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C
A
B
A
Does
the
board
have
any
revisions
to
the
agenda
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
then
to
accept
the
agenda?
May
I
have
a
second
I
have
a
first
by
a
member
of
account
and
a
second
by
member
Dixon.
Any
further
discussion,
all
in
favor,
say
aye.
Any
opposed
motion
carries
7
to
0.
We
will
now
move
on
to
public
comments.
A
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
Stork
site,
Preservation
Board
on
agenda
items
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
board,
although
the
historic
site,
Preservation
Board,
values
your
comments
pursuant
to
the
Brown
Act,
it
generally
cannot
take
any
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
There
will
be
three
minutes
assigned
for
each
speaker.
Testimony
for
public
hearings
will
be
taken
at
the
time
of
the
hearing.
Do
we
have
anyone
wishing
to
address
the
board
today
on
non
public
hearing
items?
A
A
A
A
A
F
Good
morning,
mr.
chair
and
board,
this
is
an
application
for
a
class
1
designation
of
the
home
located
at
2821,
Liv
Moore.
As
noted
in
your
staff
report
and
in
the
historic
resources
survey.
This
building
was
designed
by
architects,
Donald,
Wexler
and
Rick
Harrison,
and
it
is
recognized
as
one
of
the
model
homes
in
the
some
more
subdivision
that
was
done
in
1950s.
F
The
home
is
a
smaller
three-bedroom,
modest,
mid-century,
home
of
post-and-beam
construction.
It's
in
very
good
condition.
Those
of
you
that
did
take
the
tour
on
it.
You
did.
There
were
a
few
things
that
have
been
added
to
this
home
over
time
that
are
non-contributing.
Those
includes
the
carport
garage
gate
and
I.
Just
realized.
I
haven't
moved
this
thing
in
to
beg
your
pardon
here,
get
us
going
here
on
our
slide
presentations.
F
So
this
is
the
home
the
top
picture.
There
is
the
front
of
the
home
as
the
street
side
and,
of
course,
the
lower
elevation,
the
back
side
of
the
home
by
the
pool,
as
you
can
see,
on
both
elevations
the
home,
is
post-and-beam
in
its
construction.
The
item
that
I
was
beginning
to
mention
there
in
terms
of
non-contributing
is
the
glass
screen
wall
that
you
see
there
toward
the
right
in
the
upper
photo.
F
The
home
is
oops.
Thank
you.
Pardon
the
home
is
characteristic
of
the
mid-century
design
that
Wexler
and
Harrison
became
noted
for
including
the
very
broad
overhangs
that
shield
the
windows
from
this
intense
Desert
Sun
the
very
deep
profile,
board-and-batten
siding
on
the
front
of
the
home,
which
gives
it
a
very
rich
and
heavy
texture.
You
can
see
the
clerestory
windows
there
in
the
left
picture,
just
above
the
siding,
the
casement
windows
and
these
homes.
F
This
particular
home
has
a
very
distinctive
mullion
pattern,
where
the
stops
that
hold
the
window
protrude
slightly
from
the
face
of
the
columns
and
beams
giving
a
nice
shadow
line,
there
were
some
deferred
maintenance
issues
that
was
identified.
There
are
some
there
is
some
beams
and
some
wiring,
and
so
on
that
if
the
homeowner
decides
to
go
forward
with
this,
and
it
does
receive
historic,
designation,
they'll
want
to
be
addressing
these
things
through
their
potential
for
a
Mills
act
application.
F
So
the
quality
qualifications
under
criteria
that
this
home
exemplifies
is
criterion
3,
that
exemplifies
the
post-world
War
two
period
in
Palm,
Springs
history.
It
exemplifies
or
embodies
the
distinct
characteristics
of
the
post
and
beam
style
of
construction,
and
it
presents
the
work
of
master
architects,
Wexler
and
Harrison
on
page
excuse
me.
F
Six
of
your
report
is
the
analysis
of
the
homes
integrity.
As
we've
noted
all
of
the
home
has
very
significant
and
I
level
of
integrity.
There
have
been
some
windows
changed,
but
they're
minor
and
the
items
of
course,
with
the
patio
cover
on
the
back
of
the
home
and
the
I
have
a
picture
of
that
here.
F
Maybe
not
there
we
go
so
these
are
the
non
contributing
creatures
that
are
gate,
that's
gone
across
the
front
of
the
carport,
the
glass
privacy
wall
and
then
the
carport
gate
with
and
the
mural
and
the
steel
canopy
on
the
back.
F
C
Chair
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
If
you
go
back
to
the
slide,
where
you're
saying
that
they
should
make
some
repairs
in
the
future,
this
one,
what
what
is
the
recommended
change
to
the
third
picture,
where
you
see
all
the
electrical?
If
that's
is
that
I
mean
I'm,
assuming
that's
the
original
hookup
and
everything
well.
F
What
we
believe
is
that
it's
the
original
hookup
with
about
50
or
60
years
of
accumulation
of
alarm
panels,
systems
various
types
of
the
security
camera
that
you
see
there
in
the
middle
camera,
there's
a
lot
of
wire
and
extraneous
material.
That's
dangling
around
on
that
part
of
the
house
and
in
some
other
parts
of
the
house,
as
you
can
see
in
the
middle
photo.
So
our
recommendation
is
that
any
of
that
that
can
be
cleaned
up
should
be
cleaned
up.
C
A
A
A
H
H
Remodeled
in
any
shape
or
form,
and
so
it
was
an
opportunity.
However,
we
did
not
realize
that
it
was
a
Wechsler
Harrison.
It
had
not
been
marketed
that
way.
So
the
first
thing
I
do
when
I
start
to
evaluate
a
property,
is
draw
it
and
as
I
was
drawing
this
house
I
realized
that
there
was
a
great
deal
of
deliberate
design
intent
with
this
this
home,
and
so
as
everything
laid
out
on
an
8-foot
grid,
it
made
perfect
sense
and
then
it
was
time
to
do
the
research.
H
I
Do
you
know
when
the
glass
wall
in
front
the
frosted
glass
wall
in
front
was
at
it?
Yes,.
H
I
designed
that-
and
we
added
that
in
2010-
and
it
was
based
on
the
grid
that
was
established
by
the
Wechsler
Harrison
plan
and
one
of
the
reasons
we
did.
That
was
to
preserve
the
integrity
of
the
original
windows
in
the
house,
so
that
we
did
not
have
to
put
up
window
coverings
and
that
we
could
obtain
privacy
from
the
street.
H
A
That
would
have
been
interesting
to
have
to
talk
to
have
seen.
Okay,
anyone
else.
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
nomination.
We
greatly
appreciate
it
and,
in
your
insight
as
well.
Thank
you.
So
is
there
anyone
else
wishing
to
speak
on
this
public
hearing
item,
seeing
none
I
will
close
the
public
hearing.
The
action
is
now
with
the
board.
Your
comments
and
questions.
Please.
I
Yes,
sir
I
found
my
question
it
when
I,
when
I
walked
up
to
the
house.
What
I?
What
I
saw
was
this
frosted
glass
wall
and
not
the
house
and
then
I
went
through
that
gate.
It
was
sort
of
like
this
marvelous,
transparent
house
opened
up
so
I.
Consider
the
the
screen
wall
and
I
understand
completely.
Why
it's
there
standing
in
the
living
room,
but
it
really
detracts
from
the
nomination.
I
It
detracts
from
the
public's
perception
of
what
the
house
is
and
what
it
could
be
or
what
it
was
and
I
would
recommend
its
removal
as
part
of
the
nomination.
The
other
additions
in
the
back
I
think
are
minor
in
that
they're.
Not
in
again
in
the
public
view,
they
are
very
much
in
keeping
with
the
style
of
the
house.
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D
D
A
G
Yeah
I'm
not
I,
have
no
issue
with
the
wall.
I
think
it's
it's
bit.
It
protects
the
house
from
it's
a
privacy
wall,
which
is
what
we
have
come
to
know
these
days.
I
think
she
did
a
beautiful
job
in
restoring
it.
I
think
the
house
itself
being
a
Wexler
Harris
and
the
son
more
neighborhood
plays
an
interesting
role
in
the
history
of
Palm
Springs
and
development.
So
I'm
in
favor
of
the
nomination
Thank.
C
I
too,
support
the
nomination
I.
Think
again,
the
wall
allows
the
house
to
live
the
way
that
people
want
to
live
in
things
today,
and
it
is
unusual
to
see
the
transparency
of
the
wall
or
translucency
of
the
wall
and
then
going
to
the
transparency
of
the
house
all
the
way
through.
So
you
can
get
the
architects
original
intent
of
this,
whereas
if
a
solid
wall
had
been
put
in
front
which
is
common
and
you
know
or
hedges
or
whatever
else,
all
around
Palm
Springs,
that
would
have
changed
it
dramatically.
C
So
I
think
it
was
a
really
excellent
solution
in
allowing
an
historic
resource
to
live
like
a
beautiful
house
today
and
the
work
that's
been
done
in
the
house
is
great.
It's
intact.
The
interior
is
beautiful,
but
it's
it
is
a
mid-century
interior
to
all
details
and
so
I
support
the
nomination.
The
way
it
stands.
A
E
E
I
I
You
walk
in
there
and
and
you're
back
in
time.
It's
just
that
I
feel
the
screen
wall
in
the
front
is
an
impediment
to
that
experience.
As
again
we
talk
about
what
did
it
look
like
in
its
prime
period
of
intense
and
what
you
know.
What
did
the
house
look
like
in
that
period
and
we're
not
able
to
experience
that
because
of
this
screen
wall
it
is
reversible,
so
it
could
be
taken
away.
So
the
my
recommendation
would
be
that
we
recommend
that
it
be
taken
away
and
not
put
a
date
on
that
recommendation.
I.
A
I
I
A
Think
people
today
particularly
do
not
want
to
live
sort
of
in
a
fishbowl
and
I
can
remember
growing
up
and
we
had
a
mid-century
home
and
we
also
had
a
ranch
home
and
we
were
like
out
on
the
street.
Far
as
I
was
concerned,
it
was
like
a
constant
parade
and
there
were,
as
a
young
person
I
particularly
didn't
like
that
at
all
and
I
always
questioned
that
and
I
kept
asking
my
parents.
A
I
C
A
Can't
we
have
a
first,
so
the
motion
by
number
Nelson
and
a
second
by
member
any
further
discussion,
all
in
favor,
say
hi
hi
any
opposed
motion
carries
seven
to
zero.
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay.
We
will
now
move
on
to
to
be
an
application
by
William
and
Jennifer
Nelson
Payne
owners
for
class,
one
historic
research,
designation
of
the
J
Chaney
Wells
residents
at
1850,
Smoketree,
Lane,
rock
12,
so
may
I
have
a
staff
report.
Please!
Yes,.
F
Thank
you
mr.
chair,
as
noted
in
your
staff
report
and
in
the
historic
resources
report.
This
is
a
single-family
residence
designed
in
1942
by
the
notable
architectural
firm
of
Clarke
and
Frey.
Excuse
me
with
Albert
Frey
being
the
primary
person
whose
credit
is
given
to
the
design
of
the
home.
The
home
is
a
unique
example
of
a
classic
ranch-style
home
and
Albert
trace
signature
modernist
detailing
it
retains
a
high
degree
of
historic
integrity
in
looking
at
the
home,
as
you
did.
F
F
Fraze
ability
to
integrate
the
ranch-style
architectural
standards
of
Smoketree
with
a
modernist
aesthetic
are
very
well
documented
and
expand
expressed
in
this
house.
I
found
of
particular
interest:
the
set
of
stacked
windows
that
were
combined
on
the
East
facade
by
the
powder
rooms
and
bathrooms.
That's
very
much
from
the
1940s,
as
you
look
at
very
often
see
in
commercial
buildings
of
that
nature.
So
the
home
sits
on
the
lot
in
a
very
open
plan,
way
oriented
towards
the
mountains
toward
the
south
and
west.
F
In
a
typical
California
ranch-style
home,
often
the
type
that
you'd
see
in
a
cliff
may
vernacular.
You
have
a
main
body
to
the
house
with
rambling,
eaves
and
wings
that
come
out
from
that
central,
that's
central
element.
The
home
has
had
some
additions
added
on
to
it,
which
are
outlined
in
your
staff
reported
in
the
historic
resources
report.
F
F
There's
more
about
wells
in
the
resources
report,
I'm
not
going
to
dwell
on
it,
but
it
is
noted
that
he
is
a
person
of
significance
and
very
noteworthy
because
of
the
association
with
American
optical
and
as
we've
looked
at
this
hall
van.
As
the
report
asserts.
This
home
has
is
eligible
for
Historic
Site,
designation
under
the
criteria
of
persons
of
significance
and
that
it
exemplifies
the
period
between
the
wars
between
World
War,
one
and
World
War.
F
Two,
when
Palm
Springs
really
went
through
its
first
golden
era
of
growth
and
development
as
a
resort
destination,
attracting
many
wealthy
industrialists
and
people
from
the
Hollywood
and
movie
industry,
and
it
presents
the
work
of
master
architect.
Albert,
Frei,
mm-hmm,
I'm.
Sorry
I
skipped
over
distinctive
characteristics,
which
I
mentioned
earlier
in
terms
of
the
fact
that
the
home
is
very
much
a
modernist
home
but
expressed
in
the
ranch-style
vernacular.
F
F
Those
portions
which
were
identified
as
non-contributing
are
the
swimming
pool
of
the
2014
spa
edition
the
walkways
in
the
stone
pathways
in
the
perimeter
garden
wall
of
the
equipment,
enclosure,
Tracy
Conrad
is
here
from
smoke-free
ranch
and
I.
Believe
Steven
Vaught
is
here
the
author
of
the
report,
who
can
explain
further
the
details
on
this
particular
application
and
I'm
available
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
Thank
you.
F
A
A
J
You,
my
name,
is
Tracy
Conrad
I'm
here
representing
the
Fain's
as
owners
of
the
property,
as
well
as
Smoketree
ranch,
which
endorses
the
the
application.
If
this
house
is
delightful,
it's
intact
largely
has
a
few
additions,
but
there
in
some
ways
sympathetic.
It's
been
well
maintained
and
it
could
not
have
a
more
qualified
custodian
than
than
bill
fain.
So
it's
a
wonderful
thing
that
they
are
in
favor
of
preserving
it
and
that
they've
made
this
application
and
Steve
Ott
wrote
a
PSP
F,
a
remarkable
nomination
and
he's
here
to
answer
any
questions
of
the
particulars.
J
I
was
delighted
to
be
able
to
open
the
house
for
you
to
tour
and
see
its
authenticity
as
well
as
its
incredible
ethos.
It's
fun
to
walk
in
these
footsteps
of
albert
frey
and
see
what
he
did
in
the
ranch
vernacular
with
an
opportunity
to
build
a
house
like
this.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
kind
of
tension
and
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions
as
well.
A
J
I
these
pathways
are
in
the
configuration
of
the
original
they've.
Unfortunately,
that
front
pathway
had
slate
added
to
it.
You
know
that
sandstone
pink
slate,
but-
and
so
there's
a
few
things
that
were
done,
unfortunately,
actually,
prior
to
my
tenure
at
Smoketree
and
a
few
that
I
argued
against
to
me,
the
most
important
recommendation
for
the
real
restoration
of
this
house
would
be
to
add
back
the
shake
roof.
J
J
J
I
have
argued
at
this
very
table,
but
many
times
that
smoke
trees
standards
are
more
stringent
in
some
ways
than
even
the
cities.
The
city
so
graciously
cooperates
with
us,
because
without
the
the
imprimatur
of
the
city,
it
would
be
harder
even
to
reinforce
our
our
CC
NRS.
So
the
city
backs
us
up
on
that
which
makes
makes
it
a
lot
easier,
they're.
J
An
interesting
set
of
rules
that
concentrate
on
living
lightly
on
the
desert,
as
Ken
said
not
having
an
overwrought
footprint
on
the
land
containing
the
more
lush
landscaping
in
the
backyard
and
no
visible
grass
there's
low
lighting
and
really
four
main
things:
the
the
the
roof.
The
height
is
restricted
to
thirteen
and
a
half
feet
which
used
to
be
the
standard
in
Palm
Springs
sexually.
J
If
you
go
back
historically
I
think
it
was
eleven
feet,
then
it
went
to
thirteen
and
a
half
feet
and
then
went
to
18
feet
and
Smoketree
retain
to
the
thirteen
and
a
half,
and
it
makes
a
big
difference.
So
so,
yes,
we
still
have
those
those
standards
that
are
more
stringent
and
actually
I
think
it
redounds
to
smoke
to
whose
benefit
right.
It's
what
makes
it
so
special.
Definitely.
J
A
K
A
K
The
historic
nomination
on
the
Chaney
Wells
house,
which
you
know
I,
certainly
fell
in
love
with
it's
such
a
beautiful
house,
I,
think
and
so
much
original
of
it
and
although
I've
discovered
that
the
few
alterations
that
had
been
done,
almost
all
of
them
were
done
by
albert
frey
himself
between
a
period
of
1947
and
1983
was
the
last
we've
been
able
to
document.
So
it's
amazing
what
integrity
this
house
has.
K
In
fact,
I
did
break
the
rules
by
including
interior
pictures,
but
it's
just
it
was
so
rare
to
have
the
original
bathroom
and
and
all
I
did
want
to
point
something
out.
That
ken
was
very
kind
to
point
out
to
me
that
I
should
have
put
in
the
report,
which
is
to
mention
the
contractors
of
Wilson
and
Sorum.
K
Usually
I
would
put
that
in
there,
but
for
some
reason,
I
spaced
out
I,
guess
but
I
just
want
to.
Let
you
know
that
not
only
was
it
Albert
Frei,
but
it
was
part
of
a
team
with
Wilson
and
sorum
who
were
among
the
most
important
and
prolific
contractors
during
the
pillared
period
of
the
30s
through
the
1950s,
and
they
were
frequent
collaborators
with
John,
Porter
Clarke
and
later
with
Clarke
and
Frey,
and
did
all
three
of
the
Frey
houses.
K
The
first
three
that
Frey
did
in
Smoketree,
which
was
the
Johnson
house,
which
is
on
the
same
across
the
street,
from
the
Chaney
Wells
house
and
the
Marcum
house,
the
Frank,
a
maze
of
Elm
markham,
a
house
and
then,
of
course,
the
Chaney
wills
house.
And
he
did.
They
did
st.
Paul's
in
the
desert,
they
did
the
Palm
Springs
Women's
Club,
and
they
did
the
La
Paz
guest
ranch
and
a
number
of
other
homes
and
things
throughout
the
area.
They
were
very
significant
as
well.
K
A
E
Start
so
I
support
the
nomination
and
especially
appreciated
the
excellent
detailed
resource
report
and
the
opportunity
to
visit
the
home,
but
both
interior
and
exterior
I
think
having
the
opportunity
to
be
inside
and
look
out
is
great
part
of
really
studying
the
house
and
and
all
those
wonderful
features
really
fabulous
property.
And,
as
Steve
mentioned,
you
know
we're
fortunate
that
the
the
additions
were
specifically
credited
to
albert
prey
and
in
those
years
that
you
mentioned
47
and
68
and
74.
E
G
Of
all
I
thank
Steve
for
the
detailed
nomination,
always
a
pleasure
to
read
these.
It
was.
It
was
the
day
we
visited.
I
was
a
little
bit
hectic
just
outside
of
this
job
and
I
got
to
come
into
Smoketree
ranch
and
get
that
feeling
that
I
get
on
that
rare
occasion
when
I
get
there
and
then
to
see
this
house
that
I
had
no
idea
before
this
whole
nomination
process
began.
G
A
D
I
have
a
question
first
up,
I
think
I
know
the
answer,
but
I'm
gonna
clarify.
So
my
favorite
thing
in
the
entire
house
was
the
cut
crystal
doorknobs
and,
like
Katherine,
said.
D
Being
the
under
criterion
to
draining
wells
was
meaningful
to
national
history.
You
know.
Certainly
we
pull
it
because
of
association
with
the
American
optical
company
and
co-founder
and
developable
village
in
Massachusetts.
I
can't
help
but
wonder
or
ask
if
somehow
those
doorknob
could
be
included
in
the
nomination,
even
though
the
inside,
because
they
came
from
outside
the
house
and
they
were
part
of
the
original
family,
and
then
they
put
it
into
this
custom
home
that
they
built.
It
would
be
a
pity
to
see
them
ever
go.
F
D
And
then
one
other
thing
is
the
bathrooms.
Obviously,
next
do
all
the
show
in
the
house
the
tower
worked
about
the
the
Kiva's,
the
fireplaces
one
thing
I
forgot
to
look
for
worth
the
trim
nice
on
the
outside
of
the
house.
Are
they
visible
from
the
street
from
all
the
Kiva's
two?
Maybe
four,
five
of
them
perhaps.
F
A
I
I
It
it
it
is,
I
mean
it
is
one
of
the
delights
of
being
a
preservationist
to
walk
through
a
piece
of
history
and
experience
it
the
way
the
people
who
built
it
or
lived
in
it
experienced
it
and
both
the
the
getting
lost
in
smoke
tree
and
having
to
find
it
was.
You
know,
I've,
never
been
back
there
I've,
you
know
so,
like
oh
wow.
This
is
what
people
are
talking
about
and
then
to
find
the
house
and
walk
through
the
house.
I
I
It
has
a
history
of
being
important
in
Palm
Springs,
and
maybe
this
should
be
our
second
historic
district,
so
that
future
generations
can
have
the
experience
that
we
had
and
I
do,
support
them,
a
nation
of
course,
and
thank
all
involved,
both
the
owners
and
the
reporters
and
the
people
passionate
about
saving
this
this
resource.
Thank
you.
C
The
way
that
the
landscaping
I
know
we
can't
do
anything
about
this
now
what's
done
is
absolutely
wonderful,
because
it's
very
very
natural
and
raw
as
you
approach
the
house
and
the
closer
you
get,
it
becomes
more
refined
in
the
front.
It
becomes
predefined
in
a
desert
way
and
then
in
the
back,
you
get
that
beautiful,
splash
of
green
with
also
a
desert
or
landscaping
and
I.
C
A
You
any
other
comments.
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
anytime
I
get
a
chance,
an
excuse
to
go
to
Smoketree
I,
do
it
just
this
week.
I
have
friends
that
live
there
and
they
invited
to
us
to
have
lunch.
We
totally
changed
our
plans,
including
doctors
and
everything
else
to
be
there.
I
would
not
miss
that
experience
whatsoever.
A
A
F
A
Yes,
okay,
so
we
have
a
motion
by
and
a
motion
by
mr.
Ruth
Nell,
a
second
by
mr.
Lavoie.
Any
further
discussion,
all
on
paper
say
hi.
Any
opposed
motion
carries
seven
to
zero
congratulations,
so
we
will
now
move
on
to
unfinished
business
which
there
being
none.
This
month,
we
will
go
to
new
business,
which
is
an
application
by
jr.
Roberts
owner
historic
resource
designation
of
the
Lawrence
Welk
health
residents,
located
at
75
seven-30
East
for
sale,
El,
Mirador.
F
A
C
A
A
A
Mr.
JD
Nelson
has
agreed
to
co-chair
I,
guess
not
co-chair,
but
go
work
with
me
on
the
exhibits
because
we're
continuing
to
expand
those.
They
have
become
a
very
significant
part
of
the
presentation
one
this
year.
That's
new
that
we
are
working
on
is
Danny
Hillier,
since
he
returns
back
from
New
York
will
be
making
discussions
with
him
about
his
mid-century
hard,
which
I
think
would
be
a
nice
addition.
A
Moving
on
to
day
one
as
far
as
the
program
is
concerned,
the
hidden
treasures
of
Palm
Springs.
Certainly,
we
just
talked
about
Smoketree,
which
you'll
see
further
down.
Actually
that's
going
to
be
one
of
the
presentations
on
day
two,
so
the
first
one
under
at
2:10
that
we
can
do
it
actually
I
have
the
book
I
brought
I'll
just
pass
it
around
today
quickly.
A
Architect,
Elena
are
what
day
of
lautner
and
associates,
who
also
work
very
closely
with
John
Lautner
on
the
original
construction
and
later
on,
its
restoration
is
going
to
share
stories
and
challenges.
I
think
that's
going
to
be
a
very
enlightening
and
a
very
exciting
opportunity
for
the
preservation
community.
Then
we
go
into
what
does
preservation
mean
to
Palm
Springs?
A
That
panel
I
think
that's
going
to
be
also
very,
very
meaningful
and
then
the
HSB
accomplishments,
which
are
primarily
the
2019
and
2020
nominations
and
designations
that
we
have
done
followed
by
the
story
of
the
O'donnell
golf
club
with
Steve,
keel
on
which
is
certainly
fitting
on
varying
waves.
As
you
will
see
further
down
in
the
program,
then
our
honor
and
recognition,
and
then
on
our
tours,
which
Dan
Kaiser
will
be
heading
up
and
coordinating
all
of
our
tours
this
year
and
speaking
of
those,
we
have
three
confirmations
so
far.
A
A
So
that's
our
next
concentration
area
day.
Two
just
a
point
here:
we
dropped
the
reference
to
workshops
because
they're
really
not
totally
workshops,
so
we're
just
changing
the
the
nomenclature
today
too,
but
the
very
heavy
focus
on
the
three
r's
restoration,
rehabilitation
and
repurpose,
and
that
will
be
at
the
cultural
center
slash
Camelot
theaters
we're
going
to
start
off
with
the
intrigue
of
the
tahquitz
canyon,
Smoketree
ranch
presentation,
which
tracy
will
do
the
cornelia
white
house,
an
update
on
the
Palm
Springs
School
of
Architecture
program.
A
Lavoie
is
going
to
be
sharing
with
us
case,
study
on
the
Cody
gas
station
and
then,
after
our
break
another
break,
we'll
have
the
art,
POS,
art,
museum,
Architecture
and
Design
Council
they're
working
on
their
presentation
now
we'll
know
the
subject
matter
of
that
before
long
same
thing
with
PS
matcom
and
then
the
co
D
student
architecture,
students,
their
video
presentation
and
then
we
are
also
working
on
there'll,
be
a
lunch
break
and
we
were
not.
We
weren't
originally
going
to
do
anything
in
the
afternoon.
A
A
Wilson
against
their
organization
and
jr.
Roberts
to
see
about
putting
that
together,
so
that
one
is
still
in
the
works
and
then
the
after-party
at
the
O'donnell
golf
club
on
day.
One
such
a
great
tie-in
with
the
recent
designation
they're
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
featured
on
the
main
day
and
then
to
have
the
event.
And
that's
thanks
to
the
board
of
trustees,
who
have
waived
their
healthy
rental
fee
and.
F
E
A
E
A
Walking
injury
right
yeah
if
there's
any
tour
part
covers
but
I
think
the
important
thing
is,
but
I
wanted
to
do.
I
think
was
important
is
to
focus
on
the
restoration
process.
That's
what's
really
important
and
that's
what
art
board
is
all
about.
So
that's
that
to
be
is
is
something
that
we
could
zero
in
on
and,
if
we're
fortunate
enough
to
get
Wilson
with
his
enthusiasm,
Ginn's
ler.
If
they
don't
come
back
for
lunch,
they
would
be
very
sorry.
That's
that
we
will
emphasize
that,
but
what
a
great
opportunity
I
mean
here.
A
D
I'm
a
question
about
day:
truth,
not
sure
if
the
subcommittee
has
talked
about
this
yet,
but
because
you're
gonna
be
in
the
theater
for
most
of
the
time
and
then
we'll
know
that
I'll
be
handouts
and
papers
and
my
experience
of
attending
events
like
that
and
theater.
It's
really
easy
for
things
to
get
dropped
the
law
to
a
roll
down
on
the
floor.
B
B
B
Mr.
Lyon,
as
well
Lyon
when
the
historic
preservation
ordinance
was
adopted
earlier
this
year
by
City
Council,
one
of
the
requests
of
the
City
Council
was
that
they
have
the
opportunity
to
review
the
effectiveness
of
the
ordinance
at
the
end
of
the
year,
and
so
what
we
will
be
doing
is
staff
will
be
making
a
report
to
the
City
Council
in
December
about
the
effectiveness
and
the
administration
of
the
ordinance.
One
of
the
areas
where
councilmembers
had
a
concern
was,
with
the
class
4
designation.
B
They
were
concerned
that
staff
member
review
of
all
class
4
properties
that
were
being
remodeled
or
renovated
would
slow
down
the
process
for
applicants,
and
so
they
are
asking
for
an
accounting
of
how
many
applications
we
reviewed
and
things
like
that.
But
another
thing
that
they
wanted
us
to
look
at
was
whenever
you
do
a
wholesale
rewrite
of
an
ordinance
you're,
never
going
to
get
everything
perfect.
B
The
first
time
through
it
always
needs
tweaking,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
things
that
they
also
wanted
us
to
look
at
and
we
felt
it
appropriate
to
get
the
input
of
the
Historic
Site
preservation
board
on
any
tweaks.
That
we
might
need
to
do
to
the
ordinance.
Ken
and
I
have
thought
of
a
few
things,
as
we've
worked
with
this
over
the
past
year
and
what
I'll
do
is
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
Ken.
B
F
In
what
I've
passed
out
to
you
is
a
complete
copy
of
the
ordinance,
so
I
imagine
that
you've
already
been
kind
of
poring
through
it,
as
you
have
been
looking
at
these
things,
but
I'm
gonna
go
through
very
quickly,
some
of
the
minor
things
that
I've
seen.
Most
of
them
are
administrative
in
nature,
but
it
may
trigger
and
tease
some
of
the
thoughts
that
you
guys
may
have
on
this
as
well
and
I'm,
going
to
start
just
at
the
top
of
the
document,
I'm
going
to
go
through
fairly
quickly.
F
So
in
the
chapter
8.05
0.010
on
the
second
line,
preserving
areas
and
specific
buildings
in
the
city
rather
than
of
the
city,
is
a
minor
one.
That
I
was
looking
at
further
down
under
2.0
or
8.0
5.02.
Oh
excuse
me
in
the
second
paragraph
under
alteration,
we've
noted
a
structural
addition
I'm
reading
now
on
line
for
the
structure
addition
cutting
or
removal
of
trees
or
other
natural
features
it
goes
on
and
then
it
continues
and
then
it
says
of
the
in
the
next
line:
plantings
and
landscape
accessories.
F
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
merge
those
two
under
a
single
heading
of
trees
and
natural
features
or
whether
there's
a
good
reason
to
keep
them
as
distinctive
sector
distinctly
separate
items
of
mention
on
the
next
page.
In
your
copy,
under
the
definitions
of
major
alterations,
I
think
we
can
collapse
this.
We
have
Part,
A
and
Part
B
part
eighth-notes
removes
25%,
it
saw
it
and
so
on.
F
B
talks
about
modifying
or
enclosing
I
think
that
we
could
combine
those
into
one
and
say
removes
comma
encloses,
comma
or
modifies
dotted
on
with
the
rest
of
the
language,
because
the
language
and
those
two
seem
to
be
the
same.
Okay
I
think
it
may
be
valuable
for
us
to
put
in
the
section
of
definitions
the
definition
of
period
of
significance,
which
you
don't
currently
have.
F
Moving
on
through
I've
got
some
minor
stuff
here
that
I'm
going
to
review
with
you
that
are
not
necessary
to
take
up
our
time
today
on
page
11
mm-hmm.
This
would
be
under
section
8.0,
five
point,
one
ten.
So
on
page
eleven
under
part,
three
items
C
and
you
go
down
about
five
lines.
It
says
the
HS
PB
shall
consider
the
hbo's
report,
along
with
any
evidence
or
testimony
offered
at
the
public
hearing,
this
particular
type
of
application.
F
F
Eight
point:
O
five
point,
one
twenty
items:
b1
minor
alterations
as
determined
by
the
historic
preservation
officer
and
then
item
three,
the
replacement
of
reconstruction
of
exterior
features,
the
rest
relative,
suitable
like-for-like,
based
on
the
determination
of
the
director
I,
don't
know
if
we
want
to
make
those
both
director
or
both
hpo,
but
they
seem
to
be
a
bit
of
inconsistency.
There.
F
These
are
the
critical
findings
that
you
guys
have
to
look
at
when
you're
determining
whether
something
should
be
quote:
unquote,
let
go
or
whether
it
needs
to
be
then
further
processed,
and
it
says
under
d1
that
the
class
three
or
class
for
building
possesses
exceptional
historic,
architectural,
archaeological,
cultural,
aesthetic,
significance
to
warrant
Rhee
designation.
What
do
we
measure
those
things
by
and
I'm
suggesting
that
it
should
say,
as
defined
in
Palm,
Springs
Municipal
Code,
section
8.0,
5.07
Oh?
F
In
other
words,
when
you
go
back
and
look
at
whether
something
holds
and
possesses
this
kind
of
historic
significance.
What
is
the
metrics
by
which
you
make
that
determination
and
what
you'll
find
is
when
I
go
under
the
staff
reports
on
these
you're?
Seeing
the
seven
criteria-
okay,
so
I'm,
recommending
that
in
here
we
at
least
reference
section,
8.0
5.07
know
where
those
criteria
are
outlined.
Okay,.
F
F
B
B
B
For
the
demolition
permit
issuance
contingent
upon
entitlement
and
permits
for
replacement
building,
the
only
thing
that
I
would
modify
there
is
that
allowing
the
HSP
be
the
authority
to
waive
that
requirement
upon
certain
findings.
There
is
no
currently
any
language
about
being
able
to
waive
that
requirement.
The
question
has
come
up.
Would
that
be
something
that
City
Council?
Does
my
recommendation
would
be
that
the
Historic
Site
Preservation
Board
make
that
recommendation,
so
the
requirement
to
have
your
entitlements
in
place
before
you
demolish?
B
A
Like
to
start
off
with
one
of
things
that
I'd
like
to
review
are
the
different
classes,
the
class
1
through
4,
we
had
discussion
in
the
past
that
class
one
we
would
borrow
from
Santa
Barbara,
the
landmark
designation
and
class
two
would
be
known
as
the
structures
of
merit
versus
just
class.
Two-
and
you
know,
just
as
you
might
remember,
the
reference
we
had
with
the
Liberace
home
and
the
reaction
there's
something
about
the
stigma
of
being
a
class.
A
I
A
I
D
I'm
gonna
make
my
comment.
Then
I
have
to
leave
for
a
doctor's
appointment,
but
I
would
like
to
see
another
copy
of
this
with
the
changes
that
the
staff
has
proposed
and
the
changes
that
have
been
made
by
the
board
today
with
the
old
wording
and
then
the
new
wording
highlighted
and
wondering
also,
if
there's
possibility,
that
that
revived
document
could
be
shared
with
the
SPF
and
because
matcom
for
their
input
as
well,
because
I
know
they
both
have
concerns
about
making
sure
the
modification
was
flawed.
D
A
F
A
C
C
C
B
In
terms
of
developing
this,
the
city
attorney
has
both
criminal
penalties
and
B,
and
then
civil
action
and
see
the
city
can
do
both
and
you'll
notice.
Under
the
civil
action
we
have
greater
ability,
for
example,
from
an
anon
correctable
violations
25,000
for
each
proven
violation
of
this
chapter,
so
they're
not
mutually
exclusive.
We
can
actually
look
at
both
of
them
together
and
we'll
ask
the
city
attorney
if
there's
any
way
to
increase
that.
But
again
that
was
his
recommendation
when
we
originally
developed
those
penalties.
Well,.
C
F
F
I
Chair
I
seem
to
remember
us
having
some
consternation
about
the,
in
effect,
the
demolition
of
a
potential
resource
that
hadn't
been
on
the
survey
and
that
basically
fell
through
the
cracks
and
got
seriously
changed
and
I
think
it
was
here
in
Las
Palmas.
Yes,
if
we
can
tighten
sort
of
like
that
loophole.
Yes,
that's.
A
B
Which
it
brings
up
the
point,
one
of
the
things
ken
and
I
have
talked
about
is
putting
in
the
ordinance
the
process
of
designating
as
a
class-3,
which
gives
it
the
additional
protections
and
making
sure
that
process
is
clear
in
our
ordinance
because
it
doesn't
address
it
at
all
other
than
being
on
a
list
that
we
have
approved.
And
so
that's
one
of
the
other
things
that
we
need
to
do
administratively
can
is
add
the
process
of
moving
something
from
class.
Four
up
to
class
three
and.
B
F
Just
currently
reads
in
the
ordinance:
it's
on
page
six,
it's
8.0
5.08,
oh,
this
is
all
buildings
that
are
not
class,
1
or
class
2
historic
resources,
but
that
are
identified
in
a
city
approved
historic
resources.
Survey
is
eligible
for
designation
as
historic
resource
I,
hereby
defining
this
or
consistory,
and
no
formal
action
by
the
HS
PPR
City
Council
is
required,
so
that
identifies
what
they
are,
but
it
doesn't
identify
how
one
property
gets
on
that
list.
That's
the
part
where
that's.
A
A
There
are
two
or
three
more
Smoketree
actually
even
is
another
one
where
we
can
not
get
behind
those
gates
to
do
that
check.
So
if
there
is
something
that
we
can
do
to
institute
that
in
the
next
X
number
of
months
this,
it
seemed
like
a
perfect
time
to
do
it,
because
they're
going
to
be
a
lot
of
properties
that
are
going
to
be
very
important.
That
could
go
to
the
wayside
and
we
do
not
have
that
on
the
survey.
A
So
we
could
add
that
as
well
as
well
for
approval
to
do
that,
and
the
other
thing
that
I
had
wanted
to
discuss
was
on
class
four.
At
the
present
time,
there
is
not
an
option
for
the
board
to
review
a
class
four
unless
it
is
slated
for
demolition.
So
if
there
is
going
to
be
alterations
on
that
property,
there's
not
a
provision
that
that
could
come
to
us
for
review
and
I
would
like
to
us
to
could
reconsider
that
and
being
able
to
add
language
which
would
allow
that
to
happen.
C
F
No,
but
what
I
had
done
when
this
first
came
out
was
I
went
around
with
the
Board
of
Realtors
representative
and
we
did
basically
a
presentation
and
rollout
of
it.
So
it
does
get
disseminated
as
much
as
we
can.
But
we've
not
we've
not
gone
out
and
published
hundreds
of
copies
of
this
and
published
and
printed
it
and
mailed
it
and.
F
B
A
C
We're
able
those
of
us
who
went
on
the
tour
of
smoke-free
saw
the
beautiful
serenity
and
landscaping
the
natural
setting
with
trees
and
plants,
and-
and
it
really
is
quite
an
experience
to
get
into
Smoketree
what
I
noticed
driving
around
the
city.
Parking
lots
is
that
trees
are
cut
down
and
they're
not
be
placed
and
I
know
that
we
have
a
landscape
requirement
in
the
city
that
they
should
have
trees.
I
have
reported
some
trees
and
nothing's
ever
happened.
C
So
I
wonder
what
what
can
we
do
as
a
city
I
mean
trees
are
so
important,
especially
here
in
the
desert
to
keep
the
heat
down.
You
know
to
keep
the
air
clean
and
it
seems
like
we're
not
doing
much
about
it
and
I
know
it's
not
a
historic
preservation
item
so
to
speak,
but
is
there
anything
that
we
can
do
yeah.
B
Just
a
couple
of
things:
first
of
all,
if
you've
turned
in
to
code
enforcement,
the
fact
that
trees
are
missing
and
don't
get
a
response
back
just
go
ahead
and
forward
those
to
me
and
I'll
work
with
code
enforcement
on
that
when
there
is
an
approved
landscape
plan
for
a
property
and
they
remove
trees,
what
we
require
them
to
do
is
to
replace
them
in
accordance
with
the
approved
landscape
plan.
So
it's
important
that
we
follow
up
on
that
so
again
feel
free
to
just
email.
B
Those
to
me
miss
Dixon
and
I'll
work
with
code
enforcement
on
that
okay,
we've
had
a
number
of
properties
just
to
give
an
example,
I
hate
to
call
them
out
on
this,
but
the
spring
shopping
center,
for
example,
has
a
number
of
trees
that
are
faltering,
shall
we
say,
and
so
we've
been
working
with
them
on
getting
those
replaced
as
part
of
upgrades
to
their
center
and
we've
had
a
number
of
other
properties
in
a
similar
fashion.
In
our
zoning
code,
we
do
have
a
requirement
for
parking
lot
shading.
B
B
C
C
A
As
far
as
our
nominations
are
concerned,
oh
you
and
I
have
had
some
chat
about
that
and
and
I
know
that,
if
there's
anything
we
can
do,
that
would
be
very
important
to
try
to
streamline
some
of
these
reports
going
forward.
So
that
was
something
that
that
I
wanted
to
mention
to
sin,
and
is
there
an
ideal
length?
Is
there
a
you
know,
any
other
things
I
know.
There's
one
thing:
you
point
that
you
are
pointing
people
to
now
that
are
writing
these
designations.
A
F
F
Really
interesting
thing
about
it
is
that
these
reports
tend
to
be
fascinating
reads,
but
then
you
have
to
ask
yourself:
well,
what's
the
core
material
here,
that
the
board
needs
in
order
to
make
a
decision?
And
that's
what
I
coach
applicants
on
is
when
you
read
the
instructions
and
the
procedures
that
are
in
the
ordinance?
And
you
see
what
the
criteria
is.
That's
listed
there
that
the
report,
the
person
who's
writing.
The
report
focuses
as
concisely
as
they
can
on
those
criteria
and
the
findings
of
integrity.
F
There's
always
a
rich
colorful,
interesting,
fascinating,
dramatic
Adventures
filled
backstory
to
most
of
these
properties
and
what
I've
encouraged
the
writers
of
these
nominations
to
do
is
once
you've
gotten
the
core
material
distilled
down.
So
the
board
has
the
material
it
needs
to
make
a
decision,
and
you
still
have
all
that
other
stuff.
You
want
to
tell
the
story
about.
Please
put
that
in
an
appendix
and
they're
starting
to
do
that,
a
bit
more,
but
I
have
had
conversations
the
organization.
F
That's
been
writing
a
lot
of
the
historic
Resources
Report
is
the
Palm
Springs
Preservation,
Foundation
and
I
have
reached
out
to
their
board
president
and
mentioned
this
as
well
that
you
know
there
needs
to
be
a
clear
paragraph
or
two
of
executive
summary.
There
needs
to
be
a
clear,
concise
analysis
of
the
project
against
the
criteria,
project
against
the
integrity
findings
and
then
the
rest
of
it
really
is
icing
on
the
cake
is
best
placed
in
an
appendix
the
other
thing.
F
That's
been
really
important
and
I've
been
getting
mixed
mixed
success
on
this
is
in
their
bibliography.
We
talked
about
there
being
the
importance
of
a
primary
source
or
that
the
material
that
are
in
these
reports
be
sourced,
and
some
of
them
will
put
in
their
bibliography
that
they
went
to
the
Planning
Department
and
they
went
to
the
Historical
Society
and
they
went
to
the
California
digital
newspaper
collection,
but
they
don't
cite
the
actual
source
and
I've
asked
them
to.
Please
be
more
articulate
in
that.
F
If
you
want
a
good
example
of
one
of
those,
it's
the
report
that
Steve
Kalan
did
on
the
O'donnell
golf
course.
It's
got
a
very
good
bibliography
in
it
that
takes
you
right
down
to
a
page
number
in
a
particular
book
that
he
references.
So
that's
the
quote:
unquote:
training
that
I
try
to
give
the
applicants
when
I
get
these
reports.
I've
had
a
couple
of
report
writers
who
have
been
giving
me
draft
copies
of
these
reports,
and
so
I
can
work
with
them
a
bit
more
before
the
actual
application
comes
in.
F
But
they
love
to
tell
a
story
and,
as
you
guys
all
know,
because
when
you
guys
get
172
page
reports,
you
guys
all
rave
about
them,
but
but
yeah
brevet.
Brevity
is
really
the
key
on
these,
because
you
can.
You
can
target
these
things
and
tell
exactly
what
you
need
to
tell
probably
in
about
6
to
12
pages.
A
But
a
lot
of
it
seems
to
just
be
dealing
with
the
structure,
in
other
words,
there's
a
lot
of
that
information.
The
juicy
stories
that
we
all
still
want
to
read
is
in
an
appendix
form
and
that
we
stay
focused
right
and
I
don't
want
to
discourage
any
any
of
these
nominations.
I
think
this
is
most
fabulous
experience
that
we're
getting
all
this
coming
jaws,
but
just
from
a
going-forward
standpoint,
I
thought
I
wanted
to
mention
that
so.
I
When
I
first
came
to
this
board,
I'm
used
to
reading
almost
every
nomination
being
that
thick,
which
starts
with
the
hominoids,
migrated
across
the
linen
bridge
and
then
and
then
and
then
and
then
40
pages
later
you
get
well
when
lumber
was
imported
on
because
the
pier
was
built
they
could
get
lumber
and
of
the
housing
style
change,
and
it
was
really
I
always
asked.
Can
all
of
this
boilerplate
just
be
put
in
a
boilerplate
and
do
I
have
to
read
it
every
time?
I
I
read
a
nomination
and
our
staff
told
me
yes,
because
it
has
to
stand
alone,
and
fortunately
Palm
Springs
doesn't
do
that.
Thank
you.
It
focuses
on
the
history
and
the
story,
and
and
while
I've
grumbled
I
really
don't
care
what
he
did
as
a
teenager
to
make
him
significant.
These
are
some
of
the
most
readable
reports.
I
have
ever
read,
I
mean
there
I
mean
you
know
I
used
to
like
tonight
before
I
sit
down,
you
know,
pour
cocktail.
I
I
So
I,
you
know,
there's
always
room
for
improvement,
but
I
think
our
the
state
of
our
reports
this
year
particularly
have
reached
a
level
that
that
are
commendable,
that
yeah
they're
long
but
they're
they're
great
reading,
they're
also
extremely
well
written
they're,
well,
they're
good
with
their
good
literature,
as
opposed
to
and
and
to
think
that
someone
fifty
years
from
now
is
going
to
pick
up
this
document.
Not
not
maybe
the
building's
gone
you
know
burned
in
a
fire
or
god
knows
what
else.
I
A
A
We
had
a
great
tour
of
the
co
D
campus,
which
was
really
really
wonderful
by
Lance
O'donnell.
It
was
quite
in-depth.
We
walked
that
whole
two
miles
of
a
campus.
They
odd
it
was.
It
was
just
it
was
very
meaty
and
the
stories
and,
of
course,
Lance
I,
didn't
realize
he
had
such
a
tie
to
to
with
his
father.
Having
worked
there
all
that
time,
so
it
was
greatly
appreciated
and
I
staff
thanks
very
much
Ken
for
you
coming
to
to
be
there
that
we
could
make
all
this
happen.
A
A
You
know
that
was
done
a
great
deal
and
the
co
D
campus
also
was
very
mindful
of
me
for
local
architects
and
then
a
lead
architect
out
of
San
Francisco
and
since
we're
talking
about
a
master
plan
concept
that
counsel
asked
for
for
the
sunrise
park.
I
just
wondered
it:
it's
possible
that
we
could.
We
could
suggest
this
as
a
recommendation
or
their
consideration.
A
B
As
part
of
that
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
recommend,
if
you
all
can
put
this
out
to
the
organizations,
is
there
were
a
number
of
houses
that
were
identified
and
given
awards
at
the
PS
Montcalm
that
perhaps
the
owner
should
think
about
designation
of
those
residences
at
a
future
date
and
then
also
fire
station
number.
Four
was
given
an
award
and
I
think
that's
something
that
we
as
staff,
should
also
pursue
in
terms
of
nominations.
B
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
in
your
minds
that
we
get
the
word
out
on
that
and
again,
as
things
are
given
awards
for
preservation,
we
should
look
at
them
as
being
potentially
on
the
local
register,
either
as
a
structure
of
Merit
or
as
a
landmark
structure.
So
just
something
to
think
about
in
the
future.
F
A
I
do
not
have
anything
else,
nothing
else.
Okay,
so
I
think
it's
time
now
to
move
for
adjournment
historic
site.
Preservation
Board
will
adjourn
to
its
regularly
scheduled
meeting
on
Tuesday
December,
the
10th
2019
at
9
a.m.
in
the
large
company
Matt
City
Hall.
Thank
you
all
for
today
see
you
in
December.