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Joint Meeting of the City of Palm Springs City Council and the City of Palm Springs Planning Commission, held July 24th, 2023
This broadcast will also include a report on the City Council Closed Session of July 24th, 2023
A
B
B
A
A
D
E
A
You
very
much
sorry
about
that
a
little
technical
difficulty.
So
we
did
have
the
housing
element
item
on
tonight's
agenda,
which
was
a
joint
meeting
with
the
Planning
Commission.
But
City
staff
wants
to
gather
more
information
on
this
item
from
the
community
and
our
stakeholders.
So
therefore
the
Planning
Commission,
a
joint
meeting
tonight
will
be
adjourned
and
the
item
will
be
continued
to
September
14th
2023..
The
city
council
will
be
continuing
the
housing
element
as
part
of
our
acceptance
of
the
agenda
item.
A
All
right.
We
will
then
move
on
to
presentations.
We
gave
two
proclamations
tonight,
one
to
Lee
gigliano
from
procurement
and
Contracting
Department,
who
is
retiring
after
18
years
of
City
service
and
another
for
Robert
perrotti
from
the
fire
department
who
is
retiring
after
27
years
of
City
service.
So
we
thank
you
both
for
your
time
with
the
city
and
your
leadership
in
serving
the
Palm
Springs
residents.
A
So
our
next
item
is
acceptance
of
the
agenda.
The
city
council
will
discuss
the
order
of
the
agenda.
May
amend
the
order
at
urgency,
items,
note,
abstentions
or
no
votes
on
consent,
calendar
items
or
request
consent,
calendar
items
to
be
removed
for
a
separate
discussion,
I'd
like
to
entertain
a
motion
for
acceptance
of
the
agenda.
Are
there
any
items,
staff
or
a
council
member
would
like
removed
for
a
separate
discussion
or
vote
mayor
Pro
Tem.
C
A
Thank
you.
The
next
item
is
public
testimony.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
city
council
on
non-public
hearing
agenda
items.
Only
two
minutes
will
be
assigned
to
each
speaker.
You're
asked
to
please
begin
your
time
by
telling
us
what
agenda
item
or
items
you
are
speaking
about.
Please
note:
the
testimony
for
public
hearings
will
be
taken
at
the
time
of
the
public
hearing
and
any
items
not
on
the
agenda
will
be
taken
later
in
this
evening.
A
H
H
What
an
honor
it
is
to
receive
a
proclamation
from
the
city
that
I
fell
in
love
with
18
years
ago.
I
remember
the
day
after
my
first
interview
and
as
I
left,
the
room
and
I
walked
down
the
executive
Hall
back
towards
the
reception
area.
I,
remember
saying
under
my
breath
to
God
God
I
want
to
work
here,
and
he
answered
my
prayers.
H
All
in
all,
the
city
has
been
a
place
that
I
have
many
fond
memories
of
and
have
made
many
great
friends.
In
addition,
I
want
to
highlight
the
privilege
of
serving
the
board
as
a
board
member
for
the
management
association
of
Palm
Springs,
also
known
as
Maps
I,
currently
sit
as
the
president,
outgoing
president
for
maps.
H
H
I
Interested
Palm,
Springs
residents,
HOAs
and
businesses
should
keep
an
eye
out
on
our
website
so
that
when
it
becomes
available
on
the
site
with
the
four
dollars,
a
square
foot
that
they
can
apply,
the
program
is
online.
It's
quick
and
easy,
and
the
cities
I'm
sorry.
The
agency
staff
are
there
to
help.
If
applicants
hit
a
snag,
the
application
and
requirements
can
be
found
at
dwa.org
grass.
I
I'd
also
like
to
take
a
moment
to
invite
this
council
members
of
this
Council
to
tour
our
facilities
that
are
throughout
the
western
part
of
the
Coachella
Valley.
That
includes
our
settlement
ponds,
where
we,
where
we
place
imported
water
to
recharge
the
aquifer,
as
well
as
a
recycled
water
plant
and
the
hydro
plant
at
Whitewater.
A
J
J
I
come
before
you
as
a
business
owner
who
has
successfully
utilized
the
hotel
and
investment
program
twice
as
one
of
the
owners
of
Santiago
Resort
and
Descanso
Resort.
We
applied
for
and
were
accepted
into
the
program
for
hotel,
Renovations
and
the
program
was
most
definitely
a
factor
in
our
proceeding
with
substantial
Renovations.
In
fact,
on
more
than
one
occasion,
our
success
with
the
program
has
been
called
out
by
different
council
members.
Our
third
Hotel,
the
new
Twin
Palms
Resort,
has
also
applied.
J
Twin
Palms
had
been
closed
for
a
couple
years
and
had
become
an
eyesore
in
the
neighborhood.
We
proceeded
with
major
Renovations
factoring
in
the
same
Hotel
incentive
program
we'd
successfully
utilized
twice
before
the
proposed
amendments
to
the
hotel
incentive
program
have
dramatically
changed
the
incentive
for
one
specific
group
of
small
hotels
if
a
hotel
has
been
vacant
or
under
renovation
for
any
time
in
the
36
months
prior
to
their
application
for
the
program.
J
The
proposed
amendments
reduce
the
incentive
by
half
two
minutes,
doesn't
nearly
give
me
enough
time
to
go
into
the
details,
so
I
hope,
you'll,
read
the
Amendments
and
clearly
understand
what
the
changes
mean
to
small
hotels
in
Palm
Springs
I.
Ask
you
to
consider
why
a
distressed
or
shuttered
hotel
or
even
one
had
been
operating
but
needs
major
Renovations
should
be
penalized
by
the
proposed
changes
any
time
down
for
renovations,
be
it
six
months
or
two
years
will
reduce
the
incentive
by
half.
J
These
are
exactly
the
hotels
I
would
expect
the
city
wants
to
encourage
to
renovate
these
amendments
need
to
be
reconsidered
and
redrafted.
Please
send
them
back
to
staff
tour
rewrite
and
please
make
sure
the
incentive
program
remains,
as
it
was
before,
with
no
penalty
added
for
time,
not
generating
tot.
Thank
you.
Thank.
K
K
The
Monarch
apartments
are
additional
60
units
of
safe,
affordable
housing
in
our
city
and
would
add
additional
60
additional
units
into
the
city's
Reno
numbers.
The
project
has
federal
and
state
tax
credits,
County
funds,
as
well
as
City
funds
as
an
employee
of
Live
to
Rise
an
organization
committed
to
uplifting
our
community
Through
various
housing
initiatives.
I
have
the
privilege
of
seeing
the
positive
impact
that
affordable
housing
has
on
the
lives
of
our
fellow
residents.
K
Providing
additional
2
million
dollars
of
support
for
the
Monaco
Apartments
project
is
an
investment
for
the
future
of
our
community
and
can
affirm
our
commitment
to
ensure
that
every
resident
has
a
place
to
call
home.
The
additional
funding
will
only
enhance
the
scope
and
the
reach
of
the
of
the
Monarch
Apartment
project,
but
also
reflect
the
city's
dedication
to
addressing
the
needs
of
our
most
vulnerable
residents.
K
I
urge
the
esteemed
council
members
of
the
city
to
wholeheartedly
support
item
2B
and
to
make
the
opportunities
and
to
take
this
opportunity
to
make
lasting
impact
on
our
community.
By
back
in
this
project,
we
can
make
progress
towards
a
more
Equitable,
compassionate
and
resilient
Palm
Springs.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration
and
I'm
hopeful
that
I
will
stand
in
that
you
will
stand
in
favor
of
item
2B.
Thank.
A
L
As
we
all
know,
we've
enjoyed
great
success
toward
the
restoration
of
the
Plaza
theater
and
the
theater
as
we
speak,
is
out
to
bid
to
start
work.
Hopefully
this
fall
running.
The
theater
and
operating
the
theater
will
be
another
whole
matter
and
that's
something:
we've
just
embarked
to
to
solve
and
we're
working
with
potential
vendors
to
that
end.
L
We've
been
working
diligently
with
staff,
particularly
attorney
Jeff
Ballinger
and
Teresa
Gallivan,
who
have
been
absolutely
fantastic
to
work
with
in
hammering
out
a
contract
that
the
foundation
can
work
with
the
city
on
it's
on
your
agenda.
You've
pulled
it
so
you'll
discuss
it.
Obviously,
but
the
the
main
item
I'm
here
to
discuss
is
one
particular
item
of
finance,
and
that
is
utilities
on
the
theater.
L
So
I'm
going
to
forward
you
tomorrow,
an
article
from
The,
New,
York
Times
yesterday
that
unfortunately
talks
about
the
failure
rate
of
small
theaters
and
how
old
theaters
are
shutting
down
in
record
numbers.
As
many
of
you
know,
the
taper
theater
in
Los
Angeles
has
shut
down
as
well
all
due
to
funding
and
financing,
we'll
need
all
the
help
we
can
get
to
make
this
work
so
that
we
don't
need
to
come
to
the
city
for
subsidies
to
operate
the
theater.
L
The
one
thing
and
the
one
change
we
are
asking
to
the
mou
in
front
of
you
is
for
the
city
to
cover
utilities,
on
the
theater
being
that
we're
fully
restoring
the
theater
and
and
all
HVAC,
and
everything
else
will
be
replaced.
It
will
be
dramatically
less
expensive
in
terms
of
utilities,
for
the
theater
and
I
think
ultimately
be
much
easier
for
the
city.
We
are
here
myself,
the
vice
president
and
one
of
our
board
members
Kathy
wormick,
is
here
for
questions
tonight.
Should
you
need
us?
Thank
you.
M
Good
evening
all
I'm
Kevin,
Corcoran
and
I'm,
the
vice
president
of
the
Plaza
theater
Foundation
I,
just
want
to
build
on
some
of
Jr's
remarks.
To
date,
we
have
raised
15.7
million
dollars
in
little
more
than
16
months
to
completely
restore
this
theater
and
in
the
process
of
raising
the
money.
We
have
also
made
really
important
decisions
to
build.
M
So,
while
we're
asking
tonight
for
consideration
around
utilities,
I
want
to
remind
both
the
staff
and
the
city
council,
the
economic
impact
this
project
is
going
to
have
in
downtown
people,
talk
about
it
being
a
the
final
final
crown
and
the
restoration
renovation
of
downtown.
It's
going
to
be
much
more
than
that,
because
the
financial
impact
it's
going
to
have
for
Tot
taxes
and
sales
taxes.
M
This
is
a
revenue
generator
and
we
think
that
the
revenue
that's
going
to
be
generated
from
this
theater
will
more
than
offset
any
Investments
to
the
city,
city
and
city
council
have
to
make
in
the
utilities.
So
we
want
to
thank
you
for
your
support
and
remind
you
that
we
have
a
really
exciting
project
and
we
appreciate
your
support
in
all
of
this.
Thank
you.
N
Madam
mayor
members
of
the
council
and
friends
I'm
here
tonight,
as
the
chair
of
the
Planning
Commission
on
and
I
on
the
inclusionary
housing
item
and
also
the
commercial
development
fee
proposal.
3C
there,
our
minutes,
weren't
included
in
your
packet
and
I,
wanted
to
talk
with
you
a
little
bit
about
why
we
unanimously
recommend
that
you
take
this
to
ordinance.
N
The
the
passage
of
this
will
assist
in
a
small
measure
to
increase
housing
units,
and
it
will
also
increase
the
monies
that
you
have
in
an
affordable
housing
fund
and
I
want
to
congratulate
you
for
just
putting
money
into
that,
but
it
will
allow
us
to
attract
non-profit
developers
like
the
ones
that
are
doing
the
three
affordable
projects
in
town.
We
also
like
the
proposal
because
it
was
modest
and
I
want
to
just
say
to
you
that
it
really
is
a
modest
proposal.
It
is
a
start.
N
It
was
geared
in
such
a
way
that
it
it
will
not
in
any
way
discur.
We
don't
believe
it
will
discourage
developers
from
from
utilizing
the
program
either
by
including
units
or
paying
into
a
fund
profit
margins
on
all
of
the
housing
types
are
high
enough
that
this,
that
the
fees
that
are
proposed
in
the
inclusionary
are
a
small
portion
of
that
in
terms
of
the
commercial
fee,
the
impact
fees,
those
are
also
geared
to
be
a
very
small
amount,
but
comparable
to
similar
cities.
N
Similarly,
sized
cities-
and
we
looked
at
it,
we
we
tried
to
be
modest
in
what
we
proposed,
but
we
hope
you
go
forward
with
it,
and
if
you
do,
we
strongly
recommended
that
you
include
in
your
ordinance
an
escalator.
That's
an
annual
escalator,
that's
tied
to
one
of
the
one
of
the
commercial
component
escalators
that
are
published
that
are
widely
published.
Thank
you.
The
other
thing
is
I
just
want
to
say
that
I'm
with
them
in
terms
of
the
theater,
and
thank
you
for
your
support.
Thank.
O
Good
evening
Madame
mayor
City,
Council
Members,
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
I'm
here
to
speak
regarding
item
3E,
the
tot
rebate
program,
my
name
is
Joel
Milner
I'm,
a
local
resident
and
I
recently
purchased
the
chaps
in
on
Camino
Monte
Vista.
With
my
partner,
the
you
know,
our
hotel
has
Decades
of
taught
history,
but
unfortunately
it
was
closed
due
to
covid
and
wasn't
able
to
reopen
due
to
the
passing
of
one
of
the
owners.
So
we've
come
in
recently
to
renovate
and
reopen
the
hotel.
O
Now
we
became
aware
last
week
that
there's
a
change
to
the
proposed
program
whereby
hotels
that
have
had
some
closures
over
the
last
36
months
would
only
participate
at
a
50
level.
You
know
that
was
obviously
a
big
part
of
our
decision
to
invest
and-
and
you
know,
reinvigorate
the
hotel-
and
you
know
the
goal
of
the
program
is
to
elevate
top
revenues
in
partnership
with
local
businesses
and,
of
course,
a
closed.
O
P
Good
evening
that
American,
council
members
and
staff
I'm
was
originally
here
just
to
answer
any
questions
on
3B,
but
I
am
addressing
3C
on
the
inclusionary
zoning.
As
Kathy
said,
this
is
just
another
tool
in
our
toolbox
around
establishing
greater
production
of
affordable
housing.
It
also
really
addresses
the
need,
if
you
look
at
studies
throughout
other
jurisdictions
that
have
done
this
around
the
increase
in
both
market
rate
and
affordable
housing
as
well,
and
really
creates
a
living
livable
Community
for
residents
as
well,
and
then
finally
I'm
going
to
be
really
quick
tonight.
P
But
it
really
will
help
the
city
to
achieve
a
pro-housing
designation,
which
we
as
a
county,
are
trying
to
work
with
our
cities
to
get
those
designations
in
all
28
counties
and
across
this
and
across
the
county
as
well.
As
you
all
know,
getting
that
designation
really
helps
in
assistance
with
Point
scoring
and
the
allocation
of
further
resources
to
affordable
housing.
So
I'd
encourage
your
support
of
3C.
Q
Good
evening,
good
evening,
Matt
good
good
evening,
Madam
mayor
members
of
the
council,
my
apologies
for
just
walking
the
door
I
thought
it
was
at
6
30
our
start
time
tonight.
So
again,
my
name
is
Gretchen
Gutierrez
I'm,
the
CEO
of
the
Desert
Valley
Builders
Association.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
the
moments
to
opt
discuss
with
you
item
3B
on
the
proposal
for
inclusionary
policies
in
your
packet.
You
will
find
that
we
submitted
quite
a
lengthy
detailed
letter.
Q
It
does
start
on
page
83
on
this
agenda
item,
but
I'd
like
to
specifically
highlight
a
couple
of
areas
in
that
letter.
First
of
all,
the
city's
consultant
references
in
a
very
general
term
that
this
policy
quote
may
increase
cost
to
the
development
of
housing
in
other
Industries,
such
as
hotels,
commercial
properties,
industrial
properties,
retail
Etc,
as
any
new
applicant
is
coming
to
the
city.
I
will
say
this:
it's
not
a
May,
it's
a
will.
Q
Our
letter
also
outlines
several
examples:
specific
to
the
single-family
houses
that
are
on
there
with
a
potential
ad
of
an
additional
fifty
thousand
dollars
per
unit,
in
addition
to
additional
construction
costs
versus
adding
in
lieu
set-aside
product.
For
someone
to
be
able
to
afford
that
particular
residence.
The
challenge
with
that
and
you'll
see
my
examples
in
our
letter
is
that
if
you
do
set
aside
units,
that's
great,
but
the
burden
then
falls
on
the
remaining
units
to
cover
the
cost
of
those
construction
costs,
as
well
as
any
increase
in
other
fees.
Q
And
lastly,
my
item
that
I
wanted
to
highlight,
for
you
all,
is
the
lack
of
land
that
the
city
has
available
to
them.
It
is
notated
in
the
staff
report.
We
did
a
brief
analysis.
You
are
very
close
to
build
out
and
at
this
point
my
time
has
run
out,
but
thank
you
for
allowing
you
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
this
evening.
R
S
I
urge
you
to
support
the
city
council,
establishing
both
an
inclusionary
ordinance
and
a
commercial
development
linkage
impact
fee
to
help
increase
the
supply
of
affordable
housing
for
low-income
people
in
Palm
Springs.
We
must
do
our
part
as
a
city
to
provide
more
access
to
affordable
housing.
As
you
know,
our
homelessness
population
is
increasing
and
those
making
minimum
wage
have
been
completely
priced
out
of
the
city.
S
The
character
of
our
city
is
changing
as
a
result:
I'm
not
homeless
and
I'm,
not
low
income
I
own
three
businesses
in
Palm,
Springs
and
I
cannot
afford
to
own
a
home
here
and
my
rent,
which
is
sixty
five
hundred
dollars
a
month,
even
shocks.
My
Bay
Area
friends.
It's
just
become
a
completely
unaffordable
City
and
we
need
to
do
something
to
step
in
and
create
some
solutions.
I
urge
you
to
approve
this
ordinance.
Thank
you.
T
Hi
good
evening,
I'm,
sorry,
oh,
go
ahead.
Hi
good
evening,
mayor
Garner,
members
of
the
council,
proud
district
one
resident
here.
My
name
is
Don
Cecil
and
I
have
the
privilege
of
living
in
the
Hasina
neighborhood
of
Palm
Springs,
where
I
can
assure
you
that
no
developer
is
going
broke.
I
urge
the
council
to
direct
staff
to
formalize
the
inclusionary
housing,
ordinance
and
Commercial
linkage
fees.
T
I
live
in
Palm
Springs,
because
our
city
leads
in
a
crisis.
We
shut
down
first
during
the
coveted
crisis
to
save
lives,
we're
building
a
navigation
Center
to
address
the
homeless
crisis,
and
we
should
be
the
first
to
lead
on
these
policy
solutions
to
the
affordable
housing
crisis,
which
is
not
a
new
crisis.
T
If
a
developer
or
their
trade
Association
is
afraid
to
create
affordable
housing
through
these
modest
policy
proposals,
we
should
not
want
them.
Building
in
Palm
Springs
the
privilege
of
gaining
entitlements
in
Palm
Springs
should
come
with
alignment
to
our
values
on
creating
Homes
at
all
affordability
levels.
T
U
Good
evening,
Madam,
mayor
and
council
members,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
address
agenda
item
3E
amendments
to
the
hotel
operations
incentive
program.
My
name
is
James
Hansen
and
I'm.
One
of
the
owners
of
three
small
hotels
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs,
including
the
newly
reopened
Twin
Palms
Resort,
on
Camino
Real.
U
After
several
years
of
decline,
Twin
Palms
was
closed
in
2018
and
languished
becoming
an
eyesore
and
a
public
safety
hazard.
Today
it
is
a
beautifully
restored
property
welcoming
guests
from
around
the
world
to
Palm
Springs,
and
it
is
generating
significant
tot
income
for
the
city.
In
the
past
three
years,
we've
invested
millions
of
dollars
in
this
project.
One
of
the
very
significant
factors
that
led
us
to
invest
this
capital
is
the
hotel
operations
incentive
program.
This
long-established
city
program
is
a
win-win
for
both
the
city
and
for
business
owners.
U
The
proposed
amendment
being
discussed
tonight
carves
a
small
group
from
the
program
and
limits
the
city
incentive.
This
carved
out
group
includes
properties
that
have
been
closed
or
are
required
to
close
in
order
to
complete
Renovations.
These
are
the
very
properties
the
city
has
the
highest
interest
in
seeing
renovated.
U
The
effect
of
the
proposed
amendment
will
be
to
disincentivize
investment
in
these
closed
properties.
It
will
leave
underperforming
hotels,
as
is,
and,
in
some
cases,
leave
shuttered
properties
to
sit
becoming
eyesores
and
Public
Safety
problems.
I.
Ask
you
to
please
reconsider
the
proposed
amendment.
Carving
out
closed
properties
and
limiting
their
incentive.
Keeping
the
full
incentive
in
place
will
do
exactly
what
it
is
intended
to
do.
Turn
closed
and
underperforming
properties
into
tax
generating
properties.
A
D
G
C
F
I
just
wanted
to
comment
on
1s
for
the
new
design
for
the
pickleball
courts.
I
know,
there's
been
a
big
Community
desire
to
have
that
and
I
also
just
wanted
to
highlight
it's
another
measure,
J,
Project
and
I.
Think
we
need
to
understand
just
how
important
measure
J
is
in
bringing
these
projects
to
our
community.
So
thank
you.
A
V
V
D
Sorry,
I'm
kind
of
Mayor.
Thank
you
really
appreciate
your
work
on
this
I
just
wanted
to
pull
this
item
to
flag
for
the
public
that
we
changed
our
policy
and
we're
doing
these
lump
sum
payments
ahead
of
time
to
save
nearly
half
a
million
dollars
in
taxpayer
dollars.
So
I
just
wanted
to
applaud
staff
for
their
leadership
on
this,
and
with
that
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve.
A
N
A
F
W
F
W
They
have
been
as
we
are
operating
now,
which
has
been
closed
most
of
the
time
they
are
running
between
forty
to
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year.
We
also
did
some
research
to
see
what
it
was
when
it
was
more
operational
with
the
Follies.
In
there
the
Follies
paid
an
monthly
rent
of
twelve
thousand
dollars
plus
utilities,
but
the
utilities
were
in
their
name,
so
I,
don't
we
don't
have
a
number
of
what
the
utilities
were
when
it
was
fully
operational.
F
Okay,
I
mean
I,
I,
understand
the
city
trying
to
save
money,
but
I
think
all
of
this
restoration
has
been
done
by
private
funding
pretty
much
and
and
we
I
don't
know
that
we
ever
would
have
done
it
and
I
think
this
was
brought
up
in
public
comment.
The
benefits
to
our
community
are
exponential,
it's
not
just
in
whatever
having
the
theater
raised,
but
for
those
of
you
remember
when
the
Follies
were
here,
seeing
hundreds
of
people
come
out
to
our
Shops
and
and
restaurants
and
staying
in
hotels.
F
It's
significant
and
I
also
want
to
point
out
the
fact
that
they're
going
to
operate
in
the
summer,
which
is
kind
of
you
know
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
theaters
that
operate
in
the
summer.
I
know
the
McCallum
closes
for
a
lot
of
it.
A
lot
of
our
community
theaters
do
so.
This
is
a
real
benefit
to
to
our
community.
To
have
this
open
all
summer
and
I
don't
want
the
utilities
to
be
a
deterrent
to
having
more
summer
or
off-season
events
or
more
events
in
general.
D
You
thank
you
so
much
to
everyone
for
your
work
on
this
and
I've
supported
this
project.
Since
then,
council
member
J.R,
Roberts
LED
it
and
offered
to
continue
this
work
and
his
retirement
from
Council.
So
we
so
appreciate
the
community
leadership.
I
agree
with
the
mayor,
Pro
tems
comments
and
agree.
Absolutely
we
want
that
Economic,
Development
and
revenue
generation,
and
you
know
bringing
tourists
and
visitors
downtown
during
summer.
So
I
agree
that
I
think
we
should
cover
the
utilities.
D
D
I
think
Palm
Canyon
does
pay
utilities
and
also
pays
rent
and
so
I'd
just
love
to
see
us
align
what
we're
doing
for
the
plaza
potentially
with
Palm
Canyon
theater,
just
so
that
we
know
that
we're
investing
in
theater
and
arts
and
culture
throughout
Palm,
Springs
and
throughout
downtown,
and
then
I
just
have
one
question
if
I
can
on
the
term
of
the
lease.
So
it's
a
10-year
lease
that's
being
presented
and
I
was
just
hoping
for
information
about
why
that
term
and
and
what
work
was
done
behind
the
scenes
there.
G
Well,
just
to
clarify
it's
a
this
is
a
management
agreement,
we're
not
granting
them
a
leasehold
in
this
property.
It
sort
of
effectively
operates
very
similar
to
a
lease,
but
technically
it's
a
management
agreement
and
the
10
years
was
simply
reached
by
City
staff,
city
attorney's
office
and
working
with
the
foundation.
We
thought
you
know
it
should
be
long
enough
to
give
the
foundation
and
its
operators
enough
time
to
to
to
kind
of
prove
themselves,
but
not
so
long
that
the
city
was.
D
There's
one
term:
that's
in
Palm,
Canyon
theater's
lease
about
local
hire
so
that
leaf,
says
tenant
will
give
priority
to
Palm
Springs
residence
where
possible
and
retaining
actors.
Designers,
technical
staff,
skilled
non-skilled,
labor,
work,
qualifications
and
experience
are
equivalent.
I
know
that
the
operations
won't
necessarily
be
similar,
the
theater
operations
and
and
performances,
but
did
staff
consider
any
local
hire
in
this
agreement.
Since
we're
looking
at
that
in
a
number
of
other
areas
that
we're
doing
Economic
Development
work.
G
We
did
not
but
I'm
sure
that
the
foundation
we
would
be
willing
to
consider
that.
Obviously
many
of
the
acts
are
going
to
be
coming
from
out
of
town,
but
in
terms
of
the
you
know,
the
workers
who
are
working
on
site
on
a
day-to-day
basis
could
be
found
locally.
We
may
want
to
ask
the
applicant
or
the
foundation
whether
they're
would
be
amenable
to
that.
A
D
E
E
Yeah
Ian
is
the
public
comments.
I
cannot
stress
enough
that
everything
that
was
shared
in
public
comment
is
so
true.
You
know
this
is
going
to
be
an
incredible
tourism
attraction,
an
unbelievable
economic
engine
for
not
just
downtown,
and
it's
going
to
enhance
a
culture,
culture
and
arts
for
the
entire
city
and
I.
You
know
it's,
it's
been
a
wonderful
project
and
everybody
who's
been
working
on.
It
has
done
an
incredible
job.
E
Getting
it
to
this
point,
I
would
rather
see
us
make
a
an
annual
contribution
or
a
commitment
to
50
to
75
000
a
year,
which
would
in
fact
cover
the
utilities
and
and
include
the
the
true
cost
of
Utilities
in
the
operations
of
the
theater.
So
we
have
a
true
understanding
of
what
what
those
operations
are
and
that
the
general
and
operating
budget
includes
these
figures.
E
I,
don't
I
support
the
idea
of
us
paying,
but
what
we're
being
asked
to
approve
tonight
is
something
that
we
have
no
idea
what
the
cost
is
going
to
be,
so
it
could
be
75
000
a
year.
We
have
no
idea
that
we're
you
know
what
we're
being
asked
to
approve,
so
I
would
rather
see
us
make
the
commitment
to
the
theater
and
whether
it's
a
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
a
year
sponsorship
that
can
go
to
the
theater
to
help
cover
those
operating
costs.
E
But
that
would
be
a
much
better
way,
in
my
opinion,
to
support
the
theater's
work
than
to
approve
a
measure
tonight
that
doesn't
have
you
know
any
any
cap
on
what
that
I.
That
budget
amount
might
be-
and
you
know
I
think
when
mayor
Pro
tem
asked
about
the
city's
investment
in
the
project
and
compared
to
the
funds
that
the
committee
has
raised
is
is
very
small
without
without
question.
E
But
what
we
need
to
I
would
like
to
make
sure
we're.
Looking
at
over
10
years,
current
market
rate
has
got
to
be
at
least
two
and
a
half
million
dollars.
So
the
city
is
making.
You
know
we're
helping
out
the
operations
of
the
theater
in
a
different
way
where,
where
there
is
no
rent
being
charged
and
that
rent
over
two
years
could
easily
be
two
and
a
half
million
and
and
we're
agreeing
to
pay
the
maintenance
cost.
E
So
that
is
already
a
responsibility
that
the
city
is
going
to
carry
going
forward.
So
I
think
you
know
we're
we're
saying
we
want
to
help,
and
we
want
to
make
this
good
going
forward.
I
would
just
like
us
to
see
an
approve,
approve,
paying
the
utilities
or
amount
of
what
those
utilities
might
be
in
a
different
way,
so
the
utilities
can
be
showed
accurately
in
the
general
operating
budget
and
truly
reflect
the
cost
of
operations.
F
I
mean
I
I
think
we
will
make
sure
that
we
know
exactly
what
the
utility
costs
are
after
and
I
think.
The
concern
is
that
it
was
50
000
when
it's
closed,
so
it
might
be
more
and
again,
I
don't
want
to
do
anything
that
would
restrict
the
the
or
incentivize
the
theater
not
to
operate
when
you
know,
because
of
utilities
but
and
and
quite
honestly,
I
know
that
we
could
have
rented
this,
but
we
would
not
have
had
a
rentable
property
if
it
were
not
the
for
the
foundation.
I
mean
they
are.
F
Who
have
raised
this
money.
They
have
driven
the
whole
project
and,
quite
honestly,
the
city
did
not
do
that
and
we
don't
have
this
resources
to
do
it
so
I
mean
it
just
seems
to
me
that
paying
the
utilities
to
keep
a
non-profit
with
any
excess
funds
go
back
into
programming
that
benefits
the
community
just
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
X
X
That
would
give
clearly
an
opportunity
for
the
theater
to
get
up
and
operational
and
for
us
than
to
assess
whether
or
not
to
continue
with
that
kind
of
subsidy
at
a
future
date,
but
I
want
and
I'm
searching
for
what
that
right.
Time
frame
would
be
so
that
it
is
clearly
long
enough
that
the
theater
is
fully
operational
and
up
and
going
before.
We
have
to
revisit
this
decision.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
Middleton
I
agree
on
that
front.
I
do
think
that
we
want
to
see
if,
if
the
theater
can
be
self-sustaining,
and
that's
that
would
be
the
goals
that
we're
not
continuously
having
to
fund
this
in
order
to
keep
it
open.
I'd
love
to
see
us
move
forward
with
four
years.
I
think
that
could
be
plenty
of
time
to
see
what
the
programming
does.
F
One
more
thing:
if
there
is
anybody
else
who
wants
to
raise
14
million
to
renovate
a
city
property
that
they
don't
own
I,
would
consider
paying
the
utilities
for
them
too.
So
I
I,
don't
think
I
think
this
is
a
unique
situation.
I
I
will
go
with
a
lesser
amount
of
years
so
that
we
can
revisit
it,
but
only
because
I
don't
want
to
not
have
us
cover
it
now,
but
I
do
think
we
should
cover
the
utilities
for
the
term
of
this
10
years.
E
A
E
R
D
A
G
D
It
says
and
thank
you
to
Lauren
wolfer,
who
does
council
work
for
my
office
and
for
me,
I,
really
appreciate
her.
She
had
pulled
the
actual
language,
so
she
had
it
says:
tenant
will
give
priority
to
Plum
Springs
residents
where
possible
in
retaining,
and
then
it
lists
jobs
and
it
says,
and
skilled
and
non-skilled
labor
well.
Qualifications
and
experience
are
equivalent
to
those
of
other
non-falm
Springs
residents.
That's
what
the
Palm
Canyon
theaters
least
says.
A
L
L
G
Yes,
I
think
that's
the
the
general
standard
when
we're
talking
about
hiring
and
local
preferences
is
best
efforts
and
and
obviously
the
foundation
would
do
it
and
and
this
provision
would
apply
to
whatever
management
firm.
They
engage
that
management
firm
would
only
have
to
exercise
the
same
best
efforts.
Not
you
know,
exact
numbers.
A
Thank
you
me
too.
Thank
you
all
right,
all
very
much.
So
let's
have
a
motion
and
a
second
on
the
floor
with
moving
forward
with
the
agreement
and
the
city,
paying
the
utilities
for
four
years
and
then
reviewing
it,
but
prior
to
the
four
years
to
determine
whether
or
not
there
will
be
possible
for
their
funding
for
utilities,
and
we
will
move
forward
with
local
higher
preference,
as
stated
by
council,
member
holstage
and
attorney
Ballinger.
A
Y
Y
Good
evening
Madam
mayor
members
of
the
city
council,
Joel
Montalvo,
Engineering
Services.
The
item
before
you
today
is
the
annual
requirement
to
continue
the
levy
on
9th
Street
lighting
landscaping
and
Parkway
maintenance
districts
on
June
29th.
The
city
council
adopted
a
resolution
to
preliminary
approved
the
engineers
report
that
establishes
the
levees
and
also
declares
today's
public
hearing.
Y
The
assessment
fees
collected
are
used
to
pay
for
utilities
and
to
install
and
maintain
landscaping,
irrigation
and
lighting
within
the
districts.
It
is
important
to
note
the
assessment
districts
3,
the
Crosley
tract
6A
Fairport
development,
6C,
Park,
Sonora,
seven
Sunrise,
Norte
and
nine
flora.
Vista
were
established
with
a
maximum
assessment
that
does
not
increase
with
the
Consumer
Price
Index.
The
feast
collected
are
the
same
year
after
year
and
services
provided
to
those
districts
reflect
the
amount
of
fees
collected
plus
any
additional
Surplus
available.
Any
proposed
increased
in
Levy's
amount
would
require
special
election.
Y
The
total
costs
incurred
by
the
city
for
maintenance
of
public
improvements
in
these
Special
Districts
has
at
times
exceeded
the
revenue
generated
by
the
special
Assessments
in
each
district,
causing
a
deficit
in
those
cases,
services
are
reduced
accordingly
to
ensure
that
overall
costs
do
not
exceed
assessment
revenues
received.
Conversely,
when
excess
revenue
is
generated,
a
surplus,
the
city
reduces
the
maximum
amount
of
the
assessments
being
levied
to
the
district.
The
intend
is
to
maintain
an
adequate
Surplus
to
provide
the
required
Services.
There
are
specific
times
when
an
unexpected
event
occurs.
Y
Staff
uses
additional
built
up
Surplus
to
address
those
unexpected
events.
Steph
is
always
looking
to
balance
the
levees
with
actual
cost,
and
we
take
the
opportunity
to
reduce
levies
where
the
Surplus
and
revenue
exceeds
maintenance
of
effort.
This
concludes
my
report
and
I
would
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
A
R
A
A
A
A
A
Z
Thank
you
good
evening,
members
of
the
city
council
and
mayor
Gardner.
My
name
is
Victoria
Carpenter,
the
airport
Administration
manager
for
the
Palm
Springs
International
Airport
Harry
Barrett.
The
executive
director
is
also
available
on
Zoom
on
behalf
of
the
Palm
Springs
International
Airport
I'm
pleased
to
report
on
item
3A
regarding
the
award
of
the
construction
manager.
At-Risk
agreement,
also
known
as
a
Seymour
for
the
inbound
baggage
claim
project
for
an
initial
guarantee
maximum
price
not
to
exceed
29
million.
Z
The
existing
baggage
claim
area
in
the
northern
terminal
consists
of
three
u-shaped
flat
plated
carousels
rental
car
counters,
with
queuing
space
and
baggage
service
desk.
The
baggage
claim
area
often
becomes
congested
when
passengers
wait
in
the
car
rental
line
and
flow
over
into
the
baggage
claim
area
and
intersect
passenger
circulation.
Z
The
newly
hired
airport
project
manager
is
leading
the
baggage
claim
project
with
the
design,
firm
Gensler
and
the
master
plan
consultant
meeting
hunt
to
incorporate
the
design
elements
to
meet
the
capacity
demands
for
the
future
meeting.
Hunt
is
available
to
provide
design
the
design
firm
with
access
to
the
most
updated
information
from
the
master
plan
conducted
studies
to
help
with
the
design
of
the
baggage
claim
for
future
growth
and
terminal
space
needs.
Z
It's
also
important
to
note
that
we've
engaged
with
stakeholders,
which
includes
Airlines
rental
cars
and
Airport
operations,
just
to
name
a
few
to
help
with
the
assistance
of
the
baggage
claim
design
with
the
award
of
the
CMR.
The
contractor
will
be
responsible
for
the
pre-construction
and
Construction
Services
for
the
renovation
and
expansion
of
the
baggage
claim
area.
The
contractor
will
work
closely
with
the
design
company
to
ensure
the
baggage
claim
is
being
built
to
support
the
capacity
needs
of
the
airport.
Z
The
Palm
Springs
Airport
was
announced
to
receive
a
competitive
Grant
from
the
Federal
Aviation
Administration
of
approximately
5.7
million
dollars
from
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
law,
Airport
terminal
program
to
fund
a
portion
of
the
baggage
claim
project.
The
airport
intends
to
use
other
Federal
grant
funds
to
fund
the
project.
Z
F
Z
F
Z
Z
F
A
C
A
AA
The
project
will
have
60
units,
totaling
28,
one
bedrooms,
16
two
bedrooms
and
16
three
bedroom
units,
the
project
developer,
community
housing
opportunities,
Corporation
sent
a
letter
to
the
city
of
Palm,
Springs,
notifying
us
of
the
Monarch
project
like
so
many
others
has
been
negatively
impacted
by
significant
cost
overruns
chalk.
The
developer
has
already
secured
an
additional
funding
commitment
from
other
sources
in
the
amount
of
8.2
million.
E
E
AA
The
units
are
available
to
low
and
moderate
income
residents
who
financially
qualify
for
these
units,
and,
to
give
you
an
example,
15
of
the
units
are
at
30
percent
of
area
median
income,
50
13
of
the
units
are
at
50
percent
of
area
median
income
and
31
of
the
units
are
at
60
percent
of
area
median
income.
Let
me
just
go
on
and
read
off
what
the
incomes
are
for.
Households
of
four
people
for
each
of
those
at
30
percent.
The
household
income
is
thirty
thousand
dollars
at
50
percent.
AA
AA
F
F
AA
F
R
F
AA
They
will
remain
in
compliance
with
a
50
test,
but
to
increase
the
amount
of
tax
exempt
bonds,
they
would
have
to
show
an
ability
to
repay
those
bonds
and
that's
where
the
city's
money
comes
in
at
a
point
called
conversion
when
the
project
is
completed
already
and
then
the
city
helps
to
repay
the
bonds.
Yeah.
F
Okay,
so,
basically,
without
this
funding
today,
it
could
seriously
jeopardize
their
other
their
tax
issues
and
and
the
project
potentially
that's
correct.
Okay
and
I
noticed
in
the
in
the
numbers.
Their
soft
costs
have
gone
from
like
five
to
ten
million,
but
that
all
is
sort
of
in
line
with
what's
happening
with
other
development.
AA
AA
We
believe
their
contingency
that
was
requested
was
five
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars,
which
of
which
they
already
have
one
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
built
into
their
budget.
So
the
additional
400
000
is
what's
being
requested.
Now
that
amount
We
Believe
would
be
covered
by
assistance
from
other
agencies
that
the
city
would
help
the
developer.
Secure.
Okay,.
AA
F
AA
F
F
Thank
you
for
doing
all
the
work
that's
gone
into
this
and,
and
the
numbers
were
a
little
hard
to
read,
but
it
was
very,
it
was
very
informative
and
the
fact
that
this
actually
will
be
occupied
by
the
end
of
the
year
and
the
city
put
in
what
is
going
to
end
up
five
and
a
half
million
of
a
40
million
dollar
project
and
and
I've
seen
the
designs
and
they're
very
attractive.
This
is
in
District
Two,
so
I'm
happy
to
happy
that's
happening
and
I
would
support
this
request.
A
X
My
comments
will
be
short:
I
want
to
thank
the
city,
manager
and
staff
for
their
work
and
I,
wouldn't
particularly
thank
Greg
Rodriguez
for
his
work
and
for
the
cooperation
of
the
county
in
making
this
this
project
possible
to
be
completed.
It's
a
critical
project
to
be
completed.
I
think
we
will
all
be
proud
of
the
facilities
that
are
being
built.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you.
I
really
appreciate
everyone
bringing
this
project
forward.
It
shows
how
hard
it
is
to
develop,
affordable
housing
and
how
Nimble
we
have
to
be
to
fill
in
the
gaps
and
I'm
really
proud
of
our
city
council's
leadership
and
saying
that
we're
going
to
continue
to
fund
these
projects
and
make
sure
that
they
happen
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs,
which
wasn't
happening
10
or
15
years
ago.
In
terms
of
how
many
units
we
have
in
the
pipeline.
Thank
you
to
staff
for
being
really
Nimble
and
bringing
this
forward.
D
I
first
got
to
meet
with
chalk
I
think
in
2017.
They
were
interested
in
doing
a
project
here
and
we
sat
down
I
think
even
before
I
was
elected.
So
it's
really
amazing
to
see
our
very
first
project
that
we've
spearheaded
as
a
you
know:
Pro,
affordable
housing
community
come
to
fruition
and
be
built
and
will
be
completed.
That's
really
exciting,
so
I
strongly
support
allocating
These
funds
to
fill
the
Gap
and
think
chalk
and
their
whole
team
for
getting
this
done
and
housing.
D
Our
residents,
I
will
say
for
the
community
because
I
know
there's
a
strong
focus
on
home,
Springs
residents,
but
we
just
need
to
think
through
that.
So
many
people
have
already
been
pushed
out
of
Palm
Springs
people
who
work
here
their
kids
could
might
go
to
school
here,
but
they
might
not
live
here.
So
we
really
want
to
think
broadly
and
making
sure
that
people
who
work
in
Plum
Springs
can
afford
to
live
in
Palm
Springs
and
that's
the
work
that
we're
doing
tonight.
A
Thank
you,
there's
a
motion
to
approve
and
I
think
we're
all
clamoring
to
Second
mayor
Pro,
10
seconds
yeah.
Thank
you
so
much
to
staff
for
all
of
your
work
and
making
this
project
happening
and
for
figuring
out
different
ways
to
support
the
project
and
and
really
leverage
the
city
dollars.
I
think
that's
that's
been
really
critical
in
all
of
this.
We
want
to
be
able
to
have
as
many
of
these
types
of
projects
as
possible
in
our
city
and
we're
we're
certainly
moving
in
that
direction.
A
A
AB
Madam,
mayor
and
members
of
city
council
We
are
continuing
the
theme
of
affordable
housing
this
evening
by
bringing
forward
two
studies
that
have
been
recently
completed.
One
is
the
inclusionary
housing
feasibility
study
and
the
second
is
a
commercial
Nexus
linkage
fee
study.
As
you
may
recall,
we
brought
forward
last
fall
a
contract
with
economic
and
planning
systems
to
produce
the
studies
for
us
that
was
directed
by
Council
following
a
report
that
was
given
to
you
in
2021
relative
to
inclusionary
housing.
AB
With
the
completion
of
these
reports,
we
have
MS
Ashley
cannett
from
EPS
or
economic
and
planning
systems,
to
provide
the
PowerPoint
presentation
to
you
this
evening.
The
presentation
is
in
two
parts.
Essentially,
the
first
part
will
cover
the
commercial
linkage,
Nexus
fee
study
and
then,
secondly,
will
be
the
inclusionary
housing
feasibility
study,
Madam
mayor
as
a
point
of
procedure.
AB
If
you'd
like
to
stop
for
questions
after
Ms,
can
it
does
the
presentation
on
the
linkage
fee
that
may
be
appropriate
point
to
stop
ask
for
questions
on
the
linkage
fee
and
then
continue
on
with
the
second
part
of
the
presentation,
so
just
offering
that
up
as
perhaps
a
way
we
might
structure
the
discussion
this
evening
following
the
presentation
and
questions
of
our
consultant,
I
would
like
to
briefly
talk
about
our
next
steps
and
the
action
that's
being
requested
of
you
this
evening.
So
with
that
I
will
turn
it
over
to
Ashley
Kennett
Miss.
AC
AC
Okay,
thank
you
appreciate
your
patience
good
evening,
Madam
mayor
members
of
the
council
I'll
reintroduce
myself.
My
name
is
Ashley
cannett
I'm,
a
principal
with
economic
and
planning
systems,
and
I'd
also
like
to
recognize
my
colleague,
Chinmay
domlay,
who's
he's
in
webinar
land
and
he's
a
senior
associate
in
our
LA
office.
So
we're
very
pleased
to
be
before
you
tonight.
AC
I'm
gonna
start
with
just
a
little
bit
of
context
and
overview
and
then
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
share
some
of
the
feedback
we
receive
from
the
Planning.
Commission
I
did
hear
the
chair's
remarks
earlier
this
evening.
So
I'll
just
confirm
some
of
some
of
that.
We'll
then
get
into
some
of
the
specifics
about
the
2023
income
limits
and
the
Gap
analyzes
and
I'll
explain
all
of
that
before
diving
into
the
into
first
the
commercial
linkage
fee
and
then
the
inclusionary
housing
analysis.
AC
More
broadly,
we'll
share
some
of
those
findings
tonight,
and
we
also
spoke
with
local
industry
experts.
We
conducted
several
interviews
Facebook
with
Gallery
homes
and
Palm
Springs,
modern
homes,
Toll
Brothers,
asaro,
Builders
and
others
who
are
active
in
the
area
trying
to
vet
our
develop
development
cost
assumptions.
AC
We
were
also
before
the
Planning
Commission
last
April
for
a
study
session
and
then
again
in
June
to
hear
more
specific
feedback
and
the
slides
I'll
be
presenting
tonight
reflect
that
feedback
from
received
from
the
Planning
Commission
foreign.
So
from
the
Planning
Commission.
We
heard-
and
some
of
this
will
make
a
little
more
sense
as
we
get
into
the
detail,
but
with
respect
to
the
commercial
linkage
fees
I'll
be
presenting
several
options
or
ways
of
thinking
about
where
to
land.
AC
The
fees,
the
Planning
Commission
shared
a
preference
for
an
economic
development
lens
and
again
that'll
make
more
sense
in
a
little
bit.
They
also
noted
with
the
the
inclusionary
requirements
that
were
really
you
know
they.
They
understood
that
we're
really
trying
to
balance
the
Dual
objectives
of
both
achieving
Rena
on
one
hand
and
advancing
the
supply
of
affordable
housing
while
ensuring
that
market
rate
development
remains
feasible.
But
within
that
there's
a
an
appetite,
an
interest
in
making
sure
that
we
were
doing
what
we
can
to
address
the
very
low
income
cohort.
AC
The
Planning
Commission
also
wanted
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
were
looking
at
comparison
cities,
we
were
focused
on
cities
that
are
like
Palm
Springs
in
some
way,
including
you
know,
perhaps
by
size
or
but
cities
with
a
tourism-based
focused.
There
were
other
questions
that
came
up
as
well,
some
of
which
we
addressed
in
this
presentation
and
others
which
may
be
better
suited
for
staff
later.
Potentially,
one
is
how
much
development
on
whether
or
not
development
on
tribal
land
is
affected,
how
much
development
potential.
AC
There
were
some
questions
about
how
much
fee
Revenue
this
might
generate
and
we'll
we'll
touch
on
that
later
and
then
a
concern.
You
know
role
development
go
elsewhere,
foreign,
so
here,
let's
start
with
some
baseline
technical
information
and
I
actually
heard
this
mentioned
in
the
item
before.
But
let's
start
with
the
income
limits.
AC
So
each
year
the
State
Department
of
Housing
and
Community
Development
publishes
income
limits
for
each
county
in
California
and
when
we
started
the
study
we
were
working,
we
were
working
with
2022
income
limits,
but
they
increased
in
June
and
we
updated
our
analysis.
I
say
that
just
to
share
with
you
and
assure
you
that
all
of
the
numbers
and
the
technical
work
do
reflect
the
latest
most
recent
2023
income
limits.
AC
AC
We
then
look
at
how
much
rent
income
restricted
households
can
afford
based
on
the
2023
income
limits,
so
the
amount
of
rent
that
can
be
paid
is
translated
to
a
value.
We
take
that
capitalized
value
of
the
stream
of
rental
income
and
the
rent
that
a
very
low
income
household.
All
the
way
to
the
left
can
afford
translates
to
a
value
of
close
to
forty
thousand
dollars.
AC
AC
So,
with
respect
to
the
commercial
linkage
fee,
commercial
linkage,
fees
are
charged
in
dozens
of
cities
and
counties
throughout
the
state,
including
in
nearby
Palm
Desert.
There
are
several
in
adjacent
San,
Bernardino
and
Los
Angeles
counties
and
the
revenue
that
is
collected
well,
I
should
say
it's
a
it's
a
one-time
charge
on
new
non-residential
development,
so
it's
charged
at
the
time
the
new
development
occurs
and
the
revenue
that's
collected
is
used
to
help
support,
affordable
housing
Supply.
So
it
can
be
used
as
a
direct
subsidy.
AC
It
can
be
used
to
help
acquire
a
land.
It
can
be
used
to
acquire
and
rehabilitate
rehabilitate
and
convert
market
rate
units
to
deed
restricted
units
can
serve
as
a
local
match
to
improve
competitiveness
for
tax
credit
projects.
The
Monarch
project
you
just
approved,
for
example,
a
revenue
from
a
commercial
leakage
fee,
could
go
towards
funding
more
of
those
types
of
projects.
AC
So
I
just
want
to
stay
on
this
slide
for
just
a
moment
to
walk
through
the
Nexus
logic.
So,
in
order
to
adopt
a
commercial
linkage
fee,
there
needs
to
be
a
Nexus
study
and
the
Nexus
study
is
intended
to
establish
a
rational
Nexus,
a
describe
a
logic
that
determines
how
we
get
to
the
maximum
nexus-based
fees.
AC
AC
We
think
about
how
many
units
of
employee
housing
are
needed.
Not
every
employee
needs
their
own
housing,
they're,
often
multiple
earners
per
household,
and
then
we
think
about
the
gap
between
the
Housing
Development
costs
and
the
workforce
purchasing
power.
That
was
the
the
graph
that
I
showed
previously
and
then
what
commercial
linkage
fee
will
allow
us
to
fill
that
Gap.
What
fee
on
new
market
or
on
new
commercial
development
allows
us
to
address
the
needs
of
the
workforce.
AC
So
here's
how
we
go
about
answering
those
questions.
I
know
this
is
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
numbers,
but
we'll
just
focus
on
lodging
to
have
one
example
to
talk
through
so
first.
Let's
imagine
a
hypothetical
development
of
a
hundred
thousand
square
feet.
There's
nothing
magic
about
that.
It's
just
to
keep
the
math
easy
and
we
normalize
later
in
the
process.
So
using
typical
employment
density
assumptions.
We
calculate
that
a
hundred
thousand
square
feet
of
lodging
will
support
about
200
employees
assuming
around
500
square
feet
per
employee
and
of
those
200
employees.
AC
We
discount
to
account
for
the
fact
that
some
might
be
a
little
bit
younger
and
that
sort
of
16
to
19
year
old
age
range
and
they
may
not
yet
be
forming
their
own
households.
It's
just
a
modest
adjustment
that
we
want
to
acknowledge
it.
We
then
account
for
multiple
earners
per
working
household
and
in
Palm
Springs.
That
number
is
about
1.3
earners
per
household,
so
that
adjustment
brings
our
total
number
of
households
stemming
from
that
initial
100
000
square
feet
of
development
to
146
households,
and
then
we
want
to
know
okay.
AC
If
we've
got
these
146
households,
how
do
those
households
fall
across
the
income
cohorts?
And
while
we
don't
have
a
slide
demonstrating
the
math
I'll
say
that
we
use
publicly
available
wage
and
occupation
data
to
array
every
type
of
occupation
within
each
land
use
category,
and
from
that
we
can
calculate
how
many
of
those
146
46
households
would
be
considered
very
low
or
low
or
moderate.
AC
Then
the
question
becomes
well.
How
do
we
translate
that
to
a
fee?
So
I'll
ask
you
to
think
back
to
the
Gap
analysis
where
we
showed
the
subsidies
at
each
income
cohort
and
the
number
of
households
in
each
income.
Category
is
multiplied
by
the
corresponding
get
affordability
Gap
to
arrive
at
the
total
required
subsidy,
and
then
the
total
required
subsidy
is
divided
by
that
100
000
square
feet
square
foot
prototype
to
calculate
the
maximum
fee
per
square
foot.
AC
We
do
one
more
little
adjustment,
it's
an
adjustment
of
about
17
to
account
for
those
workers
who
work
in
Palm,
Springs
and
also
live
in
Palm
Springs.
It
isn't
a
required
adjustment
that
we
do
it
just
to
make
sure
that
there
is
no
double
Counting
so
that
one
hundred
thousand
square
feet
of
lodging
that
we
started
with
in
order
to
mitigate
the
demand
for
those
employees
who
need
affordable
housing.
AC
The
fee,
the
maximum
fee
per
square
foot
would
be
408
dollars
per
square
foot
at
this
will
stop
and
acknowledge
those
fees
are
very
high.
You
probably
never
charge
fees
at
those
levels
because
there
are
Economic,
Development
trade-offs,
you'll
be
thinking
about,
and
the
goal
is
not
to
stop
the
development
of
course.
AC
So
Palm
deserts
fees
they're
over
there
on
the
left
and
I
won't
go
through
all
of
these,
but
they
really
vary
from
33
cents.
A
square
foot
for
industrial
to
a
dollar
a
square
foot
for
retail,
but
I
do
I.
Think
it's
important
to
note
that
this
fee
program
was
established
many
many
years
ago
and
has
not
been
updated
for
some
time.
AC
Fontana.
We
see
the
fees
somewhat
higher.
They
also
have
some
other
unique
categories
for
some
other
uses.
There
are
some
cities
like
Glendale
or
West
Hollywood
they've
set
a
fee.
That's
constant
across
the
land
use
categories.
I
just
want
to
draw
your
attention
to
that
and
Los
Angeles
by
the
way
it's
not
on
here
they
do
a
variation
of
that.
Their
leakage
fee
varies
from
about
350
to
close
to
six
dollars
a
square
foot,
but
it
varies
by
market
area
of
the
city,
not
by
land
use
category.
AC
Let's
see
what
else
should
I
call
out
here,
I
think
I'll
also
just
note
in
Palo
Alto.
We
include
that
it's
you
know,
of
course,
in
Northern
California,
but
we
include
it
just
to
demonstrate
that
there
are
jurisdictions
that
charge
much
higher
fees.
So
the
listing
here
is
intended
to
be
reflective
of
the
variation
that
we
see
across
the
state.
AC
Foreign,
so
on
this
slide
we're
presenting
some
potential
approaches
to
studying
fees
just
to
prompt
discussion.
So
we've
got
our
land
use
categories
on
the
left,
the
maximum
or
the
adjusted
maximum
fees
for
context
and
option.
One
is
intended
to
set
fees
fairly
consistently
across
the
land
use
categories,
recognizing
that
there
are
some.
You
know
real
measurable
differences
between
industrial
and
warehousing
and
the
other
categories.
AC
AC
The
question
came
up
also
with
respect
to
the
commercial
linkage
fee.
Well,
how
much
revenue
are
we
talking
about?
How
much
might
this
generate?
And
while
we
don't
know
the
scale
of
development
that
you'll
see
in
the
coming
years,
we
did
a
little
bit
of
analysis
just
kind
of
taking
a
look
backwards.
AC
So
we
say
you
know
if
new
development,
new
commercial
development
continues
at
the
same
rate,
if
all
that
development
is
net
new
and
if
all
development
were
charged,
the
same
rate
just
to
keep
the
task
easy,
a
linkage
fee
at
three
dollars,
a
square
foot
would
generate
about
327
thousand
dollars
a
year
on
average
a
leakage
fee
at
six
dollars.
A
square
foot
would
generate
twice
about
654
000
a
year
on
average.
AC
So
that's
intended
to
just
provide
a
little
bit
of
context
about
order
of
magnitude,
and
so
at
the
end
of
the
presentation,
or
sooner,
if
you'd
prefer
one
of
the
things
we're
curious
to
hear
your
feedback
on.
Is
you
know
in
the
context,
in
the
context
of
the
city's
Arena
and
understanding
the
potential
uses
of
commercial
leakage
fee
Revenue,
if
you're
interested
in
a
commercial
leakage
fee
program?
What
what
approach
to
studying
fee
revenues
is
most
appropriate
for
Palm
Springs.
AB
F
AC
F
D
So
could
you
just
speak
a
little
bit
about
if
you
did
analyze
like
what
real
development
is
happening
in
Palm
Springs
for
different
land
uses?
You
know
which
ones
might
be
able
to
sustain
for
the
economic
development
theory.
If
you
will
category
that
you
showed
earlier,
if
we
can
go
to
slides
back,
I
think
it
was,
and
we
can
look
at
that.
It
had.
D
For
example,
saying
you
know:
hotels
provide
perhaps
more
Economic
Development
to
the
city
like
tot,
and
so
we
might
reduce
it
to
a
lower
fee,
for
my
thought
actually
would
be
sort
of
the
opposite.
Like
we
know,
hotels
can
be
developed
in
Palm
Springs,
that's
not
going
away,
and
so
perhaps
we
would
put
a
higher
fee.
D
Knowing
you
know,
we're
never
going
to
get
to
the
full
subsidy
that
it
costs
to
house
folks
who
are
going
to
be
working
in
that
hotel,
but
maybe
it
could
sustain
a
higher
fee
versus
you
know
we're
not
seeing
a
lot
of
industrial
or
office,
but
that
is
a
need
and
so
we're
going
to
reduce
the
fee
more
like
what
needs
subsidies
and
what
doesn't,
if
that
to
pencil.
If
that
can
make
sense-
and
you
can
reply
to
that-
sorry
I
have
a
little
baby
talking
and
crying
in
the
background.
AC
Yeah,
no,
that
that
makes
sense,
I,
I
under
I,
understand
and
the
the
perspective
that
you
articulate
is
another
option
to
consider.
One
of
the
reasons
we
look
at
commercial
leakage,
fees
in
other
cities,
as
it
is
as
a
proxy
for
what
level
of
fee
new
development
can
can
handle,
and
so,
while
we
didn't
really
do
a
pro
forma
analysis
on
the
on
the
new
development
in
the
way
we
do
for
inclusionary.
AC
For
example,
these
fees,
the
the
likes
of
which
were
sort
of
showing
here,
tend
to
be
very,
very
modest
in
the
context
of
all
of
the
other
impact
fees.
If
there
are
any
and
or
Planning
and
Building
fees
and
tend
not
to
be,
you
know,
tend
not
to
be
what
precludes
or
hampers
new
commercial
development.
D
AC
We
used
a
site
called,
grounded
Solutions,
which
does
a
pretty
good
job,
summarizing
commercial
linkage
fees
in
other
cities
and
did
our
best
to
pull
together
those
that
are
closest
to
Palm
Springs.
But
then
we
also
wanted
to
show
a
little
bit
variety
across
the
states.
So
the
closest
are
you
know:
Palm
Desert,
Fontana
Glendale.
We
start
to
get
a
little
bit
further
away.
At
that
point,.
D
AC
Okay,
thank
you
so
Switching
gears
here,
inclusionary
housing
requires
that
developers
of
market
rate
residential
housing
set
aside
some
percentage,
typically
five
to
twenty
percent,
but
most
commonly
10
to
15
of
the
market
rate
units
to
be
affordable
to
lower
and
moderate
income.
Households
and
jurisdictions
with
inclusionary
housing
programs
often
often
provide
alternative
or
they
provide
for
alternative
means
of
compliance
in
their
ordinances
and
in
fact
the
law
requires
it
with
ab1505.
AC
That
became
a
requirement,
so
one
common
alternative
means
of
compliance
is
an
in-lu
fee
and
that
would
just
be
a
fee
that
developers
pay
in
lieu
of
instead
of
providing
the
affordable
units
on
site.
So
when
crafting
inclusionary
programs,
we're
balancing
two
objectives
and
the
Planning
Commission
wrestled
with
this
as
well
we're
trying
to
on
one
hand,
achieve
more
affordable
housing
in
the
city
and
housing,
affordable
housing
that
occurs.
You
know,
as
market
rate
development
is
occurring,
distributed
across
the
city
where
market
rate
development
is
occurring
and
then
within
projects
as
well.
AC
AC
You
don't
get
the
affordable,
inclusionary
units
so
right
off
the
bat.
Let's
start
with
a
review
of
some
other
inclusionary
programs
across
the
state
and
first
I'll
just
note
that
there
are
no
inclusionary
programs
in
the
Coachella
Valley,
but
there
are
a
couple
in
the
county
and
although
most
of
the
jurisdictions
included
here
have
in
Luffy's
as
an
alternative
means
of
complying
with
the
inclusionary
requirements,
many
fees
are
really
difficult
to
locate
and
they're,
not
easy
to
calculate
so.
We've
shown
here
the
ones
that
are
available.
AC
AC
That's
unlike
Temecula
they've
got
a
20
inclusionary
requirement
all
moderate
by
the
way
I'm
on
the
rental
slide
and
programs
vary
between
rental
and
ownership,
so
I'm
just
focusing
on
rental
programs
right
here:
Encinitas,
that's
it
up,
so
that
you
can
pick
one
inclusionary
requirement
if
you're
targeting
low
and
one
inclusion
a
requirement
if
you're
targeting
very
low
and
I
just
feel
misspoke
about
Temecula.
Sorry,
it's
20
all
targeted
at
low.
AC
AC
AC
On
the
ownership
side
of
things,
you
see
some
similarities
here
and
also
I'll
also
note
that
in
Santa
Barbara
they
have
an
inclusion
requirement
on
ownership,
but
the
way
that
they
set
up
their
and
Lou
fee
is
that
it's
the
monetary
difference
between
estimating
the
production
costs
of
a
two-bedroom
condo
and
then
the
price
that
would
be
affordable.
So
they
get
straight
to
the
subsidy
piece
of
it
Pasadena
again:
20
Santa,
Cruz,
20,
Monarch,
Monterey,
20
and
again
you've
got
Jurupa
Valley.
AC
AC
So
this
is
just
intended
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
context
about
where
other
jurisdictions
are
this
slide.
You
know
what
is
development
feasibility
is
included
as
a
reminder
that
we
we
really
approach
the
inclusionary
recommendations
from
a
place
of
feasibility,
and
by
that
we
mean
really
three
things
in
our.
You
know
to
our
thinking
of
feasible
development
provides
a
sufficient
return
on
an
investment
such
that
a
developer
is
wanting
to
proceed
most.
AC
AC
AC
So
in
our
analysis,
we
prepared
a
range
of
development
proformas
that
we
use
to
test
industry
standard
return
metrics
and
they
vary
for
rental
and
ownership
developments.
So,
on
the
ownership
side
of
things,
we
defined
a
profit
metric
as
a
15
profit,
calculated
as
a
percentage
of
development
costs.
There
are
some
developers
who
would
require
a
higher
higher
profit
profit
return.
There
are
others
who
will
accept
less,
but
most
most
developers
would
say
of
market
rate
ownership.
AC
Housing
would
say
that
a
15
profit
margin
would
incentivize
them
to
move
forward
on
the
rental
side
of
things.
It's
an
investment
development
right.
The
revenue
is
an
annual
revenue
in
the
form
of
in
the
form
of
rents,
and
so
there
we
identify
yield
on
cost
as
the
profit
as
the
profit
metric,
and
our
feasibility
threshold
is
defined
as
5.5
percent.
AC
That's
all
the
way
over
to
the
right,
and
with
that
fee
level
we
can
work
backwards
and
we
can
achieve
an
overall
inclusionary
requirement
of
around
10
split
between
low
and
moderate,
so
we're
able
to
blend
the
low
and
moderate
income
cohorts
in
option
two.
We
wanted
to
test
a
lower
in
Lou
fee
of
around
fifteen
dollars,
a
square
foot,
and
with
that
fee
level
we
can
still
achieve
a
10
requirement,
but
we
can't
go
as
deep
with
our
affordability.
We
can
only
target
moderate
there
and
in
option
three.
AC
AC
So
some
of
what
was
guiding
us
here
was
that
we
were
looking
to
Target
in
Luffy's
along
the
lines
of
what
we
see
in
other
jurisdictions,
and
then
we
were
wanting
to
blend
multiple
income
levels.
That
was
one
of
the
things
we
were
trying
to
achieve
here
and
I'll.
Just
note,
you
see
zeros
kind
of
across
the
board.
In
the
very
low
column,
it
can
be
very
difficult
to
qualify
very
low
income
households
for
ownership
housing.
In
addition
to
the
mortgage
payment.
AC
AC
This
is
another
lens
on
the
feasibility
analysis,
so
still
in
our
ownership
World
here
we've
demonstrated
or
we've
drawn
that
profit
we've
drawn,
that
line
at
the
15
profit
margin
threshold
and
the
vertical
bar
on
the
left
is
the
profit
margin
or
along
the
left.
We
are
showing
the
profit
margin
and
we
show
what
is
the
return
if
there
is
no
inclusionary
requirement
at
all,
we
also
solve
for
what
is
the
maximum
fee.
AC
AC
I,
do
here
have
an
example
here
of
how
that
would
be
implemented.
So
if
you
imagine
a
25
unit
market
rate
project,
all
single
family
detached
with
each
unit
being
about
2
000
square
feet
per
unit,
the
on-site
inclusionary
requirement
is
10
split
low,
moderate,
with
a
20
per
square
foot
in
Luffy.
So
if
the
developer
is
building
on
site,
they
would
be
required
to
provide
2.5,
affordable
units
one
and
a
quarter
moderate
one
and
a
quarter
low.
AC
The
overall
inclusionary
requirement
results
in
two
units
on
site,
so
we
would
give
one
to
moderate
one
to
low
and
then
that
fractional
unit
that
0.5
it
can
Round
Up
to
3.5,
0.5
or
higher
if
it's
below,
if
you
end
up
with
a
fraction
that
is
below
0.5,
there's
a
fee
that
can
be
paid
to
sort
of
fee
to
fee.
Out
of
that,
you
don't
fee
out,
but
it's
a
fee
in
lieu
of
the
fraction,
the
in-lu
fee
at
twenty
dollars,
a
square
foot.
AC
Three:
the
inclusionary
requirement
increases
to
15
and,
while
we're
still
able
to
capture
some
very
low,
it's
offset
by
bringing
additional
moderate
income
households
into
the
mix
and
they're
the
fee.
Excuse
me
is
twenty
dollars,
I
swear,
but
so
here
option
one
was
the
planning
commission's
preferred
option?
You'll
see
that,
with
the
rental
program,
we
are
wanting
very
much,
if
possible,
to
Target
some
of
those
very
low
income.
AC
So
with
respect
to
the
rental
inclusionary
program
here,
the
on-site
requirement
would
be
10
total
with
half
of
that
going
to
moderate
and
the
remaining
half
split
between
very
low
and
low.
So
what
that
means,
if
a
developer
proceeds
with
the
on-site
build,
is
2.5,
affordable
units
overall
one
and
a
quarter-
moderate
0.625,
low,
0.625,
very
low,
so
here's
what
we
would
do
is
we
would
the
on-site
requirement
results
in
two
full
units?
AC
We
would
give
one
to
moderate
and
then
one
to
low,
and
then
the
fraction
can
pay
the
affordable
housing
fee.
They
can
round
up
and
build
a
three
on
site
or
they
can
pay
the
affordable
housing
fee.
Here.
The
assumption
is
that
the
units,
our
rental
units,
are
somewhat
smaller
a
thousand
square
feet.
The
fee
is
fifteen
dollars,
a
square
foot,
so
40
000
per.
AC
AC
So
in
that
context,
what
level
of
inclusionary
housing
is
most
appropriate
in
Palm
Springs,
distinguishing
between
rental
and
for
sale?
And
as
we
transition
to
discussion,
we
can
talk
about
some
of
those
items.
First,
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
Deputy
City,
the
deputy
city
manager,
to
discuss
next
steps.
AB
Thank
you
Ashley
Madam,
mayor
and
council
members.
Let
me
just
talk
briefly
about
what
our
next
steps
might
be.
We're
receiving
or
accepting
the
reports
this
evening.
We're
not
asking
you
to
take
any
action
other
than
provide
direction
to
staff,
so
we're
not
adopting
an
inclusionary
ordinance
tonight.
We're
not
adopting
a
commercial
Nexus
fee,
we're
only
looking
to
you
for
Direction.
AB
Should
you
wish
to
proceed
with
either
or
both?
What
we
would
need
to
do
is
to
develop
a
either
an
ordinance
in
the
case
of
the
inclusionary
or
a
resolution
in
the
case
of
the
commercial
Nexus
fee.
As
part
of
that,
we
would
establish
the
program
guidelines.
We
would
look
at
the
appropriate
percentage
in
the
case
of
inclusionary.
We
would
look
at
the
appropriate
fees
based
on
the
different
commercial
uses
for
the
commercial
Nexus
study.
AB
The
inclusionary
housing
program
and
ordinance
would
go
before
the
Planning
Commission,
as
it
would
be
an
amendment
to
our
zoning
code.
They
would
offer
their
input
and
then
we
would
bring
that
item
back
to
you
for
the
commercial
Nexus
fee.
We
typically
adopt
impact
fees
by
resolution.
We
would
propose
any
program
requirements
associated
with
that
in
the
resolution
itself.
AB
So
we're
not
asking
you
this
evening:
should
you
choose
to
move
forward,
a
specific
percentage
that
you
want
to
look
at,
but
rather
we'd
like
to
take
your
general
input
that
if
you
do
request
us
to
come
back
that
way,
we
have
the
basic
parameters
that
you'd
like
us
to
look
at
in
terms
of
coming
back
to
you
so
with
that.
That
concludes
our
presentation
to
you
this
evening.
Both
Ashley
and
I
are
available
for
questions.
If
you
have
any
additional
questions
and
we
are
looking
for
your
direction
and
input
at
this
point.
A
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
the
presentation
really
appreciate
you
breaking
it
down,
and
hopefully
the
public
was
able
to
follow
that
I
know
it's
very
complicated,
but
I
appreciate
the
work
that
you
did
to
to
break
it
down.
Simply
so,
thank
you
for
that.
My
question
really
is
to
staff,
so
if
Council
does
want
to
move
forward
with
either
or
both
what
would
be
the
public
process
that
would
happen,
I
know
in
the
staff
report
it
talks
about.
You
know
a
Zone
chain,
you
know
it
would.
D
Change
to
our
zoning
code
would
go
to
Planning
Commission,
but
what
I'm
really
interested
in
is
the
Outreach
to
stakeholder,
so
I'm
interested
in
moving
forward
on
both
of
these
items
with
sufficient
stakeholder
input
so
that
we
know
we're
getting
the
result
we
want,
which
is
more
housing
being
developed
at
all
income
levels
and
you
know
being
able
to
have
a
revenue
source
for
our
housing
work
that
we
have
to
do
with
affordable
housing
develop
first
to
meet
our
Arena
number.
So
could
you
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
work?
D
That's
been
done
with
stakeholders
to
date,
I
see
the
dvba
submitted
a
letter.
I
know
that
the
consultant
Ashley,
you
said
you
spoke
to
some
housing
developers
in
the
Coachella
Valley.
But
could
we
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
other
public
process
and
stakeholder
Outreach
and
input
needs
to
occur
before
we
were
to
bring
something
forward
for
a
vote.
AB
So
let
me
talk
a
little
bit
about
process
for
the
inclusionary
housing
coming
back
as
an
ordinance,
obviously,
for
public
input,
we
would
have
public
hearings
at
both
the
Planning
Commission
and
city
council.
That
would
be
the
basic
requirement
in
terms
of
stakeholder
input,
as
Ashley
has
already
indicated,
they
interviewed
developers
here
in
the
area.
They
also
interviewed,
affordable
housing
developers.
We
put
out
the
word
to
housing
Advocates
to
get
their
input
on
the
studies
as
we
were
developing.
AB
What
we
would
probably
want
to
do
is
go
back
to
those
groups
again
to
get
their
input
on
a
proposal,
so
they
would
be
able
to
look
at
what
has
specifically
being
proposed
and
provide
their
input
with
the
studies.
Obviously,
there
were
a
variety
of
options
that
were
presented.
So
it's
a
little
bit
difficult
to
to
finalize
your
comments.
Looking
at
a
number
of
different
options
moving
forward,
should
we
do
that
we
would
present
specific
proposal
which
they
would
then
be
able
to
provide
input
on.
D
Thank
you
and
I
do
think
these
conversations
aren't
ones
that
can
happen
in
public
comment,
two-minute
portions
and
a
public
hearing,
and
it
really
needs
to
be
a
Roundtable
discussion
about
how
this
will
impact
development.
You
know
how
this
will
increase
costs.
What
will
be
passed
to
the
consumers
which
won't
what
the
market
can
bear?
D
So
actually,
maybe
you
could
ex
just
share
more
in-depth
feedback
from
what
you
heard
from
those
stakeholders,
so
we
can
be
more
aware
of
those
because
Pride
primary,
my
primary
concern
is
what
the
market
can
bear
and
what
will
pencil
right
and
so
I
see
that
it
sounds
like
a
lot
of
your
analysis.
What
you're
presenting
to
us
today
seems
I
know
it's
based
on
a
lot
of
input
and
a
lot
of
facts
that
you
collected,
but
it
also
seems
General.
Palm
Springs
is
very
unique
and
so
I
want
to
make
sure
as
applied.
D
AC
Your
focus
is
our
Focus
as
well.
Right,
like
is
this
Can
new
market
rate
residential
development
absorb
an
inclusionary
requirement,
and
we
want
that,
of
course,
to
be
tailored
to
poem
screens,
and
so
what
we
do
is
we
identify
types
of
with
respect
to
the
inclusionary
housing
study.
We
identify
the
type
of
new
residential
development.
The
city
is
expecting
to
see
in
the
next
several
years
decades.
What
have
you?
We
worked
with
your
city
with
planning
staff
to
really
understand
a
prototype.
You
know
what
is
a
typical
single
family
home.
AC
What
is
a
typical
multi-family
apartment?
We
do
have
to
acknowledge
that
every
development
is
different.
Every
development
brings
its
own
set
of
circumstances
and
unique
characteristics,
its
own
funding,
and
you
know,
equity
and
debt
profiles
and
whatnot.
But
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
reflect
typical.
You
know
the
average
and
and
typical
so
that
we
are
putting
together
a
program
that
is
as
widely
applicable
as
possible
and
we're
not
zeroing
in
on
just
one
certain
type
of
development.
AC
So
we're
very
thoughtful
about
that,
as
we
think
about
our
prototypes
and
what
we,
the
Outreach
of
our
market
rate
developers,
was
to
really
vet
development
costs
and
understand.
You
know
if
you
think
about
land
and
hard
costs
and
soft
costs
and
fees
Etc,
you
know
how
much
does
it
really
cost
to
develop
a
unit
of
single-family
housing
or
multi-family
housing,
and
so
that's
really
where
we
spent
most
of
our
focus
with
the
market
rate
Developers
in
speaking
with
the
affordable
housing
developers.
AC
You
know,
one
of
the
things
we
were
trying
to
understand
is
well.
When
cities
have
fee
Revenue
available,
whether
it's
through
an
inclusionary
program
or
commercial
linkage
fee,
you
know
how
can
it
be
brought
to
bear?
How
can
it
be
leveraged
to
benefit
that
affordable
housing,
development
and
again,
the
Monarch
project
is
a
good
example
of
how
that
Revenue
can
be
used.
AC
So
I
will
say
that
we
did
speak
with
a
variety
of
developers,
including
representatives
from
the
Builders
Association.
It's
very
you
know,
as
a
developer
or
a
builder,
it's
hard
to
get
excited
about
a
new
requirement
on
market
rate
development,
but
I
think
when
you
also
talk
to
the
affordable
housing
developers,
and
you
see
how
beneficial
that
Revenue
can
be
there's
some
balance
balance
there.
D
Thanks
I
hope,
yeah
I
think
I
was
just
pondering
like.
There
are
probably
very
objective
measures
to
lead
a
developer
to
pursue
a
project,
and
then
there
are
more
subjective
measures
of
where
they
want
to
develop.
We
often
hear
like
the
culture
of
the
city
and
knowing,
if
it's
business
friendly,
knowing
how
long
it'll
take
those
sorts
of
more
subjective
factors
right
which
aren't
like
the
soft.
D
F
Yeah
so
Ashley.
Thank
you
very
much
for
this
proof.
It
was
terrific,
very
a
lot
of
numbers,
a
lot
of
facts,
but
really
well
laid
out
a
couple
questions.
Do
we
have
we
done
any
studies
about
what
happened
in
other
cities
when
they
added
either
a
commercial
linkage
fee
or
a
inclusionary
policy
to
their
development.
AC
AC
I
think.
In
most
cases
these
programs
are
being
adopted
in
cities
where
there
is
a
a
steady,
a
steady
pace
of
new
development
already
underway
and
where
there
is
a
lot
of
demand
for
the
product,
type
and
I
think
that's
true
in
Palm
Springs
in
Palm
Springs
as
well.
Sometimes
there
are
cities
that
read
about
what
the
adoption
of
a
new
program
will
do
to
new
development
might
choose
to
implement
it
in
a
more
phased
sort
of
way,
and
so
I
have
seen
that
happen.
You
know
where
cities
say
we
want.
AC
We
want
a
new
inclusionary
program,
we're
worried
about
just
introducing
it
overnight
and
we'd
like
to
phase
it
in
and
I've
seen
that
with
commercial
linkage.
Fee
programs
too,
so
I
know
that
there
are
this
is
both
programs
are.
There
are
examples
of
both
programs
being
very
successful
in
many
jurisdictions
across
the
state.
It
also
happens,
there's
a
city
in
the
Gabriel
or
yeah
jurisdiction
in
the
Gabriel
City
sub-region,
for
example,
in
Los,
Angeles
County,
that
adopted
program
and,
after
a
short
bit
of
time,
ended
up.
AC
F
Now
and
I
appreciated
it,
and-
and
you
know,
we've
had
a
lot
of
development
in
the
last
few
years.
It's
it's
too
bad.
They
didn't
all
have
inclusionary
housing
in
them,
but
but
I
do
want
to
just
you
know:
I
support
both
of
these
and
I
want
to
move
forward.
I
want
to
you
know:
I
just
found
a
couple
things
in
the
report
very
interesting
and
a
median
household
income
is
61
500,
which
is
basically
our
median
income.
Is
a
low
income
household
in
Palm
Springs.
F
So
this
is
the
a
large
part
of
our
population
that
we're
looking
at
and
with
a
median
household
price
over
a
million.
That
means
most
people
can't
afford
a
house
and
I
also
want
to
point
out
a
couple
of
things
just
in
terms
because
we
are
a
tourist
business.
A
tourist
tourism
economy
and
I
saw
on
here.
F
93
of
retail
restaurant
service
workers
are
low
income
and
ninety
percent
of
lodging,
so
there
is
sort
of
a
there
sort
of
is
a
reason
that
that
we
want
to
have
this
kind
of
Housing
and
what
I've
heard
now
in
the
business
Community
is
that
they're
having
trouble
getting
workers,
because
other
communities
have
new
development
and
they
can
go
work
there.
So
this
is
not
just
to
punish
our
developers,
but
actually
to
help,
try
and
get
them
a
Workforce
that
they
can
hire
to
keep
their
businesses
going.
F
One
of
the
things
I
would
like
to
do
when
we
do
this
with
the
dvba
talked
about
some
of
the
other
issues
with
the
city
and
I.
Think
as
part
of
this,
we
should
look
at
what
other
types
of
of
Permitting
or
other
types
of
fees
that
we
could
do
to
to
be
helpful
so
that
we're
not
discouraging
because
10
percent
inclusionary
of
no
housing
is
no
housing
is
no
inclusionary
housing.
So
the
whole
goal
is
that
we
want
to
make
sure
this
actually
happens.
F
So
I
think
there's
other
ways
in
which
we
can
help
support
developers,
and
we
can
also
look
at
certain
incentives
on
other
programs.
We
do
I
know
councilmember
Halsted
brought
up
lodging,
but
at
the
same
time,
all
of
our
studies
will
show
that
we
need
a
new
convention
Hotel
so
and
they
do
raise
other
things
with
tot
and
and
help
our
economy
in
general.
So
there
may
be
other
ways
in
which
we
can
help.
Have
them
do
a
commercial
linkage
fee
but
also
encourage
a
new
hotel
to
be
built.
F
F
So
I
support
this
moving
forward.
I
do
like
the
planning
commission's
recommendations,
but
I
would
like
to
I
would
like
to
discuss
that
further
and
ensure
that
we
have
as
much
stakeholder
input
and
I
agree
with
councilmember
holstich.
Having
a
real
round
table
with
discussion
is
much
different
than
than
just
public
comment,
and
we
should
actively
try
and
do
that
with
different
stakeholder
groups
in
all
the
different
communities.
So
thank
you
very
thank
you
councilmember
hostage
for
asking
all
those
good
questions
and
again
Ashley
and
staff.
Thank
you
for
this
great
report.
X
Thank
you.
No
questions.
If
you
have
a
few
comments,
we're
in
a
a
crisis
in
California
and
in
Palm
Springs
and
numerous
communities
across
California
when
it
comes
to
housing
and
affordability
of
housing,
and
that
means
we
do
have
to
try
some
different
tools
and
programs
in
order
to
address
those
housing
shortages.
X
And
that's
the
question
that
every
Builder
that
is
considering
building
in
Palm
Springs
is
going
to
ask
themselves
and
they're
not
going
to
address
it
in
a
very
complicated
way.
They
are
going
to
Simply.
Look
at
whether
or
not
this
pencil
is
out
or
does
not
pencil
out,
because
there's
no
way
to
take
an
put
this
in
place,
other
than
to
admit
that
we
are
adding
costs
to
building
in
Palm
Springs
and
we
are
going
to
make
it
more
difficult.
X
X
A
Okay,
all
right!
Well,
you
know
this
is
something
that
we've
been
talking
about
for
quite
some
time:
I
think
it
was.
It
was
discussed
before
I
even
joined
Council,
and
it's
something
that
I
I
wish.
We
had
looked
into
10
years
ago
to
see
what
was
possible
and
how
we
could
really
leverage
these
opportunities
with
all
of
the
building
that
we
have
had
in
Palm
Springs
in
the
last
several
developments.
A
It's
a
shame
that
we
couldn't
have
this
in
place
for
marillon
and
Elon
and
all
of
the
ones
that
are
moving
forward.
I
want
us
to
see
us
I'd
like
to
see
us
look
into
this
and
move
forward
with
the
possibility
of
an
ordinance
I
want
it
to
work
so
as
as
nice
as
it
would
be
to
be
able
to
charge
the
highest
of
fees.
I,
don't
think
that
that's
reasonable
for
our
area.
I
think
we
want
to.
A
We
all
want
to
see
as
much
new
housing
as
possible,
but
it
has
to
be
done
in
a
way
that
works
for
our
city,
and
that's
sounds
like
that's.
What
I'm
hearing
from
the
rest
of
council
as
well
is
that
we
want
this
to
work,
and
if
that
means
it
needs
to
be
less
fees
than
are
ideal
for
our
deal
in
our
minds.
Then
that's
what
it
needs
to
be
and
we
need
to
be
smart
about
it
and
and,
as
councilmember
Middleton
said,
make
sure
that
it
works.
A
D
D
Think
September
2021
when
we
had
this
meeting
and
we
talked
about
a
vacation,
rental
tot
and
a
program
to
get
housing
other
Revenue
sources,
other
programs
that
the
city
could
do,
but
this
would
apply
to
then
new
projects
that
add
density
to
existing
buildings
right
so
I
think
just
when
we're
thinking
about
the
future
of
development
in
Palm
Springs,
it's
very
limited
to
look
at
the
land,
and
we
really
should
be
thinking
about.
We
know
demand
is
high.
AB
That's
correct:
when
we
look
at
the
amount
of
undeveloped
land
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
for
residential
uses,
it's
correct
that
we
really
don't
have
that
much
land
left.
We
provided
a
table
in
your
staff
report
that
is
from
our
housing
element.
But
what
that
doesn't
take
into
account
is
that
things
that
we'll
need
to
look
at
in
the
future.
Moving
forward
is
commercial
property.
AB
For
example,
we
have
a
couple
of
shopping
centers
that
still
have
vacant
undeveloped,
Parcels
they're
zoned
for
commercial
uses,
but
due
to
recent
changes
in
our
zoning
code
that
the
city
council
has
approved,
we
allow
residential
in
commercial
areas,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
things
that
isn't
taken
into
consideration
is
that,
as
we
look
to
use
commercial
sites
for
the
development
of
housing,
it
would
be
subject
to
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance.
If
you
move
forward,
the
those
types
of
projects
would
be
subject
to
the
inclusionary
ordinance.
A
A
Agree
with
that,
and
that's
part
of
why
this
inclusionary
zoning
still
makes
sense
right
is
that
there
still
are
opportunities,
whether
it's
just
looking
at
the
raw
land
or
looking
at
increasing
density
or
converting
properties
in
into
housing
that
maybe
weren't
already
housing.
So
I
think
this
is
a
really
positive
step
forward
and,
let's
just
make
sure
that
it
works
for
for
everyone,
so
that
we
can
actually
see
the
see
this
implemented
and
to
see
the
impact
of
it
and
not
just
have
it
be.
In
theory,
mayor
Pro,
tem
and.
F
AB
AB
One
of
the
other
things
I
forgot
to
mention
earlier.
As
we
talk
about
stakeholders
is,
we
need
to
look
to
the
tribe
as
well
for
their
input
on
these
programs.
While
we
have
been
in
discussions
with
tribal
staff,
they
do
have
copies
of
the
reports.
They
would
like
some
additional
time
to
digest
this
information,
provide
it
to
the
Indian
Planning
Commission,
as
well
as
the
tribal
council.
We
would
definitely
like
to
get
their
input
on
these
programs
as
well
as
we
move
forward.
F
AB
F
You
I
mean,
and
that
would
be
that
would
be
great
and
I
just
want
to
concur
with
council
member
Middleton.
We
don't
want
to
for
all
development
and
I
believe
the
planning
commissions,
what
the
options
they
picked
were:
the
the
lowest
requirements
out
of
the
three,
but
if
there
is
something
lower
or
or
a
a
time
delayed
in
time,
a
staged
putting
this
into
place
that
may
make
sense
as
well
so
I
think
having
the
stakeholder
input
will
be,
will
be
essential
and
also
looking
at
other
incentives
for
developers
to
be
here.
E
I
was
I,
wasn't
able
to
make
the
comment.
I
couldn't
get
my
meat
unmuted.
Thank
you.
I
I
agree
with
and
I
appreciate
the
comments
from
my
colleagues
tonight
and
I
I
I'm,
supportive,
and
would
you
know,
certainly
want
to
encourage
opportunities
like
this,
but
I
think
we
do
need
to
move
cautiously
forward.
Have
those
conversations
with
the
stakeholders
and
and
take
the
take
a
baby
step
when
it
comes
to
the
the
amount
of
fees
that
we
would
even
entertain.
E
You
know
we
just
need
to
be
cautious
as
we
go
forward.
We
don't
need
to
continue
to
scare
Builders
off
from
from
Palm
Springs
and
we
want
to
send
the
message
that
is
directly
opposite
to
that.
That
they're
welcomed
here,
but
I
am
supportive
of
us.
Continuing
to
to
move
forward
in
the
stakeholder
input
is,
is
going
to
be
really
valuable.
A
Thank
you
and
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
one
of
the
things
that
can
make
inclusionary
zoning
ordinances
even
stronger
is
the
support
of
other
cities
in
the
region.
So
if
we
were
able
to
encourage
all
of
the
cities
in
the
Coachella
Valley
to
adopt
inclusionary
zoning
ordinances,
that
could
really
strengthen
our
impact
overall
and
what
we
could
be
doing
for
affordable
housing
in
our
region.
I
know
that
places
like
lift
to
rise
are
working
on
encouraging
this
throughout
throughout
the
the
valley
and
I'd
love
to
see
ways
that
we
can
support
that
work.
A
If
we
are,
if
we
do
end
up
accepted,
approving
an
ordinance
I
would
love
to
to
have
a
discussion
at
a
later
date
on
how
we
can
encourage
others.
Other
Valley
Cities
to
also
do
the
same
thing
and
have
those
pro-housing
designations
and
as
Greg
Rodriguez
from
the
county
said,
the
the
more
cities
in
our
region
that
have
pro-housing
designations,
the
better
it
is
for
funding
overall
for
affordable
housing
and
I.
Think
we
need
to
take
advantage
of
all
of
the
state
and
federal
dollars.
A
Do
we
have
a
motion
to
move
forward
with
this
item?
I,
don't
I
what
I?
What
yeah
we
do?
We
do
I
did
confirming
City
attorney
that
we
do
need
a
motion
to
move
forward.
What
I
heard
was
that
we
would
like
to
have
additional
stakeholder
input,
we're
looking
at
the
options
that
are
presented
to
us
from
the
Planning
Commission
and
maybe
an
additional
option
that
is
a
little
bit
below
that
based
on
stakeholder
input,
but
that
there
is
generally
an
interest
in
in
discussing
this
as
an
ordinance.
A
P
A
A
AB
Madam
mayor
members
of
council,
as
you'll
recall
back
in
March
of
this
year,
we
had
a
discussion
about
our
Mobile
Food
Truck
ordinance,
looking
at
potential
amendments
to
that
we
discussed
this
in
conjunction
with
the
sidewalk
vending
ordinance,
and
so
we
didn't
really
spend
a
whole
lot
of
time
on
mobile
food
trucks,
trucks.
But
there
was
some
basic
concepts
that
you
requested,
that
staff
look
at
and
really
the
key
issue
that
was
mentioned
is
the
idea
of
making
mobile
food
trucks
more
accessible
or
giving
them
greater
opportunities
to
locate
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
AB
AB
What
we're
proposing
is
to
remove
that
prohibition
and
to
allow
them
under
most
conditions.
One
of
the
exceptions
to
that
is
where
we
do
have
an
active
concession
agreement.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
impact
those
concession
agreements
that
we
have
in
our
parks,
and
so
what
I
propose
to
you
is
to
allow
them
in
public
parks
and
where
there
is
a
concession
agreement
allowing
the
Parks
and
Recreation
director
to
approve
those
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
For
example,
demuth
Park
is
a
very
large
Park.
AB
We
have
our
concession
booths
immediately
adjacent
to
the
fields,
but
there
are
other
areas
where
a
food
truck
may
be
viable,
and
so,
in
those
situations,
the
Parks
and
Recreation
director
would
be
able
to
approve
the
food
trucks.
Another
area
that
we
might
be
able
to
open
this
up.
Some
more
is
relative
to
the
streets
where
they're
permitted
in
the
current
ordinance.
We
limit
them
to
streets
where
the
speed
limit
is
no
more
than
35
miles
per
hour.
AB
What
I'm
proposing
is
to
bump
that
up
to
40
miles
per
hour,
we've
had
a
number
of
streets
where
the
speed
limit
has
been
changed
with
that
change.
That
does
open
up
some
additional
opportunities,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
things
that
may
give
food
trucks
greater
opportunities
here
in
the
city
and
then
finally,
one
of
the
other
areas
where
we
seem
to
be
rather
restrictive
is
relative
to
the
hours
of
operation.
AB
There
are
a
number
of
exemptions
for
mobile
food
trucks
that
many
people
aren't
aware
of.
I
just
want
to
point
those
out
briefly
in
the
following
instances:
you
can
already
have
a
mobile
food
truck,
and
so
that
would
be
to
service
construction
sites,
they're
already
permitted
there,
where
they
have
a
specific
contract
to
service
a
business
or
a
residence
they're
currently
permitted
in
those
instances.
AB
That
would
be,
for
example,
catering
in
event.
Mobile
food
trucks
could
be
used
in
that
regard,
and
so,
consequently,
that
is
currently
permitted.
They
are
allowed
on
school
properties
with
the
approval
of
the
school
administration,
and
so
they
would
be
exempt
from
our
restrictions,
otherwise,
where
the
school
does
allow
them
and
then
finally
allowed
as
part
of
a
temporary
special
event,
it
isn't
completely
clear
in
our
ordinance,
but
that's
the
way
that
we
have
been
interpreting
it
and
as
one
of
the
cleanup
or
clarifications
that
I'm
proposing.
AB
One
of
the
other
instances
where
they're
allowed
currently
but
is
not
very
explicit
in
our
ordinance
and
people
may
not
be
aware
of
it
is
we
do
allow
food
trucks
on
private
property
via
a
land
use.
Permit
land
use
permits
are
approved
administratively
by
staff,
so
it's
a
very
short
process
to
do
that,
as
with
any
land
use
permit.
However,
it
does
need
the
approval
of
the
property
owner,
and
so
the
property
owner
would
need
to
sign
off
on
that
land
use
permit
to
further
incentivize
this
to
provide
greater
opportunities.
AB
G
Sure
that's
a
fair
question.
I
will
start
by
saying
this.
The
city's
discretion
with
regard
to
food
trucks
is
much
broader
than
it
is
with
regard
to,
for
instance,
sidewalk
vending,
which
we
have
been
dealing
with
over
the
last
few
months,
and
that's
because
the
sidewalk
vending
Arena
has
been
largely
preempted
by
the
state
with
regard
to
food
trucks,
let's
assume
we're
not
talking
about
food
trucks
on
sidewalks,
because
theoretically
we
could
be,
but
we're
talking
about
sidewalks,
just
in
regular
streets
and
on
private
property.
The
city
has
more
discretion.
G
It
has
its
General
police
power.
I
will
say
it's
limited
by
two
things:
one
is:
there
is
a
state
statute
in
the
vehicle
code
that
applies
to
on-street
food
trucks,
in
other
words,
not
on
private
property.
Only
on
the
street
that
vehicle
code
says
that
cities
May
regulate
the
time,
place
and
manner
of
food
trucks
on
streets,
but
that
the
city
cannot
ban
them
entirely.
So
the
city
cannot
ban
food
trucks
from
the
city
entirely,
and
one
court
has
said
that
cities
cannot
ban
food
trucks
within
an
entire
residential
district.
G
So
that's
the
first
limitation.
The
second
limitation
is
a
constitutional
limitation,
which
involves
some
courts,
saying
that
cities
cannot
regulate
food
trucks
based
purely
on
anti-competitive
interests,
in
other
words,
simply
because
the
city
wants
to
favor
restaurants,
fixed
restaurants,
for
instance
over
mobile
food
trucks.
G
Now
that
limitation
has
further
limitations
in
that
courts
have
also
said
that
if
a
city
can
articulate
legitimate
governmental
reasons
for
treating
food
trucks
differently
than
fixed
restaurants
than
the
city
can
so,
for
instance,
if
the
city
finds
that
having
food
trucks
in
a
particular
area
close
to
restaurants,
that
would
create
pedestrian
congestion
and
pedestrian
safety
hazards.
That
is
a
legitimate
basis
upon
which
the
city
can
regulate
the
location
of
food
trucks
relative
to
fixed
restaurants.
G
Similarly,
if
the
city
council
is
concerned
about
food
trucks
impacting
restaurants,
viability
and
therefore
impacting
the
condition
of
downtown,
possibly
leading
to
blight,
that
is
a
legitimate
governmental
interest.
So
the
city
council
can
consider
those
types
of
governmental
interests
you
just
can't
regulate,
simply
because
you
favor
one
over
the
other.
So
in
some
you
do
have
a
a
good
deal
of
discretion.
I
think
that
in
large
part,
our
current
ordinance,
as
well
as
those
that
are
being
proposed
by
staff,
would
be
consistent
with
those
limitations
that
are
articulated.
G
X
AB
Necessarily
you
already
have
in
the
ordinance
as
it
currently
exists,
a
limitation
to
streets
that
are
35
miles
per
hour
or
below,
so
that
does
include
residential
streets.
However,
there's
also
language
in
the
ordinance
that
requires
them
to
have
access
to
restrooms
or
hand
washing
stations
if
they're
parked
on
a
street
for
longer
than
x
amount
of
time,
by
virtue
of
that
in
residential
neighborhoods,
because
there
isn't
access
to
restrooms
or
such
facilities,
it
generally
precludes
them
from
being
in
those
areas.
G
X
G
Well,
I
think
one
such
limitation
might
be
prohibiting
food
trucks
from
operating
directly
in
front
of
a
restaurant
where
people
are
presumably
Gathering
patrons
of
that
restaurant
or
presumably
Gathering,
including
out
on
the
on
the
sidewalk
I,
think
the
potential
for
conflict
between
those
patrons
and
the
patrons
of
the
food
trucks
would
provide
a
basis
to
to
regulate
food
trucks
that
are
again
either
in
front
of
that
restaurant
or
maybe
within
a
close
distance.
Maybe
100
200
feet
of
that
restaurant.
G
If
the
council
wished
to
to
perhaps
modify
the
current
prohibition
within
the
downtown
district,
you
could
do
that
by
maybe
regulating
the
type
the
time
that
they
are
allowed.
So,
for
instance,
recognizing
that
food
establishments
are
providing
a
service
and
food
to
to
folks
During
certain
hours.
You
know
normal
operating
hours,
maybe
eight
or
nine
to
nine
or
ten
PM,
but
allowing
food
trucks
to
operate
on
the
off
hour
times
within
the
downtown.
That
would
be
a
reasonable
time
place
and
manner
restriction
consistent
with
the
California
vehicle
code
and.
G
G
X
D
You
thank
you
so
much
for
everyone
and
for
staff
for
bringing
this
forward.
I
know
we
brought
this
forward
with
sidewalk
vending
originally
and
Council
really
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
sidewalk
bending
I'll
just
give
a
little
bit
of
context,
because
the
state
did
change
the
law
for
sidewalk
vending
and
really
prohibited
our
ability
to
regulate
sidewalk
vending,
and
you
know
certain
areas
of
the
city.
D
As
we
all
know,
it
became
then
sort
of
an
absurd
result
that
you
can
operate
sidewalk
vending,
but
not
able
to
operate
a
food
truck,
for
example,
at
the
same
location,
which
is
an
absurd
result
and
I
think
we
do
want
to
support
businesses
in
our
city,
including
food
trucks.
They
personally
talk
to
workers
like
at
coffee
shops
and
throughout
the
city
who
are
working
on
starting
up
their
businesses,
who
have
food
trucks
like
cute
little
mid-century,
modern
coffee.
D
You
know
trucks
that
they're,
like
attack
trailers,
that
sort
of
thing
these
are
benefits
to
the
city
and
so
I
just
want
to
urge
some
specificity
when
we're
talking
about
this
issue
and
also
that
we
probably
want
it
consistent
with
sidewalk
vending
because
again,
if
you
can
sell
coffee
on
under
a
tarp
and
on
a
corner,
but
you
can't
do
it
from
you
know
a
mobile
business.
That's
an
absurd
result
that
we
want
to
fix
as
a
policy
matter.
D
So
I
really
appreciate
City
staff
bringing
this
forward
I
support
the
changes
that
you've
included
I
do
want
to
get
a
little
bit
more
specific
about
the
downtown,
since
we
know
that
we
are
not
allowed
to
ban
or
limit
food
trucks
just
from
economic
preservation,
which
is
also
an
issue
we
addressed
when
we
did
Street
vending.
These
are
pretty
parallel
issues
and
so
I
think
there
are
areas
of
the
downtown
that
could
benefit
from
more
foot.
Traffic
could
benefit
for
more
Economic
Development.
You
know
work,
you
see.
D
The
city
of
desert
hot
springs
is
doing
Friday
nights
on
Pearson,
with
food
truck
activity,
events
sort
of
like
a
street
fair
for
their
residents
and
that's
really
helping
build
up
business
and
build
up
foot
traffic
and
get
people
to
local
businesses.
So
I
will
always
say
a
rising
tide
lifts
all
boats
and
economic
development
for
some
businesses
helps
others.
D
We
really
can't
see
this
as
either
or
because
the
people
who
are
eating
a
taco
at
a
food
truck
or
an
iced
coffee
are
not
the
people
who
are
going
to
sit
down
at
a
sit-down
restaurant.
It's
just
different
groups
of
customers
and
different
business,
and
we
want
all
of
it.
We
want
to
have
young
families
and
low-income
people
walk
around
in
Palm
Springs
and
be
able
to
get
a
five
dollar
ten
dollar
item
of
Dent
for
dinner
and
so
I
just
think
it
helps
our
entire
downtown,
so
I
support
staff's,
recommended
changes.
D
I
really
appreciate
those
and
I'd
love
to
see
us
get
with
specificity.
You
know:
I
agree
with
the
city
attorney's
recommendation
to
have
limitations
on
where
food
trucks
can
be
in
front
of
existing
restaurants
in
front.
You
know
in
front
of
areas
that
we
know
or
high
congestion,
similarly
to
what
we
did
with
sidewalk
vending,
but
not
exclude
those
areas
that
could
really
benefit
for
more
attention
more
activity.
You
know
more
draws
the
thing
that
I
love
so
much
about
food
trucks
is
their
activities,
their
things
to
do.
D
I've
said
a
few
times:
I
literally
joined
Twitter
in
2011
to
follow
food
trucks
around
New,
York
City.
It
was
a
draw.
It
was
a
thing
to
do,
and
desert
hot
springs
is
doing
that.
We've
worked
with
Coachella
food
Festival
who's
done
food
truck
parks
for
residents
in
Parks.
We
are
working
with
them
and
they
were
willing
to
do
that
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
to
support
local
businesses.
So
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity.
D
F
AB
F
F
F
G
F
Question
is
so,
for
instance,
in
our
areas
where
we
have
three
hour
parking
limits.
That
means
somebody
can
park
at
five
stay
Delight.
Then
there's
no
limit
till
three
that
noon
the
next
day
in
the
next
eight
or
three,
so
that
so,
if
as
long
as
they
had
a
bathroom
and
nearby,
they
could
stay
there
from
5
PM
to
3
P.M
the
next
day
and
take
up
three
sparking
spaces.
G
That
again,
I
think
you'd
probably
want
to
look
at
how
that
is
any
different
from
any
other
vehicle.
That's
parking
there,
in
other
words,
if
it's,
if
it's
okay
for
the
city
to
have
any
other
vehicle
parked
there
that
long,
then
we'd
have
to
articulate
a
reason
why
we're
not?
Okay
with
the
food
truck
parking
there,
that
long.
G
F
So
that
that's
something
that
might
make
sense-
and
this
and
I
guess
a
question
for
Flynn,
so
this
definition
of
downtown
is
something
that
exists
in
a
lot
of
other
ordinances.
Yes,
it
does.
Okay,
I
think
it's
a
bit
Antiquated,
just
in
the
sense
that
our
down
well,
our
business
district
has
gone
South
of
Ramon
and
and
east
of
and
east
of
India,
and
we
have
a
lot
happening
so
I
think
that's
something
to
consider.
F
I
don't
want
to
change
it
if
there's
going
to
be
a
ripple
effect,
but
that's
something
to
consider
I
do
say
that
you
know
I
will
say:
I
actually
love
food
trucks
and
I
and
I
would
like
to
see
more
in
the
city.
But
I
would
like
to
see
them
like
in
our
parks
where
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
food
opportunities.
I
would
not
necessarily
like
to
see
them
I
guess
if
the
park
closes,
we're
covered
all
of
our
parks
close
at
a
certain
point,
so
we're
covered
by
that.
F
So
that
and
that's
what
we
actually
really
desperately
need
them.
We
should
absolutely
allow
them
for
temporary
special
events
as
we're
actually
doing
right
now
and
and
I
like
the
idea
of
a
food
truck
event,
especially
at
something
like
a
Ruth
Hardy
or
Duluth
Park.
That
would
actually
help
activate
the
park.
F
I
do
think,
though,
that
you
know
our
restaurants
operate
on
single
digit
margins,
I
think
it's
the
average
profit
margin
for
restaurant
and
the
thing
I
heard
from
some
of
the
internet
sources
I
saw
was
three
to
six
percent,
so
what
I
would
say
is
it
does
make
sense
to
restrict
them
from
operating
within
100
feet
of
another
restaurant,
because
we
don't
want
to
have
blighted
blighted.
Storefronts
like
like
we've
had
with
other
industries
that
have
become
that
have
that
have
have
had
low
margins,
and
things
like
that.
F
F
I,
don't
quite
you
know,
I
think
sidewalk
vending
is
something
that
was.
We
didn't
have
any
control
over
and
it
is
a
different
model
than
this
I
mean
they're.
Taking
up
the
sidewalk
space
is
taking
up
parking,
so
it's
a
little
bit
different,
but
so
I
don't
think
they
have
to
be
perfectly
aligned.
But
obviously
there
shouldn't
be
vast
differences
in
that
and
places
like
desert,
hot
springs,
and
other
cities
have
done
these
very
successful
food
things
because
their
downtown
really
needed
it.
I
don't
think
we
need
it.
F
I
think
we
need
to
look
for
areas
that
actually
do
need
it
like
the
parks
and
and
office
Parks.
You
know
be
nice
to
have
one
at
City
Hall,
so
I
would
look
at
those
couple
restrictions
on
there
that
we
could
do
I'm,
not
sure
about
the
the
hours
in
different
areas,
but
I
think
that's
something
I'll
see
what
the
be
my
fellow
council
members
have
to
say.
So
thank
you.
E
E
That
line
item
that
or
that
that
line
that
we
included
in
sidewalk
vending
didn't
get
included
into
food
truck
or
I,
don't
see
it
if
it's
there,
the
other
one
that
we're
not
consistent
with
is
we
for
our
sidewalk
vendors.
We
say
that
they
shall
cease
operations
one
hour
prior
to
the
close
of
the
park,
but
they
may
still
be
present
in
the
park
until
the
time
the
park
closes
in
order
to
pack
up
their
things
and
enjoy
the
park.
E
It
counsel
is
and
creating
the
opportunity
where
they
can
be
in
Parks,
creates
additional
opportunity
and
I.
Think
that's
that's
good.
I
I,
don't
know
if
the
hours
you
know
going
into
wee
hours
of
the
morning
is,
is
the
right
thing
to
do?
3
A.M
is,
it
seems
awfully
late,
but
I'd
also
I
appreciate
the
being
able
to
operate
on
private
property
with
the
minor
land
use.
E
I
feel
that
encouraging
the
Food
Truck
Sales
on
45
40
mile
per
hour,
roadways
is
really
not
in
the
best
public
interest
and
allowing
sales
on
35
mile
per
hour
hosted
streets
does
include
92
percent
of
all
paved
streets
in
the
city
and
I.
Think
that
does
prioritize
Public
Safety
under
commercialism
and
I.
Think
Public
Safety
has
to
win
out
over
an
opportunity
for
additional
sales
on
eight
percent
of
our
streets.
E
I,
don't
know
if,
if
my
fellow
council
members
would
support
a
10
P.M
to
9
00
a.m,
time
frame
for
the
downtown
business
district
but
I
think
a
better
solution.
There
is
just
you
know,
keeping
a
200
foot
distance
from
other
restaurants
in
in
we
we've
heard.
You
know
that
they're,
a
food
truck
customers,
a
different
customer
than
somebody
who
is
going
to
a
bricks
and
mortar
restaurant
and
in
many
cases
that's
true
and
studies-
show
that
that's
true,
but
we
also
know
from
our
restaurant
community
and
people.
E
Who've
worked
in
areas
where
food
trucks
and
and
restaurants
coexide
is
the
food
truck,
will
certainly
see
business
from
bricks
and
mortar
restaurants
when
they
start
to
have
a
waiting
list.
There
are
people
waiting
out
front.
Those
some
of
those
individuals
do
make
the
decision
that
you
know
it's
very
convenient
that
that
food
truck
is
is
only
a
few
feet
away
that
they'll
instead
of
waiting,
10
or
15
minutes
for
a
seat
they'll
go
to
the
food
truck
and
I.
E
Think
that
that's
in
a
direct
example
of
how
there
is
a
negative
impact
and
and
we've
got
to
balance
that
with
the
fact
that
there
is
positive
impacts
too,
we
know
we
know,
food
trucks
are
fun.
We
know
they're,
exciting
and
and
I've
always
said
that
we've
got
to
let's.
Let's
look
at
those
areas
where
we
can
create
a
special
space.
We
can
create
our
own
food
park
space
and
we've
heard
that
several
times
tonight.
E
I
think
you
know
that
definitely
is
something
that
we
should
continue
to
explore,
but
having
having
a
a
linear
footage,
distance
kept
between
a
food
truck
and
a
bricks
and
mortar
restaurant
of
200
feet.
If
that's
what
the
law
will
allow
I
think
I
would
support
that
and
certainly
prohibiting
food
sales
from
diagonal
parking.
I
think
that
that
that
answers
the
pedestrian's
safety,
the
the
traffic
impact
issue,
so
that
would
take
care
of
a
public
safety
issue
where
we
do
have
diagonal
parking
spaces.
E
A
Thank
you
very
much,
I
think
I'm,
the
only
one
left.
My
comments
were
far
more
specific
about
what
we
were
seeing
in
our
ordinance
in
terms
of
the
hours
I
think
it
would
be
great
to
be
able
to
have
mobile
vendors
food
trucks
near
you
know
bars
and
clubs
in
the
later
hours.
I
said
this
before
about
the
street
vendors.
A
If
it
means
that
they're
taking
a
lot
longer
to
before
they
get
in
their
car,
because
as
much
as
we
want
people
to
not
drink
and
drive,
and
we
encourage
that
sometimes
they
do
anyway
and
so
any
delay
that
can
happen
before
they
actually
get
in
their
car
and
any
food
they
can
get
in
their
stomach.
I
I
want
to
do
because
I
I
am
concerned
about
just
the
the
reality
of
of
how
people
go
out.
A
They
might
be
somewhere
for
two
hours,
but
generally
very
limited
amounts
of
time
when
I
lived
in
DC
and
there
was
kind
of
this
big
surge
of
food
trucks,
even
during
the
the
heaviest
times,
they
were
only
parked
for
about
two
hours
and
then
they
moved
on
because
there
that
was
really
the
only
lunch
rush
that
you
could
do
and
then
there
was
nobody
around
to
serve
so
it
would.
It
would
be
difficult
to
charge
for
for
them
to
park.
A
I'd
like
I
really
liked
is
to
see
them
at
parks
and
to
encourage
the
use
at
parks.
There
is
one
on
page
12
under
prohibited
conduct.
It
lists
that
mobile
food
vending
vehicles
cannot
be
parked
within
500
feet
of
the
nearest
property
line
of
any
schools
serving
students
18
years
or
younger.
We
have
several
schools
that
are
located
near
Parks,
well,
I,
guess
two
visit,
El
Monte
and
Catherine
Fincher,
both
adjacent
to
parks,
and
it
would
be
nice
to
see
that
that
was
just
during
school
hours.
A
I
understand
getting
the
consent
during
school
hours,
but
you
know
Saturdays
and
Sundays
are
the
times
when
I
really
envision
having
these
vendors
near
at
the
park,
for
when
people
are
frequenting
them
more
and
if
they
have
to
limit
the
areas
of
where
they
can
park.
Because
of
that
I
think
that's
a
it.
It
becomes
there's
other
places
to
park,
but
it
becomes
kind
of
silly
because
the
the
reason
for
limiting
it
is
no
is
not
in
happening
at
that
time.
A
A
My
my
biggest
concern
is
allowing
them
at
parks
and
allowing
them
to
park
in
areas
that
are
near
bars
and
clubs
that,
where
they're
in
later
in
the
evening,
when
there
would
there
are
no
other
food
options,
nearby
I
I
would
just
like
to
see
us
activate
those
spaces
and
make
sure
people
are
are
eating,
because
we
are
getting
a
lot
of
more
younger
crowds
in
Palm
Springs
than
we
ever
used
to
have
I.
Think!
That's!
That's
it
for
me,
but
I
did
hear
a
lot
of
different
comments
stated
and
I.
D
I
actually
have
a
question
for
staff,
because
I
heard
a
number
of
concerns
about
length
of
parking
and
parklets
which
are
permanent,
and
you
know
renting
out
space
for
the
city
property.
So
I
was
wondering
I
believe
some
other
cities
have
parking
limits
for
food
trucks
like
they're,
not
able
to
park
for
longer
than
two
or
three
hours
or
some
period
of
time,
so
can
stop
answer.
Did
you
find
that
in
your
research
for
ordinances
that
might
at
least
fix
some
of
the
concerns
about
a
parking
and
long-term
parking.
D
The
hours
would
do
that
anyway,
because
you'd
have
to
end
by
whatever
hours,
Council
decides
if
it's
3,
A.M
or
a
different
time,
but
we
could
actually
probably
implement
a
period
of
time
right.
You
can
be
there
for
two
or
three
or
whatever
the
reasonable
amount
of
hours
are
before
you
have
to
move
on.
Yes,.
G
Councilmember
hulsage
I'm
sure
there
are
other
examples,
but
I
did
find
at
least
one
City
West
Hollywood,
that
has
they
kind
of
differentiate
between
kind
of
short-term
parking,
I
believe
it's
up
to
60
minutes
and
then
anything
over
that
there's
kind
of
an
encroachment
permit.
A
mini
encroachment
permit
process
that
the
food
trucks
go
through,
but
that's
the
very
type
of
time
place
and
manner
restriction
that
I
think
the
council
could
Implement
if
you're
interested.
D
D
There
are
some
areas
that
really
need
love.
We've
really
been
working
for
the
last:
what
10
years,
trying
or
longer
to
make
Indian
Canyon
more
of
a
destination
and
trying
to
do
the
you
know:
Street
repairs
and
two-way
road
to
make
that
happen.
So
yeah
I'm
I'm
interested
if
we
could
include
a
Time
limitation
if
that
would
relay
some
of
Mayor
Pro,
tem
and
council
members
concerns.
AB
So
if
I
might
just
ask
a
clarifying
question,
we've
had
a
couple
of
different
ideas
put
forth
this
evening,
one
that
our
attorney
has
indicated
relative
to
based
on
issues
of
congestion.
Looking
at
a
separation
distance
from
restaurant
restaurants,
as
well
as
also
looking
at
restrictions
in
terms
of
the
length
of
time
that
they
can
occupy
an
on-street
parking
space,
might
we
look
at
those
two
options,
rather
than
the
downtown
prohibition?
AB
I,
think
that
might
help
to
solve
some
of
the
concerns
that
we're
having,
while
also
allowing
food
trucks
in
areas
that
aren't
served
by
restaurants,
where
they
may
be
more
appropriate?
As
the
mayor
mentioned
in
the
early
hours
of
the
morning,
next
to
bars
and
nightclubs,
it
seems
like
those
two
things
might
serve
a
better
purpose
than
the
downtown
prohibition,
while
achieving
the
goals
of
the
city.
Council
am
I.
Hearing
that
correctly.
A
AB
A
F
F
I,
don't
really
have
a
problem
if
that's
lowered,
because
that
would
only
be
in
someone's
private
property
and
certainly
and
for
events
they
don't
they
just
get
a
regular
business
license
right
and
anybody
who
operates
in
whether
they
come
in
for
an
hour
or
an
hour
every
day
for
a
year
or
once
they
still
have
to
have
a
promise
for
this
business
license.
That's
that's
correct.
F
Okay,
so
I
would
support
that
if
we
had
the
separation
distance
from
other
restaurants
of
200
feet
that
it's
a
two-hour
parking
limit,
not
in
diagonal
spaces,
we
lower
the
permit
fees
on
on
land
use,
permit
fees.
We
allow
the
schools
to
allow
them
to
operate
near
schools
that
are
closed
not
during
school
hours,
and
that
we
also
actively
look
at
how
do
we
activate
them
in
the
Parks
and
create
zones
where
they're
they
they
want
to?
They
should
be
so.
AB
F
AB
X
We
have
choices
on
this
and
we
are
bringing
more
division
into
the
city
and
I
think
we
will
pay
a
price
for
this,
so
I
I
doubt
that
I
will
be
able
to
support
anything
that
is
being
brought
forward
this
evening.
I
would
encourage
us
to
take
our
time
and
move
slowly
and
to
make
sure
that
we
have
gotten
everything
right,
but
with
deep
respect
we
will.
We
will
regret
what
appears
to
be
happening
this
evening.
A
F
AB
F
I
will
say
and
to
that
there
was
not
a
lot
of.
There
was
not
a
lot
of
community
or
stakeholder
input
in
this
I'm,
not
sure
everybody
was
quite
aware
of
what
the
changes
would
be.
So
I
have
the
feeling
that
that's
going
to
come
out
once
they
read
any
kind
of
motion
forward
today,
because
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
most
people
are
not
aware.
F
This
was
going
through
I
think
they
saw
a
sort
of
minor
minor
changes
that
that
was
outlined,
basically
in
the
Parks,
which
I
don't
think,
restricted
it,
but
the
elimination
from
downtown
and
what
other
effects
I'm
not
sure
that
everybody's
quite
aware
of
that
so
I
I,
respect,
councilmember
Middleton
said
we
may
not
be
aware.
We
name
it
conscious
of
all
the
things
that
are
happening
in
consideration,
so
I
would
say
that
we
move
forward
with
it
with
what
we've
talked
about
today.
The
distance
from
I
think
that's
all
clear.
F
AB
AB
In
Parks
they
would
be
permitted
subject
to
the
hours
of
operation
of
the
park.
They
would
also
need
to
adhere
to
the
city's
food,
wear
ordinance,
I'm,
also
adding
it
seems
like
we
wanted
to
cap
it
at
35
miles
per
hour.
They're
only
allowed
on
streets
with
the
speed
limit,
where
it's
35
miles
per
hour
or
less,
and
then
there
is
also
a
request
on
the
part
of
council
to
Garner
additional
Community
input.
Before
we
come
back
to
you.
F
D
AB
We
proposed
language
in
the
sidewalk
vending
ordinance
that
allows
us
to
establish
sidewalk
vending
zones
by
resolution.
Looking
at
targeted
areas
where
they
may
be
appropriate.
For
example,
parks
would
be
a
zone
that
we
may
want
to
encourage
in
providing
appropriate
incentives
to
encourage
them
to
locate
in
the
zones
that
we
designate.
D
And
I
just
have
to
ask
I'm
sorry
because
for
the
public
mayor,
Pro
tem,
you
noted
we
weren't
sure
that
we
were
making
different
changes
to
downtown
during
this
meeting.
But
we
also
weren't
aware
of
the
law
and
the
case
law
and
the
letters
that
have
gone
to
Long,
Beach
and
other
jurisdictions.
That
really
do
limit
our
hand
to
do
a
broad-based,
Prohibition
downtown.
B
P
A
A
Thank
you
very
much
and,
as
noted,
we
do
want
to
hear
from
everyone
on
what
they
think
of
this
initial
move
forward.
The
next
item
is
item
3D
request
to
oops.
Sorry.
The
next
item
is
item
3E,
an
introduction
and
first
reading,
of
a
proposed
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
amending
chapter
5.26
of
the
Palm
Springs
Municipal
Code.
Regarding
the
hotel
operations
incentive
program.
AA
AA
for
existing
hotels.
50
percent
of
the
tot
up
to
10
years,
with
a
maximum
of
25
million,
was
to
be
shared
between
the
city
and
the
participating
Hotel,
based
on
a
of
course.
50
percent
of
the
tot
programs,
however,
were
to
be
completed
by
December
31st
of
2015.
so
effectively
under
the
initial
program.
No
new
projects
were
allowed
after
that,
except
for
those
that
had
been
extended
by
the
city
council,
such
as
Orca
tree
in
2019.
The
program
was
revived
for
existing
hotels.
AA
Only
it
was
not
available
for
construction
of
new
hotels
and
the
renovation
costs.
Under
this
program
allowed
for
five
thousand
dollars
per
room.
Will
it
actually
required
at
least
five
thousand
dollars
per
room,
but
there
was
no
overall
minimum
investment,
and
that
was
seen
as
a
way
to
allow
some
of
the
smaller
hotels
to
participate,
because
the
previous
requirement
was
fifteen
thousand
dollars
per
room
and
had
a
minimum
investment
of
one
million
dollars.
The
smaller
hotels
were
not
able
to
meet
that
investment
threshold.
AA
Also,
the
program
currently
ends
on
December
31st
2023,
so
this
coming
December
and
any
hotels
interested
in
participating
at
this
point
in
time
may
not
be
able
to
obtain
permits
for
improvements
before
then
other
hotels
are
not
able
to
participate
because
they
are
actually
at
the
tail
end
of
the
prior
program,
so
keeping
in
mind.
This
was
maybe
eight
or
nine
years
ago,
and
they
may
again
be
in
need
of
additional
investment
to
keep
their
hotels,
attractive
and
new.
AA
AA
It
would
also
clarify
that
five
years
required
for
operating
period
does
not
necessarily
need
to
be
immediately
preceding
the
date
that
the
program
application
is
deemed
accepted.
That
is,
hotels,
may
not
have
operated
for
a
few
years
and
would
not
be
able
to
meet
that
five-year
requirement,
and
so
this
would
allow
hotels
that
operated,
say
eight
years
ago
for
five
years
and
were
undergoing
Renovations
for
the
past
three
years
would
still
be
eligible
for
the
program,
as
is
being
proposed,
would
also
allow
elimination
of
the
CPI
adjustment.
The
CPI
adjustment
was
implemented
so
that.
AA
You
have
to
think
in
terms
of
comparing
50
percent
of
your
net
income
versus
50
of
your
gross
income,
because
fifty
percent
of
your
gross
income
is
the
version
of
this,
where
there's
no
Baseline
tot
it's
zero.
So
the
way
the
program
is
structured
using
the
incremental
increase
in
TOT
over
a
base
and
the
base
was
the
prior
three
years.
If
there's
no
base-
and
it's
assumed
that
it's
a
zero
then
as
opposed
to
having
a
base
of
say
two
hundred
thousand
a
year
in
TOT
that
has
previously
been
generated,
it
would
be
zero.
AA
So
if
the
new
rate
is
250
000
of
tot
that
increment
with
a
base
would
only
be
fifty
thousand
dollars
with
no
base,
it
would
be
two
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars
and
that
250
000
at
least
according
to
the
way.
The
program
was
structured
would
be
split,
50
50
with
the
city
and
the
hotel,
as
opposed
to
just
the
fifty
thousand
dollars
being
split,
50
50
with
the
hotel
and
the
city.
A
X
AA
AA
There's
no
way
to
document
it
and
up
to
this
point
they
haven't
been
allowed
to
participate
in
the
program,
so
we're
trying
to
find
a
way
so
that
they
can
participate
and
the
proposed
solution
was
well
give
them
the
same
thing,
just
shorten
the
time
frame
now,
keeping
in
mind
these
are
numbers
that
are
structured
to,
hopefully
make
sense
of
assistance
from
a
program
to
help
hotels
renovate
themselves.
There's
a
fixed
cost.
AA
We've
asked
the
hotels
to
provide
documentation
and
certified
to
the
costs,
which
is
which
has
been
done
all
so
far
with
the
hotels
we're
working
with
and
so
I
guess.
The
point
there
is
that
the
program
is
also
capped
at
the
amount
of
the
improvements.
So
there's
a
point
Beyond,
which
you
know
the
level
of
financial
assistance
won't
go
beyond
so
there's
different
ways
to
structure
this,
to
get
to
that
same
outcome,
to
help
the
hotels
financially
with
improving
and
and
rehabbing
their
their
facilities.
X
AA
F
Yeah
so
Jay
just
a
question
on
that
specific
case
for
the
Twin
Palms,
if
that's
only
shareable
for
five
years
versus
ten,
is
there
a
chance
and
that
they
don't
get
their
money
the
same
amount
of
money
back
if
they
don't
I
know
it's
capped
at
whatever
they
put
into
it,
but
if
they
don't,
if
that's
not
paid
off
in
five
years,
since
there's
no
base,
is
that
what
the
issue
is
really
if
they
wanted
to
be
extended
to
10
years
this
one
hotel?
What.
AA
It
all
depends
on
the
hotels,
current
rates
or
lack
of
a
base
and
how
much
demand
there
is
for
that
hotel
after
it's
renovated.
We've
seen
some
dramatic
improvements
in
terms
of
the
tot
at
certain
hotels
and
and
then
some
that
are
not
as
dramatic.
So
it
just
depends
on
the
pricing
that
can
happen
and
what
the
previous
Baseline
was
for
those
hotels,
okay,.
F
F
Well,
my
comments
are
basically
that
this
seems
like
the
perfect
time
to
do
it.
We've
just
had
our
last
three
years
we're
sort
of
record
tot
if
I'm
not
correct,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
and
so
to
have
that
as
your
Baseline
is
a
pretty
good
Baseline
for
us,
it's
not
like
we're.
We've
been
in
a
recession,
and-
and
this
is
and
we're
starting
from
a
low
point,
so
they
have
to
really
improve
I
will
tell
you.
F
F
I.
Think
the
the
issue
of
something
like
what
the
owners
of
Twin
Palms,
who
also
own
Descanso
raised.
That
is
a
perfect
example
of
why
this
works.
I
mean
that
hotel
was
renovated.
It
was
named
the
best
small
hotel
in
California
I,
think
number
12
in
the
country
by
Trip
Advisor.
So
that
is
a
great
that
is
great
benefit
to
the
to
the
city.
Absolutely.
F
It
works
really
well
so
I
mean
when
they
come
in
and
say
that
they
want
to
do
something
more
with
twin
bombs.
I
I,
that's
I,
hadn't
heard
this
previously,
but
I
am
leaning
towards
the
10-year
thing
specifically
because
they
have
proven
the
value
of
this
program
and
so
I
I
support
it.
I
don't
have
any
other
changes
other
than
that
10-year
share
point
in
the
for
the
ones
that
don't
have
36
months.
R
D
You
I'm
with
council
member
Middleton
I
think
this
is
confusing
in
the
way
that
it's
presented
and
I
worked
on
the
business
subcommittee
and
brought
forward
to
council
for
approval
the
tot
program
for
small
hotels
and
I'm
just
having
a
hard
time
here
so
just
to
clarify.
So
because
I
think
people
were
asking
if
this
is
a
continuation
of
the
small
hotel
program
from
2019
versus
opening
up
to
a
larger
program
for
new
hotels,
for
much
larger
hotels.
Or
is
it
both.
D
Yeah
and
I
think
we
are
sort
of
struggling
with
what's
the
right
balance
of
process
public
process
to
get
good
stakeholder
input,
because
this
is
a
really
big
deal
and
you
know
I
agree
with
my
colleagues.
Some
of
this
is
being
done
without
Fanfare.
You
know.
Normally
we
had
subcommittees
with
Council
and
then
we
would
work
these
up
and
then
we
would
bring
them
to
council
when
they
were
more
baked,
and
there
were
problems
with
that,
and
you
know
I
often
complained.
I
was
an
honor
subcommittee
and
it's
coming
to
me
pre-baked
versus
now.
D
It's
sort
of
happening
is
at
least
we're
not
seeing
the
stakeholder
Outreach
or
it's
being
done
last
minute.
You
know,
and
so
I
also
was
concerned
by
the
comments
that
we
heard
in
public
comment.
I
would
very
much
like
to
fix
that
issue
for
them
and
also
just
do
more
of
a
public
process
so
that
people
can
participate
and
we
get.
You
know
we
don't
didn't,
do
a
lot
of
stakeholder
Outreach
to
find
out.
AA
We
received
feedback
from
the
hotels
who
you
know
were
very
specific,
that
you
know
the
the
what's
preventing
them
from
participating.
Is
this
three-year
requirement
for
past
t.o.t
a
a
history,
and
we
did
have
a
good
meeting
with
a
representative
of
several
of
the
small
hotels
and
she
brought
forward
their
concerns
and
I
believe
we
are
attempting
to
address
every
single
one
of
those.
D
AA
Well
this
this
was
what
we
were
asked
to
bring
forward
in
terms
of
bringing
back
the
tot
program,
primarily
to
extend
it
from
an
economic
development
perspective.
I
believe
mayor,
Pro
tem,
hit
on
an
important
point
about
the
larger
hotels
needing
some
renovation.
I
would
agree
with
that,
and
the
recommendation
he
had
to
reach
out
and
encourage
them
to
participate
is
is
well
taken.
D
Yeah
absolutely
I
strongly
support
this
policy
and
I
think
we
have
voted
for
Council
just
to
agendize
it
right
so
I
think
we're
just
to
for
my
colleagues
as
we're
trying
to
find
that
right
balance
of
how
involved
councilism
policy
and
how
extended
we
have
of
a
public
process.
You
know
this
is
nice
to
find
find
that
right
balance.
D
For
me,
it's
quick
as
a
as
a
big
policy
change,
sort
of
or
extension,
but
I
strongly
support.
This
I
strongly
support
the
economic
development
that
this
will
bring
to
the
city,
absolutely
want
to
work
with
stakeholders
to
make
sure
that
you
know
this
is
the
right
policy
that
we're
bringing
forward
at
this
time.
D
Excuse
me,
I
did
get
input
from
some
stakeholders
asking
about
prevailing
wage
and
what
is
the
impact
of
that,
and
should
the
ordinance
state
that
prevailing
wage
is
required,
since
we've
had
some
issues
with
that
as
a
city
and
then,
if
skilled
and
trained
or
local
higher
or
there
any
other
sort
of
requirements
that
we
might
want
to
put
other
benefits
that
we
would
get
into
this
program.
I
know
Jay
when
we
have
the
business
retention.
D
Economic
Development
subcommittee:
we
have
those
conversations
at
length
around
a
round
table
with
stakeholders,
so
we
said
you
know
at
what
amount
would
it
be
worth
it
to
you?
What
type
of
projects
with
pencil
I
haven't
done
any
of
that
work?
So
could
you
answer
for
stakeholders
who
are
listening
in
and
caring
about
prevailing
wage
or
other
labor
requirements?
We
might
want
to
see.
AA
Sure-
and
let
me
say,
council
member,
when
we
were
agendizing
this,
we
were
really
debating
on
how
to
characterize
it,
whether
it
should
be
just
discussion
at
this
point
in
time
or
if
we
should
put
it
down
as
a
first
reading.
If
there
was
enough
support
for
that.
So
that's
actually
what
we
went
with,
but
we're
flexible
and
can
bring
it
back
for
first
reading
in
September
now
in
terms
of
prevailing
wage.
What
we
typically
do
in
our
agreements
is,
we
don't
make
a
recommendation
on
prevailing
wage.
AA
D
AA
G
D
AA
F
If
I
can
just
answer
some
questions,
because
this
actually
was
ER
at
the
urging
of
the
hospitality
industry
several
months
ago,
so
they've
known
that
this
this
was
coming
here
and
they
asked
for
the
extension
is
really
all
that
they've
asked
for
and
so
I
don't
want
to
delay
it
too
much,
because
a
lot
of
them
are
making
plans
for
renovations
either
to
start
this
year
or
even
if
it's
next
year,
they
got
to
do
it
well
in
advance.
So
they
have
really
pushed
to
have
this
through
where
I
think
the
confusion
came.
F
They
did
not
have
that
opportunity
before
the
only
issue
that
remains
is
that
they
only
have
five
years
of
a
share
period
and
if
they
don't
get
their
money
back
then
then
it's
on
them,
and
so
my
one
thing,
my
one
suggestion
is
that
we
changed
that
share
period
to
10
years,
the
same
as
the
other
hotels,
and
now
we've
basically
have
taken
the
existing
program,
extended
it
and
allowed
hotels
that
were
vacant
to
participate
that
that
and
I
have
that
correct.
Jay.
F
Well,
okay
and
I
did
I
have
reached
out
on
multiple
meetings
saying
this
was
coming
and
asked
for
input
and
they
all
looked
at
the
last
ordinance
and
I
think
they
were
no
one
had
any
negative
comments
on
it.
So
I
mean
I
can't
speak
for
every
single
Hotel
you're
out
there,
but
I
did
ask
them
on
multiple
occasions,
just
just
to
make
that
clear.
So
that
would
be.
F
A
W
A
A
Thank
you.
The
next
item
is
public
comment
on
non-agenda
items.
As
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
city
council
on
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
city,
although
the
city
council
values
your
in
your
comments
pursuant
to
the
brown
act,
it
generally
cannot
take
action
on
any
items
not
listed
on
the
agenda.
Two
minutes
will
be
assigned
to
each
speaker.
The
first
speaker
is
Bruce
Clark.
A
AD
Yes,
Madam
members
of
city
council
just
to
I,
want
to
go
over
very
briefly
a
couple
things.
One
is
the
tentative
upcoming
meeting
schedule
you'll
see
and
for
the
Public's
knowledge
we
will
be
on
our
summer
recess
for
the
month
of
August
and
the
next
city
regular
meeting
the
city
council
will
be
September
14th.
AD
We
do
have
a
number
of
consent
items
that
aren't
listed
here,
but
from
the
business
items
standpoint
you'll
note
that
we're
we'll
be
presenting
our
annual
zoning
code
update
staff
are
working
on
some
amendments
to
the
Las
Palmas
historic
district
will
be
presented,
we're
bringing
back
the
sidewalk
vending
ordinance.
We
have
some
agreements,
we're
working
on
with
Coachella
Valley
Economic
partnership
that
we
want
to
present
to
you
and
so
we'll
be
going
over
those
items.
AD
And,
of
course,
as
we
talked
about
earlier,
we
do
want
to
adopt
the
housing
element
by
that
second
meeting
in
September,
so
we'll
be
coming
back
to
that
point
as
well.
I
do
want
to
mention
just
for
the
public.
I
know.
Council
members
know
this,
but
in
the
last
couple
weeks
we've
appointed
a
new
Finance
director
to
the
city,
Christopher
Mooney
was
promoted
to
that
position.
AD
I'll
have
both
of
them
here
to
properly
introduce
them
to
the
city
council
to
all
of
you
and
I
do
want
to
say,
are
acting
Chief
Building
official
who's,
our
contract,
Cheap
Building
official
Mr,
Peter
Lim
I,
see
him
still
sitting
out
there
in
the
audience.
For
the
whole
meeting
he's
been
doing
a
great
job
with
us.
He's
works
for
four
leaf,
he'll
be
staying
on
with
us
for
a
little
bit
helping
Dana
with
the
transition.
AD
R
F
F
Item
and
then
I
have
a
few
announcements
go
ahead.
Okay,
so
first
I
did
want
to
remind
the
public
that
on
Tuesday
August
1st
at
council
chambers
at
6
30
p.m.
There
is
going
to
be
a
Southern
California
Edison
power
talk
to
learn
about
their
outage
process,
including
notifications
and
resources.
I
would
encourage
the
community
to
get
involved.
F
You
can
there's
a
registration
Link
at
scepowertalk.eventbrite.com,
but
that
will
be
at
City
at
City
chain
at
council
chambers,
Tuesday
August
1st
at
6
30.
I
did
also
want
to
mention
that
we
currently
have
our
2023-24
event
sponsorship
and
grant
program.
Applications
are
live.
They
are
due
no
later
than
6
pm
on
Thursday
August
17th,
and
that
is
a
grant
program
for
Palm,
Springs,
nonprofits
or
those
non-profits
doing
providing
services
in
our
city,
and
you
can
find
that
in
the
city's
website
in
the
spotlight
on
the
home
page
and
again,
the
the
spot.
F
A
No
okay,
just
one
thing
a
couple
things
for
me:
we
got
some
national
media
attention
on
Sunday
I
was
interviewed
by
Martha
raddatz
on
this
week
about
the
extreme
heat
that
we're
not
only
seeing
in
Palm
Springs
but
across
the
country
and
in
fact,
I,
don't
think
we're
seeing
as
much
extreme
heat
in
Palm
Springs
as
we
have
in
years
past.
So
but
it's,
but
it
was
still
a
great
opportunity
to
talk
about
climate
change
and
the
Heat
and
what
we
can
do
to
address
it.
A
But
I
just
wanted
to
mostly
thank
everybody
for
all
of
their
assistance,
because
it
was
a
five-minute
interview
and
it
took
an
extreme
amount
of
time
to
prepare,
and
so
our
city
manager,
Scott,
Stiles,
Denise
Goolsby
you'll
be
Rios
standing
desalms
one
Michelle
Finney
Todd
Burke
Lauren
bergamans
Kathy,
wermuk,
RG,
Vargas,
Nancy
Andrade.
All
of
these
people
spent
time
on
their
weekend
to
make
sure
that
I
was
well
prepared
and
that
my
hair
and
my
makeup
was
done
to
be
on
national
TV,
which
is
just
a
really
really
cool.
A
A
And
then
just
want
to
let
everyone
know
that
our
nine
cities
challenge
for
blood
drive
is
happening
right
now.
So
we
have
a
blood
drive
about
this
Wednesday
July
26th
from
7
30
to
3
30
at
the
Palm
Springs
police
training
center,
so
be
a
lover
and
donate
blood.
There's
no
bad
blood
here
and
if
you
get
a
little
squeamish,
it's
okay,
you'll
Shake,
It
Off
and
you
might
even
win
two
tickets
to
the
August,
9th
Taylor
Swift
concert
at
Sofi
stadium.