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A
A
Please
place
your
hand
over
your
heart
and
repeat,
repeat
with
me:
I
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag
of
the
United
States
of
America
and
to
the
Republic
for
which
it
stands.
One
nation
under
God
indivisible
with
liberty
and
justice
for
all.
Thank
you.
You
may
be
seated
a
city
clerk.
Would
you
please
do
a
roll
call.
B
A
You
very
much
our
first
item
is
a
public
comment
for
the
unfinished
business
item
on
the
agenda
this
evening,
which
is
the
draft
maps
for
voting
district
boundaries.
This
time
it's
been
a
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
City
Council.
Only
on
this
item,
two
minutes
will
be
assigned
to
each
speaker.
A
C
Mayor
before
we
begin
public
comment,
if
it's
acceptable
to
you
and
to
the
council,
I
just
want
to
remind
the
public
what
we're
talking
about
tonight.
These
are
agenda
items
and
public
comment
on
agenda
items.
We're
talking
about
the
maps
we're
talking
about
the
draft
maps
that
are
here.
The
working
group
will
make
a
presentation
on
those
maps
and
we're
not
talking
about
the
wide
range
of
issues
that
the
council
will
be
considering
through
the
course
of
its
continued
discussion
and
deliberation
on
compliance
with
the
Voting
Rights
Act
and
the
ultimate
transition
to
the
districts.
C
A
You
mr.
Hawkin
and
I'm
glad
he
provided
that,
provided
that
reminder
we
are
just
talking
about
the
district
boundary
maps,
the
ones
that
have
been
here.
Our
goal
tonight
is
to
weed
this
down
to
a
smaller
number,
so
other
items
such
as
a
number
of
districts,
the
way
the
mayor's
set
up,
etcetera
or
not
items
for
public
comment
tonight,
just
the
maps.
So
if
anyone
has
any
comments
on
that,
please
save
them
for
another
City
Council
meeting.
D
E
A
F
Am
part
of
the
leadership
team
of
organized
neighborhoods
of
Palm
Springs
in
the
sand
very
familiar
with
the
functioning
of
one
PS
and
its
member
neighborhoods,
but
for
the
record,
I
am
speaking
this
evening
in
my
individual
cab
bike
capacity
and
not
on
behalf
of
one
PS.
I
would
like
to
thank
Council
for
its
strong
commitment
to
public
input
and
carrying
out
the
districting
process
as
part
of
that
process.
I
submitted
maps,
this
reflect
the
US
Supreme,
Court's
definition
of
community
of
interest
and
the
goals
and
veer
in
your
statement
of
principles.
F
Those
goals
include
prioritizing
creation
of
majority
minority
districts
and,
to
the
extent
practical,
keeping
organized
neighborhoods
intact.
The
five
district
map
I
submitted
creates
a
district
whose
population
is
a
majority
minority
and
keeps
intact
44
the
45
Palm
Springs
organized
neighborhoods,
whose
boundaries
have
previously
been
approved
by
the
city
manager,
using
criteria
similar
to
the
community
of
interest
analysis.
F
The
five
districts
are
each
compact
since
the
Supreme
Court
has
identified
compactness
as
a
traditional
districting
principle,
a
community
of
interest
analysis
for
each
district
to
included
with
my
maps
that
are
part
of
the
record
of
your
September
27
special
meeting
among
the
key
features
are
dividing
downtown.
So
two
council
members
share
responsibility
for
this
critical
area
for
the
city's
economic
development
and
creating
districts
of
neighborhoods
that
share
common
concerns
such
as
new
developments,
Golf
Course
conversions,
as
we
heard
last
night
and
airport
noise.
F
Are
your
jutsu
include
my
map
among
those
that
you
will
select
this
evening.
Among
the
other
maps
submitted,
the
NDC
smoked
rap
mat.
A
smoked
tree
map
achieves
many
of
the
same
objectives
as
mine,
but
I
had
to
ask
you
to
consider
the
variance
of
that
map
submitted
by
Ms
Miller
to
bring
the
Lawrence
Krauss
Lee
neighborhood
into
district
1
by
mr.
hind,
bowed
to
keep
this
Upper
West
Side
neighborhood
intact,
as
shown
in
the
combined
map
submitted
by
the
cer
working
group,
which
I
just
saw
right
before
we
began.
F
A
G
Virginia
mr.
mayor
city,
council,
city
manager,
staff,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
my
name
is
Tony
Aguilar
I'm,
the
resident
of
Palm
Springs
for
33
years,
been
active
in
the
community,
doing
a
number
of
things
for
this
/
time.
I
am
a
retired,
submarine
nuclear
terrain,
submarine
officer,
and
we
had
a
say
in
the
submarine
service.
If
it
ain't
broke,
don't
fix
it.
You
folks
are
trying
to
do
something
here
that
it's
untold
you
necessary.
It's
not
warranted.
G
A
Avila
I'm,
so
I
really
appreciate
your
sentiments
here,
but,
as
I
mentioned
a
moment
ago,
in
the
end,
the
district
and
the
city
attorney
pointed
out
by
law.
We
can
only
discuss
the
subject
tonight,
which
is
the
district
boundaries.
Unfortunately,
the
subject
of
number
of
districts
and
how
we're
setting
it
up
that
ship
sailed
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
So
we're
speaking
about
the
maps
and.
A
I
A
A
Perhaps
I
have
this
under
control:
I,
don't
need
to
be
advised.
Okay,
mr.
king
again,
as
I
told
miss
Wright
we'll
are
that
ship
sailed
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
tonight
we're
only
discussing
the
maps
that
aren't
that
we're
providers,
a
part
of
the
agenda
I,
certainly
welcome.
We
certainly
welcome
your
comments,
but
this
is
not
the
time
in
the
place
for
it
and
then
our
next
regular
meeting
during
the
general
comment
section.
That
would
be
very
welcome.
It's.
I
C
C
Also,
add
you,
you
were
very
correct
in
your
statement
about
what's
on
the
agenda
tonight,
but
I
would
also
add
for
those
in
the
community
that
want
to
make
comment
regarding
some
of
the
issues
you
listed.
Those
opportunities
will
exist
again.
Not
only
did
the
ship
sail
in
terms
of
consideration
of
the
issue,
but
those
issues
will
be
considered
again
when
the
council
considers
what
ordinance
to
adopt
correct.
A
That,
as
I
said,
every
City
Council
meeting,
we
have
an
opportunity
for
people
to
speak
on
anything
they'd
like
to
speak
to
within
the
aegis
of
the
City
Council
meeting
and
that
and
they
can
do
that
you're
most
correct.
Unfortunately
tonight
are
we
have
a
very
limited
agenda,
which
is
just
the
maps
that
were
provided
tonight
for
us
to
consider
Thank
You
mr.
king,
okay,
I
guess
continue
so.
I
Don't
remember:
host
has
stated
that
the
maps
that
you
eliminated
in
order
to
get
to
the
four
Maps
tonight
was
the
only
option
consistent
with
state
law.
This
contradicts
statements
made
by
the
city
attorney
in
fort
that
four
districts,
as
a
viable
approach
quote
and
would
have
a
reasonable
likelihood
of
being
confirmed.
Last
meeting,
you
considered
eight
maps
tonight
you're
considering
four.
If
any
of
these
maps
were
inconsistent
with
state
law,
the
staff
would
have
had
the
Professional
Responsibility
to
tell
you
that
the
city
attorney
has
not
told
you
they're
inconsistent.
I
He
cannot
tell
you
that
they
violate
state
law,
because
he
knows
there
is
precedent.
Metrico
kamongo,
in
our
democracy,
the
City
Council,
could
not
overturn
a
vote
of
the
people
unless
it
violates
state
law,
it
would
have
to
make
a
finding
then
that
only
four
districts
only
five
districts
meet
state
law
which
it
clearly
does
not
insofar
as
the
Hispanic
and
minority
populations.
The
differences
among
all
eight
maps,
including
the
four
before
you
tonight,
are
marginal
and
inconsequential
all
of
the
maps.
Whether
four
or
five
districts
comply
with
state
law.
I
Only
the
four
district
directly
elected
mayor
maps
comply
with
Palm
Springs
law.
You
have
claimed
that
five
districts
is
more
equitable
because
of
greater
concentration
of
Hispanic
and
minority
total
population
and
voting
population.
Your
own
data
does
not
support
this
claim
the
population
that
it
was
a
real
motivation
to
have
the
four-night
the
bar
mats
before
you
tonight.
I
You
would
retained
all
four
of
the
four
district
max
because
all
of
the
four
district
maps
have
the
same
or
more
Hispanic
minority
populations
in
district
run
than
two
of
the
four
five
district
maps
I
have
to
request.
If
you
disagree
publicly
state,
why
you
believe
it
directly
elected
mayor
as
a
violation
of
state
law
and
publicly
tell
us
upon
what
legal
authority
you
have
to
overturn
a
vote
of
the
people?
I
Secondly,
let
the
people
decide
in
order
to
conform
to
the
timetable,
adopt
the
four
district
option
and
let
the
people
choose
between
the
two
options
in
a
future
election.
In
summary,
don't
block
the
will
of
people
based
on
your
own
personal
preferences.
You
have
a
date
to
disagree
that
four
Maps
is
better
or
five
Maps
is
better
than
four,
but
you
did
not
have
the
right
to
violate
the
basic
state
law.
Thank.
A
I
Mayor
Moonen
council,
thank
you
for
agreeing
to
speak.
I
had
expected
this.
The
composition
of
today
that
we're
actually
going
to
have
a
different
type
of
meeting,
so
I
did
not
come
prepared
with
advance
remarks,
but
I
can
make
them
and
make
them
fairly.
Briefly.
I'm
speaking,
primarily
about
some
of
the
criteria
I
used
and
coming
up
with
a
map.
I
have
one
of
the
maps.
I
I
thought
that
housing
composition
would
was
a
major
factor
in
the
city
that
would
reflect
the
economic
and
cultural
factors
that
are
of
concern
about
the
direction
of
the
city
that
people
from
affordable
housing
renters
would
have
more
in
common
and
they
needed
more
representation.
So
my
mapping
is
designed
as
much
as
possible
to
reflect
to
draw
on
neighboring
neighborhoods
that
have
not
neighborhoods
districts
that
have
commonality
in
terms
of
the
composition
of
the
housing.
They
have
apartments,
mobile
home
parks,
small
housing.
I
J
Good
evening,
mister
at
City
Council
as
we
look
at
these
maps,
there
are
one
common
thing
that
concerns
me
on
four,
but
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
is
they
don't
dissect
downtown
east
to
west,
nor
to
all
the
much
wealthier
communities
to
the
west
of
Palm
Canyon?
So
what
we
are
in
essence
doing
is
creating
a
district
that
is
extremely
wealthy
and
the
concern
about
that
is
those
are
very
expensive
elections
right
now.
J
J
The
last
three
in
your
package,
plus
Smoketree,
in
other
words,
create
this
from
ramon
all
the
way
to
chena
visto,
all
of
downtown
movie
colony
and
everything
to
the
west
and
I
hope
that
can
be
a
factor
in
our
determining
understanding
that
we
have
to
look
at
the
demographics,
but
I
hope
we
don't
create
what
is
really
could
become
a
a
wealthy
district
with
very
expensive
races.
Thank
you.
Thank.
K
Mr.
mayor
Mayor,
Pro,
Tem
and
council
members,
staff
I
think
there
are
some
wonderful
maps
that
citizens
have
worked
on
and
that
the
committee
has
worked
on.
The
one
thing
that
I
would
ask
is
a
few
of
the
maps
do
separate
neighborhoods
or
neighborhoods,
which
are
HOAs.
The
neighborhood
in
which
I
live.
Four
seasons
is
one
of
them
that
is
separated
on
two
or
three
of
the
maps
and
I'd.
Ask
you
to
consider
keeping
neighborhoods
and
HOAs
together,
and
that's
all
that
I
have
to
ask.
Thank
you
for
this
work.
I.
A
L
Good
afternoon
mayor
councilmembers
staff,
my
name
is
Jeter
Crawford
I
live
in
the
desert,
island
gateway,
Estates
neighborhood
and
my
preferred
map
I
submitted
a
map.
It
was
similar
to
the
Smoketree
one,
and
only
thing
that
was
pretty
much
different
was
I
would
like
to
see
the
Lawrence
Crossley
neighborhood
included
with
the
desert
Highland
and
the
San
Rafael
mobile
home
parks
and
golden
sands
sands,
as
well
as
veterans
track
and
the
DeMuth
Park
neighborhood
I.
Think
that
would
give
minorities
the
best
chance
of
being
elected.
K
A
Thank
you,
mr.
Crawford,
no
other
speakers.
Mr.
Mejia,
therefore
we
will
close
the
public
comments,
portion
unfinished
business,
a
provide
direction
regarding
draft
maps
for
voting
district
boundaries
for
a
city
council
district
based
electoral
system
pursuant
to
Election
Code
section
one:
zero:
zero
one
zero,
and
do
we
want
subcommittee
to
make
a
report
here?
Okay,.
E
M
M
M
We
prepared
this
work.
We
worked
together
on
our
recommendations
and
we
filtered
that
through
the
principles
that
you
gave
us
back
in
April,
max
maximizing
the
goals
of
the
CVRA,
including
civil
rights,
equality
and
inclusion,
and
this
really
boils
down
to
elimination
or
prevention
of
the
dilution
of
minority
voting
blocs
and
the
consideration
of
communities
of
interest
and
the
priority
to
prioritize
the
creation
of
a
minority
minority
majority
minority
district
and,
to
the
extent
practical,
keep
organized
neighborhoods
intact.
M
We
worked
primarily
with
the
maximization
of
the
goals
and
keeping
the
neighborhoods
intact
tonight.
Those
are
the
two
filters
that
we
used
for
this.
The
one
filter
we
didn't
use
is
where
any
of
you
lived,
we
kept
that
information
completely
out
of
our
deliberations
and
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that,
and
three
of
us
worked
with
Anthony
on
this
report
myself
at
doopy
and
grace
garner
and
I'm
going
to
hand
this
over
to
Ed
and
grace
who
are
going
to
do
the
presentation.
Thank
you
and
we'll
be
here
for
questions.
N
Eliminating
the
apps
in
our
process,
there
were
four
steps
in
this
process.
The
first
of
all,
we
only
reviewed
submitted
maps
and
our
first
step
that
we
took
was
we
eliminated
maps
that
were
not
compliant
with
the
hard
criteria
that
were
set
under
the
law.
So
any
map
that
was
for
districts
was
eliminated,
anything
that
was
not
balanced
in
population
among
the
five
districts
remembered
the
10%
rule,
anything
that
was
not
compact.
N
This
we've
talked
about
before
this
is
where
total
population,
when
you
look
at
the
Hart
demographic
for
total
population,
does
become
diluted
when
you
move
that
to
citizens
of
voting
age
population
because
of
children
because
of
green
card
holders,
the
various
things
that
we've
already
discussed,
then
in
our
final
step,
we
looked
at
the
demographics
that
are
consistent
with
the
CVRA.
This
is
the
balance
of
majority
to
minority
population
and
in
that
final
maps
that
we
arrived
at
as
we
after
we
applied
the
dilution
factor.
We
moved
from
nineteen.
O
So
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
communities
of
interest,
there's
a
lot
that
goes
on
in
this
presentation.
It's
very
dense,
so
we're
gonna
give
just
a
pretty
quick
overview
of
everything.
If
you
do
have
questions
later,
we're
happy
to
go
through
them.
So
just
some
of
the
communities
of
interest
that
we
looked
at.
We
looked
at
schools,
community,
centers,
organized
neighborhoods,
mobile
home
parks,
golf
courses,
cultural
identities,
families
with
school-age
children,
socioeconomic
status,
as
well
as
existing
districts
such
as
the
healthcare
district
infrastructure,
General
Plan
data
Airport
noise.
O
Those
are
also
just
an
example
of
some
of
the
things
we
looked
at
so
we're
gonna
move
you
forward,
so
the
recommendations
that
we
have
tonight
are
for
four
different
maps:
the
agave
map,
the
Smoketree
map,
the
pearl
map
and
the
Crawford
map,
and
these
maps.
The
the
most
important
things
is
that
they
prevent
minority
voter
dilution
and
that
we've
maintained
communities
of
interest.
So
that's
and.
N
O
The
first
map
that
we're
going
to
show
you
is
the
agave
map,
and
what
we've
done
here
with
those
red
circles
is
just
made
it
very
clear
what
the
impacted
neighborhood
organizations
are.
Unfortunately,
there
are
impacted
neighborhoods
and
in
every
map
and
I
think
that
was
across
the
board,
regardless
of
whether
it
was
our
map
or
that
we
chose
or
someone
else's,
and
those
in
this
area
are
the
gateway
area
area
near
the
airport,
gene
autry,
little
Tuscany
movie,
colony,
east
sunrise,
Park,
Upper,
West,
Side
and
whitewater
Club.
O
Now
the
agave
map,
when
I
point
out
district
one
to
you
district
wine
goes
along
the
the
northern
part
of
the
city
and
down
into
the
Jim
youth
Park
area.
The
this
district
is
about
the
same
in
all
of
the
maps
that
we're
going
to
show
you
with
just
slight
variations.
The
big
as
similarities
are
that
the
socioeconomic
status
is
similar
to
similar.
This
is
where
the
majority
of
our
families
live,
including
young
children,
and
then
they
have
a
lot
of
similar
environmental
factors.
O
You
know
witches
include
sand,
wind
and
and
odors,
whether
it's
from
cannabis
or
something
else,
and
then
as
far
as
districts,
two
three
four
five.
Those
districts
are
also
relatively
similar
in
all
of
our
maps
demographically,
especially,
but
the
other
thing
is
that
the
infrastructure
and
terrain
is
what
changes
as
long
as
well
as
whether
or
not
the
map
moves
east
to
west
or
north
to
south,
and
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
the
southern
part
of
of
the
maps
for
all
of
these
areas
is
more
of
our
retired
community.
N
And
we
do
have
to
apply
to
each
map
the
hard
demographic
data
that
was
provided
to
us.
What
we
would
like
to
point
out
here
when
you
you
can
see
the
dilution
factor
as
it
applies
from
the
total
population
of
the
citizens
voting
age
population
in
Zone.
One
does
get
us
to
a
50
percent
playing
field,
also
the
demographics
that
apply
to
such
things
as
the
language
spoken
at
home,
the
children
that
are
in
households,
the
percentage
of
the
population
that
is
employed
as
we
move
across.
N
P
O
If
you
want
to
go
back
so
just
to
give
a
little
explanation
about
these
slides,
you're
gonna
see
this
slide
again
and
again,
which
is
why
we
are
saying
that,
but
for
now
we
can
make
sure
to
leave
it
up,
but
they're
they're,
basically
the
same
which
is
which
is
ours.
But
this
is
listing
all
of
the
communities
of
interest
for
that
Northern
District,
one,
which
we
talked
about
to
some
of
the
things
that
I
mentioned
and
then
the
second
slide
goes
through
those
other
two
other
districts.
The.
N
N
It's
okay:
are
we
going
to
it
Gotham
APIs,
but
we've
been
asked:
let's,
let's
move
on
to
the
second
map.
The
second
map,
R,
is
the
Smoketree
map
and
actually
what
we
would
like
to
point
out
here.
This
was
a
map
that
we
were
able
to
combine
two
maps
that
had
been
submitted
in
addition
to
the
demographer
smoke,
three
map
that
we
easily
were
able
to
combine
because
they
were
based
on
the
smoke
tree
map
and
in
applying
the
differentiation.
N
The
first
map
is
the
hind
belt
modification,
which
is
meant
to
keep
Upper
West
Side
neighborhood
intact.
That
was
an
easy
fix
because
it
moved
from
district
to
district
1
that
neighborhood
it
did
not
impact
the
balance
between
the
districts
beyond
10%.
The
other
map
that
was
considered
in
this
is
the
Miller
1
map,
which
incorporates
the
Lawrence
Crossley
neighborhood.
That
is
allowed
that
we
have
put
forward,
because
if
that
neighborhood
does
not
impact
the
total
population
again
the
map
remains
balanced
and
at
that
is
a
neighborhood
that
we
do
have
a
map.
O
What
we
we
see
again
is
that
the
language
spoken
at
home
that
is
not
English,
is
more
predominant
in
district
1
we
again
see
districts
4,
&
5
is
the
majority
of
our
residents,
who
are
six
year
older,
and
then
we
have
a
lot
of
working
age.
Folks
who
are
in
districts,
1,
&
2,
that's
the
majority
of
our
working
sector
and.
N
What
we'd
like
to
point
out
there's
a
lot
of
numbers
that
we're
going
through
here
tonight.
We
realize
that
we
will
be
doing
additional
meetings
with
the
public
and
to
discuss
all
these
dimensions.
We
have
a
tendency
to
glaze
over
when
there's
too
many
numbers
presented,
but
we'd
like
to
to
let
everyone
know
that
we
will
have
more
time
to
actually
discuss
these
numbers
in
depth.
O
O
O
N
N
D
N
Are
not
identical,
there
are
some
minor
differences
between
the
maps.
The
most
important
one
is.
The
Crawford
map
combines
the
we
don't
have
really
a
point
of
it.
If
you
look
in
the
upper
north
east
corner
of
you
will
see
that
the
Whitewater
community
that
surrounds
the
Golden
Sands
mobile
home
park
is
included
in
district
1
and
the
do
be
map
5.
N
D
N
What
what
I'm
saying
is
in
the
Crawford
map?
There
is
a
shift
to
the
the
neighborhood
for
white
water
at,
and
that
is
done
by,
of
course,
to
keep
within
total
population
boundary
by
shifting
the
El
Mirador.
The
do
B
map
5
is
available
and
worked
up.
If
you
would
like
to
see
that
as
well
since
that
was
submitted
by
me,
I'm
looking.
O
D
N
N
O
O
N
One
of
the
things
we
would
like
to
point
out
is
one
of
the
communities
is
interest
that
we
looked
at
for
the
first
district
district.
One
is
the
shared
boundaries
that
are
along
our
eastern
border,
and
in
doing
so,
we
went
and
looked
at
the
cat
city
map
that
was
done.
The
Cathedral
City
final
map
that
has
already
been
approved
and
released,
and
we
wanted
to
put
this
up
because
we
want
to
show
you
certain
similarities
that
apply
to
our
process.
That
has
been
done.
N
You
will
see
in
this
map
that
they
also
have
five
districts
district,
one
district
for
our
majority
Latino
districts.
They
are
majority
minority
districts,
the
border,
Palm,
Springs,
District.
Five
is
a
also
a
much
majority
minority
district
with
the
combined
minorities
that
are
within
cat
city.
District
two
is
an
equal
playing
field
district,
so
four
out
of
the
five
districts
meet
the
CVR,
a
criteria
for
equal
playing
field
or
better
for
minorities.
The
third
district
is
very
interesting.
You
will
notice
that
it
looks
very
similar
to
our
district,
one
that
is
their
minority
district.
N
O
N
O
And
Kathy
can
talk
to
you
more
about
that,
but
if
you
have
specific
questions,
we're
happy
to
answer
them
again.
Like
I
said,
there's
just
a
lot
of
information
here
and
we
felt
like
it
might
be
a
better
use
of
our
time
in
your
time
in
the
communities
time.
If
you
asked
specific
questions
rather
than
us,
slogging
through
and
making
this
an
hour-long
presentation.
I
do
want
to
remind
everyone
in
this
room
that
on
Tuesday
October
23rd
at
6:30
p.m.
O
N
E
Thank
you.
The
work
that
the
working
group
has
done
has
just
been
incredible
and
we
are
absolutely
in
your
debt
from
a
process
standpoint.
The
subcommittee:
what
recommendation
is
that
we
don't
spend
a
great
amount
of
time
tonight,
trying
to
fine-tune
any
of
these
maps.
Frankly,
I.
Don't
think
we
need
to
do
much
of
any
in
terms
of
fine-tuning
maps.
E
This
is
the
evening
to
narrow
down
the
three
four
or
five
maps
that
we
think
are
the
best
maps
to
then
be
able
to
over
the
next
month,
with
community
input
be
able
to
make
the
fine
tuning
G
I
think
this
neighborhood
can
be
held
together.
If
we
move
the
boundary
lines,
a
few
blocks
to
the
north
or
a
few
blocks
to
the
east
or
I
would
like
to
see
us
whole
separate
these
two
neighborhoods,
because
they
don't
actually
have
much
in
the
way
of
community
of
interests.
Q
Thank
you
and
thank
you
to
the
working
group.
I
know
this
was
yet
another
big
chunk
of
work
and
really
appreciate
it
and,
of
course,
having
all
the
demographic
data-
and
we
do
have
our
demographer
here
as
well.
So
the
council
knows
that
if
there
are
questions
and
my
understanding
is
tonight,
we're
just
taking
the
maps
we're
not
doing
any
tweaking
of
them
right,
I.
B
Q
Seeing
them
apps
I,
think,
will
get
much
more
in-depth
input
from
people
and
the
one
thing
and
I
just
want
to
ask
and
looking
at
all
the
maps
is.
You
know
the
one
community
of
interests
that
didn't
come
up
as
much
in
the
community
meetings,
but
councilmember,
Middleton
and
I
heard
and
I
heard
a
lot
as
liaison
to
a
lot
of
the
business
organizations,
and
we
heard
tonight
was
about
whether
or
not
downtown
should
have
multiple
people
three
or
four
and
I.
Q
M
The
downtown
merchants
and
they
weren't
as
concerned
about
making
sure
that
the
business
district
was
broken
up
or
in
a
specific
district.
Most
of
those
merchants
told
us
that
they
lived
in
Palm
Springs
and
they
would
probably
also
relate
to
the
the
districts
based
on
where
they
lived,
but
we
did
try
and
present
maps
that
at
least
showed
the
business
district
coming
into
a
couple
of
different
configurations.
M
Q
N
It
is
in
what
we
got
forward.
As
I
pointed
out.
We
did
review
the
19
maps
for
communities
of
interest
of
in
those
maps
that
did
not
meet
the
dilution
factor
there.
We
saw
this,
so
we
made
sure
that
we
applied
the
due
diligence
to
keep
those
communities
of
interest
in
mind
when
we're
looking
at
other
maps
for
consideration.
Thank
you.
P
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
I
also
had
those
concerns
and
and
thinking
about
downtown
and
how
many
council
members
we
want
representing
the
downtown,
and
some
of
my
questions
were
about
the
Dewey
maps.
So
if,
if
you
don't
mind,
could
you
just
come
up
and
explain
because
you
did
a
wide
variety
of
maps
and
I
was
trying
to
compare
each
one,
but
I
didn't
get
a
full
briefing
from
you
about
what
were
you
were?
P
You
were
thinking
because
I
actually
think
that
those
do
be
maps
did
a
better
job
than
other
maps
and
that
the
working
group
didn't
recommend
in
splitting
our
palm
canyon
111
into
and
splitting
those
business
districts
into
having
four
council
members
or
more
that
are
connected
to
our
business
corridors.
Could
you
talk
briefly
about
sorry
to
put
you
on
the
spot.
N
The
set
of
doobie
maps
that
was
applied,
my
first
map
that
I
really
put
forward,
was
based
on
the
principle
of
Occam's
razor,
okay
and
I.
Don't
know
whether
you
know
what
Occam's
razor
age,
but
it's
a
principle
in
science
that
the
most
elegant
solution
is
the
simplest
solution.
So
I
took
an
eagle
eye
view.
I
looked
at
what
is
important
to
all
communities
in
Palm
Springs,
and
it
appeared
to
me
that
that
was
water.
N
It's
in
our
name
and
if
you
look
at
the
map
and
you
look
at
where
the
washes
go,
how
our
water
flows
and
move
back
and
apply
that
it
was
very
interesting.
The
demographics
that
flowed-
and
this
is
in
terms
of
total
population,
naturally
flowed
to
provide
majority-minority
districts
and
total
population
and
broke
down
into
what
we
looked
at
and
those
those
washes
basically
that
set
up
those
first
maps
gave
stewardship
for
each
district
over
part
of
the
washes
that
we
have.
So
those
communities
of
interest
were
the
same
fight
across
the
districts.
N
P
Thank
you
and
I
agree.
It
would
have
been
nice
if
we
could
have
maps
that
we
could
put
over
each
other
in
some
way
to
compare,
because
I
was
also
I'm,
not
a
expert
at
looking
at
maps,
and
it's
not
really
the
way.
My
brain
processes,
information
I
like
but
I,
agree
that
choosing
some
maps
that
are
very
different
is
helpful
in
this
process.
So
then
we
can
get
more
community
feedback
about
what
values
are
important
and
what
communities
of
interests
are
really
important
to
our
residents.
P
N
Out
of
the
maps
I
put
forth
and
please
let
me
reiterate
the
dilution
factor
that
was
applied
as
the
citizens
of
voting
age,
which
I
wrote
a
letter
to
the
Desert
Sun
to
try
to
clarify
why
this
was
applied
to
my
maps
and
they
didn't
move
forward.
My
favorite
map,
I,
think
out
of
those
maps,
is,
do
be
for
a
I
do
believe.
C
N
And
and
some
of
these
maps
were
done
so
we
could
have
a
dialogue
when
we
were
going
out
and
talking
with
the
public
on
trade
offs
that
would
be
in
maps
and
also
to
give
you
the
ability
to
talk
about
those
kind
of
trade
offs
just
to
moving
a
single
district.
For
example,
if
you
look
the
differentiation
between
map,
one,
a
B,
C
and
D
just
moves
little
Beverly
Hills
between
Maps.
N
It
moves
the
the
district
that
includes
the
Park
View
mobile
homes
at
the
curve,
because
the
curve
of
the
southern
district
is
part
of
the
change
in
the
healthcare
districts
that
we
look
at.
The
southern
part
of
the
districts
of
Palm
Springs
fall
in
health
district
E,
and
that
goes
all
the
way
up
to
talk
with
rivers.
States
where,
as
Anna
Northern
District
in
our
district,
one
or
healthcare
district
C,
and
we
also
have
one
community
of
interest.
That
is
all
the
way
to
the
east
side,
which
is
the
Cathedral
Canyon
Country
Club.
Very
interesting.
N
P
N
And
that
five
were
done
so
that
they
show
communities
moving
from
east
to
west.
That
was
meant
to
break
up
the
downtown
business
district
and
to
give
each
district
a
purview
moving
from
east
to
west
across
it's
just
another
way
of
looking
at
it
and
frankly,
I
was
not
as
thrilled
with
that
map,
as
I
was
with
the
map
b1d,
because
the
1d
map
actually
gets
us
to
communities
that
are
majority
minority
district
where
they
are
in
the
majority.
However,
the
dilution
factor
does
not
hold.
P
Thank
you.
That's
all
I'll,
throw
you
about
for
the
maps.
Thank
you.
I
just
have
a
few
other
questions
for
city
staff
or
the
subcommittee
or
the
working
group.
So
we
chose
five
as
a
five
maps
as
a
goal,
there's
no
requirement
how
many
we
choose
right,
but
that
was
the
goal
in
the
direction
to
the
working
group
and
just
thinking
about
how
we
want
to
do
this,
and
if
there
are
a
number
of
maps
that
we
like
and
then
how?
How
closely
can
we
change
the
boundaries
of
those
maps?
H
H
What
we
do
is
we
crew
is
we
use
that
feedback
to
determine
what
those
revisions
should
be
other
than
perhaps
minor
changes
to
try
to
get
maybe
a
neighborhood
to
altogether
or
not
today,
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
hopefully
take
these
19
maps
and
come
up
with
a
set
of
around
five
that
work
or
your
meetings
over
the
next
month.
Thank.
P
You
I
just
have
one
final
question
is:
have
we
talked
about
how
the
roads
work
on
the
map,
so
I
saw
like
111
on
a
lot
of
maps
was
split
if
it
runs
north-south.
You
know
where
that
line
is
and
where
it
includes
like
what
business
is
on
each
side.
It
would
include
things
like
that.
So
when
are
we
gonna
get
there?
Really?
These
are
large,
really
zoomed
out
Maps.
So
when
are
we
gonna
get
really
the
nitty-gritty
of
the
roads.
H
P
You
and
I
wonder
if
we
could
have
computers
available
for
some
of
these
meetings
so
that
it's
really
hard
personally
for
me
to
look
at
a
big,
a
map,
and
so,
if
we
had
laptops
or
something
available
where
people
could
actually
zoom
in
and
look
Street
by
street
I
think
that
would
be
really
helpful.
I've,
no
other
questions
right
now,
I'll,
let
others
ask
questions
and
then
I'll
comment.
D
Thank
you
for
letting
us
know
about
the
web
viewer
in
the
overlay,
because
I
think
the
overlay
is
an
important
tool
in
in,
in
my
shake
out
in
my
own
head
on
these
maps,
the
maps
that
I'm
coming
to
are
extremely
similar
and
specifically
to
that
I
that
I'm
finding
work
the
best.
So
the
web
viewer
will
be
helpful
for
our
audience
at
home
and
those
who
would
be
watching
what
is
the
website
for
the
web
viewer
its.
B
D
That's
possible
to
put
on
the
screen
tonight
and
keep
it
on
the
screen
tonight.
That
would
be
great
for
those
who
are
just
tuning
in
and
paying
attention
to
this
you
know,
I
mean
what
I'm
finding
in
the
community
is
now
that
we're
down
getting
down
to
brass
tacks
or
maps.
People
are
paying
attention
and
now
would
be
the
time
to
pay
attention.
So
thank
you
very
much.
I.
D
D
N
F
D
Or
dieter
if
you'd
come
up
as
well,
just
because
the
two
maps
that
I
find
the
most
compelling
are
are
the
Crawford
map
and
the
Doobie
map.
Five
and
again
that
to
me,
they're,
almost
identical
and
I
realize
that
we'll
get
into
the
weeds
later
on
the
fine
tuning
of
these
but
I'm
impressed
with
this
map,
because
I
think
it
accomplishes
a
tremendous
amount.
I
think
the
things
that
I
like
the
most
about
it
are
very
much
like
the
downtown
divided
into
at
least
four
districts.
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
D
D
Component
in
that-
and
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me
and
in
those
two
maps
you
you
guys
accomplished
that
and
I
and
I'm
very
impressed
with
that
I
think
that
there's
a
a
good
argument
for
combining
the
desert
island
and
the
Crossley
into
one
district,
and
just
for
the
reasons
that
you
stated
earlier,
theater
that
it
will
make
it
easier
for
someone
to
get
elected
there
and
I
think
so
too.
I
think
you
make
a
good
point
with
that.
So
again,
I
guess:
I,
don't
you
you
add!
D
D
Neighborhoods
I
haven't
really
zeroed
in
on
yet
that's
hard
for
me
to
see
in
these
maps.
Maybe
you
can
tell
me
how
many
neighborhood,
how
many
neighborhoods
are
divided
in
this
map
or
do
one
of
you
yeah
in
do
be
five
I
see
do
be
five
and
Crawford
one
is
virtually
the
same
map
other
than
minor
changes.
I'll.
L
Point
out
the
small
changes.
If
you
look
on
do
be
five.
The
Racquet
Club
neighborhood
they're,
the
Racquet
Club,
was
state's
neighborhood
on
my
map.
It
follows
San
Rafael
down
and
it
doesn't
include
the
racket.
Club
estates,
I,
see
that
and
then
I
pulled
out
the
mobile
home
park
of
golden
sands,
which
is
a
couple
hundred
Hispanic
residents.
So
that's
what
I
was
trying
to
achieve
with
that.
If
you
look
on
doobies,
his
is
blue
there
and
the
four
seasons
and
the
golden
sands
area
I.
D
N
D
H
N
Here
again,
my
the
map
that
I
did
the
original
do.
B5
map
was
an
adjustment,
a
alternative
offer
to
the
Smoketree
map
that
still
applied
the
washes
that
I
talked
about
that
I
held
throughout
most
of
my
maps.
So
you
will
see
the
main
difference
to
this.
One
is
in
my
map
from
the
other
maps
that
I
did
is
do
before.
N
Will
you
get
the
wash
I'm
the
sorry
district
for
not
do
before,
where
you
have
the
talk
with
Creek
flowing
from
the
source
through
down
through
the
wash
into
until
it
reaches
where
talk
with
creeks
joins
the
palm
in
wash
that's
one
of
the
differences
that
we
I
thought
there
should
be
put
for
her
to
discuss.
There
also
is
a
shift
in
the
El
Mirador
neighborhood
that
does
get
divided
and
moving
to
deters
map
in
order
to
balance
the
total
population
between
the
maps.
N
If
you
feel
that
you
would
like
that
considered
by
the
public,
you
can
pull
the
do
be
met
five
map
forward
for
consideration.
That
is
a
true
difference.
Since
I
submitted
the
map
and
my
intent
in
that
map,
I
felt
the
deters
map
was
closer
to
my
intended
as
well.
So
I
was
very
happy.
We
worked
on
the
map
together.
This
was
the
last
session
that
we
had
up
in
at
Highland
desert
that
the
James
O
Jessie
Center,
specifically
to
work
with
the
mapping
tool
with
the
voices
in
that
neighborhood.
So.
D
Yeah
again,
I
I
know
we
want
to
avoid
getting
into
the
weeds
on
those
minor
tweaks.
I
know
we'll
do
that
later.
I
had
one
more
question.
Oh
well
and
again:
I
just
want
to
state
that
the
reason
I
prefer
do
b5
and
Crawford
one
over
Smoketree.
His
smoke
tree
creates
a
mega
wealth
district
and
a
major
commercial
district
unto
itself
and
I
really
like
that.
Do
b5
in
Crawford
one
divided
downtown
and
they
divide
our
wealthiest
communities
into
other
districts
and
I.
D
Think
that
is
a
better
balance
than
thin
smoke
tree
so
I'm
sure
I'll
have
more
questions.
I'm
learning
a
lot.
As
my
colleagues
ask
questions
and
again
you
know
I
know
we
can't
compliment
you
all
enough,
but
it's
because
you
deserve
it.
You
did
all
the
hard
work
for
us
when
I,
you
know
as
a
as
console
them
and
holstege
said
you
know
it's
it's
it's
difficult
to
understand
these
maps
at
this
size,
but
the
amount
of
work
that
you
put
into
this
is
just
staggering
and
I
I.
D
A
E
One
of
the
promises
that
we've
made
to
1ps
is
that
the
city
clerk
and
I
on
any
neighborhood,
that's
divided
on
any
map,
we'll
sit
down
specifically
with
the
people
in
that
neighborhood
and
talk
through
a
lot
of
these
are
going
to
be
relatively
easy
to
fix.
Others
may
be
a
little
more
difficult,
I,
don't
want
to
say
that
we
can
get
to
45
neighborhoods
that
are
100
percent
unified,
but
I've
looked
at
these
maps.
D
So
interesting
and
that
you
said
that,
but
the
the
Dubey
maps
are
obviously
maps
that
you
submitted
right.
So
when
you're
tweaking
you're
tweaking
your
own
maps,
okay,
that's
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
there
that's
correct
that
you
all
got
the
same
opportunity
in
your
own
map.
Creation,
as
is
the
rest
of
the
community,
did
okay,
terrific
customer.
A
Q
Thank
You
mayor
and
you
know,
I
tend
to
agree
with
Mayor
Pro
Tem
Roberts
on
do
you
know,
Crawford's
map
which,
just
you
know,
does
get
more
people
touching
on
downtown
I
think
we
definitely
want
some
maps
that
do
that
in
the
process.
So
we
really
get
to
hear
from
our
business
community
when
they
can
really
see
what
it
means.
The
other
map,
which
is
another
one
they
recommended,
which
does
that
very
well
and
gives
it
actually
bigger
chunks
of
downtown
I,
think
is
the
pro
mat,
which
also
equally
has
three
districts
downtown
and
impacts.
Q
The
least
number
of
neighborhoods
of
the
maps
that
are
recommended
and
some
of
the
neighborhoods
that
are
the
easiest
fixes.
So
I
agree
with
that
recommendation
moving
forward,
but
I
just
wanted
for
the
rest
of
Council
because
count
some
of
our
middleton
I've
set
more
time
on
this
I.
Think
mr.
Pell's
map
really
does
a
good
job
of
of
that
and
giving
three
people
parts
of
downtown.
It
looks
you
know
it
just.
Q
Q
You
know
and
sorry
it
doesn't
put
movie
a
lot
of
them
put
movie
colony
and
less
hominis
and
little
Tuscany
together.
This
splits
that
up
a
little
bit
and
there's
good
and
bad
with
both
so
I
think
having
that
go
forward
and
for
discussion
is
what's
important.
So
you
know
I
think
the
format,
the
combined
value,
four
or
five
maps
you
put
forward
all
seem
to
give
a
good
variety
of
options
instead
of
putting
two
that
are
almost
identical
and
so
I
appreciate,
I
appreciate
that
thought.
It.
A
Sort
of
sounds,
like
we've
I
know
the
ones
I
picked
out,
six
that
I
thought
looked
the
best
enough
so
far,
the
six
two
or
ones
that
some
committee
recommended
and
two
others
or
ones
that
people
the
council
members
have
mentioned
so
I
think
we
may
be
fairly
close
to
consensus
on
a
top
five.
Should
we
see.
Q
P
A
So
the
those
five
I
sort
of
I
didn't
get
as
far
down
into
the
very
demographic
details
as
II
did,
but
I
think
if
we
could
all
sort
of
come
to
consensus
of
five
and
once
we
get
to
those
five,
we
can
then
come
back
and
we
can
really
dig
into
those
and
do
what
customer
Hulsey
said
and
look
at
them
on
top
of
each
other.
We
can
do
like
what
customer
Middleton
said
and
we
could
look
at
the
neighborhood
the
norms
and
tweak
those,
and
we
can
take
five
and
really
work
on
them.
A
P
So
so
just
to
go
over
mine
and
I
also
liked
a
lot
of
them
and
and
a
lot
of
them
were
similar.
I
also
had
pulled.
The
Crawford
map
and
I
had
also
pulled
the
or
preferred
the
prowl
mat
and
I
think
it's.
This
is
really
helpful
because
thank
you
to
our
demographer
for
doing
the
work
and
having
those
maps,
and
then
we
have
people
like
dieter,
Crawford
who've.
P
You
know,
families
you've
lived
here
for
decades
and
decades,
your
family
and
really
drilling
down
on
those
specific
neighborhoods,
which
is
just
really
really
helpful,
and
thank
you
to
our
residents,
who
worked
on
submitting
maps.
I
didn't
submit
a
map.
We
have
to
decide
the
map,
so
I
really
appreciate
it's
a
lot
of
work
to
make
these
maps
and
do
that
and
that's
a
big
commitment
I'm.
So
thank
you
for
doing
that
because
it
really
helps
us.
P
We
want
your
expertise,
so
I
had
also
pulled
Crawford
and
prowl
I
had
Flags
Smoketree
as
a
discussion
item,
and
if
we
want
to
include
that
in
our
choice
right
now,
I
agree.
I
don't
like
to
see.
One
district
represent
nearly
all
of
downtown
and
to
create
like
a
super
district
where
it
might
have
a
lot
of
influence
and
thinking
about
the
influence
that
council
members
could
wield
in
their
districts.
P
I
I
have
concerns
about
that,
but
I
noticed
that
a
lot
of
of
the
maps
had
designed
themselves
around
smoke
tree,
and
maybe
it's
that
Crawford
or
one
of
the
other
ones,
is
similar
enough-
that
we
don't
need
smoke
tree
in
the
list,
make
sure
I
get
each
one.
I
found
a
lot
of
the
Dube
doobie
ones.
Interesting
I
think
I
would
also
pull
doobie.
P
It
doesn't
have
the
it
has:
all
of
the
districts
are
running
east
to
west,
so
that's
page
28
for
Pete
those
following
along,
so
the
district
1,
which
is
the
most
northern
part
of
the
city,
that's
on
111,
but
that's
not
really
the
business
district.
Yet
there
are
a
lot
of
other
businesses
in
that
area,
so
it
does
touch
industry
there,
but
I
think
it
does.
P
The
best,
in
my
opinion,
of
making
sure
each
district
is,
is
touching
the
business
corridor
out
of
all
the
other
maps
and
I
looked
at
that
carefully,
especially
and
I'm,
not
considering
where
I
live
in
any
way
in
this
process,
but
just
thinking
about
I
live
in
Sonora,
sunrise
and
thinking
about
if
a
district
gets
landlocked
away
from
any
businesses
or
any
business
corridors.
I
think
that's
a
problem
for
that
district
and
the
ability
to
serve
and
to
run
so
I
want
to
think
about
that.
A
If
I
could
comment
I
had
to
what
customer
holstered
said,
one
in
five
also
touch.
You
know
the
core
that
can't
Palm
Canyon
and
those
are
there
is
where
we
see
a
lot
of
businesses
coming
in.
So,
if
we're
thinking
about
today
we're
looking
at
today,
but
if
we
look
over
the
next
five
to
ten
years,
I
think
we're
gonna
see
those
two
areas
growing
from
go
growing
extensively.
I.
P
E
E
I,
though,
share
the
concerns
that
my
colleagues
have
regarding
downtown
and
the
need
to
make
some
adjustments
there
and
as
I've
looked
at
that
map,
I
think
we
can
do
some
things
with
a
couple
of
neighborhoods
around
downtown.
That
would
make
that
a
potentially
a
very
viable
map
and
so
much
of
what
we've
smoked
a
realized,
but
as
a
finalist.
E
The
agave
map
is
a
very
interesting
map
and
does
a
lot
of
good
things
and,
like
all
of
you,
I
was
very
impressed
with
the
prowl
and
the
Crawford
maps
and
II
do
be,
did
an
unbelievable
amount
of
work
and
when
I
see
the
Crawford
map
I'm,
seeing
both
the
handiwork
of
mr.
Crawford
and
the
handiwork
of
mr.
Dubey.
And
it's
it's
a
pretty
neat
combination.
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Q
D
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Q
Q
Quick
thing:
Thank
You
mr.
mayor,
if
you're
part
of
an
organization
and
anyone
who's
listening
to
this-
and
we
should
put
it
out
on
the
website
and
press
releases
who
wants
people
to
bring
the
map,
so
you
can
look
at
them.
I
know:
councilman,
Milton
I
are
meeting
with
the
hospitality
Association.
There
are
a
number
of
you
know,
organizations
we
will
find
someone
to
come
present,
whether
from
the
working
group
or
staff
or
the
council
too,
just
to
get
your
input.
So
please
reach
out
to
anyone
on
council
or
the
city
clerk.
E
B
November
2015,
it's
gonna
be
critically
important
that
you
all
make
a
determination
on
one
or
two
final
maps
and
then
make
any
major
modifications
that
you're
going
to
make
those
maps
will
then
be
public
before
the
next
meeting,
and
in
which
case
you
could
make
smaller
modifications
fine-tuning
on
November
29th.
But
the
reason
we
need
those
to
be
small
is
because
we
have
a
very
quick
turnaround
time,
which
is
December
5th
in
which
you
need
to
adopt
that
map,
and
we
need
to
make
that
the
final
map
available
to
the
public
for
five
days.