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From YouTube: Measure J Commission | July 21 2022
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Meeting of the City of Palm Springs Measure J Commission, held July 21st, 2022
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C
C
B
A
A
D
A
Okay,
do
we
have
a
motion
to
accept
acceptance
of
the
agenda
so
moved.
A
Okay
public
comment:
this
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
measure,
j,
commission
on
agenda
items
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
commission.
The
commission
values
your
comments
pursuant
to
the
brown
act.
It
generally
cannot
take
any
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
Three
minutes
are
signed
for
each
speaker.
Do
we
have
any
public
comment.
A
Okay,
it's
going
to
be
a,
I
think,
welcome.
So
I
I
think
we
had
a
few
things.
I
had
wanted
to
add
to
review
for
future
meetings,
but
I
can
do
that
during
the
commissioner
comments
and
when
we
all
talk
after
we
go
through
the
the
updates.
I
did
just
want
to
say
that
as
the
commission.
A
Obviously,
this
is
going
to
be
a
difficult
time
for
staff
with
the
city
manager
leaving
and
we
sort
of
feel
for
all
of
you
and
we
will
try
not
to
be
too
demanding
and
be
helpful
more
than
you
know
as
much
as
we
can
during
the
transition
period
and
I'm
glad
we.
We
made
terrific
progress
in
in
the
last
meetings
and
I
think
there's
a
lot.
A
We
have
a
lot
that
we
discussed
and
a
lot
that's
on
the
agenda
and
a
lot
of
plans,
and
I
know
it's
going
to
be
sort
of
difficult
to
execute
them
all,
but
at
least
we
got
through
most
of
the
the
process
and-
and
we
have
set
aside
funds
for
and
for
projects
that
we
hope
to
complete.
A
So
I'm
sorry,
I
know
it's
not
an
easy
transition
and
we'll
do
what
we
can
to
help.
C
B
B
One
was
for
the
dinner
we
had
and
then
also
we
had
to
put
together
the
slides
for
the
dinner.
So
I
get
direction
from
the
city
manager
who
gets
it
from
council
and
as
soon
as
I
I
am
notified,
I
try
to
notify
you
guys
immediately
and
the
first
time
they
told
me
the
powerpoint
was
due
on
wednesday.
The
next
thing
I
know
they
tell
me
it's
tuesday.
A
I
will
just
to
comment
on
that
meeting.
I
thought
it
was
a
great
concept
and
unfortunately
we
everybody
had
a
different
idea
of
what
they
were
supposed
to
do,
and
so
it
was
an
interesting
first
one.
I
think
you
know
if
they
do
it
again,
it'll
be
good
to
have
it
more
sort
of
streamlined,
because
some
people
gave
their
whole
history.
Some
people
gave
a
few
key
points
and
we
sort
of
did
a
little
recap
so,
but
you
know
it's
a
good.
It
was
a
good
measure.
It's
something
to
do.
B
That's
what
made
it
unique?
Everybody
had
a
different
story
in
it.
Now,
okay,
with
the
budget
update,
as
you
can
see,
the
2020
2021
revenues
were
12.4
million
and
the
2122
are
16.3
million.
That
is
a
3.8
million
over
the
prior
fiscal
year.
We
do
anticipate
the
revenue
is
coming
in
on
targeted
for
our
estimated
amounts
at
this
time.
Do
you
have
any
questions
for
me.
B
E
B
B
E
A
No,
so
just
on
the
for
next
year's
budget,
after
we
did
everything
that
we
said
we
we
have
there's
four
million
that's
unallocated
for
next
year
and
also
out
of
the.
A
Out
of
the
that
was
one
question,
then
the
community
projects
are
in
their
three
million.
B
Correct
well
in
the
past,
I've
kind
of
had
them.
I
left
them
in
the
year
that
they
were
budgeted,
but
we
never
spent
them,
and
I
reduced
that
from
the
unexpended
and
made
it
three
three
million
this
year.
So
when
we
look
at
it
we're
like
oh
yeah,
we
have
three
million
not
trying
to
figure
out
what
we
did
in
the
past
years.
Right.
A
I
think
that's
right
and
the
rest
we
had
actually
said
we
wanted
to
get
input
from
the
parks
and
rec
because
we
had
put
almost
all
of
theirs
aside.
So
that
is
something
that
we
can
discuss
also
in
terms
of
the
schedule
for
going
forward,
but
now
that
we
have
a
new
parks
and
rec.
A
Yeah
yvonne,
so
so
the
plan
is
that
we
we
were
presented
all
these
projects.
So
we
might
you
know-
and
we
also
have
another
discussion-
that
we
can
talk
about
allocating
money
going
forward
set
aside
for
parks.
So
it
would
be
ideal
if
we
had
her
input
recognizing
that
she
just
started
and
will
take
a
bit
of
time
anyway,
but
we
may
want
to
be
able
to
meet
or
explain
or
go
through
how
our
budget
works
so
that
she
knows
what
they
could
potentially
come
to
measure
jay
for.
B
And
that's
something
that
joelle
and
chris
and
I
can
meet
with
her
with
and
go
through
the
process
with
her,
so
that
when
we
do
invite
her,
she
understands
the
concept
and
maybe
bring
some
ideas
to
the
table.
A
Yeah
and
we
can
show
her
what's
been
submitted
and
again
recognizing
that,
just
because
there's
funds
doesn't
mean
there
is
resources
and
staff
to
get
everything
done
right
away,
but
okay.
Well,
it's
I
mean
I
think
it
was.
I
think
it
was
good
and
I
think
you
know
there's
a
number
of
things
in
the
budget
that
are
set
asides
that
are
not
actual
expenses,
which
probably
makes
a
lot
of
sense
in
the
event
of
a.
A
F
Yeah,
so
for
engineering
I
didn't
want
to
just
be
left
out.
I
was
struggling.
I
wasn't
going
to
include
anything,
so
I
just
included
what
it's
in
my
five
year,
cip,
showing
year
one
measure,
j
projects
and
if
you
will
one
of
them
is
the
the
six
million
dollar
project
for
payment
re
construction.
That
one
is
going
to
counsel
for
at
least
approval
to
start
that
in
next
and
on
the
28th.
F
So
the
next
council
meeting,
so
you
can
see
immediately
you've
allocated
the
money
and,
within
you
know,
28
days
we're
already
spending
it
we're
going
to
to
town
to
try
to
move
that
project
forward,
so
immediately
remove
six
million
dollars
being
spent
of
measure
date.
Another
project
that's
closed,
would
be
the
the
the
official
lighting
project.
So
that's.
I
believe
it
was
three
four
million.
Let
me
see
4.1.
A
F
Yeah,
so
that
one
also
we're
very
there,
it
is
4.1
we're
getting
close
to
having
those
plans
approved,
and
we
might
be
you
know
within
the
next
two
months
we
might
spend
10
million
dollars
to
measure
parts
just
just
like
that
with
those
two
projects.
So
from
a
perspective
of
you
know,
community
projects
and
the
workload
that
we
have
don-
and
I
have
already
sat
and
distributed
most
of
those
projects-
communication
projects
and
put
them
on
a
project
manager's
table,
so
they
can
start
looking
at
it.
F
The
other
issue
is
with
projects
that
are
really
engineering
associated.
We
need
to
work
with
our
city
attorney.
I
know,
finance
nancy
is
working
to
try
to
come
up
with
agreements
so
so
like
the
magell
center,
they
want
to
use
the
fund
right.
How
do
we
use
them?
What
processes
do
we
put
in
place
to
make
sure
they're
using
money
appropriately?
So
I
think
nancy
is
working
with
our
city
attorney
to
come
up
with
some
agreements.
So
as
far
as
the
nothing
really
changed,
I
think
we
did
a
lot
of
work
to
get.
F
The
budget
approved
lots
of
plans,
lots
of
projects,
lots
of
money,
I'm
looking
to
hire
folks,
so
that's
sort
of
where
I'm
at
wonderful.
That's
great.
I
can
answer
questions,
but
there's
really
not
much
more.
I
want
to
go
into
each
of
the
projects.
F
D
Okay,
mr
robin
hi,
thanks
question,
I
think
primarily
for
usual,
with
the
community
projects
is
there
could
you
could
you
describe
how
you
see
the
workflow
going
for
each
of
the
line
item
projects
and
I'm
wondering,
if
is
there
anything
given
a
manpower
challenge
for
each
of
them?
F
Right
so
I
haven't
developed
the
workflow.
The
first
step
I
did
was
try
to
distribute
to
project
managers
so
that
they
can
start
looking
at
it
and
ask
those
questions.
Look
at
the
application
we
provided
links
to
the
applications
read
what
the
project
is.
Use.
Your
engineering
judgment
to
ask
questions,
bring
them
to
me
so
that
I
can
then
start
working
with
you
at
liaisons
to
those
different
applicants.
If
it
need
be
right,
some
of
them
are
pretty
straightforward.
Some
of
them
are
require
more
work.
More
more
investigating.
F
There
are
certain
projects
that
are
being
combined
a
lot
of
like
the
shade
structure
projects
we
have
two
or
three
and
different.
You
know
request
those
are
probably
going
to
be
combined
into
one.
So
I
gave
that
particular
request
to
someone
that's
already
working
on
change
structure,
so
we
use
our
judgment
to
put
the
projects
where
I
think
they
belong
we're
trying
to
step
up
as
well.
So
I
you
know,
I'm
going
to
be
looking
at
it.
F
I
think
within
one
or
two
months,
I'll
have
a
better
understanding,
but
I
think,
with
these
meetings,
it'll
get
me
closer
to
getting
more
action
on
those
community
issues
projects
because
it
is,
you
know,
as
I
said,
and
everybody
knows,
there's
quite
the
workload
so
they've
raised
to
a
high
level
until
we
get
to
a
point
where
we're
you
know
comfortable
working
on
the
other
projects,
and
then
we
get
to
those.
So
I
just
I
don't
have
a
good
workflow
on
how
we're
gonna
deliver
those
products.
Okay,.
D
And
that's
fair,
that's
fair,
because
I'm
wondering
if
there's
if
this
is
a
tag
along
thought
to
commissioner
bernstein's
comment,
if
there's
anything
that
we
can
do
collectively
or
individually
to
help
push
things
along,
that
don't
require
a
true
technical
expertise
happy
to
help.
However,
we
can
help.
F
Right,
I
think
we
might
come
back
to
the
measure
day,
commission
in
one
or
two
meetings
to
say
these
are
where
we
need
help.
We
don't
understand,
what's
what
they're
requesting
can
you
reach
out
to
them
and
maybe
we'll
work
like
that
to
make
contact
with
individual
applicants
because,
like
I
said,
some
of
them
are
going
to
be
disappointed?
We
may
say
you
know
your
estimates
are
so
off
that
we're
not
going
to
be
with
you
your
project
or
there's
too
much
to
it.
You
know,
there's
more,
that
we
need
to
investigate.
A
On
the
the
recreation
fields
led
does
that
include
the
scoreboards
or
just
the
lighting?
It's
lighting.
A
F
To
with
the
new
director
coming
on
board,
she's,
really
pro
capital
projects,
she's
been
involved
in
capital
projects
she
understands.
What's
going
on,
we
have
bi-weekly
meetings
on
on
all
our
projects
and
she's
invited
she.
She
understands
which
projects
we're
working
on
we've,
given
her
a
list
of
our
priorities,
because
we've
also
prioritized
internally
major
capital
projects,
important
projects,
you
know,
and
then
we
put
two
or
three
different
levels
of
importance
to
projects
so
she's,
aware
of
those
and
she's
reviewing
them.
I
think
she's
going
to
be
a
really
good
asset.
F
B
E
In
in
regards
to
that,
I
I'm
really
glad
to
know
there'll
be
really
strong
leadership
there,
because
if
you
look
at
all
the
projects
that
parks
and
rec
commissioned
many
of
those
were
sent
by
individuals,
not
and
not
so
much
as
a
full
commission,
with
a
leadership
fair
and
so
maybe
next
year
we
look
at
them
sorting
out
their
priorities
and
sending
one.
You
know
recommendation
from
that
commission
to
us
because
they're
they
were,
we
had
a
lot
of
them
and
they
were
not
representative
of
the
entire
commission.
E
In
my
opinion,
people
took
individual
ones
and
and
perhaps
did
the
work
on
them,
but
I
think
if
they
come
up
with
25
projects,
they
need
to
sit
down
as
a
commission
with
their
leader
and
decide
and
prioritize,
because
we
had
asked
to
send
that
back
to
them.
What
really
can
get
done?
What
really
is
important
on
your
list
and
then
we
get
that
from
her
or
the
back.
A
E
I
I
agree
with
that
and
I
think
most
of
the
things
we
got
are
from
people
who
were
on
parks
and
rec
commission.
So
somehow
I
think
you
just
can't
have
five
people
in
my
opinion,
sending
out
different
ideas.
They
need
to
collaborate
and
decide
before
they
get
to
us.
What's
really
important
yeah,
because
I
think
I
think
major
j
has
given
them
a
lot
of
money,
a
lot
of
money.
We
don't
neglect
them
and
they
need
that
money.
E
A
On
the
rest
of
you
know,
the
17
8
million
here
and
use
10
million
could
potentially
be,
and
then
we
talked
about
three
million,
so
out
of
the
rest
of
them
are
those
all
doable.
Given
your
resources,
the
restrooms
and
well,
the
fire
training
facility
is
not
going
to
happen
really.
Is
it
right.
F
A
F
The
commission
center
most
of
those,
I
think
we
haven't
established
exactly
how
the
convention
center
is
going
to
do
these
projects,
but
I
think
those
are
all
projects
that
can
be
done
within
this
year.
B
F
Yeah
yeah,
so
it's
basically,
the
convention
center
is
going
to
do
these
projects,
so
they
are
they're
they're,
the
convention
centers
projects.
So
what
I'm
saying
is
those
three
projects
could
be
potentially
done
this
this
year,
yeah
when
we
see
it
again
next
year,
a
lot
of
these
projects
are
going
to
be
knocked
out.
A
That's
great,
that's
really,
terrific,
so,
okay!
Well,
that's
great!
On
the
on
the
on
the
projects.
Can.
E
A
A
We
might
want
to
have,
for
you
know
just
at
some
point
when
we
do
our
master
list
again,
for
for
for
the
fall
is
which
of
the
current
projects
are
not
really
required,
requiring
engineering
time
and
which
ones?
Obviously,
some
engineering
done,
but
and
which
ones
require
you're
active,
because
that
would
sort
of
it.
But.
D
Then
I'd
add
to
that
for
the
future
listing
and
care
tracking
the
community
as
a
separate
breakout
on
a
line
item
basis.
So
it's
on
a
project
by
project
basis,
so
that
we
can
see
where,
where
progress
is,
is
coming
and
where
challenges
might
be.
For
you
rightly.
F
Yeah,
we
will
create
a
project
list.
This
was
me
just
attempting
to
put
something
down.
I
understand,
but
we
can.
When
we
start
getting
into
it.
In
september
october,
the
you'll
be
able
to
track
project
progress.
It
may
be
very
slow.
I
may
not
have
updates,
but
at
least
we'll
see
individual
projects
and
where
we're
at
with
them.
D
B
So
I
spoke
with
our
city
attorney
today,
because
I
I
haven't
been
here
when
we've
given
measure
j
funding
to
individual
organizations
rather
than
doing
the
projects
ourselves.
B
So
I
spoke
with
our
city
attorney
today
and
asked
him
if
he
could.
Please
come
up
with
a
a
brief
one-page
agreement
so
that
we
can
and
make
it
kind
of
generic.
So
I
can
fill
in
the
blanks
and
something
of
the
sort
that
you
know
the
mizell
center
is
getting
x,
amount
to
do
the
kitchen
and
then
we'll
sign
it
and
they'll
sign
it.
The
measure
j
is
given
new
funds
for
this
project
and
this
project
only
and
and
then
we
just
have
to
determine
up,
determine
how
we're
going
to
do
the
follow-up.
B
B
A
That's
terrific!
Well,
I
think
the
other
thing
that
we
should
add
in
that
agreement
for
the
ones
that
give
we
give
money
to,
and
I
think
we
talked
about
this-
I
don't
know
how
the
city
attorney
feels,
but
whether
we
could
ensure
that
there
was
some
kind
of
recognition
and
like
either
at
the
one
of
the
completion
and
but
more
like
permanent
of
that.
This
was
funded
by
measure
j
I
mean
especially
for
the
ones
who
are
giving
half
a
million
dollars
to
the
mizell.
There
should
be
something
there
that
says
the
kitchen.
A
E
D
Could
I
add,
just
a
couple
more
thoughts
of
let's
call
it
community
relations,
or
maybe
it's
just
pure
marketing,
as
a
separate
from
how
nancy
how
you
document
with
the
recipient,
the
terms
of
getting
funding?
So
this
is
a
non-legal
non-transactional
comment.
D
I
think
it's
important
that
the
parties
that
are
on
the
yes
list
here
hear
that
they're
on
the
guest
list
and
get
a
soft
set
of
information
on
what
conditions
need
to
be
sorted
through
before
the
project
is,
goes,
live
and
then
secondary
would
be
how
we
take
all
this
great
news,
which
I
don't
think
has
been
packaged
out
and
broadcast
directly
by
the
city
of
this
is
what
measured
measure
j
with
the
s
with
the
approval
from
city
council
is
now
doing
this.
A
Was
was
there
any
increases
in
communications,
department
or
budget.
B
A
So
that
may
be,
because
I
know
in
the
past
you
know
one
of
the
big
issues
is
that
there
was
one
person
doing
everything
and
she
was
amenable,
but
the
stretch
thin
amy.
So
that
might
be
something
on
a
future
agenda
or-
and
I
don't
know
how
we
as
how
what
happened
with
the
subcommittees.
But
if
we're
not,
if
we're
not
supposed
to
do
subcommittees,
then
we
could
have
or
come
and
just
talk
about
how
we
could
help
promote
measure,
j
and.
D
This
there's
great
there's
great
news
here
and
unless
you
go
to
a
couple
of
sources,
a
couple
of
websites,
you
don't
know
about
it,.
A
Well,
maybe
what
I
would
suggest
is
if
everyone's
okay
with
it,
I
can
just
reach
out
to
amy
and
say
we
understand
that
there
was
a
lot
of
constraints
and
in
terms
of
resources
that
you
had
and
that
may
change,
and
but
now
especially
there's
lots
of
great
news
from
measure
j
that
could
be
put
out.
As
you
look
at
your
this
coming
year
to
think
about
how
it
could
be
incorporated
so
and
then
we'll
see.
A
A
Okay,
so
I
guess
we're
gonna
go
on
to
the
summer
schedule.
We
are
canceling.
We
have
no
august
meeting
right
well,.
D
Actually,
before
we
hop
on
this-
I
I
don't
know
if
this
next
question
is
aligns
with
the
agenda,
but
we're
talking
about
projects
and
community
projects.
We
do
just
need
to
sort
through
some
some
planning
steps.
Once
we
come
back
to
school
in
september,
yeah.
A
A
So
the
things
that
I
had
put
down
and
there's
others
to
discuss
are
the
road
map
for
the
year,
which
is
something
that
had
been
done
in
the
past,
how
we're
going
to
handle
the
the
remainder
of
the
community
project's
budget
from
this
current
fiscal
year
that
that
we're
not
allocated,
but
we
have
those
mostly
that
we
have
a
lot
of
projects
that
were
there,
how
we
handle
the
the
parks
and
then
something
that
came
up
at
the
joint
city
council
meeting
was
discussion
about
regular
annual
set
asides
for
different
for
different
areas
like
parks.
A
So
do
we
want
to
go
to
city
council
at
some
point
which
I
guess
now
would
be
a
year
or
I
don't
know
when
that
would
be
and
say
we
want
to
ensure
that
going
forward.
You
know
where
there's
we
have
six
million
dollars
a
year
for
the
road
paving
and
at
least
three
million
dollars.
A
year
for
the
for
parks
or
whatever
other
projects
that
come
up,
because
those
are
all
things
that
were
discussed.
A
E
Yeah,
I
there's
not
enough
of
us
here
tonight
to
talk
about
it,
but
having
gone
through
this
first
time
with
the
application
and
being
on
the
small
committee
with
sid
and
naomi.
E
Does
that
application
really
work
for
us,
and
I
was
thinking
the
billion
dollar
projects,
the
big
capital
ones,
sort
of
weight
down
our
small
community
ones
and
the
things
under
a
million
the
community
projects
that
we
want
organizations
to
avail
themselves,
and
it
would
be,
I
think,
a
time
to
kind
of
review
the
process
and
be
aware
of
how
we
are
scoring
it
and
what
our
roles
are
in
that.
E
So
the
discussion
that
came
up
this
year
does
not
come
up
again
and
that
we're
really
clear
how
we're
scoring
these
and
how
it
comes
together.
It
was
a
very
communal
process
and
very
we
all
were
my
opinion,
independent
in
how
we
originally
looked
at
the
projects
and
then,
as
we
came
together
as
a
group
we
went
with,
you
know,
the
highest
ones
were
were
the
projects
selected,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
the
the
application
helped
us
or
there
could
be
a
better
way
to
be
clearer
and
not
so
involved.
A
B
A
Was
very
targeted,
so
in
that
case
people
were
only
really,
it
was
only
specific
ones
for
that
or
the
other
op,
the
other.
I
think
which
you
brought
up
at
one
point
is:
maybe
there
is
a
they're
all
a
certain
level
of
project,
they're,
all
a
hundred
thousand
and
below
or
whatever
the
number
is
yeah?
That's
you
know
I
mean
the
only
problem
then
is
you're
gonna
have
you
could
have
15
small
projects
that
have
to
go
to
engineering
which
could
be
yeah.
E
Well,
I
don't
know,
I
just
thought
you
were
talking
community
projects
and
I
I
do
know
miss
soto
was
very
adamant.
I
believe
about
the
small
guy
getting
some
of
major
j
money
and
underserved
communities
or
whatever,
and
we
end
up
doing
some
of
these
wonderful
major
things,
big
city
projects,
so
yeah.
I
think
we
have
to
kind
of
balance
that
and
I
don't
know
how
we
separate
them.
E
I
don't
know,
I
just
think
we
need
to
talk
about
it
individually
and
think
about
it.
A
little
bit
before
we
open
the
whole
process
up
everything
can't
be
sent
to
joel.
You
know
that's
just
impossible
and
that's
what
kind
of
seems
to
be
the
flow.
D
Yeah
I
just
as
a
response
that
I
thought
the
process
might
have
it
might
have.
It
might
have
taken
some
criticism
that,
frankly,
I
think
was
just
misguided,
misinformed,
misinformed.
D
B
I
think,
maybe
if
when
we
get
our
communications
director
in
here
manager,
whatever
that
title
is
that
maybe
we
can
start
blasting
on
social
media
a
little
earlier.
D
B
A
A
We
may
have
to
sort
through
a
lot
of
them,
but
the
number
of
them
that
make
it
through
may
be
a
little
bit
more
limited
and
focused.
So
that's
another
thing
to
keep
in
consideration,
because
we
have
the
1.6
million
of
projects
and
we
still
have
a
1.4
that
we
have
to
sort
out
for
the
parks
things
so
there's
a
whole
lot
of
projects
there.
That
cover
a
lot
of
things.
F
Right,
so,
if
I
just
my
opinion
on
the
conversation
community
initiative
projects,
I
think
that
we
got.
We
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
now
and,
as
you
mentioned,
there's
other
projects
in
parks.
F
If
you
put
out
another
call
in
the
next
year
for
community
issues,
project
initiative
projects,
whatever
we
don't
get
to
this
year-
it's
just
going
to
be
delayed
for
next
year
and
any
new
project
that's
coming
in
is
going
to
be
delayed
more
so
I
think
if
we
stack
them
too
close
together
every
year,
the
expectations
and
the
frustration
might
from
the
applicants
might
grow
and
may
be
detrimental
to
the
whole
process.
F
I'm
thinking
that,
maybe
it's
a
bi-annual
every
two
years.
You
do
a
call
for
projects
and
then
in
between
those
two
years,
if
we
don't
spend
all
the
community
issue
projects,
we
look
internally
for
like
the
smaller
projects
in
the
parks
and
rec.
So
a
fine
balance
there
between
asking
the
community
for
input,
taking
all
this
input,
creating
projects
that
we're
not
going
to
get
to
in
a
timely
manner.
So
yeah.
A
Why
don't
we
I
mean,
I
think
we
should
have
this.
As
you
know,
a
discussion
in
september,
my
internet's
unstable.
A
Because
we
have
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
just
adding
more
projects
that
don't
get
done
for
years
and
maybe
there's
other
ways
like
it's
very
targeted
towards,
like
you
know,
a
very
focused
area
in
which
it's
really
one
project
and
just
it's
determined
where
it
happens,
or
it's
biannual
or
or
or
another
option.
So
I
think
I
think
we
can
discuss
it.
You
know
when
everyone's
around
in
september
and
then
we
can
come
up
with
a
plan
for
it,
but
also
the
other
issue.
A
Is
that
one
of
the
reasons
we
we
did
the
community
projects
like
this
was
also
because
we
didn't
yet
have
city
council
giving
us
any
direction
on
the
major
projects.
That's
right,
but
we
spent
four
or
five
months
working
on
it
as
a
commission
which,
presumably
next
year,
if
we're
actually
going
back
to
the
way
it
was
before,
where
we're
going
to
start
in
september
or
october,
really
to
look
at
how
we're
going
to
recommend
all
the
23
24
budget.
A
J
funds
plus
whatever
has
been
carried
over
and
we're
going
to
have
to
really
spend
the
next
fiscal
year
determining
our
recommendations
for
that,
some
of
which
may
be
additional
set-asides
that
are
already
in
the
five-year
plan,
but
that
that's
where
we're
gonna
have
to
do
it,
and
so
that
in
the
past,
when
we
did
that
road
map
took
three
or
four
or
five
meetings
to
do
that.
So
that
doesn't
leave
a
lot
of
time
for
going
through
a
million
community
of
initiated
projects
either.
From
our
point
of
view,.
E
I
think
joelle
is
really
right
on
target
because
nothing
makes
the
community
angrier
than
not
seeing
things
get
done.
You
know
people
say
to
me
where
what's
major
j
and
if
you
can
really
get
some
projects
completed
in
the
next
two
years
on
the
road
people
would
be
in
my
people,
I
know,
would
very
much
appreciate
that
and
have
much
more
respect
for
the
work
that
gets
done
by
those
commissions,
and
we
you
know
if
you
can
get
some
of
that
out
of
your
pipeline
joel.
E
That
would
really
help
you
too,
so
that
that
may
be
something
and
if
we're
not
doing
community
projects,
maybe
we
really
work
on
pr.
As
a
commission,
we
spend
a
year
really
working
on
good
pr.
What
is
major
day
and
what
has
been
done
and
there's
been
some
concerns
with
it.
So
much
work
and
everything
goes
to
our
engineers
and.
A
E
It's
all
of
the
staff,
all
of
you
are
so
out
there
by
yourselves
with
so
much
work.
I
think
there
has
to
be
a
year
off,
so
you
get
caught
up
with
stuff.
So.
A
The
way
the
way
the
commission
used
to
work
in
previous
years
is
that
at
the
september
meeting,
even
though
we
didn't
have
it
without
we
had
a
roadblock
every
single
month
or
meeting
was
determined
basically
what
we
would
try
to
cover-
and
you
know-
and
that
may
have
been
you
know-
a
full
commission
review
of
where
the
product,
the
current
project
stand,
or
it
may
have
been
a
a
review
of
what
engineering
is
recommending
us
to
look
at
for
23
24
season,
but
we
could
also
add
in
the
community
projects,
and
it
all
should
work
towards
that.
A
E
C
Over
the
years,
the
the
planning
commission
of
the
there
have
been
a
few
of
the
commissions
that
have
given
like
coronary
reports
at
the
city
council
meeting
and
showing
highlights
of
things
that
they're
doing
almost
a
slideshow
and
giving
reports
like
that,
and
that's
something
that
I've
always
felt
that
it's
something
like
why.
Why
aren't
we
giving
a
quarterly
report
with
all
of
these
kind
of
things
like
the
six
million
dollars
and
the
and
the
3.1
million
dollars
that
are
being
done?
C
That
shows
people
on
television,
these
projects
that
are
being
done
and
being
initiated
by
us.
I
think
it
does
twofold.
It
also
gives
them
an
an
indication
of
what
they
voted
for
10
years
ago
to
to
give
a
one
percent
sales
tax
for
measure
j
and
shows
them
exactly
what's
going
on
and
and
what
this
group
meets
about,
because
most
people
have
no
idea.
C
At
least
quarterly
at
the
city
council
meeting
is
something
that
I
think
the
newspaper
would
pick
up
a
story
about
because
we're
not
getting
any
of
that
publicity
and
I'm
not
I'm
not
blaming
amy
she's
got
a
lot
on
her
plate,
but
these
are
things
that
that
I
think
that
the
newspaper
and
things
things
that
we're
looking
at
things
that
we're
talking
about
things
that
people
bring
up
and
bring
up
at
our
meetings
and
public
comments.
I
think
this
should
be
an
ongoing
story
about
measure
j.
C
So
we're
not
like
a
like
a
step
child.
That's
a.
E
A
A
Maybe
it's
a
quarter,
maybe
once
a
quarter,
there's
a
big
push
for
measure
j,
both
at
city,
council
and
the
public.
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
answer,
but
that
way
it
sort
of
ties
together.
I
know
they
want
to
limit
number
of
presentations
at
the
meetings,
but
something
you
know
like
that.
So
what
I
would
suggest
september
is,
prior
to
september,
I'll
talk
to
amy
and
we'll
see
we'll
have
a
discussion
about
communications
at
the
next
meeting.
A
We'll
have
a
plan
for
the
road
map
for
the
for
the
year
ahead,
understanding
that
it
might
depend
on
when
council
dates
change,
but
there's
no.
There
should
always
be
a
meeting
we'll
have
a
discussion
on
community
projects,
both
the
on
on
the
unspent
for
22
23,
on
what
to
do
going
forward
and
a
potential
raise,
and
then
we
can
have
a
discussion
on
whether
we
want
to
specifically
allocate
parts
of
measure
j
for
different
areas
going
forward.
E
A
A
We
can
discuss
the
commission
that
did
we
just
approve
that
then,
and
there
so
or
recommend
it,
then,
rather
so
that
that
would
be
things
and
then,
when
you're
looking
at,
you
already
have
pretty
much
what
you
want
for
your
capital
budget
for
23
24
right
I
mean
that
was
part
of
your
five-year
plan.
A
And
then,
if
you
have
specifically
what
you're
asking
for
measure
j,
then
that's
our
discussion
throughout
the
year
is
to
say:
okay,
what
do
we
actually
want
to
recommend
you
know
and
again
it
would
be
like
last
year
it
may
not.
No
one
may
listen
or
they
may,
but,
but
I
think,
if
we
have
this
whole
plan
for
the
whole
year,
we
don't
get
sidetracked
onto
are
we
are
we
community
projects
or
communication,
or
you
know,
or
coming
up
with
new
projects
we
can't
do.
A
B
The
council
should
be
electing
at
the
next
meeting,
no.
A
I
mean
we,
the
commissioners,
we
as
a
commission
elect
our.
A
B
That's
in
september
and
for
renewing
commissioners
council
will
be
doing
so
and
at
the
next
meeting.
B
What
your
term
expired
on
june-
30th,
yes,
yes,
yeah,
so
they've
extended
it
and
then
they're
going
to
council's
going
to
go
back
to
the
next
meeting
and
make
decisions.
A
B
B
Mm-Hmm
all
commissions
are
going
to
have,
I
think,
a
maximum
of
five.
A
C
C
Of
gave
the
direction,
and
I
apologize-
I
just
now
remembered
this,
but
justin
sort
of
gave
the
direction
to
start
the
communication,
with
the
commissions
about
getting
down
to
five
and
what
that
might
look
like
through
attrition
and
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
so
I
think
it
is
a.
I
think
it
is
sort
of
a
done
deal
and
that
we
should
be
thinking
about
it
and
having
discussions
about
it.
F
No,
I
think
they
were
trying
to
be
very
talkable
with
that.
So
if
you
a
two
term
that
you
get
to
serve
the
second
term
and
then
after
that,
you
would
not
you
would
if
you're
at
over
the
five
members
they
would
trigger,
they
would
not
yeah
but
yeah.
No,
you
would
get
to
serve
your
entire
term
if
you
or
your
second
term.
A
C
I
would
just
like
to
see
us
really
really
pursue
nancy
us
getting
the
name
measure
j
back
out
there
again
like
it
was
when
it
was
passed
10
years
ago,
because
it's
to
me
anybody
I
talked
to
in
general,
they've
heard
the
name
they
don't
know
have
any
idea
what
it's
about,
what
it
does
what's
going
on
and
we
haven't
had
any
press,
and
I
I
really
would
like
to
see
this
6
million
in
this
3
million.
C
I'd
like
to
see
articles
about
this
in
the
newspaper
you
know
I
mean
this
is
this-
is
the
type
of
thing
that
you
know?
There's
no
reason
why
why
the
chairman,
or
the
vice
chairman,
can't
be
doing
an
episode
of
the
show
eye
on
the
desert
talking
about
measure
j.
These
are
things
that
I
think
the
public
should
be
knowing
more
about.
What's
going
on
with
this
organization,
they
see
that
I
mean
I
mean
we
see
the
planning
commission
meetings
are
still
on
the
air.
C
Ours
are
not
so
there's
a
so
there's
a
priority
consideration
there
and
I'm
not
saying
that
we're
the
stepchild,
but
this
is
something
that
the
voters
voted
to
give
a
one
percent
increase
in
their
taxes
to
pay
for
this,
and
it's
they
don't
even
know
what
it's
about
anymore,
and
I
really
would
like
to
see
us
get.
C
B
Now
I
think
we
talked
about
this
before
and
I
don't
want
to
say
it's
a
given
or
a
go,
but
remember
we
have
measure
j.
Don't
we
have
a
measure
j
10
that
we
were
going
to
use
at
one
of
the
measure,
j,
picnics
or
one
of
the
picnics
somebody
can
reach
out.
B
A
Think
what
you
know
and
what
commissioner
craig
is
bringing
to
the
point,
is
that
it
you
know
we
had
lots
of
little
ideas.
We
had
ideas
of
the
tents
you
know
and
the
signs
and
and
press
releases
and
the
social
media.
I
think
I
think
it's
at
the
point
where
we
have
to
say
what
is
the
full
plan
on
an
ongoing
basis
so
that
it's
manageable
by
current
staff
and
resources
with
measure
j's
help,
and
we
just
make
sure
everything
gets
slotted
into
that.
A
A
One
of
the
things
I
would
make
sure
is
that
every
time
something
goes
before,
city
council
is
emphasized
that
this
is
coming
from
measure
day
fun,
because
then
they
start
saying
it
and
some
of
the
and
I
think
most
is
but
a
couple
times
they
won't
always.
You
know
wasn't
always
highlighted,
and
I
think
that
would
just
it's
in
there
you
know,
then
it
becomes
public
discussion
by
them
as
well.
C
I
I
would
also
like
to
suggest
that
if
we
could
get
from
amy
in
september
or
october,
a
list
of
just
the
basic
upcoming,
stable
events
that
the
city
has
public
events
for
22
20
from
fall
of
22
to
fall
of
23,
that
we
can
at
least
look
at
it
and
say:
okay,
here's
a
couple
of
things:
we'd
like
to
be
able
to
participate
at.
B
That
one,
you
know
you
could
reach
out
said
denise
goldsby
has
that.
C
Okay,
then
I'll,
may
I,
mr
jeremy,
I
contact
denise
yeah,
I
mean
some
of
the
better.
You
know.
A
Thank,
I
think,
it's
probably
better,
because
it's
the
residence
versus
versus
village
fest,
which
also
has
a
lot
of
tourists,
but
it
could
be.
But
you
know
things
that
involve
a
lot
of
residents,
are
probably
what
matters
the
most
to
get
the
word
out
or,
if
they're
at
venues
that
have
benefited
from
us.
You
know.
So,
if
it
is,
you
know
they
have
a
lot
of
events
in
the
downtown
park.
E
E
E
Well,
where
are
you
with
the
roundabout
and
you
know,
I'm
I
don't
know
we
have
to
ask
joelle,
and
so,
if
you
kind
of
say
we're
working
on
this
as
a
citizen,
you
have
a
better
response
to
the
community
that
you
can
actually
say
that's
in
the
pipeline,
and
you
know
that's
a
project
for
224
or
have
some
knowledgeable
idea
where
we
are
in
all
these
things.
There's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
good
discussion
this
afternoon.
I
think
about
this.
A
That
that
exactly
what
you're
saying
was
part
of
actually
the
monthly
packet
in
the
past
and
and
that
way
we
would
see
it
in
that
way.
It's
public
record
and
people
could
see
it
too,
and
it
wasn't
a
brand
again.
It's
not
a
brand
new
report
every
time
because
it
would
drive
joel
nuts,
but
it
was
just
one
report
done
in
the
beginning
of
the
year
that
got
you
know
little
update,
notes
as
as
necessary
and
not
major
engineering
notes,
just
public
information
notes,
so
they
knew.
C
B
D
A
For
september,
and
we
can
come
back,
you
know
going
full
steam
ahead
and-
and
I
have
to
say
again-
I
think
you
know
getting
all
this
stuff
on
the
budget
was
a
pretty.
You
know.
A
Amazing
of
our
little
part,
was
pretty
amazing,
but
the
whole
budget
was
pretty
amazing
and-
and
you
know,
there's
a
lot-
that's
going
to
happen
in
this
city,
which
is
nice,
you
know,
and-
and
we
have
so
it's
nice
to
see
it
happen,
and
hopefully,
when
you
get
all
the
resources
that
you
need
it'll
be
a
little
bit
easier
for
you
to
to
do
it
and
and
again
we
are
here
to
support
and
help
and
do
whatever
we
can
as
a
commission,
which
I
know
is
somewhat
limited,
but
we
are.
E
I
think
also,
I
am
grateful
to
the
council
that
there
was
not
a
whole
lot
of
disagreement
if,
at
all
any
in
the
projects
which
said
to
me,
they
respected
the
work
that
was
done
and
saw
that
they
were
important
projects
too.
So
I
I
was
appreciative
of
the
five
people
who
approved
all
this
money.
Also,
yes,.
E
A
Well,
we're
not
meeting
we're
not
meeting
in
august
right
right,
so
this
next
one
will
be
september
and
by
that
time
we're
gonna.
Prior
to
that,
we'll
try
and
you
know
I'll
have
a
conversation
with
amy
say:
they'll
have
a
conversation
with
denise,
we'll
try
and
work
on
a
draft
road
map
for
the
year
and
we'll
have
those
few
agenda
items.
I
brought
up
the
community
projects,
the
new
ones,
the
old
ones,
the
raise
the
parks
and
rec
and
and
how
we're
going
to
go
forward
forward.
So
yeah.