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From YouTube: City Council Meeting | June 5 2023
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Regular Meeting of the Palm Springs City Council, held Monday, June 5th, 2023
This meeting will also include a report on the City Council Closed Session Meeting of June 5th, 2023
A
We're
gonna
get
started
here,
I
think
do
we
have
all
of
our
see
our
staff
is
in
the
audience
right
now
so
I'm
trying
to
make
sure
we
have
everyone.
Are
we
still
waiting
for
our
city
manager
no
he's
over
there?
Scott
I
was
looking
for
you
this
whole
time,
okay,
fantastic,
so
good
evening.
Everyone
I
hereby
call
the
Palm
Springs
city
council
meeting
and
the
measure
J
commission
joint
meeting
of
June
5th
2023
to
order
and
I'd
like
to
welcome
Camila
Medina.
She
is
a
Cielo
Vista,
Charter
School
student
she's
in
seventh
grade.
A
She
loves
horseback
riding
competes
in
the
sport
of
escaramusa
and
has
traveled
as
far
away
as
San
Luis
Potosi
Mexico
for
competition
by
the
way
for
anyone
who
doesn't
know
what
that
is,
it's
like
a
horseback
riding
with
these
beautiful,
elaborate
costumes.
It's
gorgeous.
She
loves
to
read
and
is
very
dedicated
to
her
studies
and
would
like
to
be
a
lawyer,
and
she
will
lead
us
in
the
pledge.
B
I'm
deeply
honored
to
be
here
I'm
from
Philadelphia
Charter,
as
you
all
know,
and
we'll
be
doing
the
pledge
of
allegiance
now,
I
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag
of
the
United
States
of
America,
of
to
The
Republic,
to
which
it
stands,
one
nation
under
God,
individual
for
liberty
and
justice
for
all.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Everyone.
A
A
You
very
much
so
this
time
we
will
be
taking
public
testimony,
but
please
be
advised
at
this
public
testimony.
Time
is
for
our
measure,
J
joint
measure,
J
council
meeting.
That's
the
two
minutes
have
been
set
aside
for
each
speaker.
You're
asked
to
please
begin
your
time
by
telling
us
what
agenda
item
or
items
you're
speaking
about
and
the
public
hearing
items
will
be
taken
at
the
time
of
the
public
hearing,
and
we
will
open
this
time
again
when
we
move
on
to
our
official
council
meeting
foreign.
D
Madame
mayor
I
believe
we're
going
to
have
some
brief
remarks
by
chairperson
Soto,
followed
by
a
a
brief
report
on
the
work
of
the
measure
J
committee
by
our
finance
director,
Chris
Mooney,
and
then
we'll
open
up
dialogue
for
both
the
council
and
the
commission
to
discuss
their
their
recommendations.
Great.
E
Good
evening
Madam
mayor
city,
council,
City
staff
in
the
community,
on
behalf
of
my
colleagues
on
the
measure,
J
commission,
we
are
grateful
to
be
here
with
you
all
to
share
a
summary
of
our
collaborative
work
and
conversations
of
the
past
year.
The
measure
J
oversight
committee
is
an
important
body
that
reviews
monitors
and
makes
recommendations
for
millions
of
sales
tax
dollars.
The
2022
and
2023
fiscal
year
is
projected
to
have
a
revenue
of
22.2
million
dollars
fiscal
year.
24
is
projected
to
have
a
similar
revenue
of
22.5
for
context.
E
This
is
a
56
increase
from
when
I
joined
the
commission
during
the
2018-2019
fiscal
year
that
year
measure
J
had
14.2
million
dollars
in
Revenue.
Since
that
time
we
have
whether
the
global
pandemic
moved
to
a
districted
council
experience.
Multiple
changes
in
staff
leadership
built
a
new
downtown
park
even
made
Indian
Canyon
a
two-way
street.
In
short,
we
have
considered
funded
and
sometimes
dropped
a
plethora
of
projects.
E
I
say
this
all
because
together
Council
staff,
us
as
a
commission,
the
community,
we
really
felt
this
period
of
transition.
There's
been
a
lot
of
learning,
a
lot
of
patience
and
a
lot
of
understanding,
and
we
are
grateful
to
City
staff,
in
particular
engineering
finance
and
our
admin
support
with
Evelyn
Beltran,
who
have
guided
the
measure
J
Commission
in
this
period
of
really
substantial,
increased
Revenue
growth
in
this
post-cover
transition.
E
So
I
just
have
a
few
things.
I
kind
of
want
to
share
first
some
structured
communication
process
between
the
measure,
J,
commission
and
Council,
as
I
mentioned.
We're
so
grateful
to
be
here
and
to
have
staff
support
to
help
us
think
through
and
understand
these
challenges
of
various
infrastructure
projects
that
come
before
us.
However,
it
would
be
really
helpful
to
have
regular
established
interaction
with
Council
and
or
council
members,
I
think.
As
a
commission,
we
are
open
to
what
that
could
look
like
previously
in
Pre,
especially
pre-covered.
E
We
had
a
council
liaison
and
while
maybe
a
council
member
is
not
necessary
for
every
meeting.
Maybe
it's
once
a
quarter.
Maybe
it's
at
a
mid-year
fiscal
review
by
relying
only
on
this
June
budget
window
to
have
our
joint
meeting
with
you
all.
We
run
the
risk
of
not
knowing
where
our
Council
would
prefer
measure
dollars
to
go
and,
to
be
frank,
we
could
spend
months
discussing
projects
that
ultimately
are
not
a
true
priority
for
Council
or
spend
minutes
on
a
key
priority
that
isn't
quite
on
our
radar.
E
So
I'd
encourage
you
to
also
think
through
what
your
preferred
interactions
and
communication
flows
to
counsel
from
measure
J
and
also
from
Council
to
measure
J
right
that
in
going
back
to
Indian
Canyon
on
a
two-way
street,
two
efficient
decision
making
last
June,
we
had
a
very
similar
conversation,
though
via
Zoom
Council,
stressed
the
need
for
measure
day
to
have
streamlined
decision
making
processes.
Budget
buckets
were
recommended
to
be
considered
to
speed
up
the
way
in
which
projects
are
presented
and
moved
forward.
This
year's
staff
brought
up
two
budget
recommendations
in
line
with
this
thinking.
E
We
have
a
general
project,
cost
overruns
of
a
million
dollars,
so
the
engineering
can
accept
bids
and
keep
the
momentum
moving
as
needed
for
various
projects
when
prices
and
costs
change,
there's
also
a
500
000
bucket
for
projects
Parks
and
Rec
specific
related
project
overruns,
so
that
our
Park
Investments
do
not
unnecessarily
stall.
There's
been
so
many
public
comments
and
conversations
around
investing
in
our
parks,
and
this
is
just
one
small
way.
We
can
keep
that
moving
forward
on
behalf
of
measure
J.
E
We
want
to
applaud
these
efforts
by
staff
to
make
the
decision-making
processes
as
efficient
and
smooth
as
possible.
Other
annual
buckets
could,
in
other
annual
buckets,
include
the
six
million
dollars
allocation
towards
Street
Paving,
and
also
a
million
dollar
allocation
for
Community,
initiated
projects,
projects
that
come
to
us
straight
from
our
con
from
our
residents
and
neighbors.
Again.
We
are
in
support
of
these
efforts,
but
we
think
the
sufficiency
could
be
extended.
E
For
instance,
we
could
have
a
Target
percent
allocation
for
Public
Safety
streets,
Parks
Community
projects,
so
we
can
quickly
determine
if
and
how
much
project
could
be
funded
by
our
measure.
J
Revenue.
This
is
just
one
strategy.
If
Council
has
other
kind
of
quote,
unquote
big
picture
funding,
ideas
tied
to
perhaps
your
strategic
plan
or
other
guiding
principles,
we
could
use
that
as
well,
but
again,
we'd
like
to
incorporate
your
feedback
prior
to
the
June
budget
meeting
to
know
that
we
are
we're
really
in
line
with
your
important
infrastructure
funding
priorities.
E
Measure
J
is
11
years
old
and
if
something
is
around
for
more
than
a
decade,
we
hope
that
they're.
The
way
we're
making
decision
is
the
smidge
more
efficient
than
we
did.
10
years
before,
three
community
community
initiated
projects
for
the
last
11
years,
the
commission
has
had
a
one
million
dollar
allocation
for
Community
initiated
projects.
E
There
was
a
several
year
period
where
the
allocation
was
set
aside
for
Community
hot
spots,
or
a
list
of
projects
that
were
identified
by
the
community.
Then
there
was
a
several
year
period
where
the
million
dollars
every
year
went
to
the
downtown
park
in
another
kind
of
chunk
of
money.
Staff
is
currently
working
on
the
latest
round
of
community
submissions
from
the
Lost
fiscal
year
and
it
will
likely
take
at
least
two
to
three
years
to
vet
and
or
complete
everything
from
that
list.
E
We
highly
recommend
Council
prioritize
projects
that
have
a
direct
benefits
to
the
community,
safe
roads,
ADA,
Compliant,
sidewalks,
clean
and
modern
parks,
things
that
our
residents
can
feel
it
is
partly.
For
this
reason
we
just
recommend
it
to
take
out
a
budget
line
item
for
downtown
maintenance
and
security
out
of
the
measure
J
Budget.
It
is
why
we
feel
it
is
not
appropriate
to
fund
staff
or
Outsource
labor
for
measure
J.
E
We
must
communicate
and
be
transparent
about
the
value
and
importance
of
these
important
infrastructure
projects
that
have
been
funded
by
our
residents
themselves,
and
so
we
would
encourage
you
to
think
about
investing
in
communication
strategies.
Promotion
around
all
these
projects
that
our
residents
are
using
every
single
day,
I'm
happy
to
chat
more
through
any
of
these
ideas,
or
any
of
these
themes
that
my
colleagues
and
I
have
been
talking
about
for
the
last
several
years,
but
we
really
look
forward
to
this
and
are
looking
forward
to
a
robust
dialogue.
Thank
you.
F
F
First
slide:
this
is
the
entire
budget.
We
start
off
with
the
third
column.
Over
it's
gray,
that's
the
fiscal
year.
23
forecast
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
I,
don't
think
I'm
going
to
go
through
the
numbers,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
start
with
the
fiscal
year,
24
numbers
and
we'll
go
down
to
the
measure.
J
sales
tax
revenue
line
of
22.5
million
dollars.
That's
what
we're
projecting
for
sales
tax
revenue
for
fiscal
year
24.!
It's
a
modest
growth
about
1.3
percent,
from
what
we're
forecasting
for
this
year.
F
So
the
measure
J
fund
on
the
debt
service
line
of
3.13
million.
That
is
the
downtown
revitalization
project
that
was
done.
The
debt
was
issued
in
2012
and
measure.
J
has
been
paying
that
Debt
Service
ever
since
that
debt
was
refunded
in
21
and
measure.
J
will
continue
to
pay
that
Debt
Service.
Until
it's
fully
paid
off.
F
We
have
downtown
maintenance,
landscaping
and
security
for
650
000,
and
then
that
gives
us
a
capital
projects.
Expenditure
amount
of
about
8.8
million
and
that's
tier
Soto,
stated
before
we
added
a
couple
of
line
items
this
year
for
cost
overruns.
We
added
a
million
dollars
just
for
general
cost
overruns
on
all
of
the
projects
and
then
the
commission
specifically
wanted
to
set
aside
a
500
000
for
the
parks
and
rec
projects
for
any
cost
overruns
on
those
projects
that
bucket
of
money
will
be
used.
F
So
a
total
of
a
million
and
a
half
when
if
we
get
project
bids
back
that
are
over
what
we
have
budgeted,
there
will
be
total
expenditures
of
24.2
million
for
the
fiscal
year
24.
We
are
projecting
a
slight
deficit
of
a
million
and
a
half,
but
we
still
have
positive
fund
balance
of
3.3
million.
That's
an
unassigned
fund
balance.
We
have
a
restricted
fund
balance.
F
That's
for
the
airport
projects,
that's
1.5
million
for
a
total
fund
balance
at
the
end
of
fiscal
year,
24
4.8
million
dollars
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
fiscal
year.
25.,
we'll
jump
down
to
the
revenue
line
have
a
little
bit
more
projected
growth
in
fiscal
year,
25
at
23.4
million
dollars.
F
Same
Debt,
Service
amount,
3.1
million
on
the
downtown
maintenance
and
Landscaping
and
security
line.
The
commission
has
voted
to
phase
that
out
and
it
will
be
zero
once
we
get
to
fiscal
year,
26
that
we'll
be
paying
still
a
substantial
Chuck
chunk
of
that
maintenance.
Over
the
next
couple
of
years,
capital
projects
spent
about
7
million,
and
then
again
we
have
the
buckets
of
cost
overrun,
one
million
dollars
for
General
500
000
for
Parks.
F
This
is
just
a
slide
of
the
revenue
since
2012
when
the
measure
was
implemented,
it
was
voted
and
approved
in
November
of
2011
I
believe
there
was
only
a
couple
of
months
in
that
early
year.
That's
why
you
see
the
revenue
down
so
low,
but
you
can
see
the
steady
growth
and
especially
as
we
came
out
of
covid-19
pandemic,
how
the
revenue
has
grown
substantially.
F
F
Ten
and
a
half
million
will
be
going
to
our
parks,
10.2
million,
going
to
Public
Safety
and
then
9.2
million
go
into
our
library,
and
then
you
can
see
where
everything
else
is
being
spent
there,
but
thought
it
was
interesting
to
see
how
much
money
was
going
into
the
different
sections
of
measure.
J,
here's
a
list
of
the
projects.
This
is
the
top
15..
F
We
couldn't
really
fit
them
all
in
one
slide
with
that
not
really
being
able
to
see
them
very
well,
but
I
believe
they're,
all
in
your
staff
report
and
we're
more
happy
to
take
questions
on
any
of
the
projects,
of
course.
But
this
is
the
top
15
by
budget
dollars,
not
by
priority
by
budget
dollars.
It's
we're
projected
to
spend
43.6
million
dollars
on
12
projects
over
the
next
two
fiscal
years.
We
did
add
one
new
project
in
fiscal
year:
24
that
was
a
Structure.
F
F
F
I
did
want
to
mention
on
the
previous
slide,
I
believe
12
of
those
top
15
projects
with
that
43.6
million
dollar
spend,
are
going
to
be
completed
by
the
end
of
fiscal
year.
25.,
and
that
concludes
the
presentation
and
we'll
be
more
happy
to
open
up
for
discussion
and
city
engineer.
Joe
matavo
is
here
to
take
questions
as
well
as
myself,
and
then
the
commission
as
well
great.
A
H
H
I
know
that
last
year's
budget
out
of
the
community
initiated
three
million
dollars.
There
was
still
another
1.2
that
was
unallocated
at
the
time
and
it
was
about.
H
E
We
have
not
heard
from
Parks
quite
yet
on
the
prioritized
list,
so
there
hasn't
been
that
at
least
to
the
commission
that
much
action
since
last
year.
That
being
said,
Public
Works
and
Parks
have
been
kind
of
working
on
that
list.
I
know
the
sunrise.
E
H
I
Yeah,
so
it
is
going
to
be
combined
with
the
the
library
project
itself.
So
it's
it's
to
me.
It's
it's
one
project,
the
library
and
the
JC
fry
are
working
together.
The
the
infrastructure
work
that
the
library
got
a
grant
to
improve
the
infrastructure
in
the
library.
The
JC
fry
requires
very
similar
work,
so
they're
going
to
be
done
in
conjunction.
H
Yeah
I
agree:
okay,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
have
a
vision
of
the
purpose
of
the
building
before
we
spend
all
the
money
as
it
relates
to
the
whole
Library
yeah.
I
So
the
architect
that
we,
essentially
today,
we
made
the
preliminary
decision
on
which
architectural
firm
is
going
to
take
on
the
project.
They
will
be
part
of
the
visioning
of
of
the
of
that,
the
JC
fry
and
the
library,
but
the
bones.
The
infrastructure
still
needs
to
be
repaired
and
that's
what
we're
going
to
tackle.
First,
okay,.
H
I
So
the
project
right
now
is
in
RFP
stage,
so
we've
issued
an
RFP
for
the
design.
The
725
000
is
combined
with
Quimby
funds
as
well
for
a
total
of
one
point:
I
think
it's
1.4
million,
so
it
is
good.
It
is
happening
and
we're
we're
going
to
be
in
design
soon.
I
Can
get
the
parks
and
rec
director
to
answer
that,
but
there
has
been
Community
input
as
far
as
the
original,
what
the
desires
are
and
through
the
design
process
there
should
be
Community
input
and
our
director
can
answer
that.
H
To
be
Community,
I
want
to
ask
a
couple
questions
on
some
of
the
small
community
initiated
projects
that
you
had
on
the
page.
There
was
the
the
repair
and
the
exercise
equipment,
I,
think
that
was
actually
in
the
wellness
Park
not,
and
the
new
equip
new
exercise
equipment
at
Desert
Highlands
and
the
hiking
trail
maintenance
and
Trailhead
signage.
That's
not
been
started
yet.
E
I
mean
I
guess
what
I
would
say
is
in
general.
We
recognize
that
it
there's
like
a
vetting
process
for
each
of
these
projects
and
just
get
the
full
kind
of
price
and
cost
of
each
project
and
I
recognize
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
capacity
limits
of
Staff,
so
there's
they're
slowly
working
through
our
list,
but
other
than
that
I.
Don't
know
if
drool.
I
You
have
anything,
that's
correct,
I
mean
we
are
not
so
these
are
generally
not
engineering
projects
per
se.
There
are
facilities
and
maintenance
projects
and
parks
and
recs
projects
so
slowly
they
have
a
group
of
projects
that
they
want
to
get
to
and
finish
so
they're
working
through
those
lists.
The
funding
is
here
and
as
I
think
I
mentioned
before
the
community
initiated
project
budgets
were
estimates
from
the
folks
that
submitted
their
applications.
So
each
one
of
these
is
going
through
a
vetting
process
and,
as
I
discover
every
single
project
the
budget
grows.
I
So
we
haven't
gone
to
that
in
those
particular
projects,
but
I'm
assuming
the
project
will
probably
grow
as
well.
Okay,.
H
So,
to
enter
chair
soda
to
your
point,
if
you
want
things
that
the
community
can
recognize
the
value
of
measure
J,
these
are
sort
of
small
things
that
I
think
have
a
great
impact
on
the
community
and
it's
a
really
important
thing
for
use
of
measure
J
it's.
It
is
kind
of
hard
for
them
to
understand
how
certain
things
even
Ada
access,
but
when
they
see
a
restroom
in
the
J,
James
or
Jesse
Park
or
they
or
they
see
a
new
well
new
exercise
equipment.
H
They
sort
of
really
understand
that
that
this
is
for
the
community.
So
I
wanted
to
encourage
that,
and
so
some
of
my
questions
you
just
answered
in
your
opening
statement,
so
I
do
want
to
say
the
structured
Communications
process
I
wholeheartedly
agree,
and
that
is
something
when
I
was
on
the
commission
that
I
know
we
all
pushed
for
so
I
I
am
going
to
recommend.
H
Do
we
have
a
quarterly
budget
review
or
just
a
a
mid-year,
well
I'm,
going
to
be
suggest
that
we
have
a
quarterly
review,
I'm
happy
to
be
the
liaison
you're
going
to
have
a
new
commission
starting
very
soon,
some
new,
Commissioners
and
and
I
think
that
would
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
have
that
on
priorities
and
budgets.
I
did
just
want
to
mention
the
applications
for
measure.
J
commission
are
still
open.
H
H
H
I
understand
that
you
can't
have
a
lot
of
community
initiated
projects
that
go
on,
but
if
you
have
that
money,
it's
they
set
aside
for
them
and
perhaps
if
you
did
different
themes
along
that
line,
so
I'm
going
to
suggest
that
maybe
we
come
back
what
you
said
and
within
maybe
three
months
or
the
the
beginning
of
the
new
year
about
allocating
certain
percentages
to
to
Public,
Safety
and
Parks,
so
that
we
have
that.
H
Do
you
want
me
to
stop
yeah
well
I'm,
going
to
keep
going
sorry,
so
I
do
agree
that
measure
J
is
going
to
because
it
is
going
to
expire.
I
mean
sunset
in
10
years.
We
need
to
start
working
on
it.
So
to
your
point,
I
think
we
should
allocate
a
certain
amount
of
money.
Maybe
it's
50
100
000
a
year
I'm
communicating
the
benefits
of
measure
J.
H
As
we
said,
it's
172
million
dollars,
we've
gotten
it's
sort
of
worth
investing
in
the
communications.
The
last
thing
I
was
just
gonna
mention
one
this
on
the
budget.
There
is
754
000
for
a
structure
to
house
impounded
vehicles.
H
I
think
that
is
something
very
hard
to
people
understand
the
spirit
of
measure
J
that
went
into
it
and
just
just
to
reiterate
how
it
was
sold,
was
the
local
community
services
and
to
revitalized
downtown,
and
even
though
it
can
be
used
for
anything,
a
structure
to
house
impounded
vehicles
does
not
seem
that
people
would
realize.
I
would
rather
spend
that
money
on
upgrading
the
amphitheater
in
our
downtown
park,
which
is
something
the
community
really
uses
and
also
allows
Community
groups
to
actually
use
it
because,
right
now
they
can't
so.
H
My
recommendations
are
going
to
be.
We
have
a
quarterly
review
with
Council
and
I'm
happy
to
be
that
person
there
that
we
allocate
10
percent
for
Community,
initiated
projects
that
we
work
on
a
Target
that
we
can
come
back
to
council
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
about
percentages
of
how
measure
J
is
used,
that
we
come
up
with
an
annual
figure
for
communications.
J
J
Thank
you
for
those
comments
and
thank
you
to
Mayor
Pro
tem
Bernstein
for
his
leadership
on
measure.
J
really
appreciate
it
and
thank
you
to
the
Commissioners
for
their
excellent
work.
Serving
the
city.
I
know
we
don't
meet
with
you
very
often
or
often
enough,
but
we
so
appreciate
your
work,
and
this
is
incredibly
important.
J
So
I
completely
agree
with
mayor
Pro,
tems
suggestions
and
recommendations
and
would
love
to
support
that
I'm
having
Deja
Vu
a
little
bit
because
I
believe
in
our
last
joint
measure,
J
committee,
meeting
commission
meeting.
We
actually
did
that
I
think
I
requested
to
increase
the
budget
for
Community
projects
and
I
believe
a
majority
of
councils
supported
at
that
time
and
I
believe
we
also
talked
about
those
budgets
or
priorities
and
setting
some
guidelines
and
feedback
to
the
commission
and
staff
about
what
council
would
like
to
see
appropriated
with
these
dollars.
J
Since
we
do
want
to
see,
have
a
lot
of
amazing
projects
to
show
the
community
what
we've
done
with
172
million
dollars
and
Counting
and
and
have
some
big
projects
to
show,
including
like
the
downtown
park
but
I
know
we
have
more
coming
like
the
library
and
fire
stations
and
all
of
that
so
I
don't
know
if
staff
I
can't
see
you
right
now.
But
if
you
have
feedback
about
what
council
Soul
actually
decided
last
time,
that
would
be
helpful,
but
I
fully
support
increasing
the
community
projects.
J
I
don't
know
if
a
percentage
is
more
helpful
for
staff
or
maybe
a
dollar
figure,
because
sometimes
the
percentage
is
a
moving
Target
and
it's
hard,
but
yeah
I
would
support
getting
to
the
goal
of
increasing
that,
because
it
really
is
helpful
projects
that
the
community
request
and
I
support
the
proposal
about
the
vehicle
structure
as
well.
We
need
to
I
agree
that
we
need
to
continue
the
spirit
of
measure
J
and
what
we
promise
to
to
our
voters
and
residents
who
supported
the
measure
and
so
I
think
you
know.
J
City
projects
are
important,
but
we
really
need
a
balance
of
visible
projects
that
you
know
our
Economic
Development
infrastructure
for
downtown,
like
mayor
Pro,
tem
said
so.
I
don't
have
more
to
add.
I
just
support
those
recommendations
and
would
love
to
see
that
move
forward.
Thank
you
to
staff
and
the
Commissioners
for
your
work
on
this.
F
Thank
you,
councilmember
hostage
for
the
question.
I'll
address
the
community
initiated
projects
and
the
budget
related
to
that
I
think
that
the
budget
would
support
an
increase.
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
if
I,
you
know
the
council
can
direct
if
they
would
rather
have
a
percentage
of
Revenue
or
a
straight
dollar
amount.
The
budget
and
fiscal
year
24
is
a
little
bit
pressured
so
I
would
say
we
could
begin
it
in
25.
F
Not
necessarily
I
think
you
know
we
could
do
some
analysis
in
in
forecast
Out
Future
years
to
see
you
know
if
it's
a
10
percent
of
Revenue
that
could
be
supported,
which
I
I
think
that
could
be
supported
as
we
speak
right
now,
anything
greater
than
that
I'd
have
to
probably
do
a
little
bit
more
research
and
a
little
bit
more
analysis
on.
But
if,
if
the
Council
on
the
commission
wanted
to
set
10
I
think
that
that's
doable
right
now.
J
Great
I
would
support
that.
Thank
you
and
I.
Just
had
one
other
question
and
then
comment
so
I
had
a
question
about
if
the
cost
overruns
for
projects
as
detailed
in
the
staff
report,
so
you
would
set
aside
cost
overrun
dollars,
for
you
know
just
in
general
and
then
for
parks
in
Iraq
I
know,
we've
seen
really
significant
increases
on
cost
of
materials
and
construction.
J
I
I
We
don't
know
where
the
projects
are
gonna
end
up
and
if
a
project
does
come
in
significantly
higher
than
what
we
would
anticipate,
then
I
would
probably
bring
it
back
to
the
measure
J,
commission
and
to
council
if
it
was
a
big
dollar
value,
so
I
believe
the
projects
that
we're
dealing
with
in
measure
J
some
are
smaller.
The
one
million
dollars
goes
a
long
way
to
to
do
that
in
the
Parks
as
well
are
smaller
projects,
so
the
500
000
helps.
I
We
have
set
budgets,
we
estimate
and,
as
we
know,
the
you
know,
the
values
keep
on
increasing.
So
the
one
million
dollars
is
helpful.
I,
don't
know
what
the
real
number
is
going
to
be
ultimately,
but
I
think
it's
so
variable
that
going
Beyond
a
million
dollars
today
would
be.
You
know,
probably
not
the
best
way
to
do
it.
I
I
prefer
the
one
million
the
five
today.
J
Thanks
I'm,
just
thinking
about
the
lighting
project
and
others
that
have
been
over
significantly
so
I
know,
we've
gotten
some
feedback
from
pickleball
interests.
You
know
community
and
others,
like
you
know,
is
our
project
going
to
be
delayed
because
there
isn't
sufficient
contingency
for
for
overrun.
So
that's
something
for
for
Council
to
to
debate.
Thank
you.
A
Right,
thank
you
and
if
we
can
check
the
record
as
well
for
the
last
meeting
that
we
had
with
measure
J
and
the
Blessed
budget
discussion,
we
had
because
we
did
have
a
discussion
about
setting
aside
more
funding
for
Community
initiative
projects.
So
if
we
can
just
be
accurate
on
whatever
that
decision
was
by
by
Council
and
well,
let's
check
the
record
just.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
our
record
is
clear
and
not
just
our
memories.
K
E
Yeah
so
Mission
we
were
under
the
impression
it
was
like
maintenance
needs.
As
the
new
downtown
park
kind
of
opened
up,
we
asked
staff
to
look
into
it
and
we
learned
that
it
was
essentially
being
used
mostly
for
the
Allied
security
contract
across
the
city
and
as
a
commission.
Overall,
we
feel
pretty
strongly
that
labor
both
staff
and
also
outsourced
labor
is
not
appropriate
use
of
measure
J
funds,
and
so
we
asked
that
that
budget
line
item
be
taken
out
of
the
measure
day
budget
and
be
essentially
funded
by
General
funds.
E
Instead,
staff
asked
us
to
kind
of
do
it
as
a
phase
out,
so
you
know
there
would
be
a
little
bit
more
room
in
finding
that
in
the
general
funds,
but
that
was
specifically
the
request,
because
we
really
didn't
it.
E
It
was
labeled
downtown
maintenance
for
a
long
time,
and
until
we
asked
some
more
questions,
we
didn't
realize
it
was
being
used
for
security
and
general
maintenance,
which
also
should
be
yeah.
That's
right.
It
was
elevator
maintenance,
some
Landscaping,
which
operational
costs
should
really
be
coming
out
of:
General
Parks
and
Rec
maintenance,
not
out
of
infrastructure
projects
coming
out
of
Mercer
J
yeah.
K
F
Giving
the
janitary
janitorial
yeah
yeah
that
that's
part
of
that
that
is
part
of
that
line-
item
in
the
downtown
Landscaping
Maintenance
and
security.
It's
it's
part
of
that.
Okay,
it's
not
a
whole
lot
of
dollars
annually,
I,
don't
think,
but
it
it
was
part
of
that
line.
So
but
again,
it'll
be
phased
out
and
picked
up
by
the
general
fund
fully
in
26.,
not
Parks
and
Rec.
K
Okay,
all
right
very
good.
Thank
you.
So
you've
made
a
recommendation
for
doing
something
on
making
a
move
for
either
percentage
of
a
percentage
or
flat
dollar
fee
for
Public
Safety
parks
and
Community
initiated
projects,
as
the
commission
talked
about.
What
do
you
want
to
recommend
to
council?
Do
you
want
to
recommend
a
million
five
for
Community
initiated
two
million
dollars?
What
do
you
want
to
have
for
set
aside
on
Public
Safety?
E
I
mean
I'm
be
happy
to
have
some
of
my
Commissioners
join
on
this
conversation,
but
essentially
the
the
process
in
which
these
discussions
happen
is
very
Project
Specific
right,
so
we
have
a
conversation
around
a
new
fire
station.
We
have
a
conversation
around
impound
coverage
for
the
police.
We
have
a
conversation
around
sidewalks
and
it's
very
Project
Specific,
as
opposed
to
saying
you
know,
30
is
going
to
be
for
Public
Safety
and
trying
to
look
at
all
the
priorities,
projects
that
come
to
us
and
seeing
how
it
fits.
E
So
it's
less
so
much
on
the
you
know,
I,
don't
think
we
have
any
recommendations
on
those
what
those
General
parameters
should
be,
but
it
would
make
it
a
lot
faster,
as
opposed
to
every
conversation
starting
from
the
beginning
when
we're
talking
about
projects-
and
it
would
also
help
us
understand
that
oh
wow,
we're
really
short
on.
Let's
say
you
know
the
library
or
Parks
or
other
things.
If
we
have
a
general
Target
as
to
how
much
we
should
be
investing
answer
in
parts
of
the
community.
K
So
if,
ideally,
if
we're
you've
been
using
a
million
dollars
for
the
community
initiated,
how
much
would
you
have
been
able
to
spend
over
the
last
couple
years
on
projects
that
you
wanted
to
do?
But
you
didn't
have
money
for.
E
So
the
community
initiated
projects,
we've
they're,
just
it
moves
very
slowly
right,
and
so
we've
had
a
million
dollars
every
year
and
it
for
the
community
hot
spots,
for
instance,
I
think
that
took
three
or
four
years
to
get
through
for
the
downtown
prod
the
downtown
park.
I
think
for
about
three
years
there
it
was.
E
Our
community
projects
went
straight
to
the
downtown
park,
and
so
it
just
doesn't
leave
a
lot
of
room
to
be
able
to
add
other
things
to
this
list.
Last
fiscal
year
we
went
through
this
big
process
of
getting
Community
input,
but
it
takes
time
to
vet
and
to
see
how
much
those
projects
actually
cost
community
members
are
not
all
engineers,
and
so
some
of
the
costs
that
come
with
those
applications
are
just
not
accurate
and
so
it'd
just
be
moving
a
lot
faster.
E
If
there
was
let's
say,
a
10
allocation
which
is
roughly
what
it
was
at
the
start.
L
E
Oh
yeah
and
I'll
have,
commissioner
gazan,
actually
add
a
little
bit
he's
been
on
the
commission,
a
while
too,
if
you
don't
mind
sure.
M
Greetings
so
the
the
history
with
the
community
initiative
projects
when
it
started,
was
to
keep
a
million
dollars
directly
for
Community
input,
so
so
much
of
the
money
kind
of
goes
towards
general
fund
to
a
degree.
But
it's
it's
projects
that
we
hope
will
benefit
the
community,
but
Community
initiated
really
was
born
out
of
one
PS.
M
So
for
several
years
we
had
projects
that
concentrated
on
hot
spots
for
several
years
and
a
million
dollars
is
nothing
so
that
project
took
three
to
four
years,
because
we
needed
three
to
four
million
to
improve
sidewalks
all
over
the
city.
So
we
realized
quickly
and
as
times
have
changed
and
everything
is
more
expensive
again.
A
million
dollars
is
not
going
to
do
a
lot
for
the
community
and
there's
so
much
need
so
last
year,
when
we
opened
it
up,
we
realized
just
the
flood
of
response
that
came
in
a
lot
of.
M
It
was
Park
related
and
there's
no
way
that
we
can
even
begin
to
tackle
anything
with
a
million
dollars.
It's
going
to
be
very
little
so
I
know
the
discussion.
Last
year
with
the
council
I
believe
the
figure
was
somewhere
around
3
million
for
it
to
increase
to,
and
it
was
received
pretty
positively
So
based
on
10
percent.
We're
only
looking
at
about
2
million
so
anywhere
in
there
is
appreciated,
because,
right
now
a
million
is
just
not
going
to
get
us
even
through
the
list
that
we
received
last
year.
M
We're
going
to
have
to
concentrate
on
these
Community
input.
Projects
will
probably
last
three
years
because
we'll
need
three
million
dollars
to
complete
it.
It's
going
to
take
time
time
and
and
that's
kind
of
been
sort
of
the
history
anyway
with
it,
but
yeah
that
that
kind
of
hopefully
spells
out
a
little
bit
of
where.
K
We're
at
that's
good,
thank
you,
so
Chris
could
we
could
the
could
the
budget
handle
that
a
two
million
increase,
or
two
million
total
for
the
next
fiscal
and
then
jump
to
3
million
for
the
24-25.
F
I
think
it
can
handle
that
and
just
I'll
add
a
little
color
to
that.
So
in
the
budget,
I
didn't
go
over
over
it,
but
you'll
see
in
the
fiscal
year
23
budget,
if
you
still
have
that
up
or
if
you
can
pull
it
up
down
three
quarters
away
through,
is
a
line
called
continuing
Appropriations
carryover
CIP
so
that
two
million
little
over
two
million
dollars
is
actually
carried
over
from
prior
years
for
Community
initiated
projects.
F
F
They're
not,
although
there
is
anticipation
that
we
will
be
using
some
of
that
for
cost
overruns
as
well,
but
but
maybe
not
the
entire
amount,
we're
not
sure.
Yet
until
everything
gets
vetted.
But
to
answer
your
question,
we
could
probably
pick
the
budget
up.
Another
million
and
24
and
another
2
million
in
23
for
Community
initiated
projects.
K
Yeah
I
think
I'd
like
to
see
that
so
going
down
to
the
parks
and
rec
overrun
again
I
hear
you
that
you
feel
comfortable
or
Joelle.
Somebody
felt
comfortable
with
the
500
000
that
we
have
so
what
happens
if
we
need
another
five
hundred
thousand?
How
long
is
it
going
to
take
Council
to
approve
an
additional
500
000
because
we're
running
short
on
the
projects
that
are
on
the
board
right
now?
Nothing
happens
fast,
right,
right.
I
So
it
would
be,
it
turns
into
individual
projects.
I
have
to
come
back
to
one
the
major
J
commission
to
inform
them
of
the
cost
overrun
they
approve
whatever
it
is.
They
give
me
permission
to
go
to
council
and
then
I
request
that,
but
it's
really
project
by
project.
Really,
you
know
on
a
project
by
project
basis
and
the
parks
and
rec.
The
director
is
not
here,
but
he
might
have
a
different
interpretation
of
what
I'm
saying,
but
for
my
general
capital
projects,
that's
the
way
it
would
work.
I
I
Would
defer
to
either
the
parks
and
rec
director
or
the
facilities
director
so
Yvonne?
If
you
could
talk
to
that,
I
think
the
the
personal
Rec
projects
are
smaller
in
nature.
They're
quicker,
you
mobilize
quicker.
The
cost
overruns
are
a
lot
less
from
what
I've
seen
so
they're
smaller
project
values,
yeah
I.
K
Just
don't
want
to
a
city
manager,
maybe
just
from
a
timing
standpoint
I
I,
don't
want
to
slow
the
project
down
if.
I
We
so
I
guess
if
I
were
to
say,
if
we
could
have
a
million
dollars,
we
would
take
a
million
dollars
and
it
wouldn't
I
mean
we
would
not
say
no
and
we
would
use
that
money
and
if
it
doesn't
get
used
on
a
project
or
this
fiscal
year,
it
carries
over
the
next
fiscal
year.
So
and
that
goes
in
general.
For
my
capital
projects.
N
K
I
K
I
O
O
Excuse
me
a
lot
that
I
have
to
say,
because
my
colleagues
have
already
said
it
and
said
it
very
well,
but
I
do
support
moving
up
in
steps
to
three
million
dollars
for
the
community
projects.
I
was
with
1ps
when
Community
projects
got
started
and
I
think
there's
some
of
the
most
important
work
that
we've
done
and
I
want
to
congratulate
measure
J
commission
for
all
of
the
work
that
you
have
done
in
managing
those
Community
projects.
So
this
is
a
report
I'm
very
comfortable
with
and
want
to
move
forward.
O
What
I
would
like
to
add
to
the
conversation
is
measure.
J
has
proven
itself
to
be
one
of
the
most
remarkable
measures
that
we
have
passed
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
The
benefits
that
we
have
gained
from
measure
J
are
absolutely
enormous
and
they
are
continuing
to
pay
dividends
and
I
would
like
to
have
a
discussion
come
before
Council,
to
make
a
determination
as
to
whether
or
not
we
should
place
on
the
ballot
sometime
in
2024,
a
measure
to
make
measure
J
permanent.
A
All
right
well,
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
measure,
J,
commission.
That's
what
I'm
doing
mayor
Pro
tem
likes
to
step
in
he's
he's
ready
for
the
mayoral
role.
A
A
You
all
deserve
the
that
attention
too.
I
agree
regarding
using
general
fund
money
for
the
maintenance.
I
think
that
is
a
really
important
distinction
that
needs
to
be
made
that
these
are
infrastructure
projects
that
we're
focusing
on
and
not
general
maintenance.
If
we
don't
have
the
ability,
as
a
city
to
do
the
general
maintenance,
then
we
shouldn't
be
doing
the
project
at
all,
and
we
need
to
be
thoughtful
about
that
as
well.
We
don't
want
to
keep.
A
I
would
also
agree
that,
using
that
funding
for
the
parking
structure
impound
lot
finding
some
funding
for
that
in
another
way
and
and
doing
the
amphitheater
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
We
don't
have
figures
yet
on
how
much
it
would
cost
to
make
those
changes
to
the
amphitheater,
but
at
least
having
some
sort
of
money
going
to.
That
would
be
really
helpful
because
it
is
those
the
movies
in
the
park.
A
The
concerts
I
mean
people
really
love
those
events
and
if
we
could
be
able
to
actually
use
that
Amphitheater
on
a
regular
basis
and
not
have
it
be
a
huge
cost
burden
that
would
really
helps
I
really
appreciate
mayor
Pro
tem
bringing
that
up,
but
thank
you
to
my
colleagues.
So
at
this
time,
I
believe
we
you
have
caught
before
we
go
to
approving
anything
there
for
a
time.
H
A
A
Is
that
we're
looking
back
at
the
history
of
what's
been
done
not
just
last
year
but
for
the
last
several
years
because
of
all
of
the
changes
that
have
been
made
and
that
everyone
is
up
to
speed
on
what's
going
on,
because
when
we're
in
these
meetings
and
we're
just
going
off
of
memory,
it's
a
disservice
to
not
only
Council
to
the
staff
to
the
public.
So
we
just
need
to
be
better
about
making
sure
that
we're.
On
top
of
that.
H
H
We
can
meet
quarterly
and
go
through
this
and
present
some,
whether
even
if
it's
a
document
to
council
and
consent,
at
least
they
can
see
an
update,
I
think
that
would
make
sense,
and
certainly
when
we
have
the
mid-year
budget
again
regarding
the
issues
of
of
of
extending
or
the
sunset
I
think
can
we
agree
to
spend,
allocate
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
communication
on
measure
J
projects.
H
Is
that
something
that
the
council
supports,
because
we
don't
actually
Market
our
projects
that
well
and
we
rely
on
City
staff
to
do
it
and
but
hire
an
outside
agency
to
help
with
certain
things
and
and
maybe
in
September?
Could
we
agree
to
come
up
with
percentages
for
by
category
Public
Safety
work
with
the
commission?
That's
the
first
one
after
after
the
break.
That
seems
like
an
appropriate
time
as
you're
doing
the
road
map
for
the
year.
E
Yeah,
the
earlier
we
can
have
those
allocations,
the
better
and
it'll
make
you
know
our
planning,
like
you,
said
that
we
we
do
have
a
roadmap
where
we
consider
certain
projects
at
certain
times,
and
it
would
be
super
helpful
to
have
that
in
the
fall
is
September.
H
A
good
time
then
September's,
great,
okay
and
you'll
have
the
new
Commissioners
will
be
on
board
then
as
well,
and
just
my
last
comment.
I
think.
Is
it
two
Commissioners
that
are
trimming
out
this
year,
commissioner
Craig
and
goes
on
so
I
want
to?
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
service
to
this,
commissioner
is
on
was
my
chair
for
a
while.
H
So
it's
it's
really
it's
important
work
and
when
you're
making
recommendations
for
what
is
now
172
million,
it's
it's
very
important
and
the
history
that
you
have
brought
to
it
is
really
key
in
the
dedication.
So
thank
you
both
for
and
everybody
for
your
service,
but
especially
the
two
of
you.
Thank
you.
A
H
H
Emotion,
my
emotion
is
to
approve,
except
we
take
out
the
754
000
for
that
was
set
aside
for
the
for
the
impound
structure
and
we
use
it
as
a
set
aside
for
the
amphitheater
pending
printing
review,
that
we
have
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
annually
for
communications
and
marketing
and
Mr
J
projects
that
we
increase,
the
community
initiated
projects
to
to
3
million
we
can
annually.
H
We
can
determine
whether
that
happens
next
year
by
the
year
after,
but
definitely
by
the
year
after,
and
that
we
have
quarterly
structured
Communications
with
the
commission
and
Council
or
a
council
representative.
That
is
then
brought
back
to
council
and
in
September
we
come
up
with
the
category
recommendations
for
Council
review
of
budget
by
category.
N
K
H
J
Thank
you,
so
I
just
want
to
clarify
I
appreciate
that
we
want
to
work
to
what's
get
to
a
place,
that's
workable
for
staff
and
for
the
budget,
but
measure
J
is
essentially
owed
three
million
dollars
from
this
past
year,
because
Council
approved
three
million
dollars
in
community
projects
last
year.
So
I
appreciate
we
want
to
get
to
a
workable
solution
and
I'm
happy
to
support
that,
but
it's
really
hard
to
delay
when
we
are
already
now
delayed.
J
So
please
tell
me
what
is
actually
what
is
workable,
why?
Why
is
only
2
million
workable
now
in
this
budget,
and
where
did
that
additional
three
million
dollars
from
last
year
go.
F
So
the
three
million
dollars
for
Community
initiative
projects
didn't
make
it
into
the
budget.
This
year
we
only
put
one
million
into
the
budget
in
fiscal
year.
25
the
budget
is
a
little
bit
pressure
or
24.
It's
a
little
bit
pressured
because
we're
already
operating
at
a
deficit.
F
F
If
we
wanted
to
try
to
catch
up
from
last
year
to
get
the
3
million
into
the
community
initiated
project
budget,
we
would
probably
have
to
do
it
over
a
couple
of
years
in
order
to
catch
up.
J
So
if
that's
the
only
solution,
I'm
happy
to
support
two
years
this
year,
but
I
just
think
it's
really
problematic
that
when
we're
making
decisions
here,
it's
not
being
effectuated
and
then
we
are
owing
that
money
to
the
community.
So
I'm,
fine
with
that
compromise,
I
think
there's
one
other
friendly
Amendment
to
the
motion,
which
is
the
con.
The
rollover
funds
for
the
the
over
costs.
J
I,
don't
know
if,
if
council,
member,
dehar
or
mayor
Pro
tem
Jeff
Bernstein.
If
you
wanted
to
include
that
in
your
motion
at
all.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
So
we
have
a
couple
of
amendments.
Is
Council
feel
good
about
what
they're
hearing
at
this
moment
and
staff.
Are
you
getting
all
of
that
as
well?
Okay,
all
right!
Do
we
have
a
second
for
that
motion
with
those
amendments?
Second,
from
council
member
to
Heart,
can
we
have
a
roll
call
vote?
Please
be.
A
A
A
A
B
A
R
Yes,
honorable
mayor
city,
council,
members
of
the
public,
the
city
council
met
in
closed
session
pursuant
to
the
items
listed
on
the
closed
session
agenda,
and
there
is
no
reportable
action.
Thank.
A
You
thank
you
very
much.
The
next
item
is
public
testimony.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
city
council
on
non-public
hearing
agenda
items.
Only
two
minutes
will
be
assigned
to
each
speaker.
You're
asked
to
please
begin
your
time
by
telling
us
what
agenda
item
or
items
you're
speaking
about,
and
please
note
that
the
public
hearing
item
will
be
taken.
A
S
Good
evening,
honorable
council
members
and
mayor
Garner
I've,
been
here
before
this
is
regarding
item
3B,
sidewalk
vending,
ordinance,
I'm
here,
just
to
say
one
thank
you
to
the
city
staff,
Flynn
city
manager
and
Council
for
listening
to
what
we've
had
to
say
and
there's
a
lot
of
good
stuff
in
the
ordinance
that
is
specific.
There's
also
been
a
lot
of
stakeholders.
Who've
been
engaged
in
establishing
what
this
ordinance
is.
I
represent
the
Arenas
District
I
represent
my
business
I'm
a
restaurateur
and
much
like
a
doctor.
S
Our
job
is
to
do
no
harm,
and
so
the
ordinance
helps
establish
guidelines
for
safety,
health
and
ADA
requirements.
S
S
Specifically.
What
I'm
asking
is:
is
the
council
to
take
into
account
what
what
work
has
been
done
because
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
stakeholders
who
have
a
different
take
on
everything
from
my
neck
of
the
woods,
I
think
there's
been
a
lot
of
thought.
That's
gone
into
this
and,
and
my
time
has
expired,
so
I
do.
Thank
you.
It's
in
front
of
you.
T
T
However,
the
overriding
reasons
given
by
the
consul
to
approve
this
site
was
that
it
had
existing
buildings
that
could
be
quickly
developed
and
brought
online
and
that
it
would
also
be
more
economical.
Actual
events
have
shown
that
neither
has
been
the
case.
This
project
is
now
estimated
to
cost
just
under
40
million
dollars.
That's
a
lot
of
money
with
that
much
money.
For
example,
you
could
buy
200
condominium
units
at
the
Villa
Condominiums
200,
and
that
would
be
permanent
residents,
not
80
temporary.
T
T
We
were
assured
at
community
outreach
meetings
that
this
type
of
occurrence
would
not
be
happening.
There
we're
we're
kind
of
concerned
that
this
facility
is
turning
into
a
bigger
project
that
was
originally
built,
I'm
afraid
that
the
county
is
trying
to
set
this
up
as
a
regional
facility.
That's
going
to
address
homelessness
outside
of
the
city
of
Palm,
Springs
and
I
am
urging
you
to
vote
no
on
this
funding,
send
it
back
redesign
it
get
something
that's
more
suitable
for
our
community
as
promised.
T
U
U
U
I,
don't
know
character
issues
to
come
up
this
charity
or
is
it
vanity
I,
don't
know,
but
I
would
sit
here
and
say
how
did
the
city
actually
bet
this?
That's.
L
A
V
Hello,
I'm
Alejandro
Meza,
Aguilar
I'm,
the
Coachella
Valley
organizer
for
icij,
the
Inland
Coalition
for
immigrant
Justice
and
I
wanted
to
talk
about
item
3B
I
want
to
speak
against
the
4
to
11
pm
Prohibition
in
the
downtown
Zone
I
understand
that
the
concerns
focus
on
traffic
safety
and
Ada,
and
while
it
may
seem
that
upon
a
quick
glance,
the
sidewalks
seems
small,
but
the
reality
is
that
the
infrastructure
is
adequate.
Arenas
is
96,
inches
and
pump.
Canyon
has
two
measurements:
179
inches
and
98
inches
with
the
palm
tree.
V
That
would
be
Palm
Canyon
and
the
prohibition
of
four
to
eleven
also
aligns
with
the
food
service
hours
of
the
Arenas
area.
So,
while
giving
that
limitation,
that
would
also
bring
legal
concerns
in
regards
to
limiting
business
competition.
V
We
just
implore
that
you
reconsider
that
limitation
and
you
focus
on
the
aspects
that
you
know.
Downtown
Palm
Springs
is
more
than
more
than
lockable
and
if
Ada
concerns
also
do
come
into
question,
then
we
should
also
focus
on
brick
and
mortars
as
well.
Considering
they
are,
they
have
no
Ada
adequate
entrances.
V
A
A
Okay,
Brian
Sanchez
and
then,
if
we
someone
can
get
Juan
Espinosa.
W
Good
evening,
council
members,
my
name
is
Brian
Sanchez
I
am
the
lead
organizer
for
the
Inland
Coalition
for
immigrant
Justice.
Part
of
our
work
is
advocacy
for
Street
vendors
in
the
Inland
Empire
I'd
like
to
start
by
again
recognizing
the
time
and
effort
at
this
Council
and
its
staff
has
put
into
crafting
this
ordinance.
We
see
that
many
of
our
past
recommendations
are
included
in
it.
W
As
we
don't
know
yet
how
much
these
businesses
would
charge
for
set
agreements.
Palm
Springs
should
relieve
some
of
the
financial
burden
that
is
being
that
is
being
faced
by
low-income
senior
vendors
in
our
past
work
with
Street
vendors
we've
seen
time
and
time
again
that
street
vendors
are
more
than
willing
to
follow
proper
channels
and
integrate
with
the
formal
local
economy.
The
biggest
obstacle
they
face
is
the
financial
hurdle
that
comes
with
acquiring
permits
again.
I
urge
the
council
to
waive
the
business
permit
fee
for
low-income,
seniors,
55
and
up.
Thank
you.
X
All
right,
good
evening,
mayor
and
Council,
as
my
co-workers
said
today
and
have
said
before,
we
thank
you
and
appreciate
your
time.
You
know
for
for
looking
into
this
since
November,
but
as
mentioned
before
right,
we
have
recommendations
for
the
Arenas
District,
where
again,
a
lot
of
these
restaurants,
brick
and
mortar
businesses
that
are
on
these
in
these
districts
could
potentially
expand
their
own
business.
X
By
doing
it
in
two
forms,
one
providing
a
shared
kitchen
agreement
for
sidewalk
vendors,
who
sell
potentially
hazardous
food
or
other,
or
also
known
as
other
cultural,
significant
Foods
right
so
a
brick
and
mortar,
could
rent
their
their,
as
my
colleague
has
said,
rent
their
kitchen
and
be
able
to
provide
a
commercial
kitchen
space.
That's
required
for
vendors,
who
may
not
have
access
to
a
local
commercial
kitchen
or
Commissary.
For
example,
the
closest
commissary
is
in
the
city
of
Indio.
X
So
again,
folks
can
focus
on
this
type
of
cart
model,
using
maybe
the
El
tamalero
cart.
That
was
designed
by
Revolution
cards,
in
which
we
provided
information
to
to
all
the
council
members,
and
so
that
that
cart
would
be
able
to
operate
on
these
sidewalks.
That
are
at
least
eight
feet
or
or
larger,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
see
that
these
two,
the
vendors
and
the
brick
and
mortar
businesses
can
co-exist
anytime
between
as
early
as
7
A.M
to
3
A.M
and
not
prohibit
them
in
the
Arenas
District.
X
We
hope
again
that
you
take
into
consideration
all
the
other
amendments
that
we
emailed
you
about,
including
waiving
this
business
license
for
elders
or
for
low-income
seniors
ages.
55
and
up
I
know
that
other
cities
throughout
the
IE
are
looking
to
Palm
Springs
and
the
City
of
Redlands
to
be
able
to
pass
model
type
ordinances
like
we
are
going
to
discuss
here
tonight.
So
thank
you
for
listening.
E
Good
evening
Council
Madam
mayor,
thank
you
for
considering
the
important
issue
of
measure
or
item
3E,
the
setting
aside
of
tot
dollars
for
affordable
housing.
A
budget
is
a
reflection
of
values
and
priorities,
and
if
affordable,
housing
and
across
Market
housing
is
important
to
this
Council.
It
is
vital
that
we
put
the
tot
dollars
to
do
so.
E
Studies
after
studies
show
that
cities
that
build
are
able
to
have
housing
for
more
people
across
all
markets.
We
are
building
entirely
too
slow
in
this
town,
and
you
know
personally
I'm
a
homeowner
by
Miracle.
E
It
feels
like
because,
if
I
were
to
arrive
to
the
city
now,
there's
no
way
I
would
have
been
able
to
to
purchase
my
home,
and
so
I
really
just
cannot
stress
how
much
it
is
important
that
we
put
these
two
tot
dollars
to
affordable
housing
and
that
we
become
a
model
that
it
is
possible
to
build
quickly
and
to
build
in
the
city
as
opposed
to
project
stalling
and
projects
for
tourist
stalling
and
things
for
residents
places
for
residents
and
community
members
to
live
being
such
a
dire
Prospect
so
really
encourage
you
to
put
those
dot
dollars
and
thank
you
for
considering
this.
Y
Good
evening,
Council
good
evening,
everyone
thank
you
to
the
city
staff
and
to
everyone
that
has
worked
on
this
ordinance.
It's
very
important
and
I
really
appreciate
all
the
work
that's
gone
into
it
and
the
thoughtful
iterations
of
the
ordinance
I
want
to
start
by
pointing
out
that.
It's
no
coincidence
that
we're
talking
about
the
city
being
at
a
deficit,
yet
there's
been
a
significant
push
and
effort
to
diminish
and
reduce
and
create
obstacles
for
entrepreneurs
that
are
trying
to
create
business.
Y
Y
Entrepreneurs
against
small
businesses
that
are
creating
economic
vitality
and
supporting
communities
is
doing
wrong
and
it's
bad
policy,
so
I
I
would
hope
that
we
don't
create
outright
bans
in
areas
like
the
downtown
district
and
between
the
hours
of
4
to
11
pm,
which
happened
to
coincide
where,
with
restaurant
kitchen
hours
and
the
fact
that
it's
a
downtown
business
district,
which
could
potentially
violate
state
law
so
creating
an
outright
ban,
doesn't
seem
like
the
right
way
to
go
to
restrict
business.
That's
one
thing.
Y
Another
thing
is
there
are
ways
that
you
can
create
reasonable
restrictions
and
we
at
public
Council,
I'm
a
civil
rights
lawyer,
respect
and
push
and
fight
for
ADA
compliance
as
well
and
care
about
safety
and
health
care
as
well.
So
you
can
have
both
a
dynamic,
creative,
robust
economy
in
Palm
Springs,
there's
no
better
place
to
have
an
open-air
economy
than
Palm
Springs
and,
at
the
same
time,
safety,
health
care
and
reasonable
guidelines
to
make
it
work
and
to
allow
these
entrepreneurs
to
exist
in
this
city.
Y
So
I
hope
the
city
can
do
better
by
reducing
the
fine
structure,
reducing
the
fees
for
permits
for
vendors.
That
are
trying
to
operate,
creating
infrastructure
in
the
city
that
supports
these
vendors,
creating
special
vending
zones
that
loosen
restrictions
and
operations
and
creating
Partnerships
between
existing
businesses.
All
of
that
is
possible
in
Palm,
Springs
I
hope
that
the
city
can
do
better.
Thank
you.
Thank.
Z
Good
afternoon,
mayor
and
city
council,
thank
you
for
all
the
work,
that's
being
done
on
this
issue
of
3B,
it's
a
complicated
issue
and
there
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
different
sides
to
it.
I'm
actually
just
call
just
calling
in
tonight
because
of
some
logistical
issues.
I
didn't
see
that
there
was
any
clearance
from
tree
Wells
and
the
curved
line,
so
people
could
get
out
of
their
cars
and
I
was
concerned
about
that,
also
in
the
10
by
10
space.
Z
Also,
I
would
like
to
see
that
maybe
brick
and
mortar
retail
restaurants
and
Street
vendors
could
pay
the
same
sort
of
Licensing
and
land
use
fees
so
that
we're
all
on
an
even
level,
and
those
are
the
things
that
in
particular
I
we
went.
We
set
up
some
tables
to
see
what
things
would
look
like
downtown
and
and
how
it
would
work,
and
just
some
of
these
things
I
mentioned
just
now-
were
some
obstacles
that
I
hope
that
you'll
be
willing
to
consider.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
The
next
item
is
acceptance
of
the
agenda.
The
city
council
discussed
the
order
of
the
Gen.
The
agenda
May
amend
the
order
at
urgency,
items,
notice,
abstentions
or
no
votes
on
consent,
calendar
items
or
request
consent.
Calendar
items
be
removed
for
a
separate
discussion
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
propose
that
we
move
item
3A
the
discussion
of
our
budget
to
the
top
of
our
meeting,
and
then
it
would
follow
the
the
agenda
within
follow.
A
H
A
A
A
A
H
And
so
my
my
questions
really
and
I
don't
know
if
oh
LP
is
here
so
and
you
may
be
better
to
answer,
we
just
approved
our
environmentally
preferable
purchasing
policy,
and
so
the
question
is:
we
have
33
new
vehicles
here,
there's
only
three
Electric
there
were
I,
think
15
hybrids,
it's
not
clear
if
they're
the
most
fuel
efficient
hybrids
and
then
we
have
the
F-150s
and
it's
not
clear
that
those
are
the
most
fuel
efficient.
And
so
my
question
is:
would
this
would
this
have
gone
through
like
this?
AB
Sorry,
we're
I
don't
want
to
step
on
anybody's,
toes
hi
members
of
the
council,
thanks
mayor
Pro
tem,
for
the
question
so
in
regards
to
how
we
would
handle
this
sort
of
in
our
Epp
regime.
I
would
say
that
we're,
as
the
council
knows,
based
on
our
request
for
funding
for
upgrading
our
Fleet
charging
this
year,
we're
kind
of
in
like
a
chicken
egg
dance
over
the
next
I
would
say
two
years
in
terms
of
how
we
phase
in
the
electrification
of
our
Fleet.
AB
Currently
we
do
have
I
would
say,
like
minimum
viable,
electric
electric
infrastructure,
it's
going
to
take
us
a
little
while
to
add
those
additional
Chargers,
because
we
have
to
do
capacity
upgrades
at
Fleet
at
the
police
headquarters
and
at
our
fire
stations.
In
order
to
enable
that
so
I
would
say
it's
possible.
AB
We
might
have
had
one
or
two
additional
electric,
but
we're
facing
both
the
the
capacity
constraints
in
terms
of
adding
the
Chargers
which,
over
the
next
year
or
two
will
make
a
lot
of
progress
on
and
then
also
especially
for
those
larger
Vehicles.
The
market
is
so
tight
for
the
electric
pickup
trucks
electric.
Like
higher
duty
cycle
Vehicles,
because
so
many
cities
want
them
at
this
point
and
I
I
would
anticipate
in
the
next
six
months
to
12
months,
we'll
see
a
pretty
big
expansion
of
that
market.
AB
So,
in
terms
of
you
know
whether
Epp
would
have
completely
changed.
This
I
would
say
maybe
a
little
on
the
margins,
but
you're
gonna
I,
think
see
in
next
year's
cycle
is
a
much
bigger
change
and
I
think
the
team
really
did
do
a
lot
of
work
to
dig
up
the
Mach
3s
to
pull
out
those
hybrid
vehicles
and
we'll
continue
to
to
help
them
do
that
market
research.
A
lot
of
cities
in
California
are
making
some
good
progress
here
as
well,
so
hoping
that
next
year,
we'll
have
a
bit
of
a
stronger
picture.
AB
H
AB
I,
don't
have
the
full
Market
comparison
in
front
of
me
to
be
able
to
like
confidently
say.
Definitely,
it's
I
know
that
so
many
of
the
vehicles
are
chosen
so
specifically
for
a
lot
of
specific
characteristics
around
size,
Etc,
so
I
I
would
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
specifics
there
compared
to
those
specific
subclasses
which
we
can
definitely
do,
but
I
know
the
team
did
put
a
lot
of
effort
into
looking
at
the
fuel
efficiency
of
those
models
because
it
also
saves
them
money
as
well.
H
Okay,
because
I
I
think
that
is
something
that
you
know.
We
want
to
make
sure
that,
just
because
the
Epp
hasn't
gone
into
effect,
yet
that
we're
not
not
abiding
by
the
spirit
of
it,
of
what
council
directed
so
I,
don't
want
to
delay
necessarily
the
process.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
we
are
really
paying
attention
and
I,
don't
know
how
fast
these
vehicles
are
purchased.
Are
they.
AA
Currently,
Excuse
Me
So.
Currently
the
window
has
closed
for
forward
through
Ford
Motor
Company
for
ordering
Vehicles
these
pickup
trucks
are
the
only
pickup
trucks
that
we're
able
to
get
in
the
next
three
four
months.
We
can
no
longer
order
Vehicles,
we
don't
get
these
trucks,
we
won't
be
able
to
get
vehicles
until
2024
and
we're
not
sure
when
they
will
open
up
that
that
window
again.
Okay-
and
these
are
the
most
fuel
efficient-
that
we
were
able
to
find.
Okay.
H
I
appreciate
that
and
I
I
I
don't
want
you
to
delay
getting
the
vehicles
you
need
so
I
do
think
we
want
to
actually
just
make
sure
that
we
are
diligent
on
this
and
just
on
this
note,
I'm
just
going
to
raise
a
comment
on
the
other
item
1D,
which
is
on
the
same
related
thing.
We
had
277
000
car
rental
transactions
at
the
airport.
H
It
would
be
interesting
to
know
how
many
of
those
are
EV
and
what
we
can
do
to
incentivize
and
encourage
our
rental
agencies
to
have
more
I
know
that
Hertz
has
done
a
program
in
Denver
where
they
went.
Did
a
major
electric
I
also
know
that
by
the
way
the
South
Pasadena
Police
went
all
electric
I,
don't
they're
smaller
than
our
city.
They
don't
have
an
airport,
they
don't
have
a
Convention
Center.
So
it's
a
different
city,
but
it
would
be
interesting
to
see
how
other
cities
are
doing
this
so
I
I
I'm.
K
A
question
on
just
a
verification:
isn't
the
life
span
of
most
of
these
vehicles
that
we're
going
to
get
gonna
they'll
be
out
of
inventory
before
2035
comes
around.
AA
K
A
H
A
A
Thank
you.
So
at
this
time
we
will
move
to
item
3A,
which
is
the
update
to
the
general
fund,
capital
and
Airport
draft
budget
for
fiscal
years,
2023
to
2024
and
2024
2025.
I
do
want
to
let
the
public
and
Council
know
that
after
this
agenda
item,
we
will
take
a
break
before
we
move
on
to
the
rest
of
the
agenda
city
manager.
It's
all
yours.
D
Thank
you,
Madam
mayor
members
of
the
city
council,
especially
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
for
this
formal
budget
presentation
this
evening.
As
council
members
know,
we
took
a
good
bit
of
time
going
over
preliminarily
the
budget
three
weeks
ago
in
a
study
session
really
for
Community
transparency
purposes.
We
wanted
to
be
back
here
today
to
go
through
the
entire
budget.
With
you
again
not
everybody
in
the
community
got
a
chance
to
watch
the
study
session
and
we
thought
it
was
appropriate
to
do
that.
D
So
and,
as
you
know,
this
is
follow-up
to
our
extensive
budget
discussions
which
did
occur
on
May,
8th
and
following
today's
joint
meeting
with
the
measure.
Jake
Commission,
no
formal
approval
of
items
in
the
budget
are
being
asked
of
the
council
this
evening.
We're
scheduling
that
for
the
council
meeting
on
June,
29th
and
per
state
law
Council
budget
approval
is
required
by
July
1st
of
this
year.
D
So
with
me
today,
for
this
presentation
is
Chris
Mooney,
our
acting
Finance
director
and
Andrew
Neary,
our
budget
manager,
our
executive
budget
committee,
that
includes
assistant
city
manager,
Theresa,
Gallivan
and
Deputy
city
managers,
Flynn,
fagg
and
Jeremy
Hammond
were
also
key
to
this
effort.
Of
course,
our
department
directors
are
all
here
to
answer
any
operational
questions
that
might
come
up
and
really
great
thanks
to
them
and
their
staff
for
their
development.
D
D
You
will
note
in
the
material
we're
presenting
tonight
is
that
is
comprehensive
and
includes
a
number
of
graphical
depictions
of
the
budget
that
we
believe
will
make
it
easier
for
the
public
to
understand
this
complex
subject
matter.
We
want
to
continue
working
in
this
area
to
further
enhance
Community
transparency,
so
attach
for
your
review.
Is
our
staff
report,
the
budget
and
brief
addendum
a
detailed
and
itemized
capital
budget
and
a
detailed,
an
itemized
Airport
Budget?
D
So
let
me
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
budget
highlights
and
challenges
more
than
anything
else.
This
budget
reflects
our
commitment
to
rebuild
the
capacity
necessary
to
carrying
out
our
mission.
The
two
priority
areas
that
you've
asked
us
to
remain
focused
on
include
quality
of
life,
with
a
focus
on
improving
homelessness,
Public,
Safety
and
crime
reduction,
affordable
housing
and
economic
development
and
Community
infrastructure,
with
the
goals
of
improving
City
facilities,
attention
on
the
five-year
Capital
Improvement
plan
and
overall
Community
design
to
rebuild
capacity.
D
D
There's
approximately
seven
million
dollars
budgeted
to
Aid
in
the
renovation
of
the
library
the
library
received
a
grant
in
fiscal
year,
2022-23
for
approximately
6.5
million
dollars
and
in
total
the
city
has
13.5
million
dollars
for
Library
renovation
that
will
be
completed
over
the
next
two
fiscal
years.
The
measure
J
commission
is
expected
to
have
further
discussions
to
potentially
fund
additional
phase.
One
improvements
the
city
remains
committed
to
improving
the
lives
of
its
residents
through
its
affordable
housing
initiative.
D
Previously,
the
city
council
approved
to
set
aside
10
million
dollars
for
affordable
housing
on
April
27
2023.
The
city
council
approved
funding
in
the
amount
of
three
million
dollars
for
the
aloe
Palm
Canyon
project,
leaving
a
balance
of
approximately
7
million
dollars
in
the
set-aside
funds,
which
the
city
has
plans
to
disperse
in
the
fiscal
year.
2324
and
fiscal
year,
24
25
budgets,
along
with
the
affordable
housing
initiative,
providing
resources
to
the
vulnerable
homeless
population
that
calls
Palm,
Springs
home,
has
been
a
top
priority
of
the
city
underway.
D
Is
the
city's
construction
of
a
permanent
navigation
Center
to
temporarily
house
some
of
the
City's
unhoused
population.
The
city
will
be
funding
the
construction
and
some
of
the
operations
with
Grant
funds
from
the
state
prior
to
the
completion
of
the
permanent
navigation
Center.
The
city
continues
to
pursue
additional
opportunities
for
temporary
and
emergency
shelter
needs.
D
In
addition
to
the
navigation
Center,
the
city
is
budgeting.
The
remaining
set-aside
funds
of
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars,
four
million
of
which
was
originally
approved
by
Council
and
fiscal
23
to
further
address,
needs
related
to
the
homeless
population,
such
as
warm
and
cool,
and
warm
centers
and
encampment
cleanup
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
to
see
vague
over
the
next
two
years
for
homeless,
Outreach
Services.
D
The
city
has
been
proactively
working
to
engage
residents
on
becoming
more
sustainable
and
reducing
the
carbon
footprint
of
the
city
in
an
impactful
way.
After
the
success
of
the
city's
first
Turf
conversion
program,
the
city
will
build
on
this
success
by
deepening
the
program
with
the
with
help
from
the
Desert
Water
Authority.
The
program
will
feature
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
funding
for
dwellings,
five
hundred
thousand
for
Homeowner
associations
and
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
low-income
property
owners
to
meet
our
upcoming
carb
requirements.
The
city
will
begin
transitioning
its
Fleet
Replacements
to
EV.
D
Only
as
you
heard
a
short
time
ago,
the
city
is
planning
a
multi-year
project
targeted
at
electrical
upgrades
in
the
installation
of
25
charging
stations,
with
a
cost
of
four
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
dollars
for
the
infrastructure
and
approximately
thirty
thousand
dollars
in
ongoing
expenses.
This
is
in
conjunction
with
a
plan
of
using
four
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
of
the
climate
set-aside
funding
on
electrical
system
design
and
upgrade
work
in
support
of
this
initiative.
D
Keeping
the
city's
main
thoroughfares
open
and
in
safe
working
orders
is
top
of
mind
for
the
city
through
2022
main
roads
have
closed
38
times
for
an
average
of
six
76
days.
In
total,
with
an
estimated
annual
servicing
cost
of
eighty
one
thousand
dollars,
staff
is
recommending
the
purchase
of
an
industrial
motor
grader
to
reduce
the
time
taken
to
clear
away
the
roads
from
sand
and
other
debris,
with
a
cost
of
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
D
An
annual
servicing
cost
of
forty
seven
thousand
dollars
increasing
Street
Maintenance
from
six
million
dollars
to
nine
million
dollars
in
fiscal
24,
funded
by
measure.
J
is
included
for
fiscal
year
2024-25.
The
city
is
creating
a
rapid
response.
Street
repair
team
to
address
troubled
spots
throughout
the
city
for
increased
Readiness
and
safer
road
conditions
through
the
ability
to
Hot
Patch
Street
areas
for
longer
lasting
repairs.
D
D
funding
environmental
initiatives
with
organic
waste
and
street
sweeping
fully
support
full
support
for
continued
convention
center
and
tourism.
Bureau
operations,
220
212
thousand
dollars
annually
in
I.T
reinvestment
with
intergov
for
integrating
permitting
and
Licensing
efficiency,
continued
funding
for
the
world-class
Palm
Springs
International
Film
Festival
funding
to
meet
all
pension
and
labor
contract
obligations
and
a
full
complement
of
Street
Wastewater
projects
and
upgrades
that
will
be
mentioned
later
in
the
capital
budget
presentation
before
wrapping
up
I
wanted
to
make
just
a
couple
of
additional
points.
D
In
the
next
five
to
ten
years,
the
city
will
have
a
significant
amount
of
public
debt
coming
off
our
books
and
and
we've
arranged,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
for
Suzanne
Harrell,
our
longtime
financial
advisor
from
Herald
and
Company
advisors
LLC.
To
give
us
an
update
in
a
few
minutes
on
how
that
can
help
us
similar
to
how
the
downtown
revitalization
financing
project
was
managed.
D
Also,
on
June
29th,
our
finance
team
will
be
bringing
forward
a
reserve
fund
policy
for
your
considered
approval
that
will
work
hand
in
hand
with
Suzanne's
remarks.
That
policy
could
include
plans
for
Capital
replacement
reserves,
infrastructure
and
asset
management
later
in
the
year.
We
want
to
also
bring
forward
a
pension
stabilization
plan
for
your
consideration.
F
Thank
you
very
much.
Scott
appreciate
that
good
evening
mayor
mayor,
Pro,
Tim
council
members,
Scott
stated
we're
going
to
go
over
the
general
fund.
First,
we'll
move
into
the
capital
plan
with
city
engineer,
Joe,
Montalvo
and
then
we'll
finish
after
that,
we'll
go
to
the
budget
or
the
debt
presentation
with
Suzanne
Harrell
and
then
we'll
move
and
finish
up
with
the
airport.
F
I'm
going
to
focus
on
fiscal
year,
24
and
fiscal
year,
25
so
24
begins
in
the
second
column,
total
revenue
Scott
mentioned
199.5
million
dollars
is
what
we're
budgeting
for
total
revenue
in
fiscal
year.
24.
a
couple
of
highlights
on
the
revenue
item,
Revenue
side.
Of
course,
tot
or
Transit
occupancy
tax
always
gets
a
lot
of
attention.
It's
the
largest
revenue
line
item
that
the
city
has.
We
are
anticipated
to
meet
the
target
for
fiscal
year
23,
which
is
about
49.9
million
and
we're
budgeting
about
the
same
amount
of
that
tot
in
fiscal
year.
24.
F
F
Oh
and
tot
Revenue
in
fiscal
year,
24
expected
to
be
budgeted
down
a
little
bit
about
two
percent,
but
we
have
that
increasing
back
up
to
four
and
a
half
percent
at
about
51
million
in
fiscal
year.
25.
F
couple
other
points
on
Revenue
property
taxes
continue
to
steady,
have
steady
growth.
We've
got
two
percent
growth
for
both
fiscal
year
24
and
fiscal
year.
25.
that's
about
31
million
in
fiscal
year
24,
and
about
31.6
million
in
fiscal
year.
25.
utility
users
tax
is
strong.
It's
had
good
growth
over
the
past
couple
of
years,
so
we
expect
that
to
continue
in
fiscal
year,
24
16.6
percent
and
16
or
15.6
percent.
In
fiscal
year
25.
F
You
can
see
the
utility
users
taxes
budgeted
at
about
just
under
21
million
in
24
and
about
24
million
in
fiscal
year.
25
again,
that's
one
of
those
line
items
that
we
get
a
consultation
from
our
Tax
Consultants,
and
so
our
projections
are
in
line
with
what
they
have
given
us
as
their
projections
as
well.
F
Other
sources
of
revenue
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
it
includes
fees
for
City,
Services
or
licensing
and
permits
fines
and
penalties
interest
income.
We
come
up
with
the
budget
on
these
items,
basically
by
trending
the
last
few
years
and
and
putting
in
a
percentage
growth
amount.
F
So
unless
we
know
something
specific
is
going
to
happen
in
one
of
those
areas,
that's
really
based
on
Trends
and
we've
got
about
29
million
in
both
fiscal
year,
24
and
fiscal
year,
25
for
those
other
fees,
miscellaneous
fees,
we're
going
to
touch
on
sales
tax
for
a
little
bit.
Sales
tax
is
about
31.8
million
33.8
million
in
fiscal
year
24
and
it
bumps
up
to
about
35
million
if
fiscal
year
25
small
growth
in
24
and
just
under
four
percent
growth
for
25.
F
Again
another
line
item
that
we
get
our
Tax
Consultants
to
give
us
advice
on,
and
we
take
their
advice
and
and
that's
what
we
use
for
our
budget
just
wanted
to
touch
on
a
couple.
Other
items:
cannabis
Revenue.
It
has
gone
down
the
last
couple
of
years
we're
going
to
continue
that
decline
of
about
five
percent
in
fiscal
year.
24
and
fiscal
year
25.
F
and,
of
course,
as
you
see
in
the
slide,
Grant
revenue
is
coming
down
considerably
from
fiscal
year,
24
to
25..
Most
of
that
Grant
revenue
is
for
the
navigate
construction
and
operation
of
the
navigation.
Center
we've
moved
some
money
in
225
to
support
the
operations
of
the
navigation
Center.
But
that's
why
that's
such
a
big
decline.
There.
F
Slide
just
showing
revenues
by
type
of
course,
property
taxes,
sales
and
use
tax
utility
use
tax
tot
those
four
items
combined
make
up
about
75
percent
of
the
city's
Revenue.
So
we
pay
pretty
close
attention
to
those
line,
items
and
again
use
all
the
resources.
We
can
to
be
sure
that
we're
properly
budgeting.
F
Expenditure
highlights
so
Scott
touched
on
a
lot
of
these
in
his
opening
remarks.
We'll
kind
of
just
hit
him
real,
quick,
total
expenses
for
fiscal
year,
24
that
middle
column
right
there,
and
that
blue
kind
of
bright
blue
line,
total
expenses
for
fiscal
year,
24
budgeted
at
215.9
million
dollars.
That
includes
a
few
things
number
one.
Seven
million
dollars
of
the
remaining
set
aside
for
affordable
housing
is
planning
to
be
spent
over
the
next
couple
of
years.
All
of
the
set-asides
remain
in
the
fiscal
year
24
budget.
F
We
know
that
there's
probably
going
to
be
some
carryover
of
those
set-asides
into
25,
but
we
have
them
all
in
24
in
case
we
need
to
use
them.
So
seven
million
of
the
10
million
original
set
aside
is
going
to
be
used
for
affordable
housing
going
to
continue
to
partner
with
dwa
on
Turf
conversion,
so
that's
budgeted
about
1.2
million
dollars
and
what
LP
hit
on
earlier
for
the
infrastructure
for
the
EV
vehicles
that
the
city
wants
to
buy.
950
000
for
electrical
system,
design
and
infrastructure
for
25
new
charging
stations.
F
F
We
do
have
updated
numbers
since
we
last
presented
the
budget
to
the
council.
We
are
continuing
to
analyze,
we're
continuing
to
make
changes
as
we
find
things
typically
they're,
not
too
material,
but
we
do
find
some
material
items
that
we
expected
numbers
to
change
as
we
continue
to
analyze
before
we
finalize
the
budget
in
a
couple
of
weeks.
Just
a
couple
of
changes
I'll
highlight
here,
that's
the
four
million
dollars
in
Grant
revenue
and
the
four
million
dollars
in
expense.
F
F
and
the
last
big
item
on
the
bottom.
We
found
a
a
few
million
dollars
in
various
accounts.
Most
of
that
money
came
from
some
duplicate,
Grant
expenses
that
we
had
in
fiscal
year,
25
that
were
removed.
That
was
about
two
and
a
half
million
dollars.
F
F
The
next
slide
will
be
Staffing
highlights,
as
Scott
mentioned,
we're
adding
several
positions
over
the
next
couple
of
years,
the
city
plans
to
add
14
positions
in
fiscal
year
24.
those
include
three
firefighter
EMTs,
two
police
dispatchers
and
three
Parks
and
Rec
staff,
and
then
in
fiscal
year,
25
the
city
plans
to
add
12
positions.
They're
listed
out
on
the
in
detail
on
the
left
side
of
the
PowerPoint
presentation.
But
in
fiscal
year
25
we
plan
on
adding
two
police
dispatchers
and
again
three
more
park
and
rec
staff.
F
F
And
this
is
City
Staffing
at
a
glance,
so
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
point
out
where
what
departments
and
what
percentage
of
the
Staffing
they
make
up
of
Total
Staffing,
you
can
see,
we
have
a
police
and
fire
in
the
airport
are
pretty
large
General
government
is
things
like
human
resources
and
finance
and
I.T.
F
So
that's
why
that's
kind
of
combined
in
the
wrong
into
being
a
fairly
large
category,
Parks
and
Rec
at
eight
percent
and
then
the
rest
are,
are
fairly
small
areas,
sort
of
the
same
percentages
that
we
have
in
fiscal
year,
25
as
well
police
jump
up
a
little
bit
fire
about
13
percent,
General
government,
14
percent.
F
F
So
that
First
Column
fiscal
year,
the
the
second
to
the
last
column
fiscal
year
24,
we
begin
with
the
fund
balance
of
112
million
dollars.
We
add
in
operating
Revenue
178.4
million,
there's
the
grant
Revenue
21
million,
which
is
offset
completely
by
Grant
expense
and
a
little
bit
lower
for
total
revenue,
199.5
operating
expenditures,
155.2
million
the
transfers
out-
is
19.7
million
and
just
as
a
reminder,
those
transfers
out
or
transfers
from
the
general
fund
into
other
funds.
F
F
F
So
we're
showing
you
here
what
it
looks
like
as
Scott
said,
the
fund
balance
policy
will
be
in
front
of
the
council.
Like
the
June
29th
meeting,
we
have
a
remaining
unassigned
fund,
balance
of
68.9
million
for
a
total
96
million,
and
then
we
have
our
Calpers
set
aside
at
the
end
of
24
will
be
just
over
40
million
dollars.
We
have
been
adding
6
million
to
that
each
year.
For
the
past
few
years,
fiscal
year
25
we
have
a
beginning
fund
balance
of
96
million,
and
then
we
go
down
to
revenues.
F
I'll
just
go
to
the
totals
191.8
million
in
total
revenue,
160.3
million
in
operating
expenditures,
transfers
out
of
18.7.
So
we
have
an
operating
Surplus
at
the
n25
of
just
over
7
million
dollars
go
down
to
the
fund
balances.
The
proposed
fund
balance
is
17
and
a
half
percent
of
operating
expenditures.
Again
we're
going
to
carry
that
forward
every
year.
That
will
always
be
the
projected
proposed
minimum.
That's
going
to
be
28
million
54
000,
the
remaining
unassigned
balance
in
fifth
year.
F
F
F
All
right,
perfect,
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
into
the
capital
presentation
if
the
council's
okay,
with
that
I'm,
going
to
go
over
the
revenue
and
then
I'll
bring
up
the
city,
engineer,
Jerome
mantovo,
and
he
will
cover
some
of
the
projects
that
we've
got
over
the
next
couple
of
years,
so
just
at
a
high
level
the
revenue
here
these
are
all
of
the
funds.
These
are
all
separate
funds,
most
of
them
restricted
for
a
certain
purpose.
They
make
up
the
funding
for
most
of
the
five-year
CIP
plan.
F
So
all
these
funds
you
see
here
and
expenses
associated
Revenue
Associated-
will
be
used
to
fund
those
five-year
CIP
projects
that
the
Cindy
engineer
manages
on
an
annual
basis.
So
we
have
a
couple
funds
here
that
support
streets
and
transportation.
That's
one
of
the
gas
taxes,
it's
measure
a
and
it's
the
rmra,
which
is
the
road
maintenance
and
Rehabilitation
Act.
It's
another
type
of
gas
tax,
those
all
go
to
support
streets
and
transportation.
We
have
the
drainage
fund
that
goes
to
support
drainage
construction
within
the
city.
F
The
quinby
fund
supports
Parks
and
Rec,
and
then
of
course,
we
just
talked
about
measure.
J,
while
it
can
be
used
for
general
purposes,
we
like
to
use
it
for
Capital
purposes,
infrastructure
projects
and
then,
of
course,
the
capital
fund.
That's
where
a
lot
of
the
major
Road
and
Bridge
projects
sit,
so
the
revenue
and
the
capital
fund
that
38
million
dollars
in
fiscal
year
24.
That's
a
lot
of
that's
going
to
be
reimbursed
revenue
from
Caltrans
for
big
projects
or
or
other
types
of
reimbursable
revenue
for
some
of
our
road
projects.
F
F
As
you
know,
if
it's
reimbursable
Revenue,
it's
going
to
be
based
on
projects,
so
the
big
dip
from
72
and
24
to
55
and
25
is
really
based
on
projects
that
get
more
money
back
in
in
24
than
25.,
we
have
50.6
million
dollars
going
to
expenditures
for
our
capital
projects.
I
just
want
to
note,
too,
that
any
projects
that
are
for
the
airport
are
any
projects
for
our
Wastewater.
Plant
will
come
out
of
those
separate
funds,
and
this
is
really
for
other
use
other
than
our
Enterprise
funds,
so
they
support
those
funds.
I
So
the
fire
CIP
has
over
70
active
projects
and
we're
only
adding
three
new
projects
this
fiscal
year.
The
first
edition
is
an
old
project
that
we
had
been
working
on,
but
it
was
sort
of
shelled
because
there
was
some
Community
input
that
we
needed
to
get
through.
So
that
was
the
rim
Road
widening
project
near
every
the
arabicobe
area.
So
we
we
moved
it
and
we
brought
it
back
and
I
think
we're
able
to
move
forward
with
the
community
and
talk
about
what
the
design
of
Rim
Road
would
look
like.
I
The
second
project
that
was
added.
It
was
added
by
facilities
and
parks
and
the
recreation
department
facilities
and
Parks
and
Recreation
Department
was
the
sunrise,
Park
recycled,
Water
Project,
we're
looking
to
convert
Sunrise
Park
to
all
well
non-portable
or
recycled
water,
so
that
we're
not
using
potable
water
for
that
Park
and
part
of
that
is
a
grant
from
the
dwa
got
for
us
is
I,
believe
it's
about
half
a
million
dollars
and
we're
contributing
the
rest
to
to
the
connections
and
convert
the
park.
I
The
third
project
that
we
added
was
the
city's
contribution
to
Sea
bags,
flooding
and
blow
sand
project
on
the
Indian
Canyon.
It's
a
bridge,
that's
going
to
be
it's
currently
under
design,
and
our
portion
of
the
design
is
we're.
We
have
25
percent
of
the
cost,
so
we'll
be
contributing
to
that.
So
we
brought
that
project
forward
as
well
as
noted
in
in
previous
projects.
Our
costs
are
escalating.
I
So
in
this
fiscal
year
we
we
increased
our
our
request
for
funds
about
30
percent,
so
each
one
of
our
budget
line
items
is
being
increased
by
30
percent
and
the
engine
engineering
department
is
also
growing.
We
were
able
to
hire
a
new
project
manager
that
he
started
a
few
weeks
ago,
so
we
have
a
new
project
manager.
We
made
an
offer
to
a
new
senior
engineer
and
we're
still
working
to
hire
another
associate
engineer,
so
the
department
is,
is
getting
more
staff
to
be
able
to
deliver
the
projects.
I
This
year
we
wanted
not
only
to
to
look
forward.
We
want
to
take
a
moment
to
look
at
what
we're
actually
constructing
and
what
we
have
accomplished
this
year.
So
this
year
we
were
able
to
complete
or
are
going
to
complete
14
projects.
The
list
is
it
before
you
on
the
slide:
I'm
not
going
to
go
over
all
of
them.
But
of
note
is
the
hsip
cycle
7
project
that
upgraded
17
traffic
signals
in
the
city
with
new
technology
upgraded.
I
You
know
just
to
to
save
for
technology
and
we're
working
forward
every
year
trying
to
get
more
hsip
cycle
funding
money
so
we're
actually
constructing
a
will
be
constructing
cycle
eight
soon
the
North
Palm
Canyon
traffic
signal
project
is
almost
complete
as
well.
That's
a
Safety
project
we've
upgraded
the
entire
Corridor
with
new
technology,
the
demuth
and
desert
Highland
parks
and
restrooms
project.
I
So
if,
if
we
continue
at
our
Pace
we're
looking
at
having
well,
we
do
have
70
active
projects
in
different
phases,
and
next
year
we
would
probably
be
able
to
complete
17
projects.
So
one
project,
Southern
construction-
is
the
Indian
Bridge
Project.
That's
a
40
million
plus
dollar
Bridge
Project,
that's
going
to
take
approximately
three
years
to
construct,
so
that
one
is
going
to
be
going
on
for
three
years.
I
While
we
complete
the
entire
project,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
hsip
cycle
8
project
will
build
14,
new
or
traffic
signals
with
upgrading
it
with
new
technology
we're
going
to
be
working
on
the
ballpark
lights
in
the
next
fiscal
year.
It
will.
We
also
anticipate
starting
the
Plaza
theater.
We
are
currently
working
on
the
navigation,
Center
and
we'll
be
working
on
the
storm
drain
line
20,
which
is
a
major
storm
rain
line
infrastructure
project.
I
This
slide
here
is
just
a
visual
representation
of
the
funding
sources
and
where
all
the
projects,
land
and
one
project
I've
noticed.
If
you
look
at
the
biggest
planet,
there
is
the
Vista
Chino
project
that
particular
project.
Once
we
construct
it
is
going
to
be
over
93
million
dollars.
88
of
that
is
federally
funded.
The
arrest
is
funded
by
cvac
and
us,
but
that's
a
major
project
that
will
be
constructed
in
the
next
five
years.
I
F
With
that
I
think
we'll
take
a
short
pivot
and
we're
gonna,
while
they
switch
PowerPoints
on
the
team
switch
PowerPoints,
we're
going
to
have
Suzanne
Harrell
come
up
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
financing
strategies.
Good
timing
after
Capital,
since
we've
got
a
couple
of
large
projects
that
we're
looking
at
so
Suzanne,
is
with
Harold
and
Associates
she's
been
with
the
city
for
30
years.
She's
got
significant
historical
knowledge
that
we
rely
on
all
the
time.
So
with
that
Suzanne
you're
going
to
come
on
up.
AC
Now
these
this
is
not
the
airport
or
the
wastewater
treatment
plant.
This
is
just
really
for
kind
of
basic
general
fund
projects.
You
can
issue
General
obligation,
bonds.
These
are
secured
usually
by
a
property
tax,
you're,
probably
familiar
with
the
school
district
or
the
College
District,
issuing
those,
not
a
lot
of
cities,
issue
General
obligation,
bonds
and
the
city
does
not
have
any
outstanding
at
this
time.
The
typical
way
that
cities
Finance
their
general
fund
infrastructure
is
through
the
use
of
lease
revenue
bonds.
AC
Those
bonds
are
secured
by
lease
payments
paid
by
the
general
fund
for
the
use
and
occupancy
of
some
City
asset.
Whether
that's
you
know
the
parking
structure
downtown
or
the
convention
center.
Those
are
good
examples
of
assets.
The
lease
payments
are
subject
to
annual
appropriation
and
that's
why
we
can
issue
the
bonds
without
violating
any
state
debt
limits.
AC
You
can
allocate
The
Debt
Service
internally
to
other
funds,
like
you
do
with
your
measure,
J
right
now
for
the
for
the
bonds
that
were
issued
to
finance
the
downtown
project
and
again,
you've
used
lease
revenue
bonds,
as
other
cities
have,
for
you
know,
over
30
years.
So
it's
a
tried
and
true
method
of
financing.
General
fund
projects.
AC
The
debt
issuance
project
process
is
so
the
lease
revenue
bonds
are
issued
by
the
financing
Authority,
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
has
a
financing
Authority,
and
it's
made
up
of
all
the
members
of
the
city
council
to
issue
the
bonds
there's
approval
of
the
issuance
by
both
that
financing
Authority
and
by
the
city
council,
and
it
takes
about
60
days
from
kind
of
start.
AC
To
finish,
it
includes
approvals
by
the
council
going
through
the
credit
rating
process,
marketing
the
bonds
to
investors
and
then
selling
the
bonds
and-
and
you
know,
wrapping
up
the
paperwork.
AC
AC
If
you
were
to
borrow
for
10
years,
the
average
interest
rate
would
be
about
2.55
percent
and
the
annual
Debt
Service
for
a
million
dollars
for
every
million
dollars.
You
borrow
would
be
about
a
hundred
and
fifteen
thousand.
You
borrowed
the
same
million
dollars
for
30
years
interest
rates
about
a
little
over
four
percent,
still
pretty
low
in
historical
terms.
Debt
Service
would
be
about
fifty
eight
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
30
years.
AC
Another
significant
financing
cost
can
be
capitalized
interest
because
of
the
the
need
to
secure
the
bonds
with
lease
payments.
In
order
for
the
city
to
make
a
lease
payment,
it
has
to
have
use
and
occupancy
of
the
asset.
So
this
is
particularly
important
when
you're
constructing
a
new
asset
that
you
want
to
use
to
secure.
The
financing
like,
let's
talk,
use
your
fire,
a
new
fire
station
as
an
example.
AC
So
because
you
can't
pay
lease
payments
during
the
construction
period,
you
have
kind
of
three
choices
about
how
to
fund
interest
and
pay
bondholders.
During
that
period
of
time,
you
can
set
aside
money
that
you
already
have
on
hand
and
allocate
it
towards
those
towards
those
payments.
You
can
increase
the
amount
of
the
bond
issue
to
borrow
the
interest
during
that
period
of
time
and
set
it
aside
to
pay
debt
service,
or
you
can
use
a
different
asset
that
you
already
own
and
operate
as
the
asset
to
secure
the
lease
payment.
AC
AC
Other
financing
costs
include
the
cost
of
issuance
for
your
bond
Council,
your
Municipal
advisor
Underwriters.
Most
of
those
fees
are
prefixed.
The
average
cost
is
about
one
percent
of
the
Total
Bond
size
and
again,
if
it's
required
there,
you
might
have
to
fund
a
reserve
fund.
You
don't
have
to
currently
fund
one
of
those
for
your
general
fund
projects,
based
on
your
current
credit
rating
foreign
I,
prepared
a
few
Debt
Service
scenarios.
The
first
thing
I
wanted
to
do
was
kind
of
show
you
what
your
existing
Bond
and
Lease
Debt
Service
structure
looks
like.
AC
You
know
it's
about
13
million
dollars
for
a
few
years,
and
it
goes
down
over
time
as
most
of
your
debt
is
paid
off
by
2036.,
about
3.1
million
of
that
is
paid
by
the
measure
J,
and
that
is
for
the
original
2012
bonds
that
were
issued
for
the
downtown
revitalization
refinanced
a
couple
years
ago,
and
so
the
net
general
fund
cost
is
right.
Now
about
10
million
drops
to
nine,
and
then
you
can
see
when
some
of
the
other
debt
drops
off
until
it's
all
finally
paid
off
in
2036..
AC
So
one
of
the
important
takeaways
from
this
is
that
most
of
your
debt
is
going
to
be.
Your
existing
debt
is
going
to
be
retired
within
the
next
10
years
and
you
really
haven't
issued
any
debt
for
new
capital
projects
for
10
years
and
so
you're
kind
of
in
a
position.
Now,
if
you're
going
to
issue
debt,
there's
there's
some
good
ways
that
we
can
structure
around
your
existing
Debt
Service.
AC
So
I
just
prepared
two
scenarios
just
to
give
you
kind
of
an
example
of
how
we
might
do
that.
I
came
up
with
a
2024
bond
issue
for
50
million
for
a
new
fire
station.
I
assumed
a
two-year
construction
period.
We're
going
to
set
aside
some
measure,
J
money
for
that
capitalized
interest
component.
That
I
mentioned
we'll
use
a
30-year
maturity
and
we'll
have
measure
J
contribute
the
full
Debt
Service.
AC
Until
the
convention
center
debt
Services
paid
in
full,
which
is
in
2035
and
then
the
general
fund
would
pick
up
The
Debt
Service,
a
second
series,
20
million
dollars
for
the
library
project,
again
same
two-year
construction
period,
but
this
time
borrowing
for
the
capitalized
interest,
that's
required
30-year
maturity
and
then
I
just
have
measure
J
contributing
50
of
that
Debt
Service
until
the
measure
J
authorization
expires.
AC
AC
And
in
the
interim
you
can
see
the
Orange
is
where
measure
J
would
probably
pick
up
a
lot
of
the
new
Debt
Service
until
some
of
the
city's
general
fund
net
Debt
Service
goes
away,
and
so
in
this
way
we
can
kind
of
maintain
the
city's
Debt
Service
to
general
fund
expenditure
ratio
without
increasing
it
and
that's
kind
of
that's
going
to
be
a
critical
path.
A
AC
AC
AC
AC
O
You
this
is
very
helpful
and
it's
encouraging
to
know
that
we're
approaching
a
time
where
we
can
take
on
some
additional
debt
what's
the
time
frame
in
terms
of
needing
to
make
decisions
when
it
comes
to
making
taking
on
additional
data.
That's
I
I
see
the
relevance
of
having
the
discussion
while
we're
doing
the
budget,
but
are
we
facing
a
June
30
deadline
that
we
need
to
make
any
decisions
on
this.
D
No
idea,
council,
member
I,
don't
think
there's
any
immediate
decision
making
part
of
this
conversation.
Part
of
this
is
to
start
the
conversation.
Try
to
get
a
framework.
An
idea
from
the
council
are
we
kind
of
on
the
right
track
in
terms
of
our
financing
strategies.
What
we're
really
in
both
of
the
examples
that
the
finance
director
and
our
financial
advisor
mentioned
both
a
library,
renovation
and
a
new
fire
station,
there's
a
significant
amount
of
work,
especially
with
the
fire
station.
D
A
response
time
study
a
look
at
what
the
needs
of
the
fire
department
would
be.
You
know,
what's
the
general
area
that
we
need
to
start
looking
at
if
we're
to
rebuild
a
new
fire
station,
that's
is
going
to
take
a
significant
amount
of
work,
I
anticipate
that
would
go
on
over
the
next
next
12
months
or
so,
and
that's
why
Miss
Farrell
was
talking
about
it.
2024
series
Bond.
D
It's
probably
we're
probably
a
year
away
from
being
ready
to
issue
some
sort
of
meaningful
debt
for
a
fire
station
project
and
same
with
same
with
the
library
project.
You
know
that
we
have
a
significant
amount
of
revenue
for
what
we
might
call
the
first
phase
of
the
library
project,
but
they
have
all
they're
doing
some
an
RFP
for
design
work,
and
we
want
to
kind
of
get
out
of
this.
You
know
we
want
to
really
have
some
good
numbers
with
escalating
costs.
These
days,
where
you
know
just
everybody's
running
up
against
cost
escalations.
D
So
we
want
to
do
this
right.
We
want
to
be
able
to
go
out
and
and
find
out
what
yeah
you
know
what
the
true
costs
are,
what
bids
are
going
to
come
out
at
before
we
can
go
out.
So
when
we
do
issue
the
debt,
we
know
it's
going
to
cover
the
cover,
the
work
that
needs
to
be
done,
so
we're
still,
you
know
we're
still.
Probably
we've
got
12
months
of
work
in
front
of
us
to
get
ready
for
this.
Thank
you.
F
Okay
and
with
the
final
presentation,
we
will
give
the
team
a
minute
to
get
back
to
the
other
PowerPoint
we'll
have
the
airport
budget
presented,
Harry
Barrett,
the
Airport
Aviation
director
I
think,
is
on
zoom,
and
then
we
have
the
assistant
director
here
tonight.
Jeremy
Keating,
who
will
be
presenting
the
budget
I'll,
do
a
quick
review
of
the
revenue
and
then
we'll
turn
it
over
to
Jeremy.
F
the
growth
driven
mainly
by
increased
passenger
traffic
New
concessions
and
airline
rates
budget
expenses
for
fiscal
year,
24,
48.8
million
and
in
fiscal
year
25.
Those
expenses
are
60.4
million.
So
a
couple
of
good
years,
a
couple
of
surplus
years,
night,
13.9
million
in
fiscal
year
24
and
then
in
fiscal
year,
25
8.9
million
and
with
that
I'm
going
to
turn
over
to
Jeremy
he's
going
to
get
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
projects
and
expenses.
AD
AD
200
000
of
Interest
Revenue
has
been
included
into
the
budget
for
fiscal
year
24
and
210
000
for
fiscal
year.
25.
I'm
pleased
to
report
that
our
estimated
fiscal
year,
23
actual
so
show
us
a
surplus
of
19.9
million,
which
represents
a
significant
24
increase
compared
to
the
fiscal
year
23
revised
budget.
This
Surplus
is
a
result
of
our
diligent
efforts
to
improve
our
operations
and
generate
Revenue.
AD
This
plan
includes
identifying
the
best
use
of
vacant
property
and
developing
it
to
generate
additional
revenue
for
the
airport
as
a
result
of
the
successful
financial
performance
and
the
need
to
continue
to
beautify
the
airport
and
the
expanding
operational
needs.
We
are
requesting
an
additional
49
positions
over
the
next
two
fiscal
years
to
help
address
passenger
capacity
and
operational
constraints,
some
of
which
include
three
fire
captains
and
some
sanitations
Representatives.
AD
These
new
positions
will
enable
us
to
provide
better
service
to
our
passengers
and
enhance
our
operations
to
include
improving
the
cleanliness
of
the
airport.
Moreover,
we
have
several
robust
capital
projects
planned
for
the
fiscal
year
24
and
fiscal
year,
25,
which
will
enable
us
to
improve
and
beautify
our
facilities
and
infrastructure
to
better
accommodate
the
needs
of
our
passengers.
AD
This
slide
shows
the
airport
total
passengers
on
a
fiscal
year
basis,
with
the
projected
fiscal
year,
budgets,
24
and
25
escalating
at
a
conservative
one
and
a
half
growth
rate.
One
of
the
primary
reasons
for
our
revenue
and
expenditure
growth
is
the
increased
passenger
traffic
we
have
experienced
over
the
past
year.
Despite
the
challenges
posed
by
the
pandemic,
the
airport
has
seen
a
steady
increase
in
passenger
numbers
as
people
resume
their
travel
plans.
Historically,
our
airport
total
passengers
for
fiscal
year
19
was
two
and
a
half
million.
AD
AD
Revenues
continue
to
increase
as
passenger
traffic
increases
over
fiscal
year.
24
and
25
total
operating
revenues
for
fiskier
24
are
budgeted
at
62.6
million,
an
increase
of
15.4
million
33
percent
over
the
fiscal
year
23
revised
budget,
the
revenue
reflects
three
sources:
Airline
revenue
of
20.1
million
non-airline
revenue
of
36.3
million
and
non-op
operating
coveted
relief,
Grant
revenue
of
6.2
million
fiscal
year.
25
operating
revenues
are
budgeted
at
69.3
million,
an
increase
of
6.6
million,
of
which
26.4
million
represents
Airline
Revenue.
AD
42.8
million
is
from
non-aireline
revenue
when
compared
to
the
fiscal
year,
23
revised
Budget
Airline
Revenue,
expected
to
rise
by
11.8
million
in
fiscal
year
24
as
a
result
of
a
newly
negotiated,
Airline
or
airport
use
and
lease
agreement.
Non-Airline
revenue
is
expected
to
increase
by
4.6
million
or
15
percent
in
fiscal
year
24
as
a
result
of
rental
car
Revenue,
new
retail
food
beverage
concessions
and
parking
Revenue
non-operating
Grant
revenue
is
expected
to
be
exhausted
by
fiscal
year.
25.
AD
Total
operating
Revenue
total
operating
expenditures
for
fiscal
year,
24
budgeted
at
48.7
million,
which
addressed
the
airport's
overall
strategies,
initiatives
and
mandated
obligations
and
reflect
an
increase
of
14.3
million
in
the
fiscal
year,
24
operating
expense
budget
from
fiscal
year
23
revised
budget.
In
addition,
fiscal
year,
25
operating
expenses
are
projected
to
increase
by
4.1
million
over
the
fiscal
year
24
budget.
This
increase
reflects
the
hiring
of
27
new
positions
and
wage
and
salary
increases
required
under
Union
contract
agreements.
AD
The
airport
currently
has
nine
capital
projects
that
are
in
progress
which
include
the
airport
master
plan,
restroom
renovation,
common
use
and
capital
renovation,
carpet
renovation
baggage
claim
and
baggage
handling
system
design.
The
airport
intends
to
pursue
about
42.7
million
in
capital
expenditures
in
fiscal
year
24
and
96
million
in
fiscal
year
25.
In
total,
the
airport
will
request
about
86
million
in
federal
grants
to
fund
the
capital
expenses
expenses.
Some
projects
to
highlight
during
the
years
include
zero
emission
buses
main
terminal
fatcade
and
the
HVAC
infrastructure
replacement.
AD
These
projects
will
include
an
expansion
of
our
terminal
facilities,
upgrading
our
parking
facilities
and
implementing
new
technologies
to
improve
our
operations.
These
upgrades
will
not
only
improve
our
Airport's
functionality,
but
also
its
Aesthetics.
In
addition
to
the
physical
upgrades,
the
airport
Capital
Improvement
projects
will
now
contributed
to
one
percent
Arts
Improvement
to
the
airport.
This
program
will
fund
public
art
installations
that
will
enhance
the
airport's
Ambiance
and
provide
an
immersive
experience
for
our
passengers.
AD
A
AE
No
madame
mayor
I
know
that's
a
pretty
aggressive
budget,
but
Jeremy
did
a
fine
job
of
articulating
it
and
we
will
be
happy
to
take
any
direction
from
you.
Thank.
A
You
very
much
do
we
have
any
comments
or
questions
at
this
time.
Councilmember
Middleton.
O
Thank
you.
This
is
an
aggressive
budget,
but
it's
I
think
a
necessary
one
and
it's
one
I
want
to
support,
but
I
am
going
to
put
out
a
marker
right
at
the
start
that,
with
as
many
major
projects
that
are
being
planned
for
the
airport
project
management
is
going
to
become
absolutely
essential
and
I
I'm,
certainly
asking
for
an
overview
of
your
plans.
O
But
one
of
the
issues
that
we
have
had
previously
and
we're
going
to
hear
more
on
this
subject
from
me
later
is
cost
overruns
not
being
able
to
complete
projects
and
then
finding
that
we
have
completed
a
project
and
we
find
that
we
need
to
go
back
and
redesign.
So
I
think
we
need
to
take
a
very
serious
step
back
and
assess
what
are
are
the
project,
management
skills
and
Staffing
that
we
need
and
I
do
not
believe.
O
AE
Yes,
I'd
be
happy
to
address
that,
so
what
we've
done
is
we
created
an
aggressive
budget
based
on
our
potential
for
grant
funding?
As
you
know,
we
did
have
a
lot
of
resources
flow
to
airports
nationally.
AE
You
know
from
the
bipartic
bipartisan
infrastructure
law,
as
well
as
from
some
of
our
Copic
relief
funds,
most
of
which
we've
exhausted,
in
addition
to
our
regular
entitlement
funding
through
the
FAA.
A
lot
of
that
has
to
be
used
within
a
four-year
period.
So,
while
we're
front
loading
a
lot
of
the
airport
Capital
program
for
24.25,
most
of
that
is
design
work.
We
are
bringing
on
permanent
staff
to
help
project
manage.
AE
We
did
just
hire
an
aviation
planner
as
well
as
a
project
manager
later
this
year,
we'll
be
hiring
a
deputy
director
of
capital
development
for
the
airport
as
well.
We
are
also
Contracting
out
our
project
management,
our
process
or
some
project
management
to
help
achieve
those
goals.
We
don't
expect
this
to
be
done
in
the
next
two
years.
A
lot
of
this
work
is
going
to
be
designed
and
planning
work,
but
we
do
anticipate
that
we
are
going
to
be
able
to
handle
that.
H
AE
We
have
room
for
most
of
them
at
the
airport.
Yes,
we
have
been
space
planning,
we
have
room
in
our
administrative
offices
and
we
do
have
unused
facilities
that
we
are
preparing
for
additional
staff.
I
think
the
biggest
challenge
for
us
is
just
accommodating
our
maintenance
staff
and
we're
working
through
that
process
now,
but
we
do
have
room
for
most
of
our
the
staff
that
we're
requesting
okay.
H
AE
We're
under
design
right
now
to
expand
our
public
parking,
so
it
would
involve
a
renovation
to
lot
a
which
is
just
across
the
street
from
baggage
claim,
as
well
as
basically
a
design
and
build
out
of
an
economy
lot
which
would
be
south
of
the
airport,
where
we
currently
have
the
holiday
or
overflow
lot
that
we
traditionally
use
over
Thanksgiving
and
Christmas.
AE
That's
become
more
of
a
full-time
lot
for
us
now
and
then
we're
also
under
design
and
well
will
be
under
design
and
going
through
the
environmental
process
to
build
an
employee
parking
lot
which
would
be
across
the
the
road
across
from
El
Cielo
from
the
airport.
Okay,.
H
Thank
you
and
then
just
two
other
comments.
Really
one
is
that,
as
you
have
this
increase
in
in
traffic
and
and
Facilities
that
you
ensure
the
interior
design
is
addressed
as
opposed
to
the
facade.
You
know,
we've
had
typically
over
the
years
we
kept
adding
new
things
as
we
needed
it,
and
it
wasn't
always
a
consistent
style
guide
and
I
would
encourage
you
to
have
that
going
going
forward,
and
the
other
thing
is
with
this.
H
Traffic
is,
if
you
could
do
any
increased
efforts
on
on
community
outreach,
particularly
in
terms
of
noise
and
things
with
the
airport
that
that
results
in
the
in
increased
traffic
so
that
it's
they're
taken
into
account.
But
it's
exciting
to
see
this
great
growth,
and
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
AE
D
A
Thank
you
so
Council
I
know:
we've
heard
this
information
before
at
our
budget
study
session.
So
please,
at
this
time.
If
you
have
questions
or
comments,
go
right
ahead.
K
So
a
question
on
the
page
two
item
page
two
cannabis
Stacks.
So
we
showed
3.6
million
and
22.23.
What
was
it
the
year
prior
we're
showing
a
trend
of
going
down
each
year.
Give
me
just
a
minute.
F
F
K
Got
it
thank
you
and
mayor
Pro
tem
just
pointed
out
that
in
one
of
the
tiny
charts
on
page
18,
it's
actually
listed
there.
So
thank
you.
Let's
see
where
do
we
have
it?
I,
don't
see
where
we've
got
funding
set
aside
specifically
for
bicycle
safety,
bicycle
infrastructure
and
safety
for
their
downtown
core
and
key
routes
throughout
the
city
is.
Is
it
included
in
a
line
item
I.
I
I'm
trying
to
find
where
we
have
it,
but
it
we
do,
have
a
local
Road
Safety
plan
and
the
also
The
Pedestrian
streets
master
plan.
Those
are
budgets
that
would
accommodate
those
types
of
projects.
I
In
that
particular
master
plan,
it
shows
how
you
could
upgrade
streets,
how
you
could
make
them.
You
know
pedestrian
and
bicycle
friendly.
So
that's
where
we
have
multiple
projects.
I
know.
We've
been
asked
that
question
of
you
know
you
have
37
projects
and
how
are
you
going
to
get
them
done?
So
that's
where
we
would
fund
those
projects,
and
these
are
yearly
budgets
we're
asking
every
year
we're
asking
for
what
is
a
million
or
a
million
and
a
half
dollars.
I
Joel,
what
page
is
that?
That's
in
the
actual
in
the
actual
Capital
brought
Capital
project
schedule,
which
is
item
it's
on
page
78,
and
it's.
K
I
K
So
do
we
have
any
idea
what,
if
we're
we're
generating
eighteen
thousand
dollars
in
sign,
permit
Revenue?
Do
we
have
any
idea
how
much
it
cost
us
the
administrative
cost
to
collect
that
eighteen
thousand
dollars
in
in
Revenue.
F
Not
at
any
particular
detail,
we
we
do
do
a
high
level
analysis
about
all
the
fees
the
building
department
collects
and
all
the
fees
the
parks
and
recs
collects,
and
we
just
be
sure
that
that
we
don't
exceed
the
cost
of
those
departments.
So
it's
a
really
high
level
analysis,
but
we
don't
have
any
detailed
analysis
that
gives
us
Direction
on
the
actual
cost.
For
that
and.
F
K
Right
so
when
we
go
back
to
discuss
the
permit
fees
and
parks
and
recs
Parks
and
Rec
fees
in
general,
that's
coming
up
again
how
how
what
do
we
need
to
ask
you
for
to
get
more
detailed
analysis
of
what
what
our
true
costs
are
for
delivering
the
services
versus
what
we're
collecting
yeah.
F
That's
that's
it's
a
pretty
detailed
analysis
and-
and
it
can
get
lengthy
depending
on
you
know
how
far
we
want
to
go
down
that
path.
Initially,
we
could
probably
do
some
of
the
fees
and
take
some
of
the
direct
costs
associated
with
fees,
for
example
a
camp.
You
know
Personnel
that
work,
that
camp
hundred
percent
cost
of
t-shirts
cost
of
performers,
whatever
we
could
probably
get
that
stuff
tilt.
F
It
still
takes
a
little
bit
of
time
because
our
cost
structure,
as
you
see
in
the
budget,
just
doesn't
adaptable
to
that
kind
of
analysis
very
quickly.
So
we
had
to
take
some
time
have
to
work
with
the
Parks
and
Rec
Department
to
be
able
to
get
that
together,
but
it's
something
that
we
could
do
just
just
it
takes
a
little
bit
in
it.
You
know
it's
because
it's
sort
of
that
next
level:
analysis,
yeah,
okay,
all.
K
F
F
K
So
I
I'd
like
to
suggest
and
request
from
Council
that
we
add
in
membership
in
the
desert,
Business
Association,
which
we
don't
have
included
in
the
budget
and
and
that's
that's
a
ten
thousand
dollar
membership
that
I.
Don't
we
don't
have
a
membership
in,
but
we
have
one
in
the
regular
chamber
so
I
think
that's
a
investment
well
worth
the
funds.
K
Under
page
28
special
projects
fund
directly
underneath
the
Quimby
act
fund.
What
is
that
What
fault?
What
would
fall
into
that?
2.9
Million
ending
fund
balance
in
23.
F
K
Another
one
is
we're
coming
up,
we're
going
to
talk
about
it
later.
So
this
is
the
cart
before
the
horse,
but
I
think
since
we're
talking
in
budget
I,
I
need
to
bring
it
up
and
that's
we
don't
have
money
available
for
Education
Outreach
training,
Workshop
development
for
our
street
vendor
ordinance
that
we're
anticipating
we're
going
to
pass
coming
up.
So
how
do
we?
How
do
we
indicate
the
funds
or
set
aside
funds
somewhere
in
this
budget?
K
So
we've
got
that,
though,
those
funds
available
for
this
educational
component
that
we're
definitely
going
to
want
to
be
able
to
to
support
whether
it's
through
printed
material,
digited
material.
You
know
a
staff
position
to
assist
from
the
economic
development
side
and
and
code
to
help
walk
through
the
process
to
obtain
the
permits.
Yeah.
F
K
Yeah,
okay,
that
makes
sense.
Okay,
I
think
that
that
was
it
for
me
for
right
now.
Thank
you.
Thank.
O
My
comments
are
are
actually
going
to
be
fairly
brief.
I
think
this
is
a
very
strong
budget
and
one
that
I
look
forward
to
voting
to
support
what
it
does
reflect
is
the
strength
of
the
Palm
Springs
economy,
and
if
you
look
back-
and
we
get
some
great
exhibits,
that
show
us
trend
lines
over
the
last
eight
years
and
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
those.
But
in
that
eight
year
period
we
have
seen
revenues
grow
from
142
million
to
over
186
million
dollars.
O
O
Some
of
the
things
that
it's
made
possible
is
taking
police
department
budgets
from
30
to
45
million
dollars,
fire
department
budget
from
17
to
29
million
dollars
in
a
Parks
and
Recreation
Department
budget
from
8
to
16
million
dollars,
so
we're
investing
resources
where
they
need
to
be,
and
so
I
am
I,
am
just
very
pleased
and
appreciative
staff,
but
I
want
to
do
a
shout
out
to
our
business
community
that
is
generating
the
revenues
that
are
allowing
us
to
invest
in
our
cities.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you,
I,
remembered
I
did
have
something.
Thank
you.
So
there's
a
long
presentation
I
just
wanted
to
support
the
request
by
a
council
member
de
heart
for
food,
vendor
Outreach
I
think
that's
an
excellent
idea
and
something
that
Council
had
discussed.
J
I
also
just
want
to
lift
up
what
I
did.
Last
time,
I
made
most
of
my
comments
on
the
budget
at
the
last
meeting,
but
I
had
talked
about
my
requests
that
Council
reduce
cannabis
fees.
I
know
that
we
talked
about
pushing
that
with
a
comprehensive
study
later
in
the
year,
but
I
would
love
to
see
how
that
would
you
know,
impact
the
budget
and
if
we
need
to
plan
for
it
and
then
lastly,
I'd
like
to
I,
appreciate
the
position
for
economic
development
being
included
in
this
budget.
J
However,
I
strongly
believe
that
it
should
be
a
director
level
position
or
even
hire
someone
with
really
good
experience
and
expertise
and
high
level
Economic
Development
we've
talked
about
this
position
for
over
three
or
four
years.
J
Originally
we
had
listed
an
ACM
assistant
city
manager,
position
level
and
I
really
think
that's
what
it's
going
to
take,
because
the
reason
our
budget
looks
like
this
now
is
because
the
city
council,
you
know
10
15
years
ago
and
City
staff-
had
the
foresight
for
economic,
develop
development
to
do
a
tot
incentive
to
do
measure
J
to
invest
in
downtown
and
that's
why
we
have
the
budget
and
the
revenue
we
have
today,
and
so
we
need
City
staff
at
a
director
level,
not
an
assistant
director
or
a
hire
to
be
doing
this
Economic
Development
and
supporting
it
through
the
city.
J
So
I
know
Pro,
mayor,
Pro,
Tem
Bernstein
has
talked
a
lot
about
a
business
liaison
position
and
other
Economic
Development
positions
and
I
support
that
as
well.
I
just
wanted
to
lift
up
that
staff
should
really
take
a
look
at
you
know
what
we
had
planned
for
in
those
positions
and
and
trying
to
potentially
budget
for
more,
since
we
really
need
to
hire
some
high
level
thinking
so
that
we
can
continue
the
budget
growth
and
revenue
growth
continue.
J
Innovative
programs,
like
the
tot
incentive
program
and
more
so
I,
look
forward
to
to
bringing
this
forward.
Thank
you
to
staff
for
all
your
work
and
the
detailed
presentation
again
for
the
community.
I
know
it's
a
very
detailed
budget
and
it's
great
to
do
that
again
for
the
public,
so
everyone
fully
understands
it.
So
thank
you.
Those
are
all
my
comments.
H
Thank
you
very
much
Chris.
This
is,
and
everybody
else
is
very
comprehensive.
I
want
to
pick
up
on
a
few
things
that
my
fellow
council
members
have
raised.
Thank
you
councilmember
holstich
for
bringing
up
the
economic
development
so
which,
which
I
have
brought
before
I,
just
want
to
clarify.
When
you
did
this
Staffing
report,
what
percentage
was
on
economic
development,
I.
H
One
percent
and
75
to
85
percent
of
our
Revenue
comes
from
our
business
community,
so
I
think.
That's
the
reason
why
we
need
to
make
sure
we
have
this
additional
budget
for
economic
development.
I
agree
with
councilmember
depart
that
we
need
somebody
with
the
food
with
the
vendors
Street
vendors,
but
we
actually
don't
have
a
business
real
someone
who's
solely
a
business.
There
is
on
for
a
regular
business
Community
either
or
existing
29
000
businesses
that
we
have
in
the
city.
H
So
this
is
you
know
this
comes
up
every
time
and
we
need
this
liaison.
We
need
some
for
all
of
our
new
businesses
and
we
need
a
high
senior
level.
So
I
am
going
to
continue
to
push
that
we
have
a
significantly
expanded,
Economic,
Development,
Department
and
senior
level,
especially
as
we
go
into
at
best
uncertain
times
at
worst,
potentially
recessionary
times.
H
I
want
to
also
just
I
asked
a
question
in
my
questions
beforehand
about
whether
we
had
enough
Parks
maintenance,
I
know
Yvonne
is
here,
and
the
answer
is
bought.
I
got
was
that
we
have
a
sufficient
budget,
we've
been
behind
in
our
Parks
maintenance
and
we're
often
catching
up
and
I
know
we're
all
getting
lots
of
emails
about
lights
out
and
things
that
are
a
problem.
Do
we
have
enough
in
the
budget
for
Parks
maintenance.
AF
So,
thank
you
Yvonne
wise
Parks
and
Recreation
director
for
the
record.
Yes,
we
do
believe
for
fy24
and
fy25.
We
have
the
right
level
of
funding.
A
lot
of
the
issues
were
Staffing
related
for
us
to
be
able
to
complete
the
projects
in
a
timely
manner.
So
we
also
have
a
request
for
Staffing
as
well.
Okay,.
H
H
It
was
in
the
report,
and
this
is
not
for
you
for
the
fire
station
that
you
are
including
the
tribe
and
the
discussions.
Will
we
make
any
specific
requests
to
them
either
for
land
or
funding
or
assistance.
D
Mayor
Pro,
tem
yeah,
we've
already
had
conversations
with
on
that
topic
about
engaging
with
the
tribe
I
think
historically,
the
tribe
may
have
even
purchased
on
behalf
of
the
fire
department,
one
of
our
fire
engines.
In
the
past
years,
we've
had
a
terrific
relationship
with
them
over
the
years
and,
as
we
I
know,
our
police
chief
and
our
fire
chief
are
even
having
meetings
with
them
this
week.
D
H
H
I
know
we
found
that
one
for
the
boys
and
girls
club,
cannabis,
Center
and
there's
sort
of
odd
ones
that
we
may
not
know
about.
Do
we
have
enough
resources
going
out
for
Grants.
AG
We
can
certainly
we
don't
have
to
only
go
through
Townsend,
but
if
we
have
yeah
Townsend
public
affairs,
they
are
our
grant.
Writing
Partners.
We
have
a
contract
with
them.
If
we
know
of
grants
that
we
learn
about
in
the
community
local
grants,
we
can
certainly
let
them
know,
and
they
will
help
us
with
them
as
well.
So.
H
AG
Don't
and
they
do,
they
do
keep
an
eye
on
that
they've
met
with
all
of
our
department
heads
about
what
we're
looking
for.
So
they
know
what
our
projects
and
priorities
are
via
the
council's
decisions,
and
they
do
keep
an
eye
out
for
them.
We
get
regular
reporting
and
have
monthly
meetings
with
them.
Staff
are
meeting
with
them
more
often
if
they
have
something
active
going
on
with
them,
but
we
are
monitoring
that
on
a
regular
basis.
Okay,
all.
H
Right
I
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
a
priority
and
they
understand
that
we
really
want
to
see
some
results.
I
want
to
also
thank
Council
the
heart
for
raising
the
bike.
Safety
and
I
would
like
to
see
a
specific
bike
separated
bike.
Lane
project
come
forward
relatively
soon,
so
the
community
can
see
what
the
benefit
is.
I
know
we
have
a
budget
there.
H
I,
don't
know
that
we
have
anything
specific
I
know
a
while
ago,
councilmember
Middleton
had
raised
one
and
so
that
we
can
work
on
going
forward
with
bike
safety,
but
I
think
if
we
had
one
completed
project
to
show
what
works
with
the
separated
bike
lane,
it
would
be
a
lot
easier
for
the
community
and
the
city
to
understand
the
benefits.
So
that
is
something
I'd
like
to
see
and
then
on
a
smaller
level.
I
just
want
to
ask
on
page
21,
The
Village,
Fest
Revenue
to
the
city
is
170,
000
and
I.
F
H
Don't
think
most
people
know
so
I,
don't
know
how
this
budget
comes
in,
but
I
was
at
Village,
Fest,
Retreat
meeting
and
basically
I
think
there's
some
volunteer
people
doing
their
social
media.
Okay
on
the
commission
and
I
would
think
we
should
have
an
outside
agency
I,
don't
know
what
that
would
cost
for
a
year
or
50
000
a
year
or
something,
but
to
highlight
the
local
businesses
are
there.
We've
had
great
success
stories
of
local
businesses
becoming
brick
and
mortar,
or
going
on,
and
so
I
don't
know.
H
Is
this
under
Parks
too
sorry
yeah,
so
so
the
the
question
is
for
a
specific
Village,
Fest,
promotional,
digital
Market
or
agency,
an
outside
per
agency.
AF
So
in
the
budget
for
fy24,
we
have
requested
an
additional
twenty
thousand
dollars
for
advertising.
The
advertising
budget
for
this
current
fiscal
year
was
five
thousand
dollars.
So
with
a
total
of
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
for
the
next
fiscal
year,
the
intention
was
to
do
a
marketing
plan.
Now
what
you're
describing
is
a
little
bit
different
that
wasn't
fully
considered
in
the
marketing
plan.
AF
So
with
that
twenty
five
thousand
dollars,
while
it's
will
get
us
more
promotion
and
more
visibility
than
we
currently
have
I,
think
it
will
be
a
little
short
of
what
your
vision
is.
H
Well,
I'd
like
to
see
50
000
in
the
budget,
then
for
and
specifically
because
we
have
so
many
great
to
focus
on
the
vendor.
The
small
business
businesses
who
are
there
and
what
they
bring
to
it,
which
also
I
think,
would
help
attract
other
vendors
when
they
see
you
know,
there's
there's
a
who
is
actually
at
our
street
fair
that
they
would
come
and
want
to
be
on
the
participate
because
I
know
at
times
we
have
shortages
of
vendors
out
there
and
I
think
they
don't
always
see.
Who
is
there?
H
O
Very
quickly
on
bicycle
safety
and
I
certainly
support
anything.
We
can
do
to
highlight
what
we
are
doing
more
effectively
in
our
budget,
but
at
the
end
of
our
session
this
evening,
when
it
comes
to
pedestrian
and
bike
safety,
I'm
going
to
make
some
recommendations
regarding
activities
that
I
think
we
need
to
do
going
forward.
K
I
K
Cooking
program,
so,
if
we're
going
to
do
something,
it's
got
to
be
on
your
radar
and
in
your
list
of
70
upcoming.
Well.
K
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you
and
city
manager.
I
didn't
I,
hear
you
say
it
during
your
presentation,
something
about
assistant
city
manager,
level,
position
tied
to
Economic
Development.
What
was
that
hearing.
D
K
D
Right
that
we're
we're
doing
the
recruitment
for
that
position
as
we
speak,
but.
K
And
but
we're
gonna,
it's
changing
to
be
all
of
Palm
Springs.
We.
D
Could
Envision
certainly
having
that
position
take
on
a
wider
scope
throughout
the
city,
yeah.
K
Okay,
all
right,
so
those
are
those
are
happening.
The
only
other
item
that
I
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
is
that
that
you're
you're
covered
in
your
department
with
you
know
with
that.
The
analyst
level
position
that
that
we
we
know
we
we
want
to
have
coming
out
of
the
city
manager's
office
and-
and
it
sounds
to
me
like
maybe
it's-
this
economic
development
person
may
be
part,
take
on
part
of
that
analyst
role
to
analyze
projects
and
and
items
that
come
through
your
office.
Yeah.
D
I
mean
we're
certainly
looking
at
trying
to
build
capacity
with
the
city.
As
several
council
members
have
mentioned,
you
know
we're
in
a
growth
mode.
We
got
a
lot
of
great
stuff
going
on
at
the
airport,
we're
building
on
tourism,
there's
opportunities
out
along
the
the
10
freeway
with
zero
emission
technology
and
sustainable
energy
technology.
So
a
lot
of
things
are
are
going
on.
We
want
to
just
be
positioned
to
take
advantage
of
that
and
and
be
forward
thinking
about
it.
D
You
know
what
exactly
is
the
right
position
is,
you
know,
is
something
I've
been
giving
a
lot
of
thought
to
and
trying
to
figure
out
how
it
fits
into
our
organization.
So
you
know,
all
of
your
comments
are,
are
well
well
made
and
something
that
I'm
thinking
a
lot
about.
Yeah.
K
Excellent
and
I
think
there's
support.
Council
wants
to
support
your
effort
and
you
being
able
to
really
you
know,
carry
out
your
job
to
the
greatest
extent
you're
going
to
be
able
to
so.
K
Please
do
you
know
come
back
to
us
with
any
any
new
desire
and
Chris
Kudos
the
whole
team
that
produced
the
the
budget
and
and
for
the
community
to
understand
this
is
the
first
time
we've
had
a
two-year
budget
come
through,
so
this
process
just
started
for
our
team
just
a
handful
of
months
ago
and
they've
they've
moved
mountains
to
make
this
happen
and
and
I
I
think
you
all
have
done
a
great
job
and
to
everybody
who's
been
involved.
Thank
you
for
the
the
effort
that
you
put
into
it.
J
Thank
you
I
appreciate
that
I
just
want
to
clarify
so
I
heard
the
city
manager
say
deputy
director
position
in
Economic
Development,
so
I
take
that
to
mean
under
a
department
head.
Can
you
just
clarify
what
you
mean
and
the
the
level
there
in
the
chain
of
command.
D
Yes,
council,
member
right
now,
the
chief
economic
development
functions
would
be
under
our
community
and
Economic
Development
Division,
however
part
of
it
is,
is
taking
a
a
real
good
look
at
all
of
our
functions.
We
have
all
of
our
staff
and
community
and
economic
development
department,
in
my
opinion,
are
really
we
have
positions
to
fill.
We
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do.
They're
doing
everything
from
Arts
commission
work
to
trying
to
look
at
bigger,
Economic
Development
projects,
they're
doing
affordable
housing
they've
got
a
lot
on
their
plate
and
I
just
think.
D
In
general.
We
need
to
bring
more
capacity
to
all
of
our
operations
in
those
areas.
Our
director,
Jay
verata,
is
doing
a
terrific
job,
trying
to
juggle
a
lot
of
different
projects,
including
navigation,
centers
and
everything
else.
So
there's
a
lot
on
their
plate
and
I
just
I
I.
It
I
think
the
council
into
heart,
councilman
bernst,
everybody
on
Council,
you've
all
said
we
need.
We
need
more
capacity
and
I
I
agree
with
you.
So
we're
look
we're
you
know.
D
J
Thank
you,
so
we're
just
I
appreciate
that
we're
many
years
into
that
process,
and
so
we
had
worked
with
two
different
city
managers,
we
being
City
Council
subcommittee
on
restructuring,
so
that
I
think
it's
just
too
much
to
ask
one
Department
to
do
housing,
homelessness,
Economic,
Development
and
so
you're.
Saying
that
this
that
position
would
work
under
I,
don't
mean
to
build
belabor
the
point
but
you're
saying
it
would
work
under
an
existing
director,
and
so
we
had
thought
out
and
I'm
happy
to
have
those
conversations.
J
We
just
right
now
need
to
allocate
the
right
amount
of
budget
for
the
staffing
position.
We
had
gone
out
and
tried
to
hire
someone
to
do
Economic
Development,
and
we
realized
that
we
needed
to
to
pay
more
and
really
separate
out
those
departments,
because
we
found
in
the
job
market.
You
know
better
than
I
in
hiring
for
these
roles.
You
know
the
expertise
is
different
for
someone
who
housing
or
homelessness
or
Economic
Development
so
agree
that
we
need
to
rethink
how
those
departments
are
structured
and
what
the
Staffing
you
know.
J
Structure
is
for
that.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
enough
money,
and
you
know
we're
allocating
properly
to
fully
fund
and
staff
that
department.
Thank
you
and.
D
Council
member
I
can
I
appreciate
your
your
comments
greatly.
You
know,
I,
don't
know
about
the
last
two
years,
I'd
like
to
figure
this
out
in
the
next
two
months,
so
you
know
I'm
a
little
impatient
once
once
this
budget
gets
approved
and
we
know
we
have
some
positions.
I'd
like
to
you
know
we'll
sit
down
with
the
staff.
I
need
to
get
their
expertise.
I
want
to
figure
out
what
works
best
for
the
organization
and
and
get
their
expertise.
They've
been
here
a
lot
longer
than
I.
D
A
Do
we
have
any
final
comments
from
Council
all
right,
so
appreciate
all
of
your
hard
work
on
this?
This
is
a
two-year
budget
which
is
great
for
us
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
we're
really
focusing
and
prioritizing
the
issues
that
this
particular
Council
cares
about
and
that
we
have
learned
from
the
community
over
the
last
several
years.
A
That
doesn't
mean
that
we
won't
be
revisiting.
This,
we'll
be
looking
at
it
on
a
regular
basis,
we'll
be
able
to
still
fund
more
specific
projects
over
the
next
two
years
and
then
we'll
have
a
new
Council
and
we'll
do
our
vision
session
again
and
we'll
come
up
with
a
brand
new
two-year
budget
based
on
that
new
Council.
So
it's
it's
all
very
exciting
and
I
I
think
just
for
the
public.
A
This
is
now
is
the
time
if
you
do
have
any
comments
regarding
our
budget,
because
we
will
be
approving
it
at
our
next
council
meeting
on
June
29th.
So
if
you
have
comments,
please
write
in
to
us
or
if
you
have
questions,
please
also
write
in
to
us,
so
that
we
we
can
make
sure
that
everyone
is
is
really
happy
with
what
we
have
in
front
of
us
with
that
we
are
going
to
take
an
eight
minute
break.
AH
Thank
you
for
getting
that
all
out,
Madam
mayor
good
evening,
mayor
mayor,
Pro,
tem
and
members
of
council.
This
item
is
returning
to
you
tonight
and
is
a
request
by
Celine
Palm
Springs
to
amend
the
prior
approved
plans
for
the
Dream
Hotel
first
approved
in
2007.
AH
I'm,
going
to
first
focus
on
the
changes
to
the
site
plan
that
have
occurred
since
your
discussion
on
May
11th.
When
you
last
discussed
this
item,
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
you
also
discussed
the
accompanying
settlement
and
development
agreement
and
gave
some
feedback
on
changes.
You
would
like
to
see
to
that.
Our
attorney
Elizabeth
Hall
is
present
and
she
will
give
you
an
update
on
those
concluding
my
presentation.
AH
AH
As
I
mentioned,
the
project
has
seen
many
revisions
over
the
years,
but
the
most
recent
iteration
up
for
consideration
was
narrowly
focused
on
two
areas:
for
residential
development
that
would
have
increased
the
overall
number
of
units
from
40,
as
approved
in
2019
to
65..
The
hotel
itself
was
to
remain
unchanged
at
156
rooms,
as
I
mentioned.
The
council
first
considered
this.
AH
AH
The
most
notable
change
that
I
will
focus
on
tonight
is
in
the
area
of
the
north
Villas,
which
had
been
redesigned
in
response
to
council's
Direction
and
feedback
from
the
community
to
include
one
primary
condominium
building,
which
will
be
on
the
west
side
of
the
site,
immediately
adjacent
to
Caye
Alvarado
and
then
a
reconfiguration
of
the
area
immediately
to
the
west
and
adjacent
to
Center
Court
into
three.
A
single
unit.
Villas
and
I'll
talk
more
about
this
in
just
a
second
with
some
visuals.
AH
AH
There
will
be
an
increase
overall
of
four
residential
units,
so
instead
of
the
65
units
that
was
proposed
when
you
saw
this
on
May
11th,
there
are
now
69
units
included
in
the
overall
development
plan,
and
this
this
is
primarily
as
a
result,
a
result
result
of
the
redesign
of
the
north
Villas,
which
has
gone
from
12
to
16
total
units
13
in
that
five-story
condominium
building
I
mentioned,
and
then
the
three
one
unit
villas
for
a
total
of
16..
AH
Since
there
was
much
discussion
around
the
evolution
of
the
building,
Heights
I've
included
this
chart
here
to
sort
of
show
how
that
Evolution
has
occurred
over
the
years
again,
focusing
on
just
the
north
Villas,
which
is
the
middle
row
here.
The
new
residential
building
along
Calle
Alvarado
is
proposed
to
be
10
feet
higher
than
what
you
previously
saw
on
May
11th,
coming
in
at
56
feet.
AH
However,
the
height
on
the
other
sort
of
half
of
that
North
Villa
site,
the
portion
immediately
adjacent
to
Center
Court,
has
dropped
from
what
was
previously
for
46
feet,
as
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission
down
to
23
feet
and
those
those
Villas
as
you'll,
see
in
just
a
moment,
are
one
to
two
stories.
So
they
sort
of
have
a
portion
of
the
building.
AH
AH
You
can
see
here
the
plan
on
the
left
that
was
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission
at
their
meeting
last
late
last
year,
and
that
showed
the
sort
of
you
know
much
larger
buildings
up
here
in
this
corner
adjacent
to
Center
Court,
which
they
approved
at
46.2
feet,
and
you
can
see
over
here
now
you
have
a
much
smaller
five-story
building
again
concentrated
over
here
on
this
Calle
Alvarado
Frontage,
and
then
these
three
Villas
right
here
and
as
I
mentioned
no
major
changes
to
these
South
Villas
down
here.
AH
I
do
want
to
point
out.
One
change
has
been
made
in
this
area,
so
there
were
previously
24
parking
spaces
contained
here
that
were
associated
with
The,
Farmhouse
and
event
space.
Those
have
been
eliminated
because
they
are
no
longer
needed
with
the
elimination
of
those
spaces,
so
they
are
not
there.
So
you
DC
an
overall
reduction
in
the
amount
of
parking
on
the
site
down
to
303
units
total,
and
that
is
because
of
the
reduction
of
those
parking
spaces
in
that
location.
AH
This
plan
highlights
again
some
of
the
distances
between
the
Center
Court
residences,
since
this
was
a
focus
of
our
discussion.
Last
time
and
the
north
Villas,
as
you
can
see,
the
shortest
distance
between
between
the
property
line
and
a
villa
down
here
is
39
feet,
and
so
that's
the
distance
between
the
property
line
and
the
closest
portion
of
that
that
building.
If
you
actually
measure
the
distance
between
buildings,
because
there's
a
20-foot
yard
here
behind
Center
Court,
it's
actually
59
feet
between
the
building
and
the
nearest
Center
Court
residence
up
in
this
portion.
AH
What
we
call
Villa
B
it
actually
increases
to
76
feet.
What
I
wanted
to
highlight
here
most
of
all
was
again
this.
This
portion
of
the
building
that
is
up
to
five
stories
is
actually
located
over
200
feet
from
the
closest
building
in
Center
Court.
So
I
think.
With
these
revisions,
they've
tried
to
respond
to
Residents
concerns
by
focusing
the
height
as
far
away
from
the
Center
Court
residence
as
possible
and
again
keeping
the
height
adjacent
to
them
more
in
context
with
what
you
see
in
the
center
Court
development.
AH
I
also
wanted
to
highlight
some
of
the
visual
or
visualize
some
of
the
sight
line,
changes
that
have
occurred
over
time,
so
the
image
on
the
top
shows
the
2019
comparison
to
what's
proposed
today.
What's
proposed
today,
is
really
shown
here
in
section
in
the
black
line
behind
it
in
that
sort
of
hatched,
red
line
is
what
was
approved
in
2019..
AH
The
I
think
it's
blue
line
that
kind
of
comes
up
here,
where
the
the
sight
lines
that
would
have
happened
from
those
Center
Court
buildings
as
a
result
of
what
was
approved
in
2019..
You
can
see
that
with
the
reduction
in
the
heights,
this
green
line
here
now
represents
what
the
sight
lines
will
look
like
as
com.
AH
If
the
as
the
project
is
proposed
today,
so
you
can
see
you're
getting
sort
of
more
of
that
visual
to
the
west,
but
actually,
more
importantly,
is
the
bottom
image,
and
that
really
is
comparing
the
original
2022
proposal
that
was
before
you
earlier
in
May
to
what
is
proposed
now
so
again,
the
hatch
behind
the
black
lines
is
what
was
originally
before
you
on
May
11th
and
the
black
lines
are
showing
what
is
proposed
now,
and
you
can
see
a
much
more
dramatic
difference
in
those
sight
lines,
the
green
line
being
what
would
occur
as
a
result
of
these
changes
and
the
blue
being
what
would
have
occurred
as
originally
presented
to
you,
and
you
can
see
that
a
lot
more
of
that
west
facing
view
is
preserved
as
a
result
of
these
changes.
AH
This
is
just
another
image,
just
showing
the
overall
ground
floor
plan.
You
can
see
some
of
the
landscaping
and
sort
of
the
configuration
of
the
Villas
at
the
the
other
buildings
to
the
west,
and
here
just
kind
of
showing
that
you
get
more
open
space
as
a
result
of
these
changes
as
well.
AH
So
I
think
we've
gone
up
to
about
73
open
space
overall
on
the
site,
which
is
shown
also
in
this
figure,
so
that
bottom
row
shows
the
open
space
that
had
originally
been
around
60
we've
bumped
that
up
quite
a
bit
with
the
elimination
of
that
parking
at
the
event
space
as
well
as
the
you
know,
the
the
changes
to
the
north
Villa
site.
AH
Overall
again,
the
the
number
of
residential
units
is
currently
proposed
at
69,
with
303
total
parking
spaces,
no
change
to
the
hotel
use
at
156
units
and
with
that
staff,
our
recommending
approval,
as
amended
and
in
your
package
tonight,
and
we
are
available
for
any
questions.
We
can
pause
here
for
questions
related
to
the
planning
entitlements
if
you
wish,
or
we
can
move
into
an
update
on
the
settlement
agreement
if
Elizabeth
is
on
the
call.
AI
Good
evening,
mayor
and
Council,
can
you
hear
me
yes
excellent?
So
we
just
wanted
to
update
you
briefly
on
the
settlement
agreement
during
our
previous
council
meeting,
a
number
of
issues
were
raised
and
you
had
asked
us
to
go
back
and
speak
with
the
developer
and
their
Council
about
some
changes
to
the
agreement
that
you
wanted
considered.
The
first
related
to
the
unavoidable
delay
provision.
The
council
was
interested
in
deleting
the
phrase
and
inability
to
obtain
labor
and
materials
from
the
avoidable
delay
provision.
AI
The
developers
team
was
not
receptive
to
that.
They
took
the
position
that
we
had
discussed
previously,
which
was
that
it
means
an
a
total
inability,
and
so
you
know
just
having
a
hard
time
getting
something
wouldn't
qualify
or
you
know,
result
in
a
force
measure
provision
and
therefore
they
didn't
think
the
change
was
necessary.
AI
AI
They,
as
I
indicated
during
our
last
meeting
I,
had
raised
that
with
them
a
number
of
times
previously,
and
they
had
rejected
that
they
again
have
rejected
that
change.
They
are
not
interested
in
putting
up
a
bond
or
a
personal
guarantee,
taking
the
position
that
they
already
have
somewhere
north
of
40
million
dollars.
AI
I,
don't
have
an
exact
number,
that's
just
the
number
they
provided
invested
in
the
project
and
will
eventually
have
somewhere
in
the
area
of
200
million
dollars,
invested,
putting
up
a
personal
guarantee,
seemed
unreasonable
to
them
and
then
finally,
the
last
main
issue
that
we
had
talked
about
previously
was
a
request
for
private
security,
and
that
is
not
something
they
were
interested
in
entertaining
at
this
time.
They
feel
that
they're
and
I'm
sure
they're
present,
so
they
can
speak
to
it
more
directly
than
I
can.
AI
But
the
information
that
I
received
from
their
Council
was
that
they
felt
that
they
were
doing
a
good
job
currently
in
monitoring
the
property
and
responding
when
there's
graffiti
and
other
things
on
the
site
and
that,
once
they
were
under
construction,
they
would
have
people
on
the
site
regularly
and
that
would
reduce
the
risk.
AI
So
at
this
time
we
have
made
no
modifications
in
the
agreement
that's
presented
to
you
and
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions.
A
H
So,
just
just
to
clarify
the
inability
to
attain
labor
and
materials
in
your
view,
is,
is
this
strong
enough
language
that
it
would
have
to
be
a
worldwide
inability
to
get
that.
AI
So
yes,
I
mean
we
talked
about
this
last
time.
It's
it's
fairly
standard
language
for
Force
measure
type
provision.
It
does
require
there
to
be
an
inability.
Now
will
we
end
up
litigating
what
it
means
to
be
unable
to
get
something?
There's
always
that
risk.
AI
You
know
they
have
used
the
example
in
their
discussions
with
me
that
at
some
point
during
the
pandemic,
you
know
there
was
not
a
generator
to
be
found
in
the
world.
You
couldn't
buy
one
if
you
wanted
to,
and
that
would
be
they
would
be
unable.
Then,
in
that
setting
to
to
acquire
the
generator.
AI
We
did
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
pre-procurement
provision
that
we
had
discussed,
that
other
developers
have
agreed
to
in
other
settings
and
they
they
were
of
the
position
that
based
upon
the
way,
their
financing
works,
and
there
was
they
had
no
knowledge
currently
of
anything
that
was
unavailable,
that
that
just
was
not
a
workable
solution.
Okay,.
AI
H
And
on
the
security,
is
there
any
options
should
should
there
should?
Should
it
not
be
addressed
that,
or
is
this
sort
that
we
could
go
back
and
saying?
Well,
it's
not
being
addressed
properly.
I,
don't
know
the
legal
language,
basically
they're
saying
they're
they're
addressing
it.
They
don't
need
to
hire
private
security,
but
if
it
turns
out
they're
not
is
there
an
option
to
go
back
and
amend
it
or
is
it
set.
AI
Well,
we
certainly
could
go
back
and
amend
the
agreement.
You
currently
have
maintenance
obligations
that
they're
required
to
comply
with
if
they
don't,
that
would
be
a
default
under
the
agreement.
There's
also
our
municode
Provisions.
You
know
if
they're,
not
maintaining
the
property,
you
could
declare
it
a
nuisance
and
go
through
that
process.
AI
We
go
back
and
amend
the
agreement
to
add
additional
language.
You
could
consider
asking
of
them
this
evening
about
including
a
provision
that
says
if
they're
not
meeting
some
X
standard
and
we
have
to
figure
out
what
that
is
that
at
that
point
they
would
hire
security
or
something
like
that.
If
the
city
gets,
you
know
five
complaints
in
a
month
or
whatever
and
goes
out
and
finds
them
to
be
valid
complaints.
Then
they'll
hire
additional
security,
something
like
that.
AI
They
they
were
not
amenable
to
these
things
when
I
raised
it
with
them,
but
okay,
it's
certainly
something
the
council
could
request.
Thank.
H
J
Thank
you
thanks.
So
much
for
doing
that,
work
appreciate
you
raising
those
with
the
developers
attorney.
So
is
it
still
your
recommendation
that
we
move
forward
with
the
settlement
agreement,
as
it's
proposed
now.
AI
I
believe
the
settlement
agreement
reflects
everything
that
the
council
has
discussed.
Obviously,
there's
always
more,
we
could
do
it's
a
it's
a
negotiation
and
you
know
I
think
we've
gotten
what
we
can
at
this
point
and
then
the
question
is:
is
the
city
prepared
to
move
forward
with
the
project
and
do
the
burdens
of
the
project
outweigh
the
benefits?
And-
and
that's
really,
your
call
but
I
believe
the
settlement
agreement
protects
you
to
the
extent
that
we
can
based
upon
the
negotiation.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
At
this
time,
I'd
like
to
open
the
public
hearing,
the
public
is
invited
to
speak
on
this
public
hearing
for
up
to
two
minutes.
We
do
have
a
number
of
public
speakers,
so
I
do
ask.
If
you
can
line
up,
I
would
appreciate
it.
The
first
speaker
is
Michael
lofino,
followed
by
Patrick,
I'm,
sorry,
I,
don't
know:
Patrick
Jordan,
Patrick,
Jordan.
AJ
AJ
AK
Meeting
everybody
Patrick
Jordan
I'm,
a
business
owner
here
in
town
I'm,
also
a
volunteer
for
dap
Health
since
2007
the
developer
has
been
working
on
this
project
and
has
been
not
only
a
good
neighbor
to
the
surrounding
communities,
but
I
think
worked
very
well
with
the
city
council,
various
City
councils
and
staff
members
to
try
and
move
this
project
forward.
I
believe
the
original
code
could
have
called
for
a
10-story
building,
which
we
know
probably
would
have
never
happened
just
based
on
community
input.
Based
on
what
this
gentleman
just
said.
AK
And
so
what
that
does
to
me,
looking
from
the
outside
and
being
in
the
real
estate
world
is
you've
set
a
precedence
that
there's
an
imbalance
of
how
projects
move
forward
in
the
city
and
it's
a
it
is
a
dangerous
precedence
and
whether
that's
true
or
not,
it
is
a
perception
that
is
out
there
and
a
messaging
that
really
needs
to
be
created,
needs
to
be
fixed,
and
maybe
that's
through
the
correct,
the
correct
economic
development
director
or
whatever.
That
position
may
be.
AK
That
being
said,
I'm,
obviously
in
very
much
in
support
of
the
project,
this
type
of
product
does
not
exist.
It's
a
luxury
product
that
is
very
much
in
demand
when
we
have
the
previous
list
done
before
the
list
filled
up
very
very
quickly,
because
people
want
something
that
has
all
the
bells
and
whistles
they
want
to
be
able
to
have
one
touch,
be
able
to
touch
and
go
so
to
speak,
but
they
want
somebody
else
to
manage
those
bells
and
whistles.
So
with
the
anyway,
the
list
filled
up
fast,
Add
Water.
L
Last
week
after
the
May
11th
delay,
we
met
with
the
developer
and
they
brought
the
changes
to
us
and
they
were
substantial
changes
and
for
the
positive
we
brought
those
changes
back
to
the
unit
owners
and
there
wasn't
anyone
that
was
in
in
disagreement
with
the
changes
so
and
I
want
to
thank
the
city,
council
and
the
developer
for
listening
to
our
concerns
that
we
brought
on
May
11th
and
because
of
those
changes,
we
fully
support
the
project
moving
forward.
Thank
you.
AL
Mayor
Garner,
mayor
Pro,
tem,
council
members,
at
this
point,
I
think
you
know
my
name
for
better
for
worse,
but
for
the
record
my
name
is
Thomas
Boudreau
and
I
am
a
homeowner
at
Center
Court.
Thank
you
for
hitting
the
pause
button
on
May
the
11th.
It
gave
time
to
put
things
in
perspective
and
to
get
a
reworking
of
the
Northeast
section
accomplished
as
Craig
shared
our
homeowners
were
represented
by
him
and
myself
at
a
meeting
last
week
with
Miss
Kibby,
and
the
meeting
was
really
really
productive.
AL
AL
We
want
to
thank
Lori
specifically
for
an
amazingly
quick
work
and
then
meeting
with
us
to
go
ahead
and
share
those
plans,
and
we
thank
all
of
you
for
having
the
foresight
to
just
give
it
a
bit
more
time
to
let
it
work
itself
through
I
believe
it
has
I
know
there
are
other
issues
in
front
of
you
with
regard
to
this
item.
That
aside
I
look
forward
to
your
favorable
vote
on
this
initiative.
Thank
you.
N
Probably
don't
need
this
at
this
point.
How
do
we
turn
this
on?
Is
it
on
anyway?
Thank
you.
Everybody
change
the
tenor
of
the
meeting
and
I
think
that's
fantastic.
It
shows
when
everyone
works
together.
My
name
is
Paul
Hastings
I
live
at
the
Morrison
on
Caballeros
I,
also,
as
my
neighbors
also
are
considered,
to
be
impacted
by
the
development.
So
we
were
here
tonight
to
show
our
support
for
the
project.
Also
I
think.
The
result
right
now
has
shown
that
cooperation
working
together
is
going
to
improve
our
neighborhood.
N
We
have
a
growing
neighborhood
they'll
have
wonderful
developments
that
have
occurred
over
the
last
10
to
15
years,
and
now
this
is
going
to
add
to
it
it's
our
homes.
We
have
friends
that
live
next
door
to
each
other
and
all
these
developments,
and
so
what
I'm
hearing
tonight
is
fantastic.
It's
going
to
affect
the
convention
center.
The
hole
in
the
ground
is
going
to
go
away.
N
The
Vitality
of
our
community
is
going
to
come
back,
we've
been
living
with
it
for
seven
years
and
it
has
been
affecting
our
homes,
our
values
and
so
I
won't
go
into
everything
else.
I
was
going
to
say
it
doesn't
seem
necessary,
but
thank
you
for
to
everybody,
Lori,
the
Center
Court
folks
and
everyone
else
that
lives
in
the
neighborhood,
we're
so
excited
to
get
this
off
the
ground.
We
have
a
financially
viable
project.
Let's
get
it
going
and
show
that
Palm
Springs
can
actually
get
these
kind
of
projects
done.
Thank.
AM
Hello,
my
name
is
Kenton
kneppler
I
am
here
to
talk
on
the
Center,
Court
and
Dream
Hotel
project
I'm,
going
to
just
agreement
with
everyone
else
here
that
we're
really
excited
about
this
project.
Moving
forward,
we've
been
talking
about
taxes
and
budget
all
night
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity
to
just
you
know
again
remind
the
constituency
and
the
city
council,
the
value
of
this
project
in
terms
of
bringing
in
new
tot
tax
revenue,
as
well
as,
of
course
now
property
tax
revenue
for
the
with
the
condos.
AM
AN
Hi
Gary
hultzer
I
live
in
the
Morrison
also
in
Midtown,
and
tenor
of
the
meeting
has
changed
completely
with
the
position
of
Center
Court,
which
we're
pleased
about
I
want
to
stress
a
couple
of
things,
though.
Midtown
is
a
real
Community.
It's
developed
over
the
last
15
years
with
the
building
of
Seoul,
the
building
of
Morrison
and
the
and
the
neighboring
projects,
and
this
is
a
hole
in
the
middle
of
our
community.
That
really
needs
to
be
addressed.
I'd
also
like
to
stress
the
fact
that
spot
zoning
is
inappropriate.
AN
We
have
a
zoning
plan
for
that
site.
The
project
is
within
the
zoning
plan.
It
has
been
within
the
zoning
plan
and
altering
that,
on
a
spot
basis,
I
think
puts
the
city
and
the
council
at
risk
and
I
I
wanted
to
share
that
with
you.
I
fear
that
we're
at
the
point,
if,
if
it's
not
approved
by
the
council,
that
we're
letting
perfect
be
the
enemy
of
good
and
I,
really
urge
you
to
approve
the
project.
AN
AO
Good
evening,
as
you
mentioned,
I'm
Rick
o'flan
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
participate
today.
AO
Wait
a
minute
make
that
tonight
and
I
just
want
to
say
I'm
on
here
on
behalf
of
myself
and
some
neighbors,
and
we
all
support
the
project
and
I
had
some
things
to
say
here
and
we're
going
to
make
some
spot
edits,
which
is
most
of
it.
AO
I
do
want
to
command
the
developer,
for,
for
sticking
with
it
and
and
for
I
I
was
a
construction
professional
for
over
40
years,
and
I
am
amazed
at
the
redesign
the
speed
with
which
in
he
did
the
redesign
and
and
how
well
it
addressed
all
the
problems,
and
it's
just
something
you
don't
see
very
often
and
I
think
it
demonstrates
their
commitment
to
the
project.
Thank
you.
AP
G
AP
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Well,
Laurier
actually
was
supposed
to
call
you
up
first,
but
I
think
this
is
probably
better
for
you.
So
if
you
have
any
comments,
you're,
you
have
five
minutes.
P
Good
evening,
I,
don't
really
have
much
to
say,
as
you
can
see,
we
did
respond.
We
responded
very
quickly.
I
want
to
give
thanks
actually
to
our
architects
who,
Friday
morning
we
got
on
the
phone
with
them
and
on
Monday
morning
we
had
a
new
design
and
the
whole
team
worked
over
the
weekend
to
successfully
answer
everybody's
questions.
I
think,
more
importantly,
I
wanted
to
address
the
things
about
security.
P
When
we
start
this
project,
which
is
due
to
happen
in
by
the
end
of
August,
to
do
civil
work,
the
issue
of
Security
will
go
away.
They'll
be
active
people
on
the
site,
all
the
time
we
will
start
to
have
power.
When
we
have
power
to
the
site,
then
we
can
add
the
cameras
and
do
the
things
that
we've
agreed
to
in
the
in
the
agreement
in
regards
to
security.
So
I
wanted
to
address
that.
P
The
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
address
is
that
we
are
not
changing
our
schedule
based
on
this
design,
so
our
finish
date
is
still
the
same.
However,
we
are
asking
that
our
start
moments
for
the
critical
path
is
30
days
later,
because
we
did
a
site
plan,
but
we
haven't
developed
the
facades.
We
have
a
lot
of
schematic
work
to
be
done
to
get
caught
up
to
where
we
were
before.
So
those
the
only
two
things
that
I
want
to
mention
this
evening
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank.
A
K
I
just
have
one
and
I,
don't
know
who
can
answer
it.
I
asked
in
our
meeting
earlier
this
week
on
page.
Oh,
it's
not
numbered
the
last
page
in
this.
The
staff
report,
where
parking's
not
counted
in
the
square
foot
total
and
I,
was
just
curious
as
to
why
is
it
not
counted
in
the
revised
or
the
proposed
area
in
unit
count?.
AL
S
AL
AH
K
Mean
that's
what
I
was
hoping
and
that's
the
only
question
I
had
and
just
Kudos
and
much
appreciation
to
the
developing
team,
and
certainly
after
hearing
Laura
you're
talking
about
your
architect
team,
you
know
certainly
appreciate
them
and
their
speed
at
which
they
came
back
with
the
plan
that
we
thought
was
going
to
take
months
to
come
back
so
hats
off
I'm
I'm,
certainly
in
a
position
where
I
appreciate
what
I
see
in
front
of
me
today
and
and
I'm
supportive
of
the
project.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
Middleton,.
P
So
so,
when
we
looked
at
the
schedule,
the
thing
we
were
due
to
start
the
end
of
August,
beginning
of
September
civil
work,
because
now
this
the
northern
section
has
underground
parking.
We
have
to
review
our
design
at
the
North
End,
so
there'll
be
some
adjustments
to
the
drawings
that
are
currently
in
for
review
before
we
can
start
that
work.
So
that's
kind
of
the
start
of
everything.
So
we
want
to
push
that
back
30
days.
P
O
I'm
sorry
end
of
2026.
all
right.
Thank
you.
I
want
to
second
to
council
member
de
heart
and
all
in
the
audience.
Thank
you
and
your
team
for
responding
so
quickly
so
effectively,
and
it
gives
all
of
us
renewed
hope
that
this
project
will
in
fact
be
completed.
H
Yes,
so
I
I
don't
have
any
questions,
but
I
just
want
to
say:
I
did
meet
with
the
developer
and
also
saw
this
before,
but
I
think
it
is.
It
is
absolutely
amazing
that
they
turned
it
around
in
four
weeks
and
not
only
did
they
turn
around
the
designs,
but
you
had
a
chance
to
meet
and
it
was
some
council
members,
but
with
all
the
neighbors
and
and
have
it
in
for
this
next
meeting.
You
know
a
month
later,
which
is
pretty
amazing
and
commendable.
H
So
thank
you
for
that.
I
do
think
the
project
is
very
exciting.
I
know
we
I
saw
some
of
the
Interior
renderings
I.
Think
the
fact
that
it's
70
74,
open
space
is
is
really
I
know.
There's
a
lot
of
problems
about
density
people
complain,
you
know
coming
about
height,
but
it's
a
lot
of
open
space.
It's
a
lot
of
projects.
H
I
think
there
will
be
a
lot
of
amenities
for
the
Neighbors
for
the
neighboring
communities
into
the
restaurants
or
the
market
that
I've
seen
in
there,
and
certainly
we
know
our
Convention
Center
needs
needs
some
more
hotel
rooms
and
of
this
caliber
and
it's
within
walking
distance
to
our
downtown.
So
I
think
it's
it's
really.
H
Terrific
and
I
really
do
appreciate
that
this
happened
so
fast,
I'm
glad
you
did
listen
to
the
neighbors
I
do
want
to
Echo
some
of
the
comments
and
public
comment
that
we
do
have
to
be
careful
about
how
we
the
message
we
send
to
developers
and
whether
it's
luxury
buildings
or
affordable
housing,
and
that
you
know
we
have
zoning
codes
for
a
reason,
and
you
know
they
can
be
changed,
but
we
should
not
have
spot
zoning
I
guess,
as
the
referral
was
so
I'm,
very
supportive
of
this
I'm
glad
to
see
it
moving
forward.
J
J
You
know
I
always
find,
even
though
you
know
there
were
complaints
that
you
know
were
bending
to
just
a
few
residents
or
you
know
that
it's
spot
zoning
which
it
is
in
it's
our
job
to
make
sure
it's
compatible
with
the
neighborhood,
and
these
projects
always
get
better
and
we
always
come
up
with
a
better
solution
together.
So
really
appreciate
the
quick
turnaround
and
I'm
proud
to
support
this
project
and
can't
wait
to
see
it
get
done.
A
A
A
AH
Yes,
good
evening,
mayor
mayor,
Pro,
tem
and
members
of
council
I
will
apologize
in
advance
that,
with
our
assistant
city
manager,
Flynn
out
unexpectedly
tonight
we
are
sort
of
doing
our
best
to
walk
you
through
this.
So
I
will
introduce
this
tonight
and
provide
a
brief
introduction
of
this
item
that
is
related
to
sidewalk
vending
ordinance
before
I
hand
it
over
to
a
member
of
our
city
attorney's
office,
who
can
discuss
the
changes
in
much
more
detail
than
me.
AH
As
you
recall,
the
city
council
has
discussed
this
item
a
few
times
most
recently
on
March
9th
of
this
year,
and
tonight
we
have
brought
back
a
revised
ordinance
that
incorporates
the
direction
that
you
provided
previously.
There
do
remain
five
broad
categories
for
discussion
tonight
that
we
are
seeking
your
input
on
in
order
for
us
to
finalize
the
ordinance
depending
on
council's
Direction.
AH
Tonight
we
may
incorporate
those
changes
into
into
the
ordinance
for
second
reading,
but
we'll
see
how
the
discussion
goes
tonight
and
with
that
I
will
happily
hand
it
over
to
Albert
Maldonado,
who
is
joining
us
by
Zoom,
who
will
discuss
the
changes
and
walk
you
through
our
discussion
points.
Thank
you.
Q
Q
So
there
are
five
things
that
I'd
like
to
focus
on,
that
we
are
asking
for
direction
to
try
and
and
complete
the
ordinance
and
just
Big
Picture
This
ordinance
is
presented
to
you
for
approval
tonight.
You
can
approve
this
after
we
get
some
consensus,
or
at
least
majority
Direction
on
these
five
items
or
as
we
go
through
these,
if
you
feel
that
you
have
some
unanswered
questions
or
you
would
like
to
see
the
changes
in
writing
before
you
approve
it,
then
you
can
also
continue
it.
Q
If
you
recall
way
back
when,
when
we
first
presented
the
ordinance,
we
presented
a
72
inch,
six
foot
clearance
restriction
to
provide
for
Ada
access
and
at
the
March
9th
meeting
there
was
some
discussion
about
reducing
that
to
48
inches
to
four
feet.
48
inches
is
the
absolute
minimum
that
the
Ada
requires,
and
so
we
are
seeking
your
your
input
on
whether
you
would
like
it
to
be
48
or
up
to
72.
Q
We
just
need
a
number,
and
so
that's
that's
for
your
discussion
and
I'm
happy
to
go
through
all
five
or
we
could
take
them
one
at
a
time.
What
would
be
the
preference.
Q
Okay,
so
the
second
one
is
a
Prohibition
in
the
downtown
area,
and
this
is
due
to
concerns
about
pedestrian
safety.
Q
It's
been
requested
that
there
be
a
restriction
that
from
4
pm
to
11
pm
every
day
that
sidewalk
vendors
be
prohibited
to
vend
on
certain
sections
of
these
specific
streets.
First
on
Palm
Canyon
Drive
between
baristo
road
on
the
south
and
Alejo
road
on
the
North
and
second
on
Arenas
Road
between
Indian
Cannon
Drive
on
the
west
and
Gaia
and
Celia
on
the
east
of
vendors.
Could
then,
before
4
pm
and
after
11
pm,
the
Restriction
would
just
be
between
4
and
11
pm
and
also
once
I'm
going
once
I'm
done
going
through.
Q
These
five
I
am
going
to
ask
the
chief
of
police
and
any
other
knowledgeable
staff
member
to
provide
all
of
you.
Some
data
about
this
specific
restriction
to
to
understand
what
the
concern
about
pedestrian
safety
is
to
justify
this
restriction.
Q
The
third
item
is
hours
of
operation
generally
and
based
on
discussion.
At
your
last
meeting,
we
have
come
back
with
some
language
to
limit
hours
of
operation
for
sidewalk
vendors
in
residential
Zone
districts
to
between
30
minutes,
before
sunrise
to
30
minutes
after
Sunset,
and
that's
again
in
residential
Zone
districts
for
commercial
districts.
We
have
proposed
30
minutes
before
Sunrise
until
3
A.M
in
commercial
districts.
Q
Q
Last
time
we
had
proposed
a
500
foot
separation
distance
based
on
some
other
standards
in
the
zoning
code,
but
based
on
discussion
at
the
last
meeting
and
some
other
input
from
Community
stakeholders,
we
have
proposed
that
distance
requirement
be
100
feet
from
a
a
legal
risk
perspective.
I
think
I
mentioned
to
you
at
the
last
meeting,
but
the
city
of
Los
Angeles
has
been
specifically
sued
over
a
500
foot
distance
restriction.
Just
like
this
one.
They
have
a
distance
restriction
around
the
Walk
of
Fame,
the
Staples.
Q
Well,
it
used
to
be
Staples,
Center
crypto.com
it'll
always
be
Staples
for
me
as
a
die-hard
Laker
fan,
but
crypto.com
Arena
and
some
other
of
their
major
kind
of
touristy
event
spots
and
they've
been
sued
over
that
to
my
knowledge,
they're,
the
only
jurisdiction
that
has
been
sued
that
has
a
500
foot
separation,
distance
separation.
I
can
tell
you
that
the
cities
of
San
Diego,
and
this
and
Ontario
also
have
500
foot
distance
separation
requirements
and
they
have
not
been
sued.
Q
Alternatively,
the
city
of
Riverside
and
the
County
of
Riverside
both
have
a
200
foot,
distance
restriction
for
special
events,
and
so
we
first
came
at
500
now
we're
proposing
100,
but
you
can
kind
of
go
any
anywhere
in
between
there.
I
think
from
a
risk
perspective,
500
foot
would
probably
be
the
most
risky.
It's
not
to
say
that
that
we
couldn't
defend
that
make
a
strong
defense,
but
that's
the
highest
risk,
because
we
know
someone's
been
sued
over
that
as
you
get
closer
to
100
feet,
that
risk
will
drop
and
drop.
Q
So
that's
one
thing
to
discuss,
and
the
fifth
and
last
item
is
reduce
fines
for
violations.
There
was
some
discussion
at
the
last
council
meeting,
whether
to
lower
the
administrative
fine
amounts.
What
we
have
proposed
to
you-
and
we
still
have
in
the
draft
ordinance,
is
the
maximum
allowable
fines
under
state
law
and
basically
it's
if
someone
has
gotten
a
permit,
it's
a
hundred
dollars.
Q
Actually,
let
me
go
there
so
I'm
not
telling
you
the
wrong
thing.
It
is
for
a
first
violation
if
they've
actually
gotten
the
permit
from
the
city,
then
for
a
first
violation,
I
think
it's
a
hundred
dollars,
it's
a
hundred
dollars
for
first
violation,
200
for
a
second
and
500
for
the
third
and
each
additional
violation.
Q
If
you
wanted
to
those
are
all
the
the
five
items
that
we
need,
your
input
on
one
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
mention
is
we
got
some
input
from
a
member
of
the
community
that
wanted
some
additional
clarification
on
language
that
we
have
in
the
draft
ordinance
that's
in
the
agenda
packet,
and
that
is
about
that
vendors,
can't
block
entrances
to
private
buildings,
private
driveways
parking
spaces
or
building
windows
and
I
had
some
language
about
that.
Q
A
vendor
couldn't
set
up
within
the
immediate,
immediate
vicinity
of
those
areas,
but
based
on
that
input
from
the
member
of
the
public
I
would
propose
and
for
the
record
in
specifically
sections
5.8
9.050,
B8,
5.8,
9.060,
B8
and
5.8907085
all
our
identical
language
that,
instead
of
within
the
immediate
percentage,
we
just
say
within
10
feet,
we
have
some
similar
language
having
a
10
foot
restriction
on
that,
you
can't
set
up
within
10
feet
of
a
handicap
parking
space
or
access
ramp
or
within
10
feet
of
a
fire
station.
Driveway.
Q
So
I
think
we
could
just
use
the
same
standard
and
say
10
feet.
They
can't
be
within
10
feet
of
private
building.
Private
entrances
to
private
buildings,
private
driveways
parking
spaces
are
building
windows
and
mayor.
It's
up
to
you.
If
you,
you
would
like
to
entertain
some
data
points
now
from
the
chief
of
police
and
other
knowledgeable
staff
about
justifying
that
hours
restriction
in
the
downtown
area
or
if
you
would
like
to
have
questions
and
discussion
among
yourselves.
First.
A
AQ
Good
evening,
mayor
and
council
members,
as
we
looked
at
the
data
concerning
the
downtown
area
between
Alejo
and
baristo,
there
were
approximately
16
000
calls
for
service
between
2018
and
2023.
So
far
of
those
approximately
5
300
were
public
nuisances
and
1500
were
crimes
that
were
investigated.
Now,
the
importance
of
the
public
nuisance
is
the
more
crowded.
The
sidewalks
become
the
more
room
there
is
for
disturbances,
especially
at
a
during
a
nighttime
crowd
where
alcohol
is
involved.
AQ
So
that
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
are
concerned
about
the
high
density
of
food
vendors
in
a
mixed
in
and
amongst
a
crowd
of
people
coming
and
going
from
restaurants
and
bars
in
the
downtown
area.
Take
a
look
at
Arenas
and
ancelia
area.
We
have
2
000,
almost
2100
calls
for
service
of
those
517
or
public
nuisances,
and
almost
300
are
crimes.
So
again,
that's
pretty
condensed
area
to
have
that
kind
of
police
activity
in
a
in
a
per
in
a
obviously
a
substantial
period
of
time.
A
J
Thank
you
appreciate
that
thank
you
to
staff
for
analyzing
that
data
and
for
bringing
forward
the
staff
report,
especially
with
the
deal
points
that
we
need
to
discuss
or
discussion
points.
That's
helpful.
J
I
did
have
some
question
about
a
legal
liability.
So
could
you
explain
so
the
staff
report
talks
about
how
cities
are
prohibited
from
imposing
sidewalk
vending
regulations
within
specific
parts
of
areas
of
the
city,
and
so
can
you
just
explain
specifically
because
I'm
worried
about
liability
and
risk?
There's
already
been
a
number
of
lawsuits
on
this
issue.
It's
an
issue
of
Statewide
concern
and
we're
just
seeing
more
and
more
advocacy
around
here.
We
obviously
have
advocates
for
Street
vendors
here,
and
we
also
have
public
counsel,
which
is
a
Statewide
Law.
J
Q
So
so
let
me
start
with
state
law.
State
law
says
that
you
cannot
restrict
vendors
to
a
certain
area
of
the
city
unless
there
are
objective
Health,
safes,
health
safety
reasons
to
do
so,
and
so
that
can't
be
speculative
there
has
to
be
data.
Q
That's
why
we
asked
the
chief
of
police
to
provide
us
some
data
to
justify
that
during
specified
times
where
there's
High
foot
traffic
on
Those
portions
of
those
streets
and
during
specifically
those
times
that
introducing
a
sidewalk
vendor
on
that
street
during
that
time
during
the
high
foot
traffic
that
it
could
create
one
or
two
problems,
one
is
that
it
would
create
accessibility
issues
because
the
sidewalk
would
become
even
more
cramped.
Q
The
second
is,
it
might
become
so
cramped
that
it
causes
people
to
walk
in
the
street
and
that
could
be
a
public
safety
risky
to
both
drivers
on
the
street
and
to
pedestrians,
who
have
to
go
into
the
street
to
get
around
people
or
the
vendor,
and
so
the
the
the
the
job
of
the
council
is
to
make
the
call
whether
you
find
the
data
compelling
enough
that
it
supports
making
that
restriction
to
address
that
issue.
If
you
don't
find
the
data
compelling
enough,
then
I
don't
recommend
that
you
enact
that
restriction.
J
Thank
you
I
appreciate
that,
and
so
the
state
law
also
prohibits
the
city
from
taking
making
any
policy
that
would
look
like
it's
limiting
competition.
So
how
much
does
the
risk
frankly,
to
be
honest,
common
sense,
like
the
hours
presented,
look
like
to
me.
Restaurant
hours
of
competition,
I
heard
the
data
from
the
police
chief
and
the
department
respectfully
to
the
chief
in
the
department
who
both
are
excellent
and
do
excellent
work
to
me.
J
The
data
presented
about
public
nuisance
isn't
reasonably
related
legally
to
the
policy
that
we're
trying
to
enact
or
the
problem
to
solve,
not
hearing
any
evidence
that
street
vending
sidewalk
issues.
Accessibility
issues
are
related
to
the
data
cited
public
nuisance,
which
I'm
familiar
with
that
data
and
I
know
what
some
of
those
public
nuisance
cases
are
and
they're
it's
different.
So
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
Street
vending
right
now,
so
our
data
isn't
especially
downtown,
so
our
data
isn't
really
relevant
there.
J
You
know
unless
we're
talking
about
like
pedestrian
safety
or
or
other
issues,
but
we
have
a
large
Street
downtown.
We
have
events
downtown.
We
you
know,
allow
other
types
of
things
on
Palm
Canyon
in
the
area
is
cited
so
to
me.
I'm
worried
that
both
the
area
listed
looks
like
limiting
restaurant
competition
and
I'm
worried
about
the
hours
listed,
looks
like
limiting
restaurant
hours
of
of
competition.
So
can
you
justify
that
from
the
city
perspective
I
mean?
How
would
we
defend
a
lawsuit
on
those
grounds?
Well,.
Q
We
would
argue
if
you
adopted
such
a
restriction
is
that
the
whole
focus
of
the
Restriction
is
around
pedestrian
safety.
It
doesn't
matter,
you
know
what
types
of
businesses
are
on
that
street.
We
just
know
that
on
certain
times
in
certain
days,
there
is
high
foot
traffic
on
those
streets
and
our
goal
for
the
Restriction
is
pedestrian
safety.
It's
not
about
protecting
restaurants
or
other
commercial
businesses.
That's
what
we
would
argue.
Q
Well,
we
would
have
to
make
that
link
and
we
might
need
if
you
find
the
data
lacking.
Maybe
there
is
other
data
out
there
that
we
haven't
considered
that's
one
of
unfortunately,
one
of
the
disadvantages
tonight
of
not
having
Flynn
with
us,
because
Flynn
might
be
able
to
provide
some
additional
data
that
that
he
knows
of
that.
Maybe
the
chief
police
doesn't
and
I
do
not.
J
Thank
you,
yes,
Flynn
has
every
answer
known
to
man
and
always
has
the
solution
so
respect
to
everyone
here.
Flynn
would
have
had
it,
but
I
am
really
concerned
whenever
we
have
a
community
partner
or
stakeholder
like
public
counsel,
who
is
actively
monitoring
and
bringing
litigation
around
this
issue,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
it
right.
J
My
legal
training
and
Analysis
about
the
state
law
and
then
what's
been
presented
feels
is
my
analysis,
is
that's,
probably
not
sufficient
and
that
we
literally
would
need
to
justify
it,
especially
because
there
is
that
a
presumption
in
state
law
to
not
limit
competition,
and
that's
what
it
looks
like
on
its
face.
J
J
So
it
also
says
state
law
prohibits
cities
from
restricting
sidewalk
funding
in
public
parks
unless
there's
an
inclusive
exclusive
concession
agreement
for
the
park,
and
so
we're
limiting
in
parks
under
two
acres,
which
includes
the
downtown
park,
which
personally
I
think
is
a
really
good
match
for
sidewalk
vending
and
and
Street
vending
and
vendors,
because
it
needs
a
little
extra
love
in
that
Park
to
you
know
bring
people
in
this
is
you
know,
Street
vendors
can
be
Economic
Development
and
can
be
business.
J
You
know,
businesses
that
bring
books
into
the
city
that
support
other
businesses.
So
can
you
justify
the
limitations
in
the
Parks.
Q
Yes
from
what
I
recall,
in
my
conversations
with
Flynn,
the
specific
parks
that
you
mentioned,
that
are
two
acres
or
less
in
size,
I
believe
what
we
relied
on
is
state
law
allows
restrictions
on
Vending
in
Parks
when
there
will
be
an
undue
concentration
of
commercial
activity.
It
has
a
negative
impact
on
the
Public's
use
and
enjoyment
of
the
park,
and
we
felt
that
for
the
parks
that
are
two
acres
or
less
in
size
that
it
it
would
cause
that
congestion
and
prevent
people
from
I.
Q
Q
The
idea
was
that
that
it
would
just
cause
too
much
congestion
for
people
to
comfortably
enjoy
those
Parks.
Now
like
I
like
most
of
these
regulations,
these
are
what
you
are
allowed
to
do.
You
don't
have
to
do
this.
You
can
take
away
that
restriction.
That's
just
something.
That's
in
draft
form
right
now.
J
Sure
so,
legally
were
prohibited
from
limiting
this
activity
in
Parks,
unless
it
leads
to
over
concentration
is
the
way
that
you
just
described.
The
law
in
essence
so
mean
again,
factually
that's
not
lining
up
for
me,
based
on
my
knowledge
and
I'm.
So
sorry,
I
appreciate
you
subbing
in
and
I
know
you're
I'm,
not
based
in
Palm,
Springs
and
so
appreciate.
J
I
don't
mean
to
grow
you
here,
but
just
knowing
that
so
many
of
our
Parks
don't
have
on
over
concentration
and
actually
could
benefit
from
some
of
this
activity
and
aren't
going
to
lead
to
those
public.
You
know
we
don't
have
data
supporting
that.
It's
going
to
lead
to
those
issues
that
state
law
is
really
targeted
because,
again,
state
law
is
attempting
to
limit
our
ability
to
restrict
this
activity
so
again
with
a
public
Law
Firm.
Looking
down,
you
know
looking
down
at
us
right
now
watching
this
meeting
based
on
the
evidence.
J
If
we
have
sufficient
evidence
to
support
those
restrictions
so
and
again,
I
think
public
policy
wise,
the
city
council
might
want
to
say
there
are
areas
of
parks
or
that
these
two
acre
parks
are
not
that
different
or
we
really
don't
have
the
concentrated
activity
right
now.
That
would
lead
to
that
over
concentration
in
those
smaller
Parks.
J
You
know,
obviously,
in
the
downtown
park
we
host
Pride
we've
hosted
a
number
of
community
festivals
that
have
had
dozens
of
tents
and
vendors
and
booths.
I
mean
we're
talking
like
20
to
30.
So
it's
surprising
to
hear
you
know
a
handful
of
vendors
or
any
vendor
at
all
would
cause
some
problems
in
those
parts.
So,
okay,
those
are
I,
have
maybe
some
other
minor
questions,
but
those
are
my
major
concerns.
I
wanted
to
raise
before
you
know,
I
want
to
hear
from
my
colleagues
before
going
into
anything
else.
Q
And
I
I
neglected
to
mention
that
I
think,
because
this
came
up
in
our
last
meeting,
we
did
include
a
carve
out
in
the
ordinance
so
the
way
that
it
reads
for
the
parks
is,
it
says,
inside
what
venation
will
be
permitted
with
any
public
park.
It
is
less
than
two
acres
in
area
unless
otherwise
permitted
by
the
city
council.
So
there's
a
carve
out
there
so
that
for
any
park
you
could
exempt
a
vendor
exempt
a
park
from
this
restriction.
J
I
agree
and
I
think
my
comment
just
for
my
colleagues
is
that
and
for
staff
is
I.
Don't
think
the
current
justification
aligns
with
state
law
and
I
appreciate
that
we,
yes,
we
are
able
to
allow
it,
but
state
law
is
actually
airing
on
the
side
of
allowing
it
and
limiting
our
ability
to
prohibit
and
so
I'm
concerned
about
the
city
prohibiting
but
I
appreciate.
Yes,
we
can,
because
we
could
not
pass
an
ordinance
on
this
issue.
We
could
allow
you
know.
J
Obviously
we
want
to,
and
we
don't
have
some
regulation,
but
you
know
worth
of
the
state
is
setting
the
you
know
the
the
limits
here,
for
what
we're
able
to
do
and
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
operating
legally.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
I'm
gonna
actually
jump
in
here
a
little
bit
because
some
of
my
comments
are
related
to
what
councilmember
holstich
was
just
saying,
and
then
council
member
to
heart,
I'll,
go
right
to
you.
I'm
also
concerned
about
the
liability
and
especially
we're
looking
at
the
nuisance
related
concerns.
A
What
are
the
nuisance
calls
related
to
Street
vendors
specifically,
are
they
causing
the
problem,
or
is
it
just
nuisances
generally
because
nuisance
is
generally
in
our
downtown
and
are
on
an
Arenas
is
different
and
those
are
obviously
not
going
to
go
away
whether
or
not
they're
Street
vendors
so
again
like
it
just
it
does
seem
like
it's
related
more
to
business
and
I.
Don't
want
us
to
be
in
dealing
with
lawsuits
here.
A
The
other
thing
about
all
of
this
with
the
parks
is
our
downtown
park
is
less
than
two
acres,
but
that's
a
really
really
great
spot
to
allow
Street
vendors,
for
instance,
movies
in
the
park.
All
of
our
local
businesses
are
closed
at
the
time
that
there's
movies
in
the
park
unless
you
want
to
sit
down
inside
of
a
restaurant.
A
But
if
you
want
to
be
at
the
park
watching
the
movie,
there's
not
take
out
options
available
so
having
a
street
vendor
there
to
allow
for
people
to
grab
something
would
really
benefit
those
events
or
even
the
concerts
or
just
being
able
to
have
something
grab
and
go
because
people
want
to
stay
right
where
they're
at
and
watch
the
entertainment.
They
don't
want
to
leave
and
have
to
come
back.
A
If
they
can
easily
get
food,
I
know
myself
and
council
member
Holsted
certainly
have
been
spending
a
lot
more
time
in
our
parks
in
the
last
couple
of
years,
and
there's
been
many
many
times
when
I
left,
because
there
were
no
food
options
and
thought
how
wonderful
would
it
be
if
there
was
a
street
vendor
nearby
that
I
could
get
something
for
me
and
for
my
child,
so
I
don't
think
that
it's
necessary
for
us
to
prohibit
the
street
vendors
in
any
parks,
and
we
only
have
two
parks
that
are
less
than
two
acres,
which
is
a
downtown
park
and
the
the
pocket
park
over
off
of
gianatri
and
again
that
Gene
Autry
Park
is
underutilized.
A
So
if
there
was
somebody
selling
something
there,
there's
a
whole
neighborhood
right
there
that
could
walk
over
and
use
that
Park
and
maybe
play
some
bocce
ball
while
they
had
a
taco
or
something
so
I.
Think
there's
there's
really
good
opportunities
here
to
encourage
the
use
of
our
parks
for
these
types
of
vending,
because
that's
something
that
other
cities
have
done
too
is
created
special
zones
for
vendors
to
encourage
them
to
be
there.
A
Instead
of
necessarily
being
right,
where
there's
a
bunch
of
businesses
already
so
I
think
parks
are,
are
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
create
those
those
special
zones,
all
right
and
I
will
move
on
from
that
I
just
wanted
to
chime
in
since
councilmember
whole
situated
the
same
items.
I
wanted
to
council
member
to
Heart.
K
Yeah,
thank
you
and
thanks
Albert
for
the
the
input
tonight.
You
know
a
couple
of
things.
K
K
So
that's
not
in
question
what
I
heard
from
the
chief
and
talking
about
the
downtown
nuisance
calls
it
has
to
do
with
the
number
of
people
crowds,
large
numbers
of
people
downtown
during
our
peak
times,
you
know,
and
and
admittedly
that
most
often
even
during
season
is
Friday,
Saturday
and
Sunday,
and
that
alcohol
is
involved
and
that
there
is
a
high
concentration
of
businesses,
so
I
think
that's
the
concern
that
I'm
hearing
is
is
being
raised
on.
K
K
Okay,
your
sign
has
to
leave
six
feet
in
diameter,
but
if
we
have
a
street
vendor
our
sidewalk
vendor,
we
only
need
48
inches
of
sidewalk
space
and
and
and
that
is
very
challenging
downtown
with
the
the
palm
trees,
the
tree
Wells
and
as
I
think
our
Main
Street
president
pointed
out
to
us
the
curb
line
with
people
getting
out
of
the
cars,
so
I'm
I'm
concerned
that
the
48
inches
isn't
the
right
number
and
a
specifically
if
we're
talking
about
downtown
and
arenas.
K
K
We
heard
in
public
testimony
tonight
people
standing
in
line
to
be
served
lines
for
the
customers
to
get
merchandise
and
then
also
lines
for
the
customers
that
are
going
to
businesses
already
and
on
Arenas,
in
particular
those
Stuart
those
sidewalks
get
extremely
crowded
with
people
waiting
to
get
into
the
businesses
and
there
there
is
not
enough
room
for
multiple
people
standing
on
a
sidewalk,
a
street
of
cart
vending
and
then
having
48
inches
of
space.
There's
only
88
inches
of
sidewalk
in
arenas.
K
Eight
foot
one
inch
in
some
places,
so
the
the
space
is
just
too
limiting
and
that's
I
think
there.
That's
the
reasoning
why
we
would
have
this
this
guideline
that
we
wouldn't
allow
vending
during
these
Peak
crowd
periods
of
time
for
public
safety
reasons,
for
crowd,
control
reasons
and
and
I
think
it
was
a
misstatement
that
the
there's
not
Ada
accessible
businesses
on
Arenas
there.
They
do
have
access
to
businesses,
if
not
from
the
front,
but
from
the
back.
So
those
businesses
wouldn't
be
able
to
function
if
they
didn't
have
Ada
access.
K
So
when
we
look
at
the
next
item,
the
hours
of
operation,
I'm,
I'm,
perfectly
fine
and
I-
think
I
was
I,
supported
it
at
our
last
meeting,
30
minutes
before
sunrise
and-
and
you
know
it's
at
Sunset-
that
that
seems
reasonable
and
logical
and
also
the
time
that
it
does
mention
in
the
ordinance
on
closing
in
a
park
an
hour
early
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
clarify.
K
If
staff
thinks
we
need
to
clarify
that
when
we
say
the
vendor
closes
down
an
hour
prior
to
the
park,
close,
that's
still
giving
the
vendor
35
30
minutes,
45
minutes
an
hour
to
pack
up
get
their
supplies
into
the
vehicle
and
go
on.
They
don't
have
to
be
out
of
the
park
at
that
60
Minute
prior
to
close
timeline.
So
I
think
that
that
needs
to
be
clarified.
So
it
is
clear
that
they
can
continue,
selling
and
start
the
process
of
loading
out
an
hour
before
the
park
closes.
K
The
reduced
fines
you
know
I
was
I
was
all
in
favor
of
reducing
fines
for
the
structure
and
we,
as
we
talked
at
our
our
last
meeting
when
we
brought
this
up
and
and
I
I'll,
propose
that
you
know
four
businesses
that
have
a
business
license
that
that
fine
first
offense
is
fifty
dollars.
Second
Ascent
offense
is
a
hundred
and
then
the
third
offense
is
250.
K
I.
Don't
I
would
not
like
to
see
any
change
from
the
state
guidelines
for
somebody
who
doesn't
have
a
license
if
they're
operating
without
the
license
and
they're
operating
illegally,
I
I
think
they
should
be
held
to
the
the
the
fee
structure
that
is
set
up
currently
at
250,
first
500
second
and
a
thousand
for
a
third.
But
but
people
who
are
working
with
the
city
and
obtaining
the
license
and
doing
all
the
right
thing.
K
I
I
think
we
should
lower
lower
the
levels
to
50
for
the
first
under
for
a
second
and
250
for
the
Third,
that
was
the
Five
Points.
Oh
no
I
missed
the
the
feet.
K
The
fourth
bullet
point,
so
you
know
this
one
is:
is
I
I
had
the
conversation
at
our
last
meeting
that
it
is
a
huge
challenge
when
it
comes
to
and
I'm
not
talking
about,
swap,
meets
or
or
Farmer
Market
I'm
talking
about
when
there's
a
special
event,
and
you
know
a
hundred
feet
to
get
just
picture,
what
a
hundred
feet
is
if
you're
on
Palm,
Canyon
and
Arenas
a
hundred
feet
is
not
even
past
the
back
of
zinn's
restaurant
Zen
Bistro,
so
that
is
telling
during
Village
Fest
in
particular,
The
Village
Fest
for
footprint
basically
goes
to
the
end
of
Zen
Bistro
toward
not
even
reaching
Pinocchio
on
Tahquitz,
not
even
getting
to
the
El
Patio
Restaurant
on
Andreas.
K
A
hundred
feet
is
going
to
cause
significant
crowd
issues
with
an
event,
that's
happening
that
could
be
drawing
thousands
of
people
into
these
small
narrow
streets
and
then
we're
going
to
say
we're
not
only
going
to
have
the
event
on
Palm
Canyon
we're
going
to
allow
vendors
to
set
up
on
these
narrow
side
streets
which
are
going
to
cause
another
public
safety
issue
and
challenge
for
people
getting
access
to
these
events,
so
I
think
Granite
LA's
being
sued
at
500,
San
Diego
has
a
500,
Ontario's,
500
and
and
Albert
told
us
that
County
of
Riverside
and
city
of
Riverside
have
200
feet.
K
You
know
if,
if
there's
fear
of
risk
fear
of
being
sued,
which
I
don't
think
we
should
be
setting
policy
because
we
fear
we're
going
to
be
sued.
We
fear
that
that
people
are
watching
us
and
we're
going
to
get
sued.
I,
don't
think.
That's
a
reason
for
us
to
make
policy
for
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
So.
K
100
is
not
the
right
distance,
but
is
400.
You
know,
I
I
think
we
have
to
be
more
than
a
hundred
another
example
when
the
Black
History
Affair
was
that
Francis
Stevens
part
a
hundred
feet
meant
would
mean
that
on
the
east
side
of
Indian
Canyon
that
whole
street
would
be
lined
up
with
vendors
could
be
potentially
now
that
would
severely
impact
the
the
what's
going
on
in
the
in
Francis
Stevens
park
with
our
black
history
events,
so
I
I
think
it
is
a
Challenge
100
feet
is
not
enough.
K
That
could
would
be
less
of
a
risk
for
fear
of
a
suit
from
as
Los
Angeles
is
in
okay,
now
I
think
I
had
all
the
the
key
points
shout
out
to
staff.
I
think
this
is
what
we
sent
back
to
staff.
You
had
a
hundred
different
points,
a
hundred
different
items
of
Correction,
I
think,
and
you
came
back
and
you
put
put
the
draft
ordinance
together
and
I
only
saw
one
item
that
was
discussed
by
all
of
our
council
members
that
wasn't
included
in.
K
That
was
what
happens
to
abandoned
equipment
and
and
I.
Don't
remember
if
we
didn't
address
abandoned
equipment
because
that
was
covered
in
an
another
ordinance,
I
I,
don't
think
it
was
I.
Think
there
was.
We
had
discussed
language
that
something
becomes
abandoned
at
a
particular
point
in
time
when
it's
unstaffed
unmanned,
so
I
think
that
piece.
That
piece
was
not
picked
up
from
our
prior
conversation.
K
I
thought
I
brought
I
asked
that
we
changed
the
he
she
pronouns
to
they.
Theirs
and
and
I
may
not
have
asked
it
for
this
particular
ordinance,
but
I
know
I
suggested
that
we
get
into
that
habit
in
on
another
item
that
came
before
us,
but
referring
to
he
or
she
all
the
time
is,
is
not
necessarily
the
appropriate
thing,
so
we
could
use
they
them
they,
their
singulars
throughout.
K
K
K
Now
that
language
is
in
the
food
truck,
ordinance
or
draft,
but
it
didn't
get
copied
over
to
be
used
here
and
and
I
think
that
applies
to
all
the
sections
where,
where
we
talk
about
the
vendor
must
maintain
the
vending
area
in
a
clean,
orderly
and
sanitary
condition.
They
also
need
to
leave
it
in
a
clean
condition.
K
It's
not
clear
on
page
16
item
four,
a
sidewalk
food
vendor
cart
shall
possess
a
current
decal
sticker.
Now
we
just
we
Define
in
the
item
three
above
that
a
sidewalk
vendor
selling
food
is
going
to
display
a
valid
Health
permit,
but
then
item
four
we're
talking
about
possessing
a
decal
sticker.
But
we
don't
talk
about
where's
that
sticker
coming
from
who's
issuing
the
sticker.
K
So
the
decal
comes
from
the
county.
Yes,
okay,
so
we
just
need
to
have
that
clarified
that
we
need
to
put
Department
of
Health
or
environmental
Department
whatsoever.
Their
name
is
right.
Okay,
that's
all
good.
K
Okay
item
19
on
page
18.,
so
we
we
give
good
direction,
and
so
everybody
understands
and
and
a
vendor
will
know
that
sidewalk
vending
shall
not
discharge
any
liquid
water,
Grace
blah
blah
blah
into
the
sewer
facilities.
All
discharge
shall
be
contained
and
properly
disposed
of
by
the
sidewalk
vendor.
K
Well,
what
happens
if
they
leave
the
grease
or
the
grease
is
poured
on
the
dirt
or,
as
we
already
saw
on
Arenas,
the
grease
was
left
on
the
sidewalk
and
what
happened
is
the
City
had
the
expense
to
send
a
crew
out
and
and
power
wash
that
sidewalk?
That
burden
cannot
be
on
the
city
to
do
every
time
we've
got
a
vendor
that
is
working
on
the
street
or
the
sidewalks.
So
what
we're
saying
they
can't
do
this,
but
what,
if
they
do,
is
missing
and
I
don't
think.
That's
ever
been
included
somewhere.
K
K
Item
19
or
page
19
item
four.
We
talked
about
the
the
timing
clarifying
that
the
time
that
the
operations
close
one
hour
prior
to
close,
but
that
does
not
mean
the
vendor
has
to
vacate
that
the
vendor
still
has
time
to
pack
up
before
the
park
closes,
leaving
the
Ender
leaving
the
vendor
vending
area
clean
and
orderly
is
item
number
five.
K
And
then
we
removed
on
page
21
and
if
I
could
just
get
clarification,
we
removed
item
six
that
says
the
sidewalk
vendor
does
not
conduct
sales
from
a
public.
Street
is
why
why
was
that
taken
out.
Q
The
reason
that
was
taken
out
is
because
the
public
street
is
not
considered
the
right
of
way
and
state
law
says
that
you
can't
criminalize
silent
pending
conduct
in
the
right
of
way
and
by
including
the
public
Street
language
here,
there's
case
law,
saying
that
when
you
have
two
two
similar
laws
and
they
cover
the
the
same
topic,
the
more
specific
One
controls.
Q
And
so
if
we
included
the
regulation
that
they
can't
vent
in
the
public
street,
we
will
be
limited
by
the
penalties
within
this
ordinance,
which
are
administrative
citations.
We
don't
want
to
include
it
so
that
you
have
the
city:
has
criminal
enforcement
teeth
to
enforce
against
a
vendor
who's
operating
actually
in
the
street,
because
that
the
state
law
does
not
address
that
good.
K
Well,
I'm
glad
that
was
caught
that
that's
excellent.
Okay,.
K
So
the
space
from
a
licensed
permitted
issued
event
I'm,
suggesting
a
400
foot
distance,
adding
language
on
what
what
happens
when
is
equipment
defined
as
abandoned
and
and
can
be
dealt
with
at
that
point
in
time,
find
schedule
going
down
to
50,
100
and
250,
not
changing
the
schedule
from
what
the
state
allows
for
people
who
operate
without
a
license,
and
you
know
what
what
I
did
like
is
I.
K
Think
I
think
the
City
attorney
Ballinger
had
put
in
the
the
City
attorney
had
given
us
the
opportunity
to
create
vending
zones,
and
that's
what
I
really
liked
about
this
language
on
page
six
is
that
city
council
has
the
opportunity
to
set
up
vending
zones
and
to
me
if,
if
we
have
the
opportunity
to
define
the
downtown
park
as
a
vending
Zone,
that
gives
us
the
ability
to
to
Really
build
up
that
space
with
seating
with
with
with
permanent
areas
that
that
the
vendors
can
go
on
a
regular
basis
and
it
can
become
a
destination
activity
like
we
see
in
other
cities
across
the
country,
so
I
liked.
K
K
So
I
like
the
option
of
being
able
to
have
the
vending
Zone,
give
us
the
opportunity
to
really
Define
how
a
a
food
Park
can
look,
and
you
know
how
relaxed
those
rules
can
be,
which
could
be
very
different
from
what
we're
saying
this
ordinance
is
so
to
me
that
was
important
to
carve
out
and
have
separate,
so
we
can
create
a
zone
that
that
is
very
Dynamic
and
and
and
maybe
more
permanent
and
becomes
a
destination
destination
activity
for
people
who
want
to
enjoy
a
lot
of
comments
and
that's
what
I
got
for
now.
H
I'll
go
so
on
the
sidewalk
with
is:
is
there
any
option
for
saying
that
it's
48
inches
of
unobstructed
clearance
I
mean
I,
so
their
customers
have
to
be
able
to
go
to
the
side
and
if
they
can't
be,
if
there's
a
line
to
a
business,
is
that
legally
possible.
H
The
question
we're
saying
it's:
48
inches
of
clearance,
but
we've
heard
things
like
the
customers
for
the
booth
for
the
mate.
There
may
be
a
crowd
in
front
of
them
or
there
may
be
a
line
for
another
business.
That
is
that
they're
setting
up
in
front
of
is
there
any
way
to
say
that
it
has
to
be
48
inches
of
unobstructed
sidewalk?
H
Because
it
doesn't,
it
seems
to
me
that
if
you
know
you
don't
necessarily
need
six
feet,
if
there's
not
a
lot
of
people
around,
but
if
there's
a
line
for
a
business
and
you're
setting
up
and
there's
only
that
that
line
takes
up
part
of
the
four
feet
that
would
be
kind
of
crowded
to
get
through
and
certainly
not
room
for
Ada
access,
so
that
that
would
be
one
option.
I
would
see
if
there's
a
legal
way
to
do
that.
Q
H
H
AQ
The
data
I
gave
you
over
the
last
five
year
period
has
very
as
the
council
member
hostage
and
mayor
Garner
stated.
Very
few
of
these
are
directly
related
to
vending,
because
it's
a
relatively
recent
phenomenon.
We
recognize
the
inadequacy
of
the
data,
because
this
is
again
fairly
new
phenomena.
Okay,.
H
And
and
I
guess
what
I'm
really
thinking
is
that
4
and
11
does
seem
overly
restrictive
every
day
when
it's
not
normally
that
crowded,
it
does
seem
Friday
and
Saturday
nights
and
season
it
gets
very
crowded
and
so
I
don't
know.
If
there's
a
way
for
those
certain
times
that
might
be,
but
certainly
four
to
11
every
day
seems
overly
restricted
in
that
whole
area,
and
especially
on
weekdays
and
summer
time,
so
I'm
not
sure
I
would
do
that.
H
I
would
I
would
have
that
in
there
the
hours
of
operation
I
do
agree
with
the
distance
from
from
the
market.
Special
events
did
you
say:
Riverside
was
at
200
feet.
H
And
just
to
clarify,
when
we
have
events
in
the
park
like
the
concerts
or
the
movies,
those
are
temporary
special
events
they're
permitted
for
that,
so
they
couldn't
be
within
within
college
person.
So
I
do
agree
that
we
should
have
more
Street
sidewalk
vendors
in
the
Parks
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
food
options
there.
H
What
I
would
recommend
is
that
I
don't
think
we
need
to
restrict
them
from
the
parks.
If
there
is
a
special
event,
then
that's
when
it
gets
crowded,
and
at
that
point
we
may
the
event
May
allow
them
that
right.
The
event
could
allow
it
if
they
wanted
to
that.
I
should
I'm
asking
that
as
a
question.
If,
if
we
had
the
concerts
in
the
park
or
the
movies
in
the
park-
and
they
had
the
temporary
event
permit
and
they
wanted
to
allow
Street
sidewalk
vendors,
could
they
do
that.
Q
The
the
decision
should
come
from
the
council,
because
state
law
says
that
no
private
entity
that
a
vendor
does
not
need
to
get
any
approval
from
a
private
entity
and
the
the
type
of
discretion
that
you're
allowing
kind
of
puts
it
in
the
hands
of
the
private
party.
Putting
on
the
event
so
I
I.
Think.
If
you
want
to
exempt
the
restrictions
in
Parks,
then
you
can
either
do
it
in
this
ordinance
or
you
could
do
it
as
part
of
a
resolution
establishing
those
special
vending
zones.
H
Okay,
I
don't
actually
know
legally
how
to
do
that,
because
there's
some
where
they're
there
isn't
room
and
somewhere
we
actually
want
them.
So
maybe
one
of
my
lawyer
colleagues
can
come
up
with
a
better
solution
for
that.
H
Q
I
think
perhaps
you
could
tie
it
to
I.
Imagine
that
there's
an
application
process
when
someone
applies
to
the
city
for
the
event
and
I,
imagine
that
they
list
and
expected
attendance,
and
so
you
might
tie
to
that
and
say
if
the
expected
attendance
is
above
or
below
a
certain
number,
then
you
either
can
have
or
you
cannot
have
vendors
at
that
event.
H
Okay,
well,
that's
an
option.
I
do
agree
with
the
council
member
the
heart
that
we
should
cut
the
fines
in
half
for
those
who
will
have
permits
it.
Doesn't
we
don't
want
to
be
overly
restrictive
and
I
just
want
to
clarify
the
the
health
department,
health
and
safety,
the
health
department
guidelines
all
coming
from
the
county?
There's
not
the
city's,
not
enforcing
we're
doing
it.
If
somebody
is
violating
a
violates
a
health
department,
can
the
city
remove
their
business,
their
permit.
Q
The
you're
talking
the
city's
permit
or
the
permit
they
received
from
the
county.
H
Q
The
city-
yes,
yes,
they
can.
Okay,.
H
I
also
want
to
just
mention
something
on
page
13,
we
talk
about
permit
the
business
license.
Requirements
from
the
city
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
could
actually
change
if
we
change
it
for
all
businesses,
I
brought
up
with
our
staff
about
expanding
the
information
we
have
on
business
licenses
in
general
for
all
businesses,
so
we
have
more
robust
information.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
limited
for
this
group
if
we're
doing
it
for
everybody.
G
H
H
Okay,
we
might
want
to
look
at
something
like
that,
because
if
you
had
a
row
of
tents,
it
seems
like
it
might
also
be
hard
for
the
vendors
themselves
and
not
necessarily
I,
don't
know
how
to
restrict
that
without
being
overly
restrictive.
But
if
you
had,
if
there's
no
room
for
the
a
vendor
to
manipulate
because
there's
people
on
either
side,
it
might
be
difficult
for
them
to
operate
safely,
and
so,
just
in
the
they
can't
operate
on
paths
or
any
turf
or
Landscaping.
Is
that
correct?
H
H
H
I
have
to
come
up
with
a
good
solution
for
some
of
these
things,
because
I,
don't
I,
think
48
inches.
If,
if
there's
enough
room
for
people
to
maneuver,
that's
fine
I
think
the
prohibition
in
downtown
really
has
to
do
with
when
it
gets
very
crowded.
If
there
is
an
issue-
and
that
is
particular
nights
and
times
and
Times
of
year,
and
if
there's
a
way
that
that
we
could
come
up
with
a
spec
with
just
that
period,
that
might
make
more
sense.
I
have
no
problem
with
the
hours
of
operation.
H
The
distance
from
special
events
I
would
suggest
we
do
same
as
Riverside
and
have
it
200
feet,
and
ideally,
we
should
have
allowance
when
somebody
does
a
permit
that
if
they
want
to
allow
sidewalk
vending,
they
can,
if
that's
available,
because
I
know
some
of
the
things
in
the
park
really
would
like
them
and
and
the
violation.
So
those
are
my
main,
my
name
issues.
That's
it.
A
Thank
you
very
much
in
in
terms
of
the
park.
It's
pointless
to
only
allow
vendors
to
be
on
the
path
I
mean
that's
silly
and
we've
had
sidewalk.
We've
had
Street
vendors
in
our
Parks
all
over
the
parks,
if
we're
at
least
my
whole
life
and
I'm
sure.
Before
that,
the
paletero
is
literally
pushing
his
car
on
the
grass
to
reach
the
children
who
want
ice
cream.
I
mean
this
is
silly.
If
we're
going
to
allow
Street
vendors
in
the
Parks,
they
need
to
just
be
allowed
to
be
in
the
Parks
and
access
people.
A
These
are
small
carts,
often
small
setups,
and
if
we
want
to
encourage
them
to
actually
be
in
our
parks
and
not
buy
our
businesses,
then
we
need
to
encourage
them
to
be
in
our
Parks,
fully
I
I.
We
cannot
continue
to
have
unrealistic
and
undue
restrictions,
and
especially
in
an
economy
that
has
actually
been
working
well
for
dozens
and
dozens
of
years
without
issue.
So
I
I
have
no
problems
with
making
reasonable
restrictions
in
terms
of
the
sidewalk
with
an
ADA
I
think
that's
extremely
important
for
our
residents
and
especially
yeah.
A
If
we're
having
crowded
spaces
at
certain
times,
I
do
agree
that
that's
a
problem
I
agree
with
mere
Pro
tem
on
that
there
are
times
when
Arenas
and
Palm
Canyon
are
extremely
packed
and
we
don't
want
people
to
be
have
problems.
We
don't
want
vendors
to
have
problems,
we
don't
want.
Pedestrians
have
problems.
A
The
residential
and
Commercial
District
timing,
I
think,
is
reasonable.
I
think
if
we're
going
to
do
distance
restrictions
from
special
events
200
and
to
be
in
line
with
Riverside
county
is,
is
good
too.
That's
also
just
good
public
policy
in
terms
of
being
on
the
same
page
as
our
County
and,
of
course,
I
think
we
should
have
reduced
the
fines
for
violations.
A
So
so,
I
think
that
what
we've
got
here
overall
is
something
that's
really
positive
and
that
we
can
move
forward
with,
but
but
I
really
want
to
caution
against
unnecessary
restrictions
like
saying
where
exactly
you
can
be
in
our
public
parks
that
that's
just
not
needed.
I
councilmember
holstage.
J
If
I
may
just
ask
a
follow-up
question
about
that
and
I
know
where
stuff
I
want
to
hear
from
council
member
Middleton,
so
what
I
was
also
concerned
about
the
Restriction
about
or
sorry
almost
the
requirement
that
someone
would
be
on
a
sidewalk
in
a
park?
Considering
we
have
Ada
access
in
our
Parks
as
well
and
actually
I
think
we
would
not
want
them
on
the
sidewalk
or
blocking
the
the
path
for
people
on
wheelchairs
or
other
limitations
or
other
mobility
issues.
Q
Q
J
A
J
J
Industry
that
has
operated
without
regulation
for
a
long
time
and
yes,
okay,.
H
If
I
could
just
clarify,
my
concern
was
not
to
be
overly
restricted.
My
concern
was
that
if
you
have
a
park
where
there's
Sports
fields
or
playing
fields
or
things
like
that,
that
you're
not
prohibiting
the
activity
in
the
park-
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
how
to
say
this,
but
that
was
really
like.
Certainly
not
roaming
I
mean
that's
fine,
that
doesn't.
That
would
be
great
to
go
up
to
the
kids,
but
I
mean
if
you're
having
a
sports
field,
and
you
have
a
dozen
Street
vendors
there
they've
taken
away
the
sports
field.
H
J
Yeah
and
the
mayor,
protem
I,
didn't
mean
to
call
your
proposal
overly
restrictive,
because
I
absolutely
agree
with
everything
you
laid
out.
I
would
probably
just
also
add,
narrowly
narrowly
tailoring
the
restriction
on
downtown.
So,
like
you
said,
you
know
limit
the
to
days
and
hours
instead
of
a
blanket
prohibition.
I
think
we
should
also
look
at
locations
downtown,
because
there
are
very,
we
learned
this
when
we
closed
Palm
Canyon
and
it
wasn't
busy
enough-
and
it
was
almost
like
a
ghost
town
during
the
pandemic.
J
There
are
some
areas
like
council,
member
de
heart
listed
that
are
narrow
and
might
lead
to
more
pedestrian
issues,
and
then
there
are
more
areas
that
are
broader,
that
might
be
more
appropriate
and
I
think
all
also
narrowly
tailoring
allows
us
to
limit
legal
exposure
and
sorry
to
council.
Member
tahar
I
have
to
say
three
years
of
law
school
10
years
practicing
as
an
attorney
all
this
work
with
City
attorneys
six
years
on
Council.
We
obviously
make
public
policy
to
comply
with
state
law
and
limit
legal
exposure.
J
That's
exactly
what
we're
doing
here
and
so
I
think
to
be
protective
and
comply
with
the
state
law.
We
could
just
narrowly
tailor
the
hours
the
days
the
limitations
there
and
then
I
would
also
propose
downtown
location
so
that
it
is
tailored
to
the
actual
public
safety
issues
and
then
I.
It
sounds
like
we
haven't
heard
from
councilmember,
Middleton
and
I.
Look
forward
to
that.
But
mayor
Pro,
tem,
I
agreed
with
your
comments.
A
Thank
you
so
in
in
terms
of
the
situation
with
the
the
parks
as
well,
the
vendors
that
are
in
the
parks
are
there
because
they
want
to
sell
to
the
people
who
are
playing
sports,
who
are
actually
enjoying
and
using
the
park.
So
I.
Don't
think
that
there
are
those
same
concerns
about
them
taking
over
field
space
because
they
want
the
people
to
be
setting
up
their
soccer
fields.
A
They
want
the
people
to
be
playing
baseball
or
whatever
it
is
so
that
they
can
sell
to
them
so
they're,
it's
not
within
their
economic
interest
either,
but
I
really
need
to
just
emphasize
that
we
do
want
those
paths
to
be
clear
in
the
park,
so
stationary
vendors
are
going
to
need
to
set
up
on
the
grass
in
order
for
it
to
be
a
viable
business
option
and
a
food
source
for
people
who
are
in
the
Parks
I
I
I,
just
I
think
we
have
to
really
be
thinking,
and
if
we
are
too
careful
and
restrictive
in
every
little
detail
about
what
we
write
in
this
ordinance,
then
it
doesn't
become
effective
at
all.
A
There
has
to
be
some
leeway
to
just
allow
things
to
play
out
as
they
they
normally
would
and
again
these
economies
have
been
in
place
forever
and
and
been
working,
so
I
mean
I
and
I.
Think
you
know
we're
talking
about.
Even
you
know,
desert
Highlands
they
set
up
food
in
the
park.
They've
been
doing
that
forever.
My
goodness
just
it's!
That's
that's
some
just
something
that
they've
done
and
they've
done
it
in
the
parking
lot
and
because
it's
a
community
that
is
really
tight.
It's
been
fine
and
it's
been
well
received.
A
So
we
see
it
in
every
single
Community,
every
single
neighborhood
in
different
in
different
ways.
All
right
we
do
need
to
hear
from
councilmember
Middleton,
so
councilman
from
Middleton.
Please.
O
O
We
do
have
some
disagreements
that
we're
trying
to
narrow
and
I
really
appreciate
that
with
great
respect,
I
am
the
oldest
on
this
Council
and
I
say
that
this
time
to
say,
I
grew
up
with
small
carts
too,
in
in
my
area
in
southeast
Los
Angeles
and
the
history
goes
back
for
decades
and
if
all
we
were
dealing
with
were
small
carts
in
parks
and
in
residential
neighborhoods,
most
particularly
the
poorest
of
our
neighborhoods.
We
would
not
be
here
today.
We
would
not
be
here
tonight.
O
We
would
not
be
having
any
of
this
discussion,
but
it
was
elevated,
Way,
Beyond,
small
carts,
so
I
do
have
a
couple
of
questions.
Mr
Maldonado
our
street
vendors
subject
to
California
as
the
labor
laws.
Q
O
Have
they
set
up
any
enforcement
arms
to
address
labor
law
violations
within
Street
Vending.
O
So
we
have
received
anecdotal
reports
of
wage
theft.
We
have
seen
anecdotal
reports
of
child
labor,
so
I
as
someone
who's
been
involved
in
labor
law
issues.
My
entire
adult
life
I'm
very
concerned
about
how
the
employees
of
are
treated
and
want
to
take
and
ask
that
the
state
of
California
makes
sure
that
our
labor
laws
are
enforced
and
that
we
do
not
have
exploitation
either
of
wages
or
of
use
of
independent
contractor
status
where
it
really
does
not
apply
Mr
Maldonado
who's
responsible
for
enforcing
Public
Health
requirements.
Here.
O
O
Q
Q
G
O
O
Q
They
I
know
they
have
to
get
a
land
use
permit.
That
comes
from
the
city,
though,.
O
Where
I'm
going
is
I
want
to
be
able
to
validate
that,
if
someone's
operating
on
private
property
that
we
know
in
advance
that
they
have
gotten
approval
to
be
on
private
property
right.
AH
O
Would
see
that
when
the
application
exactly
all
right,
all
right,
thank
you
to
go
through
the
six
points.
Very
specifically,
we
currently
have
a
rule
for
all
of
our
downtown
Merchants
that
if
they're
going
to
put
up
a
small
A-frame
sign
that
they
have
to
have
a
72
inch
clearance,
I
can't
see
any
justification
for
having
a
different
standard
for
sidewalk
vendors.
O
Second,
when
it
comes
to
public
safety
issues,
we
know
how
crowded
our
downtown
areas
are.
We
know
very
specifically
how
crowded
the
streets
are
around
Arenas
and
I
think
it
is
eminently
appropriate
for
us
to
prohibit
in
downtown
for
reasons
of
Public
Safety
and
one
need
only
to
additionally
take
a
look
at
the
heat
maps
of
where
there
has
been
pedestrian
automobile
accidents
over
the
course
of
many
years
in
the
downtown
area.
O
The
three
the
hours
of
operations
I
concur
with
the
recommendations
that
we
receive
from
staff
for
when
it
comes
to
special
events,
farmers,
markets
and
so
forth,
and
so
on.
I
would
prefer
500
feet,
but
would
go
lower
to
be
consistent
with
where
my
colleagues
are
I,
do
not
support
any
reduction
for
any
one
of
the
fines
and
I
support
a
rule
that
you
cannot
block
entrances
by
10
feet.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
so
at
this
this
time
we
think
we're
a
little
bit
mostly
actually
in
line
in
terms
of
these
five
items.
What
I'm?
What
I'm
hearing
is
that
we
have
a
little
bit
of
disagreements
in
terms
of
the
exact
sidewalk
with
the
prohibition
regarding
the
downtown
area
and
Arenas.
A
We
have
three
council
members
who
are
interested
in
only
certain
times
and
Times
of
year
versus
General
prohibition
for
residential
and
Commercial
District
timing.
We
all
seem
to
be
on
the
same
page
for
distance
restrictions
for
markets
and
special
events.
It
looks
like
we
can
move
forward
with
200
feet
distance
as
a
compromise,
and
then
it
looks
like
there
is
a
majority
whose
support
reduction
of
fines
for
violations.
A
Do
we
have
councilman
bro,
Holsted
or
mayor
Pro
tem?
Did
you
have
any
kind
of
comments,
because
I
think
you
too,
both
didn't
explicitly
say
well,
I,
guess,
with
a
sidewalk
with
it
did
either
mayor
Pro
tem,
you
said
48.
G
AN
H
H
That
would
be
my
thing
and
just
one
clarification
is
this:
this
I
do
want
to
make
sure
we
emphasize
this
sidewalk
vending
zones
and
the
information
I
know
that
councilmember
dehar
brought
that
up
in
the
budget
session,
but
that
were
actively
and
giving
people
information
on
how
to
do
this.
What
the
laws
and
regulations
are
so
that
we're
not
setting
them
up
for
failure.
We
so
right.
A
I
I
think
my
my
question
here
is
just
do
we
do
we
have
a
do?
We
have
a
motion
that
can
Encompass
all
of
these
these
things
or
do
we
have
a
sticking
point
with
sidewalk
with
and
the
prohibition
in
the
downtown
area,
otherwise
I
think
we
can
move
forward,
but
I'm.
That's
my
concern.
J
Yeah
I
support
mayor
Pro,
tem
Bernstein's
proposal
to
have
48
inches
of
on
a
with
unobstructed
access.
I
think
Albert
had
a
good
recommendation.
There
and
staff
can
craft
that
language
so
I
support
that,
and
then
you
know
here,
I,
don't
think
we
heard
three
votes
for
around
downtown,
or
maybe
we
did,
but
you
know,
I
would
just
ask
staff
if
there's
a
way,
if
counsel
is
narrowly
tailoring
the
downtown
overall
prohibition,
because
it
probably
is
not
very
compliant
with
state
law.
J
If
there
is
a
proposal,
planning
staff
would
have
or
other
staff
about
how
to
define
areas
in
the
city
that
are
hot
spots
for
pedestrian
safety
incidents
or
overly
crowded,
or
you
know,
crime
hot
spots
right.
You
could
think
of
a
number
of
ways
that
were
legally
able
to
limit
Street
Vending
in
those
locations
downtown
without
like
a
blanket
prohibition
on
you
know
a
number
of
square
miles
or
over
a
square
mile
staff.
Do
you
have
so
we
can
ask
staff
for
mayor
you?
A
A
It
would
be
a
motion
to
support
the
the
the
ordinance
that's
in
front
of
us,
with
the
clarification
that
the
sidewalk
with
would
be
48
inches,
unobstructed
that,
with
a
pro,
the
prohibition
in
the
downtown
area
and
Arenas
would
be
limited
per
staff
recommendation.
Obviously
this
is
again.
This
is
going
to
come
back
to
us
at
the
following
meeting,
but
per
staff
recommendation
of
of
certain
days
and
times
when
there
is
that
heavy
traffic
with
supporting
the
residential
and
Commercial
District
timing.
A
K
A
So
for
for
this
particular
motion,
it
would
be
reducing
fines,
regardless
of
whether
or
not
they
had
a
business
license.
It
would
just
be
across
the
board
in
this
scheme.
Obviously,
one
of
the
ways
that
you
could
be
fined
is:
if
you
don't
have
a
business
license,
so
it
you
would
still
be
getting
them
in
compliance.
O
Could
I
get
a
clarification
of
what
the
second
recommendation
is.
A
H
Clarification
on
the
fines
that
I
think
May
address,
so
it's
the
violation
without
a
permit.
The
first
fine
is
250
dollars
which
may
be
excessive
in
this
period,
where
people
don't
know
whether
it's
an
education
period,
so
I'm,
okay,
with
reducing
that
one,
if
it
is
a
second
or
third
fine
without
a
permit
I.
Don't
know
that
to
me
that
is-
and
that's
not
an
accidental.
That's
that's
more
intentional!
H
H
I
would
also
suggest
that
we
make
sure
that
our,
if
they're,
not
our
English
and
Spanish,
whatever
the
fine
thing,
so
that
they
understand
exactly
the
information
of
what
they
need
to
do
and
so
then
it's
sort
of
like
then
you're,
then
you
are
directly
defying
and
then
that
fine
should
not
be
reduced.
So
my
vote
would
be
the
the
with
with
a
permit.
They
should
be
in
half
without
a
permit.
The
first
fine
should
be
an
app
after
that,
as
written
as
allowed.
K
A
A
K
I
I
would
support
Friday
having
the
prohibition,
Friday,
Saturday,
Sunday
and
and
moving
on
from
that
you
know
we
don't
need
to
we.
We
know
the
busy
times
it's
Friday
Saturday
Sunday,
and
if
it's
four
to
eleven,
it's
open,
you
have
time,
you
know
that's
it's
available
app
before
and
after
that
seems
like
it
would
be
a
workable
thing.
A
And
I
and
I
will
just
point
out
as
well
for
Council
and
the
public
that
anything
that
we
pass
tonight
is
just
the
first
proposed
reading
of
this
ordinance.
So
when
it
does
come
back,
if
there
are
changes
that
need
to
be
made,
Council
does
have
the
discretion
to
make
those
changes.
So
this
isn't
the
the
end
of
this.
A
R
R
Do
so
if
we
can't
come
to
a
consensus
on
the
restrictions
that
we
want
to
impose
I
think
we
should
come
back
and
have
it
before
you
again,
but
obviously
the
more
Direction
you
can
give
us
tonight
the
more
cohesive
of
an
ordinance.
We
can
come
back
with
in
the
future
and
we
can
come
back
with
an
ordinance
at
the
next
council
meeting.
A
Do
you
consider
these
to
be
substantive,
I
mean
so
was
there?
Is
there
any
World
in
which
we
live
in,
in
which
this
would
not
come
back
as
a
first
reading.
R
A
R
A
J
H
H
R
Q
K
What
they,
what
currently
is
done
is
a
street
vendor
can
be
like,
for
instance,
for
our
parades.
A
street
vendor
can
be
issued
a
permit
to
vend,
for
that
particular
permitted
event,
and
you
know
that's
how
you
will
see
people
like
at
the
pride
parade,
so
their
vendors
come
in
from
all
over
the
place
with
rainbow
merchandise.
K
So
they
they
are.
We
invite
them
to
come
in
with
a
and
then
they
get
a
a
permit.
That
says
there
are
allowed
to
be
here
and
and
I
think
you've
got
to
leave
that
flexibility
to
the
event
organizer
who
is
is
is
obtaining
the
permit.
K
R
Q
That
is
right.
Let
me
ask
one
clarifying
question,
though:
does
anyone
on
the
staff
in
the
room
know
what
is
on
the
application
for
temporary
event
permit,
because
state
law,
the
state
law,
allows
the
city
to
put
a
bubble
around
that
event
and
say
you
can't
vent
within
this
bubble?
But
if
the
temporary
event
permit
application
allows
for
vendors
as
part
of
the
event,
then
we
may
be
talking
about
something
we
don't
need
to
decide,
because
if
the
application
already
allows
for
that,
that
is
not
inconsistent
with
the
Restriction.
K
It's
allowed
so
the
event
the
event
organizer
can
dictate
and
and
update
when
they
apply
they'll,
say
they're
gonna
they'll
have
vendors,
regular
non-food
vendors
or
food
vendors,
so
that
is
in
the
event,
permit
application,
so
I
think
I.
Think
what
you
just
said,
Albert
is
is
is
covered
and
then
things
in
the
park
like
movies
in
the
park.
They
could
invite
vendor
to
be
there
based
on
their
application
for
the
event
itself,
saying
that
they're
going
to
have
vendors.
H
I'm
not
sure
it
is
because
for
an
event
like
Pride
you're,
inviting
a
man
under
the
right
now,
it
says:
there's
a
200
feet
temporary
restriction,
so
that
would
mean
that
anybody
who
is,
if
you're
inviting
in
you
can't
stop
anyone
from
coming
in
so
I'm,
not
sure
legally
that
actually
I'm,
not
a
lawyer.
So
I
shouldn't
be
saying
this,
but
I
I,
don't
know
that
it
works.
That
I
realize
that
you
invite
vendors
in.
H
But
the
point
is:
if
we're
allowing
Street
vendors
within
temporary
special
events,
then
anyone
can
come
in
and
you
you
can't
restrict
them
in
any
way.
My
my
question
is
really
going
to
the
reverse.
We've
already
said
that
there's
a
200
feet
limit
question
is
what
if
somebody
says
I
want
to
just
open
it
up
to
anybody
who
wants
to
come
and
I'm
not
going
to
control
it
because
I
don't
know
how
you
could
do
it.
Otherwise
is
that
am
I,
making
myself
clear
or
not
you.
Q
I
think
that
if
they
are,
let's
just
use
this
stick
with
the
park
example
if
the
event
is
defined
as
within
the
park,
and
there
are
vendors
in
the
park
to
then
at
that
event,
then
I
would
consider
those
vendors
under
the
temporary
event
permit.
So
they
are
part
of
the
event
and
the
the
foot
restriction
would
be
out
starting
from
the
edge
of
the
park
outwards.
AG
Mayor
and
Council,
if
I
might
just
add
one
more
thing
on
the
restrictions,
if
you're
looking
at
the
weekend,
you
may
also
want
to
consider
holidays.
K
So
I
think
based
off
of
your
comment
and
I
believe
council
member
holstedge,
the
the
vending
in
parks,
the
link
we
have
to
strike
something
out,
because
this
is
no
different
than
what
was
brought
to
us
before
and
and
it
does
say
that
you're
on
the
sidewalk.
K
So
we
need
to
scratch
that
we
need
to
scratch
that
out
when
it
comes
to
section
589060,
page
19.,
sidewalk
Vending
in
Parks.
So
if
we're
saying
it's
okay
to
be
on
the
grass,
then
we
gotta
strike
out
the
language
that
we've
seen
that
was
before
us
prior.
Thank.
J
J
A
Q
A
So
then,
what
I
have
in
front
of
me
is
emotion
to
move
forward
with
education,
educational
materials
regarding
these,
this
new
ordinance
special
vending
zones
to
be
decided
by
resolution
at
a
future
date
allowing
for
stationary
vendors
on
the
grass
in
parks
and
then
to
go
back
to
the
five
items:
a
sidewalk
width
of
48
inches,
unobstructed,
a
Prohibition
of
the
downtown
area
and
Arenas
area
between
October
to
April,
on
Fridays,
Saturdays
and
Sundays,
from
4
to
11.,
moving
forward
with
staff
recommendation
of
residential
and
Commercial
District
timing,
a
200
foot,
distance
from
markets
and
special
events
and
reducing
fines
for
violations
in
half,
except
for
the
additional
fine.
A
Q
May
I
ask
for
clarification.
I
want
to
make
sure
I
have
this
right
for
the
fines,
so
the
first
set
of
fines,
we're
cutting
all
three
in
half
is.
Q
A
J
I
will
second
with
the
friendly
Amendment,
because
I
heard
mayor,
Pro
Tem
say
on
the
grass
and
Parks
not
to
make
this
more
complicated
than
it
already
is,
but
on
the
grass
and
Parks
excluding
you
know
like
usable
fields
or
I'm
sure
staff
can
Define
that
in
a
way
that
doesn't
include
Fields,
you
know
we
can
Define
that
in
a
way,
that's
that's
helpful,
that's
better
than
what
I'm
doing
right
now.
A
A
A
A
We
are
going
to
push
items
d
and
e
to
the
next
meeting
and
very
sorry
to
the
public
and
the
council,
members
who
wanted
to
discuss
those
items,
but
it
is
now
1107
p.m,
and
we
will
not
do
them.
Justice
item
3C
approved
changes
to
unexecuted
Fourth
contract
Amendment
with
Martha's
Village
and
kitchen
for
operations
of
the
Palm
Springs
daytime
drop-in
Access
Center.
We
do
have
to
do
that
tonight.
So
if
we
can
have
a
very
quick
staff
report
on
that.
AR
Thank
you
mayor
mayor,
Pro
tem.
This
will
be
pretty
quick,
Martha's,
Village
and
kitchen
has
requested.
We
change
the
term
of
the
agreement
we
have
with
them
for
operating
the
daytime
drop-in
center
they've.
The
request
is
that
it
functioned
only
from
July
1st
until
September
30th,
and
that
is
primarily
because
the
way
that
agreement
was
structured
was
the
city
and
Martha's
split,
cost
50
50.,
but
they're
in
a
situation
now
where
they
are
requesting
the
city
to
cover
all
the
costs,
but
for
a
shorter
amount
of
time.
AR
AR
You
know
we
are
looking
at
potentially
the
navigation
Center
being
up
in
the
in
the
next
year.
So
the
timing
of
this
is
just
something
we
have
to
kind
of
thread
the
needle
on.
So
that's
that's
why
we
wanted
to
bring
us
to
you
and
and
provide
it
as
a
discussion.
A
AR
We
will
be
working
with
Martha's
to
try
and
get
them
to
either
extend,
possibly
under
the
same
terms
as
we
have
as
what
is
being
proposed
here.
But
then
that
would
mean
the
council
accepting
covering
the
full
cost
for
the
next
three
months
six
months,
I'm,
not
sure
if
it
would
run
for
an
entire
nine
months.
If
that
would
be
necessary.
H
It
makes
me
very
uncomfortable
that
this
has
happened
now,
but
I
think
we
have
to
come
up
with
a
plan
with
Martha's
for
what's
going
to
happen
after
October
I
mean
if
they're
operating
our
navigation
Center,
we
can't
have
them
to
keep
changing
things
because
it
doesn't
bode
too
well.
So
I
don't
know
what
the
direction
is
other
than
we
got
to
find
a
solution
for
October.
It's
like
really
very
very
soon.
O
Obviously,
this
is
not
something
that's
causing
any
of
us
a
great
deal
of
comfort,
but
I.
Don't
think
we
have
any
choice
at
this
point,
and
but
I
would
ask
the
city
manager
to
keep
us
very
closely
apprised
of
how
these
conversations
with
Martha's
go,
and
this
is
a
huge
priority
for
us
to
make
sure
that
we
get.
This
worked
out
correctly.
D
If
I
may,
council
members-
so
yes,
we
are,
we
will
be
engaging
immediately
as
soon
as
we
can,
both
with
the
city
staff,
Martha's
staff
and
the
county.
Greg
Rodriguez
has
been
a
great
partner
with
us
throughout
to
work
on
a
long-term
solution.
We're
trying
to
despise
all
of
us
sometime
through
the
end
of
September
and
we'll,
hopefully
be
back
to
you
very
soon
with
with
the
longer
term
solution.
So
we
understand
that
the
nervousness
and
that
we
all
have
so.
A
I
I
go
my
colleagues
as
well.
Do
we
have
a
motion.
A
You
have
a
second
by
councilmember
Middleton.
C
A
You
at
this
time
we
will
move
to
public
comment.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
public
comment
on
non-agenda
items
that
are
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter
of
the
city.
Although
the
city
council
values
your
comments
pursuant
to
the
brown
act,
it
generally
cannot
take
any
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
agenda.
Two
minutes
will
be
assigned
to
each
speaker,
we'll
start
with
Takaya
King,
followed
by
Zachary,
Daniel
Stone
and
then
Juan
Espinosa.
AS
Hi
good
evening
need
to
take
some
time
to
express
my
experience
when
applying
for
the
village
Fest.
Let
me
say
my
name
is
Takaya
King
for
the
record
and
I
did
drop
off
a
written
report.
I
won't
go
through
it
now,
since
you
probably
just
got
it
today,
but
I
applied
for
the
village
Fest
to
be
able
to
sell
a
wellness.
AS
But
upon
my
first
meeting
on
March
28th
with
the
village
Fest
I
found
that
I
was
treated
very
discriminatory
and
harshly
I
was
treated.
Very
rudely,
I
was
interrupted.
Quite
often
I
was
made
to
fill
and
and
like
I
was
not
important
or
my
products
weren't
treated
respectfully
and
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
I
left
out
in
just
full
shock
that
you
know
here.
AS
I
am
presenting
a
presentation
printing,
it
doing
press
releases
getting
things
together,
sent
the
information
a
month
ahead
of
time
and
now
I'm
at
a
board
in
front
of
a
board
which
I
thought
would
behave
as
professionally
as
being
in
front
of
the
Shark
Tank,
and
it
was
anything
but
and
I
was
made
to
feel
that
you
know.
I
was
in
the
wrong
place
and
that
I
was
not
wanted
and
I
even
had
my
products
called
rudimentary
and
I
worked
very
very
hard
on
these
products.
AS
AS
U
All
right
see
if
I
can
get
through
these
cards.
Let's
see
you're
currently
not
collecting
food
and
beverage
tax
in
section
14
or
on
any
reservation
land.
The
tribes
collecting
that
so
I
know
you
made
a
point
of
it
earlier,
so
I'm
not
exactly
sure
how
you're
holding
them
accountable
to
collecting
that
tax.
Much
less
these
vendors,
the
wage
theft
I,
would
say
probably
similar
to
how
you're
requiring
all
these
city
employees
to
be
here
at
11,
16.,
cannabis
I
need
it
to
get
through
these
meetings
I'm
currently
without
it
homelessness,
affordable,
housing.
U
It's
a
priority,
prove
it.
You
push
some
stuff
tonight
establish
a
homeless
commission.
If
not,
why
not?
This
does
not
cost
the
city,
any
cash,
literally
a
homelessness
commission
that
is
so
simple
congrats
on
the
hotel
development
settlement.
This
is
an
excellent
example
of
resolution.
You
guys
just
ran
right
over
everything
on
the
bending
earlier,
so
that
was
one
where
you
could
have
even
stepped
back
and
said.
U
A
D
Yes,
Madam
mayor
members
of
council
I,
don't
know
if
they're
pulling
up
the
tentative
upcoming
meeting
schedule
for
May,
but
if
not
I
can
go
through
it
very
quickly.
June
26.
Our
next
meeting
is
June
29th,
but
on
June
27th
we
are
scheduling
the
full
Council
to
hear
your
final
round
of
board
appointments
there.
They
are
measure
Jay,
the
Historic,
Site
preservation
board
and
the
Planning
Commission.
So
you
can
do
that
once
the
council
makes
those
appointments.
D
Those
won't
need
to
be
agendized
on
the
29th
they'll
they'll,
be
in
effect
on
June
29th.
Obviously,
we'll
bring
We'll
have
the
two
items
so
we're
on
the
agenda
for
tonight
that
navigation,
Center
update
and
our
tot
affordable
housing
policy
will
be
added
to
the
obviously
the
important
item
there
is
approval
of
our
budget,
and
we
won't
necessarily
need
to
go
through
the
whole
presentation
that
we
did
tonight.
D
We
will.
We
are
working
on
Walk
of
Stars
program
and
renewal
of
that.
What's
not
on
here
we're
also
expecting
to
bring
back
the
the
Film
Festival
contract
renewal.
We
have
the
reserve
fund
balance
policy
that
we
talked
about
in
the
in
the
budget.
D
Presentation
and
then
our
insurance
renewals
and
then
just
going
a
little
farther
out
in
July
you'll,
see
we
are
planning
some
time
for
the
Picasso
and
food
delivery,
ordinance
discussions
in
July
and
then
even
farther
out
from
that
July
24th,
inclusionary
housing
study
and
then
it's
my
understanding,
the
city.
We
typically
go
dark
for
the
month
of
August
after
that.
So
yes,
that's
it.
Thank.
A
You
do
we
have
any
comments
or
questions
from
councilmember
Middleton.
O
Thank
you
a
couple
of
them
first
I
want
to
thank
the
mayor
for
her
outstanding
letter
to
Senator
limone
regarding
SB
584
that
have
passed
in
its
current
version
would
add
a
15
percent
tot
tax
to
all
vacation
rentals,
and
that
is
something
that
the
league
of
California
cities
has
now
identified
as
priority
issue
and
is
working
very
closely
to
try
to
gain
appropriate
amendments.
And
if
those
are
not
successful,
then
there
will
be
a
opposition
letter
that
will
be
issued.
O
Second
issue:
we've
received
a
number
of
questions
regarding
bicycle
safety
and
pedestrian
safety,
and
some
years
ago
there
was
a
master
plan
for
bike
and
pedestrian
safety
that
was
put
together,
but
that's
been
some
time
and
there
have
been
many
changes
and
we've
also
had
much
more
experience
with
the
use
of
sharrows
and
other
kinds
of
things
as
to
where
they
have
worked
and
where
they
have
not
worked.
O
I
think
it
would
be
very
appropriate
for
us
to
reconvene
a
group
of
a
task
force
with
very
specific
time
frames,
including
both
staff
and
City,
at
least
one
member
of
city,
council
and
individuals
from
the
community
to
step
back
and
take
a
look
at
the
master
plan.
What
changes
should
we
make
in
terms
of
pedestrian
and
bike
safety?
O
How
should
we
move
forward
in
terms
of
what
should
our
priorities
be
to
make
sure
that
we're
protecting
folks
in
the
best
possible
way,
and
that
would
need
to
come
back
to
us
for
for
a
vote,
but
I
would
I
would
ask
for
that
and
would
be
happy
to
volunteer
in
working
with
staff
to
try
to
develop
what
a
outline
of
a
proposal
would
look
like.
O
Lastly,
this
morning,
cvag
Transportation
Commission
heard
a
report
and
he
unanimously
approved
it
that
calls
for
cvag
to
prove
present
a
proposal
for
funding
for
the
proposed
Indian
Canyon
Bridge.
O
This
is
a
new
set
of
State
funding
to
the
tune
of
296
million
dollars.
No
individual
project
can
exceed
50
million
dollars,
that's
being
fun,
that's
being
proposed
and
with
the
revisions
that
were
made
some
years
ago
to
our
design,
we
would
be
under
50
million
dollars
for
this
bridge
this
evening,
while
we
were
in
session
CVX
executive
committee
also
unanimously
approved
moving
forward
with
that,
the
proposal
will
be
due
for
submission
by
July
31st.
H
Just
wanted
to
clarify
I
know:
I've
discussed
before
the
I
think
has
come
up
in
conversation
with
councilmember
hostage.
The
the
tot
incentive
plan
for
hotel
Renovations
does
that
do
we
need
to
vote
to
put
that
on
a
future
agenda.
H
D
D
H
AC
H
J
You
I
just
have
a
request,
so
today,
I
was
honored
to
be
on
the
steps
of
the
capital
in
Sacramento
to
support
aca5,
which
is
a
constitutional
amendment
to
enshrine
marriage
equality
into
California's
constitution.
This
is
an
effort
from
quality
California
and
the
lgbtq
caucus
many
other
partners
to
get
rid
of
the
shameful
cast
of
California
recent
past
of
Prop
8
on
passing,
to
ban
same-sex
marriage
in
California,
which
is
currently
still
on
the
book.
J
So
I
would
like
to
request
that
the
city
consider
and
add
to
Future
agenda
passing
a
resolution
in
support
of
aca5
that
Constitutional
Amendment.
This
is
important
because
if
the
Supreme
Court
does
strike
down
marriage
equality
like
they've,
struck
down,
Roe,
v
Wade
and
abortion
access
and
like
some
members,
the
Supreme
Court
have
indicated
they
want
to
do
with
same-sex
marriage.
J
Same-Sex
marriage
would
automatically
and
immediately
be
illegal
in
the
state
of
California,
so
we
have
to
change
our
constitution
so
that
we
protect
marriage
and
so
as
one
of
the
gayest
and
queerist
and
most
lgbtq
cities
in
the
country,
and
especially
in
the
state
I,
would
love
to
see
us
pass.
A
resolution
and
support.
A
A
Fantastic,
very
good,
all
right
well
with
that.
I
want
to
adjourn
this
meeting
with
very
big
congratulations
to
all
of
our
graduates.
Palm
Springs,
High,
School
graduation
is
tomorrow
and
all
of
the
rest
of
the
graduations
are
also
this
week.
So
congratulations
to
all
of
our
Coachella
Valley
students,
our
our
current
leaders,
our
Future
Leaders
or
future
council
members.
It's
very
exciting
time
for
them
all,
and
our
next
regularly
scheduled
meeting
will
be
Thursday
June
29th
2023
at
5,
30
pm
good
night.