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From YouTube: Planning Commission | May 25 2022
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The Palm Springs Planning Commission Meeting, held May 25th, 2022
B
A
Okay,
I'd
like
to
welcome
everybody
to
the
regular
planning
commission
meeting.
Will
you
call
the
role
please.
D
E
A
Okay,
terrific
can
we
have
a
report
on
the
posting
of
the
agenda.
Please.
B
A
Okay,
excellent
all
right:
this
is
the
time
that
we
set
aside
for
public
comments.
The
public
can
speak
to
us
on
any
issue
that
has
to
do
with
the
planning
commission.
This
would
also
be
the
time
for
the
public
to
comment
on
items
1a,
4a
and
4b.
B
We
do
have
one
member
of
the
public
who's
joined
us,
mr
duncan,
if
you
wish
to
speak
on
any
item,
that
would
be
the
appropriate
time.
E
Well,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
letting
us
attend
and
it's
an
interesting
way
of
doing
things.
You
know
we'll
we'll
just
let
the
staff
carry
the
meeting
and
any
comments
or
questions
you
have
for
us
that
we
need
to
answer
to
we'll
we'll
take
care
of
it.
Thank
you.
A
A
Okay,
let's
fire
right
into
it
for
the
consent
calendar.
We
only
have
one
item.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
will
second,
the
agenda
acceptance.
Okay,
thank
you.
I
will
also
be
removing
myself
from
the
vote
on
the
minutes.
As
I
was
not
present,
all
those
in
favor
aye,
any
opposed
okay
motion
carries
so
we
will
now
move
on
to
the
consent
calendar.
A
We
are
looking
for
a
motion
for
approval
of
the
minutes.
I
have
a
revision.
A
F
A
Okay,
I'm
now
looking
for.
A
Oh
okay,
so
there
was
a.
There
was
a
glitch
there.
Okay,
so
where
we
left
off
before
the
glitch
was
it
was
the
year
1998.
no
I'm
kidding,
but
I
was
looking
for
a
motion
on
the
minutes,
so
moved.
A
A
second
second,
okay,
all
those
in
favor
aye.
All
those
opposed
motion
carries
acknowledging
that
michael
hershbein
and
j.r
roberts
are
recused.
Based
on
our
absence
for
that
meeting.
A
Okay,
we
don't
really
have
a
public
hearing
tonight
or
any
unfinished
business,
so
we're
gonna
fire
right
into
new
business,
and
we
have
item
4a,
which
is
william
duncan
for
a
major
dell
development,
permit
application
to
construct
a
67
8500
square
foot
warehouse
facility
on
a
13
099
square
foot
undeveloped,
parcel
located
at
3581
west
del
sol
road.
This
is
case
number
3.4322.
G
G
Okay,
so
my
applicant
is
proposing
a
warehouse
facility
on
west
dilson
road.
The
highlighted
orange
box
on
the
screen
shows
exactly
where
the
proposed
warehouse
facility
is
going
to
be
located.
There
is
actually
an
existing
warehouse
facility,
identical
to
it
right
behind
it
exists
and
it
was
approved
a
few
years
ago.
So
this
is
the
proposed
location
of
the
facility
and
just
for
some
context.
This
is
exactly
what
it
looks
like.
Currently,
it's
going
to
be
in
between
two
existing
industrial
buildings.
G
As
you
can
see,
there's
already
an
established,
curb
and
gutter
and
sidewalk
and
still
needs
a
curb
cut,
though
that
that
needs
to
be
done.
The
proposed
building
is
six
thousand
seven
hundred
and
eighty
five
square
feet
in
size.
It
is
single
story.
G
It
is
permitted
in
the
m1
sp
by
right
for
the
college
park
specific
plan.
It
does
meet
parking
requirements,
they're
proposing
nine
parking
spaces,
one
accessory
dwelling
unit,
I'm
sorry
wow,
one
ada
parking
spot,
a
trash
enclosure
that
will
be
completely
screened
from
the
public
right
away.
G
The
floor
plan
shows
one
roll-up
door,
one
pedestrian
door
facing
the
east
and
then
exit
emergency
exit
door
facing
the
west.
G
Here's
just
two
of
the
elevations
the
front.
Excuse
me
the
front
elevations
in
the
front.
It
shows
the
garage
roll-up
door
with
the
glass,
the
tempered
glass
and
the
pedestrian
door.
The
height
of
the
building
is
24
feet,
10
inches,
and
that
includes
the
top
of
the
parapet.
A
A
D
Yes,
I
do
have
two
questions
for
staff,
and
these
are
regarding
findings,
where
we
have
identified
in
the
staff
report,
the
findings
that
need
to
be
made
and
we're
just
missing
some
of
the
information
in
order
to
make
him-
and
I
want
to
verify.
First
of
all,
it
is
about
the
massey.
D
Thank
you,
so
you
could
add
something
and
find
me
there
and
then
the
second
one
is
on
the
traffic
or
the
transportation
and
finding
that
the
highways
are
properly
designed
and
improved
to
carry
the
type
of
traffic.
That's
expected,
and
we
don't
talk
about
the
part
of
the
finding
we're
supposed
to
make
saying
that
the
site
the
design
continues,
the
city's
existing
grid
in
accordance
with
the
circulation
plan
of
the
general
element.
Is
it
fair
to
say
that
there
is
no
extension
road?
A
Going
once,
okay,
we'll
we'll
have
more
time
for
questions
and
comments
later.
This
is
the
time
that
the
applicant
has
10
minutes
to
speak
to
us
and
present
anything
further
that
you'd
like
to
present.
You
don't
have
to
use
that
10
minutes,
but
you
have
you
have
that
much
if
you'd
like
to
use
it.
E
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
talk,
although
I'd
rather
defer
to
the
staff
on
most
items
as
a
comment
and
what
we
were
trying
to
achieve
with
this
building
is
similar
to
what
was
built
next
door.
In
fact,
the
our
client
was
the
general
contractor
on
that
building.
He
appreciated
it
so
much
that
he
decided
to
build
it
all
over
again
and
flip
the
design
onto
this
lot.
E
He's
trying
to
make
some
budgetary
savings
as
a
result,
so
we're
look
we're
looking
forward
to
to
working
with
him
further
on
this
and
going
through
the
process,
and
I
appreciate
your
time
again
if
there
are
any
more
comments
that
need
to
be
directed.
I
appreciate
it
I'll
take
myself
off
the
air
for
now.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
sir,
and
thank
you
for
standing
by
for
questions.
Are
there
any
questions
for
the
applicant.
A
Okay,
so,
sir,
you
have
an
opportunity
to
rebut
or
make
any
final
comments
if
you
like,
before
we
take
action
on
this
item,.
A
Okay,
I'll
bring
it
I'll,
bring
it
back
to
the
planning
commission.
Do
you
have
comments
or
a
motion
for
this
item.
E
Thank
you
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve,
with
a
couple
of
recommendations
to
arc
that
they
pay
some
attention
to
the
facade.
It's
a
little
bit.
I
don't
know
it's
a
little
bit
needs
some
attention.
I
think
not
just
a
little
bit
of
attention
to
this
thought,
as
well
as
the
landscaping
make
sure
they're.
Okay,
with
the
limits.
A
E
D
I
will
second
it
with
the
friendly
addition,
if
it's
acceptable
to
make
with
a
motion
that
the
fourth
finding
a
sentence
be
added
at
the
end
of
that
saying
that
the
the
massing
of
the
proposed
building
is
high
volume,
unadorned
rectilinear
box,
which
is
consistent
with
the
massing
of
the
surrounding
buildings,
then
on
the
sixth
finding
at
the
very
end,
we
change
the
period
into
a
comma
and
say
making
use
of
the
existing
grid
in
accordance
with
the
circulation
element
of
the
general
term.
A
Okay
staff:
do
you
have
that,
so
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
asking
that
the
aac
take
a
second
look
at
the
facade
and
landscaping,
and
the
requested
change
under
findings
concerning
massing.
A
Got
it
okay,
terrific!
Will
you
call
the
roll
please.
F
A
Okay,
let's
fire
into
our
next
one
for
item
4b.
We
have
dale
long
of
the
wizard
of
oz
llc
for
a
determination
that
a
pet
grooming
use
similar
to
other
uses
permitted
in
the
large-scale
retail
commercial
zone.
H
Thank
you
good
evening.
This
is
a
determination
of
a
similarity
request
as
introduced.
This
application
was
submitted
by
mr
dale
long,
who
is
the
owner
of
the
business.
The
wizard
of
pals
grooming
salon
currently
located
in
the
city
and
the
business
wishes
to
open
the
second
location
in
town,
specifically
at
the
lcl
shopping
center,
and
that's
the
reason
why
he
submitted
this
request.
H
H
Lcl
shopping
center
may
be
the
last
property
that's
zoned
c1a
today
and
in
the
c1a8
zone,
peg
grooming
use
is
neither
explicitly
permitted
nor
especially
prohibited.
However,
this
zone
specifically
prohibits
animal.
Excuse
me,
animal
hospital
use
so
right
now
the
pig
grooming
uses
are
permitted
by
right
in
all
commercial
zones,
except
for
the
cvd
center
business
district
and
the
c1a8
zone,
and
I
use
is
permitted
subject
to
a
land
use
permit
in
the
downtown
palm
springs
specific
plant
area,
and
it
is
permitted
by
wright
within
the
neighborhood
commercial
and
his
designation
area.
H
In
the
section
14
specific
plan
area,
the
determination
of
similarity
the
zoning
code
recognizes
the
challenges
associated
with
developing
a
comprehensive
zoning
ordinance,
and
the
zoning
code
allows
the
planning
commission
to
permit
unlisted
uses
as
long
as
these
use
is
a
similar
to
permitted
uses
and
not
more
obnoxious
or
detrimental
to
the
permitted
uses
and
in
permitting
them
from
primitive.
Excuse
me
in
permitting
and
unlisted
use.
H
H
A
A
It
says
that
the
applicant
was
able
to
obtain
a
city
building
permit
and
went
ahead
and
completed
their
interior
improvements.
H
I
can
explain
to
give
you
a
background
information
on
that,
so
the
planning
division
approve
a
demo
permit
for
the
tenant
space.
However,
the
plans
for
ti
work
for
the
the
pe
grooming
salon
never
made
it
to
planning,
so
the
planning
division
did
not
have
opportunity
to
review
and
catch
the
zoning
issue.
A
H
Yes,
so
the
demo
apartment
was
issued
for
a
plan
and
the
scope
of
work
was
noted
as
a
general
retail
use
at
the
time.
Somehow,
when
the
plans
went
through
recheck,
the
scope
of
work
was
changed
to
a
dog,
specifically
dog
grooming
salon.
That's
what
was
noted.
H
The
scope
of
work
said
that
the
intent
was
going
to
be
a
general
retail
use.
So
that's
when
the
staff
approved
the
demo
for
it,
but
then,
when
there
was
a
recheck,
a
correction
requires
for
the
plan.
The
second
set
of
plans,
which
I
took
a
look
at
it,
noted
that
the
scope
work
is
going
to
be
for
a
dog
grooming
salon,
but
the
plans
were
never
routed
back
to
planning.
A
H
Yes,
that's
the
the
inflation
that
my
understanding,
I
think
the
one
of
the
reasons
that
the
planning
division
never
received.
The
plans
is
because
the
demo
permit
was
the
planning
approved
a
plans
for
demo
for
retail.
Excuse
me,
general
retail
use,
and
the
planning
was
not
aware
that
the
scope
of
work
has
been
changed.
A
Okay,
if
the
applicant
is
present
and
would
like
this
is
an
opportunity
for
you
to
speak
to
us
present
more
information
or
not.
You
don't
have
to
use
that
10
minutes
or
any
of
it.
But
we
are
yours
for
10
minutes
if
you'd
like.
A
And
give
us
a
sign,
psychically
or
show
us
your
face
or
unmute
and
tell
us
you
would
like
to
speak
with
us
there.
You
are
oh
hi.
E
B
Appreciate
your
consideration
in
you
know.
E
Letting
us
change
the
determination
of
the
building
and
I
you
know,
I'm
looking
forward
to
getting
an
approval,
so
we
can
start
doing
business
there.
A
Okay:
okay,
are
there
any
questions
for
the
applicant
while
we
have
him
here.
A
Okay,
so
this
is
the
time
that
the
applicant
would
normally
have
to
rebut
or
comment
on
our
comments
and
we
don't
have
any,
but
you
still
have
two
or
three
more
minutes
to
speak
to
us
if
you'd
like
to
oh,
no,
I'm
good!
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much,
bringing
it
back
up
to
the
planning
commission
thoughts,
tirades
motions,
commissioner
miller.
F
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
the
staff
analysis
of
this
is
great.
I
agree
wholeheartedly
that
the
this
use
is
very
similar
to
any
beauty
salon
for
a
human
client,
and
I
wholeheartedly
welcome
such
a
use
in
that
shopping
center.
F
A
Okay-
and
we
have
a
second
from
commissioner
elaine-
I
would
just
like
to
comment
before
we
we
vote
that
I
concur
with
commissioner
miller.
I
think
this
is
a
good
use.
This
is
a
company
that
I
guess
is
opening
its
second
business
and
that's
exciting
news
and
thank
you,
and
can
we
please
have
a
roll
call
on
the
motion.
Please.
D
D
E
E
A
So
this
is
a
time
in
our
meeting
where
we
will
have
planning
commissioner
reports
requests
or
comments
of
any
sort.
Does
anybody
have
anything
to
bring
to
this.
A
B
B
That
was
a
request
we
had
last
year
when
the
item
was
brought
forward,
so
I
did
get
a
response
from
commissioner
murutsy
and
if
there's
any
questions
on
that
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
either
me
or
or
don,
you
know
in
engineering,
but
just
a
reminder
that
that's
still
out
there
that'll
be
coming
forward
to
the
commission
next
month
and
and
just
a
reminder.
B
We
do
expect
some
more
items
on
your
agendas,
so
I
hope
you've
been
enjoying
the
light
work
that
we've
had
but
expect
harder
and
more
difficult
projects
coming
down
the
pipe.
B
E
On
that
capital
improvement
discussion
you
just
had,
could
you
tell
us
tell
me
the
process?
I
you
probably
did
already?
Maybe
I
was
missed
the
meeting
or
forgot
I
don't
know.
Could
you
just
tell
me
that
process.
B
Yes,
so
under
government
california
government
code
before
the
city
adopts
its
cip
plan,
the
planning
commission
is
supposed
to
make
a
finding
that
the
plan
and
the
projects
in
the
plan
are
consistent
with
the
student's
general
plan,
so
you're
not
actually
making
decisions
on
which
projects
are
good
or
which
projects
are
bad
or
which
projects
we
should
prioritize
versus
others.
B
That's
really,
ultimately
the
council's
decision,
but
it's
really
more
that
here
are
a
list
of
50
or
100
projects,
and
all
of
these
are
you
know,
we'll
present
more
information
on
that
when
we
bring
forward
the
staff
report,
but
you're
basically
saying
that
these
projects
are
consistent
with
the
city's
general
plan.
A
Okay,
what
else
do
you
have,
mr
newell?
That's
it
okay!
I
just
want
to
also
report
to
you
that
chairwormic
is
not
ill.
She
just
had
a
previous
engagement
that
she
was
not
able
to
change,
so
we
should
see
her
back
at
our
regular
scheduled
program
next
time
and
unless
anybody
has
any
parting
thoughts,
I
think
we
are
adjourned
until
our
next
meeting.