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Mean
I
think
for
me,
that
is
an
issue
and
I've
been
trying
to
think
about
this.
Since
the
last
executive
committee
meeting,
because
I
think
the
position
of
mayor
pro-tem
vote
on
CV
link
oversight
who
worked
on
it
was
different
than
the
mayor's
at
the
executive
committee,
and
so
how
do
we
make
that
fit
on
whether
we
should
have
that
oversight
board
and
whether
Rancho,
Mirage
and
indeed
well,
should
be
part
of
it?
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For
instance,
when
we
have
a
discussion
at
the
City,
Council,
I,
obviously
and
I've
said
before,
even
though
you
guys
don't
have
to
direct
me,
I
vote
in
a
live,
morally
I
would
vote
yes
or
no
in
the
way
the
council
majority.
The
council
wants,
however,
like
the
one
on
whether
ran
from
erosion
and
indian
oil
should
stay
on
or
not.
That
was
sort
of
that,
something
that
just
sort
of
came
up
and.
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The
question
I
think
the
there
are
two
questions
for
me.
One
is
you're
not
always
going
to
know
and
the
council
may
not
always
know
the
position.
The
policy
person
who's
worked
on.
It
is
taken.
So
how
do
we
get
a
position
of
council
on
those?
So
we
don't
have
someone
who's
worked
on
it
for
a
year
and
then
you
might
vote
differently,
because
it's
your
position
and
you
don't
know
their
position-
I
mean.
How
do
we
well.
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One
person,
I
I,
think
we're
just
discussing
yeah
I
mean
say
that
that
someone
on
the
homeless
committee
or
energy,
environment
or
transportation,
they
know
they're
gonna,
know
because
they
vote
on
something
that
is
going
to
the
executive
committee.
There's
usually
enough
time
for
them
to
at
least
put
on
the
consent
calendar
for
us
to
both.
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Uh-Uh
home
we
get
homelessness,
Public,
Safety
transportation,
Coachella,
Valley
conservation,
if
anybody's
on
it
doesn't
want
to
be
on
there.
Yell
Conservation
Commission,
Coachella,
Valley,
Mountains,
Conservancy
board,
Main
Street,
uptown,
Business,
Association
I.
Go
to
that
every
time
and
I
think
Jeff
goes
to
a
lot
of
me
too.
Yeah
Palm,
Springs,
I'm,
gonna,
miss
it
this
week
because
they've
rescheduled
it
by
the
way.
Oh
okay,
I've
got
a
dermatology
okay.
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Palm
Springs
Convention
Visitors
Bureau,
oh
yeah,
that's
I!
Go
to
that
yeah.
We
don't
really
know
anything
that
was
that's
controversial,
Riverside,
County
communities,
Commission,
actually
Dale
cook
goes
to
those
meetings.
I
don't
go!
It's
it's
sort
of
traditional
Riverside
County,
a
community
benefit
committee.
Nobody's
going!
Do
we
need
somebody
there?
Oh
do
you
know
we
think
about
that.
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Okay,
I'm,
sorry
that
it's
on
there,
too
Jr's
pushing
me
so
faster
okay,
public
comments.
Pursuant
to
the
Brown
Act
public
comment
is
limited
to
item
number
two
that
appears
on
the
adjourned.
Regular
meeting
agenda,
two
minutes
the
sign
for
each
speaker,
my
bike,
miss
Hart:
do
we
have
anyone
who
wishes
to
speak?
No.
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J
You,
mayor
and
council
I
will
quickly
go
through
the
staff
report
and,
as
you
know,
this
is
relating
to
the
Sarina
Park
project
that
was
approved
last
year.
On
page
two
of
the
staff
report,
I
identified
the
resolutions
and
ordinances
that
were
approved
by
this
council.
There
were
a
number
of
major
discretionary
entitlements
approved
that
basically
convert
the
prior
Palm
Springs
Country
Club
golf
course,
which
was
open
space
to
very
low
density
residential
land.
J
As
part
of
the
discretionary
approvals
that
this
council
granted
to
the
Sarina
Park
project,
that
developer
chose
to
comply
with
that
land
use
policy
by
agreeing
to
a
in
lieu
fee
which,
at
that
time,
we
suggested
would
be
as
much
as
three
million
dollars,
which
would
represent
approximately
half
of
the
cost
of
the
open
space
we
are
attempting
to
acquire
elsewhere
and
given
that
in
lieu
density
transfer
fee,
that's
required.
A
development
agreement
was
the
tool
and
the
mechanism
to
have
that
transfer
occur.
J
I
won't
go
into
all
the
background
on
the
development
agreement,
but
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
that's
on
pages
four
and
five
and
six
and
seven
on
seven.
However,
this
is
where
we
really
need
to
focus
your
attention,
so
we
did
have
a
draft
the
development
agreement
prepared
at
the
time
the
discretionary
approvals
were
being
considered
by
the
Planning
Commission
and
council
in
2016
and
and
for
the
sake
of
your
reference.
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the
draft
development
agreement
is
actually
in
your
packet
on
page
151.
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One
of
one
of
the
requirements
in
the
Municipal
Code
with
development
agreements,
which
is
part
of
what's
recommended,
is
annual
review
and
so
every
year
there's
an
annual
review
on
the
status
of
the
project
and
the
schedule.
And
if
they're,
you
know
how
the
economy's
doing
and
so
there's
an
a
mechanism
for
you
to
track
their
progress
and
whether
you
know
and
whether
or
not
you
know
so,.
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You
look
on
page
146,
JR,
look
at
page
146,
it
says,
while
the
staff
and
the
applicant
of
work
to
agree
on
most
terms
following
issues
have
not
been
resolved
and
number
one
was
length
of
agreement.
Staff
believes
the
term
of
20
years
is
longer
than
necessary
to
address
project
build-out.
The
developer
initially
requested
25
years
and
staff
recommends
10
years.
So
obviously
this
has
been.
This
was
a
matter
that
was
discussed
at
I.
Knew
I,
read
this
somewhere
funny.
J
The
staff
collectively,
but
ultimately
at
the
Planning
Commission,
is
noted
in
the
minutes,
which
are
also
included
on
page
183,
the
Planning
Commission
considered
and
was
persuaded
by
the
developer
for
the
reasons
that
they
stated
of
the
need
for
a
20
year
term.
On
the
on
the
basis
of
those
reasons
that
I
decided
that
that
really
on
a
project
of
this
magnitude,
the
economy
is
really
going
to
dictate
the
rate
that
they
deliver.
Those
units.
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It
does
so
that
the
second
part
of
this
that
the
developer
was
requesting
was
to
freeze
building
permit
fees,
only
those
that
are
discretionary
for
the
city's
general
fund
not
paid
to
third
parties
or
enterprise
funds
and
freeze
those
at
the
current
rate
for
five
years
and
having
those
adjusted
automatically
Tooley.
Then
current
fees
in
the
fifth
and
the
tenth
and
the
fifteenth
year
so
that
that
mechanism
is.
J
Common
in
some
development
agreements
and
I
did
some
assumptions
on
what
that
impact
would
be
to
the
city
based
on
their
expectation
to
deliver
80
units
in
the
first
phase
over
five
years,
and
it
would
be
about
a
$50,000
impact
to
the
city.
But
again,
that's
based
on
a
wild
assumption
on
how
fast
they're
gonna
be
delivering
units
over
that
and.
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Okay,
the
the
the
other
main
point
to
to
really
identify
as
the
in
lieu
fee,
and
so
the
Planning
Commission
recommended
that
the
council,
rather
than
the
Planning
Commission,
did
not
recommend
an
amount
and
deferred
that
to
you
and
what
we've
recommended
is
that,
based
on
what
we
think
that
the
open
space
that
we're
trying
to
acquire
will
cost
that
that
three
million
dollar
amount
is
appropriate.
But
that
is
one
of
the
points
we
need
in
direction
on
tonight.
Do.
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Me
refer
you
to
page
four,
so
so
the
mechanism
for
trying
to
arrange
for
the
ultimate
density
transfer
using
the
inland
fee
provided
by
Palm
Springs
Country
Club,
is
an
exchange
of
properties.
So,
ultimately,
the
property
in
question
to
acquire
for
use
of
open
space
is
the
parcels
on
the
Chino
Cohen.
But
the
mechanism
for
that
is
the
acquisition
of
is.
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Mr.
fuller,
on
page
156,
it
says
in
paragraph
II,
1
and
2,
it
says:
payment
of
the
developer
of
agreement
fee
is
lumps
up
of
two
and
a
half
million
to
be
paid
through
statewide
community
infrastructure
program
funds
level
of
law.
So
when,
when
would
that
be
paid,
that's
payable
upon
signing
this
agreement
or
what
is
it.
J
We
actually
need
that
payment
up
front,
and
so
what
we're
suggesting,
as
a
suggestion
to
the
council,
is
to
require
the
lump
sum
payment
within
three
years
of
execution
of
the
development
agreement.
It
turns
out
that
the
skip
program
isn't
the
appropriate
mechanism
for
financing
the
that
type
of
in
Luffy
and
in
discussions
with
the
developer,
they
don't
intend
to
finance
it
period.
They'll
find
a
way
to
secure
it
and
pay
it
within
three
years
of
development
occasion
of
the
developer.
That's
the
suggestion
tonight.
That's.
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What
Planning
Commission
recommend
Planning
Commission
recommends
to
use
that
you
should
determine
the
amount
and
the
payment
of
fees
should
be
set
by
the
council
on
a
date
certain
early
in
the
process
in
lump
sum
not
on
a
unit
per
unit
basis.
So
so,
based
on
that
recommendation
and
in
talking
with
the
developer,
we're
suggesting
a
lump
sum
fee
paid
within
three
years
of
execution
of
development
agreement
with
a
security
instrument
to
ensure
that
they
satisfy
that
obligation
after
the
development
agreements
executed.
So.
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Done
a
few
of
these
and
as
a
practical
matter,
there's
no
one
wrong
way.
There
can
be
a
lump
sum.
It
can
be
related
to
a
particular
transaction
or
event
like
you've
heard.
Mr.
fuller
describe
there's
also
per
unit
incentives
similar
to
what
the
mayor
was
discussing.
There's
also
a
combination
of
the
two
in
this
instance,
as
staff
has
explained
to
you
and
I
think
mr.
fuller
can
go
further.
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If
you
need
him
to,
we
really
can't
accomplish
the
3-way
transaction,
that's
desired
and
contemplated
by
staff
without
receipt
of
those
funds
within
the
first
three
years.
That's
an
important
point.
The
security
instrument
would
have
a
take
down
schedule
associated
with
it
that
I've
discussed
with
counsel
for
the
developer.
That's
consistent
with
that
three-year
period.
You.
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Let
me
let's
ask
the
developer,
but
that's
not
what
was
recommended
by
the
I'm.
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This
developer
would
really
be
responsible
for
half
of
that
cost
at
one
point
in
time
that
cost
of
that
property
was
estimated
a
little
bit
lower,
which
is
why
you
saw
the
two
and
a
half
million,
but,
as
we
went
through
this
process
with
the
sarena
Park
and
the
other
negotiations
with
the
other
party
on
the
exchange
parcel,
we
wanted
to
ensure
the
city
was
left
whole
and
that
price
has
gone
up
to
three
million
for
the
estimated
six
million
dollar
cost
of
the
exchange
property.
If
that
makes
sense,.
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No
I'm
just
trying
to
be
you
know
if
we're
voting,
if
I
try
to
read
and
stuff
we're
gonna
vote
on
and
this
development
agreement
were
voting
on,
it
starts
on
one
page,
51,
150
I
believe
so
I
would
just
read
it
and
it
said
that
that's
why
I
had
a
question
on
that.
Didn't
make
sense
to
me
because
he's
saying
three
million
this
is
two
and
a
half
million,
plus
another
2.2
million
or
approximately
different.
J
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J
Believe
they
estimated
a
per
unit
cost
so
the
three
80s
well
and
they
had
more
units-
remember
when
the
project
ultimately
got
approved.
The
council
required
a
net
reduction
of
units,
so
the
that
I
think
there
were
400
and
plus
units
at
one
point,
so
that
six
thousand
figure
was
whatever
the
total
units
were
in.
J
The
original
proposal
would
net
the
two
and
a
half
million
dollars,
so
I
wouldn't
focus
on
the
numbers,
but
the
idea
there
at
that
time
was
they
were
going
to
be
responsible
for
two
and
a
half
million
either
lump
sum
or
on
a
per
unit
basis.
Planning
Commission
recommends
to
you,
you
set
the
fee
and
it's
a
lump
sum
early
in
the
process.
Okay,.
J
It
the
the
only
there's
a
number
of
other
items
listed
in
the
development
greement,
which
are
really
already
required
in
the
conditions
of
approval
for
the
project
relating
to
the
walls
around
the
adjacent
condominium
developments.
The
the
one
big
issue
that
was
also
to
be
included
in
the
development
agreement
was
the
public
park.
So
on
page
nine,
you
see
the
original
concept
for
the
public
park
and,
as
a
reminder,
this
is
a
privately
owned
and
maintained
publicly
accessible
park.
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The
developer
has
addressed
all
of
those
comments
and
there
is
a
revised
concept
plan.
Ultimately,
however,
what
we're
suggesting
to
you
is
is
the
final
details
of
that
public
park
consistent
with
what
we
will
bring
to
you
with
the
development
agreement
on
the
19th
will
be
part
of
the
final
development
plans
that
are
required
because,
as
you
know,
this
is
this
project
has
a
preliminary
as
a
PD
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and
when
they
bring
forward
the
final
and
but
plans
for
the
pdb.
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This
public
park
will
be
part
of
it
and
that
final
PD
is
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission.
We
would.
We
would
include
language
in
the
development
agreement
that
the
that
the
final
improvements
required
in
the
public
park
would
be
consistent
with
those
that
are
outlined
in
the
development
agreement
and,
as
shown
in
the
final
final
plans
for
the
PD
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission
and,
as
you
can
see,
the
park
includes
a
dock
park,
a
play
area,
tennis
courts
and
pickleball.
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Just
want
to
I
I
want
to
just
note
that
I
paid
very
careful
attention
to
the
document
itself.
In
response
to
your
comments,
mr.
mayor
you're,
absolutely
right,
it's
in
there
exactly,
as
you
say,
on
page
six
of
the
draft
development
agreement,
no
question
about
it,
which
is
page
156,
I,
think,
as
you
said,
another
packet,
so
these
are
items
where
we
would
like
direction
from
the
council.
I'm
sure
the
developer
will
have
something
to
say
about
it.
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K
K
The
concept
is,
and
that's
being
discussed,
is
a
lump
sum
payment,
so
it
so
the
things
don't
match.
We
certainly
can't
pay
both
right
now.
The
load
for
three
million
dollars
is
around
seventy
eight
hundred
dollars
per
unit,
but
since
we
have
to
pay
it
all
upfront,
it's
a
much
bigger
cash
flow
burden
for
us.
So
we
have
to
see
whether
we
can
do
that.
The
twenty
years
really
has
nothing
to
do
with
how
fast
we
build
it
up
out.
It
really
has
to
do
with
our
financing
requirements
in
order
for
us
to
get
financing.
K
Even
if
we
have
a
ten
year
build-out,
we
have
to
show
that
we
will
have
the
entitlements
for
at
least
twenty
years.
That's
basically
what
the
lenders
are
looking
for.
They
aren't
looking
for
us
to
coffin
aligned
at
ten
months
or
a
ten.
You
know
nine
years,
11
months
and
31
30
days.
What
they
want
to
show
is
that
we
have
some
flexibility
to
go
further
on
and
in
terms
of
us
dragging
our
feet.
K
Developers
really
do
not
have
a
incentive
to
not
sell
houses.
Every
economic
force
pushes
the
developer
towards
selling
the
houses
as
quickly
as
they
possibly
can.
So
the
only
reasons
that
developers
don't
sell
houses
as
fast
as
they
possibly
can
is
because
they
can't
it's
never
because
they
don't
want
to
where
they
have
some
incentive.
Not
to
now.
There
is
a
an
annual
review.
I've
gone
through
this
I
represent
other
developers
gone
through
this
on
many
occasions.
K
I
have
never
had
an
occasion
where
there
has
ever
been
a
question
about
whether
the
developer
could
go
faster
and,
for
some
reason,
wasn't
usually
what
the
annual
review
has
to
do
with
is
whether
there's
infrastructure
things
that
were
required
to
do
and
we'd
like
to
move
some
infrastructure
things.
I
had
those
types
of
management
things,
but
I've
never
had
a
situation
where
any
developer
has
ever
been
trying
not
to
sell
houses
as
quick
as
they
can
there's.
Also
a.
K
About
how
it's
going
to
be
financed-
and
frankly,
we
haven't
worked
that
out.
That's
one
of
the
provisions
in
the
development
agreement
is
that
we
would
have
to
come
up
with
a
financial
arrangement
that
that
works
and,
as
I
said,
that's
going
to
be
the
most
challenging
part
of
this,
because
the
time
when
you
don't
have
cash
flow
is
during
the
first
three
years.
So
so
it's
a
it's
a
challenge
for
us
in
order
to
get
that
get
that
in
place.
I've
talked
to
mr.
K
K
F
I
A
K
Well,
no,
we've
we've
submitted
a
draft
to
the
city,
and
so
we
don't
have
any
issues
with
the
draft
that
we
submitted.
We
haven't
heard
comments
back,
but
I
believe,
based
on
my
conversations
with
mr.
Holland
that
it
should
be
acceptable
to
the
city.
The
way
it's
drafted,
but
I
think
what
the
staff
and
attorneys
are
waiting
for
us
to
get
direction
from
you,
rather
than
going
off
on
their
own
and.
E
F
F
A
D
So
Eddie
I'm
gonna
direct
this
to
you
so
I
understand
the
developers
did
desire
to
have
the
development
agreement
and,
more
importantly,
the
entitlements
go
out
as
long
as
possible
and
I
understand
that
that's
probably
helpful
for
their
financing
and
I'm
not
concerned
that
they
don't
want
to
sell
houses.
What
I'm
concerned
about
is
them
not
building
them
again?
There
are
too
many
examples
in
Palm
Springs
of
when
we
had
an
economic
shift.
We
had
cleared
areas.
D
G
D
G
What
I
haven't
seen
and
you
haven't
seen
that
the
document
in
here
doesn't
have
that
I've
already
noted
for
myself,
at
least
for
you,
council,
member
Roberts,
you're,
recommending
a
performance
schedule
with
respect
to
the
phasing
and
by
the
way
the
developers
got
all
this
worked
out
in
their
own
pro
forma
and
with
respect
to
their
own
plan
for
construction
development
marketing.
It
shouldn't
be
difficult
for
us
to
give
you
that
short
leash
that
you're
looking
for
and
give
you
that
annual
review
process
which,
by
the
way,
is
statutory.
D
So
that's
my
concern,
so
it's
difficult
for
me
looking
at
the
development
agreement
with
a
time
on
it
to
not
have
what
you're
describing
to
not
have
the
performance
schedule
so
yeah.
It's
this
20-year
thing
that
I'm
struggling
with
and
the
dollar
amount,
because
I,
don't
the
dollar
amount
thing.
You
know
that
is
being
recommended
by
the
Planning
Commission
I
guess
got
worked
out
at
the
Planning
Commission
I.
Just
wonder
if
you
know
frankly
before
we
be
money
on
the
table
or
how
we
should
be
looking
at
this.
G
G
D
Don't
need
that
from
them,
but
obviously
the
city's
gonna
want
one
and
demand
one
right.
So
I
guess
when
it
comes
back,
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
some
sort
of
performance
schedule
that
makes
sense
for
the
20
years
or
adjust
the
timing.
20
years
just
seems
like
a
long
entitlement
for
this,
and
you
know
these.
You
know
these
entitlements
have
values,
I
get
why
developers
want
them
and
want
them
for
as
long
as
possible
and
we've
seen
properties
rise
and
fall
in
value
or
sell
or
not
sell.
G
I
will
tell
you
that
one
of
the
stickier
little
pieces
of
negotiation
regarding
these
agreements
as
they're
often
finalized,
is
what
is
a
force
majeure
event.
What
is
going
to
toll
the
time
with
respect
to
the
performance
schedule,
so
you're
you're,
hitting
as
my
Civil
Procedure
professor
used
to
say,
you're,
hitting
the
nail
with
your
head
you're
right
on
this
is
exactly
what
we
try
to
accomplish
in
the
agreement.
We
try
to
give
you
as
much
certainty
in
a
completely
uncertain
world
as
we
as
we
can.
G
G
G
D
Know,
frankly,
these
well
obviously
before
anything
yet
before
anything
else
opens
I
mean
I,
I,
think
that
that
would
be
more
based
on
allowing
them
to
to
sell
or
or
get
CFO
on
anything
else,
but
I.
You
know,
I,
frankly,
would
trust
Marcus
to
give
us
that
performance
schedule
and
some
ways
you
know
and
some
motivation
in
it.
If
things
start
going
astray,
that's
my
concern.
D
F
E
E
E
L
Part
in
this
role,
besides
the
design
and
the
technical
part,
it's
dealing
with
the
banks
and
making
this
a
financial,
financially
viable
project
and
I
can't
tell
you
enough.
We've
done
handstands
through
the
last
five
years,
trying
to
come
up
with
a
project.
That's
phased!
That
makes
sense
financially
to
add
clauses
to
put
those
kinds
of
language
that
you're
talking
about
into
this
agreement
is
absolutely
fatal.
We
are
back
to
a
decibel,
I
can't
say
it
any
clearer.
E
L
Is
not
a
reasonable
time
frame,
I'm
being
really
blunt
with
you
in
order
to
get
this
thing
financed
through
a
bank
as
soon
as
I
walk
in
and
say?
Okay,
we've
got
to
do
this
by
this
date
and
this
my
dist:8
in
the
Coachella
Valley
in
California.
Today
the
bank
will
say
no
I
won't
even
get
to
the
mid
level
of
the
bank
I'll
get
killed
at
the
very
lowest
level.
It's
not
possible
so.
L
Really
the
structure
of
the
project
itself,
it's
what
we've
already
done
with
the
phasing.
It's
saying
we're
working
from
one
end
to
the
other
in
a
logical
manner,
which
is
what
we've
done
all
the
work
that
we've
done
with
the
staff
and
from
an
engineering
standpoint
and
the
conditions
that
we
worked
out
with
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
incentive
becomes,
quite
frankly
the
market.
It
becomes.
Does
this
project
work
and
that's
the
feedback
that
I
get
from
the
development
community
in
order
to
sell
houses?
L
And
there
are
a
lot
of
projects
in
the
Coachella
Valley
right
now
that
are
dead
or
there
they're
standing
dead
and
people
don't
know
it
yet.
But
what
we've
done
is
structure
a
project
that
makes
sense
financially
so
that
it's
successful
but
to
put
in
a
poison
pill.
You've
got
to
do
this
by
this
date.
L
L
L
A
But
you
know
at
the
bottom
of
page
three:
it's
in
the
last
paragraph
says
the
developer
elected
to
comply
with
Lu
2.2
by
offering
to
make
a
payment
in
lieu
fees
for
the
city
to
allow
the
city
to
acquire
open
space
elsewhere
in
the
exchange
for
the
debt
density,
transfer
and
land
use,
designation,
changed
associated
with
the
property,
so
I
think
it's
reasonable
for
us
for
us
to
ask.
When
will
you
be
paying
the
what
you've
agreed
to
pay
correct.
E
And
then,
on
the
number
of
years
that
the
20
years,
could
you
live
with
that
with
it
we're
going
to
bring
back
performance
schedule?
So
those
are
the
two
main
issues
that
we
needed:
some
direction
on.
What
the
performance
schedule
is
yeah
Marcus
was
there
any
other
final
page,
because
the
skip
is
now
off
the
table.
Correct.
Is
there
any
other
issues
that
we
need
a
direction
on
the.
J
J
D
A
C
A
D
J
E
Well,
that
could
manifest
it
in
a
couple
ways:
either
that
that
price
is
is
different
and
and
we
can
handle
it
with
the
dollars
we
have
or
could
it
require
a
bridge
loan
from
another
fund
such
as
the
general
fund,
etc,
etc.
Now,
those
may
be
things
they're,
not
even
interested
in
but
they're
it
creates
challenges.
So
that's
why
we're
gonna
go
back
and
continue
negotiations
with
the
developer
to
see
if
we
can
get
agreement
to
present
to
you.
That
would
be
acceptable.
All.
D
Right
I
mean
I
sense
that
you
guys
get
get
the
things
that
we
have
interest
in
I
mean
I,
know
if
we've
expressed
them
all,
but
do
you
feel
comfortable
to
go
back
and
craft,
something
that
makes
us
feel
confident
that
this
project
will
go
forward,
won't
be
dropped
or
sold
part
way
through
her
left
us
holding
the
bag,
and
then,
furthermore,
are
we
requiring
bonding
and
things
like
that
on
this
around
this
project?
Yes,.
I
I
A
D
A
I
J
A
I
D
I
No
I
think
you
don't
know
what
you're
getting
yourself
into
so
the
what
you
won't
be
here.
No
I
mean
what
what
the
the
event
that
the
amount
of
drawings
etc
required
for
final
PD
and
the
detail
is
something
that
probably
doesn't
need
to
be
at
the
level
we
look
at
the
Planning
Commission
really
well.
D
H
A
I
Okay,
so
that
so,
if
I
understand
right
that
the
Planning
Commission
recommendations
also
say
that
the
final
design
of
the
park,
incorporating
what
I'm
assuming
were,
was
the
list
from
the
Planning
Commission
that
that
the
final
develop
plans
will
have
the
final
drawings
for
that
for
the
park
as
well.
Is
that
correct.
E
H
E
E
I
You
don't
I
mean
we,
we
looked
I
can't
remember
if
it
was
this
council
or
not,
but
but
we
looked
at
the
an
initial
DDA
when
we
approved
this
project
earlier
I
mean
we
look
at
a
a
strictly
a
draft.
An
was
explained
that
way.
There
was
a
draft,
so
I've
seen
it
before
I.
Think
I've
I
can't
remember
if
it
was
in
their
draft.
We.
I
D
I
C
G
D
I
G
I
G
I
I
F
K
This
is,
this
is
actually
pretty
simple,
so
the
draft
you
have
in
here
is
a
draft
that
I
prepared
that
we
were
ready
to
sign.
It
was
based
on
the
idea
that
my
client
would
pay
roughly
$6,000
per
unit
on
the
per
unit
basis
and
it
would
add
up
to
2.5
million
dollars.
That's
what
my
client
was
was
willing
to
do,
and
the
proposal
that
that
has
been
circulating
between
myself
and
mr.
Holland
changes
about
five
sentences
in
this
agreement.
Changes
are
not
minor,
they
are
major
changes,
but
they're
only
about
five
senses.
G
I
can
also
add
to
mr.
Allens
comments.
Is
that
you've
already
got
entitlements
on
this
project?
This
is
the
business
deal
and
it's
a
very
complex
document
and
council.
Member,
of
course,
is
right.
You
have
to
know
what
you're
looking
at,
and
there
are
some
details
that
I
will
want
to
look
at
with
mr.
Allens,
such
as
force
majeure,
particularly
in
the
event
that
the
performance
schedule
is
an
important
element
which
it
is
to
this
council,
so
there's
probably
less
drafting
and
more
negotiating
to
do,
which
is
why
I
think
dr.
E
E
E
I
would
note
that
this
is
been
revised.
We
added
some
items
from
last
night's
meeting.
I
wouldn't
know
just
draw
your
attention
to
the
bottom
of
the
page
on
September
20th,
that
is
the
Jewish
holiday
of
Rosh,
Hashanah
and,
and
my
recommendation
is
that
we
post
move
that
meeting,
cancel
that
meeting
and
either
move
it
or
depending
upon.
What's
on
the
agenda,
we
may
just
get
skip
the
meeting
when.
A
D
D
E
C
H
C
F
Comments,
you
know
a
couple
things,
so
one
is
for
the
19th.
We
probably
need
a
discussion
item
on
ballot
measures
just
in
case
we
need
more
feedback,
so
City
Attorney
could
have
a
final
draft
of
whatever
is
being
brought
back
on
the
26,
not
just
a
report
we
may
need,
and
if
we
don't
need
it,
we
don't
need
it,
but
we
may
need
discussion
on
that.
So.
F
F
Options
right
a
couple
drafts
right,
so
I
would
add
that
we
probably
need
something
on
the
budget
and
one
item
dr.
Reddy
is
doesn't
healthcare
district
is
finalizing
what
we
need
to
do
to
get
the
match
money.
So
we
want
to
that.
It's
probably
a
budget
item
right.
You
know
what
we
need
to
show
to
get
the
match
so.
E
F
A
F
F
J
D
E
E
C
C
E
And
and
I
would
just
note
that
part
of
one
of
the
reasons
we
can
do
it
on
the
19th
is,
if
you
look
to
the
urgency,
sign
ordinance
extension.
As
you
see,
the
actual
new
ordinance
is
not
on
there.
So
what
we
were
going
to
do
is
just
extend
the
current
urgency.
Ordinance
should
be
two
years
of
urgency
quicker
and
then,
and
then
we.
F
Okay
and
then
so
question
just
came
up
earlier,
which
is
science
and
we
talked
about
the
signs
at
Thomas,
Plaza
sort
of
the
twelve
five
forty
foot
sign
whatever
it
was,
but
the
sign
that
goes
to
plan
it
right
is
that
correct.
There's
that
Connor
two
planning
already.
What
is
the
status
of
that
approved
done?
Sorry.
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F
F
H
D
C
B
G
F
D
B
D
B
A
B
D
B
I
I
E
E
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F
H
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F
A
E
The
one
thing
I
can
say
on
that
issue:
if
the
attorney
is
fine
with
having
this
meeting
with
councilman
cores
and
and
the
cheap,
and
we
understand
the
issue,
then
we'll
know
whether
it's
something
we
can
bring
sooner
if
we
have
to
work
things
out
and
it'll
take
longer
great.
So
we'll
do
that
meeting.
We
can
do
that.
Potentially
next
week,
yep.
F
H
I
I
B
D
I
I
But
it,
but
that
may
be
something
that
yeah
stab,
that
planning
staff
may
not
see
that
at
the
counter,
where,
if
it's
hard
and
fast
or
they
look
in
the
book
and
say
oh
I
can't
do
that
because
it's
at
a
signalized
intersection.
You
know
I'm
just
throwing
this
thing
or
it's
a
property,
that's
greater
than
two
acres
or
something
mean
I,
don't
know,
but
if
we
I
think
that
I
don't
know
what
we
can
do
on
this
at
this
point.
H
B
G
I
A
I
Then
the
the
the
the
other
issue
was
I'd
like
to
call
something
up
for
that.
Like
initiate
a
council
review.
Thank
you
plan
for
the
wording
it's
the
there
were.
There
was
a
project.
It
is
a
bi,
safe
access
out
near
the
peaker
plant.
On
the
other
side
of
the
freeway,
it
is
a
grow
facility
of
prefabricated
greenhouse
which
is
fine
and
a
modular
unit
for
their
offices
etc.
I
Planning
Commission
did
not
require
them
to
do.
Any
landscaping
did
not
require
them
to
do
really
any
improvements.
That
way
now.
Part
of
the
problem
is:
there's
no
potable
water
source
out
there
they're
having
to
provide
tanks,
but
if
they're
providing
tanks
to
water
the
marijuana
they
can
provide
tanks
to
water,
some
landscaping
or.
D
So
it's
going
to
say
we
have
been
down
this
road
and
I.
Remember
on
the
Planning
Commission,
when
we
were
something
in
that
area
and
we
wanted
to
ask
it
was
a
gate
or
something
I.
Don't
remember
fun.
Maybe
you
do
and
it
was
just
determined
that
nothing
will
live
out
there,
but
it
doesn't
have
to
be
make
it.