A
With
that-
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
this
correctly-
we
can
address
a
diet
item
3b,
which
is
the
gift
term
sheet,
and
the
amount
of
5
million
dollars
for
david
lee
restoration
of
the
palm
springs
plaza
theater.
Are
there
any
questions
or
comments
from
council.
A
This
is
an
action
item.
We
will
need
a
motion
to
approve
in
a
second.
A
With
that
I'd
like
to
move
on
to
the
consent
calendar.
The
next
item
is
the
consent
calendar.
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
accept
the
count:
consent
calendar
without
items.
One
h
removed
one
b,
remove
for
separate
discussion
and
recusal
of
council
member
hostage
on
1k.
A
Item
1b,
we
have
removed
for
separate
discussion
council
member
woods.
You
asked
for
that
item
removed.
Do
you
want
a
staff
report
or
is
there
something
you
you'd
like
to
comment
on.
Q
I
don't
think
we
need
a
formal
staff
report.
This
is
a
request
by
the
arts
commission
for
55
thousand
dollars
to
create
a
mural
in
one
of
our
parking
garages,
and
I
have
been
working
prior
to
the
pandemic
and
during
the
pandemic,
with
the
staff
on
a
downtown
parking
plan
and
a
downtown
wayfinding
plan
for
the
city
of
palm
springs,
to
get
people
off
the
streets
and
into
our
garages
and
use
our
underutilized
parking
spaces.
Q
So
they
are
looking
to
paint
a
parking
garage.
What
I
might
suggest
is
that
we
don't
approve
it
right
now,
but
we
ask
the
arts
commission
to
work
with
our
staff
on
the
design
of
some
of
the
parking
structure
stuff
and
having
an
art
component
as
part
of
it
at
this
point,
so
that
it
the
the
two
will
work
together.
The
art
commission
probably
has
no
idea
what
we
were
doing.
Q
Q
So
I
guess
my
motion
would
be
to
to
not
approve
it
at
this
point,
but
to
direct
staff
and
the
arts
commission
to
work
with
staff
on
our
overall
parking
program,
which
I
think
a
lot
of
people
in
the
community
want.
S
Council
members,
it
sounds
like
this
can
be
bifurcated
and,
as
you
know,
each
of
the
public
art
commission
requests
to
use
funding
must
come
back
to
the
city
council
for
approval
and,
as
indicated
in
the
staff
report,
any
ultimate
design
will
also
come
back
to
the
city
council
for
staff.
Approval
could
be
separately
so
piecemeal
as
each
project
is
approved,
and
your
recommendation
is
a
great
one.
S
I
agree
with
it
and
and
would
bring
that
to
the
public
arts
commission,
but
if
we
could
approve
the
funding
for
this
project,
that
may
prove
to
be
beneficial
as
we
approve
and
get
down
the
road
to
approve
the
actual
designs
that
are
going
up,
which
would
undergo
the
regular
process
of
permits
from
the
planning
department.
Public
hearing
through
the
public
arts,
commission
and
final
approval
by
the
city
council.
Q
So
if
I
understand
you
correctly,
you're
saying
approve
the
funding,
but
we
really
don't
know
what
the
funding
is
for
yet
or
how
much
it
would
be
and
that's
a
concern
for
me.
I
think
we
have
to
know
what
we're
going
to
do,
get
a
cost
estimate
on
that
run
through
our
standard
procurement
process
and
what
that
is
and
then
do
it.
So
I
I'm
a
little
uncomfortable
just
allocating
money
without
having
a
project
to
build,
basically
allocate
it
to.
S
Understood.
Thank
you.
A
Are
there
any
other
comments
from
anyone
else
on
council
just
a
question,
as
I
understand
it,
the
public
arts
commission
wants
to
move
forward
with
having
murals
but
has
not
made
a
determination
as
to
what
those
murals
are
going
to
look
like.
S
It
would
potentially
delay
bringing
on
the
project
manager
for
this
project
who's.
Also,
the
designer
issuing
the
procurement
for
that,
and
then
each
of
the
artists,
I
think,
is
about
seven
artists.
Up
to
seven
artists
would
be
paid
as
their
designs
are
completed,
so
I
think
it
would
just
impact
the
project
manager,
part
who
would
coordinate
and
organize
bringing
this
proposed
project
to
fruition.
A
Is
is
there
concern
councilmember
woods
that
we
should
not
do
this
project
or
just
procedural
issues
around
what
it
is
that
we're
specifically
approving
and
wanting
to
see
the
actual
recommended
art
before
funding
it.
Q
Sorry,
I
think,
there's
there's
two
questions.
One
is
we're
doing
the
wayfinding,
which
is
painting
you
know
the
initial
concept
was
to
paint
these
the
entrances
to
the
garages.
I
don't
know
what
they've
proposed.
It's
nothing
is
in
in
the
packet.
We
have
no
idea
what's
being
proposed,
but
that
I
agree
that
you
know
we
could
have
some
art
component
in
it.
I
just
we
don't
know
what
it
is
and
so
or
what
it's
going
to
cost.
I
like
the
idea
from
the
arts
commission.
Q
I
love
the
idea
of
art
at
that,
but
I
just
think
it
really
needs
to
be
integrated,
better
and
just
needs
some
time.
It
just
needs
some
time
to
flesh
out.
That's
all
I'm
saying
did
I
answer
the
question.
I'm
sorry.
N
Thinking
on
the
fly,
but
I
do
appreciate
you
know
just
in
thinking
about
wayfinding
right
and
some
opera
options,
we
may
have
there
and
entrances
that
can
almost
tie
into
the
mural
right
with
notable
people
from
palm
springs
and
be
coordinated,
as
would
be
great.
So
what
would
be
needed
to
do
that
right?
So
we
don't
have
this
move
forward
with
the
design,
that's
very
different
than
wayfinding
design
and
make
sure
we're
talking
right.
I'm
fine
with
this
going
forward
as
long
as
we're
coordinating
them.
I
guess.
P
If
I
might
just
offer,
I
think
one
of
the
potential
challenges
is
just
going
to
be
timing,
so
in
reviewing
our
kind
of
strategic
plan
and
work
plans,
we
don't
have
any
imminent
timing
to
return
to
parking
way
finding
and,
as
I
understand
it,
the
parking
we
finding
is
also
kind
of
a
broader
component
of
parking
management.
That
was
one
of
the
things
during
visioning
that
we
did
identify
that
we
need
to
circle
back
on.
P
We
just
haven't
identified
the
timing
of
that
yet
so
I
think
the
coordination
that
would
really
work
would
be
for
the
arts
commission
to
work
hand
in
hand
with
a
consultant.
That's
doing
that
way.
Finding
so
that
if,
for
instance,
there
is
meant
to
be
an
aesthetic
entrance
that
helps
people
identify.
This
is
a
parking
structure
in
palm
springs
and
that
it's
consistent
between
some
of
our
facilities.
P
It
might
even
be
a
potential
expansion
of
this
program
to
include
more
than
this
one
garage,
but
it
would
also
probably
be
a
delay
of
the
program
until
such
time
that
we
could
really
do
that.
Coordination,
which
again,
is
just
not
scheduled
presently
so
that
it
might
just
mean
waiting
until
we
return
to
that
initiative
and
having
the
collaboration
at
that
point,
which
would
probably
negate
the
need
for
artistic
direction
at
this
point,
if
the
goal
was
to
have
them
truly
integrated.
N
Although
that's
not
currently
scheduled
on
our
next
couple
agendas
from
the
vision
session
is
that
something
we
think
we're
doing
in
the
next
six
months.
P
It
didn't
come
across
that
quickly.
It
was
one
of
those
items
kind
of
on
our
list
that
we
acknowledge
that
we
need
to
find
time
to
get
back
to,
but
but
wasn't
planned
for
the
next
four
months
or
beyond.
Q
Voice
finding
can
be
artful
right;
it
doesn't
need
to
be
pedestrian
or
or
utilitarian.
Q
So
I'm
wondering
if,
if
art
money,
if
we
can
explore
using
our
money
to
kind
of
jump,
start
it
in
a
way
not
only
in
this
location
but
in
a
few
others
and
just
kind
of
tweak
kind
of
what
they
are
presenting
a
little
bit
and
talking
to
our
staff.
Q
That's
worked
with
our
consultant
to
see
if
that
would
work,
because
it
may
be
a
funding
source
that
we
don't
have
to
hire
consultants
or
to
hire
artists
or
hire
painters,
that's
not
on,
and
it
would
not
take
necessarily
staff
time
to
do
that.
Except
for
some
coordination
work.
Is
that
a
fair
assessment.
P
It's
difficult
for
me
to
say
without
understanding
the
scope
of
wayfinding
sometimes
way
finding
is
pretty
limited
to
just
something
like
public
parking,
and
at
least
my
limited
experience
with
it
is.
There
is
a
nice
blending
of
kind
of
artistic
design,
but
enough
of
the
common
elements
that
tell
people
that
aren't
familiar
with
the
community,
that
this
is
directing
me
to
parking
right.
P
So
so
it
incorporates
things
like
a
large
p
right
that
we're
used
to
seeing
in
communities
some
wayfinding
initiatives
go
beyond
that
and
borrow
elements
of
aesthetic
that
can
be
used
to
identify
major
facilities
and
directions
to
areas
of
town
and
other
things.
So
I
really
think
it
probably
depends
on
the
scope
one
way
or
the
other.
P
I
think
we'd
be
wanting
to
pull
in
that
consultant
and
whether
that
work
has
begun
and
needs
to
be
extended
to
completion
or
whether
it
requires
bringing
on
a
new
consultant
one
way
or
the
other
we'd
have
to
engage
that
consultant
in
the
rest
of
that
effort,
which
really
does
involve
kind
of
every.
You
know
not
knowing
exactly
what
was
done
at
the
conceptual
level.
P
In
this
preliminary
study
identifying
the
facilities,
you
know
making
some
selections
of
art
there's
usually
a
little
bit
of
a
public
process,
or
at
least
some
engagement
with
council
on
that,
because
anytime
you're
really
talking
about
you
know
that
that
broad
plan
to
identify
landmarks,
even
if
it's
just
parking,
it's
generally,
not
just
done
off
to
the
side
right.
It
includes
some
stakeholder
outreach,
some
artistic
review,
so
to
speak.
So
I
do
think
it
would
take
at
least
a
decent
effort
with
staff
to
kind
of
combine
the
consultant
aspect
and
the
artistic
aspect.
Q
S
Yeah
council
member,
I
would
just
add-
we'd-
probably
need
to
take
a
look
at
the
municipal
code
on
the
allowable
uses
of
public
art
funds.
I
know
it
prevents
public
art
funds
from
being
used
for
functional
furniture
for
private
development,
so
I
don't
know
where
that
fits
with
parking
signage
and
on
the
parking
signage
sign.
I'm
sure
there's
certain
standards
that
the
signage
has
to
meet
that
you
know
would
somehow
have
to
be
incorporated
into
the
public
artwork.
So
I
think
we
do
need
to.
S
A
Perhaps
it'd
be
appropriate
to
ask
the
public
arts
commission
to
flesh
out
a
bit
what
their
plans
are
for
the
artists
and
in
the
scope,
so
that
we
would
have
just
a
preliminary
understanding
of
what
the
art
might
be
looking
like
and
be
able
to
revisit
it.
That
way.
N
It
seems
like
a
great
opportunity
to
make
it
a
really
unique
pot
like
unique
palm
springs,
experience
to
go
into
a
parking
garage
with
the
work
that
the
art
commission
is
doing
and
to
tie
that
together
would
be
a
really
cool
feature.
I
think.
P
A
C
Thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you.
I
really
I
just
want
to
say.
I
really
appreciate
the
work
of
the
arts
commission.
I
know
we
all
do
and
really
support
this
work,
and
thank
them
for
that.
I
just
wanted
to
comment
overall.
This
is
a
lot
of
money
to
invest
in
the
parking
structure
and
I
appreciate
that
it
should.
C
I
know
we've
invested
a
lot
of
public
art
in
exactly
that
block
and
looking
at
the
photos,
I
mean
obviously
that's
a
concrete
jungle
there
and
would
really
use
benefit
from
a
mural,
but
also
thinking
through
that
we
have
de
mouth
community
center,
which
I
would
love
to
see
a
mural
on
or
other
you
know,
city,
buildings
or
other
areas
of
town
that
really
haven't
seen
the
benefit
of
public
art,
and
so
just
thinking
through
like
what
is
that
large-scale
plan
for
public
art
throughout
that
block
of
downtown?
C
You
know,
where
else
do
we
need
it
and
coming
together
on
a
strategic
way,
and
I
I
personally
hate
to
hold
up
the
arts
commission,
because
I've
always
kind
of
fought
the
city
council
having
a
ton
of
oversight,
because
then
I
think
no
public
art
gets
approved
and
then
we
delay
forever
and
it's
just
a
longer
process.
So
I
think,
as
we
you
know,
make
sure
that
these
projects
go
forward
with
appropriate
like
strategic
planning
and
oversight.
C
Q
So
I
would
agree
with
that.
I
think
a
little
strategy
or
a
meeting
with
them
would
be
really
great.
I
personally
think
murals
are
problematic
in
many
ways.
Unlike
other
types
of
art,
in
that
the
maintenance
of
them,
we
saw
that
with
the
unity
center,
you
know
where
it
fades
terribly,
and
then
we
have
to
put
up
heavy
tiles
and
does
the
wall
support.
The
tiles
paint
fades
out
here,
blue
and
purple
is
terrible
and
it's
a
long
term
cost
for
the
city
different
than
polishing,
a
sculpture
or
some
other
form
of
art.
Q
So
you
know
we
need,
you
know,
there's
there's
cost
involved
in
that,
and
and
as
we
build
out
the
city,
you
know
the
art
fund,
you
know
it
will
become
less,
and
so
we
will
take
on
a
burden
of
that,
and
then
people
become
attached
to
these
murals
right
and
they
want
the
original
artist
to
touch
them
up
and
it
ends
up
being
a
very
difficult
thing
to
do
so
I
just
as
we
as
we
move
forward
in
the
strategic,
I
agree
with
council
member
hostage.
A
A
This
is
a
public
hearing
to
consider
an
appeal
by
eric
fruit
of
carmeneta
properties
concerning
planning
commission's
decision
to
deny
the
applications
concerning
the
properties
located
at
310
and
322
west
crestview
drive
first
I'd
like
to
ask
the
city
clerk.
How
many
individuals
do
we
have
wanting
to
speak
on
this.
H
A
Five
total
the
applicant
and
four
others,
since
we
have
these
items
to
together,
I'd
like
to
give
the
applicant
seven
and
a
half
minutes
instead
of
the
traditional
five
to
make
their
presentation,
and
we
will
also
particularly
with
council,
representing
the
neighbors,
give
that
council
an
additional
two
minutes
to
make
their
presentation
and
to
all
of
the
other
speakers.
We
will
give
you
some
additional
discretion,
but
ask
that
you
stay
as
close
to
two
minutes,
as
you
can
with
that
staff
report.
Please.
R
R
The
project
proponent,
is
has
submitted
the
appeals
requesting
the
council
overturned
the
decision
of
the
planning
commission
to
deny
these
applications
which
occurred
on
february
23rd
of
this
year.
The
homes
consist
of
a
2775
square
foot,
house,
503
square
foot
garage
at
310,
west
crestview
and
the
other
lot
is
2
800
square
feet
in
size
with
the
533
square
foot
garage
at
322,
west
crestview
drive.
R
R
R
R
It
is
a
single
story,
residence
and
as
I'll
get
into
in
a
moment.
The
other
property
or
other
project
is
a
two-story
residence,
and
so
they
do
require
a
minor
modification
which
is
permissible
for
hillside
lots
to
modify
the
building
envelope,
which
is
you
know,
is
typically
used
when
it's
difficult
to
propose
a
home
that
conforms
to
the
set
standards
for
height
limits
in
r1
districts.
R
So
the
elevations
here
you
can
see
the
front
elevation
which
faces
the
street
at
the
top
of
the
screen,
and
then
the
east
elevation
or
if
you're
looking
at
the
home
from
the
street,
is
the
right
side
on
the
bottom
of
the
screen.
You
can
see
that,
as
you
probably
recall
in
the
topography,
exhibit
that
the
terrain
is
really
at
the
center
of
the
lot,
where
it's
kind
of
higher
and
then
it
drops
off
towards
the
rear
and
a
portion
towards
the
southeast
of
the
lot.
R
R
And
then
they
have
shown
renderings
of
the
proposed
house
on
the
left.
You
see
what
it
would
appear
as
from
the
street
and
on
the
right
side.
You
see
what
the
home
would
look
like
from
the
rear
portion
of
the
lot
or
at
the
street
behind
it.
R
R
And
then
the
west
elevation
and
the
rear
elevations
of
the
home.
This
is
where
you
see,
probably
the
most
significantly
the
the
two-story
component
of
the
residence
as
the
lot
drops
off
towards
the
rear,
and
so
when
looking
at
it
in
comparison
next
to
each
other.
This
gives
you
a
sense
of
the
context
between
the
two
structures:
the
rear
elevation
on
what
is
kind
of
seen
from
the
rear
arroyo
that
exists
towards
the
back
of
the
lots
and
they've
provided
these
renderings
to
show
how
the
homes
are
proposed.
R
So
going
back
to
the
decision,
the
planning
commission
on
february
23rd,
the
application
was
denied
by
a
vote
of
four
to
one.
The
commission
was
unable
to
make
three
findings
relative
to
the
architectural
review
criteria
in
terms
of
the
location
of
the
structures
in
relationship
to
the
open
space
and
topography.
R
The
commission
did
not
find
that
the
homes
were
compatible
with
the
other
homes
in
the
the
canyon
area
there
that
back
up
to
the
arroyo,
they
didn't
feel
that
the
homes
were
had
harmonious
relationship
with
the
adjoining
developments
or
neighborhood,
and
then
they
didn't
believe
that
the
maximum
height
and
overall
mass
were
compatible.
So
the
three
findings
that
they
made
in
the
negative
for
the
architectural
review
application
were
those
three
of
the
of
those
required
and
then
again
the
minor
modification
application.
They
were
unable
to
make
findings
relative
to
criteria.
R
One
and
two
other
issues
that
have
been
raised
throughout
this
process
are
relative
to
the
project
impacting
areas
of
slope
that
exceed
30
percent.
R
There
is
no
strict
prohibition
of
building
a
structure
on
a
proportion
of
a
lot
that
does
have
a
30
slope
of
a
30
percent
or
more
slope,
but
there
is
language
that
is
in
the
city's
hillside.
Ordinance
that
says
you
can't
subdivide
those
areas
or
those
areas
that
are
are
exceeding
30
slope
should
be
excluded
from
the
proposed
subdivision.
This
is
an
existing
lot
of
record
or
these
are
existing
lots
of
records.
So
this
was
an
established
neighborhood
several
decades
ago,
and
so
that
was
obviously
not
taken
into
consideration
when
the
neighborhood
was
established.
R
Number
in
terms
of
the
number
of
applications
being
considered.
The
city
does
have
two
applications
that
were
submitted
for
these
lots.
So
that's
all
that
has
been
considered
by
staff
when
reviewing
the
proposal
as
it
relates
to
sequa
and
the
california
environmental
quality
act
and
relative
to
impacts
on
wildlife,
flooding
and
hydrology.
R
The
properties
are
not
located
within
the
coachella
valley,
multi-species,
habitat
conservation,
protected
areas
relative
to
the
bighorn
sheep,
that's
actually
further
west
more
in
the
mountainous
areas
and
that's
what's
identified
in
the
mshcp
plan
in
terms
of
flooding
and
hydrology.
The
city's
engineer
has
reviewed
the
preliminary
hydrology
plan.
There
were
comments
during
the
review
process
that
that
the
document
had
not
been
finalized,
but
we
do
have
a.
R
So
tonight
the
matter
before
use
to
open
the
appeal
hearing
and
consider
testimony
and
adopt
the
resolution
either
upholding
the
planning
commission's
decision
and
denying
the
applications
or
as
an
alternative
staff,
also
has
the
resolutions
that
were
presented.
The
planning
commission
when
we
made
our
recommendation
for
approval,
and
so
with
that
I'll
conclude
my
presentation.
Thank
you
very
much
available
for
questions.
A
Questions
for
mr
newell
councilmember
woods.
Q
Thank
you
just
a
couple
ques
quick
questions,
the
you
talked
about
the
hydrology
and
I
just
I
want
to
repeat
that
the
hydrology
is
not
a
problem
according
to
our
staff
on
this.
Is
that
correct,
that's
correct.
R
R
Q
Right
and
then
you
know,
we
got
to
communication
by
the
way
just
to
the
public.
I
read
all
the
communications.
There
was
quite
a
few
of
them.
Thank
you,
but
the
multi-species
habitat
conservation
plan
that
we
had
a
letter
on
that
and
you
touch
base
on
it,
but
that
doesn't
apply
here,
because
this
is
already
considered
land
that
you
can
build
on
to
preserve
land
up
in
environmentally
sensitive
areas.
Is
that
correct,
that's
correct,
so
the
multi-species
habitat
conservation
plan
does
not
come
into
play
here.
Q
It
would
not
okay,
great
and
then
the
other
thing
is
because
of
the
size
of
the
building.
Well,
let
me
back
up
and
just
preface
it
you
we,
you
know
by
state
law.
You
can
build
a
second
unit
by
right
on
your
property
with
very
minimal
review.
Is
that
correct,
correct
right,
so
these
properties
are
being
built
out
in
such
a
way
that
it's
almost
impossible
for
anyone
to
add
an
adu.
Q
R
Q
Right,
so
they
could
in
essence
build
out
the
lot
to
what
they're
trying
to
build
right
now
with
an
adu
if
they
got
a
smaller
building.
If
we,
if
it
was
just
the
other
question
I
was
going
to
ask,
is:
do
we
as
a
city
council?
If
we
were
to
overturn
the
planning
commission
decision,
do
we
need
to
make
findings
or
those
in
the
resolutions
that
is
attached.
R
Q
And,
and-
and
thank
you,
mr
noah,
the
last
question
I
have
is
on
the
slope
of,
and
I
went
to
the
sites
to
look
at
them,
so
I
was
very
familiar
with
it
or
I
could
be
more
familiar
with
it
and
the
there's
nothing.
The
the
building
itself
is
not
cantilevered
over
the
slope
is
it.
I
was
trying
to
figure
that
out
through
the
renderings
yeah.
Q
R
Q
R
There
may
be
peers,
but
but
no
it
wouldn't
have
an
opening
that
you
know
people
could
crawl
under.
Q
A
Mr
newell,
the
as
I
understand
it
with
staff
report,
the
height
and
the
setback,
do
not
conform
on
either
property.
Is
that
correct.
R
A
So
if
they
were
to
strictly
follow
what
would
that
entail
in
terms
of
how
the
property
would
be
oriented.
A
Now
that
affects
the
setback,
if
we
don't
approve
that,
but
the
height
is
that
affected
by
it,
because
it's
as
I
saw
the
properties
and-
and
I
as
well
did
go
out
to
inspect
the
property
on
multiple
occasions,
and
I
will
note
for
the
record
that
I
often
on
one
of
those
visits
met
with
some
of
the
neighbors
of
the
property,
but
in
that
location
in
the
corner,
where
it
was
a
23
foot
height.
As
I
recall
it,
there
is
a
cantilever
under
there
is.
Is
that
correct?.
A
And
so
that
26
or
23
foot
drop
exceeds
what
is
a
strict
conformity
with
that
all
right,
correct
and
on
the
other
property?
Is
there
also
any
cantilevering.
A
A
Any
questions
for
mr
newell
before
we
move
on
to
the
applicant
and
to
public
land
all
right
with
that
I'll
ask
the
city
clerk
to
please
reach
out
to
the
applicant
and
again
we
will
provide
the
applicant
seven
and
a
half
minutes
because
we're
bringing
both
of
these
items
together
we're
giving
a
little
bit
of
discretion
to
both
the
applicant
and
to
other
public
commentators.
G
G
These
are
merely
two
single-family
lots
that
have
been
platted,
developed
and
overlooked
for
decades.
At
this
point,
we
have
met
all
the
criteria
for
an
approval.
These
plans
are
the
result
of
our
responses
to
the
year-long
recommendations
and
requests
by
the
planning
department
and
the
aac
for
which
we
received
a
unanimous
approval
but
conflicting
direction
from
the
planning
commission.
G
G
I
feel,
as
others
do,
that
the
planning
commission
was
reacting
to
the
most
vocal
opposition
and
their
erroneous
distracted
legal
claims,
the
most
recent
of
which
is
that
we
are
developing
a
five
lot
subdivision,
any
piecemeal
process.
We
are
not
and
we
have
no
intention
of
building
on
all
five.
We
are
a
small
operation
and
originally
only
wanted
these
two
lots,
but
had
no
choice,
as
the
seller
would
only
agree
to
sell
the
group.
O
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
opportunity
to
present
to
you
today
part
of
my
presentation,
I'm
going
to
speed
through
in
in
respect
of
time
here,
but
we're
asking
that
you
to
overturn
the
decision
by
the
planning
commission
to
deny
these
two
proposed
projects
on
the
grounds
that
they
are
actually,
in
fact
consistent
with
the
general
plan.
O
However,
at
that
point
the
planning
commission
should
then
be
held
to
the
highest
standard
and
of
holding
the
general
plan
and,
as
I've
called
out
in
these
two
slides,
the
general
plan
is
quite
specific
in
what
they
deem
the
highest
priority
for
for
palm
springs,
one
of
those
being
the
diversity
and
uniqueness
of
architectural
character
within
the
neighborhood.
Furthermore,
in
the
the
community,
design
element
goes
on
to
list
a
number
of
design
objectives
which
will
offer
the
guidance
to
the
city
leaders.
O
I
bring
this
up
because
the
the
planning
commission
focuses
specifically
on
one
aspect
of
of
the
design
elements
and
ignores
this
portion
of
the
general
plan,
and
it
focuses
on
the
fact
that
our
neighborhood
or
our
approach
to
design
does
not
conform
and
does
not
match
exactly
the
historic
neighborhood
development
pattern.
So,
in
the
first
objection.
O
These
projects
were
unanimously
recommended
for
approval
by
the
the
aac
at
that
time.
Furthermore,
when
it
talks
about
us
projecting
beyond
further
than
the
neighboring
lots,
it
specifically
focuses
on
five
existing
houses.
Despite
the
fact,
the
general
plan
asks
them
to
look
at
the
whole
neighborhood
level
of
those
five
lots
or
existing
houses.
Only
two
of
those
lots
have
any
similarity
of
of
context
with
our
site,
both
in
size
and
terrain
of
those
two
you'll
see
here.
We
only
project
about
4
to
11
feet
beyond
their
existing
developments.
O
O
Again,
it
focuses
on
that
same
issue
of
extending
over
the
hillside,
not
being
consistent
with
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood.
You
can
see
all
those
grey
houses
that
forms
the
neighborhood
and
they're,
focusing
on
just
the
blue
and
yellow
ones,
and
again
only
those
two,
the
the
two
and
three
lots
right
next
to
ours
are
the
ones
that
are
even
remotely
similar
in
terms
of
context.
O
O
The
planning
commission
did
not
agree,
and
so
I
want
to
show
you
an
example
of
the
diversity
within
the
neighborhood,
so
you
can
see
both
differences
in
massing
and
architectural
character.
Two-Story
single
story,
it
all
exists
in
this
neighborhood.
They
said
that
our
project
being
diverse
as
it
is,
does
not
fit
within
this
neighborhood.
O
Furthermore,
the
the
third
objection
is
broken
into
three
kind
of
three
parts.
The
first
is
that
the
massing
of
the
proposed
residences
are
greater
than
the
other
residences
in
the
neighborhood
and
very
clearly
did
the
planning
staffs
say
that
in
their
recommendation
for
approval
that
our
house
is
actually
smaller
than
the
average
of
the
neighborhood
that
the
neighborhood
houses
range
from
1950
to
7
749
square
feet,
resulting
in
an
average
of
3
465
square
feet,
while
ours
remain
at
3
278
square
feet
and
3
344
respectively.
O
In
the
interest
of
time,
I'm
going
to
kind
of
quickly
move
on.
To
the
second
point,
second
and
third
point,
which
is
the
request
for
the
minor
modifications
and
the
earlier
question
about
the
front
setback
issue.
We
were
actually
advised
by
the
architectural
advisory
committee
to
pursue
that
minor
modification,
because
it
is
so
consistent
with
the
neighborhood.
If
you
go
up
this
street
and
I'm
showing
you
photos
right
here.
All
of
these
houses
along
this
street
next
to
ours
are
currently
less
than
the
required
25
feet.
O
And
lastly,
because
I
have
24
seconds
here-
to
discuss
quickly
about
the
maximum
height.
O
The
planning
staff
calls
out
the
fact
that
we
are
very
low,
with
an
average
of
10
foot
10
and
a
half
feet
to
13
and
a
half
feet
at
the
street
level
of
crestview.
So
if
you
look
at
that
section
diagram
there,
we
maintain
the
view
sheds
of
the
neighbors
behind
us
and
it's
only
at
the
steepest
part
of
the
descending
slope
that
we
exceed
what's
allowable
and
ask
for
the
minor
modification.
A
M
I've
been
asked
to
comment
on
behalf
of
some
of
my
neighbors,
who
couldn't
be
here
tonight,
essentially
we're
asking
for
one
thing
that
you
uphold
the
decision
of
the
planning
commission
and
deny
the
appeal
having
spent
hours
attending
every
meeting
associated
with
this
project.
We
can
assure
you
that
this
project,
or
at
least
a
portion
that
is
before
you
tonight,
has
been
given
every
opportunity
to
succeed.
M
There
were
three
meetings
with
the
aac.
Normally
there
are
two
at
the
second
meeting
it
was
about
to
be
denied
and
then
the
the
committee
gave
them
one
more
chance
to
come
back
when
asked
what
they
should
do.
The
answer
was:
do
what
we
told
you
to
do
the
first
two
meetings,
so
they've
had
the
opportunity
to
do
that.
Then
it
went
through
three
planning
commission
meetings,
so
we've
spent
probably
at
least
12
hours
on
meetings
you're
getting
roughly
20
minutes.
If
that,
so
we
would
support
the
planning
commission.
M
The
issues
that
were
there
in
the
beginning
still
exist
today.
The
issues
that
we
see
first
is
the
phase
of
a
spec
house
subdivision.
Basically,
I
know
eric
said
that
they're
only
doing
two
houses.
He
stated
in
the
meetings
at
the
aac
that
they
are
doing
four,
possibly
five
or
offered
to
do
less.
I
should
say
so:
that's
what
we're
going
off
of.
He
owns
all
five
lots.
It's
logical
to
presume
that
that
would
be
the
case.
M
M
Third,
the
houses
need
to
follow
the
contours
of
the
land.
This
was
brought
up
over
and
over
and
over
again,
it's
yet
to
occur
in
a
complete
way.
The
last
comment
at
the
last
planning
commission
was
that
you
have
these
houses
with
that
should
follow
the
slope
of
the
land
and
if
they
did
that
they
should
have
steps,
and
he
only
saw
18
inches
drop
in
this
basically
three
steps.
He
said
in
a
in
a
sloping
lot
lots
in
these
houses.
M
It's
fine
to
have.
You
know
all
the
different
types
there's
no
dispute
on
the
actual
design
of
the
house
and
its
appearance.
What
we're
talking
about
is
the
way
that
it
sits
on
the
lot.
The
house
next
door
is
1603
square
feet.
This
is
almost
double
that
size,
the
house
next
door,
that
is
1605
double
that
the
house
at
the
top
of
those
three
houses,
is
2300.
It's
a
two-story
house,
but
it
fits
into
the
envelope
and
it
fits
in
the
lot.
M
I
I
Documentation
in
your
packets,
a
letter
from
our
neighborhood
group,
which
was
signed
by
34
of
the
homeowners
in
our
neighborhood,
as
well
as
a
letter
from
an
attorney
who's
representing
our
interest
as
well,
and
it
clearly
articulates
our
position.
Mr
dunn
just
also
expressed
what
he
I
think,
what
all
of
us
feel
as
well.
So
I
won't
take
up
valuable
time
there
rearticulating
that,
but
I
would
encourage
you
just
to
again
follow
the
recommendations.
B
F
Evening,
mayor
and
council,
you've
heard
from
the
quiet
speakers
in
the
group
I'm
the
loud
one
here
there
is
extensive
information
in
your
packets.
Our
attorney,
especially
land
use
specialists
laid
out
extensive
problems
with
the
two
properties
that
seem
to
be
trying
to
gloss
over
or
steamrolled
over.
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
Can
I
have
a
few
more
seconds
to
to
finish
we're
not
against
this
development,
but
there's
a
lot
at
stake
here
in
terms
of
the
environment
in
terms
of
various
regulations
and
the
general
plan
and
the
institute
of
bill
unsuitability.
One
slide
that
you
didn't
see
today
was
this
slide
from
the
street.
It
showed
the
renderings
of
the
houses
from
the
street,
they
look,
they
run
together.
They
actually
look
the
same.
F
So
you
have
got
two
houses
on
two
lots
that
look
like
one
huge
long
house,
and
it's
just
I
think
information
has
been
cherry-picked
by
the
developers.
I
understand
they
want
to
do
that,
to
look
the
best
they
can,
but
I
don't
think
you've
got
it
true.
Unless
you
read
mr
dunn,
our
neighborhood
letter
and
our
attorney's
letter,
you
won't
get
the
full
picture,
so
I
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
I
appreciate
it
you're
doing
a
great
job
here.
Thanks.
B
I
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Marin,
council.
I
just
want
to
be
very
quick.
I
I
live
at
400
ridge
road,
which
is
the
parallel
road
to
crestview.
Where
these
developments
are.
Our
lawyers
set
out
a
bunch
of
issues
that
are.
We
are
all
in
support
of.
As
of
my
neighbors,
I
just
want
to
talk
about
two
things
about
when
I
look
at
this:
the
concept
of
fairness
and
one.
I
want
to
talk
about
the
legal
cont
which
I
don't
understand
about,
but
I
just
want
to
give
some
context
to
the
idea
of
procedural
fairness.
I
You
know
I
I,
for
the
first
time
in
my
life,
I've
come
to
planning
commission
meetings.
You
know
there
were
two
planning
commission
meetings.
There
were
three
architecture
review
meetings.
We
were
hours
and
hours
and
hours
of
evidence
and
questions
back
and
forth.
So,
while
I
appreciate
the
applicant
does
not
like
the
result,
there
can't
be
any
doubt
that
this
was
procedurally
fair.
I
Everybody
had
a
chance
to
talk
and
go
back
and
forth,
and
I
I'm
heartened
to
see
members
of
the
planning
commission,
including
commissioner
roberts,
who
voted
against
us,
are
engaged
in
other
things.
They're
super
engaged
people,
so
that's
one
of
the
the
legal
side,
but
on
the
practical
side
I
just
want
to
mention
about
the
concept
of
fairness,
and
it
really
came
home
when,
when
mr
crutch
said
these
lots
have
been
overlooked
for
decades.
It's
not
true.
They've
been
overlooked
for
almost
a
century.
I
These
lots
are
in
the
oldest
part
of
the
oldest
neighborhood
in
palm
springs
and
at
the
certain
juncture,
someone
wonders
why
they
have
not
been
built
on
and
the
reason
they
haven't
been
built
on
is
because
you
can't
do
it
in
a
reasonable
integrative
way
with
something
unbelievably
oppressive
onto
the
environment.
That's
just
simply
the
case.
That's
why
these
lots
have
not
been
built
upon,
and
I
feel
even
tonight
the
applicant
doesn't
understand
that
they
say:
we've
met
all
the
requirements
well,
but
they
have
not.
I
They
want
to
be
higher,
they
want
to
be
closer
and
they
want
to
do
all
the
things
that
prevented
these
lots
from
being
sold
for
80
to
90
years,
because
it's
too
obtrusive
to
build
on
them.
There
are
ways
to
do
it,
but
there's
not
ways
for
a
developer
to
do
it.
To
make
the
maximum
amount
of
money
by
putting
the
largest
buildings
possible,
I
just
don't
think
that's
the
way.
These
lots
work
out
and
that's
just
the
more
common
aspect
of
fairness.
So
I
don't
think
they
need
all
the
requirements.
I
B
T
Thank
you,
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
mesa
neighborhood
organization
and
as
people
have
noted,
I
submitted
written
comments
supporting
the
planning
commission
decision.
That
decision
should
be
affirmed.
The
appeal
should
be
denied
the
planning
commission
based
its
determination
to
deny
the
project
on
clear
policies
in
the
general
plan,
and
these
are
also
reflected
in
the
hillside
management
ordinance.
T
T
These
policies
apply
to
any
hillside
area,
with
a
slope
greater
than
ten
percent.
These
hill
sides
actually
contain
slopes
deeper
than
thirty
percent
and
under
the
hillside,
ordinance
such
areas
shouldn't
be
developed
at
all.
The
applicant
says
that
this
design
is
intended
to
preserve
the
hillside
by
not
grading
it,
but
he's
obscuring
the
hillside
and
building
over
it
really
dominating
it
rather
than
building
harmoniously
with
it.
The
planning
commission
was
absolutely
correct
in
denying
these
requests
for
departures
from
code
requirements,
because
this
project
does
not
sensitively
integrate
with
the
hillside.
T
I'd
like
to
turn
to
sequa,
which
the
planning
commission
did
not
really
address.
Sql.
The
planning
commission
required
didn't
make
sequel
findings
at
all,
but
the
project
is
not
should
not
be
held
exempt
from
sequa
as
as
we've
as
some
others
have
discussed.
The
applicant
owns
five
lots
and
has
stated
in
public
meetings
that
he
would
develop
at
least
four
of
those.
This
exemption
for
single-family
homes
applies
to
the
development
of
no
more
than
three
homes
and
the
courts
have
instructed
to
look
at
the
whole
of
a
project.
T
The
public
record
is
clear
that
the
whole
of
the
project
includes
more
than
these
two
homes
that
are
before
the
council
tonight.
Secondly,
unusual
circumstances
render
an
exemption
inappropriate
and
those
are
that
this
is
located
within
bighorn
sheep
habitat.
I
know
that
it
is
not
within
the
multi-species
habitat
conservation
area,
but
it
is
an
area
frequented
by
bighorn
sheep,
as
evidenced
by
the
photos
and
videos
provided
by
the
neighbors
of
these
animals
visiting
the
terrain
right
around
these
properties
and
the
u.s
fish
and
wildlife
service
has
opined
that
low-lying.
T
Development
in
low-lying
habitat
areas
is
a
significant
problem
for
bighorn
sheep,
and
this
is
something
that
would
be
analyzed
in
a
sequel
review
and,
secondly,
the
project
is
in
a
mapped
floodplain,
which
is
a
specific
map.
Environmental
condition
that
prohibits
application
of
the
sequa
exemption.
T
The
california
department
of
fish
and
wildlife
commented
that
the
project
appears
to
have
the
potential
to
interfere
with
a
water
course
due
to
its
location
on
the
canyon
and
stated
that
it
would
rely
on
the
city
to
provide
a
secret
document
for
it
to
issue
any
necessary
lake
and
streambed
alteration
agreement.
T
But
there
will
be
none
because
the
city
has
not
conducted
any
square
review
and
then,
finally,
on
the
hydrology,
it
says
tonight
that
the
applicant
had
submitted
hydrology
studies
which
were
approved
by
the
city
engineer,
but
these
have
not
been
circulated
to
the
public.
These
are
the
kind.
This
is
the
kind
of
thing
that,
in
a
proper
sql
review,
would
be
included
for
the
public
to
review
and
comment
on
rather
than
happening
kind
of
behind
the
scenes
and
where
it
is
not
available
and
subject
to
public
scrutiny.
T
So
I
thank
you
for
your
time.
I
you
should
uphold
the
planning
commission's
decision.
It
was
thoughtful
and
reflects
the
city's
general
plan
policies
in
in
a
supportable
and
appropriate
manner.
Thank
you
very
much.
O
I
did
want
to
mention,
however,
the
again
reinforced
the
issue
that
the
minor
modification
request
is
consistent
with
the
neighborhood
and
that
the
the
height
requirement
and
that
the
res
the
design
that
projects
over
the
hillside
is
not
an
attempt
to
obscure
the
natural
hillside,
but
it's
an
attempt
to
work
within
both
the
strict
building
and
zoning
codes,
as
well
as
the
general
plan,
so
we're
doing
our
best
to
minimize
our
impact
on
the
hillside,
despite
what
the
neighbors
decided
to
say
about
it
and
our
approach
by
putting
it
on
piers
and
cantilever
that
number
310
west
crestview
is
to
build
respectfully
on
that
slope.
G
In
your
packets,
I
I
think
there
was
several
letters
of
support.
We
we
do
have
support
within
the
neighborhood.
They
are
less
vocal
than
the
ones
in
opposition.
For
obvious
reasons,
they're,
certainly
not
as
willing
to
put
in
writing
their
opposition
and
they're
uncomfortable
publicly
opposing
their
own
neighbors
for
obvious
reasons,
but
they
have
reached
out
to
us.
Several
of
them
have
written
letters
which
you
have.
One
of
them,
notably,
is
294
crestview,
which
is
directly
adjacent
to
310..
G
They,
we
share
a
property
line,
they're
downhill
and
they
live
there
full
time.
This
is
the
sunny
bono
estate
they've
made
a
substantial
investment
there
and
they're
going
to
continue
to
do
so
as
they
renovate
it,
and
they
have
no
problem
with
this.
They
love
what
we're
doing.
They
have
suggested
that
they
feel
their
neighbors
are
wrong
and
are
intentionally
trying
to
mislead
the
officials
that
are
deciding
this
matter
and
they
offered
their
support.
G
They
are
arguably
the
most
impacted
by
this
project
and
we
have
their
full
support.
One
more
thing:
I
want
to
note
these.
This
height
of
these
projects
has
been
limited
by
digging
them
into
the
ground.
We
have
buried
the
first
floor
of
both
houses
into
the
ground
by
three
feet
to
minimize
the
height
impact.
G
It
creates
an
an
odd
look
from
my
standpoint
in
in
having
to
market
a
home
or
even
purchase
one
of
these
houses
having
it
sit
so
low
in
the
street.
But
if
you
look
at
the
at
the
at
the
street
view
of
these
homes,
they
are
noticeably
lower
than
all
of
the
others,
and
this
was
in
efforts
by
us
to
respond
to
all
the
comments
by
the
neighbors,
the
planning
department
and
the
aac,
and
these
plans
are
a
direct
result
of
all
these
comments.
G
A
Q
Madam
mayor,
if
I
could
ask
the
first
speaker
to
come
back
to
the
microphone
very
quickly,
I'd
like
to
ask
you
a
question
if
I
can
and
as
you're
walking
up,
I
don't
want
you
to
reiterate
what
you
just
said.
I
just
have
a
it's
on
the
record
and
I
think
we've
heard
it
and
it's
in
the
it's
in
the
record.
So
I
think
what
I
heard
you
say:
you're
you
wanted
a
smaller
home
is
that
which
is
that?
What
you're?
Looking
for.
M
What
we're
looking
for
is
the
mass
and
scale
to
be
consistent
or
more
compatible
with
what's
in
the
neighborhood.
So
what
I
was
explaining,
where,
for
example,
when
they
showed
you,
the
the
top
down
view
of
the
properties
and
the
property
next
door
and
said
that
it
comes
out
four
feet?
Well,
it
doesn't.
It
comes
30
feet
beyond
the
house.
It
comes
four
feet
beyond
the
next
door,
neighbor's
pool,
but
so
those
are
the
types
of
things
when
you
take
a
1
600
square
foot
house,
it's
a
1,
600
square
foot
house.
M
This
is,
I
believe,
27
or
2,
800,
plus
the
garage
so
but
livable
square
footage
level
square
footage
1600
to
2700.
So
what
we
were
looking
for
was
mass
and
scale
that
are
more
compatible
with
those
lots,
because
everything
else
has
been
built
on
the
pads,
the
flat
part
of
the
lots
they
didn't
generally
slope
down
and
contour,
because
they
weren't
maximizing
the
space
understanding
that
you
know
with
a
developer.
There's
a
different
motivation
and
a
desire
to
maximize
the
square
footage.
M
Q
Okay,
great,
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
back
up.
I
appreciate
it
david.
I
want
to
ask
you
a
question.
If
I
can
I'm
going
to
ask
the
applicant
the
same
question,
so
you
might
want
to
listen
up
here
if
you
were
to
put
25
feet
as
a
setback
on
this
particular
lot,
what
kind
of
do
you
know?
What
kind
of
pad
you
would
have?
It
seems
like
you'd,
have
a
shack.
R
Well,
it
would
change
the
dynamic
in
terms
of
how
they
address
hydrology
issues,
because
at
the
back
of
the
lot
there
kind
of
is
a
natural
drainage
feature
that
occurs
so
yeah.
It
might
impact
the
size
of
the
structure
if
it
is
pushed
further
back.
The
other
thing
that
comes
into
play
here
is
within
the
mesa
neighborhood
many
of
the
streets
are
offset
from
the
center
or
the
middle.
You
know
the
main
kind
of
traveling
through
the
middle
of
the
right-of-way
area.
R
Q
Great,
could
I
have
the
applicant
address
the
same
question
if
you
were
to
have
to
move
it
back
25
feet?
What
would
happen.
O
There
so
we
had
three
options:
the
first
one
was,
if
you
look
at
310,
had
no
encroachment
in
the
front
setback.
I
helped
help
me
out
what
I'm
looking
at
the
diagram
on
the
left.
Okay,
thank
you.
It
was
deemed
too
far
out
into
the
hillside.
We,
they
said
it's
really
consistent
with
the
neighborhood
to
be
10
15
feet
from
the
garage
to
the
property
line.
So
why
don't
you
explore
that
and
bring
the
whole
house
back?
O
Both
houses,
then
on
the
third
submittal
on
the
right,
were
brought
further
forward
towards
the
street,
with
the
fif,
with
the
request
for
the
15-foot
setback,
minor
modification
and
earlier
to
your
question
as
or
part
of
the
question,
also
talks
about.
What's
really
buildable
the
area
in
gray,
highlighted
in
gray
on
these
topographical
underlays
shows
the
portion
of
the
site,
that's
30
or
greater,
which
we
were
told
by
the
engineering
department.
O
A
Are
there
other
questions,
comments
for
from
council
councilmember
coors,
all
right.
R
N
Okay,
so
that
wouldn't
have
gone
to
the
planning
commission
at
all
correct.
Okay,
that's
what
I
thought
and
that's
why
we
changed
the
rules,
because
this
is
way
too
long
for
any
project
to
be
getting
to
us
at
this
stage.
That
aside-
and
I
understand-
and
I
went
to
the
site
and
the
steepness
and
those
issues.
N
R
R
So
when
staff
looked
at
some
of
these
issues,
you
know
we
go
back
to
what
we
understand
is
kind
of
the
documents
that
we
typically
see
or
we
use
to
guide
us
when
we're
making
a
decision
for
sequa
and
sql
exemption,
so
typically
that
that
involves
the
cvms
hcp,
the
multi-species
habitat
plan
to
address
you
know
wildlife
and
habitat
issues
to
you
know
to
mitigate
areas
that
should
be
protected
and
then
preserve
areas
that
are
identified,
as
you
know,
conservation
areas,
so
that
under
that
document,
these
houses
fall
or
these
lots
fall
with
or
fall
outside
of
the
protected
area.
R
So
we
didn't
see
that
as
being
an
issue
when
it
comes
to
hydrology
and
flooding
there
is,
there
has
been
issues
relative
to
flooding
that
have
been
identified.
There
has
been
pictures
submitted
of
homes
that
have
dealt
with
this
issue,
but
you
know
under
current
standards,
when
we
evaluated
it,
we
had
to
evaluate
it.
You
know
on
to
ensure
that
flooding
when
it
happens,
it's
being
conveyed
appropriately
and
it's
not
impacting
adjacent
structures
to
current
standards.
R
So,
as
I
mentioned,
the
engineers
have
confirmed
that
the
latest
iteration
of
their
preliminary
hydrology
plan
does
meet
city
standards
relative
to
flood
and
hydrology
issues.
R
Lastly,
I'll
just
state
that
the
argument
about
number
of
homes
when
we
looked
at
that
issue,
we
identified
that
there
are
two
applications
on
file
with
the
city
we
have.
The
applicant
has
mentioned
that
he
does
on
adjacent
lots
and
he
may
or
may
not
develop
those
lots
and
until
the
city
has
received
an
application,
we
have
not
identified
more
than
two
lots
as
being
developed
under
sql.
So
that's
kind
of
the
basis
for
that
that
decision,
great.
N
N
R
So
I
think
you
know
it
we
would
evaluate
those
applications
as
they
came
in
so
if
we
did
under
you
know,
if
there
were
two
more
applications
that
came
in
or
one
more
application
and
we
are
looking
at
it,
the
whole
picture
is
you
know
the
cumulative
impact
with
that.
R
Can
we
still
make
that
finding
that
I
mean,
I
guess
that's
a
question
we'll
have
to
answer
when
that
comes
in.
But
at
this
point
you
know,
that's
not
something
we
made
it
a
basis
for,
because,
under
the
current
evidence
that
we
have
it's
there's
only
two
applications
before
the
city,
and
I
don't
know
if
the
city
attorney
has
their
thoughts
about
that.
But.
M
I
will
say
the
letter
raises
some
interesting
questions
from
a
sql
perspective.
You
know
it's
my
understanding
that
when
this
application,
these
two
applications
came
in,
there
wasn't
really
discussion
about
developing
the
other
lots.
M
Those
lots
are
across
the
the
canyon,
so
a
court
might
say
they
really
aren't
this
the
same
part
of
this
process,
but
I
think
we'd
want
to
really
look
at
that
and
if
the
council
is
inclined
to
overturn
the
planning
commission's
decision,
I
think
we'd
want
to
have
the
council
give
us
direction
to
go
back
and
address
the
letter
so
that
we
have
that
in
the
record,
for
for
council
approval
of
this
project.
If
the
council
is
inclined
to
go
that
direction.
C
Thank
you
very
much
like
council
member,
of
course,
going
first,
because
you
asked
the
same
questions
as
me,
so
good
job.
Thank
you
for
that.
I
was
going
to
do
the
exact
same
thing.
I
just
have
a
follow-up
question.
C
If
I
can
so
on
page
674
of
680
pages
for
the
first
item
to
a
it's,
the
letter
from
cdfw
california,
department
of
fish
and
wildlife,
so
their
letter
states
that
they're
remarking
on
the
case
and
stating
that
case
occurs
within
or
directly
adjacent
to
the
santa
rosa
and
san
jacinto
mountains
conservation
area
described
in
the
mshcp.
C
C
R
M
C
I
C
Okay-
and
I
just
have
one
more
question
for
city
staff,
if
I
can
so,
we
heard
the
public
comment
and
the
neighbors
discuss
the
mass
and
scale
of
the
neighborhood
and
fitting
within
being
consistent
with,
and
then
we
heard
the
applicant
or
appellant.
Now,
I'm
talking
about
the
comparison
to
the
houses
directly
surrounding
versus
the
overall
neighborhood.
So
could
you
just
comment
on
staff's
opinion
about
which
to
compare
to,
and
if
these
proposed
projects
it
sounds
like
staff
had
just
determined
and
recommended
that
it
fits
the
mass
and
scale
of
the
neighborhood.
R
Yes,
so
the
you
know,
the
neighborhood
is
quite
eclectic:
there
are
mid-century
modern
structures,
there's
spanish
influence
structures.
Obviously,
when
it
comes
to
the
the
more
mid-century
lineal
horizontal
massing
of
of
the
of
that
design,
it
can
create
more
of
a
massing
effect,
but
in
terms
of
how
the
project
has
evolved
through
the
design
process.
I
think,
in
terms
of
our
recommendation,
we
felt
that
it
was
compatible
and
can
not
out
of
character
for
the
homes
in
the
neighborhood,
because
there
are
homes
that
some
you
have
two-story
designs
in
that
neighborhood.
C
C
Staff
has
decided
to
these
two,
but
if
all
five
were
being
brought
forward,
it
might
need
additional
analysis.
But
I'm
trying
to
like
wrap
my
head
around
the
logic
of
if
other
people
private
entities
bought
the
other
parcels.
If
if
they
were
bought
by
all
individual
people,
they
could
all
develop
single-family
homes
so
with
the
exemption.
So
what's
the
justification
and
what's
the
reasoning
for
sequa
to
require
additional
review
right.
M
So
that
that's
actually
a
good
question,
so
the
exemption
that
we're
relying
on
right
now
is
an
exemption
for
construction
of
new
homes
up
to
three
homes,
and
so
with
two
homes.
We
believe
it
would
fit
within
that
within
the
parameters
of
that
initial
part
of
the
exemption,
if
there
are
other
lots
that
are
being
proposed
or
contemplated
by
this
developer.
C
M
A
David
planning
commission
made
determination
that
the
these
properties
are,
as
proposed,
are
not
harmonious
to
the
relationship
of
adjoining
developments
in
the
neighborhood.
What
is
the
discretion
that
the
planning
commission
has
and
what
are
the
factors
that
they
should
take
in
coming
to
their
judgment?.
R
So,
under
the
prior
architectural
review,
ordinance,
which
is
the
ordinance
that
was
in
effect
at
the
time
these
applications
were
submitted,
there's
several
criteria
that
they
do
have
to
consider
to
to
approve
an
application.
You
know
those
relate
to
site,
layout,
orientation
of
structures
and
relationship
to
open
spaces
and
topography.
So
all
those
things
they
do
take
into
consideration
when
looking
at
a
project,
they
talk.
R
The
criteria
also
talks
about
harmonious
relationship
with
existing
and
proposed
adjoining
developments
in
the
context
of
the
immediate
neighborhood
and
then
height
setbacks
all
the
development
centers
that
are
typically
required
of
a
single
family
home.
So
in
general
you
know,
as
I
said,
the
three
that
they
could
not
find
were
relative
to
those
findings
and
then
the
minor
modification
application
for
the
setback
and
the
height.
R
A
And
so
the
height,
though,
is,
is
a
critical
issue.
Is
it
not
yes,
yep
the
and
most
particularly
at
at
the
corners.
R
A
Are
there
other
questions
or
is
it
time
to
move
to
council
member
comments
I'll
go
ahead,
council
member
woods.
Q
You
know
I
I
actually
looked
at
a
house
around
the
corner
to
buy
so
and,
and-
and
you
know
you
look
at
two
houses
down
or
three
houses
down,
and
it's
a
pair
from
I'm
looking
at
the
map
right
now.
It
appears
that
it's
less,
it's
not
25
feet
set
back
from
the
street,
so
I
I
would
agree
with
staff
that
it's
very
a
collected,
compare
which
actually
gives
the
the
area
its
charm.
Q
Q
During
this
whole
long,
it
sounds
like
a
very
long
process
they
went
through.
Did
we
look
at
so?
Let
me
back
up.
The
pools
are
actually
built
are
being
put
on
the
buildable
pad
that
the
that's
in
the
white
up
there.
If
you
look
on
three
the
little
square,
which
is
the
buildable
pad,
where
a
house
could
actually
go
not
a
pool,
was
that
a
w?
Q
R
Because
they
felt
that
orient
the
structure
and
the
the
design
should
be
pushed
closer
towards
the
street
to
reduce
its
impacts.
On
the
back
of
the
lot.
Q
Wait,
I
I'm
not
sure
I
understood
that
because
you.
R
So
it
did,
it
did
extend
out
towards
the
rear
in
that
in
that
iteration.
So
that's
why,
when
they
were
looking
at
they,
I
think
the
committee
felt
that
it
wasn't
necessarily
that
they
had
to
push
the
structure
back,
but
they
because
it
does
have
you
know
greater
impact
at
the
rear
when
you're,
where
it's
a
much
lower
elevation.
R
So
that's.
Why
then,
when
they
brought
back
the
revised
design,
they
pushed
it
forward,
but
I
think
that
the
app
can
provide
more
details
on
kind
of
how
they
their
thought
process
was
on
the
design.
Iterations
did
we.
Q
Can
we
get
that?
Would
you
mind
you
know
briefly
and
was
that
a
request
from
aac
or
how
did
that
happen?.
O
J
O
Sentiment
was
that
we
should
go
back
to
the
previous
one,
but
just
try
to
pull
it
back
further
to
the
street
so
that
it's
not
overhanging
the
hillside
as
much.
That's
why,
in
the
end,
we're
about
15
to
16
feet
less
than
we
originally
submitted
again
just
to
comment,
because
I'm
an
architect
and
I'm
technical
pools
are
very
heavy
structures.
O
C
Can
I
ask
a
follow-up
question
of
you?
I
think
you
had
said
you
just
referenced
it
that
the
city
staff
had
talked
to
you
about
grading
and
what
was
allowable?
Could
you
just
describe
that
conversation
and
what
was
told.
O
It
was
explained
to
us
that
on
hillside
lots
that
slopes
that
exceed
30
percent,
don't
allow
grading
and
the
term
basically
changing
the
the
level
creating
pads
putting
in
foundation
walls
that
would
all
be
considered.
Grading
in
that
area
now
peers,
that's
a
different
story:
you're
just
going
directly
down
you're,
not
altering
the
the
natural
slope.
That's
why
the
the
original
designs
were
proposed.
The
way
they
were.
G
This
has
been
such
a
lengthy
process
with
so
many
meetings.
We
had
two
outreach
meetings
with
the
neighbors,
and
one
issue
that
did
come
up
was
the
location
of
these
pools.
G
They
did
not
want
to
see
them
the
ones
I
talked
to
did
not
want
to
see
them
in
the
front
yard
or
in
the
rear
yard,
necessarily
because
of
the
noise
because
of
the
the
exposure
within
the
canyon
there
in
the
rear
to
all
the
other
homes
and
then,
of
course,
the
same
thing
on
the
front
they
didn't
being
that
they're
closer
to
the
street.
They
didn't
want
to
have
all
the
noise
from
the
activity
that
a
pool
would
thank
you
demonstrate,
so
that
was
also
part
of
the
reason
for
that.
C
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
and
I
appreciate
your
frustration
in
the
process
and
I
apologize
that
it's
been
so
long
and
it's
not
how
the
process
that
we
intend
the
process
to
work
and
that's
why
we
changed
the
process
and
made
it
shorter
and
also
reduce
the
amount
of
continuances
and
things
like
that.
So
apologize
for
the
delay
and
the
cost.
A
A
When
you
look
at
some
of
the
homes
that
are
in
the
neighborhood
that
are
substantially
larger,
they
have
much
greater
footprints
that
they
set
into
and
they
sit
into
the
topography
of
the
property
in
a
vastly
different
fashion
than
what
these
homes,
as
proposed
to
the
cantilever
and
the
extent
that
they
come
out
into
the
back.
It
pushes
them
well
beyond
anything
else.
That's
in
the
neighborhood,
when
you
look
at
the
homes
that
one
two
three
up
crest
view
those
homes
sit
into,
do
not
extend
out
into
the
canyon.
A
A
I
really
appreciate
how
hard
we
have
worked
and
the
applicant
has
worked,
and
the
community
has
worked
to
try
to
get
this
to
a
point
where
there
could
be
something
that
could
be
approved.
The
reason
it
has
taken
so
long
is
not
because
our
process
is
broken,
but
because
the
challenges
of
building
on
these
lots
are
so
severe.
N
N
My
concern,
though,
which
is
where
I'm
still
I
won't
say
confused
struggling,
is
on
sequa
and
I
agree
with
council
member
hostage.
It
seems
really
odd
that
if
they
were
doing
three
and
sold
the
other
two
and
someone
else
brought
the
other
two,
then
it's
fine,
but
because
they
own
the
others,
it's
not,
and
so,
and
obviously
sql
lawsuits
can
cost
both
of
sides
a
lot
of
money,
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
would
we
be
looking
at
a
different?
C
I
don't
have
an
answer.
I
think
I
heard
staff.
I
agree
with
your
position,
so
I
appreciate
mayor
middleton
and
in
your
analysis
there
I
think
I
agree
with
what
was
just
said
with
council
member
coors.
But
what
I
heard
staff
say
and
that's
my
position
is
to
do
further
sql
analysis
and
respond
and
analyze
that
letter
and
respond.
Whenever
there's
attorneys
involved
and
there's
we've
received
attorneys
on
all
the
sides.
We
served
received
a
lot
of
letters
and
analysis
here.
C
B
M
N
N
M
City
were
to
approve
the
project
and
we
were
sued
by
the
by
the
by
anybody.
The
developer,
the
applicant
b
would
be
required
to
indemnify
us
and
basically
pay
the
city's
legal
costs
for
defending
the
lawsuit.
Q
There
is
a
very
historic
house,
there's
many
historic
houses
in
this
neighborhood,
but
one
of
them
is
called
ship
of
the
desert,
and
it
is
a
very
famous
house
here
in
palm
springs
and
I
just
pulled
up
a
picture
of
it.
I'm
sorry,
I
can't
put
it
up
there.
I,
I
guess
I
can
pass
it
around
to
my
council
members,
but
it
actually.
You
know
it
is
not
much
different
in
scale
than
what
they're
looking
at.
Q
It's
is
further
away
from
the
neighbors
than
that,
but
it's
it
sticks
out
over
the
canyon
and
it's
predominant
from
the
street
view.
This
particular
project
won't
be
predominant
from
the
street
view
only
the
canyon
view,
so
I'll
just
pass
my
phone
around
and
share
that
with
people,
but
I
think
there's
precedence
in
the
neighborhood
already
of
you
know
different
homes
and
homes
that
are
bigger
and
homes
that
are
smaller,
and
I
don't
know,
as
I
have
that
big
of
an
issue
with
it.
Thank
you.
Q
And
city
attorney
help
me
here
and
we'll
see
if
there's
a
second
for
it,
I
would
overturn
the
planning
commission
with
the
with
a
review
of
the
legalities
in
regards
to
the
letter
that
we
received
from
from
the
homeowners
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
I'll
tell
you
my
justification
for
it.
I
think
the
mayor
said
it
very
clearly.
The
lots
are
almost
unbuildable
unless
we
give
some
give
to
make
it
happen.
I
don't
want
to
strip
somebody
of
a
right
to
build
in
the
palm
springs
area
or
only
build.
Q
I
think
it
was
quoted
a
900
square
foot
home
in
the
city,
and
so
I
I
just
I
you
know
I
I
think
they've
gone
through
a
very
long
process
to
try
and
get
something
that
works.
I
think
the
neighbors
have
been
very
involved,
which
I
totally
applaud.
Q
M
I
might
just
try
to
help
frame
that
motion.
My
recommendation
would
be
that
that
direction
be
given
to
staff
to
work
with
the
applicant
to
come
back
and
bring
back
a
resolution
for
consent,
calendar
action
at
the
next
available
meeting,
whereby
we
would
address
the
the
findings
that
you've
just
articulated,
as
well
as
responding
to
the
sequel
issues.
Q
That's
my
motion.
Okay,.
A
Now,
we've
we
finished
with
public
comment.
Is
there
a
second.
C
I
will
second
that
motion
with.
I
don't
think
it
has
to
be
a
friendly
amendment,
because
I
think
it's
included
in
including
the
staff
findings
that
are
in
the
resolution
to
overturn
the
planning
commission
right
what
you
intended.
Thank
you
absolutely.
A
A
All
right,
we
have
reached
10
o'clock,
and
that
is
the
hour
in
which
we
move
forward
with
non-agenda
public
comments.
So
could
we
make
those
phone
calls.
B
H
H
We
recently
arranged
meetings
with
the
palm
springs
police
force
to
discuss
our
concerns
regarding
crime
in
the
city
and
what
ensued
was
an
informative
discussion
regarding
the
challenges
that
our
understaffed
police
force
is
facing.
While
trying
to
manage
the
number
of
9-1-1
calls,
they
are
finding
it
ever
more
difficult
to
meet
with
the
high
demand
in
a
timely
fashion
and
to
keep
up
with
the
city's
growing
needs,
which
concerns
us.
H
A
Then
we
are
past
10
o'clock,
we
have
two
items
left
plus
city,
council
and
comments
and
requests
to.
We
want
to
proceed
with
both
of
the
two
items.
A
All
right
all
right
does
anyone
need
a
break
before
we
proceed
all
right,
then
we
will
move
forward.
We
have
finished
items
three
a
and
three
b
previously.
This
is
item
three
c:
an
increase
in
the
annual
limit
of
household
consultant
services,
agreement
with
less
our
development
consultants.
Staff
report.
Please.
S
Thank
you,
madam
mayor,
and
no
mayor
pro
tem
member
city
council.
S
So
when
the
agreement
with
lasar
development
consultants
was
first
approved,
our
estimate
of
the
work
to
be
done
was
110
000
annually
for
up
to
four
years.
So
that's
a
total
agreement
for
four
hundred
forty
thousand
dollars
and
we
structured
that
agreement
to
have
yearly
increa
one
year
options,
because
we
were
also
in
the
process
of
trying
to
hire
a
housing
services
administrator.
S
Unfortunately,
we,
despite
having
two
offers
made,
still
do
not
have
anyone
in
that
position,
so
as
a
workload
for
lasar
increased
as
they
helped
us
with
establishing
an
access
center,
creating
a
network
of
homeless
service
providers,
closing
affordable
housing,
financings
and
planning
and
financing
for
the
navigation
center.
S
We
had
to
rely
on
lasar,
more
and
consequently,
the
rate
of
expenditures
increased
to
the
point
where
we
believe
it's
necessary
to
increase
the
amount
of
the
not
the
not
to
exceed
amount
for
this
agreement,
so
that
they
can
continue
their
work
on
the
high
priority
items
that
they
are
working
on
and
what
we've
come
up
with
them
is
to
increase
the
annual
not
to
exceed
amount
to
255
000
annually.
S
Now,
these
projects,
as
you
know,
are
paid
for
through
the
hap
10
million
dollar
state
grant
and
through
the
former
redevelopment
agency.
Affordable
housing
funds.
However
we're
finding
the
vast
majority
of
their
work
is
with
homelessness.
At
this
point
and
moving
forward,
there's
still
a
substantial
amount
of
work
that
needs
to
be
done,
particularly
for
the
navigation
center,
which
would
include
holding
stakeholder
and
community
outreach
meetings,
creating
and
facilitating
a
resident
advisory
working
group.
S
S
And
you
know,
as
we
do,
that
we
are
still
concurrently
trying
to
add
more
staff
to
the
department
so
that
our
reliance
on
outsource
outside
resources
would
would
be
decreased.
C
Thank
you
so
much
jay.
Thank
you
for
all
your
work.
I
have
a
question.
There
was
public
comment
about
including
a
nexus
study
or
other
analysis
for
inclusionary
policies
or
other
affordable
housing
policies
that
the
city
is
considering.
So
could
you
just
comment
if
that
would
be
properly
included
here?
Maybe
this
is
the
question
for
the
city
manager
properly
included
in
this
agreement
or
increasing
the
limit
to
do
that
work.
C
We
also
heard
a
public
comment
from
a
desert
highlands
leaders
asking
about
work
to
frankly
overcome
the
down
zoning
that
the
city
did
in
the
90s
for
some
of
those
lots
and
developing
some
of
those
parcels
like
coachella
valley,
housing
coalition
did,
which
I
know
the
city
council
has
interest
in.
So
could
you
just
comment
if
that
work
should
properly
be
done
in
this
or
added
to
this
agreement?.
S
Yes,
I
believe
I
would
have
to
check
with
them
on
the
nexus
study.
I
believe
that
can
get
to
be
quite
technical,
although
they
do
have
expertise
in
assigning
or
determining
new
commercial
development
and
the
need
for
housing
associated
with
that.
S
That's
my
understanding
of
a
nexus
study
and
inclusionary
housing,
and
as
far
as
overcoming
the
down
zoning
that's
established,
they
can
definitely
assist
with
that,
but
I
would
think
our
capable
planning
department
could
also
in
working
with
our
capable
planning
department,
would
also
help
accomplish
that
unless
there
are
other
particular
issues
to
be
addressed
on
that,
I
should
also
mention
they've
already
started.
Looking
at
possibilities
in
the
desert.
Highlands
community
and
one
of
the
recommendations
they've
been
pursuing
is
a
community
land
trust
where
city-owned
properties
could
be
developed.
S
The
building
would
be
owned
by
an
individual.
The
land
would
be
retained
by
the
city,
and
so
the
building
and
any
built-up
equity
could
be
sold,
but
the
city
would
retain
the
land.
So
that
was
one
proposal
they
had
that
they
thought
might
fit
the
needs
for
the
city
at
this
time,
so
they
could
flesh
that
out
more
and
it's
it's
already
in
our
agreement
for
them
to
work
on
that
type
of
work.
A
We're
going
to
move
on
to
item
4d
to
general
plan,
limited
update,
a
review
of
revisions
to
the
general
plan,
vision
and
priority
statements
and
draft
land
use
plan,
and
just
before
we
get
into
this
council
member
woods
is
conflicted.
A
R
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
and
council
members.
As
you
recall,
we
reviewed
the
vision
and
priority
statements
for
the
2040
general
plan
on
a
few
occasions,
most
recently
at
your
march
10th
meeting
where
we
discussed
changing,
making
some
minor
changes
to
our
vision
statement
and
some
other
changes
to
our
priorities.
So,
based
on
that
discussion
that
we
had
on
march
10th,
I've
consolidated
priority
number
10
and
new
priority
number
two
in
the
list
of
of
those
that
we
had
identified
at
that
time
into
other
priorities
and
removed
those
from
the
priority
list.
R
R
So
going
sorry
going
into
the
vision
statement.
This
is
this
is
primarily
the
only
one
I
wanted
to
just
touch
on.
We've
removed
some
language
relative
to
the
individual's
experience
here
in
palm
springs,
so
we
took
out
the
words,
relaxing
and
positive
and
replaced
it
just
to
say
we
have
an
enjoyable
experience.
R
We
also
removed
the
word
resort
and
made
some
other
adjustments
to
the
text.
So
what
you
see
on
the
right
is
the
proposed
vision
statement,
and
so
those
are
that's
really
the
only
thing
I
really
wanted
to
touch
on.
If
there's
any
questions
on
the
other
items
that
other
changes
that
I
made
to
the
priorities,
I'm
certainly
happy
to
answer
those
questions,
but
I
believe
that
the
items
you
see
in
your
staff
report
are
consistent
with
the
discussion
that
was
had
back
on
march
10th.
A
David
councilmember
woods.
Q
Just
to
comment
david
and
I'm
looking
at
on
page
3d
dash
4
on
the
far
right
column,
which
is
what
the
amend
on
the
bottom
it
says,
foster
enhanced
opportunities
for
open
space
retention
and
expansion
that
allows
for
neighborhood
access
through
palm
springs
and
its
adjacent
areas.
Q
I
personally
think
that's
fine,
but
I
think
we
should
say
foster
enhanced
opportunities
for
open
space
period.
Not
all
open
space
is
going
to
actually
lead
to
allow
access
and
then,
after
the
period
we
can
just
keep
the
same
thing
but
make
it
a
complete
sentence.
Does
that
make
any
sense,
so
it
would
say,
foster
and
enhance
opportunities
for
open
space
period,
and
then
it
could
say
something
like
find.
You
know
whatever
the
beginning
is
retention
and
expression
that
allows
neighborhood
through
palm
springs.
A
That's
an
increase
of
almost
50
percent
of
the
number
of
housing
units
in
the
city.
What's
the
time
frame
that
that's
projected
to
take
place
over.
R
So
the
figure
in
the
middle,
the
current
general
plan,
the
48
507.
That
was
what
was
in
our
2007
general
plan.
We
obviously
haven't
achieved
that
as
of
2022,
so
it's
just
you
know
in
this.
If,
for
whatever
reason,
palm
springs,
just
started,
booming
and
redevelopment
started
occurring
and
people
started
maximizing
or
getting
close
to
higher
density
limits.
R
I
don't
maybe
I
wasn't
being
clear
the
these.
These
are
really
just
projections
for
us
to
do
the
environmental
analysis
necessary
under
the
general
plan.
The
arena
numbers
that
we
have
are
about
2
500
units
that
are
required
within
the
eight
year
period.
2500.
A
Right
and
how
far
along
are
we
in
planning
for
those
2
500
units
over
the
course
of
the
next
eight
years.
R
So
we've
identified
all
the
sites
that
we
believe
would
accommodate
all
of
those
units
in
the
eight
year
period,
whether
or
not
that
comes
to
fruition
ultimately
depends
on.
A
Number
of
factors
do
we
have
that
map
available.
R
The
land
use
map
we
do
have
as
a
part
of
our
presentation.
It
is
one
of
the
attachments,
but
it
doesn't
identify
the
specific
parcels
that
are
part
of
the
2500
units.
A
And
I'm
not
advocating
that
we
jump
ahead
to
do
that
and
most
clearly
this
evening,
but
I
think
we
do
need
to
take
a
look
particularly
eight
years,
ten
years
out
and
identify
what
are
the
housing
goals
that
we
need
to
meet
and
to
borrow
language
that
came
from,
I
think
the
city
manager,
what
are
the
the
most
viable
properties
for
us
to
take
and
have
that
build-out
take
place.
If
we're
gonna
get
serious
about
meeting
the
housing
needs
of
this
community,
we're
going
to
have
to
identify.
A
A
A
Okay,
the
next
question
I
had
and
actually
does
come
to
a
very
specific
question
with
regard
to
boulders
and
crescendo.
A
So
there's
been
a
tremendous
amount
of
debate
and
discussion
on
these
properties
going
back
for,
I
think,
20
years,
if
not
longer,
we
have
received
a
letter
from
oswit
land
trust
asking
that
these
properties
be
designated
as
open
space,
and
that
certainly
has
been
the
desire
of
any
number
of
individuals.
There's
also
been
very
strong
opposition
at
times
too,
to
that
what
would
be
the
appropriate
process
for
bringing
before
city
council
a
discussion
as
to
whether
or
not
these
two
properties
should
be
identified
as
open
space.
R
Then,
obviously,
if
it's
a
smaller
area,
that
would
be
less
of
problematic.
But
if
we're
looking
at
the
three
areas
that
we've
identified
in
the
report,
it's
the
the
boulders
property,
the
crescendo
property
and
the
palm
hills
property
we
did.
We
did
receive
comments
from
members
of
the
public
and
preservation
organization
or
conservation
organizations
relative
to
these
sites
and
preserving
them
or
retaining
them
as
open
space
or
changing
the
designations
to
open
space.
R
R
R
R
In
the
center
of
the
map-
and
that
is
described
as
having
up
to
1200
units
if
a
specific
plan
is
adopted
so
when
accounting
for
these
three
areas,
which
have
been
the
kind
of
most
talked
about
relative,
to
changing
the
designations,
to
open
space
in
totality
you're,
looking
at
roughly
1300
units,
1320
or
so
units
that
would,
we
would
have
to
address
elsewhere
in
our
land
use
plan
sure.
So
that
means
finding
density
somewhere
else
because
of
sp
330,
the
state
law
that
says
cities
cannot.
R
A
Yeah-
and
I
really
appreciate
that
background,
but
I
wasn't
trying
to
get
to
a
debate
or
a
discussion
as
to
whether
we
should
or
should
not
do
this,
but
to
ask
the
question:
how
would
we
entertain
that
debate?
How
would
we
bring
that
those
issues
before
us
and
given
that
boulders
and
crescendo
are
owned
by
the
city
and
palm
hills
is
privately
owned?
It
would
seem
that
it
would
be
appropriate
to
deal
with
those
properties
or
to
deal
with
palm
hills
separately
from
boulders
and
crescendo
councilmember
coors.
N
Thank
you
for
raising
that
you
know
we
did.
We
had
set
up
a
process
before
our
city
manager
worked
with
us,
where
we
were
gonna,
actually
try
and
get
from
brokers
what
the
properties
are
actually
worth.
So
we
can
share
with
the
public.
N
You
know:
are
they
worth
a
total
of
8
million?
As
some
say?
Are
they
worth
more
than
35
million?
As
others
say,
and
we've
had?
You
know
appraisals,
but
things
have
changed
since
we
did
those.
So
we
could
then
have
an
educated
conversation
right
and
the
people
who
are
opposed
to
any
development
there,
and
you
know
I
appreciate
open
space.
N
I'm
a
big
proponent
didn't
want
us
to
even
do
that,
but
I
think
it's
hard
to
have
the
conversation
and
I
think
director
veronica
did
a
great
job
in
getting
us
a
plan
and
was
supposed
to
come
back
to
us,
and
I
don't
know
if
covet
hit
and
just
never
came
back
to
us,
but
that
was
a
couple
years
ago
and
because
I
think
what
in
my
view,
we
need
to
do
is
actually
know
the
value.
N
If,
let's
just
argue,
if
there
were
30
million,
it
may
not,
for
some
people
won't
change
anything
what
they're
worth
they
may
not
change
it
for
any
of
us,
but
the
public
has
the
right
to
know
that
information
before
we
make
a
decision,
and
so
I
think
it
would
be
useful
to
have
that
and
the
other
piece
which
we've
talked
about
but
was
just
having
a
sense
as
we
look
out
at
the
long-term
build
out
of
the
city
right,
which
I'm
getting
to
all
those
numbers
very
soon,
but
what's
the
priority
for
open
space,
what's
the
priority
for
housing,
what's
the
priority
for
commercial
industrial
and
do
this
in
a
global
way,
so
it's
smart
and
strategic
instead
of
one-offs,
but
in
the
meantime-
and
it
would
have
you
know
it
would
affect
right.
N
There
is
this
the
issue
we
have
to
find
other
place
for
the
density.
In
the
meantime,
one
of
them
has
to
get
a
specific
plan.
That's
privately
owned,
the
other
two
are
owned
by
the
city
and
we're
not
doing
anything
to
have
them
developed
so
they're
de
facto
open
space
at
the
moment
for
all
intent
purposes,
which
is
what
people
want.
N
They
don't
want
to
see
people
who
don't
want
to
see
them
built
they're
not
going
to
be
built
until
we've
gone
through
a
process,
and
I
just
wanted
to
do
it
smartly,
and
these
may
be
the
top
three
properties
for
open
space,
but
I
don't
want
doing
it.
One-Off
is
not
wise,
in
my
view,
and
I
don't
know
where
we
fit
that
in
time-wise,
but
it
wasn't
in
the
next
couple
months.
I
know
that
for
certain,
so
maybe
city
manager
can
weigh
in.
P
So
even
in
that
analysis,
what
we
could
do
with
those
city
parcels
not
more
broadly
but
start
to
maybe
rank
them
in
terms
of
opportunity
for
housing,
and
then
we
could
also
look
at
them
from
the
perspective
of
their
value
for
open
space
start
a
conversation
from
there.
That
would
address
the
planning
component
outside
of
that
process.
P
At
any
point,
we
could
place
on
the
agenda
again,
make
a
decision
to
move
forward
with
brokers
or
anything
else
that
might
help
us
to
understand
value,
but
that
might
be
when
we
come
back
and
look
at
them
from
the
perspective
of
housing
and
open
space
might
be
the
ideal
time
to
do
that,
because
you
might
even
identify
a
few
other
parcels
that
are
city
holdings.
Where
you
want
to
do
the
same
thing
and
we
could
do
it
all.
At
the
same
time,.
N
A
With
that,
I
think
that
covers
my
question
specific
to
boulders
and
crescendo.
If
we
want
to
welcome
mr
councilmember
woods
back
in.
A
All
right
welcome
back
and
so
that
exhausts
my
questions.
Are
there
any
questions
from
any
other
member
of
council
council
member
woods.
Q
Q
I
understand
it's
from
skag
by
the
footnote,
but
I
wonder
if
that's
actually
accurate,
because
we
have
so
many
second
homes
here
that
are
not
occupied
so
to
have
48
thousand
900,
almost
49
000
occupied
and
51
547
housing
units
seems
off
when
we
know
we
already
have
2
000
vacation
rentals,
it
seems
like
that
spread
should
be
more
than
what
it
actually
is,
and
I
don't
know
if,
if
I
know
it's
not
our
analysis,
but
maybe
we
need
to
talk
to
skag
about
that,
and
they
may
not
know
the
region
as
quick
as
as
well
as
we
do,
and
we
probably
now
with
str's,
probably
have
better
information
to
give
them.
R
Yes,
I
think
in
terms
of
what
the
table
is
really
trying
to
get
towards,
we
identify
what
we
believe
is
existing
in
the
first
column.
So
we
believe
that
you
know
from
the
data
that
we
we
have.
We
have
23
000,
currently
households
and
housing
units
35
524.,
our
2007
general
plan
identified.
R
You
know
at
the
full
potential
build
out
if
we
were
to
develop
all
the
the
land
uses
to
their
to
the
kind
of
the
greatest
extent
and
what's
the
greatest
impact
when
we're
looking
at
the
environmental
analysis
side
of
of
the
project,
how
much
you
know
can
we
does
our
circulation
network?
Is
it
able
to
handle
that
capacity?
R
You
know.
Do
we
have
all
of
the
you
know?
What
are
the
kind
of
the
impacts
overall
with
having
that
higher
number
of
households
being
developed
in
the
city
and
then
of
course,
as
you
say,
if,
in
the
event,
the
city
you
know
currently,
we
we
say
65
occupancy
rate
that
that
could
be
higher
or
lower.
R
I
mean
if,
depending
on
you
know,
vacation
rental
status
in
the
city,
but
for
planning
purposes
what
we
we
look
at
when
we're
trying
to
ensure
that
the
plan
addresses
all
of
the
impacts
that
were,
you
know,
might
that
need
to
be
considered
when
looking
at
the
potential
build
out
of
the
city?
That's
when
we
start
looking
at
these
higher
numbers,
these
higher
occupancies
in
the
general
plan.
C
R
R
Madame
no
motion
is
required
tonight.
It's
really
just
direction
to
understand
that
staff
has
the
plan
is,
as
you
see,
appropriate,
and
that
the
vision
and
priorities
are
basically
what
we
were
discussed
last
time.
So
we,
I
think
we
have
our
direction
and
thank
you
great.
A
N
P
Council,
if,
if
you're
wanting
to
see
the
future
meetings,
tentative
meetings.
N
N
We
go
okay,
we
have
a
picture,
so
I
have
the
pleasure
and
honor
of
being
part
of
eisenhower
health's
dedication
of
their
plaza
to
seoul
primary
care
facility,
the
name
to
allen
brimble
and
richard
lyle
jones,
and
it's
the
first
of
eisenhower
facility
in
the
city
of
palm
springs
to
be
named
and
the
first
time
they've
nev
ever
named
anything
after
a
same-sex
couple
and
they
two
gentlemen
made
a
very
significant
donation,
as
they
have
over
years
to
eisenhower
medical
center
in
honor
of
their
50th
wedding
anniversary.
N
So
it's
just
a
really
nice
ceremony,
and
it
was
just
a
reminder
that
you
know
the
philanthropy
in
palm
springs
and
in
this
valley
makes
the
difference.
It
does
because
you
know
eighty
percent
of
the
patients
that
eisenhower
sees
are
either
medical
or
medicare
and
to
provide
the
health
care
at
the
level
they
do
would
not
be
possible
without
that
philanthropy.
N
So
I
just
want
to
thank
thank
them
for
being
here,
so
people
have
options
in
healthcare,
but
really
congratulate
the
two
gentlemen
on
this
great
honor
and
on
their
50th
wedding
anniversary,
it
was
a
really
nice
ceremony.
Thank
you
mayor.
A
Thank
you
other
comments
from
council,
and
I
do
have
a
few
and
one
that
I'll
take
a
little
bit
extra
time
for
first.
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
tomorrow
evening,
between
7
and
8
p.m,
is
the
annual
kesq
find
food
bank
telethon?
A
This
is
a
great
opportunity
to
give
to
the
community,
and
I
really
encourage
everyone
who
can
to
tune
in
to
ksq
tomorrow
between
seven
and
eight
for
the
find
food
bank
and
I'll
be
honored
to
be
there
representing
the
city
and
calling
out
and
accepting
donations
as
they
come
in
last
thursday,
we
attended
the
senior
inspiration
awards
at
fantasy
springs.
It's
one
of
the
really
wonderful
events
in
the
coachella
valley.
A
There
were
11
different
seniors
that
were
recognized
for
their
lifetime
of
achievements
and
contributions
and
our
own
kathy
cohn
from
the
sunrise
park,
neighborhood
represented
palm
springs
and
winning
that
award
within
the
last
week.
We
have
had
the
palm
springs.
Air
museum
have
a
couple
of
really
big
events.
The
opening
of
the
james
houston
hangar,
as
well
as
their.
A
Museum
gala,
which
was
a
really
well-attended
event:
the
american
legion
just
recently
celebrated,
or,
I
should
say,
memorialized
the
50th
anniversary
of
the
last
combat
troops,
leaving
vietnam
and
it
was
really
a
good
event
on
march
29th
to
see
so
many
vietnam
veterans.
A
A
We
will
be
joined
by
assembly
member,
laura
friedman,
who
sponsored
and
really
spearheaded
ab43
passing
36
different
street
segments
are
getting
reduced
speeds
because
of
this
you
can
start
to
see
them
now
around
town,
and
I
want
to
congratulate
the
engineering
department
for
where
they
put
a
new
speed
limit
that
is
lower.
We've
got
a
couple
of
red
flags.
A
On
top
of
those
speed
limit
signs
at
10
45,
we
will
do
a
ceremonial
unveiling
at
the
corner
of
laverne
and
toledo
of
one
of
those
new
speed
limit
signs
that
are
lower
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
seeing
an
awful
lot
of
people
from
toledo
present
at
that
next.
I
want
to
make
some
comments
on
behalf
of
council.
A
With
regard
to
some
of
the
controversy.
That's
occurred
based
on
actions
that
we
took
here
in
city
council
on
march
24th,
and
there
has
been
a
tremendous
amount
of
reporting
in
the
media
regarding
the
universal
basic
income
or
guaranteed
income,
a
proposal
that
came
before
us.
A
None
of
that
200
000
is
going
to
provide
benefits
in
the
form
of
income
to
anyone.
That
is
not
what
we
approved.
We
approved,
providing
funding,
so
the
dapn
queer
works
could
provide
an
application.
A
A
A
Individuals
who
are
very
thrilled
to
hear
about
the
possibility
of
this
program
and
individuals
who
are
very
angry
about
it,
have
reached
out
to
many
of
us
and,
frankly,
very
cons
confused
as
to
what's
actually
going
on
so
we're
trying
to
make
it
clear.
No
program
has
been
put
into
place.
A
No
funding
commitment
beyond
the
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
has
been
made
by
the
city
of
palm
springs.
If
and
when
an
additional
funding
proposal
would
need
to
come
to
us
that
would
come
after
the
state
of
california
has
made
decisions
as
to
what
they
would
fund
or
not
fund.
A
A
A
A
We
can
debate
whether
or
not
these
programs
are
appropriately
public
policy,
and
we
had
very
much
that
discussion
two
weeks
ago
and
that
discussion
will
continue
across
this
country.
But
singling
out
one
group
for
abuse
does
not
advance
the
interests
of
the
country,
the
city
or
anyone
else.
Thank
you.
A
P
P
If
there
aren't
any
other
suggestions,
I
would
just
direct
your
attention
to
the
tentative
upcoming
meeting
schedule.
We
do
have
a
fairly
good
size
agenda
for
april
21st.
I
want
to
point
out
two
study
sessions.
The
first
few
we've
had
have
been
at
the
end
of
the
month.
That's
consistent
with
the
month
of
april,
where
we
have
our
first
budget
study
session
on
april
25th
because
of
the
way
schedules
worked
out.
We
have
another
study
session,
just
right
around
the
corner.
From
that
on
may
4th.
P
P
N
Oops
there
we
are
for
may
12th.
We
tentatively
have
a
cvet
program
review.
I
know
we
talked
about
that
at
our
last
meeting
or
the
one
other,
and
I
think
well,
I
think
we're
all
on
board
with
you
know
getting
a
short
update
from
them.
We
really
wanted
more
staff
analysis
and
given
bandwidth,
I
think,
if
you
know,
there's
more
time
needed,
given
our
limited
economic
development
staff
at
the
moment,
to
do
that.
N
I
think
that
might
make
sense
instead
of
trying
to
cram
something
in
that
there's
just
not
the
time
to
do
right
right,
I
think
that's
been
going
on
a
long
time
and
other
things
have
come
up
and
you
know
their
staffing
shortages,
like
everyone
else
that
you're
trying
to
hire
so
I'd,
be
comfortable,
kicking
that
back
in
order
to
make
sure
you
know,
you
and
staff
have
the
time
to
sort
of
do
some
analysis
on
this,
and
we
can
really
think
about
this
in
a
more
comprehensive
way.
P
Thank
you
that
that
is
helpful.
I
know
we
had
made
some
similar
notes.
Last
time
we
talked
so
that
was
going
to
be
one
of
the
items
that
wasn't
going
to
come
back
as
urgently,
but
we
may
need
to
at
least
catch
up
on
the
funding
arrangement
so
that
we
can
take
that
additional
time.