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From YouTube: Library Board of Trustees | Mar 1 2023
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Regular meeting of the City of Palm Springs Library Board of Trustees, held Wednesday, March 1st 2023
B
A
Garner
is
out
Al
Jones
here,
Ed
McBride
present
David,
nor
guy
here
Welcome
to
our
first
in-person
meeting
in
three
years.
We
made
it.
C
B
B
B
Okay,
item
number
Roman:
numeral:
four
is
the
consent
agenda.
You
have
a
motion,
please
a
second
second.
Thank
you.
Any
discussion
questions
all
in
favor,
aye
opposed.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Bye,
administrative
reports.
5A
is
friends
of
the
Palm
Springs
Public
Library
Julie.
Will
you
speak
to
that?
Be.
E
Happy
too,
thank
you,
the
friends
of
the
Palm
Springs
Library
at
modernism
event
home
tour
last
Friday,
whether
they
had
no
rain.
They
sold
over
100
tickets
now
so
some
books
and
merchandise.
So
that
was
a
good
fundraiser
for
them
yeah,
and
they
do
that
annually.
E
They
also
have
a
book
sale
coming
up
in
March
on
March
24th,
which
is
a
Friday
it's
members
only
day.
So,
if
you're
a
member
of
the
friends
you
can
come
to
the
first
pick
of
the
books
on
Saturday,
it's
open
to
the
public
on
Saturday
March
25th
and
on
Sunday
March
26th.
It
is
bad
day,
so
you
have
a
bag
and
you
fill
it
up
with
as
many
pizzas
as
possible
and
pay
one
low
price.
E
So
if
you
aren't
a
member
already,
please
go
to
the
Friends
of
the
life
friends
on
the
Palm,
Springs
library.org
and
join
and
come
out
to
the
book
sale.
That
is.
Are
you
building
across
the
parking
lot
from
the
main
Library
and
then
their
annual
meeting
is
scheduled
in
April
and
info
is
to
come.
E
So
again,
if
you
aren't
a
member
join
so
that
you
can
come
to
the
annual
meeting,
we
always
have
great
speakers
and
fun
things
to
share,
so
that
is
it
for
the
friends
any
questions,
yeah
Book
Sales
starts
at
what
time
I
believe
it's
10
A.M.
E
They
I
don't
have
that
yet
it's
going
to
be
in
April
and
they
will
announce
it
with
their
guest
speaker.
They.
B
B
You
great
thank
you
very
much
any
other
questions
for
Julie
the
hearing.
None
will
go
to
a
Roman
numeral
5B
Foundation
David.
F
Yeah,
just
real
quick
We
are
continuing
to
recruit
new
board
members,
as
you
guys
saw
after
our
after
our
mou
meeting
that
there
was
a
ton
of
them.
We
are
participating
in
the
1ps
family
picnic,
we're
participating
in
the
library's
family
fun
day
and
we
have
our
fundraising
event
coming
up
on
Sunday
April
1st
called
Brunch
on
the
page,
we're
featuring
two
local
offers,
authors
that
will
speak
about
their
upcoming
books.
It's
at
a
private
home
in
Palm,
Springs
and
tickets
are
available
for
I,
think
they're
125.
A
I
have
well,
let's
see
two
things
to
report,
so
we
had
a
really
great
outcome
at
City
Council
on
February
21st.
They
approved
unanimously
the
RFQ
process,
and
so
our
procurement
Department's
going
to
be
working
on
that
this
week
and
next
week
to
get
that
out
and
get
it
issued.
So
very
happy
all
great.
Thank
you
to
everyone
who
gave
public
comment
and
wrote
letters.
It
was
really
a
nice
show
of
support
and
I
I
really
do
believe
it
made
a
difference.
A
So
that
was
one
great
thing,
and
the
next
great
thing
is
that
the
friends
of
the
library
in
Palm
Springs
speaks
is
I'm,
bringing
Al
Franken
to
Palm
Springs
and
he's
going
to
be
a
host
on
The
Daily
Show
the
week
of
March
20th.
And
then
this
is
the
next
week.
So
tickets
are
available,
Palm,
springspeaks.org
or
through
Eventbrite.
You
can
search
for
Al,
Franken
and
they're
going
quickly
so
get
your
tickets
and
Julie
has
some
of.
E
A
Is
Friday
March,
31st,
sorry,
I
didn't
really
think
I
said.
A
At
Palm
Springs
High
School
at
the
Richard
Center,
okay,
yeah.
A
Auditorium
but
we're
about
half
out
so
we're
doing
great
on
ticket
sales,
so
I'm
very
happy
and
100
of
the
proceeds
benefits
friends
at
the
Palm
Springs
Library.
A
Yeah,
so
it's
a
good
fundraiser
good
good
for
a
good
program
for
us
and
we
hope
to
be
announcing
another
author
coming
up
soon
for
May
some
fingers
crossed
on
that
one
and
then
we'll
be
working
on
season.
Five.
A
C
Questions
Virginia
I
have
one
about
the
series
overall.
Ideally,
what
would
be
the
number
of
events
in
the
series
if,
if
the
year
were
a
typical
year,
we.
A
A
We
like
to
do
the
programs
January
February
March
when
High
season
is
here
and
all
the
activity
visitors
are
in
town
so
and
then
we
typically
do
something
in
the
fall
so
yeah
we
just
we.
We
thought
we'll
start
with
just
one.
This
season
roll
it
out,
get
going
again
check
check
the
temperature
of
the
community
and
see
if
people
want
to
come
back
out,
and
so
so
far
so.
C
D
F
D
On
page,
one
you'll
find
kind
of
the
the
standards
kind
of
reporting.
There's
nothing
unusual,
nothing
out
of
black
or
unusual,
so
kind.
E
C
A
B
Thank
you
any
other
questions
or
okay:
let's
go
to
Roman
numerals,
seven
discussions
and
actions.
7A
is
a
memorandum
of
understanding
with
the
Palm
Springs
Library
Foundation.
Hopefully,
everyone's
had
a
chance
to
review
it
or
purpose
of
discussion
can
I
have
a
motion.
C
B
G
Two
questions
right
so
my
first
question
my
apologies
for
not
being
able
to
make
the
meeting
when
you
guys
met
with
a
City
attorney,
but
I.
The
last
of
this
I
saw
was
a
marked
up
copy
that
I
guess
you
guys
went
through
so
do
you
feel
like
everything
that
was
on
there
was
resolved?
Is
there
any
issues
that
are
concern
of
you?
After
that
meeting
with
the
city
I.
B
Think
we've
covered
every
item
that
was
on
our
list
I'm,
assuming
that
on
page
19,
Item
B
might
be
up
for
further
discussion
and
the
other
one
was
that
was.
It
was.
A
There
anything
else
on
Item
B,
the
city
attorneys
felt
that
it
was
just
simpler
to
roll
it
into
the
document
itself,
rather
than
have
an
an
addendum
or
exhibit
so.
The
donation
chart
was
just
rolled
into
the
text
and
some
of
the
questions
that
had
come
up
from
the
foundation
and
others,
the
City
attorney
one.
A
There
were
a
few
little
tweaks
about
wanting
to
make
sure
that
the
city
council
was
was
in
the
driver's
seat,
essentially
on
some
of
the
items
like
use,
of
logos
and
use
of
the
rights
to
do
certain
things.
So
the
foundation
and
you
you
all-
can
I
think
that
they
might
want
to
chime
in
too,
but
ask
or
ask
some
questions,
but
there
were
some
some
concerns
about
control
as
far
as
the
city's
Viewpoint.
So
it's
not
that
yeah.
B
A
And
a
document
doesn't
have
to
die,
you
know
be
forever
and
ever
it
could
always
get
a
you
know.
You
can
always
say:
oh,
let's
revise
this
or
it's
not
working
or
we
forgot
something
or.
A
What
they
did
was
they
did
some
research
of
other
Library
foundations
and
and
naming
rights
and
and
kind
of
just
did
some
averages.
Oh
the
city
attorneys.
Thank
you.
G
B
They
didn't
propose
any
changes
on
being
yeah,
it's
but
I'm
thinking
that
we're
we're
not
never,
definitely
not
locking
ourselves
into
the
future.
Here
you
can
always
be
amended
sure.
C
Yeah
I
appreciate
the
work
done
since
the
last
meeting
on
this
I
I
haven't
looked
at
it
as
carefully
as
I
might,
but
it
seems
that
we
covered
everything
we
talked
about
last
month.
B
Okay,
you're
nothing
more
from
the
trustees
at
this
time.
David
Bill
and
do
you
have
any
comments
if
you
had
an
opportunity
to
look
at
the
document.
F
We
have,
and
we
do
have
a
couple
of
things
we'd
like
to
talk
about.
F
There
are
a
couple
of
like
four
many
years:
I,
don't
know
if
you
guys
noticed
that,
but
that's
neither
here
nor
there,
but
but
the
first
thing
I
I,
just
like
to
bring
up,
is
in
one
C
little
I,
which
is
on
the
second
page
finances
yep.
It
says
construction
operation
and
then
ongoing
maintenance
in
the
second
line
there.
F
And
then,
if
you
go
down
to
d,
I
it
says
that
the
city
is
responsible
for
the
maintenance
and
repair
blah
blah
blah
and
then
on
crap
it's
in
there
it's
in
there
again
the
ongoing
maintenance
I
would
just
like
to
to
have
that
language
removed.
The
the
foundation
will
not
be
responsible
for
any
ongoing
maintenance
of
the
library.
It's
it's
in
on
Page
Six.
B
Come
up
with
can
be
used
for
those
type
of
things.
It's
not
like.
You
have
to
maintain.
It's,
not
your
responsibility
to
maintain
it,
but
that's
the
direction
that
your
funds
would
go
to.
A
C
A
B
A
Can
I
comment
on
one's
on
two,
the
one
c
I
at
the
beginning,
where
it
talks
about
finances?
That's
just
saying
that
any
of
the
funds
that
you
raised
can
be
used
for
these
things:
fund
construction,
operation,
ongoing
maintenance
and
Improvement
of
the
Palm
Springs
Public
Library
System
right.
So
that's
the
money
that
you
raise
can
go
for.
A
F
Okay,
let's
forget
about
number
six,
because
you're
right,
you're
right,
but
then
they're
conflicting
with
with
each
other
and
I,
don't
believe
that
the
foundation
exists
to
provide
funds
to
maintain
that
building
unless
I'm
wrong.
But
you
know
if
the
air
conditioner
breaks
or
the
roof
leaks,
isn't
that
the
responsibility
of
the
city?
Yes,.
F
B
G
A
D
A
No,
the
friends
pay
for
the
maintenance
of
the
koi
Bond,
so
they
they
provide
maintenance
and
ongoing
maintenance
of
something
at
the
library.
G
G
The
same
thing
would
apply
to
the
foundation
that
if
we,
if
Genie
or
the
city,
came
and
said
we'd
like
for
you
to
provide
the
maintenance
of
this
wall
of
plaques
I'm
using
your
example,
the
foundation
board
could
agree
that
that's
what
their
money
could
be
used
for,
or
they
could
say,
we
don't
think
we
want
to
use
that
money.
For
that
I
mean
it's
not
like
that
that
they
have
to
pay
for
it.
They
would
be
able
to
vote
and
decide
if
they
want
to
I.
A
B
You
know
what
I
I
can't
believe
I'm
reading
this,
the
only
way
the
attorneys
are
and
not
the
way
everybody
else
is.
This
is
any
funds
they
generate
or
restricted
to
these
areas.
I
agree
with
you,
I.
B
F
H
Yeah
and
and
I
and
I
think
it
makes
our
job
a
little
bit
easier
with
potential
donors
during
the
renovation
Capital
raising
campaign.
If
that
word,
ongoing
maintenance
or
those
two
words
were
struck
there,
we
we
have
no
problems.
You
know
construction
operation,
Improvement
of
the
library
system,
all
of
those
kinds
of
things,
but
we
do
think
that
the
the
maintenance
of
of
the
facility
is
is
also
a
city
responsibility.
G
But
by
definition,
if
you
guys
go
ahead
and
raise
money
for
a
endowment,
that
is
maintenance,
your
main
you're
helping
us
maintain
something
long-term
in
a
program.
So
I
think
you
need
to
think
about
how
you
want
this
to
be
said,
are
you
objecting
to
the
maintenance
of
a
physical
building
or
an
object
or
a
wall
or
or
what?
What
are
you
saying
in
terms
of
you?
Don't
want
to
give
money
to
maintain
something
I
think
that
I,
but
you
just
need
to
clarify
what
that
means
by
ongoing
maintenance.
G
That's
a
very
large
catch-all
in
my
mind.
You
know,
ongoing
maintenance
could
be
yeah.
Like
Genie
said
we
want
you
guys
to
replace
a
plaque
you
put
up
on
the
wall
because
it's
falling
off
and
it's
broken
I,
don't
think
we're
asking
you
to
buy
an
air
conditioning
system
for
the
building.
You
know
so
I
think
it's
the
maintenance
of
anything
you
funded,
but
you
need
to
clarify
it.
F
D
C
Care
of
the
issue
I'm
not
opposed
to
your
suggestion
now,
I
think
that's
a
good
one.
I'd
just
like
to
go
back
a
step
and
Echo
what
bill
was
saying
a
moment
ago
about
the
fundraising
aspect
in
in
my
own
experience,
it's
always
tougher
to
raise
money
for
what
people
consider
routine
maintenance
than
it
is
for
something
new
and
shiny
and
flashy
and
I
I.
C
H
C
D
A
Don't
know
who
did
not
do
here
wait
a
point
I
think
maybe
Craig
has
a
point,
though,
that
this
is.
This
is
saying
any
funds
that
you
raise
are
for
the
library
not
for
the
police
department,
the
fire
department,
any
other
departments
within
the
city.
So
maybe
this
paragraph
is
saying
the
funds
that
you
raise
are
for
the
library
and
then
they
listed
some
examples,
but.
D
But
but
they
listed
it
in
such
a
way
by
the
use
of
the
word.
Shell
is
what
changes
the
meaning
of
that
whole
sentence.
But
when
you,
when
you
put
shell
in
the
third
person,
it.
D
E
F
D
B
G
F
B
H
Ahead,
there
was
one
format
issue,
that's
just
a
minor
detail.
In
one
c,
I
I
it
refers
to
hang
on
a
second
one.
E
H
Refers
to
the
2C
I've
I.
G
H
So
that
that's
just
a
net
sorry
about
that
yeah.
D
H
I
believe
it
refers
to
three:
it
just
got
misnumbered
and
thank
you
for
I
should
have
said
right
at
the
outset.
I
appreciate
all
of
the
the
listening
that
was
done
and
and
the
modifications
that
were
done
to
this
document
based
on
our
previous
meetings.
It
it
was
great
to
go
through
it,
make.
H
On
2B
III,
these
are
the
obligations
of
the
of
the
foundation
and
I,
see
where
the
the
city
put
in.
H
If
we
wanted
to
have
the
use
of
our
logo
and
and
likeness,
we
just
wanted
to
know,
and
so
they
put
in
something
for
notification
to
the
president
of
the
foundation
and
then
a
corollary
to
that
would
be.
We
would
need
to
let
the
city
know
how
we
wanted
to
use
the
the
city,
logo
and
the
library,
logo
and
those
kinds
of
things.
So
we
we
see
that
in
that
was
in
a
I'm,
sorry
that
was
an
a
down
on
2B
III.
H
There
is
a
a
series
of
reporting
requirements
which
you
know
we're
going
to
be
doing
internally,
pretty
much
on
our
own.
So
sharing
those
with
you
I
think,
would
be
a
good
thing.
The
last
sentence,
the
foundation,
shall
provide
any
Financial
records
requested
by
the
city
within
30
days.
Following
such
requests,
do
we
have
any
idea
what
the
city
would
you
know
what's
behind
that?
What's
the
intent
of
that
particular
request.
F
H
We,
you
know,
obviously
we're
going
to
be
transparent
and
we're
going
to
do
everything
to
make
sure
everybody
knows
how
things
are
going
and
and
those
kinds
of
things
we're
just
curious
to
know
what
kinds
of
things
that
would
be,
and
so
we.
H
Well,
what
what
they
might
ask
for,
so
we
might
be
you
know
if
we
have
a
system
that
we
put
into
place,
you
know
what
do
we
need
to
to
provide?
You
know
honor,
it's
just
for
a
lot,
a
lot
of
it's
for
planning
purposes,
really
right.
B
D
G
Come
to
you
know,
there's
nothing
to
say
that
someone,
a
member
of
the
pulpit,
could
ask
the
city
where
this
money
came
from
and
ask
questions
as
well
as
Freedom
of
Information
Act.
Okay,
you
know
so
I
think
that
but
I
think
it's
only
fair
to
say
some
examples
of
so
that
you
can
track
the
information
that
potentially
I
might
ask
right.
Yeah.
H
Thank
you
and
then
we've
talked
about
three
B.
With
the
chart
the
chart
naming
coming
into
the
document.
We
don't
have
any
problems
with
that.
It's
just
what
is?
How
does
the
first
5000
work,
the.
F
H
F
H
Rights
term
of
zero
years,
what.
F
D
A
So
this
would
be
something
that
I,
just
I
would
oversee
any
of
the
smaller
gifts
right
and
then
we
wouldn't
really
put
a
time
limit
on
those,
but
we
could,
if
you
really
want,
we
could
put
it
back.
It
was
originally
listed
as
a
year.
G
F
I'd
like
to
say
something
about
that
too
I
mean
we
wish.
This
I
do
believe
that
this
portion
of
this
document
should
be
fluid,
because
we
were
talking
earlier
bill
and
I
that
theoretically,
someone
could
give
a
four
thousand
dollar
gift
of
something
that
could
be
more
or
less
permanent
like
a
door.
You
know
or
something
special
that
may
end
up
lasting
more
than
a
year,
so
it
it
may
have
to
be
a
little
more
fluid
than
that.
A
D
Does
that
mean
so
I
give
a
five
thousand
dollar
five
thousand
one
dollar
gift
they
could
be
there
forever
could
be.
It
could
I.
D
But
is
that
just
from
inattention,
not
yours,
but
is
it
permit
attention
or
or
is
it
from
deliberate
Act?
You
know
it
just
seems
to
me:
others
are
going
to
say
you
know
five
years
and
at
the
end
of
five
years,
if
you
want
to
renew
it,
I
want
another
five
thousand
one
dollar
or
whichever,
whichever
level
you
want,
this
doesn't
go
into
perpetuity
right.
Just
simply
because
we're
not
going
to
go
around
and
take
down
plaques,
we
should
be
actually
I.
Think
Franklin.
Well,
some.
B
Of
them
are,
would
be
book,
blacks
and
I.
Don't
know
if
we
have
the
Manpower
that.
A
A
A
E
A
D
I
would
argue
would
be
maximum,
not
minimum
subject
to
Renewal.
E
A
Anything
over
a
hundred
thousand
would
be
a
20-year
term,
so
if
they
gave
30
million
and
it's
to
protect
the
donor's
name
and
their
gift.
E
D
Trust
me
I,
do
understand.
When
I
gave
the
250
000
to
design
AIDS
project
I
made
it
very
clear
that
this
had
to
continue
after
I
died
for
a
certain
number
of
years.
Absolutely
yeah
I
know
Peggy
Craven.
She
did
the
same
thing
with
Cod
about
two
years
before
she
died,
so
Donna
Peggy,
Craven,
Student
Center.
She
went
after
Joel
Kinnaman
and
said
and
her
attorney
to
make
sure
that
it
stayed
on
for
a
certain
amount
of
time
because
they
were
squirrely
about
it.
So
I
mean
it.
It
can
cause
some
issues.
D
A
D
D
So,
if
I'm
going
to
give
you
a
hundred
thousand,
you
know
for
or
not
go
to
a
smaller
Europe
I'm
going
to
give
you
something
that
allows
me
five
years
why
shouldn't
I
be
ex?
Why
should
I
expect
to
go
beyond
five
years
without
a
further
contribution?
Is
really
the
question?
It's
a
fundraising
tool:
I,
don't
want
to
belabor.
This
I
mean
I'm,
just
one
voice,
but
I
see
this
is
fundraising
and
should
not
be
in
perpetuity.
Well.
G
But
I
think
this
is
guidelines
to
the
foundation.
The
foundation
could
find
that
donor
who's
going
to
give
us
20
million
dollars
and
in
there,
as
you
know,
you've
done
this
yourself
in
the
agreement
that
they
that
owner
establishes
with
the
foundation
they
may
stipulate
how
long
they
want
the
naming
rights
to
be
the
city
would
approve
that
or
say
no
right
so
that
they
can
brought
a
20
million
dollar
donation
that
they
wanted
to
be
on
there.
For
the
for
the
duration
of
the
building
line
at
the
city
might
say
sure,
and.
D
B
A
G
A
Right
so
there
there
will
be
donor
agreements
with
the
foundation
and
then
all
of
that
will
go
to
council.
D
And
then
you're
just
telling
me,
the
council
has
to
make
the
decision
to
accept
the
money
for
that
naming
right,
but
it
doesn't
say
anything
about
what
happens
when
you
hit
the
Mac
this
this
number
of
years,
whether
they're
minimum
or
maximum
I'm
I'm,
just
saying
it's
just
it
moves
kind
of
an
Open
Door,
so
the
city
manager
has
the
authority
to
prove
a
disapprove
in
the
up
to
a
hundred
thousand
city
canceled
after
100
100
000..
But
do
they
in
that
approval
process
said
the
length
the
term
good?
D
H
What
about
what
about
some
phraseology
that
said,
exceptions
or
deviations
by
mutual
agreement
agreement?
H
You
know
where
we
could
evaluate
a
donation,
a
naming
rights
donation
of
you
know
some
sizable
amount
on
its
merits
and
then
make
an
adjustment.
If
all
the
parties
agreed.
B
G
Exactly
I
found
a
place,
I
would
suggest
if
you
look
at
3D,
where
it
says
City's
prior
approval
and
I'm,
not
portraying
someone
that
means,
but
here
it
says
the
city
shall
retain
all
control
over
location,
size,
type,
amount
of
all
naming
rights,
opportunities,
income
donation
prior
to
issuing
any
naming
rights
opportunity.
The
foundation
shall
Tendencies
written
approval
of
the
naming
rights,
including
as
applicable.
We
could
insert
here
the
the
time
of
you
know.
G
Whatever
we
refer
to,
let
me
write's
term
the
proposed
location
that
kind
of
gives
that
kind
of
adds
the
the
foundation
could
come
to
the
city
and
say
we
have
a
20
million
dollar
opportunity.
They
want
it
for
20
years
and
all
these
things
are
answered
in
that
donations.
They're
clearly
saying
they
want
that
to
approve
it
right.
So
I
think
that
that
this
up
this
box
to
me
is
guidelines.
It's
not
it's,
not
the
necessarily
the
what
you
would
go
to,
because
someone
may
ask
for
30
years.
C
A
Okay,
so
Julie
made
a
great
suggestion
too,
on
the
next
page
at
the
top,
where
it
talks
about
the
the
authorities
after
each
of
those
I
double
I,
triple
I
like
the
first
one
up
to
25
000
and
set
length
of
term.
C
D
H
A
Forgot
to
put
that
in
or
thought
realized
that
there
was
some
unanswered
questions
and
and
added
some
some
information
here.
You
remember
that
Craig
yeah.
H
I
I
don't
know
if
this
tends
to
tie
our
hands
or
not
because
well,
there's
some
specifics
here.
The
foundation
would
give
the
city
the
proceeds
from
a
naming
rights
opportunity
within
30
days
of
receipt.
H
What
what?
Why
would
that
be
any
different
than
other
funds
I?
You
know
I,
just
I,
guess
I'm,
just
curious
to
know
where
this
is
coming
from
and
what
the
intent
was
I.
A
Remember
this
one:
there
there
was
a
question
that
had
come
up
when
we
had
our
little
subcommittee
meeting
with
the
friends
and
the
foundation,
and
someone
said
well
who
gets
the
money
when
a
donor
gives
money
for
a
Navy
right?
Does
it
stay
with
the
non-profit
and
then
they
get
to
use
it?
However,
they
want,
and
then
they
just
say:
okay,
then,
let's
name
that
and
we
get
the
20
million.
A
This
says
no.
The
20
million
reason
that,
as
an
example,
is
going
to
go
to
the
city
and
they
put
a
time
limit
on
it
because
they
didn't
want
it
to
be
pledged
and
oh
well,
we'll
get
to
it.
Oh
we'll
that's
coming,
and
then
it
never
comes.
So
they
wanted
to
put
a
time
limit
to
make
sure
that,
in
a
timely
manner
that
the
pledge
actually
does
come
to
the
city
to
be
used
for
that
intent.
So.
D
I
have
a
question,
though:
where
does
the
money
who
the
money
is
specified
for
a
certain
can
only
be
spent
on
the
library
to
use
the
generic
term?
Is
that
correct,
that's
correct,
so
the
city
can't
use
it
for
anything
else.
Correct
all
right,
I
just
want
to
be
sure
their
hands
are
coming.
That's
what.
D
We
were
speaking
with
okay,
because
I'm
dealing
with
another
commission
and
money
that
was
specifically
allocated
to
do
certain
things.
The
city's
now
taught
them
to
use
for
maintenance,
various
projects,
which
was
not
what
the
intent
was
for
the
money
that
was
in
that
budget
and
they're
fighting
it.
This
will
be
restricted.
All
right,
independent,
very
dominant
I
want
to
be
sure
it's
restricted.
G
B
Once
they
solve
the
one
earlier,
then
it'll
apply
here
right:
okay,
I'll
Circle!
It
got
that.
Thank
you
all
right.
F
H
Mean
listen,
you
know
being
tying
I
I,
don't
know,
maybe
that
maybe
this
will
come
out
and
be
much
easier
than
I
think
it
is,
but
tying
a
certain
expense
to
a
name
donation
and
then
wanting
to
retain
some
of
that,
because
we
used
it
to
to
raise
funds
and
then
accounting
for
that
for
every
gift
using
a
naming,
I,
don't
know
it
just
seems
a
little
onerous
to
to
to
me.
H
I,
don't
know
what
David,
how
David
feels
about
it,
but
I
mean
we
might
be
able
to
work
this
out.
I
I,
just
I.
H
We
know
well,
for
example,
in
other
sections.
Previously
we
know
all
the
money
we
raise
has
to
go
to
the
city.
We've
talked
about
that
this
evening,
so
and-
and
we
know
that
the
naming
rights
have
to
be
approved
prior
to
accepting
the
money
from
the
person-
that's
donating
it,
and
so
when
we
get
this
money,
Our
obligation
is
to
provide
the
money
to
the
city
within
30
days
of
receipt.
H
So
the
you
know
I
just
I'm.
Just
this
came
came
at
us
from
left
field
and
I
guess
we
haven't
had
a
chance
to
digest
how
how
we're
going
to
do
this
and
whether
we
set
up
a
separate
fund,
fun,
fundraising,
expense
fund
as
a
sort
of
a
catch-all.
H
H
You
know
how
do
we
Direct
ly?
How
do
we
figure
out
if
there
were
expenses
that
need
to
be
taken
from
that
I?
Don't
know
we're
gonna.
That
kind
of
a
situation
will
have
to
have
a
agreement
with
the
donor.
I'm
sure
we're
going
to
have
a
a
a
donor
agreement
with
the
foundation
donor
type
of
an
agreement.
That's
going
to
be
in
compliance
and
in
accordance
with
these
terms,
but.
D
H
No
I,
you
know,
that's
why
I'm
saying
I'm
not
we
haven't
had
a
whole
lot
of
time
to
digest
how
we
would
get
get
the
job
done.
I
mean
if
I
were
the
donor.
I
would
say
make
sure
that
this
three
million
get
all
of
it
gets
over
to
what
I
wanted
to
do
and
I,
don't
think
we'd
say
no.
H
H
Me
as
a
donor,
yeah
yeah.
So
what
do
you
think
those
costs
would
be
just
ballpark,
the
Craig?
That's
the
I,
don't
know
I
mean
what's
customary
in
the
industry.
Is
that
15?
Is
it
20
of
what
of
what
not
profit
not
for
profit
foundations
raise
and
how
much
they
spend
to
raise
that
I?
Think
it's
somewhere
in
that
ballpark
Ed
may
know
more
about
that
than
than
certainly
than
I
do.
But
it's.
G
Don't
think
it's
going
to
be
like
for
everything,
but
you
know
if
you're
going
to,
for
example,
I
think
the
point
you
may
want
to
go
about
a
meeting
room
if
to
fund
a
meeting
room
for
20
years
is
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
that
might
just
the
city
might
say
it
also
includes
refreshing,
the
furniture
every
five
years
or
it
might.
There
might
be
lists
within
that
project
that
you
would
take
to
a
donor
and
say
your
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
going
to
do
this
for
this
room.
G
A
Would
also
like
to
add
that
in
typical
grants,
10
of
indirect
costs
are
allocated
for
Administration.
So
it
wouldn't
be
unheard
of
to
ask
for
10
of
of
a
gift
to
to
do
your
administrative
back.
G
H
I,
don't
know
what
that
would
be.
Do
you
yeah
Al,
when
you,
when
you
allocated
your
and
you
donated
your
money,
did,
did
you
work
out
anything
on
on
that
score
in
terms
of
overhead
or
expenses,
or
anything
like
that?
No,
no.
B
B
A
And
we're
kind
of
in
a
unique
situation
because
we're
trying
to
maybe
build
out
new
items,
new
facilities
and
then
refresh
or
create
new
spaces
in
in
our
existing
buildings.
So
in
this
case
we're
going
to
work
with
the
architect
designers
to
find
out
rough
costs
for
each
of
those.
H
A
D
F
D
Yeah
I,
agree
and
I
think
the
only
other
expectation
of
a
donor
are
two
things,
but
a
plaque
typically,
and
secondly,
to
always
have
that
name
attached
to
that
room
or
whatever
it
is.
So
when
you
put
it
in
your
whatever
written,
literature
or
anything
else,
carries
the
name.
That's
really
the
expectation
of
a
donor
yeah.
F
G
Don't
have
exceptions
I
mean
you
know,
someone
I,
say
yeah
the
I
remember
back
to
the
days
when
we
used
to
get
money
from
The
Gates
Foundation
right.
Sometimes
the
Gates
Foundation
would
plug
stuff
in
there
that
they
would
expect
you
to
do
long
term
because
they're
giving
you
the
money
right,
that
kind
of
stuff's
going
to
happen
from
foundations.
We're
not
talking
about
just
individuals
here,
we're
talking
about
foundations,
we're
talking
about
all
kinds
of
different
things.
So
there
could
be
some
requirements
that
you're
going
to
have
to
honor
to
take
the
money
right.
H
B
B
H
I
have
one
one
other
one
that
we've
chatted
about,
but
we
might
like
to
see
in
the
in
the
in
the
document
and
and-
and
that
is
we
still
do
believe-
that
there
should
be
a
centralized
coordinator
for
naming
rights
request
so
that
we're
not
colliding
with
one
another.
It's
not
that
you
know
we
we
need
to
have
you
know
yes
or
no,
or
you
can't
do
that,
and
these
guys
can
do
that.
H
It's
really,
you
know,
could
could
the
foundation
exist
and
part
of
their
responsibility
is
Fielding
opportunities
for
naming
rights
in
one
Central
repository,
so
that
that
there's
some
control
over
not
overselling
or
selling
something
similar
and
then
having
this
approval
process
to
go
through
with
the
city
and
presenting
it
in
in
the
best
light.
H
So
we
get
the
city
to
say
yes
in
most
cases,
so
if
we
could
put
just
some
language
in
there
that
says
that
the
parties
agree,
that
opportunities
come
to
the
foundation
for
centralized
record
keeping
or
something
to
that
effect.
So
we
don't
have
these
problems
down
the
road.
We
would
feel
more
comfortable
with
that
did.
G
And
I
think
you
need
to
expand
on
that,
because
that
paragraph
pretty
much
is
saying
that
you
guys
are
better
suited
to
do
this
sort
of
thing.
So
I
think
if
you
would
a
3A
and
if
it
doesn't
say
it
the
way,
if
you're
trying
to
say
that
nobody,
like
the
friends
or
the
trustees,
can
get
into
your
area
of
naming
rights
opportunities.
I
think
you
need
to
might
tighten
that
paragraph
up,
but
it's
all
right.
There
saying
that
you're
the
best
to
do
that.
Yeah.
H
E
B
The
other
thing
that
Genie
and
I
are
working
on
is
a
flow
chart.
That
marks
were
the
donations,
go
from
the
different
areas
that
it
could
come
into.
The
money
could
come
in
through
the
foundation.
It
could
come
in
through
the
friends.
It
could
come
through
the
library
itself.
B
H
H
My
last
one
is
easy:
it's
a
request,
it's
in
section
five
insurance
and
we
just
got
our
Outreach
from
our
our
broker
today
in
terms
of
what
kind
of
insurance
the
foundation
wants.
So
we've
got
to
get
this
resolved
before
June
anyway,
we
don't
know
we're
we're
Bound
by
this
document
to
have
the
coverage
and
types
as
required
by
the
city's
risk
manager,
but
we
don't
know
what
the
city
risk
manager
limits.
H
A
F
H
H
A
Right
so
we're
out
of
motion
in
a
second
but
I
think
we're
apparently
you're
gonna
description.
B
We
could
the
amendment
was
to
approve
this,
as
is.
D
A
D
D
Well,
I,
I
or
it
could
be
worded
in
sexual
subject
to
the
satisfactory
that
whole
issue
about
the
ongoing
maintenance
and
the
other
one
was
on
in
terms
of
what
was
the
other
one.
Under
what
cases
could
the
records
be
requested?
What's
what's
to
be
included
right?
Yes,
those
reception
I
did
I.
B
Yeah
the
motion
is
to
approve,
after
the
defining
the
either
the
mou
and
defining,
what's
required
by
the
city
or
the
finances.
B
But
defined
by
the
city
is
subject
to
when
they
want
to
express
the
records.
Yeah
all
right,
miss
that
one
requesting
the
records
which
item
was
that
bill.
C
Oh,
it's.
C
E
C
A
So
the
motion
now
is
to
to
submit
the
mou
back
to
the
city
attorney
with
and
authorize
the
chair
to
approve
any
changes.
D
G
A
Motion
is
to
submit
the
mou
to
City
attorney
writing
this
down
for
revisions.
D
D
D
B
Okay
and
then
the
other
one
was
the
a
decision
to
be
made
on
the
ongoing
maintenance
right.
That
appears
twice
in
a
stocking
effect,
so.
B
D
D
Or
commented
well,
there
was
a
question
about
ongoing
maintenance.
Actually,
the
word
should
be
continuing,
but
I
won't
argue
that,
but
it's
ongoing
maintenance-
and
that
was
the
question,
and
that
was
the
issue
of
that
sorry.
What
is
what
is?
What
does
it
mean
by.
A
G
I
I
think
you
need
to
give
yourself
a
caveat,
but
if
something
comes
back
then
it's
opposite
of
what
we've
been
discussing.
You
may
want
to
discuss
it
with
the
boarding.
Oh
of
course,
I.
Just
think
you
know
don't
make
it's
like
you're,
either
up
or
down.
Oh.
B
Decisions:
okay,
so
okay,
Bill
we're
attacking
two
of
the
items
that
you
brought
up.
We're
also
going
to
make
the
corrections
that
you
brought
up
that
were
clerical
or
oh
yeah,
we'll
fix
all
that
is
that
going
to
meet
your
needs.
H
B
B
C
B
B
You
all
right
now
this
should
be
simple.
It's
like
really
Item
B
set
new
meeting
date
for
April.
Yes
of
2023.
We
have
a
conflict
with
Passover.
A
A
Actually,
April
4th:
if
we
do
meet
on
April
4th,
we
will
be
in
the
city,
council
chambers,
so
you'll
get
to
sit
up
on
the
dice.
Oh
well,
it's.
B
B
B
A
Mine
I've
got
the
future
item
developed
below
chart
for
donations.
What
was
the
other
item
that
you?
Let's
say
we
have
two
items:
yeah.
B
G
Are
so
I
guess
this
may
be
a
question
to
your
reports
SUNY,
but
should
we
be
ready
to
support
any
future
actions
around
city
council
pushing
through
the
making
sure
we've
got
everything
we
wanted?
I
mean
I.
G
Remember
this,
this
body
asked
for
that
motion
to
go
before
city
council.
They
agreed
to
it
right
so
I
think
our
minutes
should
note
that
our
our
motion
was
accepted
by
city
council.
Not
just
they
you
know,
but
we
did
push
that,
but
I
think
is
there
anything
else,
because
you
know
we
need
advocacy.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
let
them
forget.
A
Think
we're
okay
right
now
everybody
just
watch
this
channel
for
more
information,
but
right
now
we're
going
to
do
the
RFQ
process
and
then
the
procurement
Department.
What.
A
A
H
Just
a
point
of
clarification
on
on
the
discussion
that
went
on
in
in
the
city
council,
one
of
the
city
council
members
started
to
summarize
the
amount
of
monies
that
has
been
approved
and
is
available
for
the
project
and
that
council
member
mentioned
additional
money
that
is
coming
from
measure
J.
H
Do
you
remember
that
Genie,
when
you
were
making
your
proposal
for
approval?
Well?
Okay,
so
specifically,
it
was
something
like
16
million
available
for
from
the
grants
and
another
10
million
available
from
measure
J.
A
H
A
No
we're
not
we're
not
set
in
stone
on
any
of
that.
Just
the
13
million
is
set
because
that's
Grant
funded
and
required,
but
that's
what
the
Architects
and
designers
are
going
to
find
out.
They're,
going
to
tell
us
how
much
everything
costs
and
give
us
a
grand
total
and
then
that's
when
we
look
to
our
funders
and
donors
and.
A
City
and
the
City,
of
course,
but
I
am
already
I'm
already
asking
and
asking
them
to
start
budgeting
money,
because
we
know
it's
going
to
cost
more
than
13.
our
requesting.
A
Yeah
so
I
I
haven't
I,
had
thrown
out
the
number
of
30
million,
because
Library
projects
that
I
saw
Library
journal
every
year
for
the
architectural
projects
and
they
tell
the
price
per
square
foot
and
they're
running
about
a
thousand
dollars
a
square
foot
and
we're
on
34
000
square
foot
building.
So
we're
looking
at
34
million
dollars
again
I.
D
A
I
think
that's
really.
Sadly,
it's
realistic.
It's
going
to
cost
as
much
to
build
to
renovate
as
it
would
to
build
a
new
building
so
well.
That's
also
still
part.
A
Off
the
table,
I
don't
think
that
I
don't
think
we're
at
a
point
where
we
would
scrap
the
building
and
I'd
wait
to
that
price
tag.
We'd.