►
From YouTube: Planning Commission | February 28, 2018
Description
No description was provided for this meeting.
If this is YOUR meeting, an easy way to fix this is to add a description to your video, wherever mtngs.io found it (probably YouTube).
B
B
D
B
We
are
at
the
acceptance
of
the
agenda
and
we
had
had
a
question
from
one
of
our
commissioners
regarding
the
subcommittees
that
we
currently
have,
and
they
had
asked
for
a
discussion
regarding
that
was
Commissioner
Hudson,
and
we
thought
we
would
put
it
at
this
point
in
the
agenda.
So
before
we
accept
madam
chair.
D
B
B
B
Testimony
may
be
given
at
this
time
or
during
public
hearings.
Just
for
your
information
item.
2A
is
a
public
hearing
but
item
3a,
which
is
the
minor
architectural,
the
Cu
P.
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
the
public
hearing
is
for
the
AT&T
mobile
for
2a,
so
that,
if
you
wish
to
speak
on
2a,
you
can
either
speak
now
or
you
can
wait
until
we
take
that
item
up
which
will
be
right
after
public
testimony
and
if
you're
here
on
the
infusion,
Beach
Hotel
and
you
wish
to
testify.
That
is
not
a
public
hearing.
B
B
It's
AT&T
Mobility
on
behalf
of
Sharon
Dean,
for
a
Cu
P
to
construct
a
wireless
communications
facility
consisting
of
48
foot
tall
monopole
disguised
as
a
palm
tree,
and
a
variance
to
exceed
the
maximum
antenna
height
permitted
from
15
feet
to
48
feet
located
at
41,
85
East,
Palm,
Canyon
Drive
can
I
have
a
staff
report.
Please
I.
Thank.
F
You
chair
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
start
off
by
orienting
the
Commission
to
where
we're
located
here.
If
you
look
at
the
slide,
that's
on
the
board
in
front
of
you.
This
site
is
located
behind
the
the
the
state
sale
shops
that
are
on
the
corner
of
Lynden
and
east
palm
canyon
drive.
So
this
project
was
originally
approved
in
2014
and
it
it
they
never
received
a
building
permit.
So
the
entitlement
which
is
good
for
two
years
expired.
The
project
went
to
City
Council
and
was
also
approved
and
at
City
Council.
F
They
had
some
revisions
to
the
project
which
were
incorporated
into
this
recent
middle.
That
is
before
you
today.
So
if
I
could
briefly
go
through
the
slides
once
again,
this
is
located
behind
the
estate
sale
company,
East,
Palm,
Canyon
Drive
was
to
the
top
of
the
slide
and
to
the
west,
or
the
left
is
the
Mercedes
dealership
and
then
to
the
bottom
or
the
south.
Is
a
vacant
lot?
F
So
looking
at
the
proposed
project,
it
includes
one
cellular
tower
for
18t
a
equipment
yard
that
will
have
five
palm
trees
date-palms
that
we
planted
adjacent
to
the
site.
A
perimeter
wall
that
will
enclose
the
yard
and
then
shrubs
that
will
be
planted
at
the
base
to
shield
it
or
to
soften
it
from
the
parking
lot
of
the
estate
sale
company.
F
F
Trunk
you'll
see
that
there
is
a
1/8
I'm,
sorry,
a
9
foot,
tall
block
wall
that
will
surround
the
property
and
it
will
be
painted
to
match
the
tan
or
beige
color
of
the
buildings
on
the
estate
sale.
This
is
another
view
of
the
elevation
with
the
shrubs.
A
part
of
the
review
of
the
planning
department
to
see
if
the
pool
was
appropriate
is
to
provide
maps
that
show
the
coverage
the
AT&T
cell
towers
within
the
city.
This
is
a
map
of
the
South
Palm
Canyon
region.
F
Right
in
the
middle
is
a
red
dot
with
sort
of
purple
or
gray
around
it.
This
is
the
location
of
the
proposed
cell
tower
and
you'll
see
that
the
the
area
in
green
or
yellow
is
not
present.
When
the
cell
tower
is
installed
there.
The
gap
that
is
within
service
will
be
we
filled
in
with
cell
service,
and
this
is
a
map
showing
the
reach
of
this
one
cell
tower
by
itself.
F
F
This
is
a
view
looking
towards
the
mercedes-benz
dealership,
which
is
in
the
back,
which
is
the
grey
buildings,
and
once
again,
this
is
showing
the
cell
tower,
with
the
proposed
planting
of
the
trees
around
it,
the
palm
trees,
and
then
this
is
a
site
towards
a
view
towards
the
back
of
the
mercedes-benz
dealership
towards
the
estate
sale
property
in
earlier.
In
discussions
with
the
Planning
Commission,
there
were
some
talk
about
the
types
of
cell
towers
that
the
Planning
Commission
has
approved
in
the
past.
F
This
is
a
picture
of
a
recent
cell
tower
the
taller
one
which
was
approved
behind
the
Methodist
Church,
and
this
is
a
monopole
that
was
designed
as
a
Washingtonian
Philippa.
This
is
different
than
what
is
proposed
today,
they're
proposing
a
date
palm
which
is
longer
fronds
and
not
the
sort
of
fan
palm,
and
this
is
a
cell
tower
that
was
approved
recently
by
the
Planning
Commission
City
Council.
F
And
if
you
remember,
the
Planning
Commission
required
that
the
poll
be
painted
a
brown
color,
so
it
blended
into
the
mountain
which
this
certainly
appears
to
be
so
in
your
staff
report.
There
are
findings
that
the
Planning
Commission
needs
to
make
in
order
to
grant
a
conditional
use
permit
and
also
findings
to
grant
a
variance.
The
zoning
code
allows
polls
at
a
height
of
15
feet,
they're
requesting
greater
height
than
that,
so
the
variance
is
required.
F
F
There
are
some
photographs
also
that
one
of
planning
Commissioner
Woods,
wanted
passed
out
if
we
were
in
the
other
room,
I'd
be
able
to
put
them
up
on
the
screen,
but
we
had
to
load
our
RP
our
PowerPoint
before
we
could
get
these.
So
those
are
in
front
of
you
also
today,
Terry
I
think
there
Terry
are
they
do
you
have
them
there
or
yeah
Terry's
gonna?
Oh,
they
do
have
them.
Okay,.
G
Yes,
Glenn:
do
you
know
if
the
proposed
project
to
the
east
of
this
area,
that's
between
the
states,
hills
and
bonds,
that
residential
project
that
we
approved
is
is
has
been
notified
and
they
give
you
any
comment
on
that.
Their.
F
G
B
E
I
think
I
know
the
answer
to
this
question,
but
I'm
gonna
ask
it
anyway,
because
it's
a
recurring
problem
here.
These
mono
poles
that
are
made
to
look
like
palm
trees,
look
fairly
good
when
they're
first
constructed
and
directed
and
put
up,
but
over
time
they
lose
the
fronds
and
they
look
worse
than
if
they
were.
There
were
no
friends
at
all.
F
So
the
the
city
does
respond
to
code
enforcement
actions
against
the
cell
tower,
so
we
don't
particularly
have
a
schedule
where
we
go
look
at
them
once
a
year,
you'll
see
in
the
revised
conditions
of
approval
that
were
passed
out
to
you
today.
That
includes
a
maintenance
for
the
specific
tower
itself.
Does.
E
The
city
of
any
policy
on
what
these
cells
should
look
like,
in
other
words,
when
a
provider
a
telecommunications
provider,
comes
to
the
desk.
Who
comes
to
the
blank
department
to
discuss
one
of
these
proposals?
Do
you
go
through
the
various
technological
alternatives
for
cells
today,
or
do
you
just
rely
on
what
the
applicant
is?
First
asking
for
in.
F
D
Correct
we
don't
have
a
policy
relative
to
either
mano
palms
or
mono
poles.
As
you'll
recall
in
the
past,
we've
held
a
study
session
on
this
topic.
At
that
point
in
time,
the
City
Council
had
a
different
opinion
about
the
issue.
Then
the
Planning
Commission
did
I,
don't
know
if
that's
still
the
case
today
we
do
have
new
members
of
City
Council
and,
as
this
application
goes
through
the
process,
it
will
be
interesting
to
see
how
they
react
to
the
design
of
this
particular
cell
tower
and
that
might
establish
policy
just.
E
F
F
E
F
E
B
C
F
C
You've
had
no
discussions
with
the
property
owner
about
what
they're
contemplating
to
do
at
that
site.
No
and
I
also
wanted
to
reference.
The
letter
from
Eric
do
for
an
Andrew
Sawyer
III
had
a
question
about
whether
whether
they
were
should
have
been
noticed
in
that
500-foot
radius
or
not
as
well.
But
in
addition
to
that
it,
it
sounds
like
this
guy
or
one
of
the
two
guys
knows
what
they're
talking
about
like
I
said
it
sounds
like
they
do,
I
anyway,
to
independently
evaluate
that
myself.
C
D
Let
me
respond
to
that
you,
as
the
Planning
Commission
review
the
applications
that
come
before
you.
The
application
is
to
consider
a
cell
tower
on
this
particular
site.
They
have
a
signature
from
the
property
owner,
meaning
that
they
have
approval
to
proceed
with
this
site.
We
cannot
direct
them
to
other
sites.
This
is
the
application.
We
review
it
for
conformance
to
our
code
requirements
and
make
our
decisions
accordingly.
C
Pursue
another
side
I'm
just
asking
whether
there's
some
independent
way,
we
can
I
mean
we're
given
emails
from
the
public,
to
evaluate
them
to
guide
our
our
decision
making
process
whether
we
agree
with
the
letter
or
don't
you
know
it's
up
to
us,
but
I
was
just
wondering
if
there
was
some
independent
way
that
we
could
evaluate
the
claim
and
if
there
is
and
it's
true
then
maybe
there's
another
finding.
That
I
would
mean.
H
This
is
Michael
and
just
a
couple
questions
the
is
the
sidewalk
run
to
the
edge
of
the
property
line.
Now.
F
H
F
H
H
H
Okay
and
a
type
of
thing,
and
then
the
other
thing
I
was
going
to
ask
or
I
just
mentioned,
for
the
the
benefit
of
the
entire
Commission
is
that,
in
my
experience
and
running
these,
you
do
want
to
put
a
timeline
on
for
them
to
repair
something
if
the
fronds
are
blown
through.
A
windstorm
and
they're
notified.
It's
tradition
that
I
have
experienced
to
put
like
a
two-week
timeline
for
them
to
actually
respond,
because
without
that
they
could
take
20
months
or
20
years.
H
If
there's
a
problem
with
ordering
that
they
can
work
with
city
staff,
but
without
that
kind
of
a
hook,
we
have
very
little
that
we
can
do
to
make
sure
that
the
tree
is
intact
and
remains
in
its
original
condition.
The
other
question
I
have
is:
do
we
have
a
diagram
of
what
this
will
actually
look
like
when
the
the
fronds
are
attached
or
a
picture.
F
H
H
D
B
Commissioner
Hurst
binds
the
letter
that
we
received
asked
about
colocation
at
the
mano
poem
that
we
put
in
at
Rimrock.
I
noticed
that
we
have
a
requirement
here
that
requires
the
applicant
allow
colocation
on
on
this
mono
poem.
Was
there
a
similar
requirement
and
then
I'd
reserved
my
question
to
ask
if
the
applicant
talked
to
the
owner
of
the
a
monopole
at
Rimrock,
you're.
B
I
I
B
I
B
You
have
three
minutes:
I
won't
take
three.
My
name
is
Jacqueline
creamer
I
live
in
Canyon
sands
and
I
live
actually
on
seven
lakes,
so
I
will
probably
hardly
ever
see
it
except
when
I
round
the
corner,
but
my
neighbor's
certainly
will
and
I
think
they
are
concerned
about
this,
and
also
if
they
build
the
housing
project
next
to
Vaughn's
opposite
bonds
owned.
E
H
I
By
FCC
you
know,
I,
don't
know
the
details
of
all
the
licenses
had
I
know
that
these
carriers
obviously
have
done
many
of
these
sites
and
they
are
in
compliance
with
the
FCC
guidelines.
We
as
part
of
the
submittal,
we
may
have
a
an
FCC,
a
statement,
a
document
that
asserts
that
we
will
comply
with
the
FCC
guidelines
so.
H
I
H
I
Are
coverage
issues?
There
are
line-of-sight
issues
with
these
types
of
things.
Do
you
have
antennas
that
are
spitting
out
things?
If
at
15
feet,
you
may
have
to
go
through
obstructions
like
buildings?
Various
things
there's
also
a
limitation
on
reach
according
to
height.
So
as
you
go
higher
these
things,
it
doesn't
it's
not
indefinite.
We
don't
put
up
500
foot
towers
because
they
can
reach
20
miles.
It's
not
like
that,
but
at
15
feet,
you're
pushing
out
this
way.
I
Well,
the
radio
frequency
engineers
evaluate
these
things.
We
have
coverage
objectives
when
we
come
into
these
potential
sites
and
the
coverage
objective
is
where
it
sounds
like
the
amount
of
area
that
we're
attempting
to
cover
lower
Heights
would
not
allow
those
coverage
objectives
to
be
met,
and
that's
what
the
coverage
map
should
show
is
that
48
feet.
We
would
be
able
to
provide
the
coverage
depicted
and
those
are
part
of
the
objectives.
Okay,
one.
A
I
F
I
Yet
these
things
don't
sell
sites,
don't
having
it
like
I
said
in
a
definite
range.
They
in
fact
have
a
shorter
range
than
you
might
think.
What
we
routinely
do
when
we
go
out
to
do
reconnaissance
of
sites
to
see
where
we
might
look.
Is
we
look
for
existing
locations?
We
look
to
co-locate.
We
know
the
jurisdictions
prefer
colocation,
but
we're
also
these
sites
are
very
sensitive
to
their
location
here
versus
another
location.
As
you
move
in
one
direction,
you
lose
coverage
in
the
opposite
direction
that
make
sense.
I
A
Not
that
I'm,
that
technical
but
I
could
imagine
a
scenario
where
the
engineers
want
to
reach
the
widest
possible
area.
So
they
put
it
where
they're
asking,
but
if
they
moved
it
to
the
colocation
when
they
lose
5%
10%
20%
additional
coverage.
If
it's
just
a
little
bit,
then
why
and
of
course
the
engineers
want
the
maximum
possible
coverage,
but
if
they
don't
lose
that
much
by
moving
it
to
the
Rimrock,
be
nice
to
know
what
the
coverage
would
change
if
they
had
co-located
yeah.
J
Just
to
follow
up
on
that
issue,
I
realized
that
you're
you're
an
installer
for
this
one
specific
site.
Do
you
know,
though,
pertaining
to
AT&T
I'm?
Looking
at
the
coverage
map?
That's
on
the
screen
and
they're
still,
you
know,
let's
say
a
fairly
good-sized
area.
That's
I'll,
just
call
it
yellow.
Instead
of
the
green.
That's
desire.
Do
you
know
if
there's
any
master
plan
that
AT&T
specifically
has
about
in
filling
some
of
these
less
than
ideal
zones?
J
It's
hard
to
evaluate
this
one
unless
we
know
whether
okay
of
two
other
ones,
perhaps
we're
added
that
we're
shorter.
You
know
that
it's
it's
a
cumulative
thing
and
you
know
jeez.
We
we
went
through
all
these
issues.
Peter
you
had
the
question
on
the
comet
we
had
so
many
medians
and
so
many
towers
that
were
reviewed
a
few
years
ago
and
all
of
these
issues
came
up
so
anyway.
My
question
I
think
pertains
to.
Are
there
any
other
proposed
sites
that
you
know
of
specifically
just
for
AT&T?
J
I
C
E
Have
a
general
comment-
and
my
comment
is
this:
these
are
always
difficult
and
they
will
continue
to
be
difficult,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
the
carriers
should
understand
that
these
are
very
important
issues
for
our
residents,
because
it
affects
our
quality
of
life
and
I
know
how
they're
also
very
important,
because
people
want
to
have
transmission
good
transmission.
The
provider
should
be
here.
The
the
utility
should
be
here
to
discuss
some
of
these
things,
particularly
whether
they
looked
at
the
colocation
opportunity
at
Rimrock
I
mean
there.
There
are
a
lot
of
unanswered
questions.
E
B
B
B
J
I
think
you
know,
Commissioner
of
dawn,
it
felt
pretty
much
stated
what
I
feel
as
well.
You
know
colocation,
of
course,
that
discussion
would
then
need
to
entail
other
carriers,
which
further
complicates
this,
but
I.
Think
a
good
starting
point
would
be
requiring
that
AT&T
representatives
be
here,
I
think
the
idea
or
the
issue
of
certifying
these
coverage
maps
who's.
You
know
who's
provel,
providing
these
coverage
documents
I
think
is
important.
I
know
that's
an
issue
that
came
up
in
our
previous
discussions,
previous
installations,
so.
B
C
E
I
would
really
not
like
to
add
that
to
my
motion,
because
I
think
that
puts
a
very
heavy
burden
on
our
staff
on
our
city
if
we
have
to
provide
an
independent
consultant
on
each
and
every
cell
location
matter
is
going
to
be
quite
costly
for
the
city
to
engage
those
kind
of
services,
and
it
will
take
quite
a
bit
of
time.
So.
C
C
C
E
D
Chair,
if
I
might
just
interject
with
us,
what
we
might
ask
the
applicant
to
do
is
to
have
the
engineer
who
prepared
the
maps
to
come
and
testify
at
her
next
Planning
Commission
meeting.
In
addition,
another
suggestion
that
I
might
make
is
based
on
your
comments
and
your
questions.
You
might
request
that
the
applicant
also
provide
coverage
height
or
coverage
maps
at
a
height,
that's
lower
than
the
44
foot
height
that
they
are
requesting
so
that
you
can
see
the
difference
in
the
maps
at
a
lower
height.
C
G
D
Difficult
for
us,
because
again,
as
I
had
explained
at
the
beginning,
when
you
have
an
entitlement
application,
it's
for
a
specific
site,
the
discretion
is
not
given
to
the
Planning
Commission
to
direct
them
to
seek
other
sites.
It's
either.
It
meets
the
criteria
for
this
site
or
it
does
not,
and
you
may
find
that,
maybe
it
doesn't
I
don't
know,
but
we
cannot
necessarily
direct
them.
Well,
we
can
ask
them
is,
did
they
consider
the
other
site?
And
we
would
want
to
have
testimony
to
that
at
the
next
meeting,
because.
B
D
A
H
Would
agree
with
the
motion.
I
would
just
ask
the
applicant
to
come
back
with
a
much
better
depiction
of
what
it's
actually
going
to
look
like
as
an
example.
We,
our
staff,
showed
some
pictures
earlier
and
on
the
paddles
there
was
those
that
were
camouflaged
and
those
that
weren't
camouflaged
it
made
a
massive
difference,
I
think
as
a
planning
Commissioner.
One
of
my
roles
is
really
about
the
built
environment
and
ensuring
the
built
environment
melds
well
with
our
environment.
I
I
B
So
at
this
point
we
have
better
detailing-
and
this
isn't
part
of
the
motion
but
I'd
when
this
comes
back
with
staff-
to
look
at
the
issue
of
a
20
day
notice
to
repair.
If
we
end
up
doing
a
palm
and
I
I
think
it
might
be
interesting
to
also
since
our
Commission
in
the
past
had
wanted.
Mana
polls
as
opposed
to
palms
and
our
City
Council
has
changed.
B
We
may
have
changed,
City
Council
has
definitely
the
people
on
the
City
Council
have
changed.
The
majority
has
changed
is
maybe
ask
them
also
to
come
back
with
a
with
a
monopole
version
or
a
different
version,
as
well
as
the
palm
version,
and
also
just
specify
I
think
you
talked
about
specifying
the
number
of
fonts,
the
density,
Francia
I.
B
J
H
J
J
B
D
So
it
might
be
safe
to
recommend
that
the
applicant
to
come
back
with
a
monopole
design
with
the
palm-trees,
as
currently
indicated
on
the
site
plan,
to
screen
the
monopole,
and
so
that
way
the
applicant
does
not
need
to
come
back
with
additional
drawings
as
to
the
monopole
and
the
number
of
fronds
etc.
Okay,.
B
So
we
have
the
motion
and
then
we
had
one
request
and
so
restating
the
motion.
We
wanted
the
applicant
to
come
back
with
the
engineer
who
prepared
the
coverage
maps
and
to
bring
back
the
maps
at
both
forty
four
feet
and
are
we
looking
at
30
feet
what
it?
What
would
be?
The
other
alternate
I
in
because
we
talked
about
two
different
alternates
so
is
to
somebody
have
30,
is
30
feet
acceptable
to
you.
I.
E
F
B
C
G
G
G
B
B
D
H
B
G
B
B
J
Muddy
the
water,
even
more
okay,
yes,
please,
when
we
originally
reviewed
this
I
believe
there
is
one
installation
in
town
when
we
talked
about
monopole,
it
was
literally
a
pole
with
no
raise
no
transmitters.
These
big
speakers
hanging
off
of
it
and
that's
originally
why
we
went
in
my
recollection
with
the
monopole,
because
it
was
just
an
elegant,
in
my
mind,
simple
functional
item
with
no
decoration
on
it.
So,
as
part
of
our
motion,
can
we
request
that
the
applicant
come
back
is?
J
B
G
A
I
was
I,
went
to
look
at
the
Rimrock
location
yesterday
and
they
have
two
polls
very
close
to
each
other
within
like
20
feet.
One
is
a
palm
and
one
is
a
so-called
monopole,
but
it's
completely
surrounded
by
all
those
hanging.
Gizmos
so
I
mean
that
and
I
was
assuming,
that
the
reason
why
you
you,
the
preference
in
the
past,
was
for
a
monopole
painted
Brown,
because
it
was
right
next
to
the
mountain
here.
That's
much
further
away
from
the
mountains,
so
having
a
brown
monopole
would
really
not
provide
any
disguise.
What.
B
B
J
F
B
D
H
Guess,
part
of
being
the
new
person
other
things
you
don't
know
the
whole
history
of
where
we're
at
or
what
we're
doing
so
I'm
gonna
just
throw
out
a
philosophical
point,
I
think
what
comes
up
when
we
like
to
the
double
memory.
Do
you
you
know?
Do
you
hide
it
or
do
not
hide
it
right,
that's
what
it
comes
with
mean,
and
if
you,
if
you
hide
it,
you
make
it
look
like
something
else
like
a
tree
and
we've
seen
many
examples
where
these
trees
don't
hold
up
and
they
don't
look
real.
H
You
know
they're
fake,
and
if
you
go
online,
you
can
see
a
plethora
of
stuff
that
says
that
they
don't
look
like
trees,
part
of
the
reason
that
they
even
did
that
wasn't
so
much
for
the
aesthetic
it
was.
Basically,
people
were
worried
about
the
health
benefits
and
they
didn't
want
to
remind
people
that
they
had
a
pole
next
to
their
residents.
There
are,
however,
I
think
in
a
place.
That's
this
predominant!
It's
not
an
industrial
area,
and
it's
right
next
to
our
Arts
District.
This
is
an
opportunity
and
I.
H
Don't
know
this
is
where
the
newbie
comes
in.
There
is
an
opportunity
of
18
degrees
to
make
something
really
quite
spectacular
and
I.
Don't
know
the
cost
variance
in
that
and
those
are
the
pictures
that
I
provided
each
of
you.
Even
if
it's
a
simple
flagpole
right
that
it's
surrounded,
it
still
doesn't
look
like
a
fake
palm
tree.
H
That's
out
there
that
needs
a
lot
of
maintenance
in
the
first
windstorm
from
these
pictures
will
show
you
whether
you're
you
know
across
the
world
towers
are
Akana,
I,
don't
care
if
it's
Tokyo
or
its
Berlin
or
anywhere
in
between
they're
iconic
features,
whether
we
have
the
wherewithal
an
ATT
is
willing
to
work
with
us
to
make
something.
That's
iconic,
I,
don't
know.
So
what
I
provided
to
you
was
some
simple
stuff,
even
one
in
San
Diego,
which
is
the
blue
pole
with
birds
on
it.
H
You
know
it's
we
have,
we
are
Coachella,
Coachella
is
Music,
Coachella
is
art.
We
have
so
many
burners
that
live
in
Palm
Springs.
We
have
desert
X.
This
might
be
an
opportunity
if
the
applicant
agrees-
and
this
is
the
philosophical
thing
to
really
do
something
spectacular
or
even
not
spectacular
if
they
just
say
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
on
it.
So
my
thing
would
not
to
be
a
palm
tree,
but
I
thought
this
is
the
monopole,
so
I
like
to
do
something
that
is
more
artistic
if
possible.
Thank
you.
So.
F
D
F
And
then
the
maps
to
have
different
heights
at
38
feet
for
a
poll
and
at
45
for
a
poll
and
then
to
discuss
the
colocation
at
the
Rimrock
site
and
then
to
provide
to
check
the
labels
to
see
if
the
Lyndon
residents
were
notified
and
that
to
provide
multiple
versions
of
either
monopole
or
a
monopole
and
then
explore
other
different
types
of
polls.
If
they're
available,
I
think.
B
C
H
B
H
G
H
H
B
B
The
applicants
proposal
a
proposal
from
Friends
of
Palm
Springs
mountains,
something
regarding
affordable
housing
and
there
was
a
list
that
I
believe
we
were
going
to
get
from
the
city,
the
city,
engineer's
office
and
I.
Think
Flynn
has
three
of
those
items,
and
the
fourth
is
in
the
staff
report
am
I
correct
on
the
items
that
are
in
front
of
us.
You.
D
H
You,
madam
chair
I,
am
going
to
recuse
myself
from
this
item,
not
for
any
financial
interest
or
conflict
of
interest,
but
I
was
a
signature
on
a
letter
that
came
to
you.
Commenting
on
this
project.
I
also
was
not
present
during
the
part
of
the
public
hearing.
Do
testimony
from
the
public
and
you've
gone
through
several
meetings
and
I
think
it's.
It
would
be
unfair
of
the
public
for
me
to
participate
in
this.
This
discussion,
so
I
will
recuse
myself.
Thank.
B
K
You,
madam
chair,
as
you
summarized
my
staff
report
very
well,
this
has
been
before
you
a
few
times.
The
action
that
you
took
at
I
believe
it
was
your
January
10th
meeting
was
to
approve
the
conditional
use
permit
for
the
outdoor
food
use
to
approve
the
conditional
use
permit
for
the
cocktail
lounge
juice
and
to
approve
the
conditional
use
permit
for
the
outdoor
sound
stage.
/
entertainment
venue,
the
items
before
you
for
consideration
that
are
remaining
on
this
project
are
the
minor
architectural
application
which
addresses
a
couple
of
building
additions.
K
K
K
There
were
originally
three
components
to
the
architecture:
there's
a
food
service
prepping
here,
there's
a
free-standing
bar
here
and
then
you
may
recall
in
this
location
there
was
what
we
were
calling
a
ticketing,
slash,
security
building.
It
was
about
an
1,100
square
foot,
single
storey
building
that
was,
as
the
name
implied,
was
their
ticketing
and
security
functions
for
this
outdoor
use.
They
have
through
the
process
since
your
last
Commission
meeting
deleted
this
building.
So
this
building
is
now
gone.
K
K
This
is
the
stairway
that's
existing
within
the
existing
building.
The
existing
hotel
is.
Is
this
l-shaped
configuration
here
within
the
existing
building?
There
are
some
areas
here:
that's
currently
their
laundry
facility
that
will
be
gutted
and
converted
to
toilet
facilities,
to
support
the
larger
population
of
people
that
will
be
out
here
in
this
pool
and
entertainment
venue
area
and
just
to
give
you
some
other
indication
on
the
site
plan.
This
is
existing
parking.
Okay.
This
is
Palm
Canyon
Drive
here,
so
North
is
up.
Indian
Canyon
Drive
is
over
there.
It
takes
access
to
it
here.
K
There
is
a
stairway
here,
stay
away
here
stairway
here.
The
primary
entrance
into
the
hotel
is
here
and
there's
a
covered
Porte
cochere
that
exists.
This
exists.
That's
right
here,
the
applicant.
Thus
far,
this
project
has
constructed
the
pool,
the
perimeter
of
pool
barriers
and
the
raised
platform
here,
which
is
the
soundstage
and
also
for
additional
dining.
K
K
The
other
thing
that
they
were
asking
for
is
that
it
for
a
matter
of
visual
consistency,
there's
a
small
there's,
a
small
canopy
of
sorts
that
goes
over
the
pickup
window.
That
isn't
really
seen,
but
a
little
bit
of
it
will
be
seen
above
the
hedge
and
they
ask
that
that
be
conducted
or
put
in
place
with
the
color
consistent
with
the
other,
shade
fabrics
and
so
on.
In
the
project.
K
Pardon
I'm
gonna
get
to
it
in
an
exhibit
just
a
second
here
and
then
the
last
thing
that
they
had
discussed
how
it
was
pulled
back
was
thinking
about
how
this
might
integrate
with
the
handrail
of
the
building.
Let
me
get
into
some
of
these
details
a
bit
for
you
here
now.
If
I
can,
my
computer
will
work
for
me.
K
Okay,
so
on
this
image,
what
you're
seeing
here,
which
is
very
simple-
this
is
up
almost
like
an
architectural
permit
drawing,
but
this
is
the
facade
along
Palm
Canyon,
this
second
one
here.
Can
you
guys
see
this
me
moving
the
mouse
here?
Okay,
this
is
the
area
where
the
cabanas
are
within
the
pool
area.
This
is
the
raised
platform
that
will
be
used
for
the
sound
stage
and
outdoor
dining
in
a
raised
platform,
and
there
is
an
outdoor
entertainment.
This
is
the
portion
of
the
of
the
exterior
wall
facing
Palm
Canyon.
K
That
has
some
various
material
changes
here.
This
is
porcelain,
panel
plank
and
a
gridded
system
that
will
be
used
to
both
add
texture
and
allow
the
plant
material
in
these
planters
to
climb
up
the
wall.
This
is
a
small
area
that
is
the
food
service.
Building,
it's
very
hard
to
see
it's
kind
of
a
utilitarian
building,
that's
kind
of
tucked
in
at
the
backside
of
the
of
the
building,
and
then
this
that
you
see
here
in
the
lower
left
corner
is
the
freestanding
bar
freestanding
bar
these.
K
These
down
in
this
area
here
are
just
elevations
of
the
freestanding
bar,
so
here's
a
little
bit
larger
detail.
This
is,
of
course,
the
interior
of
the
food
service.
Building
this
one
here
in
the
center
is
the
freestanding
bar,
and
then
this
area
here
with
the
synthetic
grass
and
some
picnic
tables,
is
where
the
security
and
ticketing
building
used
to
be,
and
now
this
is
simply
open
space
that
will
serve
as
ancillary
to
the
pool
Terrace
area.
These
are
details
and
elevations
of
some
sorry
details
and
elevations
of
the
of
the
food
service
building.
K
So
the
issue
that
the
arc
the
subcommittee
was
concerned
about
is
there's
a
good
bit
of
a
mechanical
equipment.
As
you
see
in
this
drawing
here,
air
handlers
make
up
units
exhausts
and
so
on,
and
this
is
the
outside
second
floor,
terrace
or
corridor
that
feeds
the
second
that's
used
to
get
access
to
the
second
floor,
hotel
rooms
and
the
concern
was
that
this
parapet
wall
be
done
in
a
so
that
it
effectively
screens
the
view
of
this
equipment
while
providing
an
attractive
surface
or
face
as
you're
walking
down
this
particular
corridor.
Now.
K
I
would
note
that
this
particular
corridor-
that's
on
the
south
edge
of
this
building
is
a
bit
like
a
back
hallway.
There
are
no
rooms
that
face
onto
this
part
of
the
balcony.
All
the
rooms
face
either
east
or
west,
so
the
building
basically
connects.
This
part
here
is
the
kitchen
building,
and
this
here
is
the
outdoor
passage
at
the
first
floor
and
the
outdoor
passage
at
the
second
floor.
K
When
we
were
with
the
subcommittee,
we
were
looking
at
how
this
particular
parapet
gets
articulated
and
when
we
left
the
idea
was
that
this
would
be
a
continuation
of
the
lower
wall
now
in
the
drawings
that
they've
done-
and
this
has
been
put
together
very
very
quickly
for
today's
meetings,
so
I
apologize
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
that
we've
had
them
scramble
these
last
couple
of
days.
But
the
the
detail
here
that
I
have
asked
them
to
clarify
and
revise
I'm
gonna
enlarge
assist
a
bit.
So
you
understand
my
concern
here.
K
K
So,
as
you
look
at
this
building,
you
realize
that
whoops
I'm,
sorry,
you
realize
this
is
basically
a
utilitarian
box.
That's
setting,
basically
between
the
edge
of
the
pool
terrace
area
and
the
dumpster
and
the
pool
equipment
on
the
east
side
of
the
building.
So
there's
not
much
of
it.
That
will
be
seen
and
I'll
show
you
the
images
of
that
from
the
street.
K
In
a
moment
this
is
the
pickup
window,
where
the
server's
will
come
and
pick
up
the
meals
and
serve
them
to
the
patrons,
and
this
small
thing
here
is
a
simple
canvas
canopy
that
the
subcommittee
asked
be
put
into
a
color.
That's
consistent
with
the
fabric
canopies
that
they're,
using
throughout
the
complex.
K
The
color
schedule
we've
basically
talked
about
before
this
is
basically
showing
the
color
of
the
building,
which
is
this.
What
is
sort
of
the
brass
color,
the
what
is
called
algae
and
brown?
Sugar
are
various
accent
colors
on
doors.
The
charcoal
is
a
color,
that's
used
as
an
accent
both
inside
the
rooms
and
at
the
front
access
wall
along
Palm,
Canyon,
and
then,
of
course,
the
red
is
to
signify
the
color
of
the
clay
tile
roof,
which
is
existing
to
remain.
K
This
is
an
image
of
the
pool,
terrace
area
and
I'm,
going
to
step
up
here
again
to
the
screen
and
point
this
thing
out
this
kitchen
building,
that's
been.
The
discussion
of
most
of
our
concerns
is,
is
right
back
in
here,
and
so,
if
I
show
you
on
the
floor
plan
again
here
is
the
swimming
pool.
Here
is
the
hot
tub.
This
is
a
hedge
screen
that
screens
that
kitchen
area
from
this
area,
the
service.
K
Waiters
and
so
on,
would
access
here
pick
up
the
food
from
the
pickup
window
and
deliver
it
to
the
tables.
This
little
thing
that
you
see
here
is
the
little
canopy
that
we're
talking
about.
That
is
what
the
subcommittee
requested
be
done
in
this
same
sort
of
charcoal
color.
So
there's
a
continuity
to
all
these
awnings
and
canopies.
The
one
thing
that
is
a
little
bit
difficult
and
not
quite
drawn
correctly
here
and
again.
K
That
was
a
lack
of
time
is
this:
is
the
top
of
the
parapet
wall
right
there
of
this
food
service
prepping
that
actual
top
is
going
to
be
up
about
in
here.
So
there's
a
total
height
of
the
building
is
about
16
feet
and
in
that
way
it's
screening
the
view
of
that
mechanical
equipment
from
those
second-floor
railings
and
second
floor
passageways.
K
This
is
a
view
that
you've
seen
before
this
is
the
Palm
Canyon
frontage
and
what's
happening
here
is
in
the
previous
version,
when
there
was
a
the
security
and
ticketing
building,
it
would
have
been
behind
this
area
here,
okay,
but
now
that
building
is
gone,
and
so
simply
this
is
a
consistent
height.
Nine
foot
high
wall
that
is
used
for
the
acoustical
attenuation
and
control
of
the
sound,
an
entertainment
venue.
This
is
a
small
image
of
the
monument
sign
which
I
think
I
have
a
better
copy
here.
K
Oops.
This
is
the
area
that
used
to
be
the
ticketing
and
security
building.
So
what
they've
done
here
is
this
is
this
is
concrete
beneath
here.
So
they've
put
this
in
with
synthetic
grass,
it
does
have
drainage
under
it
and
then
a
small
area
here
that
will
be
used
as
sort
of
a
breakout
area
for
people
to
sit
down
and
have
basically,
you
know,
casual
seating.
This
little
area
here
is
the
ramp
that
goes
up
to
that
elevated
stage
or
platform
which
is
here
to
the
left.
K
This
is
the
existing
condition
along
in
the
Indian
Canyon
Drive
frontage.
Most
of
their
landscaping
is
mature
and
has
been
pretty
well
maintained.
We've
had
identified
in
the
conditions
of
approval
that
the
landscaping
does
need
to
be
filled
in
where
they've
got
some
gaps
to
achieve
the
standard.
50%
live
plant
material
in
the
landscaped
areas.
K
K
Let
me
just
take
this
all
now
back
to
the
I
wanted
to
show
you
also
one
more
thing
here:
bear
with
me
a
minute
please.
This
is
the
view
from
indian
canyon
from
the
entrance
that's
coming
into
the
parking
lot.
So,
commissioner,
her
screen,
you
were
asking.
What
that
you
shaped
thing
is
it's
this.
This
is
the
stairway
for
this
corner
of
the
building.
K
This
is
the
trash
enclosure.
This
is
the
pool
equipment
and
tucked
back
in
here,
is
the
actual
back
edge.
You
can
just
see
above
these
other
walls
of
the
food
service.
This
again,
they
have
not
had
time
to
correct
this,
but
this
will
come
up
about
another
five
feet
to
approximately
here,
so
that
these
surfaces
will
and
the
materials
and
equipment
on
top
of
this
will
be
screened
from
view
from
these
terraces,
and
the
surface
here
will
blend
with
the
surfaces
you
see
on
the
rest
of
the
building.
K
So
on
pages
the
bottom
of
page
two
and
the
top
of
page
3,
the
with
the
elimination
of
the
ticketing
building,
the
real
things
were
from
which
they're
seeking
deviations
and
relief
is
the
side
yard
setback
where
the
foodservice
building
is
going
typically
for
a
hotel,
it
would
be
a
ten-foot
side,
yard
setback
they're
requesting
zero.
This
is
not
necessarily
outrageous
because
if
you
remember
this
as
a
split
zone
lot,
and
so
the
Palm
Canyon
side
of
this
lot
is
C,
1
and
C.
1
has
no
side
yard
setback
requirement.
K
So
0
would
be
a
normal
side
yard
setback.
You
would
see
for
a
commercial
zone.
The
eastern
half
of
the
lot
is
the
R
3,
and
that
would
be
where
the
ten-foot
side
yard
setback
would
be
required,
so
they're
requesting
that
to
be
reduced
to
zero,
so
they
can
fit
the
food
service
prep
building
in
the
top
of
page
3
you'll
see
the
other
2
items
are
that
there
were
there's
a
slight
reduction
in
the
usable
recreational
open
space
with
the
elimination
of
the
security
building.
K
The
public
benefit
that
the
applicant
is
proposing
is
listed
there
in
the
middle
of
page
three
of
your
staff
report,
the
project
itself,
revitalizing
an
aging
property
and
increasing
the
economic
vitality
in
the
area.
Replacement
of
the
public
sidewalks
along
the
project,
frontage
that
are
buckled,
cracked
and
post
tripping
hazards,
an
installation
of
street
tree
lights
along
the
project.
Frontage
is
meeting
the
city
standard
specs
for
such
lighting.
K
K
Permit
there
right
there
there
you
yeah
there
you
go
yep,
just
the
conditions,
just
the
conditions,
and
just
you
know,
enforcement
of
parking
issues
on
other
private
Lots
would
be
the
responsibility
of
those
adjacent
property
owners.
So
that's
the
nature
of
that's.
Why
you're
seeing
all
this
red
in
these
panel
comments
on
your
conditions?
K
The
last
thing
that
you
had
asked
for,
which
is
in
your
packet,
is
the
list
from
engineering
of
some
projects
that
might
be
considered.
There's
some
discussion
here
on
a
February
27th
email
regarding
the
housing
fund,
and
then
there
is
a
letter
here
dated
January
23rd
from
Friends
of
Palm
Springs
mountains
in
which
they
were
bringing
up
some
ideas
and
thoughts
about
the
possible
public
benefit.
So
that
concludes
my
staff
report.
The
action
before
you
at
this
time
is
to
make
a
determination
on
the
planned
development
district
and
the
minor
architectural
application.
K
If
you
vote
to
approve
this
project
or
deny
this
project
at
this
point,
the
planned
development
district
does
go
forward
to
the
City
Council
for
its
consideration.
That
concludes
my
staff
report.
The
applicant
is
here
in
the
audience.
If
you
have
any
questions
for
them
and
I
appreciate
your
time
and
looking
at
this,
thank
you.
I
just.
B
I'd
like
to
organize
this
discussion,
without
the
assumption
that
we've
approved
anything
until
we
take
a
final
vote
on
it,
but
I'd
like
to
go
through
these
separately.
The
first
I'd
like
people
to
go
through
if
they've
had
a
chance
to
read
the
redlined
conditions
and
see
if
they
captured
the
comments
that
people
wanted
to
include.
B
I
know
it
doesn't
include
the
public
benefit
at
this
point
in
time,
but
do
those
conditions
take
this
then
we'll
go
to
the
architectural
with
a
report
from
the
committee
and
then
lastly,
we'll
go
to
public
benefit
and
then
take
a
vote,
an
overall
vote
on
all
aspects
of
the
project,
so
every
no,
it
would
be
a
unified
vote
on
each
of
the
we.
Madam.
B
Right
and
I
think
last
time
when
we
did
it,
we
had
a
discussion
about
that.
The
last
meeting
that
we
took
them
one
by
one
but
I
think
what
we
want
to
do
is
make
sure
that
we've
got
the
whole
project
together.
So
take
things
tentatively
until
we
get
to
a
final
on
them
on
everything.
I
just
want
to
take
the
whole
project
as
a
whole.
B
G
Thank
you,
quick
question
for
Kim
and
I
get
a
couple
of
the
conditions.
How
many
parking
spaces
are
there
on
the
current
site.
G
K
G
Roughly
in
a
very
reference,
we
look
at
the
which
part
which
parts
of
this
project
if
the
parking
is
focused
on
for
having
more
than
a
doubling
of
the
intensity
in
some
sense
of
the
use
on
the
site,
if
I'm,
just
looking
parking,
there's
one
measure
of
that.
Okay,
there
are
a
couple
of
places
in
the
conditions.
Can
I
was
reading
over
them
over
last
night
that
you
had
some
concerns
about
our
conditions
and
madam
chair?
Would
that
be
appropriate
for
us
to
talk
about
some
of
those?
Yes,.
G
G
I'm
on
page
4
of
17,
it
looks
like
it's
part
of
commission
a
condition.
Adam-12
continued
from
the
previous
page
and
the
text
that
we
came
up
with
us.
The
owner
shall
post
signage
at
or
near
the
entrance
to
the
outdoor
venue
advising
client
advisor
guests
not
to
park
in
the
adjacent
parking
facilities
or
on
nearby
residential
areas.
Okay,
if
I
read
your
comment
on
that,
it
says
basically
we
can't
enforce
that,
but
we
can't
enforce
a
restriction
of
public
streets
correct
and
your
recommendation
would
be
to
delete
that
then
or
two
well.
K
We're
not
making
a
recommendation
one
way
or
the
other
I
just
wanted
you
to
understand
the
limitations
of
what
that
can
predict.
Euler
condition
imposes
okay,
in
other
words,
if,
if
one
would
have
to
figure
out,
if
there's
a
car
parked
at
a
public
street,
how
do
we
know
it's
associated
with
this
use
and
in
fact,
parking
on
a
public
street
is,
is
not
an
unlawful
activity
and.
D
Just
if
I
can
add
to
that
Planning
Commission
can
add
conditions
that
are
educational
in
nature,
and
that
was
the
intent
of
this.
As
I
understood
it
was.
You
are
educating
the
patrons
of
the
facility
that
they
are
directed
not
to
park
on
the
residential
streets,
although
technically
we
cannot
enforce
that.
But
again
it
goes
to
education,
and
so
we're
not
suggesting
that
you
remove
the
condition.
But
it
is
something
that
you
wanted
to
point
out
to
me.
The.
G
Meatiest
concern
way
back
on
PLN
16
on
page
10
of
17,
and
your
basic
comment
was
this
is
on
the
sound
monitoring
and
that
we
would
do
it's
assumed
that
we're
gonna
do
sound
monitoring
at
the
property
line,
which
is
how
we
normally
measure
these
issues
correct,
and
if
we,
you
say
technically,
no
enforcement
actually
can
be
taken
for
additional
monitoring
beyond
out
in
the
near
out
neighborhood,
because
that
would
be
moot
if
we're
meeting
the
standards
at
the
property
line.
Is
that
what
you
do
I
understand
you
correctly?
K
The
the
point
that
we
were
trying
to
clarify
is
that
the
the
measurement,
the
point
of
measurement
of
conformance,
would
be
at
the
property
line
of
the
active
site
from
which
the
sound
is
emanating
and
that,
if
you
have
conformance
at
that
point,
sound
levels
dissipate
as
you
go
further
away.
So,
if
you've
achieved
conformance
measurable
conformance
at
the
property
line,
that
would
be
moot
to
be
measuring
further
out
into
the
neighborhood.
G
G
L
I
could
just
jump
in
briefly
on
that
I.
Don't
know
that
the
comment
is
intended
to
suggest
that
sound
would
not
be
perceptible
at
a
greater
distance
from
the
site.
I
think
it's
intended
only
to
communicate
that
as
the
code
is
currently
written.
If
a
property
falls
within
the
noise
limits
that
are
established
and
measured
at
the
property
line
from
a
code
enforcement
perspective,
there
would
be
no
remedy
for
the
perceived
noise
going
beyond
the
property
line
and
being
identifiable
at
those
locations.
L
G
Let
me
let
me
follow
up
on
that,
because
I
think
that
point
is
critical,
suppose
that
we
found
that
they
were
maintaining.
They
were
meeting
the
standards
at
the
property
line,
but
that
people
were
still
complaining
out
of
the
neighborhood
and
the
Kin
would
say.
Well,
they
can't
be
complaining
legitimately,
because
you
can't
have
noise
greater
that
the
further
away
from
the
property
line.
G
Then
then
that's
where
the
neighbors
would
be
I'm,
not
sure
that
it's
always
the
case,
because
you
can
get
reflections
and
different
frequencies
and
also
the
background
noise
of
which
is
what
the
humans
perceive.
Is.
We
really
perceive
the
difference
between
what
the
background
noise
is
and
the
noise
from
the
source
here,
if
the
background
noise
decreases,
they're
going
to
people
out
in
the
neighborhood
I
hear
more
of
the
sound
that
from
the
from
the
speakers,
I,
don't
know.
C
E
H
C
B
C
Can
be
done
what
I,
what
I
could
foresee
happening
and
I'm
not
saying
it
will,
but
I
could
proceed
two
o'clock
on
a
Wednesday
afternoon
in
August.
They
don't
have
a
lot
of
business,
but
they're
serving
drinks
to
one
or
two
people
by
the
pool.
Is
that
gonna
necessitate
a
valet
parking
staff
be
on
site
at
that
point?
Well,.
K
A
C
A
You're
either
okay,
your
comment
that
it's
not
appropriate
to
condition
a
future
use
requiring
free
valet
parking.
That's
understood
now,
though,
when
it
says
on
under
I,
I
would
say
that
you
need
more
specific
for
use
as
parking
for
infusion
events.
That
way
it
covers
any
issue
of
dinks
being
used
for
something
else
in
the
future.
But
when
there
is
a
when
the
valet
is,
the
parking
is
necessary
at
twenty
eighty
North
Palm
Canyon
Drive.
It
is
for
infusion
that
there's
no
charge
for
the
valet
parking,
so
just
add,
specifically
for
uses
parking
for
infusion.
A
K
Lot
at
the
hotel
is
for
the
hotel
use
and
the
valet
service
at
the
twenty.
Eighty
lot
would
be
for
the
accessory
uses
that
are
being
proposed,
and
the
in
the
point
that
we're
sort
of
wrapping
around
here
in
completion
is
kind
of
completing
the
circle
is
that
when
those
accessory
uses
are
open,
that
valet
service
has
to
be
available
to
direct.
B
I
had
I
wanted
to
go
back
to
the
off-site
monitoring
and
I.
Think
the
the
issue
for
me
is
from
personal
experience.
The
city's
noise
ordinance
is
imperfect
and
doesn't
cover
conditions
where
you
may
get
complaints,
so
it
still
would
like
the
ability
to
do
the
off-site
monitoring
we
had
in
the
definition
of
I
just
want
to
make
sure
the
out
the
outside
ambient
music.
B
B
If
the
applicant
put
in
subwoofers
would
this
void
their
approvals?
That's
a.
K
Question
if
the
applicant
were
to
install
the
subwoofers,
it
would
be
in
violation
of
the
conditions
of
their
approval,
and
so
they
would
receive
if
it
was
determined
or
discovered.
They
would
be
sent
a
code
enforcement
notice
that
they're
in
violation
of
their
Cu
P,
and
that
those
subwoofer
components
would
need
to
be
removed.
E
D
B
D
B
B
J
Hirsch
mine,
unfortunately,
couldn't
make
it
and,
unlike
what
you
stated,
Commissioner
donenfeld
was
not
on
the
subcommittee,
so
it
was
myself
of
Maria
song
and
Tom
Drake
way
of
the
AAC,
so
it
was
three
of
us
and
then
of
course,
Ken
Lyon.
First
of
all,
the
the
applicant,
it
was
really
good
discussion.
The
applicant
had
a
presentation,
some
some
material
that
clarified
I,
think
the
subject
matter
greatly.
J
I
think
we
found
out
at
the
meeting
that
the
security
building
had
been
deleted
from
the
project
and
I
think
that
streamlined
the
whole
discussion
quite
a
bit
and
I'm
quite
happy
that
that
building
was
deleted.
We
did
spend
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
the
food
services
building
and
the
parapet,
and
the
documentation
that
the
applicant
is
providing
I
think
is,
is
very
encouraging
and
I
appreciate
the
quick
turnaround
on
it.
J
The
we
had
discussion
as
well
about
the
new
monument
sign
for
the
project
being
now
as
a
steel.
Instead
of
this
monolithic
sign,
that's
there.
Now
we
discussed
the
front
wall
along
Palm,
Canyon
and
the
nature
of
the
materials
there
again
all
around.
It
was
a
very
successful
discussion.
I
was
very
encouraged,
I
think
the
applicant,
like
I,
stated,
really
came
through
with
with
a
good
presentation
and
some
good
documentation.
I.
E
One
question
Ken
to
address
this
before
and
you
saw
it
with
respect
to
that
little
serving
window
and
the
awning
where
the
service
staff
would
go
to
get
the
food.
It
looks
to
me
as
though,
if
you
were
sitting
in
the
pool
area,
that
line
of
ficus
hedges,
if
they're,
like
whatever
they
are,
would
totally
obstruct
viewing
that
function.
You
will
you
won't
see
that
person
get
picking
up
the
food.
Will
you
you
won't
see
any
of
that
might
see
the
awning.
That's.
B
B
K
B
J
Be
addressed,
you
would
mention
that,
but
other
than
the
back
of
the
food
services
building,
which
is
really
far
back
from
from
Indian
Avenue,
really
I,
think
it
comes
down
to
landscaping
and
the
augmentation
of
land
saluting
which
can
mention
before
I
think
that'll
go
a
long
ways
towards
helping
the
curbside
appeal.
Yeah.
K
K
B
J
J
M
J
B
B
B
G
G
And
although
it's
not
explicitly
called
out
of
the
restrictions,
the
the
potential
for
future
restrictions
on
the
Dinks
site,
right,
part
of
that
and
that's
an
architect
very
significant
building
courts,
not
historic
yet
like
not
having
been
around
long
enough.
But
it's
a
very
significant
building
that
the
city
of
the
be
but
don't
want
to
see,
be
successful.
So.
B
We
had
four
different
proposals:
I
had
a
dollar
amount
in
mind,
I,
don't
know
if
anybody
I
dug
it.
E
Was
that
a
question
Ken
emphasized?
His
argument
is
basically
based
on
a
concept
of
proportionality
and
I
have
looked
at
this
ordinance
a
million
times,
but
it
ought
recall.
Maybe
Michael
can
enlighten
us
is
proportionality.
One
of
the
considerations
the
Commission
is
to
be
making
when
considering
what
level
a
public
benefit
is
to
be
designated.
L
E
Kendon,
although
the
chairman
mentioned
the
intensity
of
the
use,
the
change
of
the
use
being
a
much
more
intense
use
than
it
is
today
as
being
an
important
element
to
this
project.
But
that's
not
really
a
zoning
issue
per
se
and
I
wonder:
can
we
consider
that
in
Disgaea
in
deciding
whether
or
what
the
proportionality
should
be
with
respect
to
the
public
benefit
the
intensity?
E
The
the
new
and
intense
use
of
the
site
is
that
a
criterion
that
can
be
used
in
deciding
what
is
proportionate
to
the
public
for
the
public
benefit
calculation
I
know
you,
we
looked
at
setbacks
and
we're
looking
at
other
things
that
are
development,
standards
that
are
being
being
in
valley,
parking
that
are
being
changed
and
land
use
permit.
There
are
all
sorts
of
other
things,
but
the
intensity
of
the
use
is
the
concept
of
the
business
plan,
but
where
does
it?
E
K
Absolutely
if
you
were
looking
at
a
series
of
proposed
uses,
an
applicant
was
interested
in
adding
to
a
site
and
they
could
not
come
up
with
a
solution
for
how
to
park
it
or
how
to
place
it
on
the
site,
which
is
where
you're
getting
into
the
squishing
things
onto
the
site
and
asking
for
relief
on
setbacks,
and
all
that
I
mean
you're,
pushing
the
setbacks
a
way
to
make
this
additional
use
fit
in
the
same
way.
You're.
K
The
numbers
roundly
here
so
I
could
make
my
math
work
in
my
head.
Let's
say
they
wanted
900
people,
they
would
have
needed
300
parking
spaces,
but
the
Commission
limited
the
capacity
to
meet
the
parking,
so
their
capacity
is
210
people
because
they
only
found
70
spaces
at
a
valet
use
to
support
that
use,
so
they're
parking
meets
the
demand,
so
they've
not
now
asked
for
relief
other
than
that
it'd
be
parked
according
to
a
valet
system,
rather
than
self
Park.
Does
that
as
you're.
E
Saying
is
the
ability
to
house
for
a
special
event,
200
plus
people.
That
alone
does
not
require
any
sort
of
a
special
consideration,
variance
or
waiver
of
requirements.
It's
the
attendant
issues
that
are
requiring
us
to
make
these
variance
determinations,
so
the
use
itself
isn't
is
not
to
be
considered.
E
You
know
our
thought
is
gee
they're
going
to
have
a
very
potent
the
active
corner,
their
cupboards
the
sight
their
that
these
never
had
before
and
their
neighbors
who
might
choose
comes
in
concerns,
and
we,
as
a
Planning
Commission,
are
concerned
about
the
livability
aspect
to
this
through
this
new
and
intense
use.
Having
said
that,
is
that
a
proper
consideration
to
be
making
in
determining
what
the
size
of
the
public
benefit
should
be?
E
L
Don't
disagree
with
how
ken
is
presented
and
frame
the
issue
I
think
it's
a
bit
hard
to
disentangle,
but
when
we're
talking
about
the
change
in
use,
a
lot
of
that
was
considered
and
handled
with
the
Cu
P
to
allow
these
types
of
uses
on
the
property.
And
then,
as
Ken
has
mentioned,
parking
has
been
addressed
in
terms
of
the
quantified
number
of
required
spaces,
but
then
made
possible
through
the
granting
of
the
variance,
and
that
is,
she
was
really
related
to
the
distance
from
the
site.
So.
B
I,
don't
think
I
would
have
taken
the
first
two
votes
and
I
was
wondering
if
we
can
undo
that
and
take
them
all
at
once,
so
that
it's
I
mean
I.
Think
this
is
an
intense
use.
I
I
think
it's
a
big
intensification
of
the
use
of
a
site
and
I
think
there
should
be
a
public
benefit
for
it,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
other
people
agree
with
me,
but
I
wouldn't
mind
if
the
fact
that
we
accidentally
took
the
votes
in
that
order
before
we.
C
F
C
L
My
my
belief
in
my
position
would
be.
The
vote
has
already
been
taken,
the
entitlements
that
the
Commission
took
a
vote
on,
namely
the
variance
and
the
Cu
P
for
these
accessory
uses.
So
it's
not
something
that
I
feel
the
Commission
can
unwind
at
this
point.
Having
taken
that
vote
in
the
affirmative.
A
This
it
sounds
like
what
you're
saying
is
the
determination
of
proportionality
is
ours,
because
we're
not
getting
all
that
much
assistance
in
determining
proportionality,
based
on
what
we
have
already
approved,
or
what
other
projects
would
have
done.
Is
that
correct?
So
it's
really
up
to
us
to
figure
out
what
proportionality
is.
L
In
terms
of
deciding
that
proportionality,
the
Planning
Commission
in
making
a
recommendation
to
approve
the
PD
D
needs
to
be
satisfied
that
they
feel
the
applicant
has
offered
something
appropriate.
Given
the
deviations
they're
seeking
it's
ultimately
up
to
the
applicant
to
say
this
is
what
I
propose
to
do.
Does
that
meet
your
expectations?
So
we
would
only.
L
In
the
in
the
past,
in
fact,
we
you
know
the
applicant
will
propose,
propose
something
and
the
Planning
Commission
as
well
within
its
rights
to
say
we
see
what
you're
offering
up.
However,
we
think
you
know
X
Y,
&
Z
would
actually
be
a
better
fit
for
our
expectations
and
that's
that's
sort
of
a
heavy-handed
recommendation
and,
if
they're
willing
to
move
on
with
that,
that
typically
has
resulted
in
a
recommendation
to
the
City
Council
to
move
forward
with
the
project.
That's.
A
E
But
what
Michael
is
saying
is
we
have
to
be.
We
have
to
be
guided
by
the
law
for
for
deciding
a
public
benefit,
and
he
is
saying
that
you
only
get
to
the
public
benefit
question
if
you're
decide,
if
you're
giving
relief
under
a
PD,
and
so
we
look
to
the
relief
we're
giving
under
the
PD
for
this
project
to
determine
what
is
proportionate
to
that
relief
for
purposes
of
determining
the
value
of
the
public
benefit.
K
K
K
K
K
The
when
you're
looking
at
public
benefit
and
you're
looking
at
what
is
the
relief
from
the
development
standards
that
the
applicant
is
seeking?
What
is
the
relief
that
the
developer
is
asking
from
the
zoning
code
standards
to
accomplish
this
project?
They're
asking
for
a
reduction
in
the
side,
yard
setback,
they're.
E
A
K
G
C
K
Your
concern
and
I
understand
that
is
about
about
the
intensification
of
use
and
part
of
what
your
job
is.
When
you
look
at
a
project,
that's
proposing
an
intensification
of
use
is,
is
it
causing
any
significant
adverse
impacts?
That's
the
term
that
comes
out
of
sequa.
Is
this
proposed
use,
causing
any
significant
adverse
impact
or
the
potential
for,
and
that's
why
we
pulled
together
a
traffic
study
at
a
parking
study,
an
acoustical
study
and
did
the
full
initial
study
questionnaire.
That
was
part
of
the
sequel
analysis.
A
K
A
K
That's
the
concept
in
the
process
of
what
happens
with
sequel
when
you
have
mitigation
measures
which
the
applicant
agreed
in
writing
to
implement.
So
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
helping
or
not
but
I'm
trying
to
sort
of
bring
it
together
so
that
your
concerns
about
gosh.
This
is
more,
you
see
intensification
of
use.
A
B
Not
and
and
we
have
new
direction,
but
we
don't
have
the
new
PD
ordinance
yet
so
why
don't
I?
Just
we
do
have
some
adverse
impact
or
we
not
adverse
impact,
but
we
do
have
the
ability
to
impose
some
public
benefit.
What
I
want
to
first
just
suggest
that
we
say
that
the
project
itself
is
not
a
public
benefit.
A
B
In
terms
of
public
benefit,
I
would
like
us
to
impose
something
as
a
public
benefit
and
if
it's
proportional
we
have
in
the
past,
we
could
look
at
affordable
housing,
which
we've
been
asked
to
do
by
council
in
the
future
and
some
contribution
into
an
affordable
housing
fund.
We
could
look
at
parks,
since
it
is
a
smaller
impact
than
I
was
thinking.
It
was
I,
think
the
dollar
amount.
B
G
B
G
Agreeing
with
you,
okay,
I'm
a
little
concerned,
I
would
prefer
to
have
a
thing
that
can
actually
be
implemented
in
a
meaningful
way
in
the
short
term,
and
that
would
probably
exclude
them.
The
the
low-income
housing
until
we
have
a
lauren
compels
a
really
a
program
in
place
for
it
all
income
housing
is
$50,000.
It's
not
going
to
by
itself
do
very
much
you're
going
to
begin
to
get
bureaucracy,
but
not
actually
any
improvements.
C
C
C
B
C
H
C
K
Walked
the
site
and
I've
seen
a
couple
of
areas
where
there
has
been
some
heaving
of
the
sidewalk
slabs
adjacent
to
the
palm
tree
wells.
The
discussion,
that's
on
the
Thomas
Garcia
email
that
talks
about
site-specific
ad,
a
improvements,
rafts,
driveways
and
sidewalks.
That's
not
that's
the
ramps,
driveways
and
sidewalks
that
lead
from
the
street
into
the
parking
lot.
So
it's
technically
not
on
their
site.
That's
the
driveway,
the
sidewalks
that
are
the
public
sidewalks
that
intersect
with
those
driveways.
So
that's
the
cross
slope.
It's
so.
C
C
A
C
E
Just
never
thought
having
just
served
on
the
CDBG
Review
Committee
on
behalf
of
the
Planning
Commission,
which
is
the
federal
program
for
infrastructure
improvements.
It's
very
clear
to
me
that
the
city
is
very
concerned
about
pedestrian
fatalities
and
accidents
happening
all
over
the
city
and
so
they're
very
concerned
about
the
restriping
program
and
their
sidewalk
gap
closure
program
which
they're
the
sidewalk
restriping
plan
for
crosswalks
and
for
the
sidewalk
gap
closures,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
where
there
are
huge
gaps
and
pedestrians,
then
walk
into
the
streets
and
they're
attracted
nuisances.
B
E
B
C
E
G
G
B
A
A
An
earlier
windstorm
it
was
that
it
accepted
and
approved
yes,
so
where
mr.
Garcia
says
has
a
nexus
to
the
development
in
question
that
doesn't
actually
have
to
be
the
case.
Given
this
example
of
the
trees,
correct,
I'm,
sorry,
Peter
I
know
mr.
Garcia's
email
says,
although
we
have
several
unfunded
projects,
few
have
any
Nexus
to
the
development
in
question,
but
that
isn't
really
relevant
and
given
the
fact
that
we've
had
planted
trees
elsewhere,
they
had
nothing
to
it.
The
sole
development
well.
B
B
G
B
B
A
Have
a
question
to
staff
about
how
this
would
these
funds
would
be
dear
mark
I,
remember
a
discussion
last
time
regarding
the
brewery
that
was
moving
in
and
the
question
had
to
do
with
the
money
that
was
to
be
put
into
a
fund
for
parking.
But
then
the
answer
was
that
the
City
Council
has
complete
control
over.
That
use.
Is
that.
D
The
same
you
know
this
is
different
in
that
the
fee
and
lieu
program
is
specifically
identified
in
the
city's
zoning
code.
Relative
for
the
development
of
parking
facilities
and
again
City
Council
is
the
one
who
determines
where
that
money
is
spent.
This
is
different
in
that
the
Planning
Commission
is
making
a
recommendation
on
public
benefit.
B
D
B
G
B
G
D
Go
ahead
and
I
believe
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
vote
first
on
the
planned
development
district
application.
As
part
of
that,
we
will
include
the
changes
to
the
conditions
of
approval
and
I
have
I
believe
three
here,
one
is
the
you
had
requested
the
city
attorney
developed
language
on
the
valet
parking
requirement
in
terms
of
the
valet
parking
needing
to
be
available
at
hours
that
the
accessory
use
is
open.
The
second
is
relative
to
planning
condition
15
I,
which
is
the
valet
at
no
charge
to
infusion
Beach.
D
B
G
G
G
G
Well,
we
don't
say
what
we're
gonna
do
if
we're
still
getting
complaints.
If
it's
meeting
the
ordinance
we're
gonna,
that's
really
could
be
the
limit
of
our
ability
to
have
to
have
affected
we'll
see,
I
I
think
we're
as
good
as
we
can
get
right
now,
but
it's
still
gonna
be
a
learning
process
for
us
going
forward.
B
C
B
A
B
B
B
A
C
B
Forward
we
are
on
Planning
Commission
reports.
We
were
going
to
have
a
discussion
about
our
subcommittees,
but
we
do
have
commissioner,
our
city,
council,
member,
sorry,
Lisa
Lisa
Middleton
here
with
us,
who
is
our
new
liaison,
our
she
is
our
liaison
to
the
City
Council
and
I
would
like
to
ask
her
to
come
up
and
join
us
it'll.
Allow
her
to
talk
to
us
about
some
of
the
newer
policies
of
the
council
and
let
people
ask
her
a
few
questions.
K
M
But
the
idea
emanated
from
conversations
we
had
with
a
number
of
Commissioners
I,
don't
recall
that
being
anyone
on
the
Planning
Commission,
the
felt
they
needed
a
better
connection
to
City
Council
that
they
wanted
city
council
to
be
more
aware
of
issues
that
were
going
on
within
their
Commission's
and
have
an
easier
opportunity
to
connect
with
the
City
Council
on
issue.
So
we
we
divided
things
up
people
volunteered
for
for
various
and
I
volunteered.
M
When
meetings
take
place
and
I,
don't
think
what
our
schedules
will
be
able
to
be,
quite
as
as
consistent
as
the
Planning
Commission
is,
and
always
having
someone
at
AAC,
but
to
be
there
to
not
speak
during
the
meetings,
certainly
not
to
try
to
influence
any
any
discussions
or
decisions
that
come
from
the
Commission,
but
to
be
available
in
part
to
one's
own
colleagues.
Afterwards,
when
there
are
questions
what
happened
at
this,
this
meeting
to
be
able
to
relay
back
to
to
City
Council.
This
is
what
in
fact
went
on
the
other
thing.
M
M
I
know
you've
been
working
very
hard
on
PDD
issues
and
trying
to
follow
up
that
on
that
and
as
well
as
the
conversation
that
just
took
place,
what
is
the
appropriate
public
benefit
when
there
is
a
PD
D
and
we
are
have
taken
some
actions
both
in
this
commission
and
its
planning,
our
City
Council
level,
to
try
to
make
changes
in
in
that
those
have
not
been
enacted
as
yet.
But
it's
it's
something
that
we
certainly
want
to
look
at.
M
G
G
The
whole
time
I've
been
here
on
this
Commission
that's
been
an
issue
and
I.
Hopefully
that
will
improve
and
and
I
think
it's
very
important
sometimes
that
you,
let
us
know
what
the
council
is
doing,
not
on
a
specific
item
per
se,
but
in
general,
if
something's
coming
up
that
may
affect
our
work.
That
would
be
a
really
good
thing
to
let
us
know
what's
happening
at
the
council
level.
B
B
The
new
transparency
ordinance,
which
is
so
will
be
coming
into
effect
and
then
maybe
between
you
and
Flint,
talked
a
little
bit
about
what's
happening
with
sign
programs.
I,
don't
know
if
anybody
listen
to
the
last
council
meeting
where
the
sign
or
a
sign
program
went
directly
to
City
Council
and
we
were
not
part
of
it,
which
was
terrific.
M
M
That's
the
new
project
on
Tok
WITSEC
are
the
refurbishing
of
the
project
on
tahquitz
canyon
and
it
went
directly
from
AAC
to
to
City
Council,
and
it
turns
out
that
there
was
some
time
in
the
course
of
adopting
the
new
sign
ordinance,
a
provision
in
there
that
moved
the
approval
of
signed
programs
from
the
Planning
Commission
and
had
them
go
directly
from
AAC
to
City.
Council
I.
Don't
recall
anyone
conversing
with
what
Planning
Commission
as
to
why
they
were
doing
that.
B
M
So
my
my
request,
which
was
not
acted
upon,
was
that
we
still
had
the
discretion
to
defer
back
to
the
Planning
Commission,
and
my
colleagues
wanted
to
get
that
particular
matter
resolved,
but
I
think
I
did
during
the
course
of
that
meeting,
get
at
least
one,
maybe
two
of
of
the
council
members
that
are
interested
in
revisiting
that
decision
to
bypass
the
Planning
Commission,
so
I
know
you
guys
were
thrilled
not
to
get
it,
but
I
think
it
belongs
here.
Yes,.
E
E
D
Don't
know
that
that
was
the
indication
I
believe
one
of
the
things
that
I
heard
in
the
subcommittee
discussions
was.
They
felt
that
waivers
from
the
sign
code
should
be
considered
by
the
City
Council
I.
Don't
think
that
there
was
any
discussion
relative
to
the
work
that
the
Planning
Commission
had
done
as
part
of
that.
M
J
M
B
B
M
Transparency
was
another
issue
that
has
come
up
in
what
this
does
flow
out
of
the
ethics
government,
reform
and
transparency
task
force
and
over
the
course
of
this
year,
and
particularly
over
the
course
of
the
next
few
months,
City
Council
will
be
reviewing
all
of
the
recommendations
that
were
made,
and
it's
a
ninety
I
think,
maybe
seven
page
report
with
an
incredible
number
of
of
recommendations
at
last.
My
understanding
is
approximately
a
third
of
those
recommendations
were
administrative
in
nature
and
have
been
acted
on.
M
Administrative
leave
and
I
think
we
simply
need
to
get
a
good
report
for
the
public
that
identifies
what
has
actions
have
taken
place
so
that
they
can
follow
up
on
on
those.
But
a
matter
that
was
dealt
with
at
the
last
City
Council
meeting
is
a
change
in
our
ordinance.
We,
it
comes
to
two
areas
and
one
is
really
very
straightforward.
M
Currently,
if
you
are-
and
it
would
apply
to
commissioners
here-
just
in
the
same
fashion
applies
to
city
council
members,
if
you
own
property
within
500
feet
of
a
project
that
is
up
for
approval,
then
you
have
to
recuse
yourself.
This
change
will
add.
If
you
rent
property
and
it
essentially
treats
the
rental
of
a
property
as
the
same
as
owning
a
property
for
purposes
of
a
recusal,
if
you
had
a
financial
interest
in
a
project
or
property
that
was
coming
before
this
body,
you
would
need
to
recuse
yourself
from
that
financial
from
that
matter.
C
M
M
There
is
a
request
for
funding
and
we
provide
grants,
obviously
not
from
this
body,
but
we
do
provide
grants
to
organizations,
and
the
sense
is
that,
certainly
you
should
not
be
approving
a
grant
for
an
organization
that
you
are
a
member
of,
but
also
if
there
are
larger
grants
that
are
being
approved
in
your
organization.
Is
one
of
the
applicants
there's
some
question
as
to
in
approving
money
for
a
B
and
C?
Are
you
defining
what
is
available
for
D,
which
happens
to
be
your
organization.
B
M
A
A
Because
I
had
heard
that
this
was
coming
up
and
I
and
I
thought
well
I'm
a
board
member
of
the
Polish
minor
committee.
If
there
is
an
issue,
a
preservation
issue
that
the
modern
committee
has
taken
as
a
position
on,
does
that
mean
that
I
can't
vote
when
that
project
comes
forward?
And
he
said
the
only
issue
is
if
the
monitor
community
is
the
applicant,
so
it
doesn't
matter
if
we
have
a
taken
a
position
on
something.
If
we're
not
the
applicant.
M
I
think
would
be
reflective
of
what
I
understand.
City
Council
would
intend
to
be
the
case,
but
there's
always
when
you're
dealing
with
new
areas
of
law,
those
questions
of
making
sure
that
the
drafting
is
such,
and
since
this
has
only
gone
to
first
reading,
it
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
address
some
of
those
specific
questions
and
pump
springs.
Modern
is
a
perfect
example.
Yeah.
A
I
really
would
like
clarification
on
that,
because
I
thought
one
of
the
reasons
why
and
I
think
we
all
have
specialties
and
that
we
were
appointed
to
this
commission
is
because
we
have
specific
knowledge
about
things.
In
my
case
of
cultural
resources
and
I
would
hate
to
have
to
make
a
decision.
Do
I
stay
in
the
commission
or
do
I
have
to
leave
the
board
of
the
modern
Committee,
because
we
take
a
position.
The
modern
committee
takes
position
on
whatever.
M
A
G
Read
the
ordinance
about
a
week
ago-
and
it
was
a
little
at
leastwe-
I,
read
a
little
loosey-goosey
between
the
definition
of
a
fiduciary
interest,
which
is
what's
fairly
clear
and
being
a
member
of
an
organization
that
should
be
clarified,
because,
just
because
you're,
a
member
of
an
organization
doesn't
does
it
really,
in
my
view,
having
a
conflict.
You've
got
to
be
on
the
board
of
directors
or
something
where
you
actually
in
news.
Your
interest
in.
M
B
And
and
also
neighborhood
organizations
where
it's
actually
been
valuable
to
us
that
people
are
on
the
boards
of
neighborhood
organizations
very
much
and
for
them
not
to
be
able
for
them
to
have
to
recuse
themselves.
On
an
issue
that
comes
up
in
their
neighborhood
seems
to
me
to
be
too
limiting.
Okay,.
M
The
burden
of
proof
was
to
the
applicant
to
demonstrate
either
to
staff.
If
it
was
approved
at
that
level
or
to
this
body,
if
it
was
yours
that
in
fact
you
they
were
persuasive
to
you,
that
this
was
the
solar
would
be
financially
problematic
for
the
property
to
an
extent
that
you
didn't
feel
it
was
appropriate
to
to
apply
that
requirement
or
that
they
were
convincing
that
technologically
it
just
wasn't
practical
to
to
put.
M
That
does
throw
an
awful
lot
of
interpretation
of
circumstances
back
to
to
this
group
and
and
I
can
appreciate
when
that
first
application
comes
in
saying
this
house
is
going
to
be
X
price
without
solar
and
Y
price
with
Sol
are
you're
going
to
be
looking
at.
Does
that
make
a
sense
or
not,
and
we'll
have
to
get
some
of
the
individual
circumstances?
M
Where
they
came
in
and
made
an
argument
not
to
include
solar,
and
this
group
had
pretty
consistently
asked
for
solar
on
on
projects
and
and
concluded
that
with
the
price
point
that
was
being
specifically
quoted
for
that
project,
that
it
was
a
reasonable
exception
and
City
Council
certainly
did
not
try
to
route
review.
It
so
I
think
you've
got
a
reference
point
with
with
64.
In
terms
of
where
to
begin
those
conversations.
E
Mearkle
in
do
we
have
a
procedure
when
the
when
City
Council
passes
an
ordinance
that
directly
affects
our
commission
and
the
way
we
operate
things
we
consider
with
the
lorentz.
What
is
the
means
by
which
we
become
aware
of
it?
I
know.
Obviously,
if
we
watch
TV
and
see
what
the
council's
doing
we
can
pick
up
on
it,
but
typically
does
it
then,
once
it's
passed
and
put
into
law,
come
back
to
you
to
notify
us
so
that
we
know,
for
example,
the
codification
of
what
you've
just
discussed.
It
is
an
ordinance
form
now.
B
E
D
D
E
I
think
one
thing
we'll
be
very
careful
about
I
know
you
don't
want
us
knowing
very
often
we
sit
around
here
wondering
what
does
City
Council
gonna
think
about
this
or
what
is
their
position
on
this?
It
would
be
totally
inappropriate
for
us
to
call
you
out
at
this
meeting.
You're
really
here
to
monitor
and.
M
G
B
B
E
C
M
D
B
C
B
We
could
have,
we
could
have
voted
on
money
today
and
and
asked
city
council
to
establish
a
fund
right
now.
The
only
fund
we
have
is
a
successor
to
the
Redevelopment
Agency,
and
it's
not
good
to
put
fresh
money
into
that
because
of
the
ability
of
the
RTA
to
pull
money
back
or
the
state
to
pull
money
back
from
the
RTA.
B
So
the
suggestion
that
the
City
City
sets
up
a
fund
for
the
future
will
make
it
easier
for
us
and
Jake
made
the
language
so
broad
that
it
it
would
allow
help
for
the
homeless,
with
an
equivalent
of
vouchers.
To
helping
do
the
census
account
to
production
housing
I
mean
saving
units
were
in
danger
of
losing,
but
it
it
would
just
be
a
very
broad
fund
that
we
could
begin
if
we
did
do
a
public
benefit
that
we
could
put
money
into.
C
M
B
M
B
M
Would
love
to
join
you
and
I
would
like
to
congratulate
Commissioner
or
woods
and
Commissioner
Morrissey
on
joining
us.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
D
Me
suggest
this
to
you
as
the
Commission.
One
of
the
things
that
I
will
want
to
bring
to
your
next
meeting
is
to
revisit
our
bylaws
and
in
specific
one
of
the
things
that
we've
discussed
doing
is
to
put
into
the
bylaws
that
we
may
go
dark
as
a
commission
in
August
and
so
under
the
direction
of
the
city
attorney.
He
has
recommended
that
we
revise
our
bylaws
accordingly.
D
What
we
might
also
include,
as
part
of
that
discussion,
is
a
discussion
of
subcommittees,
because
currently
we
don't
reference
subcommittees
in
our
bylaws
and
I,
think
that
would
be
the
appropriate
place
to
do
it,
and
so
we
can
have
a
discussion
at
that
point
in
time
in
terms
of
how
that
should
operate.
So
I'll
schedule
that
for
our
next
agenda
on
March,
the
14th.
D
S
I've
got
a
couple
of
items.
One
of
the
reports
that
I
needed
to
give
you
was
from
our
last
meeting
relative
to
looking
to
brewing.
There
was
an
error
in
terms
of
the
number
of
parking
spaces
on
site
in
our
report,
and
so
mister
Malachor
went
back
and
visited
the
site
as
well,
as
did
some
additional
research
on
the
discrepancy
in
the
spaces.
What
we
discovered
is
there
are
21
spaces
on
site.
It
was
originally
developed
with
23
spaces,
not
24.
As
we
had
reported
what
we
discovered
was.
D
They
were
required
to
install
an
elevator
to
the
second
story
about
two
years
after
the
building
was
completed,
I
believe-
and
at
that
point
in
time
they
lost
two
parking
spaces
and
also
paid
a
fee
in
lieu
at
that
point
in
time,
and
that's
something
that
we
didn't
have
in
any
of
our
records
elsewhere.
Long
story
short,
although
we
were
off
on
the
original
number
of
spaces
in
a
lot,
the
Delta
as
mr.
Keller
Dene
refers
to
it
or
the
difference
in
the
number
of
parking
spaces
that
would
be
required.
Based
on
the
uses.
D
Are
there
still
is
seven
spaces
based
on
your
discussion?
How
I
think
we
will
handle
that
is
LaQuinta
brewing
in
and
of
itself
would
be
required
to
pay
the
in
lieu
fee
for
five
spaces.
That
still
leaves
a
deficit
of
two
spaces
and
how
I
think
I
will
handle.
That
is
the
next
restaurant
that
goes
in
would
then
be
required
to
pay
the
in
lieu
fees
for
those
two
spaces,
and
so
with
the
agreement
of
the
Planning
Commission.
That's
how
I
will
handle
that
situation
there.
B
D
That
was
a
condition
of
your
approval.
The
other
thing
as
chair
Warwick
has
already
indicated.
Unfortunately,
we
were
losing
mr
dout,
and
so
we
wanted
to
have
a
lunch
with
him
on
March
the
14th.
We
will
tentatively
schedule
that
for
11:45
a.m.
at
a
location
to
be
disclosed
as
soon
as
we
are
able
to
make
reservations,
and
so
we'll
invite
you
all
to
attend
that
March,
the
14th.
So
before
our
next
Planning
Commission
meeting
you.
E
G
B
A
D
D
Other
things
to
report,
as
I
indicated
I
should
have
had
copies
of
the
solar
policy
here
for
you
all
today,
I
will
email
those
to
you
so
that
you
have
a
copy
of
it
and
then
we
will
provide
that
to
you
again
the
next
time
we
have
a
residential
property,
come
before
you
for
discretionary
approvals,
so
that
you
can
refer
to
the
policy
as
we
consider
the
application.
The
final
thing
that
I
wanted
to
pass
out
to
you
is
just
Department
statistics
on
the
number
of
applications
that
we
handle
each
year.
B
A
D
We
still
do
that.
We
have
that
available
on
our
website
on
the
Planning
Department
page.
There
is
a
list
of
project
status.
In
addition
to
that,
we
also
list
all
of
the
applications
that
we
receive
from
the
previous
month,
and
so
both
of
those
reports
are
available
on
our
planning
department
website
on
this
chart.
I
just
want
to
point
out
the
very
last
column
fiscal
year.
D
2016
2017
is
the
most
recent
year
for
which
we
have
compiled
statistics
you'll
see
at
the
bottom
of
the
first
table
that
we
processed
a
total
of
1666
applications,
reviews
and
inspections
in
the
past
year.
The
next
little
table
down
below
indicates
the
number
of
staff
members
we
have
in
the
department.
We
then
do
a
little
math
there
to
show
you
that
each
of
my
staff
members
is
processing
about
two
hundred
and
thirty-eight
different
cases
a
year,
and
so
that
gives
you
just
an
idea
of
the
volume
of
cases.
D
What's
a
little
bit
difficult
to
explain
to
each
of
my
boards
and
commissions:
is
you
all,
as
the
Planning
Commission
probably
see
on
average,
about
70
to
80
cases
a
year,
I
would
guess
Historic
Site
Preservation
Board
probably
sees
about
3035
AACC's,
probably
somewhere
in
the
same
vicinity.
As
you
see,
that's
only
a
small
portion
of
all
of
the
cases
that
we
process,
and
so
just
it's
helpful,
to
have
an
understanding
that
staff
is
working
very
hard
on
things.
Sometimes
we
make
mistakes.
D
A
B
B
D
Always
a
difficult
thing
and
keep
in
mind
that
in
a
809
we
were
in
the
recession
at
that
point
in
time
or
just
entering
into
the
recession
and
had
made
staff
cuts
to
adjust
for
that
yet
and
so
I
don't
want
to
give
the
impression
that
that
was
the
perfect
ratio
of
cases
per
plan
or
things
like
that.
But
again,
cities
need
to
make
adjustment.
D
So
anyway,
you'll
just
see
it's
just
interesting
to
note.
Over
the
last
three
years,
the
years
that
I've
been
here,
we've
maintained
more
or
less
the
same
number
of
cases
that
we've
been
very
busy
as
a
city
and
I
think
that's
a
positive
sign
in
terms
of
economic
development
and
the
things
that
are
going
on
here
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
So
the
story
is
not
just
that
we're
overworked,
but
rather
that
positive
things
are
happening
in
the
city
and
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
are
going
on.
D
That
I
think
are
beneficial
for
the
city
and
so
again,
I
just
share
that
with
you.
Just
so
you're
aware
of
what
some
of
the
staff
is
is
dealing
with
on
a
regular
basis
in
terms
of
the
number
of
cases
with
that.
That
concludes
my
reports
to
you
and,
thank
you
all
and
again,
we
would
like
to
welcome
mr.
woods
to
the
Planning
Commission
happy
to
have
you
here
today.
So
thank
you.
D
B
D
Yet
I
need
to
get
just
a
little
bit
further
with
the
PDD
subcommittee
and
then
we'll
start
in
on
the
demolition
issue
as
well
and
while
I'm
at
it.
We
do
need
to
schedule
the
next
meeting
of
the
PDD
subcommittee,
and
so,
if
I
could
just
speak
with
you
briefly
after
the
meeting
we'll
schedule
that
next
day.
B
The
other
thing
is
that
the
park
at
the
downtown
park
they've
scheduled
a
meeting
with
all
of
the
stakeholders.
That
is
not
their
planning,
I
believe
from
consul
to
do
approvals
of
the
park
at
that
larger
meeting
and
not
bring
them
through
all
of
the
different
boards
and
commissions
that
would
normally
review
it
and
one
question
for
Flynn:
we
have
two
members
who've
been
on
it
historically.