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From YouTube: City Council | March 9 2023
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Regular Meeting of the Palm Springs City Council, held Thursday, March 9th, 2023.
This broadcast will also include a report on the City Council Closed Session of March 9th, 2023
A
Foreign
good
evening,
I
hereby
call
the
Palm
Springs
regular
city
council
meeting
of
March
9
2023
to
order
at
this
time
I
want
to
introduce
our
students,
who
will
be
into
doing
our
pledge.
Her
name
is
Nila
fornas
she's,
a
fifth
grader
at
Catherine
finchy.
She
loves
animals
and
wants
to
be
a
vet
and
Last
Summer
She
made
jewelry
and
to
sell
and
donated
almost
900
to
our
animal
shelter.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much
foreign.
So
before
we
begin
our
meeting
officially
I
want
to
recognize
Scarlett
Fuerte
who
works
at
one
plant,
cannabis,
dispensary,
she's,
a
security
guard
there,
and
yesterday
she
went
to
work
like
any
other
day,
except
very
quickly
into
her
time.
There,
an
armed
robber
came
into
the
dispensary
and
Scarlett
acted
very
quickly,
and
despite
this
robber
firing,
a
warning
shot,
Scarlett
managed
to
wrestle
the
gun
from
her
hand,
and
then
the
the
robber
did
flea.
So
I
was
just
so
impressed
and
I
was
thinking.
A
Yesterday
was
International
women's
day,
and
here
is
this
female
security
guard
who
made
sure
that
she
and
her
the
other,
the
customer
and
the
other
employee
that
were
at
the
cannabis
dispensary
was
safe
and
I
know
that
myself
and
all
of
the
rest
of
the
council
were
just
so
impressed
with
your
with
your
bravery.
So
we
want
to
give
you
this
certificate
of
recognition.
If
you
want
to
come
up.
A
D
D
Yes,
thank
you
mayor
members
of
council.
This
is
a
very
exciting
day
for
me
and
my
family
I
do
want
to
introduce
right.
In
the
beginning,
my
wife
Kelly
is
sitting
right
there
in
the
front
row,
along
with
my
daughter,
Nora
who's
17
years
old.
We
have
an
older
daughter
who
is
a
freshman
at
Chapman
University,
and
she
is
in
class
this
evening,
which
is
where
she
should,
where
she's
supposed
to
be
so
we're
we're
happy
that
that
took
president
presidents
over
this
I
do
want
to.
D
You
know
where
my
whole
family
is
very
energized
and
excited
to
be
to
be
here.
We've
only
done
a
move
like
this.
This
is
only
the
second
time.
We've
done
something
like
this
and
I
can
tell
you
from
prior
experience.
It's
it's,
never
an
easy
transition
to,
especially
to
do
it
alone.
So
if
you
have
somebody
to
help
with
all
the
logistics,
it
makes
all
the
difference
in
the
world.
So
great
thanks
to
my
family,
to
be
part
of
this
in
helping
through
this
transition,
which
is
which
is
really
important.
D
I
do
want
to
greatly
thank
the
mayor
and
all
the
members
of
the
city
council
for
this
appointment.
I'm
really
humbled
and
honored
that
you've
entrusted
me
with
this
responsibility.
It's
it
is
a
great
responsibility
and
countless
challenges,
but
it's
endlessly
rewarding
when
you
can
make
a
difference
in
your
community
and
for
that.
I
am
very,
very
grateful
to
all
of
you
for
for
your
trust
in
me.
So
thank
you
very
much.
D
D
A
And
welcome
to
Kelly
and
Nora
and
Nora.
It's
a
big
deal
to
come
here
for
your
senior
year,
so
we
thank
you
for
being
on
board
as
well.
Our
next
item
is
acceptance
of
the
agenda.
The
city
council
will
discuss
the
order
of
the
agenda.
May
amend
the
order
at
urgency,
items,
note,
abstentions
or
no
votes
on
consent,
calendar
items,
a
request,
consent,
calendar
items
be
removed
for
separate
discussion.
A
E
A
Thank
you.
The
next
item
is
public
testimony.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
city
council
on
non-public
hearing
agenda
items.
Only
two
minutes
will
be
provided
to
each
speaker.
You're
asked
to
please
begin
your
time
by
telling
us
what
agenda
item
or
items
you're
speaking
about,
and
please
note
that
testimony
for
public
hearings
will
be
taken
at
the
time
of
the
public
hearing
and
any
general
public
comment
will
occur
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
the
first
and
I'm
going
to
read
a
couple
of
names.
A
G
Hello,
everyone,
I'm
Alejandro,
Mesa,
Aguilar
I,
am
the
Coachella
organizer
for
the
Inland
Coalition
for
immigrant
Justice
and
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
issue
of
Street
bending
because
it's
important
to
our
communities.
I
have
some
talking
points
here
and
I
wanted
to
mention
that
sideblock
vendors
provide
food
for
the
working
class.
The
people
who
sustain
your
local
economy
in
the
hotel,
casino,
housekeeping,
Airbnb
and
Construction
Industries
Street
vendors,
also
feed
at
any
income
level
and
bridge
the
gap
in
classes.
G
G
H
H
I'd
like
to
speak
to
you
today
on
the
sidewalk
vendor
ordinance
that
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
is
currently
debating
in
2018,
SB
946
was
signed
into
law
as
the
safe
sidewalk
vending
act,
and
today,
five
years
later,
many
municipalities
have
not
yet
adopted
ordinances
to
address
Street
vending
or
at
times
have
even
actively
penalized
Street
vendors.
Since
the
enacting
of
SB
946
when
Palm
Springs
City
Council
first
introduced
this
ordinance,
we
had
many
concerns
as
an
organization
that
is
dedicated
to
advocating
for
the
fair
treatment
of
Street
vendors.
H
One
of
the
concerns
that
we
have
heard
is
that
the
is
that
the
tents
and
signage
that
can
be
seen
as
rather
complex
are
indicative
of
some
larger,
organized
or
exploitative
operation,
rather
than
independent,
enterprising
individuals
as
an
organizer.
That
is
a
part
of
an
ice
of
the
Inland
coalition
that
has
worked
extensively
with
Street
vendors.
We
have
rarely
if
ever
encountered
such
an
operation
before.
H
I
Good
evening
again,
my
name
is
Lisette
Mendoza
and
I'm.
The
with
the
Inland
Coalition
for
immigrant
Justice
I
have
organized
in
the
last
10
years
and
I
have
actually
I
was
actually
assigned
to
work
in
the
Coachella
Valley
to
support
the
DACA
program
for
undocumented
youth
when
I
first
started,
and
so
I
know
a
little
bit
about
implementing
policies
and
and
programs
directly
with
the
community
that
it
most
impacts.
I
First
right
and
so
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
continue
to
work
with
the
sidewalk
vending
Community
here,
also
known
as
Street
vendors
in
the
last
five
years.
As
mentioned
before,
we
this
this
policy
has
been
implemented,
Statewide
in
one
way
or
another,
but
we
continue
to
see
that,
instead
of
respecting
the
spirit
of
the
of
the
safe
sidewalk
vending
act,
more
people
find
ways
to
discriminate
past
discriminatory
practices
that
drive
out
some
of
these
small
businesses.
I
A
J
I
do
know
you
have
reserved
jurisdiction
to
amend
the
ordinance
as
necessary
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
although
in
my
reading
of
the
ordinance
it
doesn't
require
that
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
a
way
to
Comm
commemorate
the
fact
that
commercial,
wind
energy
was
pioneered
here
and
made
to
work
in
Palm
Springs.
This
is
the
birthplace
of
an
industry
that
went
around
the
world.
J
J
We
are
going
to
use
windmill
blades
to
outline
the
path
of
the
Parthenon
Stonehenge,
the
Indian
meeting
circles
and
the
Carter
windmill.
All
in
a
an
attempt
to
show
the
historical
Trends
from
Greek
to
northern
Europe
to
Native
Americans
and
the
windmill
is
the
mark
of
the
transition
to
the
new
world
of
sustainable
economy
and
sustainable
energy.
J
K
Good
evening
I'm
Steve
Wilcox
from
I'm
South,
Palm
Springs
Community
to
to
heretofore
no
one
has
mentioned
with
regard
to
item
3C
concerns
about
pedestrian
safety.
In
the
past
two
weeks,
I've
contacted
council
member
Middleton
and
Code
Compliance
supervisor
riccio
about
food
vending
station
occupying
the
sidewalk
adjacent
to
Walgreens,
at
the
intersection
of
East,
Palm,
Canyon
and
feral
Smoke
Tree,
and
thus
compromise
and
pedestrian
and
vehicular
traffic
I.
K
Would
invite
council
members
to
visit
this
vending
site
to
see
how
the
following
adequacies
of
the
proposed
ordinance
of
revisions,
specifically
on
sidewalk
clearance
and
location,
I
shared
with
council
member
and
compliance
supervisor,
a
photo
taken
of
a
disabled
individual
in
a
motorized
vehicle
via
motorized
wheelchair
having
to
navigate
the
sidewalk
area?
Regarding
this
sidewalk
facility,
a
standard
ADI
compliant
motorized,
wheelchair
or
Mobility
Scooter
is
27
inches
in
width.
The
ordinances
proposed
would
then
allow
for
a
total
of
a
margin
of
21
inches
less
than
one
foot
per
side
of
clearance.
K
L
Welcome
Mr
Stiles
I
am
very
excited
to
be
assisting
Mr
Noble
with
this
project.
He
helps
rescue
the
air
museum
many
years
ago
and,
as
we
all
know,
it
is
a
very
successful
tourist
attraction
and
learning
experience
for
for
children
and
adults.
The
new
project
proposed
by
wintech
and
Desert
Peak
energy
will
be
as
important
as
that
for
a
learning
experience.
It
will
teach
and
Trace
art
and
culture
and
the
history
and
future
of
renewable
energy
in
the
Coachella
Valley
there's
been
a
suggestion
that
the
project
doesn't
belong
before
the
Arts
commission.
L
Excuse
me
that
it
doesn't
fit.
The
ordinance
of
the
Arts
commission
and
staff
report
clearly
outlines
that
it
does.
We
did
appear
before
the
Arts
commission,
but
what
they
suggested
was
impossible
for
us
to
do.
They
suggested
they
wanted.
The
project
move
moved
into
the
inner
city,
which,
on
its
face,
would
be
an
impossibility,
as
you
can
see,
from
The
Proposal,
the
blades
weigh
an
enormous
amount
of
money
amount
of
weight
and
it
would
take
cranes
to
bring
them
in
and
there's
very
many
of
them.
We
also
have
ordinances
against
having
windmills
within
you
know.
L
Next
to
the
the
Hyatt
I,
don't
think
that
would
be
appropriate
and
it
could
not
be
erected
in
the
city.
This
windmill
is
that
we're
putting
up
is
is
an
artifact.
It
is
was
the
first
of
the
windmills
in
the
Coachella
Valley,
and
it
is
the
last
existing
artifact
from
that
from
that
era.
So
I'm
very
excited
about
the
project.
I
think
that
it's
going
to
be
a
learning
experience
for
everyone
and
that
it
will
eventually
will
house
a
museum
tracing
all
of
the
renewable
energy.
L
A
M
Hello,
my
name
is
Kathy
wormick,
mayor
Gardner,
mayor
Pro,
tem
Bernstein
and
honorable
member
Council
I'm
here
on
items.
3B
I
want
to
support
the
public
art
proposal
by
wincheck
energy
in
the
northern
portion
of
the
city.
The
site
is
really
an
appropriate
site
for
public
art.
The
windmill
tours
are
popular
I've
taken
them.
I've
sent
my
family
and
people
who've
come
to
visit,
and
everyone
has
loved
them.
They're,
also
a
tourist
spot
for
children
in
the
valley
who
come
for
a
learning
experience.
M
M
It
should
be
spread
out
all
over
Palm,
Springs
and
I
I'm,
testifying
today,
because
I
had
an
experience
with
a
Cena
where
our
public
and
we
have
beautiful
public
art
there,
but
our
developer
was
never
reimbursed
for
it
and
finally
gave
up,
and
it
doesn't
seem
fair
to
me
that
if
we
have
that
ordinance
on
the
books
that
we
should,
we
should
reimburse
developers
who
are
who've
requested
public
art
on
on
or
close
to
their
site,
so
I'm
very
much
in
favor
of
this
project.
Thank
you.
N
Okay,
I
am
unmuted
good
evening.
My
name
is
Joy
Brown,
Meredith
and
I
did
want
to
address
you
this
evening
in
regards
to
3C
the
vendor.
Ordinance
I
was
very
surprised
to
see
that
this
has
gotten
to
this
point
without
having
what
we
would
normally
have,
and
that
was
would
be
some
stakeholder
meetings.
It's
a
little
hard
to
get
all
your
thoughts
into
a
two-minute
public
comment.
N
One
of
the
things
that
I
did
want
to
point
out,
just
very
briefly
as
I
know
that
there
will
be
others
making
comment
that
have
sent.
Letters
is
just
that
I
wanted
to
point
out
that
I
I
hear
that
that
they
don't
require
some
of
the
things
that
that
we
as
brick
and
mortars
need.
Just
one
thing
I
in
particular,
is
I'm
required
to
have
a
city
engineer
come
out
at
a
cost
of
over
five
hundred
dollars.
N
A
You
I
think
we're
still
missing
a
couple
of
people
who
had
wanted
to
make
public
comment
who
were
stuck
in
traffic,
but
at
this
time
we
actually
have
to
call
the
Palm
Springs
Housing
Authority
special
meeting
to
order
as
well.
So
we
will
go
ahead
and
do
that
and
it's
my
understanding,
city
clerk.
You
need
to
do
another
roll
call
right.
C
A
I
do
want
to
just
say
at
the
top
of
this
I
know
that
we
had
some
folks
coming
from
quite
a
distance
to
speak.
The
two
who
are
not
here
yet
and
I
am
going
to
go
ahead
and
give
them
an
opportunity
to
speak
once
they
once
they
do
arrive.
Just
as
a
courtesy.
We
don't
always
do
that,
but
I
do
know
they
were
traveling
far
and
it's
only
two
we'll
move
to
the
next
item.
In
the
meantime,
the
next
oh
I'm.
Sorry.
The
next
item
is
the
consent.
A
A
O
O
A
new
regulatory
agreement
will
be
recorded
on
the
property
to
maintain
affordability
at
the
project
for
55
years
until
2078
the
property
actual
position
costs
will
be
approximately
11.4
million.
The
rehabilitation
work
will
be
approximately
3.9
million
and
the
balance
of
funds.
4.7
million
will
be
used
for
architect,
engineering,
legal
tax,
credit
fees,
Bond
fees
and
other
contingencies.
O
Council
members,
it
is
recommended
that
the
council
adopt
a
resolution
approving
the
issuance
of
bonds
by
the
CMFA
for
the
benefit
of
the
borrower.
Such
adoption
is
solely
for
the
purpose
of
satisfying
the
requirements
of
tephra
at
California
code,
section,
6500
and
staff
is
available
to
answer
questions
you
may
have,
and
we
also
have
the
financing
team
available
on
Zoom
for
any
questions
you
may
have.
O
P
O
O
Yes,
mere
Pro
Tim
residents
will
have
to
be
out
of
their
units
from
eight
o'clock
AM
to
5
p.m,
for
the
work
in
their
units
to
be
done,
but
during
that
time
they
will
have
access
to
their
amenities
in
in
their
units.
They
they
will
still
be
able
to
come
back
and
use
their
faucet
showers
and
appliances,
and
the
units
will
be
sanitized
before
the
residents
do
come
back
into
their
units,
which
is
to
say
Let
me.
Let
me
back
up
the
residents.
O
While
the
work
is
being
done,
the
residents
will
have
to
be
outside
of
the
unit
but
will
have
a
access
to
a
Hospitality
area
in
the
community
building
of
the
of
the
property,
and
we
will
also
have
food
there.
Now,
when
the
residents
have
access
to
all
the
amenities
in
their
unit
is
when
they
return,
they
will
be
functioning
and
if
there
are
problems
the
developer,
the
buyer
has
a
a
contact
person
for
them
to
talk
to
to
address
any
issues
if
their
units
are
not
sanitized
properly
and.
O
Q
You
thank
you.
Thank
you,
Jay.
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
We
received
public
comment
on
this
item.
So
specific
requests
from
residents
or
neighbors
jfu
have
that
public
comment,
but
it
asks
about
additional
on-site
resident
and
visitor
parking
and
the
need
for
that
and
the
difficulty
parking
on
site
and
many
other
residents
parking
nearby
and
dealing
with
vehicle
thefts
or
catalytic
converter
thefts
things
like
that.
They
ask
for
turf
removal
to
remove
all
the
lawns
in
the
turf.
Q
They
say
that
there's
a
lot
of
major
waterways
happening
on
the
site,
water,
running
down
the
street,
etc,
etc.
They
ask
about
the
sunny
view:
villas's
smoke-free
housing
because
of
Hud
or
the
housing
authority,
and
so
asking
if
that
can
be
remained,
can
remain,
excuse
me
and
then
exterior
Aesthetics
and
how
that'll
interact
with
the
AAC
or
architectural
advisory
committee.
So
I
just
wanted
to
flag
those
for
you.
It's
not
typical
that
we
get
public
comments
on
items
like
this
and
so
I
think
it's
important
to
respond
to
them.
Q
A
A
R
Yes,
good
evening,
hi
everyone,
members
of
the
council,
my
name
is
Belinda
Lee
I'm,
a
development
director
with
Community
preservation,
Partners
the
developer
for
Sunnyview
Villa,
and
to
address
some
of
these
comments.
As
far
as
the
first
thing,
I
believe,
I
heard
was
regarding
the
parking
and
additional
parking.
Unfortunately,
due
to
current
constraints
and
code
requirements,
we
are
constrained
in
our
ability
to
add
additional
parking
as
it
pertains
to
smoke-free
housing.
R
We
will
be
continuing
that
in
any
other
sort
of
Hud
regulations
and
guidelines
that
we
are
required
to
follow,
so
that
will
not
change
as
far
as
visibility
and
any
sort
of
safety
as
it
pertains
to
theft.
We
will
be
adding
a
camera
system
to
the
site
to
ensure
that
any
areas
on
site
and
even
Street
facing
we
will
have
a
system
that
will
monitor
any
activity
on
site
and
I
did
also
hear.
R
There
was
a
concern
regarding
the
exteriors
and
the
architecture,
and
we
do
take
into
consideration
certainly
the
necessity
for
the
building
to
fit
into
the
fabric
of
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
So
any
sort
of
paint
upgrades
or
exterior
upgrades.
We
will
ensure
that
it
does
fit
into
the
surrounding
community
and
I
believe
the
water
efficiency
was
addressed,
so
we
are
looking
to
have
low
flow,
toilets
and
faucets
and
showers
and
as
far
as
the
exteriors,
we
are
looking
to
install
low
flow
and
drip
irrigation
as
well.
R
R
S
So
the
comment
that
was
sent
in
says
that
there's
currently
plenty
of
prop
the
property
currently
has
a
lot
of
unnecessary
land
and
turf
plenty
of
room
for
additional
on-site
parking
and
about
50
percent
of
the
Sunnyvale
residents,
have
no
choice
to
but
to
park
off
Street.
So
there's
a
contradictory
feeling
here.
R
Q
A
question
just
a
flag
for
the
applicant
or
the
developer
that
the
city
and
Desert
Water
Agency
do
have
a
turf
removal
rebate
program
if
it's
still
open
and
the
city
was
also
considering
adding
additional
funding.
So
there
might
be
other
funding
that
you
might
pursue
to
pursue
the
turf
removal
if
you
do
find
areas
where
there's
significant
Water
waste
and
the
turf
isn't
needed
for
residents.
Thank
you.
Madame
mayor.
A
Q
Hostage.
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
I.
Just
have
a
follow-up.
You
said
that
you're
primarily
doing
interior
upgrades
and
those
are
listed
here,
but
you
stated
that
you
might
paint
the
exterior
or
do
architectural
improvements
for
the
exterior.
Do
you
have
any
of
that
planned
or
do
you
contemplate
contemplate
that
in
this
project.
R
R
R
S
P
T
T
The
subject
site
is
2.4
acres
in
size
and
is
currently
vacant.
It
is
located
north
of
downtown
Bound
by
North
Palm
Canyon
to
the
east
west
Chino
drive
to
the
South
and
belardo
road
to
the
West.
A
30-foot
utility
and
drainage
easement
owned
by
Riverside
County
is
located
just
to
the
north
of
the
property
which
you
can
see
there
just
outside
the
boundary.
T
The
site
is
currently
designated
in
the
general
plan
as
Central
business
district,
which
allows
a
mix
of
commercial
and
residential
uses
such
as
those
proposed.
The
Zoning
for
the
site,
as
I
mentioned,
is
currently
split
between
two
different
designations
being
R2
on
the
western
portion
of
the
site
and
CBD
on
the
Eastern
portion
of
the
site
to
the
east.
Our
single-family
low
density
homes
in
the
Las
Palmas
Community
to
the
South
largely
focused
south
of
Alejo.
We
have
a
mix
of
residential
and
Commercial
uses
consistent
for
our
downtown
area
and
to
the
north
and
east.
T
We
largely
see
a
mix
of
smaller
scale
commercial
uses
within
the
Midtown
area.
As
part
of
this
proposal,
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
construct
a
mixed-use
project
that
consists
of
24
residential
condominium
units.
5400
square
feet
of
commercial
use
largely
are
fronting
on
Palm
Canyon,
as
well
as
a
small
courtyard
space
adjacent
to
the
commercial
uses
and
Associated
common
and
private
commercial,
sorry,
Open,
Spaces
associated
with
the
residential
uses.
So
this
includes
a
pool,
a
spa.
T
There
will
also
be
internal
pedestrian
path,
Pathways
to
provide
access
to
the
common
spaces
which
are
located
sort
of
in
the
bottom
half
of
the
plan,
as
well
as
to
an
access
gate.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
point
which
will
be
provided
here
through
that
interior
commercial
Courtyard,
that
I
mentioned,
which
will
provide
access
to
Palm
Canyon,
as
well
as
to
those
commercial
spaces.
T
I
also
wanted
to
note
that
the
applicant
has
included
a
residential
gate
to
control
access
to
the
interior
of
the
site,
which
is
set
back
over
85
feet
from
belardo,
so
the
gate
itself
is
actually
located
here
past
that
sort
of
arrival
court
and
some
other
parking.
That's
that
will
be
located
on
the
other
side
of
the
gate.
T
T
I
also
want
to
note
that
the
CBD
designation
within
the
general
plan,
which
is
not
being
changed,
generally
requires
a
minimum
of
21
units
per
acre
for
residential
uses
and
a
maximum
of
30
units
per
acre.
However,
a
general
plan
amendment
was
approved
by
the
city
council
last
fall,
which
lowered
that
minimum
level
to
10
units
per
acre
for
mixed-use
developments,
where
75
percent
of
the
frontage
on
a
major
thoroughfare
is
providing
publicly
accessible
commercial
uses.
T
The
change
of
Zone
application
that
is
before
you
today
is
not
seeking
to
amend
or
modify
that
that
density
that
is
permitted
by
the
general
plan
today.
I
wanted
to
show
you
some
renderings
of
the
project.
So
this
is
the
view
to
the
north
and
west
taken
from
Palm
Canyon.
So
you
can
sort
of
see
the
residential
uses
in
behind,
as
well
as
the
commercial
experience
along
Palm
Canyon.
T
They
have
designed
the
buildings
so
that
there
is
a
bit
of
an
overhang
on
Palm
Canyon
to
provide
some
shading
and
some
relief
from
the
Sun
and
they
are
maintaining
the
palm
trees
along
Palm
Canyon
again
to
help
provide
shading.
There
will
be
a
sidewalk
constructed
along
West
Chino,
where
there
is.
There
is
not
one
today
to
provide
access
both
to
those
units
along
there,
as
well
as
for
the
general
public
who
will
be
traveling.
T
I
also
wanted
to
provide
here
some
additional
renderings
of
the
site.
So
on
the
top
left,
you
can
see
again
that
view
from
the
south
looking
up
Palm
Canyon
and
you
have
that
sort
of
commercial
space
flanking.
That
corner,
which
is
proposed
to
be
two
stories
in
height
within
the
commercial
use,
is
continuing
up
on
the
bottom
left.
You
can
see
sort
of
the
opposite
view,
looking
South
along
Palm
Canyon.
T
So
again
you
have
a
two-story
commercial
use
that
the
top
and
bottom
of
the
site-
and
then
you
have
commercial
spaces
in
between
that
are
proposed
to
be
one
story
with
an
apartment
unit.
Above
on
the
top
right,
you
get
the
view
of
the
gate
and
the
access
from
belardo
so
again,
looking
at
how
that
gate
is
set
back,
85
feet
from
belardo
and
is
screened
with
other
Design
Elements
to
sort
of
minimize
the
view
of
that
gate
from
belardo
and
then
on
the
bottom
right.
T
So,
in
order
to
proceed,
the
applicant
is
seeking
the
change
of
Zone.
That
I
mentioned
that
will
take
the
current
split,
R2
and
CBD
zoning
and
and
are
proposing
to
make
it
a
single
C1
Zone
having
a
single
zoning
designation
will
allow
the
site
to
develop
under
one
set
of
development
standards,
facilitating
better
overall
design
of
the
project.
The
C1
Zone
was
selected
to
reflect
the
surrounding
zoning
that
extends
northward
along
this
portion
of
Palm
Canyon
into
Midtown
and
I.
T
In
terms
of
the
process
to
date,
the
Planning
Commission
did
hold
several
meetings
related
to
the
project.
Since
it
was
filed
in
2010,
they
first
held
a
study
session
in
January
of
2021.
They
then
held
a
series
of
subcommittee
meetings
earlier
this
year,
as
well
as
two
public
hearings,
the
first
in
December
and
the
last
in
February
of
2023,
where
they
did
recommend
approval
of
the
project.
T
They
are
recommending
that
the
city
council
approved
the
zone
change
and
there
are
three
other
Associated
applications.
There
is
a
major
development
permit
tentative
track
map
and
variance
application,
which
were
all
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission
on
February,
8th
contingent
on
approval
by
city
council
tonight.
I
do
also
want
to
note
that
that
major
development
permit
will
go
to
the
Architectural
Review
Committee.
Should
you
vote
to
advance
the
zone
change
where
they
will
review
the
architectural
and
landscape
design?
T
T
Being
residential
and
Commercial
the
third
that
the
change
of
Zone
application
approval
will
allow
the
seamless
and
consistent
development
throughout
the
site
under
one
set
of
development
standards,
rather
than
the
sort
of
two
different
sets
that
exist
under
split
zoning
today
and,
finally,
that
the
approval
of
the
application
will
allow
the
extension
of
the
C1
Zone
to
be
consistent
with
what
we're
seeing
along
this
portion
of
North
Palm
Canyon.
That
concludes
my
recommendation.
T
We
are
recommending
that
city
council
introduce
and
way
further
reading
of
the
ordinance
and
approve
the
change
of
Zone
application
subject
to
the
conditions
of
approval.
I
mentioned
that
this
will
go
to
Arc
following
your
decision,
and
the
applicants
are
also
present
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you.
A
S
T
T
T
A
Thank
you,
I'm,
going
to
jump
in
there
because
my
questions
along
the
same
lines
to
our
City
attorney
is
it
possible,
since
we
have
not
received
an
inclusionary
zoning
ordinance
in
front
of
us,
but
it
has
been
something
that
Council
has
discussed
in
the
past.
Is
it
possible,
with
this
Zone
Amendment
for
us
to
require,
say
10
of
the
units
to
be
for
moderate
income
families.
E
You
know
until
some
recent
amendments
at
the
state
level
dealing
with
State
housing
laws,
I
would
have
said.
Yes,
the
council
could
make
impose
those
requirements,
because
the
council
could
simply
deny
the
zone
change.
However,
the
housing
affordability
act
from
a
couple
of
years
ago
of
2019
imposed
some
limitations
on
City's
ability
to
deny
housing
projects
which
this
is
and
so
I,
don't
think
we
would
be
able
to
deny
it
or
therefore
condition
them
to
include
affordable
units.
E
Q
A
Q
Have
questions
about
density?
Thank
you
for
the
excellent
staff
report
really
appreciate
all
the
information,
especially
the
the
verbal
one
you
just
gave
right
now.
So
can
you
share
a
little
bit?
That
was
my
question
about
the
minimum
density
and
it's
a
lower
density
than
we're
used
to
seeing
and
so
I
understand,
and
that
was
change,
but
what.
B
Q
T
T
The
council
did
adopt
the
amendment
in
the
fall
to
the
general
plan
that
allows
for
a
lower
threshold
in
two
instances,
so
the
first
was
for
Second
Story
commercial
units,
typically
more
in
downtown,
where
we're
looking
to
convert
those
two
apartments
and
you're
running
into
limitations
with
your
density
level
levels,
so
that
is
now
permitted
with
no
sort
of
floor
on
the
density
level.
The
second
was
for
mixed-use
developments
that
were
providing
substantial,
publicly
accessible
commercial
uses
along
a
major
thoroughfare.
T
Q
Q
T
P
T
No,
it's
a
good
question.
I
think
the
Nuance
here
is
that
we
have
a
mixed
use.
Development
with
with
commercial
uses
and
I
think.
The
concern
that
was
expressed
by
the
applicant
was
was
less
about
sort
of
pedestrian
movement
through
the
site
and
more
about
vehicular
movement
through
the
site.
So
in
this
case
we
have
commercial
uses
that
will
be,
you
know,
having
commercial
visitors
as
well
as
loading
and
deliveries,
and
the
concern
was,
you
know,
path
of
least
resistance.
T
Those
Vehicles
may
choose
to
enter
the
residential
portion
of
the
site
park
at
the
back
end
of
the
commercial
spaces
and
access
them
that
way,
and
so
the
gate
is
really
to
prevent
those
com
that
commercial
traffic
from
flowing
through
the
residential
portion
of
the
site.
It's
a
little
bit
different
than
recent
examples
that
the
city
council
saw
and
is
aware
of
where
that
was
just
a
residential
site,
and
we
didn't
have
that
same
concern
about
the
mixing
of
uses,
the
finding
that
the
commission
needs
to
make
in
order
to
Grant.
T
The
gate
is
really
talking
about.
You
know
minimizing
conflicts
and
making
sure
that
there's
appropriate
circulation.
So
the
Planning
Commission
and
their
decision
found
that,
unlike
the
other
site
that
that
we
saw
recently,
there
is
a
legitimate
concern
here-
around
circulation
and
and
separating
uses
and
traffic
conflicts
on
this
site
that
they
didn't
see
on
the
other
one.
The
other
reason
that
they
gave
in
making
that
decision
was
and
I
can
go
back
to
the
drawing
that
we
have
I.
T
Think
it's
87
feet
that
the
gate
is
set
back
from
belardo,
as
opposed
to
other
developments
where
we
see
it
typically
right
at
the
frontage
and
again
because
of
some
of
the
other
uses
in
front
of
the
gate,
and
we
can
even
go
to
the
rendering
in
that
sort
of
top
left
picture
top
right
picture.
Sorry,
it's
screened
and
you're
not
really
getting
the
visual
appearance
of
the
gate
from
belardo
as
you're
walking
through.
T
T
P
Thank
you,
I'm
just
going
to
bring
this
up
again
later,
because
previous
Council
adopted
something
to
the
general
plan
to
promote
and
support
locally
owned
businesses
and
unique
retail.
So
that
is
something
I
would
like
to
see.
Also
in
terms
of
these,
these,
these
residential
units
can
they
be
used
as
short-term
vacation.
Rentals
do
you
know.
A
U
Foreign,
my
name
is
Peter
Mahler
and
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you.
Welcome
to
the
new
city
manager
great
to
have
you
here.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Cincinnati
has
a
great
ballpark
I've
lived
in
the
neighborhood
for
part
time
for
22
years
and
visited
La
Sierra
University
for
17
years
to
talk
to
them
about
the
site,
because
I
think
it
is
so
important.
U
I
want
to
speak
to
the
affordable
housing.
I
think
it's
very
important.
I
think
this
is
a
site
where
it
economically
doesn't
work.
We
are
looking
at
several
other
sites.
I
also
want
to
speak
to
your
question
about
local
retail.
We
own
El
Paseo
Plaza,
which
is
where
the
workshop
kitchen
bar
is
Candice,
held
Elizabeth
and
Prince
super
simple,
they're,
all
local
retailers,
and
we
have
worked
for
14
years
through
all
sorts
of
ups
and
downs
to
have
that
building
filled
with
local
retailers.
V
V
The
owners
never
came
to
us
and
said
we
want
a
place
that
serves
this
many
units
and
they
always
said.
Please
is
on
a
place
that
really
fits
here,
and
so
there
has
been
really
I'm
going
to
say,
excruciating
care
to
examine
the
scale
at
every
single
ledge
of
the
project
to
see
what
the
relationships
are
to
Palm
Canyon
to
Chino,
to
Old
Las
Palmas
behind
it,
and
so
the
project
has
been
really
fine-tuned
in
that
way.
If
this
were
a
denser
project,
we
would
have
probably
two-story
in
the
back
all
along
Chino.
V
We've
done
much
more
dense
housing
projects
in
our
office
and
typically
they're,
really
much
larger
double
loaded
quarter.
Buildings
they're
much
denser,
instead
of
being
a
sort
of
glass
or
open
facing
unit
through
sort
of
a
deep
facing
unit,
and
it
builds
a
really
different
kind
of
architecture
and
in
our
earlier
studies
we
looked
at
some
of
these
denture
things,
but
it
really
required
first
off
a
complete
Podium
for
the
site,
so
the
park
can
be
accomplished
by
that
Podium
and
then
very
dense
buildings.
V
W
Just
real
quick
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
council
for
the
consideration
of
this
project.
I
am
a
partner
and
developer
for
this
as
well,
and
it's
been
a
it's
been
a
long
process
working
with
staff
and
and
the
plan
commission
to
get
to
this
point
and
truly
appreciate
all
that
we
have
done
here
and
and
are
really
excited
about
this
project.
W
W
We
have
access
points
to
many
of
the
residences
along
several
of
the
roads
that
Circle
this
project.
So
there
are
private
residences
residents
that
can
come
right
off
of
the
right-of-way
into
those
residences.
So
we
really
did
want
to
bring
this
in
and
create
a
really
Community
feel
here
and
I.
Think
we
achieved
that
through
several
of
the
study
sessions
that
we
had
with
the
commission.
So
again,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
tonight.
X
A
F
Questions
for
the
applicant
if
you
could
come
forward.
Thank
you
and
first
just
a
comment.
This
is
a
beautiful
project
and
it
is
a
critically
important
corner
and
a
critically
important
part
of
our
community,
so
they
deserve
the
credit.
Thank
you.
Well.
I
was
very
very
impressed
with
what
I
saw,
but
we
also
have
a
history
of
some
beautiful
projects
coming
before
us
and
then
lying
fallow
for
years,
if
not
decades.
So,
what's
the
funding
that
you
need
to
make
this
project
work
and
do
you
have
it.
U
We
are
completely
funded.
That
is
not
a
concern
when
we
renovated
8
30
in
800
North
Palm
Canyon.
We
were
100
percent
under
construction
in
2008.,
there's
that
little
bump
in
September,
and
we
finished
100
of
our
Construction
with
private
funding
and
were
100
percent
leased.
Wonderful.
We
continue
follow
that
same
business
pattern.
F
W
Yeah
sure,
absolutely
you
know
we
are
through
the
design
and
development
stage
of
this
project,
as
you
can
see
we're
very
detailed
in
our
in
our
plans
at
this
point.
The
next
step
for
us
is
just
to
get
through
the
construction,
drawing
phase
and
then,
through
the
obviously
the
permitting
phase.
Now
you
know
tonight's,
not
the
last
approval
we
need.
W
You
know
we
still
have
to
go
through
all
of
our
building
approvals
as
well,
but
we
are
truly
Full
Speed
Ahead
on
this
project,
as
Peter
mentioned,
and
you
know
we
have
the
team
engaged
the
contractor
engaged
ready
to
complete
those
drawings
and
began
Our
Hope
would
be
by
the
end
of
this
year.
We
would
have
a
shovel
in
the
ground.
W
F
A
P
P
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
commitment
to
continuing
to
do
that,
and
it
is
very
reassuring
to
hear
that
this
is
24
months
and
not
years
and
years
and
years.
So
those
are
my
comments
and
and
I
do,
like
I
really
do
appreciate
how
how
much
design
effort
went
into
this.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
do
we
have
other
comments
or
questions.
I
go.
Go
ahead,
councilmember
hostage
go
first,
all
right!
This
project
does
look
beautiful
it'll,
be
nice
to
see
that
strip
of
Palm
Canyon
activated.
It
is
disappointing
to
know
that
we
don't
have
a
conclusionary
zoning
ordinance.
Yet
I
do
understand
that
that
is
coming
forward.
A
But,
as
we've
seen,
there
have
been
several
projects
since
the
council
first
discussed
this
and
we
we
don't
have
any
way
of
requiring
you
to
pay
in-lu
fees
or
to
actually
put
affordable
housing
on
your
site,
which
is
not
great
for
us,
since
we
need
that
so
much
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
clear
for
the
community
and
for
any
developers
that
are
going
to
be
coming
forward
to
Palm
Springs.
We
do
need
affordable
housing
at
all
income
levels.
So
we
do
hope
that
you'll
come
forward
with
those
projects
in
the
future.
Q
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
well
said
I
just
also
wanted
to
Echo
those
sentiments
and
also
just
say
it's
a
beautifully
designed
project
and
it's
so
I'm
so
glad
that
Mr
Rios
is
designing
all
this
housing
and
not
me
which
he
described.
The
density
I
was
looking
for.
It
was
more
of
a
comment
to
staff
because
I
see
you
know,
we
have
limited
open
land
available,
especially
in
our
downtown.
Q
It
really
is
more
common
about
our
zoning
update
and
looking
at
where
we
do
want
density
and
where
we
don't
I,
really
appreciate
you
designing
a
project
and
thinking
of
a
project
that
fits
the
neighborhoods,
because
that's
what
the
neighbors
really
want,
but
we
do
have
to
think
about
density
long
term,
as
we
have
some
limited
areas
in
downtown
where
dense
housing
can
go
so
just
I
love
these
I
love.
This
project
I
think
it's
beautiful.
I
can't
wait
for
it
to
be
preserved
in
30
years.
Q
S
Minor
comment
on
understanding
the
the
amount
of
bus
traffic
in
customers
that
are
using
the
bus
and
getting
on
and
off
the
bus
at
that
corner
and
I
I
didn't
see
it
until
earlier.
Today,
the
bus
stop
that's
designed
for
the
space
and
I
think
it's
beautiful,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
the
clear
understanding
with
staff
and
with
you
all
the
the
amount
of
traffic
that
comes
through
on
that
corner,
we
need
to
be
aware
of.
You
know:
how
does
that
bus?
S
How
do
those
buses
stopping
so
frequently
is
that
going
to
cause
Interruption
going
into
the
intersection
or
to
that
retail
store
right
behind
the
bus,
stop
itself,
but
I
think
other
than
that.
I
applaud
the
the
work
that
you
all
have
put
into
it,
and
it's
a
it's
a
great
addition
to
go
into
that
block
and
I
think
the
Planning
Commission
for
their
work
on
getting
it.
To
this
point,.
C
P
A
Y
I
think
it's
a
good
ordinance.
It
could
be
improved.
There
are
a
number
of
parts
to
the
ordinance
that
I
think
are
important
to
address
and
I
also
want
to
quickly
address.
The
economic
protection
is
ISM
and
the
question
of
competition
with
other
small
businesses
and
I.
Don't
think
that's
the
question.
That's
an
issue
here.
There's
a
misconception
that
there's
competition
and
in
reality
street
vendors
create
foot
traffic.
They
create
safety.
Y
They
Revitalize
areas
that
are
often
left
blighted,
and
so
all
of
the
research
actually
indicates
to
the
contrary
that
street
vendors
are
actually
promoting
business
and
creating
a
more
vital
economy
and
so
in
actuality,
most
of
their
money
and
the
cycle
of
money
that
goes
through.
Street
vendors
actually
stays
more
locally
in
the
local
economy.
Y
So
it's
a
very
smart
policy
for
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
and
it's
something
that
business
entities
and
business
interests
and
palm
screens
should
want
to
support
and
I
would
question
why
this
group
isn't
being
supported
and-
and
maybe
we
look
in
the
mirror
and
see
and
ask
those
questions
of
why
these
businesses
are
not
being
supported
versus
other
businesses
in
Palm
Springs.
But
I
would
also
want
to
address
the
issue
of
excluding
vendors
from
schools.
Y
There's
a
500
foot,
exclusion
Zone
and
in
the
previous
ordinance
there
was
language
of
them
being
dangerous
to
Children,
which
I
think
is
wrong
and
not
empirically
proven
and
discriminatory,
and
so
there's
a
number
of
Provisions
that
could
be
improved
and
I.
Having
grown
up
here
in
Palm
Springs
and
experienced
food
at
kawea
and
Raymond
Creek
in
Palm.
Y
A
C
A
You,
madam
Clerk,
we
are
skipping
item
3A
that
is
being
moved
to
our
next
Council
meetings.
We're
now
on
to
item
3B,
which
is
a
council
request
for
review
of
a
decision
by
the
public
Arts
commission
to
deny
an
application
by
Desert,
Peak
energy
and
wintech
energy
for
reimbursement
of
375
thousand
dollars
in
public
Arts
funds
for
a
public
art
project
to
be
located
at
62950,
20th
Avenue
and
a
request
for
waivers
of
the
art
placement
requirement.
Z
Staff
report
this
evening,
if
I,
could
request
that
our
TV
station
bring
up
the
PowerPoint
for
item
3B
and,
while
they're
doing
that,
thank
you.
What
this
is
is
you
have
a
request
to
review
the
decision
of
the
public
Arts
commission
relative
to
a
project
that
was
proposed
on
the
north
side
of
the
freeway.
By
way
of
background,
the
applicants
for
the
project
are
constructing
a
battery
storage
facility
on
two
large
Parcels
north
of
the
freeway.
Z
As
part
of
that
project
and
per
the
public
Arts
ordinance,
they
were
required
to
pay
375
thousand
dollars
in
fees
to
the
public
Arts
fund
per
the
public
Arts
ordinance.
There
are
two
ways
that
we
can
use.
Those
funds
number
one
is
that
the
applicant
can
provide
the
artwork.
The
artwork
must
be
reviewed
and
approved
by
the
public,
Arts
commission
and
then
upon
installation.
Those
funds
are
reimbursed
to
the
applicant.
The
second
thing
that
they
can
do
is
they
can
pay
the
money
directly
into
the
public
Arts
fund.
Z
The
public
Arts
commission
can
then
use
those
funds
for
public
Arts
projects
throughout
the
city.
In
this
particular
situation,
the
applicants
chose
to
provide
the
art
themselves
in
terms
of
the
project
the
applicant
submitted,
the
following
information
or
the
the
images
here
to
the
public
Arts
commission
for
consideration.
I've
also
included
on
this
slide
description
of
the
budget
for
the
project
itself.
Z
The
art
project
consists
of
windmill
blades
that
would
be
installed
both
vertically
and
horizontally
on
a
site.
That's
adjacent
to
where
the
windmill
tour
facility
is
right
now
and
then
also
as
part
of
that
project.
It
would
include
the
restoration
of
one
of
the
original
wind
turbines
that
were
installed
here,
as
the
applicant
has
testified
under
public
comment,
and
so
this
was
the
scope
of
the
project
that
was
proposed.
It
would
also
include
the
painting
or
installation
of
murals
on
the
blades
themselves.
Z
The
applicant
submitted
to
us
earlier,
and
we
sent
this
on
to
you-
is
some
additional
depictions
of
the
artwork
here.
It's
slightly
different
than
what
was
shown
to
the
public
Arts
commission
they've
identified
the
arrangement
of
blades
in
the
form
of
Stonehenge
and
then
also
one
showing
the
installation
of
blades
that
reflects
the
column
placement
of
the
Parthenon
in
Athens,
and
so
this
is
different
information
than
what
was
shown
to
the
Public's
Arts
commission,
but
does
show
The.
Z
Z
However,
this
facility
is
fenced
off,
and
so
it's
not
accessible
to
the
public,
typically
as
a
requirement
of
an
applicant
providing
art.
The
applicant
is
provided
on
the
property
where
the
development
is
occurring.
However,
in
this
situation,
because
those
properties
are
going
to
be
fenced
off,
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
locate
the
art
installation
closer
to
the
I-10
freeway
and
I'll.
Z
Talk
about
that
a
little
bit
later
on
in
the
presentation,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
it
clear
that
the
installation
is
not
on
the
property
that
is
being
developed
in
terms
of
the
public
Arts
commission
consideration
of
the
application.
They
ultimately
denied
the
request
because
they
could
not
make
the
following
findings:
relative
to
the
public
Arts
ordinance
number
one
was
relative
to
the
majority
of
the
funding
being
used
for
the
foundation
work
and
the
restoration
of
the
wind
turbine,
and
they
questioned
whether
this
was
an
allowed
or
appropriate
use
of
the
funding.
Z
Their
approach
to
this
was
that
only
twenty
thousand
dollars
was
being
allocated
to
the
installation
of
art
on
the
blades,
and
so
therefore
they
didn't
see
the
rest
of
the
funding
being
used
appropriately.
As
I
had
mentioned
again,
there
was
a
concern
about
the
percentage
of
the
budget
that
was
being
used
for
the
actual
artwork.
Z
Z
As
we
look
at
this
application
before
you,
you
may
be
asked
to
look
at
kind
of
a
broader
definition
of
what
is
art
and
here's.
The
difficult
thing
is
to
determine
what
is
art
in
this
situation.
I
can
see
in
terms
of
the
public,
Arts
commission
and
the
information
that
was
provided
to
them.
It
was
difficult
for
them
to
make
that
assessment.
Z
However,
if
you
do
look
at
what
the
applicant
has
provided
to
us
just
earlier
this
week,
you
can
see
that
the
arrangement
of
these
blades
is
not
the
standard
Arrangement
that
you
would
see
it's
a
very
thoughtful
and
intentional
arrangement
of
the
blades,
and
so
looking
at
that
as
a
sculptural
piece,
you
could
interpret
this
as
being
artwork
again.
The
public
Arts
commission
did
not
see
this
image,
nor
did
they
interpret
the
project.
That
way.
Z
Another
thing
to
take
into
consideration
is
that
this
is
a
very
unique
project
in
terms
of
the
development
that
was
required
to
pay
the
public
Arts
fee.
It's
a
battery
storage
facility,
it's
not
something
as
the
last
project
that
you
just
saw.
The
Rios
project,
which
is
a
mixed
use,
project
and
artwork,
is
very
easily
incorporated
as
part
of
that,
and
so
I
think
you
have
to
take
into
consideration
as
you
look
at
this
application
that
this
is
unique.
Z
What
the
applicant
is
proposing
is
thematically
consistent
with
not
only
the
project
but
the
area
and
the
history
of
development
in
that
area,
and
so
I
think
you
can
look
at
this
as
a
work
of
cultural
significance,
which
is
indicated
in
the
purpose
and
intent
of
the
public
Arts
ordinance
that
we
not
only
look
at
or
artwork
but
pieces
of
cultural
significance.
So
those
are
just
things
for
you
to
consider
in
addition
to
the
consideration
that
was
given
by
the
public
Arts
Commission,
the
applicant
has
requested
two
waivers.
Z
If
you
were
to
approve
this
application,
they
would
request
the
following
number.
One
is
to
allow
the
artwork
on
a
parcel
that
is
separate
from
the
development
parcel,
as
I
had
indicated
earlier,
because
the
development
side
is
fenced,
it's
not
accessible
to
the
public,
it
makes
sense
to
locate
the
artwork
off-site
and
then.
Secondly,
the
applicant
is
requesting
reimbursement
of
the
375
thousand
dollars
that
was
paid
up
front
prior
to
the
installation
of
the
work.
Z
Here's
one
of
the
conundrums
of
our
public
Arts
ordinance
is:
we
require
the
applicants
to
pay
the
fee
in
order
to
receive
their
building
permits.
We
then
require
them
if
they're
going
to
provide
the
artwork
to
then
pay
for
and
install
the
artwork
and
then
later
get
the
reimbursement,
and
so
it's
a
little
bit
problematic
as
you
look
at
that
they're,
basically
paying
twice
for
the
installation
of
the
artwork
and
then
getting
eating
half
of
that
back,
and
so
that's
something
to
consider
in
this.
Z
Secondly,
we
would
also
request
that
the
applicant
submit
artist
information
and
sketches
of
the
proposed
work
to
the
city
staff
for
review
and
approval
prior
to
the
installation,
because
again
that's
something
that
is
required
under
our
public
Arts
ordinance
and
that
would
satisfy
that
requirement
with
that.
That
concludes
my
presentation
to
you.
I
am
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
do
have
the
applicant
here
in
the
audience,
if
you
have
any
questions
for
them
as
well.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you
for
Middleton.
The
first
question
is
either
for
flanner
for
the
City
attorney.
There
was
questions
by
the
public
Arts
commission
as
to
whether
or
not
was
legally
permissible
for
funds
to
be
used
for
a
project
of
this
nature.
If
I'm
reading
the
staff
report
correctly,
you
are
concluding
that
it
is
legally
permissible.
Is
that
correct.
Z
F
Z
F
One
last
question:
Flynn:
for
you
all
of
this
These
funds
is
375
thousand
dollars
that
results
from
the
fact
that
the
battery
storage
project
is
being
built
correct.
That
is
correct.
All
right,
Mr
Noble,
the
battery
storage
project.
Could
you
describe
that
in
some
general
terms
as
to
what
it
is,
what
it
will
accomplish
for
our
community
and
what
the
kind
of
time
frames
and
costs
associated
with
this
full
project
are.
J
Well,
it
is
a
500
million
dollar
project
about
90
percent,
completed
that
1600
containers
containing
storage
batteries
have
been
installed
and
will
charge
during
the
afternoons
when
we
have
abundant
solar
energy.
There's
solar
is
so
abundant
in
California.
Now
that
it
they
actually
pay
Arizona
to
take
the
power
in
this
in
the
hot
summer
afternoons
and
then
at
night
the
sun
goes
down
and
the
power
rates
go
Sky,
High,
and
so
with
the
next
era
and
the
desert
storage
people
are
doing
is
charging
the
battery.
J
This
is
pursuant
to
a
man,
a
a
very
intense
State
program
to
get
this
done
to
charge
the
batteries
with
the
cheap
power
and
then
discharge
it
in
the
evenings
and
drive
the
price
of
on
feet
power
down
for
the
benefit
of
the
consumers.
The
the
parent
company
is
next
era,
which
is
the
biggest
wind
energy
developer
in
the
operator
in
the
United
States,
and
they
have
the
interest
in
restoring
the
original
windmill.
Here,
that's
how
this
all
came
about,
but
the
battery
is
is
the
biggest
one
in
California.
AA
J
J
It's
about
a
quarter
mile,
but
it's
on
the
freeway,
where
it
can
be
seen
that
was,
our
thinking
is
put
it
down
where
people
can
see
it
and
we
thought
we
would
put
lights
on
it
when
it
runs
we're
going
to
bring
it
back
to
operating
condition,
we're
not
going
to
run
it
all
the
time.
So
we
thought
when
it
runs,
the
lights
will
go
on
when
it
doesn't
turn
it'll
go
off
because
it's
the
last
one.
J
F
S
That's
been
done
for
many
years
and
I'm
drawn
between
you
know,
hearing
what
the
public
Arts
commission
sent
to
us
and
stepping
back
and
and
following
on
some
of
the
comments
by
council
member
Littleton
is,
is
really
looking
at
how
this
project
can
really
be
looked
at
more
as
a
culturally
significant
project
to
promote
Palm,
Springs
role
in
the
history
and
and
claim
our
place
in
this
wind,
energy,
Market
or
industry
and
I
I
do
feel
it's
the
right
path
to
go
down
and
for
the
for
us
to
approve
what's
before
us.
But
I.
P
Z
P
Z
Z
P
I
had
just
a
couple,
questions
for
the
applicant
and
I
should
first
I
should
say:
I
did
meet
with
the
applicant
on
a
different
thing
to
see
the
whole
site
a
few
weeks
ago,
and
this
was
brought
up
in
passing,
but
not
really
discussed.
It
was
more
about
seeing
the
battery
storage.
I
should
have
said
that
first
I
apologize.
So
the
question
is:
is:
is
this
what
hours
would
this
be
accessible
to
the
public
and
could
they
tour
the
whole
Parthenon
and
and
Stonehenge
or
just
see.
J
It
the
answer
is:
yes,
they
can
tour
it.
We
don't
have
the
hours
completely
fine,
but
essentially
nine
to
five
and
then
I
think
there
will
be
events,
probably
in
the
evening
I
think
if
people
will
use
that
Parthenon
for
weddings,
I
think
they'll
use
it
for
children
for
School
tours
we're
gonna.
We're
gonna
put
a
sign
out
in
front
that
says
for
children.
J
That
will
be
we'll
have
school
children
there
in
terms
of
artists,
I'm,
going
to
throw
it
open
to
everybody,
wants
to
come
out
and
and
apply
I
looked
forward
to
seeing
you
know,
schools
send
people
and
Commercial
artists
and
people
and
amateur
artists,
send
people
and
generally
there's
there's.
You
know,
there's
almost
50
of
these
blades
to
paint
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
expanding
it,
opening
it
up
to
everybody.
It
wants
to
take
a
look
at
it,
we're
going
to
control
it
with
the
theme.
J
That's
the
down
the
road
where
the
next
step
is
is
to
get
a
museum
going.
We
have
lots
of
other
artifacts
and
over
time,
we're
going
to
get
them
out
of
the
storage
and
restore
them
and
try
to
build
this
out
into
a
something
is
important
because
I
said
it
before,
but
I'll
say
it
again.
It
all
started
here:
wind
energy
was
was
kind
of
a
joke
and
we
proved
it
here
to
be
commercially
viable
in
the
particular
machine.
We're
restoring
is
the
one
that
made
that
case,
which
is
why
I
think
it's
important
too.
P
And
just
to
confirm:
there's
not
going
to
be
a
charge
for
people
to
go
tour
it
and
see.
No,
sir!
Okay,
thank
you.
Those
are
my
questions.
So
I'll
just
make
some
comments.
I
do
I
do
think.
It
was
unfortunate
that
the
full
thing
was
not
presented
to
the
Arts
commission
ahead
of
time
and
and
I,
don't
want
to
be
dismissive
of
their
work
and
expertise
and
the
process
and
and
I,
and
they
actually
seemed
very
supportive
of
the
project
in
in
some
of
the
comments.
I
read.
P
P
P
Don't
you
know
I,
don't
want
to
be
dismissive
of
the
Arts
commission
and
and
I
actually
before
I
was
on
Council
worked
with
them
on
the
street
art
bench
project
and
I
think
they
could
be
very
helpful
in
working
on
selecting
artists
that
would
go,
go
through
this
process
and
any
other
Design
Elements.
So
those
are
my
comments
and
questions.
Thank
you.
S
Q
I,
don't
think
for
the
as
the
maker
of
the
motion.
I,
don't
think
it's
something
we
need
to
include
in
the
motion.
Unless
that's
your
request,
it
might
be
an
alternative
one,
but
just
asking
that
the
applicant
work
with
the
Arts
commission
and
those
members
to
have
a
public
process
for
the
Arts
portion
of
it.
J
The
our
commission
has
a
rather
stringent
process
for
picking
artists
and
and
our
vision
is
that
we're
going
to
open
up
school
children
who
knows
who
it's
going
to
be
I'll,
be
happy
to
consult
with
them,
but
I,
don't
think
we
should
adopt
their
artist
selection
process,
but
we
look
forward
to
them.
Helping
us
find
people,
yes,.
P
Okay,
so
then,
then
I
will
just
ask
that
they
that
we,
that
our
staff
involve
the
Arts
Commission
in
the
process
and
ideally,
if
the
applicant
will
include
them
in
selecting
artists
or
at
least
in
reviewing
and
contributing
I,
think
that
would
be.
That
would
be
helpful
and
also
get
them
involved
in
the
process
going
along.
So
I
will
move.
I
will
go
with
the
original
motion
and
just
hope
that
that
happens.
A
Z
Z
J
A
I
see
so
the
Arts
commission
raised
several
points
during
their
meeting.
They
also
asked
that
the
applicant
work
with
them
on
those
issues
and
then
come
back
before
the
Arts
commission.
Instead,
the
applicant
asked
for
a
yes
or
no
vote
so
that
they
could
then
come
and
appeal
to
council
I.
Don't
feel
that
this
is
an
appropriate
response.
It
is
important
for
us
to
follow
the
ordinances
and
the
requests
that
we
have
in
our
commissions.
A
Our
commissions
are
doing
really
important
work
and
they
had
legitimate
questions,
and
this
project
should
have
gone
back
to
the
Arts
commission.
For
that
further
review.
Before
coming
to
us,
it's
very
disappointing
to
see
that
our
Arts
commission
was
dismissed
in
this
way
and
that
their
questions
were
not
given
more
Merit,
and
so
just
the
process
that
was
taken.
A
I
find
very
frustrating
and
I
would
like
to
see
us
work
on
making
sure
that,
in
the
future,
we're
making
sure
that
our
Arts
commission
is
given
the
what
they
need
to
approve
these
projects
and
especially
considering
how
many
projects
are
in
the
queue
that
have
not
reached
Council,
yet
that
are
waiting
to
be
funded
by
a
small
artists
in
our
city,
and
then
this
one
is
able
to
move
fast
forward
to
us,
so
Madam
clerk.
If
we
can
have
the
vote,
I
would
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
A
A
The
last
item
on
the
agenda
is
item
3C,
to
request
to
add
chapter
5.89
to
the
Palm
Springs
Municipal
Code,
relating
to
sidewalk
vending,
also
an
amendment
to
chapter
5.48
relative
to
commercial
solicitation
and
amendments
to
chapter
6.15
relating
to
the
regulation
of
mobile
food
vending
Vehicles.
Can
we
have
a
staff
report?
Please.
Z
Madam,
mayor
and
members
of
council,
we
have
the
sidewalk
vending
ordinance
back
on
the
agenda
for
your
discussion
this
evening.
By
way
of
background,
the
sidewalk
vending
regulations
come
down
to
us
from
the
state,
as
has
been
mentioned
in
public
testimony
in
2018
SB
946
was
adopted,
which
offers
protections
to
sidewalk
vendors
and
then
also
establishes
the
parameters
for
local
regulations.
Z
What
it
does
allow
is
for
both
stationary
sidewalk
vendors
and
so
those
who
set
up
with
tables
or
carts
or
racks
or
some
other
type
of
display,
and
then
also
allows
for
roaming
sidewalk
vendors.
They
may
either
be
carrying
products
or
pushing
a
card
or
something
along
those
lines,
and
both
of
those
activities
are
to
occur
in
the
public
right-of-way.
Z
The
city
council
considered
a
draft
ordinance
back
in
November
of
last
year.
Keeping
in
mind,
however,
that
we
have
two
new
city
council
members
on
city
council.
There
might
be
differing
opinions
than
the
direction
that
was
provided
to
us
in
November,
and
so
we're
happy
to
listen
to
your
comments
and
your
take
your
input
this
evening.
But
again
we
did
have
some
Direction
in
November
and
made
changes
according
to
that.
Z
They
also
apply
to
public
parks
plazas,
but
I
want
to
just
mention
public
rights
of
way,
because
this
is
kind
of
a
critical
issue
in
terms
of
placement
of
stationary
vendors.
So
in
terms
of
the
public
right-of-way,
it's
not
always
clearly
visible
when
you're
there,
where
property
lines
are
or
where
the
edge
of
the
right-of-way
is.
Generally
it's
the
back
of
the
sidewalk.
Sometimes
it's
several
feet
behind
the
sidewalk
and
in
certain
cases
the
sidewalk
actually
is
on
private
property,
and
so
it's
not
always
easy
to
distinguish
where
the
right-of-way
is.
Z
Another
thing
to
take
into
consideration
is
that
sometimes
we
have
very
limited
sidewalk
area
in
our
public
rights
of
way,
I'm
showing
you
maps
from
East
Ramon
Road.
This
is
in
the
vicinity
of
where
the
Home,
Depot
and
Lowe's
are
in
that
particular
area.
The
right-of-way
is
a
hundred
feet
in
width
and
then
within
that
public
right-of-way,
we
have
behind
the
curb,
only
eight
feet
on
each
side.
Z
Stationary
vendors
are
allowed
in
commercial
zones
and
when
I
say
commercial
zones,
that
includes
industrial
zones
as
well.
Roaming
vendors
are
allowed
in
both
residential
zones
and
in
commercial
and
Industrial
zones.
So
roaming
vendors
can
basically
be
anywhere
in
the
city.
Stationary
vendors
are
limited
to
Commercial
and
Industrial
zones.
Z
Another
thing
relative
to
location.
What
we're
proposing
is
to
maintain
48
inches
of
pedestrian
passage.
We
had
additionally
recommended
72
inches
you've
had
testimony
relative
to
that
this
evening,
and
so
we
have
made
that
modification
from
what
you
saw
back
in
November.
There
are
also
stipulations
in
terms
of
proximity
to
fire.
Hydrants
bus
stops,
handicap
parking
spaces
driveways
for
police
and
fire
stations,
and
again
that's
in
the
interest
of
Public
Safety.
Z
Also,
we
have
restrictions
about
Corner
visibility
zones.
I
have
had
comments
in
terms
of
the
language
that
we
have
in
there.
We
would
propose
to
simplify
that
to
make
it
easier
to
apply
for
vendors
as
they're
looking
for
spaces
to
locate
also,
they
cannot
be
within
parking
spaces,
driveways
or
block
building
entrances
or
Windows.
The
reason
for
that
is
Public
Safety
again
for
police
and
fire
Personnel
to
have
visibility
into
businesses.
Z
One
of
the
things
that
we
have
specified
is
a
separation
from
farmers,
markets
and
special
events.
The
language
in
the
state
law
is
in
the
vicinity
of,
and
there
is
no
definition
of
what
that
means.
I
had
proposed
500
feet,
but
I've
since
been
corrected
and
suggested
that
that
should
be
much
less,
and
so
what
you
may
have
seen
in
public
comment
or
in
the
letters
that
you've
received
is
that
should
be
much
less
than
500
feet
and
perhaps
50
feet
would
be
the
appropriate
measurement.
So
again,
that's
something
that
city
council
can
set.
Z
One
of
the
things
that
was
requested
by
Code
Compliance
is:
it
does
need
to
be
a
definite
number
because,
as
I
had
mentioned
in
the
vicinity
of,
doesn't
give
anyone
a
clear
picture
of
where
they
can
locate
in
terms
of
the
cart
or
furniture
that
is
utilized.
We're
proposing
the
following
stationary
vendors
can
have
a
cart,
a
rack,
a
stand
or
a
display.
We
would
also
propose
that
they'd
be
allowed
one
umbrella
or
shade
structure.
Z
Here
is
where
I
have
suggested
that
an
eight
by
eight
easy
up
would
probably
be
the
most
reasonable.
The
reason
why
I
had
suggested
that
instead
of
the
more
standard
10
by
10
model,
is
because
again
we
have
very
constrained
rights
of
way.
A
10
by
10,
easy
up
in
most
cases
on
a
public
sidewalk
is
going
to
encroach
on
private
property,
and
so
that
creates
an
issue
there's
less
of
an
issue
with
an
umbrella,
as
it
has
typically
a
single
pole.
Z
That's
supporting
it
and
as
long
as
there's
seven
feet
of
clearance
for
the
sidewalk,
it's
much
easier
to
have
an
umbrella
in
those
areas
where
we
have
a
constrained
right-of-way.
Now,
when
we're
in
a
public
park
or
a
public
Plaza
or
we
don't
have
the
issues
of
ADA
access
or
pedestrian
congestion,
we
could
see
a
larger
tent
structure
being
appropriate.
Z
Another
thing
that
we're
proposing
is
that
they'd
be
limited
to
one
food
preparation
table
or
food
cart
and
that
they
not
have
dining
tables
and
chairs.
We
have
also
included
language
about
signage.
We
didn't
have
language
in
the
previous
version.
What
we're
proposing
is
that
they
be
permitted.
The
same
type
of
signage
that
would
be
permitted
for
temporary
signs
under
our
existing
sign
code,
and
that
would
be
one
sign
of
16
square
feet
or
two
signs
of
eight
square
feet
each
because
of
access
issues.
Z
We're
also
indicating
that
merchandise
cannot
be
stored
in
the
sidewalk
area
and
then
no
electrical
cords
gas
lines
or
water
lines
being
permitted.
These
typically
are
tripping
hazards
and
again
we're
dealing
with
constrained
rights
of
way
in
terms
of
food
related
requirements.
We
are
requiring
that
permits
be
obtained
from
Riverside
County
they're
in
the
process
of
developing
specific
regulations
for
sidewalk
vending.
They
expect
to
have
those
available
to
the
public
in
April
and
so
we're
referring
to
their
requirements
for
those
vendors
that
would
be
selling
food
products.
Z
We
had
had
questions
and
comments
from
the
public
relative
to
the
use
of
open
flames
and
barbecues.
What
we
have
done
is
basically
stated
that
they
must
adhere
to
fire
code
requirements,
so
those
operations
would
not
be
allowed
underneath
the
tent,
obviously
for
safety
reasons
and
then
relative
to
the
smoke
and
odors.
That
may
be
produced
we're
referring
to
an
existing
section
in
the
municipal
code
relative
to
air
pollution,
and
so
they
would
be
subject
to
those
regulations,
just
as
any
other
business
would
and
then.
Z
One
of
the
questions
that
I've
had
in
our
sidewalk
vending
ordinance
is
relative
to
trash
receptacles
that
is
covered
under
the
County's
requirements,
and
so
I
haven't
included
that
language
in
the
sidewalk
vending
Ordinance.
One
of
the
difficulties,
including
language
from
the
County's
ordinance,
is,
if
it
ever
changes,
then
we
have
to
go
back
and
change
our
ordinance
as
well.
It's
best
just
to
reference
it
rather
than
putting
the
standard
in
there
in
terms
of
the
hours
of
operation.
Since
you
saw
this
in
November,
we
since
expanded
it
to
8
A.M
to
12
a.m.
Z
Z
If
you
choose
to
do
so
relative
to
public
parks,
we
had
proposed
to
allow
it
in
public
parks
that
are
greater
than
two
acres
in
size.
One
of
the
things
that
we
would
add
to
that
is
or
by
city
council
approval,
and
then
I
wanted
to
just
point
out
that
even
in
the
smaller
Parks
they'd
still
be
allowed
on
the
sidewalks
adjacent
to
the
park
regardless,
and
then
we
have
language
in
terms
of
prohibiting
that
in
parks,
where
there's
an
exclusive
concession
agreement,
we
have
language
where
they're
selling
the
same
products.
Z
If
they're
selling
different
products,
then
I
think
it
would
be
appropriate
to
allow
that
to
occur.
We've
also
had
a
comment
relative
to
allowing
roaming
vendors
in
all
parks,
regardless
of
whether
there's
a
concession
agreement
or
not.
So
that's
something
that
you
could
consider
in
terms
of
the
permit
process.
We
are
requiring
a
business
license
and
then
also
a
seller's
permit
from
the
Department
of
Taxation
and
then
any
required
County
permits.
Where
there
is
food
preparation
involved,
they
would
need
to
provide
those
to
the
city
upon
obtaining
their
business
license.
Z
We
have
eliminated
any
language
relative
to
the
provision
of
an
encroachment
permit
or
a
Live
Scan
report
or
Insurance
verification.
I
will
say
that
our
attorney
would
recommend
that
our
vendors
have
general
liability
insurance.
It
was
mentioned
in
our
previous
discussion
in
terms
of
barriers
to
entry,
and
so
just
take
that
under
consideration.
Z
As
you
look
at
establishing
those
requirements,
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
added
based
on
public
input,
Mr
Espinoza,
had
suggested
to
us
to
allow
the
establishment
of
sidewalk
vending
zones,
and
so
we've
added
language
into
the
ordinance
to
allow
city
council
to
approve
sidewalk
vending
zones
by
resolution.
You
might
consider
again
something
like
a
public
Plaza,
an
area
in
a
park.
We
have
the
downtown
park,
which
has
an
area
on
the
east
side
of
the
park
that
was
originally
identified
as
a
sculpture
garden.
Z
That's
something
that
may
be
used
as
a
sidewalk
vending
Zone,
but
we
would
allow
the
city
council
to
determine
those
areas
by
resolution.
As
part
of
that,
you
may
also
relax
certain
standards
in
those
zones
as
an
incentive
to
locate
there.
That
could
be
anything
from
allowing
greater
tent
structures,
additional
preparation,
tables,
expanded,
display
areas,
or
things
like
that,
because
you
are
dealing
with
a
larger
space
rather
than
a
space
that
is
constrained.
Z
Those
types
of
concessions
would
be
appropriate
in
designated
zones,
and
so
we
are
establishing
a
process
for
the
city
council
to
do
that.
We're
not
requesting
you
to
do
that
this
evening.
I
think
that's
something
that
would
need
some
additional
study
and
discussion,
but
certainly
something
that
we
would
feel
would
be
appropriate
to
consider
based
on
the
public
input
that
we've
received.
Z
Z
Looking
at
our
existing
ordinance
and
talking
about
restrictions
based
on
some
of
the
limiting
factors
that
we
have
in
the
current
ordinance
number
one
that
they
are
prohibited
in
the
defined
downtown
area
and
then
secondly,
they're
prohibited
on
streets
where
the
Spree
speed
limit
is
greater
than
35
miles
per
hour.
That
leaves
a
very
limited
area
where
food
trucks,
May
locate
and
so
I've
got
a
number
of
maps
showing
here
and
I
apologize.
This
is
at
a
very
small
scale.
Z
Z
We
also
allow
them
as
part
of
special
events,
grand
openings
for
businesses
and
things
like
that,
but
outside
of
those
areas,
as
you
can
see,
there's
a
very
limited
area
where
they
could
locate
based
on
that,
what
we
might
do
is
think
about
expanding
that
by
allowing
the
following
allowing
them
in
the
downtown
area,
but
I'd
recommend
that
we
not
permit
them
on
Palm
Canyon
Drive.
Just
because
again
we
have
constraints
in
that
area.
There
are
safety
concerns,
there's
also
limited
parking
spaces
there.
Z
What
we
might
consider
is
allowing
them
on
the
side
streets,
where
it's
a
little
bit
less
constrained.
We
could
also
consider
Indian
Canyon,
allowing
them
on
Indian
Canyon.
However,
we
may
want
to
look
at
portions
of
Indian
Canyon.
There
is
a
segment
there
between
baristo
and
probably
Andreas
oralejo,
that,
similarly
to
Palm
Canyon
is
somewhat
constrained
in
terms
of
parking
spaces
and
access,
and
so
that's
something
that
we
need
to
look
at.
We
would
also
need
to
look
at
any
conflicts
with
Village
Fest
on
Thursday
nights
and
what
we
might
do
with
that.
Z
So
again,
just
some
things
to
consider
in
terms
of
locational
requirements.
We
are
proposing
some
other
modifications
to
allow
them
in
Parks,
using
the
same
language
as
sidewalk
vendor,
except
where
there's
an
exclusive
concession
agreement
in
place
or
they're
selling
merchandise.
That
is
different
than
what
the
concession
would
allow
we're
also
proposing
to
modify
the
hours
of
operation
to
be
the
same
as
sidewalk
vendors.
As
with
sidewalk
vendors,
you
could
also
consider
extending
those
hours
longer
if
you
would
choose
to
do
so
in
the
current
ordinance.
Z
There
is
a
limitation
by
summer
hours
and
winter
hours.
We
would
just
make
those
year-round
hours
instead
of
limiting
them
as
such.
That
concludes
my
presentation.
I
know.
There's
a
lot
of
information.
There's
a
lot
of
discussion,
a
lot
of
comment.
I,
don't
think
we
would
expect
to
finalize
any
ordinance
this
evening
based
on
the
amount
of
comments
that
we've
had,
but
we're
certainly
open
to
your
questions
and
we'll
take
your
direction
as
we
move
forward
in
the
process.
A
Thank
you
so
much
Flynn
I
really
appreciate
this.
It's
very
comprehensive
and
thank
you
as
well.
I
know
that
at
the
last
meeting
we
gave
a
lot
of
feedback
and
our
our
Deputy
city
manager,
Flynn
fagg,
worked
with
Juan
Espinosa,
who
is
here,
who
is
an
attorney
and
who's
worked
on
this
issue
at
the
Statewide
level,
so
he's
very
familiar
with
with
the
law,
and
we
really
appreciate
Flynn
that
you
were
able
to
to
talk
with
him
and
get
his
Viewpoint
as
well,
since
we're
so
lucky
to
have
somebody
in
our
city.
A
That
knows
this
forwards
and
backwards.
I
just
also
want
to
thank
the
organizers
that
are
in
the
room,
who
have
been
talking
to
Street
vendors
on
the
ground.
I
think
that's
really
important
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
those
voices
and
to
our
restaurant
on
Hospitality
I
know.
There
was
a
comment
about
engaging
more
with
the
community
on
this,
but
I
do
want
to
say.
We
have
received
many
many
comments
from
the
hospitality
Community
from
restaurant
owners
and
and
others
about
this
issue
and
as
well
as
organizers.
A
So
we
are
getting
a
lot
of
comments
and
as
we
we
just
heard,
this
is
probably
not
over
tonight-
we're
probably
going
to
have
many
more
discussions.
So
there
will
be
more
opportunity
to
discuss
this
issue
and
receive
public
comments
at
length
and
just
a
quick
point
of
clarification
for
our
mayor
Pro
tem.
Did
you
want
to
explain
or
well
I'll
just
say:
are
we
if
we
are
going
to
be
specifically
discussing
the
downtown
then
and
oh
I'm?
Sorry,
if
we're?
A
If
we
do
discuss
really
down
Palm
Canyon
in
relation
to
food
trucks,
then
mayor
Pro,
tem
will
have
to
recuse.
So
I
do
ask
that
when
we
do
get
to
that
portion,
if
we
are
going
to
specifically
be
talking
about
food
trucks
potentially
being
on
Palm
Canyon,
that
we
allow
for
mayor
Pro
tem
to
step
out
first.
A
AB
F
Z
Z
F
Z
F
F
F
Z
There
would
be
keep
in
mind,
however,
that
we
don't
have
a
sidewalk
vending
ordinance
in
place,
yet
we've
been
doing
minor
enforcement.
If
you
will,
where
we
do
receive
complaints,
we
do
have
Code
Compliance
visit
the
vendor.
We
can
require
a
business
license
at
this
point
in
time,
as
well
as
referring
them
to
the
county
department
of
environmental
health.
I
think,
once
we
have
an
ordinance
in
place,
we
can
be
much
more
robust,
robust
in
our
enforcement
of
the
ordinance,
as
well
as
the
county
having
their
regulations
in
place.
So.
F
F
That
is
correct.
Can
we
impose
a
requirement
that
the
business
license
and
the
land
use
permit,
be
placed
in
a
prominent
location
on
the
Street
vending
operations
so
that
anyone
from
the
public
would
have
an
ability
to
know
that
this
is
a
licensed
business
and
one
that
has
that
is
operating
legally
yeah.
F
So
when
we
opened
up
parts
of
Palm
Canyon
to
the
pop-outs,
allowing
many
of
our
restaurants
to
expand
our
first
initial
effort
with
those
is
we
pretty
much
made
them
open
to
just
about
anyone
to
to
expand
out?
And
we
found
that
was
not
an
appropriate
way
to
to
deal
with
the
Aesthetics
and
with
traffic
flows
and
move
to
a
process
whereby
we
charge
a
restaurant
to
be
able
to
expand
into
what
was
public
right
away
and
impose
standards
regarding
the
Aesthetics
of
what
those
facilities
would
look
like?
Z
AB
Thank
you
Flynn.
Can
everyone
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
so
state
law
allows
you
to
require
the
business
license
and
you
can
impose
a
fee
for
that.
That's
one
way
you
can,
you
know
exact
a
fee
for
for
someone
operating
in
that
right
of
way.
Another
thing
would
be
the
options
that
were
previously
discussed,
but
I
believe
that
a
majority
at
least
a
back
Council.
There
are
different
people
on
this
Council,
but
a
majority
of
that
Council
wanted
to
not
impose
a
requirement
for
an
encroachment
permit.
F
Z
F
Z
F
AB
State
law
has
two
different
administrative
buying
regimes.
The
first
is
someone
who
has
gone
through
the
process
and
has
received
their
business
license
from
the
city,
and
if
that
individual
has
violated
the
terms
of
their
business
license
that
was
issued
to
them,
then
a
first
violation
can
be
penalized
for
a
fine
not
to
exceed
100
for
the
first
violation
for
the
second
violation.
It
can
be
a
fine
not
exceeding
two
hundred
dollars
and
for
the
third
and
every
subsequent
violation
they
can
each
be
a
fine
not
exceeding
five
hundred
dollars.
AB
E
All
right,
I'll
go
with
that.
You
know
the
insurance
requirement
is
kind
of
a
belts
and
suspenders.
You
know,
state
law
provides
for
immunities
to
cities
for
allegations
of
of
of
harm
that
result
from
the
issuance
of
a
permit,
which
is
really
the
city's.
Only
action
in
administering
this
program,
so
I
think
the
city
is
protected
to
a
large
degree
by
those
statutory
immunities.
Z
P
AB
That
might
be
seen,
as
only
in
economic
reason,
to
impose
that
regulation
and
although
I'm
I'm,
not
a
hundred
percent
about
this,
my
take
is
that
reading
the
the
legislation-
Provisions
that
say,
economic
competition
cannot
be
considered
a
basis
for
regulations
that
would
be
considered
objective.
Health,
safety
or
welfare
concerns
that
that
leads
me
to
lean
towards
that.
The
city
may
not
be
able
to
do
that.
Okay,
but
if
you
can
come
up
with
an
objective
health,
safety
or
welfare
concern
beyond
the
economics,
perhaps
it
could
yeah.
P
Well,
I
guess
it
may
be
some
types
of
also
informational,
educational
signage,
that
you
know
we
had
signs
on
our
Windows.
It
said
you
have
to
wear
a
mask
or
something
like
that,
so
there
may
be
something
I'm,
not
I'm.
Just
that
was
more
of
a
question
and
the
next
question
the
difference
between
roaming
and
a
stationary.
They
can
they're
roaming
if
they
only
stop
to
do
a
transaction.
Z
Technically,
roaming
means
that
they
continue
to
roam
but
you're
right
if
they
are
making
multiple
transactions
they're
somewhat
stationary
I.
Think
really.
The
distinguishing
difference
is
those
who
set
up
tables
or
racks.
Those
aren't
moved,
but
a
roaming
vendor
will
either
have
a
cart
which
can
be
moved
easily
or
somehow
is
carrying
the
merchandise
with
them.
I
think
that
really
becomes
the
distinguishing
factor
between
roaming
and
stationary.
Okay,.
AA
Z
P
Z
Don't
really
have
anyone
designated
other
than
the
team
that
we
have
at
our
business
licensing
counter
one
of
the
things
and,
in
fact,
mayor
Pro
tem.
You
forwarded
some
information
to
me
that
other
communities
have
done
as
they
put
together
graphic
brochures
in
both
English
Spanish
and
other
languages
to
assist
those
who
may
be
interested
in
having
vending
businesses
I'm
working
with
our
Communications
team
to
develop
the
same
once
we
get
to
a
point
where
we
have
solidified
our
own
regulations,
and
so
we
would
propose
to
do
that
as
well.
Z
P
Well,
I'm,
just
going
to
mention,
as
I
have
mentioned
before,
we
need
to
have
a
business
liaison
for
existing
businesses,
and
I
will
mention
that
every
time
it
comes
up
because
there
really
is
no
one.
Our
Economic
Development
Department
is
also
our
housing
and
our
you
know
homelessness
and
they
are
spread
thin
and
they're
the
they
don't
know
they
don't
work.
They
don't
actively
go
to
businesses
and
I
should
just
am
I
okay
to
do
comments
now
or
just
questions.
P
P
There
is
a
lot
more
information
that
we
should
be
getting
and
that
and
we
should
have
a
robust
database
of
our
30
000
business
license
holders
that
are
out
there.
So
that's
just
another
Point
I
do
want
to
stay
on.
The
health
department
is
still
developing.
What
their
plan
is
for
this,
so
they're
only
doing
a
permit,
but
right
now,
as
I
understand
it.
There's
no
grading
or
follow-up
inspections.
Is
that
right?
No.
P
So
I
was
something
that
I
would
you
know?
Obviously,
health
and
safety
is,
is
the
main
you
know
concern
that
we
have
you
put
the
limit
on
the
the
64
square
foot
tent
as
opposed
to
the
100
square
foot
as
long
as
they
are
meeting
the
other
requirements
in
terms
of
access
doesn't
matter
to
us,
whether
it's
eight
or
ten
feet.
P
I
mean
it's
just
going
to
limit
more
what
they
could
be,
but
I
will,
as
somebody
who
has
had
a
lot
of
tense
I
can
tell
you
it.
Eight
by
eight
is
not
as
easy
to
find
so
I
would
do
that.
Oh
I
am
going
to
mention
I'd
rather
not
discuss
food
trucks
tonight,
because
I
think
this
is
more
complicated
and
there's
a
lot
of
questions
that
come
up
and
I.
Think
we
want
to
get
this
right
and
and
do
that
and
that
may
involve
stakeholder
conversation.
P
Z
Mr
Maldonado,
just
by
way
of
background,
we
do
have
the
Palm
Springs
Walk
of
Stars,
on
Palm
Canyon
and
on
some
of
our
side
streets.
We've
had
public
comment
relative
to
some
type
of
restriction
to
prevent
those
from
being
covered
by
a
sidewalk
vendor
in
your
assessment.
Is
that
something
that
the
city
could
regulate
or
do
we
not
have
the
ability
to
do
that.
AB
You
can
designate
some
areas
off
limits
if
you
can
tie
it
to
objective
health
safety.
Welfare
concerns.
I'll.
Give
you
another
example
that
Los
Angeles
has
done.
City
of
Ontario
has
done
this
as
well
around
their
event,
centers,
where
they
have
big
concerts
on
event
days.
They
have
restrictions,
saying
you
can't
be
within
so
many
feet
of
those
places
during
the
times
of
the
event
and
they
and
they
point
to
pedestrian
traffic
vehicular
traffic.
So
there's
a
tie
there
to
objective
health
safety
welfare
concerns.
P
P
It
seems
to
me
that,
if
it's
sort
of,
if
there's
a
street
closure
that
is
causing
crowds
that
are
going
to
go
through
an
area
that
could
be
a
safety
issue,
if
it's
not
that
kind
of
an
I
don't
know
if
we
can
make
a
difference,
is
that
possible
to
say
on
the
type
of
a
special
event
permit
something
like
when
you
have?
You
know
Pride
or
something
like
that?
Z
P
Are
pretty
much
all
my
questions
and
my
comment
is
just
if
I
can
say
you
know,
I
actually
I
believe
in
this
idea
of
helping
you
know,
entrepreneurs
and
helping
and
local
and
small
businesses
doing
it
and
I.
This
is
why
I
think
sidewalk
vendors
are
actually
different
than
food
trucks,
which
are
not
always
local,
but
but
you
know
and
I
believe
in
helping
them.
I
think
this
has
been
an
issue
that
we've
had
in
our
city
for
a
long
time
that
we
don't
have.
P
Somebody
who
helps
our
small
businesses
and
a
lot
of
our
brick
and
mortar
are
very,
very
small
businesses
that
that
you
know
I
know
during
the
pandemic,
when
council
member
Holsted
was
going
door
to
door,
there
was
really
just
single
person.
Businesses
out
there,
so
I
I
want
to
help
and
support
this
and
I
think
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
could
be
good
for
our
community
so
long
as
we
we
we
work
with
them
and
we
help
them
and
we
listen
to
their
concerns.
P
My
guess
is
that
whatever
happens
with
our
first
ordinance
is
going
to
end
up
being
want
to
we're
going
to
want
to
update
it
in
two
years.
When
we
see
what
the
real
effect
is
and
that's
probably
going
to
happen
in
the
Statewide,
but
I
also
agree
with
some
of
the
comments
earlier
that
these
are
often
local
residents.
I
would
be
concerned
about
corporations
coming
in
I.
P
Don't
think,
there's
anything
in
the
state
law
that
prohibit
lets
us
prohibit
that,
but
at
least
the
permit
process
will
let
us
find
out
whether
that's
there
and
evidence
doesn't
really
show
it's
it's
happening.
So
those
are
some
of
my
comments.
I
may
have
more,
but
I
know
I've
presented
a
lot
in
advance
of
this.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
Q
You
thank
you
for
those
comments
and
I
really
appreciate
those
points
and
agree
with
you
and
I
was
brought
to
this
issue
actually.
First
with
food
trucks,
because
I
had
been
working
with
an
organization
that
did
the
Coachella
Food
Truck
Park,
and
then
we
had
been
working
on
doing
a
Palm,
Springs,
Food,
Truck,
Park,
and
that
organization
helps
local
vendors.
Who
you
know
often
are
from
communities
where
you
know
they
don't
have
the
startup
costs
to
build
a
brick
and
mortar
business
out
the
gate
but
are
working
on.
Q
And
so
actually,
we
should
think
about
how
our
ordinances
are
preventing
entrepreneurship
and
businesses.
To
start
up
and
I
always
strongly
I
always
sit
here
and
stay
say.
A
rising
tide
lifts
all
boats,
more
people
going
to
downtown
to
visit,
Street
vendors
or
food
trucks.
Etc
helps
our
whole
economy.
These
are
key
parts
of
our
economy.
So
thank
you
for
saying
that,
because
I
very
much
want
to
take
a
positive
approach
here.
Q
I
support
your
comments
about
supporting
business
owners
and
entrepreneurs
in
the
city
to
start
up
and
to
go
through
the
process
because
I'm,
a
lawyer
and
I,
probably
would
have
a
very
difficult
time.
Navigating
all
the
permits
like
Flynn
I,
just
learned,
if
I
hold
a
private
party
at
my
house
on
private
property
with
a
food
truck,
do
I
need
a
land
use.
Permit.
Q
P
Q
Every
New
Years
and
different
parties-
they
do
they
do
food
truck
Parks.
So
these
things
are
already
happening
and
it
is
like
a
patchwork
of
Regulation,
but
I
really
appreciate
what
staff
brought
forward
and
thank
you
to
staff
for
working
really
thoughtfully
and
thank
you
to
Our.
Community
Partners
really
appreciate
the
work
that
these
non-profits
are
doing
to
make
these
laws
work
for
the
community
and
Street
vendors
who
who
we
want
to
help
and
support,
get
get
up
and
running
and
continue
their
businesses.
Q
I
will
try
to
just
consolidate
my
question.
So
could
you
speak
a
little
bit
for
hours
of
operation?
So,
just
like
you
mentioned,
we
don't
limit
hours
for
other
types
of
restaurants
or
other
businesses.
Bars
are
limited
by
state
law
because
of
the
liquor
license.
But
can
you
just
explain
the
thinking
behind
operating
hours
and
limiting
them
till
midnight?
For
example,
we're.
Z
Just
trying
to
think
of
the
impacts,
looking
at
some
of
the
comments
that
we've
had
from
members
of
the
public
where
a
commercial
areas
across
the
street
from
a
residential
area,
there
have
been
complaints
about
vendors,
some
of
the
lighting,
some
of
the
music
that's
played
at
the
vendor
station
Etc.
So
just
trying
to
be
mindful
of
that.
On
the
other
hand,
city
council
can
determine
what
hours
may
be
appropriate,
and
so
you
do
have
the
flexibility
to
extend
the
hours
you
could
make
them
24
hours
a
day.
Z
Z
AB
Q
AA
Q
Do
think
I
am
worried,
health
and
safety
about
pedestrian
safety
and
the
safety
of
the
vendors,
because
we
are
a
night
sky
community
and
we
have
very
dark
streets.
So
unless
we're
considering
the
impact
in
the
lighting
that
might
be
needed
to
be
seen
for
both,
you
know,
kids
and
people
who
are
using
the
the
street
vending
I
think
that's
important
the
park,
so
we
Exempted
Parks
under
two
acres.
That's
just
our
downtown
park
right.
Z
Z
Q
I
really
like
the
idea
of
a
sidewalk
vending
Zone
as
a
way
to
to
work
on
this
and
to
allow
incentives
and
to
get
how
this
is
working
and
I
think
the
downtown
park
personally
is
potentially
a
good
location
to
consider,
at
least
because
we
have
a
lot
of
unused
space
like
on
your
block,
G
and
some
of
those
walkways
and
the
vacated
streets
right.
There
might
be
opportunity
there,
so
personally,
I
wouldn't
like
to
exempt
those
smaller
Parks
or
at
least
do
a
sidewalk
vending
Zone.
Q
Z
Will
put
a
foot
measurement
on
that
and
per
the
direction
of
council?
If
you
feel
that
50
feet
is
appropriate,
we'll
go
ahead
and
do
that
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
clarify
the
500
feet
is
only
for
food
trucks.
We
don't
have
that
language
in
the
sidewalk
vending
ordinance
the
500
feet
from
schools.
Q
Q
Q
Z
Certainly
with
Village
Fest
and
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong
I
believe
we
do
have
a
fee
that
is
paid
by
the
vendors
which
helps
to
recoup
the
costs
in
terms
of
the
electricity
that
is
used,
and
so
we
have
the
issue
of
the
cost
of
that
and
who
bears
that
cost.
Secondly,
in
terms
of
hookups
with
electrical
cords,
say,
for
example,
in
the
places
where
those
are
accessible
off
of
street
light,
poles
running
the
cord
becomes
a
trip
Hazard
across
the
public
sidewalk,
that's
a
concern.
Z
Q
Thank
you
that's
helpful
to
understand.
Let
me
just
review
my
notes
and
see
if
I
have
any
other
questions,
one
that
mayor
Pro
tem
raised
about
the
county.
So
typically
the
county
is
the
one
regulating
Public
Health
for
restaurants
and
those
types
of
businesses.
So
we
see
they
rate
businesses
and
they
have
a
whole
Department
of
Public
Health.
So
do
we
know
where
the
county
is
currently
on
creating
a
program
for
this
and
their
regulation
of
these
businesses.
Z
Z
Q
And
so
that's
my
question
is,
and
is
any
of
this
that
is
in
our
ordinance
or
our
permitting
process.
Is
it
duplicative?
Are
we
requiring
permits
that
the
county
is
going
to
require
permits
for?
Are
we
enforcing
that
the
County
Health
Department
really
should
be
enforcing?
That's
not
our
up
our
alley
in
terms
of
expertise,
right,
correct.
Z
No,
we
don't
want
to
be
duplicative
and
we
don't
want
to
do
the
job
of
the
county
either
that
we
will
defer
to
the
county
in
terms
of
issues
of
food
safety,
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
back
up
and
say,
and
now
I
lost
my
train
of
thought
on
that.
Oh,
if
we
adopt
a
separate
standard,
that's
different
than
the
county
relative
to
food
safety,
they
won't
enforce
it,
they
will
only
enforce
their
own
standards,
and
so,
if
we
do
adopt
a
more
stringent
standard,
it
would
then
be
up
to
us.
Z
Q
Z
I
think
they
should
have
that
available
quite
shortly,
as
I
had
indicated
in
the
month
of
April,
and
so
that
will
help
to
inform
some
of
our
decisions
that
we
make
again,
knowing
that
we're
not
going
to
get
through
this
discussion
this
evening,
we
do
have
some
time
to
dovetail
our
process
with
the
counties.
Thank.
Q
You
and
then
one
one
question
we
got
asked
is
the
inches
for
the
Ada
and
what's
required
and
I
know,
state
law
also
says
that
we're
required
to
follow
the
Ada.
So
could
you
just
speak
to
that
or
I
also
ask
the
City
attorney.
You
know
you
add
72
inches
and
then
this
is
48
inches
and
then
there's
public
comment
that
it
should
be
36
inches.
Certainly.
Z
And
I'll
apologize
to
Mr
Espinosa.
We
may
have
a
difference
of
opinion
on
the
distance.
The
required
width
for
Ada
is
48
inches.
It
does
allow
an
exception
where
there
are
vertical
obstructions
in
the
public
right-of-way
that
it
can
be
less
and
those
vertical
obstructions
would
typically
be
light,
poles
or
Street
trees,
or
things
of
that
nature
and
again
I
think
we
might
have
a
difference
of
opinion
there,
but
that's
the
direction
that
we've
had
from
our
building
and
safety
director,
as
well
as
from
our
attorney.
Thank.
Q
Z
AB
AB
AB
A
Z
There
is
some
question
whether
or
not
they
are
exclusive
agreements.
They
are
for
limited
terms
and
only
during
certain
events,
and
so
in
terms
of
our
application
of
this
ordinance.
What
we
might
do
and
I
think
there
might
be
flexibility
in
terms
of
the
agreements
that
we
have
is
that
when
those
concessionaires
are
not
open
and
operating
that
the
park
would
be
available
for.
A
Z
A
You
I
appreciate
that
yeah
I'm
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
vendors
at
both,
but
at
least
for
the
stadium
right,
it's
contained
within
the
stadium
in
you
go
inside
to
watch
the
game.
So
if
there
was
somebody
at
Sunrise,
Park
Way
on
the
other
side,
where
the
playground
is
to
me
that
doesn't
seem
like
a
conflict,
because
the
people
who
are
playing
on
the
playground
are
not
going
to
the
Ball
Game.
A
There's
a
separation
there,
the
same
thing
for
demuth
Park,
the
the
location
of
where
the
concessions
is
located
for
the
ball
games
is
real.
It's
like
on
one
side
of
the
park
and
in
the
very
other
side,
there's
a
whole
side.
I
mean
Park
is
our
biggest
our
biggest
park,
so
I
I
don't
feel
like
these
are
issues,
and
so
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
see
that
we
don't
unduly
restrict
things
there,
even
if
there
is
an
event
going
on
instead
of
just
say,
hey
within
a
certain
distance.
A
We're
not
competing
because
I
do
understand
that
at
the
demuth
you
know
we
I
would
go
to
watch
her
brother
play
baseball,
and
so
you
there
is
usually
hot
dogs.
Things
like
that
which
are
similar
items
that
the
food
vendors
could
be
selling
so
I
do
do
want
to
be
cognizant
of
that.
But
if
it's
in
separate
space
I
think
it's
fine
in
general
I
want
this
to
be
a
positive
thing
for
our
community
and
I
and
I.
A
We
we
have
seen
that
I
have
seen
that
as
well
and-
and
we
can't
have
that-
continue
because
it
is
a
hazard
and
so,
but
instead
of
I'm
being
overly
punitive.
I
want
to
be
able
to
do
some
Outreach
to
the
folks
who
are
who
are
vending
and
I,
make
sure
that
we
are
explaining
to
them
what
the
the
rules
are
and
not
just
finding
them
too
quickly,
because
I
think
again.
People
are
confused
on
all
levels
on
what
they're
allowed
to
do
so.
A
I
think
I'm
sure
there
are
vendors
who
think
that
they're
perfectly
within
their
rights,
but
they
just
don't
realize
that
there
are
other
things
like
Ada
or
something
else
that
might
be.
They
might
be
in
violation
of
I'm,
supportive
of
the
sunrise
to
sunset
in
residential
neighborhoods
and
open
until
3
A.M
in
commercial
I,
agree,
I,
think
when
going
to
Los,
Angeles
or
other
big
hubs
for
for
gosh.
A
Our
restaurants,
we
don't
have
restaurants
other
than
I,
think
some
other
than
McDonald's
and
Del
Taco
that
are
open,
24
hours
or
past
midnight
and
I
would
just
ask
that
we
make
sure
that
we're
using
plain
language
in
our
in
any
ordinance
that
does
come
forward.
I
think
that
often
causes
some
confusion
and
even
minor
things
like
64
square
feet
for
the
tent.
Instead
of
saying
it's
eight
by
eight
I
think
little
things
can
cause
some
people
to
be
confused
about.
A
A
I
understand
your
desire
to
have
a
set
number
to
make
it
easier
for
enforcement,
and
that
and
that
I
appreciate,
because
I
think
that
when
you
just
say
in
the
surrounding
vicinity,
it's
so
subjective
that,
then
you
have
issues
with
potential
harassment
or
potential
conflict
right
that
we
don't.
We
don't
want
in
our
in
our
city.
A
Z
A
So
I
mean
they've.
Some
of
these
have
been
operating
for
a
while,
so
it's
possible
that
the
landowner
either
doesn't
know
or
does
it
isn't
bothered
by
it?
But
again,
this
is
to
me
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
engage
people
and
being
and
being
compliant
and
not
just
simply
finding
or
shutting
people
down.
A
I
would
really
like
to
see
us
assisting
in
this.
In
any
way,
we
can
I
understand
that
Revolution
carts
is
working
on
different
carts
that
people
can
purchase
that
are
that
work
for
these
ordinances,
so
that
people
would
actually
know
that
they're
in
compliance
with
state
law
and
that
they
had
their
card,
and
things
like
that,
so
I
think
being
able
to
point.
A
So
we
we
have
kind
of,
we
have
sidewalk
vendors
that
fall
under
that
state
law,
and
then
we
have
some
other
businesses
that
are
actually
outside
of
that
that
realm,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
those
folks
understand
that
they
aren't
underneath
this
and
how
they
can
become
underneath
the
state
law
and
eventually
enter
our
ordinance
and
the
health
and
safety
standards
that
are
being
recommended.
All
of
that
makes
sense
and
I
do
agree
with
mayor
Pro,
tem
and
and
that
we
need
a
business
liaison
or
somebody
that's
assisting
and
I
do
again.
A
I
want
to
just
say
that
the
pamphlet
that
you're
talking
about
to
very
clearly
distinguish,
what's
needed
and
what's
required.
I
think
is,
is
really
important
because
it
is
confusing
just
reading
the
staff
report
and
seeing
this
license,
and
this
other
license
it's
confusing,
because
I
don't
know
where
to
get
any
of
those
licenses
or
some
of
those
from
the
city
can
I
get
all
of
them
at
the
city,
yeah
I
think
there's
just
so
many
and
we
want
to
again.
A
A
The
most
I
think
they
look
classic
sidewalk
vendors
ice
cream
man
pushing
his
cart
throughout
neighborhoods
or
in
parks
and
I.
Think
if
the
ice
cream
man
suddenly
disappeared
from
our
Parks
I
think
we'd
have
a
lot
of
parents
who
wouldn't
be
just
outraged
by
that
right,
because
these
are
these
are
businesses
that
we've
come
to
rely
on
and
really
love
and
are
part
of
our
our
culture
and
our
and
our
community.
A
S
A
AC
Z
Z
Z
S
Yeah
excellent,
thank
you.
You
know
I
cute,
shout
outs
to
to
council
for
our
support
of
the
street
vendors
and
sidewalk
ven,
our
sidewalk
vendors,
the
roaming
vendors
I
think
it
it
goes.
We
certainly
want
to
support
and
show
any
kind
of
open
door
that
we
can
for
micro,
business
opportunities
and
our
hard-working
individuals
that
that
are
are
trying
to
to
make
ends
meet
in
their
entrepreneurial
skills.
S
Allow
them
to
go
out
and
set
up.
One
of
these
vending
stands
but
I.
We
got
to
keep
in
mind.
This
isn't
just
food,
so
a
sidewalk
vendor
could
be
selling
merchandise
and
that
merchandise
right
now
is
not
defined.
So
I'm
I'm
I
think
we
should
Define
merchandise
in
unless
they're
in
the
law.
People
selling
counterfeit
goods
are
already
prevented
from
selling
counterfeit
Goods.
S
E
S
S
You
know
what
what
is
the
merchandise
that
we're
going
to
allow
we're
spending
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
food,
but
we're
not
focusing
on
that.
Other
single
word
that
is
in
here
about
merchandise,
so
I
think
we
need
a
little
definition
there
on
merchandise,
I
want
to
and
public
comment.
There
was
a
couple
statements
that
I
I
would
just
want
to
point
out
because
they
they're
not
accurate.
S
S
There,
this
draft
ordinance
is
not
citing
unsavory
characters
that
would
be
selling
near
schools,
and
that
was
the
reason
for
prohibition
of
500
feet
that
could
have
been
something
old,
but
today
it
is
not
in
this
ordinance
and-
and
we
do
not
require
the
Live
Scan
Live
Scan
is
not
part
of
the
draft
proposal
that
we've
got
before
us
today.
So
I
think
those
are
two
important.
A
S
Of
so
here
it
says,
vicinity
means
being
near
and
not
remote,
but
does
not
have
to
be
adjacent.
It
does
not
have
to
include
sites
that
are
miles
apart,
but
it
may
include
sites
that
are
adjacent
to
each
other
across
the
street,
from
each
other
or
thousands
of
feet
away
from
each
other,
but
in
the
same
general
area
or
proximity
now,
and
that
was
my
understanding
that
I
when
I'm
looking
at
vicinity,
specifically
talking
about
the
distance
from
permitted
events
having
gotten
comment
from
a
number
of
our
event.
S
With
regard
to
the
event
spaces,
something
that
I'm
concerned
about
I
mentioned
the
we
we
talk
about,
the
the
vendor
is
going
to
have
a
decal
but
and
I've
since
learned
that
that
decal
is
something
that
is
thought
to
be
issued
by
the
health
department.
But
I
would
like
I
think
that
needs
to
be.
We
need
to
add
that
definition,
so
the
folks
understand
that
the
decal
is
coming
from
the
health
department
or
or
whatever
that
instrument
is,
is
coming
from
the
health
department
and
both
for
the
roaming
vendor.
S
How
is
the
roaming
vendor
identified
that
they
have
the
proper
Health
permit?
You
know
I
I,
think
if
we're.
If
the
street
vendor
the
the
sidewalk
vendor
is
going
to
have
identification,
how
does
that
roaming
vendor
tell
the
consumer
that
their
the
health
department
has
approved
what
they're
doing
they've
gotten
their
food
card?
They've
done
everything
they're
supposed
to
do
so.
That's
not
clearly
identified
here
and
I
think
we
need
to
identify
that
and
the
other
one
flag,
I'm.
S
Sorry,
if
you
you
said
it
in
your
review,
we
don't
have
mention
of
Food
Service,
wear
disposable
and
combustible
service
items,
recyclable
containers,
I
I,
think
we
need
to
add
that
In
Here
Also
as
a
reminder
that
this
is
an
ordinance
within
the
city.
So
folks
that
are
doing
sidewalk
sales
understand
that
that
this
is
something
that
the
city
finds
very
valuable
and
where
we
want
to
focus
on
sustainability.
S
S
You
know,
there's
there's
only
a
handful,
maybe
a
10
or
12,
that
don't
have
food
food
service,
so
I.
The
timing
is
one
that
I
I
think
we
need
to
continue
to
look
at
identifying
when
something
is
is
abandoned.
So
when
is
it
considered,
a
location
is
impact.
The
is
an
abandoned
station
so
that
unattended
equipment.
S
S
So
you
know
if
we
have
a
a
sidewalk
vendor,
they
don't
know
that
they
can
go
to
be
20
feet
wide
or
they
can.
You
know,
use
a
pop-up,
tent,
I
I
think
we
need
to
be
a
little
more
explicit
in
our
definition,
or
maybe
this
is
where
the
diagrams
or
the
pictures
may
come
in.
That
shows
somebody
here's
the
space
that
you
is
is
every
vendor
is
allowed
to
use.
This
is
what
it
looks
like.
So
they
get
to
see
the
table
right
next
to
the
pop-up
tent.
S
So
we
want
them
to
have
a
trash
receptacle
and-
and
we
want
them
to
be
good
neighbors
and
when
they're
done
selling
that
that
they
look
around
and
they
they
clean
up
any
trash
that
may
be
around
them.
We
do
mention
that
in
the
food
truck
ordinance,
but
we're
not
mentioning
it
in
the
street,
vendor
ordinance,
so
I
think
adding
that
there
just
helps
people
understand
what
the
expectation
is
and
that's
not
an
undue
burden
that
we're
placing
on
them.
S
I
think
the
fine
structure,
I
I,
certainly
would
support
council's
Direction
on.
If
there's
support
to
adjust
the
fines.
Do
we
don't
have
to
follow
the
state
guideline
on
these
maximums?
So
is
you
know
to
to
be
more
accessible
for
more
vendors
and
to
not
put
a
strain
on
on
folks
I?
Don't
see
a
reason
why
we
can't
have
lower
fines
than
what
the
state
is
is
allowing
us
to
have
there
and
I
think.
A
S
A
I
appreciate
that
yeah,
just
and
I
just
want
to
clarify
one
thing
as
a
person
who
does
not
go
to
sleep
early
and
likes
to
go
out,
you
can't
find
food
other
than
Del
Taco
or
McDonald's
after
11
pm.
Sometimes
black
plug
stays
open
past
up
until
midnight,
but
they're
for
their
kitchen.
Sometimes,
but
not
always.
Z
Z
Z
P
I
would
encourage
my
fellow
council
members
and
other
people
to
look
at
the
LA,
even
though
I
know
there's
things
that
are
there's
being
sued
for,
but
on
their
website
they
actually
present
it
very
positively
and
they
have
really
nice
brochures
on
there.
They
actually
put
them
in
like
15
languages,
and
they
are
very
easy
to
read
and
understand
so
I
would
just
encourage
them
to
look
at
to
comment.
P
They
know
where
you
are,
and
if
you
don't
pay
your
tax,
they
they
do,
send
you
all
kinds
of
notices,
so
that
seems
a
way
to
make
sure
that
they're
current
and
not
not
an
issue.
I
also
do
agree
with
lowering
the
fines,
especially
as
we
start
this
process
to
make
sure
they
do
it.
We
work
with
them,
and
this
is
something
that
we
may
have
to
analyze
in
a
couple
years.
P
I
share
a
council
member
to
Hearts
concern
when
we
have
large
events
that
50
feet
might
be
too
close.
So
I
just
want
to
mention
that
and
and
I
very
much
agree
with
councilmember
holstead
on
having
parks
for
either
Street
vending
or
or
food
trucks,
or
places
where
there
is
not
a
lot
of
other
food
and
and
actually
working
on
ways
to
promote
these
businesses
in
a
way
that
actually
helps
you
know,
helps
the
residents
and
helps
you
know
show
what
they
can
do
and
also
helps.
P
Obviously,
the
the
vendors
and
the
merchants
get
into
that
and
we've
seen
and
not
aggravate.
You
know
anybody
I
think,
there's
a
way
to
make
it
very
positive
and
helpful,
and
we've
actually
seen
in
our
city
a
few
really
successful
businesses
start
out
as
mobile.
You
know
we
have
Gambino's
Creperie
and
Heyday
burger
and
townie
Bagel
started
in
the
farmers
market,
and
so
there
is
real
potential
here
and
you
know
it's
it's
it's
we
could
have
more
of
that.
So
those
are
my
last
comments.
Thank
you.
A
A
Obviously,
so
I
would
ask
staff
when
we
are
bringing
this
forward.
If
there
are
kind
of
points
of
disagreement
that
we're
seeing
if
that
can
somehow
be
still,
you
know
delineated
in
the
staff
report.
I
think
it
would
just
be
helpful
to
understand
where
there's
points
of
contention.
So
then
maybe
we
can
focus
in
on
those
at
a
later
date
to
be
able
to
really
know
where
we're,
where
we're
aligned
and
where
we're
not
councilmember
holstich.
Q
Q
I
also
agree
with
the
sunrise
sunset,
but
30
minutes,
maybe
before
and
after
we
have
such
a
strange
sunrise
sunset
here
because
of
the
mountain,
and
it's
often
light
for
extended
periods
of
time
after
you
might
so.
People
smarter
than
me
can
do
that.
But
I
agree
with
that.
I
also
I
heard
three
other
votes
for
reducing
the
fines
and
lowering
the
fine.
So
I
would
like
to
see
that
too
I'm
interested
in
the
large
events
you
know
and
how
that
works
in
practice.
Just
more
information
I,
don't
know.
Q
If
I
have
enough
information
here,
I
just
went
to
Disneyland
I
left
Disneyland.
There
were
like
hot
dogs
and
like
really
good
food,
you
could
buy
that
wears,
not
twenty
dollars
in
crappy,
Disneyland
food,
so
I
know
this
already
happens
at
Dodger
Stadium
I
mean
this
has
been
happening
for
large
events
or
decades
and
decades
like
there's
already
a
model.
Q
We
don't
have
to
recreate
it,
but
I
would
like
more
information
on
that,
but
before
I
support,
but
I
do
think
like
a
50
foot
is
pretty
reasonable
for
most
things,
because
that's
immediate
vicinity
and
that's
what
the
state
law
says
and
I
think
if
we
go
beyond
I
mean
state
law
requires
that
we
can't
go
beyond
that
right,
immediate
vicinity.
We
can't
go
beyond
to.
P
Q
Right
so
our
hands
are
sort
of
tied
on
that
issue
and
then
I
heard
at
least
three
people
Express
for
allowing
sidewalk
exploring
to
allow
sidewalk
vending
zones
where
we
might
have
areas
where
we
could
enable
and
support,
and
you
know
Palm
Springs-
we
always
like
to
get
it
right.
We
always
like
to
do
our
own
thing.
Q
A
I
think
I
think
that
is
correct.
While
you
do
that
councilmember
hostage.
So
we
do
have
the
food
truck
item
before
us
as
well.
I
have
heard
from
a
couple
people
already
that
maybe
they're
not
quite
ready
for
full
discussion
on
that
item,
but
does
anyone
have
any
general
comments
that
they
would
like
to
give
to
staff
to
inform
for
the
next
time?
This
item
may
or
may
not
come
before
us
and
if
you
don't
want
it
to
come
back
to
us,
please
say
that
as
well.
AA
P
P
Correct,
okay,
all
right!
So
so
then
I
think
this
does
need
a
you
know,
a
bigger
discussion,
because
there
may
be
certain
areas
like
you
know:
parks
where
it
does
make
sense,
but
I
think
that
for
something
like
this,
then
you
we
really
have
to
engage
the
business.
The
restaurant
communities,
especially
I,
guess,
yes,
there
are
I
I,
guess
we're
not
talking
merchandise,
trucks,
so
food
trucks
I
do
think
we
have
to.
You
know,
hear
from
them,
because
those
are
the
you
know
they
are
an
important
part
of
our
our
economy
and
and
they're.
P
Often
residents
who
live
here
and
pay.
You
know,
hire
people
and
follow
the
guidelines
and
food
trucks
are
not
necessarily,
although
I
do
love
food
trucks,
just
I
think
we
want
to
protect
our
businesses,
so
I
think
in
this
case
we
might
want
to
have
another
discussion
if
we
need
to
change
the
current
ordinance
and
I'm,
not
even
sure
we
do.
F
All
right
all
right,
thank
you.
I
support,
mayor
Pro,
tem
Bernstein's
comments
that
when
it
comes
to
food
trucks,
we
are
not
obligated
by
state
law
that
gives
us
greater
discretion
and
I
would
very
much
want
to
engage
our
restaurant
community.
That
is
such
a
fundamental,
important
part
of
Palm
Springs
and
the
heritage
of
our
community
as
regards
Street
vending
I
can
count
and
I
can
see
where
we're
going.
I'm
not
going
to
be
in
the
majority
on
this
issue.
A
A
A
Haven't
either
interesting,
no
I
mean
and
things
change.
Obviously
things
change
I
went
to
school
very
long
time
ago,
but
but
I
am
interested
in
kind
of
how
we
can
expand
the
reach
of
food
trucks,
but
also
I,
think
get
away
from
this.
Palm
Springs
doesn't
support
food
truck's
attitude,
because
when
you
look
at
the
current
ordinance
on
the
books,
there's
actually
lots
of
places
that
food
trucks
can
go
in
Palm
Springs,
but
we
just
never
see
them
and
I.
Think
it's
partly
because
we
are
there.
A
There
was
this
there's
this
impression
that
we
don't
allow
them
just
in
general,
but
really
it's
that
we
don't
allow
them
in
our
downtown.
So
I
just
would
like
to
be
able
to
dispel
that,
because
it's
it's
possible
that
we
don't
really
need
too
many
changes
to
our
food
truck
ordinance
that
we
really
just
need
to
say:
hey
you're,
welcome
in
these
areas
and
we
encourage
and
or
even
encourage
it
a
little
bit
one
of
the
things
that
you
know.
We
talked
about
once
I.
A
So
it's
it's
not
just
these
Standalone
businesses
that
could
be
existing
businesses
in
our
city,
who
create
this
mobile
option
as
well,
but
there
are
and
I
would
love
to
just
see.
Food
trucks
come
to
City
Hall
in
general,
for
our
employees,
who
are
working
really
hard
and
have
trouble
running
out
to
get
food,
especially
during
season.
A
S
I
yeah
I
think
the
the
food
vending
I'm
very
concerned
that
does
it
need
to
be
changed
from
where
it
is
today.
So
I
I
certainly
would
like
to
proceed
cautiously
on
on
that
people
can
sell
in
Palm
Springs,
so
it
may
be
more
of
a
messaging
to
let
people
know
that
that
they
can,
and
you
know,
we've
got
a
lot.
There's
a
lot
of
entrepreneurs
out
there
that
if
they
know
a
buck
is
to
be
made,
they
would
be
outside
City
Hall
capturing.
S
Q
Thank
you,
so
I
can
also
count
and
I
hear
that
there
aren't
three
for
the
ex,
nor
you
know,
I,
think
standardizing
the
food
truck
ordinance
to
be
similar
to
Street
vending
and
where
other
food
is
allowed.
It's
no
secret
that
I've
been
supporting
and
asking
for
the
city
to
stop
Banning
food
trucks
since
I
was
elected
in
2017..
Q
It's
just
an
important
thing
for
our
brand
and
I
understand
that
our
restaurants
are
concerned
about
losing
business,
but
again
a
rising
tide,
lifts
all
boats
and
it's
different
customers
who
are
going
to
food
trucks
and
are
sitting
down
for
a
sit-down
restaurant
I
personally
joined
Twitter
in
2011
to
follow
food
trucks
around
New,
York
City.
When
I
lived
there
in
law
school
and
it's
it's
an
important.
It's
a
cultural
part
and
people
have
them
for
a
rest
for
their
parties
at
homes
and
I,
always
just
think
about.
Q
I
met
a
entrepreneur,
a
young
woman
in
her
late
20s,
who
wanted
to
start
up
a
coffee
business
is
working
at
Earnest.
She
had
her
own
idea
for
her
business
and
she
wanted
to
do
a
food
truck
a
mobile
coffee
shop,
and
she
told
me
I,
can't
start
my
business
in
Palm
Springs,
because
Palm
Springs
bans,
food
trucks
and
I
can't
do
it
and
she
actually
went
to
the
high
desert
and
did
it
there.
There's
other
places
like
Joshua
Tree
I'm
going
to
mess
up
their
name.
Q
Q
Palm
Springs
keep
the
limits
that
we
have
I
thought
that
what
the
staff
brought
forward
was
really
reasonable,
just
to
standardize
them,
because
these
are
up-and-coming
businesses
that
then
become
brick
and
mortar
and
they're
local
people
I
mean
this
understanding
that
people
are
not
local
is
just
think
of
all
the
opportunity
in
our
own
local
residents
or
missing
out
on
who
can't
start
these
businesses,
because
of
government
regulation
I.
Think
it's
really
sad
about
the
opportunity.
That's
lost
so
you
know
I
would
like
to.
We
have
worked
with
businesses.
Q
I
did
talk
to
Jerry
Keller,
who
called
me
and
Dean
Levine
and
other
restaurateurs
about
food
trucks.
It
sounded
like
to
me
most
of
the
restaurants,
didn't
support
an
actual
ban
or
actually
did
support
expansion
to
other
areas
of
the
city
to
allow,
for
you
know,
as
long
as
they're
not
in
front
of
restaurants,
but
to
allow
for
food
truck
events
to
allow
for
them
in
their
parks
to
allow
for
them
on
roads
where
there
aren't
restaurants
or
other
parts
of
town.
I
heard
that
support
from
restaurateurs.
AC
P
My
conversation,
it's
they
they
it's,
they
actually
seemed
all
the
fun
with
having
them
in
Parks
or
around
office,
Parks
particular,
and
that's
probably
where
where
a
food
truck
would
really
want
to
be
yeah,
and
if
we
have
an
event
and
that
I
mean
I,
don't
know
I
know,
there's
a
couple
that
have
concessions
but
I
I,
think
that
is
fine
and
you
know
an
example.
You
gave
was
somebody
starting
a
coffee
who
worked
at
Ernest?
P
No,
they
should
not
be.
You
know
right
behind
Earnest
selling
coffee,
and
can
you
know
taking
the
request?
That
is
not
great
for
us
for
our
city,
but
in
Ruth
Hardy
park
or
demuth.
If
we
could
have
more
or
we
could
have
them
around
City
Hall,
I
I,
my
office
is
on
you
know
in
an
office
Park,
and
you
know
feral
and
Tamarisk,
and
there
is
nothing
to
eat
near
there.
AA
P
F
Again,
I
would
hope
that
we
are
engaging
with
our
restaurant
and
business
Community
when
it
comes
to
food
trucks.
Unfortunately,
when
it
comes
to
sidewalk
vending,
the
state
of
California
gave
us
no
option
to
engage
with
our
local
business.
Community
I
would
also
hope
that
we
do
not
have
two
sets
of
rules,
one
for
food
trucks
that
is
diminished
and
smaller
than
the
requirements
that
we
impose.
Upon,
Our,
brick
and
mortar
restaurants.
A
AA
P
Would
suggest
that
it?
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
here
today
and
I.
Think
emotion
would
be
almost
impossible,
with
50
different
caveats
to
come
back
with
something
else,
and
let
us
get
some
more
review
in
I
mean
I.
Think
this
this
I
can
see
this
version
compared
to
the
last
one
came
in
a
very
long
way,
and
you
know
we
and
I.
This
is
what
I
do
agree
with
with
councilmember
Middleton
on
this.
We
don't
want
to
mess
this
up
and
then
regret
it.
P
Q
Council
member
Holsted,
thank
you,
madam
mayor.
That's
why
I
was
trying
to
summarize,
because
obviously
we
are
keptic
of
Staff
Direction
and
each
of
us
went
and
gave
individual
points
or
questions,
but
we
didn't
summarize
what
a
majority
might
support.
So
I
tried
to
do
that
with
some
of
the
things.
That's
obviously
not
all
the
items
the
staff
feel
like
they
have
what
they
need
from
us,
or
should
we
do
that
more
thoroughly?.
Z
I
think
we
have
enough,
there's
still
going
to
be
a
couple
of
points,
I
think
where
we'll
be
uncertain,
but
I
think
we
have
enough
to
bring
you
back
a
revised
version
based
on
the
comments
that
you've
given
here
this
evening.
We
may
also
ask
for
individual
input
of
council
members
where
some
things
might
have
been
unclear,
and
so
that
way
we
can
come
better
prepared.
The
next
time
we
come
forward.
Q
For
hostage
sorry,
I
am
going
to
use
a
personal
privilege
as
a
mother
right
now
to
brag
about
one
of
our
residents,
because
we
have
Juan
Espinoza
in
the
room
who
went
to
Palm
Springs
schools
and
is
from
Palm
Springs
and
was
raised
here
and
is
currently
an
equal
justice.
Fellow
with
public
counsel
and
many
people
might
not
know,
but
equal
justice
works
is
the
very,
very
top
legal
Fellowship
that
you
can
get
in
the
country.
He
just
graduated
Harvard,
Law
School.
Also
the
top
Law
School
in
the
country.
Q
I
went
to
Stanford
number
three.
He
went
to
number
two
and
I
also
applied
for
an
equal
justice
fellowship
and
did
not
get
it
so
from
someone
who
applied
for
that
and
knows
how
hard
it
is.
I
just
really
want
to
applaud
him,
amazing
that
we
have
the
kind
of
talent
that
we
have
in
this
city
I'm
doing
this
work.
Q
So
thank
you
to
you
and
public
counsel
for
working
with
us
on
this
issue
and
thank
you
to
the
in
Lynn
Coalition
for
immigrant
Justice
who's
also
been
doing
really
hard
work
working
with
Street
vendors
directly.
So
thank
you
to
the
non-profits
who
are
here
volunteering,
their
time
who
don't
get
paid
to
be
here
who
are
advocating
for
good
public
policy.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Madamir.
A
Thank
you
all
right.
Well,
thank
you
to
everyone
involved
in
this.
This
I
knew
this
would
be
our
longest
item
so
with
that
we
are
going
to
head
right
into
our
public
comment.
So
this
time
is
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
City
Council
on
non-agenda
items.
These
are
gender
items
of
General
interests
that
are
within
the
subject
or
subject
matter
jurisdiction
of
the
city
and
while
the
city
council
values
your
opinions
and
your
comments,
pursuant
to
the
brown
act,
we
will
not
be
able
to
take
any
action
on
those
items.
AD
Michael
Joseph
Pitkin,
Chief
Joseph,
said
I
will
fight
no
more
forever.
This
was
not
a
statement
of
surrender.
Rather,
he
led
the
nez-pierce
nation
to
survive
and
see
the
future
today
bound
equals.
Unbound
I
ask
for
my
survival
as
an
advocating
gay
male
for
the
value
of
all
masculinity
within
the
matriarchy.
There
is
a
sacred
Bond
and
necessary
Brotherhood
that
males
contribute
between
ourselves
into
the
world.
The
matriarchy
can't
expect
others
to
be
diverse
unless
the
matriarchy
itself
is
equitably.
AD
Fair,
send
a
message
to
the
religions
of
the
patriarchy
that
caringly
matriarchy
is
diverse
and
equally
accepting
of
males
I
ask
for
my
survival
as
an
advocating
two-spirit
gay
male
and
for
the
value
of
all
femininity
within
the
patriarchy
patriarchy
show
that
it
accepts
The
Challenge
and
is
equally
accepting
of
females.
There
is
a
sacred
Bond
and
necessary
Sisterhood
that
females
contribute
between
ourselves
and
to
the
world.
AD
No
indentured
servitude,
no
debtors,
no
human
trafficking,
no
torture,
no
slavery,
God
does
not
special
rights
or
give
special
rights
of
the
earth
to
any
one
people
we
are
all
descendants
of
the
indigenous
wherever
you
are
God
and
of
all
is
everywhere.
God
said
I
am
God,
does
not
care
who
you
are
for
God
said
who
Am
hell,
matriarchy
hell
patriarchy
hell,
the
Islamic
State
of
Palestine
held
the
Jewish
state
of
Israel,
hell
theostic
Satanist,
so
it
is
publicly
written.
So
it
is
sealed
by
the
blood
of
the
heart.
AE
Good
evening
Council,
my
name
is
Adrian
alcantar
I'm,
a
business
owner
at
1717,
East
Vista
Chino
Road
residing
in
District
Two.
Tonight.
I
am
here
to
speak
on
an
incident
that
occurred
earlier
this
evening
at
6
21,
where
I
had
two
vagrants
try
to
gain
access
into
my
business
with
an
employee
locked
inside
and
took
the
police
department
one
hour
and
two
minutes
to
respond
finalizing
the
call
at
7
23..
AE
They
were
not
there.
When
the
employee
exited
the
building.
Tonight
we
had
to
have
somebody
privately
go
to
the
building
and
escort
this
person
out.
We
talked
about
safety
being
our
number
one
priority
with
businesses
tonight
and
making
business
as
a
priority.
Obviously,
in
this
case
it
was
not
the
911.
AE
AE
I've
been
over
47
calls
in
the
last
three
months
to
my
business
in
regards
to
vagrancy
and
aggressive
behavior
with
vagrants
I
challenge
this
diocese
to
really
take
a
look
at
operation,
Relentless
sign
and
how
it
is
moving
these
vagrants
from
certain
areas
of
towns
to
others.
As
we
are
flooding
the
vagrants
into
not
only
shopping
centers,
where
our
residents,
you
know,
go
grocery
shopping,
but
also
into
their
homes
and
I,
would
challenge
Chief
Mills
to
do
a
better
job.
AF
Good
evening
city
council,
my
name
is
Kendall
K
I
was
the
employee
that
was
in
that
business
tonight,
I
feared
that
the
worst
was
going
to
happen.
I
have
never
been
so
discouraged
and
disappointed
by
the
Palm
Springs
Police
Department
in
the
19
years
that
I've
lived
here
until
tonight
when
I
felt
oh,
my
God.
What
could
possibly
happen
to
me?
AF
AF
AF
AF
AC
AC
The
only
reason
this
reservation
system
was
put
in
place
was
during
covid
to
allow
people
to
swim
and
now
that
we
are
truly
out
of
covet.
For
the
most
part,
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
has
opted
to
keep
it
in
place.
Yvonne
wise
posted
a
survey
on
the
city's
website
in
December
asking
residents
if
they
still
wanted
to
have
a
reservation
in
place
in
the
morning
and
according
to
the
survey,
the
answer
was
yes
for
the
council.
AC
That
may
not
know
the
requirement
you
have
to
make
the
reservation
the
day
before
you
swim
and
Slots
open
at
5
30
a.m.
If
you
don't
get
on
the
website
by
6,
30
A.M,
the
majority
of
the
slots
are
gone
for
the
next
day.
This
is
a
public
pool,
primarily
funded
by
me
and
the
other
residents
of
Palm
Springs.
The
reservation
system
discriminates
against
people
like
me
who
work
full-time
and
I
cannot
get
on
a
website
every
day.
Just
to
try
to
make
a
reservation
to
swim.
My
days
are
different
every
day.
AC
Sometimes
I
want
to
swim
at
7am.
Sometimes
it's
at
9
A.M.
Sometimes
it's
at
8
A.M,
and
it's
not
fair
to
me
and
a
lot
of
the
other
residents
that
live
here.
There
are
too
many
days
when
I
have
had
a
reservation
and
I
show
up
at
the
pool,
and
there
are
four
to
eight
lanes
that
are.
There
are
no
shows
where
people
don't
even
show
up
when
this
happens.
It
blocks
other
people
from
swimming
and
it
also
reduces
the
amount
of
Revenue
that
the
Swim
Center
is
receiving.
AC
This
pool
is
almost
50
years
old
and
has
never
required
a
reservation
up
until
covid.
No
other
Coachella,
Valley
pool,
including
Palm
Desert,
requires
a
reservation
or
anything
in
LA
county.
It's
time
that
the
pool
this
huge
public
asset
to
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
goes
back
to
the
residents
and
visitors
and
that
no
reservation
is
required
in
the
morning.
This
isn't
a
private
pool
for
certain
people.
AC
A
D
Yes,
Madam
members
of
the
council,
I,
don't
know
if
they
put
this
up
on
the
screen
or
not,
but
we
yeah
there.
We
go
we're.
Looking
at
our
next
March
23rd
regular
agenda,
I
did
want
to
mention
on
April
3rd.
We
are
going
to
be
doing
our
visioning
visioning
session
and
I
have
had
some
comments
that
you
know,
if
possible.
If
we
could
manage
our
agenda
on
March
23rd
a
little
bit
to
not
have
it
so
long
as
we
get
ready
for
this
August
3rd
visiting
session.
D
So
we'll
keep
an
eye
on
that.
Obviously
things
that
have
to
come
before
you
will
be
before
you,
but
we're
trying
to
manage
both
both
meetings
together.
But,
as
you
can
see,
on
the
23rd
at
least
for
now,
we've
got
the
historic
designation
item,
public
hearing
for
1177
East
Mesquite,
and
then
we
have
our
community
development
block,
grant
annual
action
plan
and
budget
public
hearing
that
we
need
to
be
presented
to
you
and
then
it
looks
like
a
business
and
legislative
policy
report
to
you
on
environmentally
preferable
purchasing
guidelines.
AG
A
A
A
D
E
Yes,
I
think
after
the
last
council
meeting
discussion
about
Picasso,
there
was
some
question
by
some
of
the
council
members
as
to
whether
Direction
was
given
our
office
is
interpreting
the
the
council
action.
That
direction
was
given
to
bring
back
an
ordinance
with
a
regulatory
approach,
so
we
plan
on
doing
that.
If
that's
not
the
case,
if
a
majority
of
the
council
can,
let
me
know,
I
can
reagendise
it
and
we
can
kind
of
put
the
brakes
on
that.
E
A
P
AG
Yes,
mayor
members
of
council,
so
the
vacation
rental
item
would
be
in
regard
to
the
council,
had
requested
us
to
gather
information
on
the
single
family
residential
units
within
neighborhoods,
without
apartments
and
condominiums
in
it.
So
we
have
been
working
on
Gathering
that
data,
so
it'd
be
an
update
on
that
those
densities
to
the
percentage
in
a
neighborhood,
as
well
as
exceptions
that
have
been
requested.
We
can
let
you
know
that
the
nature
of
different
exceptions
that
have
been
requested
if
Council
wants
to
make
any
policy
decisions
in
regard
to
those.
P
A
Okay
I
do
have
a
request.
The
Sierra
Club
reached
out
to
me
they
may
have
reached
out
to
other
council
members.
The
the
Sierra
Club
is
working
with
other
stakeholders
on
requesting
an
expansion
of
Joshua
Tree
National
Park.
It's
not
a
huge
expansion
in
comparison
to
the
rest
of
the
park,
but
they
are
working
on
that
and
as
well
as
creating
a
State
Monument
that
would
be
ex
over
in
the
East
Valley
and
they're.
A
P
Actually
came
up
at
the
visit
greater
Palm,
Springs
jpa
meeting
I
think
it
was
last
month
that
the
cities
of
Indio
and
and
desert
hot
springs
wanted
to
have
the
jpa.
Do
a
letter
of
support
and
the
other
cities
had
some
questions
that
they
were
discussing,
but
this
is
going
to
come
back,
I
believe
at
the
next
meeting
on
March
31st.
P
A
Would
work
so
if
our
next,
our
next
council
meeting
is
after
that
date
is
what
you're
saying
or
no
it's
before
that
date,
yep
yeah.
So
so,
if,
if
there's
interest
from
Council
to
see
that
item,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
on
consent,
it
could
be
a
standalone,
but
it
is
just
a
letter
and
it
could
be
pulled
from
consent
calendar
for
further
discussion.
P
I
think
there
is
support
for
I.
It
would
definitely
be
helpful
to
have
okay
to
understand
where
we
are,
because
it
will
you
know,
rather
than
going
to
the
meeting
and
not
having
an
answer.
This
was
a
specific
direction
to
come
back
on
March
31st.
Now
they
may
they
may
not
actually
do
it,
but
that
was
at
the
last
meeting.
Okay.
A
P
A
S
Couple
items
for
the
agenda:
you
know
we
received
public
comment
and
concern
about
four
or
five
Arts
commission
programs
that
I've
been
long
in
getting
approved
from
Council
I'd
like
to
see
those
outstanding
public,
Arts
commission
items
on
March
23.
So
we
can
give
approval
and
let
them
move
forward
on
those
programs.
S
Yeah,
okay
and
then
the
fire
presentation.
You
know,
I
brought
that
up
on
December
15th
and
my
my
intention
was
just
to
give
notice
to
the
community.
It
doesn't
have
to
come
before
Council.
It
can
be
Amy
Blaisdell
item
that
is
posted
on
our
social
media
press
release
just
to
inform
the
community
of
what
what
the
overall
issue
is.
So
I,
don't
necessarily
need
to
see
it
come
back
in
front
of
council,
but
getting
the
information
out
to
the
community
is
what
what
I
was
after.
A
Q
Holstich.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
to
the
public
commenters
who
came
and
spoke
because
of
the
brown
act
were
typically
not
allowed
to
respond
to
you.
Even
though
you
raised
really
important
issues,
but
our
staff
is
able
to
respond
to
you
and
you
know,
they'll
be
around.
You
can
also
contact
City
Hall
to
get
a
direct
answer,
and
our
police
department
and
our
police
chief
have
been
really
responsive
to
requests
for
information
and
all
of
that
so
happy
to
work
with
you
on
that.
Q
I
did
want
to
flag
not
that
they're
of
equal
importance,
because
we
heard
an
incident
tonight,
but
I've
re
I've
also
had
the
concern
about
the
reservation
system
and
us
having
adopted
these
covid
policies
that
we
still
are
allowing
now.
I
also
agree
that
the
that
A
system,
that
requires
reservations,
is
overly
burdensome
for
many
people
who
might
not
have
internet
access.
People
like
me,
who
don't
wake
up
at
5am
and
will
never
ever
sign
up
to
go
to
the
pool
but
might
be
able
to
go
in
person
right.
Here's
a
million
reasons.
Q
Why
so
I
would
love
for
staff
to
consider
I,
know,
city
council?
We
actually
had
litigated
like
some
some
of
those
issues
when
we
did
the
covid
rules.
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
the
community,
so
I'd
hate
to
see
those
that's
probably
can
be
addressed
at
the
staff
level,
but
I
just
wanted
to
lift
that
up
as
something
I'm
concerned
about
too.
AG
D
Yeah,
yes,
councilman,
council
member,
we
did
see.
I
saw
a
number
of
those
emails
myself
today
and
we
spoke
about
getting
our
with
our
Consultants
I
at
Townsend.
I.
Believe,
yes,
who
will
work
with
us
both
at
the
state
and
the
federal
level
on
those
I
saw
it?
I
saw
him
come
through
in
both
locations.
So
we'll
look
at
that
in
conjunction
with
our
legislative
policy.
That's
in
place
or
Capital
Improvement
plan
that
we
have
I
know
we're
looking
at
some
bigger
projects,
some
smaller
projects
we'll
see
where
they
fit
in.
Q
Thank
you,
that'd
be
great,
I
know
some
of
those
are
time
sensitive.
So
if
we
can
bring
this
forward,
I
do
agree
that
the
March
23rd
meeting
is
very
light,
and
so
hopefully,
if
another
item
or
two
will
be
added,
so
we
can
because
the
historic,
designation,
the
cdbg,
doesn't
take
very
long.
We
already
even
stopped
cdbg
once
so.
I
would
love
to
add
some
more
meat
to
that
meeting
and
yeah
I
would
love
to
get
some
requests
in
to
our
elected
representatives,
especially
some
of
these
have
dead
lines.
Q
A
A
You
know
Teresa
stepped
into
this
role
and
handled
it
very
well,
despite
having
no
interest
in
being
the
city
manager
forever
and
I
and
I
think
that's
a
big
deal
right
to
still
be
the
city
manager.
For
you
know
what
was
it
six
months,
yeah
six
whole
months,
so
I
I
know
we're
all
very
excited
to
have
Scott
here,
and
we
just
thank
you
so
much
Teresa
for
for
filling
those
shoes
and
the
interim
and
and
making
sure
that
everything
ran
smoothly.
We
really
appreciate
you.
AG
P
Just
wanted
to
add
two
things:
one
is
that
the
city
announced
our
big
birthday
party
on
April
8th,
so
that
looks
very
exciting
and
also
I
attended
the
Plaza
theater
board
meeting,
and
they
did
recently
announce
another
million
dollar
donation
from
Oakview
group,
a
charitable
donation,
and
so
they
are
hoping
to
raise
their
last
two
two
point
something
Million
by
June
when
they
will
close
for
for
renovation
so
and
they
have
some
exciting
things
planned
for
the
next
few
months
to
let
people
know
how
they
can
participate
and
what's
going
on.
So
thank
you.