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Okay,
this
is
the
time
for
public
comments.
The
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
Planning
Commission
on
complaint
calendar
and
other
items
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
Commission.
Please
note
that
the
Planning
Commission
is
prohibited
from
taking
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
Three
minutes
is
allowed
for
each
speaker.
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K
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Thank
you.
Our
next
item
is
public
hearings.
Item
2a
is
new
church
LLC
for
a
time
extension
of
the
entitlements
to
renovate
the
existing
historic
Community,
Church
and
orchid
tree
in
for
adaptive
reuse,
and
to
demolish
portions
of
the
site
for
the
construction
and
operation
of
a
hotel
with
an
accessory
spa,
restaurant
and
meeting
space
on
a
3.1
acre
site
located
at
to-to-to
South
kochiya
Road
status
report.
Please,
madam.
A
Chair
staff
would
request
that
this
item
actually
be
continued
to
the
July
6th
meeting.
We
understand
that
at
that
point
in
time
the
applicant
will
most
likely
withdraw
the
application
based
on
the
recent
approval.
So
again
we
would
request
your
extension
to
July
the
6
to
continue
this
hearing
to
July
6th.
F
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C
Commissioner
song,
can
you
mute
your
thank
you
seat
as
your
property
owner
on
behalf
of
nature's
healing
Products
LLC,
for
a
conditional
use
permit
to
operate
a
4150
square
foot,
cannabis,
manufacturing,
type,
seven,
seven,
volatile
extraction,
transportation
and
distribution
facility
within
two
units
of
a
thirteen
unit,
industrial
building
located
at
one
two,
five,
one
on
Taobao
way:
staff
report.
Please.
O
About
the
staff
report,
and
then
we
have
available
for
discussion,
the
city's
odor
consultant
and
also
our
director
of
special
programs,
and
then
the
applicant
will
have
a
a
brief
video
presentation
that
he'll
give
to
the
Commission
and
then
we'll
have
some
other
answers
or
I'm.
Sorry,
some
presentations
beyond
that.
So,
as
you
mentioned,
this
is
a
request
for
a
conditional
use
permit
for
nature's
healing,
which
is
a
unit
within
the
Montalvo,
a
cannabis
building
at
1251
Montalvo
way.
O
O
So
previously
the
city
has
reviewed
other
cannabis
applications
within
this
building.
There
is
a
a
table
that
is
in
your
staff
report
that
shows
the
different
units
and
the
types
of
entitlements
that
everything
they
have
received
over
the
past
year.
So
in
unit
a
the
Planning
Commission
approved
a
CU
p
for
a
manufacturing
that
basically
of
candies
and
brownies,
and
so
forth,
units
B
and
E.
The
Planning
Commission
granted
an
approval
for
this
project
back
on
February
of
this
year.
O
Originally
the
Planning
Commission
had
denied
the
application
in
October
of
2019,
but
the
applicant
had
revised
the
application
after
it
was
appealed
to
the
City
Council
and
the
Planning
Commission
ultimately
approved
units
F
and
G
are
dispensaries
and
distribution.
These
units
are
currently
open
and
operating.
O
We
are
now
looking
at
H&I,
which
is
a
type
seven
manufacturing
unit.
J
is
manufacturing
which,
which
received
a
regulatory
permit
and
then
was
withdrawn
unit.
K
is
a
distribution
and
transportation
which
is
non
operational
unit.
L
is
an
ecstatic
exotic
extractions
and
that
has
also
also
been
withdrawn.
That
was
a
type
6
and
then
floor.
Llc
received
a
Planning
Commission
approval
for
CU
p
for
a
type
n,
and
that
was
approved.
So,
as
you
can
see
in
the
building,
there
has
been
multiple
applications
that
have
been
approved
and
within
this
building.
O
There
is
a
rollup
door,
there
are
quarantine,
vaults
and
storage
facilities
and
also
a
c1
2
c1
rooms,
which
is
where
the
actual
chemicals
or
volatile
extractions
would
take
place,
and
those
are
marked
in
the
green
areas
on
the
plan.
That's
before
you
now,
so
the
project
was
based
upon
a
zoning
evaluation
on
a
previously
approved
zoning
regulations
for
cannabis.
So
this
regulatory
permit
was
issued
on
June
4th
of
2019,
and
the
City
Council
approved
the
new
regulations
for
cannabis
in
late
last
year
in
2019.
O
At
that
time,
the
City
Council
decided
to
base
these
plans
that
were
already
submitted
to
be
evaluated
on
the
previously
approved
were,
though
previously,
the
previous
law,
which
was
approved
before
in
2019.
So
that
is
the
basis
for
of
the
zoning
analysis.
So
the
property
is
zoned
M
1
P,
which
requires
a
CU
P
for
a
type
7
volatile
extraction.
There
are
no
separation
or
concentration
requirements
relative
to
other
cannabis
facilities,
so
being
that
the
building
has
multiple
uses
within
it.
The
previous
law
would
allow
that
to
occur.
O
There
were
separation
requirements
from
schools,
playgrounds
and
daycares
of
600
feet,
and
that
will
go
into
some
maps
that
show
how
that
was
analyzed.
So
there
are
several
schools
that
are
within
840
and
1,200
square
feet
of
the
property.
There
is
a
park
that
is
within
1,600
square
feet
of
the
property.
O
When
we
discussed
the
odor
control
plan,
the
odor
control
plan
includes
building
a
box
within
a
box,
and
the
Planning
Commission
is
has
discussed
this
at
many
times
on
relative
to
these
cannabis
applications
that
they
will
build
walls
within
a
wall
and
ceilings,
and
that's
the
proposal
here.
They're
proposing
hepa,
chuck,
hepa
charcoal
filters
and
air
to
be
exchanged
every
one
minute.
O
So
in
your
packet,
you
also
have
a
plan
that
shows
how
this
will
take
place.
This
is
an
example
of
a
box
within
a
box
showing
the
walls
roof
and
then
how
the
mechanical
equipment
will
extract
any
odors
or
air
and
exchange
it
for
every
minute,
and
our
odor
control
consultant
has
reviewed
this
plan
and
has
submitted
a
letter
of
approval,
and
you
will
you
have
that
in
your
packet
and
he
will
be
available
in
just
a
minute.
O
So
staff
has
has
found
that
the
project
conforms
to
separation,
distance
requirements
based
upon
the
previously
approved
zoning
code.
The
construction
enhancements
to
the
to
the
building
mechanical
systems
were
reduce
and
eliminate
the
impacts
of
proposed,
odors
or
use,
and
it
conforms
to
the
criteria
of
an
approval
of
a/c
yupi.
So
the
applicant
will
go
into
how
what
is
actually
going
to
be
occurring
at
the
property
and
there's
a
whole
process
of
how
the
biomass,
the
unused
material
comes
into
the
site
it
gets
stored
and
then
extracted,
and
then
it
gets
delivered
or
transported
out.
O
So
we've
added
some
conditions
of
approval
that
include
air
curtains
at
all
exterior
entrances,
adding
an
airlock
wall
at
the
front
entrance
and
currently
the
floor
plan
does
not
show
this
staff
is
recommending
that
you
add
a
airlock
wall.
This
is
similar
to
a
cannabis
operation
that
the
Planning
Commission
approved
a
long
Ramon
Road.
It
was
a
cultivation
facility
and
you
had
a
wall
right
when
you
walk
in
the
front
entrance.
O
O
So
in
your
packet,
you
also
received
an
email
today.
Numerous
correspondence
from
residents
and
neighbors
within
the
escena
development
and
I
wanted
to
note
that
receive
some
additional
comments
that
were
forwarded
to
the
Planning
Commission
later
this
afternoon
and
that
will
hopefully
be
you'll
have
time
to
read
those
those
comments.
Some
were
for
and
some
we're
against.
O
So
looking
at
our
recommendation,
staff
recommends
that
you've
received
an
odor
control.
Approval
from
our
consultant
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
project,
and
this
was
evaluated
against
the
development
standards
of
the
previous
zoning
code.
The
city
has
completed
the
background
checks
and
the
regulatory
permit
can
be
issued
once
the
COP
is
approved
so
chair.
That
concludes
my
report
and,
as
I
mentioned,
you
do
have
correspondence
and
we
have
the
odor
consultant
that
we
can
call
at
your
convenience.
C
E
Just
have
a
couple
with
respect
to
the
box
and
in
a
box
Glen
when
you
showed
the
diagram
sort
of
an
elevation
of
the
building,
a
slice
of
the
building.
It
looked
to
me
like
on
the
on
my
left
side
when
I
was
reading
that
diagram
that
there
was
no
separate
independent
wall
as
part
of
the
Box
on
the
far
left
hand
side.
Is
that
just
a
mistake
in
the
drawing.
E
A
E
O
F
O
So
my
understanding
is
the
the
c1
units
are
a
higher
standard
of
a
box
that
will
that
could
contain
any
kind
of
of
explosion
or
problem
with
the
with
the
material.
Then
all
the
other
buildings
would
all
the
other
walls
would
be.
Also
every
room
would
have
a
wall
itself,
but
it
may
be
at
a
lesser
compaction
than
the
the
c1
units.
A
Yes,
we
do
so.
What
mr.
Malachor
was
indicating
is
that
the
rooms
that
are
shown
in
green
in
the
plan
have
a
higher
standard
not
only
of
construction
but
also
of
HVAC
equipment
in
terms
of
odor
control.
The
rest
of
the
facility,
as
is
shown
in
the
plans,
will
have
the
spray
cell
foam
insulation
completely
around
the
perimeter
and
in
the
ceiling,
so
that
it
too
is
sealed
off
as
well.
One
of
the
other
things
that
we
are
requiring
as
a
condition
of
approval
is
an
additional
airlock
on
the
east
side
of
the
building.
F
There's
there's
two
demising
walls
right
there.
The
wall
that
separates
this
unit
from
the
other
unit,
yes,
and
and
when
we've
done
box
and
box
in
the
past.
To
my
recollection,
is
the
whole.
You
was
a
box
and
we
acquired
the
whole
unit
to
be
kind
of
reboxed.
If
you
want
to
use
that
term
so
that
there
was
a
new
stud
wall
up
against
the
demising
wall,
with
sealed
sheetrock
along
those
walls
around
the
whole
perimeter
of
the
rental
unit.
Not
you
not
just
certain.
F
O
F
O
F
F
O
A
Let
me
joke
in
their
type,
six
is
a
non-volatile
extraction
process,
and
so,
unlike
the
volatile
extraction,
it's
non
combustible
materials.
Typically,
it's
a
cold
water
extraction
process
or
some
type
of
a
press
type
in
is
the
infusion
and
that
Jermel
actor
is
what
you're
talking
about
in
terms
of
basically
cooking
the
cannabinoid
oils
with
food
products
such
as
brownies,
gummies,
etc.
So
n
is
infusion
type.
F
O
In
the
building
itself
yeah,
this
is
the
only
type
seven
that's
in
the
building.
There
is
a
cultivation
facility,
that's
approved,
there's
a
dispensary,
a
distribution
facility,
a
type
n
that
was
approved
recently,
so
there's
a
place
that
does
gummies
and
candies
and
baked
baking,
and
some
of
the
units
are
non
operational
as
at
this
time.
F
O
Well,
I
think
cultivation
is
at
times
can
produce
more,
more
smells
or
odors
than
than
other
processes.
But
to
go
back
to
your
question
about
where,
in
the
city
we
have
other
type
7s,
there's
one
other
type,
7,
that's
a
proven
operating
out
in
McLean
tracked
out
in
the
north
end
of
town
and
there's
also
another
one
that
was
approved,
a
new
Hall
Street
in
the
north
end
of
town,
but
that
is
not
operating
yet.
O
G
N
C
N
G
C
I
have
some
questions
and
they
will
be
for
staff
and
also
for
Jim
priests
for
staff.
The
entire
report
was
geared
toward
odor,
but
this
has
combustible
substances
and
there
was
no
report
about
how
the
volatile
substances
would
be
contained,
nor
nothing
in
the
report
about
the
wisdom
of
putting
a
volatile
substance
into
a
facility
with
several
other
substances,
and
even
though
that
and
so
what
my
first
question
is.
Where
is
the
report
about
the
containment
of
the
volatile
substances
and
how
dangerous
is
this
and
how?
How
are
you
requiring
it
to
be
contained
so.
O
The
when
the
project
comes
in
to
the
planning
office,
it's
routed
to
our
fire
department
and
they
do
an
analysis
based
upon
the
plans
that
are
submitted
to
to
the
city
and
one
of
the
conditions
of
approval
on
page
12
of
the
conditions.
There's
an
fire
department,
condition,
14
and
15
that
talks
about
technical
policies
that
the
city
uses
to
evaluate
these.
O
These
types
of
activities,
the
condition
number
14,
has
to
do
with
co2
enrichment
that
is
used
when
they,
the
plants
when
they're
doing
cultivation
that
it
enhances
the
the
grow
facility
and
then
their
condition.
Number
15
is
plant
processing
a
distraction
and
that
technical
policy
would
look
at
how
the
chemicals
and
combustible
materials
are
contained
and
and
used,
though
they
don't
do
a
thorough
analysis
of
that
until
they
actually
submit
the
construction
documents
and
they
would
review
it
at
that
time.
So
that
technical
policy
is
available
on
the
city
website
under
the
fire
department
webpage.
A
A
G
You
I
had
with
their
application
a
complete
operational
plan,
so
anytime
they're
doing
manufacturing.
That
plan
includes
how
they're
gonna
store
their
chemicals,
knowing
that
how
they're
going
to
train
their
staff
with
regard
to
handling
it.
So
there
is
extensive
information
that
was
provided
with
the
original
application.
That's
reviewed.
C
Thank
you
and
then
my
question
for
the
planning
director
or
the
city
attorney,
has
to
go.
It
has
to
do
with
the
co
P,
since
this
is
the
C
of
P
and
what
our
purview
is
I
know
the
Commission
in
the
last
several
was
very
careful
not
to
have
not
to
approve
volatile
extraction
with
the
other
applications
that
we
approved
and
is
it
within
our
purview.
G
G
I
do
not
believe
that
in
of
itself
would
be
a
basis
to
deny,
because
that
was
a
policy
decision
made
by
the
City
Council.
With
regard
to
distance
requirements,
however,
and
get
there's
additional
information
about
the
hazardous
material,
the
Planning
Commission
believes
could
not
be
mitigated
by
the
conditions
and
our
technical
specifications.
You
could
deny
on
that
basis.
I
hope
that
made
sense.
Thank
you.
It.
G
J
G
M
L
Substantially
complies
with
the
new
standards
that
were
recently
adopted
where
it
does
not
is
in
the
equipment
being
located
out
of
the
envelope
of
the
building.
It's
just
for
this
building
and
many
buildings
moving
forward.
It
just
won't
be
economically
feasible
to
do
something
like
that.
So
it
does.
It
does
meet
the
standards
for
the
original
order
requirements
and
it
substantially
meets
the
standards
for
the
new
ones.
L
Volatile
solvents
used
in
the
cannabis
extraction
process
are
butane,
propane,
pentane,
hexane,
things
of
that
nature,
we're
familiar
with
those
products
having
an
odour,
but
those
that
odor
is
added
for
safety
reasons,
because
that's
got
that's
that
product
is
used
in
its
gaseous
form.
The
product
being
used
here
is
going
to
be
used
in
its
liquid
form.
It
is
not
you
know,
it
is
not
in
a
gaseous
format.
It
is
under
pressure
put
into
the
columns,
it
is
under
pressure
removed
and
it
does
not
discharge
the
atmosphere
so.
L
No
there's
there's
a
nominal
efficiency
gap
for
any
any
extraction
equipment
they
operated
about
98%
efficiency,
so
those
leftover
materials
are
off
gas
per
code
and
for
the
requirements
and
that's
what
C
1
D
1
and
C
1
D
2
rooms
are
for
there
to
be
built
to
a
specific
requirement.
So
no
it
is
not.
The
intent
of
the
building
is
not
to
off
gas
odors
off
gas
odorous
gases.
There
should
be
no
gas
coming
out
of
the
system
because.
E
F
L
We
did
that
because
moving
forward
decisions
could
be
made
by
applicants
whether
or
not
buildings
were
applicable
for
a
cannabis
project
or
not,
based
on
the
financial
burden
placed
upon
them
and
the
reason
taking
advantage
of
that
fact
that
we
would
have
a
opportunity
to
reset
the
rules
and
protect
the
citizens
and
the
opera.
Hence
we
decided
to
make
sure
that
moving
in
the
equipment
that
moves
the
air,
given
that
it
has
an
allowable
leakage
rate
by
industry
standards
was
the
prudent
thing
to
do.
F
F
L
L
A
L
L
F
You
told
us
that
it's
better
to
put
the
Sam
and
its
associated
mechanical
equipment
within
the
envelope
of
the
building.
It's
better
to
do
that,
but
you're
saying
in
this
particular
building.
It's
somehow
cost
prohibitive
to
do
that
and
I'm
trying
to
understand
what
makes
it
cost
prohibitive
to
do
that
and
if
that's
really
how
we
as
the
Commission,
want
to
judge
the
adequacy
of
the
odor
control
in
this
building.
I.
F
A
Chair,
if
I
could
just
jump
in
here,
I
think
the
critical
thing
that
we
need
to
understand
from
the
city's
odor
control
consultant
is
does
the
plan
that
was
submitted
to
the
city
conformed
to
our
requirements
and
will
the
plan
as
submitted
and
approved,
reduce
impacts
or
eliminate
impacts
from
odor
I?
Think.
That's
really
the
question
that
the
Planning
Commission
needs
to
understand.
A
C
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
I
found.
The
data
very
enlightening
to
the
odor
control
consultant
is
the
positioning
of
the
mechanical
equipment
that
you
were
just
talking
about
less
about
odor
control
and
more
about
aesthetics
of
future
building
design
that
the
city
adopted
as
part
of
its
new
ordinance?
Is
it
really
unrelated
to
odor
control
and
more
about
the
look
and
feel
of
a
building.
L
M
And
I
think
the
meaningful
mission
of
her
spine
was
asking
was:
are
we
not
honoring
the
the
intent
of
the
current
ordinance
if
we
were
to
grant
this
current
CEP
and
I'm
I'm,
not
fully
sure
if
I
understand
that's,
why
I'm
asking
again,
are
we
honoring
the
intent
of
the
current
ordinance?
If
we
we've
been
at
this
current
application,
I.
L
Believe
so,
I
led
this
with
saying
that
they
substantially
met
the
requirements
of
the
new
requirements
while
meeting
all
of
the
requirements
of
the
existing
ones
they're
held
too
so,
yes,
I,
think
in
good
faith.
This
I
think
this
in
good
faith
does
meet
substantially
the
requirements
of
the
new
ones.
L
I
can
speak
to
both
of
those.
Yes,
quite
often,
multiple
licenses
are
packaged
in
one
building
vertical
operation
and
vertical
integration
is
quite
often
one
of
the
best
ways
for
six
pathways
to
success
for
a
cannabis
operation
in
general
for
safety
for
volatile
type,
seven
extraction.
My
company
designs
these
systems.
As
for
a
living
we've
designed
several
in
the
last
several
years,
we
also
act
in
this
capacity
of
them.
There
are
plenty
of
existing
codes
that
govern
the
safety
and
use
of
volatile
solvents,
there's
NFPA,
30
and
a
38.
L
These
are
well
established,
codes
that
have
been
around
for
decades.
This
is
is
not
a
new
new
use
for
volatile
solvents.
It
just
happens
to
be
a
new
application
for
it
in
this
industry,
but
generally,
these
are
safe
systems,
they're,
they're,
verified
and
avert
third
party.
By
a
separate
engineer,
the
the
extraction
equipment
is
evaluated
separately
by
a
third
party
engineer.
They
go
through
comprehensive
reviews
for
the
fire
department,
they're
held
to
adopted
standards
nationally
and
state,
and
obviously
all
local
standards,
so
we
believe,
they're
safe.
We
designed
them
they're
alarmed
on
multiple
levels.
L
D
C
C
D
C
C
You
very
much
okay.
If
there
are
no
more
questions,
we
will
go
to
the
public
hearing.
The
applicant
has
five
minutes
to
ten
minutes
to
present,
and
then
members
of
the
public
can
speak,
they
will
have
three
minutes
and
then
the
applicant
will
have
three
minutes
for
rebuttal
and
if
the
applicant
would
stay
available
after
rebuttal,
there
may
be
questions
from
the
Commission.
O
D
G
J
P
P
Hello,
my
name
is
Michael
Wong
and
I'll,
be
presenting
nature's
healing
conditional
use,
permit
presentation,
we
are
seeking
a
manufacturing
and
distribution
license
within
an
m1
zone.
Our
team
brings
a
wealth
of
experience
both
to
Palm
Springs,
as
well
as
the
cannabis
marketplace.
Adam
Chanel
is
going
to
say
would
be
six
funds
for
sizable
increase.
C
G
P
Of
the
most
prominent
cannabis
companies
in
California,
people's
cannabis
company
has
won
numerous
awards
and
boasts
the
largest
store
in
California
jamika
Barnum
has
owned
and
operated
one
of
the
first
medicinal
cannabis
locations
in
the
world
when
medicinal
cannabis
was
legalized
in
California,
heaven
on
earth
was
opened
in
Los
Angeles
and
ran
successfully
throughout
Stephens
oversight.
There
are
several
things
to
consider
in
regards
to
our
type
seven
manufacturing
license.
P
The
first
will
be
our
C
1,
D,
1
and
C
1
D
2
safety
rooms,
then
our
ETS
extraction
unit,
our
volatile
substance,
storage
and
our
operation
and
safety.
This
will
also
offer
numerous
benefits
to
the
community.
Our
C
1
D,
1
and
C
1
D
2
safety
rooms
feature
several
safety
features
that
make
them
completely
safe.
They
have
3
hour
rated
walls
are
checked
by
the
fire
marshal
and
follow
up
stringent
codes.
They
have
unique
lighting,
fixtures,
sprinkler
systems
and
air
exhaust
cleaning
systems.
P
That
exchange
all
of
the
air
in
the
space
warning
systems
and
alarms
ensure
that
those
entering
the
rooms
and
working
within
these
spaces
are
protected.
These
are
small
rooms
that
cover
a
square
footage
of
461.
We
would
like
to
emphasize
the
size
of
these
spaces
in
respect
to
our
over
4,000
square
foot
facility.
This
is
because
we
are
a
distribution
minded
company
and
that
this
is
a
feature
of
vertical
integration.
P
Our
extraction
units
are
made
by
ETS
a
Colorado
based
manufacturer
in
business,
since
2011
all
components
are
american-made,
steel
and
all
machines
exceed
all
certification
standards.
They
are
psi
asme
and
ul,
compliant
as
well
as
being
certified
by
NSF
for
food
safety.
This
company
also
licenses
operators
and
provide
safety
courses
for
these
operators.
Another
reason
why
we
chose
ETS
was
due
to
the
fact
that
the
city
has
already
given
approvals
for
their
machines
with
over
15
ets
extraction
units
and
Palm
Springs.
We
knew
we
were
choosing
the
right
equipment.
P
Our
solvent
substance
storage
has
been
made
to
comply
with
all
city
regulations.
These
tanks
are
stored
within
our
building
in
a
special
containment
unit.
Far
from
any
workspace
the
substances
we
will
be
using
our
propane
be
obtained
and
ethanol.
These
can
all
be
found
throughout
the
community,
at
propane,
filling
and
Recycling
locations,
gas
stations
and
within
our
gaps
lines.
These
solvents
are
not
dangerous
when
treated
with
care.
For
this
reason,
we
are
taking
our
operation
and
safety
very
seriously.
We
will
have
an
industry
expert
certified
by
ETS
running
all
of
our
machines
I'm.
P
The
manager
of
this
process
we'll
have
one
to
two
assistants,
depending
on
the
quantity
of
work
being
done,
eyewear
and
safety
equipment
will
be
used
and
we
will
be
providing
any
safety
measure
requested
by
staff
now
or
in
the
future.
Further
we
will
be
going
above
and
beyond
to
meet
the
hazmat
and
overprotective
guidelines,
as
well
as
the
CI
h,
&
CA
IH
standards.
P
There
are
several
unique
community
benefits
to
having
a
type
7
volatile
manufacturing
license
within
the
city.
For
us,
this
provides
specific
benefits
to
our
neighbors
in
the
one
to
five
one
one
salvo
business
complex,
the
small
operators
within
this
space
will
rely
on
us
to
cut
costs
and
compete
with
larger
cannabis
businesses.
A
type
7
manufacturer
is
able
to
produce
crude
oil
a
necessary
component
in
the
manufacturing
process.
A
type
6
business
will
need
to
purchase
this
crude
oil
in
order
to
complete
their
manufacturing
process
and
produce
to
finish
cannabis
products.
P
We
can
supply
our
neighboring
type
6
operator
with
a
greatly
reduced
in
price
crude
oil
that
they
need
in
order
to
compete
in
the
overall
marketplace.
In
addition
to
this,
Canada's
cultivators
and
palms
we'll
be
able
to
sell
us
their
turn.
This
is
a
byproduct
of
the
cannabis
cultivation
process
term
contains
parts
of
the
cannabis
plant
that
are
not
used
for
recreational
consumption
because
of
their
low
terpene
counts.
We
can
take
this
biomass
and
create
finished
cannabis,
distillates
further
reducing
waste
because
cannabis
cultivators
will
no
longer
have
to
dispose
of
their
trim.
P
This
segues
directly
into
our
next
topic
of
discussion,
our
order,
control
plan
and
considerations,
the
City
Council
and
active
districtÃs
policy
for
odor
control
in
the
world.
This
recent
change
is
something
that
we
adamantly
agree
with.
We've
watched
City
Council
meetings
to
ensure
that
we
understood
what
the
council
and
residents
were
seeking
to
achieve
with
these
new
policies.
We
believe
strongly,
as
do
the
experts
that
worked
with
us
to
develop
our
plan
that
we
have
the
most
comprehensive
odor
control
plan
in
the
world.
Een
thousand
made
a
very
important
statement
that
adequately
surmises
odor
control.
P
He
described
the
difference
between
a
plan
and
a
requirement.
A
requirement
ensures
that
locations
follow
their
plans
and
implement
them.
We
find
it
very
unfortunate
that
businesses
have
not
followed
their
plans
or
put
time
into
developing
a
working
solution
to
any
odor
issues.
For
this
reason,
we
have
developed
a
plan
that
we
think
can
be
adopted
by
other
cannabis
operators
in
order
to
fulfill
their
own
requirements
in
our
building,
we've
created
several
box
within
a
box
spaces,
as
well
as
simple
policies
that
ensure
no
odor
leakages.
P
All
walls
are
enclosed
by
a
box
within
a
box.
The
yellow
line
surrounding
our
building
indicates
the
first
box
within
a
box
sealed
walls.
There
are
further
red
lines
indicating
other
rooms
that
are
also
box
within
a
box
areas.
These
areas
have
been
chosen
to
have
box
within
a
box
walls
due
to
their
exposure
to
high
quantities
of
cannabis.
Both
are
C,
1,
D,
1
and
C
1
D
2
rooms,
as
well
as
our
quarantine,
vault
and
secure
storage,
will
feature
this
odor
control
protection.
P
P
You
can
also
see
how
every
room
is
treated
with
urban
grows,
unique
odor
control
systems.
There
are
five
individual
exhausts
located
on
the
roof.
This
multi
exit
system
ensures
that
there
is
no
way
an
odor
issue
can
be
present.
Any
single
failure
within
our
space
will
leave
for
other
exhausts
still
working.
When
the
issue
is
detected,
we
will
quickly
identify
it
fix
it
and
continue
operations
without
ever
leaving
an
odor
control
issue
for
our
community.
Our
odor
control
systems
and
their
placement
within
our
facility
is
key
to
our
plan.
P
The
most
notable
aspects
of
this
is
the
odor
control
systems.
At
every
entry
point
of
the
space,
there
is
an
immediate
system
at
the
entryway
door
to
ensure
no
odor
leakage
continuing
into
the
first
room.
There
are
two
exhaust
pipes
cleaning
the
air.
This
ensures
the
entry
room
is
completely
odor
free
when
any
door
opens
to
the
outside
before
any
cannabis
product
is
opened.
It
must
continue
through
another
clean
room
that
has
another
two
exhaust
pipes:
cleaning
the
room.
P
B
The
unit
turns
on
it
produces
ionized
hydrogen
peroxide
molecules
which
are
distributed
to
every
cubic
foot
of
air
in
your
entire
home.
Every
time
an
ionized
hydrogen
peroxide
comes
into
contact
with
bacteria
viruses,
mold
spores,
VOCs
and
odor.
It
quickly
breaks
down
and
destroys
the
air
quality
contaminants
on
the
spot.
The
system
also
passes
a
charge
off
to
all
the
dust,
dander
pollen
and
particulates
in
the
air
which
causes
them
to
stick
together.
That
increase
in
size
will
make
your
existing
filter
equipment
more
efficient
at
capturing.
P
These
particles,
an
example
of
this
technology
working
successfully,
can
be
found
in
Winslow
Arizona,
where
a
company
called
the
medicine
room
successfully
utilized
urban
growth
technology
to
expand
their
grow
operation
into
a
15,000
square
foot
facility.
That
is
completely
complaint.
Free
and
odor
free
like
to
thank
you
for
listening
to
our
presentation
and
to
surmise
all
the
reasons
to
approve.
We
are
in
compliance
with
all
ordinances
for
an
m1
zone.
We
are
complying
with
zero
tolerance
for
odor.
Our
odor
control
has
multiple
rooms
within
a
room.
P
We
will
have
created
several
jobs
in
a
post,
corona
economic
environment.
We
will
be
spending
an
estimated
2.5
million
dollars
in
our
project
and
we
will
be
creating
a
symbiotic
relationship
with
other
building
tenants
and
businesses
as
a
type
7
operator.
This
concludes
our
presentation
for
our
conditional
use.
Permit.
We
welcome
you
to
ask
us
any
questions
about
our
odor
control
plan,
manufacturing
plan
or
any
other
aspect
of
our
business.
We
have
several
experts
ready
to
address
any
of
your
concerns
or
questions,
and
we
look
forward
to
operating
within
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
A
C
I
J
I
I
Throughout
my
seven
years,
working
in
cannabis,
I've
successfully
developed
a
proven
network
of
reliable
cannabis
suppliers
and
professionals
from
all
facets
of
the
supply
chain
which
I
will
use
to
organically
expand
our
distribution
network.
My
job
for
nature's
healing
is
to
use
my
industry
expertise
to
ensure
that
we
exclusively
work
with
top-notch
people
and
products
to
provide
the
best
quality
for
our
customers.
It's
been
my
absolute
highest
priority
to
assemble
the
best
team
possible
and
I'm
wise
enough
to
also
include
some
non
cannabis
related
professionals
as
part
of
our
team
as
well.
I
Our
team
consists
of
Adam
is
a
very
experienced
operator
that
I
know
and
trust
Steve,
who
has
extensive
experience
and
licensing
regulations,
Bruce
who's,
the
ex-vice
president
for
Johnson,
&
Johnson,
and
an
expert
dealing
with
regulation,
distribution
and
compliance
and
Mike
who
attended,
Oxford
and
we'll
be
bringing
technical
systems
as
our
chief
of
staff.
So
more
about
the
business
at
our
core
we're
a
distribution
company.
Our
primary
focuses
will
be
sales,
transport,
packaging,
retail,
business,
consulting
and
brand
placement.
I
We
understand
the
distribution,
the
distribution
market
is
saturated,
so
we
believe
that
we
must
dynamically
in
ourselves
for
success
and
diversity,
fire
services
by
also
obtaining
a
type
seven
manufacturing
license.
So
we
are
primarily
focused
on
distribution,
but
the
type
seven
license
gives
us
the
ability
to
create
a
complete
menu
of
cannabis
products
which
is
critical
for
our
success.
So
we
understand
the
city's
concerns
about
odor
and
we
have
embraced
a
comprehensive
and
proactive
approach
to
resolving
all
of
the
relevant
requests,
and
you
know
I'm,
just
thankful
for
you
guys
hearing
this
out
appreciate
it.
J
K
You,
my
name,
is
our
Dean
Thompson
I'm
care
person
for
the
escena
neighborhood
organization.
Thank
you
for
accepting
my
call
this
evening.
You
will
be
considering
granting
a
CEP
to
nature's
healing
on
Mantova
way
type,
seven
manufacturing
for
cannabis.
This
manufacturing
method,
as
you
know,
uses
ethanol,
which
is
a
highly
volatile
substance.
K
A
conditional
use
permit
would
purposely
locate
a
hazardous
manufacturing
facility
within
700
feet
of
homes
within
820
feet
of
a
special
learning
school
and
within
a
half
a
mile
of
a
scenic
community
on
December
4th
2019,
the
Palm
Spring
City
Council
created
the
Green
Zone
along
the
I-10
corridor
and
stipulated
that
cultivation
and
type
7
manufacture
be
located
there
to
avoid
this
very
risk
to
life
and
property.
Nature's
healing
application
is
grandfathered
in
under
the
obsolete
elation.
K
We
are
now
considering
setting
aside
that
decision
and
putting
families,
children
and
private
property
in
danger
because
of
the
date
on
the
application.
I
read
the
entire
staff
report,
and
yet
I
did
not
see
any
information
regarding
safety
measures
that
will
be
built
into
the
requirements
for
this
cannabis
business
to
be
granted
a
Cu
key
with
the
possibility
of
an
explosion
due
to
the
volatility
of
the
chemical
mix.
They
are
proposing.
K
What
are
the
plans
to
avert
such
an
emergency
I
am
particularly
concerned
about
this,
because
Palm
Springs
is
facing
significant
budget
cuts
that
will
undoubtedly
affect
our
fire,
EMT
and
Police
Department,
because
this
cannabis
business
is
so
close
to
several
residents.
I
do
not
feel
that
the
U
P
should
be
granted
at
this
time.
Cannabis
type.
K
Seven
manufacturing
really
belongs
in
the
Green
Zone
near
the
I-10
corridor,
as
our
current
zoning
codes
required
grandfathering
in
a
types
of
and
cannabis
operation
and
granting
a
Cu
P
is
a
tremendous
risk,
while
the
city
may
be
indemnified
by
the
business.
I
am
NOT,
confident
that
the
minimum
insurance
repair
requirements
could
possibly
cover
the
damage,
injury
and
potential
loss
of
life
from
the
potential
explosion.
Type
seven
manufacturing
also
has
the
potential
for
producing
cannabis
odors
that
can
permeate
our
neighborhood
and
again,
with
the
budget
cuts
they're
coming
shortly.
K
Will
Palm
Springs
be
in
a
position?
They
have
code
enforcement
people
work
24/7
to
respond
to
odor
violations
by
granting
a
Cu
pika
nature's
healing
you
are
promoting
employees
residents
and
to
schools,
along
with
other
nearby
industrial
operations
at
risk
because
of
the
proximity
of
this
enterprise.
Please
consider
all
the
ramifications
of
your
vote
for
your
citizens
and
neighbors
who
live,
attend
school
and
work
within
the
shadow
of
this
proposed
health
or
just
manufacturing
plant.
Thank
you.
Thank.
J
Hello,
yes,
hello
is
this:
mr.
Aguilar
yeah
hi
I'm
calling
from
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
here,
live
at
the
Planning
Commission
meeting
here
to
take
your
public
testimony
and
if
you
can
just
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
we'll
start
your
three
minute
period.
Public
comment
period
starting
now:
okay,.
L
H
Commissioners,
thank
you
for
your
time.
I'm
gonna
just
cut
to
the
chase
on
this
thing.
You
know
we
acquired
this
building
in
an
m1
zone.
We
specifically
looked
at
the
ingress
and
egress
to
this
property.
There's
only
one
way
going
into
this
property.
We
checked
and
verified
all
setback
requirements
that
were
in
place
at
the
time
that
we
submitted
the
licensing
there's
a
sheet
which
was
included
in
the
package
we
submitted.
It
shows
distances
from
other
warehouses.
We
are
far
better
setback
than
just
about
anything.
H
It's
been
approved
before
the
wind
chart,
which
was
also
submitted,
shows
that
the
wind
goes
from
north
to
south.
The
scene
is
a
half
mile
away,
there's
cannabis,
warehouses
all
over
the
place
that
are
within
400
feet
of
residential,
so
we
far
exceed
anything,
that's
already
approved
and
in
process
right
now
this
particular
buildings
had
a
substantial
amount
of
upgrades
done
to
it,
and
this
particular
applicant
is,
you
know:
we've
done
a
substantial
job
in
regards
to
the
box
of
the
box.
H
The
urban
Grove
facility
air
systems
are
putting
in
there,
they've
got
their
parking
and
loadings
within
the
building
itself,
which
is
you
know,
square
footage
that
they're
losing
to
make
sure
they
contain
the
odor
within
the
box
within
a
box
they've
gone
above
and
beyond,
and
almost
every
project
that's
already
been
approved
in
the
city.
In
fact,
the
four
most
recent
projects
I
think
you
did
with
this
exact
same
system,
exact
same
box,
their
box,
the
exact
same
actual
urban,
grow
filtration
system
as
far
as
safety
and
everything.
H
This
thing
is
highly
governed
by
the
fire
department
and
when,
in
plan
check,
the
fire
department
will
have
extensive
input
in
regards
to
the
volatility
aspect
towards
of
the
chemicals
and
everything
related
to
those
see,
once
you
see
one
be
two
rooms.
This
is
not
something
that's
going
to
slide
by.
This
is
something
that
they
take
very
seriously,
and
this
process
of
essential
oils
has
been
done
for
hundreds
of
years
with
all
different
types
of
oils
and
stuff
that
are
already
out
in
stores
that
aren't
even
cannabis
related.
So
it's
not
a
unique
system.
H
It
hasn't
been
around
for
a
short
period
of
time.
It's
been
around
for
a
long
time.
This
particular
operator
is
very
well
schooled
in
his
business
practices
and
solve
a
team
of
them
and
I
think
that
we
exceed
the
city's
expectation
by
a
longshot
and
the
the
equivalent
when
you're
talking
about
you
know
the
fire
hazards.
The
lady
just
mentioned
a
minute
ago.
H
This
is
the
last
than
the
hazards
of
being
next
to
a
gas
station
or
even
Home
Depot,
where
you
get
poke
pain,
tanks,
sit
down
in
front
of
the
store
in
the
Sun
and
people
walking
by
smoking
and
everything
else.
This
is
a
whole
different
level.
It's
contained
within
a
bomb
shelter.
Basically,
so
the
risk
factor
is
little
to
none
and
as
far
as
the
owner
of
this
building,
my
partner
have
been
going
by
this.
H
The
building
twice
a
week,
there's
no
way
that
we're
gonna
get
an
older
control
plant
before
we
would
hear
about
at
first,
and
we
are
all
over
it
the
tenants,
so
we
have
done
everything
we
possibly
can
to
meet
every
guideline
and
I
believe
that
we've
deeded
the
current
guidelines.
So
we
look
forward
to
any
comments
and
we'll
hopefully
get
on
profile
here.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
J
Q
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Ellen
Tarina
and
I
live
in
Athena
I
provided
a
more
detailed
email
for
your
packet,
which
I
hope
all
of
you
have
had
a
chance
to
review.
I
am
strongly
opposed
to
a
type
seven
volatile
extraction.
Cannabis
grow
manufacturing
facility
at
1251
Montalvo.
First
of
all,
it
is
too
close
to
residential
neighborhoods
and
schools
for
the
dangers
associated
with
such
volatility.
Q
Second,
the
city
has
adopted
and
promised
24/7
coverage
of
a
zero
odor
mandate,
but
so
far
has
been
unable
to
execute
it
successfully.
Desert
Highlands
and
DeMuth
Park
continue
to
struggle
with
unresolved
odor
issues.
How
can
you
conscientiously
approve
to
subject
additional
neighborhoods
to
such
issues?
Also,
an
extreme
cannabis.
Odor
issue
was
reported
to
code
compliance
by
inesita
resident
on
the
evening
of
May
1st,
but
there
was
no
follow-up
until
the
next
day.
Q
Q
She
actually
illustrated
my
point
exactly
the
fact
that
we
don't
have
somebody
that
can
come
out
when
a
complaint
is
made.
Having
somebody
come
out
the
following
day
or
probably
worse
in
most
cases,
does
no
good
nobody's
gonna
be
able
to
tell
where
anything
is
coming
from
so
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
I
look
forward
to
your
vote
on
this.
Thank
you.
Thank.
Q
J
P
H
Hello
commissioners,
thank
you
for
your
time
and
I
hope
all
are
well
and
safe
out
there
with
the
whole
kovat
issue
going
on.
My
name
is
Adam
Shindell
I'll,
be
on-site
operations,
manager,
overseeing
productivity,
quality
maintenance,
inventory
and
overall
safety
of
the
facility.
I
have
been
involved
in
legal
cannabis
industry
for
six
years
operating
under
strict
2/15
guidelines
in
2008,
I
became
an
Operations
Manager
for
people's
Cathedral
City
manufacturing
laboratory.
H
During
my
time
with
people's
no
violations
were
cited
and
no
injuries
or
safety
issues
or
odor
complaints
reported
highlighted,
highlighting
my
understanding
of
volatile
manufacturing
process.
I
have
been
certified
by
extraction
tech
solutions,
ETS
for
machine
operation,
extraction,
tech
solutions,
xc70
meets
and
exceeds
all
requirements
for
volatile
manufacturing
compliance.
Palm
Springs
currently
has
15
of
these
units
approved
and
operating
in
city
limits.
H
We
will
also
be
working
closely
with
Palm
Springs
disposal
services
to
dispose
of
any
ways
from
process
in
an
environmentally
friendly
matter
where
a
bioactive
solution
is
introduced
to
reduce
odor
and
decompose
waste,
I'm,
confident
with
all
necessary
precautions
and
safety
measures
taken
into
consideration,
we
will
be
a
flagship
for
type
seven
facilities.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration.
If
you
have
any
questions,
please
feel
free
to
ask.
C
H
C
H
H
You
know,
as
far
as
that
goes
and
I
would
go
to
a
preoperative
checklist,
which
includes
checking
fluids,
checking
electric
boxes,
checking
for
any
kind
of
leaks
cracks
where
throughout
the
system
includes.
You
know
the
killing
unit
heating
unit
extraction
unit,
the
distillation
units.
You
know
each
operator
having
their
own
checklist
that
will
then
be
signed
off
by
the
on-site
manager.
H
C
C
N
H
N
H
Okay,
so
the
system
will
in
each
room
will
have
a
a.
H
H
You
know
you'd
be
looking
for
scuff
marks,
I
mean
the
system
is
basically
a
stainless
steel,
so
there's
really
nothing
really
to
go
wrong
other
than
you
know,
gaskets,
where
we
will
be
visually
inspecting
those
after
each
use
and
furthermore
so
I
mean,
as
far
as
you
know,
visually
it's
pretty
apparent.
If
we
have
an
issue
and
if
we
have
a
you
know
a
major
leak
or
anything
like
that,
alarm
will
definitely
let
us
know.
H
H
You
know
that
that
would
be
a
question
for
Michael
or
one
of
those
guys
I'm,
not
overly
sure
who's.
You
know
on
site,
I'm
sure
we're
gonna
have
a
24/7
security
there
overseeing.
You
know
everything
going
on,
but
furthermore
I'm
not
sure
who
is
gonna
be
reviewing
videotapes
and
I'm
sure
there
wouldn't
be
any
kind
of
reviewing
unless
we
had
an
issue.
N
H
M
B
The
City
Council
made
the
decision
to
allow
these
types
of
operations
to
be
grandfathered
in
they
made
that
decision
and
apparently
from
what
we
heard
from
Flynn.
We
have
to
follow
the
zoning
and
the
ordinance
that
existed
at
the
time.
I
feel
comfortable
that
the
odor
control
consultants,
expertise
is
sufficient
with
the
box
within
a
box
and
that
the
odors
will
be
contained.
I
don't
sounds
like
there
is
no
more
state
of
the
art
approach
to
this
sort
of
thing.
B
So
I
feel
confident
about
that
regarding
the
volatile
chemicals
and
the
fire
department,
that
is
their
job,
is
to
review
plans
to
make
sure
that
these
explosions
and
other
things
either
don't
happen.
And/Or
are
contained
so
I
actually
don't
see
any
reason
why,
under
what
circumstances
we
could
deny
this.
E
Have
to
agree
with
my
fellow
Commissioner,
we
would
see
none
of
us
like
this
nervous,
like
that,
we
were
put
in
a
position
where
we
had
to,
but
we
have
to
approve
these
particular
kinds
of
operations
which
more
likely
than
not
will
produce
odor,
but
it
is
the
law.
I,
don't
see
any
way
under
the
controlling
zoning
law
or
law
regarding
these
types
of
facilities
that
we
could
turn
this
down.
E
I
think
this
particular
applicant
has
been
a
very
good
job
of
mitigating
potential
odor
issues
with
respect
to
the
vulture
volatility
of
the
chemicals
and
potential
safety
issues,
I
think
we
have
to
rely
on
the
fire
department
to
make
sure
that,
with
respect
to
potential
fires
and
other
types
of
disasters
they
will
they
will
make
them
comply
with
what
the
city
requires.
All
type
manufacturers
to
do
so
I
see
no
reason
not
to
approve
this
application.
N
I
am
also
an
agreement
where
I'm
more
interested
is
on
the
ongoing
inspection
and
accountability,
and
that
will
be
the
conditions
that
I
would
like
to
develop
with
my
fellow
commissioners
with
the
challenges
of
carbon
19
that
we're
all
going
to
go
through.
How
do
we
ensure
that
the
building
is
running
properly
as
to
what
is
concerning,
and
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
clarified?.
F
G
This
one
kind
of
things
like
you
know,
city
council,
it's
kind
of
decided
a
little
bit
on
you
know
what
we
can
deal
with
these.
These
are
in
grandfathered
in
and
it's
just
kind
of
you
know,
there's
nothing
that
really
we
can,
you
know
see
our
dual
to
make
any
change,
so
I
also
will
will
be
green
with
Doug
and
also
Peter
with
you
know,
approving
this
project.
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I
really
enjoyed
the
conversation
tonight
and
I
learned
a
lot
and
I
read
every
single
couple
that
was
submitted
to
us
officially,
so
I
really
understand
when
residents
are
frustrated
with
the
concept
of
grandfathering
and
properties,
but
the
council,
in
their
wisdom,
made
that
determination
when
they
wrote
their
new
policy,
and
so
it
really
does
matter
when
a
date
is
decided
when
something
can
or
can't
happen.
In
this
case,
it's
clear
that
the
applicant
does
meet
the
date.
M
Requirements
is
grandfathered
in
and
therefore
this
is
a
fair
use
of
public
property
and
it
actually
is
in
line
with
all
the
adjacent
tenants
within
the
same
building,
and
maybe
if
it
was
an
outlier
within
the
building
itself.
I
might
have
a
tougher
time
with
it,
but
I
feel
like.
It
would
be
arbitrary
for
me
to
vote
against
this
applicant
when
the
city
agrees
that
they
can
form.
M
The
log
reads
that
it
conforms
the
odor
control
control
consultant
agrees
that
it
conforms
and
in
the
issues
of
enforcement
that
I
may
be
concerned
with,
is
not
within
our
purview
as
the
Planning
Commission.
It's
up
to
the
city
manager
and
the
City
Council
to
healthy
the
resources
to
ensure
the
compliance
with
with
this
type
of
business,
and
so
I
will
be
voting
in
favor
of
the
Apple
can
and
I'm
very
much
moved
by
everyone's
comments,
but
I
feel
confident
that
that
this
is
the
right
decision
for
me
to
make
on
this
particular
issue.
M
C
Will
be
voting
against
this
and
for
two
reasons,
I
can't
make
the
second
finding
that
this
is
necessary
and
appropriate
in
this
location.
I
do
think
this
is
a
Cu
P
it.
It
is
a
co
P
where
we
still
have
balance.
We
can
look
that
it
meets
the
requirements,
but
II
and
I
have
no
concerns
about
the
odor
I
think
it
meets
the
same
standards
that
we've
required
of
the
other
applicants
in
the
building.
I
am
concerned
about
the
volatility
and
I'm
concerned
about
the
volatility
given
the
adjacency
to
the
project.
C
I
am
also
I
do
believe.
It's
probably
not
in
our
purview
to
look
at
the
enforcement
aspects,
but
the
enforcement
aspects
have
been
a
problem.
They've
been
a
problem
all
the
way
through
with
the
promise
of
the
city
that
we
would
have
no
odors
and
no
leakage,
and
they
would
be
full
enforcement.
There
really
isn't
enforcement
after
midnight
until
8
a.m.
when
it's
a
minor,
it's
a
minor
matter,
so
I
I
personally
will
not
feel
previous
I.
C
Do
ask
that
if,
if
the
Commission
is
making
motions
that
you
look
seriously
at
the
inspections
both
of
the
carbon
filters
and
also
the
inspections
of
the
volatile
chemicals,
I
think
Maria
song
mentioned
that
I
think
it's
appropriate
in
the
motion.
But
since
I'm
not
making
it
I
won't
add
those
things
myself.
A.
O
Chair,
if
I
could
direct
the
Planning
Commission
to
the
conditions
of
approval,
there
is
a
condition
planning
number
12
on
inspections.
It
says
inspections
of
mechanical
equipment
shall
be
required
at
three
months
six
months
and
then,
after
the
biannual
basis,
by
an
independent
third
party
chosen
by
the
city.
So
we've
added
this
condition
on
other
applications.
E
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
staff
report
on
this
item
and
herring
Thank
You
mr.
marker,
regarding
the
inspection
provisions
in
the
conditions
of
approval
I'm,
not
going
to
add
anything
to
that
I'm,
also
not
good
editing
to
kovac,
because
I,
don't
think
number
one.
It's
in
our
parameter
to
talk
about
health
issues
regarding
the
disease
and,
secondly,
we're
just
beginning
this
I
think
the
city's
going
to
have
to
give
all
of
us
some
direction
about
how
we
deal
with
distancing
masking
and
all
that
we
have
none.
So
we
have
no.
E
N
I
would
be
in
favor,
but
I
would
like
to
offer
a
modification,
and
that
modification
will
be
to
add
the
first
month,
because
this
compared
to
other
facilities
that
we
have
reviewed,
has
the
solvent
processing
issue
and
the
first
month
is
always
critical.
Even
in
construction,
when
all
they're
all
the
equipment
and
the
building
improvement
comes
together
is
during
the
first
month
that
everything
has
to
be
caliber
and
honed
in
I
would.
C
C
F
C
C
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
C
A
Madam
chair
and
members
of
the
Commission,
we
have
an
item
before
you
to
amend
the
city
zoning
code
relative
to
the
standards
for
electric
vehicle
charging
stations.
As
you
may
recall,
earlier
this
year
in
February,
the
Planning
Commission
approved
an
ordinance
amendment
which
stated
that
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
are
permitted,
use
and
also
referenced,
the
California
Green
Building
Standards
code
for
the
installation
of
EVR
geing
spaces.
A
Furthermore,
the
City
Council
recently
adopted
a
resolution
to
adopt
civil
penalties
for
parking
in
a
designated
evie
charging
space
without
being
connected
to
the
charger.
So,
with
these
two
items
in
place,
we
are
ready
to
move
forward
and
actually
adopt
numbers
of
parking
spaces
that
will
be
required
to
have
evie
Chargers.
In
terms
of
our
reference
to
the
Green
Building
Code.
A
It
only
requires
that
evey
charging
spaces
be
pre-wired
for
future
charging
equipment,
and
so
what
that
means
is
it
would
require
property
owners
to
stub
out
the
electrical
connection
for
it,
but
they
wouldn't
be
required
to
install
the
pedestal
or
the
charging
cord.
The
proposed
ordinance
that
you
have
before
you
this
evening
will
require
them
to
install
that
equipment
for
new
non-residential
development,
renovated,
non-residential
development
and
then
new
multifamily
development.
A
Just
by
way
of
background,
there's
a
couple
of
things
to
understand
in
terms
of
the
charging
equipment
for
electric
vehicles,
there's
essentially
three
levels:
level:
one
is
a
120
volt
service.
This
is
typically
what
many
P
we'll
have
it
home
for
charging
their
cars
for
a
standard,
plug-in
hybrid
vehicle
or
for
an
electrical
vehicle.
Its
are
a
fully
electric
vehicle.
It
will
take
between
about
five
hours
to
eight
hours
to
charge
a
car.
The
next
is
level
two
which
is
240
volt
service
for
a
plug-in
hybrid.
A
This
will
take
about
two
and
a
half
hours
to
fully
charge
the
vehicle
for
a
fully
electric
vehicle.
It
will
take
approximately
four
hours
to
fully
charge
it
and
then
the
third
level
is
level
three
which
is
direct
current
fast
charge.
This
is
more
commonly
associated
with
the
Tesla
chargers
that
we
have
available
here
in
the
city
and
elsewhere,
and
that
provides
480
volt
electrical
service
in
terms
of
the
proposed
ordinance,
it
would
require
level
two
or
better,
and
so
that
would
mean
240
volt
electrical
service
in
the
Green
Building
Code.
A
Again,
as
I
had
mentioned,
it
talks
about
only
requiring
that
they
be
pre-wired
and
in
the
Green
Building
Code,
it
does
require
240
volt
electrical
service.
One
of
the
other
things
to
understand-
it's
not
specifically
addressed
here
in
the
proposed
ordinance
is
that
property
owners
can
charge
fees
for
the
use
of
the
equipment.
The
reason
for
that
is,
it
helps
them
to
defray
the
cost
of
installing
the
equipment
and
we
can
get
into
the
cost
if
you'd
like
to
later
on.
In
terms
of
what
that
might
be.
A
There
is
no
limit,
however,
on
the
fees
there's
not
anything.
I
could
find
in
the
California
state
regs
about
the
limits
on
the
fees
that
can
be
charged.
I
will
tell
you
that,
just
from
personal
experience,
what
you
typically
see
for
a
level
2
charger
is
about
2
to
3
dollars
an
hour
and
then
for
the
level
3,
where
there's
a
fee
associated
with
that.
It
will
generally
be
about
10
dollars
an
hour
in
terms
of
what
is
being
proposed
for
the
number
of
chargers
that
would
be
required
for
new
commercial
or
non-residential
construction.
A
One
of
the
things
the
Green
Building
Code
does
not
address
is
when
there
is
a
renovation
or
expansion
of
non
residential
construction.
What
we're
proposing
as
part
of
this
ordinance
is
that
they
must
install
the
evie
charging
equipment
for
any
new
spaces
that
would
be
required.
So,
for
example,
if
you
have
a
commercial
shopping
center
that
is
adding
on
square
footage,
adding
a
new
pad
to
the
site,
they
would
be
required
to
install
evie
charging
spaces
at
the
ratio.
A
In
the
previous
slide
for
only
the
new
spaces,
they
wouldn't
be
required
to
go
back
and
retrofit
any
existing
spaces
for
new
multi-family
residential
construction.
We
are
not
actually
proposing
to
require
the
installation
of
the
equipment,
but
only
that
it
be
pre-wired,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
that,
because
individual
residential
owners
may
not
have
electrical
vehicles,
there
isn't
the
need
to
put
the
equipment
in
until
you
have
a
demand
for
it,
and
so
for
that
reason
we're
only
requiring
that
they
be
pre-wired.
A
N
A
A
The
statistics
that
I
provided
to
you
or
the
summary
of
regulations
from
other
cities,
the
majority
of
those
were
adopted
prior
to
the
adoption
of
the
Green
Building
Code
from
what
I
can
see.
For
example,
Pasadena
has
a
standard
which
is
far
below
what
the
Green
Building
Code
now
requires.
The
only
one
that
I
felt
was
comparable
is
the
city
of
Santa
Cruz.
It
looks
like
their
ordinance
was
done
about
the
same
time
that
the
Green
Building
Code
was
adopted,
and
so
it
does
mirror
the
Green
Building
Code
in
terms
of
the
number
of
spaces.
A
A
M
You,
madam
chair,
then,
if
you
would
just
help
me
with
a
practical
question,
not
the
last
Commission
meeting
but
the
previous
one.
We
looked
at
the
addition
of
a
drive-through
Starbucks
at
the
Albertson
Center
at
Vista
Chino,
and
that
particular
Center
has
I
forget
seven
hundred
eight
hundred
parking
spots
and
there
was
a
small
addition
which
was
a
two
unit
Starbucks
and
under
with
a
drive-through,
and
they
added
about
four
parking
spots
that
were
probably
unnecessary.
But
the
tenant
wanted
it
under
this
rule.
M
M
A
Commissioner
Lewin,
that's
a
very
good
question
to
ask
and
a
good
example
to
select
in
that
particular
instance.
Let's
say
that
for
new
parking
spaces
were
being
added
to
the
development
based
on
the
table
that
we
have
in
the
code.
They
would
only
be
required
to
provide
the
evie
charging
spaces
based
on
the
number
of
new
spaces
being
added
so
on
the
table.
A
If
you
have
less
than
ten
spaces,
you
wouldn't
be
required
to
put
any
evie
charging
spaces
in
so
in
that
instance,
they
wouldn't
be
required
to
install
one
if
they
had,
let's
say
twelve
spaces
that
they
were
adding.
In
addition
to
the
other
800
that
are
in
existence,
we
would
only
be
looking
at
the
twelve
new
spaces
and
they
would
be
required
to
add
one
evie
charging
station.
So
that's
an
example
of
what
we
would
do
for
properties
that
are
renovated
or
expanded.
M
F
Thank
you
playing
director
for
this
I
think
it's
something
that'll
be
a
great
asset
to
the
city
of
being
a
plug-in
user.
Myself
and
I
had
a
question
on
single-family
subdivisions.
B
is
small
lots
of
divisions
or
normal
lots
of
divisions
or
large,
less
subdivisions.
Is
there
a
requirement
for
pre-wiring
those
there.
F
A
F
When
you
say
pre
wire,
when
I
was
going
through
the
process
of
establishing
you
know
if
I
plug
it
in
my
garage
here,
I
had
a
240,
volt
receptacle
placed
on
the
wall
and
then
from
that
I
plugged.
In
this
actual
thing,
I
bought
some
creek
or
whatever
that
place
was
ask
me
a
pre
wire.
Will
that
receptacle
be
in
place?
Yes,.
F
A
Terms
of
how
that
has
worked
out
for
each
multifamily
property-
that's
going
to
be
up
to
either
the
developer
or
the
manager
of
the
apartment
complex.
What
I
would
imagine
is
that
the
evie
charging
spaces
would
not
be
assigned
to
a
specific
unit,
but
rather,
as
property
owners
request
to
have
them,
those
spaces
would
be
then
designated
to
the
property
owner
in
reviewing
the
information
that's
available
for
a
number
of
the
companies
that
make
these
charging
units
available
for
multifamily
properties.
A
F
A
F
F
A
Good
point,
because
you
can't
really
go
the
opposite
direction:
I,
don't
know
that
there's
an
adapter
for
plug-in
hybrids
to
go
to
the
type
three
at
least
I've
not
seen
that.
Yet
what
we
might
want
to
do
is
add
language
that
says
that
there
shall
be
at
least
X
percent
of
the
required
Chargers
level
two
or
something
along
those
lines.
If
you'd
prefer
to
do
that.
F
G
B
You
said
that,
as
relates
to
multi-family
residential,
existing
multi-family
residential
in
some
cases,
if
the
tenant
or
I
guess
condominiums,
if
they
request
to
have
a
station
installed,
I
would
I'm
gonna
try
to
say
if
trying
to
say
so.
Why
don't
we
have
that
as
part
of
the
ordinance
that,
if
any
tenant
or
owner
in
the
multifamily
property
requests
the
installation
of
I
guess
the
equipment
necessary
to
to
you
know
charge
your
car?
Why
don't
we
make
that
a
requirement,
sir?
What
the
cab,
the
owner
can't
say?
No
we're
not
going
to
do
that.
A
Certainly
that
is
something
that
the
Planning
Commission
consider
could
consider
adding
to
this
proposed
ordinance
again.
We
didn't
really
look
at
going
back
and
retrofitting
properties,
but
you
make
a
good
point:
it's
difficult
for
some
owners
of
electric
vehicles
when
they
live
in
apartments,
for
example,
or
older
condominium
complexes
that
it's
not
always
easy
to
find
means
to
charge
your
vehicle.
So
again,
you
could
add
that
language
should
you
choose
to
do
so
and.
B
A
I
think
we
might
need
to
finesse
that
a
little
bit
and
if
that's
the
direction
that
the
Planning
Commission
would
like
to
go.
What
I
might
recommend
is
that
we
continue
this
to
next
month's
meeting,
so
that
way,
I
can
confer
with
our
attorney
in
developing
language
that
helps
to
address
that
situation.
B
Concern
to
me,
because
the
vast
majority
of
multifamily
residential
exists
I
mean
it's.
The
new
the
number
of
new
apartment
buildings
being
constructed
in
Palm
Springs
is
fairly
small
and
I.
Think
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
live
in
apartment,
buildings
and
condominiums.
We
would
like
to
plug
in
an
electric
vehicle
and
not
be
told
they
cannot
yeah.
G
Sorry,
can
you
hear
me
now,
yes,.
C
G
All
right,
I
just
had
a
question.
I
heard
you
mention
about
cost,
and
you
said
you
kind
of
we're
gonna
go
into
it
a
little
bit
later
in
the
presentation.
G
A
Terms
of
residential
installation,
let
me
start
there.
First,
the
only
cost
that
would
typically
apply
to
most
homeowners
is
the
cost
of
the
the
little
box
that
goes
on
your
wall
with
the
cord
I.
Don't
know
the
proper
name
for
that,
and
typically
those
will
run
anywhere
from
about
four
to
six
hundred
dollars.
And
that's
when
you
already
have
the
outlet,
the
240
volt
outlets
in
the
wall,
ready
to
go
for
a
commercial
installation.
A
The
typical
level
2
pedestal
will
cost
between
about
3500
to
$6,000,
based
on
a
report
that
I
saw
from
the
US
Department
of
Energy
and
then
for
a
level
3
pedestal
charger.
That
cost
goes
up
significantly
I
believe
to
about
ten
to
fifteen
thousand
dollars
for
that.
So
for
that
reason,
we're
not
putting
in
any
language
about
prohibiting
property
owners
from
charging,
because
the
costs
of
the
pedestal
equipment
can
be
expensive.
They
are
able
to
recoup
that
investment
through
the
charges
that
they
make
for
those
people
who
plug
into
their
equipment.
A
Now
there
are
lease
programs
available,
evie,
go
charge
point
and
the
other
major
operators
have
leasing
programs
where
there
is
a
monthly
cost
for
leasing
the
equipment
and
then
there's
profit
sharing
in
terms
of
the
electrical
charges.
So
if
they
buy
the
equipment,
the
prices
that
I
quoted
upfront
is
typically
what
it
costs.
But
there
are
leasing
programs
available
that
helps
to
minimize
or
eliminate
that
cost.
A
C
C
It
would
have
been
less
expensive
to
switch,
but
the
one
area
that
I
wanted
to
look
at
on
the
new
construction,
but
not
the
new
construction
non-residential,
but
not
the
retrofit,
is
changing
that
standard
to
one
space
for
from
1
to
25
and
part
of
the
reason
for
that,
as
many
of
the
things
that
we
look
at
are
fairly
small
and
enough,
the
amount
of
parking
is
not
huge
and,
secondly,
I
think
it
would
also
kit
gas
stations
where
I
think
it's
important.
There's
no
way.
C
No
other
way
of
having
gas
stations
be
required
to
put
in
a
chart
a
page
charging
station,
which
I
think
would
be
really
helpful
to
the
public
except
having
a
1:1
for
1
to
25.
But
I
wouldn't
look
at
that
necessarily
for
retrofits,
and
is
that
possible
to
go
a
little
further
than
the
green
building
standards?
A
Chair,
yes,
I
think
that
would
be
appropriate
in
terms
of
the
city's
goals
for
sustainability
that,
rather
than
under
ten
spaces,
not
requiring
any
equipment.
If
you
had
the
requirement
for
one
for
anywhere
from
zero
to
twenty
five
spaces,
I
think
that
would
be
appropriate
and
would
not
go
significantly
beyond
what
the
Green
Building
Code
requires.
And
your
point
is
to
only
require
that
for
new
non-residential
construction,
but
not
the
renovations
or
expansions.
A
E
Donna
felt
yes
I,
just
getting
back
to
what
you
said,
chair,
Warwick
and
and
referring
to
what
Commissioner
Rouen
said,
he
was
concerned
about
the
pad
that
was
being
built
out
in
front
of
Albertsons
for
Starbucks
and
she's
concerned.
Was
they
wanted
force
four
spots
now?
Let's
say
that
that
was
just
a
standalone
Starbucks
and
they
only
wanted
four
spots,
because
they
too
were
a
part
of
a
much
larger
parking
complex
with
your
requirement,
bringing
it
down
to
one
put
them
at,
require
them
to
install
a
charging
unit.
I
think.
C
C
C
Public
hearing
is
closed
and
we're
at
the
question
that
Commissioner
John
Infeld
asked
I'm
I'll,
try
and
answer
it,
but
I
might
need
help
from
Flynn.
I
would
consider
that
a
retrofit
and
I
think
what
Commissioner,
Liu
and
was
worried
about
was
having
to
go
back
and
take
all
600
spaces
in
the
in
the
parking
lot
before
Albertsons
and
require
that
they
have
6%
of
the
total
spaces.
Be
Chargers
in
that.
E
C
E
Would
be,
let's
put
that
one
aside,
maybe,
but
what?
If,
what
if
a
small
business
owner
wants
to
build
a
standalone
small
business
and
the
code
only
requires
him
to
put
in
five
or
six
spaces,
and
one
of
them
would
have
to
be
perhaps
a
charging
station?
Well,
that
really
takes
a
long
time
to
turn
in
that
car.
You
know
it
would
limit
his
ability
to
park.
Other
customers.
C
N
Yes,
this
could
hold.
This
requirement
is
to
pre
wire
and
I
believe
that
it's
a
conduit
that
goes
and
it's
plug
the
conduit
is
plug
so
that
when
the
owner
is
ready
to
install
or
the
California
Building
Green
Building
Standards
ready
to
make
it
into
a
requirement.
Then
that's
when
they
have
to
pull
water
and
install
the
expensive
freestanding
station.
N
So
in
this
case,
if
it
is
a
star
but
case
or
any
other
case
in
which
they
do
have
to
do,
grading
work
and
they
do
have
to
pull
in
power,
it
would
have
to
at
the
conduit,
but
not
the
entire
system.
So
the
requirements
are
not
as
costly
as
we
may
think
when,
when
the
whole
equipment
is
required
to
be
installed.
A
That
is
correct
for
commercial.
They
would
be
required
to
install
the
number
of
chargers
based
on
the
number
of
spaces
going
back
to
Commissioner
donenfeld
concern
a
belief.
Chair
worm,
like
you
said
that
the
requirement
of
providing
one
charger
for
anything
less
than
25
spaces
would
only
apply
to
new
construction
and
not
to
expansions.
So
in
the
Starbucks
example
on
north
sunrise,
that
would
be
considering
an
expansion
of
an
existing
center
and
it
would
not
be
required
to
install
a
charging
station
for
the
force
basis
that
they're,
adding
I.
E
One
of
them
would
be
taken
up
with
the
charger
and
I
wasn't
necessarily
thinking
about
the
cost
as
much
as
I
was
thinking
about
people
who
find
a
charger
they
become
coming
in
from
Palm
Springs,
with
a
bunch
of
kids
from
what
God
knows
where
and
phyto
by
here's
a
charger
they
just
put
it
in.
They
have
the
lunch,
they
decide
to
go
around
the
town
and
then
they
come
back
and
get
their
car
now.
I
know
this
is
a
set
of
facts.
E
They're
somewhat
remote,
but
I
don't
want
to
I'm,
not
an
electric
car
owner,
but
I
absolutely
respect
that
we
have
to
make
this
much
easier
for
people
in
terms
of
global
warming
remediation,
but
it
just
seems
it's
awfully
strict.
If
this
is
the
green
building
standard
right
now,
why
would
it
want
to
enhance
it?
It's
that's
pretty
comprehensive.
Is
it
not?
Why.
C
Commissioner
maruti
wanted
to
add
language
that,
if
a
tenant
or
an
own,
a
tenant
in
an
apartment,
building
or
an
owner
in
a
commitment
in
a
condominium
would
like
to
install
a
charger.
The
management
company,
the
HOA
or
the
owner
would
have
to
allow
that,
but
they
would
chart
they
could
charge
through
both
the
cost
and
the
monthly
cost
of
electricity
to
the
to
the
party.
That
was
something
I
think
pretty
much.
Everybody
agreed
with
yes,
and
was
there
anything
else
that
got
raised
that
had
unanimous
approval?
I,
don't
believe
so
am
I
correct.
M
Just
wanted
to
say
that
I
think
that
Commissioner
maroon
sees
in
tent
is
excellent
as
another
commissioner.
Her
spine
raised
an
issue
of
level
three
or
forty
Chargers
versus
220,
but
I
think
today.
If
we
adopt
this,
if
we
recommend
this,
we
are
doing
something
tremendous
something
that
ten
years
ago,
nobody
thought
wouldn't
possible,
which
is
really
man,
the
accessibility
of
level,
2,
charging,
quality
of
construction
and
major
reconstruction,
and
that
looms
the
ball
so
far
forward
that
if
we
try
and
become
perfect
in
all
things,
we
might
create
unintended
consequences.
M
I
would
I
would
really
like
us
to
support
the
existing
staff
recommendation
as
it's
written
and
let's
see
how
it
plays
out
for
the
next
12
to
18
months,
because
I
was
there
12
years
ago,
when
we
were
dreaming
that
one
day
we
would
get
charging
stations
and
I
was
there
when
Michelle
my
Seon
got
the
first
grants
to
build
the
first
and
now
we're
thinking
about
making
it
mandatory
for
all
new
construction
and
it's
a
tremendous
leap
forward
and
if
we
over
regulate
today,
we
might
have
an
unintended
consequence
in
an
industry
backlash
of
a
community
backlash.
M
B
Greatly
appreciate
what
Commissioner
Lewin
is
saying:
I
mean
he
was
around
when
this
was
just
a
dream,
but
I
don't
think
we
should
stop
now.
If
there's
the
opportunity
to
I,
don't
think
what
we're
asking
or
what
I'm
asking
is
all
that
onerous.
It
seems
inappropriate
that
if
someone
is
living
in
an
apartment
and
they
buy
an
electric
car
and
they're
willing
to
pay
the
cost
for
the
installation
of
what's
a
hundred
and
twenty
as
opposed
to
240,
why
we
would
why,
what's
the
issue
with
having
it
required
that
the
property
owner
kept
saying?
C
M
You,
madam
chair
and
respectfully
to
Commissioner
moon,
see
I,
really
agree
with
you,
but
there
are
all
kinds
of
housing
situations
where
there
are
unassigned
parking
spots
and
multifamily
units,
and
so
when
you
I
agree
with
you,
I
would
like
for
that
to
happen.
But
I
don't
think
we
really
fully
understand
the
implications
of
mandating
that
the
property
owner
allow
it.
When
you
have
a
situation
where
there
are
120
units
and
there
are
95
parking,
space
was
a
none
of
them
are
assigned,
and
then
one
person
says
I
want
it.
E
These
are
older
buildings
that
have
been
laid
out
in
certain
ways,
and
we
don't
know
what
the
unintended
consequences
are
going
to
be
with
respect
to
the
kind
of
have
accrual
rate,
both
among
the
HOA
members,
the
owner,
I,
think
this
is
a
major
major
step
forward
and
we're
taking
a
leadership
position
on
this
and
I
think
we
need
to
get
people
used
to
this
before
we
take
it
any
further.
So
I
I'm,
very
pleased
with
what
staff
has
done.
I
would
support
pole,
I
just.
C
C
They
at
the
point
in
time
that
she
was
buying
a
vehicle.
They
were
not
allowing
her
to
put
in
the
electrical,
so
she
bought
a
Prius
instead,
six
months
later
they
changed
management
and
they
opened
it
up
to
electric
vehicles
and
allowed
that
to
happen.
So
people
are
making
car
buying
decisions
based
on
whether
or
not
they
can
have
an
electric
vehicle,
I'm
sympathetic
to
not
adding
extra
to
it,
but
possibly
where
there
are
assigned
spaces
and
the
tenant
has
an
assigned
space.
We
could
consider
doing
them.
Commissioner
Murphy,
you
had
your
hand
up.
B
I'm
sure
I'm
not
the
first
person
to
raise
this
in
the
United
States.
There
certainly
must
be
some
municipality
who
has
thought
this
through
and
hopefully
dealt
with
the
unintended
consequences,
and
there
is
language
that
we
could
consider
if
not
at
this
meeting,
perhaps
that
we
could
read
rest.
We
could
approve
this
and
then
six
months
from
now,
we
could
address
other
opportunities
based
on
what
was
learned
about
these
types
of
situations
and
by
staff
and
consider
what
I'm
suggesting
at
that
time.
F
I
support
the
notion
of
retrofitting
requiring
allowing
a
tenant
or
an
owner
of
a
condo
to
retrofit
and
and
I'll
give
you
one
point,
and
that
is
that
there
was
a
time
where,
if
you
were
a
condo
owner
in
a
multi-family
building
and
you
had
a
roof
above
you,
the
HOA
could
deny
your
request
to
install
solar
panels
and
it
prevented
a
lot
of
people
from
installing
solar
panels.
F
And
the
argument
was:
oh,
it's
a
common
area
and
we
don't
know
if
you
damage
there's
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
arguments
against
it
and
it
held
that
for
a
while,
but
more
recently,
I
think
a
law
was
passed
that
prohibits
you
from
prohibiting
the
installation
of
solar
panels
on
a
common
area,
roof
and
or
for
aesthetic
reasons,
not
a
common
areas
that
your
own
roof
and,
and
so
now
everybody
can
do
it
within
whatever
HOA
rules
are
tolerated
and
no
one's.
You
know
no
one's
died
because
of
that
it's
just
moved
forward.
F
It's
like
the
next
generation
I
would
agree
with
slim
that
maybe
he
needs
to
look
at
some
language.
We
don't
know
what
the
language
is.
We're
kind
of
laymen
at
this,
but
as
far
as
policy
goes
I
would
fully
support.
Commissioner
Mercy's
notion
that
it'd
be
required
to
allow
it
and
and
the
cost
burden
is
by
the
residents,
so
I
I
would
I
would
vote
for
a
resolution
that
directs
for
them
to
come
back
with
some
language
at
the
next
meeting
to
complete
the
process.
E
Like
if
we're
in
I
think
we
should
continue
it
because
I
think
you're
going
to
have
a
constituency
in
the
city,
namely
developers
and
property
owner
or
property,
on
existing
property
owners
who
some
older
buildings,
who
this
wasn't
noticed
up
so
I,
think
we
ought
to
give
that
industry
a
chance
to
weigh
in
on
how
they
would
feel
at
it.
So
if
it's,
if
it's
added
by
Flynn
in
new
text,
it
could
be
part
of
our
next
meeting
and
a
wider
community
of
interest
could
show
up
perhaps
and
give
us
their
feelings
about
it.
A
Could
take
a
vote
on
this
this
evening?
I
think
you
have
a
couple
of
options,
though
one
of
the
suggestions
was
to
go
ahead
and
approve.
It
has
written
and
then
come
back
after
several
months
with
the
report
on
the
effectiveness
and
the
ordinance
and
at
that
point
in
time,
add
language
relative
to
retrofitting
multifamily
properties,
making
it
available
or
the
other
option
is.
You
could
continue
it
to
your
next
meeting.
C
B
C
M
A
motion
to
approve
the
staff
recommendation
for
item
to
see,
with
the
condition
that
we
revisit
this
in
six
months
to
discuss
the
issue
of
retrofitting
multifamily,
housing
and
other
other
ways
to
expand
the
ordinance
in
the
future.
The
Commissioner,
Murphy
I,
believe,
encompasses
what
you
wanted
to
achieve.
B
G
C
Fine
great
moving
right
along
the
next
item
is
new
business.
It
is
not
a
public
hearing
item
item
for
a
Toll
Brothers
for
Assigned
district
application
to
install
to
permanent
entry
signs,
28,
temporary
signs
and
six
temporary
flagpole
signs
within
the
Cody
place.
Development
located
at
9:0,
0,
South,
Palm,
Canyon,
Drive.
R
The
two
monument
signs
will
be
the
only
permanent
science
as
part
of
this
sign
district.
The
first
monument
sign
will
be
located
at
the
main
entrance
along
Cameron
Center
Drive
in
South
Palm
Canyon
Drive
in
the
landscaped
medium.
This
monument
sign
will
be
38
square
feet
and
will
be
double
sided
or
double
faced.
The
second
monument
sign
will
be
located
at
the
South
Palm
Canyon
Drive
and
mesquite
Avenue
corner.
This
monument
sign
was
originally
placed
at
the
entrance
of
mesquite
Avenue.
R
R
The
applicant
is
also
proposed,
proposing
three
community
identification
signs.
One
of
those
signs
will
be
located
on
the
northern
portion
of
the
community
and
two
along
the
southern
portion.
These
community
identification
signs
advertised
two
to
three-story
luxury,
townhomes
square
footage,
information
and
the
website
to
find
out
some
more
information
on
the
Cody
place,
development
community.
R
Originally,
the
applicant
had
proposed
six
flagpole
signs
to
line
South
pump,
I'm
sorry,
ten
flagpole
signs
to
line-to-line
South,
Palm,
Canyon,
Drive
and
mesquite
of
anew
staffs
recommended
to
change
that
number
from
ten
to
six
and
center.
Those
flagpole
signs
along
the
main
entrance
at
Cameron
Center
Drive,
similar
to
what
we've
done
in
the
past
for
similar
community
community
developments.
R
R
Model
home
signs
will
be
placed
immediately
adjacent
to
the
townhome
model
homes
and
these
model
homes
signs
will
indicate
the
name
number
of
beds
and
baths
square
footage
information
for
that
specific
townhouse
accompanying
those
model.
Home
signs
will
be
smaller
signs,
5
inches
by
6
inches
that
state
the
name
of
the
model
home
square
footage
information.
These
four
smaller
signs
are
typically
found
right
outside
the
main
entrance
of
the
model
home.
R
Due
to
the
characteristics
of
the
property,
the
curvature
along
South
Palm,
Canyon
Drive
the
inability
to
place
signs
along
the
northern
part
of
the
site
because
of
talk
with
screech
and
the
fact
that
once
development
begins
all,
but
three
signs
will
be
hidden
from
the
public
right
away.
Staff
has
determined
the
temporary
nature
of
these.
Signs
are
compliant
with
the
proposed
the
purpose
of
a
sign
district.
R
Additionally,
the
proposed
permanent
signage
is
consistent
with
they're
consistent
with
one
another.
They
stick
to
a
common
design
theme
and
they
comply
with
the
Palm
Springs
zoning
code
staff
recommends
the
Planning
Commission
approved,
subject
to
the
following
conditions:
reducing
the
number
of
flagpole
signs
from
10
to
6,
allowing
the
flagpole
signs
only
at
the
main
entrance
of
South
Palm,
Canyon,
Drive
and
camryn
Center
drive
and
relocating
all
three
commercial
identification
signs
to
the
front
of
the
fence
for
the
existing
perimeter
fence
on
the
ground,
as
shown
in
the
site
plan.
C
F
F
Ferrell
and
they
don't
have
any
signs
on
chocolates
and
I
I
think
I
think
it's
kind
of
overkill.
What's
going
to
be
seeing
from
the
public
right
away,
I,
don't
care
about
any
internal
times,
I
think
those
are
up
to
the
developer
and
they're
tasteful,
but
I
think
this
the
flag
sign
the
banner
flag
and
the
monument
sign,
and
then
you
ask
those:
what
is
he
calling
them?
The
kicker
signs
I
think
it's
overkill,
I
I,
don't
think
he
needs
it.
E
Are
entering
an
economy
and
a
real
estate
sales
market
that
we
will
have
no
nothing
about
I,
say
Jim
the
developer
within
reason
all
he
thinks
he
needs
to
bring
people
to
this
site
and
and
when
you
drive
down
past
the
site,
traffic
picks
up
measurably
at
that
point
and
you're
not
going
to
be
noticing
a
lot,
I
think
as
much
public
exposures.
You
have
to
the
fact
that
these
wonderful
units
are
being
sold
and
it's
only
temporary.
It's
not
going
to
be
there
forever.
E
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I
wrestled
a
lot
with
this
one,
and
probably
those
of
you
that
know
me
maybe
not
really
realize
where
I
come
from
on
this.
The
I
think
that
the
two
monument
signs
are
pretty
enormous
visibility.
The
sheer
amount
of
traffic
that
runs
up
Palm,
Canyon
Drive,
the
fact
that
there's
one
at
the
corner
and
another
one
at
the
entrance
is
incredible.
Visibility
and
the
fact
that
it
complies
with
the
sign
program
means
that
I'm
going
to
support
those.
M
You
know
what
I'm
worried
about
are
the
flagpoles
and
I
think
the
AEC
got
it
right.
When
I
read
the
staff
report
and
their
initial
review,
when
the
AAC
said
no
flagpoles
at
all,
I
think
they
were
right
and
here's
why
and
Doug
it's
partially
because
of
the
economy.
It
might
take
10
years
to
sell
all
of
these
units
and
to
have
even
half
a
dozen
6
21
foot
flag,
poles
sitting
there
for
an
unknown
period
of
time.
M
I
think
it'll
become
I,
think
it'll
be
a
mistake
and
I
think
there
is
enough
visibility
with
just
those
just
those
monument
signs.
I
would
hope
that
the
Commission
would
would
follow
the
AEC's
recommendation
and
and
and
eliminate
the
flag
poles
altogether
or
if
we
have
to
have
flag
poles,
maybe
just
accept
the
too
deep
interior
ones,
but
if
we
have
to
drive
by
for
10
years
every
day,
looking
at
21
foot,
flag,
poles
I
think
we're
going
to
realize
we
made
him.
We
made
a
mistake
on
this.
E
Commissioner
got
it
felt
all
I,
usually
respect
your
most
issues,
but
on
this
one
I
have
to
disagree.
First
of
all,
the
monument
signs
don't
tell
you
anything's
for
sale.
A
monument
sign
is
forever.
That
tells
you
that
there's
a
wonderful
residence
called
Cody
place,
but
it
doesn't
tell
you
what's
going
on
in
there
and
people
are
you
know,
there's
got
to
be
a
reason
why
there
are
flag
poles
and
every
development
practically.
There
has
to
be
a
reason
why
those
horrible
inflatable
guys
go
up
and
down
on
a
car
lot.
E
Are
there
it's
not
because
they
look
good
people
are
attracted
to
them.
They
must
work
and
so
I
I'm,
not
if
it
takes
ten
years
to
sell
it.
It
takes
ten
years
to
sell
and
I.
Don't
think
I
would
want
to
make
sure
that
the
flagpoles
don't
get
raggedy
and
that
they're
replaced
and
they're
kept
up,
but
I
think
a
few
flagpoles
is
not
going
to
it's
not
going
to
ruin
our
aesthetic
experience
and
Palm
Springs.
E
G
I
stopped
by
the
location
today
to
and
I
noticed
the
it's
kind
of
a
little
bit
of
a
setback,
so
the
palm
trees
that
are
lined
up
along
kham,
kaen,
they're,
they're
kind
of
almost
blinding
anything
that
you
possibly
can
be
able
to
see
because
they're
lined
up
all
the
way
down
the
road.
So
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
see
the
6'5
post
so
I.
Don't
think
that
the
poles
flag
poles
will
make
that
much
of
a
difference.
I.
C
E
E
C
N
I
had
a
motion
to
assert
the
project,
with
the
reduction
of
the
flat
poles
and
and
and
be
able
to
you
know
the
speedo
South
Canyon
is
a
speed
of
South
Palm
Canyon
and
what
what
you
guys
are
going
to
be
well
what
what
the
public
is
going
to
be
experiencing?
Is
these
flagpoles
sort
of
forth
further
down
in
the
entry
driveway
so
they're,
not
all
facing
or
they're,
not
all
on
South,
Palm,
Canyon,
so
architectural
II
I
think
there's
a
balance
between
market
in
design
and
what
the
staff
has
put
together
and
reductions.
B
Do
I
live
on
San,
Lorenzo
Road
that
goes
right
into
this
property
and
I've
had
we've
had
our
house
since
1998,
and
that
has
been
a
blight
forever
and
the
fact
that
Toll
Brothers
actually
came
in
and
had
the
resources
to
build
is
remarkable
and
anything
that
can
be
done
to
help
sell
those
properties
and
if
they
believe
that
the
flags
are
going
to
help
I
would
be
glad
to
see
them
every
time
I
Drive.
By,
because
anything
we
can
do
to
finish
that
project.
I
support,
I.
G
C
Okay-
and
that
was
what
I
thought
would
go
very
quickly-
it
didn't
for
B
and
I'm
not
going
to
pronounce
this
very
well
damn.
I
pero
Jim
PL
GMP
row
thank
you
and
to
camp
le
owners
for
a
major
architectural
review
for
the
construction
of
a
three
thousand
eight
hundred
and
seventy-six
square
foot
single-family
home,
located
on
a
hillside
lot
located
at
two
three
eight
one
Vista.
B
O
O
So
the
slide
that
is
before
you
shows
the
location
of
the
property.
It
is
right,
as
you
come
into
the
desert,
Palisades
off
of
the
gatehouse
its
lot
43.
Currently
there
are
other
houses
that
are
built
within
the
development,
but
their
father
set
up
into
the
hillside
itself,
so
the
property
faces
Vista
palace,
ADA
Drive.
It
is
front
loaded,
meaning
that
the
pool
is
in
the
front
of
the
house
with
a
driveway
that
comes
off
of
the
street
into
a
garage
that's
attached.
O
There
are
3d
renderings,
showing
the
design
of
the
house.
When
the
AAC
reviewed
this
project
on
April
20th,
they
made
several
recommendations
and
I'll
go
through
of
them
quickly
and
then
respond
by
the
architect
how
they
corrected
them.
So
they
one
of
the
chimney,
caps
and
other
ground
other
features
to
be
not
visible
from
the
street.
The
chimneys
had
protruded
above
the
roofline
and
they
have
since
lowered
them.
The
plans
also
needed
to
reflect
a
proper
decking
material
that
was
used
in
the
front
of
the
property.
O
You'll
see
that
the
house
is
located
7
feet
above
the
the
street
and
there's
a
step
down
about
a
2
foot
step
down
onto
the
the
deck
originally.
This
was
a
wood
decking
and
the
architect
has
changed
it
to
a
concrete
decking.
The
originally
his
plans
had
a
pole,
vault
that
was
underneath
this
pole
decking.
They
have
since
moved
it,
and
it
is
now
on
the
South
property
line.
They,
the
AC,
also
wanted
to
know
the
wall
material
that
is
around
the
trash
area.
O
This
is
going
to
be
a
poured
concrete
wall
that
will
shield
the
trashy
area,
which
is
behind
the
garage
and
I
can
show
that
on
a
site
plan,
the
material
board
that's
their
proposed
includes
the
colors.
They
now
show
an
a
beige
color
as
the
house
material
on
the
the
main
portion
of
the
house,
and
then
they
wanted
a
wall
that
is
underneath
the
decking,
so
the
deck
sits
on
piers
that
run
along
the
front
of
the
the
street
and
the
original
3d
rendering
did
not
show
a
wall
that
hid
these
piers.
O
So
you
would
see
underneath
it.
So,
as
I
mentioned
of
the
the
the
house
has
a
floor
plan
of
a
great
room
kitchen
and
then
three
bedrooms
with
a
garage.
The
design
guidelines
that
are
in
the
packet
are
extensive
for
desert,
Palisades
and
I
won't
go
through
all
of
them,
but
I
will
talk
about
mass
and
scale.
So
the
house
is
a
height
of
18
feet
as
measured
from
the
street.
It
consists
of
a
series
of
horizontal
planes
and
there's
an
upper
clerestory
window.
O
The
material
board
is
being
shown
now
showing
the
colors
that
they're
proposing
a
lot
of
IPE
wood
and
aluminum
frame
for
the
windows.
The
landscape
plan
uses
minimal
desert
landscaping
too,
that
meets
the
design
guidelines
for
desert
Palisades.
The
driveway
will
be
twelve
feet
wide
at
the
street
and
will
be
used
use
of
pavers
they're,
also
proposing
a
trellis
canopy
that
is
sort
of
an
architectural
feature
that
sits
at
the
front
of
the
garage
that
will
also
shield
the
garage
doors
from
the
street.
O
There's
a
material
board
showing
the
hardware
as
to
the
the
fire
pits
and
the
different
core
ten
steel
elements
that
will
be
used
throughout
the
building
and
then
there's
also
the
fence
the
fencing
around
the
pool,
which
is
a
cable
guardrail
system,
because
the
pool
is
front
loaded.
The
AC
was
was
very
keen
on
making
sure
that
this
was
an
attractive
portion
of
the
house
and
there
is
a
snapshot
of
what
it
looks
like.
The
proposed
guardrail,
guide
and
and
wire
guides.
O
There
are
photographs
of
what
this
site
looks
like
now,
as
you
can
see
it's
rock-strewn
and
there
will
be
no
masquerading
it'll,
be
the
house
will
be
placed
on
top
of
the
land
and
and
and
meet
all
the
standards
for
the
design
guidelines
so
chair.
That
concludes
my
report
and,
as
you
heard
earlier,
the
architect
is
available
to
be
called
if
needed.
Thank
you.
Thank.
N
C
G
D
G
C
A
Madam
chair
and
members
of
the
Commission
this
evening
we
have
a
discussion
relative
to
the
concept
of
food
deserts.
In
recent
discussions
of
the
City
Council
business
retention
committee,
and
even
here
at
the
Planning
Commission,
we
have
talked
about
the
need
for
grocery
stores
in
certain
neighborhoods.
A
What
the
USDA
has
stated
is
that
food
access
becomes
critical,
primarily
in
neighborhoods,
where
there
is
higher
poverty
and
lower
median
income.
One
of
the
questions
arises:
why
should
we
as
the
city
care
about
food
deserts,
or
why
should
we
as
planners
and
public
officials
care
about
food
deserts?
The
reason
is
because
planning
policy
shapes
the
way
our
communities
grow
and
develop.
We
make
policy
decisions
on
a
regular
basis
that
impact
Public
Health,
for
example,
access
to
clean
water,
clean
air.
A
Do
we
provide
parks
in
neighborhoods
which
gives
access
to
recreational
opportunities
for
residents,
and
so
similarly,
access
to
healthy
food
is
another
thing
that
impacts
public
health
as
we've
particularly
found
during
the
pandemic.
We
need
to
have
certain
needs
met
on
a
regular
basis
and
by
having
those
needs
close
to
our
neighborhoods.
It
makes
it
more
feasible
for
us
to
meet
those
needs
in
looking
at
the
city,
I
had
my
staff
do
a
mapping
exercise
looking
at
the
factors
of
distance
poverty,
level
and
income
and
what
it
revealed
just
here.
A
The
next
question
comes
up.
If
we
were
to
proceed
with
this,
what
would
be
the
qualifications
I
would
recommend
that
we
stick
fairly
closely
to
what
the
USDA
uses
to
define
as
a
food
desert,
that
it
would
be
an
area.
That's
one
mile
or
more
from
a
grocery
store
census
tract
poverty
level
greater
than
20%
and
the
median
income
is
less
than
the
overall
city
median
income.
A
Those
would
be
things
such
as
baking,
ingredients,
flour,
sugar,
etc,
and
then
they
also
have
a
full
line
of
canned
goods
as
well.
What
I
would
recommend
that
we
exclude
from
a
qualifying
grocery
store
is
convenience
stores
they
typically
do
don't
offer
the
expanded
level
of
perishables
dry
groceries
and
canned
goods
that
are
necessary
for
daily
life
and
then
drug
stores,
even
though
they
do
include
some
food
items,
they
typically
don't
have
the
full
extent
that's
necessary.
A
The
last
part
of
this
discussion
is
what
should
be
the
zoning
incentives
to
encourage
grocery
stores
to
establish
themselves
in
the
areas
where
they
currently
are.
Not
one
of
the
key
things
that
we
hear
from
applicants
over
again
is
that
shortening
the
entitlement
process
is
one
of
the
ways
that
we
can
encourage
those
types
of
uses
that
we
want
in
neighbor.
A
Another
thing
that
we
could
look
at
is
to
eliminate
the
need
for
any
Associated
applications.
A
couple
of
the
things
that
we
see
many
times
with
grocery
stores
is
the
sales
of
liquor,
which
requires
a
separate
conditional
use.
Permit
another
thing
that
we're
seeing
with
grocery
stores,
for
example,
are
Vaughan's
on
East
Palm
Canyon
has
a
gas
station,
which
also
requires
a
conditional
use
permit,
and
so,
as
part
of
an
overlay.
A
What
we
might
do
to
look
for
incentives
is
eliminating
the
need
for
Associated
applications,
so
what
I'm
proposing
is
to
get
your
input
tonight
on
the
proposed
definition
of
what
a
food
desert
is
for
an
overlay
also
looking
at
zoning
incentives,
what
you
might
recommend
with
the
idea
that
I
would
come
back
next
month
with
an
ordinance
incorporating
those
items
for
you
to
review
and
discuss
at
your
June
meeting.
That
concludes
my
presentation.
I'd
be
happy
to
take
any
questions
you
might
have
on
this
proposal.
Thank
you.
C
B
A
N
Flynn,
can
we
also
consider
incentives
for
the
overlay
ordinance
when
it
comes
to
existing
building
versus
brand-new
construction?
Perhaps
we
can
be
more
lenient
when
the
developer
wants
to
use
existing
buildings
so
that
they
can
get
their
their
business
faster
and
then,
therefore,
you
somewhere
are
empty
commercial
buildings.
A
Yes,
absolutely
we
can
consider
that
as
one
of
the
incentives,
what
we
might
be
able
to
do
is
where
there's
an
existing
building.
We
might
be
able
to
eliminate
one
of
the
applications
in
a
review
process
like
the
major
architectural
application,
and
we
can
have
it
be
more
of
an
administrative
process.
A
E
You
know
very
often
the
incentives
have
to
do
with
governmental
monetary
incentives,
tax
credits,
rebates,
cutting
down
cutting
off
the
administrative
and
bureaucratic
expenses
for
approval,
but
with
the
budget
that
we're
facing
by
coming
this
year.
Next,
it's
going
to
be
very
hard
to
come
up
with
some
meaningful
incentives
for
developers
when
we
have
no
money
to
give
away
as
incentives,
so
it
would
have
to
be
sort
of
non-monetary
type
incentives.
It
seems
to
me
Commissioner.
E
F
C
E
Perhaps
we
could
look
at
other
jurisdictions
and
see
how
they
treat
these
large
big
box
sort
of
grocery
stores
or
any
types
of
grocery
stores
from
a
planning
perspective.
I
don't
know
if
that
makes
any
sense,
but
maybe
we're
unduly
restrictive
with
respect
to
some
of
our
requirements
that
we
can
make
a
little
bit
more
forgiving
about.
C
M
M
Okay,
thank
you,
then.
I
think
that
the
director
part
of
our
planning
department,
a
terrific
job
in
identifying
the
criteria
for
a
blue
desert
in
making
great
recommendations
and
I
would
I
would
love
to
see
the
proposed
overlay
ordinance
come
forward
based
on
the
definition
that
he
currently
is
using.
M
But
there
was
one
part
of
this
staff
report
that
I
I,
probably
wouldn't
support
in
the
future,
and
I
wanted
to
get
the
input
of
my
fellow
commissioners
on
this
topic
and
it's
on
page
five,
and
it
is
the
whole
point
under
kind
of
Zoning
incentives
and
Doug
you're
right.
There's.
No
we're
not
here
to
do
cash
incentives
all
about
zoning.
M
The
third
bullet
point
when
page
5
says
eliminate
the
need
for
additional
application
types,
such
as
eliminating
C
ups
for
grocery
stores
that
include
a
gas
station
and
I
think
that
goes
a
little
too
far.
If
our
objective
is
to
provide
food
in
an
area
that
doesn't
have
food,
we
should
we
should
try
and
achieve
that
objective,
but
the
moment
you're,
adding
in
a
gas
station.
M
So
here
we
are
we're
getting
direction
to
staff
and
I
really
want
to
hear
from
the
rest
of
you
whether
you
would
want
to
waive
the
right
to
review
gas
stations,
knowing
that
they
often
come
with
car
washes
and
automotive
services
and
stacks
of
tires
that
we
want
to
waive
that
right
and
have
a
gas
station
go
through
administrative
Lea,
whereas
I
think
we
would
want
to
see
lower
barriers
for
food
as
described
by
a
Flynn.
So
I
I'm
curious
to
know
what
the
rest
of
you
think.
Why.
C
C
So
I'm,
basically
seeing
agreement
on
that.
So
then
the
second
is
the
incentives
and
I
believe
Flynn
listed
three
of
them.
We
can
take
the.
Why
don't
we
go
backwards
on
mission
rule
and
wanted
to
talk
about
eliminating
CPS
for
gas
stations
and
or
liquor?
Is
that
an
incentive
people
would
want
to
agree
to
Commissioner
Hersh
crime,
so.
F
One
would
be
to
wing
the
fee
for
the
CP.
We
do
want
to
review
it
or
we
could
direct
staff
to
review
it.
I
trust
that
they're
they're
qualified
to
determine
whether
I
use
such
as
a
gas
station
how
its
oriented
on
the
side
is
compatible
with
adjacencies
I'm,
not
that
first
about
it
so
I.
That's
how
I
feel
good.
G
N
B
A
In
terms
of
the
proposal
to
eliminate
the
conditional
use
permits
for
accessory
uses,
the
primary
reason,
I
included,
that
is
oftentimes,
those
accessory
uses,
help
to
drive
sales
at
the
grocery
store.
You'll,
see
the
major
chains
such
as
Vaughn's
and
Albertsons
Kroger,
and
the
others
who
are
using
both
liquor
and
gas
stations
to
help
fuel
sales.
If
you
will
for
lack
of
a
better
term,
and
so
for
those
reasons,
I
included
that
again,
we
don't
have
many
incentives
to
offer.
A
As
commissioner
donenfeld
has
pointed
out,
we
really
don't
have
any
financial
incentives
we
can
offer,
and
so
we
have
to
look
at
the
things
that
we
can
do
from
a
zoning
standpoint.
I
also
think
that
the
comments
about
looking
at
adjacencies
in
terms
of
will
the
gas
station
or
the
liquor
sales
impact,
an
adjacent
property
I
think
that's
important,
and
so
we
should
still
include
that
as
an
evaluation
as
part
of
the
Planning
Commission
consideration
of
the
item,
but
I
don't
think
we
need
to
have
them
necessarily
file.
E
Think
I
understand
what
Paul
is
saying,
but
we
just
said
to
encourage
a
large
grocery
store
to
locate
in
one
of
these
underserved
areas.
They
very
often
need
or
part
of
the
business
model,
includes
a
gas
station
or
an
ancillary
facility
of
some
type.
It
would
be
easier
on
them
if
they
could
put
that
in
one
package
and
not
have
to
go.
We
said
you
know
no
we're
going
to
really
streamline
the
planning
process
and
the
approval
process
with
respect
to
the
grocery
store.
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
This
is
a
comment
to
to
the
Commission
and
and
also
a
question
for
Flynn,
maybe
a
little
understanding
on
my
part
and
because
we're
just
here
talking
and
Flynn's,
going
to
go
and
do
all
this
work
and
come
back
with
an
overlay
and
the
whole
thing
for
us
to
actually
vote
on.
There's
just
a
wonderful
discussion
right
now
and
we're
not
going
to
decide
anything
tonight.
So
I
have
no
problem.
M
If
we
go
forward
and
we
include
the
waiver
of
the
see
ups
in
the
next
part,
knowing
that
we're
going
to
debate
the
merits
of
that.
But
I
really
want
to
understand
something
here
when
in
in
what
you're
envisioning?
Could
somebody
build
a
5,000
square
foot
bed
mode
and
attach
to
it?
A
gas
station
includes
some
food
with
the
bed.
Bev
mow,
some
dried
goods,
some
perishable
goods,
but
basically
be
a
large
liquor
store,
have
a
gas
station
and
a
car
wash
on
North
Indian
Canyon
and
go
through
administrative
Lee.
M
A
I,
don't
think
that's
the
direction
that
we
want
to
go
in
terms
of
incentives.
Number
one
relative
to
the
car
wash
I
would
not
include
that
as
an
incentive,
and
it's
not
something
that
we're
seeing
the
major
chains
doing.
They
typically
have
a
standalone
gas
station,
but
they
don't
do
car
washes
and
I
think
we
should
exclude
that
from
any
incentive,
because
that's
not
where
we
want
to
go.
Secondly,
relative
to
you
know,
could
it
be
a
BevMo?
A
The
answer
is:
no,
it
needs
to
be
a
grocery
store,
and
so
the
primary
sales
need
to
be
food
items
and
not
alcohol
items.
So
the
way
that
we
establish
that
definition
can
help
to
eliminate
that
concern.
The
third
thing
is
I
agree
that
there
needs
to
be
the
ability
for
residents
to
comment
on
an
application.
What
I
will
probably
propose
to
you
when
we
develop?
The
ordinance
is
even
though
we're
looking
at
a
reduced
entitlement.
A
Time
frame
I
would
still
recommend
that
we
have
some
type
of
review
at
the
Planning
Commission,
which
would
give
members
of
the
public
the
opportunity
to
comment.
What
we
will
look
at
doing
is
having
a
an
accelerated
time
frame
for
getting
that
before
the
Planning
Commission,
but
still
having
a
public
meeting
where
people
could
comment.
E
And
I
know
bite
by
suggesting
this
I'm
going
to
be
drafted
too,
but
it
seems
to
me
this
calls
for
a
a
little
subcommittee
towards
some
of
these
things
through
because
we
don't
have
any
hanging
around
anymore
and
we've
gone.
Some
of
us
certainly
have
a
lot
of
time
on
our
hands.
Mr.
lewin
doesn't
because
he's
a
working
stiff,
but
some
of
us
who
do
we
might
want
to
sense
in
time
with
Flynn.
It's
important
I
think
this
is
a
wonderful
concept
to
be
getting
into
and
good
for.
A
Believe
that
I
do
I've
heard
the
concerns
that
have
been
offered
by
the
planning
commissioners,
in
particular
mr.
lewin
relative
to
things
that
really
are
not
the
goal
of
what
we're
trying
to
do,
and
so
we
can
craft
an
ordinance
that
helps
to
address
those.
So,
yes,
I
do
believe
if
I
have
enough
to
go
on.
Thank
you.
A
C
C
A
F
Of
have
a
concern,
I,
don't
know
if
it's
an
overriding
concern,
but
I
was
concerned
about
it.
I
mean
if
you're,
if
our
food
deserts
are
in
demographic
zones
or
demographic
areas,
that
that
are
lower
poverty
or
higher
poverty,
lower
median
income.
Are
we
saying
those
people
don't
deserve
to
have
their
commercial
buildings
that
it's
for
aesthetic
issues
and
you
kind
of
you
know
you're
treading
like
you're?
It's
a
mixed
signal
like
you're
saying:
well,
you
don't
deserve
to
have
your
buildings
into
it.
M
M
C
C
A
The
things
that
we've
already
talked
about
in
terms
of
being
able
to
reduce
parking
standards
to
a
certain
degree
being
able
to
reduce
setbacks
and
height
limits
when
there
is
no
impact
to
adjacent
properties.
Those
are
the
types
of
things
that
I
would
look
at,
perhaps
lot
coverage
and
allowing
an
increase.
A
slight
increase
in
lock
coverage.
Again,
those
are
the
things
that
I
would
look
at
in
terms
of
waivers
of
development
standards.
L
N
C
G
Just
just
want
to
tell
flame,
thank
you
and
you
know,
you're
doing
a
great
job.
I
know
we
had
a
discussion
last
time
kind
of
about
this
and
I
just
wanted
to
just
tell
them.
Thank
you
for
and
I
appreciate
the
satis
turn
around
and
paying
attention
to
getting
us
a
grocery
store
out
there
in
that
area.
A
C
C
E
E
E
A
Don't
have
any
items
to
report
for
you
at
this
point
in
time
other
than
our
next
meeting
is
going
to
be
on
June
the
10th.
We
will
continue
to
do
the
meeting
via
zoom
for
that
other
than
that
you're
aware
that
the
city
has
declared
a
fiscal
emergency,
the
City
Council
will
be
holding
a
special
meeting
tomorrow
night.
At
this
point
in
time,
we
don't
have
any
indication
that
the
general
plan
update
will
be
eliminated
as
far
as
I
understand.
We
will
continue
to
move
forward
with
that
prod.
A
One
of
the
biggest
issues
that
we
have,
of
course,
is
the
fact
of
our
social
distancing
and
and
trying
to
hold
meetings
via
videoconference
becomes
a
little
bit
difficult.
We
will
be
releasing
another
survey
for
residents
to
take
we'll
send
you
an
email
once
that
survey
is
online
relative
to
the
general
plan,
update
and
encourage
you
to
disseminate
that
survey
to
others
who
may
be
interested
in
participating.
That's
all
I've
got
this
evening,
madam
chair
and
again
thanks
to
all
of
you.