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A
Good
evening,
I'd
like
to
call
the
regular
meeting
of
the
february
24th
2021
planning
commission
of
the
city
of
palm
springs.
To
order
can
we
have
a
roll
call.
A
A
A
Can
I
have
an
acceptance
or
a
report
in
the
posting
of
the
agenda?
Please.
A
E
A
Yes,
we
are
at
public
schools
and
I'm
getting
an
echo
so.
A
If,
if
staff
has
their
mics
open,
it
might
help
with
the
echo,
if
you
could
mute
yourself
we're
at
public
comment.
This
is
a
time
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
planning
commission
on
consent,
calendar
and
other
items
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter.
Jurisdiction
of
the
commission.
Please
note
that
the
planning
commission
is
prohibited
from
taking
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
A
F
No,
madam
chair,
we
have
not
received
any
requests
to
speak
via
telephone,
but
if
there's
anyone
on
the
zoom
call
who
wishes
to
speak
at
this
time,
that
would
be
the
appropriate
time
to
unmute
your
microphone
and
provide
your
testimony.
Otherwise,
if
you're
here
to
speak
on
the
public
hearing,
items
or
public
hearing
item
2b
or.
A
A
We
have
two
public
hearing
items
item
two:
a
request
by
evolved
engineering,
llc
on
behalf
of
morgue
llc,
for
a
conditional
use
permit
to
operate
a
type
6
non-volatile
cannabis
facility
to
include
manufacturing
cultivation,
dispensary
distribution
and
a
lounge
in
a
vacant
industrial
building
with
an
existing
business
park
located
at
1241,
south
gene
autry
trail
staff
report.
Please.
D
F
A
D
D
D
In
doing
that,
there
were
concerns
about
the
impact
of
that
change
by
no
longer
requiring
a
conditional
use
permit
and
a
public
hearing.
Let
me
just
offer
some
additional
considerations
to
take
into
account
as
you
consider
this.
First
of
all,
it
is
in
the
ordinance
that
the
restaurant
use
must
be
in
accessory
use,
so
we
wouldn't
see
a
situation
where
there
is
a
standalone
or
a
restaurant
as
a
principal
use.
D
Secondly,
drive-through
uses
are
not
allowed
in
the
p
professional
zone,
and
so
there
wouldn't
be
a
situation
where
we
would
see
a
fast
food
restaurant
with
a
drive-through
in
the
p
professional
zone,
and
then
the
third
thing
to
take
into
consideration
is
when
you
have
restaurant
uses
in
an
office
district
or
in
an
office
zone.
Typically,
those
restaurants
rely
on
the
foot
traffic
of
the
office
uses
and
it's
rare
to
see
those
have
hours
that
are
different
than
those
of
the
office
uses
if
you've
been
to
any
type
of
a
business
park.
D
I
can
think
of
a
couple
of
examples:
san
diego
in
one
where
there
are
restaurants
in
an
office
zone.
Again
they
typically
close
at
about
the
same
time
as
the
office
uses.
You
won't
see
those
go
late
into
the
evening
generally,
and
so.
Based
on
that,
I
think
those
are
some
considerations
you
need
to
be
aware
of.
Also,
let
me
speak
just
briefly
in
terms
of
the
general
approval
procedures
for
restaurants
in
other
commercial
and
multi-family
zones.
Just
so
you
have
a
point
of
comparison.
D
The
restaurant
use
does
require
a
land
use
permit
in
the
central
business
district,
so
in
our
downtown
area
requires
a
land
use
permit,
which
is
an
administrative
permit,
reviewed
and
approved
by
staff
and
then
also
in
the
m1
and
m2
industrial
zones.
The
only
zones
where
restaurants
require
conditional
use
permits
currently
are
our
multi-family
zones
are
2,
r3
and
r4,
where
the
restaurant
is
accessory
to
a
hotel
use
or
in
the
p
professional
zone.
D
D
So
if
you
were
to
make
that
change,
the
restaurant
use
would
be
permitted
within
that
complex
upon
approval
of
a
land
use
permit.
That
is
one
that
does
back
up
to
an
r1b
single
family
zone.
However,
there
is
a
parking
lot
that
separates
that
commercial
complex
from
the
single-family
residential
looking
at
the
area
on
east
vista
chino.
This
is
an
area
where
you
do
start
to
see
some
single-family
residences
that
back
up
to
the
p
professional
zone.
D
D
There
is
the
area
on
south
feral.
It's
unlikely
that
you
would
see.
Restaurant
uses
go
into
those
office
complexes
in
that
they
don't
really
have
a
desirable
location
for
a
restaurant
there.
Just
based
on
the
configuration
of
the
properties
you
do
have
office
uses
here
at
talkwitz
and
sunrise,
just
behind
the
commercial
uses
there
they
tend
to
back
up
to
r2
multi-family
zone
properties.
D
D
As
we
question
why
this
might
be
important.
One
of
the
things
to
understand
is
that,
under
the
regional
housing
needs
assessment,
which
we
are
subject
to
during
the
next
eight
year
cycle,
the
city
of
palm
springs
will
be
responsible
for
accommodating
the
development
of
approximately
2500
new
housing
units
over
an
eight
year
cycle.
D
D
As
part
of
our
general
plan
effort
to
update
the
housing
element,
we
are
in
the
process
of
identifying
sites
in
looking
at
this
map.
This
is
one
of
the
maps
that
we
will
be
forwarding
on
to
our
general
plan
steering
committee
committee
and
then,
ultimately,
you
as
the
planning
commission
in
terms
of
reviewing
the
changes
to
the
housing
element.
D
There
is
also
an
area
within
the
section
14
over
x-ray
section
14
specific
plan
on
east
talkwitz
canyon,
where
we
have
a
portion
of
the
resort
overlay,
and
our
specific
plan
addresses
the
uses
in
that
area
in
terms
of
trying
to
get
a
little
bit
more
finely
detailed
on
this.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
look
at
the
north
palm
canyon
corridor
in
terms
of
where
this
may
be
appropriate
and
why
a
conditional
use
permit
is
not
really
necessary
within
this
particular
area.
D
D
This
is
a
portion
of
the
area
that
we're
looking
at
where
there
are
a
number
of
vacant
parcels
that
could
lend
themselves
to
housing
and
just
to
point
out
the
yellow
or
orangish
parcels
that
you
see
there
on
the
map.
Those
are
areas
where
housing
is
already
in
existence,
so
we
have
the
new
icon
development
on
palm
canyon.
We
have
tangerine
court,
which
is
a
number
of
condominiums
there
on
the
south
portion
of
the
map,
and
then
we
have
the
condominiums
at
tramway
road
on
the
north
portion
of
the
map.
D
There
are
already
commercial
uses
within
this
corridor,
and
so
we
probably
already
have
enough
commercial
uses
within
the
corridor,
and
so
this
is
one
of
the
areas
where
we
would
see
benefits
to
relaxing
the
discretionary
review
requirement
of
a
conditional
use
permit
to
encourage
the
development
of
housing
in
this
area.
So
again,
going
back
to
the
two
questions
that
you
had
from
the
last
planning
commission
meeting:
the
appropriateness
of
changing
the
approval
process
for
restaurants.
D
In
the
p
professional
zone
and
then
the
elimination
of
the
conditional
use
permit
requirement
to
encourage
the
development
of
housing
in
the
resort
corridor
overlay.
So
that
concludes
my
presentation.
This
is
a
public
hearing.
We
do
have
one
member
of
the
public
who
would
like
to
speak
on
this,
and
so,
madam
chair,
I
will
go
ahead
and
turn
this
back
to
you.
A
E
F
Okay,
just
cut
me
off
because
I
tend
to
go
on
and
on.
Basically,
I
think
that
how
I
got
really
involved
in
this
is,
I,
as
you
know,
have
capture
plaza
and
I
just
purchased
a
building
at
2825,
east
aquits,
really
close
to
the
city
hall
and
what
I've
learned.
F
Basically
from
other
cities,
I
lived
in
waikiki
for
10
years,
which
is
very
much
a
resort
town,
and
then
I
also
lived
for
20
years
in
portland
oregon,
there's
a
real
sense
of
a
lack
of
neighborhoods
in
palm
springs,
and
I
don't
necessarily
mean
for
housing.
This
is
where
people
that
live
here
full-time
or
spend
a
lot
of
time
here.
They
really
don't
want
to
go
to
starbucks
downtown
and
sit
with
all
the
tourists
on
the
corner
of
chocolates
and
have
to
deal
with
parking.
F
F
I
mean
we
certainly
had
a
lot
of
challenges,
but
what
you
created
as
a
place
for
not
only
the
office
tenants
to
go
to,
but
people
that
don't
want
to
go
downtown,
I'm
one
of
those
people.
So
I
like
to
go
to
coffee,
but
I
would
go
to
the
coffee
on
camino
real
before
I
would
go
to
the
starbucks
downtown
and
also
there's
a
real
resistance
from
people
that
live
there,
full
time
that
want
that
community
walk
to
feel
that
you
get
in
downtown.
F
So
in
portland
oregon,
I
think
they're.
The
perfect
example
of
way
out
of
control.
They
have
you
know,
they're
much
easier
with
having
coffee
shops
and
apartment
buildings
and
high-rises
and
condominiums,
but
portland's
always
had
that
eclectic
environment.
F
I
think
the
building
at
2825
that
you're,
probably
familiar
with
on
the
east
aqua's
corridor
with
a
blue
roof
and
a
big
fountain
in
front,
is
one
of
those
perfect
spots
recently
with
vibe
you've
added
a
whole
lot
of
new
housing.
Also,
these
chocolates
corridor
houses
most
of
the
apartment
buildings
in
palm
springs
down
the
east
corner,
most
of
the
two
three-story
buildings
and
apartment
people
that
live
here
full-time
or
are
living
there
in
palm
springs.
F
If
you
want
a
cup
of
coffee,
where
do
you
go
the
airport
you
can't
get
into
unless
you're
checking
someone
in
for
a
flight
people
go
to
the
airport.
Constantly
people
are
late.
People
are
early,
there's
no
place
for
them
to
sit
no
place
for
them
to
hang
out
without
paying
parking
fees
and
to
add
a
coffee
shop.
Just
like
coffee
to
that
building
at
2825.
F
It
creates
a
sense
of
neighborhood
where
the
people
that
vibe
a
large
population
of
apartment
dwellers
across
the
street
and
go
to
and
sit
outside
that
particular
property.
I
bought
has
an
amazing
outdoor
space
around
the
big
fountain,
I'm
tearing
out
a
bunch
of
shrubs
now
and
doing
landscaping,
and
you
know
just
making
that
patio
space
and
I
can
tell
you
confidentially
because
there
probably
won't
be
confidential
very
long.
Townie
bagels
is
very
interested
in
taking
over
that
site
they're
currently
on
sunnydoom.
F
A
F
F
What
I'm,
basically,
I'm
not
sure,
I'm
asking
anything,
I'm
praising
you
for
the
ability
to
have
another
outlet
other
than
the
conditional
use
permit.
As
you
know,
I
did
a
conditional
use
permit
at
captor
plaza
and
we
did
what
I
thought
was
the
first
blanket
conditional
use
permit
where
small
businesses
could
come
in
doctors
whatever
and
get
this.
I
was
applying
for
the
ganesha
use
permit
at
2825
for
the
coffee
shop
to
be
there
and
what
and
then
I
was
told
that
the
council
was
considering
this
land
use
option.
F
We
can
make
more
community,
so
I'm
just
favoring
the
fan,
use,
change
and
would
really
hope
that
office
buildings
like
the
one
I
have
and
others
that
my
clients
have
you
know-
could
have
that
opportunity
to
to
put
in
a
coffee
shop
or
some
tenant
services
or
neighborhood
services,
not
full
restaurants.
That
would
really
help.
I
think,
the
locals
living
here
and
that's
about
it.
F
E
Thank
you
volunteer.
I
had
a
question
and
a
comment
for
the
overlay
for
the
hotel
overlays
down
in
the
corridor
palm
canyon
corridor.
When
it
when
a
multi-family
housing
project
is
proposed,
they
will
still
have
to
follow
the
zoning
of
r2
or
the
disowning
that
exists.
There
was
the
general
plan.
That's
that's
the
question
for
our
director,
but
the
fact
that
when
housing
comes
in,
it
still
needs
to
follow
the
zoning
requirements
that
are
for
that
area
and
that's
to
clarify
the
fact
that
it
won't
be
higher
density.
E
It
would
be
the
density
that
is
allowed
by
the
zoning
code
and,
second,
is
to
the
restaurant,
removing
the
conditional
use
permit.
E
One
of
the
reasons
that
I
am
in
favor
of
that
is
because
the
current
business
complexes
are
over
parked
and
there's
quite
a
bit
of
asphalt
areas,
so
they're
not
tight
quarters
in
which
public
access
will
be
difficult.
So
that
will
be
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
will
also
support
allowing
for
businesses
to
flourish
in
office
complexes
which
are
in
need
of
more
flexib
flexibility.
E
Was
a
comment
I
would
like
to
hear
what
others
have
to
say,
but
yes,
I
am
leaning
towards
the
motion.
D
D
B
B
D
B
Okay,
so
the
for
the
benefit
of
my
commissioners.
The
reason
I
was
asking
that
is,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
if
we
take
this
action
with
the
resort
overlay,
that
we
don't
click
off
a
box
and
say
well,
we've
had
we've
allowed
enough
development
to
meet
the
housing
goals
and
never
actually
focus
on
how
we're
going
to
do
housing.
B
That's
why
I
was
asking
that
question,
so
I
will
be
probably
okay
with
that
part
of
the
of
the
proposal
and
especially
if
we're
going
to
be
intentional
and
look
for
infill
development
opportunities
like
shopping
centers
that
are
really
designed
and
ready
for
this
kind
of
the
housing
needs
that
we
have
in
our
community.
B
B
To
me,
it
doesn't
seem
like
it's
too
high
of
a
bar
to
ask
a
restaurant
to
go
through
a
conditional
use
permit,
because
there
are
lots
of
things
that
go
with
restaurants
that
are
not
compatible
with
professional
or
nearby
residential
areas,
and
they
include
the
food
waste
and
garbage
grease
traps.
Smoke.
B
Cars,
music,
alcohol
and
I
want
to
see
places
like
capture
plaza
thrive.
I
want
to
see
professional
places
thrive,
but
I
I
don't
think
that
this
is
the
place
to
say
we
can
just
not
worry
about
the
impacts
of
restaurants,
it's
okay
to
have
a
public
hearing
and
make
sure
that
the
particular
place
that
someone's
going
to
actually
open
a
restaurant
is
at
a
full
review
and
we've
identified
and
mitigated
the
community
needs.
B
So
I'm
not
really
convinced
and-
and
I
respect
flynn
a
lot,
but
I'm
not
really
convinced
by
the
argument
that
hey
a
restaurant,
that's
going
to
be
in
a
professional
office
area
is
really
only
going
to
be
open
from
8
till
5..
I
think
if
I'm
a
restaurant
operator,
I'm
going
to
want
to
make
as
much
money
as
possible
and
do
do
my
best
job
as
possible.
I
think
the
cep
process
makes
sense
for
restaurants
in
the
p-zone
totally
fine
with
the
banks
and
the
gyms.
C
Yes,
I'm
going
to
echo
commissioner
williams
comments
actually,
so
thank
you.
I
too
am
okay.
With
allowing
residential
in
the
resort
overlay
areas,
I
think
it's
appropriate.
The
uses
are
roughly
similar
people
sleep
there.
I.
C
But
I
agree
that
a
restaurant
I
mean
not
every
restaurant
owner
or
or
operator
is
as
diligent
as
mr
timberlake
who's
done.
Great
work
in
our
city
and
we've
we're
a
better
city
for
having
an
active
participant
here,
but
they're
not
all
like
him,
and
and
that's
not
why
zoning
codes
and
so
forth
are
written
they're
written
for
sort
of
the
lowest
common
denominator.
If
you
want
to
call
it
that-
and
I
do
think
we
need
some
oversight
on
restaurant
uses,
I
mean
I
could
and
I'm
not
talking
just
about
adjacent
to
r1.
C
You
know
multi-family
residential
would
be
impacted
as
well,
but
if
you
could
imagine
buying
or
renting
a
a
habit,
you
know
where
you
live
and,
and
you
look
out,
you
see
an
office
use
and
you
think,
oh,
this
is
going
to
be
quiet
at
night
or
this
is
going
to
be
quiet.
C
You
know
relatively
quiet
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
there
is
an
active
restaurant
right
outside
your
back
window
that
that's
not
fair
to
the
people
that
have
made
their
homes
there,
and
I
would
want
to
give
those
people
a
chance
to
voice
their
concerns.
In
a
public
in
public
testimony,
so
I
I
wouldn't,
unless
there's
other
some
compelling
reason
to
approve
it.
C
C
You
know
moving
in
to
or
trying
to
move
into
an
office
building.
D
It's
both
the
issues
of
cost
and
timing,
so
with
a
conditional
use
permit
the
cost
of
a
conditional
use
permit
with
the
notification
fees
is
approximately
eighty
five
hundred
dollars
and
then
there's
the
time
frame
to
do
it.
It
would
take
generally
about
60
to
90
days
to
process
the
conditional
use
permit
to
meet
the
notification
requirements,
etc
in
terms
of
a
land
use.
Permit.
The
cost
of
a
land
use
permit
is
approximately
fifteen
hundred
dollars
it's
processed
administratively
by
staff.
D
Similarly,
to
a
conditional
use
permit
a
land
use,
permit,
has
conditions
of
approval,
so
we're
able
to
restrict
the
hours
of
operation,
deal
with
site
plan
issues,
parking
issues
etc
through
the
conditions
of
approval
of
a
land
use
permit
land
use
permits.
We
can
generally
turn
around
in
about
two
to
three
weeks.
A
A
I
do
think
that
restaurants
are
one
of
they're,
not
a
it's.
A
tight
business
and
lots
of
restaurants
go
under
those
costs
up
front
huge
costs.
I
I
do
think
staff.
A
We
don't
have
a
process
in
most
zones
where
we
even
require
an
lup
for
a
restaurant.
We
have
a
couple
of
zones
where
we
do,
including
the
downtown,
and
this
would
require
an
lup.
I
think
it's
sufficient
and
I
have
no
problem
with
the
rest
of
the
changes.
So
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
and
see
where
we
go
with
it.
Is
there
a
second
a
second?
A
Is
there
any
comment
before
we
call
the
role?
Commissioner.
B
D
C
Well,
sort
of
a
question:
could
you
build
restrictions
into
the
code
like
size
of
a
restaurant
in
a
p-zone
or
hours
of
operation
in
a
piece
zone,
so
it's
built
in
distance
away
from
residential?
Can
we
build
those
in
to
a
change
to
the
p-zone
vis-a-vis,
the
c-u-p-l-u-p
issue.
F
I
know
the
same
question
that
commissioner
herzbein
asked.
I
was
going
to
ask
about
the
size,
see
if
we
can
put
a.
A
Okay,
could
we
call
the
role
on
this.
E
D
F
F
A
The
measure
passes
four
to
two
moving
right
along
the
we
have
no
unfinished
business.
We
have
no
new
business
item,
five
is
a
discussion
item
and
it's
the
completion
of
our
discussion
on
the
changes
to
the
architectural
review
process
and
it
the
what's
before
us.
Our
changes
suggested
changes
to
any
of
the
specific
plan
districts.
A
Before
we
start
listing
the
specific
plan
districts,
we
have
the
college
district.
The
downtown
district
help
me
with
the
restaurant.
I
do
believe
we
have
a
indian,
a
district
in
the
indian
canyons.
D
We
do
sorry
we
do.
That
was
one
that
I
didn't
put
on
the
list.
There
is
a
need
to
update
that
document.
As
we've
discussed
in
the
past
in
terms
of
its
requirements,
it
doesn't
reference
a
specific
process
other
than
referring
back
to
the
zoning
code,
so
I
don't
believe
it
would
necessarily
need
to
be
amended
for
design
review
process.
A
And
the
downtown,
I
think
we
had
a
little
bit
of
discussion
about
the
downtown
brief
in
our
previous
discussion
about
having
either
separate
meetings
with
planning
an
aac
or
a
joint
meeting.
Preliminary
meeting.
Just
for
discussion
and
study.
D
Yes,
I
did
based
on
your
comments.
What
we
would
look
to
do
is,
as
a
separate
process
amend
the
downtown
specific
plan
to
change
the
approval
process
for
development
within
that
specific
plan.
Based
on
the
comments
that
you've
outlined
in
terms
of
a
joint
pre-application
meeting
with
planning,
commission
and
aac
and
then
following
the
remainder
of
the
revised
process,.
A
D
A
A
D
D
A
A
And
those
would
be
landy's
changes.
Okay,
so
I
think
commissioner
hershbein
are
you
playing
with
your
pen
or
do
you
wish
to
speak
that
wasn't
a
request
to
speak?
Okay,
commissioner:
song.
E
D
Based
on
your
discussion,
we
would
initiate
the
process
with
staff
and
then
go
to
a
joint
pre-application
meeting
of
the
planning
commission
and
the
architectural
advisory
committee.
They
would
then
submit
their
formal
application.
It
would
go
to
planning
commission,
then
city,
council
and
then
aac
would
finalize
the
architectural
review.
E
D
D
A
And
then
we
also
said
just
palace:
they
would
change,
I
guess
the
other
all
the
others,
the
extent
they
have
review
plans
in
them
would
match
what
we're
doing
with
with
the
rest
of
the
plan,
so
desert
palisades
would
follow
what
we're
doing
with
hillsides.
B
D
D
The
one
benefit
of
changing
it
is
that
you
have
a
consistent
process
through
you
know
all
areas
of
the
city,
but
again
it's
it's
up
to
you
all
as
the
planning
commission
and
ultimately
city
council,
in
terms
of
whether
or
not
you
decide
to
change
the
process
for
each
of
the
specific
plans.
B
Madam
chair,
can
I
follow
up
with
flynn,
please
I
I
totally
get
that
we
would
want
a
consistent
process.
My
question
then
flynn
is,
if
I'm
somebody
that
owns
land
in
that
specific
plan
area,
and
now
the
process
has
been
changed.
Do
I
have?
Is
there
any
danger
of
a
kind
of
unlawful
taking
of
rights
or
anything
like
that
that
we
accidentally
would
do.
D
C
A
Thank
you,
I
think
flynn.
You
have
the
direction
you
need.
A
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
want
to
bring
up
two
things
and
see
if
there's
any
support
or
interest
on
the
commission.
For
this
we
we
talked
quite
a
bit
about
reducing
barriers
to
restaurants,
opening
in
the
city
and
one
of
the
things
that
I've
known
from
living
here
is
that
there's
a
parking
mitigation
fee
in
downtown
that
is
extremely
high
and
flynn.
Do
you
know
what
the
parking
mitigation
fee
is
for
or
if
you
wanted
to
open
a
restaurant
in
palm
springs
the
cost
per
spot.
D
Yes,
if
you
are
changing
the
use
of
a
building
from
one
that
requires
less
parking
to
a
restaurant,
which
typically
requires
more
for
an
existing
building,
that
fee
is
approximately
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
per
parking
space.
We
also
offer
that
same
program
in
the
central
business
district
area
for
new
construction
for
new
construction.
I
believe
that
fee
is
about
fourteen
thousand
dollars
per
parking
space.
B
They
might
get
hit
with
a
two
or
three
hundred
thousand
dollar
parking
mitigation
fee,
which
is
far
more
than
an
eight
thousand
dollar
conditional
use
permit.
And
if
we
want
to
reduce
barriers,
the
city
now
owns
which
it
didn't
own
10
years
ago,
1200
spaces
of
parking
in
in
the
downtown
district.
B
So
I
would
just
like
to
throw
that
out
that
we
should
ask
the
council-
I
guess,
if,
if
they
want
to
get
rid
of
that
parking
mitigation
fee,
I
don't
believe
used
to
actually
build
parking
in
any
way.
I
don't
know
what
what
gets
done
with
it,
but
that
would
eliminate
barriers
and
then
I'm
just
going
to
keep
bringing
it
up.
I'd
love
to
see
us
have
a
housing
opportunity
subcommittee,
get
get
together
and
really
identify
where
the
next
2500
dwelling
units
would
be
best
located
for
the
city
of
palm
springs.
B
C
A
Thank
you
on
that.
We
are
going
through
the
you
have
a
chance
to
look
at
that.
We're
going
through
the
general
plan
update
that
the
housing
element
update
and
a
piece
of
that
update
is
always
identifying
sites
and
if
there
was
a
subcommittee
that
wanted
to
work
it
work
on
that
as
we
go
through
that
element.
Looking
at
the
recommendations
of
the
consultant
and
the
general
plan
steering
committee,
I
think
that
would
be
appropriate.
A
We
may
be
a
little
ways
off
from
that,
but
there's
some
opportunities,
and
there
were
also
some
questions
at
our
last
meeting
to
staff,
about
whether
small
incremental
smaller
sites
can
add
to
that
mix.
I
think
commissioner
ervin
mentioned
allowing
two
plexes
or
four
plexes
on
some
of
the
vacant:
lots
in
desert
highland
there.
There
are
proposals
like
that
in
the
legislature,
but
they're
also
proposals
that
haven't
really
been
thought
through
for
various
areas
of
the
city,
but
but
that
is
going
to
be
coming
before
us.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair
yeah.
It
was
commissioner
ervin's
comments
that
made
me
realize
I've
got
ideas
of
where
housing
could
be,
but
he's
got
really
good
ideas
of
where
density
could
exist
and
that's
where
I've
been
thinking
of
us
being
intentional
and
part
of
the
process.
What
I'm
hearing
from
you
is,
we
will
be
able
to
be
part
of
the
process.
A
We
may-
and
I
think
what
maybe
we
can
do
is
I
can
talk
that,
through
with
david
and
flynn
before
our
next
meeting
and
just
figure
out
when
that's
going
to
come
to
us
and
what
role
the
commission
can
take,
could.
A
Back
to
you,
I
mean
right
now
the
city's
hired
consultants,
who
are
doing
some
piece
of
that,
but
some
areas,
some
major
areas
are
being
looked
at.
One
of
the
one
of
the
areas
is
where
the
college
of
the
desert
was
originally
going
to
go
to,
which
is
why
the
the
area
of
the
college
park
and
how
that
whole
area
gets
zoned
for
housing
and
issues
in
and
ideas
like
commissioner
ervin's
last
time.
In
fact,
there
were
some
national
articles
written
that
kind
of
matched
what
commissioner
irvin
was
thinking
about.
A
But
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
talk
that,
through
or
possibly
we
can
make
that
an
agenda
item
for
our
next
meeting.
So
we
can
see
what
the
possibilities
are
of
working
with.
What's
currently
going
on
with
the
housing
element,
because
we
do
have
statutory
does,
I
think
we
have
deadlines
on
the
housing
element.
So
if
we're
going
to
do
this,
we
need
to
work
in
conjunction
with
that.
C
Recall
last
time
that
you
had
brought
up
the
idea
that
we'd
get
a
an
update
on
projects
in
the
city,
would
that
be
at
each
planning?
Commission
meeting
I'd
like
to
know.
I
think
the
public
would
like
to
know
what's
going
on
with
all
these
projects,
instead
of
me
having
to
ask
about
specific
ones
every
time.
C
D
C
C
A
To
the
director
joe's
has
mayor
hostage
asked
for
the
same
information.
E
Yes,
commissioner,
lewin,
you
speak
to
my
heart
when
you
talk
about
flexibility
and
creative
usage
of
parking
areas
for
additional
housing.
E
The
way
I
would
approach
this
is
that,
in
a
more
sort
of
practical
way,
it's
to
take
a
survey
of
projects
like
shopping,
centers
or
even
dance
housing
in
which
the
projects
are
designed
with
over
part
spaces
and
utilize.
E
And
the
reason
for
that
is
because,
in
the
in
the
zoning
code
it
requires
a
minimum
number
of
parking
spaces,
but
many
designers
or
engineers
they
pride
in
creating
more
spaces
than
what
is
required.
E
E
Program
and
use
the
spaces
in
a
very
efficient
way,
so
the
idea
is
that
if
we
can
see
how
the
projects
that
have
been
in
full
use,
how
have
the
parking
spaces
been
used
and
what
areas
are
really
not
used
by
parking
that
will
create
the
vacant
spaces
to
create
housing.
B
I
was
just
going
to
thank
maria
commissioner
song
for
her
comments
and
I
would
love
to.
I
think
it
takes
two
people
to
put
an
item
on
the
agenda
right.
So
do
you
need
a
formal
kind
of
motion?
I
I
would
love
to
see
this
agenda
is
for
discussion
of
how
to
find
housing
opportunities
in
the
city
of
palm
springs.
F
A
A
Thank
you.
It
is
7.05
and
I
would
like
to
adjourn
our
this
planning
commission
until
5
00
pm
on
wednesday
march
10
2021.