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What's
in
the
bag
that
I
brought
you
tonight,
there
we
go
first
and
foremost
is
what
I'm
here
to
talk
about
tonight?
Was
our
our
area
wide
mosquito
control
operations?
So
this
this
yellow
document
that
you
have
in
the
bag
is
what
rental
residents
were
actually
doing.
Our
work
against
the
invasive
mosquito.
E
We
are
a
public
health
agency
and
that's
our
mission
is
protecting
the
health
of
the
residents
here.
In
Palm
Springs
as
well
vally,
and
also
what
we're
asking
for
the
community,
because
this
is
a
really
a
community-wide
problem
and
that
we're
gonna
be
really
focusing
over
the
next
several
years
at
getting
the
assistance
and
the
help
from
our
community
members
to
make
this
as
effective
that
it
can
be
so
invasive
a
species.
So
this
means
this
mosquito
doesn't
belong
here
in
the
Coachella
Valley.
It's
we're
not
unique.
E
This
has
been
happening
all
across
Southern
California
into
the
Central
Valley
of
California
in
Pacific,
but
I'll
now,
but
talk
about
Palm
Springs
itself.
We
detected
this
mosquito
back
in
2016
in
a
small
area
of
about
200
homes.
Since
that
point
in
time
it's
grown
to
include
an
area
that
we
have
detected
this
over
5,000
homes
or
residences.
Why
is
this
important?
Well,
the
threat
to
our
community
into
the
folks
live
in
Palm
Springs
or
visit
Palm
Springs,
it's
a
it's
a
day,
biter
we're
not.
E
We
don't
have
a
mosquito
if
you've
been
around
the
US
or
in
places
where
we
get
eaten
up
when
you
go
camping.
Those
mosquitoes
vary
by
what
they
like
to
bite,
and
this
mosquito
is
a
mammal
biter.
So
it
likes
to
bite
you
likes
to
bite
your
animals
and
it
would
buy
it
during
the
daytime,
and
so
it's
a
very
aggressive
pest.
E
It's
also
a
vector,
so
it
does
transmit
very
horrible
pathogens
to
people
it
does
prefer
to
feed
on
us,
like
I,
said,
and
it's
capable
of
transmitting
chikungunya
dengue,
yellow
fever
and,
most
recently
in
the
in
the
headlines,
ins
been
Zika.
So
what
does
the
district
been
doing?
We've
been
educating,
but
also
going
door-to-door
we've
been
to
over
actually
host
with
over
3,000
residences
over
the
last
year
in
Palm,
Springs
and
doing
education
doing
source
removal.
E
This
mosquito
is
a
specialist
at
small
containers,
so
anything
from
a
bottle
cap
in
somebody's
backyard
as
a
potential
source
for
this
mosquito
to
reproduce.
So
it's
very
hard
to
control
once
it's
in
a
neighborhood,
because
it
could
literally
be
in
everybody's
backyard.
We've
been
doing
education
when
having
events,
educating
our
school
districts
and
how
they
can
look
for
mosquito
sources
around
them
and
we're
really
be
focusing,
like
I,
said,
on
the
communities
and
also
on
our
other
community
stakeholders,
in
particular,
of
with
this
campaign
we've.
E
Why
are
we
doing
this
now
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs?
Last
year
we
did
some
eriell
campaigns
aimed
at
reducing
the
population
and
currently
Palm,
Springs
and
Mecca
are
where
we
have
the
highest
population
of
this
mosquito,
so
in
Mecca
we're
actually
doing
an
aerial
campaign
to
reduce
the
numbers
and
in
Palm
Springs
we're
using
truck-mounted
applications.
This
is
these:
are
the
techniques
that
been
used
successfully
in
other
campaigns,
specifically
back
in
2016,
when
there
was
a
Zika
outbreak
in
Miami?
E
You
may
remember
this
was
one
of
those
strategies
that
deemed
very
effective
in
reducing
the
number
of
mosquitoes
and
stopping
local
transmission,
and
that's
where
we're
at
in
Palm
Springs
these
these
pathogens,
that
this
mosquito
transmits
are
pathogens,
that
people
are
the
reservoir
or
it
can
hold
them
so
people
can
travel
abroad
and
go
to
South.
America
Asia
come
back
with
these
viruses
in
their
body,
and
now
we
have
this
mosquito
locally.
E
That
can
actually
invite
those
people
when
they
return
and
have
local
transmission,
and
so
we're
trying
to
keep
the
populations
reduced
and
also
at
a
level
that
prevents
local
transmission,
and
so
part
of
this
campaign
is
to
reduce
that
those
numbers
and
so
what
we're
doing
currently
and
as
you'll
see
on
that.
What
on
that
yellow
Flyers
we're
doing
a
series
of
five
applications
targeted
at
lowering
the
population
in
that
specific
area?
E
That's
designated
on
the
on
the
handout
here
and
to
be
specific,
our
application
area
is
between
the
the
roads
of
Ramon,
Road
sunrise,
way
via
charisma
and
then
the
mountain
range,
so
long-term
mosquito
reduction
can
only
succeed,
though,
through
elimination
of
these
sources,
and
so,
while
these
applications
are
very
effective
and
quick
and
knocking
the
population
down,
we're
going
to
be
targeting
in
that
community
relate
to
get
rid
of
these
backyard
sources.
We
can't
get
in
everybody's
backyard
and
it's
really
going
to
take
a
community
effort,
much
more
so
than
it
has
in
the
past.
E
E
So,
when
I
talk
about
those
sources,
these
are
those
sources
plant
plant,
saucers,
buckets
bird
baths.
Toys
left
outside
septic
tanks
can
potentially
be
a
source
in
tires
and
you'll
be
surprised
how
much
stuff
people
have
in
our
in
our
backyard
and
it's
good
again
we're
asking
the
residents
to
really
be
diligent
and
doing
this
weekly
to
make
sure
that
water
from
a
summer
rain
event
or
from
your
sprinklers,
is
not
accumulating
and
causing
a
breeding
source.
In
your
backyard
and
with
that
I
can
take
any
questions
from
the
council
regarding
our
efforts.
E
Yeah,
if
the
residents
have
any
questions
about
that,
they
can
contact
our
district
and
go
to
our
website
cv,
miss
kitto
org.
You
can
put
that
in
the
search
engine.
If
you
go
to
our
control
activities,
there's
a
section
on
larva
sighting
and
then
there's
also
a
link
there,
where
residents
can
learn
more
about
what
we're
doing
and
why
we're
doing
it
and
also
about
the
products
that
we're
using.
So
they
can
get
more
information
from
us,
but
also
from
other
reliable
sources
such
as
the
CDC
and
other
other
public
health
agencies.
E
Far
as
from
the
city
and
from
the
cities
of
the
cities
been
really
responsive.
Well,
we've
been
working
with
city
staff
to
get
the
information
out
to
our
residents.
Getting
information
out
on
your
website,
I
would
say:
I
mean
from
from
my
standpoint.
We
just
recently
completed
a
strategic
plan
for
our
district
for
the
next
three
years
and
part
of
that
scan
be
engaging
all
of
our
cities
and
all
in
the
county
in
our
effort
to
really
make
sure
within
the
city
within
City
properties.
Future
planning
really
takes
an
account.
E
F
C
Thank
you
mr.
mayor,
thank
you.
Someone
came
actually
to
my
house
and
just
tested
my
backyard,
so
good
thing
I
had
zero,
but
I
was
actually
surprised
at
how
many
containers
there
were
out
that
were
out
there.
That
could
be
possible.
So
thank
you
for
your
work.
I
appreciate
it.
I
was
just
wondering
you
said
in
your
presentation
that
you
had
used
helicopters
before
and
this
year
you
you're
using
trucks
and
I.
Don't.
E
E
There's
two
methods
to
get
it's
called
wide-area
larvae,
sighting,
and
so
the
the
the
strategy,
and
also
the
challenge
for
vector,
control
and
mosquito
control
is
to
get
a
very
wide
coverage
and
control.
And
when
we're
talking
about
this
mosquito
in
particular
these
80s
a
gypped
I,
we
just
can't,
we
do
have
ability
to
get
into
two
residences,
but
it's
very
hard
and
when
we're
trying
to
knock
the
population
down
very
quickly,
these
area-wide
applications
are
very
effective,
very
targeted
at
mosquitoes
and
also
very
safe.
E
Last
year,
there's
two
ways
to
do
that.
You
do
from
a
helicopter
which
can
cover
a
very
large
area,
but
also
has
other
associated
costs
with
it
and
also
noise
issues,
and
that
was
one
thing
that
we
experienced
with
the
district.
More
really
more
than
anything
last
year
was
complaints
regarding
hey,
there's
a
helicopter
out.
You
know
in
my
neighborhood
at
3
or
4
o'clock
in
the
morning.
What's
going
on
and
so
based
on
that
miami-dade
strategy.
Several
years
ago
they
were
using
truck
mounted
applications.
E
So
it's
very
focused
it's
very
safe
and
it's
very
effective
and
it
can
get
into
all
these
little
cryptic
sources
that
we
just
can't
see
and
potentially
can't
even
see
when
we
do
a
property
inspection
to
really
knock
down
the
population.
And
then
one
other
issue
with
this
is
this
mosquito
lays
eggs
that
can
last
for
six
months
so
that
you
can
have
a
container
in
the
backyard.
This
mosquito
can
lay
eggs
that
can
dry
out
and
that's
one
of
the
issues
why
it's
it's
most
likely
moved
around
the
valley.
A
G
All
right
all
right!
Well,
if
we
need
direction.
Thank
you
for
coming
and
thank
you
for
your
report,
two
questions.
If,
if
a
citizen
wants
extra
coverage
would
say
they
have
a
commercial
site
or
they
have
a
home
with
a
half-empty
pool
and
they
want
you
to
come
and
treat
their
yard
or
their
property,
is
there
an
easy
way
for
them
to
to
get
that
as.
G
E
So
what
they
can
do
the
call
make
a
service
request
and
so
say,
for
example,
with
a
half
an
d
pool.
That's
been
a
big
source
for
the
district
for
many
years,
especially
since
the
housing
bubble
burst,
and
that's
one
thing
that
that
we
aren't
working
on
it.
But
we
can't
we
can't
come
out
the
major
way
we
deal
with
that
is
putting
mosquito
fish.
We
raise
mosquito
fish
that
are
basically
a
guppy
that
can
live
in
that
pool
and
eat
anything
mosquito
larvae,
anything
else
that
goes
in
there,
but.
G
Do
it
you'll,
do
it
Jimmy,
okay,
I,
think
you
answered
this
question,
but
I
was
awake
the
other
day
when
the
truck
down
my
street,
okay
and
I,
heard
it
and
saw
it.
I
also
saw
one
of
my
neighbors
walking
their
dog
who
went
running
in
the
s
direction
with
their
dog
terrified.
What
is
the
real
if
any,
threat
to
people
and
animals
who
are
right
there
walking
down
the
street
when
you
guys
are
spraying
this
stuff,
yeah.
E
There's
really
no
threat
to
them.
I
mean
it's
it's
safe.
It's
it's
made
to
be
applied
as
a
public
health
pesticide
and
so
at
the
rates
that
we
use.
There's
no
need
to
avoid
it.
We
recommend
that
you
don't
I
mean
we
do
typically
shut
off.
When
we
do
see
somebody,
we
can
see
someone's
in
the
way
we'll
stop,
but
there
is
real,
no
need
to
run
the
other
way.
E
E
G
E
E
Our
website
is
CVM,
ECD,
org
or
you
can
just
type
in
CV
mosquito
and
it
should
come
up
CV
mosquito
at
Coachella,
Valley,
mosquito,
mm-hmm,
okay
and
then,
as
far
as
our
phone
number,
it's
seven
six
zero.
Three
four
two
eight
two
eight
seven
and
they
can
call
and
again
select
if
they're
concerned
about
mosquitos
they'll,
select
the
mosquito
function
and
then
I'll
go
to
our
call
center
and
they'll
arrange
if
you
want
a
service
request
or
they
have
information.
But.
E
H
G
Thank
You
mayor
I'm,
I,
don't
know
the
item
number
but
I'd
like
to
pull
the
I'd
like
to
pull
the
agenda
item
on
the
new
city
trash
receptacles
see.
Is
that
see?
Okay,
we
want
I'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
pull
that
to
a
date
uncertain.
We.
We
want
to
go
through
a
little
more
process
with
our
sustainability
Commission
and
with
our
our
Main
Street
organization.
Before
that's
ready
for
council,
you
want
table
it.
Yeah
basically
table
it
to
a
date
uncertain.
A
F
C
A
Okay,
thank
you
customer
holstege.
Okay,
do
we
have
a
motion
to
accept
the
agenda
as
a
minute
of
the
following
items
pulled
from
the
consent,
calendar
item
5c
or
just
like
the
saint
calendar
right
now,
items
1c,
1d
and
1f,
and
item
5c
will
be
tabled
motion
to
approved
by
customer
cores.
Second,
on
my
customer
holstege
motions
on
the
floor.
A
I
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
members
of
the
council,
we
did
meet
and
convene
at
4:30.
We
did
not
have
the
opportunity
to
discuss
the
existing
litigation
item.
We
did
discuss
five
matters
of
anticipated
litigation,
one
of
them
being
the
noticed
matter.
That
is
noticed
by
name.
We
only
had
time
for
two
of
the
matters
of
initiated
litigation.
We
did
not
have
time
to
discuss
the
real
estate
matters
that
are
noticed
on
the
agenda
and
as
to
the
labor
negotiation
discussions,
we
only
took
up
the
unrepresented
employees.
I
A
You,
mr.
Cochran
next
item,
is
public
testimony
for
non
public
hearing
agenda
items.
Only
this
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
City
Council.
Only
on
agenda
items.
Two
minutes
will
be
assigned
to
each
speaker.
Testimony
for
public
hearings
will
only
be
taken
at
the
time
of
the
hearing
and
general
public
comments
on
agenda
items
will
be
taken
later
in
the
meeting.
Currently
we
have
five
people
requested
to
speak.
The
first
one
is
Robert.
Mccann
second
is
Bob
Hein
ball
and
then
third
is
Paul.
Hendrickson.
J
My
name
is
Robert
Heinlein
I'm,
a
resident
of
Palm
Springs
I,
wish
to
thank
the
mayor
and
the
City
Council
for
addressing
the
tobacco
retailer
permit
county
ordinance.
Eight
38.2,
as
its
passage,
will
bring
Palm
Springs,
not
just
into
the
21st
century,
but
a
place
where
we
say
to
our
community,
its
residents
and
businesses
and
visitors
that
we
place
a
premium
on
the
lives
of
our
visitors
on
the
lives
of
our
children.
We
value
their
health
and
well-being
and
we'll
do
what
is
necessary
to
protect
their
health
from
the
use
of
tobacco
and
its
byproducts.
J
Well,
they
may
not
recognize
the
actions
that
we're
taking
on
their
behalf
now
some
day
they
will
know
that
there
are
lower
insurance
premiums
because
of
the
of
never
using
tobacco
products.
Our
are
as
a
result
of
what
we're
doing
in
this
chamber.
Well,
they
may
not
recognize
the
actions
we're
taking
on
their
behalf
now
someday.
They
will
know
that
the
job
that
they
are
hired
to
fill
is
because
they
do
not
smoke
and
therefore
will
not
cost
their
employer
higher
health
care
premiums.
J
Well,
they
may
not
recognize
the
actions
that
we
are
taking
on
their
behalf
now
someday.
They
will
know
that
a
housing
using
the
housing
unit
they
wish
to
occupy
will
be
theirs
because
they
do
not
use
tobacco
products,
thus
decreasing
the
recovery
costs
of
the
owner.
One
last
thought:
well:
they
may
not
recognize
the
actions
that
we're
taking
on
their
behalf
now
someday.
J
They
will
know
that
the
potential
grabbed
me
by
the
heart
and
spin
my
head
spouse,
who
they
might
meet
in
college
in
the
military
at
their
worksite,
wherever
they
may,
wherever
they
might
be,
may
say
yes
with
enthusiasm,
simply
because
we
stop
today's
kid
from
smelling
like
an
ashtray
and
I
cannot
imagine
wanting
to
make
whoopee
with
an
ashtray.
We
take
these
actions
now
because
we
love
and
care
for
our
kids.
Just
do
the
right
thing.
Please.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
J
Evening,
Paul
Palm
Springs
resident
dear
mayor
City,
Council
you're,
our
neighbors
friends,
fellow
dedicated
volunteers.
Thank
you
for
taking
this
moment
to
hear
from
me
regarding
this
critical
Riverside
County
tobacco
retail
permit
ordinance.
Paul
Springs
has
tripled
the
national
average
of
illegal
sales
of
tobacco
to
underage
youth.
Currently,
there
are
basically
no
consequences
to
retailers
in
Palm
Springs
for
doing
so.
Unlike
illegal
sales
of
alcohol,
we
are
very
much
looking
forward
to
our
city
standing
up
strong
against
the
tobacco
industry
and
protecting
our
precious
youth
from
becoming
victims
of
the
tobacco
industry.
J
Big
tobacco
spends
approximately
a
million
dollars
a
day
recruiting
new
victims
for
their
deadly
products.
Studies
unsurprisingly,
show
approximately
99%
of
longtime
smokers
started
well
before
the
legal
age
just
ask
any
smoker
or
former
smoker
when
they
started
doing
our
best
to
restrict
youth
access
to
tobacco
products
will
greatly
help
reduce
the
number
of
tobacco
tobacco
industry
victims
in
turn
saving
lives
and
prevent
profound
suffering.
This
is
our
chance
to
show
responsible
stewardship
in
a
collective
voice
that
says
to
Big
Tobacco.
No,
we
don't
support
big
tobacco
interests.
J
These
are
our
precious
youth
and
we
care
about
their
lives,
health
and
wellness,
unlike
Big
Tobacco.
This
Riverside
County
ordinance
finally
will
bring
much-needed
consequences
to
retailers
who
illegally
sell
to
our
precious
youth.
All
aspects
of
this
ordinance
are
handled
at
the
county
level,
with
no
cost
to
the
city
or
use
of
city
personnel.
Please
please,
please
support
the
ordinance.
Palm
Springs
is
one
of
the
few
remaining
cities
in
Riverside
County,
which
is
not
yet
adopted.
J
H
Good
evening
my
name
is
Melissa
and
I
am
with
American
Cancer
Society
Cancer
Action
Network
of
project
BB.
We
are
funded
by
the
state
of
California
to
address
tobacco
related
health
disparities
in
the
Hispanic
Latino
community
in
Riverside,
County,
we're
committed
to
protecting
the
health
and
the
well-being
of
the
citizens
of
Palm
Springs
through
evidence-based
policy
and
legislative
solutions
designed
to
eliminate
cancer
as
a
major
health
problem.
H
As
much
as
such,
we
are
here
to
provide
input
about
the
adoption
of
the
tobacco
retail
license
or
permit
lung
cancer
is
a
leading
cause
of
cancer
deaths
among
his
Hispanic
Latino
populations
in
California
and
smoking
causes.
Eighty
to
ninety
percent
of
lung
cancer
cases,
big
topic,
aggressively
discounts,
favorite
cigars
and
cigarettes,
imprinted
predominantly
Hispanic
Latino
neighborhoods
to
hurt
new
customers
I'm,
providing
a
cop
providing
copies
of
maps
or
from
Stanford
to
show
you
the
relation
between
the
inner
city
and
tobacco
retailers
in
your
city.
H
Tobacco
companies
have
a
long
history
of
marketing
to
vulnerable
populations
and
target
youth
with
the
imagery
and
by
marketing
candy
and
fruit
flavored
tobacco.
We
have
long
recognized
the
significance
of
adolescence
as
a
period
during
which
smoking
behaviors
are
typically
developed.
Adult
sons
are
still
going
through
critical
periods
of
brain
growth
and
development
and
they're
especially
vulnerable
to
the
task
toxic
effects
of
nicotine.
A
study
published
in
the
journal
Pediatrics
found
out
the
earlier.
H
You
are
exposed
to
nicotine,
the
less
likely
they
will
be
able
to
quit
smoking
prohibiting
the
serve
off
flavored
tobacco
products,
including
menthol
cigarettes
and
prohibiting
the
self
tobacco
near
youth,
sensitive
locations,
will
also
read
also,
while
also
reducing
window
advertising.
Our
important
component
over
the
comprehensive
strategy
to
effectively
effectively
help
reduce
tobacco
initiation
by
children.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
H
Another
item
that
we
can
all
agree
on
is
that
none
of
us
think
that
children
should
use
tobacco
and
yet
90%
of
all
people
start
smoking
as
a
teenager.
However,
everyone
except
the
tobacco
companies
think
kids
shouldn't
start.
The
tobacco
companies
have
been
adjudicated
as
racketeers
under
the
RICO
Act
act,
and
the
ruling
judge
Gladys
Kessler
said
that
they
have
a
corporate
culture
of
corruption
that
is
unlikely
to
change
in
that
court
case.
The
audacity
of
the
tobacco
companies
was
exposed.
H
I've
given
brought
copies
for
each
of
you
from
that
case,
outlining
all
of
the
marketing
that
the
tobacco
companies
do
to
our
youth.
The
tobacco
companies
spent
billions
of
dollars
each
year
on
marketing
aphid
activities
to
encourage
young
people
to
try
and
then
continue
purchasing
tobacco
in
order
to
provide
the
replacement
smokers,
they
need
to
survive
enforcement
at
the
state
and
the
federal
level
is
inadequate.
Regulation
of
tobacco
products
cannot
keep
pace
with
the
alternative
tobacco
products
being
introduced
into
the
market.
The
toll
on
of
tobacco
on
California
cannot
be
minimized.
H
H
Okay,
that's
what
I
do-
and
this
is
my
name
good
evening.
I
know
that
you
pulled
the
item
off
of
the
agenda,
but
I
really
just
wanted
to
say.
Thank
you
to
councilman,
Roberts
I.
Think
that
there's
more
work
to
be
done,
I
think
that
we
could
do
something
awesome
with
all
the
different
kinds
of
street
furniture
that
we're
looking
for.
I.
Think
that
your
staff
is
incredible.
H
A
A
B
Mayor
I'm,
sorry,
council
reports,
oh
I'm,
sorry.
A
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
I,
checked
it
off
automatically
city,
council
subcommittee
and
city
manager's
comments
and
reports
this
time,
just
a
set
aside
for
the
City
Council
to
provide
additional
general
comments,
reports
and
announcements.
Additionally,
this
time
is
set
aside
for
the
city
manager
to
update
the
City
Council
on
important
items
initiated
by
staff
or
previously
requested
by
the
City
Council
customer
Middleton.
F
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
earlier
today
the
Planning
Commission
met
and
I
was
the
city
council
liaison
and
attended
that
meeting.
Mr.
mayor,
you
also
said
enduring
one
part
of
the
session
today,
the
Planning
Commission
is
going
to
be
bringing
forward
to
us
very
shortly
their
recommendations
on
two
critical
items.
One
is
Golf
Course
conversions.
The
second
has
to
do
with
public
benefits
in
plan
development
districts.
F
F
A
couple
of
other
items-
I'm,
sorry,
okay,
we've
been
busy
lately,
councilmember,
holstege
and
I-
have
had
two
very
good
sub.
Our
ad
hoc
meetings
with
desert
AIDS
project
regarding
their
upcoming,
affordable
housing
project
and
I'm
very
pleased
to
see
that
we
are
starting
to
make
progress
on
developing,
affordable
housing.
F
Last
Friday
I
was
in
Sacramento
with
representatives
from
the
Riverside
County
Transportation
Commission.
We
met
with
Under
Secretary
of
Transportation
Chad
Edison.
The
purpose
of
those
meetings
were
to
discuss
two
issues.
One
was
rail
to
the
Coachella
Valley.
It
is
a
long
time
coming,
but
we
are
still
making
progress
on
moving
that
in
the
right
direction.
The
second
issue,
and
one
that
is
very
near
and
dear
to
the
hearts
of
people
here
in
Palm
Springs,
is
gaining
greater
flexibility
for
municipalities
to
invoke
speed
limits
that
work
in
their
own
cities.
F
Accounts
are
excuse
me,
Assemblymember,
Laura,
Friedman
sponsored
and
the
governor
has
signed
a
B
2363,
which
will
set
up
statewide
task
force
to
study
recommendations
that
hopefully
will
result
in
greater
flexibility
on
speed
limits
and
greater
opportunities
for
all
municipalities
to
get
to
what
we
are
shooting
for
zero
pedestrian
fatalities,
and
those
are
my
items.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
I've
got
two
quick
items,
so
the
Cannabis
ad
hoc
committee
met
specifically
for
one
item
and
that
was
on
odor
issues
related
to
cannabis,
growth
and
production,
and
apparently
we're
starting
to
develop
a
problem
in
in
certain
neighborhoods,
and
so
the
good
news
on
this
is
apparently
the
technology
for
mitigating
odors
having
to
do
with
cannabis.
Production
has
jumped
dramatically
and
we
are
looking
into
those
measures.
We
will
implement
them
as
quickly
as
possible.
G
I
think,
even
more
importantly
than
that,
this
will
cause
the
ad
hoc
committee
to
write
to
re-examine
our
policy
and
write
new
language
to
require
much
higher
levels
of
mitigation
prior
to
them
even
getting
their
licenses
and
permits.
And
you
know
we're
gonna
have
to
go
backwards,
a
little
for
the
six
that
are
that
are
there
now,
but
we're
grateful
that
it's
only
six
that
we
need
to
deal
with.
G
There's
not
only
new
technology
in
terms
of
mitigating
the
odors,
but
there's
now
great
new
technology
and
monitoring
the
odors,
where
we
can
actually
measure
the
level
of
odors
that
are
escaping
from
a
building.
So
we're
on
that.
We
we
are
going
to
put
out
a
very
strong
and
very
specific
PR
plan
to
let
the
neighborhoods
now
know
in
the
community
now
know
that
we're
working
on
that
because
that's
become
a
concern.
G
The
the
ad
hoc
down
Park
subcommittee,
met
Councilwoman,
holstege
and
I,
and
we
met
specifically
about
the
illuminator
house,
the
illuminator
house,
for
those
that
are
familiar
with.
It
is
an
original
Albert
Frey
house
that
was
built
and
has
lived
it
in
different
parts
of
the
country
and
it
currently
lives
here
in
Palm,
Springs
and
a
freight
container,
and
it's
looking
for
a
place
to
be
built
and
there's
a
group
of
very
hard-working
people
who
are
raising
the
money
to
actually
build
it
here.
Someplace
and
we're
looking
at
locations
for
that
downtown.
G
C
You
mr.
mayor
I
just
have
a
few
announcements
and
reports.
One,
the
animal
shelter,
the
Friends
of
the
animal
shelter
has
hired
an
executive
director.
Her
name
is
Gabrielle
Amster
and
she
started
today.
So
it's
really
great
news
that
they've
hired
a
director
of
operations
and
now
an
executive
director
and
so
I
think
it'll
help
the
city
and
the
animal
shelter
work
closely
together
and
it's
just
great
to
see
the
support
of
our
animal
shelter
that
continues
to
grow.
C
It's
such
an
important
institution
in
our
city,
I,
went
to
this
Eve
AG
homelessness,
task
force
and
that's
an
agenda
item
that
I'm
going
to
go
over
the
report,
but
I
was
also
elected.
The
vice
chair
of
that
committee,
so
that's
exciting,
I
serve
with
sabe
Jonathan
who's,
the
chair,
who's,
excellent
and
we're
doing
a
lot
of
work
and
I.
Think
every
time
I
go
it's
great
to
have
the
leadership
that
Palm
Springs
is
showing
to
be
able
to
bring
that
and
help
lead.
C
C
Relatedly
councilmember,
Coors
and
I
continue
to
meet
as
our
ad-hoc
homelessness
subcommittee
for
this
city
and
we've
been
working
really
really
hard
on
working
with
different
partners,
trying
to
put
a
number
of
different
projects
together.
As
the
council
knows,
we
just
declared
a
shelter
emergency
in
order
to
get
Hiep
funding
for
a
number
of
different
projects
that
were
working
on
and
so
we're
meeting
with
the
county
and
different
agencies
to
try
to
put
something
together
and
so
right
now
we're
looking
at
sites
for
homelessness
services
or
a
wellness
village
of
types.
C
So
if
anyone
there
in
the
community
knows
of
sites
that
would
be
good
we're
having
city
looking
at
different
sites,
we're
talking
to
different
partners
who
might
own
land.
That
might
be
good
for
that,
because
I've
heard
again
and
again
from
the
whole
Coachella
Valley
and
from
our
residents
is
that
we
need
a
place
in
the
West
Valley
where
people
can
go
and
we
have
the
highest
number
of
homeless
people
by
a
lot
here
in
Palm
Springs,
the
Mayor
Pro,
Tem
and
I
met
about
rainbow
crosswalks.
C
Thank
you
to
Marcus
and
staff
for
working
on
that.
So
we
had
a
good
meeting
brainstormed
a
lot
of
different
creative
ways
that
we
could
be
different
from
a
lot
of
cities
who
have
already
done
rainbow
crosswalks
and
really
stand
out
as
part
of
our
brand
being
like
no
place
else.
We
want
a
crosswalk
like
no
place
else
and
so
come.
The
mayor.
Pro-Tem
had
a
lot
of
creative
ideas
about
that.
So
that's
exciting
and
we're
trying
to
put
that
together
with
the
Indian
Canyon
two-way
conversion.
C
So
that's
about
the
timing
that
we're
thinking
of
though
we
were,
we
met
with
Rhonda
Hart
from
Palm
Springs
pride
and
talked
about
different
creative
ways
that
we
could
spruce
up:
Arena
Street
for
Palm
Springs
pride
as
well.
So
those
are
the
things
we're
looking
at
councilmember,
Kors
and
I
met
with
the
sustainability
standing
committee
on
waste
reduction,
and
we
talked
about
a
few
items
that
they're
working
on.
C
That's
a
great
subcommittee
and
they're
doing
a
lot
of
work
for
the
city
and
they're,
also
looking
at
the
straw,
ordinance
the
styrofoam
potential
ordinance
and
a
lot
of
our
waste
that
we
use
here
in
the
city
and
in
the
community.
So
one
thing
that
they
did
is
they
created
a
survey
for
businesses
to
fill
out
about
the
use?
C
So
if
you,
what
type
of
containers
you
use
for
to
go
items,
what
type
of
straws
you
use
how
feasible
it
would
be
for
you
to
can
change
to
different
types
of
sustainable
materials
and
what
the
city
can
do
to
help
businesses
be
more
sustainable,
so
we're
sending
that
out
to
businesses
so
through
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
a
few
other
avenues.
So
please
look
for
that
and
if
you're
a
business
please
reach
out
to
us.
C
K
Thank
You
mayor
one
follow-up
on
that
is
one
of
the
things
we
learned
in
the
meeting
with
on
recycling
with
the
sustainability
folks
was
that
under
state
law,
starting
January,
1st
2019,
there
are
a
lot
of
new
commercial
recycling
requirements
that
are
going
to
be
a
major
change
for
a
lot
of
businesses.
The
city
has
been
very
proactive
and
sending
letters
out,
but
given
I
know
what
happens
to
a
lot
of
that
kind
of
mail
that
comes
to
my
house.
K
I
thought
that
we
needed
to
sort
of
amp
that
up
a
little
more
so
we're
going
to
be
presenting
to
the
Palm
Springs
hospitality,
Association,
the
hotel
general
managers
with
someone
from
Palm
Springs
disposal
and
a
ferrata
or
Economic
Community,
Development
Director
to
really
get
out
there,
Jays,
actually
working
to
sort
of
show
them.
How
much
they're
gonna
have
two
extra
they're
gonna
have
to
recycle
by
the
right
size
stuff.
So
people
have
a
good
sense
of
what's
required
and
there's
a
lot
more
coming
down
in
the
several
years
ahead.
K
K
So,
as
liaison
to
PS
resorts,
we
had
a
meeting
last
week
and
just
a
couple
updates,
they're
approving
and
just
so
folks
understand.
There
are
two
pots
of
money
that
comes
from
t
ot
on
half
of
the
t,
ot
on
the
resort
fee
that
some
hotels
charge
is
used
to
promote
tourism,
and
some
of
it
is
determined
by
the
City
Council,
which
we've
already
done
is
some
is
determined
by
the
board
of
PS
resorts,
and
so
they
have
their
funding
as
they
have
every
year.
K
Twenty
five
thousand
dollars
towards
tour
to
Palm
Springs,
which
brings
them
up
to
what
they've
got
in
the
past
between
the
city
and
PS
resorts
for
pride,
they've
upped
their
amount
to
fifteen
thousand,
so
between
the
grant
we
gave
and
this
extra
money
that
will
cover
all
of
prides
various
fees.
Polly
sheriff
all
the
extra
costs
of
putting
on
pride,
so
this
covers
all
the
fees
which
is
how
they
got
to
that
number.
K
They
also
approved
ten
thousand
for
the
Palm
Springs
air
museum,
given
its
impact
on
tourism
for
Palm
Springs
and
thirty-five
thousand
for
the
Palm
Springs
International
Film
Festival
and
the
only
other
thing
I
have
is
a
couple
days
ago,
the
governor
signed
Assembly
Bill,
just
pulled
it
up
and
I
forgot.
The
number
nineteen
twelve,
which
is
the
one
that
has
creates
liability
for
cities
for
unfunded
future,
looks
like
it's
not
past,
but
unfunded
pension
liabilities
for
JP
A's
were
part
of
so
it'd,
be
really
helpful
to
get
an
analysis
of
the
JPS.
K
We're
part
of
that
actually
are
part
of
CalPERS
and
whether
they
have
any
unfunded
liabilities
and
what
their
plans
are
and
whether
we
need
to
put
in
provisions
in
any
future
agreements
in
those
JP
A's
about
them
staying
fully
funded
on
their
CalPERS
obligations.
So
it
doesn't
end
up
if
the
JPA
goes
under,
for
whatever
reason
that
Palm
Springs
ends
up
with
a
huge
liability
that
we
had
no
idea
we
were
coming
and
getting
so
maybe
that
can
come
back
with
a
meeting
with
the
budget
subcommittee
to
look
at.
That
would
be
terrific.
A
I
can
come
of
course.
Next
item
is
consent.
Calendar
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
accept
the
consent
calendar
without
items
1c.
If
one
excuse
me
without
items
1d
and
1f
and
councillor
Middleton
will
be
recusing
from
item
1c
motion
to
approve
by
Mayor
Burton
Robert.
Second
of
my
customer
holsters
motion
is
on
the
floor.
C
You,
mr.
mayor
so
sivak,
the
Coachella
Valley
Association
of
Governments
hired
hark
to
do
an
independent
statistical
analysis
about
the
success
of
the
path
of
life
program.
The
housing
first
program
that
all
the
cities
are
funding
together
and
the
tribes
as
well
are
all
funding
this
program
and
I
did
say
on
the
record
I
wish.
We
did
this
data
analysis
for
every
type
of
program
that
we
do
here
in
government,
because
I
just
think.
It's
a
great
idea
to
really
look
at
the
data.
C
There's
been
some
miscommunication
about
the
path
of
life
program
and
the
housing
first
model,
because
they're
investing
a
lot
of
money
into
housing,
people
getting
people,
housing
first
and
providing
services
as
well,
and
then
you
know
keeping
people
in
home.
So
initially
they
weren't
doing
outreach,
and
so
that
was
some
of
the
pushback
from
the
community
leaders
that
they
weren't
connecting
with
them
and
so
Steve
AG.
You
may
remember:
I
recently
said
that
we
changed
the
agreement
to
allow
them
to
do
outreach,
but
this
is
it's
I
attached
it
here.
C
Most
89%
successfully
completed
the
program,
and
this
I
think
is
the
most
exciting
part,
the
monthly
income
of
those
who
exited
more
than
doubled
from
on
an
average
six
hundred
and
twenty
nine
dollars
a
month
which,
as
we
know,
is
usually
not
enough
even
for
rent
to
$1,400
a
month
which
is
huge
and
they
compared
as
well.
In
the
report,
you'll
see
they
compared
those
statistics
to
Royce.
C
C
You
know
the
majority
of
Roy's
clients
only
2%
of
Roy's
clients
exited
to
permanent
destinations
compared
with
more
than
eighty
percent
for
this
housing
first
model
and
people
in
Roy's.
There
wasn't
a
huge
increase
in
their
their
income
as
well,
and
so
overall,
the
sieve
AG
committee
was
really
really
happy.
With
these
results
and
the
data
they
asked.
C
Any
cities
who
want
I
know
we
just
had
path
of
life
come
and
report,
but
hark
said
the
people
who
did
the
statistical
analysis
said
that
they're
happy
to
come
to
any
city
and
report
on
these
statistics
and
give
an
answer
any
questions
so
I
think
it's
really
exciting.
This
is
just
the
first
year
that
we
fund
this
program
and
it
really
has
been
a
huge
success
and
they've
housed
and
then
kept
hundreds
of
people
permanently
housed,
and
so
it's
really
really
exciting
to
watch
the
results
so
I.
C
G
C
C
Gonna
grill
me
I,
try
really
hard
not
to
say
acronym,
so
I
appreciate
it.
We
shouldn't
use,
acronyms
Heep
is
I,
don't
know
it's
homeless.
What.
K
G
K
C
So
heap
is
separate.
That's
what
we
declared
a
shelter
emergency
in
order
to
get
the
heap
funding,
which
is
just
state
funding
for
homelessness,
and
so
that's
separate.
Then
the
sieve
AG
funding,
which
we
use
out
of
our
general
fund
to
support
C,
VAG's
path
of
life,
housing
first
program.
But
yes
thank
you.
A
C
Thank
you.
I
just
had
a
quick
edit
on
page
ten,
so
it's
the
excluded
consent
calendar
item.
Oh
the
agreement
with
Tesla,
it's
about
my
recusal,
so
it
says:
councilmember
holstege
announced
her
recusal
due
to
a
financial
conflict
of
interest.
I
actually
don't
believe.
I
had
a
conflict
of
interest,
but
a
potential
financial
conflict
of
interest,
and
then
the
vote
as
well
should
be
four
to
zero.
With
with
me,
abstaining
or
recusing,
that's
all
I
have.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
You
now
we
move
into
public
hearings,
item
2a,
j5
infrastructure
on
behalf
of
AT&T
Mobility,
for
a
conditional
use
permit
to
install
a
wireless
communications
facility
consisting
of
twelve
eight
foot
tall
panel
antennas
on
the
roof
of
an
existing
warehouse
building
located
at
seven
seven
zero.
South
gene
autry
trail
zone
M,
one
Section,
20
staff
report.
Please.
Mr.
L
L
Thank
you.
The
application
has
been
reviewed
by
the
Planning
Commission
and
actually
came
back
to
the
Planning
Commission
several
times.
One
of
the
concerns
of
the
Planning
Commission,
with
the
request
is
that
the
antennas
will
be
located
in
screened,
enclosures
on
top
of
the
building,
and
there
was
concern
about
the
design
of
the
enclosures
and
the
visibility
of
the
enclosures.
The
Planning
Commission
reviewed
these
again
on
September
the
12th
and
recommended
approval
of
conditional
use
permit
subject
to
conditions.
L
The
applicant
has
accommodated
most
of
those
provisions
within
the
drawings
that
you
have
in
your
attach
packet
in
terms
of
the
locations
of
the
antennas
they'll
be
within
three
enclosures
mounted
on
the
roof
of
the
building,
I've
circled
them
there
in
red,
which
is
shown
on
your
screens,
so
one
enclosure
will
be
on
the
north
end
of
the
building
one
on
the
east
and
then
one
on
the
south.
The
principal
or
primary
facade
of
the
building
is
facing
gene
autry
trail.
So
none
of
the
enclosures
will
be
on
the
principal
facade
facing
gene
autry.
L
L
Again,
the
Planning
Commission
went
through
several
iterations
of
the
design
of
these
enclosures
and
ultimately,
what
you
see
is
the
recommendation
of
the
Planning
Commission
relative
to
the
design
and
the
colouring
of
those
enclosures.
That
will
be
there
on
top
of
the
building.
This
is
the
second
view
showing
the
southernmost
enclosure
and
also
the
one
on
the
East
facade
and
then
again,
the
southernmost
enclosure
facing
sunny
dunes.
L
The
proposed
application
conforms
to
our
conditions
for
conditional
use
permits,
based
on
the
modifications
that
have
been
made
to
the
enclosures
at
the
recommendation.
The
Planning
Commission
staff
also
recommends
approval
of
the
request.
We'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have
about
this
particular
application.
We
have.
A
A
Therefore,
we
will
open
the
floor
for
public
comment.
The
applicant
has
five
minutes
to
present
their
case
and,
if
requested,
we'll
have
two
minutes
available
at
the
end
of
rebuttal.
Members
of
the
public
will
then
be
invited
to
speak
on
this
public
item
for
up
to
public
hearing
item
four
two
minutes.
H
A
A
A
A
I
Mayor
members
of
the
council,
the
concept
of
a
tobacco
retailer
permit
is
not
new
in
Riverside
County
counties
been
at
this
for
some
time,
as
is
memorialized
in
the
staff
report.
For
you,
it's
an
evolved
system
that
the
county
has
refined
and
it
is
in
operation
actively
in
many
jurisdictions
again.
As
per
the
staff
report,
the
county's
ordinance
is
enclosed
and
some
additional
significant
information
with
respect
to
the
impact
in
certain
Riverside
County
cities
is
provided
for
your
consideration.
I
There
are
dramatic
declines
in
the
youth
sales
rate
with
respect
to
tobacco
products
that
are
realized
that
have
been
realized
throughout
the
county.
As
a
result
of
this
program,
there's
not
a
lot
of
actual
legislation
before
you,
because
we
are
simply
adopting
a
county
program.
The
city
does
not
have
any
authority
or
responsibilities
with
respect
to
enforcement.
The
county
is
driving
this
bus
and
as
a
practical
matter,
it
seems
to
work
quite
well.
I
want
to
thank
councilmember
Coors
for
bringing
this
to
us
and
before
I.
Ask
him
if
he
has
comments.
I
I'll
just
note
that
the
the
enforcement,
the
interdiction
is
aggressive.
There
are
stings,
there
are
sort
of
undercover
purchases
that
are
inherent
to
the
enforcement
mechanism,
that
the
county
has
been
utilizing
and
that
penalties
do
escalate
with
respect
to
repeat
offenders
and
permits
are
revoked.
So
retailers
should
be
on
notice
that,
if
they're
selling
to
to
minors
that's
going
to
end-
and
it's
going
to
end
immediately
with
the
county,
with
the
city's
adoption
of
this
effective
County
program,
councilmember
Coors,
anything
that
you'd
like
to
add.
K
No,
they
had
covered
it.
It
actually
was
a
councilman
for
holstege
and
I,
or
the
ad
hoc
no
problem.
So
I
want
to
acknowledge
that.
Thank
the
people
who
came
and
spoke
Paul
Bob
has
really
stayed
on
top
of
us
to
get
this
on
the
agenda.
So
thank
you,
Eddie
for
getting
this
done.
No
I
think
you
covered
it.
There's
no
cost
to
the
city.
It's
a
program,
the
county
operates.
We
just
need
to
give
him
permission
to
do
it
and
it's
been
very
effective
in
the
places
they've
done
it.
So.
Thank
you.
A
F
Go
we
go
on
page
two.
There's
notation
that
after
consultation
with
the
tribe
that
both
allotted
land
trusts
and
tribal
land
trusts
will
be
exempted
from
this
ordinance
now
I
am
familiar
with
tribal
trust,
lands
being
exempted
from
these
types
of
ordinances.
Are
we
breaking
any
new
ground
with
exempting
allotted
land
trusts?
No.
I
As
a
matter
of
fact,
it's
consistent
with
our
recently
renewed
and
restated
land
use
agreement
with
the
tribe,
as
you
know,
and
as
the
council
has
directed
for
a
long
time.
We
have
a
very
close
partnership
with
the
tribe
I
thoroughly
discussed
this
matter
with
my
counterpart,
and
this
was
the
result.
So
no
we're
not
breaking
new
ground
or
setting
new
precedent
in
this
respect.
Do.
F
I
And
that's
an
important
point,
so
I'll
underscore
the
significance
of
your
comment
and
then
I'll
simply
answer.
No.
The
jurisdictional
element
here
is
really
important.
The
tribe
is
a
sovereign
nation
and
unless
they
assign
us
as
their
agent
with
respect
to
some
of
these
types
of
programs
as
a
practical
matter,
it
just
doesn't
work.
We
are
going
to
enforce
this
program
every
place
that
we
can,
the
county
will
and
as
a
practical
matter,
I
don't
have
an
answer
for
you
with
respect
to
the
numbers
of
tobacco
retailers.
We
can
certainly
bring
that
back.
I
F
C
C
That
was
my
only
question.
I
did
want
to
thank
the
people
who
are
here,
who've
been
advocating
for
this.
This
is
here
on
the
agenda
because
you
emailed
us
and
reached
out
to
us
and
met
with
us
a
number
of
times.
So
thank
you
for
advocating-
and
you
know
we're
here
if
the
community
wants
ordinances
like
this,
to
look
at
this
and
implement
them.
So
really
it's
it's
thanks
to
you
and
not
our
subcommittee.
A
D
Thank
You
mayor
members
of
council,
up
what's
before
you
is
a
measure
J
capital
fund
for
the
current
fiscal
year.
As
you
will
recall,
when
we
approved
the
the
city
budget
council
set
aside,
in
essence,
a
pot
of
money
to
be
allocated
at
a
later
date
of
because
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
of
priorities
and
what
were
staffs
priorities.
What
was
measure
J's
recommendations?
What
this
is
here
this
evening.
It
is
not
necessarily
for
you
to
give
us
final
direction:
Oh
Marcus
for
the
assistant
city
manager
and
I.
D
We
wanted
to
in
essence,
begin
the
discussion
again,
so
you
can
start
thinking
about
what
our
priorities
are
and,
as
we
put
this
together,
what
we
realize
is
it's
very
sort
of
complicated
set
of
facts
and
figures
and
priorities,
and
certainly
there's
a
lot
of
need
and
not
enough
resources.
That
being
said,
is
we
give
this
more
thought
mayor,
I
think
what
might
be
a
better
process,
and
this
is
what
I
would
I
would
ask
is
if,
if
is
mayor,
if
you
could
appoint
a
a.
D
So
so
that
being
said,
I
think
a
subcommittee,
you
might
be
able
to
help
us
go
through
this
to
come
back
to
Council,
ultimately
with
a
more
comprehensive,
detailed
set
of
recommendations
that
include
some
of
the
other
things
beyond
just
the
health
and
safety.
So
that
being
said,
mayor,
that's
a
long
way
of
saying
we're,
certainly
open
for
discussion,
any
direction
you
want
to
give
us
now,
but
but
chip,
but
for
the
most
part.
D
A
C
Gonna
ask
as
well
just
because
I've
advocated
for
a
capital
improvement
program
and
to
do
this
comprehensively
I
mean
I,
know
you're
on
measure
J.
So
that's
fine
with
me,
but
I.
This
is
really
important
to
me,
especially
when
we're
talking
about
our
parks
and
as
the
Park
Parks
and
Rec
liaison
I.
Think
it's
really
important
to
talk
about
that.
So
I
would
like
to
serve
on
it
as
well.
D
K
Thank
you
to
the
mayor
and
Councilman
for
holstege
for
volunteering,
just
as
I
look
at
the
list
and
some
sort
of
the
broader
list
of
things
I
think
will
be
helpful,
at
least
from
one
of
your
meetings
to
have
the
city
attorney
there,
because
well,
I
want
to
also
look
at
liability
issues
right
safety
bollards.
If
we
don't
do
them
a
DA
repair,
so
a
number
of
things
that
may
may
not
be
as
high
a
priority
in
some
sense.
H
C
A
really
good
point,
so
if
we
could
get
that
recommendation
before
we
meet
and
review
it
and
then
we'll
have
more
information,
I
also
wanted
just
more
information
about
each
of
these
projects.
What
they
are,
what
they
entail
sort
of
some
description
about
each
one
and
the
necessity
would
be
really
helpful
for
me
to
review
as
well.
A
A
One
and
also
I
know
this
is
not
a
huge
ticket
item,
but
for
the
mayor
for
Tim
and
I
are
on
the
ad
hoc
subcommittee
for
the
holiday
decorations,
and
our
Director
of
Facilities
has
been
telling
us
for
three
years
as
she's
putting
them
up
with
bit
with
with
duct
tape,
they're
falling
apart
and
they're,
not
gonna.
Last
much
longer
so
could
you
also
have
facilities?
Give
us
an
update
on
mayor.
D
If
I
could-
and
that
is
an
important
issue-
though
the
holdup
has
been
is
you
can
appreciate-
this
is
an
artistic
discretionary
choice
and,
what's
really
helpful
is
if
we
had
city
council
helping
us
make
the
choice
of
what
to
to
purchase
in
terms
of
of
the
types
of
decorations?
We've
tried
this
a
few
times
in
the
past,
and
we
didn't
have
unanimous
agreement,
so
I
think
I'm
going
to
need
at
least
a
liaison
to
help
without.
A
D
G
You
know
we
should
probably
have
joy
brown
Meredith
and
on
that
as
well.
You
know
just
you
know,
we
want
to
get
some
downtown
input
as
well.
You
know,
and
obviously
we'll
get
a
lot
of
community
input,
but
the
joys
couldn't
gathering
the
merchants
and
I
will
include
lanes.
Job
yeah
I
want
it
to
go,
I
want
it
today.
D
A
A
M
You,
mayor
and
council,
as
noted
in
the
staff
report,
there's
been
a
lot
of
progress
made
with
the
design
of
the
new
downtown
park.
As
a
reminder,
this
council
established
a
formal
subcommittee
represented
by
Mayor
Pro
Tem
Robertson,
councilmember
holstege,
as
well
as
the
members
of
various
commissions,
and
that
committee
has
had
several
meetings
where
we
reviewed
the
design
development
drawings
for
the
downtown
park.
M
M
Shown
here
near
the
restrooms,
the
idea
was
to
provide
basically
to
replace
the
space
they
have
on
Indian
Canyon
Drive.
So
the
scope
of
the
contract
with
rios
clemente
house
studios
was
essentially
a
single
space
room
and
a
rest
room
for
the
police
department,
and
that
was
basically
a
conceptual
floor
plan
in
reviewing
what
the
police
department
requires.
M
Long
range
for
the
downtown
and
that
side
in
that
area
of
Palm
Springs,
they
evaluated
their
space
needs
and
determined
that
actually
they
need
a
little
more
space
and
to
be
a
little
more
independent
and
fully
functioning
separate
from
the
police
station
down
here
by
City
Hall.
What's
before
you
now
is
a
slightly
enlarged
floorplan,
with
additional
space
needs
that
they've
identified
with
some
storage
of
equipment
located
in
the
adjacent
garage
and
that's
a
enlarged
floor
plan
of
what
that
looks
like.
M
So
this
is
beyond
the
scope
of
what
was
in
or
the
original
design
contract
with
Rios
Clemente
Hale.
It
involves
doing
interior
fit
out
some
some
offices,
additional
storage
and
other
areas
that
need
to
be
fully
designed
in
an
effort
to
make
sure
we
move
forward
and
get
the
design
completed,
because
they've
come
they've
commenced
on
the
actual
construction
drawings
and
are
scheduled
to
have
that
completed
by
the
end
of
the
year
or
certainly
thereafter.
M
We
would
need
to
have
counsel
consider
an
amendment
to
their
contract
to
include
the
additional
architectural
and
design
services
related
to
this
work.
I
know
the
police
chief
is
here
and
he's
been
involved
with
this
discussion
and
can
offer
some
insight
into
the
the
the
background
and
for
the
need
for
this
additional
space.
But
we
would
recommend
your
consideration
of
the
item,
so
we
can
get
the
construction
drawings
completed
and
move
into
bidding
this
in
the
spring
of
next
year.
With
that
mr.
mayor
I'll
turn
it
to
you.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
G
Thank
You
mayor,
so
Councilwoman,
holstege
and
I
obviously
met
for
the
ad
hoc
committee
on
this
issue
for
the
downtown
Park
and
the
police
department
now
I
know
is.
Is
this
the
I
guess
this
is
the
final
iteration
Marcus?
This
is,
and
this
is
I
guess
a
pared
down
version
right,
a
reduced
size,
okay.
So
this
is
excellent.
G
Mr.
Cole,
you
and
I
had
exchanged
emails,
because
I
was
a
little
taken
back
by
what
Clemente
Rios
Clemente
Hale
was
charging
for
their
up
charge
and
you
were
gonna
look
into
that
and
I
wondered
if
you
could,
if
you
would
either
been
able
to
negotiate
something
different
or
find
out
why
this
number
was
so
high
because
it
seemed
like
a
relatively
minor
adjustment
to
the
plan
in
terms
of
their
workload
and
$85,000
seem
like
a
lot
to
me.
I.
M
Did
and
I
did
prevail
and
have
them
reduce
their
fee
somewhat,
but
that
was
before
I
realized
that
they
were
excluding
the
interior
fit-out,
essentially
all
of
the
design
and
architectural
to
identify
the
interior
finishes
and
and
and
build
out
of
the
space.
And
so
most
of
this
is
a
sub
consultant
work,
so
they
have
MEP
work
mechanical
electrical
plumbing
that
was
envisioned
in
the
original
space.
M
G
Again,
I'm
still
struggling
with
this,
because
this
space
was
already
designed
with
respect
to
engineering.
It
couldn't
be
that
different
and
I
and
I'm
not
beating
you
up
about
this
I'm
still
struggling
with
why
this
has
become
so
expensive
when
all
we've
really
done
is
adjusted
the
size
of
an
existing
room
and
yeah
I
understand
that
they
needed
to
do
an
interior
layout,
which
would
take
a
first-year
draftsman
about
an
hour
to
do
so.
I'm
a
little
surprised
still
by.
M
You
know
to
be
honest
with
you,
it's
hard
for
me
to
judge
that,
because
I
rely
on
them
as
professionals
to
tell
me
what
it
takes
to
get
these
projects
done.
I
I,
can't
I,
don't
have
a
weight
gauge
that
they
need
100
hours
versus
200
hours
when
they
come
up
with
our
fee
estimate.
I
mean
this
is
a
little
bit
different
than
what
was
original
scope
because
they
do
have
to
do
full
a
full
set
of
building
plans
for
what
is
now
a
space
with
multiple
rooms.
M
But,
like
I
said
it
involves
multiple
rooms.
So
it's
a
it's
a
lot
more
detail
and
a
lot
more
information
in
the
construction
drawings
for
the
building
itself,
the
buildings
a
little
bit
larger
but
I
think
it's
the
interior
of
the
building.
That's
dictating
the
additional
scope
of
work.
The
effort
that's
required
in
order
to
have
construction
drawings
to
build
it.
Okay,.
G
I
just
want
to
say,
for
the
record:
I
want
to
have
a
talk
with
them:
I'm
a
little
worried
about
these
costs.
As
you
know,
I
expected
that
the
costs
of
the
park
to
rise,
there's
just
that
happens
and
as
we
figure
out
our
needs
and
we
adjust
our
program,
and
in
this
case
you
know
we're
adding
an
important
city
service
work.
Basically
adding
another
police
station
downtown
that
we
didn't
plan
on
so
I
understand
that
and
we
need
it.
G
H
G
C
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
I'm,
also
having
a
hard
time
with
the
cost
and
the
scope
of
this
project.
I'm
just
increasing
this.
So
so
what
has
happened-
and
we
definitely
want
to
include
and
hear
from
our
police
department
and
I-
think
we
want
a
hat
talk
about
the
strategy
of
having
a
police
or
police
substation
downtown
in
the
designer
in
their
defense.
We
did
ask
them.
C
They
were
on
a
hundred
percent
design
completion
with
a
seven
hundred
square
foot
police
substation,
and
then
we
came
actually
after
the
hundred
percent
design
and
in
consultation
with
the
police
department.
The
need
is
now
at
1,400
square
feet,
which
is
a
big
increase
to
where
we
were
I.
Have
this
really
fun
job
of
helping
guide
and
design
a
park
while
I'm
coming
into
the
middle
of
it?
So
you
know
I
see
their
their
position
where
now
we're
asking
for
a
building.
That's
now
double
in
size.
C
C
So
for
my
councilmembers
who
aren't
on
the
subcommittee
with
us,
that's
what
we
were
talking
about
is
having
this
beautiful
sort
of
rock
wall,
that's
mimics,
tahquitz
canyon,
x'
and
the
and
the
rocks
that
we
have
the
natural
rocks
and
so
I'm
concerned
about
the
costs
increasing
for
this
substation
as
well
having
a
doubly
large
footprint
and
so
I
think.
That's
just
a
conversation
for
us
to
have
about
our
plan,
and
you
know
our
long-term
plan
for
having.
Obviously,
we
need
lots
of
police
officers
downtown.
They
need
a
good
station.
C
They
need
a
good
substation
there,
but
I
am
worried
about
just
this
is
just
to
increase
the
design
to
redo
the
design.
So
what
are
the
costs?
Gonna
be
for
increasing
that
footprint
for
the
park
overall,
and
we
are
getting
at
a
point
where
it,
the
cost
cost
of
the
park,
is
increasing
it's
more
expensive
to
build
things
now
so
I.
G
And
we
need
to
have
that
discussion
with
you
doctor,
ready
with
respect
to
budget
we've
jumped
up
quite
a
bit
and
I
I,
don't
know
where
we
are
with
that
I
know.
We
had
allocated
a
certain
amount
of
funds
and
you
had
also
gone
and
found
some
additional
funds,
but
is
that
a
discussion
we
need
to
be
having
as
well
sooner
than
later,.
D
M
G
So
it's
a
stanshall
increase
in
price.
So
as
long
as
that's
tracking,
we
just
need
to
know
when
we
get
to
a
point
where
we're
hitting
a
wall
financially
on
it.
I
mean
it.
Frankly,
in
the
big
scheme
of
things,
it
still
sounds
reasonable
for
what
we're
getting
or
getting
a
new
police
station
and
we're
getting
a
new
Park
for
you
know
7.2
million
dollars
and
that's
pretty
good.
If
we
can
keep
it
there.
A
F
A
G
I,
don't
know
that
we
need
to
do
that.
Christie
I,
don't
know
whether
we
need
to
table
unless
you
do
I,
we
can
move
forward.
I,
just
I
do
want
to
have
a
discussion
with
them
about
money
and
increase
costs.
Kind
of
let
them
know
that
we're
kind
of
hitting
the
wall
now
but
I'm
ready
to
move
forward
with
this.
If
my
colleagues
agree.
C
We
have
a
beautiful
timeline
here
on
page
six,
and
even
this
is
putting
us
one
month,
we'll
see
probably
longer
behind
our
timeline.
We've
been
really
clear
with
everyone
that
we
want
to
stick
to
the
timeline.
I
do
think
it's
a
conversation
which
is
quite
large
of
what
size
substation
can
we
afford
there
and
what
do
we
want?
C
I
haven't,
unfortunately,
had
the
opportunity
to
talk
to
the
police
chief
in
the
police
department
myself,
so
I
haven't
been
able
to
make
that
you
know
determination
for
it,
but
I
am
nervous
just
in
the
increasing
costs
and
seeing
here
that
we
still
need
additional
money
to
pay
for
this.
Oh
there's.
N
Good
evening,
mayor
council,
yes,
this
has
been
in
the
consult
to
consulting
with
the
police
department.
My
staff
and
the
reality
is
this
event.
Spaces
can
draw
a
significant
crowd
with
ongoing
events,
if
there's
ever
an
opportunity
to
to
get
what
we
need.
Now,
it's
probably
now
expanding
the
future
is
probably
not
likely
after
it's
built
out
and
I
can
I
can
discuss.
N
Two
key
things
is
visibility
of
officers,
especially
with
an
event
space
downtown,
the
underground
parking
and
the
potential
of
drinking
in
cars
prior
to
going
to
an
event
to
have
the
availability
of
an
officer's
to
respond
immediately.
Should
there
be
large
fights
or
protests,
we
store
riot
gear.
We
operate
out
of
that
facility
and
not
respond
from
the
station.
N
Responding
in
a
timely
manner
is
critical.
One
example
is
a
pulse
nightclub
in
Florida
I've,
attended
an
executive
debrief
on
that
on
that
incident
and
that
suspect
actually
drove
up
and
down
their
entertainment
district.
They
have
80
officers
on
over
time
visible
on
every
corner.
He
chose
not
to
attack
there.
He
chose
the
pulse
nightclub
because
the
lack
of
visibility
on
officers,
one
person
killed
49
50
people,
so
the
availability
for
officers
to
respond
to
that
event.
N
Space
immediately
is
critical
and
that's
what
we
took
in
consideration
in
regards
to
having
available
space
to
not
only
respond
immediately,
but
also
to
address
crime
when
it
does
occur.
For
example,
the
recent
incident
that
occurred
within
the
past
month,
where
someone
subject
went
downtown
with
a
fogger
of
bear
spray
affected
nine
to
ten
people.
This
gives
us
the
ability
to
draw
all
those
victims
in
an
isolated
location
and
address
that
overall
crime
and
not
be
spaced
out
and
deal
with
any
level
of
crime.
Thank.
G
N
G
If
we
chief,
if
we
felt
that
I
know,
we
talked
about
this
in
committee,
if
he,
if
we
felt
that
you
needed
some
expansion,
we
could
always
move
into
the
garage
for
that
at
some
point.
If
for
storage
and
other
things
correct
absolutely
so
we
do
have
the
ability
to
expand
once
all
those
new
businesses
are
open
or
we
start
to
find
that
we're
doing
very
large
events
there
and
you
need
more
down
there.
Yes,
okay,
thank
you.
So
much.
C
Question,
do
you
know,
and
you
might
not
know,
maybe
someone
on
staff
does,
but
because
that's
my
concern
is
the
ability
to
really
expand
this
type
of
substation.
That's
gonna,
be
in
a
rock
wall
and
just
isn't
I
mean
it'd,
be
nice
to
build
you
a
huge
facility
downtown.
That's
not
you
know
in
this
rock
wall
and
which
is
a
beautiful
design,
but
doesn't
seem
good
for
expanding
later
for
a
full
downtown
station.
So
it
is
it
your
sense
that
there
is
a
good
deal
of
room
to
expand
into
the
future
in
that
garage.
Yes,.
N
D
M
G
Came
up
in
our
subcommittee
as
an
option
for
them
and
I'm
glad
to
see
they
took
it.
I
know,
you
know
they
need
bikes
and
other
equipment
and
I
guess
what
I
was
more
asking
is.
If
we
could
expand
directly
behind
the
station,
should
we
need
it
for
even
more
offices,
and
it
looks
like
we
still
have
plenty
of
room
to
do
that
if.
F
A
A
M
You,
mayor
and
council,
this
item
is
to
allow
you
to
look
consider
a
preliminary
landscape
plan
along
the
golf
course
as
you.
As
you
know,
this
follows
up
on
council
direction,
given
earlier
this
year,
when
you
authorized
us
to
move
forward
to
remove
some
trees
along
the
golf
course
I've
included
in
your
staff
report.
Some
recent
photos,
which
show
the
area
in
question
the
area
has
been
researched
by
century
golf,
and
so
at
this
point
the
idea
would
be
to
replicate
the
landscaping.
M
That's
on
the
west
side
of
the
fairways,
with
similar
landscape
treatment,
which
is
really
simple.
It's
palm
trees
and
pine
trees,
and
so
the
landscape
plan.
That's
noted
in
your
included
in
your
staff
report,
basically
replicates
that
landscape
treatment.
We
estimate
the
cost
of
this
would
be
under
a
hundred
thousand
and
we
would
request
your
direction
tonight.
M
If
it's
your
direction
that
this
landscape
plan
meets
your
meets
your
approval,
then
we
could
coordinate
with
century
golf
to
essentially
do
their
own
bidding
like
they
did
the
tree
removals
and
then
coordinate
with
us,
and
then
they
could
coordinate
that
work
themselves.
So
with
that,
where
we
welcome
your
your
comments,
thank
you.
Thank.
F
Thank
you.
I
was
one
of
those
who
originally
thought
that
what
was
on
the
west
side
of
the
fairway
should
be
replicated
on
the
east
side
of
the
fairway.
Some
I'm
very
pleased
with
what
I'm,
seeing
here
and
in
your
plans,
can
you
tell
me,
has
there
been
any
outreach
to
either
the
mountain
shadows
or
the
Lawrence
Crossley
neighborhoods?
With
regard
to
these
preliminary
plans,
there.
M
F
Identified
this
as
preliminary
so
I'm
I'm.
Assuming
from
that
that
there
is
still
some
flexibility.
If
on
discussion
with
the
two
neighborhoods,
you
find
that
there
are
things
that
could
be
adjusted
or
should
be
adjusted
to
to
work
with.
The
neighborhood's
is:
is
that
correct?
Yes,
okay
and
I'm,
very
supportive
of
this,
but
I
do
believe
that
we
should
reach
out
to
both
the
Lawrence
Crossley
and
mountain
shadows,
neighborhood
neighbors,
to
hold
meetings
with
them
and
review
these
plans
and
move
forward
as
quickly
as
we
can.
F
M
G
The
mayor
and
I
are
I,
guess,
ad
hoc
on
this.
My
question
to
you
is
in
reaching
out
to
the
neighborhood's:
do
we
want
century
golf
to
do
that?
Do
you
want
to
do
another
public,
a
little
public
forum
for
the
neighborhoods?
How
would
you
like
to
move
forward
on
this
because
it
seems
to
me
the
last
piece
of
this
is
just
getting
neighborhood
input
right.
M
G
C
You
mr.
mayor
I
just
wanted
to
thank
our
staff
and
the
subcommittee
for
working
so
hard
on
this
and
I
know.
I
actually
think
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
community
feedback
about
the
landscape,
I
keep
a
folder
and
my
email
of
every
single
topic
and
this
one,
the
tamra's
trees,
definitely
has
the
most
and
I
heard
a
lot
of
feedback
that
they
that
people
wanted
similar
the
same
landscaping
on
each
side,
so
I'm
glad
you're
doing
that
community
outreach
I
do
think.
C
We've
heard
a
lot
about
what
people
wanted,
and
one
thing
they
wanted
is
to
do
this
quickly,
so
I
think
as
quickly
as
we
as
we
can
get.
This
would
be
great
for
the
the
community
and
I
just
have
a
question
Marcus
in
the
landscape
plan,
because
I
remember
when
I
walked
the
timorous
trees
and
I
did
it
with
century
golf
and
they
told
us
actually,
the
mayor
and
I
did
that
and
they
told
us
that
people
swing
more.
The
balls
go
more
to
that
side.
So
did
the
landscape
architect?
C
C
A
G
Thank
you.
Mary
wanted
to
very
specifically
respond
to
the
issue
of
errant
golf
balls.
So
when
we
met
on
both
occasions
with
the
neighborhood,
it
was
made
very
clear
to
them
very
by
staff
and
the
mayor
and
myself
that
they
would
now
lose
the
protection
that
they
once
had
that
those
trees
essentially
were
planted.
G
For
that
reason,
and
that
short
of
doing
a
wall
or
a
screen
or
a
net
there,
they
were
now
going
to
be
subjected
to
some
golf
balls
coming
in
and
if
we
are
to
do
what
we
promised,
we
would
do,
which
is
kind
of
replicate:
the
landscape.
On
the
east
side,
that's
on
the
west
side
that
provides
very,
very
little
protection.
G
So
I
just
wanted
to
restate
that,
because
unless
we
go
to
a
very
thick
planting
or
a
wall,
we
don't
want
to
send
any
false
messages
that
there's
any
protection
there.
It's
it's.
The
price
you
pay
for
living
on
a
beautiful
golf
courses
enjoy
is
that
you're
susceptible
to
getting
a
ball
or
two
or
four
or
a
hundred
in
your
yard.
My
friends,
who
have
owned
golf
balls
and
have
buckets
of
balls
that
they
collect
but
I,
think
we
made
it
very
clear
to
the
neighborhood
that
this
was.
G
A
And
and
I
also
recall,
when
we
did
that
tour,
the
people
giving
us
the
tour
were
very
much
in
favor
of
leaving
the
tamarisk
trees
there,
so
they
you
know
they
also
had
a
interest
and
in
keeping
them
there.
So
you
know,
okay
to
have
any
discussion.
We
have
a
motion
to
approve
I
should
approve
me
about
councillor
milton
second
by
councillor.
Holsters
motion
is
on
the
floor.
A
D
You
mayor
members
of
council
Menino,
we
are
currently
negotiating
with
all
six
bargaining
units
of
our
employee
associations.
Our
personnel
director
Perry
Madison,
along
with
our
our
attorney
labor
attorney,
are
doing
their
negotiations.
Let's
before
you
this
evening
is,
is
the
first
agreement
that
we
have
of
reached,
and
this
is
with
the
Management
Association
and
the
Management
Association
I
would
just
note
they
are
not
the
department
heads
it's.
D
The
level
of
professional
employees
below
the
department
head
level,
and
so
what's
before
you
this
evening,
is
what
we
believe
is
a
fair,
a
fair
recommendation
in
the
contract.
Basically,
it's
a
3-year
agreement
that
gives
salary
increases
of
2.5
percent
per
year,
which
and
those
amounts
roughly
are
about
250,000,
roughly
there
abouts
in
each
of
the
years.
That
being
said,
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions
and
personnel
director
is
here
as
well.
If
you
have
any
questions
directed
at
him,
Thank
You
mayor,
thank.
A
D
Members
of
council
last
reading
you'd
asked
us
to
actually
agendize
this
as
a
discussion
item
of
upcoming
meeting,
so
in
in
your
yellow
folders,
we
have
an
updated
tentative
meeting
scheduled
and
what
we've
did
to
update
it.
You
will
see
in
bold
and
met
with
staff,
and
we
went
through
these
one
by
one
and
came
up
with
what
we
thought
would
be
a
reasonable
time
frame
so
for
your
discussion
purposes
this
evening,
we're
recommending
the
time
frames
for
some
of
these
items.
D
A
Thank
you,
I
remember.
A
few
weeks
ago,
Gantz
member
holstege
brought
up
the
question
of
the
scooters,
lime
and
bird
or
whatever
they're
called,
and
the
staff
is
going
to
do
some
research
on
this
to
see
what
other
cities
have
been
doing
on
those
scooters.
So
can
we
try
to
agenda
eyes
that,
sometime
in
the
in
the
relatively
near
future,.
G
D
G
We
should
be
proactive
in
that
I'm
seeing
I.
You
know
in
my
travels
I've
seen
a
lot
of
it
and
I
spoke
to
some
other
cities
as
well.
There's
very
mixed
results
with
these
scooters,
and
apparently
some
cities
wish
they
hadn't
done
it
and
I
think
that
maybe
we
should
have
a
bigger
community
discussion
on
this,
because
there's
the
potential
for
bikes,
lime,
there's
so
many
on
these
on
these
shared
little
transportation
choices.
So.
D
And
in
Mayor
Pro
Tem,
Roberts
I
would
just
note
that
I
just
was
at
the
annual
city
manager's
conference
in
a
city
that
that
had
these
and
it
was
quite
amusing
to
see
3,000
city
managers
that
was
their
mode
of
transportation
around
the
city
on
scooters.
We
just
note
that
was
it
was.
It
was
an
eye-opening
experience
and
it
was
interesting.
D-Doc.
D
A
A
What
I'm
recommending
is
like
a
council
discussion
based
on
a
staff
report,
and
then
we
can
decide
whether
we
want
to
move
forward
with
an
actual
ordinance.
The
other
item
I
wanted
to
bring
up
was
we've.
We
had
some
discussion
some
time
ago.
In
fact
it
was
in
the
paper
or
we
had
a
discussion
on
pickleball
courts.
How
are
we
doing
on
getting
that?
Coming
from
the
parks
and
recs,
with
some
recommendations
on
what
to
do
with
those
mayor.
D
That
that
is
is
dovetails
nicely
into
the
whole
capital
project
because
of
the
expense
there.
So
so
two
things
I
would
recommend
one.
We
need
to
check
back
in
with
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Commission
to
see
what
their
recommendation
is
and
then
also
swing
into
the
the
discussion
on
the
capital
improvements.
So
the
combination
of
those
two
I
think
we'd
be
able
to
come
back
to
Council,
then
with
what
that
recommendation
would
be.
Okay,.
A
Another
item
of
Mayor
Burton
I,
should
have
asked
you
about
this
before
and
I
forgot
to
I
think
we
have
a.
We
scheduled
a
council
discussion
on
the
recommendations
on
the
plaza
theater
because
we
haven't
given
those
results
to
the
council
yet
and
then
Mayor
Pro,
Tem
and
I
can
work
on
trying
to
set
up
a
town
hall
meeting
to
present
that
to
the
public.
But
we
need
to
have
a
discussion
with
the
council.
First
I.
G
I
second,
that
request
and
just
for
the
benefit
of
the
council.
We
thought
that
well,
we
know
that
we're
going
to
need
community
help
with
this
one.
This
is
going
to
this
is
going
to
be
a
project
that
will
only
work
if
the
community
holds
hands
for
this,
so
we'll
we'll
bring
what
we
have
found,
which
is
pretty
eye-opening
through
the
analysis,
so
that
we've
done,
but
we
want
to
do
a
full
fledge
public
forum,
at
least
the
mayor
and
I
do
on
this
one
issue
to
see
what
we
can
do
about
it.
C
C
So
though
it
is
a
hot-button
topic
and
I
follow
it
quite
closely
because
my
brother-in-law
lives
in
Santa,
Monica
and
uses
bird
and
and
my
friends
in
San
Francisco,
but
I
do
think
you
know
as
it's
coming
to
a
lot
of
cities,
they
haven't
come
to
Palm
Springs,
at
least
for
ten
years.
A
lot
of
these
companies,
but
we
should
know
sort
of
I
would
like
to
know
information
about
what
they're
doing,
because
my
understanding
is
that
they're
not
getting
permission
from
cities
when
they
start
to
operate
and
they're
just
sort
of
starting.
C
It's
like
this
Airbnb.
You
know
uber
and
lyft
kind
of
model
of
just
just
starting
up,
so
that
would
be
helpful
to
have
information
about
what
we
can
do.
I,
don't
know
what
type
of
outreach
we
want.
What
our
community
wants,
I've
gotten
some
emails
about
it,
but
I
do
think.
It's
important
to
have
a
discussion
item
on
that.
This.
C
That's
a
good
idea.
My
main
question
that
I
always
raise
is
just
the
timeline
for
a
general
plan
and
zoning
code
updates.
I,
think
that
is
a
long
term
big
project
that
I
would
like
us
to
have
a
timeline
on
so
that
we
know
because,
as
we
know,
we
keep
adding
things
to
your
plate
and
making
this
list
longer
every
single
week
and
I
think
that's
a
huge
priority
for
us
and
you.
D
Know
and
the
councilmember
I'd
liked
is,
you
can
see
under
the
the
PDD
ordinance
and
the
other
planning
improve
a
review
of
planning
process
917
that
you're
going
to
be
part
part
of
that
Flynn.
Could
you
just
update
us
there's
a
process
you
wanted
to
go
through
matriculating
through
the
Planning
Commission
I.
Don't
know
if
you
could
add
any
additional
information,
at
least
this
evening
on
these
items,
as
certainly
I'd.
L
Be
happy
to
dr.
Reddy.
What
we
are
in
the
process
of
doing
right
now
is,
as
you'll
recall,
there's
work
plan
for
implementing
the
recommendations
of
the
ad
hoc,
PDD
subcommittee
or
planned
development
district
subcommittee.
We
have
those
in
process
through
Planning
Commission
right
now,
once
we
have
those
forwarded
to
City,
Council
I
think
we'll
be
in
a
position
to
start
work
on
general
plan
amendments
and
making
revisions
to
our
zoning
to
be
consistent
with
the
general
plan.
So
there's
a
number
of
projects
that
we
have
to
get
through
the
approval
process.
D
A
Add
to
that
dr.
berty
when
we
had
this
discussion
a
year
or
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
I
think
the
discussion
was
a
general
plan
should
be
updated
every
10
years
and
we're
a
little
bit
past.
That
now
correct
yes,
and
but
you
also
had
said
at
that
time
that
you
could
expected
the
cost
and
do
a
general
plan
update
would
probably
be
in
the
neighborhood
of
a
million
dollars
correct.
So
you
know
the
discussion
would
be
good
to
have
early.
So
we
could
look
at
budgeting
it
because
that's
a
big
budget
item
right.
C
K
Thank
You
mayor
so
for
the
October
17th
meeting.
Third,
one
from
the
bottom,
the
orbit
ordinance
prohibiting
demolition
of
class,
three
structures,
so
wanna
make
sure
we
have
the
ad
hoc
subcommittee,
which
is
Mayor,
Pro,
Tem,
Minh,
Roberts
and
I,
and
the
members
of
the
subcommittee
from
HSP
the
meet
to
actually
review
it.
Before
we
have
a
staff
report
in
it
comes
to
Council,
which.
K
A
K
L
Mayor,
if
I
might
respond
to
that,
please,
the
Historic
Site
Preservation
Board
will
be
considering
a
draft
ordinance
at
its
meeting
next
week.
In
fact,
that's
what
I'm
working
on
here
at
the
counseling
meeting
as
I'm
double
tasking,
but
we
will
once
the
Historic
Site
Preservation
Board
has
a
chance
to
review
that.
We
will
then
get
the
City
Council
subcommittee
and
the
HSB
B
subcommittee
together
to
go
through
the
draft
ordinance
before
we
bring
it
formally
to
City
Council
at
a
public
hearing
and.
I
There
may
be
a
little
bit
of
confusion,
work
we're
coming
back,
I
know
for
a
fact,
because
I'm
working
on
the
item
with
the
moratorium
for
ten
months
and
15
days,
that's
a
public
hearing
item
that
will
be
taking
place.
It'll
be
presented
to
the
council.
There
was
a
consent
calendar
item
tonight
in
relation
to
that.
K
K
L
K
K
We've
talked
about
it
at
economic
development
several
times,
I
think
what
would
be
most
useful
on
this
would
be
if
we
can
get
the
draft
which
I
know
is
being
worked
on
and
then
councilman
Burton,
holstege
and
I
can
deal
with
it
as
a
subcommittee
and
with
the
stakeholders
and
then
bring
it
forward
to
Council.
That
timing
could
work,
but
if
we
can
get
the
draft
pretty
quick,
if
not,
that
may
need
to
be
December,
because
we
want
to
have
time
to
do
those
meetings
so
on
6,
&,
7,
vacation
rental,
ordinance,
update
and
cannabis.
K
Ordinance
update
we
after
here,
but
in
both
of
those
I,
think
we
just
sit
down
and
we
can
just
email
with
the
city
manager,
city
attorney,
Mayor,
Pro,
Tem,
Roberts
and
I
for
the
date
of
the
meetings
that
need
to
lead
up
to
that.
Yes
right,
the
standing
subcommittee
meetings,
the
meetings
with
stakeholders
I
think
those
dates
are
both
workable
I
think
we
need
to
move
on
both
of
those
but
I.
K
K
It
well,
what
would
be
really
helpful
is
when
you
have
the
draft
based
on
the
direction
from
our
prior
meeting
again,
we
want
to
go
and
take
it
out
to
the
stakeholders.
So
December
works
just
fine,
but
we
need
to
if
you
can
get
us
a
draft
in
the
next
two
weeks.
That'll
give
us
time
to
set
up
those
meetings.
K
That
would
be
very
helpful
and
the
last
thing
is
just
I
think
we
were
changing
the
date
of
the
CVRA.
Only
meeting
on
the
maps
to
Thursday
October
18th,
because
Tuesday
October
16th
was
the
chamber
taste
of
Palm
Springs
event
that
draws
a
lot
of
people
and
the
business
folks
want
to
be
able
to
come
to
the
meeting
when
we
narrow
down
the
maps.
K
D
A
K
K
F
Do
we
all
do
number
14
improvement
for
trailhead
parking?
We've
got
that
moved
back
to
2019,
but
by
2019
we
will
be
well
into
the
hiking
season
and
we
will
be
dealing
with
quite
a
few
complaints
once
again
from
residents
in
and
around
the
trailhead.
So
if
there
is
any
way
to
move
that
up
on
the
edge
our
priorities,
I
would
appreciate
us
being
able
to
do
that
and.
D
If
I
could
comment
on
that
council
person,
if
it's
a
sort
of
a
complicated
sort
of
a
complicated
issue
of
trying
to
find
and
replace
parking,
and
so
we
just
didn't
think
we
could
probably
do
it
over
the
next
couple
months.
That
being
said,
we
can
look
to
early
nineteen,
it's
partly
just
to
issue
that
it's
complex,
we're
not
exactly
sure
what
the
answers
are
and
we're
gonna
have
to
engage.
Some
I
think
some
significant
technical
assistance
to
get
there.
So
why
don't
we
do
this?
Why
don't
we
we'll
come
back
at
the
next
meeting?
D
F
Would
appreciate
that
and
if
we
can,
while
we
are
working
on
this,
look
at
some
temporary
measures
to
make
it
clear
where
people
can
and
cannot
park,
particularly
at
the
trailhead
there
in
off
of
Ramon,
which
I
think
is
one
of
the
most
problematic
that
we
have.
It
is
certainly
not
the
only
problematic
trailhead
that
we
have.
The
one
in
Arabi
also
gets
a
fair
number
of
complaints,
but
Ramon
seems
to
lead
the
list
and
complaints.
F
Glad
that
we're
moving
forward
on
scooters
and
shared
bikes
and
all
of
that
I
think
that
really
does
need
to
be
a
full
conversation
with
our
community,
because
we
are
going
to
have
some
very
strong
differences
of
opinion
within
the
community
regarding,
what's
the
appropriate
way
to
move
forward
on
shared
scooters
and
shared
bicycles,
last
thing,
I
have
and
I
see.
We
have
something
here
on
the
library
remodel,
project,
councilmember,
holstege
and
I
are
the
library
subcommittee.
A
F
A
D
F
Is
the
action
the
moratorium
as
I,
intend
it
is
to
just
hold
in
place
what
exists
until
we
get
to
the
discussion
of
what
should
be
our
ordinances
related
to
golf
course,
conversions.
So
what
I'm,
proposing
in
terms
of
a
joint
meeting
will
be
to
discuss
the
actual
substance
of
a
golf
course.
Conversion
ordinance.
F
Lastly,
we
have
a
special
meeting
of
the
CVRA
scheduled
for
Tuesday
October
16,
but
it's
been
brought
to
our
attention
that
the
evening
of
the
16th
is
taste
of
Palm
Springs,
the
Chamber
of
Commerce's
annual
big
event.
We
will
have
an
awful
lot
of
people
who
would
much
prefer
to
be
at
Taste
of
Palm
Springs.
So
I
would
like
to
see
us
move
that
meeting
of
October
16
to
a
special
meeting
on
October,
18
and
I
was
the
one
who
was
conflicted
on
the
18th
and
I
have
removed
my
conflict
done
as.
C
Have
a
question
about
that?
I
personally
would
very
much
like
to
attend
taste
of
Palm
Springs.
Now
I
can
do
both,
though
I
do
have
a
conflict
on
the
18th.
That
I
would
have
to
move,
which
I'm
happy
to
do
right
for
the
California
Voting
Rights
Act
work
that
we're
doing.
But
where
are
these
dates
posted?
C
Aren't
they
posted
everywhere
and
haven't
we
been
giving
them
out
so
is
there
any
concern
the
subcommittee's
been
doing
that,
and
my
second
question
is:
how
firm
are
these
dates
for
us,
because
it's
we
are
very
went
above
and
beyond,
to
set
all
these
extra
meetings,
which
is
great,
I,
think
it's
important
I
know
the
schedules
laid
out,
but
my
question
is
how
how
set
in
stone
are.
These
dates?
Are
people
going
to
show
up
on
the
16th?
Can
we
consolidate
some
of
these
meetings
so.
K
C
K
Will
include
the
the
next
we're
planning
three
more,
so
the
subcommittee
met
today
this
morning
long
time
ago,
so
we're
gonna
have
three
more.
We
don't
have
we're
working
on
the
dates
for
those
where
there
would
be
three
more
community
forums.
Once
the
council
narrows
down
the
maps
on
the
18th
before
we
then
have
to
pick
a
map
in
November,
so
they're
gonna
be
a
whole
bunch
of
smaller
ones,
but
the
three
large
ones
are
the
ones
that
get
publicized.
Where
people
can
really
learn.
Ask
questions
there'll
be
big
blow.
K
K
You
mayor
I
really
want
to
go
first
cuz
I
was
gonna,
pick
the
two
that
no
one
else
went
to
and
then,
if
they
don't
cover
some
of
the
others,
I
can
go
back.
So
during
the
California
League
of
Cities
annual
conference,
of
which
Mayor
Pro
Tem
Roberts,
my
self
and
councilmember
Middleton
went
this
year
as
well
as
city
manager,
David,
Reddy,
city
attorney,
and
he
Kotkin
I,
don't
know
if
Anthony
went
to
his
part.
K
Aren't
it
was
there
a
separate
section
for
you,
or
so
you
went
to
that
as
well,
since
you
run
it
the
clerk's
part,
so
we
did
have
a
good
representation
there.
We
we
can't
really
share
with
each
other
what
we
learned
over
the
public
so
we're
gonna
do
very
short
reports.
The
two
I
went
to
that.
No
other
member
of
council
went
to
one
was
on
cannabis,
sort
of
where
we
are,
and
it
was
mostly
stuff.
K
We
know
you
know
issues
with
the
black-market
issues
with
taxation
issues,
with
compliance,
how
things
are
working,
what
the
state's
going
to
be
looking
at,
but
the
main
thing
I
think
that
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
on
was
San,
Diego
and
Los.
Angeles
have
done
a
major
effort
in
cracking
down
on
all
illegal
related
cannabis
activities
and
part
of
the
discussion
was
well.
K
Do
people
just
get
let
out
of
jail
right
away
now
for
that
anyway,
which
is
something
we
had
had
an
issue
with,
but
they
put
such
severe
fines
on
the
illegals,
I
think
San
Diego
is
like
forty
million
dollars
of
fine.
So
those
fines
closed
it
closed
them
down.
So
it's
not
necessarily
about
sending
someone
to
jail.
K
It's
about
stopping
the
illegal
activity,
so
I
think
would
be
really
helpful
and
the
cannabis
subcommittee
couldn't
talk
to
this
to
set
up
a
meeting
with
City
Attorney,
maybe
the
police
chief
to
really
talk
about
what
some
other
cities
are
doing,
and
you
know
enough
fines
they
have
to
close
down
and
so
just
to
be
creative,
because
the
illegals
are
hurting.
Our
licensed
permitted
dispensaries,
they're,
not
charging
taxes,
and
there
are
all
kinds
of
problems
with
them.
So
I
thought
that
was
really
useful
information
and
we
have
some
cities
that
are
doing
a
lot.
K
The
other
one
was
on
best
employment
practices
that
the
city,
manager
and
I
were
at
which
dealt
with
how
to
handle
employee
complaints,
especially
if
it's
against
one
of
us-
or
you
know
someone
like
the
city
manager,
where
there
are
clearly
conflicts
and
to
set
up
policies.
So
they're,
not
one
offs,
where
you're
figuring
out
how
to
do
an
investigation,
but
have
a
policy
in
place
to
do
outside
investigations
when
there
are
those
con
so
that
it's
not
necessary
to
come
before.
K
Council
potentially
have
share
an
employees
who
filed
the
complaint
and
to
really
do
it.
So
it's
just
automatic
when
those
happens
so
I
think
there's
some
really
good
information
and
we're
trying
to
set
up
an
ad
hoc,
Employment,
Practices
subcommittee,
to
talk
about
that
process.
So
we
can
actually
have
that
kind
of
policy
in
place.
So
those
are
the
only
two
I
think
I
was
the
only
one
at
so
if
there's
nothing
that
the
rest
of
covered
I'm
done,
Ezra.
A
F
Well,
I
got
to
go
to
a
few
one,
that
I
don't
think
anyone
else
attended
was
a
presentation
by
the
city
manager,
city
attorney
and
a
council
member
in
the
city
of
Beaumont,
and
it
dealt
with
the
crisis
that
occurred
in
their
city
and
some
of
the
lessons
that
were
learned
due
to
the
corruption
that
existed
within
that
city.
Some
takeaways
from
that
were
again
the
importance
of
citizen
involvement
and
citizen
monitoring
of
what
expenditures
are
being
paid.
It
truly
was
one
individual
who
truly
started
the
process
of
identifying
that
there
was
something
wrong.
F
F
There
was
a
critical
breakdown
and
separation
of
duties
when
it
came
to
contracting.
Excuse
me
contracting
and
payment
processes,
but
the
last
and
the
most
important
part
of
the
failure.
There
was
the
failure
of
the
city
council
to
provide
adequate
oversight
to
what
was
taking
place
within
their
city
to
ask
appropriate
questions
when
it
came
to
the
disbursement
of
money
and
the
processes
that
went
on
something
that
I
was
not
aware
until
the
meeting,
while
millions
of
dollars
were
misappropriated
and
and
taken
most
of
that
money
was
not
from
the
city
of
Beaumont.
F
Most
of
the
money
was
actually
money
that
came
from
the
Western
Riverside
County
organization
of
governments,
the
western
counties
version
of
sieve
AG,
and
it
was
money
for
transportation
projects
that
was
due
from
the
city
of
Beaumont
to
the
Western
Regional
Western,
Riverside,
County
organization
of
governments.
I
can't
say
that
very
fast,
but
Beaumont
at
one
time,
was
removed
by
a
vote
of
that
organization
because
of
their
failure
to
pay
money
that
was
due
to
the
organization
for
money
that
are
for
projects
that
took
place
within
their
city.
F
Second,
very
interesting
presentation
was
one
on
pensions.
It
was
an
extremely
detailed
review
of
legal
precedences
and
challenges
that
are
going
on
to
pension
systems.
We
all
hear
anecdotally
that
gee,
wouldn't
it
be
nice
if
we
move
to
some
different
type
of
pension
system,
but
when
you
look
at
what's
actually
taking
place
within
the
state
of
California,
these
legal
challenges
are
much
more
nuanced
and
what
is
being
challenged
frequently
our
questions
as
to
whether
or
not
employers
and
employee
organizations
have
the
ability
to
collectively
bargain
for
changes
in
pension
systems.
F
F
K
F
G
Thank
You
mayor,
so
I
attended
a
number
of
lectures
as
well,
and
the
one
that
stood
out
for
me
and
the
one
that
is
of
greatest
concern
with
respect
to
how
we
develop
in
the
future
is
its
its.
It
was
a
it
was
a
sequa
change
and
there's
a
there's
something
moving
through
the
state.
It's
it's
SB
743
and
it
will
in
Flint
I,
don't
know
how
familiar
you
are
with
this.
Yet
ELISA
and
I
both
attended
this
particular
session.
G
Many
of
our
local
colleagues-
and
it
was
a-
was
a
large
well
attended
session,
but
SB
743
would
have
a
significant
change
in
how
traffic
impacts
are
viewed
on
new
development
and
currently
how
we
look
at
traffic
with
respect
to
new
developments
is,
it
was
always
measured
on
a
level
of
service
level
of
service
can
mean
a
number
of
things,
but
traffic
impacts
is
a
big
part
of
that.
So,
in
other
words,
they
call
it
auto
delay.
G
We
call
it
traffic,
but
one
of
the
things
we
look
at
is
how
much
traffic
will
a
new
development
develop
or
create
in
a
certain
area
or
neighborhood
or
part
of
the
city,
and
it
was
very,
very
important
because
it
could
determine
the
viability
of
a
new
development
in
your
community
and
and
its
impacts,
and
and
what
SB
743
proposes
to
do
is
change
that
and
going
away
from
a
level
from
something
called
level
of
service
to
vehicle
miles.
Traveled
and
vehicle
miles.
G
Traveled
just
simply
means:
how
long
does
it
take
to
get
to
the
development
and
get
away
from
the
development,
and
this
is
of
great
concern,
because
this
could
open
up
a
tremendous
amount
of
more
opportunity
for
bigger
and
larger
developments
in
areas
without
paying
as
much
attention
to
their
impacts
on
where
they're
going
and
I
don't
know
exactly
where
this
is
in
the
process
right
now,
Flynn.
Are
you
familiar
with
us
at
all?
I
don't
mean
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
do
you
know
where
SB
743
is
at
this
particular
moment?
Yeah.
G
It's
something
that
we
as
a
city
need
to
pay
attention
to.
It
would
be
smart
at
the
community
as
much
as
they
can
pay
attention
to
these
sort
of
things,
because
we're
all
concerned
about
how
we
grow
and
the
type
of
development
that
we
have-
and
this
council
in
particular,
is
very
sensitive
to
the
impacts
of
growth,
not
only
here
in
Palm
Springs,
but
in
the
valley
and
this
one
change.
This
one
bill
could
have
significant
effect,
so
I
wanted
to
report
on
that
specifically
and
I'll
leave
others
to
other
reports.
G
G
G
K
G
A
There's
discussion:
okay,
next
public
comments
non
agenda
items
this
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
City
Council
on
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
city.
Although
the
City
Council
values
your
comments
pursuant
to
the
Brown
Act,
it
generally
cannot
take
any
action
on
item
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
Two
minutes
will
be
assigned
to
each
speaker.
Currently
we
have
three
speakers
in
Q
versus
Brad
Anderson,
followed
by
Alicia
Espinosa,
then
Allen
worthy
I.
O
K
O
Coachella
Valley
mosquito
and
Vector
Control
District
Allen
deal.
They
represent
your
city
and
the
whole
valley
really
and
I.
The
lack
of
transparency
from
that
organizations.
I
really
I
have
nothing
nice
to
say
about
that.
So
I'm
gonna
go
right
into
what
I
think
your
city
should
be
able
to
do
for
the
80s
gypped
I.
That's
going
on
right!
Now,
there's
a
it's
almost
epidemic.
It
really
is
it's
spread
through
this
valley.
It's
just
out
of
hand
and
I.
O
Think
as
a
city
I
know
that
doing
some
truck,
malice,
brain
and
and
I've
done
tests
on
the
aerial
spraying
with
the
vector
back
wdg
and
it
does
work
but
for
trucks
frame.
It's
it's
questionable.
I
haven't
done
the
test
on
that,
but
I'm
imagine
most
of
the
cars
parked
along
the
street.
I
really
get
the
dose
of
that,
but
and
I
don't
know
if
most
people
know
what
larvae
sighting
is.
O
Is
this
like
having
a
glass
or
a
glass
of
water
in
here
and
just
putting
pesticides
on
everything
just
to
get
that
glass
of
water?
So
it's
very
not
it's
not
officious
and
there's
better
ways
to
do
that,
but
and
I
think
as
a
city,
you
could
do
that
with
just
trapping
there's
specialized
trapping
for
this
type
of
mosquito,
and
you
can
use
that
and
of
course
education,
especially
with
the
rains.
I,
don't
forgot
rain
here,
but
in
India
was
just
downpour
and
so
empty
anything.
O
You
have
around
your
house
put
screening
on
drains
saucers
around
potted
plants,
a
big
deal.
You
know
spray
them
out
every
week.
You
don't
have
to
scrub
them,
but
frame
out
do
what
you
can
Stoll's
mosquitoes
out
to
catch
basins
and
retention
basins
where
this,
where
the
vector
control
can
get
them.
Thank
you
thank.
A
H
Evening
I
spoke
to
somebody
about
allocating
three
minutes:
okay,
good
evening.
My
name
is
Alicia
Espinosa
and
I'm,
a
resident
of
the
city
of
Moreno
Valley
I'm.
Here,
because
a
couple
of
council
meetings,
captain
David
call
of
works
addressed
the
mayor
being
approached-
have
been
council
members
of
Palm
Springs.
Regarding
some
allegations
of
Chad
Bianco,
making
some
anti-gay
allegations
at
a
meet
and
greet
that
took
place
in
Moreno
Valley.
He
was
not
invited
to
that
meeting
great.
However,
he
did
show
up.
H
Captain
Carla
wyx
was
the
supervisor
for
deputy
Kevin
Duffy,
who
sexually
molested
numerous
young
boys
in
the
city
of
Hemet
and
one
of
the
victims
Cody
a
12
year
old,
who
was
sexually
molested
by
Kevin
Duffy
in
a
RV
that
is
owned
by
the
Riverside
sheriffs.
He
took
him
in
there
and
pulled
down
his
underwear
and
I
know
that
Stan
sniff
failed
to
get
him
arrested.
H
Belted
you
procedure
protocol.
Anybody
else
would
have
been
arrested.
One
of
the
things
that
concerns
me
as
a
parent
is
that
I'm,
a
mother
when
a
child
is
taken
away.
His
innocence,
you
pretty
much
take
away
his
soul,
so
I
just
want
to
let
this
get
clear
that
Chad
Bianco
respected
David,
Crowe
loic's,
and
by
no
means
did
he
make
any
remarks
of
such
nature.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
Thank
You
mayor.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
O
Good
evening
mr.
Callen,
picking
up
where
we
left
off
and
from
two
weeks
ago,
I'm
still
waiting
to
hear
from
a
cop
I
need
police
reports
on
the
fraud
document
that
was
turned
into
you
that
was
submitted
and
committed
on
the
court
across
the
street.
I
had
a
conversation
with
the
DA's
office
yesterday
about
it
and
then
a
phone
call
back
from
Riverside
after
having
talked
to
Indio
I
also
have
Eisenhower
on
perjury
charges.
Mr.
Kotkin,
so
I
need
someone
to
address
those
things.
O
The
first
one
pertains
to
my
condo,
which
is
why
I
was
getting
the
car.
The
phone
calls
and
the
text
messages
to
beat
the
out
of
me
quote
unquote
for
some
strange
reason:
I
have
the
names
of
five
cops
here
that
don't
seem
to
think
that's
a
crime,
but
as
I
suspected
it
is
a
crime.
Penal
Code,
four
to
two.
O
Those
five
cops
are
sergeant:
Flynn,
Andre,
Beach,
Richard
the
dispatch
and
believe
it
or
not.
Sergeant
Stern's
went
round
and
round
that
that's
not
a
crime,
but
it
is
a
crime.
I
just
cited
the
penal
code
very
strange.
Now.
All
of
this
dates
back
to
the
initial
of
three
criminals
who
committed
these
crimes
elder
and
dependent
abuse,
identity
theft,
taking
excess
of
3.2
million
dollars
and
committing
aggravated
white-collar
crime.
O
Okay,
and
to
shut
me
up
about
it,
came
to
federal
offenses
of
Officer
Thomas
Becker.
So
it's
just
been
one
big
party.
Okay
may
I
have
the
name
tomorrow.
Mr.
Cochran
of
the
cop
who
did
package
this
case
against
the
pond
family.
Now,
no
doubt
the
pond
family's
more
wealthy
than
the
word,
the
Allen
families,
but
the
Allen
side
of
the
worthy
family
is
now
flat
broke.
Thanks
to
the
caregiver
and
his
co-conspirators.
Having
made
off
with
this
grand
larceny.
A
A
G
Okay,
so
you
know
we
don't
get
a
chance,
often
to
speak
with
our
subcommittees
about
ideas
we
might
have
on
the
things
they're
working
on,
and
you
know
I'm
so
impressed
with
what
the
city
is
doing
and
particularly
with
what
our
subcommittees
doing
with
respect
to
homeless
and
we're
making
real
inroads
Mike.
My
fear,
though,
is
that
it's
not
it's
not
publicized
enough.
G
What
we're
getting
done
so
I
find
that
in
pretty
much
all
of
my
conversations
with
the
general
public
and
very
often
when
I'm
out
with
friends,
the
conversation
will
go
to
the
homeless
issues
nationally,
but
certainly
how
it
affects
people
here
in
Palm,
Springs
and
I
try
to
relay
what
we're
doing
and
the
inroads
that
our
subcommittees
made
and
what
I
hear
consistently
is
that
people
would
like
to
do
more
for
the
homeless.
They
don't
know
exactly
what
to
do.
Most
people
aren't
going
to
be
comfortable
dealing
with
homeless
people
directly.
G
They
don't
they're
not
necessarily
going
to
be
comfortable
working
in
shelters
or
working
with
Arlene
and
well
in
the
desert
and
I
got
to
thinking
about
that
and
I
and
again,
because
we
can't
discuss
this
outside
of
this
room.
I
had
an
idea
that
I
wanted
to
throw
out
or
see
or
propose
a
concept
that
I
wondered
if
the
homeless
subcommittee
had
had
considered
at
all
and
I
was
thinking
back
to
a
time
that
I
had
more
time
to
watch
television,
and
that
seems
like
a
long
time
ago.
G
But
what
I
remember
very
distinctly
was
that
there
were
organizations
and
I
know
they
still
exist
where
everyday
people
could
adopt
kids
in
other
countries
and
adopt
kids
here
in
the
state.
Well
pretty
much
in
other
countries
by
simply
getting
a
profile
of
that
child
and
they
would
commit
the
the
person
that
was
doing
the
supposed
to
abduct
abducted
yep
dog.
A
G
C
C
That
would
be
a
really
good
first
topic,
because
I
do
I
respond
to
a
lot
of
emails.
Dozens
of
emails
saying
that
we're
not
doing
anything
on
homelessness
and
people
are
really
concerned
about
homelessness
in
Palm,
Springs
and
then
I
detail.
You
know
all
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
on
homelessness.
All
of
the
funding,
all
of
the
programs
that
were
involved
in
all
of
the
work
of
our
police
department
and
paths
of
life
and
well
in
the
desert
and
people
always
respond.
C
Oh
wow
you're
really
doing
a
lot,
so
I
do
think
that
there's
that
sense,
that
people
don't
know
and
you're
right,
I
think
a
lot
of
people
don't
know
how
to
help.
We
do
have
our
standing
homelessness
task
force
meeting
and
so
the
best
way
for
people
to
learn
about
what
the
city
is
is
doing
and
and
and
get
involved,
is
to
go
to
those.
So
our
next
one
is
October
18th
at
4:00
p.m.
and
in
those
meetings
I've
asked
some
of
the
service
providers.
C
Obviously,
this
city
isn't
a
service
provider
and
providing
direct
services
that
we
fund
a
lot
of
services
and
our
police
department
provides
direct
services
and
our
crisis
response
team.
But
we've
asked
them:
what
can
we
do?
What
can
people
do
who
want
to
get
involved?
Obviously
those
nonprofits
need
money,
and
you
know
it's
interesting
because
I
know
you
were.
The
fundraising
committee
was
talking
about
that
about
getting
community
support
for
different
events.
One
thing
that
path
of
life
has
said.
C
The
biggest
problem
right
now
facing
our
community
is
that
there
is
funding
for
vouchers
for
people
to
find
somewhere
to
live,
but
there
aren't
private
landlords
to
take
the
vouchers
and
provide
the
housing.
So
I've
asked
paths
of
life
again
and
again,
and
they
say
we
need
people
in
the
Palm
Springs
community
to
open
up
a
room
or
an
apartment
that
they,
you
know
owned
or
a
home
and
actually
house
people.
So
that's
one
way
you
know
so
we're
doing
a
lot
on
it.
C
K
We
just
add,
add
to
that.
I
haven't
really
heard
that
idea
and
it's
something
we
definitely
talked
with
the
providers.
Is
that
a
kind
of
fundraising
idea
and
how?
Obviously
you
need
people
who
are
comfortable
having
themselves
be
that
person
and
how
that
would
work.
But
you
know
any
idea
is
worth
this.
Any
idea
is
worth
exploring,
but
one
thing
that
we
do
know
that
and
we've
talked
to
some
folks
who
wanted
to
do
fundraising
on
it,
which
didn't
really
materialize,
but
something
we
really
should
reconsider,
figuring
out.
K
How
we
can
do
is
you
know
reaching
out
to
landlords,
you
know
sort
of
bigger
landlords,
because
the
success
rate
with
the
path
of
lies
people
who,
because
path
of
life,
space
the
rent
ahead
of
time.
So
you
know
once
they're
in
the
landlord's
really
like
working
with
them,
but
for
fundraising
the
one
of
the
gaps
is
keeping
people
from
losing
their
apartments
when
rents
go
up,
which
we
know
are
going
up
in
Palm
Springs
and
raising
money
for
that
rentals.
K
G
I'd
like
to
do,
though,
is
I'm,
probably
wasn't
clear
and
I'm.
Sorry,
it
wasn't
really
about
fundraising.
It
was
more
about
connecting
people
more
directly
with
the
human
aspect
of
a
person
living
on
the
street,
so
that
person
actually
getting
to
know
that
person
even
from
a
distance,
even
if
it's
from
a
profile,
because
what
we
find
in
and
we've
in
in
any
type
of
foster
situation
or
a
big
brother
or
big
sister
situation
is
when
you
can
get
a
human
being
connected
to
another
human
being.
G
Even
if
it's
just
through
paper,
there
could
be
a
greater
commitment
to
staying
with
that
person
and
being
invested
in
seeing
them
succeed,
and
it's
it's
more
about
a
program
that
would
align
people
with
people.
So
what
what
you're
doing
and
what
all
these
county
resources
are
doing
and
I
should
say
what
we're
doing
is
a
city
is
finding
resources
putting
to
putting
people
together
with
those
resources
and,
along
that
same
track,
finding
the
money
to
cover
it
all
I'm
wondering
if
we
couldn't
go
bigger
and
get
more
help
on
an
individual
basis.
G
If
we
had
some
sort
of
a
program
where
people
could,
every
day,
people
like
me
could
know
of
a
person
that
I
was
helping,
that
I
was
making
a
drive
having
a
direct
impact
on
their
life
and
maybe
when
they
got
to
a
certain
point.
I'd
want
to
meet
that
person
and
I
might
want
to
be
more
involved
in
their
lives
or
maybe
not.
G
So
it's
it,
maybe
I'm
not
making
myself
clear,
but
it's
less
about
money
and
more
about
engaging
a
grue
community
in
dealing
with
the
homeless
problem,
it
seems
like
there
are
satellites
of
people
and
cities
being
part
of
that
that
are
doing
all
this
work
and
then
in
the
greater
population
just
sees
homeless
at
their
worst
sees
them
on
the
worst
days
of
their
lives.
It
doesn't
really
know
other
than
you
know.
Yeah.
G
And,
yes,
we
need
to
do
all
those
things
it
that
looks
like
a
very
steep
uphill
climb
and
in
many
situations
to
even
even
the
thought
of
engaging
landlords
who
are
willing
to
take
a
homeless
person
into
their
building
or
into
their
house
and
what
condition
that
person
would
have
to
be
for
that
person
to
feel.
Welcome
and
I
worry
about
the
low
percentages
of
that
of
NIMBYism
of
all
the
things
that
come
into
play.
G
But
if
we
have
people
that
are
actually
volunteering
to
be
advocates
for
not
the
whole,
for
not
the
homeless
population
but
for
an
individual
I
wonder
if
there
isn't
something
there
and
I
and
I
just
I'm,
throwing
that
out
as
a
wonder
rather
than
then
you
know
trying
to
inflict
it
a
subcommittee.
That's
already
hard
working.
K
I,
like
that,
but
I
just
wanna
be
just
realistically,
people
would
have
to
be
trained
in
all
kinds
of
mental
health
and
addiction
issues
and
everything
that
goes
with
that
if
they're
gonna
be
engaging,
someone
has
you
need
an
organization
to
oversee
it.
We
can't
do
that.
We
don't
have
the
staff
to
do
that
and
every
organization
that's
doing
this
work
now
is
stretched
thin
I
mean
we
have
two
crisis
teams
on
the
ground
and
it
often
takes
them
100
or
200
times
before
a
person
will
even
take
a
bottle
of
water.
G
Through
a
profile,
so
if
we,
if
we
know
through
our
resources
who
a
homeless
person
is,
let's
just
say,
a
John
or
Jane
Doe,
that
is
in
process
that
is
in
line
to
get
housing
or
in
line
to
get
drug
treatment
or
they're
in
a
process
in
the
system
that
we
could
match
them
with
a
volunteer,
an
individual
who
may
just
want
to
connect
with
a
human
being,
maybe
not
directly,
but
through
their
profile.
They
might
be
willing
to
write
a
check.
They
might
be
willing
to
get
involved.
C
C
Issues
with
sharing
people's
information
or
their
photo
but
I
agree.
The
problem
is
that
people
have
an
idea
of
what
someone
who's
homeless
looks
like
and
is
like,
but
if
you
look
at
the
data
from
the
harq
study
from
from
the
Coachella
Valley
housing,
Coachella,
Valley
Association
of
Governments
homeless
subcommittee,
that
we're
doing
you
can
see
actually
a
huge
portion
of
the
of
the
people
who
are
homeless.
Our
kids
I
think
it
was
like
26%
or
something
like
that
overall.
So
it's
a
big
portion,
so
I
agree,
there's
a
misconception
about
who's
homeless.
C
L
C
With
that,
that's
the
work
that
we
do
on
our
task
force.
One
thing
that
I
think
is
really
effective:
that
path
of
life
does
is,
and
I
try
to
send
it
with
to
you
all
every
time
I
get
it
is
they
give
us
little
stories
about
who
they've
helped
in
Palm
Springs.
So
maybe
they
tell
us
that
this
week,
I
helped
a
79
year
old
woman
who
was
living
in
her
car
at
this
you
know
in
Palm
Springs,
so
those
are
really
humanizing
stories.
C
G
And
if
something
like
that
was
even
feasible,
I'm
sure
it
would
require
a
large
group
of
volunteers
that
just
worked
on
that
program
that
worked
that
work
directly
with
the
resources
to
get
to
get
people
who
wanted
the
help
to
work
out,
creating
the
profiles
doing
the
tracking
of
individuals.
But
again,
that's
all
work
that
could
be
done
from
a
great
distance
from
the
people
themselves
and
it
would
give
everyday
people
something
to
work
on.
G
C
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
since
the
mayor
pro-tem
wants
to
get
so
involved
in
homelessness,
which
I
think
is
great,
because
this
whole
council
does
but
I
did
get
a
request
from
Palm,
Springs
home
run,
5k
and
Expo,
and
so
you
might
remember
that
they
applied
for
a
grant
through
our
grant
process.
It's
through
the
seventh-day
Adventist
Church
they're,
doing
a
separate
5k
run,
which
we
agreed
to
fund
in
kind
for
the
costs
of
doing
this
run.
C
So
they've
asked
and
I
think
they've
reached
out
to
each
councilmember
and
the
mayor
about
supporting
this
event
with
our
name,
and
so
the
city
of
Palm.
Springs
is
already
supporting
the
event
because
we're
underwriting
it
in
some
way,
but
they
really
it's
the
first
time
that
they're
doing
it
and
they're
trying
to
get
more
support
than
trying
to
raise
a
lot
of
money.
All
the
proceeds
of
the
Reis
go
to
a
path
of
life
and
the
work
that
they're
doing
directly
in
our
community.
D
C
They're
proposing
and
that's
why
I
have
to
talk
about
it
here,
as
they
want
council
members
and
the
mayor
who
are
able
to
to
actually
participate
and
lend
our
names
because
they're
doing
it
at
a
baseball
theme,
and
so
they
want
us
to
sort
of
like
the
AIDS
Walk,
where
you
have
a
team
to
lead
a
team
and
have
your
name.
So
maybe
we
could
give
our
individual
names.
We
can
each
do
that
independently.
We
don't
need
a
City
action
for
that
I'm.
I
C
D
A
D
Well,
it
would
just
be
more
of
a
you
know,
more
of
a
discretionary.
It's
usually
when
the
city
sponsor
it's
a
city
of
Palm
Springs.
It's
situation
hasn't
really
come
up
a
council
or
a
mayor.
It
was
the
mayor's
race
previously,
but
that's
when
the
city
sponsored
the
full
thing
that,
like
$70,000
level,
and
that
was
that
the
mayor's
individual
initiative
in
this
case
they
certainly
could
use
you
know
the
city
of
Palm
Springs,
but
but
I'm
not
sure.
If
and
then
any
council
member
wanted
to.
I
K
C
A
F
I'm,
very
supportive
of
this
and
very
happy
to
lend
my
name
I'm
a
little
nervous
about
creating
a
pop
practice,
we're
a
private
organization
even
doing
incredibly
good
work.
We
attach
for
an
event
that
we
have
no
responsibility
over
the
official
name
of
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
or
the
official
name
of
the
Palm
Springs
City
Council
I
think
it
would
be
better
if
we
just
simply
each
and
every
one
of
us
attached
individually,
our
names
and
and
I.
F
C
Do
frequently
allow
I
think
any
event
that
we
fund
to
use
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
logo
and
name
in
advertising.
So
we
already
do
that,
but
I'm
fine
with
that.
If
we
just
want
to
each
make
individual
decisions
about
being
involved
in
lending
our
name
like
we
do
for
other
I
just
thought,
because
there
have
been
mayors
races
in
the
past,
and
you
know
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
is
sort
of
that's
a
general
term
versus
having
the
full
city
council.
Support
is
more
helpful,
so
sponsored.
F
A
Just
just
thinking
out
here,
you
know
most
of
these.
These
events,
you
can
do
a
certain
level
like
a
team.
Can
I
mean
if
they
have
a
thing
where
it's
like
a
thousand
dollars
or
something
we
could
each
contribute
a
certain
amount
from
our
our
contingency
funds,
and
it
could
be
the
councilmember
team
or
something,
and
it
wouldn't
actually
put
our
name
on
it,
but
would
have
us
as
a
sponsor
how
about
that.
It's.
C
C
However,
I
asked
for
more
information,
I
think
I
said:
I
was
going
to
do
that,
so
the
last
survey
cycle
and
this
data
is
really
important
for
grant
funding
and
other
health
funding.
Desert
Hot
Springs
gave
5000
Coachella
gave
5000
LaQuinta
gave
2,500,
and
then
this
survey
cycle,
the
cities
of
Desert
Hot
Springs,
has
given
5,000
Indio
Coachella
Cathedral
City
have
agreed
also
to
fund
it,
and
so
I
think
that
we
as
a
city
of
Palm
Springs,
should
think
about
funding
this
with
our
partner
cities.
C
If
all
of
these
other
cities
are
funding,
it
I
think
it's
an
important
project
and
I
would
be.
You
know
remiss
I
think
not
to
be
on
that
list
of
cities.
Funding
health
data,
so
I
know
it
wasn't
it's
not
budgeted
for
this
cycle,
and
so
I
asked
the
city
manager
and
he
said
we
could
reopen
some
of
that
grant
funding.
We
held
some
and
continue.
A
Think
we
left
50
or
60
thousand,
didn't
wait
for
these.
That's
why
we
do
it
every
year
to
gain
for
these
contingencies.
Okay,
I
have
a
very
simple
question
for
the
city
manager,
councilmember,
Coors
and
I
discussed
this,
so
that
I
was
just
the
two
of
us
David
on
the
entrance
to
the
parking
law
at
the
Hyatt.
It's
got
the
you
know,
it's
gotten
a
very
neat,
looking
letters
to
say
parking
public
parking.
Could
we
look?
A
Could
we
possibly
do
maybe
a
smaller
but
the
same
type
of
lettering
before
that
or
and
maybe
after
that,
that
says,
free
public
parking
because
I
think
the
hot
people
coming
into
town
or
going
to
the
downtown
they
that's
where
they're
going
they're,
not
gonna,
go
over
by
the
museum.
They're
gonna
go
down,
Palm
Canyon.
If
they
saw
the
word
free
in
front
of
the
Hyatt,
they
wouldn't
I,
think
right.
Now
people
think
it's
public
parking
that
belongs
to
the
hotel
and
then
it's
probably
charging.
So
if
could
we
put
a
free
sign.
D
A
It
would
be
I
mean
they're,
they're
plastic
letters
have
been
cut
out
and
glued
up
there,
so
shouldn't
be
that
difficult.
Okay,
great
Jeff
mission
accomplished:
okay,
okay,
we
have
anybody
yeah,
no
okay,
any
other
any
other
items.
Okay,
see
no
other
items,
nothing,
nothing!
Nothing!
We
will
adjourn
to
the
study
session
on
Thursday
October
4th
from
all
night
at
six
o'clock
p.m.
in
the
council
chamber,
City
Hall
preceded
by,
do
we
have
a
closed
session
tomorrow?
Okay,
this
is
wrong
in
a
City
Hall,
a
six
o'clock.
Okay,
I
think
we
are
adjourned.