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A
B
A
B
A
C
A
B
Thank
you.
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
move
item
number
two
best
signs
to
the
consent
calendar.
Do
I
have
a
second
from
any
of
the
committee
members
to
do
that?
Second,
second,
all
in
favor.
B
F
B
Okay,
this
is
a
public
hearing
flynn
has
anybody
from
the
public?
Let
you
know
that
they
want
to
talk
on
an
item
not
on
the
agenda.
B
Okay,
so
then,
I
think
we
can
move
forward
to
new
business
item
number
three
cbm2
hotels
for
a
minor
architectural
application
to
improve
the
building,
facade
and
add
an
864
square
foot
fitness
center
at
the
courtyard
barbaria,
located
at
1300,
east,
chocolates,
canyon
way,
planning
director.
I
live
within
a
500
mile
radius
of
that
project,
so
I
will
be
recusing
myself
from
this
discussion
and
vote.
C
Yes,
so
this
is
item
number
three
cb2
hotels
will
be
for
a
minor
architectural
application
proposing
facade
modernization
to
do
this
already,
an
addition
of
an
864
square
foot
fitness
center
at
the
courtyard
by
marriott
hotel,
locate
located
at
1300
east
conference
canadian
way.
Do
we
have
a
report
from
the
staff.
C
G
Right,
okay,
so
this
is
the
courtyard
by
marriott,
which
is
on
top
of
its.
The
property
was
built
in
the
early
80s
and
there
has
not
been
any
renovation
in
the
property
since
then
so
they're
here
to
freshen
up
and
redo
the
the
project.
G
So
it's
149
unit
resort
hotel.
There
have
been
no
significant
modifications
to
any
exterior
of
the
project,
we're
looking
to
change
the
front,
facade
and
modernize
it
and
at
an
864
square
foot,
fitness
center
addition
at
the
back,
the
rear
of
the
property
off
of
the
the
pool
courtyard
area,
and
also
to
do
some
landscape
upgrades.
G
So
this
is
a
photograph
of
the
front
that
puerto
you
come
in
you'll
see
it's
got
a
hip
roof
they're,
looking
to
remove
the
hip
roof
and
add
a
flat
roof
and
then
add
other
elements
to
the
exterior
of
the
entryway.
G
The
materials
that
they're
proposing
to
use
includes
a
veneer
ledge
stone
at
the
bottom
of
the
columns,
a
fiber
wall
panel
and
wood
grain
appearance
for
the
vertical
elements
where
the
sign
will
go
and
the
proposed
they're
going
to
also
clad
the
stairwells
which
are
on
the
front
facade.
As
you
can
see
in
this
photograph
here
and
then
paint
the
exterior
of
the
building
in
a
light
gray
and
then
darker
gray,
for
accents
and
then
the
barrel
towel
roofs
will
stay.
The
same.
G
I'd
like
to
point
out
in
the
rear.
The
top
of
this
project
you'll
see
the
little
864
square
foot
fitness
center.
That
will
be
added
as
proposed.
G
So
here
are
some
design
elements
on
the
stair
element
stairwells.
So
it's
horizontal
wood
veneer
pattern.
Now
you
have
building
architectural
drawings
in
your
packet,
and
this
is
of
the
north
elevation
of
the
fitness
center
building.
G
You'll
see
that
it's
it's
a
hip
roof,
but
the
hip
angle
is
a
little
bit
different
than
the
rest
of
the
building
and
staff
was
proposing
that
a
different
angle,
maybe
sort
of
a
more
cubed
look
or
a
box,
be
proposed.
That
would
hide
the
ac
units
on
the
roof.
G
In
this
perspective,
you'll
see
that
the
facades
are
are
all
glass.
Instead,
there
is
no.
H
G
G
Here
is
another
elevation
showing
how
the
hip
grooves
and
then
the
the
well,
where
the
ac
units
will
sit
as
far
as
landscape
they're,
looking
to
redo
portions
of
it
towards
the
front
where
the
sign
is
where
the
engine
into
the
ricochet
is
and
they're
proposing
a
series
of
different
types
of
plants:
succulents
grasses,
perennials
ground,
covers
pellegri
trees
and
then
different,
shrubs
to
add
color
and
the
landscaping.
So
in
your
pack,
there's
a
plant
schedule
showing
the
quantities
and
sizes
and
then
material
board.
G
C
C
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you
and
the
applicant
is
present,
so
you
have
ten
minutes
to
present
and
two
minutes
of
rebuttal
if
desired.
After
any
public
comment,.
I
I
think
I
think
I'd
like
michael
harper,
our
our
designer
to
to
start
off.
If,
if
he
doesn't
mind.
J
Sure,
yeah
yeah,
I
mean
the
presentation,
pretty
cool
covered
it
pretty
clearly
yeah,
it's
just
modernization
of
an
existing
building.
The
stack
stone
is
just
around
the
columns
at
the
portica
share.
The
pork
chair
has
been
thinned
out,
it'll
be
metal,
metal,
one
correction:
there
will
be
a
metal
cladding,
underneath
the
portico
share
in
a
dark
bronze.
J
The
nichija,
which
is
a
cedar
wood
material,
be
kind
of
added
around
all
the
all
the
entryways
to
get
some
warmth
to
the
to
the
property
and
building
these
feature
frames
out.
You
know
the
fitness
center
on
the
back
is
in
addition,
we
did
go
through
some
options
on
reducing
the
hip
roof.
Trying
to
keep
the
unit
on
the
roof
code
requires
a
10
foot.
J
You
know
clearance
around
that
and
guard
rails,
so
we
felt
like,
even
if
you
went
to
to
a
flat
roof
system,
it
would
just
be
a
really
large
box
at
that
point.
It'd
be
almost
a
two-story
box
with
smaller
windows
at
the
bottom,
so
we
kind
of
felt
like
the
hip
root.
Roof
was
the
way
to
go,
even
though
there
is
about
a
eight
nine.
Ten
percent.
More
angle
to
to
that
roof
than
the
other
roofs,
but
the
presentation
covered
it
pretty
well,.
I
I
think
I
think
the
only
thing
that
I
would
add
to
that,
and
and
again
I
believe,
staff
characterize
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
very
well
as
far
as
the
fitness
center
goes,
we
feel
like
we
feel
like
the
original
design
is,
is
more
in
keeping
with
the
character
of
the
courtyard
you'll
notice
that
all
of
the
all
of
the
new
modern
elements
are
on
the
exterior
of
the
of
the
building
but
the,
but
the
interior
courtyard
is
just
getting
painted,
and
most
of
most
of
the
elements
that
that
are
already
there
are
remaining,
and
we
feel
like
the
introduction
of
the
the
boxier
vertical
type
of
of
of
architecture
is,
is
not
in
really
not
in
keeping
to
our
way
of
thinking
to
the
character
of
the
courtyard.
I
So
we
we
we
would.
We
would
like
to
like
to
ask
you
to
to
allow
us
to
keep
the
original
design
and,
if,
if,
if
you
would
like
us
to
look
at
some
type
of
sunscreen
element,
that's
fine.
You
know
we
can
certainly
look
at
that.
I
As
you
know,
as
an
addition,
or
as
a
an
extension
of
of
the
of
the
the
roof
structure,
but
we
really
do
after
looking
at
a
couple
of
a
couple
of
options,
we
really
feel
like
the
the
options
provide
it's
just
not
in
keeping
with
the
character
of
the
interior
courtyard.
The
way
it
is.
C
Okay,
is
there
any
public
comments.
C
Okay,
thank
you
so
now,
if
there's
any
questions
from
the
committee
to
the
applicant,
this
is
the
time
for
it.
So
do
we
have
any
questions.
H
Oh
one
brief
question:
the
worker
share:
has
I
see,
there's
not
an
extensive
number
of
lights,
but
can
you
tell
me
about
the
lighting
feel
what
what's
going
on
there?
We
don't
have
a
spec
on
that
and
you
know
how
how
bright?
What's
there's?
No,
it's
very
linear
and
clean
and
it
can
be
very
warm
or
it
can
be.
You
know
a
little
over
overbearing.
So
what's
your
design.
J
Typically,
we're
looking
for
a
warm
feeling
to
kind
of
go
along
with
the
the
wood.
I
believe
we've
designed
to,
I
think
it's
15
foot
candles
kind
of
around
the
space.
We
don't
want
it
to
be
over
bright
at
night.
There
is
a
linear
light
that
runs
through
the
feature
frame
right
behind
the
porca
share
that
will
shine
down
on
the
on
the
nichija
wood
material,
to
kind
of
give
it
a
graze
across
that,
and
the
two
stairwell
elements
too,
we'll
have
linear
lights
in
there.
J
That
will
do
a
kind
of
a
wall
wash
on
the
on
the
niche
on
those
locations
too.
H
F
C
No,
how
about
number
polite
nope.
C
I
This
this
is
a
prototypical
rebranding
for
the
for
courtyard
by
marriott
it
was
it
was
developed
several
years
ago
and
pretty
much.
All
of
the
elements
are
consistent
with
other
with
other
older
courtyard
properties
that
are,
that
are
being
re-imaged,
as
this
is
called.
The
the
the
port
cachet
element
and
the
feature
frame
at
the
front
is
very,
very
consistent
with
what
you'll
see
eventually
with
with
all
of
the
older
courtyard,
by
marriott
properties.
I
C
Okay,
and
is
it
this
consistency,
is
it
consistent
with
the
material
choices
and
colors
as
well.
C
Okay
and
then
for
mr
harper
on
the
fitness
center.
What
is
the
roof
slope
on
that
compared
to
the
the
existing
building.
J
The
existing
building
the
two
little
roofs
to
either
side
of
it,
they're
smaller
ones,
they're
about
they're
about
an
eight
percent
and
the
fitness
center,
I
think,
is
about
a
twelve
percent.
C
Okay
and
is
there,
is
there
a
rationale
between
behind
having
the
height
of
the
roof
of
the
space
inside?
I
think
it
was
11
foot
three
clear.
Do
I
have
that
right.
J
Yeah,
typically
with
fitness
equipment
because
of
jumping
and
moving
and
kind
of
weightlifting,
and
all
that
we
try
to
get
as
high
as
ceiling
as
possible.
Within
that
space,
you
can
you
do
find
in
some
older
properties,
you
get
a
lower
ceiling
at
10
feet,
but
sometimes
it
just.
It
feels
cramped
some
people,
sometimes
some
people
hit
it
if
they're
taller
on
on
the
equipment.
So
we
try
to
get
as
high
as
possible.
11
foot
is
the
comfort
comfortable
range.
J
C
And
then
the
other
question
is
that
I
have
is
for
the
rooftop
equipment
on
the
on
the
fitness
center.
Do
you
need
that
larger
well,
or
can
it
be?
Can
it
be
made
more
compact.
J
I
do
well
I've
got
to
have
some
air
clearance
around
the
unit
to
to
allow
circulation
within
the
unit
and
and
the
intake
and
then
maintenance
around
the
unit.
So
it's
it's
sized
kind
of
based
on
that.
You
know
clearance
around
the
unit
to
work
on
it
and
and
all
the
air
intake
I
could.
We
could
definitely
go
back
and
relook
at
and
see
if
we
could
drink
it
a
little
bit.
I
just
worry
that
it's
going
to
become
a
maintenance
issue.
J
You
know
down
the
road
with
with
reducing
the
airflow
into
the
unit.
C
J
Yeah
yeah,
the
other,
the
other.
We
can
look
at
reducing
well.
The
other
thing
we
run
into
is
because
because
the
code
requires
a
guard
rail,
basically
a
42
inch
guard
rail
around
any
piece
of
equipment
on
the
roof
within
10
feet.
So
I've
got
to
have
that
42
inch,
rail
and
I
don't
want
to.
I
don't-
want
to
lower
the
parapet
and
then
have
to
put
like
a
bar
or
metal
yeah.
I
think
that
would
that
would
definitely
reduce
the
aesthetic
look
of
it.
So
we,
you
know
we
have
thought
about.
J
C
All
right
are
there
any
other
questions.
C
No,
then
that
will
conclude
the
questions
and
the
committee
will
discuss.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation.
C
Okay,
all
right
so
remember
wash
any
comments.
D
Or
yes,
a
few
that
kind
of
occurred
to
me
that
I
I
think
I
would
sort
of
break
them
into
first
of
all
the
center
being
put
back
there
it
it
doesn't
have
much.
You
know,
certainly
no
street
presence
to
it,
that
that
is
impactful.
D
D
D
I
kind
of
think
a
bigger
problem,
though,
is
you
know
in
staff
report
number
five.
The
guidelines
you
know
touch
on
architectural
harmony
and-
and
lack
of
this
is
a
tough
thing
to
do
to
to
incorporate
these
two
types
of
architecture,
and
it
you
know
my
sort
of
thinking
on
it
is
it's
a
little
more
of
an
all
or
nothing
thing.
I
think
one
of
the
problems
is
you're,
going
to
sort
of
stand
back
at
street
level
on
chocolates
and
and
see.
D
You
know
the
the
expression
of
some
of
these
modern
improvements
and
and
the
background
behind
them
is
the
balance
of
the
hotel
and
both
in
terms
of
the
form,
the
massing
and
and
the
materials.
D
So
I
think
it's
kind
of
problematic
it's
it's
interesting
that
it
has
been
tried
and
incorporated
as
sort
of
a
a
repeated
corporate
upgrade
in
terms
of
imaging.
D
F
Yeah,
I
I
tend
to
agree,
I
mean
yeah,
I
like
the
design
of
the
cork
share
and
what
they're
trying
to
do,
but
again,
when
you
see
it
right
next
to
the
sort
of
spanish
tile
roof.
It
feels
like
it's
kind
of
very
alien
on
in
in
the
layout,
so
I
think
there
could
be
a
little
bit
better
job
to
integrate
the
design
style
between
the
two.
You
know-
maybe
quite
not
going
quite
so
modern
with
the
new
piece,
so
that
does
integrate
a
little
bit
better.
F
I
mean
the
other
option
I
was
thinking
was
potentially,
if
the
and
again
it's
a
cost
issue,
but
if
the
roof
could
be
painted
or
stained
a
darker
color
to
match
the
darker
brown
that
could
possibly
work,
but
I'm
you
know
not
sure
if
that's
an
option
and
then
with
the
fitness
center.
I
kind
of
agree.
It's
it's!
It's
not
on
the
street.
F
So
it's
not
that
concerning,
but
I
think
if
we
did,
if
you
did,
increase
the
eaves
the
depth
of
the
eaves,
that
would
give
you
a
shallower
roof
pitch
and
give
you
some
additional
shading
for
the
for
the
glass
as
well.
That's
my.
H
I
concur
with
what
has
been
said
so
far.
The
my
other
concern
with
the
structure
out
by
the
pool
is
that
it,
the
color,
is
specked
as
pure
white
and
then
you
have
glass
and
you
have
a
swimming
pool
reflecting,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
very
unpleasant
experience
on
the
exterior
of
that
building
the
with
the
landscape.
H
The
planting
spaces
that
are
being
added
are
a
bit
abrupt
with
such
a
broad
lawn.
The
current
look
of
perennials
and
lawn
has
been
long-standing
palm
springs,
look,
and
I
appreciate
the
change
over
up
on
the
street
to
some
desert
landscape,
but
you
might
want
to
look
at
expanding
some
of
that
to
make
it
flow
a
little
bit
easier.
H
Also,
the
plant
sizes
are
quite
small,
which
most
of
them,
I
think,
will
work
in
your
elevated
planters
with
room
to
grow,
but
for
your
impact
out
on
the
street,
you
know
a
five
gallon
planted
at
on
ten
foot.
Centers
of
a
slow
growing
plant
is
not
something.
That's
really
gonna.
Give
you
a
lot
of
impact
that
I
think
you're
looking
for
with
a
trying
to
create
a
warm
welcoming,
look
to
a
hotel.
E
Nothing
too
much
to
add.
I
agree
with
what
other
folks
have
been
saying
here
about
maybe
some
of
the
abruptness
between
the
new
facade
enhancement
along
the
street
frontage
south
facing
facade
in
a
little
bit
of
a
departure,
and
not
necessarily
in
a
way
that
unifies
the
the
aesthetics
of
the
facade
here.
It
also.
K
E
Kind
of
a
sort
of
a
maybe
this
was
the
intent
but
sort
of
reminds
me
of
an
old
western
facade
of
a
building
here,
where
it's
just
kind
of
this
fake,
false
facade
to
it,
which
I
think
is
a
little
bit
troubling
there
as
you
can
see,
when
you'll
be
pulling
up
around
the
poor,
cashier
they're
driving
up
and
seeing
this
kind
of
side
section
elevation
of
the
building,
some
of
the
other
things
I
don't
particularly
have
a
problem
with
the
white
collar,
it's
out
back
by
the
pool,
but
the
roof,
I
think,
is
a
somewhat
simple
change.
E
The
roof
well,
which
I
think
is
where
you
were
going
robert,
was
seems
really
oversized
and
maybe
a
slight
expansion
of
the
overhang
and
then
pulling
in
the
top
end
of
that
roof
slope
a
bit
so
shrinking
the
the
well
as
you
called
it
on
the
roof,
seems
like
a
pretty
simple
solution.
It
looks
like
there's
ample
room
and
still
get
plenty
of
airflow
around
that
equipment.
C
All
right,
thank
you,
yeah,
so
I'm
pretty
much
in
agreement
with
the
comments
previously
stated.
I
think
the
proposed
upgrade
for
the
entrance
really
does
not
flip
the
building
it.
It
conflicts
with
it.
C
It's
not
consistent
and
I
think
long
term,
in
another
10
years,
when
you
decide
to
do
another,
upgrade
you're
gonna,
you're,
you're,
basically
taking
something
that
a
protocol
share
an
entrance
statement
that
fits
the
building
you're,
removing
it,
and
then
you
know
in
10
years
time,
there's
going
to
be
another
corporate
upgrade
and
you've
got
this
weird
anomaly
sitting
on
this
building.
C
So
I
think
I
would
really
like
to
see
another
alternative
that
utilizes
the
existing
protocol
share
and
maybe
adds
to
it
in
a
way
that
is
consistent
with
the
rest
of
the
building.
C
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
white
paint
color
proposed
or
the
light
gray
paint
color,
but
when
you
get
to
the
charcoal
in
black,
I
think
it's
really
inconsistent
and
will
be
a
real,
a
very
stark
contrast
to
the
building
one.
That
is
not
necessarily
beneficial,
and
the
other
comment
I
have
is
about
the
use
of
the
stone.
It
seems
very
arbitrary
just
to
have
it
at
the
base
of
the
columns.
C
If
you're
going
to
introduce
a
new
material,
you
should
look
at
other
places
that
it
can
be
utilized
so
that
there's
a
consistency
again
around
the
building,
with
using
the
stacked
stone
and
on
the
fitness
center.
I
would
like
I
would
like
to
see
you
come
back,
maybe,
and
look
at
either
reevaluating
the
roof
slope
and
and
however,
you
want
to
do.
That
is
fine,
but
I
think
you
also
need
to
introduce
some
sort
of
shade
element
around
the
glazing,
especially
on
the
south
and
west
elevations.
C
All
right
I'll
make
a
motion
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
deny
and
ask
them
to
come
back
and
respond
to
the
comments
that
we
have
made.
Do
we
need
to
review
those
flynn
and
glenn.
C
I
think
so
anybody
else
do
we
miss
anything.
No,
I.
D
F
A
B
Thank
you
very
much
to
robert
for
being
the
chair
during
that
last
item.
We're
now
going
to
move
to
item
number
four,
the
dbk
group
for
a
minor
architectural
application
to
expand
the
existing
shamrocks
irish
pub
into
an
adjacent
tenant
space
and
modify
the
exterior
facade
located
at
238
north
palm
canyon
drive.
A
L
L
L
L
They
are
proposing
to
apply
a
coat
of
eggshell
white
paint
on
the
building
wall
and
they
install
a
decorative
vertical
metal
elements
which
will
wrap
around
the
existing
circular
columns
on
the
sidewalks.
L
Staff
recommends
that
the
aac
approve
the
plans
subject
to
the
staff
recommendation,
stating
the
staff
memo,
which
is
the
removal
of
the
painted
portion
of
the
columns.
This
green
and
the
orange
the
accent
element
on
the
columns,
and,
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
our
staff's
recommendation
and
this
concludes
the
staff
presentation.
An
applicant
and
staff
are
both
available
to
respond
any
questions
you
may
have.
Thank
you.
B
M
Got
it
well,
hello,
everybody
just
this
is
a
pretty
easy
one,
I'm
sure
for
you
guys,
but
basically
right
now,
shamrocks
pub
it's
currently
a
small
bar
with
a
lot
of
patrons,
and
we
just
simply
need
to
give
them
some
more
space
building
owner
owns
that
entire
building
and
leases
out
that
retail
space
and
currently
the
lease
is
up
it's
just
month
to
month.
E
Gone,
did
you
say
sean
tom?
Yes,
sean,
yeah,
there's
a
parapet
detail
in
the
build
on
the
building
now
currently.
M
M
We
were
just
going
to
get
rid
of
that
little.
You
know
detail
that
indent.
M
D
John
walsh,
yeah
I
can,
can
you
expand
a
little
bit
on
the
on
the
material
of
the
columns?
It
almost
looks
like
anodized
aluminum
tube,
perhaps
correct.
M
Yes,
it's
going
to
be
anodized,
aluminum
or
painted
in
a
dark
like
oil,
rubbed,
bronze,
color,
we're
not
sure.
Yet
we
haven't
finalized
the
actual
material.
But
it's
supposed
to
be
a
very
dark,
either
dark
brown
or
black,
two,
probably
two
by
two
going
up
all
the
way
around
the
columns
we're
just
trying
to
mask.
M
It
would
just
be
the
painted
the
same
color
as
the
build,
and
what
would
that
material
be
so
right
now,
it's
that
those
existing
columns
on
the
inside
caged
in
with
that
two
by
two
material.
So
just
instead
of
seeing
the
difference
in
brick
and
stucco,
it
would
all
be
painted
white
on
the
inside.
Okay.
D
And
then
another
question
is
there?
There
is
an
enlarged
perspective
section
drawing,
and
I
see
it
looks
like
the
the
supporting
structure
that
spans
from
the
columns
near
the
curb
back
to
the
building
will
be
replaced.
Is
that
the
case
we
were
just
gonna
fill
it
in
okay?
When
I
look
at
the
detail,
oh
I
could
show
you.
D
M
M
B
I
have
a
comment
where
you're
painting
the
mural.
If
you're
standing
at
crystal
fantasy
or
coming
down
the
palm
canyon
sidewalk,
you
can
see
the
mechanical
equipment
on
the
roof.
It
appears-
and
I
hope
this
is
correct-
that
you're
raising
the
height
of
that
wall
to
match
the
higher
parapet
on
the
front
of
the
building
and
that
will
that
will
camouflage
that
mechanical
equipment.
B
B
I
think
they'd
have
a
little
more
character
in
keeping
with
the
building
and
the
metal
fluting
kind
of
reminds
me
of
timberwood
that
everybody
used
in
the
80s
and
90s
and
just
seems
a
little
like
you
aren't
really
updating
anything
and
the
overall
character
of
this
is
more
of
a
spanish
or
mediterranean.
Because
of
the
roof
tile
and
the
exposed
woods
and
then
it
seems
like
you're
trying
to
go
quite
contemporary
with
the
metal
on
the
columns.
So
how
do
you
did
you
consider
some
other
options
or
could
you.
M
We
did-
and
this
was
just
one
of
those
I
know
the
owner-
has
a
very
good
metal
vendor
that
he
works
with
and
we
were
just
you
know,
trying
to
save
him
some
cost.
So
that
was
reasoning
really
behind
it,
and
we
also-
I
don't
know
if
you've
been
to
palm
desert
at
the
leaf
on
el
paseo,
we
used
a
metal
called,
not
wood,
going
up
the
paneling
of
the
building
and
everybody's
loved
it
so
far.
B
Okay,
thank
you
any
other
questions
for
the
applicant
okay.
Thank
you,
stephen.
Our
committee
will
have
a
discussion
and
we'll
give
you
a
result.
Thank
you
who
wants
to
give
their
first
comments.
B
E
A
Mr
lock
here,
yes,
there
is
a
separate
process
through
murals
those
go
through
the
public
arts
commission
and
then
to
city
council.
So
if
they'd
like
to
do
a
mural
at
a
future
date,
they
would
need
to
go
through
the
process
for
that.
So
as
part
of
your
consideration
today,
we
will
not
be
approving
a
mural
okay.
E
Yeah,
what
one
other
so
back
to
my
comments
as
I
look
at
the
existing
building,
it
looks
like
there
may
have
been
more
land
or
some
landscape
at
one
time.
Currently,
there's
there's
almost
none,
and
so,
as
you
travel
south
down
palm
canyon,
there's
that
large
sort
of
planter
bed
and
there's
two
mexican
fan
palm
trees.
E
It's
going
to
be
just
north
of
the
north
patio
of
the
building
and
and
then
where
this
murals
propose.
I
mean
it
all
just
looks
like
a
kind
of
a
hot,
arid
lot
of
hard
on
hard
surfaces
here,
horizontal
and
vertical,
and
I
mean
I
might
just
encourage
some
landscape
improvements
to
occur
here
as
well.
And
so
I
don't
see
much
of
that.
E
I'm
not
quite
sure
about
these
these
columns
either
or
that
I
really
under
quite
understand
the
complete
detail
around
how
the
columns
are
transforming
to
metal
and
what
that
looks
like
and
the
same
with
the
trellis.
I
heard
something
about
continuing
just
what's
there
with
the
wood
trellis,
but
I'm
I'm
not
100
sure.
E
E
I
can't
quite
tell
whether
anyone's
thought
about
were
removed,
they're,
removing
that
up
to
a
certain
consistent
point,
I'm
not
quite
sure
if
you
guys
can
see
what
I'm
talking
about
there
well
there's
kind
of
a
bump
out
of
the
tile
area
over
the
sidewalk.
D
E
E
Is
there
a
is
that
in
the
lighting
plan
here
or
is
that
being
altered?
It's
probably
a
question.
Sorry,
I
didn't
ask
earlier.
M
We
weren't
changing
any
of
the
outside
lighting
and
as
far
as
the
landscape,
I
don't
think
the
building
owner
owns
that
parking
lot.
I
think
it's
as
a
city-owned
lot,
but
we
can
always
add
that,
or
maybe
add
some
pots
around
for
some
landscape
to
soften
it
up.
You
know
kind
of
around
the
front
edge.
E
What
sort
of
looks
like
a
tile
sidewalk
there's
a
planter
area
there
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
in
between
the
sidewalk
and
sort
of
that
natural
stone,
veneer
wall
where
the
parking
begins
and
there's
three
mexican
fan
palms,
looks
like
a
large
bed
of
planting
there.
That
may
be
what
you're
saying
is
not
a
part
of
this
owner's
project.
But
I
wonder
if
this
was
something
that
was
included
or
a
planted
that
was
included
in
the
development
of
this
project.
A
Yeah,
mr
lock,
here
I'll
go
ahead,
and
here
if
there
are
any
missing
landscape
materials
from
when
the
project
was
first
approved,
we
as
staff
will
go
ahead
and
take
care
of
that
upon
the
permitting
stage
for
this
project.
So.
E
M
And
then
to
answer
the
trellis,
ideally,
what
we
would
like
to
do
is
the
way
we
drew
it
right
here.
Well,
you
can
see
it
where
it
where
we
remove
the
tiles
coming
forward
and
we
have
the
trellis
wood
going
all
the
way
across
and
that'll
just
be
all
whatever
is
rotted
out
we're
going
to
change
and
paint
it.
E
You,
you
said
a
few
minutes
ago
that
you're
just
going
to
keep
what's
existing
there
and
continue
that
the
existing
trellis
with
some
material
further
down
towards
the
south-
and
I
guess
potentially
east
and
cover
up
the
areas
that
are
voids
currently
there's
a
whole
lot
of
that
ent
conduit,
there's
several
different
types
of
lights.
Now,
there's
some
are
facing
out.
E
M
Yeah
at
this
point
we
didn't
have
a
plan
because
we
were
just
kind
of
trying
to
extend
the
the
bar
area,
but
I
mean
it's
something:
we
can
definitely
update
some
lights
and
get
rid
of
that
emt.
Maybe
while
we're
doing
the
trellis,
we
can
move
the
move
it
underneath
the
trellis,
so
you
don't
see
it
from
the
street.
E
E
C
So,
on
the
very
south
end
of
the
the
shade
structure,
there's
there's
you'll
see
that
there's
a
cantilever
of
a
beam
and
there's
no
supporting
problem,
and
yet
on
your
elevation,
you
show
the
the
trellis
structure.
Continuing.
Are
you
going
to
be
adding
a
new
column
over
there.
M
I
I
think,
where
the
renderer
just
assumed
there
was
one
there.
I
think
we
would
just
have
it
can't
delivering
over.
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
add
another
coin.
C
Okay
and
then
in
the
packet
we
received
there's
a
sort
of
bizarre
photo
of
a
pair
of
feet
and
some
like
concrete
and
my
guess
is
and
then
there's
a
another
picture
of
some
of
the
tile
work.
That's,
I
think
part
of
the
concrete
part
of
the
patio
and
where
it
meets
the
concrete.
So
is
there
a
plan
to
replace
that
or
what?
What
are
you
doing
about
the
flooring
material.
M
Okay,
so
the
first
picture
page
six,
so
that
with
the
feet,
that
is
the
existing
tile
inside
of
shamrocks,
okay.
M
Be
extended
into
the
new
area,
it
also
goes
on
to
the
patio,
so
the
patio
and
the
new
seating
area
will
all
have
that
same
tile,
extended.
C
M
C
Okay,
all
right
well
it'd
be
interesting
to
see
how
you
resolve
structurally,
the
that
south
cantilever,
with
the
addition
of
patrols
weighing
on
that,
and
my
assumption
is-
and
I
is
just
to
clarify
this-
is
the
section
where
the
tile
roof
extends
forward.
Some
of
that's
getting
cut
back
and
being
ready.
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you.
B
John
john
walsh,
no
I'm
fine
thanks!
Okay,
I
have
a
comment
when
you
look
at
the
photos
towards
the
very
back
of
our
packet,
that
are
the
the
vertical
photos
you
can
see
underneath
the
trellis,
and
it
appears
that
the
tile
is
just
sitting
on
the
trellis,
I'm
wondering
if
all
of
the
tile
should
be
removed
to
end
up
with
just
that
three
or
four
foot
strip
against
the
building.
B
It's
not
really
adding
any
shade
quality
or
waterproofing
to
anybody
on
the
sidewalk
or
in
the
in
the
patio,
and
it
might
take
away
this
conflict
of.
Is
this
a
spanish-style
building?
Is
it
a
contemporary
building
where,
if
we
saw
the
new
round
columns
and
the
wood
trellis
just
going
up
to
the
pair
put,
I
think
that
cleans
it
up
a
lot
and
and
makes
it
kind
of
a
somewhat
more
cohesive.
F
Yeah
just
quickly
that,
on
the
flooring
discussion,
the
terracotta,
the
existing
terracotta
tiles
are
those
going
away
as
part
of
this
and
being
replaced
with
the
other
top.
M
What's
on,
the
sidewalk
is
is
staying
only
you
know.
What's
within
the
building,
space
is
being
replaced,
okay
and
just
texting
with
the
architect.
He
said
he
thinks
that's
a
good
idea
too.
We
don't
mind
taking
off
all
the
tile
and
just
making
it
a
trellis.
It's
not
a
bad
idea.
We
were
just
trying
to
keep
keep
that
blend
of
look
and
the
buildings
around.
It
all
have
the
tile.
So
that's
why
we
were
kind
of
trying
to
keep
it.
B
Thank
you,
I
think
we've
heard
from
anybody.
Does
anybody
have
a
final
additional
comment
before
we
get
a
motion
who
would
like
to
give
me
a.
B
That's
on
the
building
I
can
see
up
on
this
shamrock
sign
is
one
issue,
but
where
it's,
where
it's
painted
vertically
on
the
sides
of
the
column,
does
anybody
on
the
committee
have
any
strong
feeling
pro
or
con
on
that.
E
B
Yeah,
I
think,
as
far
as
the
color,
I
don't
think
it
adds
any
character
of
the
building
and
I
think
it
makes
it
look
a
little
gaudy.
So
I
don't
I,
I
would
not
be
in
favor
of
those
orange
and
green
just
such
little
small
panels
as
they
are
on
the
sides
of
the
columns.
Let
the
irish
influence
happen
inside
the
pod.
C
More
discussion
tom
at
first
I
liked
your
idea
of
removing
the
tile
and
because
the
tile
looks
kind
of
like
it
needs
some
work.
But,
as
I
think
about
lighting
in
one
of
the
comments
I
was
going
to
make
was,
it
would
be
great
if
they
could
integrate
some
lighting
into
the
roof
structure
or
possibly
even
at
the
top
of
the
half
round.
You
know,
pilasters,
you
know
sort
of
up
lighting.
C
B
I
get
your
comment
robert,
but
I
think
with
the
proper
fixture
selection
there's
a
and
it
might
even
need
to
be
some
sort
of
a
custom
mounting
bracket
or
something,
but
it
could
be
mounted
to
the
to
the
beams
coming
out
from
the
building
towards
the
street,
filling
in
that
entire
16
inch
wide
beam
bay
and
be
a
down
light,
that's
coming
down,
so
I
I
think
there
could
be
as
you
look
at
some
of
the
pictures
in
the
back.
You
see
right
now.
The
fixtures
look
like
you
know:
1970s
landscape
lighting,
with
little
fluorescent.
C
F
And
I'll
just
add
one
comment
I
mean
you
know,
I'm
I'm
not
a
fan
of
the
existing
columns.
You
know
they
they
look
kind
of
it's
kind
of
bizarre.
They
don't
really
work
and
I'm
not
too
thrilled
with
the
approach
to
to
shield
them.
So
I'd
love
to
see
that
be
revisited
a
little
bit
more
because
they
just
feel
like
they
don't
really
work
with
the
rest
of
the
structure.
They
feel
kind
of
alien
to
the
rest
of
the
structure.
B
Flynn,
I'm
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
and
tell
me
if
what
I'm
saying
is
appropriate,
but
I
would
like
to
move
that.
We
asked
for
a
recent
middle
of
this
project
with
attention
giving
to
the
actual
materials
on
the
columns
and
possibly
not
needing
to
stick
with
round
columns
removing
the
tile
from
the
trellis.
So
we
see
trellis
going
all
the
way
up
to
the
building
and
giving
us
a
lighting
plan
and
a
lighting
proposal
with
specific
fixture
callouts.
A
B
Okay,
then
I'd
like
to
modify
my
proposed
to
say
that
we
would
approve
this
project
with
the
list
of
conditions
and
those
conditions
will
need
to
be
reviewed
by
a
subcommittee
of
the
aac,
but
not
necessarily
brought
back
to
the
aac
unless
the
developer
does
not
agree
with
the
conditions
that
the
subcommittee
puts
on,
and
so
the
the
conditions
would
be
that
the
columns
are
re-studied.
Both
are
material
and
shape.
B
A
E
B
E
And
there
is
that
issue
at
the
southernmost
missing
column
where
that
beam
is
not
in
existence
currently,
but
was
being
proposed.
I
think
they're
going
to
find
that
it's
not
going
to
work
or
there
needs
to
be
a
column
added
or
there's
an
alternate
change
to
the
roof.
There
mind
seeing
that
resolved
and
then
that
the
parapet
detail
also.
B
A
C
B
Aye
any
opposed
thank
you
subcommittee,
who
would
be
interested
in
spending
a
half
an
hour
so
reviewing
this
again.
E
A
B
A
B
Okay,
it's
6
40
and
we
are
restarting
our
meeting
with
item
number
five
under
new
business
desert
aids
project
in
partnership
with
the
coachella
valley,
housing
coalition,
for
an
amendment
to
plan
development,
district,
ed
281,
a
general
plan
amendment
to
change
the
land,
use
designation
from
key
pq
to
mdr,
to
fixed
use
multi-use
and
a
major
architectural
application
for
the
addition
of
eighteen
hundred
eighteen
thousand
square
feet
of
medical
office
space
and
the
construction
of
a
61
unit.
Special
needs
housing
complex
located
at
1695
north
sunrise
way.
B
I'd
like
to
remind
the
committee
that
the
first
half
of
that
description
we
are
not
discussing.
We
are
not
discussing
the
zoning,
the
planned
development
district.
We
are
only
going
to
be
reviewing
the
architecture
of
the
building,
the
colors,
the
materials
and
the
landscaping,
and
with
that
do
we
have
a
staff
report.
G
Thank
you
chair.
So,
as
you
mentioned,
the
project
is
rather
large.
It's
a
13-acre
parcel
that
encompasses
the
entire
d.a.p
campus,
so
we
are
only
going
to
be
looking
at
the
development
standards,
the
massing
height
landscape
and
architecture,
so
I'll
go
through
some
of
these
slides
fairly
quickly
and
then
turn
it
over
well.
G
I
also
have
a
sort
of
fly-through
video
that
I
like
to
play
that
they
prepared
and
then
the
applicant
has
a
more
extensive
presentation
and
they
can
talk
more
about
the
details
of
the
project
so
just
going
through
the
the
13-acre
campus,
which
is
shown
on
this
slide,
consists
of
the
existing
building.
G
The
old
riverside
county
building,
which
is
now
called
the
annex,
vista
sunrise,
one
which
is
are
the
apartments
that
were
built
in
2000
early
2000s,
the
large
parking
lot
and
then
the
new
sunrise
vista
ii,
which
is
in
the
yellow
portion
and
then
the
desert
aids
project
at
admin
building,
which
is
on
the
far
right.
G
So
the
entire
campus
is
13
acres
and
the
amendment
to
the
planned
development
district.
It
will
encompass
all
of
these
components,
so
the
property
is
made
up
of
multiple
lots
and
there's
multiple
crosses
meant
to
gain
access
to
all
the
different
elements
of
the
campus.
G
In
this
slide,
it
shows
a
closer
up
what
they're
proposing.
So
it's
a
realignment
of
the
entryway
off
of
vista
chino,
the
new
parking
lot
with
carport
the
adult
park,
which
will
be
also
a
water
retention
pond,
which
is
to
the
north
on
the
right-hand
side,
and
then
the
vista
sunrise
apartments
and
in
the
middle,
is
what
they're
calling
the
pavilion
which
will
link
the
two
buildings
together.
G
So
access
to
the
site
currently
is
off
of
mr
chino
and
off
of
sunrise.
So
there's
a
write-in
and
a
write-out
on
both
of
these
streets,
they're,
looking
to
add
a
full
turn
movement
between
the
vista
sunrise,
apartments
and
the
annex,
we're
in
discussions
right
now
with
city
staff
and
how
that
would
operate
so
right
now,
that's
where
the
the
they're
looking
for
a
signal
access
at
that
point.
G
So,
as
I
mentioned,
it's
broken,
the
project
is
broken
into
several
pieces
and
we,
the
aac,
may
want
to
take
these
individually
and
and
and
discuss
them.
So
this
is
the
pavilion
which
is
the
18
500
square
foot,
link
between
the
annex
and
the
dental
behavioral
and
social
and
services
and
wellness
existing.
G
So
within
the
new
pavilion
there's
a
series
of
of
the
lobby,
the
pharmacy,
the
food
depot,
the
meeting
rooms,
a
cafe
and
then
offices-
and
this
will
allow
staff
to
circulate
between
the
two
buildings
without
having
to
go
outside
which
they
currently
do.
Now.
G
I
would
like
to
say
along
the
bottom
of
the
slide:
you'll
see
that
there
are
new
canopy
structures
that
are
being
added
along
sunrise
way,
and
this
will
help
with
circulation
for
staff
to
go
between
the
two
buildings.
If
they
do
want
to
go
outside,
they'll
be
shade
and
a
way
to
circulate
around
the
building.
G
G
So
when
you
look
at
the
total
number
of
spaces,
when
you
use
a
mixed
use
between
the
medical
offices
and
non-medical
for
both
the
pavilion
and
the
annex
and
then
the
vista
sunrise,
one
and
then
the
new
vista
sunrise,
two
that's
proposed,
and
then
the
business
center,
which
is
where
the
admin
staff
is
they're,
they're,
providing
376
or
I'm
sorry
they're
required
to
have
376
and
they're,
providing
457.
G
G
So
the
pavilion
is
actually.
This
slide
is
wrong.
It's
18
500
square
feet.
So
I'd
like
to
correct
that
18
500
is
the
total
square
footage.
Maximum
height
is
24
feet
at
the
entry
and
the
the
proposal
meets
all
the
other
development
standards
in
the
p
zone.
G
So
there's
a
series
of
slides
that
show
the
street
the
frontage
that
would
be
facing
sunrise,
which
is
on
the
bottom,
and
then
this
is
the
new
entryway
which
is
the
height
of
this,
is
24
feet
on
a
series
of
posts
and
beams
and
horizontal
elements
and
we'll
get
more
detail
in
a
minute.
G
So
just
going
through
these
slides,
the
applicant
will
give
you
a
very
detailed
presentation
on
the
materials
there
in
the
packet
there's
also
3d,
renderings
or
drawings,
of
the
entryway
into
the
development
between
the
new
sun,
vista
sunrise
apartments
and
the
annex
building,
there's
a
series
of
streetscapes
and
then
the
material
board
showing
the
the
type
of
materials
that
are
proposed.
G
G
G
Once
again,
some
streetscapes
showing
the
elements
along
sunrise,
the
materials
that
will
be
used-
and
this
is
the
entryway
into
the
development
from
the
parking
lot
and
also
some
other
elements
along
the
south
facing
properties.
G
G
The
front
yard
setback
is
set
at
25
feet.
This
does
not
meet
the
standard
in
the
in
the
r
zone,
the
r2
zone,
so
they
are
proposing
as
a
part
of
the
pd
development
standards
that
that
the
city
allowed,
the
setback
at
25
feet
normally
would
be
30
feet
and
the
maximum
height
at
the
top
of
the
roof
is
30
feet.
G
So
I
know
that
this
slide
is
angled.
A
little
bit
different
north
is
to
the
top
of
the
slide,
so
the
25
foot
setback
is
off
of
sunrise
and
I'm
pointing
it
here.
So
the
white
dash
line
is
the
property
line
and
to
the
front
wall
is
25
feet
how
they're
handling
this
is
also.
This
is
a
two-story
element
at
the
street
level
and
then
they're
stepping
it
back
to
three
stories
so
that
the
massing
is
not
as
great
along
the
street
as
if
it
was
three
stories
right
at
the
street
level.
G
G
G
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
there
are
one
of
the
amenities
of
the
the
new
complex
is
a
community
building
and,
let's
see
the
community
building
includes
a
multi-purpose
educational
room.
A
computer
lab
the
case
manager
there'll,
be
an
on-site
case
manager
and
a
case
officer,
and
this
allows
for
the
potential
renters
to
come
and
meet
with
the
staff
and
then
there's
a
laundry
room.
Also
that
will
service
the
residents.
G
So
the
building
materials
are
a
series
of
the
the
colors
that
are
on
the
the
window.
Elements
are
mosaic,
tiles
and
the
applicant
will
get
into
those
types
of
descriptions,
and
we
have.
The
fly
through
also
is
a
very
good
video
of
what
the
interior
of
the
complex
will
look
like.
G
Let
me
go
through
these
quickly
so
that
we
can
move
on
to
landscape
hardscape,
so
the
aec
may
want
to
break
down
the
landscape
hardscape
into
the
vista
chino
entrance
sunrise
way
entrance
the
the
the
dap
or
the
pavilion
entrance
sunrise
vista
ii
and
then
the
detention
basin.
G
So
there
is
a
plant
pellet
that
they're
proposing
and
they're
listing
several
types
of
plants,
types
of
trees,
types
of
of
accent,
trees
and
you'll,
see
that
there's
multiple
proposals,
they're
looking
to
pick
one
or
two
or
three
of
these,
and
they
have
not
decided
as
to
what
the
exact
plant
list
will
be.
G
Pd
review
there'll
be
a
final
review
when
they're
six
months
out
from
submitting
building
permits,
so
the
planning
commission
could
send
it
back
to
aac
for
review
at
that
time
and
then
more
plant
proposed
shrubs
ground
cover
vines,
accents.
G
A
cross
section
showing
I
would
like
to
point
out
this
section
c:
this
is
showing
sunrise,
a
landscape,
island,
the
sidewalk
and
then
the
25
feet
between
the
property
line
and
the
edge
of
the
new
apartment
building.
Here
so
there's
a
series
of
low
walls
that
will
go
up
beside
the
slope
with
landscaping
within
so
hardscape
they're,
proposing
a
series
of
pavers
and
tans
and
grays
boulders
ground
cover
of
decomposed
granite
benches
that
are
wood
and
metal.
G
So
what
I'd
like
to
do
now
chair
is
stop
sharing
and
then
play
the
drive.
The
fly-through,
if
I
could
do
that,
thank.
B
E
G
G
Okay,
so
chair
in
your
packet,
there
was
an
extensive
50-page
presentation
on
the
applicant
there's
also
letters
from
the
rogers
ranch
neighborhood
coalition
and
then
a
resident
paul
auburn
in
the
neighborhood.
G
And
then
you
have
the
traffic
study.
I'm
sorry
the
the
parking
study
from
the
applicant
also.
So
that
concludes
my
report
and
the
applicant
does
have
another
presentation.
B
E
B
G
Right,
no,
it's
because
the
mixed
use,
we
use
a
half
of
half
of
a
space,
so
there
are
61
units,
but
there's
31
parking
spaces
required
spaces.
Thank.
B
B
B
Property
line
there's
three
driveways
that
are
quite
close
to
each
other,
who
actually
rep
approves
that
does
engineering
have
to
decide
if
there's
a
certain
minimum
distance
between
driveways
and
especially
now
that
knowing
one
of
those
is
really
probably
going
to
be
a
signalized
intersection.
B
And,
and
as
kind
of
related
to
this
question
on
what
they're
calling
the
business
park,
the
condos
to
the
south
of
that
the
ranch
club
condos,
some
of
their
parking-
is
accessed
through
the
parking
lot
of
the
business
center,
so
I
don't
know
and
the
guest
parking
for
that
condo
unit.
They
use
the
parking
lot
at
the
sunrise
business
center.
B
How
do
we
approach
that?
As
far
as
do
they
really
have
that
many
parking
spaces
there
if
some
of
them
are
being
used
by
the
condos
next
door,
and
what
I'm
really
hoping
is
those
four
driveways
along
there
maybe
can
be
combined
to
two
and
one
is
the
existing
driveway
going
into?
What's
now,
I
think
a
service
yeah
is
there
anything
that's
accessed
off
of
that
to
get
into
the
building.
Is
that
where
deliveries
are
made
or
is
that
just
you
know?
What
is
that
going
to
be
used
for
right.
G
So
when
the
applicant
gives
their
presentation
they
will
discuss
what
this
is
we'll
be
using
and
rickman
harris
from
engineering
is
here
he
can
answer
the
question.
G
There's
a
bus
stop
on
this
on
the
east
side,
where
the
where
the
inline
shopping
center
is
right.
There's
a
bus,
stop
on
the
north
side
by
walgreens
on
sunrise
and
then
there's
a
bus
stop
in
front
of
the
vista
sunrise,
two
apartments
on
vista
chino.
B
G
Right
and
there's
a
whole
discussion
of
if
this
is
a
signalized
intersection,
if
it's
here
or
if
it's
down
here
where
the
sunrise
business
center
is
people,
so
they
don't
jaywalk
across
the
street.
Yeah.
B
And
I
can
okay
any
of
any
other
questions
of
staff.
If
mr
chair.
F
Good
afternoon
we
have
been
in
discussion
with
the
the
applicant's
project
manager
and
with
the
city
engineer
regarding
the
driveways
and
regarding
the
proposed
traffic
signal
and
we've
actually
given
them
some
direction
to
re-look
at
maybe
changing
the
location
of
traffic
signal
or
completely
illuminating
it.
F
The
the
traffic
signal
poses
some
some
issues
because
we
were
looking
at
the
ultimate
build
out
of
the
northbound
left,
turn
lanes
on
sunrise
onto
vista
chino,
and
then
those
will
have
to
actually
be
made
longer
and
the,
and
then,
if
they're,
proposing
a
signal
at
that
intersection
or
the
between
the
new
vista
sunrise
apartments
and
the
dap
annex
that
would
go
into
the
shopping
center,
it
would
need
a
turning
lane
and
then
so.
We'd
have
some
conflict
there.
F
A
F
That
idea,
because
right
now
it
quite
frankly
it
just
doesn't
work.
So
we
are
still
looking
at
that.
B
Okay,
so
that's
just
an
unresolved
issue
at
this
point:
yes,
okay,
any
other
questions
of
staff.
Thank
you,
rick,
seeing
no,
no
other
questions
of
staff.
Let's
have
the
applicant
give
us
before
the
applicant
gives
the
presentation
I'd
kind
of
like
to
pull
the
committee
a
bit.
B
I
see
this
as
a
couple
of
very
different
projects
and
I'm
wondering
if
we
should
architecturally
look
at
the
dap
existing
building
with
the
annex
and
the
new
edition
as
one
consideration
and
then
look
at
this
vista
sunrise,
2
apartment
complex
as
a
second
consideration,
because
the
materials
are
totally
different.
The
massing
is
different
and
I
don't
want
us
to
get
bogged
down
in
trying
to
figure
out
which
side
which
building
are
we
talking
about?
B
Glenn,
could
we
have
the
applicant
make
a
presentation
on
first
just
the
dap
and
annex
and
that
building
first
and
we
can
discuss
that
and
then
we
would
go
and
discuss
vista
sunrise.
Second,.
G
Well,
I
think
their
presentation
is
kind
of
I
do
think
they
split
it
out,
but
it
gives
you
some
history
and
I
think
they
need
to
go
through
it
and
then
we'll
have
to
split
it
out.
B
Okay,
so
then
we'll
do
that
the
applicant
will
make
the
presentation
that
they've
prepared,
but
we,
the
committee,
can
discuss
it
in
two
separate
sections
later,
and
this
is
a
very
complex
project
that
needs
probably
a
lot
of
explaining.
So
I'm
happy
with
giving
the
applicant
a
little
bit
longer
time
than
the
normal
10
minutes
if
they
need
to
take
12
or
14
or
15
minutes
to
make
their
presentation.
N
N
Okay,
I'll
probably
truncate
the
script
a
little
bit
to
bring
it
into
focus
all
right.
This
is
the
slide
of
1999
when
dap
purchased
the
building
and
you
can
see
it
was
vacant.
All
the
way
around
there
were
a
number
of
different
property
owners.
The
city
of
palm
springs,
county
of
riverside
rda
and
private
property
owners.
Could
I
have
the
next
one?
Please.
N
Next
slide
in
99
dap
did
a
master
plan
to
bring
about
a
full
service
campus
that
would
provide
health
and
social
services,
housing
and
administrative
services.
The
first
step
on
that
was
vista,
sunrise,
1
81
units
at
the
top
right
of
the
image,
and
the
parking
was
prepared
as
well
for
a
new
standalone
clinic
which,
on
the
next
slide,
shows
there,
and
that
was
built
by
the
county
of
riverside,
not
following
the
site
plan
of
the
master
plan,
but
doing
their
own
site
plan
within
the
land
that
they're
releasing
from
d.a.p.
N
Ten
years
later,
that
was
done
in
2006
10
years
later,
dap
purchased
the
vacant
lot
to
the
left
to
address
some
of
the
300
people
on
the
waiting
list
for
the
existing
partners
apartments
and
then
in
2019.
They
purchased
the
white
brothers
building
to
be
a
stand-alone
administrative
services
building.
So
that's
the
full
campus
13
acres
next
slide,
please,
with
all
the
the
range
of
existing
facilities.
N
Next,
the
issue
that
comes
up
is
the
site
constraints
because
it
was
done
piecemeal
and
the
county
did
a
a
plan
that
did
not
follow
the
master
plan.
We
have
three
problems
that
are
significant.
One
is
what
rick
manharris
was
talking
about
is
how
you
get
in
and
out
of
the
project.
You
cannot
go
north.
You
cannot
go
west
legally
from
the
existing
configuration
people.
Do
it.
They
scoot
across
vista
chino,
make
an
illegal
u-turn.
N
They
make
left,
turns
out
of
the
driveway
at
the
south
end
across
they
make
a
zigzag
out
and
around
and
people
make
u-turns
in
one
of
the
condo
entrances.
Addition
to
that
we
have
this
very
odd
intersection
at
the
midpoint
and
then
now
the
dap
has
purchased
the
county
building
purchased
it
in
2018.
N
N
So
our
design
response,
the
initial
thing
we
did
was
try
to
clean
up
the
circulation,
increase,
ingress
and
egress,
as
well
as
on-site.
So
we
reconfigured
and
realigned
the
drive
from
this
to
chino.
That
does
two
things.
It
allows
us
to
have
sidewalks,
so
their
people
are
not
walking
in
the
driveway
and
it
creates
the
space
for
a
bridging
building
between
the
two.
N
Additionally,
we've
made
the
decision
that
the
front
door,
if
you
go
back
just
one
for
a
moment,
yeah
thanks
the
front
door,
is
closest
to
the
parking.
Now
that
will
be
the
central
front
door
and
we
created
a
drop-off
that
has
enough
room
for
three
cars
to
park,
pull
out
and
so
on,
and
the
southern
drive
that
was
talked
about
is
now,
as
has
proposed,
is
to
sign
a
signalize
that
would
allow
people
to
exit
going
north
and
then
they
could
make
the
left
turn
to
victorchino
or
go
north
next.
N
N
The
tan
area,
on
the
top
with
the
green
star
is
central
registration
with
walgreens
to
the
left,
a
cafe
and
offices
going
north
from
there
equally
important
oops
thanks.
I
appreciate
it,
but
equally
important
is
the
symbolic
entrance
to
the
campus
at
sunrise
and
festucino,
and
the
fact
that
we
have
two
entrances
there.
So
we
recognize
that
from
a
design
response
we
have
both
the
internal
street
to
frontage
and
functioning
and
the
external
on
the
streetscape.
N
This
project
is
also
proposing
under
coachella
valley,
housing
coalition,
61
units,
60
of
which
are
affordable,
one
on-site
manager,
four
studios
and
one
bedrooms.
It's
a
courtyard
configuration
with
all
the
units,
almost
all
units
accessing
from
the
courtyards
I'll
talk
about
the
frontage
as
a
separate
thing,
but
that's
very
important
and
glenn
was
talking
about
the
the
retention
base
is
being
reconfigured,
so
it
will
be
a
park.
It's
a
two
level
park
so
that
the
in
the
the
vast
majority
of
its
use
is
a
retention.
N
And
then
what
is
important
here
is
that,
from
that
parking,
you'll
see
two
lines
and,
and
the
landscape
architect
will
talk
about
this
lining
the
end.
The
driveway
that
comes
with
this
dicino
are
both
shade
trees
and
arbor,
shade
arbors,
so
that
the
story
of
a
person
getting
out
of
a
car
is
not
walking
without
protection
and
without
shade
all
the
way
to
the
front
door
next,
so
the
design
response
architecturally
as
as
mr
jake
we
spoke
about,
is
wait
a
minute.
We've
got.
These.
N
We've
got
three
buildings
along
the
front,
one
built
in
1981
remodeled
in
70,
82,
94
and
one
built
in
2006
and
now
an
approached
one
a
proposed
one.
So
the
campus
entry
is
important,
as
well
as
the
drive
entry
between
the
existing
annex
and
the
apartments
and
then,
lastly,
how
do
you
alert
people?
How
do
you
communicate
on
that
scale
that
this?
This
is
the
front
door
come
here
and
your
you
will
start
the
registration
process
next,
please
so
we're
highlighting
the
sunrise
frontage,
and
there
are
two
green
stars
representing
symbolic
entrances.
N
If
you
look
to
the
right
of
the
star
on
the
right,
you
see
that
there's
an
angle.
The
angle
is
an
existing
arcade
shade
that
entered
a
night
entrance
for
group
meetings.
That's
no
longer
used
and
no
further
to
the
right
good
guess
there
you
go
yep
and
even
more
to
the
right.
There
you
go.
Okay,
we
decided
we
did
not
want
to
have
the
mitigation
between
street
and
building
be
orthogonal.
N
We
picked
up
that
angle
and
we
said
the
first
thing
we
have
to
deal
with
will
be
the
campus
identity.
So
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
this
is
what's
there
now
there's
the
entry
mass
with
the
flat
angled
arch
and
an
arcade
to
the
left
of
that
a
pyramid
over
the
mass
cubic
mass
and
to
the
right.
You
can
see
the
columns
of
that
arcade
going
to
the
right
and
a
pretty
insignificant
monument
sign
right
there.
N
N
So
there
were
three
elements
that
we
wanted
to
introduce
that
would
mitigate
between
the
existing
buildings
and
even
the
new
building
to
the
on
the
west
side,
and
those
components
were
ground
plain
either
cast
in
place
or
rammed
earth
walls,
steel
frame
with
horizontal
louvers
and
plain
panels,
in
this
case
on
the
entry
monument
they're
obscure
glass
colored.
But
we
introduced
those
horizontal
panels
which
then
get
picked
up,
as
as
I
never
get
the
right
pronunciation.
Breeze
du
soleil
shading
on
the
building
we
decide
we're
going
to
do
very
little
demolition.
N
The
only
major
demolition
is
to
take
that
pyramid,
roof
off
and
add
sort
of
a
foreground
to
the
mast
with
a
horizontal
blade
roof.
So
the
horizontal
lines
of
the
louvers,
the
horizontal
blade,
roof
and
ground
plane
cast
in
place,
concrete
or
rammed
earth
are
the
elements
that
begin
to
bring
continuity
between
very
diverse
buildings.
If
we
could
have
the
next
place,
so
here's
the
county
building
where
it's
now
the
annex,
it's
got
that
copper
roof
over
a
central
corridor
that
bisects
the
whole
building
two
sides
of
that
corridor.
Are
these
plaster
prisms?
N
The
one
on
the
right?
Is
kind
of
odd
outward
tapered
or
battered
walls
we're
going
to
pick
up
again
a
an
angle
to
a
shaded
walk
that
allows
for
staff
to
go
from
the
annex
building
to
the
dap
building
now
what's
important,
I-
and
I
I
want
to
raise
here
is
the
drive
you
see
on
the
right-hand
side
of
the
car
coming
out
will
perfect
will
be
where
the
pavilion
is
at
the
back
end.
That
is
the
delivery.
Only
service
and
delivery.
Only
there
is
the
trash
enclosure.
N
There
is
an
emergency
generator,
all
of
that
kind
of
back
of
house
stuff
and
part
of
what
we're
trying
to
do.
If
we
could
see.
The
next
slide
is
to
bring
the
buildings
closer
together
and
we're
doing
that
by
the
horizontal
lines
on
the
shaded,
arcade
or
arbors,
and
if
you
come
across
to
the
county
or
the
annex,
we
introduced
those
ground,
plain
walls
at
angles,
with
steel
posts
and
horizontal
louvers
to
shade
windows
and
the
walkway
and
then
over
the
existing.
N
N
Now
we're
going
to
go
one
more.
So
this
is
the
driveway
that
would
be
widened
for
capacity
and
if,
if
allowed,
will
have
the
traffic
signal,
it's
the
back
of
the
house
of
the
annex,
building
on
the
right
and
the
future,
housing
will
be
to
the
left
and
here's
where
I
want
to
glenn.
If
you
could
circle
the
plan
at
the
bottom
yeah.
So
here's
where
we're
now
changing
those
cast
and
place
walls
or
rammed
earth
walls
from
being
at
angles
to
being
orthogonal.
N
We
now
want
them
to
be
a
direct
extension
and
mediator
between
the
orthogonal
buildings
behind
and
as
as
glenn
was
talking
about,
the
closest
our
building
comes
to.
The
setback
is
25.
The
property
line
is
25
feet.
The
county
building
is
at
12
feet,
it's
18
feet
tall,
ours
is
24
25
so
and
it's
two
feet
lower.
So
there
is
some
mitigation
of
scale
and
the
entire
articulation
of
the
apartments
is
blocks
of
apartments
broken
down,
not
a
massive
block,
as
is
the
annex,
because
we
have
the
next
place.
N
The
the
apartment
building
on
the
left
has,
as
glenn
talked
about
a
two-story
component
along
sunrise.
Further
back
is
the
three
story,
so
this
is
looking
northwest,
so
you
can
see
the
annex,
the
soaring
copper
roof
on
the
far
right.
You
can
see
the
ground
plane,
crashed
in
place
walls,
and
then
we
were
distinct
in
wanting
this
to
be
an
international
style,
as
defined
by
simple
off-white.
N
I
think
it's
what's
it
called
dove
white
or
dove,
something
like
that
plaster
with
the
apartment,
building,
windows,
ganged
up
and
then
below,
which
are
fiber
cement
panels
and
those
are
the
accent,
colors
and
again
we're
using
a
blade,
horizontal
roof
over
those
windows
for
shade
and
also
to
pick
up
that
vocabulary
earlier.
N
This
is
going
to
be
tough.
Glenn
oops
go
back,
it's
going
to
be
a
tough
one.
You
see
about
two-thirds
of
the
way
back.
There
are
two
walls
that
are
coming
out:
two
wing
walls
bingo
those
are
the
stairwells
and
so
we're
introducing
these
blade
walls
to
again
break
down
the
massing
of
the
apartment
complex.
So
it
appears
from
in
this
floquet
location
view
that
we
have
a
two-story
unit,
another
two-story
unit,
three-story
unit,
and
then
this
penetration
that
the
stairwell
and
big
that
beginning
that
again.
A
N
N
So
this
is
looking
south
east
apartments
to
the
left.
Just
a
minor
thing.
Every
corner
in
the
apartment
has
a
re
recessed
balcony,
so
that
the
frontage
at
the
corner
is
two
story.
Three
stories
are
set
back
on
the
on
the
dap
building.
We
have
this
high
entry.
We
wanted
to
create
it
as
an
institutional
civic
scale,
so
it
has
that
blade,
roof
steel
columns
and
then
a
lower
roof
below
that
even
on
the
higher
roof.
N
We
introduced
the
horizontal
louvers
for
shade
and
you'll
notice
coming
out
from
that
you'll
see
the
blue
columned
arbors
with
horizontal
shade
to
bring
the
comfort
and
welcome
from
the
building
out
to
the
drop-off
area.
Next,
please-
and
this
is
looking
north
east-
that's
one
of
the
arbors
from
the
entrance
on
the
right.
We
go
down
to
plaster
boxes
that
have
a
variety
of
of
material
and
and
material,
primarily,
some
subtle
changes
in
color
and
when
there
are
windows
we
provide
those
window
shields
as
well,
and
you
can
see
it
far
to
the
left.
N
Those
are
horizontal,
louvers,
ribs,
coming
out
from
the
building
and
having
the
horizontal
to
shade
the
windows
and
the
walkway
that
is
up
against
the
building
and
one
more
and
I'm
done.
N
So
that
gives
you
the
overview
and
oh.
G
So
rule
you
have
the
landscape
architect
who
can
speak
if
the
chair
would
like
for
a
few
minutes.
K
I
just
introduced
myself
everyone.
My
name
is
jeremy
franzini,
I'm
a
landscape
architect
at
michael
baker.
International
and
I'll
just
spend
a
few
minutes
going
over
some
of
the
landscape
concepts
that
we've
worked
on
the
overall
site
plan.
Here
you
can
see
we
we
really
we're
trying
to
enhance
the
the
whole
user
and
pedestrian
experience
for
people
coming
to
visit
the
site.
We
worked
very
closely
with
the
architect
and
the
client
to
elevate
the
landscape
design
throughout
and
and
rules
kind
of
touched
on
a
few
things.
K
So
we'll
just
kind
of
reiterate
here
we
looked
very
closely
at
the
entrance
from
this
to
chino
and
how
that's
going
to
work.
We've
got
some
enlargements
to
look
at.
We
looked
very
closely
at
that
sunrise
entrance
I'll
go
through
those
in
a
second.
The
sunrise
entrance
was
very
important,
but
also
in
talking
with
our
client.
The
parking
lot
area
became
very
important
and
how
to
deal
with
patients
that
are
on
site
that
are
are
not
feeling
well
and
how
to
get
them
from
the
parking
lot
into.
K
The
building
became
a
very
important
feature
to
just
to
again
to
create
a
better
user
and
visitor
experience
to
the
site,
so
we
can
look
at
these
in
a
little
bit
more
detail
now,
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
this
is
looking
at
that
main
drop-off
area.
So
rule
mentioned,
we've
moved
the
main
entrance
now
to
the
south,
which
is
closer
to
the
parking
lot
to
decrease
that
distance,
that
users
and
visitors
will
have
to
walk
to
enter
the
building.
K
What
we've
done
is
we've
also
increased
the
amount
of
shade
that
happens
in
the
parking
lot
between
the
carports
and
then
you
can
see
this
entry
area
where
we've
got
shade
trees
on
both
sides
of
the
entrance.
This
becomes
now
more
of
an
entry
plaza
where
the
vehicular
traffic
can
still
pass
through
the
main
drive
aisle
unimpeded,
but
we've
got
drop-off
zones
on
both
the
east
and
west
sides
of
the
entry
on
both
of
those
sides.
K
K
Then
again,
we've
already
talked
about
the
retention
basin
dog
park.
It's
an
amenity
that
we're
adding
for
the
public
to
make
that
upper
tier
of
the
basin
serve
also
as
a
dog
park.
It's
the
only
place
where
people
can
get
out
and
circulate
and
experience
a
little
bit
of
nature
and
and
that
that
detention
basin
should
be
usable
majority
of
the
time
and
we're
just
trying
to
basically
add
another
amenity
to
the
site.
K
K
It's
very
nice
striations
of
color
that
are
very
natural
at
work
with
the
desert,
with
the
desert
landscape,
we're
using
decomposed
granite
the
the
pavers
again
to
creating
that
entry.
Plaza
effect
in
this
linear
effect
work
with
all
the
horizontal
lines
that
are
also
happening,
architecturally
and
then
using
some
crushed
rock
and
cobble
and
boulders
that
are
that
are
going
to
tie
into
some
of
the
existing
materials
that
are
already
found
on
site.
B
Thank
you
interesting
and
complex
building.
So
we'll
have
probably
a
lot
of
things
to
ask
about.
Do
we
have
questions
from
the
stat
from
the
from
the
committee
for
the
applicant.
B
Don't
see
any
hands
up,
I've
got
a
list
of
questions.
Should
I
go
through
some
of
mine
main
question:
did
you
ever
consider
removing
the
copper
pitched
roof?
That's
over
the
annex.
N
We
did
not
consider
taking
the
entire
roof
off,
we
did,
we
are
taking.
We
are
taking
the
back
extension
off
at
the
line
it
might
be.
The
best
thing
to
do
is
go
to
the
glenn.
Can
you
go
to
the
overall
site
plan?
N
Oh
there,
you
go
okay,
so
the
end
of
the
annex,
building
on
the
left-hand
side
go
the
darker
tobacco-colored
corner.
Okay,
the
roof
extends
a
little
past
that
we
are
taking
the
roof
back
to
where
the
the
faded
tan,
where
the
word
annex
is
we're
taking
it
back
to
there,
and
that
is,
will
be
a
new
roofed
area
with
skylights
and
light
wells
for
the
pavilion.
N
We
did
not
consider
doing
it
on
the
front
and
partly
because
what
would
we
do
other
than
have
two
oddball
plaster
masses
unless
we
spent
a
great
deal
of
money
re-roofing
it.
So
we
took
a
more
direct
approach
by
bringing
in
the
blade
roof
below
leaving
the
tall
one.
There.
B
B
B
N
That
is
accurate.
The
the
reason
is
security.
We
have
one
point
entrance
for
the
building
at
central
registration
and
security,
and
it
is
an
exit
only
for
staff.
B
N
B
B
N
Good
point:
I
can
see
the
logic
of
that.
I
don't
want
to
make
a
promise,
but
I
can
see
the
logic
yeah.
B
B
On
the
back
on
the
on
the
new
pavilion,
where
you've
got
those
long
slot
windows,
I
I
really
like
that
detail
and
the
look
of
the
frame
that
you
have
around
them.
I
just
wonder
if
they
should
be
slightly
higher,
because
if
I'm
inside
walking
along
that
window,
I'm
not
being
able
to
see
out.
You
know
if
someone's
inside
they're,
just
seeing
my
shoulder
yeah.
N
Truthfully,
the
height
of
that
was
established
at
44
inches
for
a
stand-up
starbucks
bench
for
computers
over
there,
and
so
it
may
not.
I
honestly,
I
cannot
tell
you
what
the
dimension
is,
but
it
it
was
from
eye
level,
stand
up
and
down.
Okay,.
B
N
I
will
let
me
share.
I
I
also
have
felt
some
discomfort
about
the
skinniness
of
the
roof
there,
but
from
the
beginning
we
want
we
had
the
feeling-
and
this
is
why
we
have
the
two
roofs
high
roof
to
communicate
openness,
transparency,
welcome
and
lower
roof
for
scale
and
shade.
Both
layers
will
have
verti
horizontal
shade
elements
to
block
the
western
sun
onto
the
street.
So
I
I
don't
dispute
that
there
is
a
lot
of
argument
to
be
made.
N
The
two
entrances
should
be
similar,
but
the
intent
on
our
part
was
we
wanted
this
to
be
transparent.
We
wanted
this
to
be
more
open.
We
were
using
what
was
there
on
the
sunrise
side,
so
I
hear
the
logic.
It's
not
consistent
with
our
goal
in
terms
of
what
are
we
communicating.
B
N
B
Yeah
and
the
last
one
is
on
these
trello
on
the
shade
structure
that
we're
looking
at
right
here.
It's
kind
of
whimsical,
but
it
kind
of
doesn't
it's
it's
not
repeated
anywhere
else,
but
having
the
legs
be
fat
on
the
bottom,
on
one
side
and
thin
on
the
other
and
then
taper
up
and
the
top
being
crooked.
It's
kind
of
a
gowdy,
almost
weirdness,
and
I
don't
quite
know
how
I
feel
about
it.
I
just
want
to
make
that
as
a
comment.
N
Well,
the
fact
that
you
referenced
coyote
in
the
verbiage
we
did.
We
did
talk
about
art
deco,
so
there
is
a
streamline,
there's
sort
of
component
to
it.
I
think
I
think
it
came
from
a
desire
not
to
be
a
exact
replica.
N
It
wasn't
taking
one
and
saying
now
shrink
it
down
to
a
quarter
of
the
scale.
It's
subjective,
it's
not
arbitrary,
but
it
is
definitely
subjective.
B
The
end
of
the
roof
closest
to
sunrise
is
supported
by
round
pipe
columns,
and
I
notice
you've
put
round
pipe
columns
on
the
lower
level
roof
that
you
have
there
where,
on
the
back
roof,
it's
more
rectangular
or
square
columns.
Do
you
think
it
would
be
more
cohesive
to
revise
the
pipe
columns
on
the
sunrise
side
to
be
more
in
keeping
with
the
columns
you
have
on
the
back
side
of
the
building.
N
N
Yeah
we
thought
that
was
a
way
of
bringing
those
two
components
together
and
the
west
facing
we
really
weren't
trying
to
bring
too
much
continuity
between
the
two
we
wanted.
We
wanted
there
to
be
one
component,
that
is
the
blade
roof
and
the
horizontal
thing,
but
the
back
side-
and
this
we
feel,
are
very
different
approaches.
B
And
just
looking
at
this
elevation
to
the
left
of
the
entry,
those
windows
that
are
quite
flat
and
plain
yeah,
is
there
any
opportunity
to
put
the
same
trellis
work
that
you
have
on
the
right
side,
where
it
wouldn't
be
a
walkway?
It
would
just
be
kind
of
a
folded
shade
over
the
window,
like
you
did
on
the
back
side
of
the
of
the
annex,.
B
D
Yeah
yeah,
I
can
certainly
see
the
the
challenge
of
with
a
site.
Would
that
has
multiple
penetrations
to
develop
a
prioritization
for
them
and
a
clarification
to
the
vehicular
traffic
as
to
where
to
get
in
and
where
it
leads
rule.
Can
I
ask
about
the
pedestrian
experience
if
I
were
to
take
public,
transit
and
land
that
bus
stop
at
this
pacino?
N
Excellent
question,
and-
and
that
has
been
a
significant
conversation-
glenn
there's
a
if
you
go
about
four
slides
forward.
Five,
six
keep
going,
keep
going,
keep
going,
keep
going,
keep
no
you're
going
back.
No,
you
got
to
go
forward,
keep
going
please.
N
N
We
do
not
want
to
diminish
the
fact
that
there
are
problems
with
it.
There
are
much
bigger
problems
without
it
and
all
along
that
drive
on
both
the
right
and
left
side.
There
are
ground
plane,
landscape
and
trees.
On
the
right
hand,
side
it
is
the
back
of
house,
it
is
trash.
Enclosure
is
emergency
generator
a
plate
is
a
sidewalk
not
greatly
welcoming.
N
N
And
it
every
building,
that's
built
on
a
major
street,
has
the
problem
of
having
a
presence
that
is
welcoming
and
at
the
same
time,
knowing
that
you're
going
to
enter
the
building
from
the
parking
side.
That
was
a
discussion
very
early
on
and
we
made
the
decision
that
it
would.
The
main
entrance
would
be
from
parking
because
it
is
not
safe
to
have
the
main
entrance
on
sunrise.
D
D
D
And
then
I
guess
my
last
question
in
the
development
of
the
retention
pond
it
it.
It
sounds
as
though
the
the
dog
park
is
not
fully
worked
out
in
terms
of
what
what
the
full
landscape
recreational
components
would
be.
There
is
that
the
case
is
this:
the
entire
thing
would
be
dog
park.
Is
there
more
going
on
than
just
that?
There.
D
H
Okay,
so
where
you
were
talking
about
the
entry
one
one
slide
back
that
you
were
on
at
that
sunrise
way
in
front
of
the
buildings.
Is
there
any
client
tenant
space
up
there?
That
is
expected
for
usual
space
for
the
tenants.
N
Oh
hold
on
I'm
sorry,
glenn
john
mccoy
you're
asking
the
question
about
sunrise,
correct.
H
H
N
Question
I
think
the
what
I
would
challenge
us
to
do.
N
If
you
look
at
the
how
to
describe
this
upper
right
corner
of
the
vista
sunrise
apartments,
two,
the
building
itself
is
there's
a
walkway
across
it's
a
skinny
little
walkway
right
nope
to
the
right,
please
yep,
nope,
right
yeah
there.
I
would
enhance
that.
N
I
would
address
that
driveway
entrance
with
greater
paving
and
landscape,
and
I
would
ask
the
question:
I
don't
know:
if
we
can
do
it,
can
we
lose
one
or
two
spaces,
so
that
becomes
a
corner
that
has
an
amenity.
I
can't
promise,
but
it
says
we
have
more
parking
than
required.
That
would
be
the
client
who
would
allow
that
there.
But
that
is
the
way
I
would
respond
to
what
you're
raising
okay.
H
N
Oh
guess
what
we
have
a
main
glenn,
can
you
go
back
to
the
photograph
you
might
have
to
go
forward?
Go
forward
about
three
slides,
keep
going
keep
I
want
to
show
this
slide,
keep
going,
keep
going,
keep
going,
keep
going,
no
you're
going
back
dude.
I
want
you
to
go
forward.
H
N
We
have
a
renegade
connection
between
those
power
lines
and
1445
and
there
is
a
major
switch
vault
far
to
the
left
and
that's
what
stops
the
parking
on
the
side
and
from
going
any
further
east,
we
have
a
a
switch
which
eventually
will
happen.
Sorry,
which
eventually
will
we
think
will
serve
this.
N
This
apartment
complex,
that's
where
they're
gonna
underground
all
those
lines
that
go
west
from
sunrise.
So
the
answer
tom
is,
we
can't
go
further.
N
H
Okay,
last
last
spot
the
handicap
parking,
just
let's
say
at
the:
what
is
that
nor
southwest
corner
of
the
pharmacy
shopping
there
you've
done
a
great
job
of
shading
and
comfort
throughout
the
site.
Just
that
spot
feels
a
little
hot.
H
N
As
a
degree
or
two
as
it's
configured
no-
and
I
think
the
balance
that
would
be
discussed
from
the
client
and
the
city
and
the
designer
would
be
that
the
need
for
handicapped
spaces
trumps
the
need
for
shade
at
that
location.
N
K
E
Yeah
just
going
through
the
landscape
plans
and
maybe
just
need
to
refresh
my
memory
but
along
the
east
side
of
the
building,
so
long
sunrise.
I
E
Let
me
let
me
get
to
a
broader
question
here
when
I
look
at
the
traffic
study,
slides
glenn,
if
you
could
zip
to
those
really
quickly,
there
was
the
yeah
there
was
this
one
which
showed
some
really
obvious
red
arrows
that
were,
I
guess,
speaking
to
the
unsuccessful
nature
of
the
ingress
and
egress
from
this
site
for
vehicular
traffic,
and
he
gave
a
few
examples
and
then
go
to
the
one
that
the
slide
that
potentially
solves
these
issues
like
take
a
look
at
vistacino,
for
example,
I
don't
see
that
anything's
changed
that
solves
the
two
red
arrow
issues
from
the
previous
slide
and
then
maybe
I'm
missing
the.
N
It's
controlled
by
caltrans
and
we
cannot
do
anything
but
do
right
in
right
out
there.
We
could
not
legally
put
a
a
a
break
in
the
median,
although
there
is
a
break
to
get
into
albertson
and
people
scoot
around
going
north.
On
the
I
mean
going
west
on
the
eastbound
traffic
and
trying
to
get
over
so
people
do
that.
It's
true!
We
we.
E
E
N
Well,
yes,
there's
the
median
will
be
removed
signal
and
there
are
three
lanes
coming
out
of
the
site.
There's
a
left
turn
lane
a
cross
lane
and
a
right
turn
lane
and
then
the
the
the
median
will
go
south
from
that
intersection
and
tom
jake
way
to
address
the
point
you
made
out
that
there
are
these
three
driveways
in
a
row.
N
The
middle
one
will
have
a
median
that
blocks
any
traffic
to
the
left
and
there's
we
don't
believe
there
will
be
bleeding
from
the
traffic
parking
through
the
apartments
and
out
that
way,
we
don't
think
that
will
be
so.
E
E
One
of
the
issues
was
the
multiple
driveways,
along
sunrise
and
and
how
it,
I
guess,
presents
some
misleading
opportunities
for
people
to
enter
into
the
project,
and
so
there's
the
it
appears
that
the
first
entrance
anyone
could
turn
into
the
project
as
they're
heading
south
on
sunrise,
is
well
more
of
the
service
entry
just
south
of
there
yeah
yeah.
What's
being
done
about
that,
to
discourage
people
from
thinking
and
feeling,
like
that's
the
legitimate
entrance
for
people,
and
then
tom
brought
up
the
potential
for
a
gate
there.
E
N
I
think
the
the
issue
that
you're
raising
is
is
important.
N
The
landscape,
along
sunrise
is
not
part,
has
not
been
addressed
by
the
landscape
architect,
yet
at
the
far
north
end
we're
retaining
the
the
mature
olive
trees
and
that
ground
plain
will
be,
leading
up
to
the
portent
place,
casting
place,
walls
and
campus
sign,
and
candidly
there's
a
question
to
the
client
about
the
foreground
at
the
symbolic
entrance
that
is
hardscape
that
is
currently
used
as
an
entrance
to
walgreens.
Walgreens
is
just
inside
that
pyramidal
area
and
we
have
not.
A
F
Chairman
my
name's
nicole
krist,
I'm
with
terra
nova
planning
and
we're
helping
to
to
manage
the
project
through
the
entitlement
process.
Thanks
nicole,
I
wanted
to
address
the
traffic
question,
maybe
from
a
more
technical
perspective.
F
Although
there
there
will
not
be
an
increase
in
traffic
movement
or
an
increased
ability
and
traffic
movement
on
vistacino
for
the
left
out
or
the
u-turn
at
sunrise,
if
a
traffic
signal
is
allowed
by
the
city
at
our
main
driveway
traffic
is
very
much
like
water.
It
flows
to
the
point
of
least
resistance,
and
so
people
who
would
want
to
go
west
on
vistacino
would
exit
on
sunrise
because
they'll
have
an
ability
to
make
the
left
and
then
a
left
again
on
from
sunrise
on
to
vista
china.
E
E
E
N
F
N
So
you
see
the
the
shade
structure
goes
beyond
the
the
building
and
aligns
with
the
existing
trash
enclosure,
and
so
mr
jaques
suggestion
of
a
gate.
We
could
look
at
that
it
it.
It
would
be
at
a
low
level
because
those
that's
the
entrance
for
trashing
trash
trucks
and
service
trucks,
and
so
on.
E
E
And
you're,
adding
some
structure
is
this:
that
is
this.
A
new
concrete
was
this
one
of
the
sorry
not
cast
in
place,
but
I
think
you
said
this
would
might
be
rammed
earth
material
there,
or
was
that
not
this
location.
N
The
rammed
earth
and
cast
in
concrete
have
not
been
determined
fully
where
they
go,
but
it
would
be
the
the
elevation
on
the
upper
right
corner
of
19.1
does
an
extension
of
one
of
the
cast
and
place
ground,
plane,
walls
and
the
steel
post
and
horizontal
going
beyond,
and
what
you're
saying
is
that
makes
it
even
more
attractive
to
drive
in
there.
Is
that
what
your
point.
E
N
H
E
So
so
for
the
northern
half
of
the
sunrise
side
of
the
project
and
maybe
the
eastern
half
of
the
of
the
chino
side
of
the
project.
N
One
of
the
issues
that
we
would
need
to
explore
and
has
not
been
explored
adequately
is
retaining
the
hardscape
at
that
entrance.
There
was
discussion
about
it
being
a
place
that
had
a
ceremonial
component
to
it.
That's
why
we
have
bollards
as
opposed
to
a
blank
wall,
but
your
the
questions
you're
raising.
E
C
Here
we
go
on
the
apartments,
so
the
driveway
to
the
south
is.
Is
that
meant
to
be
the
main
entrance
for
the
residents.
N
I
N
N
C
And
then
all
right,
so
that's
I.
I
thought
it
was
a
fire
department
issue.
I
was
just
wondering
if
there
was
a
way
to
reconfigure
the
apartments
to
reduce
that
or
eliminate
it
and
maybe
make
everybody
come
in
through
the
main
entrance
and
then
maybe
do
a
double
loaded
parking
as
you
turn
left
into
the
apartment
area,
but
it
just
I
do
understand
about
the
fire
department,
but
I
was
wondering
in
terms
of
the
300
feet
whether
you
know
where,
where
you
are
and
if
it's
even
feasible.
B
N
N
N
That's
a
geometry:
that's
possible,
but
ownership
in
terms
of
easement.
That's
a
challenge!
Yeah!
Okay,.
C
Not
at
all,
and
then
just
to
explain
to
me
in
the
in
the
park
at
the
west
end,
there's
some
sort
of
walkway
ramp
or
something
yeah
that
comes
down,
and
I
sort
of
picked
up
that
that
might
be
a
golf
cart
access.
Is
that
right.
N
C
Yeah
and
I'm
talking
about
in
the
southwest
corner,
coming
down.
C
Okay,
all
right,
and
if
it
is
a
dog
park,
do
you
have
intentions.
F
Yeah,
I
mean
the
only
comment
I
have.
I
mean
I
think
overall,
the
project's
really
well
thought
out.
My
one
comment
is
the
the
main
entrance
to
the
pavilion
in
the
back
feels
underwhelming
to
me.
You
know,
I
think
the
entrance
created
actually
the
you
know,
the
entrance
off
sunrise
into
the
annex
building
feels
to
me
more
sort
of
a
statement
than
the
entrance
into
the
pavilion
again.
F
So
that's
a
kind
of
disappointing
part
for
me
in
the
project,
but
otherwise
I
think
the
the
reskinning
of
the
two
buildings
to
integrate
them
together.
I
think
really
well
thought
out
and
yeah.
So
that's
my
comment.
B
B
B
And
I
will
say
this:
I
know
that
some
of
those
decisions
were
probably
made
by
budget,
but
I
have
to
congratulate
you
and
your
client
when
I
I
told
flynn
this
when
I
first
looked
at
this.
If
I
didn't
know,
if
I
hadn't
been
told
it
was
low
income
housing,
I
never
would
have
assumed
that
it's
a
great
job
for
you
know
giving
some
quality
and
respect
to
this
to
a
project
like
this,
and
I
think
the
biggest
challenge
is
you're
setting
the
bar
awfully
high
for
anybody
else.
B
Who
wants
to
do
projects
like
this
in
town,
and
I
think
it's
great.
B
The
one
thing
you
didn't
discuss
is
on
the
vista
sunrise
on
the
material
boards.
I
see
a
lot
of
different
tile
plant
panels,
colored
tiles,
yeah
and.
N
N
Only
at
the
entry
to
the
community
building
that
one
sliced
and
one
of
the
other
stair
towers
has
them,
but
we
intended
that
that
more
playful
component
would
be
on
the
interior.
Some
of
the
the
we
tried
to
bring
the
same
kind
of
on.
I
can't
find
the
right
word
but
unorthodox
little
playful
in
terms
of
the
railings
on
the
corridor
walkways
the
balconies
right,
one
of
their
fly-throughs
showed
these
things
with
a
curvilinear
top
and
we
wanted
to
bring
life
to
the
interior
as
opposed
to
it
being
static.
B
C
Plans
just
an
observation
that
a
couple
of
the
unit
plans
where
you
have
the
living
room
off
of
the
wall,
the
corridor
walkways
some
of
them-
you
that's
their
main
source
of
natural
and
some
of
them
are
corner
units
or
they
have
potential
for
large
windows
in
the
bedrooms.
I
just
wonder
if
you
might
take
another
look
at
some
of
those
unit
plans
and
see
if
you
can't
get
the
living's
main
living
spaces
to
get
more
natural
light
and
what
you
currently
are
showing.
B
M
F
N
Tight
code
review
the
way
we
interpret
it
with
the
rating,
the
fire
rating
and
the
distance.
We
think
we're
good
okay.
We
have
looked
at
it,
but
we
think
we're
good
okay,.
B
Rule
and
jeremy,
thanks
for
a
nice
presentation,
we'll
discuss
this
now
amongst
the
committee
and
give
you
an
answer.
B
Glenn,
I
have
a
question
as
far
as
how
we
move
this
ahead,
especially
on
the
landscaping
there's
really.
No,
there
are
no
call
outs
for
material
plant,
material
sizes
or
plant
material
quantities.
To
me,
it's
just
more
of
a
very
basic
concept
plan.
G
H
I
think
it's
a
beautiful
plan.
I
I
only
concur
with
your
comments
about
the
low-income
housing
is
beautiful,
and
I
very
much
like
the
the
landscaping
in
amongst
that
tight
quarters,
the
trees
and
things
are
providing
privacy
and
shade
and
coolness
in
there.
That
is
very
attractive.
H
The
I
will
say
one
you've
got
a
ole,
miss
parvifolia,
I
believe
in
yeah,
almost
folia
as
a
parking
lot
shade
tree.
I
would
like
to
recommend
they
pull
that
one
from
the
shade
tree
list.
It
drip
sap
and
it's
a
very
messy
tree
that
isn't
isn't
very
conducive
with
cars.
H
The
other
plants
within
the
list,
I
think,
are
all
nice
choices
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
what
they
pare
it
down
to
a
couple
of
the
dog
park.
I
agree
with
the
comment
I'd
like
to
know
what
what
happens
there
in
terms
of
usage.
What's
going
to
be
fenced?
What's
not
how
how
the
access
flows
a
little
a
little
better
in
the
evening,
you've
got
beautiful
specs
for
lighting
fantastic
fixtures
and
with
the
way
that
they're
laid
out,
I
think
it'll
be
beautiful.
It
also
says
or
similar.
H
So
if
it
is
the
or
similar,
I
hope
they
will
pay
close
attention
to
what
the
or
similar
fixtures
actually
do
versus
what
the
specs
do
up
in
the
very
north,
sorry,
south
west
corner
diagonally
from
that
very
corner,
is
residential.
You've
got
a
tall
pole
fixture
that
I
don't
think
the
neighbors
will
appreciate.
Very
very
much.
Is
that
corner
parking
lot
really
requiring
that
level
of
brightness,
with
with
the
neighbors
that
you
have
underneath
the
canopies
there's
a
lot
of
light
specked
as
you've
got
residents
a
residential
area?
H
Can
that
be
toned
down
as
hours
shift
into
deeper
into
the
night?
Can
some
of
them
be
on
timers
to
switch
off,
bringing
bring
more
conducive
nighttime
feel
to
the
to
the
space?
H
I
think
it's
a
you
know
it's
a
great
plan.
I
really
like
the
quantity
of
shade.
I
think
it's
a
great
job
on
the
sunrise
way.
I
concur
sean's
comments
about
entry
and
perhaps
some
more
landscape
up
there.
I
will
stop
there.
E
A
D
D
The
second
is
the
whole
challenge
of
the
vehicular
access
how
to
control
it
and
how
to
clarify
it,
and
then
the
third
is
the
the
programming
elements
that
you're
dealing
with.
So
I
think
all
in
all,
it's
it's
a
successful
and
an
intriguing
solution
that
you
put
together
here.
The
the
success
I
think
of
the
housing.
D
Exposure
on
the
sides,
as
well
as
a
reduced
building
massing
the
attention
to
to
shade,
is
critical,
a
lot
of
projects
we
see
just
you
know
it
could
be
in
the
bay
area,
but
there
this
thing
has
an
awareness
in
terms
of
traveling
from
point
a
to
point
b
being
protected
from
the
heat,
the
canopy
structures.
To
me
seem
a
little
bit
fragmented.
D
D
I
think
you've
taken
a
lot
of
dissonant
elements
in
terms
of
of
the
aesthetics,
the
building
and
the
massing
and
you've
kind
of
quieted
them
down
successfully,
with
emphasis
on
the
horizontal
line
and
shade
that
works
well
and
then
the
last
thing
I
would
mention
is
you
know
this
is
really
good,
because
it's
it's
almost
an
urban
planning
problem
inside
this
one
little
site.
So
so
your
your
solution
seems
to
put
high
value
on
every
piece.
D
F
Yeah,
I
I'm
you
know
again,
I
I'll
just
reiterate.
I
think
the
project
is
really
well
thought
out.
I
think
that
the
the
reskinning
of
the
buildings
to
to
make
them
more
integral
is
really
wonderful,
and
I
think
you
know
my
own.
My.
F
Is
it
just
feels
like
the
main
entrance
inside
of
to
the
pavilion
is
a
bit
underwhelming
and
it
just
doesn't
punch
as
much
as
I
would
hope
it
would?
That's
that's
really.
My
home.
B
B
My
final
comment
we
haven't
talked
about
it
yet
is
about
the
colors,
and
if
everybody
can
look
at
page
31
in
the
law
and
the
big
handout,
they
gave
us
they're,
calling
out
the
body
color
as
a
dove
white,
which
is
letter
a
and
if
you
look
at
the
west
elevation,
which
is
the
bottom
elevation,
it
is
quite
white
and
if
you
look
at
the
top,
the
south
elevation,
the
same
designation
a
is
on
a
much
more
of
a
taupey
or
gray
sort
of
color,
and
I
know
we're
not
seeing
a
true
paint
sample
drawdown.
B
A
Number
one
was
relative
to
parking
lot
tree
shading
mentioned
a
specific
tree
that
they
should
look
at
replacing
also
investigate
relative
to
the
dog
park.
The
access
to
that
and
fencing
of
the
dog
park,
that's
something
that
they
should
resolve
when
they
come
back
to
you.
A
A
So
if
we
could
have
the
applicant
look
at
that
when
it
comes
back
for
the
final
plan,
development
district
review
and
then
finally
on
the
colors,
what
we
will
want
to
see
is
color
samples
being
provided
to
the
architectural
advisory
committee
so
that
we
can
verify
truly
what
those
will
be
on
the
building.
So
those
were
the
key
comments
that
I
heard
in
your
summary.
Is
there
anything
else
that
you
would
like
the
applicant
to
look
at
as
that
comes
back
for
the
final
plan,
development
district
and
conditions
that
we
would
then
yeah.
E
Two
things
john
yeah
tom
had
mentioned
and-
and
I
didn't
reiterate
on
it,
but
agreed
that
the
roof
structure
and
the
potential
for
abandoning
the
existing
roof
structure.
E
B
E
B
B
Job:
okay,
that
finishes
our
agenda.
Are
there
any
committee
member
comments
or
staff
member
comments
just
about
things
in
general,.
A
Yes,
mr
chair,
you
are
dark
in
august.
At
this
point
we
are
potentially
looking
at
having
both
of
these
september
meetings.
The
first
would
be
on
september,
the
8th
and
then
the
second
on
september,
the
21st
at
this
point.
Those
will
still
be
via
zoom,
but
we
do
have
a
couple
of
applications
that
we're
starting
to
back
up,
and
so
we
will
probably
go
to
two
meetings
in
september,
just
looking
at
our
calendar,
thus
far.
A
So
if
you
could
keep
updates
and
be
available
for
the
meeting
on
those
dates,
that
would
be
great.
Thank
you.