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A
To
order
the
September
27th
2018
study
session
special
council
meeting
of
the
Palm
Springs
City
Council,
what
everyone
please
rise
for
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance,
please
place
your
hand
over
your
heart
and
repeat
with
me:
I
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag
of
the
United
States
of
America
and
to
the
Republic
for
which
it
stands.
One
nation
under
God,
indivisible
with
liberty
and
justice
for
all.
You
may
be
seated.
Thank
you
city
clerk.
Would
you
please
do
the
roll
call.
B
D
E
A
A
First
thing
we
will
do
is
a
presentation
by
the
Calvo
and
recommend
eight
of
the
recommendations:
the
California
Voting
Rights
Act,
c.b.c
Bri
community
working
group
related
to
the
city's
governance
structure,
election
method,
election
year,
sequence
of
Elections,
diversification
of
boards
and
commissions
and
other
related
matters.
So
what
each
of
you
please
introduce
yourself
and
then
give
us
your
report.
Thank
you.
C
G
I
K
M
M
That
would
seem
to
implicate
that
decisions
that
we're
making
here
could
impact.
The
terms
are
the
roles
that
the
existing
City
Council
has,
and
that
is
simply
absolutely
not
true.
Everything
that
we
are
discussing
has
to
do
with
what
we
will
do
going
forward
after
the
next
set
of
elections
that
we
have
for
members
of
City
Council
and
with
that
I
want
to
turn
it
over
to
the
workgroup
and
again,
thank
you
for
your
work.
N
C
Great
so
again,
my
name
is
Alexis
Ortega
I'm,
one
of
the
three
co-chairs
of
the
California
Voting
Rights
Act
working
group.
So
you'll
see
me
referring
to
that
as
the
CBRE
just
for
folks
who
don't
know
that
so,
let's
get
started
first,
just
a
little
background
on
this
group
and
how
we
arrived
to
a
recommendation.
So
we
are
a
group
of
full-time,
mostly
full-time
in
one
part-time
resident.
C
We
were
created
at
the
request
of
the
council
and
the
ad
hoc
subcommittee
to
address
the
issues
facing
the
city
with
regards
to
the
settlement
with
the
law
firm,
representing
the
Southwest
voter
registration
and
education
project,
so
that's
actually
the
nonprofit
that
works
towards
Latino
civil
rights
and
voting
rights.
So
we
met
to
talk
about
those
issues
in
light
of
allegations
of
racially
polarized
voting
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
So,
specifically,
you
can
see
the
bullet
points
here
listed
on
what
we
addressed
we'll
spend
a
majority
of
time
tonight.
C
Talking
about
four
versus
five
districts.
Tobias
will
explain
kind
of
why
we
were
limited
in
scope
and
looking
at
that
also
the
transition
to
even
your
elections.
How
to
select
the
mayor
going
forward
what
the
new
election
process
might
be
in
a
district
and
then
additionally,
how
to
reduce
barriers
to
running
for
City,
Council
and
working
on
the
City
Council,
increasing
diversity
in
boards
and
commissions
and
reviewing
maps,
but
I
will
say
that
tonight
we're
not
making
any
specific
Mac
Park
and
recommendations.
C
So
our
process,
we
started
meeting
regularly
in
May
28
teen,
once
the
council
agreed
to
move
forward
in
this
direction,
and
we
really
organized
organize
ourselves
around
these
issues
with
the
leadership
of
the
ad
hoc
subcommittee
and
what
we
really
strive
to
do
was
seek
information
and
do
research
on
this
topic.
So
this
is
something
that's
affecting
cities
all
across
the
state
of
California.
C
And
so
we
looked
to
look
at
numbers
like
which
cities
are
actually
district
cities,
which
cities
are
cities
that
engage
in
at-large
elections,
which
of
those
have
council
elected
mayors,
which
of
them
have
at-large
elected
mayors.
So
we
did
all
that
research
and
compiled
numbers
and
looked
at
percentages,
and
things
like
that.
We
also
supported
the
city's
outreach
efforts
and
getting
this
information
to
you
all
the
residents
and
in
particular,
we
had
a
really
targeted
focus
on
african-american,
Latino
and
Filipino
communities,
specifically
in
light
of
these
allegations
of
racially
polarized
voting
right.
C
So
we
really
strive
to
create
a
lot
of
space
for
these
communities,
so
this
is
one
such
event:
bayanihan.
It
was
organized
and
rooted
really
in
Filipino,
American,
culture
and
community,
of
which
our
city
has
a
strong
and
rich
history.
Special
thanks
to
the
organizers.
If
you're
here
would
you
mind
just
raising
your
hand
or
standing
up
Michelle
Castillo
and
Edwin
ramrod,
along
with
the
color
up
a
couple
other
people?
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
hard
work
and
dedication.
C
So
that
was
a
lovely
group
of
folks,
and
that
was
really
in
response
to
an
event
that
had
previously
happened
at
doom
Youth
Park,
where
that
community
just
wasn't
there,
and
so
part
of
that
was
looking
at
the
trigger
ways
in
which
the
city
had
engaged
that
community
and
trying
to
think
of
alternatives.
So
they
did
canvassing
like
door-to-door
knocking
and
there's
really
strong
roots
of
the
Filipino
community
into
demuth
Park
neighborhood.
C
Another
such
event,
which
we
don't
have
a
picture
here
of,
but
that
I
mentioned,
was
one
conducted
entirely
in
Spanish
at
Catherine,
pin
tree
elementary
with
the
help
of
the
city's
diversity
consultant,
tea
sucked
at
salon
and
the
working
group
member
grace
Gardner,
who
couldn't
be
here
today,
as
well
as
her
mother
Juanita.
If
you
were
at
that
event
or
an
organizer,
would
you
please
raise
your
hand
yay?
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
C
So
much
and
this
photo
is
a
photo
of
one
event
that
was
held
at
Desert
Highlands,
with
the
help
of
Dixie
Miller
who's,
a
member
of
this
working
group
to
bring
information
and
engagement
with
some
black
residents,
and
in
particular,
we
had
a
focused
map.
Drawing
session,
so
we
went
through
the
technology
of
of
drawing
maps
that
the
city
has
provided.
C
C
I
think
it's
really
special
that
the
city
was
able
to
secure
that
settlement
and
something
like
this
I
think
requires
a
lot
of
time
and
attention,
and
so
I
think
it
was
edy
who
I
heard
who
said
this
is
a
this
is
a
marathon
and
we
really
tried
to
do
it
at
a
sprint
piece
and
we're
still
doing
that.
So
moving
on
I
touched
upon
this
briefly,
but
just
some
important
considerations
that
the
working
group
had
with
regards
to
this
work.
C
We
really
try
to
bring
an
understanding
of
the
Hitty,
the
history
of
our
city
with
regards
to
communities
of
color
and
other
marginalized
people
palm
springs.
Much
like
the
history
of
this
country
really
has
not
been
particularly
kind
to
Latino
black
Filipino
Asian
and
indigenous
folks.
We've
often
been
shut
up
from
decision
making
that
affects
our
livelihoods.
C
Discrimination
has
been
codified
into
law,
there's
been
a
factor,
segregation,
some
of
which
still
affects
us
today
and
in
particular
I'm
referring
to
section
14,
which
I
believe
is
a
stain
on
our
past
and
one
in
which
I
think
the
city
has
an
opportunity
to
help
make
amends
for.
It
is
precisely
because
of
section
14
and
the
forcible
displacement
of
folks
that
were
living
there
and
other
policies
that
we
have.
These
really
particular
concentrations
of
communities
living
in
certain
parts
of
the
cities.
C
Today,
I'm
talking
specifically
about
desert,
Highlands,
DeMuth,
Park,
Lawrence,
Krauss
Lee,
as
well
as
others,
and
so
after
these
homes
were
burned
down
in
the
60s.
Many
of
these
folks
who
lived
here
moved
to
these
other
neighborhoods,
and
so
the
process
of
districting
really
affects
and
is
important
in
trying
to
address
those
issues
in
terms
of
where
folks
are
living
and
where
they're
concentrated
some
other
things
that
we
made
sure
that
we
considered.
C
So
there
is
this
one
PS
model
in
the
city
and
I
believe
that
there
and
I
think
the
working
group
agrees
with
me
that
there
are
certain
neighborhoods
and
groups
of
folks
that
are
excluded
from
this
model.
Currently,
for
instance,
the
neighborhood
in
which
I
grew
up,
which
is
just
south
of
the
coyote,
run
affordable
housing
projects
and
also
the
trailer
park
right
across
the
street,
in
which
you
know
my
aunt
took
care
of
me
and
I
had
family
friends
who
took
care
of
me
after
school.
C
Golden
sands
are
two
neighborhoods
that
are
not
traditionally
organized
in
that
model,
and
so
this
may
contribute
to
the
sense
that
the
city
elevates
the
status
of
organized
neighborhoods,
while
seemingly
ignoring
others,
and
these
are
really
important
considerations
when
we're
talking
about
districting
and
keeping
neighborhoods
intact,
which
we
certainly
want
to
do,
and
let's
consider
who's
not
yet
at
that
table
and
make
sure
that
the
city
is
aware
of
that
and
does
work
to
address
that.
And
then.
H
So
the
process
of
engagement
with
our
neighbors
and
with
a
broad
section
of
communities
that
Alexis
just
described
was
four
had
a
lot
of
different
purposes
associated
with
it
and,
and
mostly
it
was
about
educating
us
educating
us
about
what
we
needed
to
know
about
communities
that
had
strong
feelings
about
the
redistricting
process.
Educating
ourselves
about
what
types
of
communities
of
interest
exists
within
Palm
Springs.
H
That's
a
term
that
the
California
Voting
Rights
Act,
is
concerned
with,
and
that
we
wanted
to
hear
from
our
neighbors
and
residents
in
Palm
Springs
about
how
they
view
community
and
how
they
view.
Neighborhood,
and
also
educating
us
about
their
views
about
good
governance
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
And
one
of
the
things
that
we
discovered,
which
was
not
surprising
when
we
thought
about
it,
was
that
there
were
a
lot
of
residents
of
Palm
Springs.
H
Who
didn't
have
a
really
clear
sense
of
how
the
City
Council
is
presently
organized,
and
particularly
the
relationship
of
the
position
of
mayor
to
the
position
of
City
Council
member.
So
this
is
one
of
the
background
principles
that
we
had
as
a
kind
of
defining
starting
point
for
our
work.
The
Palm
Springs
City
Charter
provides
for
a
City
Council
of
five
members
and
there
are
five
co-equal
members.
They
all
have
one
vote
on
City
Council.
H
They
all
have
the
same
legislative
powers
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs,
and
the
position
of
mayor
is
provided
for
separately
in
the
city
charter.
But
it's
provided
for
as
a
ceremonial
position,
and
so
what
that
means
in
the
Charter
is
that
the
mayor
has
duties
that
are
not
exclusive
duties,
but
that
our
duty
is
concentrated
in
the
mayor's
position
to
be
a
spokesperson
for
the
city
to
perform
ceremonial
functions
for
the
city.
H
And
then
the
mayor
is
chosen
from
among
the
members
of
the
City
Council
that
are
elected,
afford
district
system,
which
would
be
a
system
where,
for
members
of
City
Council
are
elected
from
districts,
and
then
the
mayor
is
elected
at-large
from
the
entire
city.
So
in
the
for
district
option,
the
mayor
is
still
just
one
of
five
members
of
City
Council
right.
The
mayor
still
doesn't
have
managerial
authority.
H
David
Reedy
is
not
in
danger
of
being
fired
so
far
as
we
know,
but
the
idea
was
to
have
the
mayor
be
sort
of
defined
in
a
different
way
in
a
Ford
District
option
than
the
other
members
of
City
Council,
and
so
part
of
the
background
of
our
examination
of
these
options
was
about
whether
it
would
make
sense
to
have
to
go
to
a
system
where
you
still
have
five
City
Council
members
who
all
have
the
same
vote
and
the
same
power
in
government.
But
one
of
them
is
elected
in
a
different
way.
H
One
of
them
is
elected
at-large
instead
of
from
the
district.
That's
what
the
four
district
option
is
about.
The
other
major
difference,
of
course,
is
that
a
five
district
option
means
that
there
are
slightly
fewer
people
in
each
district
and
a
little
bit
broader
range
of
options
when
it
comes
to
how
you
define
those
districts
and
that
winds
up
having
a
pretty
significant
impact
on
one
of
the
primary
goals
of
the
California
Voting
Rights
Act,
which
is
preventing
the
dilution
of
minority
votes
of
minority
bloc
voting.
H
What
that
would
also
mean
is
that
there's
no
at-large
mayor
right,
the
mayor,
would
be
selected
from
among
the
ranks
of
City
Council.
After
each
of
the
members
of
City
Council
is
elected
from
his
or
her
district.
Through
an
equal
voting
process,
we
have
concluded
that
it
would
be
the
wrong
decision
to
go
to
a
four
district
model
and
to
have
an
elected
mayor.
H
Already
about
the
question
of
what
powers
the
mayor
has,
and
we
had
a
pretty
serious
concern
that
going
to
a
four
district
model
would
just
encourage
confusion,
encourage
a
lack
of
understanding
on
the
part
of
members
of
the
community
about
how
the
mayor's
authority
is
defined
and
therefore
how
the
mayor's
political
accountability
is
defined
right.
So
one
of
the
things,
one
of
the
kind
of
good
government
principles
that
we
think
is
important
is
that
people
have
a
clear
understanding
of
what
their
elected
officials
are
accountable
for
and
whom
they're
accountable
to
right.
H
But
it
might
be
easy
to
tag
a
mayor
with
with
blame
for
something
that
sort
of
highly
visible
in
the
city,
and
we
actually
had
a
particular
concern
about
what
that
might
mean
for
the
accountability
of
the
city
manager.
So
the
city
manager
who's
the
person
who
actually
has
responsibility
for
management
of
the
city,
he's
responsible
to
the
full
City
Council,
and
when
you
have
five
co-equal
members
of
the
City
Council
were
all
elected.
In
the
same
way.
We
think
that
that
accountability
to
the
full
City
Council
is
clear.
H
If
the
full
City
Council
is
not
made
up
of
co-equal
members.
But
there
is
this
at
least
appearance
of
greater
political
authority
on
the
part
of
the
mayor
and
so
America
to
either
shield
a
city
manager
from
scrutiny.
If
they
have
a
good
relationship
or
a
mayor
could
go
after
a
city
manager
if
they
have
a
bad
relationship
in
ways
that
we
think
would
not
be
consistent
with
the
idea
that
the
city
manager
is
accountable
to
the
entire
City
Council
and
so
that
weight
on
our
consideration
as
well.
H
We
did,
however,
consider
some
arguments
against
a
five
district
system.
One
of
the
arguments
that
we
heard
was
that
going
to
districts
is
going
to
create
factionalism
that
suddenly
members
of
council
look
only
going
to
be
accountable
to
their
districts,
and
so
all
they're
gonna
care
about
is
what's
going
on
in
their
districts
and
therefore
there's
gonna
be
sort
of
polarization
within
our
government,
and
we
heard
an
argument
that
having
an
at-large
elected
mayor
would
mean
that
one
of
the
phrases
that
was
used
is
that
the
mayor
would
be
the
adult
in
the
room.
H
H
We
also
heard
an
argument
about
reducing
the
number
of
election
and
elected
officials
that
people
get
to
vote
for
that,
it's
better
to
vote
from
it's
more
democratic
to
vote
for
more
elected
officials,
and
so
people
can
now
vote
for
five
members
of
City
Council
and
that's
definitely
going
way
down
because
we're
going
to
districts
where
the
city
is
going
to
districts.
But
the
argument
was
that
two
is
better
than
one,
but
it's
better
to
be
able
to
vote
for
to
elected
officials
than
one
and
we
didn't
find
that
argument
very
convincing.
H
In
our
view,
the
best
way
to
ensure
democratic
values
is
to
find
a
well-designed
system
of
government
and
then
to
make
sure
that
all
the
residents
in
the
community
have
the
opportunity
to
participate
in
a
full
and
meaningful
and
equal
fashion
in
that
system
of
government,
and
that's
where
democratic
self-governance
comes
from,
and
it's
already
the
case
that
we
have
districts
in
the
California
State
Legislature.
We
have
districts
in
the
United
States
House
of
Representatives.
There
are
many
many
different
ways
to
organize
cities
and
voting
from
more
rather
than
fewer
elected
officials.
H
H
We
think
that
that's
a
serious
argument
and
we
think
that
there
is
a
loss
associated
with
the
opportunity
to
engage
in
that
kind
of
citywide
voting
exercise
as
a
kind
of
collective
act
of
civic
engagement
and
every
way
of
organizing
city
government
involves
trade-offs,
and
we
think
that
losing
that
opportunity
should
be
recognized
as
a
trade-off.
But
we
think
it
is
very
strongly
outweighed
by
the
other
good
government
considerations
that
I
just
I
just
spent
some
time
discussing.
H
H
So
we
took
a
look
at
the
impact
that
five
districts
versus
four
districts
would
have
on
specifically
the
goal
of
the
California
Voting
Rights
Act,
which
involves
preventing
the
dilution
of
minority
voting,
and
there
were
203.
Pardon
me
three
major
considerations
that
led
us
to
conclude
that
a
five
district
system
is
a
much
much
more
consistent
with
the
goals
of
the
CVRA
and
a
much
better
option
for
the
city
than
for
districts.
The
first
disk
option.
Just
has
to
do
with
what
the
maps
look
like
now,
Alexis
mentioned.
We.
H
We
looked
at
a
bunch
of
different
map
options
and
how
those
sort
of
numbers
broke
down
when
it
came
to
both
populations
and
also
particularly
populations
of
voting
age
and
Kathy,
is
gonna
walk
us
through
some
of
those
findings
in
just
a
minute,
but
the
short
version
is
five.
Districts
provides
a
much
greater
and
more
meaningful
opportunity
for
achieving
the
goal
of
preventing
the
dilution
of
minority
voting
than
does
for
districts.
There
are
real
differences
in
what
the
city
can
achieve
in
seeking
to
accomplish
that
goal
of
the
CVRA
with
five
districts
instead
of
four.
H
The
second
major
consideration
goes
back
to
what
I
said
about
the
position
of
the
mayor.
If
you
create
a
four
district
system
with
an
at-large
mayor,
we
think
that
there's
every
reason
to
expect
that
the
mayor
is
going
to
be
this
sort
of
singularly
influential
political
figure,
or
at
least
is
going
to
try
to
become
the
leading
political
figure
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
And
if
you
have
at
least
the
possibility
of
racially
polarized
voting
in
a
city.
H
If
the
India
there
is
a
problem
of
exclusion
of
racial
minorities
in
their
ability
to
exercise
influence
in
the
city,
so
we
actually
from
the
perspective
of
the
CVRA.
We
think
that
that's
a
step
backwards,
not
just
a
missed
opportunity,
but
a
real
step
backwards
and
the
third
issue
very
briefly-
and
we
talked
about
this
in
the
the
longer
report
that
we
submitted.
H
We
think-
and
let
me
preface
this
by
saying-
it's
not
our
job,
to
give
the
city
any
legal
advice
in
the
city
has
certainly
not
sought
any
legal
advice
from
us
and
we
wouldn't
have
given
it
to
them
if
they
asked
for
it.
But
on
the
face
of
the
California
Voting
Rights
Act,
it
seems
pretty
clear
to
us
that
a
four
district
system
with
an
at-large
mayor
is
still
vulnerable
to
a
lawsuit
under
the
CVR.
A
that
doing
that
system
doesn't
give
the
city
any
guarantee
that
going
forward.
H
But
just
from
our
view
of
the
statute,
it
seems
like
that
is
a
danger
to
the
city
in
a
four
district
model
that
would
not
be
present
in
the
five
district
model,
and
with
that,
let
me
turn
it
over
to
Kathy.
To
just
show
you
a
little
bit
of
the
detail
that
we
tried
to
consider
in
looking
at
five
versus
four
options
with
maps
and
then
to
talk
about
our
next
set
of
recommendations.
Kathy.
B
Before
you
go
and
if
I
can
mr.
mayor
just
make
an
announcement,
we
do
have
copies
of
the
CVRA
working
groups,
recommendations
which
is
on
the
table
here
in
front
of
you.
So
if
you're
like
me
and
it's
hard
to
just
follow
along,
there
are
also
packets.
We
added
those
late,
so
people
who
come
came
early
might
not
have
grabbed
them
when
they
came
in.
So
if
you
want
to
follow
along
and
read
that
those
recommendations
for
yourself,
you
can
grab
a
packet
here.
Thank
you.
I.
G
So
we
wanted
to
show
you
what
we
looked
at
for
this
report
and
we
limited
ourselves,
although
we
could
have
gone
broader
to
the
demographers
Maps,
they
presented
eight
maps.
Four
of
them
were
four
districts,
and
four
of
them
were
five
districts.
If
you
look
at
a
district
and
what
we
the
two
key
indices,
we
looked
at
and
I've
we've
aggregated
them
without
we've
aggregated
minority
voting,
where
we
would
normally
break
out
Latino
black
in
Asian,
their
act
and
in
tribal
because
they're
aggregated
for
the
purposes
of
simplicity.
G
But
when
you
look
at
citizen
voting
age-
and
that
means
you
dropout
non-citizens
in
younger
people
in
the
four
district
maps,
you
come
up
with
a
minority
percentage
of
43
in
the
strongest
district
that
could
possibly
have
minority
majority
and
that's
consistent
across
all
of
the
four
district
maps
and
usually
with
the
remaining
districts.
The
minority
citizen
voting
age
drops
down
into
the
twenty
percent,
so
you'll
get
one
district
which
has
about
forty
percent
minority.
G
G
Similarly,
with
smoke
tree
you'd
get
49
percent.
We
seen
a
couple
of
maps
where
you
might
have
gotten
in
the
first,
so
you
maintain
a
higher
percentage
of
people
who
are
minority
who
are
voting
age
and
citizens,
and
that
means
less
dilution
of
the
minority
vote
in
at
least
one
district
in
the
five
district
maps.
It's
also
possible
to
get
a
second
district.
G
In
some
instances,
and
doesn't
show
in
any
of
these
maps
that
maybe
50
percent
minority,
although
when
you
take
when
you
look
at
citizen
voting
age
again,
it
drops
down
so
what
we
found
when
we
looked
at
these
maps-
and
we
could
have
pulled
several
others
out
that
were
either
submitted
by
citizens
or
II-
do
be
actually
did
ten
similar
maps
for
fives
and
four
fours
to
illustrate
possibilities
across
the
city.
That
was
very
consistent
and
it
wasn't
in
every
map.
G
That's
a
five
that's
drawn,
but
it's
in
some
of
the
maps
that
are
drawn
that
you're
able
to
get
a
higher
a
higher
percentage
of
minorities
that
are
of
citizens
voting
age.
That's
important
to
take
the
that
you're,
taking
the
steps
to
not
dilute
the
minority
vote.
I
read
through
the
complaint
that
was
filed
against
us
and
they
they
not
only
went
back
to
an
allegation.
They
also
went
back
to
through
the
history
of
the
city,
saying
that
we
had
never.
You
know
in
the
history
a
two-year
history
of
our
city.
G
We
never
had
a
Latino
mayor,
which
I
think
is,
as
we
were
talking
to
some
of
the
Latino
elders.
We
heard
that
there
in
fact
was
a
or
not
a
mayor,
but
a
Latino
city
council
person
in
the
80s,
and
so
we
have
actually
had
one
in
our
80-year
history.
One
Latino
who
was
elected,
he
owned
I,
think
an
insurance
agency
in
town
the
agency
still
here
and
from
our
knowledge,
we've
had
one
after
American
person
who
was
elected
the
consul
and
actually
elected
as
mayor.
G
But
as
you
go
back
through
history
that
that's
the
history
that
the
plaintiffs
used
as
part
of
the
history
to
show
that
we
had
racially
polarized
voting.
So
we
didn't.
Actually
we
saved
our
discussion.
We
looked
through
a
lot
of
other
issues
on
the
four
versus
five
until
we
got
enough
maps
in
where
we
could
take
a
look
at
these
statistics
to
make
sure
that
whatever
recommendation
we
made
to,
you
was
actually
consistent
with
the
goal
of
the
CVRA,
which
is
to
not
dilute
minority
votes
and,
in
fact,
eliminate
the
polarization.
G
Okay,
so
this
is
easier
what
another
city,
what
if
other
cities
done-
and
we
looked
at
a
lot
of
cities,
I'm
just
taking
the
ones
that
we
had
in
blocks
and
we
had
a
lot
of
help
from
the
City
Attorney's
Office
and
some
of
the
research.
We
did
here-
Thank
You
mr.
Compton,
and
we
looked
to
not
make
the
City
Attorney's
Office
research,
every
city
in
California.
We
went
with
cities
between
25,000
and
75,000.
G
There
are
a
hundred
and
forty
six
cities
and
what
we
found
was
that
not
too
many
of
the
cities
only
42
have
gone
to
districts.
Some
of
them
may
have
been
at
districts
already,
and
this
isn't
the
result
of
being
sued,
but
they
had
started
out
with
districts
and
the
cities
that
have
gone
to
districts,
about
two-thirds
of
them
have
gone
to
a
council
elected
mayor
as
opposed
to
a
city
want
a
citywide
elected
mayor.
G
71
percent
of
them
have
a
council
elected
mayor
and
that
we
pretty
much
all
of
the
cities
where
a
strong
city
manager,
ceremonial
mayor,
the
cities
that
aren't
tend
to
be
much
larger,
where
they
have
an
elected
mayor
who
is
a
actually
strong
mayor
managerial
mayor
of
the
type
I
experienced
in
the
big
cities?
I
lived
in
when
we
look
at
the
Coachella
Valley
it's
interesting,
because
we
have
two
cities:
Cathedral,
City
and
Indio
that
are
just
going
to
their
first.
A
district
elections
in
2018.
G
Both
of
them
opted
to
go
to
a
council
elected
mayor
of
the
cities
that
have
the
six
cities
that
have
an
at-large
mayor.
It's
pretty
split
our
that
have
still
at-large
elections.
Excuse
me,
it's
split
three
of
them
have
a
council
elected
mayor
and
three
of
them
have
an
at-large
elected
mayor.
The
one
interesting
thing
is
that
Desert
Hot
Springs
one
of
our
neighboring
cities,
is
it
actually
has
going
to
a
council
elected
mayor
on
their
ballot
currently,
and
so
we
don't
that.
May
change,
but
they're
not
changing
over
to
districts.
G
G
G
So,
looking
at
that,
what
do
we
advise
you
to
do
and
that
you
have
a
lot
of
options
and
in
the
packet
we
had,
we
listed
we'd,
give
you
a
little
sheet
with
all
the
options.
What
we
really
suggest
is
as
you're
making
this
transition,
you
do
something
that
does
not
add
an
extra
year
to
any
of
your
terms.
We
think
we
think
the
voters
don't
expect
that
of
you,
that
that
would
be
difficult
to
do
and
to
to
facilitate
this.
G
Our
recommendation
was
that
in
the
next
election
in
2019,
you
go
to
three-year
terms,
and
then
you
do
that
for
two
election
cycles,
and
at
the
end
of
that
you,
you
can
go
back
to
four
year
terms.
That's
a
suggestion
again.
If
we
thought
that
was
the
fairest
way
to
the
voters,
it's
fair
to
the
people
who
are
going
to
be
running
for
those
five
seats
that
they
know
they're
running
for
three-year
terms,
and
it
gets
the
city
into
this
electro
this.
Even
your
election
system
quickly.
G
The
other
decisions
you'll
have
to
make
if
you
go
to
a
five
district
system,
is
how
do
you
select
your
mayor
and
your
mayor
pro-tem
one
of
our
first
recommendations-
and
this
was
every
city.
We
looked
at
no
city
codified,
how
they
were
going
to
select
the
mayor
that
did
a
consul
selected
mayor.
They
put
it
in
their
rules
and
procedures.
The
reason
they
did
that
was
that
if
the
city
for
some
reason
needed
to
do
something
different,
someone
wanted
to
opt
out
of
rotations.
For
some
reason,
council
wanted
to
go
in
a
different
direction.
G
Basically,
we
recommend
a
majority
vote
without
putting
in
place
a
firm
rotation
system.
Some
cities
have
a
system
based
on
high
vote
getter,
but
I
think
that
would
be
difficult
with
a
district
system
where
differing
numbers
of
people
may
vote
in
district
elections
or
you'd
have
an
incumbent
versus
somebody
who
voted
who
had
five
people
running
with
them.
So
we
we
basically
said
that
that
also
allowed
you
flexibility,
you
might
build
an
informal
rotation
system
into
that,
but
don't
do
anything.
We
don't
you'll
see
how
that
goes.
G
Don't
do
anything
too
formal,
we'd
recommend
a
one-year
term,
but
for
flexibility,
the
ability
to
appoint
a
person
to
a
second
consecutive
term.
You
already
have
a
system
with
the
mayor
pro-tem,
where
they're
appointed
the
first
meeting
in
December
in
the
election
year.
That
makes
sense
and
then
think
about
whether
or
not
you
want
somebody
to
have
been
on
console
for
a
year
or
two
before
they
can
qualify
to
run
for
mayor
so
that
they
get
a
good
sense
of
how
the
council
operates.
G
G
G
The
other
things
just
a
very
small
thing:
do
you
have
to
live
in
your
district?
It's
settled
policy
in
California
that
you
need
to
live
in
your
district
when
you
pull
papers
and
you
need
to
live
in
it,
the
entire
term,
and
if
you
wanted
to
move
out
of
that
district,
you
would
automatically
lose
your
council
seat.
G
G
Those
two
counselors
will
remain
citywide
elected
officials
until
there's
a
new
election,
and
then
those
two
seats
will
be
assigned.
How
do
you
go
about
doing
this?
What
are
your
elections
look
like
for?
We
basically
recommended
plurality
voting,
which
is
what
we
have
now,
which
is
the
highest
vote.
Getter
wins,
but
take
a
look
at
and
maybe
work
toward
rank
choice,
voting,
which
is
called
an
otherwise
called
an
instant
runoff
system.
G
The
reason
to
look
at
the
rank
choice
voting
is
that
in
districts
with
a
pullout
prove.
Excuse
me
with
the
winner-take-all
system
you
can
win
with.
You
can
possibly
win
with
very
few
votes,
especially
if
they're,
four
or
five
people
running
in
that
district.
There
may
only
be
two
thousand
voters
you
can.
You
can
win
with
very
few
votes
and
be
on
console
primaries.
California
is
going
to
a
March
primary.
That
means
this.
G
If
you
instituted
a
primary
system,
some
would
people
would
have
to
run
in
March
and
then
again
in
November,
that's
expensive,
difficult,
drawn-out,
doesn't
make
sense.
A
runoff
system
has
the
same
problems.
You
have
to
wait
80
days
and
you
have
to
do
it
on
an
election
day.
So
it
means
that
your
runoff
would
be
80
to
110
days
after
the
election
again
drawn-out
difficult,
doesn't
work
for
an
efficient
government.
G
The
ranch
choice
really
works
very
well
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
the
person
who
gets
the
highest
first
and
second
choice
votes
wins,
but
it's
difficult
to
implement.
It
means
you
have
to
educate
your
voters
a
few
cities
in
California.
Do
it
now,
but
you
it
would
involve
and
might
it
would
involve
in
a
negotiation
with
a
county.
C
Alright
I'll
try
to
run
through
this
quickly,
but
part
of
our
charge
from
the
ad
hoc
subcommittee
was
also
outside
of
the
districting
process.
How
do
we
as
a
city,
think
about
removing
barriers
to
run
and
to
serve,
and
how
do
we
be
active
in
trying
to
increase
the
diversity
inclusion
on
our
boards
and
commissions,
which
are
often
seen
as
a
stepping
stone
to
elected
office?
So
the
first
category
removing
barriers
to
run
and
serve
first
thing
that
we
looked
at
was
the
salary
increase?
C
So
currently
it's
a
hundred
twenty
signatures
that
folks
need
to
be
nominated
if
you're
coming
from
a
very
tight-knit
community
and
you've
demonstrated
leadership
in
that
community.
Yet
that
community
smaller,
then
it
might
be
more
difficult
for
you
to
secure
that
number
of
signatures,
so
we
recommended
reducing
that
to
twenty
signatures,
also
removing
barriers
to
serve
so
once
you
get
elected
to
office,
what
are
the
barriers
that
prevent
somebody
from
running
again
or
prevent
somebody
who's
tied
to
that
person's
network
if
they
represent
a
minority
community
prevents
other
folks
from
thinking
about
running?
C
Well,
one
is
stuffing
if,
if
an
individual
is
a
single
parent,
let's
say,
and
they
happen
to
serve
on
city
council.
The
amount
and
workload
of
the
folks
that
are
sitting
in
front
of
us
right
now
is
tremendous
and
so
providing
additional
staffing
and
support
for
these
folks
so
that
they
don't
have
to
be
necessarily
at
every
single
event,
which
is
what
many
folks
in
Palm
Springs
expect
of.
All
of
you
can
help
with
that
also
a
car,
stipend
or
allowance.
C
So
we
heard
this
the
City
Council
members
get
reimbursed
for
their
mileage
and
yet
their
time
is
very
precious,
they're
very
busy,
so
how
many
of
them
are
actually
incentivized
to
fill
out
the
forms
of
getting
reimbursed
for
their
mileage
I
work
out?
They
don't
write,
I
work
at
a
non-profit
and
I'm,
not
nearly
as
busy
as
them
and
sometimes
I.
C
Maybe
their
network
is
full
of
lower-income
folks
and
so
hopeful
hopeful
II
with
districts
that
will
address
some
of
that,
and
yet
there
is
also
an
opportunity
to
maybe
think
about
creative
ways
in
which,
whether
that's
campaign
finance
looking
at
campaign
finance,
there's
other
cities
that
are
doing
things.
I
I,
don't
recall
if
we
put
it
in
the
report
we
did.
C
The
City
of
Seattle
is
doing
what's
known
as
democracy
vouchers,
so
every
person
gets
25
dollars
to
give
to
their
elected
official,
and
it's
on
the
spirit
of
more
engagement,
more
civic
and
political
engagement
amongst
a
variety
of
communities
and
then
finally
increasing
diversity
on
boards
and
commissions.
So,
if
we
think
of
these
bodies
as
sort
of
stepping
stones
to
serving
in
an
elected
capacity,
we
need
to
be
really
intentional
about
the
folks
that
are
serving
on
boards
and
commissions
to
make
sure
they
represent
the
diversity
of
the
city.
C
C
You
know,
Palm
Springs
has
a
reputation
for
being
a
a
very
LGBTQ,
inclusive,
City
and
that's
demonstrated
by
the
folks
sitting
in
front
of
us
today
and-
and
we
also
know
that
there
are
LGBTQ
folks
of
color,
and
so
we've
had
Ron
Oden
as
mayor,
and
so
are.
Our
LGBTQ
folks
of
color,
represented
on
boards
and
commissions,
are
renters
represented
on
boards
and
commissions.
C
Our
lower-income
folks
are
working
force,
folks
represented
on
boards
and
commissions,
and
so
we've
outlined
a
set
of
recommendations
to
address
each
of
these,
to
make
sure
that
our
boards
and
commissions
aren't
just
full
of
folks
who
represent
the
same
communities
with
the
same
lived
experiences.
I
think
the
working
group
has
a
has
a
deep
understanding
that
the
more
diverse
experiences
we
have
in
governing
bodies
and
in
spaces
that
are
making
recommendations
or
have
the
ear
of
the
council
the
better
and
more
innovative
and
exciting
solutions.
C
H
K
So
my
name
is
Dixie
Miller
and
after
careful
study
and
research,
the
five
electoral
district
voting
system
will
work
or
our
community
opposed
to
four
districts.
My
districts
gives
minorities
a
greater
opportunity
to
become
elected
for
council
with
less
people
than
a
poor
district.
The
five
districts
will
encourage
more
minorities
to
run
for
Council
and
have
a
greater
opportunity
of
being
elected.
Five
districts
also
clarifies
the
position
and
power
the
mayor
and
making
the
position
of
mayor
more
understandable
than
it
has
been
in
the
past.
K
I
I
The
process
employed,
the
process
employed
by
the
working
group
has
been
thorough
and
significantly
the
outreach
to
the
citizenry.
The
community's
interest,
the
education
of
the
communities
of
interest
and
the
involvement
of
and
feedback
from
the
communities
of
interest
has
been
comprehensive.
You
can
and
I
hope
you
will
rely
with
confidence
on
these
recommendations.
L
J
J
Yes,
the
following
to
say,
as
migration
patterns
continue
to
increase
ethnic,
racial
and
religious
diversity
within
regions
and
demographics
continue
to
change
accordingly,
we're
experiencing
growing
tensions
between
that
which
is
pluralistic
or
poly
cultural
on
the
one
hand,
and
what
is
assimilationist
or
monte
cultural
on
the
other,
its
the
mosaic
versus
the
melting
pot.
It's
the
transnational
versus
the
particularist,
it's
the
cosmopolitan
versus
the
tribal,
it's
the
inclusive
versus
the
restrictive,
and
it's
the
empathic
versus
the
racist.
These
tensions
impact
social
and
public
policies
and
relationships
within
and
between
communities.
J
They
also
affect
conversations
about
representation
and
storytelling,
which
stories
get
told
how
and
by
whom.
This
tells
us
a
lot
about
a
geographic
areas
self-perception
and
how
images
such
as
the
statue
in
front
of
City,
Hall
and
power,
such
as
our
Council,
are
distributed
in
that
area.
So
how
is
this
relevant
to
us
tonight?
Well,
we
as
the
working
group
we've
gone
out
and
listened
to
all
these
stories
to
come
up
with
the
conclusions
that
we've
given
you.
The
synergies
were
unbelievable
trust
me.
J
It
was
just
unbelievable:
the
participation
from
the
community,
so
what
I'm
asking
is
that
you
try
your
best
tonight
to
reach
a
true
consensus
on
our
findings.
Moving
to
five
districts
here
in
Palm
Springs
without
a
mayor,
elected
at-large
will
not
be
a
zero-sum
game.
Nor
is
it
a
disenfranchisement
of
the
majority,
because
we
are
a
majority
of
minorities.
J
If
anything,
adding
additional
minority
voices
will
continue
these
synergies
and
only
make
us
stronger
in
our
progressive
global
brand.
We
have
rare
window
of
opportunity
to
once
again
show
our
leadership
to
the
nation.
If
we
can't
show
the
rest
of
the
world
how
to
get
this
to
work
and
work
correctly,
who
the
hell
can
that's
all
I'm
saying.
Thank
you.
H
B
Just
want
to
say
that
it's
been
really
fantastic.
Working
with
this
group
of
people,
they're
very
diverse
I
had
no
idea
that
they
would
all
participate
in
as
many
community
events
as
we
held
when
I
did
some
simple,
math
I
came
out
to
the
fact
that
this
group
has
probably
put
in
over
600
hours
of
work
towards
this
project.
B
H
A
B
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
members,
the
council,
members
of
the
working
group,
city
clerk
city
manager
and
the
public.
This
is
Jim
priest,
his
true
name's
William,
but
we
call
him
Jim
and
he
is
our
planning
Commissioner
legal
counsel.
He
also
happens
to
be
within
his
very
significant
law:
firm
in
the
world
of
municipal
law,
one
of
their
leading
voting
rights
experts,
so
he's
been
invaluable
to
me.
B
M
C
B
A
Already
thought
about
that?
Thank
you
all
right.
So
the
next
thing
we
will
do
was
open
to
public
comments,
but
right
now,
how
many
do
we
I'm
not
seeing
anybody
up
here?
No
yeah
other
they
were
okay.
We
have
people
lined
up
to
speak
at
this
time.
We
will
accept
public
comments
and
this
time
it's
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
City
Council
only
on
this
study
session
item
and
your
time
is
limited
to
two
minutes.
Unless
you
guys
want
to
make
an
exception
time.
E
A
D
Good
evening,
mayor
and
city
council
members,
my
name
is
Alan
Carvalho
I'm
from
Cathedral
City.
My
husband
is
a
city
councilor
in
Cathedral,
City
I
have
to
compliment
this
group
Wow.
We
could
have
used
you.
We
just
became
a
city
that
is
doing
districting
and
I
have
to
say
we
also
went
with
five
districts.
D
The
mayor
and
the
City
Council
were
really
instrumental
in
moving
this
forward.
Of
course,
we
were
under
the
lawsuit,
but
the
decision
to
go
to
five
instead
of
four
mayor
Henry
realized
how
much
how
powerful
it
was
to
have
an
effective
City
Council
that
worked
so
well
together.
It
really
everything
he
does
as
mayor.
He
likes
to
deflect
and
share
the
responsibility
of
some
of
those
duties
of
being
mayor.
D
So,
instead
of
him
being
bogged
down
with
all
these
obligations
that
perhaps
your
this,
your
mayor
moon,
is
that
really
gave
him
thought
to
realize
how
important
it
was
for
people
working
together
as
a
as
an
effective
council
really
having
it
five
so
that
there
is
no
elected
mayor,
but
instead
chosen
amongst
those
it's
an
elected
mayor
because
you're
electing
a
city
council
member,
so
it
isn't
taking
the
freedom
away.
I
think
people
get
misunderstood.
D
They
think
oh
well,
you're,
taking
my
freedom
away,
no
you're
electing
a
fifth
City
Council
member,
and
what
and
since
you've
decided
that
those
five
people
are
qualified,
you're,
finding
qualified
people
to
become
mayor
as
well,
so
we
had
to
do
some
convincing
in
getting
people
to
understand
what
was
required.
We
were
thrilled
with
what
we're.
Now
we
have
we're
still
in
the
process
now
we're
having
our
first.
D
A
O
Mr.
mayor
councilmembers
I'm
here
to
talk
about
a
recommendation,
the
working
groups
report
that
I
feel
very
strongly
about,
and
that
is
the
issue
of
City
Council's
salaries
since
I've
been
on
the
Planning
Commission
I
have
seen
firsthand
how
many
meetings
our
council
members
attend
daily.
In
addition
to
preparing
for
an
attending
council
meetings,
there
are
numerous
ad
hoc
subcommittee
meetings
that
council
members
attend.
O
There
are
also
various
community
meetings,
constituent
meetings,
staff
meetings,
city
and
valley-wide,
Commission
meetings,
study
sessions
and
interviews
of
candidates
for
the
city's
many
boards
and
commissions,
among
other
things,
removing
barriers
from
serving
on
the
City
Council
is
a
key
goal
of
the
current
process.
Addressing
the
issue
of
inadequate
council
salaries
will
allow
for
greater
participation
from
diverse
communities
such
as
minorities,
low
and
middle
income
residents.
O
Parents
with
young
children,
people
with
disabilities,
young
people
and
others
Palm
Springs
is
no
longer
the
sleepy
Hollywood
hideaway
of
the
1940s
City
Council
members
now
serve
full-time
roles
devoting
time
during
the
standard
work
day
and
evenings
to
fill
their
duties
to
the
community.
This
makes
holding
an
additional
full-time
or
part-time
job
very
difficult.
However,
the
annual
salary
of
a
council
member
is
twenty
nine
thousand
one
hundred
and
ninety-six
dollars
once
rent
or
mortgage
utilities,
food,
gas
and
other
basic
expenses
are
calculated.
There
is
virtually
nothing
left
for
a
single
person,
much
less
a
family.
O
This
largely
limits
the
pool
of
candidates
to
those
that
are
independently,
wealthy
or
retired.
In
order
to
encourage
more
resident
participation
in
elections
and
a
broader
array
of
candidates,
the
working
group
recommends
increasing
the
salary
of
the
City
Council
from
a
stipend
to
a
subsistence
level.
O
Some
options
for
consideration
include
half
the
salary
of
a
member
of
the
California
State
Legislature,
which
would
be
fifty
two
thousand
five
hundred
or
the
median
household
income
for
Palm
Springs,
which
would
be
forty
six
thousand
seven
hundred
sixty
or
the
current
minimum
salary
for
exempt
workers
in
California,
which
is
forty-five
thousand
seven
hundred
and
sixty
dollars.
All
salaries
should
be
indexed
for
inflation,
with
an
additional
amount
for
the
mayor,
such
as
the
twelve
thousand
three
hundred
and
forty
mayor
currently
serves
for
ceremonial
duties.
O
Some
will
complain
that
this
proposal
is
a
budget
buster,
but
the
total
cost
for
increasing
council
salaries,
but
it
would
be
approximately
eighty
five
thousand
dollars
a
year.
I
strongly
believe
that
this
is
a
reasonable
amount
amount
of
money
to
spend,
to
ensure
that
people
of
all
backgrounds
and
circumstances
are
financially
able
to
serve
on
the
City
Council.
Thanks.
M
Good
good
evening,
my
name
is
Kevin
Francis
born
and
raised
in
Palm
Springs
California
on
the
north
side,
I
have
the
pleasure
of
working
at
chi-chi's
and
Palm
Springs.
An
amazing
restaurant
I
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
a
few
City
Council
members
in
regards
to
the
districts
I'm,
not
very
knowledgeable
when
it
comes
to
as
much
as
you
guys
were
talking
about
today,
but
I
did
my
best
first
off.
Let
me
honor
each
and
every
one
of
you
for
everything
that
you
guys
have
done.
M
I
think
it
is
a
amazing
thing
not
only
as
a
black
man
but
giving
the
north
and
an
opportunity
to
speak
out.
My
grandmother
has
lived
there
for
many
years.
I
remember
the
times
where
she
didn't
there
wasn't
in
any
roads.
So
we
have.
We
are
that
we
are
Palm,
Springs
and
I.
Think
breaking
those
out
is
going
to
be
a
great
opportunity
and
I
want
to
be
able
to
sit
where
you
are
one
day.
So
how
do
we
do
that?
M
I
Good
evening,
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work.
Well,
I'm,
all
for
it,
because
if
we
have
a
council
member
representing
each
district,
then
the
neighborhood
associations
are
going
to
hold
that
council
members
feet
to
the
fire.
With
regard
to
the
one
thing
that
we
never
hear
up
there,
crime
look
just
take
my
word
for
it:
I
do
not
solicit
anyone.
I
am
still
in
litigation
with
Eisenhower
I,
do
not
and
cannot
bring
it
up.
Okay,
I
have
settled
with
one
person:
okay
and
I'm
on
a
gag
order.
I
There
I
am
Telling
You
everywhere,
I
go
in
the
last
two
weeks.
There's
been
six
people
pops
up
here
and
they're
in
here
and
I'm
at
the
brows
down
right
down
the
street
here
and
this
woman
jumped
in
front
of
me
and
grabbed
the
paper.
What
was
the
article
about
the
police
transparency?
You
know
all
coming
up
on
the
ballot.
She
grabbed
the
paper.
I
said:
oh,
you
too,
she
said
we
are
fed
up.
I
said
crime,
yeah
I
said:
what
do
you
live
right
over
there?
I
You
guys
have
got
to
become
more
conscientious
of
it.
It
is
embarrassing,
it
is
a
disclosure,
that's
the
biggest
thing
that
has
been
lost
on
all
of
you
and
I
have
not
had
the
chance
to
talk
to
you
about
it.
It's
a
disclosure,
okay
and
I-
spoke
to
Miss
holstege
and
mr.
Coors.
Before
the
meeting
and
I
guess
you
haven't
heard
the
shootout
two
nights
ago
and
my
friend
called
him.
I
said
you
live,
he
said
yep.
We
thought
we
heard
six
or
seven
shots
of
the
guy
from
Cathedral
City
running.
You
know
across
mr.
I
Chino,
bang,
bang,
bang,
bang,
bang,
bang,
bang,
bang
shot
and
killed
crashes.
The
car
then,
of
course,
and
I'll
just
end
on
this
horrible
note
and
our
illustrious
newspaper
to
cover
it.
Our
joy
Pond,
fleeced
by
the
caregiver,
the
so
called
whatever
they
called
themselves
to
the
tune
of
what
let's
see
here,
four-point.
What
was
a
three
three
million
for
up
three
million
dollar
fraud
of
widow?
A
A
P
Good
evening
mayor
moon
and
City
Council
members,
my
name
is
Carl
Baker
I'm,
an
attorney
at
desert,
AIDS,
Project
and
also
I
would
like
to
thank
the
subcommittee,
the
working
group
for
their
hard
work.
I
help
on
some
of
the
ethics
committee,
so
I
know
the
time
and
dedication
it
took
to
put
into
this,
and
thank
you
for
that.
I
echo
the
resolve
the
resolution
that
they
proposed
five
districts.
P
Q
For
me,
it's
clear
this
is
the
best
direction
for
our
city
and
it
closer
aligns
to
the
goals
of
the
CBR.
A
this
will
increase
the
cohesiveness
and
the
unity
of
all
five
council
members
as
a
whole.
I
believe
this
will
create
improved
synergy
within
our
counts
and
is
the
community's
best
interest.
If
we
truly
want
to
enhance
representation.
Q
Passing
the
gavel
amongst
everyone
on
the
council
creates
inclusiveness,
it's
fair.
It's
simple
and
it's
equal,
we'll
see
a
variety
of
leadership,
different
backgrounds
and
strengthen
the
level
of
cooperation
within
council
within
the
five
districts.
I'm,
very
optimistic
that
we'll
see
a
more
civically
engaged
community,
whether
it's
by
voting
running
for
office
or
simply
by
having
confidence
to
approach
their
representative
within
that
district.
Q
The
rotating
of
leadership
positions
is
not
a
novel
idea.
It's
actually
a
common
practice
in
businesses
and
in
many
trade
organizations.
Already
many
local
governments
like
this,
like
decennial
County,
have
an
unofficial
policy
of
rotation
that
has
been
quite
successful
and
I
think
it
could
be
very
successful.
Here
too,
we
are
fortunate
to
have
a
place
with
an
exceptional
city
manager
and
a
functional
city
staff
that
will
continue
to
carry
on
the
day-to-day
operations
that
our
city
needs.
So
our
city
will
not
suffer.
Our
city
will
not
lose
out.
Q
A
B
Mr.
mayor
Mayor
Pro
Tem,
Roberts
Council
and
CVRA
I'd
like
to
start
by
thanking
the
CVRA
members
and
Anthony
for
coming
to
four
seasons
on
a
hot
Saturday
afternoon.
When
I
know
you
wanted
to
be
someplace
else,
but
instead
you
spent
time
with
us
sharing
the
maps,
sharing
the
reason
for
the
map
and
the
need
for
the
change
it
was
very
well
received
in
our
community
thanks
you
very
much
for
spending
the
time
with
us.
I
support
the
recommendation
of
five
districts
with
respect
to
I'm.
B
Sorry
in
an
effort
to
reach
a
stronger
minority
majority,
five
district
seems
to
be
the
best
current
choice.
In
fact,
going
forward.
I
would
challenge
the
next
to
seek
the
vote
of
the
public,
to
move
to
seven
district
city
council
in
an
effort
to
distribute
the
workload
of
sub
ad
hoc,
valley-wide
committees,
Commission,
liaisons
and
other
commitments
of
the
elected.
Possibly
then
some
of
the
committees
could
meet
more
frequently
and
not
place
undue
burden
on
the
elected
today.
B
I
am
at
many
meetings
that
most
of
the
council
members
that
are
at,
and
it's
just
really
troubling
to
think
these
people
didn't
necessarily
seek
out
a
full-time
job
and
yet
they're
everywhere,
so
I.
Thank
you
very
much
for
what
you're
doing
I
hope
that
we
can
grow
this
to
a
slightly
larger
group
and
in
further
elections.
Thank
you.
Thank.
F
Good
evening
my
name
is
bill.
Clements
I
have
lived
for
21
years
on
the
freeway
known
as
racket
club
and
I
have
several
items
I'd
like
to
point
out
to
your
get
my
input
into
number
one
I
don't
know
if
you're
planning
on
a
general
referendum
on
this
issue
with
a
citizenry
but
I,
think
the
people.
If
you're
going
to
change
the
system
of
representation,
you
really
need
to
have
the
citizens
decide
that's
what
they
want,
regardless
of
potential
lawsuits.
F
The
second
is
the
idea
of
a
rotating
the
city.
Mayor
I,
think
that's
an
excellent
idea,
my
recommendation
that
it
would
be
rotated.
Everybody
takes
a
turn
everybody's
in
order.
You
don't
have
to
have
any
conflict
about
voting
who's
up
and
who's.
Not
the
assistant
mayor
or
mayor
pro-tem
is
the
next
in
line,
and
you
just
keep
going
through
each
member
very
simple.
F
The
major
issue
for
me
is
the
idea
that
people
can
only
vote
for
those
people
in
their
district
that
really
cuts
down
the
I
think
the
interest,
but
also
the
breadth
of
the
public
input
I,
would
recommend
that
the
members
here
members
here
look
at
having
the
primary
election
in
each
district
and
then
the
two
top
voters
to
go
to
the
general
election.
They
would
still
be
from
the
district,
but
everybody
in
the
city
would
have
an
input
in
who
they
wanted.
F
That
I
think
is
fair.
It
makes
sure
that
the
councilmembers
know
that
they
have
to
pay
attention
to
each
and
every
citizen,
not
just
those
in
their
district
and
make
sure
that
the
members
of
the
city
can
go.
The
citizens
can
go
to
any
councilmembers
and
not
be
referred.
There
was
a
comment
about
districts
in
Congress
and
Senate
congressman
if
they
get
this
way
used
to
be
anyway
congressman
if
they
get
a
question
and
our
input
from
someone
not
from
their
district
will
hand
it
off
to
the
person
in
that
district.
H
F
It
on
to
that
senator
from
that
state
keep
everybody
responsible
on
the
board,
keep
all
the
citizens
involved
in
voting
for
each
person.
That
would
be
my
strongest
recommendation
and
the
last
thing
is
salary.
We
would
have
to
change
from
stipend,
then
to
salary,
but
I,
don't
think
that's
a
bad
idea.
I
would
encourage,
even
perhaps
before
we
get
there
like
the
City
Council
members
and
mayor
of
course,
have
me.
F
R
Evening,
members
Council
and
the
committee-
and
you
know,
I'm
a
43
year
resident
of
the
city
of
Palm
Springs,
there's
seven
seats
up
there
used
to
be
seven
council
members.
We
used
to
have
a
rotating
mayor
with
seven
members
of
council
and
I
wonder.
If
your
committee
looked
into
the
seven
members
it
would
actually
create.
R
We
had
drawn
districts
back
in
1974,
what's
really
really
burning
all
minorities
and
when
the
city
was
had
them
all
over
the
place
and
and
for
your
information
section
14
was
not
a
product
of
moving
people
out
by
council.
It
was
one
minority
community
that
put
the
other
minority
community
out
of
their
home
out
of
the
off
their
land.
We've
had
minorities
ever
since
I've
been
here.
We've
had
different
minorities,
whether
you
want
to
call
them
by
race,
by
religion
or
by
sexual
orientation,
but
they've
been
on
this
council
ever
since.
R
Actually
the
70s
there's
been
one
person
here,
whether
it
be
a
woman,
we've
had
a
tribal
member.
We've
had
you
know
various
people,
and
my
only
suggestion
here
is
I.
Don't
have
I'm
the
writer
I'm
one
of
the
leaders
of
the
group
that
brought
the
directly
elected
mayor's
here.
I
was
the
chairman
of
pret
citizens,
united
and
my
suggestion
was
I.
Don't
have
a
problem
with
the
districts.
I
think
districts
work
better,
but
you
might
look
at
seven
number
one
number
two:
it
will
bring
you
more
minority
in
the
district
itself
and
number
two.
R
R
A
S
Hello
good
evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
michelle
castillo.
I
stand
here
tonight
as
a
local
community
leader
activist
and
one
of
the
core
organizers
for
bayanihan
community
community
outreach
I'd
like
to
share
a
little
bit
of
what
it
means
to
to
have
those
kind
of
events
when
it
comes
to
making
these
important
decisions
in
our
city
and
to
make
sure
that
everyone
is
included
not
just
some
groups,
not
just
some
groups,
but
all
of
them.
S
The
word
bayanihan
means
to
me
a
community
krump,
coming
together
acceptance,
warmth
and
empowerment
and
when
I
think
of
a
community
coming
together,
I
think
of
inclusive
inclusivity
and
a
growing
awareness
to
uplift,
marginalized
voices
and
all
communities
to
me,
bayanihan
the
word
and
the
spirit
is
a
place
where
we
can
all
feel
accepted.
I
grew
up
here
in
Palm
Springs
and
to
my
blessing
and
fortune
I
was
born
in
the
dynamic
neighborhood,
a
veteran's
tract
comprised
of
Filipino
and
Latino
families.
S
It
was
there
where
I
learned
the
first
definition
of
what
community
means
through
the
woman
in
my
family
that
raised
me
and
the
food
and
the
love
that
I
found
in
my
Lola's
cocina,
which
means
grandmother's
kitchen.
We
will
be
moving
forward
as
bayanihan
collective
and
one
of
our
goals
is
to
bridge
the
historically
deep
gaps
of
cultivating
these
healthier
and
sustainable
relationships.
When
I
think
of
outreach
event
should
not
happen
as
a
one-off
experience,
but
an
ongoing
understanding
of
how
we
can
help
each
other
and
how
we
can
push
forward
together.
S
We
can
come
together
and
start
to
continue
building
those
bridges
of
accessibility,
communication
and
transparency
to
all
the
communities
of
color
who
are
going
to
be
impacted
by
the
districting
process
and
not
just
that,
but
all
the
ongoing
social
and
political
issues
that
we
have
here
so
again,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
your
time
and,
yes,
I
really
hope
we
can
do
that.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
K
You
need
to
support
more
efforts
to
reach
marginalized
communities
in
a
city
founded
on
de
facto
and
de
jure
segregation.
As
we've
been
talking
about
more
about
section
14
as
well.
I
was
born
in
1971
at
desert
hospital,
yes,
I
said:
desert
hospital
attended,
Cielo,
Vista
Elementary
was
bustin
nelly
and
Coffman
middle
school
in
Cathedral
City
and
graduated
from
Palm
Springs
High
School
in
1989.
That
was
the
educational
journey,
so
many
of
my
dear
friends
from
the
veterans
tract
or
desert
Trek
neighborhood
demuth
park
and
poppings
youth
center
kept
us
busy
and
fit.
K
We
were
all
experienced,
we
all
experienced
the
daily
and
historic
separations,
especially
along
race
and
class
and
neighborhoods
after
attending
college.
At
the
University
California
Riverside.
He
pursued
a
curatorial
career
for
20
years
in
New,
York
City
fast
forward,
I
returned
to
Palm
Springs
four
years
ago
and
now
I'm,
my
mother
and
father's
caregiver
at
home,
and
it
is
a
love
and
supportive
family
and
also
church
family
that
have
been
so
supportive.
K
As
my
parents,
age,
bayanihan,
is
found
found
in
the
tight
sphere
in
this
tight
spirit
that
amazing
feeling
of
knowing
your
mother
was
in
good
hands
during
her
temporary
nursing
home
state
months
ago,
because
her
best
friend
nana
josephine,
Madrid's
daughter,
Esther
Kwan.
Yes,
that's
Judah,
sequins
mother,
who
coordinate
whoo
cork
organized
our
bayanihan
event.
Was
there
as
a
lead.
Nurse
I
grew
up
with
the
Madrid
family.
K
Bayanihan
is
returning
the
sustainable
support
and
love
for,
for
instance,
in
buying
groceries
at
AJ
market,
which
has
been
owned
and
run
by
mana,
Esther's,
husband,
mano,
Aurelio
and
yes,
staffed
by
their
daughters.
Bayanihan
is
in
is,
in
the
countless
times
our
households,
our
households,
exchange,
homegrown
fruits
and
vegetables.
Working
with
Judith
sequin
generalizer
Ramon,
yes
she's,
my
niece
and
Michelle
Castillo
I'm,
almost
done
on
the
community
outreach
event
at
the
DeMuth
Park
Community
Center
has
been
aspiring
on
so
many
levels
and
was
designed
to
bridge
the
filipino
communities
to
City
Hall.
K
K
A
S
Evening,
mayor
moon
city,
council,
members
of
the
working
group,
my
name
is
Naomi
Soto
I'm
a
resident
here
in
Palm,
Springs
and
I'm.
An
anomaly
I
am
latina,
I
am
millennial
but
I'm
not
from
the
desert
originally,
but
I've
decided
to
build
my
career
here
and
also
build
my
life
here.
My
congratulations
and
sincere
appreciation
to
the
working
group.
The
findings
are
extremely
thorough
and
really
provide
a
guide
post
or
a
guidebook
for
the
city
to
really
have
a
legislative
body
that
represents
the
population.
S
So
thank
you
I'm
fully
supportive
of
a
five
council
five-member
council.
This
will
help
us
achieve
the
kind
of
the
goals
that
you've
outlined.
I
did
kind
of
have
a
question
or
inquiry
for
the
working
group
and
also
for
the
City
Council
to
consider
around.
If
you
found
any
cities
or
there
were
certain
parameters
or
conditions
that
made
it
more
feasible
to
move
for
to
a
ranking
choice,
voting
system,
you
know
I
recognize
we're
shooting
for
some
big
goals
here
and
you
know
I
think
they're.
S
S
I'm
a
52
year
resident
of
the
Coachella
Valley
and
a
22
year
resident
of
Palm
Springs
I,
have
attended
several
of
the
community
outreach
meetings
on
redistricting
and
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
many
Palm
Springs
residents.
Most
every
single
person,
I've
spoken
to
has
been
extremely
enthusiastic
about
having
a
five
district.
S
Five
districts
they've
been
very
excited
about,
being
represented
and
being
their
communities,
in
particular,
being
representative
represented,
I'm
very
excited
about
the
five
districts
as
well
and
I
look
forward
to
doing
whatever
I
can
doing
my
part
to
help
in
any
way
possible
to
make
it
successful.
I
am
a
person
of
color
I'm,
Mexican
I
I
have
always
tried
very
hard
to
be
a
leader
if
I
can
I
in
in
whatever
small
way.
I
can
do
that.
S
I
bring
this
up
only
because
to
me
when
I'm
able
to
see
someone
that
looks
like
me
in
a
leadership
position,
it
encourages
me
to
be
involved.
I
know
that
in
my
school
at
Katherine
Fincher,
where
I
work,
when
I
decided
to
take
a
leadership
role,
it
immediately
brought
the
Latino
community
to
become
more
involved.
That's
all
it
took,
it
seems
simple,
but
it's
important.
It's
really
important
that
up
there
I
can
see
a
face
that
looks
like
mine.
S
A
N
N
I
think
that
would
give
minorities
the
best
chance
at
being
elected
to
office
and,
like
I,
said,
I
support
a
minority
district
with
black
Hispanics
and
the
Filipinos
I
think
that
we
have
common
interests
as
far
as
children
in
school
education
levels,
income
levels
and
geographic
isolation.
That's
one
of
the
big
things
that
I
want
to
touch
on.
It's
been
said
up
here
earlier
about
being
marginalized
and
pushed
to
the
edges
of
town
and
I.
Just
think
those
areas
are
underserved
and
underrepresented,
so
I'd
like
to
see
someone
represent
them.
Thanks
Thank.
A
M
You
mayor,
thank
you,
City
Council.
Thank
you
to
the
workgroup
right
here.
I,
too,
am
in
support
of
the
five
districts
remapping
of
the
city
and
the
rotating
mayor.
I
think
we
have
a
unique
opportunity
in
Palm
Springs
to
really
sort
of
build
a
city.
That's
going
to
to
engage
everybody
so
we'll
see
a
different
face
across
the
City
Council,
with
different
backgrounds
and
ethnicities,
which
I
think
is
very
important
to
our
city
to
our
future
growth,
and
so
that
we
can
include
everybody.
M
A
E
E
Kathy
and
I
have
known
each
other
for
here
and
work
together
and
off
table
and
and
and
and
I
know,
and
you
guys
just
did
an
amazing
job
and
and
I
want
to.
Thank
you.
I
I
know
we're
really
gonna,
discuss
this
and
come
to
votes
next
week,
but
as
I
walk
through
your
report,
I
don't
have
my
usual
30
stickies
and
questions
you
pretty
much
got
to
those
answers.
Thank
you
as.
H
I
say
something
very
quickly
in
response
time:
Roberts
can
I
just
echo
the
praise,
Mayor
Pro
Tem
Roberts
just
offered,
but
offer
it
to
the
members
of
the
community
that
just
showed
up
and
and
contributed
to
our
conversation
today,
and
let
me
say
this
in
very
personal
terms.
Today
was
a
rotten
day.
Today
was
a
day
where
the
United
States
was
subjected
to
a
rehearsal
of
a
discussion
about
sexual
assault.
That
I
found
a
brutal
experience
and
I.
H
T
We
got
so
much
more
term
out
so
much
more
engagement
and
when
we
get
to
maps
so
many
more
maps
because
of
the
outreach
and
so
I
think
it's
really
important
to
highlight
that
one
of
the
thing
I
want
to
just
point
out,
while
everyone's
here
is
that
we
extended
our
boards
and
commissions
terms.
So,
instead
of
putting
new
people
in
on
July
1st,
that's
gonna
be
January
1st.
So
during
this
process
we
were
able
to
talk
at
the
various
meetings
about
how
to
apply
for
boards
and
commissions
and
I
know.
T
T
Definitely
think
if
someone
doesn't
want
to
serve
they
shouldn't,
because
if
someone
doesn't
want
to
do
the
extra
ceremonial
duties
they
shouldn't
have
to,
but
one
of
my
concerns
is
that
that
could
have
the
impact
of
disenfranchising
the
minority
members
of
council
or
causing
will
always
stick
together
and
we'll
you
know
three
people
will
just
rotate
through
so
I
just
have.
Did
you
talk
about
that
and
what
were
your
thoughts?
What.
G
What
we
we
did
talk
about
it,
the
I,
think
the
reason
we
said:
it's
don't
formalize
it.
You
could
develop
a
rotation
system,
but
allow
yourself
to
have
some
exceptions
in
it.
So
someone
may
not
want
to
serve.
Someone
may
be
ill.
Someone
may
want
to
serve
at
a
different
period
in
time
and
a
lot
of
the
markers
that
communities
use
didn't
necessarily
work
like
highest
vote.
Getter.
G
The
other
thing
is
that
if
you,
you
might
have
a
rotation
system
where
there's
someone
that
no
one
gets
along
with,
and
you
don't
have
confidence
in
them
and
I
hate
to
say
say
that,
but
there
may
be
I
came
from
Santa
Monica,
so
we
actually
had
a
couple
of
people
that
didn't
get
a
didn't
get
elected
in
their
rotation
because
they
didn't
get
along
with
anybody
else
on
council,
so
I
I.
It
just
gives
you
a
little
bit
of
flexibility.
G
T
G
H
But
there's
probably
going
to
be
a
need
to
have
a
really
sort
of
clear
and
sustained
civic
education
around
that.
If
that's
the
direction
you
all
decide
to
go
in,
so
that
you
don't
wind
up
having
people
who
would
otherwise
be
great
City
Council
candidates
who
just
opt
out
because
they
think
that
part
of
the
deal
is
that
they
have
to
perform
the
mayor
functions
as
well.
Great.
T
That'll
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
Thank
you.
Two
questions
just
in
there
I
think
brief
for
our
legal
counsel.
One
is
which
I
didn't
know
about.
Until
today,
when
I
read
an
article
on
it
was
well
actually
know
if
that's
another
one,
so
we'll
do
three
quick
legal
things.
One
is
that
there's
a
bill
that
passed
the
legislature,
that
is
at
the
governor's
desk
that
would
allow
legislators
not
to
live
in
the
district
they're,
representing
as
at
least
as
I
I,
didn't
read
the
villa
or
the
article
is
that
limited.
T
T
So
the
Legislature
passed
a
bill
in
California,
the
policy
I
think
Kathy
explained
it
is
you
have
to
live
in
the
district?
You
represent
the
Legislature
passed
a
bill
saying
at
least
they
don't
have
to
do
that.
It
hasn't.
P
T
T
M
They
have
both
a
home
in
their
original
in
their
district.
They
have
a
home
in
the
Sacramento
area
and
that
marker
of
having
a
second
home
and
a
spouse
or
family
that
is
seems
to
be
more
rooted
in
that
other
community
should
not
be
used
as
evidence
to
say
that
they
do
not
in
fact
live
within
their
district,
which
is
about
as
complicated
as
it
can
get.
Okay,.
T
The
other
thing
just
to
mention
and
make
sure
we
understand
it,
because
we
just
got
this
information
today,
but
the
issue
of
whether
charter
cities
need
to
move
to
even
your
elections
is
something
that
has
never
invaded
other
than
it's
being
litigated.
Now
in
Redondo
Beach
and
the
trial
court
ruled
that
charter
cities,
don't
that
you
have
control
over
your
municipal
affairs,
but
it's
really
early
in
the
process.
The
Attorney
General
issued
an
opinion.
That's
not
binding
on
any
court
that
it
is
required
for
charter
cities,
so
this
is
still
an
unknown.
T
P
The
Attorney
General
gave
an
opinion
last
year
indicating
that
charter
cities
are
subject
to
that.
Even
though
the
statute
itself
is
a
little
ambiguous
in
the
language,
we
were
sort
of
proceeding
on
that
understanding.
However,
the
city
of
Redondo
Beach
filed
an
action
earlier
this
year
to
challenge
that
and
got
a
trial
court
ruling
just
yesterday,
we're
still
trying
to
get
a
copy
of
the
order
it's
at
recent,
but
the
trial
judge
said
no
SB
415
does
not
apply
to
charter
cities.
T
B
For
you
to
make
that
decision
next
week
at
this
point
in
time,
given
the
council
and
the
subcommittee's
direction,
you're
trying
to
decide
whether
to
go
four
or
five
districts,
with
a
very
serious
eye
toward
defining
and
facilitating
making
easier
the
meetings
where
you'll
be
looking
at
multiple
Maps.
If
you're
looking
at
four
versus
five
districts,
that's
going
to
eliminate
certain
maps
and
perhaps
facilitate
a
better
discussion.
Thank.
T
You
and
my
last
question
is
and
I
read:
the
working
groups
view
that
five
districts
is
more
consistent
with
a
CVRA
and
the
memo
from
City
Attorney's,
and
there
was
something
that
confused
me
and
I'm.
Mr.
priest
I
think
was
a
primary
after
so
maybe
you
can't
explain
it
to
me
so
government
code,
section
three,
four,
eight
eight
six,
which
you
refer
to
and
the
memo
I,
don't
read
the
whole
thing.
T
P
Yes,
mr.
Corzo,
the
the
default
position
under
the
law
is,
if
you
amend
your
charter,
it's
got
to
go
to
an
election
okay
government
code,
three,
four,
eight
eight
six
is
a
special
rule.
The
legislature
passed
so
that
the
council
could
make
that
change
without
having
to
go
to
an
election.
It
could
be
done
by
an
ordinance
of
the
council.
Here.
You
do
have
to
make
the
finding
that
is
in
furtherance
of
the
CBR
A's
goals.
P
T
P
Four,
eight
eight
six
would
not
give
you
the
legal
shield.
Necessarily
we've
looked
in
this
quite
a
bit
of
detail,
a
four
plus
one
structure
would
not.
It
would
not
absolutely
insulate
the
city
of
the
way
a
five
district
structure
would
because
again
they
would
still
be
an
at-large
element.
What
we
can
say
is
that
there
are
a
number
of
cities
in
California,
including
ones
that
receive
demand
letters
from
the
same
attorney
that
sent
the
demand
letter
to
Palm
Springs
that
he's
agreeable
to
four
plus
one
structures.
P
Now,
that's
him!
That's
no
promise
that
you
know
another
attorney
or
another
group
could
not
come
along
and
and
raise
those
issues
because
there's
still
at
least
an
out
large
element.
We
also
think
from
a
substantive
standpoint.
You
know
if
you
went
to
a
four
plus
one
that
still
puts
you
in
a
better
legal
position.
Then,
if
you
just
stayed
out
large
across
the
board,
okay.
E
G
E
G
You
have
to
make
a
decision
by
December
30th
or
you
have
to
put
put
your
sister
new
government
in
place
by
December
30th.
You
have
a
charter
with
the
advice
of
the
City
Council
that
allows
you
to
have
five
city
councilors,
so
you
couldn't
get
to
December
30th
and
also
have
you'd
have
to
do
a
charter
change,
so
you
have
to
even
if
your
decision
was
you
wanted
to
go
to
seven,
you
would
have
to
go
to
of
four
plus
one
or
five
by
the
end
of
December
and
then
make
that
decision
later.
Thank.
E
G
We
looked
at
it
in
what
the
concern
I
think
we
had
with
it.
Was
that
the
if
you
have
about
10,000
voters
in
an
election
you're
getting
into
very
small
numbers
of
voters
in
your
districts?
If
you
go
to
seven
so
it
was.
It
was
more
that
you
how
hard
with
we
didn't
go
very
deeply
into
that,
because
we
didn't
think
that
decision
had
to
be
made.
But
we
were
also
concerned
about
how
small
the
districts
would
be
and
what
possibly
that
it
would
end
up
being
difficult
to
administer.
Did.
G
The
answer
is,
yes,
you
might
I
think
you
might
be
able
to
get
a
second
majora,
it's
possible
that
it
would.
It
would
facilitate
a
second
district
that
could
have
a
majority
minority
voting
age.
We,
since
we
had
no
seven
district
maps,
that's
not
really
something
we
could
look
at.
We
were
only
really
able
to
look
at
the
four
versus
five.
What.
C
That
said,
we
also
had
some
additional
conversation
that
was
brought
up
today,
which
is
this
idea
of
spreading
around
the
workload
you
know
with,
with
the
reality
of
ad
hoc
subcommittees
of
attending
different
Commission
meetings.
All
of
that
we
did
have
a
very
brief
discussion
on.
If
seven
districts
would,
you
know,
spread
that
workload
around
more
and
at
the
very
beginning
we
did
have
conversations
about
what
seven
districts
provide
more
opportunities
for
minority
communities.
C
One
of
the
difficulties
with
the
data
and
the
numbers
that
we're
facing
is
you
know,
there's
a
really
good
chance
of
getting
one,
and
also
one
isn't
enough.
One
one
can
feel
like
tokenizing.
One
can
feel
like,
like
the
issues
that
are
affecting
these
communities
are
not
elevated
where
they
need
to
be,
and
so
seven
districts
could
potentially
help
offset
that
and
provide
richer
discussions.
E
I
H
E
Sorry
no
I
was
just
defining,
though
the
method
of
selection
at
the
council
level.
I
was
more
wanting
to
get
a
sense,
a
clear
sense
from
you
and
calling
it
a
survey
just
because
you
were
out
meeting
with
so
many
people
in
the
community
and
concerned.
It
concerned
people
who
vote
and
care
on
their
take
on
this.
E
Might
what
I
got
from
this
particular
question
from
the
audience
was:
have
we
fully
vetted
that
issue
with
the
community
itself,
given
that
he
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
true,
we'd
have
to
look
into
it
that
he
referenced
I,
guess
a
vote
in
74,
or
maybe
it
was
71,
was
74
percent
I
forget
what
the
statistics
were.
I
just
wondered.
What
your
take
was
from
the
community.
H
So
let
me
just
say
two
things
quickly.
First,
I,
don't
think
that
we
can
responsibly
say
that
we
have
a
representative
sampling
of
community
input
on
this
question
we
worked
very
very
hard
to
get
the
broadest
input
that
we
could.
We
got
an
extraordinary
amount
of
input
as
a
scholar
I'm
not
prepared
to
say
it
is
a
sort
of
scientifically
representative
sample.
With
that
caveat,
the
overwhelming
input
that
we
got
was
that
there
was
a
preference
for
a
five
district
council
selected
mayor
system.
So
you
all
can
decide
how
much
that
weighs
into
your
deliberations.
E
G
E
That
you
make
a
very
strong
argument
for
a
council
elected
mayor
or
for
five
districts.
I
just
I
want
to
make
sure
we've
heard
clearly
from
the
community.
You
know
we
have
24
people
in
the
audience
tonight
and
I
know:
you've
met
with
hundreds
more
but
I'd
like
to
get
as
much
as
we
can
I'd
like
to
get
a
clearer
sense
from
the
community.
H
One
thing
I'll
mention
that
you
all,
if
you
do
take
that
idea
seriously
of
these
considering
having
this
be
a
referendum
issue,
is
that
there
is
a
a
feedback.
Loop
effect
that
you
might
want
to
worry
about
that.
If,
if
the
issue
of
five
versus
four
has
implications
for
the
dilution
of
minority
bloc
voting,
then
a
citywide
referendum
would
partake
of
that
problem,
potentially
and-
and
you
might
be,
having
the.