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From YouTube: Planning Commission | Jul 13 2022
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City of Palm Springs Planning Commission Meeting, held July 13th, 2022
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A
Passes
we
are
in
public
comments.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
planning
commission
on
consent,
calendar
and
other
agenda
items
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
commission.
Please
note:
the
planning
commission
is
prohibited
from
taking
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
A
Three
minutes
will
be
allowed
for
each
speaker.
Testimony
for
public
hearing
items
may
be
offered
at
this
time
and
the
time
of
the
hearing,
the
two
public
hearing
items
are
walmart
stores,
inc
and
new
church
2
llc
members
of
the
public,
who
would
like
to
comment
on
items.
4A
and
5a
are
directed
to
comment
under
this
portion
of
the
agenda
that
is
ao
tourist
construction
and
o2
architecture.
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B
F
How
about
now?
Yes,
thank
you.
No
problem
all
righty
good
evening,
chair
and
commission
members
like
that
was
just
mentioned.
Walmart
is
proposing
a
16
pump
fuel
station
within
the
destination
ramone
shopping
center
adjacent
to
the
existing
walmart
shopping
center,
with
frontage
on
lawrence
crossley
road
accessory
to
the
fuel
station
is
a
1400
square.
Foot
convenience
store
with
the
request
of
a
type
40
liquor
license
the
screen.
Sorry,
the
photo
on
the
left
shows
overall
aerial
of
the
destination
ramon
shopping
center
and
the
close-up
on
the
right
shows
the
project
site.
F
F
So
this
is
their
site
plan.
The
site
plan
shows
the
eight
sorry
16
pump
fuel
station
under
a
17
foot
high
canopy,
that
is
approximately
4
000
square
feet
in
size.
The
convenience
store
is
located
to
the
south
of
the
lot.
There
are
two
entrances
to
the
site
that
take
place
from
within
the
interior
parking
lot
and
three
exits.
The
exit
on
the
north
is
a
right
turn
only
so
they'll
be
directed
towards
across
the
road
to
avoid
any
buildup
in
that
area.
Any
traffic
build
up
in
that
area.
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F
F
F
F
F
F
C
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F
F
F
F
F
This
is
their,
they
are
altering
the
the
destination
ramon
sign
on
ramon
road
to
fit
in
the
walmart
fuel
station
gas
prices,
but
all
signage
will
be
reviewed
through
their
specific
sign
program,
so
they
need
to
go
through.
They
need
to
amend
their
current
signed
program.
So
this
is
just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
what
it's
going
to
look
like
the
applicant
sorry,
so
staff
does
approve,
recommend
approval,
the
application
subject
to
the
conditions
of
approval
and
the
applicant
is
available
for
any
comments
or
questions,
and
that
concludes.
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F
H
Okay,
I've
got
a
concern
about
the
exit
only
onto
the
internal
drive,
the
way
it's
configured.
Now,
if
you
look
at
the
site
plan,
it's
not
very
channelized
as
an
exit
to
the
right.
Only-
and
I
know
that's
probably
what
it's
intended
to
be,
but
because
there
is
no
entrance
on
crossley.
My
fear
is
that
people
are
going
to
come
in
off
of
crosley
and
not
bother
going
into
the
parking.
F
D
Afternoon,
everybody
yeah
they're,
the
original
track
map
for
the
walmart
center
already
has
approved
entrances
off
of
crosley
lane
and
on
major
thoroughfares
and
secondaries.
We
don't
like
to
add
any
additional
driveways
if
they
have
another
source
of
entering
and
exiting
which
has
already
been
established
for
that
track
map.
So
we
made
the
suggestion
that
leaving
this
little
site
area
here
and
having
a
right
turn
out
only-
and
I
agree
with
mr
miller-
it
could
be
channelized
a
little
bit
better
and
maybe
signed
a
little
bit
better,
but
it
will.
H
A
I
Okay,
thank
you,
my
next
question.
I
just
really
struggled
with
looking
at
the
landscaping
and
understanding.
What's
going
on,
because
the
landscaping
plan,
which
is
old
but
still
it's
the
landscaping
plan
that
we
have
doesn't
seem
to
agree
with
the
renderings.
You
know
if
I
look
at
sheet
two.
In
fact,
I
think
this
was
the
first
one
that
alex
put
up.
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F
I
don't
have
a
percentage
for
you
that
could
probably
be
directed
to
the
applicant,
but
I
did
make
them
aware
that
we
have
within
our
zoning
ordinance
they
have
to
comply
with
that
that
percentage.
There's
it's
stated
in
our
zoning
code
that
they
can't
sell
a
certain
amount.
They
have
to
sell
it
in
conjunction
with,
like
snacks
and
food
items
as
well.
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J
According
to
ordinance
2063,
which
was
the
recent
one
which
amended
that
section
of
the
zoning
code,
it
provides
sales
of
beer,
wine,
liquor
and
other
alcoholic
beverages
from
the
same
location
as
gasoline
and
other
motor
vehicle
fuel
may
be
permitted
under
the
following
conditions.
Such
sales
must
be
offered
only
in
conjunction
with
the
secondary
retail
of
food
groceries
and
sundries,
in
which
not
less
than
75,
of
the
value
of
the
retail
sales
of
all
products.
Other
than
gasoline
motor
vehicle
comprises
sales
of
products
other
than
beer
wine.
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J
They
know
for
practical
purposes.
I
think
it
would
be
something
that
the
city
would
have
to.
You
know
look
at
the
retail
sales.
It
would
probably
have
to
be
some
sort
of
an
investigation
that
the
city
did
to
determine
whether
that
condition
that
provision
of
the
code
is
being
complied
with
or
violated.
J
J
Planning
commission
believes
that
there
is
some
sort
of
a
land
use
concern
that
needs
to
be
addressed
with
a
condition
of
approval.
In
order
to
make
your
findings,
you
can
do
that,
but
I
would
urge
the
commission
to
clearly
articulate
what
the
land
use
concern
is
that
the
added
condition
is
addressing.
L
Good
afternoon,
chair
and
commissioners,
thank
you
all
for
hearing
our
case
tonight.
This
is
jacob
glaze
project
applicant.
Along
with
I
have
we're
the
civil
engineer
involved
in
the
project.
We
also
have
the
architect
on
so
they're
happy
to
answer
any
questions
as
well.
Should
you
have
any
questions
regarding
that
ultimately
happy
to
be
back
in
front
of
you
all.
I
think,
as
alex
alluded
to
earlier,
presented
a
different
type
of
format
store
to
you,
I
think
about
nine
months
ago.
L
We
felt
that
what
was
presented
was
sufficient,
but
if
there's
additional
needs
for
channelization,
I
don't
see
an
issue
in
doing
that.
One
of
the
other
comments
was
just
walmart
on
the
site.
Walmart
does
own
the
site.
They
currently
do
not
have
another
I'd,
say
another
tenant.
Looking
at
that
piece
of
property,
as
you
all
know,
this
piece
of
property
on
the
side
has
has
sat
vacant
since
walmart
was
constructed.
I
know
that
staff
has
been,
or
the
city
itself
has
been
trying
to
get.
L
Have
that
parcel
filled,
but
given
kind
of
its
tight
location
has
not
been
able
to
so
we're
excited
that
fuel
will
be
coming
in
there,
we're
hoping
that
it
will
kind
of
revitalize.
That
area.
Add
some
additional
features
to
that
and
then
ultimately,
we'll
try
to
bring
in
another
potential
user
behind
us
right
behind
the
fuel
station.
But
at
this
time
we
don't
have
anybody,
but
we're
hopeful
that,
regarding
the
ice,
racks
and
magazine
racks
understand
that's
per
city
code.
L
So
there's
no
issue
in
removing
that
and
then
in
terms
of
the
hours,
the
6
a.m
to
11
p.m,
based
on
the
store
we're
good
with
that
and
then
in
terms
of
the
sale
of
alcohol
sales.
One
thing
that
is
going
to
be
a
little
bit
different
in
terms
of
this
facility
versus
another
convenience
store
facility.
Is
you
have
the
main
walmart
box
right
down
the
way,
there's
a
closed
circuit
tv
that
connects
to
both
of
those
as
well
as
the
walmart
security
that
is
actually
at
the
walmart
box.
L
So
while
we
will
have
one
staff
member
at
this
location,
there's
always
that
ability
to
have
the
the
security
or
other
folks
come
in
from
the
walmart
box.
Given
that
it's
one
use,
so
I
tried
to
address
most
of
the
questions.
I
probably
missed
a
couple
chair,
but
if
I
didn't
miss
any
happy
too
happy
to
answer
anything-
and
I
would
say
again
happy
to
be
in
front
of
you
all-
to
represent
this
project,
we'll
fully
get
constructed
and
get
this
out
there
to
fill.
A
H
L
Yes,
commissioner
miller,
that
was
something
that
we
did
look
at.
That's
something
that
walmart
operations,
that's
their
their
number,
one
thing
that
they
look
at,
because
if
we
can't
get
gas
there,
we
we
can't
have
a
fuel
station.
So
that
is
definitely
something.
Ultimately,
we
do
have
sufficient.
We
ran
our
truck
turn
that
was
blessed
by
them.
We
have
a
special
truck
turning
template,
that's
walmart,
designed
and
laid
out.
We
ran
that
through
got
blessing
from
them
and
then
did
present
that
over
to
engineering
and
got
blessing
from
them
as
well.
L
L
L
I
have
to
be
able
to
provide
that
that
clear
axis
height
and
providing
some
type
of
canopy
across
the
drive
owls
as
long
as
the
footings
and
the
posts
and
everything
else
would
be
a
little
bit
of
concern
there.
So
we
do
not
provide
it.
We
do
have
the
shade,
that's
above
the
front
door,
and
we
have
the
shade
that's
over
the
canopies,
but
we
don't
actually
have
something
that
goes
from
the
canopy
all
the
way
to
that.
Given
that
kind
of
that
reason
that
answers
your
question,
commissioner,
chair.
L
You
would
not
be
getting
any
of
that
additional
sun
because
of
the
the
sunset
and
everything
else
over
the
hills.
So
I
assume
that
anybody
that's
standing
under
that
canopy
would
most
likely
the
shade
canopy
would
most
likely
be
getting
some
of
the
morning
sun.
But
when
I
get
into
the
afternoon
sun,
that
would
be
my
best
approximation
to
answer
your
question
there
in
terms
of
the
canopy
itself,
the
width
that
the
width
will
it
matches
the
sidewalk.
L
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C
L
L
L
To
go
back,
miss
our
chair,
hershberger
to
go
back
and
answer
your
your
other
question.
If
I,
if
I
can,
the
freezer
cases
are
the
the
cases
themselves,
the
freezer
cases
are
about
23
of
the
entire
sales
area.
Of
the
of
that,
I
assume
that
we're
not
utilizing
the
entire
sale,
so
I'm
gonna
throw
a
a
number
out
there
and
I
might
be
a
little
bit
off,
but
you're,
probably
maybe
in
the
the
15
or
something
of
the
entire
floor
area.
L
But
again
we
didn't
really
look
at
that
from
that.
From
that
standpoint,
we
did
look
at
it
from
the
city's
adopted
code
standpoint
that
talked
about
the
percentage
and
I'm
I'm
no
alcohol
expert
by
any
means,
but
I
assume
some
of
that
is
regulated
by
ricky,
regulated
by
the
by
the
state
board
and
their
government
license.
I
know
that
our
actually
walmart's
land
use
actually
just
logged
in
so
brian,
if
you're,
okay,
to
answer
that,
I
would.
I
would
sincerely
appreciate
that.
B
What
I
recall
on
this
1440
is
the
alcohol
area
is
about
10
to
12
overall
floor
area.
So
not
a
lot
primarily
they'll
take
up
a
couple
of
the
coolers,
maybe
it's
half
as
much
as
30
or
40
percent
of
the
coolers
for
beer
and
then
they'll
have
a
couple
of
racks
for
the
wine,
because
here
we'll
only
be
smelling
beer
and
wine.
So.
A
B
M
B
M
B
M
A
B
Again,
if
you're
going
to
apply
that
to
everybody,
then
it
has
to
apply
to
everybody.
We
don't
want
to
be
singled
out
that
where
no
one
else
has
to
comply
or
do
these
same
type
of
restrictions,
we
understand
the
condition
of
approval
and
typically
with
these
types
of
conditions,
the
city
will
come
in
and
ask
for
records.
B
E
J
I
believe
that
the
proposal
mr
newell
made
is
is
reasonable
and
would
allow
the
city
to
obtain
information
to
verify
compliance
with
the
code.
Here.
I
believe
that
you
know
the
the
city.
The
planning
commission
would
be
entitled
to
put
additional
conditions
about
square
foot.
You
know
floor
area
and
things
like
that.
More
restrictive
conditions,
if
physician,
can
articulate
a
particular
land
use
impact
of
this
application.
J
Otherwise
we
really
have
to
defer
to
the
the
main
code
here
applied
to
everyone.
If
the
commission's
concern
is
that
this
ordinance
needs
amendments
to
perhaps
index
off
a
floor
area,
we
could
certainly
bring
you
know
that
under
consideration.
Maybe
that
would
come
back
to
the
commission
in
the
council
as
a
code
amendment.
J
A
J
I
guess
there's
sort
of
a
nuanced
answer
to
this.
Generally.
Code
applies
across
the
board
to
everybody
and
that's
what
the
applicant
is
doing
here
complying
with
this.
You
know
cap
in
the
retail
sales,
at
least
that
that's
what
they're
agreeable
to
that
condition.
The
planning
commission
has
constitutional
nexus.
We've
talked
about
this
concept
before
to
impose
additional
conditions.
If
you
can
identify
a
specific
public
health
safety
welfare
concern,
that's
not
being
addressed
with
this
application.
J
A
J
Well,
I
I
think
the
the
the
correct
statement
of
the
law
here
is
unless
there
is
some
special
circumstance,
some
particular
public
health
safety
welfare
impact.
That's
being
addressed
for
that
application,
the
commission
may
not
add
additional
conditions
beyond
what
code
compliance
requires.
So
you
know
for
this
application.
If,
if
there
are
no
additional
concerns
that
the
planning
commission
can
articulate,
then
they
have
to
comply
with
code,
and
that
would
be
that
would
be
across
the
board
for
all
applicants.
A
A
He
doesn't
okay,
I'm
closing
the
public
hearing.
Thank
you
both
for
coming
before
us.
The
matter
is
before
the
commission.
I
want
to
just
start,
commissioner
roberts.
I
thought
I
was
going
to
start
with
a
motion
outlining
the
issues
that
have
come
before
us.
Were
you
going
to
do
something
different?
A
We
we
we
agree
with
one
staff
person
as
long
as
there
is
security
backup
with
walmart,
so
that
an
additional
person
could
come
over
from
walmart
if,
if
asked
to
by
the
staff,
that's
there
if
the
situation
arose,
that
we
add
to
the
pln
regarding
the
percentage
of
sales
that
the
director
has
the
right
to
ask
for
that
information
from
the
applicant
when
they
determine
they
need
it
and
on
with
architectural
advisory.
I
would
like
them
to
look
at
the
trees
on
lawrence
crossley
road.
A
We
have
been
trying
to
do
a
canopy
of
trees,
every
15
feet
of
shade
trees
on
principal
streets,
I'd
like
them
to
look
at
the
landscape
plan
and
modify
it
in
that
way.
I
believe
that's
an
issue
for
architectural
advisory
and
the
other
thing
is
just
to
look
at
the
shading
on
the
building
over
the
sidewalk
to
make
sure
that
it's
adequate
to
shape
people
who
are
standing
in
that
area.
Given
the
heat.
Is
there
any
other
issue
that
anybody
raised
that
we
would
want
to
include
in
that?
I
I,
like
the
motion,
a
lot.
I
do
have
two
things
I
want
to
clarify
or
add:
one
is
relative
to
the
shading
of
the
contour.
It
appears
that
there's
a
conflict
between
trees
that
are
shown
on
the
landscape
plan
and
the
canopy,
and
I
would
like
the
solution
to
not
lose
number
of
trees,
so
if
we
can
make
sure
that
we
don't
lose
trees
in
that
in
that
final
solution
and
number
two
or
additional
thing,
we
do
have
an
erroneous.
I
believe
reference
where
one
of
the
conditions
is
a
residential
smoke
alarms.
I
A
M
J
Well,
my
understanding
of
the
condition,
commissioner,
was
that
the
director
of
planning
services
has
the
authority
to
request
that
information
of
the
applicant
to
verify
compliance.
Correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
I
think
that's
the
wording
of
the
condition,
and
we
can
do
that
to
verify
compliance.
That's
not
a
problem.
J
I
think
that's
consistent
with
the
code
where
I
would
have
some
concerns
that
the
commission
started
imposing
greater
substantive
requirements
than
the
code
requires
without
articulating
again
a
particular
land
use
impact
that
this
project
brings
that
necessitates
that
higher
or
more
stringent
condition
than
what
code
requires,
but
for
purposes
of
just
verifying
compliance
with
the
code,
yeah
we're
within
our
rights,
to
condition
it
to
say
we
can
ask
for
that
information.
You
need
to
produce.
M
J
Okay,
well,
if
the
commission
wants
to
amend
that
condition
and
say
that
walmart
shall,
on
an
annual
basis
or
on
a
periodic
basis,
shall
provide
you
know,
documentation
to
show
compliance.
I
think
they
can
do
that.
The
commission
is
authorized
to
do
that.
That
would
be
implementing
and
forcing
the
code.
M
G
G
That's
another
whole
subject,
but
I
think
we're
putting
a
specific
applicant
through
the
ringer
right
now
for
no
reason
he's
simply
coming
in
on
the
city
code,
added
as
it
is
written
today
and
frankly,
I
think
we're
wasting
a
tremendous
amount
of
time
and
going
down
a
rabbit
hole
on
something
that
we
can
certainly
look
at.
But
not
while
an
applicant
is
sitting
here
in
the
room
being
picked
on
specifically.
M
I
have
a
response
to
that.
This
was
a
major
issue
for
us
when
we
were
considering
the
tower
market
in
the
north
end
of
town,
this
issue
of
percentage
of
alcohol
sales,
a
major
issue
and
that's
why
I'm
bringing
it
up
and
that's
why?
Mr
urban,
I
believe,
brought
it
up.
It's
not
just
because
we're
going
to
pick
on
the
app
not
that
we're
trying
to
pick
on
the
applicant.
G
Applicant
doesn't
make
sense
pete
if
you
want
to
go
after
percentages,
and
you
want
to
go
after
the
code
and
you
want
to
go
after
the
city's
monitoring.
That
is
an
issue
unto
itself
to
pick
it
up.
Every
time
we
have
an
applicant
come
in
with
alcohol
sales
doesn't
make
any
sense.
It's
not
we're
not
treating
people
evenly
and
that's
not
our
job.
H
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
agree
wholeheartedly
with
vice
chair
roberts.
I
don't
think
we
should
be
singling
out
this
applicant
this
application.
Everything
on
this
application
looks
like
a
standard
convenience
smart
attached
to
a
gas
station.
We've
got
the
ability,
as
the
city
to
monitor
gross
receipts.
If
we
need
to
we've
had
that
introduced
as
a
as
an
addition
to
pln-8,
I
see
no
reason
to
belabor
this
issue
anymore,
there's
nothing
that
would
indicate
that
this
is
a
liquor
store,
as
opposed
to
a
convenience,
smart,
and
so
I'm
ready
to
move
on.
D
A
G
E
Number
four:
remove
the
sails,
vending
cart
or
displays
in
front
of
the
store
number
five.
The
kiosk
may
have
one
person
attendant
to
operate
the
businesses
so
long
as
there
is
an
additional
backup
person
or
security
attendant
that
can
respond.
If
there
are
issues
number
see
the
next
one
is
number
six.
E
The
director
may
request
proof
of
compliance
with
sales
of
alcohol
conditions
and
pln-8
at
any
time
number
seven.
The
the
option
is
to
ensure
trees
are
not
removed
from
the
plan
when
addressing
the
shade
structure
or
adding
shade
structures
to
the
to
the
kiosk
and
then
finally
address
fire
condition:
number
seven
relative
to
residential
structures
before
finalizing
the
resolution.
I
A
A
D
C
C
M
M
A
A
Okay,
the
next
issue
before
us
is
to
be
new
church
2
llc
for
a
two-year
extension
of
time
for
entitlements
involving
major
architectural
application
and
conditional
use
permit
to
one
to
renovate
two
historic
properties
for
an
adaptive,
reuse
and
demolish
and
reconstruct
one
two,
one
and
two-story
structures
on
a
3.6
acre
site
for
the
operation
of
a
hotel
with
accessory
spa,
restaurant
and
meeting
space
located
at
222
south
kohila
road
zone.
R3
staff
report.
Please.
E
E
So
sorry,
the
applicant
has,
as
a
part
of
this
time
extension
request,
identified
some
changes
to
the
project.
At
the
request
of
the
hotel
operator,
two
primary
areas
to
the
project
site
are
being
proposed.
There
are
proposed
changes
to
relative
to
the
church,
the
historic
church
property.
There
is
a
proposed
edition
of
the
spa
on
the
second
level,
which
is
roughly
a
thousand
square
feet
in
size,
they're,
locate,
locating
the
transformer
and
electrical
equipment
on
the
south
side
of
the
church
and
adding
a
trash
enclosure
near
that
area
as
well.
E
Yeah,
I'm
going
to
go
through
these
on
the
on
the
plans
here
in
just
a
second
and
then
lastly,
on
this
property
they're,
adding
a
open
air
patio
bar
within
the
dining
area,
which
is
near
the
southeast
area
of
the
dining
area,
and
then
there's
a
building
at
the
southeast
corner
of
uranus
and
korea
and
they're
proposing
to
relocate
two
rooms
on
within
the
ground
floor
to
the
upper
floor
of
that
building.
It
was
originally
a
one-story
building.
E
This
is
really
just
a
kind
of
zoomed
in
view
of
the
church
property
and
so
looking
at
where
the
changes
are
on
kind
of
the
south
side
of
the
building
along
barista
road.
You
see
the
proposed
outdoor
bar
space
along
that
front.
Here
they
had
we
identified
a
proposed
restroom
building,
just
south
of
that
or
excuse
me
east
of
that,
in
front
of
the
building,
but
we've
identified
that
that
is
an
issue
relative
to
the
setbacks.
E
E
E
So
we
look
at
this.
Oh
before
I
move
on
to
the
elevations,
the
other
area.
That's
changing
on
the
project
is
the
spa
addition.
On
the
second
floor,
the
sequel
is
located
here
in
the
center
of
the
property.
So
it's
further
north
from
that
over
on
this
area
and
I'll
show
those
to
you
in
elevation
view.
C
E
E
A
E
E
E
That's
really
kind
of
a
separate
issue
whether
or
not
the
the
plans
that
were
submitted
were
complete.
You
know
in
terms
of
industry
standards,
this
is
more
relative
to
change
or
revision
to
the
approval,
so
potentially
they
could
have
submitted
it
without
this
change
and
had
and
still
complied
but
they're
submitting
it
with
this
change
and
still
complying
and
trying
to
comply
with
that
milestone.
E
E
E
We
do
recommend
one
year
in
terms
of
the
extension
the
applicant
has
requested
two
years
and
the
one
unique
one
of
the
unique
things
with
this
project
is.
There
is
a
tot
rebate,
covenant
agreement
that
was
established
between
the
applicant
and
the
the
city.
The
original
agreement
was
improved,
was
approved
in
2019.
They
did.
E
Have
they
submitted
the
materials
in
in
good
faith,
as
required
relative
to
construction,
and
at
what
point
will
the
permit
be
issued
so
and
effectively
making
the
entitlement
exercise?
So,
in
this
case,
we've
identified
that
they
haven't
solved
additional
fencing
to
secure
the
property
they
haven't
identified,
that
they
do
have
security
on
site.
E
They
have
demolished
buildings,
as
required
in
the
performance
schedule
and
they've
prepared
the
construction
drawings
the
permit
trines
and
submitted
those
to
the
city
as
required
by
june
15th,
and
so
when
we
looked
at
what
would
be
the
appropriate
time
frame
based
on
the
just
the
agreement
alone
with
regardless.
If
this
you
know,
if
they
comply
or
not,
was
how
long
would
it
take
before
the
permits
issued
and
so
under?
A
B
G
E
D
Good
afternoon,
the
submittals
that
were
made
to
engineering
were
some
grading
plans
that
were
roughly
50
percent,
maybe
complete
and
a
water
quality
management
plan.
That's
all
that
was
submitted
to
the
city
this
week,
but
it
has
not
gone
into
plan
check
because
it
did
not
pay
for
the
plan
check
fee,
but
all
of
the
other
civil
documents
have
not
been
submitted
and
there's
quite
a
few.
A
M
E
So
part
of
the
conditions
of
approval
for
the
project
are
that
certain
items
go
back
to
the
hspb.
The
applicant
has
submitted
a
historical
assessment
of
the
project
impacts
relative
to
the
historic
resources.
So
we
are
evaluating
that
document
now
and
so
once
we
conclude
our
analysis
and
evaluation
of
that
report,
we
will
present
that
to
the
hspb.
E
E
G
E
G
I
was
on
the
planning
commission
and
I
think,
I'm
sorry
on
the
city
council-
and
this
came
last
time
and
planning
commission
before
that
we
gave
very
very
specific
directions
about
compliance
for
security
and
maintenance
of
the
project.
I
have
concerns
about
that.
Are
you
able
to
pull
those
up
for
us
or
have
somebody
in
staff
tell
us
what
those
are
supposed
to
be.
A
A
That
it
this
this
item
number
eight
and
it
says
april,
15,
2022
and
item
number
nine
says
in
terms
of
substantially
complete
milestones
substantially.
Complete
shall
mean
certification
by
an
architect
that
the
primary
aspects
of
the
constructions
plan,
structural
and
mechanical,
are
at
least
80
percent
complete
as
consistent
with
industry
standards.
A
E
E
D
Yeah,
I
was
only
referring
to
the
grading
plans
that
were
submitted.
Grading
plans
that
were
submitted
this
week
from
our
estimate
looks
like
they're,
maybe
about
50
complete
on
whether
or
not
our
plan
checkers
would
accept
them
at
this
point,
but
all
of
the
other
engineering
conditions
of
approval
required
for
this
project
have
not
been
you
know
submitted
there.
Some
of
these
are
pretty
significant.
D
The
document
that
we
did
receive,
which
was
a
water
quality
management
plan
and
the
grading
plans
were
submitted
without
plan
check
fees.
So
we
were
trying
to
establish
what
those
fees
would
be
and
let
them
know
so
that
they
could
pay
that,
and
my
assistant
today
was
in
contact
with
their
staff
to
try
to
let
them
know
what
all
of
those
additional
fees
would
be
so
that
they
could
put
together
some
checks
for
us.
J
Thank
you
for
the
question,
commissioner.
I
mean
they
they
track
separately,
and
so
I
think
the
question
of
sequencing
is
really
more
of
a
policy
administrative
question,
but
there's
no
code
requirement
that
hspd
has
to
opine
on
this
before
the
planning
commission
does.
If
the
commission
thinks
that,
maybe
that's
a
better
sequencing,
that's
something
that
we
could
consider
in
the
future,
but
they
do
track
separately.
J
J
J
A
The
applicant,
if
there
are
no
other
questions
of
staff,
I
do
actually
I
do
have
one
question:
how
did
you
determine
that
there's
an
adequate
reason
for
the
delay
I
I
have
never.
I
don't
understand
how
kovid
could
be
a
reason
why
an
architect
they
couldn't
be
ready
with
their
submittals
and
they
couldn't
be
at
where
they
need
to
be
right
now
because
of
covid.
A
E
It's
one
that
we've
used
on
other
time
extension
requests.
I
think
that
was
the
basis
for
this
recommendation,
as
well
as
the
the
agreement
that
was
established
between
the
city
and
the
applicant
to
allow,
until
effectively
january,
to
issue
permits,
based
on
the
forced
major
clause
identified
in
the
covenant
agreement.
G
A
N
N
N
We
had
found
multiple
power
tools
on
the
property
and
went
in
there
and
lit
a
fire,
but
to
be
clear,
we
had
security
security
cameras,
our
contractor
and
others
on
site,
and
that
was
just
a
very
unfortunate
incident
that
took
place,
and
I
don't
know
what
else
if
anything
could
have
been
done
to
avoid
it.
We
have
worked
tirelessly
with
the
city's
enforcement
department,
building
and
safety.
N
We
have
demolished
all
the
buildings
that
were
required
and
now
building
and
safety
is
assets
to
demolish
other
walls
and
other
things
on
the
property
which
we
are
just,
even
though
it's
not
required
in
the
agreement
but
to
cooperate.
We
are
going
ahead
and
doing
that
they're
worried
about
people
hiding
behind
some
of
these
low
walls,
so
we're
taking
care
of
that.
They
wanted
some
additional
foliage
removed
from
the
property
and
trees
that
are
still
fully
alive,
but
they
want
them
cut
down
and
removed.
N
Large
ficus
and
a
couple
of
palm
trees
were
doing
that.
So
I
want
to
make
that
clear.
Our
plans
that
were
submitted
in
civil
and
every
project
I've
ever
worked
on
always
follows
our
application,
but
we
submitted
our
application
and
our
plans
at
least
80
complete,
including
mep,
on
the
due
date
with
our
fees.
It
took
us
a
while
to
get
their
fees
required
by
the
city
to
tell
us
what
to
make
the
checks
for,
but
they
did
regarding
the
civil
like,
which
I
said
always
follows.
N
N
Madam
chair,
regarding
your
comment
about
the
feasibility
study
needed
to
be
turned
in
number
eight.
The
only
thing
was
that
we
shall
commission
a
feasibility
study
report
by
a
nationally
recognized,
firm,
mutually
agreed
to
by
the
city
and
owner
by
april
15th,
the
city
we
proposed
cbre,
which
is
the
largest
firm
in
the
country.
I
believe
to
do
a
report
like
this
that
was
approved
by
the
city
and
that
that
report
is
in
in
process
right
now,
but
there
was
no
requirement
to
turn
it
in.
N
The
changes
that
we've
asked
for
have
all
been
driven
either
by
going
through
this
process,
utility
company
or
our
operator
oberge,
which
is
nationally
an
internationally
recognized
hospitality
management.
Company
considered
one
of
the
top
three
in
the
united
states,
considered
the
top
in
california
and
their
team,
who
is
involved
with
us,
our
designers
and
our
architects
and
our
landscape
architect,
victoria
pakshang
from
place
have
been
very,
very,
very
into
minutiae,
detail
about
what
is
required.
N
N
N
Keeping
in
mind
that
the
churches,
even
prior
to
the
recent
fire
which
happened
in
the
two-story
area,
that
was
added
on
in
the
1940s
or
50s,
was
decimated
by
a
fire
in
2016
september,
16
2016..
So
really.
What
we're
doing
is
a
renovation
and
a
preservation
of
the
church
and
the
things
that
we're
doing
there
that
are
additive
to
what
we're
doing,
which
would
be
the
small
addition
upstairs
is
considered.
Not
significant.
We've
created
enough
articulation
and
landscape
to
deal
with
it.
N
We
have
no
say
over
that
those
were
just
dictated
to
us
by
the
utility
company,
so
we
have
no
say
over
that
open
to
all
questions,
we're
good
just
to
give
everyone
a
heads
up.
We
are
meeting
with
our
demolition
people
next
tuesday
at
site
to
go
over
and
get
started
on
all
the
things
that
were
tagged
with
orange
paint
that
are
going
to
be
further
removed,
including
the
plants,
trees
and
addition
additional
hardscape
that
the
city
once
dealt
with,
and
that's
what
I
have
to
say
for
now.
E
A
A
N
Inflation,
that's
out
of
control.
Banks
are
definitely
taking
a
breather
right
now
over
the
last
60
days
in
wanting
to
issue
construction
financing,
especially
for
a
hotel,
that's
costing
about
one
million
dollars
per
room,
so
it's
the
most
expensive
hotel
ever
built
in
the
coachella
valley.
That
said,
we
do
have
strong
interest
still
and
we
just
have
to
see
what
the
feds
do
the
fed
does
over
the
next.
A
G
This
project
has
been
dragging
on
for
years
and
years
and
years
and
it's
a
massive
visual
light
in
our
downtown,
and
it's
not
gotten
better,
I'm
at
a
place
in
my
head,
where
I
fear
that
this
property
is
being
entitled
and
then
potentially
sold,
and
then
we
could
start
all
over
again
and
every
time
this
project
comes
before
any
of
us,
meaning
any
of
the
boards
per
council.
It
comes
with
changes
and
more
requests
for
more
extensions.
G
G
J
J
I
will
note
that
you
have
to
get
a
judge
to
sign
off
on
that
on
the
front
end,
and
then
you
can
exercise
control
over
the
property
to
remedy
code
enforcement
violations,
but
again
we
could
take
the
recommendation
and
then
we
could
move
it
toward
the
staff
and
to
the
council
in
that
way.
So
you
we
would
take
your
recommendation
in
that
case.
Could
we
re
if.
G
J
If
you
were
to
approve
the
extension-
and
this
were
not
appealed,
this
would
not
be
going
to
city
council.
But
again
your
recommendation
can
be
made
part
of
the
public
record.
We
can
inform
the
council
of
this
and
we
can
get
any
necessary
direction
and
see
again
where
the
facts
and
circumstances
warrant
a
receivership
or
some
other
form
of
code
enforcement.
But
again
we
can.
We
can
note
your
concerns
and
we
can
address
it
appropriately.
G
C
E
No,
the
the
the
entitlement
is
currently
being
told
until
the
commission
acts
on
this
time
extension
so
effectively.
Once
the
commission
acts,
then
it
would
extend
through
may
of
next
year.
If
the
commission
chooses
to
deny
the
application,
then
most
likely
the
applicant
would
appeal
that
to
city
council
and
then
ultimately,
if
the
council
chose
to
deny
it,
then
the
entitlement
is
done.
C
Okay,
well,
here's
my
here's.
My
concerns
about.
What's
missing
to
commissioner
mercy's
point
is
hspb
approval.
There's
this
certificate
of
compliance
with
certain
historical
standards.
That's
outstanding
from
the
consultant
I'd
like
to
see
that
I'd
like
to
see
the
independent
evaluation
of
the
submitted
documents
that
they're
eighty
percent
complete.
C
C
H
Yeah,
it's
more
really
a
question
for
staff
that
I'd
like
to
make
now.
Given
the
discussion.
That's
happened,
david.
The
changes
that
are
proposed
as
part
of
this
request,
with
the
second
story
edition
and
and
the
trash
enclosure
and
such
are
those
additions
or
changes.
Did
they
rise
or
would
they
rise
to
the
level
of
requiring
a
formal
revision
or
has
has
that
determination
been
made?
And
you
essentially
have
authorized
these
kind
of
changes
to
go
forward
as
part
of
this
extension
request.
E
So,
in
staff's
review
of
the
requested
changes,
we
looked
at
it
as
a
part
of
the
overall
project
itself.
The
overall
project
itself
does
have
two-story
buildings
throughout
this
three
and
a
half
over
three
and
a
half
acre
site.
So
it's
not
out
of
the
scope
of
what
is
already
approved
for
the
project.
So
in
our
review
it
was
minor
relative
to
what
the
overall
scope
of
the
project
is,
and
that
was
why
we
presented
as
such
to
the
planning
commission.
A
J
G
G
G
N
A
N
A
A
J
J
If
the
the
commission
denies
it
this
evening
and
the
the
decision
is
timely,
appealed
to
the
city
council,
then
the
entitlement
would
not
be
effectively
gone.
There
would
still
be
a
continuing
process
within
the
city,
and
then
the
council
would
make
the
final
decision
for
the
city
on
that.
So,
if
you
were
to
deny
it
would
not
mean
the
end
of
the
entitlement.
If
it
were
appeal
to
council-
and
I
you
know
it's
likely-
the
denial
tonight
would
be
appealed.
G
I
would
accept
that
my
only
concern
is
I'm
trying
to
walk
this
through
my
head
on
how
it
would
move
forward
if
council
flipped
our
decision
and
then
sent
it
back
to
the
other
boards.
It
would
essentially
just
be
buying
more
time
for
the
applicant,
and
maybe
that's
the
best
we
can
do.
I
agree
with
commissioner
hirschbein.
G
This
wasn't
fully
baked
even
coming
to
us
with
respect
to
these
changes
to
come
to
us
with
an
extension
loaded
with
changes
that
I
agree,
I
think
were
denied
in
the
past.
With
respect
to
the
second
floor,
this
this
project
has
done
for
years
and
years
and
years
of
review,
I'm
even
a
little
bit
surprised
that
the
neighborhood's
not
here
on
these
changes
because
they
stood
up
heavily
in
the
past.
For
this
I
think
we've
lost
a
generation
of
neighbors
by
this
point
so
I'm
battling
here.
M
J
You're
still
muted.
Thank
you
sorry
about
that.
So
the
motion
would
be
a
denial
of
the
extension
with
a
recommendation
that
the
city
pursue
a
code
enforcement
receivership
and
a
request
that,
should
the
council
grant
the
appeal
and
approve
the
extension
that
the
design
changes
be
referred
back
to
the
arc
and
the
hspb
for
their
input
for
their
approval
for
their
approval.
J
B
Theoretically
has
extended
them,
so
we
have
until
october
15th
to
pull
our
building
permit
a
date
in
january
to
begin
commence
construction.
So
the
extension
as
far
as
I'm
understood
has
theoretically
already
been
processed,
and
this
was
a
box
checker
to
go
through
the
process
to
to
do
it
formally.
But
this
agreement
to.
J
J
J
If
your
concern
is
that
you
had
other
agreements
with
the
city-
and
this
is
inconsistent
with
those-
you
do
have
the
right
to
appeal
this
to
the
city,
council
and
the
city
council
was
the
body
that
approved
those
other
agreements,
and
so
you
would
be
bringing
the
proceedings
before
the
same
body
for
a
final
determination.
So
there
would
be
an
ultimate
decision
on
the
project
at
the
city
council
level,
but
the
planning
commission
is
making
their
findings
tonight
and
they
are
entitled
to
make
this
motion.
A
A
If
the
applicant
had
said
that,
yes,
you
had
financing
lined
up
or
you
would
self-finance
this
project,
so
we
know
it
would
go
through.
I
don't
know
that
we
know
this
will
go
through,
so
I'm
I'm
perfectly
comfortable.
If
what
I
would
like,
I
want
to
know
if
mr
roberts
agrees,
that
we
don't
agree
to
the
changes.
G
Yes,
it
would,
I
think,
that's
been
clarified,
it
would
be,
it
would
be
a
denial
on
all
aspects
and
and
be
redirected
back
to
the
city
council
with
two
recommendations.
One
is
to
apply
for
a
receivership
and
one
is
if
the
council
should
decide
to
flip
our
decision
and
approve
the
extension
that
it
would
go
back.
What
is
the
problem?
E
J
I
think
findings,
three
through
seven
we've
heard
competing
information
on
that
and
that's
a
room
where
the
planning
commission
is
exercising
its
judgment
on
the
circumstances
of
the
case,
and
I
I
I'll
echo
the
comment
that
the
chair
made
a
few
minutes
ago
about
financing.
For
example,
finding
five
requires
that
the
applicant
has
demonstrated
convincingly
and
clearly
that
the
project
will
be
substantially
underway
within
the
extended
period.
J
If
the
financing
testimony
we've
heard
is
concern
the
commission,
I
think
that
calls
finding
five
into
question
again.
I'm
not
telling
the
planning
commission
how
to
rule
on
this,
and
you
can
look
at
the
facts
in
two
different
ways,
and
that
is
your
prerogative
in
your
judgment,
but
I
believe
that
each
of
those
five
last
findings
we've
heard
facts
in
both
ways.
A
E
A
J
That
would
be
up
for
how
the
council
does
that,
possibly
delegated
through
the
administration
through
code
enforcement.
You
know
it
doesn't
follow
a
a
specific
pattern.
Obviously
the
council
would
be
considering
it
and
then
would
direct
staff
appropriately
if
they
were
to
approve
the
project.
I
don't
know
if
they
would
move
forward
with
receivership
or
not.
That
will
ultimately
be
their
decision
to
make.
G
C
M
A
A
Thank
you.
Moving
along
to
new
business
item,
4a
aoa
taurus
construction,
requesting
a
variance
to
increase
the
maximum
lot
coverage
from
35
to
42
and
to
decrease
the
front
yard
setback
requirement
from
15
to
5
feet
and
the
side
yard
from
10
feet
to
6
feet
and
the
rear
yard
set
back
from
15
feet
to
12
feet
located
at
555.
E
Madam
chair,
I
would
just
like
to
note
that,
while
this
is
identified
as
4a
on
the
agenda,
this
is
a
public
hearing.
The
city
did
provide
notice
in
accordance
with
the
public
hearing
requirements,
because
this
is
a
variance,
so
we
should
hold
this
effectively
as
a
public
hearing
item
after
staff
report
and
planning.
Commissioner
questions.
G
J
J
I
believe
that
this
can
move
forward.
This
has
been
placed
on
an
appropriate
brown
act
duly
agendized
item
here
it
meets
those
requirements.
Those
within
the
notice
area
and
through
publication
did
receive
a
proper
notice
of
public
hearing.
So
I
believe
this
can
proceed
forward.
This
is
just
a
mere
technicality.
F
So
I
just
like
to
explain
the
the
variance
request.
So
this
is
the
last
home
on
this
block.
Aside
from
the
the
one
at
the
corner
that
belongs
to
desert
water
agency,
that
is,
vacant
sunrise
way
does
have
a
right-of-way
dedication
from
center
line
of
the
street
that
measures
50
feet
in
both
directions.
F
So
what
that
does?
Is
that
pushes
the
yellow
line
here
that
you
see
on
the
screen
is
the
current
property
line?
It
pushes
that
property
line
further
into
the
lot
20
feet,
making
the
lot
much
smaller
in
size.
So
the
applicant
now
has
to
base
his
front
front
yard
setback
from
this
new
property
line,
pushing
that
back
to
where
approximately,
where
the
red
line
sits
again
reducing
the
size
of
buildable
area
and
shrinking
the
lot
significantly.
F
F
This
is
what
the
proposed
the
surrendering
of
what
the
proposed
house
will
look
like
once
complete
and
just
to
provide
you
some
more
context.
This
is
the
lot
now
it
is
vacant.
It's
not
well
taken
care
of
and
it
is
surrounded
by
existing
single-family
homes.
You
could
see
the
bottom
picture
that
those
homes
were
built
right
up
to
the
curb
it
seems
like
so
after
talking
to
engineering,
these
homes
were
built
so
long
ago
that
the
right-of-way
dedication
didn't
apply
to
them
at
the
time
they
were
built.
F
And
just
to
provide
you
a
little
bit
more
context.
This
is
an
ariel
of
the
adjacent
homes.
The
applicant
is
not
asking
to
build,
basically
that
I'm
sorry,
the
applicant
is
asking
to
build
basically
in
line
with
what
you
see
here
so
they're,
not
asking
for
any
special
favors
other
than
to
build
their
single
family
home
the
applicant.
I'm
sorry
so.
Staff
does
recommend
approval
subject
to
the
conditions
in
the
report
and
the
applicant
is
available
to
speak.
They
just
do
not
have
a
camera.
G
F
So
staff
does
believe
that
this
wouldn't
set
a
precedent.
This
is
the
only
lot
that's
left
aside
from
the
desert
agency
lot
on
the
corner
and
these
a
lot
I'm
sorry,
these,
the
developed
houses
that
you
see
on
the
screen
now
do
sit
approximately
25
feet
back
from
the
face
of
curb.
So
I
agree
it
would
help
to
have
the
house
shown
in
relation
to
other
homes,
but
it's
not
setting
a
precedent.
G
Okay,
okay,
so
your
explanation
about
this
not
being
an
anomaly
you're,
saying
because
it's
this
undersized
law,
I'm
just
concerned
that
if
we
grant
this
we're
gonna
have
you
know
we
could
have
a
problem
with
other,
undersized
lots
coming
in
and
the
houses
may
not
fit
as
well.
But
I'll
sit
with
that,
while
others
ask
questions.
C
In
terms
of
the
lot
coverage
request,
does
that
percentage
of
42
exclude
the
area,
that's
in
the
highway
dedication
or
how
does
that
work?
I
mean,
why
would
what's
their
justification?
I
understand
this
one
because
all
the
other
houses
are
in
line
with
this
proposal
and
therefore
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
it.
I
can
visualize
that
that
house
and
line
these
other
houses,
but
but
what
about
the
lot
coverage
that
one
does
that
tie
into
this
dedication
area
or
it's
or
or
not,.
C
C
A
Are
there
other
questions
I
have?
I
have
one
does
this
in
this?
Maybe
for
the
engineering
department
does
this:
can
they
still
they
have
the
the
25-foot
setback
for
the
potential
to
widen
north
sunrise
way?
Could
they
still
do
that
or
would
this
stop
the
city
from
being
able
to
widen
north
sunrise
way.
D
No,
I
think
they
would
still
be
able
to
do
that.
What
this
would
be
able
to
give
the
city
is
the
ability
to
actually
put
in
the
the
required
sidewalks
along
sunrise
right
now,
if
we
wanted
to
continue
our
sidewalk
program,
which
we've
been
doing
down
sunrise
way
in
this
particular
block
and
the
block
north
of
it,
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
at
this
time,
because
all
the
right-of-way
or
all
of
the
property
lines
are
essentially
at
the
curb
and
probably
with
sunrise
way,
was
reestablished
or
given
a
different
street
designation.
H
C
H
C
F
F
B
B
A
H
H
I
C
C
D
A
Moving
along,
we
have
a
discussion
item,
the
for
o2
architecture,
representing
yun
kim
owner
for
a
proposed
mixed-use
development,
consisting
of
a
hotel,
retail
and
138
residential
development
to
be
used
for
short
and
long
term
rental
on
a
4.6
acre
site
located
at
2232.
North
palm
canyon
drive
staff
report.
Please.
K
K
Yes,
okay,
all
right.
So
the
this
item
is
is
actually
part
of
the
plant
development
district,
the
new
review
and
approval
process
for
plant
development
district
applications.
So,
as
you
may
recall,
when
the
zoning
ordinance
was
amended
a
few
months
back,
the
the
plant
development
district
application
review
process
was
changed
to
include
that
a
pre-op
is
submitted.
K
An
outreach
meeting
be
held
at
the
neighborhood
where
the
subject
site
is
located
and
then
a
discussion
be
held
at
the
planning
commission
level
before
a
formal
application
is
submitted.
So
this
is
the
third
step
of
that
process.
The
application
was
submitted,
staff
reviewed
it
provided
comments
to
the
applicant,
an
outreach
meeting
was
held
at
the
site
and
that
the
report
of
that
outreach
meeting
was
included
in
your
staff
report.
K
So
the
the
item
before
you
tonight
again
is
just
for
discussions.
Only
there
are
no
decisions
to
be
made.
You
will
be
providing
comments
both
to
the
applicant
and
staff
and
then
giving
directions
and
staff
will
be
reemphasizing
that
the
the
discussion
is
focused
on
the
proposed
use
itself,
and
so
the
use
as
proposed
by
the
applicant
is
a
concept
where
it
is
a
mixed-use
development
that
will
consist
of
hotel
residential
development
and
some
aspects
of
their
commercial
and
retail.
K
There
were
a
few
issues
that
staff
identified
and
that
were
listed
in
the
start
report
number
one.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
have
a
hotel,
an
apartment,
complex
that
will
have
a
short
time
and
long
term
rental,
but
that
in
itself
is
an
issue
in
that
it
is
a
conflict
with
the
section
5.25.075
of
the
municipal
code
that
details
and
talks
about
vacation
rentals.
K
K
The
layout
calls
for
a
two-story
building
on
the
front
side
that
will
have
10
hotel
rooms
at
the
top
and
at
the
bottom
there
will
be
some
commercial
spaces.
The
lobby
and
coffee
shop
and
a
fitness
center
will
be
located
at
the
bottom
of
the
two-story
building
front
in
north
palm
canyon,
drive
and
then
to
the
back
of
it
would
be
eight
different
structures
or
two
in
mass,
and
we
have
up
to
16
units
per
building
that
will
consist
of
studios,
one
bedroom
and
two
bedroom
apartments.
K
K
These
are
for
the
sections
of
the
plan
and,
as
I
said,
they
are
two-story
building,
and
these
are
the
floor
plans.
So
they
want
to
to
to
the
left.
Side
of
the
screen
is
the
ground
floor,
and
then
this,
the
one
to
the
right
of
the
skin,
will
be
the
second
floor.
The
buildings
these
are
the
elevations
and
colors
of
the
proposed
buildings.
K
So
I
wouldn't
want
to
waste
too
much
of
your
time
on
the
design
itself.
At
this
point,
as
we
at
start
level
did
provide
comments
to
the
applicant.
However,
the
the
use
itself
is
what
I
want
the
commission
to
give
directions
on.
It
is
going
to
be.
It
is
proposed
as
a
mixed-use
development.
Again
that
will
consist
of
a
hotel
use
an
apartment
rental.
The
applicant
would
definitely
speak
more
on
that
concept,
and
then
questions
be
asked.
A
A
K
K
A
Can
I
just
interject
the
city
council,
I'm
not
sure
what
year
determined
that
you
they
would
not
allow
vacation
rentals
in
apartment
buildings,
they're
allowed
in
condos,
but
not
in
apartment
buildings,
and
so
I
that's
and
and
that's
been
codified
by
by
the
city,
so
that
that
issue
is
before
us
and
I
believe,
am
I
correct
that
the
application
says
that
the
applicant
is
interested
in
holding
the
hotel
but
selling
off
the
apartment
buildings.
The
separate
apartment
buildings
to
different
investors.
H
Yeah
question,
I
think,
for
staff
just
to
clarify,
in
my
mind,
edward
the
definition
and
I
apologize
for
not
having
time
to
look
this
up
ahead
of
time.
The
definition
of
hotel
versus
multi-family
apartment
is
it
based
on
the
length
of
stay,
in
other
words,
does
the
apartment
say
for
30
days
or
longer,
and
hotel
is
30
days
or
less
or
what?
I
guess.
K
Yes,
sir,
and
that's
why
I
mentioned
earlier
that
the
that
the
applicants
are
here,
they
probably
could
provide
more
clarification,
but
based
on
the
project,
description
and-
and
that's
also
contained
in
the
justification
that
is
later-
that
some
attached
to
your
staff
memo
you'll,
see
that
I'm
going
by
that
description.
So,
but
but
certainly
they
could
do
what
the
commission
I
just
mentioned.
They
can
decide
to
use
the
whole
site
for
hotel,
but
that's
not
what
they
proposed.
A
J
This
is
something
madam
chair.
If
I
can
chime
in
just
for
a
second.
This
is
something
that
I
would
you
know
we
would
have
to
analyze
in
more
detail.
Once
we
received
the
formal
application,
it
is
possible
that,
in
addition
to
a
pdd
and
other
discretionary
land
use
entitlements,
that
would
create
effectively
specialized
zoning
for
this
project,
we
may
have
to
look
at
possibly
drafting
an
exemption
in
title
five
of
the
code
that
has
the
business
regulations
about
vacation
rentals,
as
mr
robertson
alluded
to
earlier.
A
I
I
have
that
one
question
for
edward,
which
was
what
requires
a
pdd
with
this:
is
it
because
they
don't
have
a
commercial
use
in
the
entire
commercial
zone,
or
is
it
because
of
the
height
of
the
buildings
and
the
density
of
the
buildings
that
we
would
need
a
pdd?
I
just
want
to
know
why
why
staff
thinks
that,
if
we,
if
we
were
in
favor
of
this,
a
pdd
was
needed.
K
So,
to
be
very
clear,
madam
chair,
they
do
meet
all
the
development
standards
actually,
so
it
is
because
of
the
user
and
mr
when
mr
lance
o'donnell
speaks,
it
probably
clarified
that
further.
But
in
in
our
initial
discussions
with
the
applicant,
we
didn't
think
that
a
pdd
was
necessary
because
they
do
meet
all
the
development
standard.
A
K
E
So,
madam
chair,
the
only
thing
I'd
mention
is,
if
you're
doing
residential
under
the
mixed
use,
cap
classification,
you're
limited
to
15
dwelling
units
per
acre.
What
they're
proposing
is
up
to
30
to
1
units
per
acre,
which
is
permissible
under
a
plant
development
district
in
the
general
plan
for
this
property.
So
that
is
why
a
pd
is
required
because
they
are
proposing
to
operate
buildings
as
residences
that
are
exceed
that
basically
necessitate
a
planned
development.
District.
K
They
could
have
a
condom
map
and
be
able
to
sell.
So
if
brick
is
still
with
us,
you
can
definitely
chime
in
on
that.
But
my
understanding
is
that
it
could
be.
They
could
have
a
a
condo
map
and
be
able
to
sell,
but
then,
if
it
is
classified
as
apartments
that
might
call
that
into
question,
so
we
may
have
to.
J
I
could
I
could
say
that
they,
they
certainly
couldn't
sell
them
off
as
individual
lots,
without
subdividing
them
correct
whether
there
would
be
some
sort
of
arrangement.
You
know
corporate
sale,
air.
You
know
subdivision
of
air
space
similar
to
a
condo
where
they
could
do
something
like
that.
I
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
tell
you
without
further
information,
but
it
was
something
we
would
have
to
look
at
in
more
detail
once
we
receive
a
formal
application.
D
K
K
Again,
this
is
just
a
preliminary
application
discussion
on
those
those
will
be.
That
will
be
part
of
the
comments
that
you
provide
to
staff
and
we
can
do
more
research
and
analysis
into
that
and
then,
as
the
syria
attorney
mentioned,
once
the
formal
application
is
submitted,
we
might
be
able
to
provide
you
more
information
on
that
question.
J
J
O
O
Maybe
not
that
one
though
yeah
there.
We
go
so
currently
we're
thinking
about
this
project
as
a
hotel
and
we're
we
want
to
get
it
entitled
as
a
hotel.
There's
a
an
operator,
that's
interested
in
it.
At
the
moment
there
was
initial
discussions
that
this
would
be
apartments,
but
we've
designed
this
entire
project
to
condominium
standards,
so
our
sound
transmission
levels,
the
durability.
O
O
What
we're
doing
at
the
street
frontage
along
palm
canyon
is.
We
have
a
combination
of
commercial
spaces
there
that
central
space
halfway
between
kind
of
right,
where
it
says
palm
and
canyon.
If
you
just
go
east,
you
go
to
the
right.
There's
a
building
in
there
yeah
that
building
there
that's
intended
to
be
a
coffee
shop
that
would
transition
in
the
evening
to
a
bar
and
that's
fully
open
to
the
public,
as
are
all
of
these
spaces,
those
little
green
pac
men
that
are
back
behind
the
front
buildings.
O
Those
are
open
space,
so
those
are
there's
a
there's
turf
back
there.
It's
probably
going
to
be
artificial,
turf,
there's
trees,
there's
benches
that
whole
areas
of
public
interface
into
the
interior
of
the
courtyard
of
the
main
building.
So
we
have
this
long
courtyard.
That
extends
from
the
west
all
the
way
through
the
project
and
then
there's
these
fingers
that
translate
through
the
project
north
south
each
of
the
buildings
have
their
own
internal
courtyard,
so
they're
designed
they're
accessed
internally,
so
the
16
units
in
each
building
have
their
own
internal
courtyards.
O
O
Creating
this
interplay
of
these
eight
units
that
are
you
know,
loosely
held
together
by
these
courtyards.
The
site
in
itself
has
some
a
couple
of
challenges.
One
is
it's
somewhat
irregular
in
configuration
just
the
way
that
the
the
parcels
were
acquired,
but
at
the
north
west
corner
to
the
south
east
corner,
the
site
drops
20
feet
along
palm
canyon.
The
site
drops
approximately
10
feet
so
edward.
If
you
can
go
to
the
overall
elevations
each
of
the
units
along
plum
canyon,
yeah,
probably.
B
O
Yeah
next
one
this
one.
So
what
you
see
in
that
top
illustration
from
left
to
right
is
each
of
these
hotel
units
they're
sitting
on
top
of
the
commercial.
The
blue
spaces
at
the
lower
level
are
those
is
the
view
corridors
into
those
courtyards,
and
so
we
have
commercial
at
the
ground
floor.
We
have
these
10
units
up
above
and
each
one
of
those
are
stepping
one
foot
as
one
goes
from
north
to
south
along
palm
canyon.
O
O
So
these
these
are
essentially
sections
through
the
center
of
the
space
and
so
there's
access
balconies
with
the
second
floor
units,
there's
a
central
gathering
space
in
the
building
and
then
there's
stairs
leading
up
to
the
units
up
above
so
there's
kind
of
a
repetitive
kit
of
parts.
Here.
If
you
will
of
how
we
put
these
buildings
together
in
a
way
that
addresses
this
dropping
of
the
site
again,
if
I
think
about
some
of
the
questions
that
came
up.
F
O
Dave
newell
hit
it
right
on
the
head.
The
reason
we
were
utilizing
the
pdt
is
a
density,
the
greatest
density
we
could
get
to
under
the
split
zone
by
and
we
could,
we
would
have
to
have
done
a
cup
and
put
everything
under
one
type
of
zone
or
use
the
mixed
use
zone,
but
the
greatest
density
we
get
to
would
be
15
units
to
the
acre
and
we're
proposing
30
units
to
the
acre,
we're
still
maintaining
because
of
the
two-story
and
the
compactness
of
the
design
and
the
circulation
around
the
perimeter.
O
Thank
you.
We
still
have
54
open
space,
so
we've
got
a
great
deal
of
open
space,
which
is
you
know
when
I
was
on
architectural
advisor.
It
was
always
the
issue
of
the
pdd
and
trying
to
come
in
with
too
much
density,
so
we're
above
the
required
50
density,
open
space
and
we're
30
units
of
the
acre
which
were
allowed
by
under
the
pdd.
So
we
think
it's
a
really
good
project.
It's
certainly
up
in
this
area.
It
addresses
the
issue
of
sun
and
wind.
O
O
The
central
courtyards
protect
the
amenity
spaces,
the
internal
courtyards
on
the
buildings,
protect
the
owners
entering
the
buildings
and
there's
always
a
sheltered
place
to
retreat
again
the
perimeter
we
have
covered
parking,
we're
putting
solar
parking
covers
over
all
the
parking
we
hope
to
get
to
almost
a
net
zero
energy
balance
with
the
design
with
the
carport
solar
and
some
additional
solar,
that's
potentially
going
on
some
of
the
buildings,
and
if
there's
you
know
any
questions,
the
things
that
I've
missed.
I'm
you
know
happy
to
answer
them.
A
A
D
O
A
O
D
I
I
I
I
would
suggest
that
you
consider
that
a
certain
percentage
of
the
units
be
dedicated
to
residential
use
rather
than
to
the
short-term
rental
or
the
hotel
use,
and
that's
going
to
require
they're
different.
It
seems
easy
to
just
say
we
could
stick
them
all
in
the
same
place,
but
if
it's,
it
would
need
to
be
designed
on
the
interior
such
that
it
can
truly
be
used
for
a
longer-term
residence
with
bigger.
You
know,
closet,
space
and
and
more
kitchen
and
more
usable.
I
I
At
some
point,
I
think
the
palm
springs
is
going
to
be
a
little
bit
overbuilt
for
both
hotel
uses
and
for
short-term
rentals.
I
don't
know,
maybe
not
the
way
it's
going
since
at
this
point
there
seems
to
be
quite
an
appetite
for
it,
but
I
think
for
that
part
of
town,
it's
possible
that
what
would
be
a
greater
benefit
to
the
community
would
be
real
affordable
year
in
and
year
out,.
B
C
C
This
is
the
exact
site
plan
that
this
city
is
crying
out,
for
this
is
what
we
need
and
clearly
we're
moving
into
really
really
uncertain
economic
territory
in
the
near
maybe
mid
and
long
term.
We
don't
know
where
the
economy
is
going.
What
this
developer
is
looking
for,
I
think
from
us,
is
some
flexibility
in
how
he
operates
these
units
moving
forward.
That's
a
v.
He
can
even
get
financing
at
this
point
I
mean
we
just
heard
this
really
experienced
developer.
C
M
Yeah
the
public
benefit
component,
though,
is
important
to
me,
because
that
was
the
whole
long
term
long
discussion,
when
this
new
ordinance
for
the
pdds
was
put
together.
That's
always
been
an
issue
with
plan
development
districts
is
the
public
benefit.
I
don't
know.
Maybe
this
question
for
staff,
but
if
it's
zoned
for
commercial,
how
can
commercial
use
be
considered
a
public
benefit,
so
every
commercial
building
that
is
built
on
something
zoned
for
commercial
is
the
public
benefit.
So
that
strikes
me
as
a
little
odd.
M
The
access
to
the
courtyard
in
the
center
I
mean,
isn't
that
going
to
be
I
mean
the
pool
has
to
have
a
fence
around
it,
and
I
mean
just
the
general
public
can
wander
around
the
property
and
sit
around
sit,
and
I
don't
understand
how
the
courtyard
area
can
be
a
public
benefit.
It
looks
like
it'd
be
useful
for
the
people
living
there,
but
I
don't
see
how
it's
a
public
benefit
and
then
the
concept
of,
what's
now,
I
guess,
you're
calling
coffee
shops
with
is
really
it's.
M
E
A
E
H
Yeah,
I
too
share
a
concern
about
the
degree
of
public
benefit.
I
think,
but
one
thing
I
wanted
to
comment
on
with
the
design
is
I'm
wondering
if
the
architect
slash
developer,
looked
at
building
over
the
driveways
with
the
second
floor?
The
second
story,
in
other
words,
building
over
the
surface
throats
of
your
entry
into
the
parking
with
building
to
sort
of
maximize
the
frontage
of
building
on
on
palm
canyon.
One
thing,
and
then
I
appreciate
the
the
sort
of
the
view
corridors
in
from
palm
canyon,
one
of
them.
H
I'm
sure
that
the
public
isn't
going
to
be
allowed
to
walk
around
the
swimming
pool,
but
are
they
going
to
be
able
to
get
on
the
property
to
a
similar
environment
which
you
described
at
the
coffee
north,
which
is
very
nice?
I
agree
to
be
able
to
walk
through
that
the
underside
of
the
building
and
emerge
into
that
green
space,
where
you
can
feel
comfortable
whether
you've
bought
coffee
or
not.
H
A
One
is
I'm
concerned
about
the
feasibility.
I
love
a
nice
development
coming
into
the
north
palm
springs
area
and
I'll
be
receptive
to
anything
that's
attractive
that
goes
in
there.
I
am
concerned
about
the
feasibility
of
a
hotel
being
built
not
in
the
downtown
corridor,
because
it's
been,
you
know
the.
I
think
one
of
the
few
hotels
we've
seen
very
few
hotels
in
the
recent
years
arrive
and
the
rowan
be
built
after
20,
some
years
of
host
hotels,
not
being
built
and
we've
seen
several
fail.
A
A
I
don't
think
I
don't
think
that
that
description
of
a
use
is
appropriate
and
I
completely
agree
with
staff
the
concern
that
staff
raised
about
that.
I
did
vote
for
the
bose
hotel,
which
looked
like
these
buildings
and
provided
nice
accommodations
for
families
to
come
in
and
rent
for
a
weekend
or
a
week,
but
that
it
has
to
be
designated
as
a
hotel
to
do
that.
A
I
don't
know
why.
I
would
ask
the
city
council
to
make
special
provisions
to
allow
this
to
happen
here,
be
very
thrilled
if
you
did
some
of
it
as
housing,
either
condos
or
or
rental,
especially
rental,
like
the
idea
of
the
hotel
concept,
if
it's
100
hotel
that
you're
putting
forward,
I
think
that
that
could
be
very.
A
You
know
if
that
can
work
in
that
neighborhood
very
exciting,
but
we,
if
we
do
a
pd
that
allows
more
density,
I
would
prefer
that
more
density
come
for
f
from
from
some
rentals
on
the
property.
I
would
just
love
to
see
some
rentals.
I
think
that
would
really
help,
even
if
it's
market
rate
rentals,
but
I
think
we
need,
we
need
rentals
in
this
city.
We
need
them
desperately.
A
A
No
negatives
on
your
design,
interesting.
I
like
the
idea
of
building
over
the
the
entry
so
that
you
have
more
of
a
street
presence.
I
think
that's
just
in
the
design
issue.
I
wouldn't
have
thought
of
it,
but
I
always
like
the
design
elements
that
commissioner
miller
suggests
in
these
kinds
of
discussions
and
we'd
have
to
look
at
if
it
came
up,
we'd
have
to
look
at
real
community
benefits.
A
Coffee
north
is
one
if
you
could
create
coffee
north
meeting
spaces,
I'm
sure
people
in
that
area,
I
think,
there's
a
dearth
of
any
place
where
people
can
meet.
There
are
things
that
you
can
provide.
That
would
be
community
benefits,
but
I
think
before
we
get
to
community
benefits,
we
have
to
get
a
a
project
that
one
is
feasible
and
one
that
works
with
the
city
ordinances.
D
D
I
would
also
like
to
somewhat
echo
some
of
the
sentiments
that
you
spoke
of
as
well
with
the
the
aspect
for
the
commercial
aspect
of
it.
A
furniture
store
would
be
something
of
interest.
A
bank
has
been
mentioned
as
well.
I
know
we
have
a
food
desert,
but
there's
no
way
that
that
would
be
able
to
apply
to
that,
but
just
a
couple
different
things
to
take
into
consideration.
D
K
A
E
M
E
E
A
E
A
I
think
part
of
that
discussion
and
we
probably
shouldn't
have
had
it
shouldn't-
have
allowed
it
in
front
of
the
applicant
really
came
out
of
surprise
in
terms
of
what
the
ordinance
said
we
had
always
been
going
forward,
especially
with
tower
tower
market
and
the
7-eleven
before
that.
Looking
at
percentage
of
space,
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
continued
concern,
but
I
think
that
the
ordinance
that
it
came
from
or
the
ordinance
that
was
crafted
dealt
with
something
different
than
what
we
had
been
working
with
for
years
in
terms
of
percentage
of
liquor.
C
A
C
M
C
A
E
E
A
I
B
I
J
J
C
B
J
If
we
want
to
have
a
more
extended
discussion
on
this,
we
can
certainly
agendize
this
for
a
later
meeting.
I
guess
I
was
taking
the
position
that
you
know
periodically.
Staff
does
code
updates
anyway,
and
so
we
could
include
this,
and
we
would
take
this
as
just
an
expression
of
your
concerns
to
look
at
this
and
then,
ultimately,
when
we
bring
code
amendments
back
to
the
commission
of
the
council,
that
will
be
in
there
and
then
you
could
have
that
discussion
at
that
time.
I
Yeah,
I'm
good
with
having
it
with
the
other
clean
up
items
as
long
as
it
comes
to
us,
because
I'm
I'm
not
confident
that
I
agree
or
that.
I
understand
that
the
merits
that
I'm
hearing
discussion,
I
might
have
a
different
opinion.
So
if,
as
long
as
it
comes
back
to
us
before
it
goes
to
city
council.