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Okay,
all
in
favor
aye
opposed
all
right.
This
is
time
for
public
comment.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
measure,
Jay
Commission
and
agenda
items
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
Commission.
Although
the
measure
Jay
Commission
values,
anyone's
comments
pursuant
to
the
Brown
Act,
it
generally
cannot
take
any
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
Each
speaker
will
have
three
minutes.
Do
we
have
anyone
from
the
public?
We
do
not.
B
All
right
welcome
everyone,
I
just
have
one
quick
comment
and
we
Penna
straight
from
doing
this.
As
we
get
into
discussion
with
any
of
the
agenda,
it
would
be
best
if
we
make
sure
that
we
kind
of
raise
our
hand
when
we
want
to
speak
so
that
you
can
be
acknowledged,
and
that
will
do
it
in
order
instead
of
just
jumping
in
because
some
people
do
kind
of
raise
their
hand,
and
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
courteous
of
everyone
who
wants
to
speak.
B
J
Have
not
no
so
there's
a
concern
from
counsel
that,
although
we've
done
our
work
to
identify
what
we
recommend
for
capital
projects,
there's
a
whole
nother
world
of
projects
out
there.
That
perhaps
should
also
be
considered.
You
know,
like
the
library
you
know
whatever
it
is,
and
so
that's
a
challenge
for
us,
because
how
do
you
come
up
with
the
list
of
everything?
J
J
B
J
K
J
Fire
station
anyway,
phase
two
would
include
the
other
fire
stations
in
the
animal
shelter
and
that's
another
week
s
four
hundred
fifty
thousand.
So
as
it
turns
out,
the
system
is
actually
starting
to
fail.
So
we're
glad
that
we
have
warded
the
the
contract.
So
you
can
scratch
keyless
entry
or
at
least
reduce
it.
But
my
guess
is
we'll
probably
if
we
end
up
expanding
that,
take
it
out
of
capital
funds,
general
funds,
but.
A
J
And
I
do
want
to
mention
a
project.
That's
been
listed
that
I
want
on
the
record,
be
given
the
flooding
that
we've
had
recently.
You
know
we
identified
storm
drain
line
3,
which
is
a
storm
drain
system
up
on
Sunrise
in
San
Rafael.
It
would
have
extended
through
the
Serena
Park
neighborhood.
That
was,
as
you
might
remember,
due
to
a
resident
that
had
requested
it.
J
I
really
don't
again
and
I
said
this,
then
recommend
it
wasn't
my
intent
that
that
got
listed
as
a
staff
recommendation
I
think
there
was
some
confusion,
there's
actually
a
line
20,
which
is
my
next
critical
storm
drain
that
I'd
like
for
us
to
start
tracking
and
so
I
think
in
updated.
It's
not
on
here!
So
I
just
want
you
to
not
be
confused.
When
you
see
updated
project
lists
line,
three
Wilden
will
say
line
I
think
it's
20.
J
B
J
It's
a
river
and
so
there's
already
a
storm
drain
that
runs
up
el
cielo
and
dumps
to
the
creek.
In
my
mind,
I've
seen
that
as
the
next
critical
one
we've
identified
it
with
a
flood
control
district,
but
they've
basically
put
all
their
money
into
storm
drain
line,
41,
which
deals
with
the
flooding
over
there
by
Safari
mobile
home
park
and
Rimrock,
and
ties
into
the
stuff
they've
done
in
Cathedral
City
and
finally
gets
rid
of
the
whole
flood
zone
that
affects
all
those
condos
down.
There.
J
That's
been
our
top
priority
for
like
15
years
and
so
they're.
Finally,
wrapping
that
project
up
they're
paying
for
that,
but
it
sucks
up
all
the
tax
increment
they
accrue
for
projects
in
our
area,
which
means
it's
left
to
the
city
to
fund
it,
and
we
only
get
you
know.
We
charge
us
a
nominal
drainage
fee
on
building
permits
so
with
each
building
permit,
that's
not
each
but
like.
When
you
build
a
house,
it's
a
vacant
lot.
A
J
So
I
remember
when
I
was
still
here
before
I
went
to
read
out
to
one
of
the
things
I
did
when
when
we
were
trying
to
put
together
the
list
of
everything,
I
did
put
together
a
whole
bunch
of
requests
for
all
these
main
storm
drain
projects.
You
know
they're,
not
sexy,
nobody
sees
them,
but
when
you
need
them,
you
want
them
so
I
mean
that's
something.
I
would
just
add
to
the.
A
J
B
A
K
L
J
F
J
A
J
A
M
A
A
B
And
I
know
that's
something
we
need
to
look
at
in
preparation
for
May,
so
I
guess
for
next
month.
We
definitely
want
and
updated,
maybe
less
Joel
of
those
priorities,
and
then
we
can
discuss
again
priorities
based
on
staff
recommendation
from
last
year,
which
a
lot
of
it
hasn't
been
approved,
relook
and
see
what
you
know.
Obviously
the
key
list
is
not
maybe
something
we
need
to
look
at
so
that
takes
475
off
the
table.
A
A
B
F
K
So
for
the
project
update,
I
wanted
to
kind
of
focus
in
on
the
two
big
projects
that
we're
working
on
funded
by
measure
J,
which
is
the
police
station
and
the
fire
station
the
fire
station.
We
were
working
with
the
contractor
to
get
that
complete,
we're
hoping
to
get
it
complete
or
substantially
complete
by
May
May
Sabbath
approximately
made
the
next
first
two
weeks
in
May
yeah,
so
the
fire
department
is
pretty
excited
about
moving
into
that
facility.
You
know
we
did.
It
was
a
historical
designated
building.
K
So
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
needed
to
be
done.
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
think.
We've
ever
talked
to
about
the
the
building
itself,
but
it
was
there's
lots
of
wood
that
was
exposed
with
a
lot
of
wood
raw
termite
rot.
So
there's
a
lot
of
once
they
started
digging
the
contractor
started
digging
into
that
building.
They
really
found
some
some
issues
that
needed
to
be
addressed,
so
they
they
were
actually
up
to
the
challenge
and
and
work
well
to
meet
the
schedule.
K
K
K
J
B
K
We've
run
into
some
challenges
with
the
contractor
city
had
to
take
some
action,
we're
right
now,
working
with
the
surety
to
see.
You
know
how
we
can
I
guess
resolve
the
issues
that
we
have
we're
hoping
to
come
in
to
a
conclusion,
with
the
surety
to
be
able
to
continue
the
project
right
now
there
were
four
phases
or
four
different
sections
within
the
police
department
that
were
being
worked
on.
K
Two
of
them
were
occupied
by
the
police
they
needed
to
get
in
there,
so
we
were
able
to
occupy,
but
there's
still
some
work
that
needs
to
be
done
and
two
other
spaces
actually
I'll.
Take
that
back
three
spaces
were
after
pied
by
the
police
station.
The
third
space
has
not
been
occupied,
which
is
directors
and
Lobby,
which
is,
unfortunately,
their
main
entrance,
but
that
one
is
on
hold
and
as
soon
as
we
resolve
the
issues
with
the
surety,
we're
gonna
continue
working
on
the
project
in
the.
E
Hunker
I
a
question:
I
was
over
there
today
and
I
went
into
records
which
is
working
out
of
one
little
room,
which
was
the
detective
bureau
and,
and
it
sort
of
looks
like
it.
Everything
looks
like
nobody's
working
at
all.
It's
all
abandoned
looking
when
you
walk
through
the
building,
and
that
is
there
well
right
a
real
plans
for
the.
K
Contractor
by
council
was
was
fired,
was
essentially
yeah.
They
were
removed
from
their
obligation
of
constructing
the
project
and
right
now
we're
in
a
phase
where
we're
trying
to
work
with
the
surety
who
holds
the
bonds
for
the
project
to
remedy
the
situation.
So
there
is
no
activity
going
on
at
the
police
station
currently
Wow.
Thank
you.
H
K
K
G
L
G
G
The
polls
are
scheduled
to
come
in
June,
and
so
we
would
expect
the
contractor
to
start
mobilizing
sometime
in
May
ahead
of
the
poll
installation.
So
you're
gonna
see
some
activity
on
the
Indian
Canyon,
two-way,
probably
starting
mid
to
late
May.
With
regard
to
the
other
project,
which
is
on
Palm
Canyon
as
well
as
it
goes
around
the
curve
and
then
East
Palm
Canyon.
We
just
had
our
pre-construction
meeting
with
the
contractor.
G
Today
they
will
start
their
pothole
investigation
so
that
we
can
order
the
long
lead
items
which
is
the
traffic
signal
polls,
so
they're
gonna.
After
discussing
you
know,
availability
of
their
screw.
Their
crew
is
available
middle
of
April,
which
we
have
Coachella
the
two
weekends
of
Coachella
and
the
weekend,
a
stagecoach
on
Palm
Canyon.
As
you
know,
the
sidewalks
are
packed,
everybody
felt
it
would
be
safer
for
the
contractor
because
they
don't
want
to
work
amongst
that,
a
big
crowd
either.
G
C
K
Contractor
I
believe
has
300
days
to
complete
the
project,
but
the
situation
is
with
treta
actual
pull
ordering
of
the
poles.
There's
only
two
manufacturers
in
all
the
United
States
to
actually
deliver
those
poles
so
where
we
once
we
get
or
we
find
out
what
the
dimensions
of
the
poles
will
be,
or
we
essentially
go
pothole
to
figure
out.
If
there's
any
conflicts
once
we're
clear,
we
order
those
poles.
Then
it
takes
about
40
weeks
to
get
those
poles.
M
G
B
Like
we
have
yeah
and
then
the
downtown
area,
it's
just
those
the
new
way
of
the
diagonal
crosswalk
right,
click
on
all
direction,
correct
and
as
far
as
Indian
Canyon,
once
that's
two-way.
This
is
not
including
anything
as
far
as
traffic
circle
down
by
near
sunny
dunes.
This
is
just
they're.
Gonna
have
to
funnel.
J
F
B
A
K
We
haven't
started
the
design
of
that
roundabout,
yet
most
roundabouts
are
designed
to
facilitate
turning
movements
of
bigger
trucks
and
including
the
fire
trucks.
So
I
would,
when
we
start
the
design
or
when
we
get
to
that
point,
we
wouldn't
be
wouldn't
put
a
traffic
circle
that
wouldn't
allow
for
turning
movements
or
to
allow
those
bigger
trucks
to
use
it.
Yeah.
G
So
when
we
applied
for
the
grants,
we
thought
a
really
rough
engineering
estimate.
It
would
be
about
a
million
dollars
to
do
that
as
they
started
to
put
more
eyes
on
it
scope
creep.
You
know
all
that
kind
of
thing
it
ballooned
to
two
million
dollars
once
we
knew
we
didn't
have
that
kind
of
money.
We
kind
of
put
the
design
on
hold
and
we
didn't
further
flush
it
out,
but
if
there
are
still
things
that
we
need
to
flush
out
with
that
design,
so
that's
kind
of
what
the
status
of
it
now.
B
You
know
that
roundabout
I
don't
know.
I
just
feel
like
this
is
not
well
planned.
We
can't
Helen
again.
This
is
not
a
measure.
J
issue,
it's
kind
of
a
citizen
issue,
but
I
just
see
everyone
screaming
about
this
once
that
happens
and
how
it's
it's
just
gonna
be
a
nightmare
on
Ramon
I,
don't
know
if
that
little
section
next
to
Bank
of
America.
If
that
will
remain
one
way
or
if
that
becomes.
J
M
L
B
N
B
N
M
B
J
Will
give
an
update
cuz?
I
they
I've,
been
kind
of
handling
the
downtown
park
trying
to
hand,
but
the
construction
drawings
are,
in
final
plan
check
they've
been
through
a
couple
rounds
with
our
building
department,
so
those
plans
are
expected
to
be
complete
in
the
next
few
weeks,
and
so
my
hope
is
to
bring
the
formality
of
the
final
approval
and
authorization
to
bid
to
Council
on
their
second
meeting
in
April.
So
we're
basically
on
schedule.
So
Rios's
team
has
really
done
a
great
job.
J
J
B
J
A
line
item
it
is
so
that's
why
you
see
the
downtown
property
maintenance
and
other
expenses
continues
every
year,
and
so
in
the
1920
budget.
You
see
550,000
so
that
that
that
was
purposeful,
because
we
knew
as
we
developed
the
downtown
project,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we
had
funding
to
maintain
all
the
new
streets
and
landscaping
and
what-have-you.
This
would
also
include,
then
we're
starting
to
incur
costs
against
that
account.
You
know
for
maintaining
and
sweepings
of
downtown
core.
You
know
new
elevators
that
we
know
all
sorts
of
expenses,
but
you're
right.
J
So
it's
likely
that
that
budget
may
need
to
increase
over
time
based
on
whatever
it's
gonna
cost.
I,
don't
know,
what's
gonna
cost.
What
will
happen
is
we'll
have
to
start
getting
proposals
from
some
vendors
that
do
that
kind
of
maintenance
on
that
complicated
system,
and
it
could
be
a
hundred
thousand
a
year
just
to
maintain
the
pool
equipment,
which
is
what
it
is
right
and
that
kind
of
a
complicated
system.
And
then
you
know
we'll
have
a
contractor.
B
B
Obviously,
but
I
think
I
think
the
public
is
not
aware
of
some
of
these.
You
know.
There's
the
joke
around
the
city
is
the
fountain
in
Francis
Stevens
Park.
You
know
how
that
just
constantly
needs
maintenance
and
it
needs
paint,
and
it's
just
one
of
those
things
that
becomes
a
big
line
item
for
the
city.
This
waterfall
seems
to
be
potentially
could
be
even
a
bigger
line
item
and
you
know
I,
don't
know
that.
B
That's
very
prudent
as
far
as
you
know,
if
this,
if
this
parks
already
somewhat
over
budget
and
now
we're
adding
some
an
element
to
it,
that's
going
to
take
out
a
measure
J
and
it
could
be
like
you
said
it
possibly
could
be
as
high
as
a
hundred
thousand
there's
mr.
Zand
foggers,
and
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
things
going
on
there.
B
E
E
A
nice
ring,
oh
thank
you,
I'm,
going
by
memory,
because
gods
and
I
are
the
representatives
for
the
measure
J
for
Parks
and
Recreation
Group.
There
hasn't
been
a
meeting
in
probably
five
months
and
at
the
last
meeting
at
the
last
meeting
when
this
water
fall
discussion
came
up.
We
discussed
about
the
fact
that
I
remember
the
contract
that
the
city
had
to
get
on
the
the
front
on
the
on
the
fountain
and
on
alejo.
That
I
think
the
last
company
said
who
had
done
the
maintenance
on
the
Bellagio
said.
E
They
would
only
take
it
if
they
had
a
five-year
contract
because
it
was
continually
having
a
problem
and
the
way
I
understood
it
was
when
they
got
all
the
bids
on
all
of
it,
and
it
came
back
to
the
next
meeting
which
there
hasn't
been.
We
would
hear
what
the
cost
would
be
for
maintenance
and
that
to
decide
whether
or
not
it
was
going
to
go
ahead
with
that
program.
B
E
B
As
far
as
the
actual
final
final
plan
to
the
park-
and
it
just
seems
like
we've
gone
forward-
the
design
they're
gonna
present
it,
and-
and
that's
that's
really
where
my
line
of
questioning
was
is
if
this
is
something
that
at
least
the
public
has
a
chance
to
address
to
council
before
they
vote
on
those
funds,
and
you
know
put
the
stamp
on
the
actual
design.
Do
we
look
at
that?
One
single
element
of
the
park
and
say
you
know?
Maybe
this
needs
to
be
altered.
J
J
Item
but
it
not
whether
I
mean
not
the
core
design
element
of
the
of
the
water
features,
so
we
went
to
Council
I
believe
in
September,
I,
don't
know
the
day,
but
I
brought
the
item
to
counsel
and
counsel
essentially
approved
the
the
design,
development,
drawings,
100%
design,
demo
Majoris
and
we've
moved
into
the
construction
drawings.
Okay,.
B
B
We
can
maybe
have
that
chance
to
revisit
it.
It's
not
that
I'm
totally
against
it.
It's
just
a
concern.
You
know
and
we're
talking
to
other
people
around
the
city
they're
a
little
concerned
you
know
is
this
gonna
become
one
of
those
things
that
just
is
a
huge
ticket
item
for
the
city
that
falls
on
everyone's
books.
That
we've
got
to
fix
this
and
you
know
how
necessary
is
that
element.
B
I
G
Don't
remember:
I'd
have
to
go
check
it
out,
but
I
can
follow
up
and
look
into
that.
But
it's
the
parking
on
Palm
Canyon
is
very
difficult
and
then
the
portion
on
East
pumpkin
and
is
actually
relatively
easy,
so
I
think
it
and
then,
since
Palm
Canyon
is
a
one-way
street.
It
does
make
it
slightly
easier
to
construct,
whereas
Indian
Canyon
were
actually
flipping
the
direction
of
traffic.
So
that's
a
little
bit
more
time
to
take
so
I
would
say
it's
less
than
300
working
days,
but
I
don't
a
ballpark
even
to
Giggy.
Sorry
and.
J
The
challenge
we
have
is
these
long
lead
items
on
these
poles,
but
then,
once
the
poles
come
in,
the
contractor
wants
to
start
working
and,
of
course,
that's
usually
during
our
peak
season.
So
it's
coming
because
it
just
heads
up
it's
challenging
to
try
to
put
it
all
together,
so
that
we're
working
between
you
know
May
and
October.
It's
just
not
possible
I
mean
as
it
is,
with
the
Indian
two-way.
It's
very
likely.
They're
gonna
be
still
working
and
wrapping
it
up
in
December.
It
just
depends
on
how
long
it
takes
them.
J
I
mean
we
had
to
give
them
enough
time
to
really
do
the
project
with
the
amount
of
work
that's
going
on
and
we're
still
in
our
head,
trying
to
figure
out
how
they're
gonna
actually
flip
the
switch
and
make
it
to
way,
and
the
only
way
to
do
it
really
is
to
make
all
of
those
maybe
go
block
by
block,
but
they're,
probably
going
to
be.
The
signals
will
be
just
always
stopped.
So
traffic
will
be
a
nightmare
during
construction,
but
it's
just
it's
a
difficult
project
to
implement.
A
J
That
was
my
recommendation.
We'll
need
to
award
a
contract,
you
know
maybe
in
September,
so
we'll
need
them
find
the
fun
somewhere.
For
that
the
the
dream
hotel
still
owes
us,
the
2.1
million
left
on
their
parking
fee
so
and
they
have
a.
They
have
a
requirement
to
pay
that.
So
the
idea
was
to
offset
that
payment
so
that
2
million
that's
plugged
for
this
current
fiscal
year
would
be
freed
up,
but
we're
we're
not
releasing
it
until
the
other
funds
are
in
hand,
and
then
we
know
that
we've
made
that
payment.
E
E
B
Just
real
quickly
before
we
move
on
to
new
business.
B
It
is
with
staff
recommendation
as
far
as
what
will
recommend
to
Council
and
I'm
willing
to
open
that
up
for
for
discussion,
although
we
don't
have
the
the
complete
list
I
want
for
next
month,
Joel,
if
you
can
get
us
that
list,
that
has
the
the
drainage
and
then
you
know,
basically
the
list
of
projects
that
you
see
that
our
you
can
list
several
of
them
and
then
last
year
we
kind
of
as
a
group.
We
voted
on
different
projects
and
we
actually
did
it
I
think
via
email.
B
A
The
process,
works
and
staff
does
the
same
thing,
but
separately
from
us
is
we'll.
Have
the
full
list
will
be
descriptors
on
almost
everything
and
then
you
will
all
go
home
individually
and
pick
our
top
five.
What
are
the
most
important?
What
do
we
think
should
be
our
top
priorities?
We
didn't
send
those
to
Ariana
she
tabulates
them.
She
brings
them
to
the
next
meeting.
Staff
tells
us
that,
with
their
top
5,
our
Ariana
says
this
is
the
top
5
that
we
decided
on,
and
then
we
discuss
it
because
we
can
still
change
it.
A
A
Cat
RMS
we
got
a
week
before
we
present
it
to
the
City
Council,
so
just
don't
be
shocked.
We've
made
a
decision
and
we're
feeling
great
about
it
and
we've
sent
it
in
the
City
Council
and
they
go.
Oh
did
we
tell
you
about
so,
but
that
that's
normally
how
we
do
it.
It
seems
to
work
very
well
and
you
can
reach
out
to
Joel
or
Don
or
Marcus.
Even
he's
really
good.
A
A
K
L
K
C
B
Are
you,
and
are
you
referring
to
even
projects
our
way
out
of
our
budget?
As
far
as
the
money
allocated
you
know,
we
dealt
with
that
last
year
and
correct
me:
if
I'm
wrong,
you
know
we
can.
We
can
look
really
at
anything.
If
you
want
to
pick
the
poem,
you
know
the
downtown
theater,
that's
you
know,
25
million
or
whatever
you
can
choose
it,
and
we
know
too
that
a
lot
of
that
money
doesn't
it
could
be
a
portion.
You
know
it
could
be
something
that
just
gets.
It
started
whether
it's
some
engineering
test.
B
We
know
that
these
projects
are
multi-year
and
are
way
out
there.
So
we
can,
you
know
I,
guess,
use
you,
you
can
use
your
discretion.
You
can
look
I
last
year.
How
we
kind
of
came
to
the
five
was
being
sensitive
to
what
money
we
had
available
for
the
most
part,
if
I
recall,
and
then
a
lot
of
it
was
input
from
staff.
You
know
what
what
do
you
guys
see?
You
know
this:
how
the
city's
working
is
this
keyless
entry
thing
of
issue?
B
Apparently
it
is
because
half
of
the
properties
now
are
starting
to
to
nosedive.
You
know
how
how
important
were
the
Bullards,
and
that
was
a
big,
a
big
deal
for
downtown.
So,
but
you
know,
if
there's
something,
that's
that's
passionate
and
we
know
the
library
is
a
very
passionate
project
as
well.
But
it's
it's
a
lot
of
money,
but
you
know
we
can
definitely
address
it.
C
B
F
A
So
that's
why
we
brought
that
up
and
just
on
back
of
what
Jim
just
said
is:
yes,
we
really
listen
to
staff
and
it
were
and
we're
usually
very,
very
close,
but
we're
never
identical.
We
always
have
our
certain
things
like
the
park.
Restrooms
we
put
on
is
our
top
priority
every
year
staff
never
ever,
and
so
it's
just
one
of
those
things
so
don't
feel
obligated.
A
I
mean
absolutely
we
listen
to
staff
and
they
they're
great
and
enjoy
working
with
you,
but
we
don't
always
agree
100%
and
so
feel
comfortable
that
if
there's
something
that
you
really
believe
in
that
you
think
that
the
community
could
benefit
from
then
bring
it
out
there
I
mean
everybody.
That's
why
there's
nine
of
us
to
do
that?
An
example
of
what
Jim
also
was
talking
about
Department
CAD.
We
only
propose
two
men.
A
The
total
budget
was
to
me
and
230,000,
but
there
was
a
piece
that
didn't
have
to
be
done
right
away
and
for
because
of
budget
constraints,
so
that
would
be
an
example
and
then
the
other
one
was
like
you
said
with
the
library
we
once
spent
five
million
dollars
of
ours.
You
know
a
million
dollar
budget
on
that.
We
can
do
that.
It's
just
up
to
us
the
Commission
to
do
make
that
decision.
B
Okay,
any
other,
so
let's
move
on
to
small
business
and
I'm
gonna
hand
it
over
to
Commissioner
Craig.
We
want
to
discuss
the
1ps
picnic,
that's
coming
up
this
Saturday
and
if
we
can
first
focus
on
the
logistics
and
who's
gonna,
be
there
when
and
the
hours
and
then
we
can
move
on
to
the
communications
piece
of
that
as
well.
Well,.
E
I
wanted
to
tell
everybody
the
tent
is
done.
Everything
has
been
finished.
Ariana
was
terrific.
She
and
I
went
over
to
the
city
yard
three
days
ago
and
they
found
four
measure.
J
signs
covered
in
mud,
I
took
them
home,
I
washed
them
clean
them.
They
look
perfect
I,
literally
literally,
so
we
have.
We
have
the
signage.
The
tent
looks
great
with
measure
J
I
open.
You
checked
everything
yesterday
with
it
have
a
cover
for
the
table.
We
have
the
materials,
everybody
has
the
badges
it's
from
11:00
to
2:00.
E
M
You
would
rather
us
just
show
up
at
any
time,
rather
than
giving
a
specific
one.
Our
slots,
cuz
I,
think
would
be
easier
for
me
if
I
knew
I'm
committed
from
12
to
one
cuz,
I'm
gonna
be
there
with
my
husband,
and
you
know
you
know
so
it
would
I
just
think.
There's
nine
of
us.
You
know
unless
you
want
to
stay
there,
the
whole
time
no,
but
it
would
be
I
just
think-
would
be
easier.
I'm.
Somebody.
E
B
B
B
B
B
N
N
E
M
B
B
A
H
In
going
through
this
process
and
and
and
Ariana
was
great
help,
thank
you
very
much
in
in
putting
these
things
together
and
a
couple
of
other
things.
Some
questions
occurred
to
me
and
maybe
you
can
clarify
it.
Maybe
staff
members
know
you
know
I
note
that
there's
a
there
is
actually
a
communications
budget
I
think
this
past
year
or
for
this
the
current
fiscal
year,
it's
nine
thousand
seven
hundred
and
eighty
nine
dollars
or
something
to
that
effect
and
there's
been
a
budget
as
far
as
I
can
tell
going
back.
H
D
D
C
B
Definitely,
and
did
we
was
that
when
we
said
it
would
be
nice
for
Marcus
to
be
here
for
the
discussion,
because
you
know
that
was
kind
of
the
main
and
we
probably
are
kind
of
moving
on
to
5b,
because
the
communication
subcommittee
I
believe
you
guys
did
meet
correct
so
and
is
that
what
is
this?
What
kind
of
came
out
of
some
of
that
I'm
sure
you
have
more
to
report,
but
this
is
one
of
the
items
and
I
know
that
we
had
talked
to
that.
We
wanted
to
kind
of
push
this
forward.
B
B
N
D
N
H
H
F
I
Just
to
clarify
Nate
feel
free
to
clarify
if
I'm
kind
of
misinterpreting
this
but
I
think
they
also.
The
idea
was
that
the
communications
part
of
community
engagement
right
and
so
having
resources
and
materials
to
engage
with
the
community
and
similarly,
how
we're
doing
this
weekend
with
the
picnic
but
other
community
events
or
convenings.
So
you
know
I'm
definitely
very
curious
about
this
as
well.
Can
we
take.
K
It
and
research
it
among
staff,
and
maybe
we
work
with
the
finance
department
to
see
how
it
is
that
you
obtain
first
$2,000
to
that
that
you
receive
for
the
10
for
the
actual
pop-up
and
then
see
if
there's
another
way
to
give
money.
For
we
don't
know
that
answer
right
now,
but
we
can
definitely
research
it
for
you.
I've.
D
N
M
H
Of
that
you
know
what
I'm
happy
to
do,
that
Ariana's
been
great
she's
got
them
all
printed
out,
I'll,
take
him
to
FedEx,
we'll
mount
them
on
some
boards.
It's
five
bucks
apiece!
It's
no
big
deal,
but
going
forward
I,
just
I
just
think
we
should
have
a
method.
I,
don't
know
about
the
other
new
members,
but
you
know
when
I
interviewed
with
the
City
Council,
it's
one
of
the
things
that
I
emphasized
is
effectively.
This
is
a
voluntary
tax.
H
L
I
wanted
to
add
some
of
the
elements
before
the
subcommittee
update
and
building
on
what
others
have
said.
What
we
went
through
with
Ariana's
help
was
to
do
some.
Some
modest
achievements
for
the
picnic
and
those
modest
achievements
are
in
response
to
this
handful
of
needs
that
we
collectively
we're
talking
about
and
talking
about
part
of
it
is,
is
money
and
access
to
designated
funds.
Other
aspects
of
that
are,
how
do
we
get
permission
to
use
images
that
already
exist
in
that
are
used
elsewhere
by
the
city?
How
do
we
get
permissions
to
do
that?
L
How
do
we
maneuver
through
the
mechanisms
of
whether
or
not
Dan,
can
go
to
Kinko's
Kinkos
exist?
Fedex,
Dan,
Gordon
to
FedEx,
spend
$20
of
his
own
money
to
build
foam
core
boards
and
not
be
allowed
a
reimbursement,
because
that's
outside
of
the
approved
process
for
the
city,
so
the
maneuvering
necessary
for
that
and
I
think
is
important
as
anything
is
unidentified.
Who
is
among
the
professionals
for
the
city,
if
not
with
the
City
Council
as
well?
Who
is
it
that
helps
us
work
through
those
processes?
So
we
don't
have
to
ask
each
time.
L
We
need
to
do
something,
but
instead
know
what
the
toolkit
is
available
to
us,
just
as
we
need
available
funds
to
do
it
without
asking
for
permission
at
the
time
in
order
to
act
on
the
mecca,
the
process
that
we're
all
focusing
on,
which
is
outreach
and
explaining
to
the
community
and
giving
feedback
of
what
and
why
we're
doing
things.
Sorry
for
the
long
speech,
but
there's
this
these
threads
that
we
were
able
to
work
through
this
time.
It
would
be
great
not
to
have
to
do
that
again.
The
next
time.
A
I'm
in
total
agreement
with
everything
that's
being
said
here,
though
this
we
had
this
discussion
a
two
and
a
half
years
ago,
and
when
dr.
Reddy
was
here-
and
it
was
explained
to
us
that
we
were
not
allowed
to
use
measure
J
funds
for
any
kind
of
advertising
or
marketing
dollars.
A
So
if
we
need
advertising
or
marketing
dollars,
we
have
to
get
it
from
the
city
separate
from
measure
J
funds,
Christy
holstege
said
she
would
help
us
do
that,
and
I
will
volunteer
to
follow
up
with
her
to
see
and
tell
her
about
our
discussion
today
and
say:
look,
this
is
what
we're
talking
about.
Everybody
agrees
that
this
is
a
problem.
It's
been
a
problem
for
years,
the
City
Council
members,
all
agreeing.
A
So
what
can
we
do
and
how
much
would
it
can
they
come
up
with
and
then
again,
like
you
said,
let's
not
have
to
go
back
to
them
every
time
you
want
to
do
something,
get
a
budget
just
like
everybody
has
a
budget
right
and
say:
okay,
this
is
the
money
we
have
and
then
we
decide
as
a
group
how
we
want
to
spend
it
mostly.
The
communications
that's
just
vote
on
it
after
that,
so
I
will
do.
I
will
take
that
as
mine
and.
M
Ahead,
commissioner
gray
yeah
I'm
on
the
communication
subcommittee
as
well,
but
I
I,
hear
what
Commissioner
Johnson
said
that
we
were
told
you
know
you
can't
use
this
money,
but
city
council
couldn't
make
whatever
decision
they
want
to
make,
and
there
really
isn't
any
law
that
says
we
can't
use
tax
dollars
to
promote
this
anymore.
Then
I
would
build
a
building
and
never
have
a
marketing
budget
in
my
budget.
So
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
is
certainly
on
next
month's
agenda
request.
As
a
communication
marketing
budget
of
some
sort.
M
We
talked
about
putting
out
a
flyer
to
every
citizen
Eve
in
the
city,
and
we
got
a
figure
from
Amy
about
that.
How
much
that
would
cost.
So
you
know
I
think
we
do
need
that,
and
if
city
council
decides
yes
it's
appropriate
to
take
it
out
of
measure
J
funds,
then
we
they
would
give
us
a
line
item
for
that.
So
we
just
have
to
figure
this
out.
M
Whatever
this
particular
line
item
is
that's
already
there
what
that
means,
if
that
can't
be
used
for
flyers
or
brochures
or
web
update
or
whatever
we
need
to
do,
then
we
just
ask
for
a
budget
of
whatever
it
should
be,
and
a
thousand
dollars
a
year
is
probably
what
I
would
say
is
a
minimum,
and
maybe
we
need
up
to
five
thousand
dollars
if
we're
going
to
do
some
sort
of
a
mailer
to
the
city.
But
it's
really
it's.
M
N
M
N
An
update
on
the
Commission
I
mean
on
the
subcommittee.
We've
met
a
couple
of
times
and
we've
had
stops
and
starts
along
the
way
for
the
last
few
years,
but
we
finally
targeted
something
that
was
feasible
for
the
picnic
and
there
will
be
some
kind
of
event
at
the
fire
station.
So
we
at
last
with
Ariana's
help
and
it
wouldn't
have
happened
without
you.
We
have
materials
for
the
first
time
and
a
plan
going
forward.
N
M
M
M
D
D
M
D
M
B
B
It
all
depends
on
what
we
want
to
do
and
I
think
a
mailer
specifically
for
measure.
J,
in
my
opinion,
is
a
big-ticket
item,
you're
looking
at
at
least
eight
thousand
dollars
to
do
a
mailer
to
all
residents.
So
that's
a
lot
of
money
for
one
mailer
and
I
think
we
need
to
work
smarter
and
I.
Think
we
brought
this
up
in
the
last
meeting
where
we
can
work
and
communicate
through
one
PS.
We
can
communicate
through
Denise
who
sends
out
to
residents
every
week
we
can.
B
M
C
But
it
does
seem
when
you're
talking
decision
next
week,
that
of
the
city's
money
of
the
city's
money,
basically
that
to
spend
five
or
ten
thousand
dollars
to
let
people
know
what
that's
going
towards.
It
doesn't
seem
outrageous
to
me,
it
seems
minimal
and
it
seems
worth
it
to
ensure
the
continuance
of
measure,
a
funds
coming.
B
M
I
mean
most
places
you,
you
know,
a
one
percent
out
of
the
budget
is
what
seems
to
me
to
be
feasible
and
as
much
as
I
love.
All
these
ideas
with
the
internet
I
go
back
to
the
fact
that
when
this
measure
was
trying
to
be
passed,
the
city
did
mail
out
something
to
all
voters,
and
that
is
the
only
way
everyone
gets
something
you
can
put
it
in
the
paper.
You
can
do
everything
UN,
but
yes,
and
maybe
they'll,
throw
it
away,
but
at
least
it
was
in
their
hands.
I
B
B
There
was
some
conversation
a
few
months,
I
think
before
this
new
Commission
started
and
I
and
again,
and
is
that
something
that
we
do
through
you
arianna
to
invite
them?
We've
we've
got
them
as
our
next
community
project
if
the
$1,000,000
doesn't
go
automatically
to
the
downtown
part
which
it
might,
but
we
wanted
to.
You
know,
get
input
from
Parks
and
Rec
on
what
where
they
would
like
to
see.
Money
spent
and
I
know
that
they
are
still
working
on
finalizing
kind
of
their
priorities,
but
I
just
didn't
know
the
communication
rod
on
that
I.
A
A
That
right,
that
they're,
aware
of
that
and
number
two
is
Ariana,
helped
us
with
the
process.
Historically,
we
haven't
really
we've
invited
people
in,
but
each
person
only
got
three
minutes.
It
wasn't
like
the
Parks
and
Rec
come
in
and
do
a
presentation
for
20
minutes.
They
would
bring
ten
people
each
got
three
minutes.
Is
that
the
only
way
we
can
do
it.
A
H
M
Maybe,
instead
of
inviting
the
whole
Commission
I
mean
the
library
subcommittee
went
to
the
Board
of
Trustees
and
sort
of
had
a
meeting
with
them
and
sort
of
said
what
a?
How
do
you
want
to
proceed
and
maybe
the
our
Park
subcommittee
should
go
to
their
meeting,
ask
to
go
to
their
meeting
and
get
some
input
and
then
it's
two
or
three
people
dealing
with
them
rather
than
ten
people
coming
to
our
meeting
and
not
really
knowing,
and
then
you
can
begin
the
discussion
with
them
in
a
formalized
way.
M
I
think
rather
I
think
I
kind
of
feel
like
this
is
kind
of
a
little
backwards
so
that
you
know
I
think
it's
good
for
us
to
kind
of
go
to
them
and
say:
look
we
may
have
funds
for
you
in
twenty
twenty
one
or
twenty
one,
twenty
two.
What
are
your
priorities
and
so
forth?
And
then
then
they
can
altogether
discuss
it
and
bring
us
a
report
rather
than
having
them
come
in
just
some
big
discussion.
B
Yep,
that's
fine
and
there's
at
least
three
of
us
on
that
committee.
So
we'll
look
I'll
look
at
their
dates.
I
had
talked
to
I,
don't
think
it
was
their
chair
a
while
back
and
and
that
was
presented
to
and
I
kind
of,
had
that
in
the
back
of
my
head,
but
I've
been
so
busy
to
go
to
their
meeting
and
kind
of
overhear
their
conversation
on
it
so
and
I
was
only
intending
on
really
inviting
the
chair,
yeah.
M
Yeah
but
the
whole
Commission,
if
you,
if
you
make
a
formal
request,
then
it
goes
on
their
agenda
and
it
becomes
a
bit
more
of
a
formalized
process
and
I
think
that
that
makes
it
better
because
then
every
but
all
of
their
commission
members
hear
it.
They
know
what's
going
on,
and
it's
not
you
talking
to
somebody
on
the
side,
because
you
happen
to
know
who
the
chairperson
is,
or
you
know
somebody
on
the
Commission
I
just
think
that
that
it
makes
it
a
little
bit
cleaner
if
we
actually
do
that
process.
That
way,
you.