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A
B
C
A
D
C
A
Thank
you.
So,
let's
move
on
to
public
comment.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
historic
site,
Preservation
Board
on
agenda
items
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
the
board.
Although
the
Historic
Preservation
Board,
values
your
comments
pursuant
to
the
Brown
Act,
it
generally
cannot
take
any
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
There
will
be
three
minutes
assigned
for
each
speaker.
Testimony
for
public
hearings
will
be
taken
at
the
time
of
the
hearing.
A
E
D
A
E
A
D
D
A
C
B
A
A
A
Second,
by
so,
we
have
a
first
way,
a
motion
by
FERC
in
in
a
second,
by
number,
any
further
discussion.
C
A
B
Board
members
at
the
or
July
ninth
2019
meeting
you
nominated
the
Las
Palmas
liquor
store
building
as
your
top
priority
on
your
work
plan
in
this
particular
town
of
fiscal
year.
As
noted
in
your
staff
report,
the
building
is
significant
because
of
its
expressive,
bougie
style
architecture
and
it
reflects
the
growth
of
the
automobile
culture
in
the
post-world
War
two
period.
The
staff
report
goes
into
some
detail,
then,
in
terms
of
reviewing
the
findings
and
analysis
that
was
in
the
historic
resources
report
that
should
be
attached
to
your
staff
report.
B
B
The
report
did
not
find
any
particular
assignment
of
a
master
architect
or
builder
associated
with
it.
As
noted
on
page
four
of
your
staff
report,
the
analysis
of
integrity
on
this
site
begins
in
your
staff
report
on
page
five
and
the
seven
characteristics
of
integrity
have
all
been
found
to
be
present
and
and
strong,
causing
the
building
to
be
characterized
as
having
strong
integrity.
On
page
six
of
your
staff
report
is
the
beginning
of
the
defining
historic
characteristics
it
includes
the
building
shape
the
roof
and
its
related
elements
and
glulam
beams.
B
The
projections
and
cantilevered
facade
across
the
north
side
of
the
building,
the
openings
that
allow
the
building
to
be
very
transparent
as
a
commercial
storefront,
its
materials,
the
craft
and
detail,
as
well
as
the
overall
transparency
that
I
mentioned
of
the
North
facade.
The
non-contributing
features
are
noted
on
page
8
of
your
staff
report,
the
landscaping
mechanical
equipment
in
the
parking
lot
and
monument
sign,
so
staff
is
recommending
that
the
building
does
meet.
The
definition
of
a
historic
resource
based
on
criteria
is
three
four
and
five
and
retains
a
high
degree
of
historic
integrity.
B
C
C
C
Well,
of
course,
we
know
that's
not
original,
because
it
was
the
Germaine
brothers,
but
they
did
have
liquor.
Food
sign
up,
I
saw
in
historical
photographs.
My
question
is:
what
do
you
all
think
about
the
typeface
and
is
that
in
it's
such
an
important
part
of
the
built
you
know
the
building
is
that
does
that
appear
to
be
in
keeping
with
you
know
the
similar
you
know
or
similar
to
the
original
typeface
that
was
used
when
they
said
liquor
foods
I
wanted
some.
You
know
some
input
or
thoughts
about
that
from
either
staff
or
members.
D
I
agree
with
what
you're
saying
and
I
do
remember
very
well.
The
original
furnish
that
the
Germaine
brothers
seemed
to
have
something
like
a
crown
was
something
in
it.
I
mean
I
had
like
three
or
five
points
on
the
crown
with
a
very
mid-century
kind
of
motif
and
that
farm,
quite
incredible,
so
I
would
be
in
favor
of
trying
to
have
the
owner
bringing
back
that
punk
in
a
fine
program,
though,
that
it
merely
with
a
landmark
sign
on
the
corner.
D
That
obviously
needs
to
be
backlit
for
visibility.
But
yes,
I
was
certainly
concur
with
member
thought
that
that
was
a
defining
character,
defining
feature
of
that
building
because
it
sort
of
new
style,
where
you
have
a
fun
font
that
can
delineate
the
the
whimsy
of
the
overall
style
and
character
of
the
building.
I
do
have
more
comments,
but
I'll.
Let
other
people,
experiment
ghost
in.
B
I
have
a
question
for
either
or
both
of
you,
the
historic
photo.
That's
on
page
18
of
the
historic
resources
report
shows
the
a
signage
of
letters
from
the
North
facade
that
says
likert
foods,
I,
don't
know
for
certain
it.
It
does
kind
of
appear
that
the
liquor
foods
channel
cut
letters
that
are
now
currently
on
the
East
facade.
Almost
look
as
though
they're
the
same
letters
that
may
have
been
relocated
is
that
your
understanding
Jade,
that
those
letters
appear
to
be
from
the
original
sign.
B
B
C
C
I
would
agree,
yeah,
so
I
I
mean
I
could
just
kind
of
asking
what
everybody
else
thought
I
know
what
Jade
is
saying
Enrica
in
relationship
to
what
was
on
that
the
vertical
you
know
block
wall
which,
in
this
photograph
on
page
18
appears,
but
that's
someone
I
believe
that
mr.
Lyon
said
it's
no
longer
available
so
I,
so
there's
seems
to
be
to
two
areas
that
we're
looking
at.
You
know
the
type
base
for
liquor
foods
and
then,
of
course,
the
crown
icon
motif.
That
seems
to
be
missing
so.
B
B
D
You
I
would
just
like
to
know
that
for
the
record,
in
addition
to
the
information
on
page
17
of
the
north
wind
resources,
we
brought
some
more
information
about
the
Germaine
brothers,
because
the
period
of
significant
for
this
liquor
store
is
under
the
ownership
and
it's
important
to
enter
at
marks
into
the
record
about
them
as
possible.
While
would
discussing
this.
So
just
for
the
record.
D
Both
brothers
attended,
the
banning
Union
High
School
and
father
Dell
Dell
germane
senior
had
a
liquor
store
that
he
opened
in
1943
at
34,
east
landgo
street,
in
the
sons
double
jr.
and
philip
also
went
into
the
liquor
store
business
taking
after
their
father
once
they
completed
their
time
in
the
military.
A
certain
report
that
Philip
where
the
world
works
battlin
he
actually
served
in
the
US
Navy
to
be
specific
and
dobbert,
was
a
private
in
the
Army
Air
Corps,
and
he
had
a
wife.
D
Nancy
lived,
a
son
Airtel's
in
Cathedral
City
before
moving
to
Berlin
in
1962
I
got
most
of
this
through
local
phone
books
and
was
able
to
kind
of
piece
together
a
story
and
then
in
1964.
Another
relative
Wayne,
also
named
Germaine,
became
the
best
cousin
remain
by
the
look
of
foods.
So
that's
some
more
local
information
on
them
that
wasn't
in
before,
but
I
thought
it
was
important
and
I'm
happy
to
cut
that
out
and
give
it
to
ya.
In
due
time,
I
was.
D
A
Great
Jake
thanks
so
much
for
for
sharing
that
some
rich
history
here
we
can
see
more.
Are
there
any
other
questions
of
staff
if
there
are
no
further
questions,
I'd
like
to
open
the
public
hearing,
the
city
is
the
applicant
in
this
case
stamp
I,
don't
believe
that
the
owner
has
asked
to
to
speak
or
are
there
any
members
of
the
public
who
signed
up
wishing
to
speak?
We've.
B
A
C
Oh
I
just
wanted
to
add
something
just
it's
kind
of
fun
and
it
has
to
do
with
the
Association.
C
It
would
be
super
if,
within
the
store,
you
know
there
were
some
historic
photographs
of
people
that
lived
in
the
neighborhood
that
might
have
shopped
at
their
store
just
to
provide
some
educational
context
to
why
you
know
this
is
important
in
its
relationship
to
our
community
and
the
growth
of
our
community.
The
people
that
lived
here
and
in
hell
you
know
that
nor
North
Palm
Canyon
Drive,
is
is
of
significance
in
in
many
ways.
So
that's
just
a
side
comment:
okay,.
A
I
have
a
couple
of
comments.
First
of
all,
I
think
it's
very
interesting.
After
reading
this
and
listening
more
to
mr.
Nelson
about
the
Germaine
brothers
and
the
chain
of
liquor
stores,
they
built
certainly
says
something
about
the
importance
of
the
what
was
important
of
that
era
to
develop
those
kind
of
chains.
You
could
really
see
that
that
was
it
a
very,
very
important
part
of
our
history.
The
other
thing
I'd
like
to
mention
is
I
really
appreciated
the
the
ease
in
the
format
that
was
used
in
this
particular
report.
I
thought
it
was.
A
It
was
a
great
example
actually
compared
to
so
many.
You
know
that
we
review
and
they
used
the
way
they
did
the
photos
with
the
text.
This
time
was
particularly
interesting
also
noted
that
an
engineering
firm
designed
the
building,
which
is
a
good
example
again,
that
a
well-known
architect
is
not
the
only
ingredient
with
considering
designee,
so
I
just
think
it's
a
point
of
reference
going
forward.
This
is
another
perfect
indication
of
that,
and
that
is
the
end
of
my
comments.
Anyone
else
from
the
board
have
any
comments.
D
D
You
would
see
an
article
about
how
Scotty
for
housewarming
or
forty
of
date
Cody,
and
it
was
said
catering
by
Santos
and
liquor
provided
by
Jermaine
Brothers,
and
you
see
that
mention
over
and
over
and
over
again,
so
they
were
a
part
of
the
fabric
of
promise
and
anyone
who
was
turning
that
corner
going
to
the
cockman
house
or
to
llegará
circle
or
to
Bristol
of
Commons,
wouldn't
likely
stop
the
German
brothers
to
pick
up
a
husband
and
get
about
all
something.
Well,
maybe
W
Reynolds
was
coming
down
for
her
daily
fix.
D
I
would
like
to
stop
and
dis
board
and
the
prior
two
boards
for
putting
this
on
the
list.
It
was
a
building
that
I
had
brought
up
several
years
ago
when
I
was
on
the
board
the
first
time,
and
it
just
never
made
it
into
the
top
three
or
five
coyotes
so
I'm
very
happy
to
see
that
it
finally
been
recognized
because
goo
goo
is
so
important,
and
it
really
is
about
the
only
good
example
of
googy
that
we
have
here
in
town.
D
F
A
question
of
step:
okay,
I
I,
think
the
suggestions
about
the
people
who
visited
the
liquor
store
and
the
articles
in
the
newspaper
are
great.
How
is
that
shared
with
the
owner
to
encourage
the
owner
to
maybe
duplicate
some
of
these
articles
or
get
some
pictures
up
or
do
something
about
showing
a
little
of
the
history
and
those
who
shop
there?
Well,.
B
We
will
be
able
to
forward
on
the
minutes
of
this
meeting,
which
will
also
characterize
the
discussion
you've
had
and
if
member
Nelson
is
able
to
provide
me
a
written
narrative
of
his
summary
on
that
your
main
brothers.
You
can
also
include
that,
but
of
course,
the
interior
of
the
building
is
not
a
subject,
the
board's
purview,
and
so
it
would
merely
be
a
suggestion
to
the
owner
and
would
not
in
any
way
be
something
that
you
could
condition.
The
recommendation
on
right.
A
E
Taken
care
of
because
I
see
it
all
the
time,
and
it
was
one
of
the
buildings
that
stood
out
when
Ray
and
I
first
came
to
Palm
Springs
because
as
you're
driving
into
Palm
Springs,
there
is,
and
it's
sort
of
like
one
of
the
first
amazing
buildings.
Why
there's?
No
other
building
like
it
I
wish
that
there
was
a
way
that
we
could
encourage
the
current
owner
and
whoever
is
in
there
to
clean
up
the
windows
or
at
least
what's
inside.
The
windows
and
I
know
that
we
can
only
do
that
as
a
suggestion.
B
C
Just
to
Rifa
miliar
eyes,
myself
with
it
and
and
the
windows
are
a
bit
crowded,
but
it's
going
back
to
the
architecture
of
the
building.
It's
a
great
example
of
goobie.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
googy
in
Palm
Springs.
The
only
other
I
can
think
of
is
the
the
restaurant
Kings
Highway
at
the
Ace
I'm
very
much
in
favor
of
this
nomination.
I.
A
In
a
second
by
member,
any
further
discussion,
I
do.
A
D
B
D
B
A
Thank
you
very
much.
So,
let's
move
down
to
three
unfinished
business
3a,
which
is
the
consideration
of
a
request
by
the
Historic
Site
Preservation
Board,
for
a
historic
resources
report
evaluating
a
demolition
request
of
the
former
Iran
is
lodge
PLAs
for
Historic
Site,
located
at
239
West
Ramos
Road,
the
part
of
an
application
of
new
chart,
a
new
church
to
LLC
loaner
or
redevelopment
of
the
site
as
part
of
the
orchid
tree
in
a
mixed-use
hotel
project.
I
have
a
snap
report.
Please,
yes,.
B
B
As
noted
on
page
3,
the
site
is
comprised
the
four
one-story
residential
buildings
which
the
report
has
advised
has
been
constructed
between
1928
and
1953,
originally
developed
as
a
private
residence
and
convert
it
to
a
Marquart
hotel
residents
in
in
the
1930s.
The
analysis
that
was
conducted
than
on
the
Court
is
summarized
in
my
staff
report,
beginning
on
the
bottom
of
page
three
and
continuing
over
at
page.
B
On
the
middle
of
page
four
of
the
staff
report,
it
identifies
and
discusses
the
association
of
this
site
with
the
gentleman
named
Henry
Pearson,
however,
and
Pearson
had
some
acknowledgments
at
a
national
level
as
an
expert
in
rubber
industry.
It
was
noted,
though,
in
the
historic
resources
report
that
the
person
did
not
reside
at
239
West
arena's
during
the
time,
and
he
rose
to
prominence
in
the
rubber
industry,
and
so
the
residents
does
not
associate
with
his
productive
period
of
his
life
and
therefore
is
not
eligible
as
a
stork
site.
B
On
the
top
of
page
five
of
my
staff
report
and
beginning
on
page
39
of
the
hrg
report
is
the
discussion
and
analysis
of
integrity.
It
was
noted
on
page
41
of
the
historic
resources
report
that
the
only
integrity
aspects
still
remaining
on
this
site
are
its
location
setting
and
that,
due
to
many
of
the
alterations
over
time,
the
property's
integrity
has
been
degraded
and
is
not
reciprocating.
B
The
conclusion
that
we've
drawn
in
analysis
or
the
SEM
of
the
historic
resources
requires
that
the
project
does
not
meet
the
findings
required
for
considering
initiating
further
study
of
this
property
as
a
class,
1
or
class
2
site,
and
so
the
recommendation
of
staff
on
this
particular
matter
is
for
the
board
to
take
no
action
and
refer
the
application
to
the
director
for
further
administrative
processing
of
the
demolition
permit.
That
concludes
my
staff
report
and
I'm
available
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
so
board.
A
Being
done,
the
option
is
now
with
the
board.
Remember
recognize
and
remember:
unmute.
C
So
my
question
was:
are
there
original
clay
tiles
and
if
there,
if
they
are,
could
they
could
request,
be
made
that
they
be
retained
and
and
made
available
for
reuse
in
another
historic
building
of
that
period
within
our
region,
and
also,
you
know,
looking
at
some
of
the
may
be
the
original
interior
beans
if
they
were
still
there?
So
my
question
is
more
about:
is
it
reasonable
to
make
a
request
for
materials
to
be
reclaimed
and
reused
or
or
not?
Well,.
B
I
think
it
could
be
something
that
the
board
could
encourage
or
recommend
the
owner
if
he
does
choose
to
go
forward
with
the
demolition
Frank,
those
materials
that
may
be
salvageable
and
reusable.
However,
I
don't
know
whether
original
or
whether
the
tiles
that
are
on
the
roof
right
now
are
original
or
not.
We'll
try
to
do
a
little
bit
of
research
on
that,
for
you
remember
off
through
the
building
permit
process
and
I
think
there
are
building
permits,
I'm,
not
mistaken.
B
When
you
double-check
on
this
one,
no
I
think:
yes,
they
summarized
it,
they
don't
have
them
attached.
So
we
can
see
if
there
is
anything
that
would
give
us
any
clues
on
whether
those
tiles
may
be
original.
The
difficulty
would
be.
We
really
have
no
agent,
if
or
a
Salvage
architectural
salvage
here
in
Palm
Springs,
so
it
becomes
a
a
pile
out
of
material
that
kind
of
doesn't
have
a
home,
but
we
can
certainly
we
can
certainly
mention
than
our
the
board
would
encourage
salvage
and
reuse
of
those
materials
that
are
possible.
Thanks.
E
Mr.
chair
I
just
like
to
clarify
relative
to
demolition
of
the
structures
that
per
the
historic
preservation
ordinance.
No
demolition
permit
will
be
issued
until
a
building
permit
for
the
new
development
is
issued,
so
the
structures
will
remain
in
place
on
the
site
unless
and
until
a
building
permit
is
issued
for
the
new
development.
E
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
clear
that
we're
not
going
to
issue
a
demolition
permit
for
those
right
away,
that
they
will
remain
in
place
and
then,
secondly,
just
a
reminder
on
the
conditions
that
you
imposed
on
the
project.
There
is
language
about
reusing
architectural
tiles.
Have
mr.
Lyon
do
a
little
bit
more
research
on
that,
but
if
they
do
demolish
those
buildings,
if
there's
any
tiles
that
are
original,
they
would
be
required
by
the
conditions
of
approval
to
retain
those
and
use
those
on
the
new
structures.
So
that
was
it
mr.
D
D
Don't
know
how
they
were
able
to
determine
that
100%
absolutely.
But
when
you
look
at
the
building
closely,
it
does
kind
of
appear
that
they
seem
to
be
newer.
I
would
think
if
they
were
from
1928
or
1930,
even
that
they
would
look
the
girl
more
worn.
Perhaps
unfortunately,
it
doesn't
appear
that
there
any
original
tab
left.
In
my
opinion,
I.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mr.
Nelson
I
have
a
a
comment
and
a
question
actually
for
Stan
some
criterion
number
one,
the
conclusion
the
statement,
because
the
property
was
not
originally
designed
as
a
multi-unit
hotel
/in,
but
rather
was
a
conversion
from
the
single-family
residence
to
tell
use
with
numerous
modifications
it
just
not
retain
its
integrity.
So
Michael
is
not
to
debate
on
about
that
on
this
particular
demo
request.
A
But
from
the
standpoint
of
considering
future
nominations,
I
was
a
little
surprised
about
this
being
a
disqualification
when
you
think
about
the
kuraki
of
the
Willows
Colony
29,
which
were
all
originally
residences
that
were
converted
to
Motel
/
in
use.
So
I
just
think.
We
need
to
be
careful
about
the
the
wording
on
some
of
this.
So
that's
not
in
published
in
people's
minds
that,
because
something
was
formally
as
a
as
a
residence
in
curtain
2
a
into
a
hotel
or
an
inn
that
it's
disqualifying
if
it's
a
little
ambiguous
there.
B
Think
my
chair
briquette
the
the
following
sentence
after
that,
which
you
read
as
part
of
what
disqualifies
it
and
it
says
it
does
not
display
the
intentional
site
planning
and
landscaping
typical
of
the
1930s
hotel,
resort
development
of
Palm
Springs
and
no
longer
resembles
the
motor
court
hotel
that
was
developed
in
the
30s.
We
certainly
do
have
sites
around
the
city,
as
you
mentioned,
and
well
as
the
angle
side,
Inn
and
some
others
that
have
been
repurposed
under
new
uses
either
long
ago
or
more
recently.
A
recent
example
would
be
the
Robinsons
department
store
building.
B
Of
course,
it's
still
commercial
uses,
but
no
longer
a
single
use.
Department
store,
so
I
understand
what
you're
saying
and
it
should
every
application
that
we're
going
to
be
reviewing
will
be
taken
on
their
own
merit.
Well,
I
understand
what
you're,
saying
and
I
think
the
reason
that
it
was
identified
as
being
disqualified
is
that
when
you
think
of
a
classic
motor
court
development
of
the
30s,
this
building
really
does
not
typify
that
right.
A
D
Just
like
the
many
other
hotels,
they
all
had
their
regulars
and
they
came
there
Steven
after
Steven
and
many
of
them
was
there
to
bloggers
to
scout
real
estates
in
the
adjacent
neighborhood,
and
then
they
would
build
a
house.
Another
house
and
many
of
them
ended
up
living
here.
For
many
many
years,
are
you
know
the
permanent
home
or
a
permanent
seasonal
winter?
D
Home
I
would
like
to
point
out
on
page
29
of
historic
resource,
a
group
report
which
I
would
like
to
say
in
my
opinion,
feel
a
little
surgical
and
a
little
too
widget
from
page
29.
The
third
paragraph
said
the
subject:
property
does
not
represent
a
good
and
intact
example
of
1920
single-family
residential
development
on
this
important
period
of
growth,
and
then
it
goes
on
to
talk
about
with
conversion.
D
So
well,
it
doesn't
represent
a
single-family
home
from
the
period
it
does
represent.
In
my
opinion,
a
1930
bungalow
court
of
the
period,
because
in
that
context,
didn't
were
much
more
relaxed
back.
Then
it
wasn't
until
about
1947
the
year
that
pumping
from
the
map
with
local
modern
architecture.
That
bungalow
course
began
to
really
modernize
and
become
very
well
planned,
quieter,
that
it
was
all
very
bohemian
and
casual
or
twinkly.
The
majority
of
these
places
were
loose.
Many
of
them
were
former
homes
that
had
been
converted.
D
D
D
Viv,
it
is
many
of
them
prominent
in
the
field
or
well
known
in
town
or
in
the
state,
or
even
nationally,
for
the
next
eight
decades.
So
for
80
years
it's
been
a
place
of
lodging
and
for
20
to
30
of
those
years.
It
was
quite
significant
again
in
my
humble
opinion,
and
then
the
next
paragraph.
It
goes
on
to
say,
in
order
for
the
subject
property
to
be
eligible
for
local
designation
for
the
historic
Association,
it
must
be
an
early
clint
for
aware
remain
an
example.
D
B
It
certainly
is
the
opinion
of
historic
resources
group
they
do
go
on
and
the
following
pages,
though,
and
explain
why
they've
come
to
that
characteristic
conclusion
in
which
they've
compared
it
to
other
hotels
and
ends
of
that
period
and
they've
listed
on
the
following
pages
thence
and
some
tables
of
those
other
sites
that
they
compare
to.
But
I
believe
it's
from
those
other
comparative
examples
that
they're
determining
or
concluding
that
this
one
is
not
necessarily
a
rare
or
excellent
example
of
that
type
of
motor
court
from
the
period.
D
B
D
Club
neighborhood
has
a
website
and
they
have
a
contact
with
a
mailing
address
and
I
seem
to
remember
in
the
path
that,
when
an
issue
on
a
subject-
property
with
coming
before
the
board,
whether
they're
involved,
an
application,
were
potential
demolition
that
somebody
in
the
neighborhood
organization
would
notify
I,
don't
know
they
were
notified
because
they
probably
agenda
and
homeowner
called
them,
seemed
to
me
that
now,
with
all
these
formal
neighborhood
organization,
but
the
organization
itself,
should
we
see
the
documentation
of
what
it
being
discussed
in
their
neighborhood?
Well,.
B
Typically,
what
does
go
out
within
a
mile
radius
of
the
subject?
Parcel
of
the
notification
goes
to
those
neighborhood
organizations
and
the
email
contacts
that
we
have
for
them.
I
was
looking
to
see
if
I
could
find
the
notification
maps
that
went
out
on
this.
While
you
were
talking
and
I'll
keep
looking
while
you
consider
the
application
and
see
if
I
can
clarify
that
for
you,
but
typically
they
do
go
out
to
the
neighborhood
organizations
that
are
within
a
mile
radius
of
the
subject
parcel
and
just.
E
D
E
Not
this
particular
item
the
condition
of
approval.
They
have
a
number
of
items
that
have
to
go
back
to
AAC
and
to
the
City
Council
for
approval,
including
the
gabion
and
remember,
details
of
the
project
and
so
forth.
So
there
are
a
number
of
elements
that
do
have
to
go
back
through
approval
before
permits
can
be
issued.
D
F
Mr.
chair,
yes,
miss
Nixon
I
have
to
tell
you
I
am.
I
share
Jade's
concerns,
I
look
at
this
property
and,
and
while
it
doesn't
according
to
this
report,
it
misses
out
on
so
many
elements
that
make
it
historical,
but
it
is
a
big
part
of
Palm
Springs
history
and
it
just
if
it's
in
it's
in
the
historic
part
of
town,
it
is
a
historic
property
and
I
I
have
I'm
having
a
real
hard
time,
seeing
an
approving
demolition
of
these
cottages
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
of
course,
I'm
not
the
developer.
A
What
would
replace
that,
in
other
words,
how
many
units
would
replace
this
I'm
just
trying
to
look
those
who
have
even
from
developers
standpoint?
What's
the
trade-off
here?
If
there
are
nine
units
now
and
if
they
are
demolished,
how
many
units
do
they
are?
This
developer
wish
to
have
in
this
place.
B
B
A
B
To
reconstruct
the
buildings
in
the
same
location,
order
to
combine
all
the
properties
within
the
block
for
the
operation
as
one
hotel
with
74
guest
rooms
and
accessory
commercial
uses,
so
the
number
of
guest
rooms
would
be
74
how
the
exact
configuration
of
those
would
be.
We
have
seen
the
site
plan
on
that
set
of
drawings
that
were
shared
when
we
did
the
site
tour,
but
I
don't
have
it
immediately
in
front
of
me
as
to
what's
the
disposition
of
or
the
arrangement
of
new
units
on
this
particular
part
of
the
parcel
and.
A
I
have
one
here
to
comment:
if
one
were,
if
there
were
an
owner
of
the
property
and
they
decided
they
wanted
to
go
for
designation.
Just
at
this,
this
person,
even
and
the
many
of
the
things
that
have
been
done
to
the
property,
that
we
can
dis
integrity.
So
many
of
those
could
be
there
could
be
a
reconstruction
process
for
many
of
those.
So
I
don't
know
that
I
exactly
agree
with
in
the
report
that
the.
A
That
is
so
Park
upon
that
it's
apparent
that
it's
not
reversible
on
many
of
these,
so
it's
just
another
point
I,
think
us
to
to
consider
when
we
take
our
vote
as
to
whether
this
could
be
if
it
was
just
totally.
Somebody
really
wanted
to
come
to
take
this
project
and
they
really
wanted
to
get
a
designation
out
of
it.
I
think
that's
something
else
that
should
be
yeah
that
popped
into
my
mind
as
well
brush
you.
B
Have
these
resources
report
that's
in
front
of
you
that
would
make
that
not
possible.
As
far
as
the
recommendation,
the
professional
consultant
is
advising
you
on
so
yes,
someone
could
certainly
make
the
application,
but
again
you've
got
a
historic
resources
report
from
a
professional
that
tells
you
that
it
doesn't
meet
the
qualifications
necessary
for
designation,
but.
A
C
The
demolition
of
these
structures,
like
I,
really
agree
with
the
report,
mainly
on
the
architectural
merits
of
the
of
the
existing
buildings.
I,
do
understand,
there's
a
cultural
history
at
that
plays
in
it,
but
I
don't
see
architectural
II
that
these
buildings
do
have
integrity
to
be
to
be
repurposed
or
resaved.
A
A
C
C
You
know
the
highest
standard
and
with
with
so
many
alterations,
and
that
it's
not
really
an
intact
exact
excellent
example
of
the
period
and
style.
Unfortunately,
I
would
I
feel
I
would
be
supportive.
The
demolition,
although
I
hate,
to
say
that,
because
in
my
heart
you
know
we
don't
want
to.
You
know
demolish
anything
that
has
some
significance,
but
I
guess
it
just
in
my
heart
it
doesn't
meet
the
highest
standards.
I.
D
D
D
He
purchased
this
defunct
ranch,
which
was
owned
by
two
other
pioneers
who
gave
up
on
it
and
he
dug
this
wall.
That
was,
you,
know,
hundreds
of
feet
and
he
discovered
and
then
became,
beat
well
in
it,
and
you
know
he
wasn't
important.
He
was
the
nation's
leading
authority
on
what
and
every
noun
cometh
a
wider.
D
Look
whatever
change
the
feeling,
as
you
begin
to
drive
up
arena
of
world,
and
you
have
that
collection
of
small
building
from
different
decades
from
the
quarians
all
the
way
through
to
the
seventies,
and
it's
really
going
to
change
the
gateway
into
his
dog
kind
of
car
neighborhood.
If
you
will
that
corner
here,
the
Northern
Gateway,
it
could
have
dog
tennis
company
with
it
and
it
will
no
longer
have
to
hit
dog
deep.
D
A
A
B
If
you're
going
to
make
findings
that
these
buildings
should
not
be
demolished,
you
must
make
findings
in
support
of
these
characteristics
that
I
just
read
as
well
as
the
second
finding
being
that
the
class,
through
your
class
four
and
I'm
reading
on
the
top
of
page
five
to
the
class
for
class,
three
building
retains
sufficient
historic
integrity.
We're
not
relative
to
its
original
configuration.
Architectural
features
are
character.
So
for
you
to
make
this
motion
and
and
choose
to
go
in
this
direction,
you
need
to
make
findings
in
support
of
your
action.
F
A
B
C
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Where
does
it
stop?
I
thought
that
was
an
excellent
deliberation
which
was
very
healthy
and
going
forward.
I.
Think
it'll
hope
is
a
great
deal.
So
let's
move
down
to
a
new
business
review
of
proposed
text
amendment
in
this
equivalent
section,
8.05
historic
preservation,
staff.
Yes,.
B
A
A
D
The
word
underlined
copy
on
privately
owned
by
the
authority
of
the
HP
r2.
Vendor
decision
is
limited
to
the
fight
and
exterior
of
building
structures.
The
object's
interiors
are
not
subject
to
each
peer
review
when
publicly
owned
by
the
HPA
authority.
To
render
decision
include
aside,
the
exterior
of
the
building
structure
object
as
well
as
the
interior,
public,
faithful.
B
B
D
Would
like
to
suggest
a
possible
addition.
It
says
here
maintaining
a
register
of
designated
resources,
historic
districts
and
class
three
building
and
comparing
historic
markers
to
demarcate
resources.
Could
we
not
add
also
to
that
class
four
structures
by
significant
architects?
We've
got
a
discussion
we
can
have
or
an
answer
to
that
about
whether
or
not
you
could
add
class
forward
by
significant
architects.
So
we
do
that
quite
a
large
part.
It
does.
B
E
Would
recommend
that
number
one
we
need
to
define
who
a
significant
architect
is
that
becomes
a
little
problematic
the
best
way
to
solve.
That
is
anything
that
is
by
what
we
as
a
board
determine
is
the
significant
architect
should
be
elevated
to
class
three,
so
that
way,
it
has
the
additional
protections
with
class
3.
So
that
would
be
my
recommendation.
Okay,.
E
B
D
Altru
and
they
end
up
demolishing
or
you
know
they
say,
they're
going
to
remove
one
wall
and
they
end
up
taking
down
all
four
walls
and
leaving
the
slab
and
acrimony.
So
it
seems
to
me
the
word.
Any
demolition
or
alteration
would
be
a
little
stronger
than
the
demolition
of
alkylation.
Any
any
feedback
on
that.
B
Well,
there
is
a
definition
of
demolition,
which
is
the
full
and
complete
removal
of
the
structure
on
the
site
and
the
alteration
of
class.
One
or
two
is
going
to
come
before
the
board
anyways
as
a
partial
demolition
or
an
alteration
so
I
I,
don't
know
if
it
achieves
any
difference
in
distinction
between
the
words
op
or
Annie.
D
B
E
D
D
In
page
20
see
one
emmalution
or
major
alteration:
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
may
be
issued
by
the
age
50
be
at
the
approval
authority
for
demolition
or
major
alteration
to
the
Stork
resource.
That
feels
vague
to
me.
Why
does
it
say
may
when
before
it
seemed
like
it
was
stronger
I
think
before
that
will
must
so
now?
Why
is
it
more
loose.
E
E
D
D
D
I
was
just
wondering
why
why
I've
determined
solely
by
the
HP
r,
with
no
it's
a
DB
input,
because
just
this
relate
to
demolition
alteration
or
new
construction
within
a
district.
That
seem
pretty
major
to
me,
because
I
would
think
that
the
age
of
PV
would
be
the
Guardians
most
of
historic
districts.
I.
Think.
B
B
D
The
next
one
is
age:
29
I
would
like
to
out
possibly
on
a
two.
We
could
add
major
alteration.
It
says
a
trippy
be
review.
We
shall
review
a
permit
application
for
demolition,
a
major
alteration
of
any
Class
B
building
or
two
definitely
should
have
been
a
cop
for
building
and
I
would
like
to
add
to
that
major
alteration
of
a
class
for
I.
Think.
D
E
They
might
just
add
to
that.
Mr.
chair
one
of
the
things
to
keep
in
mind
when
City
Council
approved
the
new
ordinance
last
year.
They
were
very
concerned
about
class
four
and
they
were
hesitant
to
include
the
procedures
that
we
had
put
in
place
for
fear
that
it
would
hold
up
the
building
permit
process
and
prevent
owners
from
improving
their
residences.
I
would
be
very
hesitant
to
add
another
level
there
when
City
Council
is
unlikely
to
approve
such
a
change.
So
I
just
want
you
to
be
aware
of
that.
A
You
know
we
have
suggested
a
structure
of
merit,
which
I
think
is
a
is
a
great
way
to
position.
This
we've
already
had
experience
within
the
board
of
the
perception,
the
negative
perception
when
the
word
class
two
is
mentioned
and
yeah
I
just
think
that's
kind
of
a
universal
negative
perception
as
far
as
I
can
see
and
I
would
just
like
to
see
us
get
possible.
E
Mr.
chair
I
will
tell
you
that
we've
debated
this
of
continuity
that
historically,
we've
had
class
one
in
class
two
for
some
time
can
one
of
the
things
we
might
think
about
is
rather
than
calling
them
class
1
class
2
class
3
class
4
as
the
sub
category.
We
might
instead
refer
to
them
as
category
1
category
to
mr.
Burkett.
Do
you
think
that
would
be
better
than
calling
the
class
yeah.
A
E
A
A
B
Thinking
personally
on,
that
is
that
you
know
there's
many
many
many
aspects
of
all
parts
of
the
Municipal
Code
that
have
various
perceptions
and
misperceptions,
and
usually
it
only
takes
a
little
bit
of
explanation
to
somebody
for
them
to
conclude
and
get
comfortable
with
what
it
is
that
they're,
looking
at
so
I
think
that
the
matter
of
a
concern
about
perception
is
easily
ameliorated,
with
discussion
with
the
person
who's
got
that
concern,
but
your
thoughts
will
be
certainly
taken
into
consideration.
We've.
A
B
A
D
C
I
just
wanted
to
add,
you
know,
I
think
having
the
numbers
in
there,
but
maybe
changing
the
word
class,
but
having
the
numbers
because
landmark
and
historic
merit.
It
can
be
confusing.
I
mean
they're
they're,
both
great
titles,
but
they
could
be
like
witches,
which
is
the
highest
rate.
You
know.
Is
it
historic
merit
which
could
very
well
be
have
been?
You
know
what
was
selected
as
the
title
for
class,
one
landmark
so
I
I
think
for
clarification
and
understanding.
Somehow
you
need
to
use
the
numbers,
otherwise
people
I
think
will
have
a
harder
time.
C
Understanding
which
is
the
highest
category.
I
mean
there,
there's
always
the
the
best
and
then
the
next
best
in
the
next
best
and
so
I'm
in
favor,
of
keeping
the
number
and
and
you
staff
can
figure
out
what
what
the
word
is,
that
you
know
the
class
classification
word
to
use
because
landmark
historic
merit
and
potentially
eligible
eligible.
Don't
tell
me
what
order
they're
in.
So
that's
just
my
feedback.
B
A
So
anyway,
I
think,
if
we
don't
make
this
change.
A
A
B
The
argument
I
think
the
converse
argument:
if
I'm
a
you
know,
your
your
overall
historic
preservation
program
needs
to
maintain
a
level
of
quality
and
integrity
to
the
parcels
and
projects
that
are
being
designated.
You
know
somebody
has
a
project
or
a
property
that
in
fact
can't
rise
to
the
level
of
a
class
one
site.
Then
they
need
to
come
to
terms
with
that,
and
the
city
should
not
be.
A
D
Thank
you
good
on
that
note
of
what
member
Lyon
was
saying.
It's
a
theme
that
I
always
come
back
to
and
it's
not
just
the
building
or
the
fact
we
are
the
historic
Specht
Preservation
Board
we're
preserving
history,
admittedly
our
site,
so
it's
imperative
when
it
comes
to
home,
to
belong
to
people
that
read
Liberace,
for
example,
or
any
person
our
William
Scholle
or
all
distrustful
you
remember
may
be
housed
about,
may
not
be
significant
in
terms
of
character.
Defining
features
too
gay
as
it
work
then,
but
it
doesn't
love
him.
D
The
association
with
that
very
important
historical
figure
and
I
think
that's
where
the
delicate
balance
comes
in.
You
know,
if
the
SS
forward
for
us,
because
we
have
to
consider
and
respect
the
individual
and
the
history
behind
the
property,
the
resident
you
know
the
building,
not
just
the
architect,
word
the
building
itself,
as
it
may
appear
today.
So
there's
a
lot
of
issues
away.
Yeah.
A
There
really
are,
and
I
and
I
totally
understand
that
I
appreciate
everybody's
point
of
view,
I'm
just
glad
we
had
an
opportunity
just
to
air
the
or
the
situation
so
moving
on
to
class
for
could
we
request
consider
requesting
a
change
to
revolving
40
years,
which
eliminates
the
need
for
constant
adjustment.
I
know
this
was
part
of
our
discussions
of
Flynn
when
we
were
reviewing
this
over
the
many
many
months
and
I'm
wondering
now.
A
E
Chair
what
I'm
going
to
recommend,
because
City
Council
held
a
lengthy
debate
on
that
when
we
brought
the
ordinance
to
them
the
first
time
we'll
go
ahead
and
put
that
in
the
recommendations.
Again.
Yes,
we
proposed
the
updates
to
the
ordinance
and,
let's
say,
council,
weigh
in
on
that
I
share
the
same
concern
that
you
do
that
it
requires
us
to
continually
update
the
ordinance
with
a
new
date
rather
than
having
a
rolling
gate
so
again,
we'll
go
ahead
and
make
that
case
to
the
City
Council.
Okay,.
A
That's
great
greatly
appreciate
it.
My
other
thing
is
establishing
guidance
procedures
for
the
board
or
others
to
add
Billings
to
the
class-3
list
under
8.0
5.0
zero.
So
can,
if
you
could
they
think,
would
it
help
me?
Let
me
put
it
this
way.
Would
it
be
helpful
if
we
could
establish
some
guidelines
rather
than
just
of
what
you
would
want
if
we're
gonna
send
you
referrals
to
add
to
class
3
as
the
list?
A
A
B
Yes,
on
page
14,
it's
in
red,
if
I
can
I'll
read
it,
it
says
a
determination
of
eligibility
to
be
listed
as
a
class.
Three
building
shall
be
made
by
the
hpo,
based
on
evidence
gathered
using
the
California,
DPR
and
OSP
forms
or
their
equivalent,
and
the
criteria
outlined
in
section
8.0
5.07
OC
1a,
which
is
the
seven
points
of
criteria
for
class
one
site.
Well,.
B
A
Understand
but
I
would
think
that
if
we
were
to
give
you
some
basics
and
then
then
you
would
be
able
to
determine
the
rest
of
it
otherwise
I
mean
it
just
seems
a
little
bit
a
little
bit.
Oh
nervous
I'm,
not
saying
not
to
do
that,
but
I
was
just
hoping.
We
could
have
some
simple
guidelines,
but
I
don't
want
to
do
in
which
I've
been
guilty
go
before
is
sending
you
an
address
and
maybe
mentioning
an
architect
or
something.
And
then
you
know
that's
really
nice.
B
That,
when
you
think
about
when
you
look
at
a
particular
site,
again,
you're
looking
against
what
kind
of
criteria
would
make
it
potentially
eligible
yeah,
what
would
make
a
site
potentially
eligible?
Well,
if
it
has
one
of
the
one
or
more
of
the
care
mystics
that
are
listed
as
a
class-one
site
right?
Okay,
that's
what
I
think
we're
trying
to
get
at
okay!
I
can
live
with
that.
Okay,.
B
B
You
know
simply
having
an
association
with
a
person
is
not
good
enough.
It
has
to
be
association
with
a
person
who's
productive
period
that
made
him
significant,
is
associated
with
that
site.
It's
not
simply
a
matter
of
the
fact
that
many
people
live
there
or
that
person
owned
the
house
in
that
particular
case
on
dr.
Scholl,
which
is
ancient
history.
Now
you
know
the
owner
opposed
it,
and
we
had
not
made
compelling
examples
about
why
it
was
associated.
B
D
We
planted
that
that
was
a
contentious
issue
or
nomination
when
I
was
on
the
board
and
I
think
had
that
come
before
us
today.
It
would
have
gone
very
differently
because
the
climate
had
changed
and
I
would
disagree
with
Karen
on
a
point
to
even
know
it
wasn't
resident
during
the
significant
period,
the
dr.
D
B
The
national
criteria,
basis
of
upon
Jade
I'm,
sorry,
that
is
not
what
the
national
criteria
basis
it
upon,
they're,
very
clear
that
when
they
talk
about
a
person
of
significance
with
a
building
or
a
site,
if
it's
to
be
it,
was
to
meet
the
criteria
associated
with
persons
of
significance.
It's
a
national
criteria,
not
just
our
own,
which
we've
adopted,
is
the
site,
that's
associated
with
a
person
who
was
associated
during
their
productive
period
in
the
life
for
which
they've
made
them
significant
yeah.
So
I
understand
what
you're,
saying
and
and
I
think
it.
B
You
know
we
have
a
rich
history,
because
we
have
so
many
Hollywood,
celebs
and
others
who
have
been
here
but
I.
Think
again,
it
comes
back
to
the
question
of
the
quality
and
the
integrity
of
our
historic
preservation
program
and
when
you
have
a
city
that
so
many
people
of
great
notoriety
may
have
stayed
there
for
a
few
seasons
or
something
like
that.
B
D
That
Ken,
thank
you
one
more
thing
on
that
out.
It
was
very
intact
that
troll
house,
the
original
mammarra
wood
there
in
the
back
with
the
original
barbecue
would,
you
know,
worked
out
where
there
are
what
the
character
defining
features
were
there
the
light
the
crude
the
door
handle.
So
there
was
more
to
it
than
just
that,
so
it
was
just
a
different
climate
at
the
time.
I
don't
think
there
was
the
same
level
of
respect
or
appreciation
that
we'd
up
today
and
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that.
Thank.
A
A
B
I'll
express
the
gratitude
as
well,
because
you
know
this
is
the
meat
and
the
potatoes.
This
is
the
game
rules
that
we
have
to
play
by,
and
you
know
I'm
glad
that
we
have
a
board-
that's
paying
attention
to
this,
so
that
I'm,
not
the
only
one.
That
knows,
what's
in
the
ordinance
and
I
appreciate
that
so
Thank
You
mr.
F
Chair,
yes,
miss
Dixon
I'd,
like
to
thank
staff
for
the
simplicity
of
reading
this
ordinance
I
mean
it's
long
and
it's
involved
and
there's
many
changes.
But
for
me
you
made
it
easy
to
go
through
and
follow
what
you're
trying
to
tell
us
and
what
you're
advising
us
to
accept
us
changes
and
thank
you.
E
A
A
B
In
your
packet
is
the
memo
of
from
me
to
you
kind
of
outlining
again
the
the
way
that
you
guys
go
about,
putting
together
your
work
plan
for
the
year
and
in
the
past,
we've
tried
to
take
this
on
a
little
bit
earlier
in
the
summer.
Of
course,
this
year
has
been
a
little
bit
unusual,
but
in
the
past,
you've
looked
at
the
sites
that
you
would
be
considering
for
priority
sites
to
pursue
and
I
have
put
on
the
front
page
of
my
memo.
B
Some
of
the
that
you
might
want
to
keep
in
mind
as
you
think,
about
the
various
candidate
sites
throughout
the
city,
those
that
would
further
the
purpose,
those
that
would
be
rare
or
unusual
one-of-a-kind.
Those
that
are
particularly
historically
significant
under
recognized
or
a
little
melon
by
the
public.
Those
that
are
vulnerable
are
threatened
by
demolition
or
redevelopment
pressure
and
those
that,
through
the
designation
process,
can
become
catalysts
for
economic
development
and
neighborhood
improvement.
B
So
I
want
to
just
throw
that
out
there
in
terms
of
the
litmus,
if
you
will
about
when
you
start
thinking
about
those
various
sites
that
you
know
other
that
you
have
driven
by
if
it
falls
into
some
of
those
categories.
That
would
give
it
justification
for
consideration
on
your
work
plan.
The
second
part
of
the
work
plan,
which
is
on
page
2,
is
the
education
and
outreach
work,
some
of
which
has
done
at
a
staff
level
when
we
were
working
with
rulers
board
and
things
like
that
or
doing
presentations
to
one.
B
So
what
I've
done
as
what
I've
done
in
years
past
is
identified
the
things
that
you
had
on
your
list
from
last
year
that
did
not
make
it
through
the
process
this
year
for
either
workload,
issues,
staffing
capacity
or
the
fact
that
we
were
getting
a
lots
of
other
applications
from
the
public,
but
on
the
top
of
page
2
of
my
memo
are
the
ones
that
were
left
over,
so
to
speak,
that
we
did
not
get
to
from
fiscal
year
1920.
So
that
might
be
a
place
to
start.
B
Do
you
want
to
keep
those
as
part
of
your
priorities
for
the
coming
year?
Or
do
you
want
to
toss
those
aside
and
think
of
something
else?
And
then,
lastly,
is
the
question
of
what
other
things
you
might
want
to
consider
in
terms
of
possible
grants
and
things
like
that
for
the
certified
local
government
grant
program?
And,
lastly,
I
just
want
to
point
out
the
the
tough
part
of
doing
this.
B
This
year
we've
been-
and
you
been
extraordinarily
fortunate
in
the
last
two
or
three
years
that
the
council
has
been
rather
generous
in
the
budget
allocations
for
the
work
that
the
HS
PB
does
and
because
of
the
crisis
budget
crisis
that
the
city
is
facing.
We
are
facing
a
substantial
reduction
in
the
amount
of
budget.
That's
been
allocated,
I
believe
I
said,
there's
roughly
two-thirds
less
than
what
we
had
before.
B
Also
we've
had
some
staff
losses
through
layoffs
and
attrition
and,
as
a
result,
my
position
of
HBO
is
it's
having
to
pick
up
other
tasks
and
responsibilities
in
the
department
as
well.
So
we
have
a
little
bit
less
horsepower
a
little
bit
less
staffing
and
a
little
bit
less
money
to
play
with
so
I
just
want
to
manage
your
expectations
as
you
look
at
what
you
want
to
take
on
this
next
year
and
how
much
we
can
accomplish.
I.
E
As
Ken
has
mentioned,
with
the
fiscal
emergency
that
the
city
is
in
the
department,
will
those
two
members
and
possibly
three
members
of
our
staff
and
that's
a
significant
difference
to
what
is
essentially
a
very
small
department.
In
addition,
planning
is
being
combined
with
integrated
building
number
one
to
save
cost,
but
number
two
to
give
us
certain
efficiencies
in
administration
and
to
improve
our
customer
service
in
the
entire
mental
permitting
process.
So,
as
Kenneth
indicated,
it
does
impact
our
capacity.
E
Unfortunately,
while
we
will
retain
a
historic
preservation
officer,
which
I
think
is
absolutely
vital
to
our
historic
preservation
program,
he
will
have
to
take
on
other
assignments
and
responsibilities
relative
to
some
of
the
day-to-day
processing
of
applications
in
the
planning
sector.
In
addition,
the
budget,
unfortunately,
has
also
been
significantly
reduced.
E
We
anticipate
that,
should
we
be
able
to
have
large
gatherings
again
at
some
point
within
the
next
fiscal
year.
We
will
have
money
to
do
a
conference,
as
we
have
done
in
past
years,
but
we'll
have
to
cut
back
on
the
number
of
historic
resource
reports
that
we
can
do
we'll
also
cut
into
our
budget
for
doing
the
historic
markers
so
I
just
wanted
you
to
be
aware
of
some
of
the
challenges
that
we
are
facing
here
because
of
the
city's
budget
issues
and,
as
Ken
has
said,
that
we
need
to
manage
expectations.
E
B
Before
we
take
your
questions,
there,
lots
of
hands
are
starting
to
be
raised.
I
just
want
to
clarify
what
approach
we've
used
in
the
past
and
it's
been
fairly
effective
and
I
would
recommend.
We
try
doing
this
again
this
year,
and
that
is,
as
you
know,
we
will
be
dark
through
the
month
of
August.
The
board
will
not
meet
now
until
September
and.
B
What
we've
done
is
if
there
are
thoughts
or
ideas.
The
board
members
have
today
that
you
would
like
to
put
on
the
list
of
candidate
projects.
We
can
pull
that
list
together.
I
then
send
that
out
to
you,
via
an
email
and
I,
show
you
all
of
the
sites
that
you
have
identified
and
then
I
ask
you
to
rank
them
and
through
your
individual
ranking,
which
you
then
send
to
me,
and
you
say
well,
this
one
is
the
most
important
and
then
this
one
is
the
next
most
important
and
so
on.
B
We
are
then
able
to
get
a
group
of
sites
that
you
know
begin
to
rise
to
the
top.
If
you
will,
if
there's
four
to
six
sites,
that
we
want
to
keep
on
the
list
for
a
work
program
for
this
year,
that's
how
we've
made
the
cut
so
to
speak,
and
that's
also
how
we've
set
up
the
prep
top
priority,
I'm,
sorry
of
which
ones
we
tackled
first.
D
E
It
will
be
approximately
15
to
18
thousand
somewhere
in
that
range.
Okay,
one
of
the
things
I
need
to
caution
is
that
City
Council
will
continue
to
reassess
the
budget
on
a
quarterly
basis.
They
may
ask
us
to
remove
more
from
our
budget,
so
just
be
aware
of
that,
but
we'll
try
and
retain
what
we
can
to
keep
the
program
moving
forward.
Okay,.
F
F
E
E
C
A
question
to
help
succulent
supplement
the
small
budget
for
the
symposium.
Would
it
be
possible
to
to
ask
sponsors
or
underwriters
to
like
underwrite
the
cost
of
you
know
a
significant
speaker
or
panelist,
or
can
we
think
about
private
contributions?
That
may
not
be
tax-deductible,
but
could
certainly
be
helpful,
and
it's
good
for
marketing
for
whomever
donates
that
could
we
get
some
underwriting?
Is
that
something
we.
E
Have
to
be
very
careful
in
that
regard,
because
the
Historic
Site
Preservation
Board
has
certain
duties
relative
to
entitlements.
That
is
difficult
for
the
board
to
solicit
donations,
especially
where
there
may
be
an
overlap
with
individuals
who
may
have
applications
come
before
the
board.
So
for
that
reason,
we've
always
steered
clear
of
doing
something
like
that.
The
City
Council
has
somewhat
broader
abilities
in
being
able
to
do
that,
and
so
that's
something
that
perhaps
they
might
undertake,
but
it's
again
just
so
that
we
don't
lose
time
on
our
discussion
this
evening.
C
Meeting
PSP
eff
voted
on
to
write
and
prepare
the
nomination
for
the
Union
Bank
building,
so
PSP
F
will
be
taking
that
project
on.
A
That's
excellent
news
on
that:
a
good
idea
to
share
with
the
organization's
the
the
nominations
that
we
would
like
to
see
happen.
I
just
think
as
a
point
of
reference.
This
would
be
an
interesting
thing.
It
doesn't
mean,
though
we
have
to
do
them
ourselves,
but
this
is
our.
These
are
our
priority.
Wishlist
and
I.
B
A
C
Thank
you,
I
have
a
question.
Perhaps
you
can
remind
me
if
we've
ever
considered
or
looked
into
potentially
eligible
building,
which
is
the
Arthur
Elrod
office.
That's
at
8:50
North,
Palm,
Canyon
Drive
that
was
constructed
in
the
in
the
1960s
nice
modern
building.
Do
you
know
what
I'm
which
building
I'm
talking
about
has
I've
ever
been
considered
or
looked
into
it
is?
Is
it
potentially
eligible
I
I,
don't
know
if
it's
been
reviewed
or
discussed
in
the
past
I,
don't.
B
C
C
D
Katherine
brought
that
up
that
building,
you
can
f,
go
about
to
be
fold
and
I
had
done
some
preliminary
research
on
it
and
the
path,
and
my
record
indicated
that
it
was
originally
designed
by
John,
Porter
Clark
and
with
the
home
of
Sally
and
plumbing
and
we'd
build
a
ritual
actually
in
the
thirties
or
forties
and
then
were
modified
in
the
late
fifties
or
sixties.
So
I
do
think,
there's
quite
a
bit
of
history
attached
in
that
building
and
I.
Think
it'd
be
a
wonderful
candidate
for
the
flu
and
since
I've
got
the
floor.
D
There
are
two
houses
in
a
neighborhood
that
I
would
like
to
see
definition
pursued
for,
but
the
owner,
quite
particular
he
also
Kaufmann
house
and
so
I
would
think
we
would
want
him
to
initiate,
or
maybe
the
city
could
reach
out
with
a
ladder
to
see
if
he
would
entertain
the
notion-
and
there
would
be
three
sixty
seven
and
395
South
potentia
one
by
Edward
ticket
and
won
by
the
father-son
team.
The
wheelers
architects
out
of
San
Diego.
D
B
A
D
B
B
B
B
D
B
So
I'll
put
those
together
into
a
list,
I'll
send
them
to
you,
then
what
I
would
and
I'll
put
something
in
there
for
two
some
extractions
and
if
there's
anything
else,
you
want
to
add
on
to
it
to
do
so,
and
then
I
will
formulate
that
stuff
I'll
package,
it
I'll,
send
it
back
out
to
you
and
ask
you
to
give
the
priorities
one
two
three
four
five,
depending
on
how
many
there
are
so
that
we
can
then
come
up
with
a
short
list
that
that
you're
interested
in
okay.
Mr.
D
You
know
a
little
testy,
perhaps
about
outside
influence
and
I
mean
that
in
the
nicest
way
possible,
but
I
don't
know
if
he
saw
that
we
had
made
of
and
included
those
two
addresses,
but
that
would
be
a
bad
folks,
maybe
it'd
be
better
for,
but
this
is
all
public
record
now
I
mean
it's
meeting
the
public.
So
anyone
know
this
now,
but
it
might
be
better
if
Ken
well,
the
letter
saying
you
know,
there's
been
some
discussion,
would
you
be
considered?
Would
you
consider
it?
Would
you
be
open?
D
B
B
It's
happened
in
the
past.
There
was
a
many
years
ago,
a
time
when
we
were
sending
letters
out
to
various
property
owners
on
sites
that
the
board
felt
had
merit
to
be
considered.
I,
don't
think,
we've
ever
been
successful
in
having
one
of
those
letters
generate
an
actual
application,
but
hope
springs.
Eternal
right,
I
want
to
just
point
out
in
the.
B
There's
a
there
are
two
letters
in
there
that
I
had
sent
to
the
owner
of
that
building,
yeah
in
which
I
you
know
trying
to
positively
point
out
that
you
know
this
was
a
big
thing
and
that
you
guys
were
very
excited
about
it
and
so
on,
and
you
know
those
kinds
of
letters
may
work.
You
know
we
can
certainly
try
that
I.
Think
it's!
You
know
it's
a
it's
a
tough
thing
to
negotiate.
You
know
it
does
putting
it
on
the
list
and
getting
somebody
excited
about
it.
B
D
You
know
they
feel
like
just
a
very
official,
and
you
know
they
they
think.
Maybe
it's
negative
I've
heard
that
from
people,
but
would
it
not
be
proper
protocol
to
have
a
letter
that
came
from
the
HSP,
be
it
was
signed
by
all
of
us
in
addition
to
ten
and
the
directive
rather
than
coming
from
the
city
per
se?
Or
is
it
a
new
cult,
I.
B
I
don't
know,
I
think
that
the
the
HS
PB
is
a
agile
part
of
the
city.
Take
a
look
at
the
I
was
just
I
found
it
here
in
this
report
on
Las
Palmas
liquors.
Take
a
look
at
my
November
19th
letter
that
I
wrote
to
the
owner
of
Las
Palmas
liquor.
This
that's
the
kind
of
letter
that
I
would
suggest.
If
we
do
put
out,
might
might
be
the
kind
of
language
that
we
would
use.
D
D
Agree,
I
think
maybe
if
we
made
eleven
work,
personable
and
a
little
more
human
and
we
all
find
it,
it
might
feel
like
you
know,
if
it's
a
collective
group
of
individuals
rather
than
one
person
telling
this
building
owner
them,
you
know
what
you
have
to
do.
Even
you
know,
because
it
just
feels
so
official
being
on
a
city,
letterhead
and
whatnot
that
some
people
drop.
Take
it
perhaps
the
one
way.
C
When
recommendation
that
I
have
when,
when
I
knew
that
mr.
Lyon
was
writing
a
letter
to
a
homeowner,
that's
on
this
list,
I
am
acquainted
with
that
person.
So
I
wrote
them
a
friendly
little
handwritten
note.
Giving
in
the
warning
you
know
friendly.
You
know,
you're
gonna
be
getting
a
letter
from
the
city
and
we're
all
excited
about
this,
and
that,
and
so
just
kind
of
a
personal
warm-up
kind
of
touch
might
be
helpful.
B
B
What
we
have
here
in
terms
of
both
our
history
and
our
architectural,
our
cultural
history,
as
well
as
our
architectural
history-
and
you
know,
education
helps
little
by
little.
I.
Think
people
begin
to
understand
it
and
become
aware
of
it,
and
certainly
modernism
week
as
and
a
tremendous
positive
influence
on
raising
the
positive
awareness
of
preservation
in
the
community,
so
I
think
the
work
that
the
board
does
around
the
symposium
our
little
booths
that
modernism
week
you
know.
Maybe
people
don't
pick
up
a
brochure.
B
Maybe
they
don't
really
look
at
it,
but
it's
it's
the
thing
that
they
see
and
you
know,
HSP
be
banners
the
big,
yellow
banners
I
think
are
ones
that
people
begin
to
sort
of
go
yeah.
That's
that
that's
that
board,
all
that
good
stuff
and
so
I
think
that
the
work
that
you've
done
has
contributed
to
preservation
being
more
positively
received
by
the
community.
I
think
the
community
and
I
can
just
tell
you
this
anecdotally
from
the
number
of
Mills
act.
B
Contracts
that
we
receive
the
community
is
understanding
the
benefits,
the
financial
benefits
that
come
with
historic
preservation
and
that's
been
enormous,
ly
important,
I
think
in
terms
of
people
having
a
positive
idea
about
what
class,
1
or
2
designation
means
for
them.
The
mills
act.
Contract
program
is
really
the
most
beneficial
program
that
the
state
has
and
I
think
we've
seen
it
being
used
to.
B
A
Palm
Springs,
thank
you
and
so
I
think
we
wrapped
up
the
annual
work
plan
and
it's
time
to
move
on
to
5b
conference
planning
is
the
perfect
segue
talking
about
our
architectural
history.
The
yesterday
and
tomorrow
proposed
conference
that
I'd
like
to
speak
with
you
about,
is
an
initiative
by
the
Palm
Springs,
architectural
Alliance
and
I.
Think
most
of
you
know
what
that
Alliance
is
all
about
sort
of
an
umbrella
of
organization
from
what's
not
an
organization.
It's
an
umbrella
that
in
that
actually
encompasses
nine
different
organizations
in
Coachella
Valley,
that
are
architects,
reservation
focused.
A
So
the
purpose
of
this
proposed
conference
would
be
to
raise
the
awareness
in
our
community
of
the
of
the
importance
of
Constraints
legacy
and
of
our
architecture
and
ultimately
develop
a
matrix
checklist.
If
you
will
of
updated
guidelines
for
developers
and
architects
for
future
buildings.
We're
talking
about
that
the
future.
Here,
the
inspiration
came
from
a
conference
that
the
Santa
Barbara
City
Government,
put
on
last
summer,
and
it
was
to
consider
the
city's
present
and
future
urban
design
needs,
including
affordable
housing.
A
A
What
was
really
interesting
about
this
event
got
my
attention
was
that
it
brought
together
the
city,
government,
architects,
preservationist
developers
and
entrepreneurs
to
explore
the
city's
historic
past
in
its
DNA
and
its
relationship
to
the
future.
So
it's
like
a
review
of
the
history
and
what
made
our
DNA
sort
of
sets
the
stage
fast
forward
to
a
potential
Palm
Springs
virtual
conference
due
to
kovat
the
ideas
while
honoring
the
past
of
our
architectural
legacy.
The
goal
is
also
to
encourage
introduction
of
new
innovative
technologies
and
sustainability
for
futuristic
design.
A
But
it
would
have
the
final
approval
of
the
planning
director
and
the
conference
would
be
produced
by
again
by
Deborah
and
Richard
Hoagland.
There
would
be
no
cost
to
the
city
whatsoever
in
doing
this
and
what's
happening,
I
first
Cindy,
Williams
and
I
from
the
PSA,
a
and
first
ed
with
Deborah
and
Villa
Boyd.
We
had
a
meeting
with
finally
director
bag
to
get
his
input
and
his
blessing
before
we
took
the
next
step
and
from
that
which
we
were
very
happy
to
receive.
A
Councilmember
holstered,
as
well
as
the
chair
of
each
of
the
organ
cities,
commissions
and
boards
that
I
just
mentioned,
and
we
are
in
the
process
of
making
that
happen.
So
this
is
sort
of
a
just,
giving
you
an
an
overview
as
to
what
it
would
be,
but
we
would
be
her
parent.
We
as
a
would
prepare
a
list
of
proposed
topics
that
we
would
be
then
sharing
with
those
Commission's
and
the
council
for
input
and
for
changes
additions,
and
there
will
be
a
series
of
presentations
and
panels
or
discussion
out
of
all
of
this.
A
A
A
A
Sorry,
because
for
the
home,
eating
without
I
had
the
door
closed,
but
he
opened
it.
So
that's
the
way
we
would
we
that
part
of
the
discussions
Linda
get
as
far
as
the
timing.
The
great
thing
about
virtual
is
you're
not
as
dependent
on
just
being
in
season
as
much
as
you
would
be
we're
going
to
be
a
live.
Oh.
A
And
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
weren't
comments
so
forth.
Any
comments.
I
I,
have
one
I
recommend
that
the
symposium
subcommittee
to
have
a
discussion
prior
to
the
September
meeting
about
moving
forward
with
a
symposium,
realizing
that
we
have
a
lot
of
limitations
with
the
coveted
and
are
there
options
we
want
to
consider
and
that
we
would
do
that,
of
course,
with
finding
director
Flint
bag.
A
A
Is
remember,
Huff,
Kaiser
and
myself,
great
okay
and
my
last
comment
would
be
stab
if
there's
realizing
what's
happened
here
with
the
reductions
and
so
forth
with
the
budget.
If
there
is
any
time
I
think
that
you
see
that
the
board
you
wish
to
be
take,
you
know
some
sort
of
a
responsibility
whatever
that
might
be
to
help
you
in
any
way.
A
I
I
think
that
we
as
it
the
board
should
offer
that
I,
don't
know
what
it
would
be,
but
just
going
forward.
I
know
your
time
is
very,
very
limited.
So
if
there's
anything
we
can
do
to
chip
in
particularly
under
these
circumstances,
I
would
I
would
feel
like
the
board
to
to
support
you
all
in
doing
that.
E
Certainly,
we
appreciate
that
chair
for
Kent.
You
know
one
of
the
things
where
we
can
always
use
help
I
believe
is
in
the
area
of
education
presentations
that
we
do
to
the
Board
of
Realtors
and
other
groups.
Certainly
we
can
have
members
of
the
Historic
Site
Preservation
Board
assist
us
with
those,
so
we
will
be
mindful
of
opportunities
that
come
up
in
the
near
future.
That's.
D
The
city
reaches
out
to
the
commercial
listing
agent
if
they
choose
to
sell
the
building
or
the
business
or
the
building,
rather
so
that
the
realtor
is
photo
where
what
what
they're
promoting
and
what
a
potential
buyer
would
be
getting
and
all
doing
education
to
come
with
that,
because
that
is
a
hugely
important
class
one
side.
It
goes
back
to
the
Davidian.
You
know
the
Robeson
family
now
the
car
it's
all
connected,
so
that
is
really
an
important
insight.
D
My
second
comment
regarding
Bank
of
America
a
few
weeks
to
a
month
ago.
I
would
actually
walking
right
by
that
building.
We
all
know
the
one
with
the
beautiful
blue
tile,
the
blue
car,
at
the
intersection
of
Tom
Canyon
Indian,
where
the
B
is.
It
appeared
that
a
number
of
those
tiles
have
fallen
off
on
the
Indian
Canyon
side,
so
that
would
be
the
East
Asian
side
and
they're
not
on
the
ground.
So
there's
a
chunk
of
missing
tiles.
It's
quite
noticeable.
Also.
D
Somebody
had
plastered
some
paper
flowers
on
those
blue
tiles
so
that
they
were
facing
south
like
I,
think
there
were
four
or
five
eight
by
1000
loads,
your
paper
flyers
and
a
few
days
later
they
had
been
ripped
off
leaving
behind
the
glue
and
the
paper.
So
that
needs
to
be
brought
to
the
bank's
attention
so
that
they
can
clean.
E
D
B
Memo
is
the
Palm
Springs
racket
club,
and
we
have
that
the
board's
request
initiated
a
historic
resources
report
on
that
one
as
well
basically
update
the
previous
reports.
There
was
a
report
that
was
done
back
in
2004
when
that
parcel
was
in
operable
condition
and,
of
course,
the
site
has
seen
severe
deterioration
since
then.
So
the
the
we
have
a
report,
that's
in
draft
form
that
we're
working
on
to
update
the
conditions.
Analysis
on
on
that
site.