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A
B
D
E
E
I'm
sorry
Richard
B
AMA
is
the
is
the
matter
that
I'm
drawing
your
attention
to
I've
spoken
to
attorney
Cromer
who's
present
here
raising
his
hand
out
there
saying
hello
he's
available
for
questions
if
you
have
any,
but
at
this
juncture,
there's
ongoing
discussions
between
the
city
and
the
appellant
with
respect
to
a
possible
resolution
of
this
appeal
without
the
necessity
of
hearing
so
the
appellant
is
requesting
and
the
city's
joining
in
the
request
that
this
matter
be
carried
over
until
the
board's
next
hearing
date.
Mr.
Mejia,
do
we
have
a
date
selected
in
April?
E
We
do
it's
April
3rd,
so
we
would
continue
this
matter
until
April
3rd
and
we'll
have
this
matter
handled
by
then
or
presented
for
hearing
on
the
appeal.
I
would
only
ask
mr.
Cromer
to
personally
come
on
down
for
a
second
verify
here
at
the
dais
that
he
is
in
fact
the
attorney
for
the
appellant
and
joins
in
this
request,
and
it
would
be
appropriate
if
the
board
is
is
in
agreement
to
allow
this
matter
to
be
continued
to
do
so.
When
you
review
the
agenda.
Mr.
Cromer.
A
A
A
A
F
A
At
this
time
we
will
open
the
floor
to
public
comment.
Please
note
that,
as
we
call
each
agenda
item
and
tonight
there
will
be
four
agenda
items,
there
will
be
an
opportunity
for
the
public
to
comment
with
respect
to
each
one
of
those
cases.
But
before
we
open
with
agenda
item
number
one,
we
will
open
for
public
comment
at
this
time.
A
A
Public
comments
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes
per
comment,
whether
you
comment
now
or
during
one
of
the
agenda
items
to
address
the
board,
as
we
mentioned
earlier,
you
will
need
to
fill
out
a
speaker
card
with
our
city
clerk
and
finally,
as
the
presiding
officer,
I
will
call
your
name
when
I've
received
your
card
from
the
city
clerk
and
then
you
may
approach
the
dais
at
this
time.
Are
there
any
comment
cards
we.
I
Afternoon
my
name
is
Judith
an
ER
from
Palm
Springs,
California
I
pulled
up
the
local
appointments
and,
under
the
local
appointments
of
administrative
appeal
board
I
see
that
there
are
five
names
on
July
17.
There
were
four
board
members
present
item
number
two
D
resulted
in
a
vote
for
tie
I
atom
number
2
C
resulted
in
a
void
in
a
vote
for
tie
and
that's
July
17,
okay,
burr
27
item
number
1
B
resulted
in
a
vote
of
a
tie
and
on
November
13
item
number
1
D
resulted
in
a
tie.
I
I
put
up
I
brought
up
the
resolution
that
was
signed
on
July,
28
17
and
under
7.75
outs
in
the
middle
of
the
paragraph.
If
a
tie
vote
on
any
matter
results
at
any
at
a
time
when
less
than
all
members
of
the
board
are
present,
the
matter
shall
automatically
be
continued
to
the
agenda
of
the
next
regular
meeting
of
the
board
unless
advise
ordered
by
the
board.
I
A
Mr.
cotton,
yes
at
this
time,
I
would
ask
having
listened
to
the
first
public
comment
of
the
day.
Do
you
do
you
have
any
reply
to
that
comment
regarding
our
procedures
and
the
need.
E
To
see
what
resolution
ms
an
or
was
referencing
under
Chapter
2.5
of
the
Municipal
Code,
we
have
a
quorum
when
we
have
three
and
we
have
action
being
taken
on
an
appeal
with
respect
to
any
matter
before
this
board
upon
a
majority
of
the
quorum.
If
there's
not
a
majority
of
the
quorum,
that's
going
to
vote
in
favor
of
the
appellant,
the
appeal
is
not
granted.
The
appeal
is
effectively
denied
by
the
Typhon,
so
I'd
be
happy
to
review
the
resolution
that
she's
referencing
I'm
not
sure
exactly
what
it
is.
Thank.
A
Well,
now,
proceed
with
agenda
item
number
one
before
we
begin
I'll.
Let
the
public
know
that
the
way
we
proceed
is
to
start
with
the
city
presenting
their
case
after
the
city
presents
their
case.
The
board
will
have
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions
of
our
city
officials.
After
that,
the
appellant
the
homeowner
will
be
able
to
come
up
and
present
their
case.
We
allow
homeowners
ten
minutes
to
present
their
case.
You
can
present
individually
or
if
you
want
to
have
both
homeowners
present.
That's
permissible.
A
A
After
the
appellant
have
presented
their
case,
the
board
will
have
an
opportunity
to
ask
you
questions.
If
there
are
any
and
the
city
will
have
an
opportunity,
then
to
present
rebuttal
evidence
if
there
is
any
to
clarify
issues
that
were
raised
once
the
case
is
closed
and
all
the
evidence
has
been
presented,
the
board
will
deliberate
in
the
open
and
come
to
a
resolution,
and
you
will
know
the
result
of
your
hearing
this
evening
after
your
case
is
concluded.
A
So
at
that
time,
I'd
like
to
call
Genda
item
number
one
on
an
appeal
of
the
administrative
decision
that
David
Byron
and
Reno
Dori
Qi
are
permanently
ineligible
to
operate
a
vacation
rental
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
and
the
administrative
fine
for
operating
an
unregistered
vacation
rental
property.
The
property
is
located
at
5:05
South
Farrell
unit
h50
in
Palm
Springs
California.
At
this
time,
I'll
turn
the
floor
over
to
the
city
to
present
their
case.
J
Thank
You,
chair
Reed,
as
mentioned
the
property
located
at
505
South
Farrell
unit
H
50
in
Palm.
Springs,
is
what
we're
discussing
today.
This
particular
property
has
not
been
issued.
A
vacation
rental
registration
certificate
by
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
As
of
the
date
of
the
administrative
citation
issuance
On
January,
2nd
2018
staff
is
determined
that
the
owners,
mr.
Byron
and
mr.
Dury
Chi,
have
advertised
and
operated
the
property
as
a
vacation
rental
without
a
registration
certificate.
You
have
the
municipal
codes
in
your
staff
report
that
pertained
to
this
matter.
J
These
are
at
500
South
Farrell
drive
unit
o
94,
which
was
registered
in
March
of
2013
and
unit
505
south
Farrell
a-1
registered.
As
of
November
1st
2016
officer,
David
Williams
from
our
department
who
issued
the
citation,
is
here
today,
if
you
have
questions
and
I'm
also
happy
to
answer
any
that
you
might
have.
Thank
you
and.
E
E
K
E
K
Actually
investigated
this,
this
was
based
off
of
a
lead
for
this
community,
miss
ski
country
club.
We
actually
get
quite
a
bit
of
leads
into
this
property,
so
I
found
the
ad
and
I
sent
an
email
asking
if
I
could
book
the
property
and
if
you'd
like
I,
can
read
that
yes
good
evening,
I
would
like
to
see
if
your
beautiful
home
is
available.
May
24th,
2018
to
June,
6,
June,
7th
2018,
my
husband
and
I,
will
be
in
Palm
Springs
for
a
friend's
wedding
and
just
decided
to
make
a
vacation
out
of
it.
K
Please
let
me
know
if
it
is
available
and
I
can
book
it
right
away.
So
I
received
a
response,
it
just
says
from
David
or
Bree,
no,
not
long
after
I
submitted
the
inquiry,
and
that
says
dear
Mike
Wilson.
Thank
you
for
your
inquiry
about
my
vacation
rental.
The
property
is
available:
May,
24th,
2008,
een,
June,
7,
2008,
een
and
I'd
like
to
invite
you
to
book
I'd
like
to
invite
you
to
stay.
You
are
pre-approved
to
book,
so
you
will
automatically
be
confirmed.
K
K
K
E
A
A
A
Mr.
Byron
I
know
I'm
pronouncing
your
name
correctly
and
I
apologize.
Sir
I'm
pronouncing
your
name
incorrectly.
How
do
you,
how
do
you
pronounce
your
last
name
so
I
did
get
a
correct.
Thank
you
very
good,
so
you
may
present
in
any
way
you
see
fit.
You
have
10
minutes
from
beginning.
You
can
share
the
dais
or
you
can.
One
of
you
can
tell
us
your
story.
Basically.
F
We,
this
is
our
third
property
that
we
purchased
all
in
the
same
community,
so
the
advertisement
was
basically
a
cut
and
paste
version
of
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
what
you're
referencing.
That's
a
VRBO
there's
an
automated
response.
That
goes
back.
That
says,
if
those
dates
are
available
on
the
calendar
that
that
automatic
response
goes
back
saying
that's
available
once
we
realized
that
the
county
was
no
longer
doing
short-term
rentals
and
we're
not
gonna
give
us
a
permit
for
that
unit.
F
Anything
that
came
in
under
that
time
would
get
an
automatic
response
which
we
did
not
accept
and
we
have
not
had
any
rentals
for
less
than
29
days
again.
The
reason
that
it
was
like
that
was
because
we
bought
it
the
year
before
we
had
been
having
rentals,
but
they
came
with
rentals
that
were
all
29
days
or
longer
and
again
the
advertisement
was
based
on
the
fact
that
we
were
copying
and
pasting
it
from
our
other
units.
F
F
C
C
A
A
C
A
Wanted
to
ask
you
the
other
two
properties
that
you
have
registered
did.
Did
you
were
you
the
gentleman
who
registered
the
property,
so
you
actually
filled
out
the
paperwork
filed
it
with
the
city
and
then
received
the
permits?
Yes,
is
there
a
reason
why,
when
you
purchase
this
third
property,
you
didn't
go
through
the
exact
same
process.
Oh.
F
F
We
didn't
know
what
the
city
was
gonna
do
we
were
just
gonna,
mirror
it
overall
after
our
other
two
properties,
that
when
the
city
said
that,
if
you've
already
got
a
permit,
you
only
get
one
permit
we
had
to
so
we
were
grandfathered
in
and
when
we
talked
to
the
people
on
the
phone,
they
just
basically
said
that
in
order
to
get
around
that
was
you
just
couldn't
take
short-term
rentals,
but
if
you
were
gonna
do
that
that
you
didn't?
You
know,
you
didn't
need
that
for
me.
A
A
F
So
when
we
purchase
the
home,
it
was
already
being
used
as
a
rental
property
and
they
had
two
rentals
that
had
already
been
assigned.
So
when
we
bought
it,
part
of
our
contract
was
that
we
would
keep
those
which
was
each
of
them
were
either
five
or
six
weeks.
So
basically
was
January
February
March
to
renters.
G
G
G
G
Seemed
Lin,
as
in
his
comments
that
he
had
talked
to
somebody
personally
about
renting
the
property
for
a
short
period
of
time
and
was
told
that
it
was
available.
But
it's
sounding
to
me
unless
I'm
confused,
which
I
may
well
be
that
all
of
this
was
an
automated
conversation
that
neither
of
you
took
part
in
so
I'm.
Just
sort
of
up
in
the
air.
E
I'm
just
confirming
with
Miss
Severn
what
I
understood
to
be
the
case
from
the
testimony
I
think
it
was
likely
an
automated
email.
No,
the
officers
saying
no
was
not
so
he'll
he'll
testify
after
you're
done
with
the
appellant.
Okay.
Thank
you
we'll
give
them
an
extra
minute
for
this
dialogue
that
we've
had
may.
F
C
Could
have
possibly
talked
to
me,
I,
just
I'm
running
three
different
properties
and
I.
Don't
know
you
know
which
sometimes
I
just
get
the
thing
on
the
phone
and
I
just
hit
reply
and
eventually
I
mean
I.
Try
to
talk
to
most
our
customers,
I'm,
not
really
sure
I
got
I
mean
you'll,
get
both
you'll
get
automate
a
response,
and
if
they
call
me
I
mean
there's
listed.
M
C
G
A
A
A
E
Bertie's
stark
is
telling
me
it's
page,
47
in
your
packet
and
as
you're
reviewing
that
chairman
read
just
in
the
interest
of
time,
because
we
have
other
matters
to
proceed
to
from
this
position
of
the
city.
There's
really
no
factual
issue
here,
they've
acknowledged
making
a
mistake.
Unfortunately,
their
mistake
is
a
violation
of
our
ordinance
and
that's
kind
of
where
we
are.
A
J
Yes,
thank
you.
You
know.
I'm
I
have
a
copy
of
the
other
advertisements
from
the
two
vacation,
rentals
that
are
registered
and
I'm
just
doing
a
quick
check
and-
and
they
all
all
three
seem
very
different
to
me.
I
know
you
don't
have
the
two
that
are
registered
in
your
package.
I
didn't
think
that
that
was
pertinent,
but
based
on
what
the
appellant
said,
I'm
taking
a
quick
look
and
they're
very
different
there.
They
seem
to
be
customized
each
each
of
the
three
to.
A
A
H
A
Well
note
that
with
the
regulation
of
the
city
adopted
believe
it
was
yesterday
after
the
summer
early
fall
late
summer,
it
was
very
clear
that
the
city's
intent
was
to
define
the
operation
of
a
short
term
vacation
rental
to
include
advertising
holding
that
out
for
a
short
term
period
that
met
the
definition
of
the
statute
of
the
ordinance
I'm.
Sorry,
at
this
time,
I'll
call
for
a
motion
on
this
case.
I.
C
G
A
A
A
A
Agenda
item
number
three,
which
is
an
appeal
of
the
administrative
decision
that
karate
Properties
LLC,
is
permanently
ineligible
to
operate
a
vacation
rental
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
and
the
administrative
fine
for
operating
an
unregistered
vacation
rental
property
located
at
2810,
North
Arcadia
court
unit,
2:06,
Palm,
Springs,
California.
I.
Note
also
that
individuals
Christopher
Lyon,
do
it
I
pronounce
some
apologize.
If
I
don't
pronounce
your
name
correctly.
Leon,
Dukakis
and
Daniel
Crotty
are
also
identified
as
individuals
who
would
be
permanently
ineligible
to
operate.
A
E
N
Our
staff
sent
an
inquiry
on
December
23rd
2017
to
book
the
dates
of
January
29th
2018
through
January
31st
2018
for
two
nights
and
was
responded
to
as
available,
and
a
host
den
Crotty
responded
to
hello.
Yes,
it's
available
for
your
dates
that
can
be
found
on
page
24
of
your
packet
property
shows
a
minimum
stay
of
two
nights.
That's
page
number
30
in
the
packet
property
advertisement
shows
100%
response
rate
by
the
host.
That's
located
on
page
30.
N
The
staff
notes
that
kimberly
francis
leonid
Aki's
Crotty,
christopher
leonid
aqus
and
daniel
Crotty
are
managing
members
owners
of
the
karate
Properties
LLC.
The
administrative
citation
was
mailed
by
staff
via
on
track.
That
concludes
the
staff
report
I'm
available
for
any
questions
that
you
may
have
Thank
You.
D
N
D
To
address
the
question,
it
was
a
community
lead
that
came
in
and
then
based
off
that
community
lead.
We
further
investigated
I
specifically
made
a
an
inquiry
stating
hello:
I
will
be
in
the
Palm
Springs
area
for
a
few
days
for
work.
January
29th
2018
through
January,
31st,
2018
and
I,
was
wondering
if
this
place
was
available
for
a
few
days.
Thanks
and
then
Dan
I
got
a
response
says
dan
sent
a
message
says
hello:
it
is
available
for
your
dates,
dan
and
then
I
did
also
reply.
D
N
D
N
C
H
A
E
M
M
M
So
when
we
went
to
get
the
letter
to
send
you
guys
there
they're
saying
no,
that
that's
not
true
that
it's
there's
no
restrictions,
so
we
showed
them
the
letter
that
we
got
from
the
other
company
and
they
said
well
that
that's
they
don't
you
know,
use
them
anymore.
So
it's
not
their
problem.
So
basically,
we've
been
we're.
M
M
M
M
M
H
The
HOA,
if
your
HOA
said
that
you
guys
were
free
to
rent,
for
you
know
the
day
at
a
time
short-term
rentals.
It
wouldn't
matter
really
because
there's
a
there's,
a
city,
citywide
ordinance,
I'm
sure,
you've
heard
about.
M
H
That
that
is
restricting,
and
it's
up
you
know
it's
hot-button
issue,
there's
a
lot
of
debate
about
it,
but
that's
why
you're
here
you're,
not
not
what
the
HOA,
what
they
determine.
It
really
doesn't
matter
here.
It's
separate
from
that
so
I
did
want
to
have
you
clarified
a
little
bit
about
the
the
two
nite
minimum
that
used,
that
is
part
of
the
evidence.
Is
that
minimum
stay
posted
on
your
advertisement?
M
It
was
earlier
in
the
year,
but
the
night
we
changed
it
when
we
got
the
letter
from
the
HOA
saying
we,
you
know,
violation
for
the
rules,
so
I
changed
it
in
October
and
it
took
about
four
or
five
months
for
the
VRBO
to
fix
it.
That's
because
it
kept
on
saying
the
same
thing:
night
minimum.
Even
though
it's
29
I
changed
it
right.
H
H
H
H
E
Don't
think
there's
any
material
issue
of
fact
here
with
respect
to
what
the
board's
being
asked
to
decide
and-
and
it's
funny
just
by
way
of
example,
in
terms
of
the
the
wealth
of
information
that
we
get
from
these
reports,
that
our
staff
puts
together
for
you,
so
one
bedroom
unit
about
600
square
feet.
The
capacities
listed
is
four,
that's
a
lot
and
it's
against
our
ordinance
and
as
a
practical
matter,
we're
here
because
of
a
violation
of
the
ordinance.
This
is
a
vacation
rental
operating
without
a
certificate.
E
We
give
all
of
our
permit
ease
a
lot
of
guidance
and
into
how
to
do
this.
It
went
on
for
a
long
time.
Staff
is
advising
me
this
homeowners
association
is
one
of
the
clearer
ones
in
the
community
in
terms
of
communicating
the
restriction
on
against
I
should
say
short
term
vacation
rental
and
I'll.
Just
note
that,
as
a
practical
matter,
the
reviews
not
for
the
truth
of
the
matter
asserted
but
they're
all
about
short
term
rental.
They're,
all
about
weekend.
This
and
weekend
that
and
again
there's
there's
no
material
issue
effect.
E
A
I
A
I
The
board
right
I
just
wanted
to
put
it
on
record
that
this
particular
property
is
in
the
homeowners
association
of
Palm
Springs
villas
that
the
person
that
gave
him
the
number
the
leads
for
the
citation
is
mr.
Robert
Strickland,
Strickland
and
right
now
he
was
vice
president
or
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
I.
Think
right
now
is
the
president
of
the
Association
of
the
board.
That's
the
only
the
comment.
I
want
to
say.
A
H
H
G
Yes,
I
would
only
underscore
what
mr.
Clary
stated
that
the
negotiations,
or
lack
thereof
or
statement
of
homeowners
association
with
respect
to
short-term
rentals,
is
really
irrelevant
to
this.
Proceeding
we're
here
to
apply
the
provisions
of
the
applicable
regulation
regarding
short-term
rentals.
So
a
defense,
that's
proffered
with
respect
to
a
homeowner's
association,
really
isn't
relevant
to
what
what
we're
talking
about
in
this
proceeding.
A
A
We
all
very
good.
Thank
you,
sir
we'll
be
calling
you
in
a
few
moments
so
that
the
recalls
are
permanently
ineligible
to
operate
a
vacation
rental
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
and
the
administrative
fine
for
operating
an
unregistered
vacation
rental
property
located
at
five
951
Montecito
drive
unit
number
six
in
Palm
Springs
California.
At
this
time,
we'll
turn
to
the
city
for
presentation
of
their
case.
Thank.
N
You,
chairman
Reed
and
members
of
the
board,
the
property
located
as
chairman
Reed
stated:
five.
Nine
five
on
one
two
Seto
driving
to
number
six
in
Palm
Springs
has
not
been
issued.
A
vacation
rental
permit.
As
of
the
date
of
the
administrative
citation
issuance
On
February
27
2018,
the
staff
is
determined.
The
donor
has
advertised
and
operated
a
vacation
rental
without
the
vacation
rental
permit
advertisement
of
the
property
at
59-51,
Montecito
drive
unit.
N
Six
was
found
on
Airbnb
calm
website,
as
relaxing
vacation
condo
under
advertisement
number
two
one,
four,
six,
two
one:
zero:
eight,
the
advertisement
of
the
property
and
inquiry
contained
the
following
inquiry
dated
February
twenty-fifth,
2018,
request
to
book
the
property
for
the
dates
of
May
seventh
through
May
14
2018.
A
total
of
seven
days
was
responded
as
available
to
book,
with
a
special
offer
of
one
hundred
and
sixty
four
dollars
a
night.
You
can
find
that
information
on
page
27
and
28
of
your
packet
response
rate.
N
C
H
N
D
This
was
a
proactive
fine,
it
was
not
a
community
lead.
I
was
investigating
other
properties
in
the
area,
and
I
did
find
this
advertisement
home
with
that,
I
did
decide
to
put
an
inquiry
to
book,
specifically
sent
a
inquiry
with
the
message:
hi
Roger,
thanks
for
the
special
offer
up.
Sorry
excuse
me
that
was
my
response.
The
first
response
was
hi
Roger,
my
brother
and
I
are
looking
for
places
in
the
Palm
Springs
area,
along
with
my
family,
to
stay
for
Mother's
Day
as
well
as
visit
the
outlier
areas.
D
D
A
C
H
N
I
may
adjust
that
chair
McCleary,
any
mail,
that's
outside
of
United
States
is
sent
via
FedEx
and
in
particular
course
FedEx.
We
have
the
ability
to
track
and
we
do
pay
a
premium
for
that
service
to
be
able
to
serve
individuals
who
reside
in
Canada.
In
this
case,
FedEx
was
used
to
deliver
the
letter.
Okay.
N
N
Give
me
one
second
I
apologize,
I
I
do
show
proof
of
service
to
the
local
address
that
was
signed
by
mr.
Rahall
on
three
seven,
two
thousand
eighteen
through
USPS
actually
and
through
a
certified
mail.
I
apologize
I
stand
corrected.
It's.
N
D
D
O
O
Grounds
for
my
migrants
are
appeal
that
I
had
this
Notice
of
Violation
in
the
first
week
of
March
2018
I'm
only
here
in
winter
months,
in
Palm,
Springs
I
am
a
resident
of
Canada,
and
my
mailing
address
also
is
Canadian
I
receive
all
my
property
tax
bills
and
other
correspondence
from
Riverside
County
in
Canada.
I.
O
Wasn't
aware
of
this
ordinance
prior
to
this
receiving
this
letter
of
citation
they
were
there
for
this
violation
was
an
oversight
on
my
part
due
to
lack
of
awareness,
had
I
receive
any
communication
and
reminder
or
warning
I
would
have
acted
appropriately
in
an
immediate
manner
and
would
have
gotten
vacation
rental
registration
certificate.
I
am
a
law-abiding
citizen
and
follow
all
the
rules
of
the
land
and
well
last
year
lost
October.
O
We
have
used
this
condo
for
myself
and
family
I
have
listed
on
Airbnb
last
October
and
I
have
not
booked
any
rental
yet
oonh
after
I
was
aware
of
this
ordinance.
I
have
taken
my
listing
off
that
website
and
also
canceled
the
confirm
booking
$40,000
and
coming
in
April
I
am
requesting
their
white
to
allow
me
this
as
a
warning
and
waive
defines
and
cancel
the
citation.
O
I'd
like
to
clear
this
here
that
the
letter
I
received
it
was
a
registered
letter
because
I
in
bounce
playing
in
the
winter
months
here
I
keep
checking
my
mail
regularly
and
I
found
a
piece
of
note
left
by
Postal
Service
to
be
picked
up
at
the
postal
station.
So
I
went
there.
I
pick
up
a
letter
that
was
first
time.
I
saw
the
citation
and
the
ordinance
and
the
bylaw
of
a
palm
strike
city.
O
H
A
Thank
you,
sir.
You
know
testimony
testified
under
oath,
so
we
we
take
your
testimony
as
such
the
truth.
Thank
you,
sir.
At
this
time,
are
there
any
public
comments
that
are
registered
no.
G
A
G
States
that
there
is
a
violation
if
the
property
is
advertised
for
the
less
than
the
twenty
nine
days
or
it
is
rented
for
less
than
twenty
nine
days.
So
it's
not
operative
that
no
one
actually
rented
that
property
for
less
than
twenty
nine
days.
The
mere
fact
of
the
advertisement
of
the
property
is
enough
to
merit
a
violation.
A
Sir
I
did
want
to
comment
that
it
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
spend
a
great
deal
of
time
away
from
Palm
Springs,
but
the
the
laws
of
the
city
apply
equally
to
those
of
us
who
are
full-time
residents.
Those
of
us
who
are
part-time
residents
and
the
city
is
under
no
obligation
to
notify
us
individually
when
the
law
changes.
A
It's
our
obligation
as
citizens
to
know
the
laws
that
we
have
to
operate
under
as
residents,
whether
we're
part-time
or
whether
we're
a
full-time,
and
so
that
is
a
fact
that
is,
if
we're
unable
to
consider
the
board
is
required
to
follow
the
law
as
written,
which
is
if
a
vacation
rental
is
operated
and
it's
not
registered
and
it's
short-term.
We
are
to
follow
the
law
and
in
this
case,
advertising
is
one
of
the
activities
that
it
qualifies
as
operating.
A
O
A
B
A
The
board
will
now
consider
agenda
item
number
5.
This
is
an
appeal
of
the
administrative
decision
that
Jamie
Rio,
Martinez
and
pet
mean
Iain
y
are
permanently
ineligible
to
operate
a
vacation
rental
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
and
an
administrative
fine
for
operating
unregistered
vacation
rental.
The
property
is
located
at
one
eight:
zero
one
South
La
Paloma
in
Palm,
Springs
California.
At
this
time,
I'll
turn
the
floor
over
to
the
city
for
the
presentation
of
the
case.
Thank.
N
Inquiry
was
pre-approved
and
included
a
request
for
payment
that
can
be
found
on
page
37
through
page
43
of
your
packet
property
shows.
Property
advertisement
shows
a
minimum
stay
of
five
nights
on
page
22.
The
calendar
was
last
updated
on
January
22nd
2018.
That
can
also
be
found
on
page
22,
based
on
the
advertisement.
N
Information
and
the
inquiry
into
the
property
being
offered
as
a
vacation
rental
by
the
host,
the
Department
proceeded
to
issue
administrative
citation,
a
B,
zero,
zero,
seven,
eight
seven
in
the
amount
of
$5,000
to
Jamie,
Rio,
Martinez
and
Padmini,
but
many,
and
why
the
individuals
on
title
for
operating
a
vacation
rental
without
a
vacation
or
certificate.
The
administrator
citation
was
mailed
by
staff
via
on
truck
delivery
service
to
the
mailing
address
located
on
a
title
report.
That
concludes
the
staff
report
I'm
available
for
any
questions.
N
N
L
L
N
L
G
N
N
H
Are
you
the
John
Baker,
that's
in
the
that
the
ad?
That's
you
I
am,
sir
all
right.
So
are
you
also
receiving
kind
of
automated
responses
when
you
do
this
inquiry
for
the
notes?
Do
you
mean?
Is
this
something
VRBO
automatically
composes
and
sense
to
you,
the
Dear
John
Baker,
thanks
for
your
inquiry,
blah
blah
blah
correct?
Yes,
they
do
okay.
So
do
you
know,
apart
from
the
automated
response,
if
you
had
any
contact
in
this
case
with
the
actual
homeowner?
Yes,.
L
Oh,
it's
it
it's
a
response
that
the
property
owner
provides
to
verbal
it
which
is
not
automated
I.
L
Can
I
can
read
it
to
you.
Okay,
the
response
was
Dear
John
Baker.
Thank
you
for
your
inquiry
about
my
vacation
rental.
The
property
is
available
from
May
11
28
een
through
May
18,
2018
and
I'd
like
to
invite
you
to
stay.
You
are
pre-approved
to
book,
so
you
will
automatically
be
confirmed.
If
you
make
a
payment,
the
property
will
then
be
booked
for
your
requested
dates.
If
you
have
any
further
questions,
just
let
me
know
thank
you.
Jaime
Rio,
Martinez.
H
L
H
E
N
Thank
you.
Mr.
Codd
can,
when
an
individual
sends
an
inquiry
for
a
booking
online,
the
host
has
options.
They
can
deny
the
inquiry.
They
can
approve
the
inquiry
so
for
this
Corie
to
be
sent
out,
the
host
had
to
accept
the
inquiry
and
respond
as
he's
willing
to
host
this
booking,
and
this
property
is
available.
E
N
H
A
N
Is
correct
and
majority
of
online
booking
booking
you
know
online
booking
platforms
want
to
make
the
response
quick,
so
they
provide
a
host
of
options
when
an
inquiry
comes
in.
You
have
the
ability
to
ask
additional
questions.
As
in
a
customized
note,
you
have
the
ability
to
respond
to
it.
It
is
available
to
book
such
as
in
this
case,
so
we
saw
or
you
have,
the
ability
to
deny
the
booking
for
whatever
reason
that
you
may
have.
So
it
is
a
general
practice
within
online
booking
agencies
to
be
able
to
this.
N
A
Thank
you
any
further
questions
from
the
board
for
the
city
at
this
time,
we'll
turn
to
the
homeowners
or
either
of
the
homeowners
present.
Yes,
sir,
please
approach
the
podium.
You
please
state
your
full
name
and
then,
when
you're
ready
to
proceed,
you'll
have
ten
minutes
to
present
evidence,
support
Jamie.
P
All
I
can
say
right
now
is
we're
planning
on
selling
it
next
month.
My
wife
is
quite
ill
and
we
just
found
that
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
so
it's
been
a
mess
and
I
apologize
for
I,
don't
break
the
law
anyway,
I'm
the
worship
leader
at
my
church,
but
this
is
where
we're
at
one
thing
that
Mike
pinned
the
agent
who
sold
me.
The
home
he's
I
had
to
pay
a
fee
to
get
here.
He's
sending
me
that
feedback,
if
if
this
becomes
a
5,000
dollar
bill,
they're
gonna
pay,
that
is
it.
G
P
H
P
Know
they're
also
on
your
website.
There
was
a
it
says
about
a
courtesy
letter.
I
never
received
the
courtesy
letter.
I
just
received
the
citation
I
mean
a
phone
call.
What
it
done
like
I
said:
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
a
lawbreaker
I
would
happily
mine,
because
I
think
you
read
the
dates.
The
things
where
the
22nd
it
was
updated.
I
got
the
notice
on
the
23rd.
It
was
off
the
site.
E
Just
for
the
edification
of
the
appellant,
who
seems
like
a
great
guy,
the
first
regulation
that
was
adopted
by
the
city
with
respect
to
vacation
rental
was
that
courtesy
notices
were
not
going
to
be
issued.
So,
okay,
there
may
be
courtesy
notices
referenced
on
the
city's
website,
but
not
with
respect
to
vacation
rental
got
it.
So
that's
not
something
I.
A
H
I
think
I'm
comment
I
would
make.
Is
that
from
my
hearing
today
the
evidence?
It
seems
to
me
that
the
ordinance
is
having
some
effect
because
doesn't
seem
like
there's
any
evidence
that
any
rental
short-term
rentals
took
place
in
any
of
the
hearings
today,
I
mean
some
in
the
past.
We've
had
examples
of
homeowners
who
have
actually
rented
for
short
term
periods
of
time
several
times
and
and
were
eventually
cited
because
they
didn't
have
a
permit,
but
in
this
case
the
homeowners
that
are
here
once
they
found
out,
they
pulled
their
advertisements.
H
There
were
actually
no
bookings.
There
are
actually
all
in
violation
of
the
advertisement
aspect
of
the
ordinance,
which
is
seems
to
have
a
broader
reach,
but
from
what
I'm
hearing
today,
there's
less
examples
of
actual
short-term
rentals
taking
place,
and
now
our
violators
people
are
being
brought
before
the
hearing
on
advertising
basis.
It's
interesting
to
note
Oh
our.
A
A
Him
with
that,
we'll
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
six
approval
of
the
minutes
from
a
special
meeting
of
the
board
on
February,
8th
2018,
I
I
was
not
present
and
I.
Also
when
reviewing
the
minutes,
they
didn't
make
entirely
sense
to
me
because
the
numerical
organization
of
the
minutes
appeared
to
be
in
error.
So
I'm
gonna
turn
this
agenda
item
over
to
one
of
the
board
members
who
was
actually
present
at
the
last
hearing.
B
E
A
H
Rules
of
procedure-
and
she
referenced
section,
seven
point:
seven,
which
is
tigh
votes
and
and
the
rules
as
adopted
on
July
17
2017,
do
have
a
provision
under
seven
point:
seven
of
the
Administrative
Appeals
board's
rules
of
procedure
regarding
the
procedure
that
to
occur
in
Thai
votes,
so
I
would
ask
that
we
attend
eyes
a
discussion
regarding
that
rule
and
whether
or
not
we
proceeded
in
accordance
with
the
rule
on
July,
17th,
October,
27th
and
November.
13Th
I
think
are
the
dates
that
she
indicated
city.
E
Clerk
and
I
conferred
after
Ms
an
or
made
her
comment
and
I
concur.
It
appears
that
certain
votes
based
on
her
comments
and
I
have
no
reason
to
distrust.
Her
comments
may
have
taken
place
in
violation
of
this
rule
of
procedure.
Staff
will
bring
forward
a
recommendation
with
respect
to
the
votes
in
question.
All
right,
I
was
I
was
confused
because
I
thought
she
was
referencing.
Our
ordinances,
our
Palm
Springs
Municipal,
Code,
there's
nothing
covering
that
issue
in
there.
Mr.
E
A
A
Would
it
I
think
it
would
make
sense
for
the
city
to
notify
us,
rather
than
simply
posting
on
a
website
or
some
place
where
we
would
have
to
affirmatively
find
that
that
relevant
material?
So
I
was
asking
for
a
commitment
from
the
city
to
to
notify
us
that
there
any
changes
supplements
amendments
to
the
substantive
materials
that
we
need
to
preside
over
these
hearings.
I.
E
B
Just
based
on
our
experience
so
far
rely
on
the
staff
report
for
each
individual
appeal
to
a
prize
us
of
whatever
the
substantive
provisions
of
any
ordinance
or
regulations
that
are
relevant
to
that
appeal,
and
that's
always
just
been
my
my
guidance
and
I
appreciate
that
and
assume
that
that
will
continue
in
the
future
and
if
anything,
changes
or
is
added.
That's
how
all
that's
how
I'll
know
about
it.
E
Well,
good
example
would
be
when
board
member
kwrona
and
ER
came
in
or
excuse
me
when
chairman
Reed
came
in.
He
inquired
whether
we
had
any
new
regulations.
I
know
because
I
just
signed
one
that
we
do,
but
it
did
not
pertain
in
any
way
to
any
of
the
cases
that
were
before
you
today,
so
it
didn't
make
its
way
into
the
yellow
binder
yet,
but
yeah
we're
very.
We
try
to
be
anyway
dutiful
about
bringing
any
development
that
could
relate
to
any
case
before
une
appeal.
E
C
A
Also
know
for
the
City
Clerk's
office
that
at
least
this
time
around
the
the
electronic
version
of
the
agenda
and
the
materials
did
not
include
the
filings
by
the
petitioners
I
caught
that
on
Saturday.
As
about
to
prepare
for
the
hearing
and
had
to
run
in
this
morning,
grab
the
binder
prep
this
afternoon.
We're
hearing
so
I
would
appreciate
if
we
could
ensure
that
for
future
meetings
that
when
the
agenda
goes
up,
the
petitioners
filings
are
included
electronically.
A
A
E
Reports
for
members
of
the
board
and
for
any
members
of
the
public
still
present
there
is
a
vacation
rental
initiative,
that's
qualified
for
the
ballot,
this
June
5th,
so
the
voters
here
in
the
city
will
have
something
to
say
about
the
future
of
vacation
rental
in
the
city
of
Palm.
Springs
matters
been
subject
of
considerable
discussion
at
the
City
Council
level,
and
certainly
the
minutes
of
those
proceedings
and
the
video
of
those
proceedings.
I
daresay,
are
well
available
and
easy
to
access
on
our
website.
E
If
board
members
are
curious,
they
can
certainly
follow
up
about
that.
The
agenda
reports
are
also
available
online
in
relation
to
that
and
I
and
I
make
those
comments
only
insofar
as
the
ordinance
itself
is
something
that
we
deal
with
pretty
extensively
here
and
to
the
extent
that
you're
interested
it's
out
there
for
you
as
information
for
your
background
and
and
your
perusal
from
our
vantage
point,
the
issues
at
stake
don't
relate
to
the
matters
that
we're
bringing
you,
but
certainly
by
way
of
background.
As
far
as
the
ordinance
they
would.
A
E
E
There
are,
there
are
quite
a
few
and
but
for
the
fact
that
there's
an
initiative
going
on
the
ballot
in
June,
we
probably
would
have
already
advanced
those
changes
to
the
ordinance
but
I
suspect,
and
ultimately
it's
the
subcommittee
that
makes
these
decisions,
not
not
the
city
attorney
or
city
prosecutor,
I
suspect
that
those
changes
will
be
forthcoming
after
the
election.
Presuming
that
the
election
goes
one
way
or
the
other.
Obviously,
the
revision
of
the
ordinance
will
have
will
will
be
subject
to
some
significant
impact,
depending
on
the
outcome.