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A
C
B
D
F
G
So
what
we've
done
is
we've
gone
through
the
current
ordinance
and
we
made
a
lot
of
revisions
to
ensure
consistency
with
the
state.
As
you
know,
the
state
went
through
three
rounds
of
revisions
before
finally
adopting
their
final
set
of
regulations.
So
for
us
it
was
important
to
make
sure
that
we
had
symmetry
with
them,
so
we've
updated
our
definitions
and
added
new
definitions
are
consistent
with
the
state.
G
We've
added
an
entire
penalties
and
enforcement
mechanism
to
the
code,
which
did
not
exist
before,
which
is
extremely
important,
just
to
make
sure
for
our
legal
operators
that
they're
being
compliant
and
also
for
the
public.
We
have
added
some
odor
control
provisions
as
well
penalties
and
requirements.
G
H
So
the
Planning
Commission
discussed
changes
over
three
sessions,
starting
with
a
study
session
back
on
September,
the
11th
and
then
in
to
public
hearing
sessions
and
where
they
wound
up
in
terms
of
their
recommendations,
is
relative
to
four
different
areas,
and
let
me
go
through
those.
The
first
is
relative
to
separation
distance
requirements.
One
of
the
things
that
the
Planning
Commission
is
recommending
to
the
City
Council
subcommittee
is
that
there
be
a
minimum
1,000
foot,
distance
separation
between
cultivation,
type,
6
type,
7,
manufacturing
uses
and
residential
uses.
H
Secondly,
in
terms
of
commercial
districts-
and
this
is
for
dispensaries
and
lounges-
the
current
code
requirement
is
for
a
500
foot
separation,
distance
and
no
more
than
three
within
3000
feet.
What
the
Planning
Commission
is
recommended
is
just
to
maintain
the
500
foot,
separation,
distance
and
they've
actually
recommended
to
eliminate
the
three
within
3000
feet,
and
so
again,
that's
just
for
the
dispensaries
and
the
lounge
uses
in
terms
of
where
uses
are
permitted.
H
The
Planning
Commission
has
recommended
that
type,
6
and
type
7
manufacturing,
which
is
the
extraction,
processes
and
also
cultivation,
be
limited
to
the
I-10
corridor
area,
and
so
that
would
be
one
of
the
significant
changes
that
the
Planning
Commission
has
recommended
relative
to
those
particular
uses.
The
type
and
the
type
P
manufacturing
uses
would
still
be
allowed
in
all
manufacturing
zones
subject
to
separation
distance
requirements.
H
The
second
thing
that
the
Planning
Commission
worked
on
was
the
waiver
criteria.
Currently
we
allow
waivers
from
the
separation
distance
requirements,
but
we
don't
really
have
any
standards
for
doing
that,
and
so
the
Planning
Commission
has
recommended
a
number
of
standards,
including
including
the
time
period
for
which
the
building
has
been
vacant,
trying
to
encourage
the
use
of
vacant
properties.
H
Secondly,
they've
looked
at
having
a
requirement
relative
to
the
experience
of
the
applicant
in
running
a
cannabis
business
they're,
also
requiring
that
a
security
program
be
reviewed
and
approved
by
the
police
department
to
alleviate
any
impacts
that
might
come
from
a
separation,
distance
waiver
and
then
one
of
the
things
that
the
Planning
Commission
added
is
that
there
would
be
no
separation
distance
for
the
type
six
type
seven
and
cultivation
uses
from
residential.
So
they
don't
want
that
to
be
waived
and
to
maintain
the
separation
from
residential
districts.
H
Third
area
that
they
looked
at
was
notification
requirements.
What
the
Planning
Commission
is
recommended
is
that
cannabis
uses
post
the
properties
thirty
days
prior
to
any
public
hearing
or
any
approval
of
a
cannabis
permit,
and
then,
secondly,
that
notification
would
be
sent
out
to
residents
and
property
owners
within
a
thousand
feet
ten
days
prior
to
any
action
on
a
cannabis
application.
The
fourth
area
that
the
Planning
Commission
looked
at
was
relative
to
architectural
review,
requiring
architectural
review
for
all
cannabis
facilities
and
then
requiring
signage
review
by
the
architectural
advisory
committee.
H
So
those
were
the
four
key
areas
that
the
Planning
Commission
looked
at
again.
Separation
distance
was
one
of
the
key
issues
that
they
talked
about.
Trying
to
address
concerns
about
proximity
to
residential
areas.
There's
also
a
number
of
minor
administrative
changes
that
the
staff
is
recommending.
Number
one
is
relative
to
parking
requirements.
H
We
don't
have
parking
requirements
in
our
code
currently
for
all
types
of
cannabis
uses
and
so
we're
expanding
that
to
make
sure
that
that's
adequately
addressed
we're
also
moving
some
of
the
standards
from
the
zoning
code
to
the
Administrative
Code,
where
Veronica's
Department
will
administer
those
standards,
and
then
we
are
also
aligning
the
language
and
the
standards
in
the
zoning
code
with
the
Administrative
Code.
So
those
are
some
of
the
administrative
changes
and
that
summarizes
what
the
Planning
Commission
is
recommended
and.
I
Before
we
continue
with
that,
just
wanna,
so
folks
know
the
Planning
Commission
recommendations
are
not
subcommittee
recommendations,
that's
going
to
be
decided
by
the
whole
Council,
that's
how
the
process
works.
Some
of
them
are
probably
different
from
what
our
recommendations
were,
but
ultimately
that's
a
council
decision,
but
Planning
Commission
is
independent.
We
don't
ask
them
tell
them
what
to
do.
They'll
make
their
recommendations
and
the
full
council
make
decisions
on
anything
this
planning
relating
and
coming
through
the
Commission.
I
So
we
won't
weigh
in
until
the
council
meeting
on
that
and
today
the
goal
is
just
to
make
sure
everyone
knows
these
issues
and
can
give
us
feedback.
So
we
have
time
to
think
about
it
before
the
council
meeting.
Obviously
we
did
not
make
any
decisions
today
of
any
kind,
but
we
want
to
get
feedback
from
folks
and.
G
J
Okay,
so
I
guess
probably
most
germane
and
by
the
way,
I'm
Pat
Donegan
from
the
City
Attorney's
office.
I,
know
I'm
somewhat
of
a
new
face
here,
nice
to
meet
everyone.
The
the
the
new
ordinance
as
drafted
has
something
called
a
conditional
cannabis
permit
and
that's
kind
of
the
temporary
permit.
You
know
that
starts
the
process,
most
germane
to
the
operators,
and
so
what
what
that
will
be
is
that
that
kind
of
gets
your
foot
in
the
door
that
does
expire
in
12
months
for
existing
buildings
and
for
newly
constructed
buildings.
J
That's
it's
24
months
now.
Obviously
you
can
come
to
Council
for
a
waiver
and
that's
all
kind
of
laid
out
in
the
in
the
in
the
ordinance,
and
let
me
take
a
look
here
for
those
with
existing
permits-
those
expire
within
36
months.
That,
too
is
subject
to
you,
know:
waiver
to
the
council,
and
so
the
process
Veronica
would
be.
You
know
they
they
they
they
would
come
in,
apply,
get
the
conditional
cannabis
permit.
I
believe
you
was
that
chart
released,
okay
and
so
I
mean
that's
that's
basically
yet
echoing.
But
what
what?
J
J
K
This
is
prepared,
yes,
thank
you,
Laurie
kitty,
I'm,
with
Kings
Garden,
a
couple
of
things
I'm,
not
so
commenting
on
the
licensing
and
the
conditional
use
and
all
of
those
mine
are
kind
of
more
broad
issues.
I
noticed
that,
in
the
ordinance
things
related
to
people's
past
I
think
seems
inconsistent
with
the
social
equity
programs
that
are
now
being
implemented
across
the
state
you
reach
back
into
somebody's
past
almost
forever.
K
K
G
I
J
Apology
eyes
for
it
for
interrupting.
Is
that
specific
to
I,
guess
previous
cannabis,
related,
offenses
or
more
any
type
of
offenses,
because
I
know
that
in
the
ordinance
it
kind
of
from
what
I
understand
separates
those
two
that
kind
of
says,
if
you
have
any
type
of
you,
know
cannabis,
related,
offense
and
then
also
some
other
type
of
I
I,
guess
what
we
were
trying
to
get
at.
Is
you
know
fraud?
K
K
A
F
K
K
It
was
actually
a
little
complicated
to
understand
about
the
twenty
percent
Interest
financial
interest,
holder
versus
an
owner,
and
it's
just
in
my
reading
and
it
was
unclear
I
think
the
state
is
still
at
the
20
percent
for
control
or
financial
interest
holder
and
you
have
a
more
stringent
percentage
and
you
know
a
Kingsguard
and
given
it
has
210
investors
we
in
just
thinking
about
the
10
percent.
We
have
all
limited
partners
and
they
don't
really
have
much
say
so.
K
F
K
Just
to
think
about
the
changes
that
are
coming
to
the
industry
and
what's
happening
with
safe
banking
act
and
the
potential
for
now
private
equity
and
family
offices
involvement.
Since
some
of
the
larger
you
know
it's
going
to
become
commercialized,
just
thinking
ahead
as
to
what
that
might
mean
to
the
viability
of
some
organizations.
It's
just
something
to
think
about,
because
family
offices
and
private
equity
funds
are
going
to
be
way
less
are
going
to
be
more
reticent
about
disclosing
their
lists
now.
I
know.
K
G
K
Then
my
final
point
is
that
I
noticed
nowhere
in
the
ordinance.
Does
it
talk
about
proper
employment
of
employees?
Nowhere
does
it
ever
state
that
you
need
to
comply
with
state
law,
unemployment,
law,
wages,
anything
and
I
know.
That's
not
really
the
state.
You
think
it's
implied,
however,
we're
looking
at
an
industry
that
so
I'm
just
bringing
it
up
that
it
was
not
in.
D
D
J
D
Additionally,
I'm
just
curious
yeah,
that's
really
all
they've
got
right
now,
I'll
be
sending
all
my
written
stuff
in
so
I
really
appreciate
everything.
You've
been
doing,
and
and
oh
one
more
thing-
the
laws
are
changing
rapidly,
as
somebody
spoke
just
earlier
here,
I
think
you
should
address
the
future
federal
laws
that
will
be
taking
effect
because
you
guys
are
so
busy.
You
don't
know
when
you're
gonna
get
back
to
this
I
assure
you
have
been
in
DC.
Quite
a
bit.
D
Federal
laws
are
going
to
be
shifting
pretty
quickly
with
the
safe
baking
act
and
the
feds
are
gonna,
be
getting
involved,
and
you
know
we
would
just
want
to
keep
it
broad.
Just
like
you're
gonna,
keep
it
broad
for
the
state
laws
that
are
gonna
change
rapidly.
I
would
just
suggest
that
that's
all
I
have
thank
you.
I.
A
Adam
Spiker
I'm
with
the
Southern
California
Coalition
here
in
particular
a
representing
harvest
and
I
guess.
My
question
is
with
the
changes
you're
adopting,
they
all
make
sense,
complying
it
with
the
changing
state
laws,
and
you
know
having
to
at
least
hit
that
threshold.
My
question
would
be
what
part
of
your
changes
would
affect
a
pre-existing
operator
like
harvest
that's
already
operating
with
the
license.
So,
like
I,
hear
about
parking
changes
and
some
minor
zoning
changes
like
taking
the
three.
You
know
the
three
cap
away
from
3,000
feet.
A
H
Know
I'll
go
ahead
and
jump
in
there
on
that
question
in
terms
of
zoning
requirements,
any
changes
to
zoning
requirements.
It
won't
impact
existing
operating
businesses.
There
is
a
standard
practice
within
the
administration
of
zoning
regulations
that
uses
that
were
established
legally
under
the
city.
Zoning
laws
when
the
zoning
laws
change
they're
defined
as
legally
non-conforming
uses,
so
they
can
continue
to
operate
and
there
are
no
issues
relative
to
that.
So
it's
not
a
retro
Devore
dance.
Okay,.
F
D
F
L
L
My
only
kind
of
point
of
inquiry
or
point
of
clarification
is
to
wonder
how
or
if
the
council
is
deciding
to
kind
of
reiterate,
the
recent
signing
of
1291
and
its
language
into
this
ordinance
with
regards
to
labor
peace
agreements
and
seeing
if
there
might
be
any
willingness
to
kind
of
amplify
that
language
that
came
from
the
state
level
about
two
Fridays
ago.
That's
pretty
much
it.
Everything
else
seems
for
sure.
L
So
1291
has
essentially
now
given
a
little
bit
more
of
a
concrete
definition
as
to
who
can
have
an
active
station
letter
that
says
they
will
in
turn
the
labor
peace
agreement.
Reserved
now
for
folks
who
are
below
20
non
managerial
employees
versus
folks
now
who
are
above
20,
are
gonna,
have
to
have
a
60
day
window
or
face
possible
revocation
in
case
they're,
trying
to
get
a
renewal
for
their
next
year
and
so
just
want
to
make
sure
if
this
ordinance
is
gonna
kind
of
make
sure
it
afire
keeps
in
the
spirit
of
that.
I
So
we
have
a
draft
of
a
labor
peace
agreement
that
goes
beyond
what
state
law
is,
and
we've
looked
at.
What
other
cities
have
done,
and
we've
worked
with
your
folks
as
well,
and
so
the
city
attorney
has
that
has
some
several
drafts
that
were
forwarded
to
bring
a
draft
back
to
Council,
and
that
would
be
a
council
decision,
but
we
put
in
language,
they
made
it
clear.
You
have
to
comply
both
with
state
and
any
local
law
that
we
enact.
I
M
Good
morning
my
name
is
Onika
I'm,
also
with
UFCW,
so
United
Food
and
Commercial
Workers
Union
I
am
with
local
1167,
so
we're
the
local
that
is
here
in
both
Riverside
and
San
Bernardino
counties,
and
so
thank
you
again
for
including
the
labor
peace
language.
We
do
ask
that,
while
the
state
says
20,
we
are
looking
to
hopefully
lower
the
threshold
to
something
closer
to
5
and
I.
Know
yes,
and
so
yes,
so
labor
peace
agreement
basically
means
that
there's
an
agreement
that
should
come
into
so
the
state
right
now
requires.
M
If
you
have
20
or
more
non-managed
in
your
managerial
employee
employees,
you
have
to
enter
into
a
labor
peace
agreement
with
a
bonafide
union.
Basically
that
means
that
there's
an
agreement
between
the
employer
and
a
labor
union
like
UFCW,
where
the
employer
promises
not
to
interfere
with
workers,
attempt
to
organize
if
they
so
choose
so
and
then
the
Union
agrees
to
not
do
any
economic
sanctions
like
a
strike.
M
So
this
is
really
a
way
for
workers
in
the
industry
to
fully
choose
for
themselves
if
they
would
want
to
enter
into
a
union
or
organizing
effort
with
the
guidance
of
a
union
without
the
employer
interfering.
So
it's
it
will
make
it
so
that
employees
have
a
free
choice
in
that
no
antagonistic
relationship
and,
on
our
end,
one
of
the
things
that
we've
liked
to
see
ourselves
as
the
asset
to
the
employer.
I
M
I
F
L
Just
for
clarification,
because
they
know
a
lot
of
people
are
asking
about
the
difference.
The
differentiation
between
the
classification
of
workers,
any
workers
who
are
wage,
who
cannot
hire
fire
discipline
or
set
the
schedule,
is
considered
a
non
managerial
employer
under
the
classification
of
who
can
be
organized
or
considered
into
a
bargaining
unit
and
to
kind
of
make
it
a
little
bit
even
simpler
to
digest
a
labor
peace
agreement
would
almost
be
like
a
precursor
into
a
collective
bargaining
agreement
if
the
employee
so
choose
and
the
reason
this
is
kind
of
a
little
bit.
L
Unorthodox
is
because
it's
predicated
on
peace
and
neutrality
unlike
hundred
years
ago
in
Chicago-
and
they
were
you,
know,
burning
things
down
for
a
weekend.
We're
not
here.
You
know
we're
trying
to
make
sure
the
industry
catches
up,
because
it
is
going
to
be
a
backbone
industry,
and
so
a
lot
of
the
experiences
that
workers
have
gone
through
coming
from
an
illicit
market
to
a
gray
market.
To
now
in
this
market
kind
of
requires
an
effort
to
maintain
the
culture
of
cannabis
that
might
that
might
be
overseen
or
kind
of
left
out.
L
When
folks
attempt
to
kind
of
like
make
cannabis
a
little
bit
more
corporatized
or
mainstream,
but
then
they
forget
things
that
are,
you
know
essential
and
to
giving
that
legitimacy.
That
skill
respect
towards
the
worker
who
anybody
between,
like
a
person
who
works
on
the
floor,
the
sales
shop
or
we
also
represent
people
from
seed
to
sale
or
also
cultivators
and
lab
technicians
as
well
and.
I
I,
don't
want
to
spend
too
much
time
because
we're
not
adopting
any
our
labor
peace
agreement
as
part
of
this
that'll
be
coming,
probably
in
January
with
some
other
things.
So
it's
just.
Oh
all
we
did
on
this.
Was
we
put
in
that
people
have
to
comply
with
local
law
as
well
as
the
state
law?
So
if
the
local
law
goes
further
and
has
a
lower
number
than
state
law
will
be
applicable
here,
so
that's
the
only
thing
we're
doing
currently
in
this
ordinance.
F
A
Real
quick
I
just
wonder
if
it
makes
sense
for
you
guys
to
acknowledge
the
ALR
B,
as
it
relates
specifically
to
cultivation
workers
where
there's
a
different
set
of
rules
for
how
those
folks
get
organized,
and
maybe
you
guys
want
to
bring
that
up.
But
that
is
the
thing
that
you
might
want
to
get
out
ahead
of
hey.
Thank.
E
L
E
I'm
just
wondering
if
I
can
ask
some
short
specific
questions
unless
you
want
me
to
email
them
to
you.
Okay,
great,
let's
see
if
the
cultivation
and
manufacturing
are
eliminated
from
my
area
due
to
the
elimination
of
them.
No,
no,
that's
a
separate
thing
and
I
have
a
micro
business
license
through
the
state,
I'm,
not
sure
how
that
would
work
after
that,
if
I
would
no
longer
have
a
license
through
the
state
if
I'm
unable
to
operate
more
than
you
know,
two
licenses,
for
example,.
F
F
So
so
the
Green
Zone
is
still
something
we're
working
out.
The
Z,
the
Green
Zone
brought
more
complications
simply
because
of
the
geography
and
BOM
Springs,
and
also
because
of
getting
utilities
to
a
lot
of
the
land
that
we
originally
wanted
to
roll
into
the
Green
Zone.
We
don't
want
to
offer
a
Green
Zone,
that's
unusable,
and
you
know
if
somebody
has
to
spend
millions
of
dollars
getting
utilities
there.
It's
it's
not
going
to
do
well
for
them,
so
your
license
from
the
state
is
different
than
what
we
is
very
different
than
distance
requirements.
E
F
H
Of
the
things
that
the
Planning
Commission
talked
about
was
to
allow
the
smaller
businesses
the
type
and
in
the
type
P
within
industrial
districts,
in
the
central
core
City
area,
not
just
restricting
them
to
the
green
zone,
because
those
were
shown
to
have
less
of
an
impact
relative
to
odors.
So
that's
one
of
the
recommendations
of
the
Planning
Commission.
This
will
allow
their
businesses
that
don't
have
the
odor
impacts
its.
F
You
know
we
will
continue
to
be
as
relaxed
as
we
can
about
distances
for
business
that
just
distribute
and
sell,
but
any
kind
of
manufacturer
is
gonna.
Is
we're
gonna
accept
those
we're
gonna,
really
scrutinize.
If
you
create
odor,
it's
a
problem,
if
you
don't
we're
gonna
work
with
you
as
much
as
we
can
in
every
way.
Thank.
F
N
Hi
I'm
Stephen
V,
attic
I'm
with
reefer
madness.
I've
got
a
approved
application.
Also
I
have
a
Cu
P,
that's
in
process
and
at
the
intent
of
my
business
is
dispensary.
Lounge
cultivation
manufacturing,
I,
am
in
the
m1
zone
and
one
of
my
concerns
is
in
the
proposed
zoning
ordinance
changes
it's
proposing
to
strike
out
cultivation
in
manufacturing
other
than
the
type
in
and
type
P
from
the
m1
zone.
N
I
H
That
sort
of
applications
in
process
the
Planning
Commission
did
not
address
that
issue.
That
tends
to
be
a
policy
issue
that
City
Council
would
want
to
address
at
some
point
in
time.
If
you
recall,
when
we
last
made
changes
to
the
zoning
code
back
in
December
of
2017,
there
was
a
certain
provision
within
the
code
that
allowed
applications
that
were
in
process
to
continue
through
the
process.
Us
City
Council
may
discuss
and
decide
to
do
something
similar
with
applications
that
are
in
process.
Okay,.
F
Historically,
people
in
the
pipeline
we
take,
we
take
individually
in
Veronica,
works
very
closely
with
them.
Our
goal
is
to
not
put
you
through
hell
rip
you
out
of
the
pipe
and
send
you
on
your
way.
So
as
we
move
forward,
we
we've
been
on
by
and
large
honoring
those
that
got
in
at
a
certain
point
in
the
process.
This
changed
so
radically
and
so
quickly
we're
essentially
trying
to
keep
up
with
the
issues
that
arise
as
work
as
as
we're
now
starting
to
go
online
with
all
the
different
types
of
businesses.
F
O
Well,
I
might
have
to
come
back
more
than
once
that,
since
how
are
you
all
this
is
a
lot
and
I
wasn't
necessarily
prepared
to
talk
about
planning
issues,
because
I
thought
we
were
just
doing
admin
but
I
think
there's
some
overlap
and
again.
Yeah
I
could
talk
for
a
long
time,
but
I'm
not
going
to
the
first
thing.
O
I
want
to
ask:
you
is
cannabis
overlay
zone
green
zone
grow
zone
I
tend
to
have
a
definition
and
of
where
this
is
and
what
this
is
I
have
a
concern
I've
expressed
before
that
their
carts
before
the
horse
in
this.
If
you
put
these
terms
and
you
need
to
pick
one
I-
think
that's
consistent,
but
in
two
ordinances
and
the
thing
doesn't
exist.
Yet
how
can
you?
How
do
we
know
how
to
support
that?
O
So
it
would
be
great
to
both
in
the
zoning
ordinance
and
in
this
regulatory
ordinance
to
be
consistent
and
also
clear
and
then
not
make
changes
based
on
the
fact
that
there
will
be
some
future
zone
without
knowing
what
that
is.
So
what
I'm
saying
is,
if
you
in
the
zoning
ordinance
say
you
can't,
cultivate
or
do
type
six
or
seven
Manufacturing's
accepting
this
here
and
there's
no
area
I
have
a
hard
time
with
that.
What.
H
We
do
that
through
the
zoning
regulations
is
by
mm-hmm,
defining
an
each
is
owning
district.
What
use
is
allowed
so
in
the
planning
discussions
we've
been
talking
generally
about
in
the
I-10
corridor,
but
specifically
in
the
draft
ordinance
itself,
it
identifies
that
type.
Six
type,
seven
and
cultivation
uses
are
allowed
in
the
e
I
and
the
m2
zones,
which
only
occur
in
the
I-10
corridor.
Cin.
H
O
I
O
You
could
make
those
marry
that
would
be
great
and
really
what
we're
talking
about
at
the
ein
m2
and
just
be
consistent
across
the
board.
If
that's,
what
we're
talking
about
again
I
got
problems
with
the
waiver
criteria
big
time,
but
that's
in
the
zoning
ordinance.
So
maybe
this
is
not
the
place
or
time
for
that.
I
don't
know
because.
I
We
had
our
thoughts
on
that.
You
know
what
kind
of
things
council
should
consider,
but
there
weren't
hard
and
fast
rules.
They
were
meant
to
be
guidelines,
so
people
had
some
sense
before
what
we
didn't
want.
Was
people
just
spending
money
going
through
a
process
on
things
that
are
very
unlikely
to
get
waive,
so
we
wanted
to
give
them
the
kind
of
things
that
are
more
likely
to
get
waive
to
help
the
future
businesses
know
when
they
should
make
that
effort.
O
F
O
O
So
the
amended
version,
the
amended
amended
now
the
last
version
that
we
were
able
to
get
after
the
October
10th
talks
about
a
one-year
vacancy.
If
the
purpose
of
criteria
is
to
ensure
that
no
tenant
is
evicted
by
a
landlord
to
replace
with
a
cannabis
tenant,
then
the
criteria
should
speak
to
that
and
not
eliminate
properties.
Based
on
how
many
years
something's
been
vacant,
whether
it's
been
used
as
a
cannabis
use,
because
that's
the
new
version
now
or
not
used
in
the
cannabis
use.
I
O
Good
to
hear
on
record
the
experience
requirements
are,
am
I
making
Laurie
laugh
the
experience
requirements
I
understand
to
a
point,
but
two
years
of
experience
in
a
business,
that's
only
been
around
for
two
years
seems
problematic,
especially
for
equity
applicants,
who
won't
have
any
so
since
there's
no
social
equity
program
at
this
time.
What
the
Planning
Commission
did
was
speak
to
a
social
equity
program
that
were
just
developing
so
I.
F
But
realize
that
it's
just
criteria
you
don't
have
to
meet
those
aren't
hard
and
fast
guidelines,
so
we're
looking
at
a
collection
of
criteria.
You
don't
meet
any
of
it.
It's
probably
gonna
be
a
problem.
You
meet
a
lot
of
it.
You're
gonna
be
considered.
Okay,
it's
it's!
It's
gonna,
be
common
sense.
You
know,
as
we
as
you
know,
better
than
anybody.
As
we've
been
developing.
The
policy
on
this
we've
been
as
loose
as
we
can
be
with
it
yeah,
because
we're
all
kind
of
doing
it
together,
yeah
I.
O
Appreciate
it,
thank
you.
That's
very
helpful.
So
I
spoke
to
the
issue
of
green
zone.
There
was
discussion
and
I
think
it
was
fair
at
Planning
Commission
regarding
small-scale
manufacturing
and
small
scale
cultivation
versus
treating
every
cultivation
exactly
the
same
in
every
type,
six
and
seven
frankly,
exactly
the
same
and
I
get
the
threshold
is
around
potential
odor,
but
I
still
feel
like
we're
doing
policy
from
a
fear
versus
a
reality,
so
I
want
I'm.
Just
this
is
my
level
blogs.
No.
F
F
It
but
I
mean
we're
we're
going
backwards
now
in
the
future,
there
is
going
to
be
I
mean
anything
that
gets
approved.
Now
there
is
ZERO
tolerance,
we're
now
walking
back
and
cleaning
up
the
existing
businesses.
So,
from
my
perspective,
I,
don't
care
if
they're,
large
or
small
businesses,
it's
all
about
odor
and.
I
O
I,
don't
think
that
I
think
that
they
were
very
aware
of
that
and
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
if
there
is
no
businesses
like
this
small
businesses
like
this,
there
will
be
no
way
to
know
whether
this
is
something
that's
containable.
That's
all
I'm
saying
like
if
you're
at
zero
tolerance
and
you're
going
to
negative
tolerance,
then
we're
not.
O
F
F
O
O
One
is
for
violations
that
are
non
odor,
related,
I,
suppose,
like
everything
but
odor,
and
then
there's
odor,
where
it
shows
you,
you
got
a
ten
thousand
dollar
fine
for
the
first
one,
and
then
it
goes
up
after
that
and
I'm
wondering
if
you're
gonna,
maybe
Thresh,
that
out
a
little
bit
in
terms
of
how
many
citations,
in
a
certain
period
of
time,
with
a
better
sense
of
of
how
this
will
be
enforced.
And
if
there
is
a
compliance,
appearance.
G
G
J
O
There
yeah
so
they're
articulated
only
in
a
sense.
So
if
you
get
your
first
citation,
if
it's
a
validated
odor
violation,
USU
$10,000
fine,
do
you
have
30
days
to
cure?
Do
you
then,
like
this
is?
Maybe
this
is
an
offline
conversation?
I
just
want
to
see
how
this
would
play
out
with
respect
to
getting
to
a
row,
vocation.
O
P
Sorry
I
should
have
stood
up
sooner.
My
name
is
Paula
Auburn.
Thank
you
very
much
for
having
met
with
the
1ps
work
group
on
cannabis
and,
as
you
know,
we're
still
together,
it's
still
working.
We
have
been
very
consistent
and
very
simple
in
what
we
have
asked
for
for
protection
of
the
neighborhoods
and
residents.
It's
not
onerous,
it's
not
everything
we
would
have
liked
to
have
asked
for,
but
it's
been
consistent,
it's
doable
and
it's
realistic.
The
Planning
Commission
has
folded
into
their
recommendations.
P
Some
of
the
provisions
that
we
asked
for
we
are
supporting
those
recommendations
and
we
will
be
asking
the
full
council
to
adopt
those
recommendations
exactly
as
they
have
come
from
the
Planning
Commission
I
have
one
question
of
clarification,
and
let
me
talk
about
transparency
for
everyday
average
residents
who
don't
deal
with
codes.
Zoning
codes
on
a
daily
basis.
It
is
extremely
difficult
to
follow
the
inter-linkages
from
one
ordinance
to
another
ordinance
and
it's
a
little
bit
like
it.
He
lost
it.
A
bowl
of
spaghetti
and
I
keep
trying
to
find
some
way
to
simplify.
P
P
I
Q
G
G
P
P
P
F
P
I've
got
a
very
simple
question
just
to
make
sure
I'm
on
the
right
track.
There
are
two
ordinances
that
are
going
to
go
to
the
Council
on
November.
The
6th
one
is
this
cannabis
ordinance
and
one
is
the
zoning
and
the
Planning
Commission
has
been
working
on
the
zoning.
What
you
men
you
made
that
fabulous
presentation
that
was
zoning.
So
from
residents
perspectives,
we
need
to
be
tracking
both
of
those
as
they
go
forward.
P
Okay-
and
it
does
not
appear
on
my
preliminary
go
through
on
the
draft
revisions
of
this
ordinance
that
it
incorporates
what
is
in
the
zoning,
ordinance
and
I.
Don't
know
if
there
needs
to
be
cross
linkages
between
those
or
not
because
we
because
we're
supporting
the
Planning
Commission
recommendations.
We've
made
an
assumption
that
those
are
somehow
in
the
cannabis
ordinance
or
are
implied
in
the
cannabis
ordinance.
H
So
what
we
will
try
and
do
in
our
staff
reports
is
again
simplify
and
identify
what
the
changes
are.
Keep
in
mind
that
these
two
ordinance
need
to
work
in
parallel.
They
need
to
work
together,
and
others
have
made
those
comments
that
our
terminology
needs
to
be
the
same
in
both
ordinances.
Maybe
what
we
can
do,
veronik
and
I
would
be
happy
to
sit
down
with
you
prior
to
the
city
council
meeting
on
the
city.
P
Group,
the
separation
distances
the
manufacturing
six
in
manufacturing
seven
types
of
those
not
being
allowed
near
neighborhoods,
no
matter
what
the
size
is,
they
all
produce
odor
when
that's
the
process
that
they're
involved
with
and
the
notification
requirements
so
that
residents
in
a
broader
area
are
notified
that
there's
going
to
be
a
kannas
facility.
Again,
you've
heard
us
go
through
our
very
simple
four
point
list
and
we
haven't
left
that.
So
thank
you
for
giving
us
the
opportunity
now
I
need
to
meet
with
you,
but
also
to
have
a
broader
discussion.
F
One
thing
I
can
promise
you
we
understand
it's
complex
and
we
understand.
Bringing
two
ordinances
together
is
complex.
We're
gonna
walk
through
it
very
very
slowly
when
it
actually
comes
to
Council
and
Jeff
and
I
are
gonna,
spend
a
lot
of
time
before
hand,
making
it
palatable
and
more
understandable
anybody,
Row
3,
Row
4.
E
Good
morning
my
name
is
Tempe
Sol
and
I
live
in
the
Tennis
Club
area
and
I've
attended
all
of
the
Planning
Commission
meetings
regarding
this
issue,
and
one
thing
came
to
light
today,
that
I
was
not
aware
of,
and
for
maybe
you
can
help
me
with
this
in
the
retail
area.
I
wasn't
aware
that
we
that
you
guys
had
suggested
of
banning
the
3,000
no
more
than
three
businesses
in
3,000
feet
and
that
concerns
me
as
a
long-term.
I
H
E
E
I
D
Hi
I'm
a
little
concerned,
a
kind
of
heard.
You
address
businesses
that
are
already
in
the
CU
p
process
and
that's
what
we're
in,
but
it
seems
like.
Some
of
this
is
really
going
to
affect
us
where
we
are.
We
had
a
facility
where
we
had
dispensary
lounge
cultivation,
distribution
and
manufacturing
all
in
separate
units
and
we're
in
an
m1
p
zone
over
on
research
drive,
and
I
know
that
we
had.
We
did
our
CU
p
meeting
and
they
were
concerned
about
distance.
But
what
would
happen
with
us?
D
I
F
Historically,
if
you
are
well
into
the
process-
and
we
get
that
you're
serious
about
this
and
that
you
have
a
lot
of
investment
in
it,
we
we
have
favored
that
if
we
have
applicants
who
have
simply
applied
for
our
permit
and
not
done
anything
about
that,
permit,
that's
not
kind
of
way
well
with
us,
but
we've
in
your
case
again
call
Veronica
specifically
about
it.
We
we
handhold
on
those
cases
and
wonder.
D
One
of
the
things
we
want
to-
let
you
know
we
did
wait
for
a
long
time,
because
we
had
existing
tenants
in
there
in
our
building
that
were
there
for
a
long
time
and
they
requested
us
to
you
know
if
we
could
work
with
them,
so
we
let
them
stay
there
for
many
many
months
so
that
we
wouldn't
just
kick
them
out.
You
know
they
were
an
existing
business
there,
so
that
was
part
of
our
delay,
also
in
what
we
were
doing
so.
Okay,
so
I
can
call
Veronica,
always.
F
R
I
R
J
R
R
J
F
R
R
Perfect
and
the
other
one
is
I
just
wanted
to
make
the
statement
that
you
know
in
Bloomberg,
News,
New,
York,
Times,
LA,
Times,
they're,
saying
illegal
operations
for
cannabis
in
California
are
because
of
all
the
permitting
processes,
delays
and
all
the
things
that
are
happening
in
the
cities
and
I
just
hope
on
things
doesn't
get
caught
in
that
trap
of
allowing
the
illegals,
five
illegal
operations,
afar
I
Paul,
the
legal
operations
who
are
going
through
the
process.
You
know
get
discouraged
and
whatever
and.
I
It's
an
important
point
and
in
fact,
last
night
we
approved
keeping
giving
loading
one
of
our
police
officers
to
the
Riverside
County
DA's
Drug
Enforcement
Unit
we're
the
only
city
in
the
Coachella
Valley.
Who
does
that?
And
you
know
last
month
you
know
they
found
an
illegal
grow
with
1200
plants
in
the
northern
part
of
Palm
Springs
and,
of
course
those
don't
have
any
of
the
odor
control
pieces.
We're
not
doing.
We
don't
know
what's
there
unless
they
find
it.
I
So
it's
important
that
for
our
city
that
we're
helping
to
fund
that
effort
to
find
and
close
down
the
illegals.
Obviously,
illegals
also
are
not
testing
their
product
for
safety.
So
it's
dangerous
for
consumers
as
well,
but
it's
really
important
and
I
hope.
You
know
we
all
step
up
to
help
close
down
the
illegals,
because
that's
gonna
be
essential.
F
You
know
it's
it's
hard
to
hide
in
Palm,
Springs
and
and
we're
catching
them
and
funny
enough
we're
catching
them
through
our
enforcement
arm.
Unintentionally.
So
say
a
resident
complains
about
odor
and
we
go
out
and
check
and
what
we're
finding
is
we
go
to
the
legal
business
and
there's
no
odor,
but
it
just
so
happens.
Two
doors
down
in
that
same
complex
is
where
we'll
find
the
illegal
operator
so
work
we're
cracking
down
very,
very
hard.
The
reason
that
we
are
helping
Riverside
is
because
we're
helping
ourselves
to
your
point.
F
R
F
Know
they're
all
different.
We
all
we
all
work
differently.
We
do
look
at
what
they're
doing
and
earlier
on,
Jeff
and
I
and
our
staff
were
actually
meeting
with
Cathedral
City
and
Desert
Hot
Springs
and
comparing
notes
we
haven't
done
that
lately,
but
we
might
want
to
do
that
again.
It
was
helpful,
but
again
you
know
hopefully
we're
all
learning
from
each
other
and.
Q
Good
morning
before
I
start
I
wanted
to
maybe
point
out
something.
Jocelyn
had
mentioned.
I
think
that
the
Planning
Commission
had
talked
about
something
about.
You
can't
go
into
the
property
that
had
been
vacant,
but
I
think
they
even
said
it
couldn't
have
been
a
cannabis
business
before
and
I.
Just
think,
that's
silly!
If
a
cannabis
business
failed
and
and
so
I
wanted
you
to
look
into
that.
I
could
be
wrong.
F
Q
I
think
if
you
could
look
into
that,
I
appreciate
I
think
it's
sort
of
redundant.
It's
it's
they're,
doing
a
great
they're
doing
a
great
job,
I
mean
quite
honestly,
they're
dealing
with
things
that
really
shouldn't
they
shouldn't
be
dealing
with
that
are
more
code
enforcement,
in
my
opinion,
okay,
so
I'm
here
to
talk
about
odor
control.
I!
Don't
really
want
to
convince
you,
because
you're
leaving
us
I
need
to
convince
this
man
and
I
know
that
Flynn
was
able
to
participate
in
the
meeting.
Q
Obviously,
where
we
had
an
odor
control
expert
come
who
I
feel
sets
the
standard.
There
is
a
company
that
came
and
spoke
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
they
described
how
they
can
build
an
80-acre
outdoor
nursery
and
contain
the
odors
at
the
property
line
which
are
800
feet
from
the
nursery.
So
I
refuse
to
allow
the
city
to
look
silly
by
saying
to
everyone.
Q
We
can't
control
odors
reality
is
when
the
baby's
diaper
is
full
of
poop.
You
don't
put
the
baby
in
the
other
room,
you
change
the
diaper
and
that's
the
analogy
that
I'm
looking
at
here.
There
is
a
company
out
there
called
urban
growth.
They
spoke
before
the
Planning
Commission
yesterday
and
I'm
not
making
this
up.
They
have
the
science.
This
is
science.
F
Q
Q
Q
So
I'm
not
trying
to
be
a
pain
in
the
butt
and
one
last
thing:
the
whole
community
is
not
in
Cena
and
Cena
has
a
very
bit.
All
citizens
have
a
right
to
clean
air
fresh
it.
But
comments
made
about
the
industry
beyond
fresh
air,
about
the
type
of
industry
it
is
or
the
people
that
work
in
the
industry
that
I've
seen
mentioned
over
the
past
few
weeks
are
uncalled
for.
So
the
sooner
we
can
clean
up
the
odor
control,
the
the
sooner
we'll
stop
dividing
our
community.
Thank
you.
F
D
D
Sorry
I
didn't
have
a
chance
to
take
a
look
at
this
until
this
morning,
but
one
of
the
things
that
jumped
out
at
me
is
the
discussion
about
mitigation
associated
with
odor
plus
the
fact
that
that's
in
Section,
555,
435
and
maybe
I'm
missing
something
here,
because
this
is
a
pretty
lengthy
document,
but
under
odor
control
on
page
32,
permit
e
shall
provide
an
adequate
odor
control
plan,
etc,
etc.
So
you've
talked
about
zero
tolerance,
but
I'm
curious.
D
I
think
it
was
just
within
the
past
couple
of
years,
but
it's
general
and
in
this
case
I
think
because
I'm,
a
sequel
guy
I,
do
NEPA
as
well
as
sequa,
but
I
like
sequa,
because
there
are
specific
thresholds
and
if
we
were
to
have
specific
thresholds
associated
with
odor
in
our
guidelines,
I
think
that
would
be
beneficial
to
applicants
and
the
whole
process
in
terms
of
going
through
these
types
of
applications.
So
right.
F
D
H
What
we
might
want
to
do
grant
is
sit
down
with
veronika
and
look
at
what
we
might
do
relative
to
sequel,
evaluation
of
cannabis
facilities
in
particular.
The
conditional
use
permit
process
for
manufacturing
and
cultivation
does
require
a
sequel
evaluation,
so
that
would
be
where
it
would
be
most
applicable.
So
maybe
let's
sit
down
and
discuss
here.
B
There's
many
ways:
if
you
go
by
bakeries,
commercial,
bakeries
like
bilbo
or
Wonder
Bread
or
any
of
those,
you
can
no
longer
smell
bread,
because
this
new
technology
is
out
there.
That
has
this,
that
you
can
take
the
odor
away
from
cannabis
and
you'll,
not
smell
it
and
I've
seen
it.
We
would
never
smell
it
with
the
new
technologies,
so
there
is
available
technologies,
it's
being
used
all
the
time.
So
you
have
the
thermal
oxidizers.
You
have
water
control
systems,
you
have
all
different.
You
have
negative
air
control
systems,
multiple
ways
to
do
this.
B
B
Secondly,
when
the
company
I
represent,
they
have
a
clinic
on
I'm,
sorry,
oh,
they
have
a
clinic
on
on-site,
so
they
do
acupuncture,
they
do
massage,
they
do
with
CBD
and
they
do
a
lot
of
people
with
cancers,
prostate
cancer,
colon
cancers
and
things,
and
it's
a
helping
thing.
There
is
no
provision
to
allow
a
clinic
to
be
operated
within
a
dispensary
or
there
Jason
to
his
dispensary
or
part
of
a
dispensary,
because
we
need
CBD
oil.
We
use
other
things.
The
other
issue
is
when
you
have
that
you
can
have
the
clinic.
B
If
you
able
to
get
the
clinic,
then
you
have
to
have
the
clinicians
be
able
to
open
the
product
and
be
able
to
use
it
on
them.
So
the
law
is
also
written.
That
way
that
I
can't
I
can't
open
it.
So
then
the
grow
house
or
in
the
smoke
room
you
can
buy
it
over
on
this
side,
come
over
here
and
smoke
it.
They
can't
bring
it
to
you
over
there
and
open
it
and
allow
you
to
smoke
it.
B
You
know
what
I
mean,
so
it's
a
separation
as
a
if
they
come
in
and
they
bring
the
Canada
a
CBD
oil
into
the
clinic
that
could
open
it
themselves
and
then
we
could
use
it,
but
I
can't
sell
the
product
to
them
and
do
the
massage
and
do
all
that
that
makes
sense
yeah.
So
that's
a
doesn't
issue
that
we're
trying
to
come
up
with
and
about
60
60
to
70
percent
of
the
patients
are
cancer
related
because
it
does
give
them
benefits.
B
F
I
F
R
Even
on
the
south
side.
That
would
be
a
consideration.
I'd
like
to
ask
that
that
there
is
a
consideration
to
expand
those
uses
within
other
zoning,
even
if
there
are
more
specific
geographic
limitations
that
the
city
wants
to
apply
to
that
and
I'd
like
that
consideration.
For
those
reasons,
thank
you.
S
S
There's
a
couple
of
things
I
wanted
to
address
today
and
I
think
that
a
lot
of
them
have
have
already
been,
but
I
still
want
to
chime
in
curiosity
about
we're
an
overlay
zone
would
be
also.
Where
are
one
of
my
licensed
properties
that
is
non
operational,
is
located
on
micro
Road.
It
is
zoned
either
M
1
or
M
1
P.
It
is
not
M,
2
or
e
aÃ
and
for
multiple
acres
there
is
nobody
around
it.
S
So,
if
you're
considering
the
zone
change
here
regarding
cultivation
and
manufacturing,
this
particular
area
is
not
included
in
that
zone
for
whatever
the
reason
so
I
want
to
bring
that
up.
I
also
want
to
bring
up
that
I
appreciate
all
of
the
input
that
the
residents
have
given
all
this
time
as
I
am
one
of
them
as
well
regarding
odor,
but
a
lot
of
this
is
based
on
when
there
was
no
odor
control
happening
and
I
I
just
want
to
to
ask
that
that
is
considered
as
well.
S
You
know
now
that
there
is
odor
control
in
place
and
it
is
required
I'm
curious
as
to
how
that's
going
now.
Has
that
been
helpful
enough
that
now
we're
planning
on
really
changing
everything
based
on
that,
but
have
we
already
addressed
the
situation
and
to
what
level
have
we
addressed
that
at
this
point?
I?
Don't
know
that
answer.
Another
thing
that
came
up
you
know:
Planning
Commission,
meeting
I
wanted
to
mention
is
the
size
of
a
cultivation.
S
So,
if
you're
talking
about
a
10,000
square-foot
cultivation
building,
as
opposed
to
maybe
something
that's
a
2,000
square
foot
or
something
like
that,
then
would
that
still
be
treated
in
the
same
way
when
it
would
not
necessarily
provide
the
same
objectionable,
odors
and
everything
so
I.
Think
in
this
case,
size
does
matter
and
it
needs
to
be
considered
and
also
just
on
a
extremely
personal
level,
because
I
know
that
I
have
been
slow
in
getting
two
of
my
properties.
S
Operational
I
could
write
a
book
about
why
it's
taken
this
long,
the
people
that
I
have
not
done
business
with
and
why
I
haven't
done
business
with
them
as
I
thought
that
I
was
going
to
but
I
in
number.
Five
point:
five:
five
point:
oh
eight!
Oh,
where
you're
discussing
the
you
know
how
long
somebody
would
have
after
they
have
a
license
to
get
started.
S
I
understand
why
and
I
understand
it's
because
others,
because
then
of
separation,
maybe
can't
can't
have
a
space
there,
but
I
was
just
wondering
if
that
starts
from
the
time
of
the
new
ordinance.
Or
does
that
start
from
the
time
that
those
licenses
came
and
I
know
that
none
of
these
things
are
are
actually
happening
yet
because
they
haven't
been
voted
on
by
consul,
but
just
my
personal
problem
that
I
realized
that
I
made
a
problem
myself,
but
I
just
have
not
been
able
to
really
fulfill
that
yet.
But
I
am
definitely
working
on
it.
S
S
So
odor
has
always
been
a
concern
of
mine
there,
and
that
is
part
of
what's
held
us
back,
but
not
that
I
need
to
tell
you
my
whole
business
right
now,
but
in
talking
on
my
landlord
at
one
of
the
properties,
he
is
willing
to
actually
build
a
building
inside
of
the
building,
because
he
understands
that
nobody
else
wants
to
do
that
and
somebody
else's
building
so
I
hope
to
be
able
to
move
forward
with
that
one
soon.
There's
all
my
problems:
Thank
You
therapist.
S
I
I
saw
you
know
it's
longer
period
of
time
for
people
who
have
existing
permits
licenses,
but
I
think
we
also
want
to
look
at
you
know,
so
we
don't
put
someone
in
a
situation
where
six
months
from
now
they're
gonna
lose
something
because
of
something
new.
So
that's
something
we
will
look
at.
So
thank
you
for
racing
that
they
appreciate.
S
I
F
T
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Karina
I'm
here
from
highroad
Consulting
Group
out
in
DHS
and
I've
been
attending
the
Planning
Commission's
for
the
past
two
months,
I
had
a
couple
questions.
No,
it's
been
very
interesting,
so
it's
been
very
interesting,
so
I
had
a
couple
questions
regarding
some
of
the
the
things
that
were
added
for
the
temporary
cannabis
event
permits
they're,
requiring
an
odor
control
plan
and
that
it
must
demonstrate
that
there's
no
odor
outside
of
the
event
perimeter.
Does
this
mean
that
these
events
have
to
be
indoor
or
do
the?
T
What
are
they
called
the
consumption
areas?
Are
they
supposed
to
be
centrally
located
within
that
premises?
Because
what?
If
there's
when,
during
that
day
of
odor
from
people
who
are
smoking,
cannabis
is
going
to
transfer
outside
of
those
parameters.
So
that
was
something
that
I.
We
would
like
a
little
bit
clarification
on
under
the
tax
incentives.
It's
it's
mentioning
adult
used.
Retailers
in
the
cannabis
overlay
zone.
T
Is
this
referring
to
the
I-10
corridor,
because,
if
I
remember
correctly
in
the
Planning
Commission,
they
were
mentioning
that
only
cultivators
type,
six
and
type
seven
would
be
allowed
in
the
Cannabis
overlay
zone.
So
I
just
wanted
a
little
bit
of
clarification
on
that
as
well.
No.
I
T
For
there's
a
section
that
was
deleted
on
5.55
140,
seeing
that
permits
are
not
transferable
to
third
parties.
Does
this
mean
that
permits
will
now
be
available
to
be
transferred
to
a
third
party?
And
could
you
please
clarify
a
little
bit
about
manufacturers?
It
says
on
there
that
they're
no
longer
requiring
land
use
permits.
Is
this
referring
to
see
you
piece
that
they're
no
longer
going
to
be
requiring
that
in
certain
zones.
J
T
T
T
J
I
F
T
Thank
you
and
then,
regarding
order
violations,
could
you
please
clarify
the
difference
between
subsection,
a
and
B
right
now
it
says
if
a
permit
E
is
complying
with
their
approved
odor
control
plan,
they
will
receive
a
written
warning
and
seven
diet,
seven
days
to
fix
the
issue,
while
subsection
B
says
that
if
they're
not
following
the
odor
control
plan
that
was
approved,
an
administrative
citation
will
be
issued
and
the
permit
e
will
have
30
days
to
fix.
How
will
the
city
determine
if
a
permit
is
actually
following
their
approved
odor
control
plan
or
not
sure.
I
Because
they'll
have
an
approved
plan
and
either
they're
following
or
not
they've,
either
complied
with
it
and
put
in
whatever
was
required
was
it
comes
to
you
know,
fans
and
doors
and
everything
else
or
they're?
Not
so,
if
someone's
following
what
the
odor
outside
order,
control
expert
told
them
to
do,
and
they're
still
emitting
odor,
then
they
have
30
days.
You
know
we
want
them
to
work
with
the
odor
control
plan,
we're
not
going
to
find
them
to
get
in
compliance.
So
there's
no
odor.
I
You
thank
you
just
because
we're
going
over
I
know
that
may
be
hard
for
some
people.
I
personally
have
to
leave
in
five
minutes.
Yes
and
staff
has
a
staff
meeting
right
now.
So
less
short
comments
questions,
but
then
we
really
do
have
to
wrap
it
up,
but
we're
available
at
other
times,
but
I
don't
have
to
leave.
Even
if
you
can
stay
a
little
bit
longer.
I
can
and.
C
Be
as
quick
as
I
can
there
was
a
talk,
a
lot
of
talk
about
the
odor
control,
so
the
order
control
is
a
lot
of
what
brought
this
up
and
there
have
even
been
passionate
comments
about
how
owner
can
be
controlled.
Well,
if
odor
can
be
controlled
successfully,
that's
a
great
thing.
I
hope
we
really
can,
but
the
reason
that
this
is
here
is
because
it
wasn't
controlled.
C
So
if
we
have
zero
tolerance
and
the
businesses
are
successful
as
they
state
that
they
can
be
well,
then
they
don't
have
anything
to
be
concerned
about,
because
they
insist
that
absolutely
they
can
control
it,
which
means
they
wouldn't
be
in
violation
and
no
one
would
be
calling
them
about
it.
So
I
want
to
talk
about
the
nasal
Ranger's,
an
objective
process,
I'm
sure
you
guys
have
probably
seen
my
letter
about
the
nasal
Ranger
equipment,
but
actually
it's
not
any
good.
C
We
should
really
stop
using
it.
It's
not
objective,
so
the
goal
with
something
like
that
is
for
it
to
be
more
objective
so
that
it's
fair
to
the
industry
and
it's
fair
to
the
community,
the
nasal
Ranger
equipment.
Many
of
us
thought
that
it
had
like
meters
and
sensors
and
all
kinds
of
stuff
on
it,
and
it
was
able
to
be
objective
and
tell
us
this
is
the
level
of
odor
or
this
is
the
level
of
the
chemical
that's
being
detected
in
the
air
turns
out.
It
doesn't
have
anything
like
that
at
all.
C
It
basically
is
a
tube
with
a
pinhole
at
one
hand
and
and
a
nose
piece
at
the
other
end,
and
last
time,
I
checked.
Most
people
don't
breathe
through
a
pinhole
hang
on
one
sec,
because
I've
actually
spoken
with
veronika
about
this.
So
really
the
hope
is
really
on
veronika,
going
to
the
conference
MJ
biz
Inn
in
Vegas,
that's
coming
up
next
month.
Is
it
oh,
no
December,
because
then,
hopefully,
she'll
be
able
to
see
if
there's
some
new
technology,
so
this
is
where
technology
hasn't
yet
caught
up.
C
This
is
a
slow
part
of
all
of
it
and
some
day,
hopefully
we'll
get
there
where
there's
some
equipment.
That
is
objective
because
it's
also
not
fair
to
the
industry.
If
they're
constantly
getting
calls,
maybe
they're
getting
reports
sent
in
to
them
by
people
who
just
are
opposed
to
the
industry
completely
and
they're
just
trying
to
harass
them
and
make
life
miserable-
that's
not
fair
to
the
industry
as
well,
but
it's
also
not
fair
to
the
community.
The
residents,
if
they're
having
to
suffer
with
that
so
yeah
their
nasal
Ranger
stuff.
F
Paul
and
I
just
I
want
it
while
you're
up
here
I,
you
know
one
of
the
one
of
the
toughest
issues
for
Jeff
and
I
and
it's
gonna
be
for
the
council.
Well,
his
simply
perceptions.
So
Veronica
recently
gave
us
a
breakdown
on
complaints
and
maybe
in
their
way
way
down,
and
they
were
much
less
than
we
eat
than
we
ever
thought.
When
we
looked
at
the
actual
breakdown
and
Veronica,
can
you
give
out
just
a
quick
overview
for
the
audience
on
what
you
gave
Jeff
and
I,
because
it
was
somewhat
surprising
for
us
I.
G
G
None
of
them
required
the
use
of
any
type
of
equipment,
because
the
odor
was
so
faint
and
it
usually
dissipated
within
seconds.
Upon
arrival,
only
one
of
the
investigations
detected
a
strong
odor.
However,
the
violation
was
not
attributed
to
a
business.
Rather
it
was
an
individual
who
was
smoking
cannabis
in
their
backyard.
F
Okay,
so
duly
noted
on
your
concern,
but
we
also
have
to
be
careful
of
perceptions
as
well
and
we
went
through
a
similar
thing
with
vacation
rentals
as
well,
and
it
took
a
long
time
to
deal
with
the
verb,
the
reality
versus
the
perceptions-
and
we
know
that's
going
to
be
a
big
part
of
it
too,
but
we
see
that
our
our
complaints
are
down
dramatically
and
pretty
minimum
for
the
most
part.
Obviously
we
want
to
get
them
to
zero,
but
more
important.
We
want
to
make
sure
they're
legitimate
yeah.
C
Absolutely
that's
why
objective
process
is
so
important
because
that's
the
only
one
that's
going
to
be
credible.
For
example,
st.
Croix
is
a
manufacturer
of
this
equipment
and
one
of
their
requirements
is
that
you,
if
you
have
an
an
average
or
above-average
sense
of
smell
you
disqualified,
from
using
the
equipment
the
equipment
is
actually
designed
to
defeat
detection.
C
G
G
They
recommended
use
of
additional
equipment
that
can
actually
measure
threshold
of
odor
which,
if
it's
a
which
a
business
owner
can
put
on
and
I'll,
have
him
explain
it
because
he
was
one
who
was
there
with
him,
but
there's
technology,
that's
evolving
every
day
that
we're
on
top
of
it's
not
like,
we
were
just
saying
the
nasal
Ranger
is
everything
because
we
know
it's
not,
but
it's
the
best
available
at
the
time
that
we
invested
in
it.
Yes,
we're.
F
Also,
finding
that
the
best
nasal
Rangers
are
enforcement,
people
who
can
smell
I,
mean
and
I
don't
mean
that
in
a
glib
way,
if
there's
odor
out
there,
they're
gonna
notice
it
yeah
and
and
they're
gonna
notice,
if
it's
strong
or
if
it's
weak
and
what
those
exact
readings
are,
are
less
important
to
us
than
eliminating
the
odor
from
that
facility.
Yeah.
That's
why
it's
number
one
goal
so.
C
The
next
thing
is
on
the
green
zone,
so
there's
a
lot
of
rumors
going
around
and
unfortunately
Marcus
already
left.
He
could
probably
address
it,
but
some
have
been
saying
that
the
proposed
green
zone
couldn't
happen
because
of
utilities.
There
was
some
comments
about
that.
We
did
a
little
research
and
I
actually
spoke
with
some
of
the
venn,
the
businesses
that
already
exist,
so
it
turns
out
Mission,
Valley,
Water
District
is
already
supplying
water
even
to
like
the
pilot
stations
and
the
FedEx
building
and
everything
else
up
there
and
as
far
as
septic.
C
C
You
can
put
in
septic
as
long
as
you
have
batch
with
it,
a
batch
system
to
go
along
with
it
and
as
far
as
the
other
electric
and
phone
and
Internet,
that's
all
done
by
poll
utility.
So
it
really
is
feasible
and
I.
Think
it's
really
important
that
we
support
that
green
zone,
not
just
for
cannabis,
but
also
for
other
businesses
that
might
want
to
go
up
there,
because
that's
gonna
expand
our
economic
base.
We.
C
As
well
support
that
and
also
I
I
thought
Joy's
property
that
sat
out
there
by
itself
was
part
of
the
Green
Zone
and
if
it
isn't
I'm
sure
I
certainly
would
support
that
it'd
be
included
in
there
too.
We
want
that
opportunity
for
others,
so
that's
good,
we'll
leave
it
at
that.
We've
all
been
here
too
long.
So
thanks.
F
K
In
the
FedEx
building,
we're
also
in
another
facility
on
the
claim
in
north
of
the
freeway
and
the
problems
are
all
solvable.
We're
constantly
looking
for
new,
environmentally
sound
ways
to
solve
the
problems.
Fedex.
Specifically,
though,
we
have
water,
there
is
no
sanitation
appropriate.
So
we
do
a
full
reclamation
process
there,
which
is
very
effective,
and
then
we
reduce
it
down
to
actually
an
environmentally
sound
sludge.
That
goes
and
is
picked
up
by
a
a
waste
disposal
system,
and
actually
it
is
it's
non-toxic.
K
It's
actually
very
environmentally
sounding
can
be
reused,
so
there
are
issues
there
are
ways
to
solve
all
the
problems
there.
I
do
want
to
point
out
in
all
the
conversations
very
quick.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
considering
a
tax
incentive
for
locations,
one
of
the
things
that
I
know
based
on
the
facilities
that
we've
built
and,
as
you
know,
we're
both
just
north
of
San,
Rafael
and
also
north
of
the
freeway-
is
that
our
buildings
have
quote
unquote.
Gentrified
the
areas
we've
cleaned
up
where
there
are
no
longer
drug
use
in
the
areas.
K
Our
cameras
have
provided
assistance
to
the
police
in
solving
disputes.
Her
crimes
that
have
gone
on,
we
have
improved
landscaping,
we've
taken
derelict
buildings
and
put
in
millions
of
dollars
to
renovate
them
and
I
think
that
there's
always
this
talk
about
odor
and
all
of
the
things
that
are
the
problem,
but
we're
solving
also
other
problems
that
the
community
has
and
I
think
there
needs
to
be.
K
A
balance
between
that
I
think
it's
very
very
important
to
recognize
that
when
somebody
makes
a
commitment
to
a
20,000
or
30,000
square
foot,
building
that
has
been
abandoned
and
is
now
retrofitting
it.
One
I
believe
that
you
have
to
consider
all
of
the
issues
around
a
retrofitted
building,
that's
30
years
old
and
whether
you
can
achieve
a
hundred
percent
elimination
and
even
if
you're
effective,
at
reducing
it
to
almost
zero.
K
You
can
have
the
mistake
of
that
on
the
day,
you're
harvesting
somebody
opens
the
door
to
go
to
their
car
and
for
a
period
of
time
you
will
have
odor
and
the
wind
will
pick
it
up
in
that
region
and
will
distribute
it.
So
I
think
that
it's
a
very
complex
matrix
of
items
that
have
to
be
continuing
considered.
So
anyway,
that's
my
and
I
appreciate
it
and
I
really
appreciate
what
you're
doing
in
regards
to
the
incentive.
I'd
love
an
incentive
also
based
on
local
employment,.
F
You
know
when
we
make
your
lives
work
better.
Our
lives
work
better,
and
you
know
anything
we
can
do
to
keep
it
legal
and
incentivize
it,
so
it
makes
sense
to
be
legal.
We
want
to
do
that.
You
know
we're
trying
to
be
a
model
for
the
industry
much
in
the
way
we
ended
up
being
that
on
the
vacation,
rental,
industry
and
other
things.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
coming.
I
think
we
learned
a
lot
again.
Do
not
hesitate
ever
picking
up
the
phone.