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Hey
just
for
everybody's
information,
we're
having
a
little
bit
of
a
technical
issue,
getting
some
of
the
data
that
we
need
to
be
able
to
put
up
this
evening
and
some
demographic
data
so
be
a
delay
of
five
or
ten
minutes,
because
we
really
can't
start
without
that
data.
So
please
bear
with
us
for
a
few
minutes.
Sorry.
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C
B
A
Thank
you,
and
before
we
start
I'd
like
to
just
to
give
a
brief
apology
to
the
people
who
are
watching
at
home,
as
well
as
the
people
here
in
the
in
the
chamber,
we
had
a
little
bit
of
a
technical
problem.
Some
of
the
data
we
needed
for
the
meeting
tonight
was
not
available
and
we
had
to
low
to
upload
that
data.
So
my
apologies
for
holding
people
out
for
a
little
bit.
Mr.
cockin,
would
you
please
give
a
report
of
the
closed
session.
D
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
prior
to
convening
in
closed
session,
the
City
Council
did
vote
unanimously
to
add
an
item
of
existing
litigation
to
the
council's
consideration
in
closed
session,
that
is,
the
eat-off
that's
eh,
Oh
F
Canyon
View
LLC
versus
city
of
Palm
Springs
case
to
consideration
in
closed
session.
D
None
of
the
other
items
noticed
were
considered
because
there
was
insufficient
time
with
respect
to
one
of
the
items
considered
in
closed
session
this
evening.
The
council
did
determine
that
it
wished
to
make
a
release
of
the
entire
report
issued
by
NDC
national
demographics
corporation,
the
city's
demographer
in
relation
to
these
districting
proceedings
that
we've
been
engaged
in
for
some
time.
The
full
report
is
actually
down
below
our
podium
here
available
to
the
public.
Should
anyone
wish
to
see
a
copy?
It's
a
total
of
31
slides,
including
title
slides.
D
A
B
A
Thank
you
so
that
will
be
available
to
the
public
here
in
very
short
order.
Thank
You,
mr.
mayor
okay,
thank
you
our
first
hour
person
only
item
is
evening.
Is
the
public
hearing
to
consider
introduction
of
an
ordinance
to
change
the
city's
electoral
system
from
an
at-large
by
district
elections,
with
respect
to
electing
members
of
the
City
Council
establishing
boundaries
and
sequencing
of
elections
with
the
districts
pursuant
to
Elections
Code
section
1,
zero,
zero
one
zero?
We
will
open
the
public
hearing
and
receive
public
testimony.
First.
Do
we
have
any
staff
report
I.
B
On
a
roll
mayor
and
city
council,
this
is
a
public
hearing
for
your
consideration
to
a
dot
a
map
and
to
introduce
an
ordinance
with
which
would
enact
district
elections
within
the
city.
Following
this
action,
the
City
Council,
if
it
introduces
the
ordinance,
would
adopt
the
ordinance
at
its
meeting
on
December
19th.
B
There
are
two
versions
of
the
map
that
I
want
to
point
out
version.
One
is
what
was
approved
by
the
City
Council.
At
its
last
meeting
version
two
makes
one
slight
modification
to
the
Sun
more
neighborhood.
There
are
three
residences
in
that
neighborhood
that
were
inadvertently
placed
into
district,
3
or
I'm
sorry
placed
into
district
4,
which
should
have
been
placed
in
district
3.
So
the
demographer
did
a
census,
split
and
move
those
three
residences
into
district
3.
With
that
I
defer
to
the
subcommittee
a
to.
E
A
Of
the
questions
of
staff
before
we
open
public
comments.
Okay
with
that,
we
will
open
the
public
comments
and
mr.
caulk
and
please
confirm
that
this
evening
we
had
you
know.
Unfortunately,
at
a
previous
meeting,
people
wanted
to
comment
on
things
other
than
the
maps
and
only
the
maps
were
on
the
agenda.
But
tonight
the
entire
ordinance
is
up
for
discussion.
A
So
anyone
who
wishes
to
discuss
anything
related
to
the
ordinance
that
we
are
have
under
consideration,
whether
its
districts
number
of
districts,
location,
the
districts
virtually
anything
related
to
this
ordinance
is
open
for
public
comments.
Correct,
yes,
okay,
just
making
sure
that's
clear.
Okay,
we
have
one
two
three,
four,
five,
six,
seven
people
who
want
to
speak
right
now
and
our
first
speaker
with
we
will
open
the
public
comments.
First
speakers
norm,
king
followed
by
Judy
deer
track,
David
Freedman
and
then
Robert
Findlay.
F
My
remarks
tonight
also
reflect
those
Antonio.
Aguilar
could
not
be
here.
He's
easel
I
understand
the
city,
its
potential
liability,
if
you
did
not
transition
to
districts.
That
said,
I
do
not
believe
that
the
state
law
allows
the
City
Council
to
overturn
a
voter,
approved
City
Charter.
Contrary
to
your
accusations,
I
believe
that
voter
Rights
Act
does
apply
to
Palm
Springs,
but
that,
because
of
our
charter
language,
the
court
must
first
determined
that
the
city
has
racially
polarized
voting.
There
is
no
documentation
that
such
exists
you've
chosen
to
eliminate
the
directly
elected
mayor.
F
In
doing
so,
you
are
imposing
your
personal
preference
versus
the
preference
approved
by
the
voters.
You
know
that
the
Act
especially
allow
cities
to
have
a
directly
elected
mayor.
You
know
that
many
cities
have
districts
and
a
directly
elected
mayor.
You
know
that
the
city
attorney
attorneys
sue.
The
attorney
suing
Palm
Springs
did
not
object
to
Rancho
Cucamonga
retaining
its
directly
elected
mayor.
You
clearly
could
have
negotiated
a
similar
settlement
for
Palm
Springs.
What
I
find
most
appalling
is
the
council's
rhetoric.
The
districts
will
make
us
a
more
racially
inclusive
City.
F
The
emperor
has
no
clothes,
but
the
council
pretends
the
districts
will
make
a
difference.
Even
in
district
1,
there
will
be
several
hundred
more
non-hispanic
white
voting
than
Hispanics
by
a
ratio
of
almost
two
to
one.
The
working
group
made
additional
recommendations
which
have
enacted,
if
enacted,
will
further
corrupt
our
civic
culture,
such
as
each
council
person
having
a
full-time
staff
person.
F
A
G
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Judy
dear
track.
Mr.
Aggarwal
are
also
expressed
his
disappointment.
He
has
the
flu
when
I
woke
up
and
found
out
one
morning
that
all
of
a
sudden
I
no
longer
had
the
right
to
elect
a
mayor
and
that
I
was
voting
for
one
of
five
members
of
a
City
Council
rather
than
voting
for
five
members.
The
first
thing
I
did
was
go
to
this
city
charter
and
find
out
as
a
voter
and
Palm
Springs.
G
What
rights
that
city
charter
gave
me,
because
that
City
Charter
prevails
as
a
constitutionally
enacted
mandate,
and
it
is
a
mandate
that
supersedes
anything
the
City
Council
can
do.
The
second
thing
I
did
is
I.
Looked
at
the
legal
brief
I'm,
an
attorney
myself
and
I'm.
Also
an
urban
planner
and
I.
Looked
at
the
legal
brief
of
best
best
and
Krieger
that
was
submitted
on
behalf
of
the
city.
That
indicated,
you
had
used
a
government
code
section
three,
four,
eight
eight
six
I
called
a
Senate
Rules,
Committee
and
I
talked
directly
to
the
legal
people.
G
In
that
committee,
they
told
me
that
no
charter
city
is
allowed
to
use
that
provision
to
bypass
a
general
election
of
the
people
for
elected
mayor
and
elected
City
Council
members
and
make
a
determination
that
you
can
in
enact
districts
by
an
ordinance.
I
went
to
the
legislative
analysis
of
two
different
iterations
of
that
bill,
both
of
them
specifically
say
in
the
legislative
analysis.
They
are
not
applicable
for
charter
cities
to
use
to
bypass
a
vote
of
the
people.
G
What
really
disturbs
me
about
this
is
I've
also
heard
your
attorneys
say
two
reasons
number
one
to
avoid
the
expensive
litigation.
More
importantly,
that
you
trust
your
own
judgment
better
than
the
judgment
of
the
people
with
respect
to
the
future
of
the
city
you're
displacing
us
I
want
to
know
what
qualifies
you
to
do
that.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
H
Good
evening
mayor
moon,
mayor
proton,
chorus
and
council
members,
my
name
is
David
Friedman,
as
I
stated
that
your
November
29
meeting
I
have
been
deeply
involved
in
the
districting
process,
submitting
maps
and
comments
and
tending
many
of
the
community
forums
in
all.
But
one
of
your
public
hearings
as
we
reach
the
end
of
this
process.
H
I
would
like
to
commend
you
and
the
CVRA
community
working
group
for
your
tireless
work
in
achieving
the
goals
set
out
in
the
statement
of
principles
that
Council
adopted
in
May
I
support,
Palm
Springs
district
map
v2
as
the
district
boundaries
map,
and
feel
that
it
truly
represents
how
we,
as
community
members,
identify
our
respective
communities
communities
of
interest
throughout
the
city.
Thank
you
for
having
not
only
reached
out
but
listened
to
the
community
over
the
past
seven
months.
H
A
H
Mayor
City,
Council
and
staff,
my
name
is
Robert
friendly
for
the
people
who
don't
know
me
and
haven't
seen
me
up
here
several
times:
I'm
a
resident
full
time
resident
in
Palm
Springs,
but
more
to
the
point.
I'm
a
voter
in
Palm,
Springs
I've,
never
made
it
a
secret
I,
don't
believe
in
the
district
elections,
but
I
also
don't
believe
in
fighting
the
tide.
H
H
On
one
hand,
you
should
trust
the
voters
to
choose
the
one
person
they
feel
is
most
qualified
and
represent
us
as
a
city.
On
the
other
hand,
apparently,
the
mayor
represents
a
position
of
power
that
each
of
you
once
any
city
council
member
who
votes
for
a
rotating
mayor
appointed
by
the
City
Council
from
within
their
own
membership,
will
in
perpetuity
lose
my
support
and
the
support
of
anyone.
I
can
convince
or
any
position
higher
than
custodian
to
the
dog
park,
as
shown
on
page
25
of
the
staff
report.
H
A
B
That
you
approve
and
adopt
the
map
v2
and
not
break
out
the
three
households
from
some
more.
These
are
three
residents
that
are
very
involved
in
our
neighborhood
and
they
would
like
to
share
the
same
council
representative
with
their
neighbors
and
also
for
the
sake
of
the
neighborhood
communications
and
campaigning.
It
makes
perfect
sense
to
approve
the
v2
map.
Thank
you.
B
My
name
is
Rick
Berg
and
I
live
in
sunnmøre.
In
fact,
I
live
in
one
of
the
three
houses
that
will
be
in
a
different
district
from
the
rest
of
sunnmøre.
If
you
approve
map
version,
one
I
have
been
on
the
board
of
the
sunnmøre
neighborhood
organization
for
three
years.
We're
a
small
compact,
neighborhood
sunnmøre
wants
all
of
its
area
to
be
in
one
council
district.
It
would
be
a
shame
if
three
of
our
homes
were
divided
off
from
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood
by
a
census
tract
boundary.
B
A
C
Good
evening
hi,
all
I
am
a
lifelong
resident
of
Palm.
Springs
I
was
also
one
of
the
co-chairs
of
the
CVR.
A
community
working
group-
I
haven't
been
here
in
a
minute
because
it's
been
a
busy
season.
Anyways,
it's
been
a
long
process.
Thank
you
so
much
for
sticking
through
it.
Thank
you
for
the
support
I'm
here
representing
the
CVR
working
group
and
I
would
like
to
reiterate
much
of
what
we
submitted
in
our
report
earlier
this
year
to
council
and
that
five
districts
which
necessitates
the
roading.
C
The
rotating
mayor,
is
the
best
to
meet
the
goals
of
the
CRA.
It
also
prevents
the
dilution
of
minority
voting
blocks
and
gets
us
the
strongest
majority
minority
district
in
district
1.
We
also
believe
that
five
districts
meets
the
objectives
of
the
CBR
a
better
than
four,
and
we
also
just
believe
it's
good
government,
and
so
with
that
said,
we'd
like
to
voice
our
support
for
the
ordinance
tonight
and
thank
you
for
the
work
in
modifying
and
amending
the
maps
to
listen
to
the
residents
and
their
concerns
about
which
district
they
are
in.
Thank
you.
C
A
I
First
of
all,
I
just
want
to
say
how
proud
I
am
of
this
city
for
the
way
we
handled
the
demand
letter
we
received.
We
quickly
unanimously
move
forward.
We
set
really
strong
statement
of
principles.
We
appointed
a
working
group
who
probably
spent
by
now
700
hours
working
on
this.
We
had
30-plus
community
meetings,
our
staff
did
an
incredible
job
and
no
city
has
spent
as
much
time
or
has
had
as
much
public
input
as
we
have.
I
B
I
You
and
we
sent
every
address
business
and
residents
in
the
city
to
mailers,
telling
people
about
it
and
telling
them
how
they
could
come
and
share
their
views
at
these
public
forums
and
we
put
a
bus
shelters
throughout
the
city
as
well.
That's
all
correct,
okay
and
I
appreciate
not
everyone
looks
at
their
mail
and
not
everyone
sees
the
bus,
shelters
and
not
everyone
is
gonna
pay
attention,
but
there's
only
so
much
we
can
do
to
make
people
aware
of
what
we're
doing.
I
Used
to
be
me,
no
more
with
that
I
just
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
one
thing:
just
the
subcommittee
has
recommended
the
v-2
mat,
so
just
so.
The
rest
of
the
council
in
the
public
knows
that
fixes
that
issue
with
sunnmøre
and
I
just
want
from
our
attorneys
that
there's
a
reason
you
don't
want
to
split
census
tracts,
because
if
it's
too
many
people
it
throws
off
population
base,
but
looking
at
the
numbers
and
those
districts,
three
houses,
even
if
they
were
party
houses,
are
not
going
to
create
a
problem.
Correct.
I
I
We
have
been
probably
the
most
transparent
city
that
they
have
ever
seen,
sometimes
to
their
frustration.
We
have
shared
data.
We
shared
reports,
we've
shared
legal
opinions
on
the
website
throughout
the
process,
because
I
think
it's
really
important
that
the
community
knows
why
we're
doing
this-
that
we're
not
doing
this
in
secret,
that
there
are
reasons
and
often
you
don't
share
stuff
that
might
lead
someone
to
sue
you,
but
we
felt
this
is
too
important
not
to
share
the
data
and
ultimately
anyone
who
Sue's
us
is
going
to
figure
out
the
data
anyway.
I
The
demographer
has
found
that
there
is
the
probability
of
racially
polarized
voting
in
a
number
of
elections,
most
notably
the
2015
mayor's
election,
which
is
on
page
20
of
the
report,
that's
out
front
and
is
also
on
a
different
page
in
people's
on
the
website.
Unless
that
staff
reports
up
it
also,
there
has
been
some
in
some
of
the
council
races
for
folks
who
are
up
here,
so
it's
possible
in
a
lot
of
races,
but
it's
probable
in
a
number
now
there's
one
time
the
demographers
says
talks
about
overall,
a
hint
of
racially
polarized
voting.
I
D
I've
said
before
at
our
various
meetings
that
you
can't
be
a
little
bit
pregnant,
this
is
what
we're
talking
about.
If,
in
point
of
fact,
there's
racially
polarized
voting,
the
Voting
Rights
Act
is
clear
in
its
prescription,
you
go
from
at-large
to
district
elections
to
eliminate
that
I
defer
to
mr.
priest.
If
he
wants
to.
D
J
Thank
You,
mr.
and
mr.
mayor
members,
the
council,
one
last
point
I'll
add
to
that,
is
the
CVR
a
sets
such
a
low
bar
to
make
a
legal
claim
that
even
some
evidence,
if
it
may
not
be
you
know,
beyond
a
reasonable
doubt,
like
some
people
think
and
stuff,
a
small
amount
of
evidence
can
be
sufficient
to
sustain
a
claim.
I
Thank
you
and
then
I
know
you've
shared
with
a
subcommittee
mr.
Kotkin,
and
you
may
think
this
is
attorney-client
but
I.
Think
then
we'd
ask
the
council
to
waive
it.
How
strong
or
weak
I
won't
put
any
words
in
your
mouth.
You
think
our
defense
would
be
if
we
did
not
move
to
districts
based
on
the
data
that
has
now
been
shared
with
the
public
I'd.
D
I
J
if
you'd
like,
without
getting
into
a
specific
analysis
of
Palm
Springs
circumstances,
let's
analogize
to
other
cities
that
have
faced
these
challenges
to
date,
no
city
that
has
gone
into
court
and
fought
a
CVR
claim
is
one
that
includes
three
notable
charter
cities,
Modesto
Palmdale
and
recently
Santa
Monica
and
so
without
getting
into
Palm
Springs
particular
analysis.
I
can
tell
you
that
there
is
a
very
specific
context
here
within
the
CVRA
and
if
you
end
up
in
court,
it
tends
not
to
go
favorably
toward
the
cities
or
toward
the
public
agency.
Thank.
I
J
D
I
J
I
J
Tell
you
that
Santa
Monica
latest
I've
heard
is
a
their
own
attorneys
8,000,000,
and
the
case
was
only
recently
decided
on
the
merits
of
whether
they
need
to
transfer
over
to
districts
in
the
court
said.
Yes,
they
have
yet
to
go
to
the
remedies
phase
of
the
case
where
the
judge
would
actually
say
this
is
the
map
you'll,
use,
etc,
etc.
It's
usually
at
the
remedies
phase
where
it's
also
determined
how
much
in
attorneys
fees
you
would
pay
the
plaintiff.
So
we
don't
know
yet,
but
I'm
sure
it
will
be
a
significant
amount
and.
I
A
F
A
A
15
one
two,
forty
three
percent
citywide,
so
that
certainly
was
something
that
showed
how
the
voters
were
responding
to
a
gay,
african-american
and
running
for
mayor
for
the
first
time,
and
it
also
like
to
point
out
that
that
Ron
Odin
in
2006
I
believe
it
was
ran
for
the
legislature
and
he
and
I
said
he's
gay
african-american.
He
lost
by
less
than
a
hundred
votes.
So
there
have
been
examples.
A
I
I
mean
I'm
just
doing
it
based
on
the
report,
so
where
the
steep
line,
the
steeper
the
line,
the
more
racially
polarized
voting
means
and
both
mr.
odden
and
mr.
Wright
had
the
majority
of
Latinos
who
were
studied
because
that's
where
the
lawsuit
was
brought
compared
to
you
so
I'm.
Just
looking
at
the
data,
not
precincts
the
fact
that
we've
had
one
african-american
elected
well,
very
glad
we
did
in
80
years
to
me
is
not
something
to
wave
around
that.
We're
we're
really
good
on
electing
minorities,
we're
terrible
at
electing
minorities
in
the
city
anyway.
I
I
will
continue
my
comments
please.
As
far
as
some
of
the
arguments
on
charter
cities
needing
to
go
to
the
voters,
my
understanding
is
29
charter
cities
have
transitioned
to
district
elections
21
by
ordinance
from
the
council
8
by
court
order,
either
through
some
kind
of
settlement
or
because
they
were
sued
and
lost.
Is
that
correct.
J
I
I
I
I
A
I
D
D
Comfortable
okay,
let's
start
with
folks
outside
the
city,
you
heard
mr.
King
very
succinctly
even
somewhat
eloquently
articulated
position,
that's
different
from
what
you've
heard
from
mr.
priest
and
from
myself.
We
take
the
position
and
we
feel
very
well
grounded
in
the
position
that
the
City
Council
has
ample
authority
to
establish
these
districts.
I've
stated
in
public
on
a
number
of
occasions
and
in
writing
even
that.
D
From
our
vantage
point,
five
districts
is
more
consistent
with
the
with
the
Voting
Rights
Act,
beyond
a
shadow
of
a
doubt,
because
if
you
look
at
the
Voting
Rights
Act
itself
again
the
issue
we
discussed
earlier,
even
that
vestige,
even
that
little
piece
of
at
large
can
potentially
if
there's
racially
polarized
voting,
create
a
problem
and,
as
mr.
priest
told
you
it's
a
very,
very
easy
Hill
for
any
potential
plaintiff
to
climb.
I
would
add
to
that
issue.
D
The
notion
that
it's
been
raised.
It's
been
alleged
that
the
city
is
somehow
inappropriately
relying
on
the
government
code
section
that
you
heard
Ms
deer
track
mentioned.
That's
section
three,
four,
eight,
eight
six,
that's
long
been
I,
won't
say
the
linchpin,
but
one
of
the
important
elements
of
our
analysis
here
with
respect
to
the
Voting
Rights
Act.
You
have
the
ability
to
do
this
by
ordinance.
You
have
that
ability,
because
there's
a
statute
that
says
any
city
can
do
that.
D
D
There
is
in
point
of
fact,
some
ambiguity
in
the
legislative
history
of
that
most
recent
iteration
I've
made
extensive
investigation,
calling
a
number
of
different
committees
in
Sacramento
speaking
at
length
with
the
folks
that
have
spoken
with
Ms
deer
track
and
the
folks
that
originated
the
opinions
that
were
relayed
to
Miss
deer
track.
There
was
a
little
bit
of
telephone.
If
you
will
here
say.
D
I
spoke
today
in
fact
directly
to
the
attorney
that
formulated
the
belief
or
expressed
the
opinion
that
some
charter
cities
do
in
fact
need
to
amend
their
charter
before
they
can
go
ahead
and
do
this.
I
strenuously
disagree
with
that.
The
group
that
I'm
article
that
I'm
explaining
right
now
on
the
outside
has
indicated
all
sorts
of
potential
challenges
might
be
forthcoming.
They've
indicated
some
type
of
attorney.
General
action
might
be
forthcoming.
D
They
there
have
been
discussions
about
potential
referenda
or
challenges
that
our
ballot
related
immediately
after
the
adoption
I've
had
discussions
along
those
lines
with
both
you
and
councilmember
Middleton
and
with
the
mayor,
and
my
understanding
is
that
there
are
people
in
the
community
that
feel
that
way
and
they're
entitled
to
feel
that
way.
It's
their
prerogative
when
we
retain
best
best
and
Krieger
to
provide
this
election
advice,
and
we
selected
mr.
priest
to
do
so.
D
He's
had
more
than
20
years
in
this
field,
I'm
highly
confident
in
his
analysis
regarding
the
strength
of
the
city's
legal
position
in
reliance
not
only
on
the
Voting
Rights
Act,
but
government
code,
34,
886
and
I'm
also
comfortable
that
the
potential
challenges
that
could
be
presented
can
be
overcome.
The
problem
is
that
some
of
the
challenges
and
potential
difficulties,
maybe
even
unintended
consequences
of
the
people
who
challenged
it,
could
end
up
costing
the
city
a
huge
amount
of
money.
D
If,
if
we
face
these
challenges,
because
it
could
delay
the
implementation
of
the
ordinance,
that
staff
is
recommending
that
you
introduce
this
evening,
we
want
you
to
introduce
that
ordinance,
because
we
did
negotiate
an
extension
with
mr.
Shankman
and
the
voters
project
that
he
represents
till
the
end
of
this
year
and
it's
my
belief
that
if
we
fail
at
this
juncture
to
adopt
an
ordinance
before
the
end
of
the
year
that
we
will
get
sued,
mr.
Shankman
quite
recently
has
not
been
granting
extensions,
such
as
the
one
that
he
gave
to
the
city
of
Palm.
D
Springs
is
the
intelligence
that
I
have
and
long
story
short.
Is
we
feel
that
there's
a
risk
here
and
it's
when
I
say,
there's
a
risk?
It's
not
that
we
feel
Palm
Springs
has
the
most
racially
polarized
voting
that
anyone's
ever
seen
or
that
it's
a
racist
City
or
that
it's
a
bad
City.
The
problem
is
that
the
Voting
Rights
Act
standard
that
we've
tried
to
explain
in
our
various
meetings
is
a
very
low
standard.
It's
very
easy
for
a
potential
plaintiff
or
petitioner
to
make
that
standard,
and
one.
I
D
Right
and
to
ignore
those
cases,
including
appellate
court,
absolutely
the
the
most
significant
in
my
estimation
and
I
would
be
happy
to
have
mr.
priests
comment
as
well
is
the
whole
rhaggy
decision
out
of
the
city
of
palmdale,
very,
very
broad
language,
dealing
with
what
happens
when
you
have
racially
polarized
voting,
and
essentially
the
de
pallet
Court
determined
that
that
is
an
issue
of
statewide
concern
when
you
have
that
problem.
That
is
the
the
target,
if
you
will,
what
the
Voting
Rights
Act
is
after
is
eliminating
that
problem.
D
I
See
mr.
priest
light
on
some
okay
and
I.
D
And
what
I
was
gonna
say
is
I
found
it
very
illuminating
when
the
primary
person
that
ms
deer
track,
according
to
my
understanding,
spoke
with
III,
talked
to
this
individual,
very,
very
poised,
very
professional,
very
knowledgeable.
But
when
I
asked
him
about
how
his
thoughts
about
this
statute
fit
into
the,
how
AG
decision
I
learned
that
he
hadn't
read
the
Jauregui
decision
now
he's
not
an
attorney.
It's
not
his
job.
To
read
that
case,
but
as
a
practical
matter
it
took
me
a
little
bit
of
back.
D
I
did
make
contact
as
I
told
you
today
with
the
attorney,
who
had
apparently
been
speaking
with
him
and
I
learned
a
great
deal
about
our
legislative
councils
office.
If
you
want
me
to
share
that
I'm
happy
to
the
the
bottom
line.
Is
that
any
statement
that
ms
berry
made
to
mr.
Saur
be'
mr.
Saur
by
being
the
individual
that
I
believe
his
dear
trek
spoke
with?
D
D
In
speaking
with
the
subcommittee
since
the
very
beginning
of
the
process,
we've
tried
to
identify
the
sort
of
multiple
fronts
that
the
city
is
trying
to
walk.
The
fine
line
between
that
is
mr.
Shankman
on
one
side,
who's
alleged
all
of
these
things
about
our
voting
history
and
folks
in
the
community
who
might
disagree
and
what
we've
tried
to
do
in
order
to
respond
to
all
of
that
is,
and
we've
had
the
direction
from
the
subcommittee
to
create
an
integrated
ordinance.
That
is
strong.
That
stands
on
its
own,
but
based
upon
a
very
broad
foundation.
D
It's
interwoven,
to
the
extent
that
it
creates
a
holistic
approach
to
the
challenges
that
have
been
made,
and
we
feel
it's
going
to
stand
the
test
of
any
any
challenge
that
that
issues
against
the
city.
Speaking
with
the
mayor,
he
shared
with
me
that
he
had
learned
that
there
were
people
in
the
community
who
might
be
looking
at
something
like
this
and
as
a
practical
matter.
He
asked
me
well
is
that
something
we
should
be
worried
about
and
I
shared
with
him
a
lot
of
the
same
things
that
I'm
sharing
now
with
the
subcommittee.
D
D
Speaking
specifically
with
the
two
of
you,
the
subcommittee,
we
definitely
did
discuss
the
possibility
of
a
referendum
and
what
we
might
be
able
to
do
with
respect
to
making
sure
that
the
ordinance
that
we
would
present
for
council
approval
would
be
strong
against
that
and
with
the
mayor.
He
also
advised
that
he
had
heard
about
this
in
the
community
as
being
a
potential
thing
that
might
happen.
Did.
I
D
D
Really
glad
you
asked
the
question
that
directly,
because
it
had
always
been
my
position.
We
were
strong,
but
after
I
made
my
inquiry
with
the
various
and
sundry
committee
representatives
in
Sacramento
reached
out
to
the
Attorney
General
as
well.
My
opinion
became
even
stronger
still
in
speaking
with
mr.
priest
and
having
him
detail
what
he
alluded
to
earlier.
The
fact
that
there
are
seven
cities,
seven
charter
cities
with
specific
at-large
provisions
written
into
their
charter-
that
have
done
this
by
ordinance.
Previously
that's
kind
of
the
end
of
the
ball
game.
For
me,.
L
B
L
J
Mr.
mayor
members
of
the
council,
I
think
I
can
speak
to
that.
There
are
two
possibilities
that
could
end
up,
resulting
from
that.
The
first
is,
the
city
decides
to
contest
it
in
court
and
obviously,
if
the
city
loses
be
in
the
same
situation
is
Santa,
Monica,
Palma,
etc.
Another
possibility
is
the
voters
vote
for
at-large
and
you
have
a
situation
like
they
had
with
Glendale
Unified
School
District,
where
litigation
ensued
and
then
the
Board
met
and
they
settled
the
litigation
and
the
court
honored
the
settlement
and
still
sent
them
to
by
district.
L
L
J
I
can
tell
you
is
that
this
is
a
very
special
I
would
dare
say,
unique
legal
situation
here
with
the
CVRA,
because
you
have
the
potential
for
an
election
and
then
the
court
overturning
those
results.
If
the
voters
vote
or
an
at-large
election
system,
so
it
it
makes
it
difficult
to
to
think
of
it
as
a
I'm
choosing
my
words
very
carefully,
it's
difficult
to
see
that
it's
a
true.
J
L
D
So
mr.
mayor,
hey,
if
I
may
interject
as
I
I
do
recall,
I
was
thinking
about
everything
that
I
said.
I
think
it
was
in
our
discussions
that
we
talked
about
the
various
things
that
could
be
referenda
individually.
The
four
versus
five,
the
direct
elect
mayor,
individual
issues
that
the
council
was
deciding
upon
and
I
wanted
to
add
that,
because
council
member
of
course
had
asked
and
I
said,
I
didn't
remember,
but
I
do
remember
us
talking
about
just
a
couple
of
those
issues
that
could
be
taken
individually
and
again.
A
Mr.
Cochran,
since
we're
going
into
client/attorney
privilege
who
wanted
to
point
out
that
I've
always
made
it
very
clear
to
you
and
the
city
manager
that
all
the
people
have
sent
me
emails
I
have
never
had
meetings
with
anyone,
who's
proposing
any
sort
of
referendum.
I've
never
worked
with
them,
I've.
Never
given
them
an
advice,
information,
nothing
all
I!
You
know
I
proceed.
You
can
receive
emails
on
your
being
to
that.
I
have
not
been
involved
in
that
because
personally
I
feel
that
would
have
been
unethical
for
me
to
do
so.
B
B
A
Both
agree,
the
ordinance
title
to
the
same
boat-
just
one
make
sure
yes,
okay,
since
we're
gonna,
be
voting
that
way.
I
just
I
just
want
to
make
one
a
statement.
A
However,
on
October
4th
the
council
voted
for
five
districts
and
to
abolish
the
directly
elected
mayor.
I
was
the
lone
vote
for
the
compromise
position
of
transitioning
in
four
districts
and
keeping
a
mayor,
elected
citywide
and
I
will
not
be
voting
in
support
of
this
ordinance,
because
I
feel
the
residents
of
Palm
Springs
could
have
been
allowed
and
should
have
been
allowed.
A
We
not
said
go
to
districts,
did
not
go
to
districts
was
said:
do
you
want
for
districts
or
do
you
want
five
districts?
So
because
of
that,
although
I
really
respect
all
the
work,
you
guys
have
done
all
the
hard
work
and
I've
been
to
you
know.
Virtually
all
the
original
meetings
in
the
public
I
didn't
go
to
many
of
the
map
meetings,
because
I
felt
most
of
the
maps
met
the
requirement
anyway.
They
were
really
well
done,
but
I'm
just
I'm.
A
E
Thank
You
mayor
as
we
as
we
come
to
the
end
of
this,
what's
what's
only
be
described
as
an
adventure,
an
adventure
from
the
Dyess
I
would
say
that
of
all
the
things
that
we
have
researched,
rehashed,
considered,
studied
and
talked
about.
I
think
this
one
has
been
more
thoroughly
looked
at
than
anything
else
and
for
all
the
right
reasons,
I
want
to
state
for
the
record
that
we
were
blindsided
by
this.
No
one
saw
this
coming.
E
You
know
from
racially
polarized
voting
I,
just
I
didn't
see
it
as
an
issue.
I
didn't
see
it
as
an
issue,
because
I
always
felt
that
the
people
that
got
elected
for
City
Council
in
Palm
Springs
did
so
and
did
so
in
a
way
that
you
only
see
in
small
towns
like
Palm
Springs.
It
was
because
that
person
had
substance,
and
hopefully
the
the
the
voting
public,
felt
that
that
person
could
bring
something
to
their
city
and
bring
some
level
of
leadership.
That
would
make
a
difference.
E
I
want
to
state
for
the
record
that
I
have
never
personally
supported
going
to
districts.
I
I
think
that
we
did
fine
in
at-large
voting,
I
think
that
anybody
that
could
have
been
elected
or
anybody
that
really
wanted
to
be
elected
and
went
through
the
process
of
proving
that
to
the
voters
would
have
been
elected
and
that's
any
color
and
that's
any
gender
and
I
think
we
are
a
shining
example
that
that
this
city
is
not
that
prejudice,
we're.
E
E
E
For
me
and
one
of
the
reasons
I
will
not
run
again
for
office
and
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
I,
don't
I,
don't
want
to
lose
that
ability
to
think
holistically
about
my
old
community
I
want
to
think
about
every
corner
of
our
city
rather
than
one
little
piece
of
it,
and
so,
given
that
I
will
simply
end
this
by
saying.
Not
only
is
this
been
a
thoroughly
researched
thoroughly
vetted.
E
An
extremely
open
process
I
think
it's
been
about
as
a
transparent
process
as
we've
ever
had,
because
as
this
council
of
all
the
councils,
I've
been
it
been
a
part
of
has
strived
for
that
that
new
level
of
transparency
and
I
think
this
process.
This
process
followed
that
and
even
tonight,
where
we
waived
attorney-client
privilege,
we
sort
of
took
the
last
step
in
that
transparency.
E
E
We
felt
that
the
decision
to
go
ahead
and
go
to
districting
was
a
better
decision
than
to
put
the
city
at
a
huge
risk
of
losing
millions
of
millions
of
dollars
in
a
lawsuit
that,
from
what
we
understand
is
a
given
city
simply
don't
win
this
battle
at
any
level
for
any
size.
Yet
it's
it
was
designed
to
fail.
It
was
designed
to
force
us
into
districting
and
in
as
much
as
I've
been
moving
forward
on
that
concept.
I
still
don't
support
districting
for
the
city
of
Palm,
Springs
I.
E
The
only
barrier
to
me
to
having
maybe
a
larger
group
of
people
run
and
win
for
office
and
City
Council
was
simply
campaign.
Finance
I've
always
believed
that
one
of
the
biggest
failures
in
our
country
is
campaign
finance
and
it
keeps
good
people
from
running
and
it
keeps
a
lot
of
corrupt
people
in
office
because
of
the
benefit.
It
also
forces
many
politicians
to
be
to
be
beholden
to
those
that
would
finance
them
and
keep
them
in
office.
E
That
was
the
biggest
barrier
of
anything
else
that
I
saw
in
campaigning.
Everything
else
comes
down
to
the
person
and
comes
down
to
substance.
The
money
unfortunately
made
a
difference.
I
had
to
raise
what
I
considered
a
gross
amount
of
money
to
win
a
city
council
seat
in
the
only
good
thing
I
see
out
of
coming
out
of
districting
is
hopefully
that
won't
be
the
case
anymore.
Hopefully,
people
can
do
it
for
a
whole
lot
less
money,
and
that
opens
up
a
lot
of
chances
for
a
lot
of
people
and
I.
E
K
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
we've
had
a
lot
of
meetings
on
this,
so
some
of
it
feels
like
deja
vu
where
we've
talked
about
this
but
I
do.
This
is
our
meeting
about
all
of
the
issues
so
I
do
want
to
repeat
a
few
points,
especially
that
have
been
brought
tonight.
I
didn't
prepare
any
comments
until
just
responding
to
some
of
the
public
comment
and
some
of
my
fellow
council
member
comments
as
well.
I
want
to
start
and
say,
I'm
really
proud
of
our
process.
K
I'm
extremely
proud
of
our
working
group,
who
are
dedicated
volunteers
who
spent
700
hours.
It's
really
incredible
the
work
that
you
did
for
our
city,
you
were
there
in
neighborhoods,
you
were
there
with
different
communities,
teaching
people
how
to
use
the
mapping
tools,
teaching
people
about
what
districts
means
so
really
grateful
for
your
service.
K
We
hired
an
outreach
consultant
to
do
the
work
of
reaching
out
to
the
spanish-speaking
community
and
the
Latino
latina
community,
and
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
with
the
Philippine
Filipino
American
community,
the
African
American
and
black
communities.
We've
really
tried
our
very
very
best
and
I
think
you
can
see
that
that
we've
spent
eight
months
doing
this
and,
in
a
course
of
time
that
most
cities
spend
maybe
just
a
few
weeks.
K
K
I
sounds
like
we
might
be
the
first
city
to
share
the
underlying
demographic
data
to
actually
take
a
risk
there
and
show
that
there
is
a
likelihood
that
there's
been
voter
dilution
of
minority
voters
in
the
city
of
Palm,
Springs
and
that's
important
to
say
we're
not
doing
this
for
for
no
reason
at
all,
we're
doing
this
to
remedy
I'm,
a
problem
that
we're
being
sued
and
it's
our
responsibility
to
take
action
and
to
remedy
those
wrongs.
And
that's
what
we're
doing
tonight.
K
K
We
talked
about
this
in
depth
when
this
litigation
was
brought
forward.
Should
we
put
this
to
a
vote
of
the
people?
The
reason
that
we
can't
is
that
we
don't
vote
on
civil
rights,
so
people,
those
of
us
who
lived
through
prop
8,
who
lived
through
fair
housing,
who
lived
through
lots
of
legislation
that
were
put
to
the
people
to
vote
on.
K
We
can't
vote
on
civil
rights,
we're
being
sued,
that
there
is
minority
voter
dilution
in
the
city
of
Palm,
Springs
that
that
minority
voters
can't
vote
for
their
preferred
candidates,
so
we're
being
sued
that
our
voting
system
is
problematic.
So
if
we
then
put
a
vote
on
civil
rights
to
that
voting
system,
that's
a
problem.
K
So
we
definitely
discussed
that
I
think
for
a
lot
of
issues
that
are
charter
issues
that
the
people
of
Palm
Springs
have
voted
on
before
we
want
to
bring
that
forward
to
the
voters,
but
in
this
issue,
where
there's
California
Voting
Rights
Act,
that
was
enacted
by
the
legislature
that
essentially
says
that
most
cities
and
most
districts
have
to
move.
Most
special
districts
have
to
move
to
districts.
K
We
are
following
that
state
law,
the
California
Voting
Rights
Act,
which
is
a
Civil
Rights
Act,
which
is
really
important,
I,
think
to
say
we
know
that
this
is
a
hard
process
for
our
residents.
We
know
that
change
is
hard.
We
know
that
you're
gonna
have
to
go
from
voting
from
five
people
to
to
one
in
your
district
and
that's
a
difference,
but
I
think
there
are
a
huge
number
of
benefits
to
having
district
elections
and
I'll
explain
some
of
those.
K
K
K
The
benefits
to
districting
are
that
it'll
be
cheaper
for
people
to
run
for
office,
so
you
won't
have
to
raise
an
obscene
amount
of
money
to
be
elected.
Obviously,
we'll
have
more
diversity
and
inclusion
for
people
sitting
up
here.
We've
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
numbers,
but
we
have
about
20-25
percent
I'm
Latino
Latino
residents
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
That
means
one
out
of
us.
Five
up
here
should
be
Latino
latina,
probably
every
single
time.
Obviously,
that's
not
our
history
having
one
black
mayor
doesn't
get
us
there
over
80
years
right.
K
We've
never
had
a
Latino
latina
mayor
city
council,
members
that
are
representative
we've.
Never
even
had
a
female
mayor
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
an
80
year.
I.
Think
that's
because
there's
a
little
bit
more
males
who
vote
in
Palm
Springs,
you
can
just
see
the
examples
of
how
voters
votes
are
diluted,
so
I
just
think.
K
That's
really
important
to
say:
there's
a
huge
number
of
benefits
to
districting
and
we're
already
seeing
how
districts
are
making
a
difference
in
Cathedral,
City
and
in
do
who
just
had
their
destructed
elections
for
the
first
time,
and
you
have
representatives
who
truly
represent
neighborhoods.
Now
we
do
have
a
problem
in
Palm
Springs
and
there
have
been
neighborhoods
that
have
been
left
behind
and
you
don't
have
to
go
so
far.
As
looking
at
the
loma
linda
study
about
the
health
disparities
in
in
gateway.
K
Does
our
highlands,
forty
percent
of
kids,
there
have
asthma,
that's
not
the
same
as
other
kids
and
other
neighborhoods
you
can
drive
through
and
and
and
walk
through
and
live
there
and
see
the
differences
in
the
disparities.
And
that's
what
happens
when
you
don't
have
representatives
from
certain
communities
on
City
Council's,
and
so
obviously
our
history
is
no
secret
to
anyone
about
section
fourteen
and
what
we're
remedying
here
in
creating
those
communities
of
interest
back
together
and
district.
A
L
L
L
It
is
also
like
Palm
Springs,
a
city.
The
at
one
time
was
a
fairly
conservative,
Enclave
and
a
city
that
evolved
into
being
an
a
very
progressive,
very
positive
city.
There
are
many
similarities
to
Palm
Springs
in
Santa
Monica,
not
the
least
of
which
people
from
moving
from
Santa
Monica
to
Palm
Springs,
frequently
feel
like
they're
moving
from
a
territory
they're
familiar
with
to
another
territory,
they're
very
familiar
with,
but
that
progressive
record
that
existed
in
Santa
Monica
did
nothing
to
protect
them
from
losing
a
lawsuit.
L
It
will
do
nothing
in
Palm
Springs
that
we
have
a
progressive
record
if
we
are
found
in
any
respect
to
be
in
violation
of
the
California
Voting
Rights
Act,
and
it
does
nothing
for
the
image
of
Palm
Springs,
a
city
that
intends
to
be
as
inclusive
as
possible
to
be
standing
in
opposition
to
the
inclusion
of
everyone
in
our
community.
As
has
been
noted
multiple
times
in
our
80-year
history,
one
member
of
the
african-american
community
has
been
elected
to
our
City
Council
one
member
of
the
Latino
community.
L
L
What
we've
seen
through
this
process
are
communities
that
have
truly
gotten
involved
that
have
not
previously
had
the
opportunity
to
have
their
voices
heard,
and
that
is
something
that
I
am
incredibly
proud
of.
The
Latino
mother,
who
said
that
she
had
been
in
this
town
for
over
20
years
raised
children,
and
no
one
had
ever
asked
her.
What
she
thought
that
conversation
would
have
never
taken
place.
But
in
our
city
we
organized
a
community
forum
that
was
conducted
almost
entirely
in
Spanish
and
was
advertised
that
it
was
going
to
be
conducted
in
Spanish.
L
The
Filipino
community
I,
remember
individuals
when
we
first
got
some
of
the
demographic
numbers,
seeing
that
there
was
approximately
five
percent
of
our
population
that
was
asian-american
asked.
The
question
is
that
for
real?
Is
that
accurate?
Because
for
so
many
individuals
the
Filipino
community
have
been
invisible
in
our
city?
That
is
starting
to
change,
and
it
is
only
starting
to
change,
because
the
outreach
that
took
place
is
part
of
this
process.
L
L
Let's
see
what
happens
over
the
course
in
the
next
few
years.
Let's
see
the
kind
of
people
that
get
elected
to
the
City
Council
in
2019
and
then
in
2021
I,
think
you're
going
to
be
pleased
and
impressed,
but
I'm
going
to
go
to
work
tomorrow
morning,
making
sure
that
we
do
everything
we
can
to
recruit
really
strong
people
who
care
about
the
city
as
a
whole
and
can
also
care
about
the
people
in
their
district.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
I
It
worked
out
well
for
us
that
the
councilmembers
who
are
up
are
in
live
in
the
district,
that's
up,
but
we
can't
shorten
the
terms
of
people
who
are
elected
a
year
ago
in
this
process
right,
we
can't
just
say
you're
up
in
the
year
and
they're
up,
you
know
they're
not
up.
In
our
case,
it
works
out
in
that
the
three
people
are
up
next
year
are
all
in
district
3,
which
is
next
year,
and
the
two
people
who
are
up
at
the
following
election
are
already
in
districts:
4,
&
5.
I
J
Mister
chorus,
all
of
you
will
continue
to
serve
in
your
council
seats
on
an
at-large
basis
until
the
natural
expiration
of
your
terms
in
2019
or
2020
1,
and
at
that
point
your
seat
will
be
elected
by
district
in
the
appropriate
district.
At
that
point,
hey.
I
I
At-Large
for
districts
would
have
a
significant
impact
on
diluting
a
minority
vote
versus
five
and
I
shared.
That
was
going
to
be
what
I
would
base
my
decision
first
and
foremost
on
and
that's
what
the
data
showed.
So
that
is
I
just
want
to
explain
my
reasoning
since
you
explained
yours
and
I
appreciate
yours
and
when
you're
diluting
them
an
already
vote,
you
can't
have
any
element.
That's
at-large
under
the
California
Voting
Rights
Act.
Is
that
correct?
I
Just
from
the
City
Attorney's
yep,
okay,
so
that
is
the
reasoning
that
I
think
five
is
legally
what
we
need
to
do
and
there
are
a
lot
of
other
reasons.
We've
already
discussed.
You
know
and
I
appreciate
your
comments.
Councilmember,
Roberts
and
I
think
when
it
comes
to
LGBT
it's
taken
a
long
time
for
the
city
to
get
where
we
are,
but
we
have
gotten
there.
But
you
know:
I
do
look
at
to
people
of
color
elected
in
80
years
to
say
we
need
to
do
better
and
I
do
agree
with
you.
I
One
of
the
factors
not
the
only
factor
is
cost,
and
if
you
look
at
our
neighboring
cities
who
just
did
districts
for
the
first
time,
it
costs
much
less
to
run.
Everyone
up
here
spent
in
excess
of
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
a
city
of
our
size
to
run
for
office,
which
should
not
be
what's
required
and
district
elections
will
change.
That
I.
I
Think
the
other
thing
is:
if
you
look
at
Cathedral,
City
and
India,
which
councilmember
Holston
mentioned
in
their
first
movement,
two
districts,
both
cities
have
a
more
racially
diverse
council
than
they
had
before
the
election
I
mean
because
we've
heard
in
some
cities
it
doesn't
happen
very
fast,
but
it
happened
very
fast
in
those
cities
and
given
three
of
us
and
live
in
one
district.
It
could
happen
very
fast
in
our
city
as
well
and
that's
the
other
point.
The
reality
is,
we
probably
have
one
of
the
most
geographically
diverse
councils.
I
I
You
know
we
haven't
had
that
diversity
and,
while
I
appreciate
your
comments
about
the
concerns,
because
they're
always
pros
and
cons
and
they're
definitely
pros
and
cons
here
but
I
see
in
the
city
like
San,
Francisco
or
Los
Angeles,
we
are
fighting
to
get
the
school
or
the
hospital
in
your
district
because
we're
geographically
small
there's
not
a
lot
that
we're
doing
to
put
money
into
one
area
of
the
city,
and
it's
gonna
be
really
important.
You
work
together,
I
mean
every
other
government
and
government
entity
was
I.
I
Think
the
exception
is
the
water
board
elects
by
districts
right.
The
school
district
I
mean
they're
in
five
different
cities,
yet
they
all
work
together
for
the
best
of
the
whole
right.
We
see
it.
I
mean
the
assembly,
the
California
Senate
Congress.
It's
all!
That's
a
representative
democracy.
When
you
look
your
whole
government,
that's
more
of
a
parliamentary
system
and
it's
not
the
one
we
typically
use
so
we're
a
bit
of
anomaly
at
the
city
level
in
some
places
and
two
more
things.
One
to
your
other
question,
I
mean
this
law.
I
The
other
way,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
plus
I
appreciate
you
don't
and
that's
fine,
that's
what
we
do
up
here,
but
the
reality
is.
We
also
don't
have
a
choice
right.
Any
choice
we
take
that
doesn't
do
this
will
result
in
litigation
that
will
almost
certainly
lose
and
will
certainly
cost
the
city,
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
that
could
be
spent
on
other
things.
We
all
care
and
our
residents
care
more
about.
So
ultimately,
I
appreciate
you
prefer.
I
E
You
know
I,
we
agree
with
my
colleagues
and
so
much
of
this,
but
the
most
important
thing
I
don't
agree
with
I've.
Never
yet
in
this
entire
process
been
convinced,
the
districts
will
make
us
more
inclusive.
What
made
us
more
inclusive?
Why
are
why
we
are
hearing
from
different
ethnic
groups
and
engaging
them
is
simply
because
we
engaged
them,
and
what
I
learned
in
that
process
was
something
probably
more
valuable
about
that
issue
than
ever
before
we
reached
out
specifically
to
other
ethnic
groups
and
whether
we're
districts
or
not.
E
E
Even
the
study
that
we
handed
out
tonight
the
complete
study
that
the
community
will
finally
get
to
take
a
look
at
says
in
it
that
they're
not
even
thoroughly
convinced
that
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
had
racially
polarized
voting.
There's
a
question
back
and
forth
on
that
in
certain
areas,
I
think
we
thought
we
were
on
the
line
or
less
but
again
I'm.
This
is
about
getting
forced
to
do
it,
so
I
will
be
voting
against
it.
E
For
that
reason,
because
in
my
heart
I
don't
believe
it
makes
us
a
better
City,
but
boy
I
missed
an
important
point.
Last
time
and
I'm
going
to
get
there
now
about
a
separately
elected
mayor
pump,
Springs
at
one
time
in
our
past
did
rotate
mayor.
This
is
not
a
new
concept
to
us
and
I.
Don't
know
the
number
I'm
hoping
somebody
from
our
staff
could,
and
it's
and
I
feel
bad.
E
That
I
didn't
ask
them
earlier,
but
my
understanding
is
that
most
California
cities
rotate
their
mayors,
they're,
not
separately
elected,
and
that's
been
like
that
for
many
many
years.
We
are
more
following
following
a
pattern
now
that
the
rest
of
the
state
has
followed
for
many
many
years,
and
why
do
we
do
that?
We
do
that
because
serving
as
mayor
for
your
city,
it's
really
serving
as
the
speaker
and
it
gives
each
councilmember
the
opportunity
to
do
something
different.
E
We
sit
up
here
for
four
years
doing
the
same
job
every
day
and
it's
actually
really
interesting
and
I
think
we
grow
as
people
getting
to
serve
as
the
speaker
for
the
council
and
I've
served.
It
I've
been
mayor
and
again,
I
learned
a
lot
from
it.
It
didn't
make
me
feel
any
more
powerful
because
it
isn't
any
more
powerful,
but
I
learned
a
lot
and
I
learned
a
lot
more
from
my
colleagues
in
that
position
because
of
the
expectations
they
add
for
me
to
represent
them.
E
So,
although
I
will
vote
against
district
voting
tonight,
I
completely
support
a
rotating
mayor,
because
that
is
the
Democratic
way
to
serve
on
a
City.
Council
is
to
let
each
member
of
that
council
serve
in
every
possible
position
that
that
council
can
serve
in
while
we're
here
and
that's
fair
and
that's
good,
and
we
should
do
that
and
I
hope.
Every
California
City
goes
to
that.
E
E
K
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
I
just
wanted
to
comment
briefly
because
this
hasn't
been
said
at
this
meeting
about
the
at-large
I
completely
agree
with
you
about
rotating
mayor.
That's
how
most
legislative
bodies
choose
their
speaker
like
the
speaker
of
the
house
or
the
speaker
of
a
body
right,
it's
not
separately
elected.
The
reason
that
that's
important
under
the
California
Voting
Rights
Act,
is
that
if
it's
at-large
there's
a
risk
that
minority
voters
will
not
be
able
to
choose
their
candidates
of
preference
into
the
mayor
position.
K
So
that's
why
it's
also
really
important
I
agree
with
you
about
the
council.
I
agree
that
it's
the
fair
thing
to
do.
I
agree
that
it's
the
most
democratic
thing
to
do.
It's
the
thing
that
most
legislative
bodies
do
about
picking
their
speaker,
but
it
is
really
important
and
the
reason
supporting
this
is
is
important.
K
Having
five
districts
and
having
a
district
admirer
is
to
allow
minority
candidates,
underrepresented
candidates,
more
marginalized,
two
candidates
to
be
elected
mayor
to
become
mayor
of
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
right,
we've
had
a
white
man
as
our
mayor
for
the
last
80
years.
For
a
very
very
long
time
for
majority-
that's
that's
fine,
that's
great,
but
that
isn't
the
only
voice,
the
only
speaker
for
the
city
of
Palm
Springs,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone
has
an
opportunity
to
be
mayor
and
to
run
and
I.
K
Think
that
that's
the
point
of
the
California
California
Voting
Rights
Act.
That's
when
I
say
that
having
five
districts
is
most
consistent
because
it
doesn't
protect
one,
arguably,
the
most
important
and
powerful
position
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
and
not
allow
minority
voters
minority
candidates
to
become
that
position.
That's
why
it's
so
important.
So
I
just
wanted
to
echo
that
thank
you.
Okay,.