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Okay,
now
we
are
at
public
comments.
This
is
a
time
that's
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
Planning
Commission
on
a
consent,
calendar
and
other
agenda
items
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
Commission.
Please
note
that
the
Commission
is
prohibited
from
taking
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
Three
minutes
is
allowed
for
each
speaker.
A
If
you
are
here
on
item
2a,
that
is
a
public
hearing
item
and
you
have
your
able
to
test
and
we
are
reopening
that
public
hearing.
It
was
an
item
on
our
last
meeting.
So
if
you're
here
on
the
text
amendment,
you
can
comment
in
public
comment
or
during
the
public
hearing
on
that
item,
if
you're
here
for
4a,
which
is
the
major
architectural
for
a
house
in
the
desert
Palisades,
this
would
be
the
time
that
you
would
speak
during
the
public
comment
period.
A
G
Hi
I'm
Brett
woods
I'm
the
owner,
and
we
are
the
architecture
firm
for
the
house.
The
presentation
for
the
house
and
the
desert
Palisades
I,
want
to
quickly
give
you
a
little
bit
of
a
background
on
the
house.
We
have
just
went
through
the
AAC
and
the
home
is
a
single-family
home
at
3,800
square
foot,
single-family
home
that
we
are
proposing
for
our
family.
G
G
G
G
The
last
thing
that
I
would
like
to
mention
really
about
the
house.
Is
that
the
you
can
you
would
see
that
the
house
itself
lifts
itself
off
of
the
off
of
the
natural
terrain.
In
this
specific
plan,
constantly
they're,
mentioning
making
sure
the
house
has
a
small
footprint
or
actually
respects
the
existing
native
terrain,
the
house
does
just
that.
G
You
will
see
that
there
are
two
locations
of
the
master
and
that
the
main
public
space
where
they
lift
up
and
they
let
the
natural
ro
arroyos,
run
underneath
the
house
again
kind
of
respecting
that
natural
terrain.
Also,
the
house
itself
is
not
a
stepped
house.
It
sits
on
one
story.
You
will
see
that
it
steps
down
from
the
street.
So
therefore,
one
side
of
the
house
is
on
grade
because
the
property
is
for
the
most
part
pretty
flat
and
then,
as
it
moves
away
to
the
east,
the
the
house
stays
flat.
G
A
H
D
F
A
That
carries
six-zero
with
one
absent.
The
next
item
is
item
2a.
It's
a
city
of
Palm
Springs
for
a
request
to
consider
a
zone
text
amendment
to
a
man,
Palm
Springs
zoning
code,
section
nine,
one
point:
zero:
zero
point:
one:
zero,
nine
2.0
9.0
one
and
nine
2.0
9.02
to
allow
grocery
stores
within
the
central
business
district
and
to
provide
for
other
minor
modifications
and
Corrections.
A
E
Chair
and
members
of
the
Commission,
to
give
you
some
background
on
this
proposed
zone
text
amendment
the
city's
council's
Subcommittee
on
business
retention,
met
a
couple
of
months
ago
and
among
a
number
of
items
that
they
discussed.
One
of
the
things
they
talked
about
was
the
importance
of
having
grocery
stores
available
to
our
residents.
Our
city's
general
plan
talks
about
the
need
to
have
grocery
stores
in
the
downtown
area.
E
What
is
unfortunate
is
that
our
zoning
code
specifically
prohibits
grocery
stores
in
the
downtown
area,
and
so
that
was
the
genesis
of
this
zone
text
amendment
that's
before
you
today.
What
we
are
proposing
is
to
allow
grocery
stores
that
are
under
fifteen
thousand
square
feet
in
area
as
a
permitted
use
and
grocery
stores
over
fifteen
thousand
square
feet
in
area
as
a
conditional
use
in
the
CBD
or
central
business
district
zone.
E
E
For
example,
we
have
a
list
of
very
specific
retail
uses
which
in
cases
are
archaic
or
out-of-date,
and
so
what
I'm
proposing
to
do
is
to
condense
those
all
down
under
a
single
category
of
retail
use
and
in
a
similar
fashion,
personal
service
uses
such
as
dry
cleaners,
hair
salons
tailors
shoe
repair
rather
than
listing
all
of
those
individually
I've
collapsed,
those
all
into
a
single
category.
So
with
that,
you
will
see
that
we
are
trying
to
streamline
the
list
of
uses
and
simplify
that
as
well.
E
At
our
discussion
on
April
the
25th,
we
received
public
comment
about
the
possibility
of
including
animal
kennels
as
a
permitted
use
in
the
downtown
area.
The
Planning
Commission
discussed
the
topic
and
requested
that
staff
come
back
with
additional
information
on
that.
In
addition,
we've
received
to
public
comment
letters
on
the
issue
which
were
included
in
the
back
up
for
your
package
here
today.
Let
me
just
discuss
briefly
how
we
treat
animal
kennels
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
First
of
all,
there
is
currently
a
dog
daycare
facility
in
the
downtown
area.
E
It's
a
rural
zone
and
they
do
allow
animal
kennels
in
that
zone
upon
the
approval
of
a
conditional
use.
Permit
I
failed
to
include
one
of
the
cities
LaQuinta.
A
question
was
raised
as
to
where
they
allow
kennels
in
LaQuinta
from
the
information
I
was
able
to
pull
off
of
their
online
zoning
code,
similar
to
the
other
cities
in
the
Coachella
Valley.
E
Just
generally
is
an
animal
kennel
and
appropriate
use
in
the
central
business
district,
while
it
potentially
could
be
with
a
number
of
restrictions.
Just
based
on
my
experience,
I
would
recommend
against
it.
There
are
a
number
of
reasons
why
I
would
provide
that
recommendation
to
you
number
one
is
relative
to
potential
noise,
not
only
from
the
animal
kennel,
but
we
have
entertainment
uses
in
the
downtown
area
that
may
impact
the
animals
in
the
kennel
facility
itself.
E
So
there
is
that
consideration
with
the
waste
that
is
generated
by
the
kennel
facility
for
a
daycare
facility-
that's
relatively
minimal,
but
when
you
start
doing
24-hour
care
that
becomes
a
little
bit
more
problematic
and
so
I
do
have
concerns
professionally.
On
that
standpoint,
and
then
another
issue
is
relative
to
impacts
to
adjacent
businesses.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
the
kennel
can
be
adequately
soundproof
so
that
it
doesn't
impact
adjacent
stores
and
then
finally,
making
sure
that
we
have
enough
area
for
the
animals
themselves.
E
I've
provided
some
standards
in
your
packet,
but
typically
with
urban
properties.
It
doesn't
offer
outdoor
space
or
the
type
of
large
indoor
space
that
may
be
nestled
necessary
for
animals
to
exercise
and
to
have
that
type
of
activity.
So,
for
those
reasons
generally,
I
don't
feel
it
to
be
a
good
practice.
E
E
Examples
of
such
ordinances
from
the
city
of
Burbank
and
the
city
of
Newport
Beach,
where
it
addresses
things
that
we
typically
don't
include
in
a
zoning
ordinance
such
as
the
welfare
of
the
animals,
the
construction
of
the
facility.
Things
like
that,
and
so
that
would
be
my
recommendation
to
you
today.
E
If
you
are
to
consider
animal
kennels
as
a
permitted
use
that
we
do
two
things
number
one,
we
would
amend
the
zoning
code
to
require
it
to
be
a
conditional
use
permit
and
then,
secondly,
pursue
amending
the
municipal
code
to
add
basic
standards
for
kennels
generally.
So
that
concludes
my
presentation
in
terms
of
the
animal
kennels.
One
of
the
other
things
that
the
Planning
Commission
had
requested
at
their
last
meeting
was
that
I
provide
you
with
a
strikeout,
underlined
or
red
line
version
of
the
ordinance
to
show
how
I
am
condensing
the
uses.
E
How
I
am
stream
in
the
ordinance
I
emailed
a
copy
of
that
to
you
on
Monday
and
then
provided
a
hard
copy
of
that
with
you
here
today
and
if
you'd
like
I,
can
go
into
some
additional
detail
as
we
get
to
questions
of
staff
on
those
particular
changes.
But
that
concludes
my
presentation.
As
the
chair
has
mentioned,
the
public
hearing
has
been
reopened.
E
Let
me
clarify
that
the
other
jurisdictions
in
some
cases
don't
have
those
basic
standards
either.
What
we
typically
find
is
that
in
smaller
jurisdictions,
smaller
cities,
because
they
have
so
few
kennel
facilities,
there's
not
really
a
need
to
adopt
the
minimum
standards
that
they
typically
review,
those
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
larger
cities
I
believe
in
do
has
those
standards
in
place
and
the
other
cities
that
I
had
indicated
from
Los
Angeles
County
Orange
County
have
minimum
standards
in
place,
seeing.
H
E
H
C
C
C
Thank
you
for
that
and,
finally,
in
terms
of
the
grocery
stores,
this
is
more
going
from
planning
to
urban
design,
and
that
is
I
would
have
a
concern
about
a
grocery
store,
for
instance,
in
the
main
part
of
the
pedestrian
area
of
Palm
Canyon.
If
there
was
a
large
frontage
of
that
grocery
store
on
Palm,
Canyon,
say
two
or
three
hundred
feet
or
five
hundred
feet,
because
it
would
stifle
pedestrian
activity
in
that
area
and
I
notice.
We're
qualifying
certain
things
in
this
proposal,
ie
the
size
of
grocery
stores.
C
E
And
that's
a
good
thing
to
ask
a
good
question
to
ask
obviously
with
your
larger
big-box
stores,
they
aren't
as
pedestrian
friendly
generally
as
the
smaller
retail
shops.
And
so
your
question
in
terms
of
frontage
is
a
good
one.
There's
a
couple
of
different
ways
to
address
that
number
one.
You
can
do
it
through
either
limiting
the
square
footage.
For
example,
what
you
might
look
at
is
rather
than
having
15,000
square
feet,
be
the
cutoff
may
be.
E
The
cutoff
should
be
7,500
square
feet
that
keeps
it
at
a
reasonable
size
that
it's
not
going
to
occupy
as
much
frontage
or
impact
the
pedestrian
realm.
The
other
way,
as
you
suggest,
is
to
limit
it
by
storefront
that
grocery
stores,
with
a
frontage
of
less
than
let's
say
a
hundred
feet,
for
example,
would
be
permitted,
buy
right
and
those
over
a
hundred
feet
would
either
be
a
land
use
permit
or
a
conditional
use
permit.
So
there's
a
couple
of
ways
to
do
that,
but
again
I
think
your
comment
is
a
good
one.
C
You
threw
out
the
number
100
feet
is
that
kind
of
is,
you
know
not
current
on
sort
of
current
planning,
quite
not
requirements,
but
strategies
for
maintaining
an
urban
environment.
Is
that
something
I'm
not
saying
you'd
recommend
necessarily,
but
is
that
a
number
that
would
be
appropriate
for
that?
It's.
E
A
number
that
I
just
selected
for
the
purposes
of
our
discussion,
I
I,
think
we
could
refine
that
by
saying
you
know
thinking
how
long
a
block
is.
For
example,
a
standard
block
is
about
400
feet.
Long
100
feet
would
be
1/4
of
that
frontage.
I
think
you
could
probably
go
up
to
about
150
or
200
feet.
Okay,
before
you
want
to
look
at
having
them
go
through
some
type
of
a
conditional
use
permit
process
where
we
can
look
at
the
impacts
to
the
pedestrian
experience.
Thank.
E
Came
up
through
the
City
Council
Subcommittee
on
business
retention,
they
had
a
meeting
a
couple
of
months
ago
where
the
issue
of
access
to
food
was
discussed.
There's
a
concept
in
in
the
planning
community
called
food
deserts
where
neighborhoods
don't
have
access
to
fresh
foods
and
trying
to
overcome
that
and
correct
that
the
downtown
area
is
one
of
those
areas
and
by
virtue
of
our
zoning
code,
it
specifically
prohibits
grocery
stores.
Do.
A
D
E
Was
the
way
that
City
Council
had
approved
those
uses
back
in
December
of
2017
and
what
they
did
was
they
allow
the
two
different
uses?
One
is
the
dispensary
use,
the
other
is
the
lounge
use.
Now,
while
they
don't
require
a
conditional
use
permit,
they
are
permitted
uses.
One
of
the
things
that
we
have
to
look
at
in
the
specific
standards
for
cannabis
uses
is
separation,
distances
and
proximity
to
protected
uses,
so
that's
kind
of
a
natural
factor
that
helps
to
control
those
uses.
If
you
will
so.
D
E
D
And
those
are
operating
conditions
where,
if
they
don't
abide
by
those
conditions,
exactly
John,
okay,
exactly
the
other
question
I
have
as
I
noticed,
we
didn't
have
visitors
center.
Here
we
have
library.
We
have
currently
have
a
library
visitor
center
with
there
being
a
projected
objection
or
is
it
redundant
to
add
visitor
center?
It.
D
E
Is
correct?
The
only
way
that
we
allow
them
is
where
they
are
specifically
permitted,
you'll
see
under
the
uses,
prohibited
drive-in
and
drive-thru
facilities.
The
reason
for
that
again,
this
is
a
pedestrian
district,
and
so
auto
oriented
users
should
be
outside
of
the
central
business
district.
I
believe
the
one
instance
where
we
allow
it
is
for
Bank
facilities
if
I
remember
correctly
financial
institutions,
but
that's
by
a
conditional
use
permit,
and
so
that
does
go
through
a
public
review
process
and.
E
D
E
F
It's
thank
you
for
the
red
line
and
which
allowed
me
to
come
up
with
a
whole
bunch
of
more
questions,
starting
with
antique
shops
and
I
noticed
that
there's
various
sort
of
places
where
we
sell
old
goods,
zero
distinction
between
use
goods
stores
and
antique
shops
and
then
pawn
shops,
and
you
can
also
think
about
consignment
stores
right
I,
don't
think
I
mentioned
there.
But
a
lot
of
we
have
a
lot
of
people
that
sell
on
consignment
downtown
now.
E
Yes,
there
is
a
distinction
between
those
uses
in
terms
of
how
we
would
allow
that
we
have
many
uses,
especially
in
our
uptown
design
district,
where
they're
selling
things
such
as
vintage
furniture
or
mid-century,
modern
furniture
and
ephemera,
and
things
like
that.
Those
would
be
covered
under
our
general
definition
of
antique
shops,
because,
typically
most
of
those
items
are
50
years
old
or
older,
and
so
that
fits
under
the
definition.
E
For
that
purpose,
consignment
would
be
allowed.
We
do
have
a
definition,
I
believe
for
thrift
store
which
separates
out
the
donation
of
goods
for
some
type
of
a
charitable
organization
as
having
to
be
in
other
districts
in
the
city,
and
so
we
have
kept
this
rather
focused
I,
think
on
uses
that
are
appropriate
in
downtown
area
and
this
and
the
Design
District
the
Uptown
design
as
well
thinking.
E
E
F
E
Actually
is
a
very
good
point.
One
of
the
things
that
we
might
consider
is
in
the
section
on
conditional
use
permits
what
we
might
do
as
any
retail
store
greater
than
X
number
of
square
feet
in
area
to
require
a
conditional
use
permit
to
address
the
same
things
that
mr.
Hirsh
plane
brought
up
earlier
in
terms
of
the
pedestrian
realm
and
experience,
and
so
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
suggestion
and
something
that
we
might
include.
I.
F
Went
through
here
to
try
to
find
where
make
sure
everything
was
covered,
one
way
or
another
and
under
under
one
item
we
had
the
just
under
grocery
stores.
We
had
the
other,
the
old
thing
we
had
private
clubs
and
condominiums
under
hotels.
How
did
that
get
addressed?
I
didn't
see
that
elsewhere.
What.
E
E
F
F
E
The
difference
between
the
two
you'll
find
that
under
the
land
use
permit
section,
we
allow
the
conversion
of
second
saury
office
space
to
residential
pile
and
use
permit
I'm,
proposing
to
allow
multi-family
residential
as
a
conditional
use
permit,
and
so
that
is
for
new
multi-family
residential
uses.
It's.
E
A
Had
a
couple
as
well
the
on
the
kennels
and
it's
on
page
four
permits
by
land
use
kennels
animal
daycare
facilities,
not
kennels
I.
Have
you
thought
about
limiting
that
to
outside
of
the
village
center
and
that
my
thinking
on
that
is
parking?
It's
a
pretty
highly
parked
use.
So
in
the
on
the
ends
where
we're
not
requiring
lots
and
lots
of
shorter,
the
village
center
I
believe
goes
to
Boris
Joe
from
barista
to
Amato
Amato.
A
E
In
terms
of
that,
as
you
suggest,
with
the
traffic
associated
with
the
kennel
daycare
facilities
I'm
sorry,
you
typically
have
a
pick-up
and
drop-off
times
associated
with
that.
So
you
need
to
accommodate
that
three
times
some
type
of
parking
lots
of
that
it
doesn't
occur
on
the
street
that
may
be
appropriate
to
limit
it
to
outside
of
the
historic
village
center
and
again
keep
it
on
the
periphery
of
our
central
business
district
and.
A
A
To
think
about,
seup
costs
more
money
flynn
reminded
me
that
it's
five
thousand
dollars
instead
of
one
thousand,
so
that
I
don't
think
we
want
to
put
as
many
things.
That's
that's
a
discussion
item.
I'd
want
you
to
see
what
your
thoughts
are
on
that
under
multi-family
residential
just
would
you
be
opposed
to
adding
the
word
new
to
multi-family
residential
yeah.
A
The
only
other
comment
that
I
had
is
that
our
the
way
we
handle
hotels
is
a
little
strange
and
I
know
it's
historic,
but
is
there
any
way
of
cleaning
that
up?
It
seems
to
me
that
if
a
hotel
is
coming
in
that's
possibly
because
of
parking
issues
that
should
really
be
a
land,
at
least
a
land
use.
Permit
I,
don't
know
what
your
thoughts
are
on
that.
What.
E
We
could
address
that
today
in
the
central
business
district
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
wrong
with
it
again.
It
has
a
different
character
than
the
other
districts
or
we
permit
hotel
uses
and
so
moving
that
from
the
permitted
uses
to
a
land
use.
Permit
I,
don't
think
would
be
an
issue
and
again
that
gives
us
the
ability
to
look
at
and
condition
the
specific
site
plan
for
those.
C
E
I
can't
provide
you
background
on
that.
That's
something
that
we've
had
in
our
code.
Historically
I
just
off
the
top
of
my
head
I
think
it
was
a
way
to
distinguish
our
full-time
hotel
uses
from
those
that
were
primarily
directed
to
our
winter
visitors,
where
they
were
having
cooking
accommodations.
But
again,
why
does
it
require
a
conditional
use
permit?
That
might
be
something
that
the
Planning
Commission
wants
to
address
is.
D
E
Didn't
feel
it
to
be
necessary.
Typically,
most
of
our
all
of
our
restaurants
have
beverage
service,
and
so
it's
accepted
as
accessory
or
a
standard
offering
at
our
restaurant
uses.
I
just
didn't
feel
that
it
was
necessary
same
thing
with
nightclubs
with
a
nightclub.
There
generally
is
going
to
be
dancing
so
again.
I
just
didn't
feel
that
we
need
to
enumerate
it
and
call
it
out.
Thank
you
at.
A
This
point:
what
I'd
like
to
go
to
is
the
pub
is
the
public
hearing
on
this.
This
is
since
there
is
the
applicant
is
the
city
and
we
have
heard
from
the
applicant.
What
we
would
like
to
do
is
hear
from
the
public.
You
have
three
minutes.
If
people
are
here
to
testify
in
this
item,
if
you
would
please
come
up.
A
F
A
A
A
C
Suggestion
to
broaden
it
to
any
retail,
because
really
it
is
about
the
frontage,
not
the
use
I'd
like
to
reduce
it
to
I.
Think
25
percent
of
a
400
foot
long
block
should
be
the
maximum,
so
that
gets
you
do
a
hundred
feet.
They
can
always
apply
for
relief
if
there's
some
special
circumstance,
but
any
use
over
a
hundred
feet.
I
think
we
should
look
at
what.
F
E
Land
use
permit
is
done
at
the
staff
level.
It's
a
ministerial
approval
again,
as
was
brought
up,
we
can
do
conditions
of
approval
associated
with
that.
The
cost
is
much
lower
than
the
conditional
use
permit
conditional
use.
Permit
is
a
public
hearing
comes
before
the
Planning
Commission,
and
the
application
fee
is
of
approximately
five
thousand
dollars
for
that
in.
C
H
D
E
Of
linear
feet,
linear
feet
generally,
not
I,
think
the
only
ones
that
would
come,
close,
West,
Elm
I
believe
is
less
than
a
hundred
feet
in
terms
of
its
frontage.
I
believe
is
also
approximately
100
feet
or
slightly
less
it's
right
around
that
vicinity,
but.
B
D
A
D
F
A
D
Necessarily
and
I'd
like
to
talk
about
that
just
just
a
bit
a
bit
and
why
we
even
need
a
square
footage
cap
to
move
it
to
a
Cu
P.
There's
many
examples
in
the
urban
environment
where
they
put
in
things
like.
If
you
look
in
downtown
Santa
Monica,
you
know
they
put
in
an
REI.
The
street
frontage
is
fantastic,
but
it
goes
up
or
back.
There
is
a
target
on
Santa
Monica
Boulevard
in
West,
Hollywood,
again,
a
huge
beautiful,
plaza.
You
go
in
and
it's
up
and
it's
back
it
actually
enhances
the
Biff.
It's.
D
A
D
H
If
I
can
answer
mr.
woods,
the
the
the
example
you
just
gave
is
very
innovative
and
creative,
but
it
there
is
a
lot
of
fine-tuning
to
make
sure
that
you've
got
a
very
limited
linear,
square-foot
frontage,
to
be
able
to
get
that
much
square
foot
in
the
back
of
it.
It's
something
that
would
take
some
thoughtful
logistical
planning.
I
would
think
and
something
that
we
as
a
as
a
commission
would
want
to
look
at
because
it
would
be
novel
and
creative
and
innovative,
but
it
could
be
also
very
disruptive.
I.
D
E
If
it
is
going
into
an
existing
space,
the
chances
are
that
you
typically
would
not
see
that
in
front
of
Planning
Commission.
It's
only
new
construction
that
you
would
see
come
before
you
and
so,
for
example,
where
it
is
going
into
an
existing
building.
The
conditional
use
permit
is
a
way
to
bring
that
to
a
public
meeting
where
we
can
discuss
the
issues
of
how
that
large
footprint
retail
use
impacts
the
pedestrian
realm.
So
that's
certainly
something
that
can
be
considered
as
part
of
a
conditional
use
permit
and
again
for
existing
spaces.
E
That's
really
the
only
way
that
you
would
see
it.
On
the
other
hand,
for
new
build
new
construction,
we
would
see
a
major
architectural
that
would
come
through
the
Planning
Commission
and
that's
the
way
that
you
would
address
it
for
new
construction.
So
again,
it
just
depends
on
what
you
think
is
the
best
approach
to
take,
considering
that
there
are
new
construct,
there's
new
construction
and
then
also
existing
spaces
that
could
be
filled.
C
A
C
Support
Commissioner,
Donna
Phil's
analysis
and
you
know
I
think
our
downtown
is
a
fairly
modest
scaled
retail
environment.
It's
not
as
large
as
West
Hollywood's.
It's
not
as
the
blocks
aren't
as
large
same
with
I
believe
with
Santa
Monica
and
and
and
it's
a
little
finer,
finer,
scaled
and
I.
Think
15,000
is
a
good
cutoff.
I
think,
above
that
we
would
kind
of
want
to
have
a
bite
at
the
Apple
to
make
sure
that
it's
functioning
in
a
way
that
we
would
be
happy
with.
As.
A
A
Let
me
take
next
I
think
was
the
animal
daycare
facilities
or
kennels
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
comment
on
that
I
support
the
staff
report.
I
do
think
at
some
point.
We
need
a
ordinance,
but
in
the
downtown
kennels
animals
are
staying
there
for
multiple
days
and
they
do
need
outdoor
facilities
which,
although
you
could
operate
a
kennel
entirely
indoors,
I
think
it
would
be
very
hard
to
operate
it.
A
It
wouldn't
be
a
kennel
I
would
take
my
dog
too,
but
there
were
no
outdoor
facilities,
so
I
wanted
to
I
think
it's
fine
to
leave
the
animal
daycare
facilities.
I
would
suggest
and
I
don't
know
if
I
get
support
for
both
of
these
moving,
that
to
the
areas
that
they
actually
are,
which
is
outside
of
the
historic
village
center,
and
it's
would
be.
It
still
would
be
an
Lu
P,
but
it
would
be
in
areas
where
parking
where
deliver.
A
For
the
daycares,
and
both
the
daycares
that
have
come
downtown
have
been
and
saying
that
I
really
appreciate,
with
the
grand
cause
doing
but
I
think
we're
looking
at
something
broader
in
terms
of
what's
right
for
our
city.
So
I
don't
know
if
people
agree
with
me
on
both
of
those
moving
it
to
the
village
center,
keeping
it
in
lu,
p
and
keeping
it
the
way
staff
has
written
it.
I
would.
H
A
Residential,
you
were
you
had
it
with
the
Cu
P
new
multi-family
residential
one
question
for
you
Flint.
You
had
conversions
on
second
floor
spaces.
If
somebody
was
coming
in
with
a
second
and
above
if
they
were
coming
in
with
a
approved
retail
use,
it
was
new,
but
they
wanted
to
do
residential.
On
the
second
floor,
do
you
still
feel
like
that
needs
yupi?
I.
E
The
question
is
in
terms
of
the
use:
do
you
want
to
address
how
residential
may
or
may
not
be
impacted
by
yes,
adjacent
entertainment
and
commercial
uses?
So
there
are
some
questions
of
impacts
that
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
I,
don't
know
that
it
necessarily
has
to
be
done
through
a
conditional
use
permit
process,
but
that's
fairly
typical,
where
you
have
residential
in
urban
areas
that
you
use
a
conditional
use.
Permit.
A
F
A
A
D
Chair
I
just
like
to
propose
that
item
on
page
seven
item
d8
be
removed
and
that
states
financial
institutions
with
drive-thru
facilities
we
already
allow
financial
institutions.
There
is
no
drive
through
downtown
I,
don't
think
it's
appropriate
to
have
any
drive-thru
in
our
downtown
business
court.
My.
A
C
A
E
C
D
A
E
F
A
E
E
A
A
A
I
Thank
you
chair
this
project,
as
you
mentioned,
is
in
the
desert
palisade
specific
plan.
The
Planning
Commission
is
charged
with
reviewing
this
project
against
several
guidelines
that
include
the
hillside,
development
guidelines,
architectural
review
of
the
plan
of
the
zoning
code
and
then
within
the
desert,
Palisades
specific
plan.
There
are
development
standards,
standards
for
architecture
and
site
design
and
also
landscaping
guidelines
within
the
specific
plan.
So
the
project
before
you
is
for
a
1,300
square
foot
house
located
at
lot
three
of
the
desert
Palisades
project,
which
is
at
the
entrance
to
the
development.
I
So
in
describing
the
site
plan,
the
proposed
home
will
be
located
in
a
lot
that
slopes
downward
roughly
12
feet
from
the
west
to
the
east
for
an
from
an
elevation
of
899
feet
to
887
feet.
So,
looking
at
the
slide,
that's
before
you
here,
the
upper
left
side
is
the
high
side
and
the
lower
side
to
the
bottom
of
the
slide
is
the
lower
side.
I
So
this
is
a
design
that
is
superimposed
over
top
of
the
topography
of
the
site
and,
as
you
can
see,
there
are
two
Aurora's
that
run
through
the
middle
of
both
sides
of
the
property
with
to
the
east
side
or
to
the
the
right
side
of
the
slide.
There's
a
large
boulder
berm,
which
delineates
the
perimeter
of
the
desert
Palisades
project.
I
I
When
we
look
at
mass
and
scale
of
the
project,
the
house
is
proposed,
I
mean
turn
to
a
slide
at
sixteen
feet:
seven
inches
as
measured
from
the
downslope
side
of
the
project.
Let
me
bring
up
a
slide
that
shows
the
orientation
of
the
house,
so
in
this
slide
from
the
downs
portion
of
the
slope
of
the
house
to
the
top
of
the
concrete
block
is
16
feet.
7
inches.
When
you
look
at
the
at
grade
site,
the
maximum
height
of
the
house
is
10
feet:
3,
3,
inches
tall.
I
The
house
is
broken
into
2
different
wings.
There's
a
east
wing
and
a
west
wing
each
one
of
these.
How
these
wings
is
one
story
and
contains
living
areas,
kitchen
areas,
several
bedrooms
and
guest
rooms.
So
we
look
at
the
mass
the
scale.
The
desert.
Palisades
project
has
what's
called
a
pillow
window
area,
which
is
the
maximum
height
that
can
be
within
a
desert.
Palisades
house
is
18
feet,
so
the
proposed
project
at
16
feet,
7
inches
at
the
highest
point,
does
fit
within
this
pillow
area
and
meets
that
standard.
I
The
house
is
contemporary
design.
Building
materials
include
masonry,
CMU
block
of
a
natural
gray,
color,
smooth
plastered
of
grey
Corten,
steel,
aluminum
windows
and
door
frames
of
a
bronze,
color
and
--pay
material
for
the
pool
and
spa
decking
and
the
roof
will
be
tan.
I
had
dropped
off
the
material
board
with
Commissioner
Keller
Dean
that
we
can
pass
around.
You
can
see
what
the
materials
are.
I
So
in
the
landscaping
proposed
for
the
project,
there
is
a
row
of
Palo
Verde
trees
at
the
the
west
side
of
the
project
and
various
desert
plantings
that
are
throughout
the
site.
The
desert,
palisade
specific
plan
does
include
a
specific
plant
list
that
is
required
on
the
the
site
and
the
proposed
plan
conforms
to
that.
Those
standards
for
landscaping.
I
In
your
packet
there
is
a
series
of
3d
drawings
that
show
the
orientation
of
the
house.
I
would
like
to
draw
your
attention
to
the
left
hand,
side,
there's
a
brown
sort
of
rectangular
box.
This
is
the
area
that
will
contain
all
of
the
equipment,
the
pool
equipment,
heating,
air
conditioning
equipment.
I
The
motor
court
that
will
come
in
to
the
site
is
a
driveway
that
will
come
off
of
winter
Sun
Drive.
The
desert
Palisades
project
requires
that
the
driveway
entrance
be
no
wider
than
twelve
feet,
they're,
actually
proposing
a
10
foot
wide
driveway
that
opens
up
to
a
28
foot
wide
motor
Court
and
that
motor
Court
is
measured
from
the
the
very
side
of
the
the
right
side
of
the
property
to
the
garage
entrance.
I
So
the
desert
Palisades
plan
requires
that
these
homes
have
a
garage
that
does
not
front
the
street.
That's
why
the
the
garage
is,
at
a
90
degree,
angle
to
the
street
and
most
of
the
houses
that
are
in
Desert
Palisades,
actually
they're.
Only
three
have
the
same
sort
of
motor
court
condition
where
the
you
drive
down
a
driveway
and
you
make
a
turn
into
the
garage.
I
So
the
architectural
visor
committee
reviewed
this
project
on
April
16
2018,
and
they
had
several
recommendations
to
the
Planning
Commission
one
was
that
they
wanted
to
look
at
reducing
this
motor
court
area.
It
was
a
comment
that
came
up
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
end
of
the
discussion
about
they.
One
member
felt
that
the
motor
Court
was
too
large.
I
I
So
this
slide
shows
the
detail
from
winter
Sun
Drive,
which
is
to
the
left.
The
house
is
set
back
more
than
25
feet
from
the
street
and
there'll
be
a
boulder,
berm
or
natural
landscaping,
and
then
there's
an
proposed
CMU
wall
a
little
bit
of
a
planter
area
and
then
the
pool
and
then
the
deck,
the
spa
and
the
house.
So
the
the
AC
was
mostly
concerned
about
how
this
wall
would
be
viewed
from
the
street.
I
I
So
the
the
street
is
to
the
top
end
of
the
of
this
slide,
showing
the
pool
the
wall,
the
driveway
and
in
the
street.
The
AC
also
recommended
the
roof.
Color
not
be
white.
The
applicant
has
determined
that
the
roof
will
not
be
a
white
it'll,
be
a
tan
color
and
the
the
plant
a
sea
also
wanted
to
see
the
paver
color
for
the
motor
court
and
driveway,
which
will
be
a
tan
brown
color.
I
So,
within
your
staff
report
there
are
multiple
tables
that
have
evaluated
the
project
based
upon
the
desert.
Palisade
specific
plan
and
the
plan
is
proposed,
does
meet
all
of
these
standards
and
conditions.
The
project
was
reviewed.
The
desert
Palisades
project
was
reviewed
as
a
sequin
alysus
for
the
overall
project,
this
house
would
be
considered
exempt
and
a
notice
of
exemption
will
be
filed
once
the
Planning
Commission
has
completed
their
review.
I
There
are
minutes
of
the
AAC
meeting
that
are
in
your
packet.
There
are
some
additional
materials
that
were
distributed
to
you
today
and
they
include
the
additional
materials
which
is
the
the
cross
section
of
the
wall
in
the
street,
which
we,
which
was
the
last
slide,
that
we
looked
at.
There's
a
letter
from.
I
Attorney
Diane
Blaisdell,
which
planning
director
will
address,
and
there
is
also
a
set
of
photographs
that
were
submitted
today
by
the
applicant
and
what
these
photographs
show
are
other
motor
courts
within
the
desert.
Palisades
project,
mainly
the
O
to
house
which
is
just
down
the
street.
So
the
applicant
wishes
to
leave
the
at
the
motor
court
at
its
current
size,
and
that's
these
photographs
are
to
show
that
the
proposed
motor
Court
is
less
in
size
than
what
the
o2
house
currently
has
so
Matt
I'm
sure
that
concludes
my
report.
E
Chair
if
I
might
I
would
just
like
to
address
the
public
comment
letter
that
we
received
this
morning
and
has
been
provided
to
you
there
at
the
dais.
The
letter
is
objecting
to
the
participation
of
Commissioner
Awards
on
these
actions.
Desert
Palisades
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
the
city
attorney
mr.
Kotkin
has
reviewed
this
letter
and
has
opined
that
mr.
Woods
is
free
to
participate
in
this
discussions
that
he
is
not
prejudiced
in
terms
of
the
consideration
of
this
matter
and
again
is
free
to
participate
in
this
discussion
and
this
action.
Thank.
H
You
mentioned
Glen
that
the
utility
utilities
pool
equipment,
various
condensers
and
other
things
that
are
noisy
and
difficult
to
look
at
are
going
to
be
contained
in
what
appears
to
be
a
long,
rectangular
box.
Something
I've
never
quite
seen
before,
and
my
question
is:
is
it
a
self-contained
box?
Does
it
ventilate,
because,
obviously,
a
lot
of
this
equipment
will
need
ventilation?
How
is
it
supposed
to
work?
Oh.
I
The
original
application
had
the
this
equipment
mature
this
equipment
area
at
the
property
line
which
the
the
specific
plan
does
not
allow.
So
it
was
moved
and
in
this
slide
it's
it's
the
the
box
at
the
very
top
of
the
house.
Obviously
it'll
have
to
be
vented,
it's
not
doesn't
have
a
lid
on
it,
but
it
does
not,
but
it
will
have
sides
that
will
screen
it
from
when
the
next
house
comes
in
or
from
the
street.
What.
I
C
I
I
C
And
then
I'm
just
trying
to
find
the
other
comments.
Are
there
other
recommendations?
Oh
the
roof,
who
the
roof
they
agreed
to
rector
white
and
the
pool
while
they're,
showing
in
the
the
detail
section.
Does
that
into
your
recollection
of
the
AAC
comments?
Does
that
section
them
conform
to
what
you
think
they
were
looking
for
not.
I
I
I
I
The
AC
is
similar
to
the
Planning
Commission
their
deliberations
discussion.
It
was
not
brought
up
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting.
It
was
one
member
at
the
ends
felt
that
when
we
go
through
the
chair
asked
for
everyone
to
discuss
that
it
was
one
item
that
came
up
and
like
we
normally
do.
It
is,
is
recorded
and
as
a
recommendation
to
the
Planning
Commission.
So.
A
A
D
D
A
F
A
question
to
clarify
that
the
Commission
that
the
architectural
committee
is
concerned
on
that
wall
I
understand
they
were
concerned
about
the
way
that
the
building
would
look
with
the
pool
wall
and
the
major
major
CMU
I.
Guess
you
call
up
those
the
thick
walls
from
desert,
whatever
Wintersun
Drive
I?
Guess
it's
called:
do
we
really
have
a
drawing
that
shows
us
from
the
street?
F
A
A
I
A
Think
those
may
be
questions
next
for
the
applicant,
but
before
we
get
that
I
had
a
question
for
staff
on
the
there
was
an
additional
comment
on
the
motor
court
to
screen
it
from
headlights
and
I.
Don't
know
that
that
made
it
into
the
motion,
but
it
was
one
of
the
reasons
they
wanted
to
make
this
trees
a
little
bit
softer.
Has
that
been
addressed
at
all?
It.
A
I
I
A
I
A
A
I
H
I
I
A
G
So
so
maybe
it's
it's
best
that
we
start
with
the
motor
core,
since
this
happens
to
be
that
the
topic
of
conversation
at
this
point
and
certainly
happy
to
kind
of
walk
you
through
the
placement
of
the
property
or
the
actual
structure
and
the
motor
court
so
just
to
be
to
back
up
and
be
totally
clear
with
you
III.
The
comment
was
made
kind
of
in
the
eleventh
hour
of
the
discussion.
G
I,
don't
agree
with
the
comment,
obviously,
but
I'll
hopefully
can
talk
through
that
with
you
in
this
presentation,
so
the
actual
property
itself
for
this
specific
plan
is
really
supposed
to
challenge
the
applicant
or
the
designer
or
the
architect
to
delicately
touch
the
native
terrain,
and
so
the
difficulty
in
there
is
that
we
have
to
put
a
structure
but
also
having
the
responsibility
of
not
disrupting
that
terrain.
So
for
us
on
this
property,
a
lot
three,
we
looked
at
the
majority
of
the
Lots
lot.
G
Again,
because
a
specific
plan
is
pretty
clear
about
parking
and
it's
my
understanding
that
they
discourage
any
parking
I,
won't
let
people
park
on
the
side
of
the
street.
So
if
you
build
a
house
there
and
you
happen
to
have
guests-
come
over,
it's
difficult
to
have
them
parked
somewhere.
So
for
the
motor
port.
The
idea
was
that
we
would
obviously
have
ample
backup
space
per
code,
but
also
that
we
could
potentially
park
a
couple
other
cars.
G
If
we
had
guests
in
town
again,
these
pavers
would
be
a
tone
that
matches
the
kind
of
grant
granite
outcroppings
that
are
currently
inconsistent.
With
this
specific
plan,
the
house
itself
was
designed
to
not
step
most
of
the
homes
are
a
lot
of
the
homes
in
this
bizarre
that
are
going
to
be
coming
before
you
in
the
Palisades
they
step,
because,
depending
on
where
your
lot
is
located,
some
of
the
grading
and
terrain
can
be
fairly
steep
with
steep
arroyos.
G
This
property
allowed
for
us
to
really
kind
of
anchor
this
portion
of
the
house
as
slab
on
grade
based
on
the
current
conditions
on
site.
We
then
have
what
is
like
a
bridge
allowing
for
the
natural
Royals
that
are
in
this
location.
To
then
pick
up
and
pass
through
both
sides
of
the
home
you're.
Seen
in
you
can
see
in
the
model.
Actually,
it's
easier
to
kind
of
digest
and.
G
G
I
mean
the
specific
plan
is
very
well
written.
It's
it's!
Actually
it's
going
to
produce
some
amazing
architecture,
the
size
of
the
home
for
the
size
of
a
lot
right
can
exceeds
50%
covered
area,
and
so
we're
well
below
that,
and
so
I
think.
That's
something
that
I
wanted
to
at
least
say
in
this
presentation,
because
I
think
a
responsible
way
of
designing
on
these
Lots
is
not
to
so
maximize
them,
but
actually
kind
of
take
an
understated
approach
and
put
the
appropriate
amount
of
square
footage
on
these
Lots.
G
The
landscape
you'll
see
that
the
landscape
we
did
our
best
to
to
allow
for
the
landscape
to
be
as
native
to
its
surroundings
as
possible.
The
the
comment
about
the
trees
is:
is
I'm
sort
of
ambivalent
on
this
one,
because
I
didn't
agree
or
disagree
with
it.
It
just
it
was
a
comment.
I
tend
to
like
the
linear
nature
of
the
trees.
I
think
it
reinforces
the
architecture.
G
Regarding
the
the
headlights,
I
was
not
aware
of
that
of
that
concern.
I
know
a
lot
was
discussed,
it's
difficult
right
now
to
to
to
look
at
all
of
those
conditions,
because
there's
only
two
homes
built
there,
so
the
difficulty
is
guessing
what
this
neighbor
and
this
neighbor
are
going
to
design
right.
So
there's
a
challenge
there
and
view
corridors,
and
also
in
kind
of
questioning
where
headlights
are
going
to
be,
because
we
just
really
don't
know
where
those
homes
are
going
to
be
positioned.
G
The
kind
of
final
design
element
that
I
think
I
wanted
to
bring
up
in
this
presentation
is
talking
about
the
materials
of
the
project.
The
specific
plan
is
very
strict
and
rigid
in
the
material
palette
and
what
they
expect
from
their
applicants,
owners
and
architects,
and
for
us
it
was
important
to
not
just
draw
from
what
was
around
us
from
nature,
but
also
the
guard
house,
which
everybody
is
probably
familiar
with
at
this
point.
Just
won
a
award
Shaun
lot
here
did
a
fantastic
job
with
really
kind
of
stablishing,
a
archetype
language
that
you
know.
G
A
lot
of
people
are
now
following
inside
of
the
Palisades.
So
that
was
one
thing
and
the
other
thing
is
really
kind
of
finding
a
vernacular
architecture
that
represents
being
out
here
when
it's
110
degrees
and
how
those
materials
begin
to
evolve
or
devolve
over
time
and
so
I
think
what
you'll
see
what
the
material
palette
is
it
it's
it's
a
it's
a
delicate
balance
of
being
timeless,
but
also
being
rugged
enough
to
to
take
on
the
desert
sort
of
terrain
and
climate.
Oh.
A
G
So
by
code
you
need
at
least
three
feet
in
front
of
any
enclosure
for
whether
it's
an
air
conditioning
unit,
condenser
or
pool
equipment
for
for
anybody
to
work
on
it.
So
what
we've
done
is
is
again
as
Glenn
described.
We've
we've
moved
it
off
of
the
property
line,
put
it
in
the
it's.
What
would
be
considered
the
side
yard
and
the
material
is
a-courtin
that
within
relate
to
the
house,
so
it's
kind
of
drawing
that
language
back
to
the
facade.
G
The
conversation
becomes
quite
academic
as
to
to
what
is
right
and
wrong.
The
the
challenge
with
this
wall
really
is
that
the
majority
of
it
is
that
five
feet
below
based
on
based
on
bolder
grade,
but,
as
you
would
see,
as
a
wall
gets
closer
to
the
street,
it
does
become
compromised
in
that
height
and
it
is
less
than
five
feet.
G
It's
just
under
seven
feet,
but
but
to
be,
but
so
this
is,
this
is
what's
a
little
bit
different
is
that's
from
that's
from
native
terrain
right.
Our
house
already
steps
down
four
feet
so
from
street
level
that
you're
not
going
to
be
confronted
with
that
that
wall
I
think
that's
the
the
misconception
that
AAC
had.
They
didn't
understand
that
if
you're
standing
at
winter
Sun
drive
that
wall
is
not
seven
feet,
you're
actually
probably
viewing
it
more
like
three
feet,
because
you
we
step
because
we
were
trying
to
work
with
a
natural
terrain.
C
H
F
F
G
G
The
the
water
that
is
hitting
impervious
surfaces
such
as
roofs
that
are
then
directed
into
drainage
systems
into
the
Royals
there's
two
Royals
on
the
project
we
have
redirected,
although
the
rainwater
that
collects
in
the
roof
into
those
are
oils
down
at
the
bottom
of
each
of
oil
will
be
a
collection
pit.
So
that's
where
we're
doing
with
with
all
the
water
runoff
that
hits
our
property
well,.
F
F
G
G
F
G
G
G
So
we
have
one
here
that
runs
underneath
the
main
portion
of
the
building
of
the
public
space
like
the
kitchen
living
and
dining,
and
then
we
have
one
here
that
is
located
in
the
master.
So
you
can
see
that
in
this
location
we
have,
we
have
taken
an
opportunity
to
because
it's
zero
escaping
to
plants
in
those
locations
for
the
natural
runoff
and
then
also
in
this
location
as
well,
which
is
the
Arroyo
wraps
around
here
and
through
this
location.
So
there's
two
of
them
this
Arroyo
on
this
portion.
G
F
B
H
G
C
G
So
the
way
that
the
house
is
actually
positioned
is
that
it
will
get
some
morning.
Sun,
based
on
the
orientation,
though
that
it
that
Sun
will
be
will
get
around
that
house
before
the
Sun
does
actually
get
super
hot
and
started
actually
penetrating
that
that
glazing.
The
the
reality
is
that
we'll
never
be
able
to
protect
all
surfaces
in
the
desert
and
the
only
opportunity
to
have
the
majority
of
glazing
and
for
kind
of
vistas
or
view
portals
is
on
the
eastern
glazing.
So
we
really
took
advantage
of
that,
but
certainly
I
understand
your
concern.
G
B
G
A
court
in
so
it's
a
it's
a
material
that
doesn't
lose
its
structural
value
as
it
rests
of
galvanized,
is
going
to
rust
and
most
engineers
hate
that
by
the
water,
because,
as
a
truss,
it
loses
structural.
You
know,
capabilities,
Courtin
is
actually
it's
it's
designed
to
to
withstand
structural
capability
as
well.
It's
rusting
the
the
the
idea
of
Courtin
is
that
it
it's
it's
a
living
material
and
so
as
the
weather
changes
as
it
rains
as
it
gets
cold
and
we
get
do
in
the
air.
G
G
A
G
G
G
A
G
So
great
question
I
was
trying
to
put
that
my
presentation,
but
I
forgot
so
courts
in
today
there's
a
treatment
that
actually
stops
the
weeping
or
stops
the
oxidation
process.
So
typically
the
way
to
do
courts
in
today
is
they
set
it
out,
oxidize
it
they
control
it
with
a
brush
and
then
once
I
get
the
desired
texture.
We
then
finish
that
that
finished
then
stops
the
weeping
from
happening.
Look
the
the
guest
house
I
mean
the
gatehouse
it
you
go
up
to
it
today
has
no
weeping
on
a
Shawn
lock.
A
And
the
other
questions
I
have
concerned
the
AAC
comments,
I'm
actually
very
sympathetic
to
the
headlights,
question
and
also
the
tree
configurations.
So
if
you
could
put,
maybe
the
landscape
slide
back
up
if
you
were
to
change
the
linear
nature
of
the
trees
at
all,
where
would
you
put
them
and
are
you
willing
to
do
any
kind
of
treatment
that
would
block
the
only
area
where
I
think
the
headlights
could
be
a
problem?
Would
be
people
parking
there,
and
so
is
there
something
that
you
could
do
in
that
area?
G
Well,
to
address
the
tree
question
I
believe
in
our
discussions
that
the
AAC
it
was
really
kind
of
as
simple
as
taking.
Maybe
this
Center
tree
and
kind
of
putting
it
up
here,
so
it
was
more
irregular
again
I'm
fine
with
that.
For
me,
we
typically
when
we
design
we
like
to
use
trees
and
to
formalize
an
entrance
into
a
space.
G
This
again
is
kind
of
a
heavy-handed
approach
to
being
very
linear
and
reinforcing
the
architecture.
But
I
didn't
disagree
with
the
comment.
I'm
happy
to
kind
of
take
that
tree
and
move
it
up,
and
then
they
same
here
they
were
hoping
to
do
this,
the
same
with
that
tree
arrangement
regarding
the
headlights.
G
Obviously,
it's
good
to
be
neighborly
and
it's
good
to
be
aware
of
these
things,
and
so,
if
there
is
something
that
a
recommendation
for
the
headlights
I'm
happy
to
to
investigate
that
it's
it's
it's
a
difficult
conversation
because
I
again,
I,
don't
know
where
the
next
house
is
gonna,
be
it's,
and
so,
where
they're
gonna
put
their
driveway,
where
they're
gonna
put
their
house
and
how
to
situate.
It
are.
H
D
I,
you
know
I
see
in
the
the
board
what
the
driveway
material
is.
That's
both
the
driveway
and
the
parking
material
is
supposed
to
be
like.
Is
that.
G
F
Think
this
is
again
one
of
the
great
houses
of
Palm
Springs,
the
other
two
houses
up
there,
that
we've
approved
a
bit
spectacular
as
well,
but
this
will
be
and
worthy
addition,
I
think.
With
regard
to
the
headlight
problem,
we
might
simply
require
some
additional
landscaping
at
the
end
of
the
motor
court
to
decide.
I,
don't
think,
that's
a
problem.
I
couldn't
like
the
linear
trees,
but
I'm
not
likely
a
architect.
F
H
It's
a
terrific
project
again
we're
really,
although
as
controversial
as
desert
Palisades
has
been
over
the
years,
it's
spurring
some
incredibly
innovative
architecture,
and
this
is
treating
the
topography
beautifully
it's
sitting
beautifully.
I
would
prefer
a
linear
landscaping.
That's
just
my
more
modern
aesthetic
with
respect
to
the
headlight
issue.
What
I
was
going
to
say
earlier
is
in
keeping
with
a
spirit
of
the
design
guidelines
for
Pacific,
Palisades
I
think
we
want
to
keep
as
many
appurtenances
and
structures
away
from
the
project
as
possible.
H
If
you
built
a
wall
that
would
be
inappropriate,
I
would
think
for
something
like
that.
Perhaps
there's
an
innovative
way.
You
can
use
some
landscaping,
but
again
you
don't
want
to
over
landscape
this
site,
because
the
alluvial
fan
itself
isn't
land
that
well
landscaped,
so
I
think.
Maybe
it's
something
that
you'd
want
to
look
at
once.
You've
got
neighbors,
I,
really,
don't
think
it's
something
we
can
fix
now,
but
I'm
very
much
in
favor
of
the
project
overall
I
think
he's
done
a
great
job.
We.
B
C
E
C
I'd
like
to
echo
the
previous
comments
about
what
a
great
architectural
addition
this
will
be
to
our
community
and
unfortunately,
it's
not
going
to
be
seen
by
a
lot
of
people,
but
you
know
I'm
hoping
that
our
public
architecture
rises
to
this
level
in
the
future
as
well.
I
I,
don't
know
I
could
go
either
way.
Also
on
those
trees,
my
natural
inclination
would
be
to
make
it
more
random.
More
naturalized
I
get
the
linear
quality
because
of
the
house,
but
it's
not
the
house.
It's
it's.
B
F
I'd
like
to
make
one
I'd
like
to
move
the
staff
recommendation,
including
what
we
recently
discussed
regarding
staff
review
of
the
of
the
nature
of
Boulder
and
landscaping
at
the
end
of
the
edges
of
the
motor
court,
and
although
it
doesn't
I,
don't
thing
requires
a
motion
that
would
keep
it
linear,
it's
part
of
my
motion
and
then
what
they
can
obviously
have
an
amendment
at
that
point,
that
would
be
my
motion.
I
don't
do.
Is
there
anything
else
we
need
to
pick
up.
Madam
chair.
A
A
D
I
speak
I
just
have
a
couple
questions
of
staff
if
I
could,
under
the
conditions
of
approval,
I,
think
the
under
the
administrative
conditions
of
approval
that
there's
a
condition,
and
let
me
tell
you
the
number
just
so
they
divide
by
all
rules
and
regulations
and
then
there's
conditions
on
things
like
air
quality.
Things
of
that
nature.
D
Does
the
city
ever
do
a
construction
mitigation
plan
on
new
construction
where
they
submit
a
plan,
basically
to
the
city,
engineer
or
the
engineering
department,
and
they
review
making
sure
there's
not
other
construction
going
on
at
the
same
time
that
the
truck
schedule
is
when
do
the
hours
of
operation,
etc,
etc.
Right.
I
D
A
construction
mitigation
plan
with
it
compasses
a
lot
of
things
that
are
in
the
code
and
it
may
be
even
outside
of
the
codes
such
as
because
the
code
addresses
things
like
hours
of
operation
pm10
all
of
that,
but
it
may
not
address
three
projects
being
built
at
the
same
time.
Things
of
that
nature-
and
this
may
not
apply
I'm
just
asking
if
the
city
ever
adds
a
condition
for
a
constrictor
in
a
construction
mitigation
plan.
E
I
D
D
Age,
12,
six
and
13
of
26
on
12
of
26,
there's
number
four.
It's
called
driveways
and
parking
and
part
of
the
parking
was
to
minimize
the
impact
of
parking
from
the
streets,
visual
parking
from
the
street
and
then
number
five
is
that
they
don't
want
a
lot
of
cars
groups
together
to
make
it
appear
as
if
it's
a
parking
lot.
These
are
direct
conditions
from
the
specific
plan
and
I'm.
Just
going
back
to
the
AAC
comment
about
reducing.
D
Just
going
back
to
the
AAC
comment,
it
appears
when
you
look
at
this,
that
you're
going
to
park
two
cars
in
the
garage
on
site,
two
cars
in
front
of
the
garage
on
site,
two
cars
in
the
the
area
where
you're
talking
about
the
headlights
and
the
two
cars
straight
on
in
tandem,
which
gives
a
huge
parking
lot
to
this
whole
area
and
I
just
I
bring
that
up
as
if
all
of
that
is
actually
necessary
when
parking
is
there's
plenty
of
parking
on
site
and
parking
is
permitted
on
the
street.
So.
C
Actually,
I,
don't
believe.
Your
analysis
supports
your
conclusion,
because
it
talks
about
covered
parking,
it
doesn't
say
the
odor
court,
it
says
MIT
garages
and
car
ports
may
be
freestanding,
but
encouraged
to
be
integrated
with
the
main
structure
which
it
is
covered,
covered
parking
for
more
than
two
cars
to
be
broken
up
multiply
masses.
It
doesn't
talk
about
uncovered
parking
in
that.
A
D
D
What
do
we
look
at
the
linear
trees
if
I,
just
regurgitate
a
little
bit
of
both
the
AAC
was
talking
about?
There
is
no
doubt
that
it
has
an
architectural
element
to
that.
I
think
that
was
even
acknowledged
both
by
the
applicant
and
it
was
acknowledged
by
the
AAC
that
it's
got
a
beautiful
architectural
element.
D
The
question
is
that
architectural
element
actually
appropriate
in
this
setting
and
two
issues
came
up
at
AEC
as
I
was
the
rep
that
was
sitting
on
that
one
is
the
house
next
door
for
the
trees
that
are
on
the
far
back
of
the
site
to
the
rear
of
the
property.
You
know
we
have.
No,
they
can
grow
high
enough
to
make
the
block
of
view
and
the
front
ones.
D
Also
give
you
a
linear
approach
to
something
that
we
really
wanted
to
see
through
the
specific
plan
into
its
conditions,
very
naturalized,
so
these
homes
are
very
thin.
The
the
greenery
of
these
homes
are
very
visible
from
throughout
the
valley
floor
and
the
idea
is
grouping
them
or
bunching
them,
not
eliminating
them
necessarily,
but
grouping
them
or
bunching
them
would
maintain
that
naturalized
state
maybe
eliminate
any
blockage
to
a
neighbor
that
came
up.
Although
I
love,
linear
and
I
love.
The
concept
of
linear
here
and
I
agree
with
the
applicant
I.
D
F
A
A
A
I
do
agree
that
their
street
parking,
but
as
long
as
it's
permeable
I,
don't
know
that
it
and
because
there's
a
14-foot
buffer
and
maybe
24
feet
a
set,
an
additional
setback
to
the
next
house,
and
most
of
it
will
feel
like
it's
set
back
for
that
neighbor
I'm,
not
sure
it
really
creates
a
problem,
and
given
that
this
is
from
what
I've
heard
this
is
a
house
we're
on
the
app
of
currently
the
applicants.
Parents
are
planning
on
living.
It
would
be
good.
A
You
have
the
parking,
be
easy
for
the
people
that
are
going
to
live
there
or
stay
there.
So
I
I,
I'm
sympathetic
to
what
the
AAC
thought
I
think
they're,
usually
really
good
I'm,
just
not
sure
that,
with
the
distances
and
with
the
design
guidelines
that
we
need
to
limit
this.
So
this
is
just
me
speaking,
but
I
don't
know.
If
anybody
else
agrees
with
me,
I
agree:
it.
B
H
A
And
I
hope
that
when
they
open
this
up
for
modernism
week
that
the
the
Association
allows
some
parking
on
the
street,
so
I
think
we
have
pretty
much
agreement
on
that.
I
know.
Commissioner,
woods
doesn't
agree
with
that
item,
but
is
for
the
other
for
the
maker
in
the
second
or
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we've
got.
F
A
C
D
Having
been
the
representative
for
the
architecture,
Advisory
Committee
on
the
breadth
and
the
professionalism
of
that
committee,
and
the
way
that
they
addressed
the
questions
and
whatnot
and
I
just
really
want
to
acknowledge
each
member
of
that
committee
for
the
job
that
they
do
in
reviewing
and
the
talent
that
they
give
us
and
my
point
of
the
parking
was
because
I
was
a
representative
is
to
tell
you
their
viewpoint.
It
wasn't
whether
I
was
against
or
for
it
just
to
let
you
know
what
their
viewpoint
was.
D
I
also
want
to
say
that
does
a
palisade
specific
plan,
the
developer,
pinnacle
view
has
accused
me
of
bias
and
prejudiced
against
this
project
and
I
just
want
to
clarify
for
the
record
that
there
is
no
bias
and
there's
absolutely
no
prejudice
against
the
desert
Palisades
specific
plan.
The
plan
was
approved
before
my
arrival
into
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
It
has
been
on
the
I
know.
There
are
some
that
did
not
want
development
within
the
open
alluvial
fan.
I
was
neither
here.
D
I
was
not
here
to
have
an
opinion
for
or
against
that
I
think.
The
project
itself
is
a
great
example
of
how
to
develop
in
a
hillside
development,
especially
on
something
that's
so
predominant,
and
in
this
type
of
setting,
we
would
like
to
see
it
repeated
in
other
areas
of
the
city,
completely
the
when
the
developer
built
out
the
project.
However,
there
were
a
myriad
of
problems
that
we
as
a
neighborhood
that
I
live
in,
had
to
address
with
the
developer.
D
That
became
very
visible
that
in
no
way
prejudiced
or
biased
me
against
this
project
and,
in
fact,
I
think,
as
the
other
commissioners
had
said,
that
the
architectural
integrity
and
the
architects
that
are
coming
to
develop
in
this
area
are
really
making
this
a
very
unique
and
special
place
different
from
anything
else
in
the
Coachella.
Valley
and
I
applaud
mr.
woods
very
heavily
for
not
only
coming
forward
of
the
well-thought-out
plan
having
a
personal
investment
in
that
plan.
D
Choosing
quality
materials
in
that
plan
paying
attention
to
details
in
that
plan
and
being
so
respectful,
that's
so
excited
about
building
here
that
I
really
really
thank
you
and
I
think
you
have
provided
us
with
a
great
project.
Thank
you
for
the
few
tweaks
we've,
given
you
as
a
city
and
for
accepting
those.
So
thank
you
very
much.
We.
E
A
H
F
E
A
A
C
C
E
A
The
only
comment
I
have
is,
if
you
could
come,
you
could
talk
about
the
subcommittee's
we
have
and
when
the
meetings
will
be,
and
the
only
other
one
is
that
the
Golf
Course
conversion
ordinance
committee
met
this
morning.
We
worked
with
our
attorney
on
light
sort
of
finalizing
concepts.
We
wanted
within
the
language
he's
going
to
go
back
and
redraft
into
appropriate
Palm
Springs
legalese
the
ordinance,
and
it
will
be
coming
back
for
one
more
review
that
we're,
hopefully
only
one
more
review
to
the
subcommittee
before
it
comes
back
here,
but
that
may
be.
E
A
E
Has
not
yet
we
discussed
that
at
the
historic
site,
Preservation
Board
meeting
yesterday
we
are
looking
at
the
availability
of
our
HSP
be
members.
Mr.
priest
will
also
be
working
with
that
subcommittee
as
well.
We'll
probably
have
our
first
meeting
about
two
weeks
out
as
what
I'm
guessing
and
members
donenfeld
and
Marusya
are
the
representatives
for
the
Planning
Commission
on
that
subcommittee,
and
so
miss
hints
will
beginning
with
you
here
in.
E
As
vice-chair
Keller
Dean
has
already
indicated,
we
do
have
our
training
for
all
of
our
board
and
Commission
members
on
Monday
May,
the
14th
this
coming
Monday.
It
starts
at
11:30
and
is
expected
to
end
at
1:30.
Lunch
will
be
served,
it
will
be
held
at
the
convention
center
in
the
smoke
tree
rooms
we'll
be
reviewing
issues
such
as
the
Brown,
Act
and
other
similar
things
that
boards
and
commissions
need
to
know
in
carrying
out
their
duties.
So
again,
we
hope
to
see
you
there
on
Monday,
since.