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A
B
Yes,
commissioner,.
E
B
I
know
she's
on
her
way.
She
asked
me
to
show
some
stuff
chair
sheffer
here,
commissioner
murray
is
excused.
B
A
Hey
all
right,
may
I
have
a
motion
please
to
accept
the
agenda.
A
What
are
we
going
to
do
with?
Actually,
please
good,
all
in
favor.
A
Okay,
very
good
public
comments.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
public
arts
commission
on
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
commission
and
agenda
items.
If
the
member
of
the
commission
cannot,
a
member
of
the
public
cannot
be
present
later
in
the
meeting
at
the
time.
The
item
is
heard
by
the
commission.
A
Additionally,
members
of
the
public
may
address
the
commission
on
each
item
listed
on
the
posted
agenda
at
the
time.
Each
item
is
heard.
Although
the
public
arts
commission
values
your
comments
pursuant
to
the
brown
act,
it
can
generally
not
take
any
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
Five
minutes
are
assigned
for
each
speaker.
A
A
Okay,
very
good
I'd
like
to
ask
you
to
try
to
keep
it
to
five
minutes,
because,
after
after
you
present
it
we're
going
to
have
to
see
if
there's
a
couple
of
commissioners
that
would
like
to
work
with
you
on
this
project.
A
So
we
can
leave
a
little
time
for
discussion
of
what
what
it
would
take
to
move
it
forward.
Okay,
so,
but
meanwhile
tell
us
about
it,
and
if
you
like,
jay
can
project
your
the
materials
you
sent
us
and.
C
C
Okay,
you
want
me
to
go
ahead.
Yes,
please
do
okay,
first
I'll
briefly,
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
who
bob
and
I
are
boss,
my
husband
and
were
involved
with
the
city
quite
a
bit
and
have
been
for
a
long
time.
C
We
used
to
be
the
co-chairs
of
neighborhood
formation
support
for
1ps,
we
retired
from
that
at
the
end
of
last
year,
so
we've
met
with
all
the
neighborhoods
throughout
the
city
over
the
years
and
gone
to
their
meetings
and
so
forth,
and
so
that's
how
we
got
to
know
so
many
of
the
places
around
the
city
and
we
thought
that
the
city-owned
land
at
the
south
end
of
lawrence
crossley
was
a
great
opportunity
for
a
park,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
talk
about
renaming
golf
club,
lawrence
crossley,
which
is
a
great
start,
but
it
wasn't
enough
to
elevate
the
story
and
it's
an
important
rich
story
for
our
city,
and
we
thought
this
would
be
a
great
suggestion.
C
We
talked
about
that
and
then
lisa
middleton
spoke
about
it
about
a
year
and
a
half,
maybe
two
years
ago,
at
one
of
the
1ps
meetings
asking
for
suggestions
and
we
looked
at
each
other
and
said:
well,
let's
put
it
together
and
send
it
in
nothing
happened,
and
we
thought
you
know.
We
need
to
revisit
this
and
send
this
to
someone.
C
And
so
that's
why
we
sent
it
to
the
parks,
commission
and
the
arts
commission,
because
we
think
an
art
part
would
really
help
elevate
it
and
also
bring
a
wonderful
resource
for
deserving
neighborhood
at
lawrence
crossley.
C
So
it's
really
not
so
much
a
project
of
ours
other
than
us,
suggesting
the
location
and
maybe
some
of
the
logistics
and
some
inspirational
ideas
originally
but
we'd
like
to
see
the
arts,
commission
and
the
parks
commission
take
it
on,
and
we
have
a
couple
of
other
little
logistic
things
that
we
might
work
with
some
of
the
commissioners
on
related
to
it.
But
the
story
needs
to
be
told
by
some
of
our
palm
springs
residents.
A
Jay,
can
you
show
that
the
photos
that
he's
that
paul
sent.
F
C
You're
close,
I
think,
jay's
going
to
get
the
pdf
up
on
the
screen
in
just
a
minute.
I
think
he
provided
it
for
you
in
your
materials
and
so
you'll
be
able
to
see
it
okay.
So
these
are
some
of
the
image
examples
that
we
we
gave
the
end
jay
if
you'll
scroll
up
to
the
top
of
that
pdf.
C
I
think
there
you
go
so
we
put
a
couple
of
images
on
here
that
are
that
map
it
out
so
you'll
see
34th
avenue
which
we
are
proposing
should
also
get
renamed
lawrence,
crossley
art
park
way
and
especially
if
there's
a
park,
and
then,
if
you
look
at
outlined
in
orange
at
the
end
of
lawrence,
crossley
neighborhood,
that's
city-owned
land
and
it
would
be
ideal
for
creating
a
park
there,
and
that
would
be
a
great
place
to
do
lawrence
crossley
art
park
and
tell
mr
crossley's
story,
which
really
needs
to
be
elevated,
adding
art
to
it
attracts
people
to
it.
C
It
could
also
be
a
great
product
for
students
from
the
schools
to
learn
local
history
about
palm
springs,
my
husband
being
a
retired
teacher.
He
thinks
about
those
things
often.
So
what
is.
F
C
Notice
a
little
gap
in
there
there's
a
to
fully
answer
that
question.
I
don't
think
that
I
can,
but
I
do
know
that
it's
owned
by
the
city,
because
we
looked
into
it
about
a
year
and
a
half
two
years
ago,
when
we
put
all
this
together,
we
were
aware
of
it.
In
fact,
the
leadership
in
that
neighborhood
has
already
seen
this
proposal
when
we
proposed
it
a
year
and
a
half
two
years
ago,
so
they're
familiar
with
it.
C
I
don't
know
what
happened,
why
it
got
stalled
and
didn't
get
forwarded
anywhere,
but
we
just
thought
this
would
be
something
the
city
needs
and
I'm,
I
believe,
there's
community
support.
I
believe
there's
support
from
our
city
leaders
to
be
able
to
do
this,
there's
a
gap
in
that
park
and
that's
just
because
it's
a
right-of-way
for
the
mobile
home
park,
that's
to
the
south
of
it,
but
that
can
easily
be
continued
and
integrated
in
into
the
park.
So
yeah.
C
Okay,
just
so
you
know
those
trees
which
were
unkindly
renamed.
Those
actually
were
planted
and
fully
grown
at
the
time
that
the
lawrence
crossley
neighborhood
broke
ground,
there's
actually
pictures
from
the
desert
sun,
where
mr
crossley
and
city
leadership
had
their
shovels
in
the
ground
and
all
those
trees
were
behind
them.
C
We
were
very
involved
helping
this
neighborhood
working
with
the
city
dealing
with
that
issue
which,
as
y'all
as
many
of
you
may
know,
got
rather
contentious,
but
I
I
believe
probably
the
neighborhood
is,
is
happy
with
the
result
I'm
hoping
they
are.
I
haven't
followed
up
with
them
in
a
while,
but
we
were
there
for
all
the
meetings
and
stuff
like
that,
so
I
just
want
to
throw
that
out
there
before
someone
doesn't
have
the
right
information
about
it.
Yes,
those
are
the
famous
tamariss
trees.
C
From
google
maps
and
on
google
maps
at
the
time
that
we
did
this
a
year
and
a
half
two
years
ago,
those
google
maps
still
showed
the
tamerous
trees
there
they're
no
longer
there.
A
Have
you
had
any
response
from
the
parks
department?
Not
yet
okay?
Well,
I'm
I'm
going
to
suggest
and
ask
if
if
the
commission
agrees
that
patrick
sheehan
who's
working
with
the
parks
department
be
your
liaison
to
I
mean
it
has
to
be
a
park
before
it's
an
art
park,
so
we
really
can
only
follow
on
their
lead.
A
But
if
there
are
commissioners
who
would
be
interested
in
working
on
this,
possibly
chandra
because
it's
it
sounds
like
another
place
for
some
qr
codes,
and
you
know
some
real
background
information
on
lawrence
crossley,
but
if,
if
shonda
and
anyone
else
would
like
to
work
on
this,
I
I
think
we
could.
You
know,
make
it
a
informal
committee
to
work
with
paul
and
and
really
find
out
if
the
parks
department
is
interested
in
going
forward.
I
love
these
suggested
pieces.
C
It's
pretty
good
size.
There
is
a
narrow
strip
at
the
bottom.
That
is
hard
to
tell,
but
it
would
be
great
for
some
of
those
story
panels
to
go
along
where
you
could
walk
around
them.
It's
a
decent
sized
area,
it
could
be
a
nice
park,
it's
not
a
huge
park,
but
it
would
be
a
nice
park
and
it
would
be
a
great
way
to
use
that
city-owned
land
for
the
for
the
neighborhoods.
A
Have
any
thoughts
about
how
to
proceed
with
this?
How
to
see
if
we
can
do
it
tomorrow,.
H
And
you're
asking
us
if
a
commit
commissioners
want
to
participate,
but
then
you
also
brought
up
patrick
sheehan
who's,
one
of
our
contractors,
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
at
this
stage,
or
is
there
a
a
committee
being
set
up
because
I
actually
don't
necessarily
think
this
is
the
right
way
to
bring
in
the
pub
you
know
to
select
people
to
be
part
of
this
of
this
planning
conversation
in
this
way.
H
A
I
would
say
it's
sort
of
a
working
group,
I
mean
we
can't
go
forward
without
a
better
idea
of,
and
then
I
agree,
you
know
when
any
sort
of
jurying
or
or
selection
of
the
art
would
have
to
involve
neighborhood.
H
Yeah
no,
but
I
even
think
a
working
group
needs
to
involve
I'm
so
excited
about
this.
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
good
idea.
I
don't
know
much
about
this
particular
neighborhood,
but
I
do
think
it's
very
important
that
there
are
people
of
color
involved
in
the
working
group
from
our
neighborhoods
and
from
our
you
know
I
just
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
individual
african-american
citizens
in
the
city,
but
I
I
do
think
that
we
just
need
to
have
perspectives
on
that.
That
understand.
H
A
What
we
might
do
is
offer
a
couple
of
people
either
on
the
commission
or
working
with
the
commission.
I
see
tyson's
here
I
mean
if
this
is
a
project
that
would
interest
him.
We
just
need
to
say:
okay,
we've
got
a
couple
of
people
to
work
with
yeah.
H
Perspective,
I
think
that's
also
really
really
important.
You
know
a
lot
of
our
parks.
Don't
really
incorporate
the
needs
of
young
families
in
the
way
that
I
think
that
they
should.
You
know
that's
what
parts
are
geared
towards,
so
I
you
know.
I
just
think
we
really
need
to
in
the
planning
moment
in
the
moment
when
this
is
really
being
presented,
that
the
working
group
team
is
truly
like
a
diverse
and
committed
group
of
people.
H
I
would
be
happy
to
offer
my
my
input
as
a
you
know,
a
scholar,
someone
who
can
assist
in
research-
I
don't
you
know,
I'm
coming
at
it
relatively.
H
A
A
I
yeah
I
I
had
put
it
on
the
agenda
when
we're
with
among
the
projects
we're
going
to
be
working
on
and
where
we
need
people.
So
if
you
want
to
think
about
it
for
a
few
minutes
and
we'll
we'll
go
on
with
the
agenda
till
we
get
to
c
or
d,
which
is
all
of
these
sort
of
committees
that
have
been
working.
D
I'd
like
to
second
kind
of
mara's
thought
on
that.
I
think
that
if
I
don't
think
we
should
put
money
into
this,
so
I
don't
think
we
should
be
using
any
consultants
that
we
are
expending
expenditures
on
when
we're
doing
this
initial
conversation,
especially
the
parks
department,
has
to
be
interested
in
making
this
a
pocket
park.
I
I
think
lawrence
crossley.
I
think
it's
a
fantastic
idea
and
I
do
think
it's
one
of
ours.
D
You
know
our
famed
city
residents,
who
is
integral
to
the
formation
of
palm
springs
as
the
city
that
it
is
now.
I
think
it's
a
great
tribute
to
him.
I
really
think
because
this
this
neighborhood
there's
been
a
lot
of
angst
with
the
neighborhood
that
the
neighbors
you
know
that
the
this
neighborhood
is
forgotten
by
the
city
and
the
residents
of
this
neighborhood.
D
D
I
I
really
highlight
mara's
comments
about
young
families.
It
is
a
neighborhood
where
housing
is
cheaper
than
the
rest
of
the
city,
so
it
is
a
neighborhood
with
small
children,
but
it's
also
a
neighborhood.
That's
you
know
it's
been
there
for
a
long
time,
so
I
think
older
residents.
There
would
really
have
great
things
to
contribute
right
about
the
you
know,
their
interactions
actually
with
lawrence
crossley
or
how
they.
You
know
how
that
neighborhood
is
fit
into
the
city.
D
All
this
time
and
and
tell
that
story,
I
think
that
would
be
really
important
to
get
have
neighborhood
input.
You.
A
We
can't
do
anything
until
we
make
some
contact
with
the
parks
department,
yeah
yeah,
I'm
just
saying
you
see
it
there.
Luckily,
there
are
two
members
of
the
parks
commission
who
volunteered
to
work
with
the
commissioners
who
are
working
on
mini
grants
and
benches
and
whatever
representing
the
parks
department,
so
that
in
either
case
it
doesn't
have
to
go
to
either
full
commission
unless
it's
a
big
expenditure
now.
D
That's
what
I
I
mean
that
what
I'm
saying
is
that
a
lot
of
times
we
do
things
from
the
top
down
to
city
residents
here
and
a
lot
of
times.
We
don't
right,
but
a
lot
of
times,
there's
things
that
are
presented
like
a
feyer,
complete
and
and
city
residents
aren't
in
on
the
conversation
from
the
very
beginning.
D
So
I
would
say
before
even
you
know,
the
parks
department
says
they
want
to
make
a
park
or
not
want
to
make
a
park
that
reaching
out
to
that
neighborhood
like
re,
reaching
out
to
them
again
and
engaging
them.
I
think,
is
critical
because
it's
a
very
small
neighborhood
and
anybody
coming
to
that
park
that
doesn't
live
there
is
going
to
be
driving
in
into
that
neighborhood
and
parking
there,
because
there's
obviously
no
problem.
You
know
maybe
there's
a
few
parking
spots.
A
A
Yes,
okay,
at
this
point,
what
it
means
is
just
trying
to
get
the
equivalent
presentation
to
the
parks,
commission
and
paul,
hopefully
they'll,
invite
you
to
a
meeting
and
then
all
we
need
is
a
couple
of
people
from
arts
and
parks,
and
then
we
can
put
into
play
all
these
ideas
of
that.
The
planning
committee
should
have
more
representation
that
you
know
just
a
plan
to
do
this,
but
right
now
it's
it's
just
an
idea
that
we,
like
the
art,
part
of
it,
but.
H
Can
we
make
a
motion
just
in
support
of
it?
Is
that
or
make
some
kind
of
statement
or
recommendation
in
support
of
the
the
idea.
D
A
A
Does
anyone
want
to
add
to
that
sentiment
just
that
we
think
it's
a
terrific
idea
because
of
where
it
is
and
who
it
might
serve
and
what
it
might
present
about.
Lawrence
cosley
in
the
city.
F
Yeah
I'd
like
I
just
I
agree
with
everyone
else.
I
think
it's
a
great
location.
I
think
again,
you
know
it's
not
a
park
yet,
but
it's
a
great
place
for
a
park
and
and
again
this
would
be
a
great
example
of
the
type
of
project
where
the
arts
commission
could
really
work
with
like
a
consultant
who
comes
in
who
consults
with
the
neighborhood,
who
talks
to
the
neighborhood
about
what
they
want.
You
know
where
it's
a
real,
like
tracy,
said:
community
driven
art
resource,
as
opposed
to
some.
F
A
It
does,
I
think,
will
lend
itself
to
the
kind
of
context
that
shonda's
trying
to
do
with
the
bench
at
james,
o,
jesse
and
section
14.,
so
that,
if
you
you
start
wandering,
I
mean
among
these
art
panels
or
whatever
they
are,
but
there's
a
qr
code
that
will
take
you
to
places
that
have
a
lot
more
information
than
on
a
on
a
piece
of
art.
And
if
you
remember
the
same
was
true:
the
idea
that
the
group
that
wanted
an
aids
memorial
was
also
that
the
piece
would
be
representational.
A
E
Hi
paul
so
good
to
see
you
thank
you
for
presenting
who
presented
this
to
the
lawrence
crossley
neighborhood
association,
their
committee
over
there.
C
C
E
C
And
it
was
also
provided
to
lisa
middleton
at
that
time,
because
she
made
the
announcement.
It
wasn't
her,
making
the
request
other
than
announcing
that
if
anyone's
got
some
suggestions
to
memorialize
the
story
around
mr
crossley
to
submit
them.
So
we
did
that
and
enough.
We
never
heard
anything
back
about
this
or
any
other,
and
we
really
didn't
want
to
see
this.
This
just
die
somewhere
on
a
shelf
or
a
virtual
shelf
somewhere.
E
The
other
part
of
my
question
is
is
now
that
the
tamarisk
trees
have
been
removed.
If
you
look
on
the
aerial
shots,
it
looks
like
the
city
could
connect
this
to
be
a
road,
so
there
would
be
an
entrance
in
and
out
of
it
or
is
that
a
wash?
Are
they
not
able
to
make
a
separate
entrance
go
into
the
name?
That's
the
golf.
D
A
C
A
Out
of
here,
what
I
think
you
can
do
is
that
you
can
tell
the
parks,
commission
and
the
lawrence
crossley
neighborhood
and
lisa
middleton.
It's
her
district
right.
C
No
actually
it's
two
districts,
it's
grace
garners
district
one
and
it's
christy
holstadge
district
four,
and
they
also
received
this
at
the
same
time
that
your
commission
and
the
parks
and
rec
commission
received
it.
They
they
were
cc'd
on
it.
I
think
jase
has
the
original
email.
A
D
Yeah,
I
think
we
should.
I
think
there
isn't
there
a
meeting
like
maybe
the
it's
next
week,
so
maybe
you
could
get
it
on
the
agenda.
You
know
if
you
need
someone
to
go
to
the
meeting
I'll
go
with
you.
I
think
it's
a
great
idea,
I'm
really
familiar
with
this
area
and
we
don't
have
any
pocket
parks
in
town.
Really.
We
have
that
little
one
little
one,
so
I
think
we
need
more.
A
D
C
Right
jay,
do
you
know
who
the
chair
of
the
parks,
commission
parks
and
rec
is
now?
I
know
it
used
to
be
less
than
when
he
ran
for
city
council.
He
stepped
down.
C
A
And
that's
why
I'm
I'm
going
to
also
suggest
that
you
touch
base
with
patrick
sheehan
who's
on
this
call,
because.
A
A
A
A
Just
really
one
thing
to
report:
if
you
remember
at
the
last
meeting,
we
discussed
the
proposal
from
the
museum
to
be
open
from
fridays
from
three
to
five,
because
if
they
open
it
all,
they
won't
be
open.
A
On
thursday
nights
and
various
people
came
in
with
suggestions
of
translating
their
materials
into
spanish
to
make
them
more
accessible,
working
on
making
museum
way,
an
art
walk,
which
is
what
it's,
the
city's
decided
they're,
going
to
close
it
off
we're
installing
the
la
brea
sculpture,
we're
helping
them
do
that
it's
only
taken
a
year,
but
in
any
case
I
sent
out
their
proposal.
A
A
A
A
A
Kind
of
a
stopping
place
along
the
way
it's
the
city
manager
feels
that
it
is
theirs
to
approve
even.
A
And
and
the
website
we
can
make
sure
it
says
the
word
website.
Their
feeling
was
that
they
would
start
small.
I
did,
however,
talk
to
grace
garner,
who
led
the
the
effort
to
get
the
city's
website
translated
into
spanish
and
she's.
Given
me,
and
I
gave
the
museum
the
name
of
the
consultant-
that
works
with
organizations
to
do
this,
and
if
you've
noticed
everything
from
the
city
is
now
bilingual.
A
D
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
right,
you
know
not
at
you
know
the
whole
reason
behind
giving
them
this
money.
This
way
was
to
make
the
museum
more
accessible
to
more
communities,
and
if
you
know
someone
in
coachella
a
kitten
coachella
can't
come
to
the
museum
and
only
speak
spanish.
Then
it
doesn't
help
them
at
all
right.
So
if
they
could
make
sure
that
content
is
done
on
the
website,
you
know
in
conjunction
or
earlier
right.
D
So
it's
it's
like
during
this
covet
period,
right
or
they're,
sending
out
you
know,
they're
doing
outreach
in
spanish.
So
I
think
something
has
to
be
in
there
that
this
is.
You
know
this
was
the
reason
behind
it.
We
you
know-
and
I.
H
H
D
H
I'm
just
saying
I
don't,
I
think
it's
best
for
us
to
you
know
to
this
is
something
that
I
think
we
can
follow
up
with
again
next
year
and
sort
of
request,
a
report
on
the
kind
of
bilingual
access
that
they've
been
providing,
and
you
know,
support
their
efforts
in
doing
that.
I
just
at
a
certain
point
I
think
you
know
I
would
just
love
to
see
this
support
be
given
to
the
museum
this
this
calendar
year.
A
And
they
do
they
do
they
are
committed
to
doing
the
website,
but
I
think
they
don't
want
to
over
promise
because
they've
laid
off
most
of
their
staff
and
they
don't
know
when
they're
going
to
be
able
to
reopen
again.
So
there's
a
lot
of
there's,
there's
very
few
people
there
who
can
work
on
this.
D
Yeah
I
understand
that
this
was
what
was
brought
to
us.
That's
why
I'm
saying
like
we
had
agreed
upon
it
and
it's
not
there.
If
they
had
just
said,
could
you
give
us
a
grant
for
50
000?
I
would
have
been
fine
with
that,
but
then
they
put
it
into
this
translating
thing
to
to
do
outreach,
which
I
think
is
really
you
know
needed
and
fantastic.
D
D
D
A
So
the
the
three
contracts
for
well.
Let
me
back
up
my
goal
today
was
to
set
us
up
so
that
we
could
keep
operating
the
way
we've
been
operating
with
our
mini
grants
through
the
end
of
june,
because
first
of
all,
dr
reddy
is
leaving
and
he's
been
the
one
in
a
lot
of
cases
who
has
not
not
so
much
dr
reddy,
but
cindy
has
worked
up
these
contracts
for
us
and
dr
reddy
said
that
he
could.
He
could
continue
a
contract.
A
I
think
taking
a
fair
amount
of
time,
would
anyone
like
to
comment
on
my
I'll
make
it
a
motion
that
we
extend
these
contracts
with
the
small
raises.
A
D
D
I
don't
think
we
should.
We
should
vote
on
each
one
of
these.
I
think
we
should
vote
on
them
separately
and
I
I
don't
think
we
should.
I.
I
have
a
real
issue
with
hiring
someone
patrick
for
twenty
thousand
dollars
when
we
have
not
followed
what
we
had
voted
on
in
the
summer
and
we
do
not
have
the
ability
to
do
big
programs
with
kids
at
the
moment
to
interact
with
them
in
parks
or
wherever
to
get
them
engaged
in
the
yards.
D
I
think
we're
you
know
if
we
want
to
go
through
with
that,
I
think
we
should
wait
until
we
have
things
more
open
with
coveted
restrictions
listed
lifted,
because
I
don't
think
it's
really
fair
to
like
not
have
like.
If
we're
trying
to
do
things
with
kids
in
parks,
I
think
it
should
be
open
to
lots
of
kids
to
have
this
ability
to
do
this.
These
projects,
and
not
just
a
few
select
kids
like
one
kid
here
and
one
kid
there.
B
A
D
A
D
This
just
on
this.
A
D
With
some
photos
in
it,
so
I
don't
understand
why
you
know
sarah's
been
working
for
us
for
all
these
years.
She
does
a
ton
of
work
way
more
than
she's
paid
for
and
and
we're
going
to
pay,
patrick
almost
the
same
amount
of
money.
For
I
don't
know
what
and
and
that's
not
we
we
voted
that
he
would
be.
He
would
be
reporting
to
the
entire
commission,
not
one
person,
not
two
person.
He
was
supposed
to
report
to
the
entire
commission
and
we've
had.
D
That
and
when
we
voted
on
it
when
we
voted
on
it,
it's
in
the
minutes.
We
voted
that
he
would
report
to
us
before
he
went
forward
with
any
project,
and
I
have
mentioned
this
a
number
of
times
at
the
meetings
and
we've
never
had
a
report.
He
was
supposed
to
report
last
meeting.
He
didn't.
We
were
supposed
to
get
a
report
from
him
and
all
we
did
today
was
get
a
report
with
photos
in
it.
So
you
know
how
many
kids
have
we
reached?
D
What
has
the
project
cost?
What
has
the
budget
been?
We
have
no
materials,
and
I
I
seriously
don't
do
not
think
it's
responsible
for
us
to
move
forward
with
paying
someone
who
is
not
a
commissioner
he's
not
on
a
commission
to
be
on
all
of
these
committees.
He
already
has
been
a
commissioner
he's
timed
out
and
I
I
I
just
don't
get
it
I'm
confused
and
I
don't
understand
all.
A
Right,
can
you
see,
let's
does
anyone
else,
have
a
comment
about
this.
H
I
just
want
to
reiterate
I
I
do
recall
that
we
like
this
idea
of
what
patrick
does
with
kids
and
we
were
going
to
revisit
this
to
see.
H
If
the
you
know,
schools
were
reopened
and
there
was
more
opportunity
for
that
kind
of
engagement,
and
I
would
just
simply
propose
that
we,
you
know,
don't
don't
want
to
shut
this
down,
but
just
that
we
wait
until
the
end
of
the
school
year
to
reassess
the
possibilities
of
working
with
coachella,
art
and
patrick
to
you
know,
really
engage
him
in
the
kinds
of
projects
and
the
student
engagement
that
we
were
really
excited
about.
So
that's
what
I
would
propose.
I
I
also
agree.
H
I
don't
think
it's
a
good
use
of
our
money
right
now,
especially
when
we're
working
on
all
these
other
mini
grant
projects,
and
I
just
I
I
was
really
excited
about
about
that
youth
component,
which
I
think
you
know.
Patrick's
organization
has
a
lot
of
experience
in
in
doing
and-
and
I
guess
I
I
really
hesitate
about
continuing
the
contract
when
we
know
that
our
our
kids
aren't
allowed
to
to
go
because
you
know
to
be
out
there.
A
Response
that
what
we
know
that
the
kids
have
been
mostly
unavailable,
but
what
patrick
has
been
able
to
do
is
develop
a
working
relationship
with
the
parks
department,
which
is
has
been
difficult
and
that
I
feel
it's
very
important
to
what
we
do.
I
mean
if
we're
going
to
go
talk
about
lawrence
cosley
art
park.
A
D
Well,
we're
not
seeing
any
of
this.
Like
you
know,
I've
asked
if
cynthia
could
come
to
our
meeting
and
and
tell
us,
you
know
like
say
hey.
This
is
something
we
want
to
do.
I
mean
there's
a
gigantic
vortex
of
non-communication
here
and-
and
this
was
supposed
to
be
a
pilot,
so
I
think
we
need
some
metrics
for
the
pilot.
I
had
said
that
I
supported
engaging
kids,
I'm
totally
for
engaging
kids
and
everything,
but
I
I
also
said
because
of
cobid.
We
should
wait
on
this
until
the
next
till
2021.
D
and
I
strongly
believe
until
kids
are
able
to
participate.
I
don't
think
it's
fair
to
children
in
this
community
that
they
don't
have
the
same
access
to
be
able
to
do
programming
that
we
pay,
for.
I
think
it
should
be
really
open
to
kids
to
be
able
to
so
yeah.
Maybe
what
mara
says
like
for
next
summer?
D
We
set.
You
know
we
set
up
something
ahead
of
time,
so
we
know
like
we
can
engage
kids.
Maybe
it's
part
of
the
parks
department
summer
camp-
I
you
know,
that's
like
a
really
great
idea,
but
just
to
have
someone
kind
of
on
a
retainer,
for
you
know
doing
projects
that
really
aren't
reaching
kids.
I
you
know,
that's
not
what
we
had.
We
had
agreed
to.
A
D
A
Let's
give
patrick
a
minute,
I
finally
got
this
thing
on
the
screen
just
to
run
through
some
of
the
projects
and
how
they
came
about
who
you
worked
with
to
do
them.
G
Thanks
and
everybody
can
hear
me-
okay
great,
I
definitely
appreciate
all
your
comments.
I
mean
I
have
been
submitting
detailed
reports
to
chair
sheffer
and
to
cindy
at
the
city,
so
I
guess
that
was
lost
in
translation
for
me
coming
before
you
each
month
and
talking
about
the
specific
projects
which
I'm
certainly
happy
to
do,
maybe
not
at
this
meeting,
because
we're
constrained
with
time
but
yeah
I
mean
this
was
not
a
willy
nilly.
Just
I'm
going
to
go
out
and
paint
whatever
benches.
I
want
there's
also
an
important
component.
G
I
think
folks,
who
aren't
in
the
parks
at
these
sites
you're
missing,
is
that
this
does
touch
a
lot
of
of
the
patrons
who
come
to
these
parks,
including
children.
So,
yes,
I
was
had
some
serious
restrictions
with
but,
for
instance,
the
images
that
anne's
showing
now
the
work
that
I
did
that
we
did
over
at
the
pavilion.
G
You
know
I
was
there
for
a
month
and
a
half
painting
six
benches
and
you
know,
got
tons
of
community
comments
and
thanks
and
where
are
you
going
next?
We
love
these
benches
were
horrible.
This
place
was
disgusting
before
now.
It's
colorful
and
lively.
Thank
you.
G
I
mean
I
I
wish
some
of
you
could
have
been
there
to
to
hear
some
of
the
great
comments
from
from
the
swimmers
from
the
park
walkers
from
the
staff
from
moms
and
strollers,
I
mean
it
would
really,
even
though
it
seems
like
we
didn't
work
with
tons
of
kids,
we
definitely
had
a
lot
of
people
in
the
in
our
city,
appreciative
of
the
work
that
we
did
this
this
particular
bench
here
in
sunrise
park,
the
red,
white
and
blue
bench
really
got
a
lot
of
great
a
lot
of
foot
traffic
in
the
morning.
G
There's
senior
senior
groups
that
do
tai
chi
right
in
this
little
area
that
we're
following
my
you
know
our
progress
each
day.
G
So,
yes,
I
would
have
loved
to
have
more
kids
involved,
but
obviously-
and
maybe
things
will
change
sooner
than
later-
with
the
vaccine,
but
you
know
I
certainly
didn't
look
at
this
as
some
way
to
cash.
In
on
the
city,
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
went
into
all
of
these
projects
and
it
was
really
further.
You
know
it's
to
me.
G
It
kind
of
dovetailed
with
all
the
other
work
that
the
commissioners
and
the
commission
did
this
year
with
the
downtown
benches,
with
what
russell
was
doing
and
with
what
tyson
was
doing
and
what
shonda
did
up
at
the
with
james,
oh
jesse.
So
to
me,
it
all
dovetailed
really
nicely
into
a
very
cohesive
package
that
the
citizens
of
our
city
could
see
during
you
know
a
very
difficult
time
to
see
people
out,
beautifying
the
city
and
the
parks.
I
mean
some
of
these
benches.
G
D
G
Well,
it
was
more,
it
is
more
of
the
same
I
mean
there.
There
are
four
to
six
benches
at
every
park
in
the
city
that
are
in
you
know
in
in
need
of,
are
terribly
scratched
up,
graffitied
and
that
need
beautification.
So
you
know,
I
guess
I
I
guess
the
project
sort
of
morphed
into
a
beautification
project
where
you
know
all
of
the
funds
that
are
raised
through
coachella
art.
We
are
a
100
volunteer
organization.
G
All
get
passed
back
to
students
in
palm
springs,
unified
school
district
in
the
form
of
art
supplies.
I
mean
that's,
that's
kind
of
been
the
way
the
organization
sort
of
pivoted
this
year,
because
I
couldn't
work
at
schools
with
kids
at
murals
was
basically
the
the
money
raised
for
these
projects.
G
I
would
help
support
schools
in
palm
springs,
unified
with
art
supplies.
D
Well,
why
don't
you?
Why
don't
you
give
us
a
proposal
instead
of
just
asking
us
to
extend
a
contract
with
no
okay?
Okay,
why
don't
you
give
us
a
proposal
and
come
back
in
january
and
say
this
is
the
you
know?
This
is
what
I
would
like
to
propose
to
do
from
january
until
june,
because
it's
really
this
is
this
project
has
not
turned
into
it's,
not
what
we
had.
D
We
had
voted
on
or
what
we
had
really
thought
that,
like
the
way
we
want
to
engage
the
community,
so
this
is
kind
of
a
different
project
so
that
you
know,
I
think
you
should
write
up
a
proposal.
I
mean
I
don't
know.
D
Might
not
agree
with
it,
but
write
up
a
proposal
is
what
you'd
like
to
do
as
a
project.
I
think
that
might
be
an
easier
way
to
have.
You
know,
communication
and,
and-
and
you
know,
have
us
see
like
how
this
pilot
project.
A
Let's,
let
me
back
up
a
little
bit.
Okay,
I
am
making
this
proposal
because
I
have
spent
the
last
six
months
and
the
last
five
years
trying
to
find
a
way
to
pay
artists
and
the
people
who
are
working
on
this
through
the
city
system.
A
We
finally
agreed
on
it
on
these
over
arching
contracts
that
still
have
to
be
reported
project
by
project
and
hour
by
hour,
and
I'm
concerned
that,
if
we
don't
do
this,
we
will
never
be
able
to
do
it
because
the
world
is
changing
so
quickly.
We're
not
getting
through.
This
we've
done
an
enormous
amount
with
our
mini
grants,
but
we
rely
on
these
three
contractors
to
make
things
happen.
So
I
I
would
like
to
put
it
up
for
a
vote.
You're
welcome
to
vote
it
down.
A
If
that's
the
way
you
feel
but
and
I'm
happy
to
do
them
separately.
So
the
first
one
is.
I
would
like
to
propose
that
we
ask
that
sarah's
contract
be
extended
through
june
30th
2021,
with
a
raise
of
five
dollars
an
hour
which
is
on
the
proposal
that
I
did
do.
I
have
a
second.
A
Thank
you
all
in
favor,
any
opposed.
A
Okay,
I'm
going
to
the
next
one
is
madeleine
garza,
also
through
june
30th,
and
remember
all
their
contracts
right
now
go
through
december
31st.
A
D
B
I
I
don't
know
about
that.
I
can
tell
you
that
matalina's
contract
actually
goes
through
january.
B
A
Okay,
may
I
have
a
second
on
extending
madeleine's
contract.
Oh.
B
A
There's
a
copy
of
the
of
the
proposed
scope
of
work,
which
is
very
broad,
but
each
section
each
month.
Everything
has
to
be
reported
by
the
hour
and
by
what's
been
accomplished.
Is
there
a
second
on
extending
patrick.
B
I'll
second,
that
motion
with
the
provision
that
we
do
actually
see
reports
of
the
projects
because,
as
patrick
said,
I
was
happy
to
see
the
photos
today,
but
had
I
known
that
benches
were
being
painted
at
the
swim
club,
I
certainly
would
have
gone
over
to
see
them.
I
had
no
idea
so
just
as
long
as
we
know.
What's
going
on.
A
A
It's
through
june
30th,
but
it
you
know
it
varies
by
month
by
what.
B
A
H
A
B
D
F
A
Okay,
that's
shonda.
Did
you
vote.
B
E
Oh
here
I
am
I'm
just
a
little
bit
confused
the
10,
the
10
grand
that
we're
voting
for
is
that
to
pay
for
the
work
that
he's
already
done.
No,
no.
A
Actually,
this
contract,
if
it
is
for
ten
thousand
dollars,
does
not
have
to
go
to
city
council,
because
there
was
a
ten
thousand
dollar
contract
and
a
20
000
contract.
So
if
we
recommend
only
doing
20
000,
we
can
send
it
to
dr
reddy
to
sign
and
again
it's
not
a
lump
sum.
It's
what
projects
are
done
and
that
are
turned
in.
D
B
Because
I
think
it's
important
to
keep
the
structure
in
place,
knowing
that
patrick
is
not
going
to
run
out
and
spend
ten
thousand
dollars
he's
going
to
itemize,
as
he
is
already
reporting
it
to
the
chairperson
and
to
cindy.
If
we
also
see
that
reporting
of
how
much
money
is
being
spent,
knowing
that
from
the
first
pilot
project,
he
hasn't
even
spent
the
ten
thousand
dollars
that
we
agreed
upon
we're
going
to
see
the
results
of
what
he's
spending
and
we
can
amend
it
at
any
time
once
the
contract
is
in
place.
H
A
It's
new
money,
which
is
to
say
any
of
these
contracts,
are
we're
in
the
same
fiscal
year,
but
it's
an
extension
of
the
contract
and
in
the
case
of
patrick,
if
it's
for
ten
thousand
dollars,
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
the
city
council.
So
the
date,
the
timing
is
not
as
important.
A
A
And
request
that,
at
the
same
time
that
the
reports
go
to
cindy,
they
go
to
the
rest
of
the
commission
just
so
that
everyone
can
see
what
has
been
going
on.
And
if
you
remember,
we
said
that
if,
if
two
members
of
the
parks
department
would
work
with
two
members
of
the
commission,
that
would
be
sufficient,
because
none
of
these
projects
are
any
bigger
than
a
single
bench
project.
Downtown.
I
mean
we're
we're
doing
all
the
mini
grants
on
the
basis
of
at
least
two
commissioners,
which
we
don't
need
so
not
to
belabor.
This.
A
I
would
make
that
motion
for
ten
thousand
dollars.
Extension
is
their
second.
B
A
B
A
E
E
Just
saying
that,
I
think
the
whole
reservation
and
everything
is
just
the
checks
and
balances
that
when
you
leave
that
we
have
like
an
actual
checks
and
balances,
I
think
that's
where
the
the
hesitation
is
with
passing
this
through,
because
when
I
asked
patrick
for
you,
know
back
and
checks
and
balances
for
the
project
I
was
doing,
I
didn't
get
any
so
I'm
kind
of
like
I
I
haven't
seen
any.
This
is
the
first
time
I'm
seeing
the
full
thing
for
the
benches.
E
A
D
That's
why
I've
been
trying
to
put
this
out?
I
I
agree
with
you
totally
shonda,
so
yeah,
because
I
don't
think
we
have
the
transparency
that
we
requested
at
the
beginning
of
this.
That's
why
I'm
really
reticent
with
just
extending
something
when
someone
can
come
back
and
say
hey.
This
is
what
I'd
really
like
to
do.
I
don't.
I
don't
see
why
we
have
to
be
pushed
into
this
as
some
kind
of
emergency.
A
It's
not
an
emergency,
however,
none
of
what
we're
doing
since
we
are
volunteer.
Commissioners,
the
only
thing
that's
kept
us
going
is
these
three
people
and
their
contracts,
and
we
are
fortunate
that
we
we've
somehow
shaped
it
into
something
that
the
city
understands
and
is
it
can
pay
in?
You
know
upon
an
invoice
that
really
spells
out
what
they've
been
doing,
but
I
again
this
is
not
something
that
we
need
to
be
labor
now
jay.
A
Why
don't
you
make
that
a
an
a
roll
call
vote,
so
this
is
on
the
10
000
extension
of
the
contract.
That's
in
the
packet.
B
Okay,
commissioner
gladstone.
D
E
A
You
and
we
will
I-
I
will
talk
to
all
three
of
these
contractors
about
more
regular
reports
to
the
whole
commission,
but
they
are
doing
an
enormous
amount.
You
know
russell
gets
all
the
credit
for
the
benches,
but
there's
other
people
out
there.
You
know
in
the
hot
sun,
in
the
cold,
yeah.
B
A
And
we
do
we,
we
do
always
try
to
tell
madelaine,
and
there
are
you
know,
but
again,
remember
that
we
we
set
ourselves
up
for
mini
grants.
We
appropriated
thirty
thousand
dollars
in
february,
which
was
very
good
luck
because
it
was
just
before
we
had
to
stop
meeting.
I
asked
sarah
to
add
up
what
we
have
done
in
mini
grants
and
it
comes
to
just
under
twenty
five
thousand
dollars,
which
means
that
we
have
five
thousand
dollars
more
on
that
sort
of
appropriation.
A
If
we
want
to
think
of
it
that
way,
but
I
am
suggesting
that
we
appropriate
forty
five
thousand
dollars
more
for
many
grants
going
forward
and
we
may
or
may
not
use
that
much.
But
if
you
looked
at
madeleine's
report,
I
mean
it's
insane
what
we've
been
able
to
do
and
the
amount
of
attention
and
and
people
are
coming
up
and
saying
how
much
they,
like
the
benches,
how
much
they
like
the
store
windows-
and
you
know
the
pandemic's
not
over
yet
so.
A
But
we
are
the
only
comment
from
the
city
council
when
we
submit
these
reports
is:
why
are
we
doing
so
much
downtown?
Why
aren't
we
all
through
the
city
and
the
neighborhoods
and
the
parks,
and
so
I
think,
there's
there's
a
real
need
to
do
that,
even
though
we
have
a
lot
of
art
out
there,
we're
clearly
not
giving
it
the
same
attention.
A
So
this
is,
I
guess
we
could
vote
on
this,
that
we
it's
basically
put
aside
forty
five
thousand
dollars
for
mini
grants,
so
that,
if
cindy
asks
us
if
we
voted
on
these
mini
grants,
the
answer
is
yes
and
then
each
one.
A
A
Are
they
weren't
mini
grants?
They
were,
we
did
them
with
main
street,
which
is
the
business
organization,
and
we
did
first,
we
did
the
pilot
project
with
tyson
across
from
lulu's
in
that
park.
Then
we
did
10
benches
in
the
middle
of
palm
canyon.
A
A
You
know
benches
on
palm
canyon,
there
are
no
more
and
in
fact
sometimes
russell
goes
out
to
check
on
them
and
they've
taken
a
bench
away,
and
sometimes
they
put
a
bench
back,
it's
hard
to
keep
track
of,
but
this
last
contract,
the
chamber
of
commerce,
is
going
to
pick
up
just
paying
each
artist
because
it
was
a
lot
for
main
street
main
street
is
just
basically
joy.
A
A
So
any
other
comments
on
just
it's
we're
appropriating
it.
You
know
it's
like
we're,
not
spending
it
right
this
minute,
but
we're
giving
ourselves
a
pool
of
money.
F
I
yeah,
I
agree
with
it
in
principle
like,
but
I
I
do
agree
with
the
sentiment
that
we
should
look
at
some
projects
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
and
you
know
you
know,
I
don't
know,
I
guess.
Can
we
put
out
another
call
to
artists
like
for
local
proposals
or
something
on
our
website,
because.
G
D
Yeah
we
had
said
yeah-
maybe
we
can
be
at
their
like
january
meeting
and
give
them
pop
up
and
do
another
proposal
because
we
had
said
we'd
start
reaching
back
out
to
them
so
yeah.
I
could
definitely
do
that
in
january.
A
And
russell's
actually
had
some
inquiries
from
other
business
districts
than
town
like
sunny
dunes,
yeah.
B
I
wanted
to
say
if
we
can.
Second,
this
motion
and
move
along
and
just
tell
the
city
council
that
we
had
to
start
somewhere
with
this
project
and
yes,
we've
successfully
done
downtown
yeah.
I'm
in
discussion
with
people
of
warm
sands
we've
reached,
went
from
downtown
to
arenas.
We
did
art
activations
there,
so
we
are
branching
out
and
just
allotting.
H
I
support
this
too,
and
I
just
want
to
mention
that
moving
forward
in
the
year
years
ahead,
I'm
reminded
of
something
that
one
of
the
consultants
we
talked
about,
that
you
know
a
lot
of
times,
artists,
sort
of
self-select
in
in
applying,
and
we
this
may
be
a
good
opportunity
to
cultivate
artists
who
may
be
a
bit
shy,
may
not
have
so
much
experience
in
doing
street
art
or
more
public
art,
and
I
would
encourage
us
to
like
sort
of
think
a
little
bit
differently
about
this
moving
forward.
E
I
think
I've
reached
out
to
oneplus
communications
and
I
made
them
aware
of
the
the
box
that
I
would
be
reaching
out
to
them
and
the
neighborhood
so
tracy.
I
would
like
to
accompany.
A
D
B
A
A
A
B
A
Any
opposed,
okay,
we're
set
with
that
now.
The
last
thing
that
we
really
have
to
vote
on
is
we
had
a
presentation
from
desert
x
about
the
project
that
they
are
proposing
to
do
on
the
chocolate
medium,
which
goes
also
towards
our
the
request
by
city
council.
Would
we
please
put
something
on
the
chocolates
median.
H
And-
and
we
do
have
the
curators
from
desert
x,
who
just
entered
the
zoo
meeting?
Oh
good,
okay,.
A
Good
timing,
why
can
I
not
get
this
to
go.
A
It's
been
amended,
this
is
same.
D
A
B
A
Yeah
and
this
proposal
has
been
sort
of
looked
at
by
the
city
council
and
by
marcus
fuller,
who
is
not
only
the
assistant
city
manager
but
chief
engineer,
and
there
were
some
concerns
that
the
banners
were
too
tall.
A
A
This
is
being
reviewed
by
the
engineering
department
with
marcus
and
isn't
going
to
go
anywhere
until
they're
satisfied,
but
they
are
asking
us
if
we
recommend
doing
this
proposal,
putting
these
sculptures
on
the
chocolate's
median
number
one,
and
we
had
said
that
we
would
pay
the
costs
of
installing
them
on
our
pads,
not
making
them,
but
just
installing
them
in
a
way
that
makes
the
city
engineer
happy
and
marcus
asked
us
to.
Please
confirm
that
we
would
pay
for
them.
So
basically,
let
me
see
if
I
can
do
this.
The
resolution
is.
A
A
B
I'm
caesar
garcia
and
neville
neverson
and
caesar
this
is
caesar,
and
yes,
the
the
there
are
six
pads
and
the
the
revised
proposal
just
to
make.
You
know,
because
I
was
with
on
the
call
which
anyone
we
presented
it-
that
nothing
has
changed
in
terms
of
theme
and
concept
for
the
project.
B
The
adjustments
that
have
been
made
per
recommendation
of
the
city
engineer
were
just
to
make
sure
that
they
could
actually
that
the
work
could
actually
exist
in
the
in
the
in
the
media
and
so
the
artist
modified
scale
specifically
for
this
site.
So
so
what
the
the
modifications
and
differences
you're
looking
at
are
just
in
relationship
to
adjusting
the
artwork
so
that
it
can
be
safely
installed
and
sort
of.
At
the
recommendation
of
the
engineer.
F
And
how
long
will
will
the
pieces
we
had
talked
about
at
the
previous
meeting,
the
artist
letting
the
pieces
stay
up
for
longer
than
desert
x,
like
sort
of
on
a
long-term
loan
or
something.
B
The
artist
loves
the
idea,
so
if
the
city
would
host
it,
we,
the
artist,
is
more
than
happy
to
have
the
installation
stay
on
we'll
be
on
desert
x.
A
Now
it's
a
little
bit
tight
because
the
city
council
will
not
meet
again
until
january
14th,
but
desert
x
is
working
very
closely
with
marcus
so
that
by
then
it
will
be
ready
to
go.
It
will
be
approved
at
the
staff
level,
but
so
marcus
asked
us
to
here's
the
resolution.
He
wanted
us
to
say
that
we
recommend
approval
of
the
installation
on
this
this
site
and,
secondly,
we
will
pay
for
the
installation
costs
and
he
suggested
just
say
up
to
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
they.
A
You
know
it
could
be
more,
it
could
be
less,
but
the
the
city
is
going
to
have
a
lot
of
concern
about
the
safety
or
the
legal
aspects
of
it.
So.
D
A
There's
some
sort
of
a
licensing
agreement
that
they,
the
city,
does
with
the
artist
or
with
desert
x,
but
that's
up
to
the
city
attorney.
The
safety
reasons
have
to
do
with
the
concern.
That's
already
really
been
met,
which
was
whether
they
were
so
big
that
they
would
blow
into
the
drive
it
into
the
traffic
pattern,
and
the
city
council
raised
that
and
marcus
raised,
that
with
neville
and
with
the
artist
and
they've
been
scaled
down.
A
It
doesn't
go
outside
of
the
city.
So
it's
just
a
budget
entry,
but
marcus
is
he
feels
this
can
be
done
as
long
as
we
are
recommending
that
this
piece
go
there
and
we'll
pay
the
costs.
D
D
A
A
Okay,
we
can
do
that
jay
if
you'll,
just
when
we
go
to
send
this.
The
whole
thing
is
up
to
25.
H
I
mean
I
would
disagree
with
that.
I
would
disagree
with
that.
You
know
I
I
I
mean
I'm
only
speculating,
but
it
seems
like
the
you
know,
we
approved
a
similar
amount
for
a
single
installation,
the
gonzalo
libria
in
the
amount
of
twenty
five
thousand
dollars.
I
mean
that's
a
realistic
number
legal
fees.
H
H
I
just
I
just
I
feel
like
I
need
to
just
say.
I
think
this
is
a
really
wonderful
project.
I
know
I'm
a
little
biased,
but
I
think
it
captures
like
a
story
that
we're
all
we're
all
kind
of
been
struggling
with,
which
is
like.
D
A
conflict
of
interest
right
now,
you
you
can't
talk
about
the
project
if
you're
working
for
desert
x,
okay,
all
right,
so
I
I'm
not
disagreeing
with
the
project
at
all.
I
think
it's
great.
I
just
want
an
idea
of
something
that's
not
open-ended
as
a
fee
that
we
come
back
and
it's
a
much
greater
fee
than
we
thought.
So
if
we
need
more
money
to
put
at
it,
that's
one
thing:
yeah.
B
A
F
B
Chair
marcus
fuller's
joined
the
meeting-
oh
lovely,
you
know,
maybe
you
could
put
that
email
message
back
up,
so
we
could
look
at
that
language.
A
Yes,
okay,
oh
dear.
F
F
Like
is
there
money
in
there
to
maintain
like
do
these?
Banners
have
to
be
replaced
every
few
months.
I
remember
we
had
the
other
desert
x
piece
right
with
the
those
posters
had
to
be
replaced
in
the
bus,
shelters
and
things.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
address
that,
knowing
that
that's
going
to
be
coming
up
at
some
point
right.
B
I
can
speak
to
the
to
the
flag
maintenance,
because
we've
we've
thought
about
that.
The
project
was
actually
once
we
we
went
into
looking
at
the
at
the
platforms,
and
you
know
the
project's
been
really
adapted
and
very
much
actually
reduced
the
skill
by
almost
50
in
terms
of
banners
to
make
it
safe
and
meet
the
requirements.
B
The
artist
is
confident
in
terms
of
the
production
of
the
flags.
He
made
a
similar
banner
for
the
crystal
bridges
museum
in
arkansas
that
was
outdoors
and
used
the
material
tests
for
that
piece
to
base
what
he's
going
to
produce
here
and
we
are
producing
two
replica
banners
for
each
of
the
stations,
anticipating
that
you
know
in
the
event
that
you
know
one
there's
a
really
intense
windstorm
and
it
moves,
then
we
have
a
backup
banner
for
it.
So
we
we've
planned
for
a
double
replacement.
D
So,
maybe
that's
great,
so
maybe
we
put
on
there
a
time
frame
and
we
add
a
little
bit
of
funding
so
go
up
to
30
grand
in
case
we
have
these
unforeseen
costs
and
to
kind
of
include
that
safety
issue
we
had.
You
know
we
had
banners
totally
fo,
you
know
the
the
sun
and
the
wind
and
everything
is
so
hard
on
everything
here.
So
we
had.
You
know
we
did
a
bunch
of
banners
last
year
that
that
you
know
they
ripped
in
this
huge
windstorm
very
quickly.
D
After
we
put
them
up
so
yeah,
you
definitely
will
need
replacements
for
them.
But
if,
if
the
material
kind
of
is
graded
to
last
six
six
to
12
months,
then
maybe
we
should,
you
know,
try
to
have
them
for
a
year
at
least
six
months.
It
would
be
great
to
have
something
on
those
pads.
F
So,
while
you're
looking,
I
just
want
to
again,
I
agree
with
the
other
commissioners
who
said
you
know
I
I
like
the
idea
of
supporting
desert
x.
Of
course
we
want
them
to
do
a
major
piece
in
palm
springs
and
it
would
be
great
to
see
a
piece
on
the
median,
and
so
whatever
you
know,
just
whatever,
subject
to
whatever
the
engineering
department
decides,
I
think
it's
a
nice
idea
to
go
forward
with
this.
A
It
was
25
and
I'm
sorry,
I'm
just
thinking.
Okay,
okay,.
B
A
B
25
000
just
for
the
installation
in
order
to
be
able
to
adapt
what
the
artwork
is,
which
are
the
horses
and
the
banners
and
to
adapt
them
to
fit
the
existing
pads,
along
with
its
25
000,
to
create
the
kind
of
base,
the
bolting
and
the
and
the
sort
of
new
poles
that
would
adapt
to
meet
the
space
requirements.
For
these
pads.
Okay,
yeah,
I
mean
what
I
think
we
can
do
is
you
can
recommend
what
you're
recommending
to
council
and
then
in
between
now
and
the
council.
B
B
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
set
a
maximum
threshold
if
the
installation
is
more
than
25,
but
I
think
we
have
time
between
now
and
when
we
get
the
council
to
probably
have
a
more
because
they're
going
to
need
to
put
this
in
by
february
right
exactly.
A
So
so,
actually
marcus,
why
don't
it's
up
to
you?
If
you
think
I
mean
it
probably,
is
better
to
have
a
little
bit
of
margin
before
it
goes
to
council,
so
yeah.
B
B
We
would
appreciate
the
consideration
of
a
contingency
because,
like
all
of
you
have
mentioned
with
public
art,
once
we
get
into
the
pads
and
begin
the
installation
process,
it
would
be
very
helpful
for
us
if
there
was
if
we
could
anticipate
for
anything
that
was
unforeseen.
That
will
happen
during
the
actual
physical
installation
process.
A
This
is,
I
mean
it's
very
exciting,
that
there
are
three
other
desert
x
projects
in
the
city
of
palm
springs,
but
they
are
on
private
property,
so
we're
not
as
involved
in
it,
but
this
is,
I
think,
is
going
to
be
really
one
of
their
major
projects
and
the
fact
that
the
that
we
are
supporting
it
and
and
helping
produce
it,
I
think,
is
what
we
should
be
doing
so
and
also,
even
though
she
can't
vote
mara
is
now
working
on
educational
programs.
A
Educational
outreach
for
desert
x
and,
I
think,
would
feel
perfectly
comfortable
tying
this
all
in
as
well
as
a
project
that
we've
been
involved
with.
So.
F
D
You
can't
comment
on
something
that
you're
you
are
working
for.
D
Yeah,
so
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
I
think
we
should
add
a
contingency,
so
whatever
people
think
is
a
good
one
I
will
go
with.
I
mean
I
thought
we
should
add
5
000.
If
it's
10,
you
know
which
is
in
the
budget.
That's
fine.
If
I
think
maybe
it
should
be
a
little
more
than
that,
but
I
do
think
desert
x
should
really
use
the
public
arts,
commission
and
its
materials.
D
You
know
the
public
arts
commission
of
the
city
of
palm
springs
that
were,
you
know,
sponsor
whatever
language.
It
is
sponsoring
this
piece
and,
and
I'm
sure
the
I
would
think
the
commission
as
a
whole.
I
know
mara,
would
obviously
would
love
to
help
in
the
education
of
this.
You
know
be
involved
in
the
education
programming
of
this
project,
so
I'm
really
excited
to
have
a
piece
on
the
pads,
because
I've
wanted
that
everything
that
was
on
the
commission.
G
C
A
Okay,
marcus.
Can
you
see
the
resolution
that
we
were
started
with?
Okay?
If
we
make
that
say,
we
will
pay
the
cost
of
installation
up
to
a
total
of
30
000,
including
any
costs
that
that
are
required
by
the
city,
for
example,
if
you
tell
us
we
have
to,
they
have
to
drill
down
further,
so
we'll
just
reword
this
to
say
that
it's
all
of
this
would
be
included
in
thirty
thousand
dollars
that
could
be
charged
to
our
budget.
B
A
But
if
you,
if
that
works
for
you,
then
I
would
like
a
motion
to
pass
this
resolution
with
the
change
that
it
says
up
to
thirty
thousand
dollars.
B
A
A
A
A
I
know
well,
everyone
else
has
the
christmas
tree.
It
looks
like
the
same
tree
too,
so
you
could
do
that
too.
All
right!
So
may
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
resolution
to
pass
this
piece
on
to
city
council
and
agree
to
pay
up
to
30
000
for
the
installation
of
it.
D
A
A
B
D
A
Please
keep
our
social
media
person
madelina,
you
know
with
pictures
and
times
that
she
could
come
and
photograph
the
installation
and
also
you
know
anything
that
you
want
to
send
to
the
whole
commission
an
update
or
invite
us
to
the
opening
or
whatever
we'd
be
happy
to
come.
Absolutely.
A
A
And
it
doesn't
have
to
be
in
the
first
day
of
the
park
either
the
park
designers
were
were
interested
in
the
idea
and
had
a
place
in
mind,
so
we
can
get
to
that.
We
can
get
to
that
later.
I
I
will
take
just
a
minute
if
there's
any
commissioner
comments
or
just
closing
closing
of
the
year
2020
remarks,
which
we
can't
wait
to
be
done
with,
and
it's
also
the
seventh
night
of
hanukkah
to.
D
Can
I
go
first
and
show
you
this
amazing
student
piece
just
because
I'm
so
excited
before
people
start
signing
off
to
show
it
to
you
guys
dude?
Could
you
show
it
jay?
D
So
sarah
and
I
have
been
doing
the
class
with
palm
springs
high
school
and
we
were
supposed
to
do
the
second
class
in
april,
but
because
of
covid
we
couldn't
do
it
and
the
teacher,
the
the
other
art
teacher,
wanted
to
do
this
class
so
badly.
So
we
proposed
to
do
it
over
zoom.
So
this
is
our
second
week
and
tomorrow
the
students
we
have
a
hundred
students
and
they
are
going
to
present
their
ideas.
But
this
is
a
sneak
peek.
D
We
don't
know
any
the
story
behind
this
or
anything
a
student
sent
it
to
the
teacher
for
feedback.
So
I
think
it's
wonderful.
I
don't
know
what
it
is
yet,
but
I
just
wanted
to
get
you
guys
all
excited,
because
the
the
ideas
be
the
students
ideas.
D
D
They
just
have
been
it's.
You
know,
it's
been
a
struggle
over
zoom,
but
it's
been
amazing.
Actually
it's.
We
do.
We've
done
four
hours
a
day
now
for
two
weeks
we
didn't
realize
at
first.
You
know
she
didn't
tell
us
at
first
it
was
a
hundred
students,
but
I'm
really
glad
that
we
were
able
to
do
this.
D
She
is
the
teacher
is
over
the
moon,
and
you
know:
we've
team
taught
this
class
throughout
and
given
them
inspiration
from
all
over
the
world
and
and
all
over
palm
springs
and
all
over
california-
and
it's
been
amazing,
so
we'll
report
out
what
our,
what
these
students
show
us
tomorrow
and
then
they're
going
to
submit
their
designs
over
the
holidays.
So
so.
A
Where
is
that?
What
what
is
she
proposing
it
to
be.
D
D
A
That's
great
all
right.
Anyone
else
just
want
to
send
us
off
with
something
upbeat,
yes
mara,
but.
H
Oh,
I
just
wanted
to
update
the
my
commissioners
that
I've
been
talking
with
some
artists
who
are
involved
in
bayern
nihon
desert,
which
is
the
filipino
community
art
activist
group,
in
based
kind
of
out
of
dumuth
park,
and
that
I'm
gonna
start
working
with
some
of
those
gather
some
ideas
for
some
potential
mural
projects
in
in
that
industrial
neighborhood
around
there.
So
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
so
yeah.
E
Wanted
everyone
to
be
aware
of
the
stop
in
the
name
of
love
traffic
box
project?
I
really
hope
we
are
able
to
get
some
really
amazing
artists
to
help
us
stop.
Traffic
in
prom
springs.
A
And
then
you
can
do
interviews
with
them,
which
have
been
extremely
past
popular,
so
many
people
have
commented
on
social
media
and
and
we're
getting
lots
and
lots
and
lots
of
page
likes.
I
see
madeleine
is
on
just.
Do
you
remember
offhand
how
many,
how
many
followers
we
have
it's
enormous?
I
think
it's
like.
G
E
So
yeah
it's
been
really
great
engagement
but
yeah.
I
would
thank
you
to
all
the
commissioners
that
have
helped
me
throughout
this
year,
get
up
on
my
feet
and
get
these
projects
off
the
ground.
I
really
appreciate
each
and
every
one
of
you-
and
I
hope
you
all
have
a
blessed
and
happy
wonderful,
happy
holiday
and
take
a
drink
for
me
on
my
birthday,
nye.
A
Really,
okay
and
here's
to
a
much
much
better
new
year.
Thank
you
all,
though
it's
been
a
great
year
for
the
commission
who
would
have
thought
that
a
pandemic
would,
you
know,
bring
out
all
this
talent
and
interest,
but
it's
great
and
I
think
we
helped
a
bit.
I
think
we
helped.
We
did
good
people,
some
positive
energy
downtown
and
I
hope
we
can
keep
doing
it.
So.
Thank
you
all
and
thank
you
cindy.