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A
C
C
B
Yes,
mr
chair
and
committee
members,
the
agenda
was
posted
on
thursday
august
25th,
and
our
meeting
has
been
posted
in
accordance
with
state
law.
D
A
Right:
okay,
we'll
move
along
this
is
a
public
meeting
audience
members
are
permitted
to
comment
on
any
issue.
That's
within
this
committee's
purview
comments
on
an
item
appearing
on
today's
agenda
are
made
at
the
time
that
that
item
is
presented.
If
anybody
would
like
to
speak
on
an
item
not
on
today's
agenda,
he
may
speak
down.
You'd
have
three
minutes.
A
It
doesn't
look
like
we
have
any
we'll
proceed
to
the
minutes
of
the
last
meeting.
Does
anybody
have
any
changes
or
revisions
to
those
minutes.
A
B
B
We
have
we
have
first
and
the
second
remember
rottman,.
B
See
none
we'll
have
for
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
all
right.
Any
opposed
motion
passes.
Thank
you.
E
B
Okay
passes:
now
we
can
move
on
to
the
consent,
calendar,
congratulations,
chair,
jakeway
again
and
vice
chair
rottman.
A
B
A
Right:
okay,
I'm
getting
ahead
of
myself
on
the
consent
to
canada.
Calendar
will
be
the
approval
of
those
minutes
and
also
item
2b
o2
architecture
on
behalf
of
dania
ning,
for
a
major
architectural
application
to
construct
a
3151
square
foot
single
family
residence
on
a
9147
square
foot,
hillside
parcel
located
at
775,
cabrillo
road
and
the
staff
has
recommended
approval
of
that
project.
So
those
are
the
two
items
in
the
consent
calendar.
Do
we
have
a
motion
to
accept
the
consent?
Calendar
hold.
H
A
A
F
I
I
Maybe
go:
this
is
a
returning
project.
Excuse
me
returning
project
from
the
july
19th
air
sea
meeting,
and
this
is
a
hillside
law
in
the
mesa.
Neighborhood
and
the
project
site
is
adjacent
to
vacant
lot
and
the
planning
services
has
received
an
application
for
the
construction
of
the
json
law
as
well,
but
just
wanted
to
go
over
the
site
location
just
to
go
over
the
quick
history
of
this
particular
project.
I
The
project
was
initially
reviewed
by
the
air
aac
at
the
time
on
june
7th
and
at
the
time
the
committee
voted
for
the
item
to
be
continued
for
further
study
and
the
division
was
reviewed
on
july
19th
and
at
the
time
the
arc
voted
the
project
to
be
continued
and
then
also
the
committee
provided
comments.
Since
then,
african
has
revised
the
plan,
and
this
is
the
third
vb
by
the
arc
just
to
give
a
comparison
of
what
was
previously
reviewed
and
what's
being
devised.
I
The
size
of
the
proposed
residence
has
been
increased
slightly
from
3532
square
feet
to
now.
Four
thousand
and
fifty
one
square
feet.
So
is
the
the
low
coverage
the
previously
proposed
twenty
three
point:
three
percent
to
now:
it's
twenty
six
point:
seven
percent,
the
building
height,
is
also
increased
and
africans
proposing
an
increased
front
yard
setback
compared
to
the
previous
5.3
feet.
The
division
now
proposes
a
10
feet.
I
I
I
I
I
The
previous
project
proposed
a
building
massing
which
directly
project
over
the
sloped
hillside
area,
whereas
the
division
proposes
the
use
of
pilots
or
structures
for
the
support
for
the
rear
portion
of
the
residence,
and
that
is
a
proposed
landscape
design.
Probably
the
most
notable
change
is
the
treatment
of
the
front.
I
I
The
equipment
will
be
now
placed
in
the
designated
area
between
the
garage
and
the
wall.
To
prevent
the
noise
prevention
and
then
also
the
dark
work,
the
opportunity
can
provided
that
it's
going
to
be
installed
in
the
open
cloud
space
and
the
bedroom
and.
I
The
division
proposes
an
installation
of
a
two
desert,
perverted
museum,
but
no
other
landscape.
Planting
materials
are
proposed
in
the
area
between
the
front
property
line
and
the
edge
of
the
pavement.
The
african
also
provided
a
drainage
plant,
as
well
as
a
cotton
field,
calculations
and
a
hydrology
report.
I
The
materials
that
were
included
in
the
packet
did
not
reflect
the
most
current
site
information.
Aside
from
more
specifically,
however,
the
african
submitted
a
revised
drainage
plan
which
was
40
to
the
air
sea
today
and,
as
you
may
or
may
not
be
aware,
this
engineering
information
will
be
reviewed
by
the
planning
commission
prior
to
the
funding
commission
meeting.
Our
engineering
division
will
conduct
internal
credentialing
with
you,
based
on
the
revision.
I
The
staff
finds
that
the
previously
proposed
5.3
footprint
setback
and
the
5.15
foot
east
side
setback
has
been
having
increased
and
then
also
the
project
proposes
minor
architectural
projections
into
the
the
saudi
and
setback
area,
but
they
are
still
within
the
40-inch
maximum
allowable
projection,
stipulating
a
zoning
code
and
the
compilers
and
will
be
installed
in
appropriate
area
and
revised
elevations,
a
bit
more
detailed
architectural
treatment
and
a
landscape.
I
The
first
one
is
to
install
additional
crap
materials
in
the
area
between
the
front
property
line
and
edge
of
the
street
pavement
and
depict
all
proposed
raw
materials
of
the
maturity
on
the
landscape
plan,
and
the
second
condition
is
to
reduce
the
height
of
the
rear
portion
of
the
proposed
residence
by
two
feet.
This
concludes
the
staff,
presentation
and
african
is
here
as
well.
If
you
have
any
questions,
thank
you.
F
If
not
we'll
go
to
the
applicant
and
ask
them
to
make
a
presentation
they
have
10
minutes
is
the
applicant
here.
J
Yes,
I
will
keep
it
breathe
brief,
since
this
is
the
the
third
time
we're
we're
meeting
with
you,
but
at
the
last
hearing,
some
of
the
most
notable
comments
were
sort
of
lack
of
information
in
the
plants.
Additionally,
there
were
some
comments
about
the
drainage
and
grading
information
and,
furthermore,
there
was
concern
about
the
building
relating
to
the
hillside
appropriately,
as
well
as
some
issues
with
mechanical
and
ducts
and
and
equipment
and
where
they
were
being
stored.
So
what
we
tried
to
focus
on
on
this
presentation,
we're
addressing
those
comments.
J
Additionally,
we
studied
the
surrounding
neighborhood
and
looked
at
the
existing
front,
setbacks
that
exist
along
the
street
for
the
garages,
as
well
as
the
houses
and
that
diagram
is,
is
presented
there
and
and
so
what
we're.
What
we're
proposing
here
is
a
10-foot
front
setback
for
the
garage
which
is,
as
noriko
mentioned,
greater
than
we
presented
at
the
last
one
and
consistent
with
the
neighborhood
findings
additionally
help
and
and
also
prevents
the
need
for
for
a
variance.
J
J
That's
why
you
see
the
the
difference
in
the
landscaping,
so
I
think
at
at
this
point
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
We
last
last
comment.
We
proposed
a
diagram
that
shows
the
30
or
greater
slope
on
the
site
and
how
the
building
design
works
to
minimize
and
avoid
grading
along
that
portion
of
the
of
the
site.
J
F
Okay,
thank
you.
Does
the
committee
david,
do
I
go
to
committee
questions
and
then
public
or
yes,
okay?
Does
the
committee
have
any
questions
for
the
applicant.
G
J
Well,
part
of
it
was
after
studying
the
the
topography
and
looking
at
the
30
slope,
there's
only
so
far.
We
can
go
down
while
still
being
far
enough
removed
from
the
rear
property
line
and
also
being
far
enough
removed
from
the
front
property
line
with
with
the
garage.
So
that's
sort
of
where
we
found
the
right
balance.
I
think
we
can
still
go
down
a
couple
of
feet,
but
we
start
to
get
right
at
that
border
line
of
of
the
30
or
greater
slope.
J
G
J
G
C
G
G
All
right,
I
do
all
right.
I
noticed
that
you
added
shading
on
okay,
it's
bedroom,
number,
two's
east
side
correct.
Is
that
a
trellis
extension
of
some
sort?
That's
a
trellis
yeah,
okay,
but
yet
I
I'm
looking
at
the
kitchen
on
in
that
same
elevation
as
I
go
down
in
that
direction.
Is
there
no
there's
no
shading
on
that
glass
right.
J
So
if
you
go
to
the
site,
there
you'll
know
that
there's
a
pretty
densely
vegetated
select
for
a
better
word
kind
of
a
forest.
There's
a
bunch
of
trees.
There
palm
trees
that
provide
a
lot
of
shading
there
in
the
early
morning.
So
there's
going
to
be
only
a
couple
hours
of
direct
light
into
that
kitchen.
J
G
J
G
J
There,
no
that,
but
just
to
clarify
the
pool
equipment
is
not
below
anything
it's
at
grade,
but
it's
below
the
top
of
garage
wall
and
below
the
courtyard
wall.
So
it's
a
very
limited.
It's
exposed
to
the
sky,
but
it
would
be
very
hard
to
see.
You'd
have
to
be
standing
on
the
roof
of
the
garage,
probably
looking
straight
down.
G
J
If
you
look
at
the
mechanical
plan,
it
runs
in
the
crawl
space
to
the
let's
call.
It
there's
a
there's,
a
mechanical
room
there
that
it
goes
up
into
the
house
and
then
it
ducts
through
the
ceiling
joists
over
to
the
other
bedroom
and
into
the
two
bedrooms.
So
there's
no
there's
no
ducting
below
the
floor
along
the
north
side
of
the
house.
D
One
committee:
yes,
the
on
the
landscape
plan.
You
call
out
sandy
decomposed
granite
with
the
color
tan
and
that's
clearly
shown
then
there's
a
specification
of
one
to
two
inch
gravel.
What
is
you
have?
No
color
or
any
other
specification
beyond
that.
J
D
J
Well,
so,
if
you
remember
in
our
previous
proposals,
we
looked
at
doing
much
more
in
terms
of
landscaping,
we
got
constant
feedback
from
the
city
to
basically
try
to
stay
as
natural
to
the
hillside
as
possible
to
try
to
keep
it
looking
consistent.
So
we've
stripped
it
back
and
tried
to
keep
it
in
that
vein.
D
J
D
Yeah,
I'm
just
trying
to
get
clarification
as
to
you
know
what
is
what's
going
on
there
and
also
east
side
of
the
driveway
okay.
Thank
you.
B
Mr
mr
chair,
I
just
would
also
note
that
we
did
receive,
I
think,
four
emails
that
were
afforded
to
the
arc
so
for
the
benefit
of
the
public,
for
the
people
who
did
send
staff
an
email
that
that
information
was
forwarded
to
all
committee
members.
F
Okay,
who
would
like
to
go
first.
H
H
H
F
Thank
you
remember
lock
here.
E
E
The
roof,
because
one
of
the
neighbors
is
a
few
of
them-
are
they're
wondering
about
the
views
there
and
and
part
of
me,
don't
doesn't
really
see
the
issue,
but
the
other
part
of
me
feels
like
well.
I
do
wonder
what
the
material
is
going
to
be,
or
the
finish
is
on
the
overall
roof,
and
is
that
something
clean
and
appealing
for
looking
down
on
that
in
a
hillside
neighborhood?
So
I
guess
I
have
those
two
questions.
J
So
the
the
roofing
membrane
would
be
a
single
ply,
tpo
roofing
membrane.
As
you
know,
you
know
we're
kind
of
limited
in
terms
of
our
colors
that
are
compliant
with
california,
so
it
will
be.
You
know
a
tan
or
a
light
gray,
we'll
try
to
stay
away
from
the
white
just
because
that
gets
a
little
bright,
but
we're
very
limited
and
our
hands
are
tied
in
terms
of
the
colors
that
we
can
use
in.
E
E
J
J
Yeah
we
have
no
problem
with
that.
There
was
comments
during
submittal
about
this.
I
don't
remember
that
the
term
noriko
mentioned,
but
somehow
preventing
glare
from
the
the
properties
that
are
higher
up.
So
we
raise
the
parapet,
we're
open
to
bringing
that
down
we're
not
bound
by
that
height.
E
What's
the
height
of
the
ceiling
in
the
garage,
I'm
sorry,
your
ceiling
height
in
the
garage.
E
J
No,
the
the
roof,
the
portion
I
was
speaking
to
was
the
northerly
portion
of
massing,
I
think,
is,
is
the
recommended
change
by
the
planner,
but
I
mean
certainly
open
to
dropping
the
garage.
J
E
E
Stuck
yet
okay,
we
just
one
more
question
so
on
the
north
elevation,
the
looking
at
the
peers
and
john
walsh
had
asked
about
mechanical
equipment
or
ducting.
Would
you
say
there'll
be
none
underneath
there,
but
I
think
you're.
Your
civil
calculations
mention
a
6
000
gallon
storm
water
retention
above
ground,
underneath
that.
J
E
J
Yeah
this
must
this
must
be
an
on
previous
note.
But
if
you
look
at,
I
believe
noriko
sent
the
revised
drainage
plans
to
everyone.
The
detail
there
shows
for
a
infiltration
pit
that's
below
grade,
so
there
will
be
no
above
grade
tank
if
we
can
avoid
it.
E
My
question
is
still
going
to
stand
on
that
north
elevation
and
you
know
I
see
it
on
your
sections.
Also
the
the
difference
in
elevation
between
grade
in
some
places
like,
for
instance,
c3
sheet
c3
towards
the
beginning.
There
there's
a
20-foot
kind
of
daylight
line
of
those
piers
daylight
height,
so
finish
grade
475.
E
So
I'm
still,
I
guess
where
I
was
going
with.
That
is
if
there
is
a
sort
of
retention
tank.
E
Kind
of
as
an
aside
from
that
whether
there
is
or
is
not
go
back
to
the
landscape.
That
seems
a
little
light
on
that,
like
north
side,
if
just
all
that
exposed
down
there.
J
Yeah
again,
we've,
I
think
you,
you
missed
the
first
presentation.
We
had
a
lot
of
ground
cover
proposed.
We
had
more
trees,
they've
all
been
commented
by
either
planning
staff
or
arc
members
as
not
necessarily
work
being
natural
to
the
landscape
and
working
with
the
landscape.
We're
happy
to
put
some
more
landscaping
in
to
kind
of
work
with
that,
just
to
keep
it
from
sort
of
appearing
barren
or
the
infiltration
pit
looking
out
of
place,
but
we're
we've
done
our
best
to
sort
of
respond
to
the
comments
we've
seen
so
far.
E
I
don't
even
know
that
hedging's
the
right
materials,
if
it
is
the
north
side
of
the
house
there
or
what
type
of
hedging
you
were
talking
about,
I'm
assuming
it's
something
like
ficus.
That
would
need
an
ample
amount
of
daylight,
but
it
just
does
seem
like
a
bit
of
an
eyesore
from
below.
There
doesn't
seem
to
be
that
many
houses
below,
but
I
guess
we'll
get
into
that
in
the
comments
come
around
thanks
for
your
response.
E
H
Mean
I
overall,
I
think
it's
you
know
it's
certainly
you
know
it's
come
a
long
way.
I
think
I
still
agree
that
the
garage
is
a
little
tall
on
the
street.
I
think
I'm
not
sure
why
they're
going
with
a
nine-foot
ceiling
interior
if
they
went
with
an
eight
and
drop
the
whole
thing
a
foot
and
then
reduce
the
parapet
by
six
inches.
H
I
think
that
would
be
a
little
bit
nicer
from
a
from
a
streetscape
perspective
and
then
I
do
agree
with
some
of
the
comments
around
like
looking
up
into
the
peers.
So
I
think
that
needs
to
be
addressed
from
a
you
know,
mitigation
standpoint
about
how
those
peers
are
gonna
appear
from
the
homes
below.
So
those
are
my
two
comments.
J
I
will,
if
I
have
a
chance
I
will
say
we-
we
reduced
the
number
of
peers
by
sitting
the
the
south
side
of
that
band
across
the
north,
into
the
hillside,
getting
a
continuous
footing.
There
helped
us
a
lot
structurally,
so
we
were
able
to
reduce
the
number
of
piles
in
this
scheme
than
we
previously
had,
which
we
think
helps
and
noted
on
your
comment
on
the
garage.
I
think
that's
a
good
suggestion.
J
C
J
C
E
Yeah
just
couple
more
questions
just
related
on
our
last
go
around
with
this.
There
was
some
talk
about
the
plans
being
incomplete,
particularly
the
site
plan.
Hardscape
not
being
shown
and
equipment
in
the
yard,
says
hvac
equipment
in
open
crawl
space
is
that
condenser
is
awesome.
J
E
Shield,
yeah,
okay,
and
so
this
is
all
the
hardscape
and
no
other
hardscape
going
on
here
at
all.
J
E
F
Okay,
remember
walsh.
G
I
realize
that
this
has
been
an
uphill
battle
and
it
just
it's
been
a
tough
fit
of
this
product,
stylistically
and
architecturally.
It
is
a
tough
fit
for
this
product
on
this
site,
and
I
think
that
is
a
root
of
of
what
has
taken
an
amount
of
time
and
various
renditions
of
the
design
coming
back
on
day,
one.
G
It
was
brought
to
the
attention
of
of
the
committee
and
of
of
the
sponsors
that
it's
it's
they're
big
of
scale,
and
there
is
the
issue
of
a
repeated
stylistic
design
form
and
those
are
still
here
with
us
today.
Just
in
terms
of
of
problems.
This,
unfortunately,
just
you
know,
has
never
kind
of
evolved
into
something
that
looks
like
it
sprung
out
of
the
hillside.
G
It
looks
a
little
bit
as
though
it
has
been
been
placed,
so
that's
all
yeah.
D
Yeah,
so
when
noriko
was
putting
up
her
conclusion,
she
had
the
number
one
and
two
you
readily
agreed
to
number
one
of
lowering
the
house
number
two
is
between
the
front
property
line.
The
edge
the
pavement
can
be
improved.
I
would
like
to
see
you
agree
to
that.
D
I
think
there
needs
to
be
more
plantings.
We
need
to
know
what
is
what
the
ground
plane
is
going
to
look
like
how
you're
going
to
finish
it.
So
that
front
is
the
front.
F
Thank
you,
yeah,
john.
I'm
glad
you
said
that,
because
that
was
going
to
be
one
of
my
comments
on
the
back
is
that
you're
right,
the
very
first
time
it
was
presented.
There
was
a
hedge
along
the
property
line
which
did
not
seem
appropriate,
and
so
I
think
the
idea
of
bringing
a
more
naturalized
landscape
on
the
on
the
back
side
of
the
house
on
the
north
side
of
the
house
will
help
possibly
screen
some
of
the
piers
and
make
the
house
feel
like
it's
more
part
of
the
lot.
F
E
H
Okay,
I'd
like
to
add
the
you
know:
it's
some
additional
mitigation
around
the
the
peers
from
a
landscape
perspective.
G
Excuse
me,
mr
chairman,
I
think
additionally
there
I
I
mean.
Maybe
I
do
this
as
an
amendment
or
something,
but
did
you
catch
the
fact
that
the
height
of
the
north
elevation
would
come
down
two
feet.
F
You
know:
let's,
let's
let
me
david
procedurally,
do
we
vote
on
his
amendment
or
do
we
ask
him
if
he's
willing
to
accept
additional
amendments
to
his
his
motion.
B
F
Okay,
so
sean
do
you
want
to
recap
everything?
Is
it
that's.
E
In
your
mind,
so
I
think
the
motion
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
this
project
with
a
few
conditions,
one
of
them
being
the
landscape
plan,
comes
back
for
another
review
at
a
date
uncertain,
but
before
completion
and
two
would
have
been
that
front
garage
roof
to
re-examine
that
lower
the
height
of
that
three
now
is
the
lowering
or
the
staff
staff's
comments
which
include
the
the
northern
roof.
Lowering
of
did
I
hear
two
feet
or
yes,
you
were
two.
F
E
F
We
now
move
on
to
item
4,
hawkins
and
marshall,
on
behalf
of
carmelita
properties,
limited
for
major
architectural
application
to
construct
a
four
thousand
one
hundred
nine
square
foot
single
family
residence.
On
an
eleven
thousand
two
hundred
six
square
foot
hillside
parcel
located
at
322
west
crestwood
drive.
May
we
have
a
staff
report?
Please?
Yes,.
I
This
is
the
the
project
that's
being
proposed
next
to
310,
west
crestview
drive,
which
you
just
reviewed
again.
This
is
a
lot
fine
and
it's
adjacent
to
an
existing
single
family
residence
to
the
west
and
the
project
was
reviewed
by
the
on
june
7th.
The
second
review
was
conducted
by
the
arc
on
july
19th,
at
which
point
the
rc
provided
some
comments
and
voted
for
the
project
to
return
for
the
third
review,
which
is
today,
this
is
a
comparison
of
the.
I
What
was
previously
reviewed
and
what's
being
devised
by
the
applicant.
The
size
of
the
residence
has
been
increased,
as
you
see
here,
from
3181
to
4109.
I
A
lot
of
coverage
is
being
actually
reduced
from
28.4
to
26.8.
The
maximum
building
height
has
been
increased
from
the
24
feet.
That
was
previously
proposed
to
almost
20
sorry
28.83,
which
is
almost
29..
The
40
yard
setback
has
been
increased
from
three
feet
to
10
feet
the.
I
However,
the
radioactive
setback
is
being
reduced
slightly
just
to
show
you
that
probably
the
biggest
difference
from
the
previous
proposal,
and
that
this
current
revision
is
that
the
previously
proposed
single
story
structure
has
been
changed
to
a
two-story
structure,
and
this
is
the
north
rio
innovation
of
the
purple's
residence,
and
this
is
the
south
innovation
which
is
a
street-facing
innovation
of
the
proposed
residents
here
and
the
excuse
me
this
should
be
the
the
east
elevation.
I
Sorry,
it's
cut
out
the
corner,
but
this
is
a
side
innovation,
and
this
is
a
west
innovation
which
faces
existing
and
single-family
residents.
I
The
purpose
changed
the
landscape
plan.
The
plant
palette
is
pretty
much
the
same
apricots
proposing
the
installation
of
the
two
there's
a
museum
per
verde
in
the
front
yard
portion.
I
However,
it's
out
of
the
this
area
between
the
front
property
line
and
the
edge
of
the
street
pavement
and
this
table
is
a
comparison
or,
I
should
say
the
applicant's
response
to
the
previous
area
seeds
comments
and
how
things
being
changed.
The
point
equipment
will
be
located
under
the
grant
level.
I
I
The
plans
that
are
included
in
the
packets
are
the
only
engineering
plans
that
are
available
at
this
moment,
which
include
a
hydraulic,
hydraulic,
hydrology
report,
drainage
plan
and
cotton
field.
Calculations
again
that
this
project
and
any
engineering
site,
site
improvement
or
site
alteration
aspect
of
the
project
will
be
reviewed
by
our
engineering
division
prior
to
a
planning
commission
review
other
than
that
landscape
plan.
No
significant
changes
again
at
the
previous
meeting.
The
arc
requested
the
area
between
the
front
property
line
and
the
edge
of
the
street
to
be
landscaped.
I
The
massing
issues
staff
finds
that
this
massive
issue
that
was
previously
discussed
by
the
arc
is
not
fully
addressed
and
then
also
the
the
applicant
provided.
I
However,
staff
finds
that
the
landscape
treatment
leaves
room
for
flexibility
and
improvement,
and
the
lack
of
mechanical
equipment
information
will
not
have
a
significant
impact
on
the
overall
project,
as
it
will
be
located
within
the
residence
excuse
me,
residents
and
the
site.
Engineering
is
a
customary
within
the
purview
of
the
planning
commission
review
the
two-story
construction
instead
of
the
previously
proposed
single-story
residence
staff,
requests
arc,
provided
guidance
and
recommendation
with
regards
to
the
improvement
of
the
building,
mustang
and
based
on
these
findings.
I
The
staff
recommends
aac
recommends,
are
approvable
to
the
planning
commission,
subject
to
the
following
conditions
of
our
approval
that
the
air
sea
applicant
incorporates
arc
recommendation
and
comments
on
improving
the
building
massing
and
the
site
design
along
the
front.
East
side
shall
be
modified,
so
that
steps
will
not
extend
beyond
the
the
architectural
projection.
That's
allowed
by
the
zoning
code,
what
the
variance
approval
needs
to
be
obtained
and
include
the
landscape,
treatment
of
the
area
between
the
front
property
line
and
the
edge
of
the
pavement
in
the
final
landscape
plan.
I
J
All
right
so
on
this
lot,
we
you
know
at
the
last
hearing,
tried
to
get
as
much
feedback
from
the
committee
in
regards
to
the
design
and
the
massing,
and
what
we
heard
from
chairman
jakeway
was
that
the
two-story
massing
was
preferred
to
the
previous
single
story
masking.
So
that's
why
we
went
back
to
this
scheme.
J
Additionally,
moving
the
garage
back
further
away
from
the
front
property
line
does
push
the
whole
building
back
further
north
a
little
bit
causing
the
height
to
increase,
but
given
the
constraint
of
of
the
30
slope
and
also
trying
to
get
the
two
stories
we
are,
we
have
a
maximum
height
of
of
in
somewhere
around
29
feet
or
so
so
that's
why
the
the
height
increased
here.
This
was
in
a
direct
response
to
a
recommendation
from
chairman
jake
lake.
J
Now
the
noriko-
I
don't
know
if
I
heard
you
correctly,
but
did
you
mention
that
we
did
not
address
the
mechanical
equipment
and
show
that
on
this
proposal,
because
this
it
is
there
in
the
site
plan
and
there's
a
mechanical
plan
as
well.
That
shows
where
those
are
being
cited
and
how
they're
getting
directed.
I
J
J
So,
additionally,
we
we
tried
to
keep
what
was
responded
or
what
was
sort
of
applauded
from
the
previous
middle.
From
the
planning
perspective
of
the
stepping
roof
planes,
we
tried
to
keep
that
intact
this
time
and
then
also
respond
to
the
increased
massing
or
the
the
sort
of
the
massing
that
was
preferred
by
chairman
jakeway.
So
that's
why
we're
here
right
now?
There
is
a
minor
comment
about
the
landing,
basically
steps
that
are
at
grade,
leading
from
the
pool
deck
down
to
the
lower
deck.
J
F
D
D
I
am
in
alignment
with
what
I
was
saying
with
the
the
house
next
door.
I
don't
see
I'm
not
clear
on
what
is
going
on
in
the
front.
There's
just
there's
insufficient
landscape
in
the
front
and
no
real
real
details,
as
was
noted
by
staff,
and
I
will
leave
it
at
that.
D
H
J
I
will
mention
that
the
peers
on
this
one
aren't
as
tall
and
if
we're,
if
we
can
work
with
staff
to
drop
the
finished
floor
level,
a
couple
of
feet
which
does
encroach
to
just
the
top
and
end
of
that
30
slope.
It
gives
us
a
slightly
taller
ceiling
because
right
now
we're
at
at
eight
feet
down
there
in
the
lower
level.
It
gives
us
a
taller
ceiling
and
then
it
conceals
the
the
piers.
J
So
if
that's
something
that's
you're
open
to
and
are
willing
to
work
with
us
onward
happy
to
to
work
with
that.
H
H
You
know
just
spaced
evenly
across
the
bottom,
I
mean.
Is
there
an
opportunity
for
you
guys
to
do
kind
of
more
of
a
you
know
some
kind
of
a
block
here
or
something
that
may
kind
of
better
integrate
with
the
facade
on
the
back
that
could
allow
you
know
essentially
a
little
bit
better.
Aesthetic
from
you
know,
looking
up
the
building.
J
H
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think,
if
you
could
do
you
know,
even
if
you
could
do
like
a
you
know,
four
foot
by
two
foot
you
know
plank,
you
know
board
formed
concrete,
pier
something
spaced
more
kind
of
more
integrated
with
the
facade
in
the
back.
It
might
really
make
a
huge
difference
from
the
look
of
the
building
on
the
back.
That's
what
I'm
kind
of
thinking.
J
E
J
E
C
H
H
Over
the
dining,
when
you're
looking
at
the
north
elevation,
that
sean
is
talking
about
on
4.2
there's
looks
like
there's
like
maybe
a
claire
story,
and
then
you
see
this
darker
shading
is
the
garage
in
the
back.
J
Are
you
on
section
a
4.2,
a
4.02?
Yes,
yes,
so
the
nor,
if
I'm
looking
at,
which
view
number
one
correct,
yeah
that
there's
a
clear
story
between
that
band:
horizontal
band,
running
east
west.
Looking
you
know
over
the
kitchen
space,
the
dining
kitchen
space.
J
You
can
also
see
that
in
a
three
point:
zero
zero.
E
J
59
is
the
previous
proposal.
Oh.
E
Up
above
there
I
don't
know,
I
guess
I
guess
I
made.
My
point,
looks
like
the
garage.
Is,
I'm
sure
it's
just
the
floor-to-floor
elevation
height?
Does
the
main
floor
drop
lower
or
is
there
something
that
can
be
done
to
balance
out
and
reduce
that
garage
height?
And
it
sounds
like
there
is?
Yes,
there
is
yeah
super.
F
Sign
any
other
questions:
no
okay,
move
on
to
dan.
Remember
thompson.
H
F
And
remember
walsh,.
G
J
So
this
was
actually.
This
is
an
easy
one.
This
was
just
the
exterior
decking
being
added
this
time
around
to
the
technical
floor
area,
the
building
floor
area
per
definition,
the
interior
condition
space
didn't
increase.
It
was
in
the
previous
submittals.
The
exterior
decks
were
not
calculated.
C
F
J
Lower
floor
actually
got
smaller,
but
yeah
that
covered
deck
because
that
whole
band
along
the
north
and
part
of
it
on
the
the
east
is
covered,
and
that
was
not
part
of
the
calculated
calculated
floor
area.
The
first
time.
F
Okay,
john,
I
didn't
mean
to
interrupt,
do
you
have
any
other?
That's
it.
I
have
no
other
questions.
Thank
you.
Okay.
If
there
are
no
other
questions
from
the
committee,
is
there
are
there
any
comments
from
the
public.
F
Does
not
appear
anyone's
coming
for
kim?
Yes,
please
state,
your
name
and
you've
got
two
minutes.
F
C
C
And
I
think
you
know
still
to
looking
at
them.
They
they
do
seem
very
large
for
the
lot
size
and
for
the
community,
the
neighborhood
of
existing.
But
I
appreciate
all
of
the
comments.
I
agree
with
the
suggestions
that
you
have
made.
K
F
If
not
we'll
go
to
committee
discussion,
why
don't
we
start
with?
I.
F
Sorry,
please
state
your
name.
D
F
Of
the
mr
burns.
E
F
E
F
C
B
J
Well,
I
will
mention
this
was
originally
proposed.
As
a
two-story
structure.
Second
submittal
was
reduced
to
one
story
and
this
the
massing
was
not
well
received
by
chairman
jake
wade,
so
the
this,
the
middle,
the
third
one
goes
back
to
the
two-story.
F
Would
well
with
the
previous
proposal
with
a
one
story,
would
your
view
be
obstructed
as
well?
No,
it
wouldn't.
J
The
first
floor
finish
yes
a
little
bit,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
garage
height
where,
as
as
a
long
press
view,
is
within
a
foot,
foot
and
a
half
so.
F
No,
no,
I
mean
it
was.
It
was
when
I
was
when
I'm
looking
at
the
overall
area.
C
F
I
did
have
concerns
about
any
potential
blocking
of
views,
so
it's
a
good
discussion
to
have
didn't.
H
E
Well,
so
without
the
precise
information,
what
what
can
can
anything?
E
I
don't
personally
don't
find
that
this
edition
of
the
second
story
or
utilizing,
and
I
think
that's
what
jake
way
was
trying
to
encourage
them.
Let
me
finish,
but
I
think
what
he
was
in,
trying
to
encourage
the
last
time
around
was
stepping
down
the
hillside
and
activating
the
natural
slope
of
the
terrain,
which
frankly
feels
like
you're
doing
if
in
fact,
you're
stepping
down.
B
F
L
F
C
Oh,
I'm
sorry!
Well,
I
would
like
to
see,
if
at
all
possible
if
it
could
be
dropped
down
so
that
my
view
isn't
obstructed.
But
then
that
means
someone
would
need
to
come.
Take
a
look
from
my
residence
overlooking
this
crestview
location
and
no
one
has
brought
or
come
to
my
house
to
even
address
this
issue.
F
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
burns.
We'll
take
that
any
other
comments
from
the
public.
F
F
Me,
yes,
please,
you've
got
two
minutes.
Okay,.
L
L
L
L
L
L
J
Okay,
yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
sean's
question.
I
was
doing
the
math
and,
after
lowering
without
doing
anything,
if
we
just
lower
the
parapet
and
lower
the
garage
that
top
of
roof
two
feet
will
only
be
two
feet
taller
than
our
previous
single
story
proposal,
and
we
can
even
work
that
garage
back
down
a
little
bit
further.
E
J
Feet:
yeah:
if
you
look
at
the
plan
the
the
plan
steps,
so
we
raised
the
first
main
level.
We
raised
the
garage
level
two.
E
J
The
garage
was,
I
think,
four
feet.
This
garage
went
up
for
how.
E
J
I'm
just
I
I
have
to
do
the
math
on
and
look
looking
at
it,
but
the
top
of
roof
at
the
highest
point
of
the
of
the
building
would
be
two
feet
taller
than
our
previous
proposal.
Once
we
reduced
that
garage
height,
that's
all
I'd
calculate
right.
There.
I'd
have
to
do
more
math.
If
we
want
to
look
for
the
about
finished
floors,.
F
J
F
Can
I
ask
a
question:
would
you
be
opposed
to
erecting
story
poles
that
would
mark
the
rear
face
of
the
of
the
house
proposed
house,
and
that
way
the
residents
can
see
exactly
what?
What
that,
what
the
potential
impact
is.
J
Certainly
open
to
it
so
long
as
it's
not
causing
further
delays
to
the
review
process.
This
is
these.
You
know,
in
all
fairness,
the
the
first
proposal
we
submitted
was
to
story,
and
this
is
the
first
time
we're
sort
of
hearing
this.
F
Well
again,
I
think
I
think
referencing
back
to
chair
jake
way's
comment.
It
was
more
about
sort
of
responding
to
the
hillside
and
doing
you
know,
potentially
adding
a
lower
level,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
you're
really
quite
there.
Yet
I
don't
know
that
you've
really
responded
to
the
hillside,
which
was
part
of
his
comment.
J
J
J
H
H
H
E
H
F
F
The
height
is
you're
right,
the
height
is
about,
looks
like
it's
about
the
same,
but
this
house
extends
much
further
north
right.
C
F
C
C
That
was
below
on
the
lower
level
of
these
lots.
Yes,
these
houses
are
up
on
ridge
road.
I
own
the
two
lots
on
the
other
side
of
ridge,
road,
I've.
N
F
J
C
C
C
I
would
encourage
you
to
leave
it
where
it
is.
We
went
with
the
minimums
we
could
to
preserve
the
integrity
of
the
value
of
this
house
and,
if
you
keep
compressing
it
we're
going
to
end
up
with
issues
that
are
going
to
end
up.
E
If
you've
cut
that
up
on
piers,
though
the
lower
floor
eric,
why?
Why
would
lowering
it
if
it's
still
going
to
be
up
on
piers?
Why
can't
you
keep
a
nine
foot
ceiling
height
downstairs,
it's.
C
J
F
Okay,
anybody
else
like
to
make
a
comment.
G
Have
you
spoken,
I
thought
I
was
clear
on
all
of
this.
My
thing
until
this
last
conversation
and
it
left
me
confused,
so
I'm
going
to
kind
of
throw
some
things
out
and
let's
see,
if
I
got
it
right,
is
it
the
intent
to
keep
the
finish
floor
of
the
new
proposed
space?
What
it
was
when
it
was
reviewed
on
july
19th?
J
G
Property
and
the
the
garage
finished
floor
height
doesn't
match
the
main
it
works.
G
C
G
There
something
yeah,
okay,
all
right,
so
right
now
does
the
finished
floor
of
what
you
are
proposing
today
match
the
finish
floor
of
the
of
what
you
showed
on
the
19th
of
the
main
level
of
the
main
living
level.
G
Okay,
I
mean
yeah,
I
I
think
chairman
tom
jakeway,
the
the
intent
was
to
to
to
certainly
not
not
voiced
a
second
story
scheme
that
would
end
up
pushing
the
whole
massing
higher.
I
think
that
the
intent
was
to
keep
it
the
way
it
is,
but
take
advantage
of
the
fact
that
you
had
a
void
underneath
the
finished
floor
of
the
main
level.
J
So
the
the
site
is
such
that
if
we
go,
obviously
we
can't
grade
within
30.
I
keep
saying
this,
but
to
be
able
to
get
a
floor,
that's
usable
at
that
level
without
grading,
it
has
to
be
at
a
certain
elevation
or
we
continue
to
go
north
and
that
gets
taller
and
taller.
So
there's
a
fine
line
here
now.
If
we
can
work
with
staff
to
grade
just
a
small
sliver
of
that,
we
can
bring
the
whole
finished
floor
down
on
both
levels,
and
that
would
that
we
would
prefer
that.
G
Okay,
this
this
seems
to
be
a
big
issue
and
it
seems
like
that
is
a
worthy
exercise,
and
it
just
at
the
starting
points
I
would
look
at
would
be
to
to
keep
the
the
finished
main
level.
What
it
was
on
the
19th
and
see
see
what
you
have
to
do
to
make
it
work
to
take
advantage
of
the
void
beneath
that.
D
Yeah
you're
right,
we
would
have
to
analyze
a
precise
grading
plan
which
we
have
not
received
at
this
point.
The
hillside
of
the
hillside
ordinance
is
very
clear,
you're
not
supposed
to
be
touching
anything
over
a
30
slope.
So
if
that's
something
that
the
commissions
and
planning
commission
want
to
give
authority
of
a
certain
portion
that
is
up
to
you
at
a
staff
level,
I
can.
I
cannot
authorize
that.
D
Yeah,
if
you
guys
want
to
talk
about
it
and
say
you
know,
maybe
we'll
go
into
it
a
few
feet
then,
once
the
precise
trading
plans
are
done,
we
review
that
with
the
city
engineer
for
that
final
design
and
then
pc
would
have
the
final
say
I
think
in
that.
But
but
that's
that's
where
we
need
to
come
from.
F
Well,
I
think
I
think
the
I
think
the
committee
is
kind
of
is
is
in
unison
in
thinking
that
the
the
mass
of
this
house
has
to
get
lower
and
and
that
it
needs
to
feel
like
it's
more
responding
better
to
the
hillside.
F
B
Mr
chair,
I
would
just
just
to
elaborate
on
what
mr
minhara
said.
I
would
just
indicate
that
ours,
our
general
plan,
discourages
modifying
areas
of
soap
that
exceed
30
percent
slope,
so
he
is
correct
in
that
sense,
but
the
planning
commission
does
have
authority
to
allow
certain
encroachments
into
that
area,
so
that
your
recommendation
today
can
go
forward
to
the
planning
commission
that
that
the
floor
has
been
lowered.
J
The
diagram
on
sheet
a
t,
0.01,
does
show
the
approximate
30
percent
slope.
Now
we
have
which.
J
We're
right
there
t
0.01,
we're
right
there,
so
we
would
only
be
we
would
only
be
affecting
in
our
approximation
just
the
top
end
of
that
slope.
So
I
think
you
know
we're
for
that.
We
would
like
to
bring
the
whole
thing
down
and
reduce
the
the
effect
of
those
peers.
So
if
that's
something
you
would
be
okay
to
approve
as
a
condition,
we
would
be
happy
with
that.
I
think
everyone
would.
E
J
I'm
saying
yeah
as
long
as
as
long
as
staff
would
allow
like
maybe
maybe
a
couple
feet
into
that.
There's
no
problem
meeting
that
same
finished
floor
area
from
the
previous
just
the
middle.
E
Well,
you're,
showing
like
500
going
through
there
anyway
top
slab
main
bottom
of
the
poles
at
494..
So
as
long
as
you're
not
moving
north
you're
only
moving
downward,
then
I'm
not
seeing
the
issue
because
that
gray
zone
looks
like
it
kind
of
skirts
the
outer
perimeter
of
the
north
facade
and
foundation.
E
J
J
J
And
again,
it
would
help
reduce
the
number
of
peers
if
we
can
get
continuous
footings.
I
think
that
was
a
small
portion
of
continuous
footings,
as
was
mentioned
by
steve
on
the
previous
project.
Actually,
no,
it's
this
one
that
helps
us
from
a
structural
point
of
view
as
well.
So
there
are
benefits
all
around.
F
Well,
I'll,
I
guess
I'll
try
one.
I
move
to
approve
with
the
following
conditions
and
recommendations:
they
incorporate
the
staff
comments,
which
would
be
resolving
the
side
yard
setback.
The
steps
in
the
side
yard
setback
revising
the
landscape
plan
for
that,
it's
better.
F
F
Also
moved
that
they
work
with
staff
to
try
and
lower
the
overall
height
of
the
building,
including
the
garage
parapet
and
the
garage
slab.
E
F
F
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
clarification.
I
should.
I
should
state
it
that
the
reducing
the
height
of
the
garage
parapet
and
is
a
condition
and
then
the
recommendation
is
to
work
with
staff
to
lower
the
overall
building
elevations.
F
A
D
N
N
N
So
the
pad
site
that
is
currently
under
construction
for
the
starbucks
and
one
other
tenant
is
at
the
corner
of
vistacino
and
south
sunrise
way
next
to
the
existing
wells
fargo.
So
this
is
an
aerial
photograph
showing
the
pad
site
before
construction
began.
N
So
we
have
the
luxury
of
actually
having
photographs
of
the
building
under
construction
so
that
we
can
compare
as
to
where
the
sign
proposed
signs
will
go.
So
this
is
the
side
that
faces
sunrise
way.
N
You'll
notice
that
the
architecture
review
committee
requested
that
a
new
patio
cover
be
constructed,
which
is
the
metal
structure
right
here,
and
the
drive
through
window
pickup
window
is
facing
sunrise
and
the
walls
that
are
under
construction
right
now,
and
this
is
a
a
full-on
front
view
of
it
as
it
faces
sunrise
way
and
on
this
side.
This
is
the
side
that
faces
wells,
fargo
and
you'll
notice.
The
wood
elements
on
top
is
where
the
signs
will
be
placed.
N
N
Their
proposal
is
several
signs.
They're
allowed
to
have
one
sign
that
faces
the
street,
which
would
be
the
sign
that
faces
sunrise
way
over
the
driveway,
a
drive-through
and
then
they're,
proposing
two
additional
signs
on
the
north
side
and
the
south
side,
which
are
the
signs
in
red
or
the
lines
that
are
red.
N
The
sign
package
also
includes
several
menu
boards
and
pre-menu
screens,
which
are
in
also
in
the
red.
N
They
are
proposing
a
monument
sign
which
we'll
discuss
in
just
a
minute,
so
the
sign
that
faces
sunrise
way
is
21
square
feet.
It
meets
the
code.
The
sign
that
faces
wells
fargo
is
34
square
feet.
N
This
does
not
meet
the
code
because
it
does
not
face
the
street
the
same
with
the
sign
that
faces
the
middle
on
the
north
side
of
the
building.
This
does
not
face
a
street
and
does
not
meet
the
code,
and
then
the
monument
sign
is
31
square
feet.
There's
only
a
lot
of
monuments
as
part
of
the
three
existing
signs,
so
this
would
be
an
additional
monument
sign
and
then
there
are
other
drive-through
and
directional
signs.
N
N
And
then
the
sign
that
faces
the
the
above,
the
drive-through
that
faces
sunrise
way
and
then
the
west
elevation.
Once
again,
this
is
tenant
b.
We
are
not
aware
of
what
the
signs
will
be
because
the
space
has
not
been
leased
yet,
and
so
in
going
through
these
signs
you'll
see
that
they
are
channel
letters,
halo,
lit
they'll,
be
green
during
the
day
and
then
white
at
night.
N
N
There
are
series
of
directional
signs
showing
cars
how
to
enter
and
exit
the
drive-through
itself,
there's
a
clearance
bar
that
has
no
signage
on
it
and
then
a
series
of
menu
boards,
so
there's
a
pre-menu
board
that
will
change
with
different
specials
throughout
the
year
and
then
a
canopy
menu
board.
That
includes
this
arm
here
and
then
the
you
order
at
this
menu
and
then
in
front
of
you
is
the
panel
panel
menu
that
is
stacked.
N
It
does
not
change
it's
not
a
digital
menu
board
and
you'll
see
that
it
pivots
so
that
it
faces
the
driver
as
they
come
through.
The
the
driveway
so
once
again,
this
is
a
view
of
the
proposed
signs,
the
one
that
faces
sunrise
way,
which
is
a
permitted
sign,
the
two
signs
on
the
north
and
south
elevation,
which
are
exactly
the
same
in
size
and
then
the
menu
boards.
N
As
you
come
around,
I
will
like
to
say
that
the
building
for
wells
fargo
is
on
the
south
side,
so
the
menu
boards
will
not
be
visible
from
the
street.
They
may
be
visible
from
the
parking
lot
between
world
gym
and
this
building,
but
they
won't
be
visible
from
most
any
other
place
in
the
shopping
center,
so
the
shopping
center
was
first
constructed
back
in
the
70s,
and
then
successive
signs
have
been
added.
This
is
a
monument
sign
that
is
currently
there.
N
N
Maybe
at
some
point
the
shopping
center
owner
will
update
these
monument
signs,
but
this
is
currently
what
is
there
now
so
they're
proposing
to
add
one
monument
sign
between
the
drive-through
lane
and
sunrise
way,
which
will
be
seven
feet
tall
and
in
this
diagram
it's
a
it's
a
blow
up
of
the
dining
area
of
the
outside.
This
is
the
exit
drive
through
area
and
then
the
monument
sign
is
on
the
outside
of
the
wall
towards
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
the
new
wall,
that's
being
constructed.
N
So,
as
you
see
here
at
seven
feet
tall,
it
has
both
tenants,
the
starbucks
with
logo,
with
the
drive
through
the
tenant
b,
it's
it's
metal
and
then
we
have
a
wood
element
that
goes
vertical.
That
ties
the
monument
sign
in
with
the
building
itself
so
chair.
N
You
have
findings
that
you
can
make
in
support
of
the
monument
sign
itself,
and
this
is
a
again
at
night,
so
staff
is
recommending
that
the
future
sign
locations
for
tenant
b
be
consistent
with
the
size
and
location
and
then
give
direction
on
the
monument
sign,
the
size,
location
and
design.
N
We've
chosen
to
split
these
out
because
the
architecture
review
committee
may
want
to
approve
the
signs
on
the
building
and
then
have
discussions
on
the
monument
sign.
So
that
concludes
my
report
chair
and
it's
in
back
for
discussion.
N
C
H
And
glenn
I
had
a
question
you
mentioned
the
two
signs
facing
the
interior
that
are
not
facing
the
street
were
not
approved
or
not
didn't
you
know
weren't
compliant,
but
what
you
know
I
didn't
see
a
recommendation
about
that.
What
is
your,
what
is
the
recommendation
for
those
two
interior
signs.
N
Right
staff
staff
recommends
that
those
additional
signs
would
be
consistent
with
what
we
have
seen
on
other
buildings
of
these
types
of
corporate
entities,
so
they're
appropriately
scaled.
The
size
looks
within
scale
and
consistent
with
other
buildings,
so
we
would
recommend
approval
on
the
additional
two
signs.
Okay,.
N
The
building
and
I'm
let
me
see
if
I
go
to
the
aerial-
oh
here,
this
will
show
you,
so
the
building
does
sit
farther
out
than
the
adjacent
wells
fargo.
So
if
you're
coming
up
sunrise
way,
you
would
be
able
to
see
it,
it
would
be
on
the
the
south
side,
so
it
would
be
visible
when,
as
you
come
up
sunrise-
and
you
could
make
your
decision
if
you
wanted
to
turn
left
undivisino
or
continue
up
sunrise
and
then
turn
into
the
main
between
albertsons
and
and
this
parking
lot
got
it.
Thank
you.
F
Tom,
I
have
some
questions.
Yeah
robert
glenn,
I'm
assuming
that
the
monument
sign
is
proposed
to
be
two-sided,
is
that
right.
F
And
then
remind
me
when
we
reviewed
this
originally
with
the
drive-through,
aren't
you
required
to
burn
or
screen
the
cars
in
the
drive-through
from
the
right-of-way.
N
F
And
so
can
you
go
back,
I'm
just
trying
to
see.
Oh,
I
see
so.
The
monument
sign
would
be
forward
of
that
wall.
The.
N
G
Chairman,
yes
glenn,
I
I
am
a
little
confused
on.
Of
course,
there
is
the
new
proposed
single
sign
on
sunrise
for
starbucks.
What
about
the
other
existing
monument
signs.
N
The
those
signs
are
meant
to
stay.
So
if
we
go
to
the
pictures,
you'll
see
that
there's
no
other
places
starbucks
on
there,
so
right
their
worlds
would
go
or
wells
fargo
there
just
is
no
there's
no
place
to
put
starbucks
on
them.
Okay,
okay,.
G
So
this
is
neither
here
or
there,
so,
the
in
so
the
the
new
monument
sign
for
starbucks
has
nothing
to
do
with
these
existing
three
that
are
on
someplace
else.
Over
there.
G
It
okay,
all
right,
okay,
and
then
there
there
was
some
correspondence.
I
I
saw
that
there
there
was
a
similar
situation
with
another
writer.
N
You
received
an
email
from
from
a
citizen
and
that
was
discussing
the
building,
I'm
sorry
the
shopping
center,
that
is
at
the
corner
of
of
sunri.
I'm
sorry,
north
palm
canyon
and
racquet
club,
where
the
mclean
and
the
carl's
jr
is.
N
There
was
some
discussion
about
a
coffee
shop
that
is
currently
there.
We
have
not
received
any
request
to
amend
a
sign
program
so
that
owner
could
go
through
the
same
process
to
amend
the
sign
program.
D
So
do
any
of
the
other
there's
there's
the
three
signs
within
the
existing
sign
program.
Is
there
any
other
specialty
signs
within
this
shopping
center?
We're
similar
to
this
monument
sign
requested.
N
D
N
No
other
the
signs
are
all
on
the
tenants,
our
basic
channel
letter.
They
all
have
the
same
color.
So
there's
nothing,
that's
any
this
is.
This
would
be
different
than
what
they're
asking
for
within
the
shopping
center.
It's
existing
okay.
O
Okay,
this
is
jay
racer
with
yes
go.
We
are
the
one
of
the
few
sign
vendors
for
starbucks.
In
this
particular
case,
I
actually
represent
both
starbucks
and
the
landlord
for
the
two
different
portions.
So
we
have
the
standard,
starbucks
signage
and
we
have
the
monument
sign,
which
is
actually
the
landlord
that
would
build
it.
Regarding
the
building
itself,
there's
there's
nothing
special
there.
The
the
biggest
thing
that
we
did
here
was
trying
to
stick
with
the
master
sign
program
that
was
made
quite
some
time
ago.
O
O
We
decided
to
go
ahead
and
switch
this
to
line
up
with
the
msp
and
make
it
much
easier
and
simpler
for
you
guys
to
be
able
to
deal
with.
Hopefully
that
was
the
the
reason
for
switching
it
to
the
the
letters
regarding
the
drive-through
stuff
when
this
was
originally
made
as
well.
I
believe
there
was
no
drive-throughs
in
the
location
and
so
had
to.
We
have
to
include
this
in
the
msp
because
of
the
fact
that
it's
just
not
allowed
at
this
point
right,
there's
really
two
menus
in
there.
O
The
pre
menu,
which
is
letter
j
and
then
the
five
panel
menu,
which
is
what
you
see
when
you're
sitting
at
the
order
point
k
is,
is
not
a
menu.
It
is
a
it's
a
digital
order,
confirmation
screen.
O
So
it's
a
speaker
and
it's
a
screen
that
shows
you
what
you've
ordered,
but
there's
no
menu
items
on
there.
No
pricing
other
than
whatever
you've
ordered,
showing
up
to
confirm
that
your
order
is
correct
right
just
to
let
you
know
what
that
is,
and
the
canopy
for
that
when
there
is
rain
or
too
much
sun,
the
canopy
helps
to
to
guard
the
screen
so
that
people
can
read
it
easy
and
they
don't
have
to
worry
about
that
other
than
that.
O
The
only
other
big
issue
is
obviously
the
monument
sign
and
the
landlord
as
part
of
their
deal
with
starbucks
and
trying
to
bring
them
in
was
to
get
them
space
on
either
an
existing
monument
sign
or
a
new
monument
sign,
and
so
what
they
came
up
with
to
us
was
hey.
Let's,
let's
see
if
we
can
get
a
smaller
version
of
a
monument
sign
that
would
be
dedicated
to
this
new
pad.
O
That
would
allow
starbucks
to
get
possession
on
the
position
on
that,
but
we
wouldn't
have
to
build
three
new
signs,
at
least
not
right
at
this
time,
as
far
as
redoing
those
and
making
them
a
lot
bigger
to
fit
additional
tenants
over
what's
already
there.
So
what
we
did
is
is
took
the
allowances
that
are
usually
there
for
a
tenant
like
that.
O
We
actually
went
a
foot
smaller
than
what
is
generally
allowed
in
the
eight
foot
to
try
to
make
it
just
big
enough
to
get
a
logo
on
there,
since
we
couldn't
have
our
standard
logo
on
the
building
because
of
the
size
reduction.
That
was
there
other
than
that
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
other
questions.
The
rest
is
just
truly
trying
to
have
the
try
to
have
a
sign
over
the
front
door
trying
to
visibility
to
the
corner
and
allowing
people
to
know
that
it
is
a
starbucks
and
its
drive-through.
A
Yeah,
I
think
it
was
a
pretty
clear
presentation.
Is
there
anybody
from
the
public
who
wants
to
comment
on
this
particular
item.
F
A
F
Yeah
robert
yeah,
so
my
overall
thinking
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
starbucks
signs
on
the
small
building
and
to
me
it
would
seem
like
having
a
sign
on
the
on
the
north
and
south
side
of
the
building
would
be
far
more
effective
than
one
facing
sunrise
because
you
get
the
traffic
coming
and
going
on
sunrise.
That
way,
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
the
applicant
would
be
amenable
to
eliminating
that
one
sign
that
faces
sunrise.
O
It's
it's
possible
if
we
could
guarantee
that
we
would
get
the
monument
sign
and
those
other
two,
those
would
probably
better.
I
would
obviously
have
to
get
starbucks
in
the
end.
To
tell
me
yes,
but
I
think
that
would
work
for
them
this
they're
supposed
to
open
in
like
four
weeks,
and
I
still
have
to
build
other
signage.
So
I
I
have
a
feeling
that
they
would
be
a
minimal
if
that's
what
it
would
take
to
get
everything
else
approved
and
go
ahead
and
move
forward.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
committee
discussion.
F
Well,
I
kind
of
I
kind
of
let
in
with
the
question-
and
I
really
think
you
know
the
three
signs
saying
starbucks
right
through
is
a
little
overkill,
especially
on
the
size
of
the
building,
and
I
think
it
would
be
far
more
effective
for
them
to
trap
traffic
or
or
customers
if
it's
just
on
the
two
sides
of
the
building
and
not
facing
sunrise.
F
O
So
right,
like
I
said
if,
if
they
were
like,
you
said
the
second
tenant's
not
going
to
have
very
good
at
all-
and
this
would
be
a
big
help
to
that.
So
we
would,
I
think
they
would
definitely
be
fine
with
with
going
with
the
two
on
the
north
and
south
because,
like
you
said,
there's
much
better
visibility
with
those
anyway,
as
if
they
could
get
that
the
monument
side
as
well,
because
that
gives
them
right
out
front
building
anyway.
O
It's
it's
not
as
busy
they're
bigger
signs,
but
they
when
they're
just
a
logo,
they
tend
to
kind
of
fade
away
a
little
bit
right,
but
when
we
have
to
go
and
make
them
smaller
and
go
towards
the
starbucks
it
it
just,
it
becomes
what
it
is.
We
didn't
have
an
option
there.
We
had
to
pull
those
down
because
36
inches
just
wasn't
big
enough:
they
they
don't
go
forward
with
that
right.
So
I
think
they'd
be
very
happy
with
the
two
elevations
and
and
the
monument
okay.
A
Now,
the
three
current
monument
signs
are
really
related
more
to
entrances,
to
the
parking
lot,
they're,
not
right
adjacent
to
the
buildings
that
they're
advertising,
where
here
the
architecture
starbucks
is
so
unique
compared
to
the
rest
of
the
sun.
The
center,
I
think,
having
a
sign
that
relates
to
the
architecture
of
starbucks
makes
sense.
So
I
would
be
in
favor
of
this.
D
I'm
going
to
disagree,
I
think
the
three
pieces
that
we're
talking
about
do
not
meet
code.
This
is
a
change
and
in
looking
at
other
starbucks
around
town
and
around
the
west,
I
was
on
a
road
trip.
Nobody
missed
the
starbucks.
Everybody
saw
where
it
was,
I
would
say,
keep
the
starbucks
drive-thru
sign
on
sunrise
and
if
we
want
to
give
them
something
else,
why
don't
they
just
put
the
logo
up
in
the
other
areas,
rather
than
having
large
printed
out
starbucks.
D
D
E
D
The
if
you
look
at
the
shopping
center
at
uranus
I
mean
I'm
sorry,
not
arenas,
let's
scream
looking
forward.
Thank.
D
D
E
Landscape
plan
that's
been
considered
and
there
is
no
change
to
that
and
there
is
landscape
and
birming
going
on
the
south
side
of
this
building.
Sorry,
east
side,
sunrise.
N
Right
so
if
I
could
share
again
here,
I
don't
have
the
landscape
plan
up.
N
Sorry,
let
me
go
up
to
the
the
picture
of
the
building
itself,
so
there.
No,
this
is
fully
landscaped.
I
don't
have
the
landscape
plant
in
front
of
me
and
then
the
the
wall
wraps
around
here
so
you'll
see
that
there's
some
burning
already
against
this
wall,
but
the
wall
is
the
is
the
main
barrier
between
the
drive-through,
but
this
will
all
be
landscaped,
and
I
I
can
pull
up
the
landscape
plan.
If
you
want
to
see
it.
If
you
give
me
a
minute,
I
can
pull
it
up.
B
A
N
O
The
opposite,
actually,
the
the
problem
comes
in
at
the
size.
If
you
see
that
building
on
top
wits,
that's
one
of
very
few,
I
built
those
signs
as
well,
but
that's
one
of
the
very
few
locations
that
they
even
allowed
to
to
do
it
that
size,
because
the
36
is
just
too
small,
so
they
would
do
48
inches,
but
that's
usually
the
lowest.
They
go
for
doing
the
the
logo
on
a
building
side.
O
When
you
look
at
this
one,
you
can
see
that
how
large
the
drive-through
is
in
comparison
to
the
logo,
that's
above
it
and
they
just
corporate.
Doesn't
they
won't
approve
that?
Look,
because
it's
not
what
they're
going
for
it's
just
not
quite
right,
so
they
would
be
happy
to
put
a
logo
on
the
north
and
south
and
leave
starbucks
on
the
east
right
if
they
could
put
48
inch
logos
up.
N
Yes,
okay,
so
this
is
a
rendering
that
was
presented
at
final
approval,
so
you'll
see
that
the
it's
burned
up
to
the
wall
with
this
landscaping
and
obviously
this
doesn't
show
the
monument
sign.
N
So
it
looks
like
there's
two
or
four
palo
verde
trees
along
the
front
here
and
then
lower
lower
plantings
along
the
sidewalk.
O
They
are
not
not,
usually,
it
takes
longer
to
get
it
approved
and
it's
very
difficult
to
get
them
approved.
N
Correct
right,
the
sign
program
amendment
is
asking
for
two
additional
signs
in
the
building
beyond
what
the
code
would
allow.
O
Now
again,
like
you
said,
they're
they're
always
open
to
trying
to
figure
things
out.
We
had
only
switched
from
the
logo
to
the
other,
because
the
msp
in
general
approved
the
lettering
over.
It
appeared
that
you
guys
didn't
really
care
for
large
logos
at
all,
so
we
went
away
from
the
logo
because
we
didn't
want
to
have
two
hurdles.
One
asking
you
for
a
sign
two
asking
you
for
a
sign
that
that
is
much
larger
than
what
you
currently
allow
right.
We
would
prefer
to
do
logos.
O
We
really
would,
and
it
would
be
wonderful
to
be
able
to
do.
You
know
we
could
also,
if
we
had
the
monument
out
there
and
that
had
the
logo
and
and
drive
through,
we
could
pull
the
drive
through
off
those
and
just
put
a
logo
up
there,
and
maybe
that
would
be
okay
being
smaller
right
because
it
doesn't
have
to
match
up
with
the
other
stuff.
O
If
we
could
put,
if
we
put
a
couple
of
48
inch
or
even
36,
inch
or
part
way
in
between
42
inches,
we
could
build
custom
ones
that
they
would
probably
approve
for
the
two
heights
versus
the
one
facing
the
street.
O
D
O
Right
and
that's
what
that's,
what
starbucks
is
trying
to
do
across
the
whole
across
the
whole
country
right,
but
we
can't
do
that
here
so,
but
I
understand
your
point
on
that
as
well
and
if
you
would
prefer
that
we
do
logos
with
with
the
drive
through
below
it,
then
we
can
do
that.
The
question
is:
just
becomes
the
size
that
you
would
allow
here.
O
So
would
you
allow
us
to
have
them
the
36-inch
logos
on
on
the
sorry
themselves
and
facing
sunrise.
D
A
O
Needed
well
and
and
if
we
could
just
have
it
on
the
facing
east
and
then
not
put
it
on
the
north
south,
I
think
that
would
be
okay,
because
then
we
don't
have
the
the
drive-through
juxtaposed
to
the
size
of
logo,
which
is
the
bigger
problem
with
corporate
in
having
the
smaller
logo.
F
O
Yeah,
you
know
whatever
whatever
in
the
end
you're
going
to
like
and
and
the
community
is
going
to
enjoy,
I
I
can
push
them
towards
and
and
try
to
get
that
right,
the
biggest
thing.
If,
if
we
can
come
up
with
something
that
works
for
you
guys
and
and
I
know,
would
work
for
them,
then
then
we
can
do
that
if
we
don't
have
drive-through
on
the
north
and
the
south,
and
if
we
could
do
the
42-inch
logo.
Even
I
I'd
be
happy
with
36.
O
We
know
we're
asking
for
quite
a
bit:
it's
you
know
it's
our
standard
to
go
larger
than
that,
but
but
we
also
want
to
fit
in
the
community
that
we're
in
we
don't
want
to
be
annoying,
and
so
we
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
taking
advantage
and
making
sure
that
people
see
that
that
they're
there
in
that
corner.
So
you
know
if
we
could
do
the
two
logos
of
36
leave
the
letters
facing
east
and
we
would
be,
I
think
they
would
be
fine
with
it.
O
B
B
If
we
had
two
logos
that
were
36
inches,
that
would
be
roughly
9
square
feet
each.
So
that's
about
18,
and
then
you
still
have
a
remaining
area
of
about
31
square
feet,
so
I
think
they
can
accommodate
their
elevation
on
sunrise.
The
the
question
then
becomes
is
if
the
committee
wants
to
allow
two
additional
signs
on
the
building
for
the
north
and
south
side,
as
well
as
the
the
monument
sign
right.
H
H
The
two
logos
on
the
south
and
north
and
then
written
on
the
east
side
than
the
way
it's
currently
proposed.
We
would
be
happy.
D
A
E
Don't
know
tom
I'm
having
a
little
issue:
I've
gotta
I've,
gotta
get
home
and
my
wife's
traveling
this
week
and
and
I'm
hard
to
air
all
this
right
now,
but
I'm
kind
of
nanny
I've,
gotta
get
home
and
relieve.
A
Okay,
but
we
will
still
have
a
quorum
if
you
have
to
leave
now.
I
know
you're
not
going
to
be
with
us
for
the
last
item
anyway.
Yeah.
H
I
Okay,
thank
you.
This
is
a
proposed,
a
new
hillside,
single
family
races.
The
project
site
is
a
sub-standard
vacant
lot
in
the
rv
club
neighborhood,
and
this
is
just
to
show
the
science
topography.
I
I
The
project
site
is
adjacent
to
existing
single
family
residences
on
the
south
and
east
sides
and
on
the
other
side
of
the
street,
which
is
a
rim.
Road
is
a
mountain
and
excuse
me,
you
see
on
this
planet
there's
an
existing,
a
private
access
road
in
the
south
portion
of
the
property.
I
This
is
a
proposed
residence.
The
lot
size
is
5755
square
feet
and
the
proposed
residence
is
1025
square
feet,
with
a
maximum
building
height
of
17.3
feet
and
about
coverage
of
41.8
and
our
purpose.
Frontier
setback
is
10
feet
the
african
and
has
submitted
an
administrative,
minor
modification
application.
I
In
conjunction
with
this
azure
architecture,
review
application,
the
project
site
will
be
accessible
from
its
south
side
where
the
access
road
is
located.
When
you
try
to
get
into
the
property.
The
first
you
see
a
carport
and
then
these
to
the
residence
in
the
rear
portion
and
applicants
proposing
a
law
school
in
the
west
portion
of
the
property
and
the
the
north
side,
which
is
the
side
yard
in
the
back.
That's
going
to
be
a
landscaped
area
and
the
poor
equipment
will
be
located
there
as
well.
I
This
is
just
to
show
the
floor
plan
or
the
purpose
residence
again.
The
project
proposes
a
carport
in
the
south
area,
which
leads
to
the
residents,
which
includes
a
studio
area,
a
bedroom
kitchen
fireplace
living
room,
and
so,
of
course,
these
are
the
divisions
rendering
submitted
by
the
applicant
and
just
to
show
what
the
purpose
resonance
will.
Look
like.
The
construction
materials
include
a
board
form
the
concrete
plywood
coating,
steel,
anodized,
aluminum
window
system
and
galvanized
steel
grading.
I
The
purpose
landscape
is
a
very
minimal
if
the
project
proposes
to
retain
a
large
portion
of
the
existing
hillside
landscape
and
the
proposed
landscape
is
intended
to
accentuate
the
proposed
residence.
I
I
The
african
is
requesting
an
amm
approval
for
the
log
coverage,
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
it
clear
that
the
red,
the
purple's
resonance,
is
only
1025
square
feet.
However,
the
design
incorporates
a
large
overhang
covered
back
area,
so
the
calculation
increase
the
area
as
well,
and
this
is
to
show
the
cross
section.
I
The
poor
equipment
will
be
located
under
the
ground
level.
As
you
see
on
the
section.
Excuse
me
side
section,
one
towards
the
left.
I
That's
where
the
sorry
that's
a
planter,
actually
sorry
which
is
going
to
be
right
next
to
the
pool,
and
the
next
section
right
here
is
where
the
provost
who
equipment
will
be
located
again.
It's
under
the
residence
in
the
north
side
yard
and
the
project
proposes
a
solar
panels
and
the
roof
will
have
a
circular
opening
which
allows
the
light
to
come
through
and
to
emphasize
this
border,
which
is
going
to
be
uninstalled
as
an
accent
for
this
residence.
I
The
pro
project
generally
conforms
to
the
r1b
zone
development
standards,
with
the
exception
of
the
projection
of
the
steps
and
the
fence
high
in
the
north
side
yard.
Based
on
these
findings,
staff
recommends
arc
recommend
approval
to
the
planning
commission
subject
to
the
following
conditions
of
approval.
I
The
first
one
is
that
to
omit
the
brimstone
gravel
along
the
west
property
line
and
retain
existing
natural
landscape
for
smear,
the
visual
transition
to
the
json
landscape
and
omit
the
steps
in
the
north
side
yard,
from
the
plan
of
denver
and
sapporo
as
an
alternative,
as
staff
recommend
the
cons,
the
consideration
for
installing
a
gate
on
the
rim
road
to
provide
access
to
the
equipment
instead
of
the
excuse
me
instead
of
the
steps
for
maintenance
purposes
and
the
last
one
is
to
push
back
the
purple's
fence
in
the
front
north
side
yard
by
1.5
feet
again.
I
A
Thank
you,
noriko
questions
of
staff
from
the
committee.
A
No
questions
of
staff,
then,
if
the
applicant
could
come
forward
and
give
us
your
name-
and
you
have
10
minutes
to
give
us
a
presentation
on
the
project.
Q
Hello,
thank
you,
hello.
My
name
is
carlo
parente,
I'm
the
architect
for
the
project
and
acting
as
the
agent
for
the
owner.
The
owner
is
artist
and
designer
bob
faust
who's
on
the
call.
This
evening
the
residence
is
named,
roe
cliff
in
celebration
of
bob's
parents,
rachelle
and
cliff
house.
Q
It
will
be
a
home
and
studio
for
bob
and
his
partner
acclaimed
artist
nick
cave
from
the
beginning
of
this
project.
We've
designed
the
residence
based
on
bob's
desire
to
have
a
home
that
is
humble
and
blends
with
the
palm
springs
context,
really
a
building
that
will
add
to
the
architecture
of
the
area
and
also
will
act
as
a
thoughtful
neighbor.
Q
I
believe
we've
created
a
low
profile
structure
with
materials
that
noriko
mentioned,
like
board
form
concrete
glass,
corten
steel
that
complement
the
materiality
in
the
context
of
the
area.
As
noted
in
our
application,
the
constrained
nature
of
the
site,
which
is
probably
one
of
the
smallest
slots
in
the
area,
requires
the
building
to
be
pushed
further
northeast.
In
order
to
provide
the
functional
required
habitable
space
for
a
small
residence,
the
home
and
studio
will
be
approximately
a
thousand
square
feet,
as
noriko
mentioned,
we're
asking
for
an
increase
in
the
maximum
height.
Q
The
increase
in
maximum
height
is
also
not
will
not
be
noticeable
from
the
main
rim.
Road
elevation
as
the
site
slopes
to
the
west,
so
the
reduced
setback
and
the
increase
in
maximum
height
of
the
structure
will
not
make
the
house
more
prominent
in
any
way
the
whole.
The
house
will
actually
only
project
about
eight
feet
from
rim
road,
maintaining
our
initial
intent
of
a
low
profile
architecture
that
blends
with
the
existing
landscaping
context.
Q
Which
is
once
again
a
product
of
us
smaller
than
typical
lot
size
to
compensate
for
the
small
site
we've
attached
the
carport
to
the
house,
which
means
it
now
needs
to
be
included
in
coverage.
The
carport
is
designed
to
appear
light.
It's
open
on
three
sides,
which
means
that
the
minimal
coverage
increase
will
be
very
will
have
very
little
visual
impact.
Q
We've
reviewed
the
planning
report
and
agreed
to
the
recommendations
that
noriko
just
mentioned.
Omitting.
The
brimstone
is
something
that
we
think
will
improve
the
intent
allowing
the
landscape
to
blend
more,
and
there
are
no
issues
with
omitting
the
steps
on
the
north
side
or
pushing
the
northwest
fence
by
1.5
meters.
We
were
able
to
conform
to
all
of
those
recommendations.
Q
Noriko
forwarded
a
letter
from
the
neighbors
indicating
two
points
of
concern.
We
responded
to
the
letter
with
our
clarifications.
Q
Q
Q
As
we
noted
in
our
response,
we
will
coordinate
with
the
contractors
and
ensure
that
access
is
limited
to
the
public
roads
and
that
all
construction
stays
within
the
constraints
of
the
owner's
property.
I
believe
there
was
a
slight
bit
of
confusion
about
the
south
portion
of
the
access
road,
as
noriko
mentioned,
there's
this
access
road
that
is
actually
part
of
the
client's
lot.
Q
Q
So
I
know
that
bob
and
nick
are
looking
forward
to
becoming
part
of
the
community
and
we're
very
thankful
that
the
planning
for
the
assistance
by
the
planners
thus
far
and
we're
welcome
to
any
comments.
Thank
you.
F
Robert
yeah,
on
your
roof
plan,
you're
showing
some
solar
panels.
Do
you
have
much
of
a
parapet
around
your
the
roof
or
is
it
you
know
pretty
flat.
Q
It's
pretty
flat,
there's
there's
a
minimal
increase
of
about
12
inches
and
it
has
to
do
we're
still
detailing
the
roof
and
we're
looking
at
the
various
slopes,
and
the
idea
is
to
we've
pushed
the
pvs
back
as
far
as
we
think
would
work
and
we're
going
to
intend
to
keep
them
as
flat
as
possible.
We'll
work
with
our
energy
engineer
to
to
find
the
ideal
proportions
and
deal
with
it.
The
idea
is
that
it
doesn't
project
up
and
create
an
eyesore.
A
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
First,
I
think
it's
a
beautiful
design,
but
I
really
question
the
if
it
can
be
built
and
the
reason
I'm
I'm
looking
at
a
structural
system
with
no
shear
walls
and
no
columns
so
along
the
exterior
wall,
the
glass
wall
facing
the
pool.
Can
you
describe
to
me
those
columns?
They
appear
to
be
about
two
inches
by
six
inches,
maybe
between
each
of
the
offsetting
glass
panels.
What
are
those.
Q
Yeah
they're
still
columns
and
working
with
our
structural
engineer.
We
have
tried
to
design
a
structure
that
appears
to
disappear
and
allows
the
throat
root
to
float.
So
this
is
the
minimum
structure
that
they've
calculated
and
the
the
actual
concrete
wall
is
needed
as
part
of
the
shear
system
of
the
building.
So
the
the
concrete,
the
the
steel
columns,
are
embedded
in
this
concrete
wall
along
the
east
side
of
the
building
and
they
all
perform
as
part
of
this
holistic
structure.
Q
So
it
is
tuned
and
any
changes
that
we
make
require
re-thinking
of
that
system.
It's
based
on
an
8-foot
grid.
Q
Everything
is
actually
based
on
a
forefoot
grid
in
this
project
to
be
as
efficient
as
possible.
Yeah
is
that
your
question
in.
A
Q
Yeah
or
it's
a
light
roof,
it's
it's
a
corrugated
metal
roof
with
roof,
roofing
and
insulation.
On
top,
our
our
engineer
has
from
the
get-go
of
the
project.
The
part
of
the
gymnastics
of
this
project
was
to
have
it
appear
to
be
as
light
as
possible
and
to
have
this
this
floating
roof
be
as
thin
and
light
as
possible.
I
mean
I
love.
A
A
Okay
in
the
roof
on
the
roof,
you
show
roof
drains
kind
of
in
the
middle
of
the
roof.
A
Q
They'll
they'll
be
the
pipes
will
be
hidden
within
the
ceiling
system
and
then
they'll
be
concealed
within
the
space
adjacent
to
the
fireplace.
So
there
will
be
a
chase.
There
is.
Q
Yes,
it's
it's.
The
plot.
There's
a
plywood
ceiling,
that's
dropped,
you
can.
You
can
see
it
better,
probably
in
some
of
the
renderings.
Let's
see.
Q
Maybe
the
rendering
looking
looking
southeast
number
three
on
801.
you
can
see.
You
can
see
that
light-colored,
wood
and
and
looking
east
again,
you
can
see
where
the
glass
meets
the
canopy.
You
can
see
that
there's
a
light
wood
tone
color
that
represents
the
the
drop
ceiling
condition.
A
The
lighting
you're,
showing
a
few,
can
light
not
cam
lights.
A
few
wall
mounted
lights
at
doorways.
Are
there
any
cans
in
the
ceiling
of
the
cantilevered
overhang
any.
G
Q
Q
All
of
that
is
beneath
the
slab
to
the
to
the
north
of
the
property
because
of
the
sloping
down
and
stepping
of
the
property
and
the
extension
of
the
deck
there's
a
space
below
that
allows
us
to
conceal
mechanical
equipment
and
pool
equipment
and
make
sure
that
it's
shielded
from
view
of
the
neighbors.
I'm.
Q
The
I
think,
if
you
go
to
drawing
yeah
four
two,
you
get
a
sense
of
that
yeah.
Okay,
the
the
site
is
sloping
from
the
east
to
the
west,
but
it's
also
sloping
from
the
south
to
the
north,
so
that
north
west
corner
is
the
low
it's
sloping
down
to
that.
So
it
starts
pretty
much
close
to
level
of
rim
road
at
that
north
or
south
southeast
corner
and
continually
slopes
to
the
north
west.
Q
So
we're
taking
advantage
of
that
slope
and
having
this
projecting
deck
and
being
able
to
conceal
that
equipment
below
there.
Okay,.
A
Q
Yeah,
so
so
what
what's
happening
there
is,
if
you
go
to,
if
you
go
to
the
let's
see
the
best
drawing
to
if
you,
if
you
go
to
drawing
a401
drawing
number
two
you'll
see
that
there's
a
step
down,
and
the
idea
is
that
there's,
the
galvanized
grading
serves
as
a
ceiling
for
that
condenser
unit
that
stepped
down
from
the
the
deck
proper
so
that
you're
getting
all
the
free
area.
That's
required
for
the
condenser
unit.
Okay,.
M
Yeah
hi
I'm
dan
fast
and
tom
o'brien.
We
live
right
across
the
street
from
the
proposed
project.
We
think
it's
a
beautiful
house.
We
we
think
it's
just
whatever
architectural.
You
know
modifications
need
to
be
made.
That's
that
seems
to
be
up
to
people
other
people.
We
think
it's
just
really
good
to
look
at
and
I
think
it'll
be
a
really
good
neighbor
and
we
look
forward
to
welcoming
you
know
bob
and
nick
to
to
the
neighborhood.
Our
concerns
are
about
access,
a
couple
of
things
and
drainage.
M
One
is
the
access
road
that's
shown
on
ae101
and
a102.
There
are
five
houses
on
that
access
road
and
we
had
assumed
I'm
not
sure
how
correctly
that
that
belonged
to
the
five
of
us
and
we
just
paid
to
have
it
repaved.
M
There
is
drainage
issues
when
it
does
rain
down
that
access
road,
because
it
does
slope
downhill
to
the
north,
and
there
is
a
drain
drainage
channel
right
under
the
proposed
driveway,
which
you
may
be
very
familiar
with.
My
one
of
our
concerns
is
that
water
would
be
diverted
away
from
that
natural
drainage
further
down
to
the
access
road
and
you
know,
create
a
flooding
problem
further
down
the
access
road.
M
Second
concern
about
the
access
road
is
that
there
are
five
houses
along
there
which
will
need
to
be
able
to
get
in
and
out.
You
know
pretty
regularly,
and
I
have
I
work
at
home,
so
I
have
people
coming
in
and
out.
You
know
pretty
much
all
day
or
at
least
half
the
day,
so
that
needs
to
be
considered.
Third
rim.
Road
is
fairly
narrow.
It
is
a
street
maintained
road.
M
However,
many
of
you
know
that
further
down
rim,
road
to
the
east,
it
is
private,
and
so
when
arabi
floods
during
the
winter,
then
rim
road
is
the
only
access
in
and
out
of
our
neighborhood
at
all.
M
And
so,
if
there
are
trucks
at
all
impeding
you
know,
traffic
up
and
down
rim
road,
you
will
have
a
lot
of
very
unhappy
neighbors
who
use
that
very
actively,
as
well
as
delivery,
trucks,
etc,
because
there's
only
two
roads
in
and
out
of
our
neighborhood,
something
which
just
came
to
mind
as
I
was
thinking
about.
This
is
reflection
from
sunset.
M
The
gary
disney
concert
hall
example
coming
to
mind
of
unintended
consequences
that
when
the
sun
sets
and
the
light
is
bouncing
off
of
what,
whichever
way
the
windows
face,
if
it
will
be,
you
know
reflected
into
the
two
houses
right
across
the
street.
It
may
not
be
very
serious
or
very
long,
but
that
may
be
an
inconvenience.
Our
house
doesn't
really
face
that
way.
So
it
may
not
be
an
issue.
I
think
those
are
all
of
our
issues
I
think
so
and
yeah.
M
The
other
is
that
you
know
we've
had
a
lot
of
people
coming
in
that
property's
changed
hands
at
least
three
times
in
the
four
years
we've
owned
it
a
lot
of
people
come
and
park
on
our
property
to
access.
You
know
2265
and
walk
around
there
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
our
access
is
really
preserved
along
the
property
line.
Q
Yeah
thanks
dan
and
and
I
appreciate
the
the
comments
about
the
architecture.
Thank
you
very
much.
We've
worked
really
hard
to
develop
this
this
project
and
we're
excited
about
it
and
bob
bob
and
nick
are
incredible,
like
I
worked
on
their
current
home
in
studio
and
they
are
really
conscientious
neighbors
and
the
the
idea
of
being
a
good
neighbor
is
part
and
parcel
of
their
work.
Q
So
I
I
think
you're
going
to
enjoy
having
them
as
as
neighbors
you've
raised
some
good
points,
especially
about
the
the
drainage,
and
we
have
thought
about
those
issues
and
we
understand
the
natural
drainage
along
the
access
road
and
when
we're
designing
the
driveway,
what
we've
done
is
we've
located,
we've
actually
sloped
the
drive
down,
and
then
the
carport
drive
slopes
down
as
well,
and
it
meets
a
trench
drain.
Q
So
all
the
water
will
go
down
into
a
french
drain
that
leads
to
that
swale
that
keeps
that
existing
hat
drainage
pattern
so
we're
very
aware
of
that
and
want
to
make
sure
that
the
natural
drainage
of
the
area
is
totally
maintained
in,
in
terms
of
you
mentioned
the
the
glass,
the
reflection
of
the
glass
there's,
a
large
canopy
that
projects
we've
done.
Q
Sun
studies
and
what
we've
tried
to
do
at
the
various
equinoxes
is
ensure
that
there
isn't
we've
minimized
the
amount
of
actual
sun
that
actually
is
able
to
reach
the
the
fenestration
for
performance
issues
as
well
for
environmental
performance
issues
and
hopefully
we'll
get
there
there's
still
a
little
bit
of
sun
at
the
summer.
Equinox
that
hits
the
south
west
portion
of
the
glass,
but
I
think
that'll
be
minimal.
Q
Q
If
this
chosen
contractor
is
part
of
the
team
he's
incredibly
thoughtful,
and-
and
this
is
what
we're
like
the
projects
that
I
do
with
bob-
it's
all
about
creating
a
team-
and
the
builder
is
part
of
that
team,
and
actually
we
consider
the
city
part
of
the
team,
and
I
I
think
that
you'll
find
no
no
issues
with
this
particular
contract
or
the
contractor.
A
Q
A
Carla
now
are
there
any
other
questions
from
the
committee
for
the
applicant
for
mr
parente.
H
D
John
mccoy,
I'm
good,
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
great.
I
would
thank
you
with
your
comments.
G
John
walsh,
yeah,
I
you
know,
I
think
it's
intriguing
sites
like
that,
always
catch
the
attention
of
architects
and
because
it's
sort
of
like
you,
you've,
taken
lemons
and
made
it
into
lemonade
it.
It
is
the
last
the
last
parcel
to
sort
of
be
developed.
A
couple
things
that
I
think
tom
is
cautioning.
Chairman
jakeway,
with
respect
to
you've
got
two
things
that
are
are
forced
limits
on
you.
G
One
is
a
it's
a
an
extremely
tight
site,
you're,
absolutely
down
to
the
inch
down
to
the
eighth
of
an
inch
and
then
the
second
is
the
building
system
itself.
It's
very
unforgiving,
so
you
know
we
wish
you
well
with
it
and
want
to
see
it
come
to
a
successful
fruition,
but
I
think
it
will
carry
with
it
challenges
and
and
expense,
and
you
know,
but
but
from
from
an
architectural
standpoint,
it
is
intriguing
and
attractive.
A
Thank
you
steven
anything.
H
Nope,
I
just
echo
other
comments
gorgeous.
You
know.
I
think
it's
really
it'll
be
a
special
piece
in
the
valley,
but
again
I
would
also
recommend
going
to
you
know
finding
a
title
24
engineer
as
fast
as
you
can,
because
that's
going
to
be
a
big
factor
in
getting
this
thing.
D
A
A
Okay,
item
number
seven:
I
do
want
to
note
that
mr
lockyer
has
asked
to
be
recused
from
this
particular
item.
Even
though
he's
not
here,
he
also
did
want
to
recuse
himself
from
this
item.
O2
architecture,
on
behalf
of
mike
flannery,
for
a
major
architectural
application
to
construct
a
five
thousand
nine
hundred
and
seven
square
foot
single
family
residence
with
the
maximum
building
height
of
twenty
four
feet.
On
a
thirty
one
thousand
three
hundred
and
sixty
three
square
foot
hillside
parcel
located
at
seven
seven,
five
west
vistacino
road
staff
report.
Please,
yes,.
I
The
project
site
is
a
standard
sized
hillside
law
in
the
little
tuscany
neighborhood
and
science
topographies
down
from
its
northwest
corner
to
south
east
corner.
The
elevation
difference
between
the
highest
and
the
lowest
point
is
approximately
21
feet,
and
these
are
the
images
of
the
site
surroundings,
landscape.
I
The
project
site
is
adjacent
to
existing
single
family
residencies
on
all
sides,
and
this
is
just
to
show
the
view
are
taking
from
the
project
site,
and
this
is
the
proposed
design
family
residence.
Excuse
me,
the
lot
size
is
31
363
square
feet
and
the
purple's
residence
is
hundred
and
seven
square
feet.
The
law
coverage
is
approximately
eighteen
point.
Two
percent.
I
The
project
proposes
a
two-story
construction
with
a
maximum
building
height
of
twenty
four
feet,
and
africa
is
also
proposing
a
ten
foot
front
yard
setback
and
that
applicant
has
submitted
an
administrative,
minor
modification
to
request
deviations
from
this
requirement
for
building
height
and
a
front
yard
setback.
I
This
is
a
proposed
site
design.
The
site
is
accessible
from
china,
canyon,
road
by
a
driveway
which
leads
to
at
the
garage
and
a
parking
area,
and
just
to
show
how
the
property
will
look
like
and
access
will
be,
the
particularly
the
the
image
at
the
bottom.
This
is
the
view
taken
from
the
the
chino
canyon
drive
side.
As
I
mentioned,
the
driveway
leads
to
a
parking
area
and
you
see
the
two-story
construction
in
the
mid
portion
of
the
purpose
of
residence.
I
I
And
for
post
construction
materials
include
plaster
walls,
expanding
the
structured
steel,
a
sea,
metal
facade
system
and
horizontal
expensive
grazing
area,
and
this
is
a
view
taking
from
the
other
south
elevation
and
the
image
below
is
a
waste
elevation.
I
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
second
portion
will
be
limited
to
the
other
central
portion
of
the
purple
resistance,
and
that
excuse
me,
this
is
just
to
show
the
cross
section.
The
project
will
incorporate
a
retaining
wall
and
the
residence
will
sit
on
the
rather
flat
area
and
leads
to
the
lower
innovation.
I
When
the
staff
sent
out
the
hillside
project
notification
letters,
we
did
receive
our
feedback
from
a
few
residents
in
the
neighborhood.
The
one
of
the
concerns
presented
by
the
adjacent
residents
is
the
obstruction
of
the
proposed
two-story
construction
staff
would
like
to
report
that,
in
terms
of
a
finished
floor,
let's
measure
that
the
json
properties
of
691.10.
I
Whereas
the
proposed
finish
flow
is
about
693,
so
the
difference
in
terms
of
fish
floor
between
this
project
will
be
about
1.9
feet
and
the
eye
level
is
usually
about
five
feet
above
the
finished
floor.
So
the
stuff
finds
that
the
visual
impact
will
be
it's
insignificant
and
then
also
other
comments.
That's
received
from
the
nearby
residents
is
the
the
privacy
concern
of
the
two-story
construction
looking
into
the
property.
I
That's
looking
to
the
south,
and
this
is
the
the
landscape
plan
that
african
provided
africa
is
proposing
to
retain
a
most
of
the
natural
hillside
landscape
and
notes
that
there
is
an
existing
landscape
along
the
south,
a
property
line
which
will
be
sufficient
to
provide
adequate
screening
to
the
json
property.
I
The
stuff
finds
that
the
chimney,
which
extends
projects
above
the
roof
design
appears
a
little
detached
from
the
rest
of
the
design
and
the
exterior
lighting
design
has
not
been
finalized
at
this
point,
therefore,
south
recommends
heresy
to
provide
a
comments
in
direction
to
recommend
re-study,
particularly
because
of
the
two-story
construction.
That
does
not
really
follow
the
site's
topography.
I
A
Thank
you,
noriko
committee
questions
of
staff.
A
I
have
a
question
of
rick
in
engineering.
The
bottom
corner
of
this
site
touches
a
cul-de-sac
on
tuscan
road.
When
I
drove
out
to
the
site,
the
neighbor
has
put
a
private
gate
across
tuscan
road
and
incorporated
the
cul-de-sac
into
their
front
yard.
So
this
cl
this
applicant
would
no
longer
have
access
to
tuscan
road.
Has
that
cul-de-sac
been
deeded
to
the
neighbor.
D
The
I
did
look
into
this.
The
cul-de-sac
was
a
long
time
ago
when
the
properties
were
created,
the
tuscan
road
was
offered
for
dedication
as
a
public
road
and
then
later
on
after
the
county,
the
city
did
not
accept
it
as
a
public
road.
So
it
is
a
private
road.
D
P
Yeah,
thank
you
chairman,
jake
way
and
committee.
Thank.
P
You
know
it's
been
a
long
evening,
I'm
lance
o'donnell
from
o2
architecture
enrico.
Can
you
pull
up
the
site
plan
and
we'll
just
take
you
guys
through
the
design
ideas
and
how
we
got
to
the
concepts
that
we
came
up
with.
P
Can
you
yeah
blow
that
up
so
one
of
the
things
that
one
notices
along
chino
canyon
road
is
the
large
right-of-way
between
the
paved
portion
of
the
road
and
where
the
property
line
is
so,
the
property
line
sits
quite
a
ways
back
from
the
paved
portion
of
chino
canyon,
road,
which
is
typical
of
this.
These
hillside
areas,
where,
when
the
roads
were
built,
somebody
sent
a
bulldozer
up
the
road
they
pushed
all
of
the
rocks
onto
one
side
of
the
right-of-way
and
and
then
paved
the
other.
The
other
part.
P
So
everybody
on
chino
canyon
road
shares
this
additional
buffer,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
knew
when
I
lived
in
the
neighborhood
was
that
the
rural
character
and
feel
is
why
people
love
to
live
there.
The
narrow
roads,
the
feeling
of
being
in
a
rural
environment
with
a
lot
of
open
space
and
a
lot
of
the
natural
character
of
the
desert.
So
we
started
with
this
idea
of
maintaining
as
much
of
the
natural
character
as
possible,
and
you
can
see
that
we
have
18
percent
lot
coverage
with
our
structures.
P
So
that
means
the
fauna
and
flora
and
rocks
that
are
there
today
being
augmented
with
our
landscaping,
is
going
to
look
a
lot
like
what
what
this
area
has
always
has
always
looked
like
and
the
feel
of
what
this
area
looks
like.
We
did
ask
for
a
reduction
in
front
yard,
setback
to
10
feet
and
with
this
additional
right-of-way
buffer
from
chino
canyon,
road
into
the
site.
You
can
see
that
that
is
something
that
works
really
well
with
the
motor
court.
The
side
approach,
garage,
there's,
there's
really
no
hazard
or
or
safety
issues.
P
All
residents
coming
here.
The
homeowner
will
head
in
we'll
drive
in
directly
and
when
they
drive
out,
they
won't
be
backing
onto
chino
canyon
road,
but
they
will
be
driving
forward
out
onto
chino
canyon
road.
P
The
other
thing
that
we
did
looking
at
the
neighboring
properties
was
we
pushed
the
home
away
from
the
western
property
line.
So
there's
a
10
foot
required
side
yard
setback
on
the
west,
which
is
the
left
we're
at
at
the
closest
down
at
the
bedroom
in
the
southwest
corner,
we're
21
feet
and
we're
generally
25
feet
to
the
structure.
P
P
So
what's
the
mass
of
that
second
story
is
pulled
way
into
the
property,
and
then
you
see
from
the
renders
in
the
elevations
that
on
any
of
the
adjacent
sides,
where
somebody
is
uphill
from
us,
there
are
no
windows
and
we're
planning
to
have
no
exterior
lighting.
P
So
it's
the
facade
on
the
west
and
the
facade
on
the
north
is
completely
private.
Both
viewing
views
from
our
homeowner.
Looking
out
of
the
second
story.
There
are
no
views
to
the
north
and
there's
no
views
to
the
west,
and
it
should
be
a
very
dark
and
quiet
elevation
on
both
of
those
sides.
Noriko.
If
you
can
go
to
the
site
section
that
showed
the
sight
line
from
the
neighbor's
house
and
I'm
putting
particular
emphasis
on
this.
P
Just
because
there
were
a
couple
of
notes
that
came
from
the
neighbor
uphill,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
in
the
committee
and
everybody
on
city
staff
knows
what
we
were
attempting
to
do
here.
So
the
profile
of
the
second
story,
as
we
can
see
here,
the
red
lines
show
somebody
standing
at
about
a
five
foot
eye
height
on
the
finish
floor
of
the
resident
immediately
to
the
west.
P
P
30
foot
wide
profile
of
the
second
story
of
of
the
180
degree
view
that
one
would
have
from
up
above
it
takes
out
about
15
degrees
of
that
180
degree
view
and,
as
you
can
see,
from
the
red
line,
somebody
standing
up
is
looking
actually
over
the
top
of
the
roof,
which
brings
up
a
couple
of
concerns
that
we
would
have
as
well,
which
are.
Is
there
anything,
reflective
or
glary
or
otherwise
offensive
on
that
roof?
P
We
did
propose
to
put
the
solar
panels
up
there,
but
in
discussions
with
the
design
team,
we
can
move
the
solar
panels
off
that
roof.
So
there
are
no
offending
glare
situations
that
might
occur
at
sunrise
or
between
sunrise
and
say,
8
30
in
the
morning
when
the
sun's
coming
up
in
the
east.
P
So
I
did
want
to
contrast
this
by
a
right
of
zone
proposal.
So
if
we
just
came
in
and
said
we're
going
to
build
a
house
on
the
minimum
setback
and
we're
going
to
use
standards
that
nobody
would
question,
in
other
words
they're
baked
into
the
zoning
code-
and
this
wouldn't
even
be
a
public
hearing,
this
would
have
been
something
that,
because
it's
hillside,
we
would
have
had
to
go
through
this
process,
but
it
would
have
been
perhaps
on
the
consent
calendar.
P
So
if
we
go
to
the
minimum
setback-
and
we
stick
at
the
existing
finished
floor
level
that
we
have
for
both
the
lanai
and
the
lower
level
here,
we
would
go
up
12
feet
at
the
minimum
setback
and
then
at
a
three
to
one
slope,
we
could
go
up
to
18
feet
the
profile
and
I'm
sorry.
I
don't
have
a
diagram
to
show
this,
but
the
profile
would
be
essentially
what
we
have
here
be
within
18
inches
of
the
blocking
of
the
view
that
we're
getting
with
the
second
story.
P
P
P
We
would
have
every
right
to
do
that
project
and
so
what
I'm
trying
to
demonstrate
by
contrasting
what
somebody
could
do
without
much
review
or
thought
or
or
or
particular
design,
would
be
to
design
something
that
would
be
completely
blocking
views
for
a
much
much
greater
extent.
P
So
what
we've
chosen
to
do
push
the
house
to
the
east
make
the
second
story
element
without
any
windows
without
any
privacy
issues,
and
then
what
we
want
to
do
is
we
want
to
landscape
between
the
two
properties
so
that
it
is
a
pleasant
view
both
from
our
property
and
from
the
neighbor
above
they
don't
want
to
be
looking
down
at
the
roof,
and
we
all
know
that
roots
get
dirty.
This
will
be
a
single-ply
membrane.
Roof
it'll
be
not
an
offending
or
bright
color,
but
it's
still
over
time.
F
P
What
we
feel
is
a
very
neighborly
situation
between
these
two
homes.
There
was
also
some
concern
brought
up
about
privacy
to
the
south
enrico.
Can
you
go
to
one
of
the
aerial
views,
please
one
that
shows
the
more
of
a
context.
I
think
it's
a
google
earth
view
if
you
have
one
so
in
this
view
here
in
the
in
the
left-hand
view,
we
see
that
there's
mature
landscaping
that
that
landscaping
is
part
and
parcel
to
living
in
this
area.
If,
when
we're
developing
a
home
here
in
the.
L
P
Or
40s
the
wind
and
the
environment,
because
there
was
very
little
development,
would
have
been
very
harsh
now.
There's
the
desert
water
agency,
water
tanks
with
their
landscaping,
which
tends
to
filter
and
slow
down
the
wind,
but
there's
a
lot
of
mature
landscaping
both
to
the
west
of
our
project,
all
along
the
west.
There's
an
existing
power
pole,
that's
there
as
well
and
then
to
the
south
and
the
neighbor
that
has
a
swimming
pool,
there's
very
lush
and
deep
landscaping.
P
This
site
should
be
much
like
it
is
today
with
you
know,
obviously,
a
new
architectural
home
on
it,
but
with
lots
of
open
space
to
to
enjoy
both
for
view
protection
of
the
neighbors
and
just
for
the
common
open
space
and
relief
that
exists
today
on
that
site.
A
My
question
is
kind
of
a
comment.
I
totally
get
what
you're
talking
about
on
the
second
floor,
with
no
fenestration
facing
north
or
west.
However,
I
think
it
makes
those
building
facades
so
sterile
and
especially
when
they're
covered
in
metal
and
when
we
look
at
the
front
elevation
the
upper
floor.
The
metal
cladding
on
the
upper
floor
is
taller
than
the
plastered
wall
of
the
lower
floor.
A
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
would
consider
or
investigate
some
sort
of
penetrations
in
this
wall
and
maybe
not
even
windows,
but
something
where
it's
not
just
a
continuous
straight
wall
of
metal.
Maybe
some
clear
story,
maybe
something
to
just
soften
that
elevation.
P
Yeah
we
that
that
it's
a
good
suggestion
so
animating
that
wall
a
little
bit
more,
giving
some
relief
to
both
the
verticality
and
adding
adding
some
features
in
there
yeah.
We
yeah
we'd
be
pleased
to
explore
that.
C
H
P
The
next
location
that
we
found
so
we
work
with
hot
purple,
energy,
the
local
solar
provider.
They've
worked
with
us
for
over
15
years
and
well,
that's
that's
a
little
bit
exact
about
12
years
and
we've
perfected.
This
really
low
slope
system,
where
there's
about
two
inches
to
two
and
a
half
inches
between
the
front
of
the
panel
and
the
back
of
the
panel.
P
So
we
would
put
them
flat
on
the
garage
and
or
on
top
of
the
guest
casita
we'd
have
to
pull
them
pretty
far
back
so
that
december
21st,
the
winter
solstice
we
weren't
shading
them
unnecessarily,
but
we've
looked
at
it
quickly
and
we
think
either
the
garage
or
the
casita.
Both
work.
H
P
Yeah
yeah,
no,
that's
yeah!
That's
a
good
question
as
well.
That
is
the
flu.
That's
coming
from
the
fireplace
on
the
lanai,
so
we're
having
to
weave
that
up
through
the
second
floor
element,
we've
looked
at
a
design
where
we
can
eliminate
the
flu
completely
and
we
can
recirculate
the
heat
out
into
the
open
space
of
the
lanai
without
having
that
flu
up
there
so
we'd
be
happy
and
pleased
to
make
that
thing
go
away.
A
P
Know,
that's
that's
one
of
those
alcohol
burning,
so
there's
no
combustion
air.
Nor
is
there
a
need
to
get
rid
of
the
the
hot
gases.
K
So
my
husband
howie
he's
on
the
the
line
as
well.
We
are
the
house
at
1725,
north
tuscan,
the
house
directly
south
and
given
the
elevation
of
the
lot
and
the
second
story,
we're
really
worried
about
the
effect
on
our
privacy.
K
If
you
go
out
and
stand
in
our
yard,
the
lot
behind
us,
where
this
house
will
be
developed,
is
higher
in
elevation
and
then
adding
a
second
story.
It's
going
to
stare
directly
down
into
the
room
that
is
our
bedroom
and
our
yard
and
pool
area.
There
is
some
existing
landscaping,
but
that's
something
else.
We
need
to
talk
with
the
owners
about
as
trees
that
border
our
pool
area
completely
wreck
our
pool
the
entire
spring
because
of
the
foliage
that's
on
them.
K
It
comes
directly
into
our
yard,
so
those
do
need
to
be
removed,
and
so
I
we
wanted
to
raise
that
concern
because
I
feel
like
our
privacy
with
that.
Second
story
will
completely
be
gone,
and
I
know
there's
been
a
lot
of
attention
lance
that
you
gave
to
blocking
the
view
of
the
properties
above,
but
I
don't
feel
like
our
privacy's
been
taken
into
consideration
because
it
will
be
completely
evaporated
with
the
second
story.
So
we
think
some
additional
consideration
needs
to
be
given
to
having
a
second
story
on
the
house.
K
C
Thanks,
I
think,
first
of
all,
I
think
it's
a
beautiful
house,
the
design.
I
think
it
would
look
perfect
in
desert
palisades,
so
you
know-
and
you
mentioned,
that
there
was
consideration
given
to
the
east
and
the
west
with
no
windows
on
either
side
but
from
where
we
sit,
it's
nothing
but
windows.
C
So
I
don't
think
there
was
a
lot
of
consideration
there
and
yeah
carly's
point
about
those
about
the
trees
lance.
I
think
you
use
the
word
lush
it's
a
subjective
term.
I
don't
know
if
I'd
call
the
landscape
lush
that
is
currently
in
place
so
yeah.
Those
are
our
concerns.
A
C
K
Only
privacy,
I
think,
comes
from
some
landscaping.
We
currently
have
and
then
some
trees,
which
adversely
affect
our
property
for
a
good
chunk
of
the
season
every
year,
which
need
to
be
dealt
with
a
separate
issue.
B
C
C
I
wanted
to
state
that
I
don't
really
know
what
the
effect
on
our
property
we're
at
1700
north
tuscan
will
be.
I'm
not
sure
there
will
be
any
effect
from
the
second
story,
but
we've
never
really
looked
at
that.
We
are
at
about
the
same
level
as
how
we
and
carly
in
terms
of
geographically.
C
So
I
don't.
We
don't
have
quite
the
same
privacy
issue,
although
I
really
support
their
concerns
about
privacy
in
general,
because
this
street
offers
maximum
privacy
to
those
on
the
street
and
around
this
street.
So
I
do
want
to
you
know,
support
their
view
on
it.
I
don't
think
we
have
a
privacy
issue
other
than
maybe
on
our
driveway,
but
that
may
take
some
further
reflection.
B
A
Okay,
lance.
Do
you
have
your
rebuttal.
P
P
So
we're
showing
at
the
southern
boundary
here
just
a
conceptual
idea
of
something
green,
and
I
know
our
client
you
know-
wants
to
be
a
good
neighbor
as
well,
so
we
can
work
with
drought,
tolerant
landscaping
that
would
be
on
our
property
maintained
on
our
side.
P
P
On
the
second
floor
right
now,
the
homeowners
there's
just
two
people
in
the
family,
so
it
I
I
can
imagine
there'll,
be
lots
of
activity
on
the
lanai
level
and
in
and
around
the
pool,
but
activity
and
privacy.
On
the
second
floor,
you
know:
well,
while
it's
there,
there
is
a
deck
there.
P
I
think
we
all
moved
to
the
desert
to
enjoy
the
sun,
so
those
windows
facing
the
neighbor
to
the
south
are
facing
south,
so
they're,
letting
the
sunlight
in
the
home
is
working
as
a
passive
solar
home.
So
low
energy
use
it's
turning
its
back
on
the
prevailing
wind
so
that
the
outdoor
areas
are
usable
all
year
round,
particularly
march
april,
when
we
get
those
really
strong
winds.
P
So
I
just
know
that
the
southern
sun
and
protection
from
those
winds
is
where
the
most
comfort
and
the
most
use
of
outdoor
spaces
occur.
So
I
think
if
we
looked
at
homes
all
in
this
neighborhood,
most
of
them
are
turning
their
back
to
the
wind
and
turning
their
face
to
the
sun,
which
is
what
we're
doing
so.
P
We
just
want
to
let
everybody
know
that
we'll
work
with
folks
and
if
aac
or
aarc
wants
to
condition
the
project
to
have
a
healthy,
drought-tolerant,
landscape,
buffer
of
mesquite
or
palo
verde,
probably
even
better,
less
messy
along
that
southern
along
that
yeah
southern
edge
of
our
property
and
then
ribbing
the
cul-de-sac,
as
shown
we're
more
than
happy
to
do
that,
and
then.
F
No,
I
I
think
it's
a
nice
project.
I
I
I
like
your
suggestion
about
animating
the
second
floor
on
the
north
side.
I
I
you
know,
I'm
I
understand
the
reason
for
the
second
floor.
I
just
it's
such
a
big
lot.
It
just
seems
like
there
might
be
another
way
to
do
this
and.
F
Not
have
that
second
floor
and
really
honor
the
privacy.
You
know
it
seems
like
you're
having
to
go
through
a
lot
of
machinations
to
preserve
privacy
for
the
neighbors,
and
it's
all
because
of
the
second
story,
and
if
there
was
a
you
know
way
to
redesign
this
without
the
second
floor,
you
would
have
you
probably
wouldn't
have
to
go
through
all
this,
so
otherwise
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
very
handsome
project.
G
You
know
I,
the
the
logic
of
robert
rotman
is,
is
kind
of
crystal
clear.
I
think
with
the
second
story,
you
end
up,
creating
a
problem
that
you
then
have
to
solve,
and
one
of
the
drivers
in
terms
of
the
design
is,
is
a
heightened
sensitivity
of
privacy
and
view
control
and
yeah.
G
A
whole
bunch
of
problems
would
just
go
away
if,
if
there
wasn't
the
need
for
the
second
story-
and
it
is
such
a
generous
site-
that
it's
kind
of
hard
to
advance
the
case
that
that
that
is
needed
for
space
planning
issues
or
any
sort
of
tightness
anywhere.
That's
yeah.
H
I
I
can't
add
anything
additional.
I
think
I
agree
with
the
concept
of
you
know.
The
the
second
story
is
problematic
and
the
side
is
large,
so
I'm
wondering
you
know
as
a
you
know,
if
they
want
to
keep
the
second
story,
I
think
you
know
we
need
to
look
at.
You
know,
story,
polls
or
something
to
understand
a
little
bit
better.
H
You
know
what
we're
what
we're
talking
about
in
terms
of
blocking
views,
because
I
think
there
there
is
an
issue
with
the
up
the
neighbor
to
the
to
the
to
the
west.
D
H
A
Thank
you
to
kind
of
echo
robert's
comments,
I'll
I'll,
tell
a
personal
experience
that
I
built
a
home
for
myself
in
the
mesa
and
very
similar
to
this,
and
there
was
a
the
second
story:
master
bedroom
suite.
G
I
think
it's
there
has
been
to
me
clear
feedback
in
terms
of
it
would
be
a
focused
rest
study
to
respond
to
the
the
comments
here.
H
R
I'll
go
ahead
and
address
that,
so
the
park
was
tentatively
scheduled
to
open
at
the
end
of
this
month,
which
is
tomorrow,
and
it's
not
going
to
be
quite
ready
for
that.
The
contractor
still
has
a
number
of
punch
list
items
to
complete,
but
we
do
expect
it
to
be
open
within
about
the
next
six
weeks
or
so.
D
A
D
R
What
I
would
just
like
to
report
on
the
parklet
subcommittee,
as
you
may
be
aware,
two
of
our
architectural
review
committee
members
were
appointed
to
serve
on
the
parklet
work
group,
that
was
member
thompson
and
also
member
docey,
and
I
really
appreciate
the
efforts
of
both
of
them
to
attend
the
meetings,
provide
information
and
comments
and
to
help
steer
the
work
group
in
the
appropriate
direction.
So
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
both
of
those
members
for
attending
the
meetings
and
for
diligently
being
involved
in
that
process.
R
What
we
are
proposing
as
part
of
the
development
of
design
guidelines
for
parklets
moving
forward
is
that
I
will
continue
to
have
a
subcommittee
of
arc
members
who
will
help
advise
staff
on
approving
applications
for
parklets.
I
would
like
to
request
that
mr
thompson
and
mr
dosey
continue
in
that
role.
If
they
don't
object
to
that,
and
we
might
want
another
alternate
member
to
serve
on
that
subcommittee
as
well.
What
I
anticipate
is
that
we
will
be
reviewing
parklet
applications
between
now
and
through
the
end
of
the
year.
R
If
city
council
does
adopt
the
guidelines
on
september
9th
as
scheduled,
the
parklets
as
we've
currently
have
the
design
guidelines
would
require
the
applications
to
come
to
a
full
body
of
the
architectural
review
committee.
Only
if
waivers
are
requested
and
those
waivers
would
be
either
from
the
limits
on
shade
structures
where
there
may
be
impacts
to
adjacent
businesses
or
else
where
an
applicant
is
requesting
to
extend
the
parklet
in
front
of
an
adjacent
property.
R
Those
would
be
reviewed
at
a
regular
meeting
of
the
arc,
so
would
not
require
any
additional
meetings
of
the
arc
in
order
to
take
any
action
on
waivers.
So
that
is
basically
a
summary
of
the
partly
situation
again,
thank
you
to
members,
thompson
and
dosie
for
serving
on
that.
I
will
ask
for
their
continued
indulgence
and
also
the
indulgence
of
the
arc
moving
forward.
So
with
that,
you
have
to
answer
any
questions.
Yeah.
H
R
H
That
sort
of
brings
me
to
a
question,
so
it
seems,
like
most
of
the
restaurants
have
abandoned
those
parklets.
You
know,
as
I
drive
down
the
boulevard,
almost
all
of
them
are
completely
empty
or,
and
just
you
know,
empty
tables
and
chairs
sitting
in
the
street.
Now
so
is
there
sort
of
a
formal
plan
to
wind
some
of
those
down
and
eliminate
the
k
rails
and
as
well
the
other
one
I'm
I'd
really
like
to
see
is
arenas
reopened.
R
Yes,
there
is
a
formal
plan
for
both
of
those
items,
starting
first
with
arenas.
We
expect
the
street
to
be
open
september
1st
or
soon
thereafter,
one
of
the
parklets
on
arenas
has
already
been
removed.
We're
working
with
the
business
owner
on
the
reconfiguration
of
the
second
parklet,
so
arenas
will
be
open
shortly
right
in
terms
of
the
parklets
that
appear
to
be
abandoned.
At
the
moment,
we
will
have
a
timeline
for
phasing
any
parklets
out
where
the
owner
is
not
going
to
continue
that
use.
R
That
does
include
the
section
of
south
palm
canyon,
where
the
street
narrows
down
to
two
lanes:
you'll
notice
that
some
of
the
parklets
extend
out
into
the
lane
of
traffic
they'll
need
to
be
reconfigured,
so
we
can
open
back
up
to
three
lanes
of
traffic
again.
So
there
is
a
plan
and
a
timeline
that
we
will
implement
as
part
of
the
approval
process
for
the
design
guidelines.
C
A
R
Okay,
the
work
group
had
their
last
meeting
on
wednesday
of
last
week,
I'm
in
the
process
of
finalizing
their
comments
and
recommendations.
Reviewing
that
with
the
city
attorney,
I
should
have
it
by
the
end
of
this
week.
It
will
be
published
as
part
of
the
city
council
agenda.