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A
E
D
Mayor
coors,
here
all
council
members
are
present.
F
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
members
of
council.
Our
emergency
management
coordinator,
danny
deselms,
is
here
and
he's
going
to
present
some
updated
numbers,
so
we
can
let
the
community
know
where,
where
we
currently
stand.
Thank
you
danny.
G
Mayor
council,
there
we
go
so
I
want
to
preface
this
with.
Usually
we
do
a
weekly
update,
so
what's
on
the
bottom,
is
a
three-day
update?
So
it's
even
though
the
numbers
are
small
this
week,
those
are
are
poor,
it's
not
a
full
week.
That's
that's
all
it
is.
So
if
you
look
at
the
numbers,
we've
had
a
three
percent
increase
over
the
past
three
days,
all
right.
So
what
does
that
really
mean?
G
We've
had
you
know
26
new
cases
since
monday,
which
that
all
that
means
is
that
we're
looking
better
than
we
have
over
the
past
three
weeks,
significantly
better,
actually,
both
here
and
at
the
county.
When
we
get
to
that
as
an
example.
Last
week
we
had
eight
deaths
over
the
week
this
week,
we've
had
one
and
again
26
new
cases
since
monday,
so
we're
we're
improving
and
across
the
valley.
The
same
trend,
kind
of
holds.
True.
G
Everybody
in
the
valley
is
under
a
3
average
for
new
cases
this
week,
which
is
pretty
significant
over
the
past
couple
weeks.
We've
had,
you
know,
10
to
15
increases,
so
this
is
actually
looking
very
good
again.
I
want
to
say
this
is
a
three
day
average
and
not
a
full
week,
but
even
if
things
continue
to
trend
the
same
way
that
they
have
since
monday,
we're
looking
at
single
digit
increases
across
the
valley.
G
Again,
here's
the
county's
numbers,
so
one
thing
I
want
to
note
is
there's
been
increases
in
the
thousands
900
to
a
thousand
every
day
in
the
county.
For
many
weeks
today's
increase
was
in
the
300s,
so
the
trend
across
the
county
is
improvement.
Does
that
really
mean
anything?
Are
we
going
to
have
improvement
over
the
course
of
a
couple
days
and
then
another
spike?
A
I
have
one
so
given
that
the
state
was
so
behind
in
reporting
numbers
those
increases,
or
at
least
over
the
last
two
weeks
could
have
been
prior
cases,
and
now
they
seem
like
they're
caught
up.
Is
that
if
that's
true,
that
would
be
a
good
sign
that
things
are
actually
have
been
steadily
moving
down?
Do
you
have
any
sense
on
that.
G
G
However,
I
I
don't
know
how
we
would
be
able
to
pull
that
information
from
all
of
the
cases,
because,
when
you're
going
through
all
the
testing,
if
your
test
showed
up
a
week
ago-
and
my
test
showed
up
today
and
they
both
turned
positive
like
if
they
both
were
tested
on
the
same
day
by
the
hospital,
that's
the
day
that
you're
gonna
have
so
it'd,
be
really
hard
to
separate
that
information.
A
I
think
for
us,
since
we
don't
have
that
data,
but
I
assume
the
state
and
county
would
have
the
data
from
the
day
someone
was
tested
right.
They
know
the
day.
People
were
tested.
G
A
G
A
H
First,
mayor
pro
tem
hostage
and
council,
I'm
just
going
to
give
you
a
quick
update
on
where
we
are
in
our
census.
2020
activities
nationally,
we
are
at
64.1
percent
california,
65.9
riverside
county
63
palm
springs
is
at
51.9
we're
right
in
the
middle
of
the
pack.
We
actually
jumped
over
ranch
mirage
yesterday.
You
know
not
that
I'm
into
competitions
or
anything,
but
some
of
these
lower
numbers
can
be
attributed
to
the
covid19.
H
Let
me
just
give
you
a
little
idea
what
the
census
bureau
on
the
county
has
been
doing
the
most
important
thing.
Now
we
have
to
to
get
out
to
the
members
residents
of
the
community.
The
non-response
follow-up
began
on
august
11th
and
will
to
continue
until
the
close
of
the
census
period
on
september
30th.
So
those
that
haven't
taken
the
sentences
will
be
visited
by
a
census.
Bureau
field
representative.
H
Our
job
right
now
is
to
get
out
information
and
let
people
know
what
to
expect
who
these
people
are,
that
they
will
be
having
some
official
designation
when
they
come
to
your
door.
The
census
bureau
has
also
done
homeless,
count,
outreach,
extensive,
a
long-running
media
marketing
campaign,
outreach
to
partner
organizations,
booths
festivals
and
events
for
black
history
month,
village
fest
pride
festival-
and
this
has
all
been
in
the
works
for
the
since
april,
and
even
before
that,
just
an
update
on
what
we've
done
we've
done.
H
A
social
media
is
ongoing
on
all
the
city's
platforms.
We
had
a
social
media
blitz
during
our
census.
Action
week
in
july,
we've
distributed
census
information
to
fine
food
bank,
mobile
pantry
distribution
at
james
o
jesse,
so
we're
trying
to
cover
all
areas
of
the
city.
We've
had
run
spanish
language
spots.
H
I
think
one
of
our
most
popular
thing
we
did
was
the
caravan
outreach
days.
You
see
those
pictures
up
there,
mayor
pro
tem
and
council
member
garner
were
involved.
It
was
really
a
fun
ep
event.
We
went
out
to
the
veterans
track,
county
county
run,
golden
sands,
mobile
home
park
and
sunrise
village.
We
handed
out
about
200
bags,
swag
interacted
with
the
community,
got
to
make
some
friends
in
parts
of
the
city
that
we
don't
usually
visit.
H
H
The
library
is
handing
out
some
census
information
with
their
book,
pickup
orders,
census,
yard
signs
will
be
coming
to
us
soon,
we're
going
to
be
hopefully
placing
banners
at
the
library
in
downtown,
and
this
is
another
thing.
Additional
caravan
outreach
we're
hoping
to
have
a
couple
more
care
events
for
the
neighborhoods,
handing
out
census,
information
and
engaging
the
residents
so
right
now,
I
just
want
to
remind
everybody,
be
counted.
The
deadline
to
complete
the
census
is
now
september
30..
A
Great.
Thank
you
so
much
any
questions.
E
Okay,
I.
A
E
A
E
Of
people
watching
this
have
probably
already
filled
out
the
census
and
they
thank
you.
They
definitely
encourage
people
to
you
know,
chat
with
their
neighbors
and
remind
them
to
take
the
census
and
census
workers
are
going
out
and
knocking
on
doors
right
now,
so
please
be
kind
to
them.
They
are
doing
the
hard
work
of
checking
in
on
everyone,
and
I
know
they're
wearing,
masks
and
gloves
and
everything
so
just
you
know,
give
them
a
smile
and
be
kind
if
you
can
so.
Thank
you.
B
And
I
want
to
echo
council
member
garner's
comments
and
thank
her
and
mayor
pro
tim
holsteads
for
the
work
that
they
have
done
in
this
area.
But
I
do
have
a
question
for
denise.
B
Is
there
any
sense
that
in
the
coachella
valley,
some
of
the
low
reporting
numbers
are
due
to
individuals
who
have
multiple
homes
and
are
just
not
in
the
coachella
valley?
At
this
time,.
H
That
is
a
good
question,
I'll
check
with
our
census
rep.
Tomorrow
we're
going
to
be
getting
a
a
list
of
the
low
response
rates
in
the
city
and
we're
going
to
be
targeting
those
for
the
next
six
weeks,
but
I'll
find
out
about
that,
for
you
councilwoman
all
right.
Thank.
I
I
So
I
do
think
it's
a
big
concern
that
it's
been
cut
by
30
days
and
we
need
to
do
everything
we
can
to
get
the
word
out
that
the
deadline's
now
september
30th
and
we
are
doing
targeted
tracking
of
neighborhoods
and
and
just
different
precincts
where
people
you
know
should
be
completing
their
census
and
haven't
yet.
I
I
So
if
we
can
challenge
each
council,
member
to
participate
in
september
is
now
census
month
for
us
trying
to
get
the
word
out
as
much
as
possible
and
if
you
could
participate
in
various
ways,
including
having
caravans,
either
a
bike
caravan
or
an
alternative
vehicle
or
car
caravan.
Through
your
district
to
invite
people
to
participate,
it's
really
really
fun,
and
then
we
can
track
the
data
as
we
go
and
update
up
the
council
meeting
where
each
district
and
each
neighborhood
is
great.
A
Thank
you
always
good
to
have
a
challenge.
Anyone
else
game
on
and
thank
you
mayor
pro
tem
and
councilman
garner
for
your
work
and
denise.
Thank
you
and
amy.
So
much
for
all
of
your
work
as
well.
A
This
is
critically
important
and
the
more
we
can
do
to
get
people
to
fill
out
the
census,
the
better.
A
So
that
completes
our
presentations
and
the
next
item
is
public.
Testimony.
This
time
it's
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
city
council
on
agenda
items.
Only
two
minutes
will
be
assigned
to
each
speaker.
You're
asked
to
please
begin
your
time
by
telling
us
which
agenda
item
or
items
you're
speaking
about
tonight.
The
city
clerk
will
be
contacting
speakers
via
telephone
city
clerk.
If
you
can,
please
start.
A
Okay,
given
that
we
will
close
public
comment,
two
items
under
new
business
tonight
next
is
item
number
one:
consideration
of
appointing
lisa
middleton
to
the
office
of
city
council,
district,
five
and
canceling,
the
general
municipal
election
of
november.
Third,
twenty
twenty
for
district
five
staff
reports.
Please.
D
Honorable
mayor
and
city
council
on
november
3rd
2020,
a
general
municipal
election
will
be
held
in
the
city
of
palm
springs
for
the
purpose
of
electing
council
members
for
districts.
Four
and
five
after
the
close
of
nominations.
Lisa
middleton
was
the
only
resident
to
be
officially
nominated
from
district
5.
under
california
elections
code,
section
10229,
if
only
one
person
is
nominated
to
be
elected
from
a
particular
district.
The
city
council
may
take
one
of
two
actions:
appoint
the
person
who
has
been
nominated
and
cancel
the
election
or
two
proceed
with
the
conducting
the
election.
D
If
the
election
is
not
cancelled,
the
city
clerk's
office
will
accept
brighton
candidates
during
the
period
of
september
7th
through
october
20th.
Additionally,
the
city
clerk's
office
received
an
updated
cost
estimate
for
the
from
the
county,
a
registrar
of
voters,
estimating
the
district
5
election
to
cost
approximately
22
thousand
dollars
for
one
candidate.
D
B
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
thank
you
to
the
city
clerk.
I
just
I
have
checked
and
I
do
not
have
to
recuse
myself
from
this
vote,
but
I
will
be
recusing
myself
from
the
vote.
I
have
absolute
respect
for
all
of
my
colleagues
moving
forward,
regardless
of
the
decision
that
you
make
on
this.
B
Regardless
of
what
decision
is
made,
I
and
my
campaign
team
will
be
out
meeting
with
voters
in
the
fifth
district
over
the
course
of
the
next
10
weeks
to
engage
with
with
the
voters
and
hear
their
concerns
and
to
move
forward.
So
thank
you.
E
I
think
it's
really
important
for
our
democracy
and
because
we've
just
moved
to
district
elections
for
the
first
time
in
these
last
two
elections
for
us
to
move
forward
with
the
election.
For
me,
it's
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
candidate.
It
has
everything
to
do
with
the
fact
that
it's
important
for
people
to
know
what's
going
on
in
our
city
and
have
a
better
understanding.
E
So
I
think
it's
just
really
important
that
we
that
we
move
forward
so
that
people
can
continue
to
do
that,
outreach
and
understand
what's
going
on
and
for
some
people
when
they
see
the
ballot
and
see
then
see
that
it
says
district
five
might
be
the
first
time
that
they
truly
realize
what's
going
on,
so
they
just
think
it's
really
important
for
for
us
as
a
city
to
do
that.
A
The
other
comment,
let
me
ask
city
manager,
do
you
have
any
thoughts
on
this.
F
Thank
you,
mr
mary
members
of
council.
You
know
certainly
from
a
business
perspective.
You
know
it's
always
better
to
save
the
dollars
unnecessarily,
that
don't
you
don't
have
to
spend.
However,
this
is
obviously
a
political
question
and
so
obviously
we'll
take
council's
guidance
on
that.
I
I'll
just
ask
a
follow-up
question
to
staff,
so
you
know
we
did
recently
moved
to
districts.
This
would
be
the
first
district
election
in
district
five.
Are
there
considerations
and
terms?
I
know
ndo.
Is
there
it's
not
districted
council
members,
but
in
wildamar
it
is
so.
Is
there
a
sense
from
staff
about
a
recommendation
about
upholding
and
informing
the
population
and
our
residents
and
voters
about
our
district.
F
Yeah,
so
so
the
and
again
the
the
the
political
question
remains,
as
you
know,
on
from
a
democracy,
a
political
value
standpoint
going
forward
with
election
to
have
a
write-in
candidate
potential
that
always
makes
sense.
It's
the
first
district.
That
was
the
argument,
the
city
clerk
made.
That
was
the
first
time
in
this
district.
There
would
be
voting,
it
would
make
sense.
You
know
those
are
good
arguments.
F
At
the
same
time,
the
state
allows
for
you
not
to
have
the
election,
whether
it
is
uncontested,
where
municipalities
can
actually
save
those
tax
dollars.
So
in
this
case
you
know
from
again
from
a
business
perspective.
It
would
make
sense
to
do
that.
But
again,
this
is
more
of
a
political
question
based
on
these
competing.
I
Okay
and
then
have
we
had
received
public
comments
from
people
who
live
in
district
5,
who
told
us
sort
of
their
preference
there.
I
saw
the
public
comment
that
we
received.
We
didn't
get
any
call
in,
but
did
we
do
any
outreach
to
district
five
voters
about
what
they
might
prefer
here?.
D
There
was
no
additional
outreach
other
than
the
normal
posting
of
the
agenda
and,
in
addition,
the
statement
of
facts
regarding
the
situation
was
published
in
the
desert
sun,
but
there
was
no
additional
outreach
to
that
particular
district.
I
A
I'll
share
share,
and
you
know
I'm
fine.
Whichever
way
we
go
and
I
think
councilmember
garner
made
some
good
points,
I
think
I
came
into
this
leaning
that
we
don't
do
it
the
school
district,
the
college
district
desert
water
agency-
all
don't
do
it,
the
other
cities
haven't
done
it
and
given
we're
in
a
fiscal
emergency,
I
sort
of
came
in
leaning.
That
way.
A
I
also
understand
the
point
councilmember
garner
made,
which
is
a
good
one,
that
this
will
be
the
first
time
that
people
in
district
five
will
be
voting,
even
though
they
will
have
one
candidate
on
the
ballot.
A
So
you
know,
I
think
it's
important
really
to
be
conscious
of
taxpayer
dollars,
but
I
think
either
decision
is
a
fine
one,
because
there's
there
are
good
arguments
on
both
sides,
and
I
appreciate
councilman
garner's
comments
on
the
reasons
to
go
forward,
so
I
just
wanted
to
share
sort
of
where
I
was
coming
from
prior
to
the
meeting.
Although
now
I'm
thinking
about
it,
so
someone
else
can
weigh
in
councilman
garner.
E
Just
one
more
thing
on
that
to
our
city
clerk,
I
I
saw
in
the
staff
report
that
you
said
that
the
county
tends
to
overestimate
by
quite
a
bit.
So
this
is
the
22
000.
Is
the
newest
estimate
from
the
county
right?
So
do
you
think,
based
on
your
experience
that
this
will
be
a
lot
lower.
D
The
twenty
two
thousand
dollar
estimate
was
received
yesterday
afternoon,
so
it
is
a
fresh
estimate.
I
don't
wouldn't
expect
it
to
be
much
lower
than
twenty
two
thousand
dollars,
because
there
are
certain
hard
costs,
such
as
the
the
cost
of
postage
for
the
vote
by
mail
ballots.
C
C
I
think
the
council,
member
middleton
that's
running,
is
well
known
in
her
district
and
she's,
just
well
known
even
on
the
state
and
federal
level,
and
I
just
I'm
wondering
if,
if
the
money
could
be
better
used
in
outreach
in
a
different
format,
if
outreach
is
what
we're
trying
to
achieve,
but
I'm
happy
to
go
whatever
way.
The
majority
goes
with
great.
I
That's
a
good
question:
I
was
going
to
ask
it
of
staff,
so
the
cost
to
the
election
is
that
something
that
was
budgeted
in
the
last
budget
that
we
approved
for
this
fiscal
year
and
then,
if
we
canceled
the
election,
where
would
that
money
go?
And
then
what
are
the
other
uses
that
we
could
spend
that.
F
F
One
of
several
things
would
occur
that
money
would
remain
in
the
clerk's
budget
and
it
would
be
used
as
you
move
through
the
year
for
other
things
or
in
the
end,
put
back
into
the
general
fund
as
a
carryover.
That's
number
one
number
two
city
council
could
direct
those
funds
to
be
used
for
any
other
purpose.
You
would
desire
whether
it's
a
a
mailing
to
that
district
with
information
or
any
other
use.
If
you
want
to
use
it
for,
for
example,
a
park
project
or
or
something
of
that
nature.
A
Was
a
I
appreciate
that
common
question
and
to
sort
of
to
that
point
you
know
thinking
about
it.
You
know
half
of
our
residents
a
little
more
than
half
are
not
registered
voters,
so
the
you
know
even,
but
we
represent
everyone,
and
so
the
idea
of
utilizing
that
money
to
if
we
do
that
to
do
outreach
to
all
residents
about
that
we're
in
a
district
with
the
way
to
contact.
A
You
know
the
city
on
your
representative
and
we
should
probably
have
district
emails
as
well
as
emails
with
our
names,
so
those
get
forwarded
to
whoever
the
person
in
the
office
is
that's
one
way
to
do
more
outreach
about
districts
and
utilize
that
money
in
a
different
way.
That
would
make
sense
if
we
go
that
route.
A
Yeah
I
mean
if
we
go
that
route,
I
think
city-wide.
So
you
know
all
residents
all
residents
and
businesses
in
the
district
sort
of
are
reminded
that
their
districts
and
have
an
email
district,
one
rep.
You
know
at
palm
street
ca.gov
kind
of
thing,
not
that
we
couldn't
do
both
I'm
just
that
might
be
something
we're
thinking
about.
Given
that
council
member
was
brought
up
that
I
liked.
E
E
But
I
also
think
that
there's
something
really
powerful
about
people
being
able
to
actually
cast
a
vote,
even
if
there
is
only
one
person
and
I
think
the
fact
that
people
there
could
be
somebody
that
wants
to
do
a
write-in.
And
this
isn't
I'm
not
necessarily
and
again
like
I'm.
E
I
I'm
saying
this
to
the
point
that
oftentimes
our
because
our
system
isn't
perfect
people,
don't
kind
of
realize
it
until
it's
right
there
in
their
face,
and
I
think
that
one
thing
that
is
awful
is
that
the
county
water
boards
and
the
school
board
and
everything
just
automatically
cancel
their
elections,
because
one
thing
that
we've
seen
with
our
school
board
is
that
it's
been
cancelled
several
times,
because
there's
only
one
candidate
and
then
people
forget
that
they
even
get
to
vote
for
their
account
for
their
school
board.
E
Member
people
don't
even
realize
how
the
process
works.
Because
of
that,
and
so
for
me,
it's
kind
of
a
way
to
set
a
precedent
as
well
that
we
hold
elections
and
that
we
care
about
having
elections
in
our
community.
And
you
know:
if
someone
wanted
to
write
in
in
their
name,
then
they
write
in
their
name
and
then
they
they.
E
They
realize
that
okay
next
next
time,
I
really
actually
have
to
do
something
now
that
I
get
it
now
that
I
understand
that
there
was
no
one
else
that
that
challenged
and-
and
it
could
have
been
me
because
I
think
that
that's
something
that
happens
sometimes
people
people,
don't
realize
it
until
it's
right
there
in
front
of
them
like
that,
and
I
just
don't
think
we'll
get
the
same
kind
of
outreach
if
there's
not
a
name
on
the
ballot.
A
D
D
Okay,
so
beginning
september,
7th
through
october,
20th
is
the
writing
candidate
period.
So
what
would
occur
is
a
candidate
would
file
a
statement
of
interest
in
being
a
writing
candidate
with
the
city
clerk's
office.
They
would
receive
the
same
nomination
papers
as
the
other
candidates
received
for
district
four
and
as
lisa
middleton
received
for
district
five,
they
would
need
to
obtain
80
to
120
signatures
to
qualify
as
a
writing
candidate.
D
They
would
need
to
file
all
of
the
other
same
disclosure
documents,
such
as
a
statement
of
economic
interest,
so
they
go
through
the
same
process
as
a
normal
candidate
would
go
through.
The
only
difference
is
they
will
be
a
writing
candidate,
so
the
voters
in
the
community
will
need
to
know
the
candidate's
name
and
write
it
in
on
the
ballot
and
those
will
be
tabulated
and
canvassed
and
presented
during
the
normal
process.
A
A
I
I'll
second,
the
motion-
and
I
was
gonna
comment.
You
know
this
is
hard
because
we
haven't
heard
from
district
five
residents,
and
so
I
did
see
you
know
what
was
submitted,
but
it
was
very
little
in
public
comments
that
we
received.
I
They
think
that
they
don't
get
to
vote
for
council
member
anymore
that
they
actually
someone
in
district
five
was
commenting
that
they
don't
think
that
they
get
to
vote
in
district
five,
and
I
commented
there
that
actually
we're
deciding
that
issue
tonight,
so
I
do
think
some
pocket
there's
no
price
for
democracy,
it's
incredibly
important
and
sacred
the
right
to
vote,
and
I
do
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
value
in
going
forward
with
an
election
in
part
just
to
uphold
the
transparency
of
our
elections
process.
I
I
we
all
know
that
there
are
cities
in
the
coachella
valley
where
people
have
been
appointed
and
they
keep
getting
appointed
and
there
are
elections
held,
and
you
know
that's
not
how
palm
springs
operates.
We
always
err
on
the
side
of
more
transparency.
More
democracy,
you
know
more
public
input,
and
so
you
know
had
we
heard
that
that
from
by
and
large
from
the
community
they
want
to
cancel
the
election.
A
You
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second.
I
just
add
that
I
think
I
fall
on
the
side
of
moving
forward.
You
know
the
state
got
rid
of
write
in
candidates
in
the
general
election.
We
haven't,
and
I
think
that
alone,
given
people
do
have
the
right
to
run
even
if
they
don't
make.
A
The
initial
deadline
seems
to
be
probably
just
a
step
too
far,
even
though
I'm
concerned
about
spending
money,
given
our
fiscal
situation
on
an
election,
but
I
think
that-
and
some
of
the
other
reasons
mentioned
probably
way
slightly
towards
moving
forward,
because
it
is
an
option
that
has
been
on
the
table
that
people
have.
No,
you
know,
I
don't
know
that
many
people
know
about
it,
but
someone
could
have
known
about
it
and
decided
they
were
going
to
wait
and
decide
later,
and
it
seems
wrong
to
take
that
away.
Ultimately,.
I
D
A
Thank
you,
and
thanks
for
the,
I
think,
intelligent
thoughtful
conversation
from
everyone.
So
thank
you.
Next
item
is
item
two
discussion
on
expansion,
outdoor
dining
on
palm
canyon,
drive
and
other
public
streets
to
facilitate
economic
recovery
in
response
to
local
emergency
related
to
the
coronavirus
staff
report.
Please.
J
Mr
mayor
and
members
of
council,
our
discussion
this
evening
is
relative
to
the
expansion
of
outdoor
dining
and,
specifically
looking
at
a
couple
of
areas
within
the
city
of
palm
springs
for
use
of
public
rights
of
way.
By
way
of
background,
this
item
was
discussed
briefly
at
the
city
council
meeting
on
august,
the
6th
at
the
direction
of
council.
We
hosted
a
video
conference
with
business
and
community
stakeholders
on
august,
the
11th
to
discuss
the
possible
options
and
then
main
street
hosted
a
follow-up
meeting
just
on
tuesday.
J
J
J
J
There
was
a
question
that
was
posed
to
the
retailers
and
the
commercial
businesses
if
they
would
be
interested
in
also
occupying
expanded
outdoor
areas.
38
percent
said
that
they
would
not
be
interested
in
expanding
to
outdoor
areas.
21.9
percent
at
their
discretion
may
want
to
do
it.
Another
10.9
percent
said
on
designated
times
or
days.
They
may
be
interested
in
expanding
outdoors
and
only
4.3
percent
said
they
would
like
to
be
outdoors
all
the
time.
J
We
posed
the
question
as
follows:
until
the
end
of
the
year
so
through
december
5.4
through
the
end
of
season,
which
would
be
april
of
2021,
24
would
like
to
extend
to
that
point
for
a
period
of
one
year,
which
is
what
some
other
cities
are
doing:
13.2
percent
and
others
17.4
percent,
and
then
the
final
question
to
review
with
you
this
evening.
How
soon
would
you
like
this
to
begin
43
as
soon
as
possible,
17.9
percent
in
september
13
in
october,
and
then
you
see
the
other
responses
there.
J
We
sent
a
copy
of
the
entire
survey
to
the
city
council
earlier
today,
I
believe,
or
last
night
I'd
like
to
call
your
attention.
There
were
a
lot
of
written
comments
relative
to
the
survey
that
helped
to
explain
some
of
the
justifications
for
why
the
respondents
answered
the
questions
the
way
they
did.
So
I
just
wanted
you
to
be
aware
of
that
as
well.
J
In
our
staff
report,
staff
had
recommended
the
partial
closure
of
palm
canyon
drive
between
chocolates
and
barista
as
our
preferred
alternative.
There
are
a
number
of
reasons
for
that.
We
reviewed
this
with
our
special
events
team
in
discussing
the
issue
with
them,
they
felt
because
of
the
issues
of
public
safety
and
also
the
demands
that
would
result
from
additional
staff
time
to
assist
with
this
closure
and
cleaning
and
maintenance.
J
Their
preference
would
be
to
do
a
partial
closure
again,
as
you
see
from
the
survey
results,
our
recommendation
differs
somewhat
from
those
of
the
business
owners
who
responded
to
the
survey
in
terms
of
the
partial
closure.
What
it
would
mean
is
that
we
would
narrow
palm
canyon
from
three
traffic
lanes
down
to
two
traffic
lanes
and
then
use
the
concrete
barriers
or
k
rails,
as
they
are
known
to
provide
a
barrier
between
the
traffic
lanes
and
dining.
J
J
One
of
the
things
that
we
were
asked
to
look
at
by
the
business
owners
was
the
location
for
rideshare
and
deliveries,
and
so
engineering
staff.
Don,
u
know
and
joel
montalvo,
have
both
looked
at
those
issues
and
identified
potential
locations
where
we
could
have
rideshare
and
delivery.
Those
participating
in
food
delivery
services
on
each
block
being
able
to
park
and
and
service
those
businesses.
J
Obviously,
with
these
partial
and
full
closures,
there's
going
to
be
impacts
to
traffic
circulation,
and
so
it
will
require
that
we
have
additional
signage
out
relative
to
how
people
circulate
through
the
downtown
area.
With
these
closures,
also,
bus
stops
would
be
closed
within
those
blocks
where
the
closures
would
occur.
J
We've
also
looked
at
issues
such
as
deliveries
to
the
stores
and
trash
collection
in
terms
of
the
cost
associated
with
the
partial
closure.
We've
done
some
additional
work.
That
is,
in
addition
to
the
numbers
that
you
see
in
the
staff
report
for
the
partial
closure
in
terms
of
the
rental
of
the
concrete
barriers,
the
delivery
and
setup
the
re-striping
of
the
street
in
those
areas
that
would
be
required.
J
You
can
see
the
numbers
there
so
for
four
months,
which
is
through
the
end
of
the
year,
approximately
forty
seven
thousand
dollars
for
eight
months,
which
takes
us
through
the
end
of
april
2021
or
the
end
of
season.
That
would
be
59,
000
total
cost
for
one
year.
If
we
were
to
extend
it
for
that
entire
period
would
be
71
000.
J
J
However,
it's
important
to
understand
that
we
don't
have
the
equipment
to
move
those
or
a
place
to
store
them
so
again,
there's
pluses
and
minuses
for
us
purchasing
the
equipment
versus
renting
the
equipment
and
the
cost
relative
to
that
option.
Two
that
we
discuss
in
the
staff
report
is
the
full
closure
of
palm
canyon,
drive
between
chocolates
canyon
way
and
barista
road
based
on
the
survey.
This
seemed
to
be
the
most
popular
of
the
two
options
from
the
business
owners
in
terms
of
the
closure.
It
would
operate.
J
Much
like
you
see,
village
fest
in
that
businesses
would
be
able
to
utilize
a
portion
of
the
street.
However,
we
would
need
to
keep
the
center
24
feet
open
and
clear
for
emergency
access,
so
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
put
tables
chairs
or
any
other
things
in
that
center
24
foot
zone,
but
could
use
the
space
immediately
adjacent
to
the
curbs.
J
With
the
full
closure,
as
we
propose
in
the
staff
report
again,
talk
with
canyon
way
on
the
north
would
be
the
northern
boundary
and
barista
road
would
be
the
southern
boundary.
We
would
keep
uranus
road
open
for
east
west
traffic,
and
then
the
signal
at
la
plaza
would
only
permit
the
u-turn
movements
there.
J
We
would
have
the
option
of
either
using
the
concrete
barriers
to
block
up
the
street
or
contracting
with
a
company
for
temporary
barriers
and
I'll
talk
about
those
two
options.
In
just
a
moment.
We
also
looked
at
places
for
the
ride,
share
food
delivery,
etc
and
where
those
might
occur,
with
the
full
closure
again
issues
for
consideration.
J
One
of
the
things
with
the
full
closure
that
is
a
benefit
is
that
there
are
less
opportunities
for
jaywalking
issues,
and
so
we
might
see
greater
pedestrian
safety
here
in
this
particular
issue.
But
you
also
have
the
issues
with
eliminating
the
on-street
parking
and
we
feel
that
there
would
be
greater
congestion
with
the
full
closure
than
with
the
partial
closure
in
terms
of
the
cost.
J
We
looked
at
two
different
options
because
we
did
have
some
interest
from
the
business
owners
on
only
doing
a
closure
from
thursday
to
sunday
we
did
an
estimate
of
those
costs,
and
then
we
also
did
an
estimate
of
the
cost
for
doing
a
closure.
24
7.
with
the
thursday
to
sunday
operation.
There
would
be
additional
cost
to
us.
So
there's
the
equipment,
rental
of
the
barriers.
J
So
our
total
cost
for
four
months
for
those
operations
would
be
72
000
through
the
end
of
season
april,
2021
would
be
145
000
and
the
total
cost
for
one
year
would
be
217
000..
So
those
are
some
significant
costs,
especially
when
you
compare
it
with
keeping
barriers
in
place,
24
7
for
that
full
closure.
J
This
would
be
much
less
because
again,
we're
not
coming
in
every
week
to
set
up
the
barriers
and
take
them
down.
They
would
remain
in
place
for
the
period
that
you
select
to
do
the
closure,
so
our
cost
for
four
months
would
be
twenty
six
thousand
for
eight
months,
thirty
thousand
and
then
for
one
year.
Thirty,
three
thousand
we've
also
done
some
calculations
if
we
purchase
the
concrete
barriers
or
k
rails
versus
renting
them
and,
as
I
had
mentioned
previously,
there's
an
additional
fee
for
repainting
the
k
rails.
If
the
merchants
intend
to
paint
those.
J
J
J
As
we've
been
doing
for
the
last
number
of
months,
you
can
still
do
dining
on
the
sidewalk
areas.
We
will
continue
to
issue
temporary
land
use
permits
for
the
public
sidewalk
areas.
We
can
also
look
at
doing
outdoor
dining
in
parking
lot
areas.
That's
a
question
that
has
come
up
a
number
of
times
and
we're
more
than
happy
to
pursue
that
under
a
temporary
land
use
permit
as
well.
J
Businesses
could
also
use
the
concrete
barriers
or
k
rails
in
the
parking
spaces
that
are
immediately
adjacent
to
their
business.
So,
as
we've
talked
about
before,
the
city
would
go
ahead
and
rent
the
k
rails
have
them
placed,
and
the
business
owner
could
then
expand
outdoor
dining
into
the
on-street
parking
spaces.
As
you
see
in
this
middle
image
here
and
then,
of
course,
the
parklets,
this
is
an
idea
that
we
have
floated
out
before
is
actually
building.
J
In
most
cases,
a
wooden
structure
that
brings
the
outdoor
dining
space
up
to
the
level
of
the
curb
and
provides
a
protected
barrier
from
the
traffic
area
on
the
right
is
an
example
from
the
city
of
san
diego,
in
one
of
the
restaurants
in
the
north
park
district
there,
where
they
have
constructed
a
parklet,
and
so
those
options
are
still
available
to
restaurant
owners
throughout
the
city
and
not
just
within
the
areas
that
we're
talking
about
here.
So
again,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that's
clear.
J
The
reason
that
this
is
an
issue
is,
we
may
not
be
able
to
do
closures
as
far
north
as
the
uptown
district.
I
know
that
there
are
interest
from
the
restaurant
owners
up
there
about
a
potential
closure
in
that
area.
If
we're
not
able
to
do
it
again,
they
can
still
expand
into
the
on-street
parking
spaces.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
clear
that
those
options
are
still
available.
Regardless
of
the
decision
the
council
may
make
with
partial
or
full
closures.
J
There
are
a
number
of
other
considerations
where
we
will
need
direction
from
city
council
and
would
like
to
get
your
input.
One
of
those
is
a
closure
of
uranus
road.
We've
had
interest
from
the
merchants
there
I'll
go
into
that
in
a
minute
rules
for
expanding
in
front
of
other
businesses,
whether
retail,
businesses
and
other
commercial
businesses
should
be
allowed
to
expand
into
these
outdoor
areas
and
then
the
time
limit
that
we
would
have
these
expanded
areas,
starting
first
with
uranus
road.
J
We
have
had
some
concerns
from
merchants
that
blocking
off
the
parking
spaces
in
front
of
their
stores
would
limit
access
to
those
businesses.
So
just
be
aware
of
that,
however,
we
just
received
an
email
this
afternoon
with
the
merchants
on
uranus
road
requesting
to
do
a
closure
of
the
street
on
the
weekends,
while
keeping
the
street
open
during
the
weekdays,
but
closing
off
the
parking
spaces
for
expanded
dining,
and
so
there
is
an
interest
from
the
merchants
to
do
that,
and
we
can
discuss
that
with
the
merchants
at
that
point
in
time.
J
J
One
of
the
things
to
keep
in
mind
is
that
the
right
of
way
is
the
cities
and
not
that
of
individual
businesses.
They
can't
charge
rent
for
those
spaces,
so
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
clear.
However,
we
want
to
be
respectful
to
all
businesses
and
make
sure
that
they
are
not
unduly
impacted
by
this
expansion
of
use.
J
What
I
might
recommend
is
that
we
continue
to
work
with
the
main
street
organization
where
there's
interest
and
perhaps
work
towards
standards
if
the
retail
merchants
would
like
to
move
forward
with
that
and
then
finally,
in
looking
at
establishing
a
time
limit
for
the
expanded
outdoor
areas,
there's
a
number
of
things
that
we
need
to
take
into
consideration.
Number
one
is
that
the
temporary
catering
licenses
that
beverage
control
is
issuing
will
be
rescinded
when
the
emergency
orders
are
rescinded,
and
so
that's
the
indication
that
we've
had
from
abc
at
this
point
in
time.
J
Our
temporary
land
use
permits
that
we're
issuing
for
outdoor
dining
are
also
conditioned
to
expire
when
the
emergency
orders
are
rescinded.
This
is
a
much
simpler
matter
in
that
we,
as
the
city
can
simply
extend
those
land
use
permits.
Should
you
choose
to
do
so?
So
that's
a
much
easier
issue
to
deal
with
the
cares
act.
J
City
of
santa
monica
is
an
example
where
they've
extended
the
use
of
these
outdoor
areas
for
up
to
a
year,
because
retailers,
restaurants,
are
making
an
investment
in
those
outdoor
areas
in
terms
of
equipment
or
the
parklets
that
they
may
be
building,
and
so
as
a
way
to
amortize
that
cost
over
a
longer
period.
Some
cities
have
expanded
that
to
one
year.
J
Our
recommendation
to
you
would
be
to
expand
that
at
least
through
the
end
of
the
year
and
look
at
the
costs
and
the
issues
associated
with
extending
it
longer
than
that.
So
those
are
the
additional
considerations.
So
again,
this
has
been
a
lengthy
presentation.
You
have
a
lot
of
information
in
front
of
you.
There
are
six
primary
discussion
points
that
we
would
like
you
to
provide
direction
to
us
number.
J
One
is
relative
to
the
partial
closure,
or
full
closure
of
palm
canyon
drive
looking
at
where
we
might
extend
that
looking
at
how
we
might
proceed
with
uranus
road,
the
rules
for
expanding
in
front
of
other
commercial
dis
businesses,
the
expanded
outdoor
areas,
use
of
those
by
retail
businesses
and
then
the
time
limit
for
that.
So,
mr
mayor
council
members.
That
concludes
my
presentation
to
you
with
that.
We'll
be
happy
to
answer
questions
and
take
your
comments
relative
to
this
proposal.
E
Thank
you
so
much
flynn
for
for
that.
That
was
really
helpful.
I
have
just
a
few
questions.
The
first
question
I
was
wondering:
can
you
explain
to
us
what
will
happen
in
terms
of
the
buses,
because
I
know
that
the
bus
route
will
be
impacted
and
and
how
will
that
work
to
make
sure
that
people
still
can
use
it.
E
Thank
you
and
then
in
regards
to
the
time
limit.
E
So
I
I
mean
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
because
I
understand
that
there
seems
to
be
kind
of
a
little
bit
of
a
divide
on
on
what
people
want
to
do
here,
and
so
I'm
just
curious
how
easy
it
is
for
us
to
extend
our
rentals
of
the
k
rails
or
if
we
really
do
need
to
just
make
a
decision
for
an
entire
year.
J
In
terms
of
the
rental
of
the
concrete
barriers,
the
k
rails,
it's
relatively
easy
for
us
to
extend
the
rental
period
for
those,
so
I
don't
see
any
difficulty
in
doing
that.
It
becomes
an
issue
when
we
purchase
equipment.
Obviously
we
like
to
get
our
money's
worth
out
of
it,
so
we
would
like
to
do
it
for
a
longer
period
of
time,
but
in
terms
of
the
rentals,
it
is
an
easy
month-to-month
thing
for
us
to
continue
with
those
rentals.
E
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
you
mentioned
arenas
and
closing
off
the
entire
street
on
the
weekends.
Would
that
be
done
just
by
regular
in
the
same
way
as
for
halloween
or
pride,
or
would
it
also
be
k-rail.
I
Thank
you.
I
have
a
few
questions
too
flynn,
thanks
for
the
presentation
first
on
k-rails,
so
are
there
alternatives
to
k-rails?
I
heard
you
talk
about
the
barriers
with
water.
You
did
get
feedback
that
the
k-rails
were
ugly,
even
if
designed
and
might
not
match
our
brand
or
our
look
for
downtown
palm
springs.
So
are
there
all
other
alternatives
or
really
the
only
alternative
is
the
parklet.
J
I
would
say
really
the
only
other
alternative
is
the
parklet.
The
water
barriers
become
a
little
bit
more
problematic
in
terms
of
their
maintenance
and
keeping
them
in
place,
and
really
they
don't
aesthetically
look
any
better
than
the
k
rails.
To
be
quite
honest,
we
did
investigate
whether
the
k
rails
could
be
painted
and
the
vendor
that
we
checked
with
said.
Yes,
they
can.
I
J
That
has
a
number
of
different
designs
and
different
options,
but
it
isn't
quite
to
the
degree
of
safety
as
the
k
rails
with
palm
canyon,
carrying
the
amount
of
traffic
that
it
does.
If
we
do,
a
partial
closure
there's
still
a
concern
about
potentially
having
vehicles
interacting
with
the
on-street
dining,
and
so
the
k-rails
do
provide
a
safer
option
than
some
of
the
wooden
barriers
would.
I
Thank
you
and
then
can
you
just
tell
us
from
your
research
about
all
the
other
cities
and
I've
looked
at
this
too,
and
lots
of
people
have
been
sending
us
what
other
cities
are
doing,
but
if
the
majority
of
them
ended
up,
doing
parklets
or
ended
up
closing
their
main
street
or
sort
of?
What's
the
experience
of
other
cities
and
the
consensus,
and
also
have
there
been
any
safety
issues
in
other
cities
that
have
done
this
with
cars
and
pedestrians
and
diners,
and
all
that.
J
J
Other
communities
such
as
santa
monica
santa
monica,
have
closed
off
or
narrowed
lanes
and
kept
lanes
of
traffic
open
done,
the
k
rails
done
dining
in
the
street,
etc.
So
I
wouldn't
say
that
there's
any
one
particular
response
that
cities
have
used
they've
looked
at
quite
a
number
of
different
methods
of
doing
this.
I
think
it
depends
largely
on
the
particular
area,
the
clustering
of
restaurants
that
you
may
have
in
an
area
the
volume
of
traffic
that
the
street
carries
the
speed
of
that
traffic.
I
Thank
you
and
then
I
just
had
a
question
about
the
budget
or
the
financial
impact.
So
I
see
the
budget
listed
here
and
I
see
that
there's
a
possibility
of
reimbursement,
but
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
likelihood
of
reimbursement
for
all
of
these
costs.
J
Let's
see
I'm
going
to
need
some
assistance
from
our
financial
partners
on
this
in
terms
of
the
reimbursement
for
costs.
As
I
understand
it,
the
cares
funding
is
for
projects
that
are
carried
out
through
the
end
of
the
year
through
december
30th,
and
so
extending
our
rental
beyond
that
period
would
not
be
covered
by
the
cares
act,
funding
and
so
that's
something
that
we
as
the
city
would
have
to
cover
ourselves.
F
One
thing
I
would
I
would
add
add
to
that
is
technically
the
approximately
the
half
a
million
that
we
received
from
the
state
on
the
cares
we
could
use.
You
could
use
those
funds.
However,
if
you
recall,
council
did
appropriate
those
for
city
expenses
and
some
outside
charitable
organizations.
Now
now
that
being
said,
the
city
expenses
could
be
could
be
partially
used
towards
this.
But
again
that
would
be
some
council
direction
with
regard
to
the
dollars
that
were
getting
reimbursed
by
fema,
not
certain
that
this
would
this
would
qualify.
F
A
Can
I
just
jump
in
on
this
funding
point
for
a
minute
yeah
I
mean
we
did
appropriate
them.
So
if
we
just
move
it,
then
we're
just
using
general
fun
dollars.
So
we
should
you
know
it
doesn't
really
matter
which
pool
we're,
saying
it's
still
going
to
have
an
impact
and
obviously
there'll
be
a
beneficial
impact
in
sales,
tax
and
other
things
if
more
people
are
eating
out
and
going
to
retail,
but
I
thought
we
were
applying
for
a
grant
from
the
eda,
for
this
purpose
did
that
get.
F
Denied
no,
no,
as
we
looked
into
that
closely,
it
seems
that
that's
really
not
going
to
be
an
option
for
us
for
this,
for
this
particular
project
and
there's
several
reasons
for
that
and
we
can
go
into
deeper
detail.
J
veron,
our
economic
development
director
had
did
a
pretty
thorough
analysis
of
this
and
it
just
looked
like
that.
Wasn't
going
to
be
an
option
and
partly
because
they'd
already
because
of
the
state
cova
dollars
that
that
the
state
has
given
to
the
county
and
that
the
eda
has
given
to
the
county
for
this
purpose.
F
But
there's
regulations
that
that
people
that
have
pp
ppp
can't
get
that.
But
then
the
eda
grant
is
for
public
works
and
it
appears
that
from
some
consultant
information
we
have
that
this
particular
project
would
be
a
stretch
under
that
grant.
So
when
we
piece
that
all
together
it
looked
like
that
was
not
going
to
be
a
feasible
option,
and
even
if
it
was
that,
probably
wouldn't
be
in
our
in
our
hands,
at
least
for
a
three
or
four
month
process,
even
if
it
was
awarded.
A
Did
we
talk
to
the
grand
folks
that
the
cvb
had
told
us
other
cities
in
california
got
money
for
that
purpose?.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
have
comments
in
the
other
parts,
but
I
I
can
wait,
but
I
did
want
to
weigh
in
on
that
councillor.
Middleton.
A
K
K
You
bet
good
afternoon,
members
of
council
looking
at
both
options.
They
do
provide
emergency
access
down
the
center
in
the
partial
closures.
We
do
have
the
24
feet
of
access
using
those
two
lanes-
heading
southbound.
B
Is
that
delay
getting
through
where
the
barricades
are
the
k,
rails,
perpendicular
blocking
the
roadway
and
they
would
have
to
be
moved
or
how
would
that
work.
K
B
And
if
we
go
the
full
closure
route,
do
you
have
a
preference
as
to
what
direction
we
go.
B
Full
closure
with
full
closure.
How
would
you
recommend
the
barriers
be
placed
because
there's.
A
You
still
some
questions,
and
I
know
san
francisco
has
had
parklets
on
streets
that
I
must
from
living.
There
have
constant
traffic
without
the
k,
rails
and
they've
had
them
for
a
decade.
Do
we
know
if
there's
been
any
issues
with
cars
and
the
parklets.
A
A
They
take
up
they're
two
feet
wide,
so
if
you
have
a
seven
foot
parking
spot
and
you're
taking
two
feet
of
it
away,
you're
limiting
its
use
as
well.
So
I
just
have
a
little
concern
on
that
and
if
these
have
existed
for
decades
in
cities
on
busy
roads
and
there's
been
an
issue
would
be
good
to
know
why,
and
if
there
has
been
an
issue
you
know
we'd
want
to
know,
because
safety
obviously
is
a
priority.
A
I
have
seen
other
cities
in
southern
california
that
have
done
nothing
more,
but
the
sort
of
trellis
wood
fencing
with
wire
wrapped
around
it.
You
know
and
I'd
like
these
to
be
aesthetically
pleasing,
but
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
what
we
can
to
help
businesses
in
a
cost
effective
way
for
them.
So
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out.
I've
seen
all
kinds
of
different
options
here.
The
other
thing
just
I
was
on
council,
I'm
sure.
A
Hopefully
this
is
helpful
for
you
dennis
councilmember
woods
has
been
sort
of
the
liaison
on
this.
I
was
on
one
of
the
stakeholder
calls
I
couldn't
be
on
the
other
because
of
a
brown
act
issue.
If
there
are
three
of
us,
but
some
of
the
comments
just
to
share
with
the
rest
of
the
council
that
we
heard
was
if
we
only
do
whatever
we
do
on
those
two
blocks,
we're
sort
of
picking
winners
and
losers
that
there's
a
lot
of
concern.
A
A
This
half
built
almost
half
block
long
hotel
that
really
limits
their
business
and
to
keep
them
out
of
this
would
hurt
them
and
more
people
would
be
drawn
downtown.
I
think
there's
the
flip
to
that
for
people
who
live
here.
A
lot
of
people
don't
go
downtown
tournament,
bella
chester,
if
they're
going
out,
they
go
to
restaurants
away.
A
So
I
don't
know
that
that's
the
case,
but
I
did
want
to
share
those
comments
and
those
concerns
from
some
folks
as
well,
and
then
the
other
issue,
with
closing
one
lane
of
some
part
of
palm
canyon,
is
as
we
enter
season.
We
already
hear
that
the
sidewalks
are
already
getting
too
crowded
in
the
summer,
given
kovid
and
we're
just
gonna
have
more
people
waiting
outside
to
get
into
those
restaurants
and
then,
if
we
close,
the
street
there'd
be
more
room
for
people
to
spread
out
and
have
some
more
distance.
A
So
just
some
things.
I
just
want
to
share
with
council
that
I
had
heard
at
the
stakeholder
meeting
and
there
definitely
was
different
views.
They
were
all
over
the
maps,
and
I
do
want
to
highlight
what
our
planning
director
said
is
everywhere
in
the
city,
can
do
parking,
lots
or
parklets
depending
on
where
they
are?
It's
not
just
downtown,
so
it'll
be
important
that
we
engage
beyond
just
main
street
on
what
we
do
here,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
other
businesses,
restaurants
and
some
retail
who
want
more
space.
E
E
F
The
staff
would
yeah
this
was.
This
was
primarily
just
to
the
businesses
that
we
had
on
the
first
stakeholder
call
and
the
second
stakeholder
call.
Actually
it
was
main
street
that
did
it
as
a
joint
meeting.
I
believe
that
was
primarily
all
businesses
as
well,
council,
member
and
and
just
from
past
discussions
in
this
area.
The
tennis
club
clearly
is
the
neighborhood.
F
That's
most
immediately
affected
their
their
concerns
have
traditionally
been,
you
know
the
access
in
and
out
there
al
also
and
then,
and
that
issue
particularly
was
barista
and
bellardo,
and
as
long
as
those
areas
were
open
and
flowed
freely,
that
didn't
seem
to
be
a
problem,
and
now
then,
with
the
addition
of
the
opening
of
the
ballardo
bridge
and
that
extra
access
issues
with
the
neighborhood
have
seemed
to
be
lessened
with
any
events
that
we
have
downtown.
That
seems
to
have
been
taken
care
of
fairly
well.
B
I
can
second
what
dr
eddie
said
when
it
comes
to
tennis
club
neighborhood.
C
It's
been
a
very
fantastic
process
dealing
with
some
of
the
stakeholders
that
are
within
the
downtown
area,
and
I
just
want
to
give
a
little
history.
We,
I
don't
think
when
kobet
first
hit.
We
thought
it
would
last
as
long
as
it
has
lasted,
and
when
the
the
state
said
you
could
no
longer
dine
indoors,
we
immediately
jumped
into
action
and
allowed
them
to
move
allowed.
Restaurants
to
move
tables
into
the
sidewalk
with
a
temporary
land
use
permit.
C
There
was.
There
was
an
overwhelming
demand
for
that,
as
we
have
seen,
and
there
were
some
problems
that
came
up
with
that.
So
we
were
trying
to
devise
what's
the
next
step
and
we
looked
at
other
cities
to
see
what
that
next
step
might
be,
and
originally
we
were
looking
at
just
parklets,
but
we
also
looked
at
you
know.
Parklets
can
be
very
expensive
for
a
restaurant
to
build
and
aesthetically
pleasing
and
whatnot.
C
So
we
looked
at
also
just
using
k
rails
in
front
of
parker's,
which
is
much
more
cost
effective
for
a
restaurant,
and
then
they
can
decorate
the
inside
of
that
k
rail
to
identify
their
brand
whatever
it
may
be.
I
think
we
saw
that
with
trio
with
all
of
its
orange
umbrellas
as
an
example,
and
it
gave
them
that
extra
little
space
and
got
some
of
the
congestion
off
of
the
sidewalk,
which
is
what
we
were
seeing
when
people
were
passing,
they
weren't
able
to
keep
a
six
foot
distance.
C
So
that's
just
a
little
bit
of
the
history
where
we
got
so.
The
mayor
went
to
main
street
meeting
and
the
main
street
merchants
asked
for
the
opportunity
to
discuss
closing
off
the
entire
street.
So
what
we
did
is
we
came
back
with
some
proposals
to
do
that.
That
included
the
partial
closure,
and
then
we
came
back
with
what
a
full
closure
would
be
and
looked
at
all
the
pros
and
cons
of
each
of
those
opportunities.
C
We
could
also
do
that
with
the
partial
closure
on
on
that.
I
think
the
partial
closure
came
up
because
we
were
more
concerned
at
the
initial
onset
about
traffic
flow
through
the
area
and
safety
issues
like
trash
and
garbage
and
whatnot
whatever,
which
in
arenas
came
up
on
more
than
one
occasion.
We
got
that
notice
today
that
they
would
like
a
full
closure
which
we
could
be.
I
would
be
in
support
of.
C
Actually,
there
are
what
we
what
what
we
decide
tonight
is
whether
we
close
or
don't
close
streets
and
give
some
direction
to
staff,
but
staff
will
have
to
come
up
with
some
design
guidelines
once
we
once
we've
decided
what
we're
doing
with
closure
of
streets,
and
I
think
that
can
be
effectively
done
within
a
week
or
two
in
a
brochure
put
out
according
to
my
discussions
with
staff,
so
that's
a
little
bit
of
the
history
we
and
the,
as
I
think,
has
been
stated
twice
already.
A
B
All
right,
if
we're
going
to
move
to
comments,
I
have
a
few.
I
do
have
some
concerns
about
closing
palm
canyon
fully
for
access
of
emergency
vehicles,
but
I
think
we
can
manage
that,
and
I
would
very
much
like
us
to
try
a
closure
of
palm
canyon
completely.
B
In
listening
to
the
merchants
and
just
my
own
observations,
it
will
be
so
much
safer
not
to
have
vehicles
going
through
the
areas
where
people
are
dining
out
in
the
street.
It
will
create
a
much
more
open
pedestrian
access
at
village
fest
at
all
of
our
various
festivals.
When
we
close
palm
canyon
completely,
we
see
an
incredible
amount
of
foot
traffic
in
and
around
our
downtown
and
it
draws
people
to
the
downtown.
B
So
I
think
this
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
try
something
and
and
see
how
it
works.
I
I
believe
we
should
move
in
as
measured
steps
as
we
can
so
that
we
determine
if,
in
fact
something
that
we
think
is
going
to
work
actually
does
work,
and
I
definitely
want
to
see
the
closure
from
chocolates
canyon
to
barista.
I
am
open
to
extending
that
on
to
to
alejo
or
excuse
me
to
arenas,
as
proposed
by
the
planning
director.
B
The
parklets
look
like
a
very
attractive
idea.
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
the
initial
cost
of
those
parklets
and
in
moving
to
that,
and
whether
we
have
the
financial
means
to
to
undertake
those
right
now
it,
but
is
something
that
aesthetically
is
much
more
attractive
and
if
we
can
demonstrate
that
they
have
lasting
appeal,
then
I
think
that's
something
that
we
should
look
at.
B
B
So
this
is
somewhat
off
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
I
would
suggest
that
we
look
at
this
being
somewhere
in
the
vicinity
of
a
six-month
commitment
to
give
us
time
to
check
in
and
make
sure
that
what
we
hope
is
working
actually
is
working.
B
But
and
lastly,
I
want
to
applaud
member
woods
and
mayor
coors
and
everyone
at
main
street
in
our
business
community
and
staff,
for
the
way
that
they
came
together
and
came
together
so
quickly.
B
E
Thank
you,
council
member
middleton
raised
something
that
makes
me
another
question
if
we
were
to
close
the
entire
downtown
and
we
had
the
k
rails
up
from
the
pictures
it
looked
like
the
k
rails
would
be
kind
of
connected.
Would
there
even
be
pedestrian
access
from
the
middle,
or
would
people
have
to
go
all
the
way
down
the
middle
and
to
the
nearest
intersection
before
they
could
get
around?
E
I'm
just
interested
in
how
that
would
work,
because
if,
if
the
way
that
the
k
rails
are
going
to
be
means
that
people
actually
can't
just
easily
cut
in
to
the
sidewalk,
then
I'm
I'm
more
in
favor
of
a
partial
closure,
because
you
really
wouldn't
be
able
to
use
that
space
anyway.
So
if
you
can
just
someone
can
address
that.
That
would
be
helpful.
J
We,
I
don't
think
that
we
would
want
them
to
to
go
down
the
middle
of
the
street.
Just
because
again
we
will
have
east-west
traffic
through
there
with
the
partial
closure.
The
k
rails
would
separate
the
lanes
of
traffic,
so
the
only
places
where
pedestrians
could
cross
or
should
cross
safely
is
at
the
intersections.
J
One
of
the
points
that
we
brought
up
relative
to
the
disadvantages
of
the
partial
closure
is,
unless
we
have
the
k
rails
butted
up
against
each
other.
There
is
the
possibility
that
pedestrians
could
attempt
to
jaywalk
across
the
open
lanes
of
palm
canyon
and
that's
something
that
we
would
want
to
avoid
from
a
safety
standpoint.
E
F
Village
fest
configuration
so
they
certainly
could
go
in
on
each
side
of
the
sidewalk
or
they
could
cross
the
street
to
go
to
the
sidewalk
on
the
other
side
and
then,
of
course,
once
they're
going
down
the
sidewalks.
They
would
have
access
to
the
streets
crossing
in
essence,
mid-block,
because
there
would
be
no.
E
J
E
Okay,
thank
you.
That
makes
way
more
sense,
because
I
thought
that
in
either
scenario,
they
were
still
being
blocked.
Okay,
that
makes
more
sense.
I'm
you
know
I
I'm
I
was
actually
I
I'm
I'm
not
really
sure
where
I
stand
on
on
partial
or
or
full
closure,
I
think
I
I
do
like
being
able
to
have
the
the
vehicle
access
through
the
partial
closure
just
because
I
know
that
there
is
a
lot
of
traffic
downtown
and
people
are
trying
to
will
be
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
get
around.
E
So
so
I
am
kind
of
leaning
towards
towards
the
partial,
but
I'm
open
I'm
open
to
the
full
closure.
E
I
do
think
that,
as
councilmember
middleton
said
we
should
she
should
try
it
out
for
maybe
four
to
six
months
to
see
how
it
goes
and
to
see
how
the
businesses
respond.
I
am
concerned
for
the
businesses
that
the
retailers
that
said
that
they
were
worried
about
their
business.
I
could,
I
could
kind
of
see
it
both
ways.
I
feel
like
there's
more
foot
traffic.
E
I
know
some
people
have
mentioned
that
it
looks
like
we
could
possibly
be
moving
to
dining
indoors
relatively
soon,
but
I
think
that
this
is
still
a
really
attractive
option,
because
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who,
even
if
the
governor
were
to
say
that
they
could
dine
in
tomorrow,
would
not
be
comfortable
with
that.
So
I
think
allowing
for
more
outdoor
space
for
for
dining
would
would
be
really
positive
for
everyone.
E
So
I'm
just
curious
what
the
other
council
members
think,
oh
and
in
terms
of
painting
them
I
do
feel
like
there
should
be
some
consistency
in
that
I'm
I
could.
E
I
can
I've
seen
photos
that
that
residents
sent
of
kind
of
an
area
where
it
kind
of
went
wrong
and
it
really
the
painting
just
did
not
look
very
nice,
but
I'm
sure
that
if
there
was
some
kind
of
consistency,
if
it
was
all
painted,
one
color
for
instance-
or
there
was
a
theme
that
maybe
that
would
make
things
look
a
little
more
fun
instead
of
just
being
ugly.
Karel.
A
Is
this
really
interesting
and
you
know
haven't
heard
from
businesses,
and
I
was
on
the
chamber
board
call
today,
I
think,
trying
you
know
we
can
set
a
time
we
want
to
try
for
the
parklets
which
businesses
will
invest
in
you
know.
I
think
we
can
agree
to
have
that.
You
know
through
season
or
for
a
year,
because
it's
not
closing
lanes,
it's
not
causing
any
issue,
but
as
far
as
closing
the
lane
of
traffic
or
closing
part
of
palm
canyon
entirely,
I
think
we
do
have
to
see
how
it
goes
right.
A
If
we
can't
work
out
the
traffic,
if
we
can't
work
it
out,
we
may
not
want
to
keep
it
for
six
months
or
a
year,
but
that
would
be
the
city
sort
of
investing
in
the
money
to
rent
the
k
rail.
So
it's
a
little
different.
I
wouldn't
want
businesses
to
go
through
an
expense
and
we
realized
in
two
months.
It's
not
working
at
all.
I
do
think
closing
palm
canyon
is
better.
I
share
the
concern
council
member
middleton.
A
What
makes
that
area
charming
and
I
think
it's
a
majority
of
the
merchants-
and
there
were
community
members
who
did
weigh
in
on
the
survey
but
wanted
to
try
the
full
closure
that
in
other
places
that
have
done
it,
it's
actually
helped
both
restaurants
and
retail,
and
not
just
in
that
area,
but
other
areas,
because
it's
an
attraction
for
more
people
to
come.
A
So
I
might
be
inclined
to
start
it
with
the
two
blocks
and
see
how
it
goes,
I'm
also
very
open
to
taking
it
up
to
alejo,
because
I
do
think
it's
something
we
can
do.
I
know
the
arts
commission
has
expressed
an
interest
in
helping
to
do.
If
it
is
closed
fully,
they
can
bring
art
downtown,
it
can
be
programmed.
You
know
there
are
things
we
can
do
and
I
do
care
about
the
aesthetics,
but
mostly
I
care
about
that.
A
Our
businesses
are
still
hanging
in
there
and
anything
we
can
do
right
now,
even
if
it
wasn't
the
most
attractive
to
help
our
businesses
to
me
has
to
be
the
first
priority.
Those
are
our
workers,
those
people
put
their
lives
in
and
nothing
against.
A
I
think,
having
the
two
lanes
we're
going
to
push
more
people
onto
the
sidewalks
as
season
comes,
I
don't
think
is
safer,
so
that
would
be
my
leading,
but
you
know
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
really
good
options
here,
and
I
really
appreciate
all
our
staff
and
councilmember
woods
has
done
on
this
next.
I
I
Based
on
his
expertise,
I
agree
with
the
mayor
and
and
what
every
everything
that's
been
said.
I
I
also
favor
a
full
closure.
I
do
think
this
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
think
broadly
and
bigger
about
the
future
of
downtown,
since
this
pandemic
is
going
to
last
a
lot
longer
than
I
think
we
initially
wanted.
If
our
country
had
handled
it
better
and
we
need
to
plan
for
a
longer
haul
than
we
initially
did.
So
I
am
excited
about
the
opportunity
to
think
through.
I
You
know
what
part
of
palm
canyon
being
closed
for
pedestrian
assets
looks
like
arenas
as
well.
I
know
we
closed
it
for
the
pride
festival,
and
that
was
probably
the
best
time
I've
had
downtown
because
it
was
all
open
and
people
were
walking
around
and
I
think
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
feedback
from
our
community
that
people
are
afraid
to
go
downtown
because
there
isn't
enough
room
for
social
distancing
and
we
need
to
do
everything
we
can
to
protect
our
local
businesses
and
our
our
jobs
here.
I
So
I
am,
I'm
open,
I'm
interested
to
see
what
our
liaison
things
we
should
do
here,
but
I
do
favor
more
of
a
complete
closure
than
partial.
I
just
don't
think
cars
and
pedestrians
and
restaurants
all
mixed,
very
well
and
I'm
worried
about
the
safety
issues
in
terms
of
the
length.
I'd,
maybe
propose
that
we
think
broadly
about
you
know
how
much
of
downtown
we
could
impact
if
it
is
favorable
and
we
want
to
include
more
businesses
than
fewer,
because
I
think
it
is
going
to
be.
I
C
As
far
as
safety
goes,
I
mean
the
the
overarching
safety
want
to
do
is
have
physical
separation
with
people,
and
that's
really
our
goal
here
and
I
think
we're
achieving
that
in
all
of
these,
I
think
both
options
are
are
safe.
So
one
thing
that
came
up
at
the
stakeholder
meeting
by
a
planning,
commissioner,
was
phase
it.
C
E
Thank
you,
yeah,
that's
actually
another
just
flynn.
If
you
could
confirm
it's
from
the
diagrams,
it
looks
like
that
24
foot
area
would
would
need
to
be
kept
open,
so
that
would
be
mean
that
the
build
up
for
restaurants,
regardless
of
whether
it's
a
partial
closure
of
full
closure,
would
be
the
same
right.
J
That
is
correct
because
we
do
need
to
maintain
the
center
24
feet
open
for
emergency
access.
The
build
out
is
approximately
the
same.
The
only
benefit
to
the
full
closure
is
we
don't
have
that
two
feet
for
the
concrete
k
rails,
so
that
gives
us
a
couple
of
extra
feet,
but
it's
not
going
to
measurably
make
it
more
spacious.
E
Okay,
thank
you
was
I
I
agree
with
what
council
member
what
this
is
saying
is.
I
think
we
have
to
be
flexible
with
this
and
see
how
it
goes,
and
I'm
I'm
fine
to
do
the
full
closure
and
see
how
it
goes
and
if
we
need
to
adjust,
then
we
need
to
adjust,
and
you
know
our
the
restaurants
and
businesses
should
just
know
that
that
two
feet
would
be
needed
if
it
did
have
to
go
to
a
partial,
closer
closure.
So
you
keep
that
in
mind
with
their
build
out
and
yeah.
C
Layout,
so
it
seems
we
have
a
bit
of
consensus
on
a
foreclosure
if
I'm
reading
everyone
correctly
so-
and
I
think
that
I
heard
that
for
the
end
of
the
year
for
the
closure
and
then
maybe
parklets,
I
think
the
mayor
had
said
a
little
longer
for
parklets.
If
they
invested
in
a
wooden
park
that
I
guess
versus
a
k-rail
parklet.
A
Yeah
I
mean,
I
think,
for
parklets.
You
know
whether
we
want
to
go
through
season
or
we
want
to
go
a
year
if
they're
investing
right
in
building
a
parkland,
I
think,
is
fair.
As
far
as
the
street
closure,
I
mean,
I
think
we
do
it
and
see
how
it
goes.
A
I
wouldn't
want
to
say
we're
going
to
do
it
to
the
end
of
the
year
if,
after
you
know
six
weeks,
it
turns
out
that
people
aren't
using
it
or
that
we
haven't
been
able
to
address
traffic
issues,
because
I
think
that's
you
know
we're
just
closing
at
the
top
and
bottom
of
the
street
and
that's
also
an
easy
thing
to
expand
or
contract
based
on
the
impacts
of
it.
So
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
have
a
deadline.
A
You
know
we're
fortunate
and
even
last
night,
having
gone
downtown
on
a
hot
humid
night,
a
lot
of
people
were
eating
outside
once
the
sun
went
behind
the
mountain,
so
we're
about
to
have
the
best
weather
in
the
state
and
probably
in
the
country
in
the
country
at
least
other
than
hawaii,
and
so
people
want
to
be
outside,
and
this
could
really
help
our
businesses.
So
I
think
it's
a
great
way
forward,
but
I
think
we
do
need.
A
As
you
know,
commissioner
lewin
pointed
out,
we
should
try
something
and
be
really
open
to
changing
it.
If
it's
working
or
not
not
working,
we
can
expand
it.
We
can
contract
it.
You
know,
I
think
we
have
to
watch
it
because
the
first
time
we're
doing
it
and
learn
from
what
we
see.
A
I'd
rather
be
here
in
the
winter
than
hawaii.
That's
why
we
live
here.
The
other
thing
that
did
come
up
from
one
restaurant
just
to
share
on
the
chamber
call
today
was
you
know
if
they
have
tables
on
the
street?
Do
they
need
to
get
security?
How
that's
going
to
work,
I
understand
from
other
cities.
A
A
lot
of
them
are
using
their
indoor
tables
out
when
they
just
move
them
back
in
at
night,
but
I
don't
know
if
councilmember
woods
or
planning
director
any
thoughts
on
that
that
they
just
want
to
share,
but
I
did
say
I
would
share
it
at
the
meeting.
C
A
Okay,
so
just
so
clear
if
it
seems
like
there's
a
leaning
to
try
a
foreclosure,
is
that
awkward
to
barista
to
start?
Is
it
further?
E
I
I
I
feel
like
maybe
starting
with
a
smaller
area
at
first
might
be
better
and
then
we
could
expand.
But
you
know
it's,
it's
definitely
a
lot
of
of
work.
I
know
that
elmer's
they're
moving
out
their
furniture
and
moving
it
back
in
every
day
and
setting
up
tents
and
the
whole
thing.
So
this
is
a
big
endeavor
for
our
businesses
and
I'm
excited
about
it.
But
I
think
that
this
is
also
going
to
be
growing
things.
I
J
I
J
J
A
And
what
I
guess
two
questions
if
I
think
it
was
like
a
third
of
the
retail
said
they
might
want
to
sometimes
have
a
presence.
Would
we
be
able
to
allow
that?
Obviously,
with
you
know,
design
standards
as
well.
J
We
could
allow
that
what
I
would
recommend
is
that
staff
continue
to
work
with
the
main
street
organization
in
terms
of
establishing
the
standards
when
the
retail
will
be
out
on
the
street
what
that
looks
like,
etc.
So
we
would
work
directly
with
main
street
and
their
retail
businesses
to
develop
those
standards
and
the
time
period,
etc.
A
J
If
we
have
the
blessing
of
city
council
to
proceed
with
a
closure,
we
would
go
ahead
and
work
with
the
businesses
there
and
then
implement
that
in
approximately
the
same
time
frame.
But
again,
I
think
there's
some
additional
outreach.
That
needs
to
be
done
before
we
make
a
decision
here
tonight
on
uranus
and
I'll.
Ask
anyone
to
jump
in
if
you
have
more
information
than
I
do.
C
A
Yeah
as
long
as
you
feel
you
have
a
direction
from
us,
I
think
continuing
to
work
with
them
and
coming
up
with
a
solution
would
be
great,
and
I
think
you
know
as
long
as
we
come
back,
you
know
after
a
month-
or
you
know
just
report
back
to
council,
because
if
it's
working
and
we're
hearing
from
businesses
on
the
other
block,
so
they
want
to
expand
it.
We
want
to
know-
and
of
course,
if
there
are
significant
problems,
we
want
to
know
that.
A
F
Well,
I
think
it
might
be
helpful
if
we
summarized
okay,
so
so
flynn
marcus.
If
we
could,
why
don't
we
summarize
the
best
is
we
feel
that
we
have
our
arms
around
the
direction
go
ahead
flynn?
Will
you.
J
I
believe
that
we
have
swayed
you
to
go
with
a
limited
closure
at
first,
so
we'll
start
at
baristo
and
go
to
tockwits
with
the
idea
that
we
will
verify
any
issues
and
come
back
to
city
council
and
look
at
expanding
that
area
further
up
the
street.
If
we
are
successful
relative
to
arenas,
we
will
go
ahead
and
work
with
the
merchants
to
determine
if
they
do
want
to
close
their
street,
and
we
will
make
those
options
available
to
them
and
carry
that
forward
after
we
do
outreach
to
merchants
there.
J
In
terms
of
the
time
frame,
we
have
not
decided
for
a
specific
time
frame
on
the
full
closure
at
this
point
in
time
again,
we'll
do
that
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
However,
for
anyone
wishing
to
do
parklets,
we
would
be
able
to
approve
the
parklets
through
a
land
use
permit
for
a
period
of
one
year
and
I'm
trying
to
think
if
there's
anything
else,
doctors.
F
Ready
how
about
with
regard
to
when
we
ultimately
could
get
this
implemented?
So
since
it's
basically
going
to
be
a
village
fest
closure
configuration,
we
generally
could
do
that,
probably
within
a
week
or
quickly.
The
question
is:
do
you
do
do
we
do
that
flynn?
Do
you
envision
and
then
we
let
the
the
restaurant
tours
go
ahead
and
basically
populate
it
or
do
you
need
to
approve
a
basically
a
layout
plan
prior.
J
What
we
would
want
to
do
is
we
would
want
to
approve
the
temporary
land
use
permit
for
the
restaurants
that
expand
out
into
the
street
in
order
to
make
sure
that
their
placement
is
correct
and
also
verifying
the
aesthetics
of
that.
So
we
would
issue
land
use
permits
for
that.
We
are
set
up
to
do
that
now,
so
that
doesn't
take
us
any
time.
I
think
really.
The
key
issue
for
us
is
ordering
the
barricades
and
getting
those
things
in
place.
J
The
additional
traffic
control
signage
that
we
will
need.
So
it
will
take
us
a
little
bit
of
time
to
do
some
of
those
associated
things,
but
in
terms
of
issuing
the
land
use
permits
and
letting
the
restaurant
owners
move
forward,
we
can
do
that
pretty
quickly
and
pretty
easy.
F
And
could
I
could
I
ask
you
flynn:
just
did
you
talk
about
for
deliveries
for
those
that
may
not
have
access
off,
bellardo
or
indian,
or
in
the
back
of
that?
How
would
we
do
deliveries
for
those
mid-block.
J
A
I,
like
your
proposal
of
reaching
out
to
the
other
business.
You
know
one
of
the
things
we
heard
on.
One
of
the
calls
was
you
know:
people
don't
want
umbrellas
blocking
their
signs
or
things
like
that,
but
I
think
that's
work
outable.
You
know
by
notifying
those
other
businesses.
First,
obviously,
we've
heard
of
at
least
one
business
that
wanted
someone
to
pay
them
three
thousand
a
month
to
be
able
to
be
on
the
city's
property
which
obviously,
as
you
pointed
out,
that
it
can't
do.
A
That
is
our
property,
but
I
mean
I'm
open
to
it
as
long
as
the
other
business
knows,
and
we
can
figure
out
a
way
to
make
it
work,
so
we're
not
hurting
the
other
business
who
may
not
want
to
use
that
space.
B
Yeah,
I'm
a
little
nervous
about
people
expanding
their
footprint
in
front
of
someone
else's
business
and,
if
we're
going
to
start
slowly
with
this,
I
I
think
it
may
be
wiser
to
say
you
can
go
in
front
of
your
business
and
then
see
how
that's
working
before
we
allow
people
to
expand
in
front
of
someone
else's
front
door.
Yeah.
A
So
we
already
do
that
now,
so
it's
come
up
with
some.
You
know
we
have
some
restaurants
that
have
actually
no
outdoor
space,
so
they
only
have
four
tables,
they
just
can't
survive,
and
so
I
think
what
I
liked
about
the
proposal
was
the
other
business
gets
notified.
I
know
they
have
an
issue.
A
So
anyway,
I
mean
director,
do
you
think
that's
manageable,
or
do
you
think
you're
going
to
be
negotiating
having
to
try
and
meditate.
J
E
C
Before
we
end,
I
really
want
to
acknowledge
staff
on
this.
I
think
councilmember
middleton
summed
it
up
and
it
was
a
collaboration
between
a
lot
of
different
people,
but
the
amount
of
staff
hours
have
been
put
into
this.
They
worked.
They
worked
on
it
for
a
couple
of
months
with
a
big
pressure
at
the
end
and
they
did
a
phenomenal
job
and
there
are
people
that
aren't
even
on
the
call
today,
our
staff
that
worked
on
this.
So
I
just
really
want
to
acknowledge
everyone
that
worked
on
it.
C
A
Thank
you
for
that,
and
thank
you,
council,
member
and
staff
for
all
the
work
and
all
the
businesses
who
really
listen
to
each
other.
I
think
in
a
really
positive
way
to
have
as
many
people
as
we're
on
that
the
call
I
was
on
and
how
well
it
was
managed
and
the
way
people
listened
to
each
other
was
really
really
good
to
see.
So
thank
you,
council,
member
city
manager
and
council
member
reports
or
update
you
don't
have
anything.
A
I
have
one
brief
thing
I
did
check
in
with
riverside
county
to
get
an
update
on
the
affordable,
supportive
housing
project
where
that
was
at
so
just
want
to
share
a
most
recent
update
and
for
folks
who
weren't
on
our
last
meeting.
A
The
state
through
cares,
act,
funding
and
project
room
key
made
available
money
to
counties
in
a
competitive
grant
process
in
order
to
do
permanent,
supportive,
very
low
income,
housing
with
supportive
services
on
site,
the
focus
of
the
people
who
will
get
that
housing
are
seniors
because
it's
tied
to
project
room
key
which
is
targeted
at
seniors,
and
I
think
there
are,
I
think,
pregnant
women.
A
There
are
a
couple
categories,
but
seniors
were
the
main
category,
so
that'll
be
the
focus
of
who
would
get
this
housing
if
they
get
the
grant
they
only
had.
I
think
we
heard
at
our
last
meeting
two
and
a
half
weeks
from
when
they
knew
that
there
was
an
opportunity
to
get
the
grant
to
move
forward
and
they
needed
to
know
that
we'd
be
willing
to
put
some
of
the
money
we
got
in
a
grant
from
the
state
for
the
specific
purpose
of
converting
a
hotel
or
motel
into
permanent
housing.
A
A
In
the
meantime,
the
housing
authority
is
working
on
a
public
notification
process
and,
in
my
conversation
with
the
county,
as
we
heard
from
gregor
rodriguez
last
time
any
if
they
do
get
the
grant,
it
will
come
back
to
council
to
discuss
the
terms
and
have
more
public
input
as
well.
So
we
just
want
to
give
an
update
what
we
heard
today
and
we'll
do
the
same
at
the
next
meeting.
If
there's
any
other
news
on
that
project,
that's
all
I
had
anyone
else
there
for
tim
hostage.
I
Thank
you
mayor.
I
appreciate
that
we're
getting
a
lot
of
emails
about
that
project
and
there
is
some
misinformation
going
around
about
the
project.
So
thank
you
for
clarifying
the
facts
just
to
be
clear.
This
is
not
a
shelter.
It's
permanent
housing,
the
county
operates
hundreds
of
units
of
permanent
housing
throughout
the
county
and
in
palm
springs
residents,
probably
don't
even
know
where
a
lot
of
those
sites
are
because
it
looks
like
apartment,
housing
and
honestly,
it's
usually
nicer
than
other
housing.
I
So,
just
to
be
clear,
you
know
we
are
getting
a
lot
of
emails
opposed
to
the
project.
Saying
there
wasn't
public
input.
The
county
is
able
to
develop
a
permanent
housing
project
without
the
city's
approval
at
all.
The
reason
why
it
came
to
council
is
because
they
are
requesting
some
of
our
funding
and
we
unanimously
pledge
that
money
if
their
application
is
approved,
but
you
know
that
is
still
with
the
state
and
it
like
the
mayor,
said
it
will
come
back
to
council.
We
obviously
want
to
hear
from
everyone.
I
We
want
to
get
those
comments
and
we
want
to
have
a
public
process,
but
it's
not
that
you
know
everything's
decided
or
that
it's
being
pushed
through.
It's
just
that
there's
special
funds
available
because
of
covid,
because
there
are
so
many
homeless
people
in
palm
springs
in
the
coachella
valley.
The
county
has
actually
housed
750
people
in
the
region
in
the
coachella
valley,
just
during
this
crisis.
So
we
know
that
there
are
about
over
a
thousand
people
and
likely
more
who
need
housing
during
this
time
and
these
are
permanent
apartment
units.
Thank
you.
I
I
wanted
to
give
an
update
about
our
ps,
keeping
you
safe
campaign,
so
I
know
we
updated
the
council
before,
but
the
city
and
working
in
partnership
with
ps
resorts
the
palm
springs
chamber.
The
palm
springs
bureau
of
tourism
has
launched
this
ps,
keeping
you
safe.
You've,
probably
seen
our
signs
and
billboards
downtown
and
throughout
the
city,
so
we've
actually
put
up-
and
this
is
donations
from
the
tourism
groups,
to
pay
for
four
billboards
throughout
the
city.
We
have
25
large
signs
throughout
our
business
districts.
I
A
public
service
announcement
with
nbc
and
univision,
with
manny
the
movie
guy
to
get
out
the
word
that
space
coverings
are
required
and
we've
heard
from
residents
that
people
you
know
want
more
education
campaigns
want
more
enforcement
that
they
want
to
make
sure
people
are
wearing
masks
when
they're
downtown,
and
so
we've
worked
really
hard
to
get
the
word
out
to
educate
folks,
along
with
the
city's
enforcement
efforts
to
make
sure
all
the
tourists
who
come
in
you
know,
people
who
are
downtown
from
other
places
know
that
masks
are
required
or
face
coverings
are
required
in
the
city
of
palm
springs.
A
Yes
and
thank
you
mayor
pro
tem,
thank
you
for
your
work
on
that.
One
thing
that
is
new,
which
today
the
chamber
board
also
voted
to
donate
money.
To
this,
which
is
great,
is
we're
looking
to
do
more
banner
signs,
so
really
wanna
thank
nona
watson
and
the
chamber
board
for
contributing,
as
well
as
the
other
organizations
that
we
shared
at
the
last
meeting.
A
I
think
that's
a
really
really
great
thing
that
the
city
and
our
folks
have
joined
together,
and
one
thing
I
will
add,
as
I
know,
people
may
be
watching
the
democratic
convention
tonight.
A
A
So
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
and
really
appreciate
folks
who
step
up
and
take
on
those
important
roles,
not
just
local,
but
palm
springs,
always
being
represented
at
national
conventions
at
the
state
level
is
just
a
really
great
thing
for
our
city.
So
thank
you
for
taking
that
on
council
member.
C
I
just
want
to
reiterate
mayor
pro
tem's
comments.
You
know
also
was
the
vacation
rentals
that
were
part
of
that
as
well.
C
It
was
a
real
consortium
that
made
that
happen,
but
I
think
I've
heard
comments
like
we're,
not
enforcing
we're,
not
enforcing
well,
you
know
we
are
enforcing
and
actually
I
went
downtown
to
see
if
we
were
enforcing
and
indeed
a
police
car
came
by
with
a
blowhorn,
basically
asking
people
to
put
their
masks
on,
so
it
is
being
done,
and
I
just
want
to
assure
people
we're
doing
everything
we
possibly
can
to
keep
us
a
safe
city,
and
the
last
thing
I
just
want
to
also
reiterate
what
was
mentioned
is
on
the
permanent
support
of
housing.
C
We
have
gotten
a
commitment
from
the
county
to
do
an
outreach
communication
plan
to
understand
more
about
what
it
is,
what
it
isn't
and
as
a
site
has
not
been
selected,
yet
there's
been
a
preference
put
out
there,
but
I
just
want
to
assure
people
that,
according
to
the
county,
they've
made
a
commitment
to
at
least
start
an
outreach
plan
to
keep
us
all
informed.