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A
You
all
right
public
comment,
ladies
and
gentlemen
of
the
audience.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
historic
site,
Preservation
Board
on
agenda
items
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
board,
although
the
historic
site,
Preservation
Board,
values
your
comments
pursuant
to
the
Brown
Act,
it
generally
cannot
take
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
There
will
be
three
minutes
assigned
for
each
speaker.
Testimony
for
public
hearings
will
be
taken
at
the
time
of
the
hearing.
A
We
do
not
have
any
public
hearings
on
the
agenda
today.
So,
if
you'd
like
to
address
the
the
board
this
morning,
now
would
be
the
time
will
officially
open
the
public
hearing
and
members
of
the
audience
are
invited
to
come
forward.
Please
welcome
in
good
morning.
It's
really
nice
to
see
you
please
introduce
it
all
right.
Please
welcome
I,
know
right.
D
I
should
have
remembered
anyway,
I'm
here
to
present
an
idea
that
we've
been
kicking
around
in
in
the
neighborhood
for
quite
a
while.
D
There
was
a
movement
to
get
a
plaque
for
the
Truman
Capote
house
on
El
Mirador,
which
is
in
my
neighborhood,
and
they
came
to
me
with
the
idea.
The
owners
were
were
fine
with
it
until
their
reconstruction
of
the
house.
Just
as
you
might
well
imagine
those
of
you
have
done
it
gone
on
and
on
and
on
and
we're
gonna
pass
the
date.
So
we
started
thinking
about
other
ideas
and
gee.
D
Westminster
Abbey
came
to
mind
and
we
thought
you
have
a
historic
building
here
in
town
that
happens
to
be
a
library,
and
wouldn't
it
be
nice
to
have
not
necessarily
the
Poets
Corner,
though,
we've
had
some
good
poets
here,
but
a
writer's
wall
of
recognition.
The
plaques
would
cost
the
city
of
Palm
Springs,
nothing
they're
all
handled
by
by
donations
and
through
an
organization
which
is
trying
to
promote
literacy.
What
we
do
need
is
the
wall.
D
Perhaps
if,
if
you
would
all
agree
at
the
well,
would
Murray
as
you
are
leaving
the
front
door,
I
think
it
would
be
an
attractive
addition,
an
interesting
addition
to
a
library
and
certainly
an
historic
addition
to
that
particular
area
of
town.
The
first
plaque
would
be
because
we
have
it
organized-
is
true
and
Capote
with
the
dates
of
his
residence
here,
perhaps
even
where
he
lived.
But
it's
very
brief.
The
plaque
is
about
that
big
I'm
I
am
horrible,
Longet
architect.
How
big
is
that?
D
There
was,
of
course,
Sidney
Sheldon,
who
was
a
great
party
man
here,
and
not
only
did
he
write
novels,
but
he
was
a
very
important
screenwriter
and
did
a
lot
of
television
series.
So
there
there
are
a
lot
of
connections
here
in
Palm
Springs.
It
would
be
a
nice
recognition.
I
think
it
would
be
a
nice
focal
point
in
that
area
of
town,
which
is
trying
to
focus
on
the
history
of
Palm
Springs.
It
goes
along
with
a
walk
of
stars.
The
museum's
only
a
few
feet
away.
D
C
D
We
have
talked
to
the
Friends
of
the
library
they're
on
board,
but
they
have
to
wait
until
all
the
board.
Members
are
back
in
town
and
apparently
that
is
very
sporadic
as
far
as
their
dates,
but
we
did
talk
to
Jacqueline
walks.
The
idea
came
originally
from
Joel
Vig.
If
any
of
you
know
him
and
we,
as
I
said,
we've
talked
to
the
Friends
of
the
library.
B
A
E
E
D
A
In
it's,
okay,
no!
It's
it's
good,
it's
good!
So
Flynn!
Thank
you
for
reminding
us
we'll
have
a
discussion
about
it
later,
thanks
for
bringing
it
to
our
attention,
adding
some
personal
touch
to
it.
The
gentleman
who
wrote
Casablanca
that
was
that
Irving
yep
yeah
that
was
also
done
here
in
Palm,
Springs
I,
think
it's.
A
D
A
Right,
good,
any
other
questions
of
Roxanne
Roxanne
very
nice
to
see
you
thank
you
and
for
those
who
aren't
aware,
Roxanne
is
a
former
board
member
of
the
Historic
Site
Preservation
Board,
so
very
nice
to
see
you
again
this
morning,
all
right.
Anyone
else
in
the
I
do
that's
very
nice,
Thank
You
audience
anyone
else
in
the
audience
wishing
to
address
the
board
this
morning
during
our
public
comment
period.
Please
come
forward.
A
Good
morning
into
the
microphone
and
you'll
have
a
little
signup
sheet
there
and
please
introduce
yourself.
F
Okay,
my
name
is
Mitch
Leininger
and
I'm
here
to
discuss
3a
and
I'm.
The
board
president
and
I
have
been
working
with
Ken
Lyon,
to
put
together
a
package
to
make
a
further
recommendation
to
the
mechanical
screening
on
top
of
our
roofs.
Instead
of
building
a
fence
around
our
air-conditioning
units,
it
is
our
proposal
that
we
paint
the
unit's
the
same
color
as
our
buildings
and
that's--and
cliff
I've
also
called
that
out
on
the
on
the
recommendation
as
well,
and
I've
got
some
supporters
from
our
homeowners
association
here
as
well.
F
So
I
just
would
like
to
encourage
the
HSP
be
to
approve
us
moving
forward
with
painting
our
units.
Another
recommendation
by
our
arc
committee
is
to
also
recommend
low
profile
units,
because
that's
what
our
parapets
were
originally
designed
for
was
to
hide
the
Lowepro
to
hide
the
air-conditioning
units
with
low
profile
instead
of
the
high
capacity
ones
that
are
currently
showing
up.
So
that's
a
recommendation
that
our
board
also
has
to
move
forward
with.
So
any
questions,
ok,.
C
F
C
A
F
A
A
Thank
you.
Anyone
else
in
the
audience
wishing
to
address
us
this
morning,
all
righty.
Thank
you
very
much.
Seeing
none
we'll
close
the
public
comment
period.
Moving
on
to
the
agenda,
we
have
our
consent
calendar.
The
first
item
on
the
consent
calendar
is
the
approval
of
the
minutes
from
July.
So
did
everybody
have
an
opportunity
to
look
at
our
July
minutes?
Are
there
any
comments?
Edits
changes,
questions,
Linda,
I
will.
A
A
All
right,
excellent
and
again
before
we
get
a
second
well
no
I'll
take
the
second
I
can
do
this
under
discussion
a
second
on
the
consent,
calendar
acceptance
of
the
minutes
so
moved.
Okay!
Thank
you.
We
have
the
second
from
Vincent
any
further
discussion
or
comments.
I
just
like
to
comment
just
to
sort
of
refresh
the
board's
memory,
because
I
certainly
refresh
my
memory,
the
discussion
that
we
had
on
the
museum
signage.
So
if
you
recall
I,
think
Flynn.
A
Thank
you
for
capturing
the
comments
of
the
board
on
the
museums,
signage
program
and
I,
assume
that
we
might
see
that
again
sometime
in
the
future,
we
will
assume
so
yes,
okay.
Thank
you
all
right,
all
in
favor
of
accepting
the
minutes
with
the
edit
by
or
the
amendment
by
mr.
Marsh
aye,
all
right.
Anyone
opposed
okay
and
you
have
the
recusal
from
Linda
Dixon.
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
A
B
H
A
Any
further
discussion
I
would
simply
also
say
that
I
thought
it
was
a
excellent
solution
to
keeping
that
roof
line
clean
and
and
undisturbed,
and
if
mr.
Lavoie
feels
the
same
way,
then
I
am
encouraged
to
call
for
the
vote
all
in
favor
aye
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much.
So
that
completes
the
consent.
Calendar
items
as
I
mentioned.
We
do
not
have
a
public
hearing
this
morning,
so
we'll
go
on
to
item
number
three
on
the
agenda
and
this
is
unfinished
business.
G
Chair
John
wind
David
good
morning,
good
morning,
board
members.
This
is
a
request
to
Azure.
We
actually
excuse
me
before
I
could
be
in
there.
As
you
recall,
back
in
December
of
last
year,
you
reviewed
a
request
to
issue
a
certificate
of
approval
for
the
replacement
of
Windows
and
an
exemption
from
rooftop
screening
requirements,
so
that
was
back
in
December
of
last
year.
At
that
meeting,
the
board
approved
the
replacement
of
the
Windows,
but
also
rejected
the
exemption
to
the
rooftop
mechanical
screening
and
requested
that
the
applicant
return
with
an
alternative
proposal.
G
So
what
the
African
is
now
requesting
is
to,
instead
of
installing
rooftop
mechanical
screening,
they
would
like
to
paint
the
mechanical
equipment
on
the
roofs
to
match
the
building.
So
what
you
see
here
on
the
screen
is
a
photo
of
some
of
the
rooftop
mechanical
units
that
exist
today
and
then
what
they've
done
is
they've
painted
those
to
match
this
color,
which
it's
kind
of
hard
to
see
on
the
screen.
But
it
looks
white
here.
It's
actually
kind
of
a
tannish
color,
the
building.
G
A
G
Very
different
on
my
screen
than
this
screen,
so
it's
hard
to
tell
the
technology,
so
this
is
a
depiction
of
the
mechanical
units
being
painted,
so
it
does
blend
in
better
with
the
building
and
the
architecture.
It's
a
simplified
view.
It's
implied.
It
simplifies
the
overall
design
and
doesn't
create
additional
rooftop
lines
that
the
African
fills
would
be
unnecessary.
So
staff
does
support
the
request
to
repaint
the
mechanical
units
on
the
roof,
to
match
the
building
and.
A
I
B
Not
need
to
go
to
City
Council.
There
are
two
aspects
of
the
code
relative
to
mechanical
screen
number
one
is
that
the
director
has
the
ability
to
waive
or
alter
requirements
depending
on
the
architecture
of
the
building,
and
then,
secondly,
because
it
is
a
historic
district,
we
do
have
the
ability
to
modify
our
standards
in
that
regard
relative
to
the
impact
to
the
historic
structures
within
that
district.
So
there
is
no
code
change
needed
for
your
action
today.
Okay,.
I
And
then
my
second
question
I,
don't
know
who
I'd
direct
this
to
so
these
units
are
all
factory
painted
with
either
baked
enamel
or
there.
Some
of
them
are
made
from
plastic
components.
Now,
painting
them
is
going
to
be
a
relatively
tricky
job,
so
it's
got
some
longevity
to
it
and
I
guess
my
concern
with
painting
a
factory
unit.
That's
comprised
of
either
baked
enamel
in
some
cases
or
plastic
is
in
a
very
short
period
of
time.
F
F
We
have
an
annual
maintenance
contract
with
Springs
painting
and
they
come
back
and
they
touch
up
our
building
on
an
annual
basis,
that's
usually
in
the
summer,
so
they
actually
go
around
our
entire
campus
and
homeowners
also
report
areas
that
need
attention
and
that's
how
we
deal
with
that
type
of
thing.
So.
I
F
I
haven't
asked
them
specifically,
but
I'm
going
to
have
a
come,
get
together
with
our
vendor
that
we
select,
we
obviously
have
to
put
it
out
for
bid,
but
we
usually
use
springs.
Painting
is
who
our
normal
vendor
is,
but
I
do
have
a
homeowner,
that's
pretty
knowledgeable
about.
What's
going
on
with
the
mechanical
screening
of
you
know
not
paying
painting
the
vents,
only
painting
the
metal
parts
etc,
and
so
my
thought
was
that
we
were
probably
going
to
be
spray-painting
them.
It
wasn't
going
to
be
hand
painted.
I
F
I
F
I
I
I
guess
I'd
feel
more
comfortable,
seeing
an
actual
to
paint
two
different
units
that
they've
tried
to
paint,
and
this
is
the
part
that's
not
painted
so
I
get
a
more
realistic
view
of
what
the
end
result
is
gonna,
be
because
if
you're
saying
there
are
certain
things
that
aren't
going
to
get
painted,
then
that
whole
box
may
not
be
tan.
That
box
may
be
part
tan
part,
black
part,
silver
part
white,
well,.
F
I
A
F
F
A
G
There
there
are
units
that
we
currently
have
on
our
roof
that
have
been
painted.
There
are
different
colored
air
conditioning
units
as
a
matter
of
fact,
from
my
front
door,
I
look
across
to
Garden
Villas
East,
where
there
are
six
units
on
the
buildings,
and
three
of
them
are
different
colors
than
the
other
ones.
I
think
a
lot
of
it
depends
on
whether
they're
older.
A
F
F
A
B
We
have
a
number
of
units
that
have
been
painted
to
various
degrees
of
success.
What
I
might
suggest
to
the
board
is
that
if
your
action
is
to
approve
this,
what
you
might
do
is
have
a
review
in
one
year's
time
just
to
monitor
how
the
painting
has
resulted
and
being
able
to
maybe
perhaps
bring
the
HOA
back
to
discuss
that
Thank.
C
F
C
A
F
C
F
F
F
We're
right
also
right
in
the
middle
of
a
reroofing
program
as
well,
and
we
are
also
on
the
modernism
tour
this
year,
so
in
order
to
get
things
going,
we're
trying
to
we're
also
putting
in
additional
screen
block
walls
that
are
going
to
be
starting
tomorrow.
So
we
do
have
a
lot
of
projects
going
on
right
now,
so
I
would
like
to
get
this
done
as
soon
as
possible.
F
I,
don't
think
that
getting
on
the
roof
and
painting
is
going
to
interfere
with
the
construction
of
the
walls
that
we
have
going
on,
and
it
would
be
nice
to
get
it
done
before
modernism
week
starts
so
that
we
are
really
pristine.
Looking
and
that's
always,
our
goal
is
to
make
sure
our
place
looks
pristine.
Thank.
H
F
The
air
conditioning
units
themselves
have
different
orientations
to
them,
so
some
of
them,
you
will
see
they
may
be
turned
towards
the
street
and
have
that
visible.
But
this
one
does
not
appear
to
be
that
way.
The
the
mechanic,
the
mechanics
of
it,
what
you're
talking
about
the
pipes
that
are
coming
out
of
it,
the
the
electrical
box,
that's
attached
to
it
and
stuff
I
like
I,
said:
I
was
not
up
on
the
roof
to
actually
see
it.
I
was
taking
these
from
down
below,
but
they
could
be
on
the
backside
of
that
particular
unit.
A
In
the
conclusion,
the
proposed
painting
of
rooftop
mechanical
units
in
lieu
of
code
required
screening
is
an
appropriate
alternative
solution
to
deal
with
the
visual
impacts
of
the
larger
size
of
these
new
pieces
of
equipment.
So
I
found
that
information
very
encouraging
for
to
help
me
make
a
decision.
I.
Think
mr.
Hayes's
concerns
are
well
thought
out,
as
well
as
mr.
Lavoie
and
Flynn
I.
Think
your
suggestion
of,
if
we
do
move
to
approve
this,
that
we
call
for
a
review
within
a
year
to
see
how
that
is
actually
working
out.
Those
are
my
comments.
H
I
have
an
issue
with
white,
it
would
be
it
makes
it
look
like
it's
part
of
the
architecture,
and
so,
if
they
were
painted,
say
a
gray
that
would
almost
this
color
wall
gray.
They
would
recede
and
blend
in
with
the
sky
more
and
not
appear
to
be
part
of
the
architecture
and
would
be
more
consistent
with
the
Secretary
of
Interior
standards
of
differentiating
original
from
well.
A
And
I
appreciate
that
comment
and
had
I
finished
reading
the
staff
reports
conclusion.
It
does
go
on
to
say
the
proposal
conforms
to
the
guidelines
for
considering
alterations
to
contributing
structures
in
a
historic
district
and
the
Secretary
of
Interior
standards,
but,
as
certainly
as
I
know
it
and
we've
had
this
conversation
quite
a
bit.
We
like
to
differentiate
the
new
from
the
original
in
a
paint
change
and
a
finished
change.
B
H
H
F
A
H
Floor,
the
one
on
the
right
is
more
acceptable.
It's
a
lighter
gray
on
a
blue
sky
day
will
disappear
more
than
white
it.
Wiii
I
mean
you
photographed
on
a
cloudy
day,
which
is
gray
and
and
so
that
light
that's
why
I
mentioned
the
wall.
Color
gray
is
a
fairly
light.
Battleship
gray
for
lack
of
a
better
word
tends
to
recede
white.
Just
is
in
your
face,
and
then
this
is
based
on
my
experience
up
in
Santa
Barbara,
where
we
typically
require
things
that
pop
through
the
sky
to
be
painted
gray.
F
H
C
H
A
J
A
I
Todd
so
as
this
photo
is,
photoshopped
it'd
be
incredibly
easy
to
come
back
to
us
with
the
same
photo
Photoshop
because
with
a
really
light
gray,
so
we
could
look
at
it.
I
understand
both
of
the
arguments
and
I'm
actually
not
sure
which
camp
I'm
in
at
the
moment
the
I
certainly
get
the
the
color,
and
you
don't
want
it
to
look
like
it's
trying
to
mimic
or
pretend
to
be
part
of
the
original
architecture.
I
A
A
suggestion
maybe
I'd
like
to
keep
your
project
moving
forward
because
you
do
have
sort
of
a
built-in
timeline.
Can
we
form
a
brief
subcommittee
of
mr.
Lavoie
and
mr.
Hays
just
to
see
that
photoshopped
image
and
with
the
board
agree
to
allow
to
our
subcommittee
to
determine
whether
it
goes
this
way
or
a
pale
gray?.
E
A
I
A
A
K
C
B
A
A
A
second
well,
no
I
thought
we
had
it
that
I
thought
that
was
indeed
a
motion.
I'll
accept
a
motion
bill.
Please,
okay,
all
right!
Thank
you!
Keeping
me
straight
on
the
straight
and
narrow
okay,
any
further
discussion
on
that
excellent.
All
in
favor,
aye,
all
right,
I
think
that's
a
good
suggestion
for
moving
forward
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much
saying
cliff.
You
know
on
that
topic,
I'd
like
just
before
we
move
on.
A
A
I'm,
so
I
wish
that
we
had
thought
about
this
as
an
alternative
way
for
Kaptur
Plaza,
because
to
the
photoshopped
image
there
and
to
Bill's
example,
I
think
boy,
that's
a
I
think
that's
a
way
to
look
towards
the
future
on
dealing
with
these
units
on
historic
buildings
and
historic
districts.
So
that's
my
two
cents.
A
Itself,
excellent
good
work
board.
Thank
you
very
much,
we'll
move
on
to
new
I
new
business,
and
now
we
are
at
number
four
for
a,
and
this
is
a
certificate
of
approval
request
by
orange
Electrical
Contractors
Inc
on
behalf
of
Bank
of
America
owner
to
replace,
exist,
exterior
lighting
at
the
Bank
of
America
building
a
class-one
Historic
Site
located
at
588
South
Palm
Canyon
Drive.
The
recommendation
is
to
approve
subject
to
conditions
staff
report.
Please
and.
L
Good
to
be
in
front
of
the
HSP
be
bored
again,
so
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
the
information
I
passed
out
to
you
just
right
now
is
some
revisions,
there's
not
a
lot
of
revisions,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
talking
from
the
same
plan
so
that
everyone
is
not
confused.
So
what
I'd
like
to
start
off
with
what
I
want
to
do
is
break
down
the
project
into
three
specific
sections.
One
is
the
parking
lot
lighting
the
lighting
at
the
ATM
machine
and
then
the
lighting
on
the
building
itself.
L
So
before
you
today,
we
have
a
proposal
from
Bank
of
America
to
remove
14
existing
fixtures
replaced
with
new
fixtures,
install
11
new
fixtures,
install
seven
new
light,
poles
and
bases,
removing
8
light
fixtures
completely
and
wash
and
re
lamp
19.
Existing
fixtures
and
I'll
go
over
each
of
these
shortly.
L
So
in
your
packet,
you
have
a
photometric
plan
of
the
Bank
of
America
building,
which
is
at
the
corner
of
South
Palm,
Canyon,
Drive
and
South
Indian
Canyon
Drive.
The
building
itself
is
at
the
sort
of
corner
of
the
building.
Then
there's
a
parking
lot
then
there's
an
ATM
drive-through
at
the
north
end,
which
is
adjacent
to
the
500
building,
which
fronts
along
Ramon
Road.
L
To
look
at
the
parking
lot
lighting.
You
can
see,
there's
a
light
pole
that
is
there
off
to
the
right.
These
are
around
16
to
18
feet
tall.
There
are,
they
are
scattered
throughout
the
parking
lot,
mainly
along
the
the
parking
lot
island.
That
is
the
center
of
the
parking
lot
and
there
are
several
places
where
the
lights
have
been:
are
not
there,
they've
been
removed
or
replaced,
or
have
disappeared
and
they're
looking
to
replace
these
light
poles.
L
This
is
the
light
fixture
that
they're
proposing
to
use,
which
is
an
LED
sort
of
a
box
light
that
focuses
the
light
down
and
once
again
back
to
the
photometric
plan.
It
is
if
I
can
use
the
pointer
here.
It
is
the
area,
the
lights
that
are
in
the
middle
of
the
parking
lot.
There
are
some
one,
the
ends
or
the
exterior
of
the
parking
lot
that
will
be
re.
The
new
heads
will
go
on
top
of
the
poles
and
several
new
lights.
We
replaced
in
spots
where
they're
missing.
A
G
L
So
in
the
staff
report
there
are
our
smaller
drawings
and
I
blew
them
up,
so
you
could
see
them
a
little
bit
better.
Okay,
thank
you.
Okay
next
is
the
ATM
drive-thru.
As
you
see
here,
there
are
multiple
lights
and
conduit.
That
is
on
the
building
that
was
put
on
here
on
this
structure
and
the
building
before
the
property
was
classified
as
a
class-one,
so
there
were
lights
that
obviously
don't
conform
to
the
original
design
of
the
building.
L
There
are
lights
like
this,
which
are
these
large
wall
pack
lights,
that
this
one
is
pointing
up
into
the
sky
to
the
flag.
There
we
go
and
then
there
are
also
lights
that
are
up
underneath
the
ATM
machine,
so
you'll
see
there's
some
some
recessed
lights
and
some
other
wal
pakka
lights
that
don't
conform
to
the
outdoor
lighting
standards.
L
One
thing
to
mention
is
that
a
bank
has
certain
state
requirements
as
to
what
the
lighting
has
to
be
around
things
like
ATM
machines,
night-deposit
shelves-
and
you
know,
there's
another
ATM
machine
at
the
building
itself.
So
we
have
to
keep
those
lighting
standards
in
mind
and
they
have
to
meet
them
and
that's
this
plan
that's
proposed
to
you
today
does
meet
those
plan.
L
Okay,
the
ATM
drive
up
is
where
these
lights
will
be
held,
they're
placed
so
once
again,
this
is
a
blow-up
I
know
it's
hard
to
see
on
the
screen,
but
you
have
this
in
your
packet
of
the
lumens
or
the
photometric
that
goes
around
the
the
ATM
and
the
front
entrance
to
the
bank
itself,
and
this
does
meet
the
lumen
requirements
by
the
state
and
in
reviewing
several
photometric
plans
over
the
years
here
in
Palm
Springs.
The
light
that's
proposed
is
not
overly
bright.
L
L
You'll
see
the
the
fascia
lights
that
are
the
round
lights
that
are
original
to
the
building
itself.
Staff
is
requesting
that
they
remove
those
lights
and
replace
them
so
that
those
square
rekt
those
square
lights
would
come
off
and
the
new
LED
lights
that
would
be
up
under
the
fascia
would
be
sufficient
to
light
the
area.
So
you'll
see
there's
three
up
on
the
overhang
and
then
one
on
the
right
under
the
Bank
of
America
sign.
G
L
L
G
L
I
L
So
the
light
that
would
be
above
the
the
night
light
would
be
the
the
wall-mounted
light,
that's
flush
against
the
wall,
and
this
is
another
photograph
of
the
recessed
lights,
the
round
lights.
That
will
stay
up
in
up
in
the
fascia
or
the
overhang,
and
this
is
a
photograph
of
the
front
of
the
building
larger
view.
L
So
you
could
see
the
lights
that
are
there
and
the
goal
is
to
remove
all
of
the
the
box
lights
and
have
the
lights
conform
to
what
the
state
requires
for
banks,
but
yet
be
consistent
with
the
design
of
the
architecture
of
the
building.
So
that
concludes
my
report.
You'll
see
in
the
staff
report.
There
are
findings
that
you
need
to
make
there
are.
There
is
a
chart
that
describes
the
lumens
for
each
of
the
the
specific
lights
and
there
are
some
new
designs.
L
A
Just
stand
stand
by
for
a
few
minutes
before
I
turn
the
floor
over
to
Todd
I
wanted
to
commend
again
I
think
it's
an
excellent
staff
report.
I
read
it
through
last
night.
I
think
that
you've
done
a
tremendous
amount
of
advance
work
on
this.
The
viewer
recommendation
to
approve
the
subject
with
the
following
conditions:
I
read
through
that
list
of
conditions,
I
think
that
you
have
the
design
the
architecture
of
the
building
you've
taken
it
into
consideration.
I
I
H
H
G
C
C
I
G
H
B
G
B
G
C
L
C
G
I
G
G
G
I
G
G
G
If
it
is
a
major
issue
in
a
concerning
factor,
if
we're
talking
one
or
two
feet
to
make
a
mall
level,
I
could
give
the
authorization
to
do
that.
But
the
reason
is
due
to
the
lighting
levels
throughout
the
parking
lot
trees
in
the
area
shade
from
the
adjacent
buildings
and
sunlight
all
effective
otometrics,
but.
A
G
L
The
the
zoning
code
does
have
lighting
standards,
outdoor
lighting
standards
for
commercial
parking
lots
and
we
evaluate
standards
that
are
in
that
lighting,
ordinance
for
maximum
and
minimum
lighting
standards
for
lumens.
The
way
the
the
boxes
or
the
the
fixtures
are
focused
downward
so
that
the
light
doesn't
spill
into
the
air.
So
the
Lighting's,
the
fixtures
that
were
proposed,
meet
those
standards
they
they
will
meet.
The
night-sky
ordinance.
C
L
L
That
is
acceptable
and,
as
you
get
farther
away
from
those
spots,
the
light
gets
lower
that
down
to
like
a
1,
lumen
or
lumen,
as
opposed
to
like
a
10
or
12
lumen
under
the
canopies,
the
you
know,
lighting
will
still
glow,
you'll
still
see
it,
but
it
won't
spill
out
onto
other
portions
of
the
streets
or
into
the
sky.
Thank.
C
H
You
please
the
light
that's
over
the
night
depository.
Could
you
show
me
that
one
again,
please.
G
A
C
A
L
L
B
C
B
A
A
E
A
And
we've
certainly
seen
this
building
before
I
believe
we
ended
up
approving
these
big
box
lights
under
the
soffit,
because
a
few
years
ago
they
were
mounted
on
the
roof
and
they
were
hanging
off
the
top
of
the
building,
and
so
we've
been
looking
at
this
project
for
a
while
again
I
think
your
staff
report,
all
the
effort
that
you've
put
into
it
about
the
conduit
and
surface
mounted
and
I
think
you've
done
an
excellent,
excellent
job.
So
I
don't
have
any
further
questions.
I
trust
the
city
on
this
and
I
trust.
A
H
A
E
Had
more
of
his
work
here,
it
really
is
outstanding.
I,
too,
would
like
to
compliment
the
ownership
of
this
Bank
for
being
good
stewards.
If
we
could
just
get
other
int
city
from
time
to
time,
that
would
go
along
that
same
path.
This
is
a
great
benchmark
and
we
use
it
a
lot.
So
we
really
appreciate
what
you're
doing.
Thank
you.
A
Very
nice,
oh
okay,
again
I'll
entertain
a
motion.
Sure.
H
A
C
A
H
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
for
coming.
Thank
you.
Please.
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
a
staff
poet
corner
of
concept
board.
Let.
B
B
Introduce
and
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
I'd
like
to
ask
Judy
case
the
city's
director
of
the
library
to
come
forward
to
the
table.
If
she
wouldn't
mind
this
proposal,
this
idea
was
submitted
to
staff
and,
as
you'll
recall,
mr.
chair
that
I
circulated
to
the
board
members,
you
all
decided
that
you
would
like
to
discuss
this
on
today's
agenda
as
a
discussion
item
in
terms
of
the
proposal,
because
what
has
been
requested
is
to
do
the
plaques
on
the
interior
of
the
building.
It
doesn't
really
need
the
board's
approval.
B
I
thought
it
was
important
for
you
all
to
hear
this
discussion
and
to
understand
what
the
proposal
was,
but
again,
because
it's
on
the
interior
of
the
building
I,
don't
think
it
requires
any
certificate
of
approval
from
the
board
per
se.
However,
I
do
think
it's
an
interesting
idea,
certainly
something
that
plays
to
the
city's
history
and
recognizing
figures
that
have
been
important
to
the
city's
history
and
what
I
would
do
is
ask
Jeanne
in
terms
of
the
proposal
of
locating
plaques
on
the
interior
walls
of
the
well
with
Marie.
K
K
As
far
as
the
library
goes,
this
was
not
our
idea
and
so
I
am
concerned
about
it.
I
I
have
concerns
about.
We
don't
want
to
here,
adhere
anything
to
the
interior
walls
because
their
port
and
place
concrete
their
historic.
We
don't
want
to
do
any
any
drilling.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
space
there
either
and
then,
who
decides?
Who
is
on
the
plaque?
And
we
don't
they're
the
decision?
It
I
don't
know
so
for
us
this.
We
are
not
in
favor
of
this
as
a
library
to
do
a
Poets
Corner.
K
We
might
consider
an
exhibit,
which
we
do
have
an
exhibit
wall,
that's
safe
and
changeable,
but
we
do
have
scheduled
things
on
there
regularly.
So
we
could
certainly
do
an
exhibit
and
make
this
something
that
we
do
have
exhibit
cabinets
places
to
to
put
memorabilia
or
ephemeral
or
something
like
that.
So
I
know
we
did
do
an
exhibit
at
one
time
for
when
the
tournament
Capote
star
went
in
place
and
we
had
his
hat
and
I
think
a
typewriter
or
something
there
was.
There
were
some
things,
so
we
could
certainly
do
an
exhibit
I.
K
Just
I
am
not
in
favor
of
doing
a
permanent
display
because
the
the
decision
making
for
who
who's
who's
important
enough
to
be
on
that
wall
is
subjective.
If
you
will,
and
so
I
I
just
have
some
concerns
about
it
myself
and
if
we're
talking
about
exposure
to
significant
writers
and
Palm
Springs
I
think
even
the
Palm
Springs
Public
Library,
the
main
library,
has
much
more
foot
traffic
than
well
would
and
I.
K
You
know
we
we
had
two
hundred
twenty
three
thousand
people
visit
the
library
last
year,
the
main
library
sixty
five
thousand
visit.
Well,
would
so,
if
you're
thinking
about
exposure,
then
the
main
library
might
be
a
better
place,
but
at
this
point
we're
not
in
favor
of
a
permanent
a
wall
with
plaques.
So
that's
that's
my
stance.
A.
A
K
We
have
interacted
with
mr.
Vig
on
Truman
Capote.
He
he
was
trying
to
we
in
a
library
world.
There's
the
American
Library
Association
has
a
recognition,
model
called
literary
landmarks
and
they
will
oftentimes
approve
sites
in
locations
where
writers
lived
or
worked
or
significant
places,
and
so
he
had
requested
that
the
Truman
Capote
home
be
part
of
the
literary
landmark
program.
But
the
owners
of
the
home
have
indicated
that
they're
not
interested,
and
so
I
think
that
this
is
another
way
to
honor
Truman
Capote,
because
he
lived
here
in
Palm,
Springs
so
and.
A
K
Most
of
my
concern
is
about
cluttering
well
wood
and
I.
Don't
we
don't
have
much
wall
space
at
all?
If
you,
if
you've
been
in
there,
I
think
that
that
poster
on
the
wall
is
about
the
size
of
two
different
wall
areas
that
we
have
and
those
are
concrete
and
again
I,
don't
want
to
I.
Don't
want
to
touch
that
and
I
know
you,
don't
you
don't
want
us
to
touch
that
either
we
do.
We
have
a
hung,
are
at
the
building's
the
art.
I
K
Donated
the
land
for
that
that
site
and
then
there's
another
one
that
Mayor
punier
requested
because
there
was
a
longtime
volunteer
and
that
one's
in
the
hall,
but
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
stuff
there.
We
don't
have
decor,
we
don't
have
plants,
we
just
the
building
is
itself
and
it
stands
alone.
So
I
guess
so.
I'm.
Sorry,
I
didn't
really
answer
your
question.
K
E
You
know
what
originally
it
was
presented
to
us
earlier
this
morning
was
just
kept
imagining
how
many
plaques
could
you
put
on
there
I
mean
if
it
was
just
a
nameplate,
like
often
is
done,
let's
say
like
at
the
Museum.
That
would
be
one
thing,
but
and
again
this
is
kind
of
foreign
for
us,
yes,
I
mean
it
does
affect
the
interior
architecture.
A
K
Was
notified
about
this
through
HS
PB
I
was
not
approached
directly.
Okay,
so
I.
Don't
really
know,
I
think
that
the
well
wood
is
probably
the
preferential
site,
but
we
do
have
the
exhibit
wall,
so
we
can
I'm
open
to
considering
an
exhibit,
which
would
be
a
temporary
thing,
but
it's
something
that
we
could
adhere
to
the
exhibit
wall
which
is
designed
for
exhibits.
We
do
the
one
at
on
Veterans
Day
for
fallen
heroes.
We
do
we
did
one
at
summer
reading.
C
The
speaker
that
presented
it
to
us,
miss
applause,
I,
think
she
said
that
she
had
just
spoken
to
individual
people
that
the
board
has
not
been
presented
with
this,
so
I
think
it's
an
idea
that
they
are
presenting
and
I
hope
that
your
board
I
hope
it's
on
your
board
agenda
and
that
your
board
has
an
opportunity
to
discuss
it
because
I
think
it's
an
interesting
idea.
I,
don't
know
about
a
place
for
it
or
whether
it
should
be
one
library
versus
the
other
library,
but
I
think
it's
an
interesting
idea.
K
B
Going
to
throw
something
out
there
for
consideration
by
the
group
who
is
spearheading,
this
movement
is
at
some
point
in
time
we
may
be
doing
the
Wellwood,
Marie
patio
area
and
maybe
a
wall,
a
garden
wall
or
something
like
that
might
be
an
appropriate
place
for
some
type
of
a
memorial.
But
again
that's
something
that
could
be
considered
by
the
library
board.
Should
they
want
to
pursue
that
idea.
So
I
will
just
throw
that
out
there
and
again.
E
Another
option
that
blend
triggered
here
some
thoughts
was
on
the
patio
that
we're
working
on
together,
the
the
benches,
the
chairs,
actually
the
one
of
the
benches
that
I
when
I
was
doing
all
the
research
to
be
able
to
prints
them
to
the
AGC
is,
do
they
do
have
plaque
company
actually
makes
plaques,
so
that
could
be
an
interesting
way
to
non-obtrusive
and
you
know,
but
still
honor
the
significant
authors
as
long
as
the
library
board
obviously
would
have
final
approval.
I
would
think.
E
H
A
That
note,
on
that
note,
the
village
green,
the
village
green,
the
entire
patio
area
on
Palm
Canyon
Drive,
around
Cornelia
Whitehouse,
leading
up
to
the
Adobe.
Those
are
all
bricks
with
people's
names
on
them.
So
it's
not
a
new
idea
but
I
like
perhaps
developing
it
to
where
it
goes
into
the
landscape
or
something
because
I
am
absolutely
opposed
to
interrupting
the
interior
walls
of
the
well
wood
with
installing
plaques
or
something
like
that.
So
Flynn.
Do
we
need
more
discussion
on
this
I
think
there's
some
direction.
You.
B
Know,
I
think
that
the
you
as
the
board
have
given
adequate
direction
again.
This
is
a
discussion.
Item
needs
no
motion
of
the
board,
and
so
with
that,
I
will
get
back
in
touch
with
ms+
and
summarize
the
discussion
that
we've
had
here
today
and
encourage
her
to
work
with
the
library
board
to
to
see
what
are
their
options
might
be
available
and
I'll
continue
to
work
with
Jeanne.
On
that,
too,
appreciate.
K
Notification,
well,
we
have
our
first
event
for
Palm.
Springs
speaks
coming
up,
Friday
October
5th
at
7
p.m.
and
we're
bringing
in
two
big
NBC
stars:
Megan
Mullally
and
Nick
Offerman,
who
happened
to
be
married
and
they
wrote
a
book
called
the
greatest
love
story
ever
told,
and
it's
actually
really
funny.
I
read
that
I
got
an
advance
copy
of
it.
A
A
K
A
All
right
any
other
questions
of
Jeannie,
alright
Jeannie.
Thank
you
very
much
for
coming
this
morning.
Flynn,
and
thank
you
for
that.
You
that
direction!
Okay,
5b
we've
got
a
bunch
of
subcommittee
reports
and
I'd
like
to
start
with
the
2019
national
preservation
month:
symposium
Burkett,
Martian
Keyser,
dick
all
right.
E
So
this
year
we
decided
to
mix
things
up
a
bit
and
have
some
additions.
Our
subcommittee
met
in
August
and
we
talked
about
the
idea
of
having
a
creative
brainstorming
with
the
joint
organizations
or
other
organizations
in
town
that
are
architectural
and
preservation
focused.
So
we
set
up
a
meeting
which
happened
to
be
yesterday
afternoon
at
4
o'clock
and
having
the
representatives
there
and
also
new
this
year,
is
the
addition
of
the
Deborah
and
Richard
Hubbell
as
the
production
team.
E
The
idea
of
what
that
is
to
to
actually
bring
everything
together
in
a
very
cohesive
package,
starting
everything
from
the
look
of
the
website
to
the
brochure
to
the
day
of
the
event,
what
you're
seeing
on
the
screen
the
flow
it
makes
it
the
ideas
to
make
it
it's
like
polishing,
the
Apple.
So
it's
one
more
thing
to
make
the
event.
E
You
know
very,
very
special,
very
professional
this
that
he'd
be
proud
of
us,
so
we
also
had
with
us
Bob
Bogart,
who
stepped
up
to
the
plate
again
to
be
our
PR
volunteer
and
communicator,
and
he
has
such
strong
connections
in
the
city
with
everything
from
media
to
other
organizations
to
help
us
build
our
audience
and
Flynn
was
there,
of
course,
and
our
subcommittee
was
there.
So
the
idea
was
to
create
this
task
force.
E
E
There
was
there,
there
was
a
lot
of
input.
Of
course,
this
group
was
not
bashful,
which
was
really
great,
but
it
was
a
great
opportunity.
So
what
I've
done
here?
This
is
the
outline
that
we
went
through
just
so
that
you
see
it
anytime,
that
you
see
the
blue
solicit
input,
that's
particular
items
that
we
were
asking
their
input.
So
the
keynote
speaker
you
could
see.
We
had
listed
a
very
powerful
group
and
the
ideas
we
prioritized
them
as
to
who
we
would
invite,
and
of
course
you
invite
one.
E
If
that
doesn't
that
doesn't
work
out,
you
go
to
the
second
one
and
on
down
the
list
so
and
I,
particularly
just
like
to
point
out
the
first
couple:
Deborah
Burke
who's,
the
Dean
of
Yale
School
of
Architecture,
where
I
have
a
connection
with
her
and
I
came
across
from
the
Getty
and
talking
with
my
contact
there
at
the
Getty
is
doing
a
BA
house
exhibit
and
that's
the
that's.
The
theme
that
were
wanting
to
have
this
year
celebrate
it's
the
hundredth
year
of
the
Bauhaus
movement
and
they're
gonna
be
doing
one
in
2019
June.
E
So
the
the
my
contact
felt
that
very
much
the
curator
and
she
said
she
I
can
tell
you
she
is
a
dynamic
speaker.
She
is:
has
a
world
like
background
I
mean
it
really
is
amazing.
She's
European,
but
she
says
trust
me.
She
has
perfect
English
accent,
so
they're
a
very
powerful
group.
So
that's
the
idea
that
we
would
start,
you
know
start
with
one
and
then
we
would
progress
downward
and
then
we
talked
to
that
and
then
we
would
have
a
panel.
E
So
the
keynote
would
set
the
stage
as
to
talking
about
the
Bauhaus
movement
and
its
concept,
and
then
we
would
go
into
a
panel
discussion
and
we
thought
about
having
some
present-day
Palm
Springs
architects
and
maybe
some
that
we
haven't
heard
from
before
that.
As
long
as
they
in
an
interview,
there
was
determined
that
they
were
influenced
by
the
Bauhaus
movement
and,
secondly,
that
they
would
also
make
a
reference.
E
Each
of
them
would
make
a
reference
to
a
noteworthy
architect
from
the
40s
to
the
60s
that,
where
they
were
in,
you
can
see
the
influence
and
there's
some
particularly
obvious
ones.
You've
got
fray,
you've
got
annoyed
row,
II
Stewart
Williams
actually
went
over
and
spent
a
couple
of
months
over
there
studying
the
movement
in
the
30s
and
then
Sidney
Williams
would
be
the
the
moderator.
E
Then
we'd
have
a
break,
and
then
we
would
have
just
a
short
segment
as
we're
trying
to
get
everybody
come
back
in
with
a
mob
with
the
twist.
What
do
we
hate
now,
which
is
really
it's
the
light
thing
getting
people
back
into
the
room
and
then
the
luminaire
house
I
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
and
uncertainty
about
that,
and
just
talking
with
mark
last
week
at
the
CPF
workshop
planning
that
they're
very
much
still
on
board
with
the
project
and,
if
being
a
fray,
the
OP.
E
How
that
would
tie
in
to
the
whole
Bauhaus
theme
was
the
other
idea
and
then
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
segment
on
the
HSB
projects
and
accomplishments
again
sort
of
used,
Gary's
famous
lecture
that
he
said
over
the
years,
except
we
would
not
be
using
the
lost,
but
what
we've
saved
as
accomplishments,
but
I
think
we
need
to
highlight
that
just
a
short
presentation
on
our
accomplishments.
What
what
do
we?
What
have
we
done
in
this
last
year?
E
E
B
B
E
E
A
E
A
E
And
I
said
20
minutes
I
think
we
need
20
days.
So
I
think
that
would
be
very
idea
of
this
is
to
be
very
educational,
focused,
that's
the
second
day.
That's
that's
the
concept,
and
then
the
research
and
resourcing
and
the
sourcing
I
was
part
of
a
a
presentation
with
Melissa
at
the
Andy
Center
actually
last
year
and
she's
are
an
amazing
job
of
educating.
E
E
Sorry
about
that,
it
was
late
at
night
when
I
had
to
go
back
and
and
review
all
of
this
after
the
tennis
district
or
the
Tennis
Club
neighborhood
that
bill
and
I
did
so.
Then
we've
got
the
pro
Matt
McManus
Oasis
hotel,
the
importance
of
landscape
preservation
panel,
and
then
we
have
other
workshop
I
do
yep.
You
know,
as
we
know,
not
all
we
do
all
of
these
pan
out
for
different
reasons,
so
we
have
to
have
backups
so
we're
always
trying
to
do
stuff
in
our
hip
pocket
and
so
we're
we're
open
to
now.
E
A
Think
again,
you
have
done
an
amazing
job
this
this
far
out
and
putting
together
an
outline
to
put
putting
together
ideas
and
I.
Don't
know
that
whether
this
would
add
some
controversy
or
not
I
would
defer
to
you,
but
there's
a
lot
of
on
Facebook
lately
and
Mr.
Price
has
been
really
promoting
this
quite
a
bit
and
it's
the
Elif
ocation
of
the
mid-century
modern
house,
and
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
controversy
about
that.
A
E
H
E
C
J
Me
speak
to
that,
because
I'm
gonna
I'm
coordinating
the
tour
is
this
year
we're
trying
to
take
a
different
approach,
we're
trying
to
get
each
organization
to
maybe
come
up
with
their
own
tour.
For
example,
that'll
have
the
Preservation
Foundation
do
one
tour,
the
HSP
be.
Does
one
tour
and
we'll
see
how
this
goes?
J
We
could
do
anything
and
I
think
that,
because
the
like
mod
common
stuff
would
would
be
doing
the
more
mid-century
I
think
HSP
B's
focus
should
be
more
historic.
You
know
Spanish
or
whatever.
So
that's
my
concept
and
starting
to
work
with
these
people
and
we'll
see
where
this
goes.
But
everybody
was
quite
on
board
and
excited
with
him
last
night,
I
don't
know
if
this
is
going
to
be
overwhelming
to
put
together
or
are
we
going
to
have
to
all
go
out
and
beat
the
bushes
like?
We
normally
do
so
we'll
see,
I
think.
E
It's
going
to
be,
it's
really
gonna,
be
great,
he's
already
involved
with
that
process.
Other
organizations
he's
involved
with
so
it's
really
kind
of
a
natural,
so
yeah
and-
and
it
was
the
president,
we're
very
you
know
they
were
very
excited
about
the
possibility
of
doing
it
and,
of
course
we
would
also
in
the
program
that
be
listed.
You
know
it's
whatever
organizations
tour.
It
is
that's
going
to
be
also
so
noted
in
there
as
well
yeah,
so
definitely
tours
yeah.
A
Subcommittee
all
right
again,
dick
thank
you.
Carry
on
I
think
the
direction
you're
heading
is
really
strong,
really
strong,
dick
I
think
you're
up
again
on
the
ordinance
revisions
on
the
demolition.
That
subcommittee
is
dick
bill,
Lavoie
and
Todd
so
interested
to
hearing
about
this
I
think
we've
had
some
movement
already
at
the
City
Council
meeting
Flynn.
B
On
the
subcommittee
meetings,
I've
prepared
a
short
memo
for
you
here,
which
I
passed
out
earlier
this
morning.
To
you
just
a
reminder
that
the
subcommittee
was
tasked
with
two
essential
things.
Number
one
was
to
look
at
a
requirement
in
our
code
that,
prior
to
any
demolition
there
needed
to
be
an
entitlement
in
place.
So
that's
one
of
the
aspects
and
then
second,
and
probably
where
we've
spent
most
of
our
time,
is
relative
to
the
procedures
for
alteration
or
demolition
of
historic
structures.
B
We
looked
at
quite
a
number
of
different
ordinances
in
the
state
of
California
relative
to
their
demolition
and
alteration
procedures,
and
so
that
has
served
a
basis
for
the
work
that
we've
done
and
to
help
inform
us
in
terms
of
what
other
cities
are
doing.
The
probably
easiest
way
to
talk
about
what
the
committee
is
proposing
is
to
look
at
the
two
examples
that
I
have
for
you
on
the
attached
pages.
If
you
look
at
the
illustrations
on
our
current
process,
we
have
procedures
in
place
for
class,
1
structures
relative
to
alteration
or
demolition.
B
They
go
through
our
certificate
of
approval
process,
which
is
either
approved
or
denied
relative
to
our
class
two
procedures.
Our
code
is
silent.
It
doesn't
talk
about
how
we
address
alterations
or
things
like
that
to
it
in
terms
of
our
class
three
process.
As
you're
aware
class
3
is
defined
as
any
structure
built
prior
to
1969.
B
We
only
see
where
there
is
a
hundred
percent
demolition.
That's
the
only
time
that
those
items
come
forward
to
you
what
is
being
proposed
and
what
we've
talked
about
at
the
subcommittee
meetings
follows
on
the
next
page
under
the
proposed
process.
No
real
changes
to
our
class
1
process
class
2
we've
talked
about
expanding
that
to
include
what
we're
calling
structures
of
merit
and
we
are
looking
primarily
at
Santa,
Barbara
sword,
Ihnen
sin
terms
of
that
not
to
be
a
structure
of
merit.
B
B
We
have
proposed
definitions
for
both
demolition
and
alteration
that
anything
basically
resulting
in
either
50%
removal
of
the
square,
footage
of
the
structure
or
25%
alteration
to
the
street,
face
or
50%
alteration
to
the
entire
frontage
of
the
or
exterior
to
the
structure
would
require
the
HSP
be
to
review
it,
and
so
we're
greatly
expanding
the
review.
Procedures
for
HSP
be
relative
to
class
3
structures
and
then
looking
at
the
actions
you
could
review
either
alterations
or
demolitions
and
take
no
action
on
those.
B
B
As
we
look
at
certificates
of
approval,
as
we
look
at
our
designation
procedures
and
also
to
incorporate
I
think
we
had
several
months
ago,
comments
from
I
believe
Palm,
Springs,
Preservation
Foundation
about
integrity
as
being
an
important
part
of
our
class
1
designation.
So
those
are
things
that
I'd
like
to
incorporate
so
I'm
in
the
process
of
working
on
revisions
to
chapter
8.05
with
our
city
attorney
mr.
priest,
who
has
been
attending
our
subcommittee
meetings
and
been
assisting
us
with
that.
B
Our
intent
is
that
we
will
have
a
draft
revised
ordinance
to
be
reviewed
by
the
subcommittee
at
our
next
subcommittee
meeting,
which
will
take
place
between
now
and
our
October
meeting
and
then
be
able
to
have
a
draft
ordinance
for
the
HSP,
be
to
review
at
your
October
meeting.
And
so
that's
our
timeframe.
We
do
have
a
little
bit
more
work
to
do
with.
The
subcommittee
would
like
to
review
our
provisions
relative
to
violations
of
the
ordinance.
So
that's
going
to
be
one
of
the
topics
at
our
next
subcommittee
meeting.
A
B
The
seven
criteria
that
we
already
have
adopted
in
terms
of
its
architectural
character
or
association
with
individuals
who
have
had
an
important
part
in
our
community,
but
there
were
concerns
by
the
board
and
also
at
the
City
Council
level
that
in
some
ways
the
integrity
of
that
structure
had
been
compromised,
and
so
that
would
be
an
example
of
a
class
to
structure
a
structure
of
merit,
and
so
in
the
future.
The
HSB
B
would
still
be
able
to
review
alterations
to
that
structure.
B
E
D
A
E
E
Add
to
that
and
I
don't
know
that
we
can
go
anyplace
with
this
or
not,
but
I
did
want
to
share
with
the
board.
I
thought
it
was
very
interesting
at
the
meeting
the
other
night,
the
council
meeting
when,
when
I
giving
the
presentation-
and
you
gave
your
presentation
and
the
50%
came
up
and
well
and
councilmember
Roberts-
you
know
question:
are
we
really
going
to
allow
up
to
50%,
that's
like
so
that?
J
A
C
I
appreciate
those
comments,
however,
I
believe
it's
got
to
be
done
correctly
and
it's
got
to
be
done
thoroughly
and
if
it
takes
45
days,
so
be
it
if
it
takes
60
days
or
75
days,
staff
has
a
lot
on
their
plate
and
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
that
this
ordinance
is
done
correctly,
because
this
hasn't
been
changed
or
updated.
In
many
many
years,
1981.
A
B
Is
on
the
fast
track
again,
I
think
the
subcommittee
has
done
excellent
work
in
really
outlining
the
direction
that
we
want
to
go
with
this.
It's
likely
that
we
may
need
to
extend
the
45-day
moratorium
for
another
period
in
terms
of
being
able
to
have
the
city
council
subcommittee,
review
it
and
then
make
their
recommendations
as
well,
but
again
we're
trying
to
move
as
quickly
as
possible
so
that
we
don't
continue
to
hold
projects
in
limbo,
so
they
can
advance
through
the
process.
B
I've
been
having
a
back-and-forth
discussion
with
someone
who
was
supposed
to
be
on
our
agenda
today
for
a
demolition
application
and,
unfortunately,
because
of
the
moratorium,
we
were
not
able
to
consider
that
today.
So
we
do
have
a
number
of
applications
in
process
that
will
be
waiting
for
this
to
come
forward.
Okay,.
G
B
Yes,
certainly
the
standard
process
for
approval
of
amendments
to
the
city's
municipal
code
is.
It
does
take
two
readings
of
City
Council.
What
the
City
Council
will
do
is
that
they
already
have
appointed
a
subcommittee
on
demolition.
They
will
review
the
draft
that
comes
out
of
the
HSP,
be
they
will
then
go
ahead
and
forward
that
to
the
City
Council
will
have
a
public
hearing
at
City
Council
and
then,
hopefully,
two
weeks
later
at
the
second
City
Council
meeting
they'll
be
able
to
adopt
at
that
point
in
time.
I
B
I
A
E
Tennis
Club
historic
district,
the
bill
and
I
met
last
night
with
the
board
of
the
Tennis
Club
neighborhood.
It
was
an
excellent
meeting.
I
thought
lots
and
lots
of
questions,
but
very
positive
questions
and
I
got
a
very
positive
board
as
well,
who
was
very,
very
interested
just
briefly
on
ago.
Let
bill
address
most
of
this.
We
covered
the
purpose,
the
benefits
in
the
process
of
historic
district.
E
We
utilized
the
handout
that
can
Lyon
given
us
on
the
frequently
asked
questions
and
we
covered
those
like
what
is
on
historic
district.
What
are
some
of
the
benefits?
How
do
areas
become
historic
districts?
How
are
the
property
owners,
opinions
and
preferences
taken
to
account
and
if
a
parcel
is
designated
in
a
historic
district,
how
will
my?
How
would
the
property
be
affected,
so
I'm
gonna?
Let
bill
sort
of
kick
in
from
there
as
to
any
other
input
that
you've
got
it's
important.
H
Can
we
still
appeal
to
the
city
to
do
you
know
to
prevent
buzz
from
going
through
our
neighbor
and
I
said
no,
no
effect
at
all.
It's
not
our
concern.
It's
your
concern!
Yes,
you
still,
you
sell
the
power
to
be
a
political
group
and
and
advocate
for
all
the
things
you
have
and
will
advocate
for
so
they
they
seem
to.
You
know
they
pondered
that
and
and
talked
about
what
it
it's
up
for
them
to
decide
what
it
is
about,
their
neighborhood.
H
E
What
came
up
is
that
their
next
annual
homeowners
meeting
just
happens
to
be
in
November,
so
we
suggested
to
them
that
this
would
be
an
opportunity
for
bill
and
myself
to
go
back
because
there's
gonna
be
lots
of
questions
coming
up
at
that
annual
and
annual
meeting,
but
I
think
the
timing.
As
far
as
moving
this
forward,
that's
very
positive
to
get
then
that
reaction
and
that's
the
net
I
think
that's
the
next
step
that
we
would
probably
go
right
anyway
with
it.
So
we
were
encouraged
yeah.
A
I
have
a
question:
how
many
people
did
you
meet
with.
E
H
E
A
E
A
Know,
listen,
listen,
I,
think
this
is
an
it's
an
excellent
report.
You
know
this
is
near
and
dear
to
my
heart,
incidentally,
or
coincidentally,
I
got
a
call
yesterday
from
someone
associated
with
the
Women's
Club.
They
want
to
pursue
class
one
again.
You
know
they
had
tried
it
a
few
years
ago
and
the
board
shot
it
down,
but
she
told
me
that
there's
a
new
board
and
a
new
president
and
a
new
energy,
and
so
we
might
be
hearing
about
that
at
some
point
too.
A
H
A
All
right
all
right
anything
else
on
the
Tennis,
Club
historic
district.
All
right!
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
Next
item.
Well
with
Murray
Memorial,
Memorial
Library,
that's
John's,
Burkett
and
Dickson.
I'll
start
the
conversation
if
I
might
so
Linda
and
dick
and
I
did
meet
with
Jeannie
and
Ron
Willison,
and
a
gentleman
from
the
city
Flint
he's
no
longer
with
us
now.
A
A
C
C
One
of
the
things
that
I
remember
that
stuck
out
was
I
felt
that
the
representatives
there
were
speaking
of
their
personal
feelings
rather
than
the
feelings
of
the
board,
because
when
we
would
ask
a
question
about
the
board,
well,
we
kind
of
got
an
iffy
reply,
so
I
think
it'll
be
interesting.
We
have
some
I
feel
we
have
some
really
good
suggestions.
The
thing
that
was
disturbing
to
me
was
I
thought.
The
report
that
we
got
from
Steve
Kalan
was
excellent,
with
some
great
ideas
and
my
impression
was
they
read
through
it
and
yep?
C
E
E
Thank
you
for
yeah
for
taking
a
look
at
this
and
in
the
meantime,
particularly
with
the
furniture,
was
a
big
concern
of
ours.
So
we
started
doing
research
on
through
the
Historical
Society,
particularly
with
buildings
of
that
era,
in
Palm
Springs
as
to
what
was
in
the
outdoor
public
spaces,
hotels
and
any
other
public
spaces,
and
so
we
worked
through
this
get.
What
I
want
to
do
is
get
a
benchmarks,
and
then
we
could
go
to
different
vendors
and
see
what
we
could
find
that
we
thought
was
appropriate.
E
So
then,
in
that
process
also
got
back
with
Steve
Kalan
about
from
things
that
we
found,
and
then
he
came
back
with
a
great
point
of
reference,
I
thought,
which
was
actually
the
Union
Station
in
LA
in
the
Park
area,
and
comparing
that
back
again
with
what
original
photos
that
we
had
of
the
well
would
Murray
library
that
there
was
a
simple.
There
was
a
compatibility
equation
that
we
could
see.
E
So
then,
what
we,
what
we're
doing
is
we're
taking
those
recommendations
and
I
got
some
input
from
bill,
and
then
we
we
would
put
those
into
I'm
going
to
put
those
into
a
Kim
Lyon
who's,
going
to
do
a
staff
report
to
go
to
the
AAC
for
for
review
so
that
we
can
so
that
we
can.
Hopefully
you
know
they
see
other.
You
know
where
we're
coming
from
as
as
well
and
I
know.
Ken's
gonna
put
together
an
excellent
staff
report
for
that
so
and
should
be
coming
up
in
October.
E
A
To
further
a
Dick's
point,
Union
Station
we're
probably
mostly
familiar
with
Union
Station
in
downtown
Los
Angeles.
It's
also
1939,
so
it
is
almost
identical
timeframe
and
the
park
surrounding
Union
Station
has
a
classic
bench.
You'd,
probably
all
recognize
it.
If
you
saw
it,
it
just
seems
like
the
right
solution
or
a
right
alternative.
A
One
of
the
one
of
the
concepts
at
the
meeting
was
to
the
that
the
courtyard
of
the
well
would
Marie
be
finished
out.
Similarly
to
the
new
downtown
across
the
street,
with
the
paving
system
just
coming
across
the
street,
and
wrapping
around
the
well
would
and
the
seating
and
all-
and
we
were
quite
insistent
that
note
that
this
should
have
a
sharp
line
of
demarcation.
A
Alright,
so
thank
you
very
much
on
that
any
questions
or
no
on
the
well
would
Marie.
Alright
next
item
is
the
laplacian,
and
this
is
Lavoie
Burkett
and
marsh.
H
B
We
don't
have
anything
very
part
on
that.
Gensler
is
doing
a
study
of
the
building
they're
in
process
on
that
and
I.
Don't
have
a
report
back
from
mr.
fuller
who
is
managing
that
process.
Again,
we
will
keep
the
subcommittee
in
mind
when
we're
ready
to
look
at
that
study
and
go
forward
with
that.
So
we'll
schedule
something
as
soon
as
we're
ready
to
do
so.
All.
A
Right
well,
thank
you
for
that.
B
A
B
A
A
J
Exactly
is
the
signage:
is
it
HSP
B
or
does
it
say,
Historic
Site,
Preservation
Board?
One
of
the
issues
that
we
discussed
last
night
with
the
many
groups
together
is
the
confusion
of
the
name
of
the
groups.
We
all
use
these
monikers
like
mod
comm.
You
know
all
the
other
ones
and
nobody
knows
what
they
really
stand
for,
and
so
one
of
the
things
in
identifying
the
different
organizations
is
to
tell
more
what
you
do
where
the
Historic
Site
preservation
board.
J
B
J
A
A
You
know
the
that
everything
gets
Historical
Society
board
modern
Committee.
There
is
a
real
just
mangling
of
it
all
and
how
because
we
have,
as
dick
pointed
out
for
a
small
town,
we've
got
four
strong
preservation
organizations,
and
so
how
do
we
differentiate
them?
They're
all
familiar
to
us.
Montcalm
HSP
be
Historical
Society,
but
how
do
we
differentiate
them
to
the
poet's?
So
does
the
our
booth
I
think
it
says
the
City
of
Palms
free.
G
A
C
B
Correct
the
Cameron
project
or
development
which
has
stalled,
does
have
a
requirement
under
their
subdivision
improvement
agreement
to
complete
the
Palm
Canyon
street
improvements
to
do
a
portion
of
the
Mesquite
improvements
and
they've
also
been
required
to
do
temporary
landscaping
around
the
site.
The
removal
that
you
see
now
those
palm
trees
will
be
replaced,
the
sidewalk
will
be
widened,
lights
will
go
in,
there
will
be
a
median
and
the
traffic
light
at
the
intersection
will
also
be
replaced.
Do.
C
B
C
C
B
B
B
I,
don't
know
I,
know,
I,
know
it's,
you
know
other
than
they
were
being
moved
in
terms
of
their
position
to
widen
the
sidewalk
and
to
complete
some
of
those
other
streetscape
improvements.
I,
don't
know,
if
is
that
they
would
have
been
too
damaged
in
that
process
to
be
added
or
not,
or
just
the
difficulty
I
again,
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't.
A
C
C
H
C
Mean
I
think
that's
so
important
to
this
community
and
you're
right.
People
were
really
up
in
arms
about
those
trees
being
removed,
I
didn't
realize
they
were
cut,
I
mean
I
had
a
feeling,
but
I
thought
I
got
the
impression
that
they
were
removed
and
they're.
Those
with
Chur
trees
were
gonna,
be
really.
B
A
A
A
First
Flynn
and
I
just
this
is
just
a
to
bring
to
the
board's
attention
and
perhaps
the
city's
attention.
Maybe
it
was
June
or
July.
We
had
a
gentleman
from
the
Mesa
homeowners
association
come
and
raised
concerns
about
the
Mesa
gate
house,
and
we
had
that
conversation
and
you
explained
to
us
that
it
is
in
the
public's
right-of-way.
It
actually
belongs
to
the
city,
it's
on
city's
property
and
that
it
was
it
was
safe
from
the
project
and
I
have
no
reason
to
disagree
with
you.
A
However,
I
live
down
there
and
I
passed
there
daily
and
when
the
construction
fencing
went
up
for
the
new
housing
project,
it
excluded
the
gatehouse
a
few
days
ago,
actually
last
Thursday
that
fencing
was
taken
down
and
now
includes
the
gatehouse.
So
it
just
sent
some
concern
to
me
that
first
it
was
excluded
and
now
it
seems
to
be
included.
Do
you
have
anything
on
that?
Certainly,
let
me
talk
about
that.
B
In
writing.
The
conditions
for
the
protection
of
the
gate
house
I
had
indicated
that
a
a
offense
and
dust
control
needed
provided
at
the
construction
site
and
I
didn't
specify
that
it
needed
to
be
around
the
gate.
Houses
well-protected,
so
I
had
to
go
back
to
the
building
and
Safety
Department
and
clarify
exactly
what
I
wanted
them
to
do.
I
think
I
did
have
Ken
Lyon
document
the
house
with
photos
the
gatehouse
with
photos
prior
to
the
start
of
construction.
B
We'll
do
that
again
at
the
end
of
construction
and
verify
that
there
has
been
any
damage
to
the
structure.
But
again
the
intent
was
that
there
be
a
fence
around
the
gatehouse
itself
to
protect
it
from
construction
going
on
on
the
site
and
any
construction
of
the
street.
That
curve
and
gutter,
and
things
like
that
and.
A
Right
all
right,
thank
you
for
that
one.
My
next
item
here
that
I'd
like
to
chat
about
is
the
Oasis
building.
This
board
approved
the
Japanese
restaurant
that
went
in
there
three
years
ago.
Four
years
ago,
the
gentleman
came
here.
He
did
a
lovely
presentation.
We
approved
a
lot
of
exterior
tenant
improvements
that
none
of
them
touched
the
building,
and
we
were
all
very
good
about
that
and
I
think
the
Planning
Commission
in
the
AAC
was
very
good
about.
A
A
Unfortunately,
it
was
at
one
of
my
favorites
and
they
are
gone
and
we
are
left
with
all
of
those
tenant
improvements
and
so
I'm
wondering
if
looking
forward
and
I
would
like
you
to
kind
of-
hopefully
remember
this
in
a
year
from
now
or
whenever
it
might
be
and
you're
all
still
sitting
here
when
we
approve
tenant
improvements
to
a
class-one
historic
site.
Is
there
a
way
to
condition
that,
if
that
business
fails
that
they
have
to
remove
those
tenant
improvements
and
put
the
class
one
building
back
the
way
they
found
it.
B
Yes,
I
would
say
absolutely
as
you're
reviewing
a
certificate
of
approval.
You
can't
include
conditions
with
that
in
terms
of
the
removal
and
I
think
that's
a
reasonable
idea
to
have
those
s
conditions
of
approval.
So
that's
something
that
we
can
do
as
we
move
forward
and
I
need
other
tenant
improvements.
A
B
B
B
A
A
You
remember,
council
member
Roberts
came
to
us
with
a
sample
of
the
wood
and
deke.
You
might
agree,
I
think
we
were
sitting
next
to
each
other
it
just
it's
such
a
terrific
improvement.
It's
been
lowered,
it's
a
much
cleaner
feeling,
so
kudos
to
the
board
kudos
to
the
city.
I
think
the
City
Council
Chambers
is
is
fantastic.
Looking
it
looked
good
on
television,
it
looks
good
in
person
and
the
city
seal
is
in
a
very
prominent
place
in
the
in
the
in
the
council
chambers
now
so
good
work
on
all
of
that.
A
Another
item
that
I
wanted
to
mention
is
last
week
last
Friday
morning
was
I
think
a
milestone
day
in
Palm
Springs.
The
scaffolding
went
up
on
the
Town
&
Country
Center,
for
the
repainting
of
that
building.
On
the
exact
same
day,
the
construction
fencing
went
up
around
the
Kornelia
White
House.
We
should
be
patting
ourselves
on
the
back,
especially
on
the
Cornelia
white
house.
A
We
have
been
tenacious
for
the
five
years
that
I've
been
on
this
board
to
get
the
city
to
take
action
and
it
went
through
the
processes
and
some
fits
and
starts,
but
it's
now
underway
I
was
it
just
by
timing.
The
mayor's
City,
the
State
of
the
City
address
the
day
before
the
you
didn't
write
his
speech,
the
words
preservation
from
our
preservation,
they're,
the
words
preservation,
never
came
out
of
his
mouth.
There
was
no
recognition
of
preservation
on
the
eve
of
two
major
preservation
projects.
A
One
city
owned
the
connealy
White
House,
so
I
intend
to
go
to
the
next
city
council
meeting
and
in
public
comments.
Commend
them
laud
them
for
missing
this
day.
Last
Thursday,
when
it
couldn't
have
happened
five
years
ago,
it
wouldn't
have
happened
five
years
ago.
Look
how
long
we've
been
fighting
for
the
Talon
country
center.
Now
we
haven't
gotten
everything
we
want,
but
we're
getting
a
paint
job
we're
making
progress
on
it.
A
A
All
of
that,
that's
that
my
next
item
is
and
I'm
glad
that
it
is
a
subcommittee
report
here
and
it's
the
la
plaza
theater
I,
think
that
as
I
depart
this
board-
and
you
all
remain
here-
I
hope
that
you
will
and
I
know.
I
know
it's
here.
As
we
have
accomplished,
the
Cornelia
white
house
and
I
feel
very
good
about
that
project
being
under
way.
A
We
as
a
board
have
an
obligation
to
turn
our
focus:
a
real
laser
focus
to
the
laplacian.
It's
a
city
owned
building.
We
are
a
city
authorized
board
and
we
have
to
do
what
we've
done
for
five
years
on
Cornelia
white
house
to
turn
the
attention
to
La
Plaza.
We
know
there's
a
subcommittee,
we
know
the
Gensler
is
working
on.
It
I
think
that,
as
we
often
did
with
the
Cornelia
white
house,
we
asked
for
monthly
updates
it
kept
it
on
the
table.
It
kept
our
audience
at
home,
hearing
the
words
so
Flynn.
A
If
it's
I'd
like
to
agenda
what
did
I
just
say:
'la
Plaza
theater.
Thank
you,
the
La
Plaza
theater
as
a
ongoing
agenda
item.
So
at
least
it's
a
discussion
each
month
and
from
time
to
time,
you'll
have
reports
for
the
board,
and
sometimes
you
won't,
but
when,
when
Gensler
is
something
ready
and
when
the
subcommittee
has
something
ready,
we
want
to
be
supportive
of
it.
We
want
to
keep
it
in
the
public
eye,
because
that
should
be
I.
Think
our
next
focus
so.
G
La
Paz
a
theater
I
recently
read
something
about
Gensler,
&,
Associates,
obviously
being
the
lead
architect
and
Robert
shadow
is
a
historic
preservation
consultant
on
the
project.
It
would
behoove
us
to
have
an
informational
presentation
from
them
about
where
they
are
in
the
front
in
the
process.
So
I,
you
know
I,
don't
you
know
there
are
definitely
contact
people
that
we
should
address
to.
Let
HSB
be
be
involved
in
the
loop,
because
I
feel
like
we're
not
in
the
loop
now
well.
A
In
Vincent
to
that
point,
when
I
think
Gensler
has
been
a
been
working
on
this
for
a
few
months,
yeah
there's
a
few
months.
So
as
we
talked
about
progress
reports,
people
love
the
progress
report.
Perhaps
we
can
get
a
progress
report
from
Gensler
where
they
are
in
the
process
and
I
think
that
would
be
be
helpful.
So
we'll.
E
E
A
E
That
would
be
a
good
time
to
do
that
as
well.
I,
just
like
to
add
to
what
Carrie
was
saying
about
two
wonderful
things
that
happened
last
week,
it
was
a
great
week
for
preservation
in
Palm
Springs,
but
also
that
week
as
I
was
sitting
there
at
that
City
Council
meeting
and
seeing
that
they
had
brought
up
the
demo
ordinance
actually
on
their
agenda.
That's
actually
three
things
that
actually
that
happened
all
last
week
at
this.
E
E
B
Typically,
we
don't
require
those
items
to
come
back
before
the
historic
site,
Preservation
Board
and
in
this
case
of
the
Dell
Marcos
I,
believe
that's
what
it
was.
Ken
was
the
staff
member
who
has
reviewed
those
improvements
and
a
recommended
approval
of
them
when
there
are
significant
alterations.
You
as
you're
aware
we
will
bring
those
to
the
historic
site
preservation
board
for
a
certificate
of
approval,
so.
B
E
That's
helpful
to
know
what
you
know
when
those
exceptions
are
are
being
made
in
what's
not
coming,
but
it's
not
coming
back
to
us
also
I,
just
like
to
say
on
the
Town
and
Country
besides,
paintjob
they're
also
doing
stucco
work
repair,
and
that
was
one
of
our
concerns.
I
think
bill.
Mr.
Boyd
brought
that
up,
and
so
that
is
also
being
addressed
as
as
well.
So
that's
a
that's!
That's
a
real,
plus
and
I
think
there
might
be
other
things
coming
up
the
Town
and
Country
very
shortly
so
anyway.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
B
Depends
on
whether
or
not
it
impacts
the
historic
resource
and
what
we've
identified
as
being
the
characteristics
of
the
structure,
generally
anything
that
they're
doing
to
the
exterior
of
the
building.
We
want
to
bring
those
to
you
to
make
sure
that
it
doesn't
impact
the
historic
resource,
for
example
the
fencing
and
things
like
that.
Typically,
we
would
want
to
bring
those
things
to
you
things
where
they're
doing
interior
improvements.
No,
we
wouldn't
bring
those
to
you,
but
anything
on
the
exterior,
but
really.
B
We
have
an
approved
sign
plan
for
the
Oasis
building
if
it's
consistent
with
the
sign
plan,
we'll
approve
that
at
a
staff
level,
if
it's
anything
different
than
what
the
sign
plan
allows,
then
no
that
will
need
to
come
back
before
the
historic
site
preservation
board.
You
have
already
approved
design
program
for
the
building,
so
anything
that's
consistent
with
that
is
still
appropriate.
So.
B
I
B
I
B
A
A
E
B
B
E
What
we
really
heard
wasn't
so
much
about
probably
coming
to
planning.
It
was
more
I
think
from
an
economic
standpoint,
with
the
way
that
I
gathered
in
the
conversation
last
night,
so
in
other
words,
they've
got
until
November,
such-and-such
and
and
then
what
happens.
If
so,
then
the
permit
roof
dies.
Then
what
happens
at
that
point?
If.
B
The
extension
of
time
is
not
approved,
then,
essentially
the
project
dies
and
they
would
have
to
refile
applications
for
a
new
project.
However,
if
the
extension
of
time
is
approved,
then
they
have
an
additional
timeframe
to
submit
building
permits
and
get
started
with
the
approved
plans.
If
they
choose
to
modify
the
project,
then
those
modifications
would
need
to
come
back
in
for
HSP,
be
a
AC
planning
commission
and
go
through
the
process.
All
right
modifications
to
approve
plans.
Okay,
two.
A
B
A
A
It
was
a
very
unstructured
kind
of
parking
area
where
you
have
sort
of
pulled
up
off
the
road.
It
was
undefined
and
now,
of
course
it
is
corporate
defined
I
mean
it
is
curved
and
guttered
and
walled
and
curbed
and
I.
It
appears
to
me
that
they
picked
up
quite
a
bit
of
parking,
which
I,
don't
think,
is
a
bad
thing
and
again
it
is
on
the
side
of
the
building.
A
It
does
not
impact
the
the
front
elevation
of
the
building,
which
I
think
is
where
the
most
characteristically
defining
architecture
of
it
is
so
I
called
right
away.
When
I
saw
that
project
and
know
it
was
fully
permitted
and
I
think
it
turned
out,
it
turned
out.
Well,
it
turned
out
well,
so
it's
an
improvement
to
the
parking
situation
and
I
don't
think
it
is.
It
is
detrimental
to
the
character
of
the
building.
B
In
consideration
of
the
time,
I'll
be
brief.
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
heads
up
that
Leo
Marmol
on
behalf
of
the
owner
of
the
Town
&
Country
met
with
me
and
the
City
Council
subcommittee
members
about
the
master
plan
and
restoration
of
the
Town
&
Country
centre.
They
are
going
to
be
doing
some
public
outreach,
so
they'll
be
meeting
with
some
of
our
preservation
organizations
here,
but
do
expect
that
to
be
coming
before
you
here
within
the
next
couple
of
months.
B
B
So
we
are
monitoring
that
closely
and
again,
we
are
working
on
the
ordinance
to
have
that
before
you
here
in
October,
I'm,
not
sure
if
I
announced
this
at
a
previous
historic
site
preservation
board
meeting,
but
the
City
Council
in
our
2018-2019
fiscal
year
budget
included
an
additional
position
with
the
emphasis
on
that
position
to
be
historic
preservation
matters
so
I'll
be
having
an
additional
staff
person.
We
are
conducting
interviews.
I
B
A
C
A
That
I
have
for
this
okay,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
we
are
adjourned
until
the
October,
9th
2018
meeting.
Thank
you
all
very,
very
much.