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B
C
Hi
David,
no,
we
haven't
started
yet
David.
Do
you
Dan
had
just
said
you
might
come
in
and
you
wanted
to
speak
to
the
budget
item.
Do
you
do
you
want
to?
You
want
to
speak
right
away
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting,
or
do
you
want
to
do
you
want
to
wait
until
we
get
to
that
spot?
Doesn't
matter
to
me
and.
C
Comment:
that's
just
great
okay,
great
all
right,
I'd
like
to
call
this
meeting
of
the
May
15
2008,
teen
sustainability,
Commission
of
the
city
of
Palm
Springs,
to
order
delighted
to
see
all
of
you
here
this
afternoon
and
I'd
like
to
ask
vice-chair
Clark.
If
he
would
lead
us
in
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
C
C
E
G
C
B
C
D
Good
afternoon,
everyone
I
just
want
to
join
you
a
couple
things
I
wanted
to
just
briefly
on
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
specific
questions
if
you
have
them,
but
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
discuss
is
with
regard
to
the
budget.
So
that's
before
you
for
approval
a
couple
things
I
would
just
note
your
recycling
fund
and
the
sustainability
fund.
D
So
if
you
notice
both
of
them,
what
I
wanted
to
do
is
to
make
sure
that
the
the
the
fund
balance
reserve,
in
essence
to
appropriate
those
dollars
in
the
case
of
sustainability
program
expenses
of
289
in
the
case
of
recycling,
your
program
expense
of
a
million.
That's
basically,
all
your
fund
balance
in
addition
to
your
operating,
because
that's
your
programmatic
revenue.
So
the
idea
is
you
appropriate.
It
I
mean
spend
every
penny
of
it.
D
If
you
like,
if
you've
got
programs
for
it
in
what
you
don't
spend,
obviously
it
will
just
be
rolled
over
to
the
next
year,
so
so
that
I
just
want
to
point
out
that.
That's
why
I
thought
was
important
to
this.
So
you
know
what
you
have
to
work
with.
Okay,
that's
one
number.
Two
I
know
there's
been
some
discussion
with
regard
to
staffing.
Now,
since
Michelle
was
in
this
position,
you
know:
we've
not
had
a
managing
director.
D
If
you
will
part
and
parcel
that
has
been
because
you
didn't
have
a
lot
of
revenues
to
support
it.
That
being
said,
what
we
do
know
and
what
I
think
your
recommendation
is
to
have
go
back
to
that
that
model.
Well,
what
I
would
suggest
and
is
that,
as
we
move
forward
with
this
I
think
we
probably
need
to
take
a
little
more
comprehensive
look,
and
so
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
work
with
whether
it's
the
chair,
you
have
a
budget
subcommittee
or,
however,
you
want
to
do.
D
It
is
to
sit
back
and
take.
What
does
the
full
staff
need
to
look
like?
Is
it
a
director
and
to
staff
a
director
and
one
staff?
What
kind
of
staff
would
best
suit
the
needs
and
a
clerical,
and
this
and
of
that-
and
maybe
that's
two
people-
maybe
that's
four
people-
I,
don't
know
but
I
think
now's
the
opportunity
to
take
a
look
at
whole
and
see
what
it
is
that
you
want
to
do
so.
D
What
I
would
recommend
is
is
you've
passed
this
budget
now
and
it
obviously
precedes
with
the
dollars
for
for
the
current
personnel
on
the
staff,
and
then
that
will
give
us
some
time
to
come
up
with
what
your
recommendation
will
be
and
then
that's
what
we'll
take
the
council
now?
Those
dollars
obviously
would
come
from
the
other
programmatic.
We
would
move
those
up
into
the
personnel
line
items
so
that
being
said,
I
think
it's.
C
Appreciate
the
clarity
of
the
budget
that
we
received
in
our
packet
this
month,
I
may
be
it's
taken
me
five
years
to
understand
city
budgets,
but
for
my
read
it's
it's
it's
the
clearest
presentation
that
I've
seen
in
a
while,
so
I
appreciate
that
very
much
commissioners.
Do
you
have
questions
of
dr.
Reddy
this
afternoon?
We
have
this
agendized
under
new
business
item
item
one,
so
we
will
certainly
come
back
to
it
for
our
discussion,
but
while
while
David
is
here,
if
you
have
questions,
we
want
to
have
those.
C
A
C
A
H
C
D
D
On
the
on
July
on
June
6,
the
council
meeting,
and
not
not
tomorrow,
about
two
weeks
from
tomorrow,
we're
gonna
talk
about
the
the
the
see
vague
energy
cooperative.
Councilmember
Coors
had
asked
that
we
have
take
that
get
that
get
that
moving
back
in
front
of
Council.
What
I'm
gonna
need
and
I'm
gonna
ask
Jay
to
do
this,
and
and
obviously
Daniel
and
whatever
help
you
need
to
give
me
I'm,
not
exactly
sure
what
this
specific
next
step
is,
but
getting
getting
prepared
for
that
meeting
for
two
weeks
from
now.
D
G
Based
on
what
they're
from
councilmember
Coors
is
that
he
had
asked
for
a
discussion
on
the
DCE
deserts
me
and
the
energy,
the
community
choice,
aggregation
program,
so
I
assume
that's
what
that's
referring
to.
We
have
on
our
agenda,
a
motion
that
I've
made
and
some
support
materials
to
recommend
that
the
city
choose
the
carbon
free
option,
a
hundred
percent.
So
hopefully,
if
that
is
passed
shortly,
that
would
be
a
recommendation.
I'd
be
delighted
to
work
with
with
staff
on
all
information.
C
D
If
ectopic,
that
helps
all
right,
two
other
quick
things,
one
also
under
new
business
number,
seven
on
your
agenda
of
formalizing,
the
title
is
formalizing
procedures
to
communicate
sustainability,
Commission
resolutions
to
the
City
Council.
What
I
could
offer
on
that
is
you
know?
Certainly
you
speak
through
your
votes.
So
anytime
you
actually
vote
on
an
item
of
a
policy
item.
D
What
we
will
do
is
we
will
just
take
that
to
City
Council
and
we
take
them
to
City,
Council,
receive
and
file,
and-
and
at
that
point
then
they
they
would
if
it's
something
that
they
want
to
pursue
further
they'll
they'll,
pull
off
the
agenda
and
we'll
have
a
further
discussion.
I'll
give
us
direction
so
any
time
you
pass
agenda,
you
pass
an
item
we
will
put
on
the
agenda
receiving
file.
So
that's
the
easiest
and
best
way
to
do
it.
D
All
of
you
know,
sherman's
was
talking
with
sam
the
owner
and
he
was
wondering
how
he
could
get
a
bike
rack
because
he's
got
a
lot
of
people
biking
there
and
I
thought
well,
that's
easy,
I
think
we'll
just
ask
and
we
will
provide
so
if
you
could
reach
out
and
let
him
I
think
he's
asked
for
maybe
two
but
I,
don't
know
what
your
policies
are.
So
if
you
could
reach
out
to
him,
that
would
be
helpful.
Okay
and
any
questions.
C
E
Yes,
we
have
learned
from
city
manager
that
the
he
is
ready
to
go
ahead
and
move
forward
with
naming
the
community
gardens
in
honor
of
Michelle,
my
Seon
just
to
change
too
as
something
that
they
he
feels
the
city
wants
to
do
because
she
worked
so
hard
at
getting
them
getting
it
going.
The
community
gardens
are,
as
you
know,
located
it
DeMuth
Park
by
the
community
center,
and
so
my
thought
was
maybe
to
put
out
some
kind
of
a
contest
or
survey
to
get
you.
E
You
know
people
here
at
the
city
who
employees
residents
and
everybody
to
do
it
like
a
little
naming
contest.
Maybe
is
that
something
you
feel
like
you
may
want
to
do
to
try
to
get
ideas
of
how
or
what
the
name
should
be
or
how
it
should
state,
rather
than
just
in
and
and
in
memory
of
or
something
that
I
thought
might
be
a
fun
little
project
to
do
to
get
interest
in
the
community
gardens
and
in
the
sustainability
Commission
as
well.
E
C
Okay,
all
right
great,
feel
free
to
chime
in
when
we're
there
all
right.
We
are
at
public
comment
at
each
meeting
of
the
sustainability
Commission.
We
have
time
for
the
public
to
address
us
on
items
that
are
a
part
of
our
purview.
If
there's
anyone
from
the
public
who
wishes
to
speak,
they
have
three
minutes
and
they're
invited
to
come
forward
to
a
microphone.
Please
state
your
name
and
your
city
of
residence,
and
we
welcome
you.
A
A
So
those
are
two
sources
from
Palm
Springs,
also
PSD
s
and
the
woman
that
I
spoke
with,
and
this
is
vertex
pretty
amazing
information.
Booklet
for
the
members
of
Cathedral
City
I
realized
that
Burrtec
does
not
pick
up
Pete
Palm
Springs
trash.
However,
all
Palm
Springs
waste
recycling
and
greenways
go
to
Adam
hill
transfer
station
in
Cathedral
City.
Here
it
is
mixed
together
with
the
waste
from
the
other
Coachella
Valley
districts.
A
There
are
considerable
discrepancies
among
these
three
sources
of
information.
As
you
will
see
on
the
back
of
your
when
you
look
at
the
answers,
ultimately
they're,
all
mixed
together,
each
one
according
to
its
category
for
the
sake
of
implementation
and
community
education
and
discussion,
I
would
like
to
put
a
plug
in
for
a
master
list
which
would
be
less
confusing
and
could
be
published
to
our
community.
A
C
C
I'll
just
make
one
notation:
I
was
out
of
the
country
when
all
of
you
received
these
initially
and
only
was
able
to
read
them
yesterday
under
commissioner
comments,
there
is
one
error
and
Dan's
going
to
make
that
correction
elections
for
chair
and
vice-chair
would
take
place
at
the
July
2018
meeting
not
next
month.
I'll
continue
to
hold
on
to
this
gavel
for
one
more
meeting,
so
your
your
elections
will
be
held
in
in
July.
So
there's
that
one
correction
other
than
that
dan
I
guess
you
I
have.
C
Say
no
abstentions,
and
we
have
minutes
that
we
have
adopted
now
we'll
go
to
the
study
session
minutes
of
Monday
April
23rd
2018
at
the
well
would
Murray
library?
Is
there
a
motion
to
accept
those
minutes
as
presented
so
moved
by
Commissioner
Baker
seconded
by
Commissioner
Santora,
all
in
favor
say
yes,.
B
C
C
I
I
Desert
art
was
happy,
they
filled
up
their
five-ton
five-ton
truck,
so
they
were
very
happy.
The
second
thing
that
I
have
is
the
beverage
grant
application
was
approved
by
the
state,
so
the
monies
will
be
distributed,
late,
September
and
that's
for
the
upcoming
year
and
the
last
thing
I
have
for
you
is
some.
The
legislation
has
already
been
signed,
but
it
won't
become
effective
until
2022
and
it
is
a
B
1383.
I
Now.
Currently
we
have
a
B.
Excuse
me,
SB
1380,
three
humps
are
currently
we
have
a
B
341,
which
covers
the
commercial
side,
involve
all
vendors
must
recycle.
We
also
have
a
B.
1826
is
the
commercial
side
for
the
organics?
What
this
bill
will
do
is
it
will
combine
both
of
those
later
down
the
road,
and
it
also
has
three
other
elements
and
the
title
of
it
is
short-lived.
Climate,
Pollutants
organic
waste,
Smith
methane
emissions
reductions.
I
I
One
aspect
is
that
if
this
is
going
to
have
an
element
for
the
residents
to
do
their
green
waste
and
for
anyone
else
that
wants
to
participate
in
that
you
don't
have
to
be
a
commercial
location,
so
anybody
else
so
that'll
be
one
aspect
of
it.
The
other
aspect
of
it
is
that
there
now
will
be
an
enforcement
mechanism,
because
the
the
air
quality
folks
have
gotten
involved
because
of
the
methane
emissions.
I,
don't
know
if
you
were
aware
of
it.
I
I
believe
Chris
stated
this
before,
but
if
someone
is
required
to
recycle
the
law,
does
it
say
how
much
they're
required
to
recycle?
So
let's
say
that
you
were
in
the
four
cubic
yard
category
per
week.
You
only
have
to
do
a
32
gallon
Toder,
because
there's
no
law
to
enforce
it.
Now
what
this
builder
will
be,
so
they
can't
do
that
anymore.
So
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
broad
overview
and
let
you
know
that
this
is
coming
down.
The
pike
currently
where
they're
at
is
they're
conducting
workshops.
B
I
C
K
We
don't
have
a
written
report,
but
we
did
that
we
did
attend
yet
another
wild
and
scenic
film
festival
that
was
held
at
the
UCR
Palm
Desert
campus
a
couple
weekends
ago
and
Jennifer
had
the
opportunity
to
talk
with
the
people
that
organized
that
from
the
rivers
and
lands
Conservancy
and
UCR,
and
there's
a
potential
for
some
collaboration
with
the
effort
that
we
want
to
do
with
them.
So
we're
gonna
follow
up
with
that.
We've
both
had
kind
of
a
busy
month
and
not
been
able
to
cross
paths,
but
we
it
was.
K
C
L
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Our
second
item
is
to
see
if
there
is
any
further
discussion
on
a
proposed
ordinance
regarding
clean
air,
smoking
and
tobacco
use.
We've
we've
continued
that
so
that
commissioners
have
a
chance
to
think
about
the
issues
and
process
the
discussions
and
and
come
up
with
more
questions,
so
I'll
I'll
turn
to
Commissioner
Baker
if
he
has
something
to
say
or
other
commissioners
pursuant.
C
So
yes,
so
just
be
clear:
we've
we've
sort
of
already
dispatched
the
ordinance
that
regulates
that
would
regulate
retailers
and
we've
sent
that
to
our
recommendation
to
City
Council.
So
so
this
item
of
clean
air
smoking
tobacco
use
is
still
thank.
You
is
it's
still
before
us,
commissioner,
goings
I.
H
Had
a
question
about
the
proposed
smoking
ban
and
I
didn't
bring
it
up
at
during
our
last
discussion.
So
now
is
opportunity
time,
I
guess
so
my
concern
is
related
to
if
my
understanding
is
that
the
ban
will
pretty
much
allow
only
individuals
who
live
in
single
family
homes
to
smoke,
multifamily
home
multifamily
buildings,
no
also
for
the
most
part
that
is
correct.
My
concern
is
with
criminalizing
smoking
in
public
areas
for
the
house
lists
for
the
houses
community.
Does
this
become
a
de
facto
way
to
criminalize
house
lessness?
F
F
Assuming
a
person
does
not
have
a
primary
residence,
then
they
would
not
have
a
legal
location
to
smoke
tobacco
products
unless
they
were
visiting
a
friend
or
relative
that
lived
in
a
single-family
dwelling
as
it
stands
now,
of
course,
that
whole
idea
of
one
of
the
largest
obstacles
is
the
condominium
apartment
language
that
doesn't
address
those
people
that
don't
live
in
a
condominium
or
apartment,
but
that's
one
of
the
more
economic
and
balancing
acts.
People
they
cannot
afford
to
own
their
own
home
can
be
seen
as
being
penalized
by
this
position.
F
H
F
C
Well,
I
was
gonna
say,
but
you
raise
the
general
economic
issue
that
that
this
present
ordinance
speaks
to,
and
that
is
it's
disparaging
of
persons
who
have
a
different
economic
means.
So
I
just
want
to
point
out
during
our
discussion
we're
under
no
obligation
to
vote
on
this
in
any
way
whatsoever.
The
Commission
can
in
fact
I'd
like
your
advice
on
whether
or
not
you
want
to
continue
the
discussion.
We
have
no
obligation
to
vote
on
it.
It's
it's
proceeding
in
other
paths
and
whatever
City
Council
does
is
whatever
City
Council
will
do.
G
Preference
because
I
do
think
this
is
clearly
a
wellness
component
within
the
jurisdiction
of
our
Commission
is
that
I
would
actually
like
to
see
Commission
make
her
and
whoever
else
might
want
to
join
him.
It's
actually,
you
know,
come
up
with
a
proposal
for
our
consideration,
perhaps
taking
a
look
at
some
of
the
other
ordinances.
G
I
got
the
feeling
that,
because
the
ordinance
that
was
originally
proposed
was
coming
from
a
very
sort
of
strong
group,
an
interest
group
that
a
better
place
to
work
might
be
looking
at
cities
of
Pasadena
and
other
sort
of
sieges
that
do
have
a
tourist
component
and
see
how
they
have
resolved
this
so
I.
So
we
don't
have
to
very
much
reinvent
the
wheel.
F
C
Let
me
just
say
that
that's
sort
of
the
nature
of
one
PS
since
they're
a
neighborhood
organization,
that's
sort
of
what
they
want
to
do-
is
collect
input
from
as
many
folks
we're
exactly
as
you're
saying
we're
a
different
animal.
So
we
can
put
our
considered
wisdom
together.
However,
we
might
wish,
and
and
and
and
I
think
it
it
doesn't
have
to
be
written
necessarily
in
resolution
format.
It
could
simply
say
the
sustainability
Commission
supports
this,
or
that
I
mean.
C
C
F
K
F
F
The
Khazar
smoker
even
the
hookah
thing,
yeah
I,
didn't
that
that's
a
good
point.
I
didn't
take
that
in
consideration,
but
I
know
they
can
be
inside
four
walls
and
like
a
cigar
lounge.
Those
are
allowed.
So
wonder
the
of
course.
We
used
again
there's
no
hard
and
fast
rule.
We
can
say
what
we
like,
what
we
don't
like
massage
it
any
way
we
want.
Okay,
so.
I
F
I
Know
I
have
several
concerns
about
this,
not
the
least
of
which
is
the
criminalization
point,
but
I
appreciate
Commissioner
Friedman's
point
that
if
there's
that
expectation
about
this
commission
coming
up
with
some
sort
of
recommendation
one
way
or
the
other,
then
we
should
have
further
discussion
on
it.
But
to
your
point,
I,
don't
think
we
should
belabor
it
if
it
if
there
are
other
venues
that
this
is
moving
forward
without
us
and
so
I'm
curious.
What
are
those
other
venues
and
where
would
this
be
coming
from,
if
not
from
us?
Well.
C
The
the
one
PS
neighborhood
organization
has
a
subcommittee
discussing
it
and
I
think
the
groups
that
are
advocating
or
talking
directly
with
several
City
Council
members,
and
so
it
could
certainly
just
appear
on
the
agenda
by
virtue
of
the
council.
Members
request
for
action
so
but
sure
Friedman
makes
a
good
point.
So
I'll
ask
you
Commissioner
Baker:
are
you?
Would
you
be
willing
to
to
make
some
sort
of
statement
or
come
up
with
a
motion
that
or
a
statement
that
you'd
like
to
present
to
us
a
short.
F
Answer
yes,
once
I
understand
the
temperature
in
the
room,
shall
we
say
I
don't
know
if
we
would
like
to
bifurcate
it
not
to
take
up
too
much
time
but
to
say
break
it
into
three
pieces
so
see
if
they,
if
the
Commission
is
in
favor
of
just
the
public
parks
and
pools
and
that
that
part
of
it
the
bar
part
of
it
versus
and
then
third
third
prong,
would
be
the
multi-family
dwelling
I
mean
that
would
be
one
way
to
approach.
It
say
yay
or
nay,
for
to
split
into
three
okay.
C
Why
don't
we
do
that?
So
this
would
just
be.
This
is
just
a
top
of
your
head
to
give
Commissioner
Baker
a
sense
of
your
opinion.
I'll
ask
you
to
raise
your
hand
if
you
would
support
a
ban
in
this
location.
You're
not
required
to
vote
and
I
won't
ask
for
a
no
vote
or
an
abstention.
I
only
say:
are
you
in
favor
of
a
ban
in
this
place?
If
you
are
raise
your
hand
and
that'll
give
him
a
okay,
okay,
all
right?
Okay,
please!
So.
H
F
I
only
say
pools:
cuz
I
swim
in
the
pool
every
morning,
which
is
next
to
the
library
in
the
park
and
they're,
not
really
anyone
sitting
around
the
pool
smoking
a
cigarette
before
they
get
in
or
get
out,
but
I'm
just
saying
in
general,
it
would
be
public
spaces,
public
gathering,
spaces
parks,
any
kind
of
barbeque
type,
I,
can't
think
of
anything
else,
other
than
parks
of
it.
Hiking.
F
K
I
I
That
is
a
major
concern
of
mine.
Do
any
of
those,
but
you
know
if
it's
not
harmful
or
if
the
science
is
out
on
that
and
I,
don't
think
we
should
be
stepping
into
it
and
then
the
second
question
I
raised
and
I
think
you
didn't
have
an
answer
at
the
time.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
any
further
information
on
the
issue
of
First
Nation
sovereignty
for
all
the
land
around
here
and
the
units
that
are
on
that
land
I
had.
C
C
Exactly
and,
however,
they
have
hedged
related
on
that
specific
topic
of
adherence
to
city
ordinances,
they've
they've
hedged
regarding
the
issue
of
short-term
rentals
in
smoke,
SR
single-family
home
residential
areas.
So
so
we
don't
know
ongoing
what
what
the
tribe
might
do
all
right,
so
I'm
gonna,
ask
I'll
divide
it
into
the
three
groups.
G
F
C
C
I
I
F
C
H
H
If
any
think
my
recommendation
is
made
for
me,
the
issue
is
really
a
spatial
one
that
if
the
discussion
was
around
you
can
smoke
on
bar
pad
patios.
If
those
patios
are
not
within
25
feet
of
you
know
an
open,
abode
or
or
you
know,
you
can
smoke
in
a
multi-family
unit
building
that
was,
you
know,
built
to
these
certain
standards.
You
know
qualified
bands
make
more
sense
to
me
than
just
an
out-and-out
ban.
That
would
make
it
a
lot
easier
for
me.
C
A
B
I
have
one
more
comment
on
this.
Okay,
please,
with
regard
to
one
PS
they're,
not
dealing
with
the
smoking
band
that
what
they're
dealing
with
is
the
tobacco
retail
retail
licensing
issue
and
that's
being
worked
on
the
under
the
ecology
committee.
B
C
So
they're
dealing,
they
also
will
presumably
at
some
point,
make
a
decision
about
the
retail
ordinance
that
we
voted
on,
not
this
one.
Okay.
That
probably
then
makes
it
a
little
bit
more
important
that
it
get
a
fuller
discussion
in
this
space.
So,
okay,
we'll
make
a
note
for
for
July
17
all
right.
We
are
at
three
the
milkweeds
for
monarchs
project
by
cher,
Clark
I,
don't
see
Christine
here
tonight,
I.
B
B
There
have
been
quite
a
few
activities
with
regard
to
the
milkweed,
Christina
and
I
have
been
at
the
farmers
market
twice
now
a
week
ago,
Saturday
in
conjunction
with
the
Commission
at
our
table
and
last
Saturday
at
the
table
of
the
desert,
Water
Agency,
and
we
actually
have
moved
about
200,
there's
a
milkweed
plants
and
we're
not
actually
selling
them
we're
giving
them
for
a
ten
dollar
donation.
And
we
do
have
other
events
that
we're
planning.
We
will
be
at
World,
Environment
Day,
and
there
are
other
things
that
we're
doing
to
promote
the
milkweed.
B
B
I
E
A
B
I
C
And
there's
there
a
second
okay,
all
right,
second
from
Commissioner
spry,
and
so
we
are.
We
are
ready
to
discuss
and
Jay,
please
chime
in.
If
there's
some
things
you
want
to
speak
to
so
as
I
I,
don't
know
that
it
matters
which
one
we
talked
about.
First,
let's
look
at
sustainability,
budget
138,
so
as
I
heard
from
David
and
from
my
reading,
obviously
on
the
on
the
page
that
looks
like
this
with
the
blue
banner
across
the
top
the
column
on
the
right
fiscal
year.
C
And
then,
if
you
look
in
the
expense
section,
you
see
that
there's
a
the
last
item
is
called
pro
expenses
of
289
250
now
turn
to
the
next
page,
which
delineates
all
the
budget
items
Andy,
and
you
will
see
that
if
you
follow
the
again
the
far
right
column
down
almost
to
the
end,
there
is
an
item
UNAC
ated
program,
expenses
of
two
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
dollars.
So
that's
the
number
that
city
manager
Reddy
was
saying.
C
C
So
and
yes
so
into
circle
back,
he
he
suggested
that
perhaps
we
have
a
budget
subcommittee
and
and
certainly
what
I'm
thinking
is
that
we
would
want
we'd
want
really
all
the
commissioners
to
look
at
their
areas
of
expertise
and
responsibilities
within
the
commission
and
then
to
sort
of
feed
in
there
their
suggestions
for
how
that
money
might
be
spent.
Maybe
there's
some
rebate
money.
C
You
know
I
think
if
we
all
put
our
thinking
caps
on
to
use
that
old
phrase
and
contribute
our
ideas,
we
could
do
that
and
I
think
david
was
sort
of
saying.
Maybe
we
don't
allocate
every
penny
that
we
assume
there
could
auto
be
some
reserve,
because
that
that
fund
138
seems
to
have
less
of
a
life.
Maybe
then,
then
the
recycling
fund,
so
is,
is
that
sort
of
the
picture
that
everybody
understands:
kosher,
Santora,
yeah.
I
C
I
think
what
what
dr.
eddie
was
saying
was
that
if
we
wanted
some
dedicated
staff
either
in
addition
to
or
in
some
other
configuration
that
that
that
there's
no
other
place
for
that
to
come
out
of
except
the
unallocated
program
expense.
So
he
said
if
you,
if
you
wanted
to
request
some
additional
staffing
dollars,
it
would
come
out
of
unallocated
program,
expense
and
it
would
it
would
dump
back
up
into
the
personnel
section
eventually.
Okay,.
I
I
But
I
guess
it
gets
to
the
question
if
there
is-
and
I
don't
know
that
there
has
been
a
discussion
about
additional
staffing.
But
it
seems
to
me
that
would
have
to
be
considered
a
temporary
staffing,
because
unless
this
can
roll
over
on
an
annual
budgetary
basis
into
the
personnel
expenses,
I
don't
know
how
even.
C
C
Oh
all
right!
So
so
why
don't
we
just
sort
of
leap
into
that,
because
it's
it's
really
all
sort
of
the
same
discussion.
If
you
look
at
the,
if
you
look
at
the
recycling
fund,
far
right
column,
they
project
a
beginning
cash
balance
that
would
be
declared
sometime
after
July
1
and
it
usually
isn't
settled
until
September
or
even
October,
once
all
the
bills
come
through,
but
they're,
estimating
8:35
and
and
the
various
expenses.
But
then,
if
you
see
program
expenses
of
a
million
76,000
on
this
page
flip
to
the
other
page
and
as
dr.
C
Reddy
pointed
out,
if
you
look
down
a
number
that
I
rarely
see
in
my
life,
if
you
look
down
the
far
right
column,
there
is
a
nice
round
million
dollars
sitting
toward
the
end
of
that
column
and
that's
the
unallocated
program,
expense
from
the
recycling
fund.
And
so
theoretically,
this
commission
could
spend
a
million
dollars
next
year.
If
you
have
projects
that
relate
to
recycling,
that's
a
lot
of
trash
cans.
Rob!
That's
a
lot
of
trash
cans,
a
lot
of
branded
trash
cans,
but
anyway,
so
that's
a
million
dollars.
C
E
You
to
begin
the
discussion.
One
thing
I
would
want
to
I
do
want
to
bring
up
on
the
sustainability
fund,
the
interfund
transfer
to
koujun
that
has
been
going
on
the
this
152,000
100.
This
is
the
last
year
that
that
money
will
come
out
of
the
out
of
the
sustainability
fund.
They
have
been
taking
it
out,
we
found
out-
and
it's
been
set
aside
and
the
energy
fund
for
the
city,
so
that
money
will
be
available,
starting
with
the
1920
budget.
E
E
B
E
C
C
C
All
right-
and
we
can
come
at
that
so
Jay
your
advice
here
about-
certainly
we
don't
yes,
dr.
Eddie
did
not
suggest
that
we
need
to
do
it
tonight.
He
suggested
he
suggested
I.
Think
a
30
to
60
day
window
of
discussion
was
that
what
the
rest
of
you
heard
for
budget
that
perhaps
he
is
thinking
that
he
had
like
for
us
to
a
comp
budget
recommendations,
maybe
by
end
of
July,
is
that
or
middle
of
July
somewhere
in
that
timeframe?
Does
that
J?
Does
that
sound
right
to
you
that.
K
Sounds
correct
now,
keeping
in
mind
there
are
what's
once
this
is
approved,
the
Commission
does
have
discretion
to
reallocate
from
that
line
item
as
it
sees
fit,
so
I
believe,
there's
flexibility.
We
did
this
exercise
last
year
where
we
wanted
to
drill
down
and
find
out
what
those
unallocated
program
expenses
were
about.
A
number
of
very
good
program
descriptions
were
developed
with
funding
potential,
and
so
you
know,
there's
there's
there's
good
precedent.
That's
been
set
here
right
all
right.
Okay,.
C
C
I
I
C
I
I've
got
a
couple
questions:
okay,
great,
but
please
just
in
terms
of
these,
both
these
line
items
for
both
of
these
budgets
I
think.
He
also
mentioned
that
there
was
some
flexibility
in
terms
of
the
fiscal
year
that
we
can
spend
into
the
next
one
right
is
that
and
are
those
amounts
already
pre
designated.
I
C
C
Is
that's
not
true,
we
you
could,
you
could
choose
not
to
allocate
one
penny
of
the
275,000
or
one
penny
of
the
million.
You
could
wait
and
say:
oh
I
will
spend
that
next
year,
but
whether
we
allocated
or
don't
allocate
it.
My
understanding
is:
there's
nothing
that
prohibits
the
City
Council
from
coming
up
with
their
own
idea
to
spend
the
money
today.
C
C
The
the
program
allocation
that
we
might
make
in
June
or
July
is
is
simply
a
plan,
and
you,
as
you
follow
through
that
year
plan
you
could
under
spend
something
and
overspend
something
else
based
on
your
Commission
votes,
but
it
does
help.
You
I
think
it
does
help
you
to
have
a
plan,
especially
for
the
smaller
dollar
fund,
in
particular,.
C
So
why
don't
we
circle
back?
Are
you
ready
to
vote
on
the
budgets
and
then
we
can
come
back
and
decide
how
we
want
to
proceed
with
sort
of
how
we
manage
the
program
allocations.
Let's
do
them
separately.
All
in
favor
of
the
budget
as
presented
for
it's
listed
recycling
fund
125
is
listed
first,
all
in
favor
of
adopting
the
fiscal
year.
2018
19
recycling,
fund
budget
125
say
yes,
yes,.
A
C
A
C
Say
no
abstain
and
that
is
proved
okay,
so
we've
got
our
budgets
and
again
I.
Think
we've
got
some
good
clarity
here.
So
that's
great!
So
do
you
want
to
proceed
with
beginning
a
commission
discussion
in
June
on
allocating
program
dollars
in
each
of
these?
Two
funds
seems
to
make
sense.
Okay,
so
why
don't
we
do
this?
How
about
a
deadline?
C
C
C
C
C
A
C
L
C
I'm
trying
to
to
get
the
data
so
that
we
can
have
some
discussion
at
the
June
19th
meeting
and
I'm
trying
to
give
commissioners
as
much
time
as
possible
between
now
and
then
to
send
their
information
to
Dan,
but
then
trying
to
give
the
your
window
of
discussion
time.
You
can
certainly
meet
as
a
subcommittee
before
and
have
a
discussion
as
much
of
a
discussion
as
you
want
and
then
see
what
other
data
is
collected.
You
you
aren't,
you
can
meet
any
time.
You
want.
B
C
C
Think
if
you
have
a
staffing
idea,
send
that
too
right
so
send
an
idea
for
sustainability
programs
for
recycling
programs
or
if
you
have
a
suggestion
on
a
staffing
model
that
you
think
would
be
helpful.
Please
send
that
as
well.
I
guess:
there's
not
there
really
isn't
a
Baker
Act
prohibition
that
they
couldn't
send
it
to
the
three
of
you
as
well.
That's
not
right
I
mean
it
could
go
as.
C
G
G
C
G
The
DCE
carbon-free
option
is
35%.
That's
solar,
wind,
geothermal
and
also
includes
existing
hydro
power,
but
no
nuclear.
So
the
key
difference
is
that
you'd
get
for
both
of
them
their
solar,
wind
and
geothermal,
but
it
gets
to
be
carbon
free
largely
by
using
hydro
power,
and
what
we
don't
realize
is
that
actually
we
have
hydro
power
here
in
the
area
as
a
result
of
dwe
the
water
coming
down,
either
through
the
Colorado,
River
aqueduct
or
through
snow
Creek.
So
actually
I,
don't
know
how
DC
would
work
it
out,
but
it
goes
to
Edison.
G
For
the
moment,
we
actually
do
generate
hydropower
here
locally,
but
the
key
sort
of
reason
for
doing
this
is
that
there's
no
additional
cost
to
the
city.
So
what
DC
is
proposed
is
essentially
100%
carbon
free,
but
at
the
same
rate
that
the
city
is
we're
already
paying
Southern
California
Edison,
but
it
clearly
sends
a
message
to
our
residents
that
the
city
is
following
goal,
set
out
and
sustainability
plan
and
would
strong
send
them
a
message
saying,
while
the
city
is
doing
this,
this
is
a
good
sort
of
example
to
follow.
G
G
Why
I've
asked
our
Commission
to
recommend
this
and
would
work
with
with
director
Parata
in
preparing
any
materials
for
the
City
Council
meeting
of
June
6th
and
intentionally
wrote
the
memo
I'm
so
at
beacon,
recycled
I'm
into
the
staff
report,
so
I
kind
of
anticipated
that
so
that's
that
that's
quickly
what
I
would
have
to
say
I'd
certainly
be.
We
welcome
to
answer
any
any
questions
that
you
have.
C
Understanding
is
that
this
will
be
before
council
on
June
6,
and
this
was
one
of
the
topics
that
councilmember
Coors
requested
that
we
address
if
we
wished,
so
that
there
would
be
some
additional
Commission
and
from
that
could
be
sent
to
Council.
So
that's
that's
part
of
this
discussion.
Are
there
further
questions
or
discussion
about
this
item?
Mr.
Santorum
yeah.
I
Mr.
Friedman,
oh,
if
you
can
answer
the
question
but
because
it
was
in
the
PR
materials
that
I
was
reading
about.
The
overall
proposal
mentioned
a
number
of
times
that
the
the
plan
to
move
to
the
Community
Energy
project
would
not
only
save
but
create
new
jobs
for
the
community.
Yet
there's
a
serious
lack
of
specificity
about
what
that
means.
Where
those
jobs
are
who's.
Gonna
do
those
jobs.
Are
they
new?
Are
they
recycled
jobs,
so
I
hesitate
to
use
those
materials
as
far
as
the
Commission
is
concerned?
G
Can
address
what's
in
the
implementation
plan?
There
is
a
very
detailed
implementation
plan
that
had
to
be
required,
filed
with
the
CPUC,
which
was
done
at
the
beginning
of
December,
and
it
is
actually
addressed
in
the
implementation
plan
which
I
have
somewhere
in
my
materials
there.
But
the
quick
answer
is
the
rollout
plan
in
the
implementation
plan
is
essentially
to
favor
local
generation
of
energy
so
that
the
DCE
can
buy
locally.
G
If
you
will
so
some
of
the
thoughts
there
are
that
there
was
create
additional
demand
so
that
there
would
be
solar,
large-scale
solar
plans,
which
we
don't
really
have
I
mean
DW
has
one
for
its
own
needs
and
also
potentially,
since
you
thermal.
As
you
know,
we
have
a
very
good
geothermal
source
at
the
Salton
Sea,
but
there
really
has
not
been
any
strong,
geothermal
investment,
so
this
would
be
to
create
essentially
the
demand
which
would
then
force
the
supply.
G
So
there
are
further
details
in
the
implementation
plan,
but
those
are
among
the
things
that
DCE
is
looking
at
literally
to
create
a
local
supply
of
renewable
energy
and.
G
No
essentially
at
least
locally
just
because
SCE
does
the
business
model
of
electricity
companies
is,
they
do
not
generate
their
electricity,
they
make
their
money,
what
we
call
T
and
D
transmission
and
distribution,
and
that's
how
CCA's
work,
which
is
to
say
you
are
buying
the
energy
from
desert
community
energy
in
this
case,
but
the
folks
who
actually
deliver
the
power
to
your
house.
That's
that
will
remain
SCE.
G
So
all
the
line,
people
who
you
know
if
you
have
a
breakdown
or
something
they're
still
going
to
be
here
to
locally,
do
that
SCE
does
not
buy
locally
generated
energy
about,
with
the
exception
of
maybe
using
the
peaker
plant
sentinel
on
on
the
sort
of
large
demand,
but
it's
all
essentially
merchant
power
that
they
buy
from
other
people
who
build
authorized
power
plants
which
generally
are
not
in
the
desert.
So
the
jobs
which
are
basically
the
people
who
deliver
the
electricity
for
you
will
remain
for
SCE.
C
G
C
We
have
we
have
passed
item
two.
Thank
you
all
right,
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
the
memorandum,
as
well
very
nicely
done.
We
are
at
item
three
also
a
request
from
council
member,
of
course,
that
we
discuss
making
a
statement
to
council
regarding
evey
charging
stations
in
the
downtown
redevelopment
area.
G
I
have
been
following
this
fairly
closely
attended.
The
council
meeting
at
which
was
discussed.
I
am
a
frequent
rider
of
test
loop,
which
is
the
Tesla
service
that
takes
you
between
Palm
Springs
and
Los
Angeles,
and
they
stopped
nearly
all
the
time
in
Cabazon
and
you
get
a
McDonald's
and
not
necessarily
great,
but
okay,
it's
it's
lunch
and
the
advantage
of
having
a
local
facility
is
the
Tesla
could
charge
here.
There
was
discussed
in
addition
to
the
City
Garage
I'm
having
a
facility
at
the
Rowan.
G
They
currently
pick
you
up
at
what
is
now
there's
also
was
the
Hard
Rock
until
a
few
weeks
ago.
So
I
think
there
would
be
a
strong
interest
in
having
a
local
facility
both
for
Tesla
but
for
ended
test
loop,
but
for
anybody
else
who
basically
is
going
to
park
downtown
and
go
to
any
of
the
new
shops
in
our
wonderful
new
downtown.
So
this
is
something
that
I
think
is
no
risk
to
the
city.
From
what
I
understand
from
the
proposal,
Tesla
installs
things
and-
and
there
does
seem
to
be
a
strong
demand.
A
A
question
so
these
are
Tesla
only
and
it's
great
they're
offering
a
free
I
mean
who
doesn't
want
that
I'm
just
wondering
you
know
if
there's
a
limited
amount
of
spaces
where
you
can't
put
these
things
and
then
and
those
are
taken
up
all
by
Tesla
and
then
does
that
cause
any
kind
of
problem.
For
you
know
when
the
generic
yeah.
A
A
A
K
Right
now,
there's
plenty
of
space
as
new
projects
come
online
and
as
the
project
area
becomes
more
popular
or
say
for
events
and
such
you
know
that
may
change.
But
at
this
time
my
understanding
is
Tesla
is
wanting
to
start
with
a
smallish
number
of
cars
and
increase
it.
Perhaps
you
I'm
sorry
stations
and
increased
out
to
24
at
some
point
in
time,
which
would
be
in
the
1000
space
parking
garage.
So
at
this
point
it
doesn't
seem
like
it
would
take
up
too
many
spaces,
as
we
don't
have
a
supply
issue
just
yet.
C
J
Reinforced
Jessica
McCann
the
existing
cities,
charging
stations
like
in
the
parking
lot
downtown,
there's
only
two
slots:
I
think
that
have
them
and
yeah
for,
but
one
one
of
them
like
there's
one
in
one
area
on
one
floor
and
then
there's
another
two
and
it
just
seems
like
yeah.
We
could
handle
a
couple
more
slots
without
any
problem.
E
C
C
We
didn't
advise
you
of
a
motion
in
advance,
but
the
discussion
was
on
the
agenda
to
have
a
motion
such
as
the
sustainability
Commission
supports
the
installation
of
6
to
24
Tesla.
Only
Chargers
in
the
downtown
redevelopment
area
is.
Is
that
something
you
want
to
vote
on
so
that
it's
an
official
action
to
the
Commission
we
shouldn't
or
wasn't.
C
K
G
Understanding
I'm
just
quickly
posting
going
to
the
City
Council
discussion,
but
my
understanding
is
that
this
is
in
fact
already
essentially
prepaid
and
the
Tesla
offers
this.
So
not
only
is
it
offering
free
to
the
city
the
units,
but
it
also
offers
free
to
its
customers.
The
charging
right.
Okay,.
G
The
electricity,
but
also
the
rather
large
and
Stallone
'its,
and
also
the
installation
of
the
unit.
So
essentially
it
is
a
gift.
These
Chargers
are
literally
a
gift
to
the
city.
They
show
up
with
the
Chargers
and
also
provide
I,
have
presumably
the
labor,
but
certainly
all
the
electronic
hardware.
So
my
understanding
is
the
Tesla
assumes
all
of
the
cost
of
the
installation
as
well
as
does
not
charge
its
customers
for
the
units.
All.
C
E
A
G
G
Electricity
bill
how
technically
this
works,
but
I
believe
I'm
trying
to
get
to
that
point
on
the
edge.
As
far
as
I
know,
the
Sydney
distant
would
not
assume
how
that
works.
Is
that
I'm
not
sure
how
sort
of
they
connect
with
I
think
the
meter
goes
to
them?
In
other
words,
when
I
expect,
my
guess
is
that
it's
separately
metered
and
they
get
the
electricity
bill.
That's
certainly
my
understanding
I'm
just
trying
to
get
to
the.
K
E
Think
it
was
discussed
at
the
City
Council
who
pays
for
the
charging.
They
were
just
the
Tesla
vehicles,
I
did
watch
the
the
City,
Council,
presentation
and
and
I
think
he
said
they
wanted
to
start
with
12.
But
then
the
City
Council
decided
to
start
with
just
six
Tesla
wanted
to
start
with.
12
and
city
council
decided
to
start
with
six,
but
the
actual
who
pays
for
the
the
charging
of
an
individual
vehicle
was
not
discussed
at
City
Council,
okay
and.
G
C
F
I
So
I
mean
there's
a
couple
words
floating
around.
We
need
to
clarify
so
the
word
free,
that's
different
meanings
to
different
people
right,
so
the
space
is
for
space
says
are
owned
by
the
city,
so
they
would
be
so
we're
not
given
releasing
these
spaces
or
we're
having
them
to
use
that
we
don't
have
an
answer
on
who's
paying
for
the
power.
Yet
we
know
it's
not
the
customer.
We
do
know
that
Tesla
is
going
to
put
in
the
charging.
I
L
A
C
Well,
I
mean
you,
you
could
you
could
if
you
wanted
to
or
not
you
could
support
the
the
installation
of
of
Tesla
only
Chargers
in
the
downtown
redevelopment
area,
with
the
caveat,
with
the
condition
that
the
city
does
not
pay
for
the
electrical
the
cost
of
electricity
supplied
to
the
charging
station?
If
you
want.
K
Motion
you
could
like
to
add
mr.
chair
to
address
part
of
Commissioner
santora's
question.
The
city
is
prohibited
from
charging
at
that
parking
garage
because
of
the
project
financing
agreement
it
entered
into
with
the
developer,
so
parking
there
is
supposed
to
be
free
regardless,
so
that's
part
of
it
in
terms
of
cost
lost
revenue
to
the
city.
So
I
think
the
outstanding
question
is
who
will
pay
for
the
electricity
yeah.
C
H
E
Just
from
watching
the
the
video
I
do
remember
one
thing:
councilman
Korres
owns
a
Tesla
and
he
says
that
when
you're
charging,
your
Tesla
Tesla
will
send
you
an
email
when
you've
reached
a
your
either
two
or
five
hour
limit,
and
so
that
you
will
go
and
and
disconnect.
Otherwise
you
lose
your
your
ability
to
charge
for
a
certain
amount
of
days
or
whatever.
So
you
get
that's.
C
G
G
C
G
Don't
recall
the
the
the
the
term
and
I
think
the
City
Council
was
managing
it.
The
proposal
was
to
manage
it
by
doing
it
in
stages,
but
I
can't
picture
based
on
what
I
know
of
the
city's
other
policies
of
it
being
anything,
perhaps
like
five
did
maximum
of
ten
years,
but
I
think
it
may
may
be
that
but
I
don't
know.
G
B
C
C
J
C
Say
no
abstain,
one,
no
one
abstention
and
the
balance
was
yes.
So
motion
passes,
okay,
all
right,
that's
what
Dan!
That's
why
I
Dan
and
J,
or
paid
the
big
bucks
all
right
so
now
we're
at
item
for
discussion
I'm
requiring
payments
at
city-owned,
Evie
charging
stations
I
think
we
have
a
sense
of
the
room
on
that.
Do
one
of
you
two
want
to
address
this
I
think.
Presently
we
have
a
lot
of
charging
stations
that
were
initially
funded
by
grants
and
both
the
installation
of
the
charging
station
and
the
payment
of
the
electricity.
C
C
F
C
E
How
you
want
to
charge
I
mean
we
don't
we
want
to
start
charging
I
think
we
should
my
opinion.
We
currently
have
thirty
four
charging
stations
in
the
city,
the
bulk
of
which
are
at
the
airport,
but
half
of
them
already
have
keypads
on
them.
Half
of
them
don't
so
there
would
be
the
cost
of
adding
the
keypads
to
the
two
about
20
of
them
or
eighteen
of
them,
to.
E
By
how
much
you
use
you
enter
a
code
into
the
into
the
keypad
and
that
that's,
basically
your
account
number
and
that
allows
you
to
charge
and
then,
at
the
end
of
the
month,
I
guess
the
company,
the
the
club,
sends
you
a
bill,
so
there
really
no
charge
card
or
anything
that
goes
through
the
the
keypad
itself.
But
you
and
I
guess
everybody
who
has
a
an
electric
vehicle
belongs
to
one
of
these
clubs
in
order
to
charge
okay.
C
Well,
I
think
we
can.
We
don't
have
to
dictate
how
it
happens
in
this
room,
but
you
you
want.
You
want
some
sort
of
sense
about
whether
or
not
we
think
payment
ought
to
be
required,
and
then
you
wouldn't
you
would
like
a
sense
of
what
you
we
think
the
rate
ought
to
be.
Where
do
we
take
our
rapes
or
rates?
Alright,
mr.
Santoro.
I
You
might
sense
of
it
at
this
point
is
that
there
needs
to
be
some
research
in
terms
of
the
cost
of
the
city
currently
and
that
it
should
be
expense
neutral
to
the
city,
whatever
that
figure
comes
out
to
now.
Having
said
that,
if
the
cost
of
the
the
power
and
the
maintenance,
the
installation,
the
upgrade
of
all
that
stuff
and
the
personnel
that
has
to
monitor
it,
are
cost
prohibitive,
then
we
have
to
balance
that
against
what
the
city's
goals
are.
I
H
Two
offer
a
differing
thought
as
we
move
into
our
budgetary
expenses.
This
might
be
an
opportunity
for
us
to
consider
a
line-item
to
at
least
research.
If
there
are
additional
grants
or
maybe
have
city
staff
see
if
there
are
additional
grants
that
could
continue
to
subsidize
payment,
or
at
least
some
portion
of
the
payment
just
to
incentive
eyes,
electric
vehicle
use
in
the
city,
so
that
might
be
another
direction.
Okay,
all.
C
Right,
why
don't
we?
Why
don't
we
do
this?
Why
don't
we
have
a
do?
You
want
a
motion
or
just
a
sense
of
the
Commission
on
this.
You
want
a
motion:
okay,
I'm
thinking.
We
could
not
address
the
rate
at
this
moment,
but
just
address
the
concept
of
charging,
and
if
someone
wanted
to
make
a
motion
that
sustainability
Commission
supports
a.
F
C
Sir
second,
second,
second
from
Commissioner
Freedman,
further
discussion,
all
in
favor
say:
yes,
all
opposed,
say
no
abstain.
All
right
motion
passes.
Is
there
anyone
who
feels
competent
to
see
I
I,
don't
own
a
electric
vehicle,
so
I
don't
really
know
what
the
rights
are.
Is
there
somebody
who
would
like
to
advise
staff
on
a
at
least
a
rate
scenario?
I
mean
it's,
it's
obvious,
there's
a
cost
to
install
the
the
charging
mechanisms
and
all
the
other
things
that
kosher
centre
address.
Is
there
someone
who
would
like
to
I'm.
G
B
C
Charging
rates
are
and
and
I
do,
think
well.
I
I
appreciate
Commissioner
Goines
possibilities
of
getting
some
grants
that
wouldn't
help
incentivize
AV
use.
I
also
think
you
know.
After
four
hours
we
want
to
move
people
along.
We
don't
want
people
using
it
as
a
parking
space
all
day
long
while
they
do
something
else.
C
So
I
think
we
need
to
figure
out
a
rate
structure
that
accelerates
in
some
way,
as
as
another
kind
of
incentive,
to
get
them
to
move
their
vehicle
at
lunch,
and
let
somebody
else
part
there
so
do
we
do
we
need
to
come
back
to
that
or
agendize
that
for
a
future
meeting,
when
staff
could
make
a
report
July,
maybe
June
June
July
what
July?
Okay,
all
right,
all
right,
all
right.
Let's
try
to
move
on
item
five.
C
This
also
came
up
in
our
study
session
meeting
the
possibility
of
appointment
of
a
commissioner
liaison
who
would
work
with
councilmember,
Coors
and
director
of
Virata
regarding
bike
rental
company
businesses
seems
as
if
we
have
a
plethora
of
businesses
that
are
interested.
If
there's
someone
who
would
like
to
be
available
to
consult
with
them
as
those
businesses
wish
to
establish
a
presence
which
gets
at
the
issue,
I
think.
C
Which
we
talked
about
about,
where
bikes
are
parked
in
some
kind
of
corral,
or
whether
or
not
they
can
be
left
on
sidewalks
or
whether
there's
a
more
official
docking
station
that
we
would
require.
There
was
some
discussion
at
prior
meetings
about
whether
or
not
we
want
a
bicycle,
leaning
up
against
palm
trees,
randomly
on
Palm,
Canyon
Drive
on
Thursday
night
or
any
other
night
for
that
matter.
So
there
are
those
issues
is:
is
there
anyone
who
would
like
to
volunteer
and
if
not
we'll
put
it
on
my
replacement.
E
E
K
Voluntary
you
know
what's
what's
important
about
this
and
we're
discussing
what
sounds
like
right-of-way
issues
that
maybe
may
be
more
appropriate
for
engineering
staff
to
chime
in
and
let
us
know
what
the
existing
regulations
are,
etc.
I
think
from
this
commission
the
benefits
of
having
non
motorized
vehicles
and
how
to
make
that
work
may
be
something
that
we
we
would
want
to
make
sure
there's
considered.
However,
it's
really
early
in
the
process
right
right.
C
Sure,
well,
if
I
can
be
helpful,
the
next
45
call
me
alright
item.
Six
is
I.
Think
just
to
get
this
before
you
it's
again.
I
councilmember
Kors
asked
the
question:
what's
the
next
steps
on
future
bike
routes
and
we
don't
have
while
we
we
have
two
commissioners,
Wilson
and
gothy
are
looking
at
pedestrian
issues.
We
don't
presently
have
among
sitting
commissioners,
someone
who
is
focused
on
bicycle
routes,
so
that
was
a
request
that
we
look
at
the
next
steps
there
and
I
am
willing
to
appoint
someone.
H
Had
a
comment
and
I'm
not
a
planner
I'm,
not
a
trained
planner,
but
my,
but
I
would
imagine
that
that
bike
routes
would
fall
into
the
purview
of
a
Complete
Streets
plan.
And,
while
thinking
about
all
these
things
in
silos
might
help
us
get
to
a
lot
of
detail
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
think
what
we
want
is
a
a
plan
that
helps
us
address.
H
C
Yeah
big
picture
is
always
helpful
and
the
cyclists
would
also
say
there's
a
gap
from
here
to
there
who's
gonna
help
me
you
know
so
there's
kind
of
a
there
is
certainly
the
big
picture
and
there's
also
what
can
we
do
in
the
next
24
months
to
help
out
the
current
plan,
so
yeah,
alright
I
just
wanted
to
address
that
council.
Murmur,
of
course,
did
so
we'll
we'll
leave
that
hanging
by
sure
Clark.
B
Just
a
minor
comment
from
my
notes
from
the
study
session
there
were,
there
were
two
points
and
one
was
that
we've
just
added
some
by
Krauts,
so
those
should
go
on
to
the
map,
but
then
I
think
Jeff
had
suggested
that
we
look
like
like
chair
Jackson,
said:
look
at
what
the
next
phase
should
be.
As
far
as
my
Krauts.
C
All
right
item-
seven
I
just
wanted
to
list
this
because
it
was
an
item
that
we
discussed
I
think
maybe
we've
addressed
it
pretty.
Well.
We
all
know
that
whenever
we
vote
that's
on
an
issue
that
goes
to
council,
but
I
think
our
question
was
yes,
we
vote,
but
how
does
that
record
of
our
minutes?
Get
where
it's
going?
C
E
Speaking
with
some
of
the
other
Commission's
are
especially
Planning
Commission,
they
do
an
action
item
like
what
you
see
and
it's
basically
taking
off
of
the
minutes,
but
leaving
on
only
things
that
the
City
Council
needs
to
be
aware
of
that
we
voted
on.
So
it's
just
stating
just
a
quick,
not
real,
detailed
report
of
what
we
spoke
about,
what
we
voted
on
and
what
did
the
City
Council.
C
E
E
C
C
I
A
C
G
I'll
start
out
with
a
couple
of
them,
mostly
solar
points,
building
and
then
can
follow
up.
First
is
that
you
were
a
month
when
I
was
working
with
staff
on
the
store
card
that
Palm
Springs
designated
as
a
Sol
smart
city,
we've
made
very
good
progress.
There
is
a
solar
statement
that
dr.
Reddy
just
signed.
There
is
a
rather
large
scorecard
and
some
materials
on
training
that
the
Department
of
Building
and
Safety
did
as
well
as
a
owning
review.
G
The
good
news
is
that
all
of
that
has
been
essentially
processed
by
staff
and
Daniel
I
think
you
say
the
letter
has
been
mailed
I'll,
send
the
remaining
materials
and
from
what
I
understand
from
the
National
League
of
Cities
person
who
handles
the
Sol
smart
designation,
and
we
should
have
enough
points
to
go
straight
to
gold.
So
I'll
follow
up
on
that
and
hopefully
have
good
news
for
our
next
Commission
meeting
and
they
show
up
I
guess
at
City
Council
with
a
plaque.
G
But
the
good
news
is
in
particular
that
we've
really
done
an
awful
lot
more
things
to
do,
but
we've
done
an
awful
lot.
Hopefully,
what
we'll
go
straight
to
gold?
So
that's
very
good
news
Daniel
if
you
could
circulate
to
the
other
commissioners,
the
Solar
statement,
the
doctor
ready
just
signed
because
they
didn't
get
chance
to
ask
you
that
before
our
meeting
today
and
then
second
is
that
three
years
into
the
process.
G
Last
Wednesday,
the
state
Energy
Commission,
approved
the
2019
energy
code,
which
will
acquire
new
residential
construction
to
install
solar,
beginning
January,
1
2020
I
had
asked
Daniel
circulate
a
fairly
good
article
about
that
in
today's
Desert
Sun
and-
and
it
correctly
indicates
that
this
saving
solar
savings
here
in
the
Coachella
Valley
will
be
the
best
really
in
the
state
because
of
the
rather
hard
high
electricity
use
during
the
summer.
So
if
you
combine
that
between
that
and
DCE,
there
should
be
some
some
fairly
good
savings
there.
So
that's
good
news.
G
The
next
step,
if
you
recall,
when
we
did
this
process
in
December
of
I
guess
by
24
2016,
we
recommended
that
there
be
an
into
until
the
energy
code
goes
into
effect.
In
2020.
There
is
a
policy
adopted
by
City
Council
concerning
new
construction
to
strongly
urge
the
developers
to
do
that.
Well,
what
has
not
yet
been
done,
but,
as
part
of
the
next
step
is
to
look
into
retrofit.
G
The
folks
have
you
come
up
for
a
retrofit
permit,
for
a
rather
large
retrofit
would
be
25%
of
your
existing
size
or
I
believe
above
500
square
feet
that
you'll
be
required
to
get
solar,
but
once
again
the
this
is
something
we
already
have
voted
on,
because
that
was
part
of
our
our
recommendation
and
and
Planning
Commission,
but
sort
of
now
that
we've
got
DCE
and
its
rates
and
the
Energy
Commission.
Is
there
all
of
the
sort
of
prerequisites
of
bringing
this
to
Council
for
at
least
initial
discussion
are
available.
A
J
We
have
a
program
that
we're
trying
to
put
together
to
improve
access
to
battery
recycling
facilities
here
in
the
city,
and
we
have
a
grant
proposal
that
was
submitted
to
Calvary
cycle
I.
Think
and
that's
in
works
right
now.
We
got
some
news
this
week
that
some
of
the
line
items
in
terms
of
our
budget
were
inadmissible
for
the
program
and
so
we've
just
eliminated
them,
and
since
we
have
a
million
dollars
in
recycling
money,
we
can
certainly
make
it
up
from
there.
J
A
Well,
I
think
report
reported
last
time
that
we
met
with
the
hospitality,
Association
and
and
we're
still
working
with
them
to
see
if,
if
they
want
to
join
us
and
in
in
exploring
this
issue
since
they
seem
to
have
a
lot
of
problems
with
it,
we
have
met
and
we're
creating.
The
survey
have
created
a
survey
that
we're
gonna
send
out
to
the
local
restaurants.
Food
vendors
to
you
know,
get
their
input
and
we're
just
trying
to
really
spread
the
word
right
now
about
our
intentions.
To
do
this,
that's
it
great.
J
Thank
you,
okay,
third
issue,
of
course,
with
next
year's
tightening
of
the
screws,
with
different
California
level,
laws
and
ordinances,
we're
all
concerned
about
food
waste
and
organic
processing,
and
given
that
there's
gonna
be
additional
input,
what's
gonna
happen
to
it?
Where
is
it
gonna
go?
How
are
we
gonna
handle
it?
So
this
week
we
went
out
to
take
a
look
at
a
composting
facility
sa
recycling.
That
was
just
yesterday
that
we
did
that.
J
Thank
you,
Dan,
organizing
that
one,
the
issue
that
I
was
particularly
interested
in
there
was
this:
the
the
dry
carbon-based
waste
that
you
put
in
your
green
containers
and
that
gets
hauled
off
by
PSD
s
is
not
going
to
this
company
sa
recycling.
It's
going
to
a
Burrtec
company
down
in
India.
So
what
was
the
role
of
this
sa
recycling?
What
are
they
doing
and
we
found
that
out
yesterday
what
they're
doing
is
taking
self
halt,
but
basically
garden
and
landscaping
waste,
and
they
are
composting
it
right
there.
J
They
just
put
the
material
into
long
furrows
and
the
microbes
do
their
work
and
then
it
turns
into
compost.
They
can
distribute
to
the
various
customers.
So
so
that's
self
halt
and
that's
that's.
You
know
from
golf
courses
and
stuff
like
that.
It
looks
as
though,
therefore,
this
company
is
not
really
a
competitor
to
PSD
s
and
this
Coachella
Valley
composting
company
they're,
the
ones
that
handle
the
household
stuff
and
this
company
is
handling
the
self
hauled
from
larger
venues
so
that
they
seem
to
be
fairly
complimentary.
J
We
nevertheless
are
still
worried
about
next
year,
the
the
wet
organic
waste.
What
about
the
wet
stuff
has
compared
to
all
this
dry
stuff?
So
we're
looking
at
a
company
and
one
second
and
we're
hoping
to
have
a
meeting
with
a
representative
from
the
company
next
week
with
feedback
from
Chris
Cunningham
at
PST
s
and
others.
J
The
the
water
treatment
you
know
is
already
dealing
with
quite
a
bit
of
work
like
waste
in
it
food
ways
to
see
if
you
use
your
garbage
disposal
unit,
that's
where
it's
going,
it's
going
into
the
sewer
system,
so
so
everybody
thinks
that
there
may
be
some
benefit
here.
A
big
issue
is
source
separation
and
contamination.
So
this
company
that
we're
going
to
hopefully
be
meeting
with
the
representative
next
week.
J
He
sent
me
some
material
on
they
call
it
organics
extrusion
press,
it's
a
machine
and
it
basically
takes
a
non
separated
stream
of
household
waste
and
municipal
waste
and
it
basically
it's
a
it's
a
big
hydraulic
press
and
it
actually
presses
out
the
wet
stuff
from
the
dry
stuff.
So
you
don't
have
to
separate
anymore,
so
that's
an
option
for
first
pouring
with
them
and
saying:
maybe
if
we
want
to
go
with
something
like
that
down
with
the
water
waste
treatment
plan,
that
was
pretty
fast
any
questions
on
that
any.
What
do
you
know?
J
Okay,
the
other
thing
is,
of
course,
we've
been
working
on
trying
to
get
recycled
containers
into
the
parks
and
you've
all
heard
about
this
before
so
Dan.
If
you
could
put
that
presentation
up,
I'll
just
show
a
couple
of
slides
that'll.
Give
you
some
indication
of
what's
happening
on
that
in
the
last
month,
so
go
to
slide.
Two.
J
There
we
go.
This
was
new
information
to
us
coming
from
the
Parks
and
Rec
Commission
that
in
fact,
back
in
2015
three
years
ago,
there
were
recycle
bins
that
sustainability
had
worked
on
with
Parks
and
Rec
and
then
were
actually
sent
to
they're,
probably
partisan
and
put
out
in
those
six
locations
in
those
five
parks.
So
here
we
had
been
going
under
the
assumption
that
we
needed
them,
because
we
had
done
some
surveys
of
the
parks
and
we
hadn't
seen
any
of
these.
J
We
thought
that
there
were
no
recycle
bins
in
the
park,
so
there
was
this
discrepancy,
so
we
went
out
and
we
we
re
surveyed
what
was
going
on,
and
this
is
what
we
found
the
green
ones.
Yes,
there
are
some
recycle
bins
there,
the
red
ones.
No,
they
may
have
been
deployed
three
years
ago,
but
they
are
gone
now.
So
that
was
interesting.
J
J
J
This
is
really
the
clincher
there's
the
recycle
container
from
2015
in
Ruth
hardened,
but
right
in
front
of
it
now
is
a
brand
spanking
new,
very
bright
blue
trash
container.
So
this
is
the.
This
is
all
going
against.
What
we're
trying
to
accomplish
here,
which
is
to
get
containers
that
they're
form
and
function,
is
very,
very
well
defined
by
what
they
present
and
so
that
the
public
won't
have
to
go
through
connections
to
distinguish
between
trash
containers
and
recycle
containers.
J
Good
news
Stacy
says
that
she's
going
to
take
those
away
as
soon
as
we
get
our
new
recycle
containers,
so
good
news
and
then
the
final
thing
was
that
the
Parks
and
Rec
committee
today
after
seeing
all
this,
they
unanimously
passed
a
resolution
to
accept
and
move
forward
with
purchasing
our
candidate
container
and
getting
it
into
the
parks.
So
that's
good
news.
C
J
That's
actually
the
last
slide.
If
you
put
it
up
Dan,
we
only
have
35
containers.
There
are
a
lot
more
trash
containers
around
yeah,
well,
okay,
hold
on
yeah,
that's
the
one!
Sorry
I
didn't
get
it
up
here,
but
we
needed
feedback
an
input
on
well,
where
should
we
put?
We
only
have
35
of
them.
If
that's
how
many
we
purchase?
Where
should
they
go?
Which
trash
containers
are
the
best
bang
for
the
buck
to
pair
them
up
with
them?
They're
gonna
help
us
with
that.
Okay,
I
want
to
make
one
more
point.
J
J
We
would
like
to
also
start
to
get
them
into
downtown
streets
and
everywhere
that
we
can
Laney
has
sent
me
a
couple
of
photos
of
the
third
area,
where
I
think
that
we
would
want
to
try
to
go
for
this
and
that's
inside
commercial
establishments
like
look
at
these
in
blaze,
pizza
and
Starbucks,
and
the
airport
a
game.
There's
no
standardization
and
it
sure
would
be
nice
if
we
could
get
a
standard
trash
container
and
a
recycle
container
in
all
three
of
these
areas.
C
C
F
G
What
I
saw
was
the
rather
substantial
energy
and
infrastructure
is
needed
to
bring
water
from
the
Colorado
River
to
the
Coachella
Valley,
which
is
one
hundred
and
something
miles,
and
that
reinforces
the
need
for
for
conservation.
There's
a
lot
of
effort
that
all
that
water
sort
of
travels
to
get
over
here,
including
being
pumped
up
from
the
river
and
then
through
the
mountains.
G
The
next
is
the
DW
a
at
the
meeting
this
morning
announce
water
conservation
of
twenty
percent
from
April,
which
is
quite
an
April
from
the
2013
baseline
and
thirteen
point.
Eight
percent
reduction
in
the
last
twelve
months,
which
is
in
line
with
its
target
conservation,
objective
of
10
to
13
percent.
The
dwo,
a
board
conservation
committee
made
on
that
April,
thirtieth
and
I
will
meet
soon
with
Ashley
Metzger
discuss
what
additional
measures
the
city
could
take
to
encourage
conservation
and
some
of
them
may
result
in
some
proposals
for
us
to
be
discussed
next
month.
G
Concerning
the
program
activities,
one
thing
that
was
discussed
a
couple
of
times
this
morning
and
adds
info
on
the
list
that
I
presented
at
the
study
sessions.
The
DWA
would
like
to
see
the
city
to
investigate
the
possibility,
extending
the
recycled
water
line
to
Sunrise
Park,
as
they
will
have
additional
supplies
of
recycled
water,
particularly
if
the
mesquite
Golf
Club
area
is
developed
for
housing.
G
So
it
sounds
that
they
do
have
the
capacity
so
J
I'd
like
to
start
moving
that
forward,
because
I
believe
GWA
has
has
the
capacity
and,
and
they
require
some
investigation
of
what
grant
money,
particularly
prop
one
money
would
be
available
so
that
so
I'll
work
it
out
with
you
that,
oh
and
then
finally,
I
asked
Daniel
to
include
in
the
materials
for
this
morning.
It's
rather
comprehensive
report
on
supply
and
demand
through
2045.
G
C
All
right,
they
didn't
sour
reports
and
just
just
a
reminder
that
it's
certainly
anything
that
you
want
to
send
or
can
send
in
advance
of
the
meeting
helps
all
of
us
absorb
all
of
that
information
in
advance,
so
so,
for
instance,
yeah
nice
PowerPoint
that
you've
got
to
us.
Thank
you
very
much
all
right.
We
are
at
Commissioner
comments.
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
I'm,
sorry,
Sherman
outreach
because
you
have
a
big
event
coming
up.
We.
L
L
Annika
Dana
created
the
creative
for
this
and
she
created
like
a
nice
eight-and-a-half
by
eleven.
That's
cut
into
three.
So
if
you
want
to
take
any
of
those,
if
you
have
anywhere
to
share
them
or
if
you
want
an
electronic
version
to
share
out
and
if
any
of
you
still
have
any
ideas
of
good
vendors
or
exhibitors,
we
still
have
space
I'm
happy
that
the
milkweed
for
monarchs
it's
gonna,
be
with
us
and
forgive
me,
grant
I've
forgotten
your
business's
name.
D
B
Today,
I
got
an
email
from
Sarah
Jane
Simon
who's.
The
producer
of
I
am
the
desert
on
CBS
local,
too,
and
she
has
set
aside
a
slot
on
Monday
the
28th
of
May
to
have
a
segment
on
World,
Environment
Day.
So
I
will
reply
to
her
email
and
introduce
you
to
her
Jenn
so
that
you
can
work
out
the
details,
so
that
will
be
between
6:30
and
7:00
on
channel
2
on
the
28th.
L
We
will
have
our
farmers
market
both
the
day
before
the
event,
and
that
will
be
indoors
it's
the
first
day
that
the
farmers
market
goes
in
side,
so
that
will
be
a
good
time
as
well,
hopefully
to
catch
people
and
encourage
them
to
go.
So.
Thank
you
for
your
support
in
any
way
of
getting
the
word
out
and
please
come
and
join
us.
L
L
E
L
There
is
a
CVC
wed,
so
it's
Coachella
Valley
celebrates
World
Environment
Day
on
Facebook
I,
don't
I,
guess
I'm,
not
really
friends
with
you
guys
on
Facebook
most
of
you,
but
if
you
want
to
go
and
like
the
page-
and
you
know,
follow
what's
going
on
that-
might
bring
more
attention
to
it
as
well.
So
that
would
be
great
if
you're
on
Facebook.
B
K
It's
been
reviewed,
then
I
believe
we've
revised
it
again
and
then
it's
been
reviewed
again
and
so
we're
still
waiting
for
feedback.
So
it's
in
that
process,
Roy
will.
C
G
Quickly,
I
know
it's
late,
I
think
all
of
you
received
an
email
today
from
the
EM
City
Clerk's
office
on
the
advisory
body
workshop
I
think
you
were
there
Roy,
maybe
some
of
you
others
were
there
the
one
sort
of
key
ta
that
a
lot
of
takeaways,
but
one
thing
I
did
want
to
report
back.
I
had
raised
the
concern
about
the
whenever
we
email
those
emails.
G
Our
public
records,
subject
to
the
Public
Records
Act
and
I
had
raised
that
with
them
with
councilmember
Coors,
and
the
net
result
is
that
we
perhaps
as
soon
as
July,
will
be
receiving
City
email
addresses
so
that
we
would
then
be
communicating
with
each
other
with
some
form
of
board
or
Commission
Palm
Springs
CA,
not
gov,
email
address,
because
otherwise
some
there
is
concern
of
using
any
of
these
things
or
our
home
computers
on
that.
So
that's
a
concern.
I've
raised
and
apparently
there'll
be
action
in
the
next
couple
of
months.