►
From YouTube: Planning Commission | September 11, 2019
Description
No description was provided for this meeting.
If this is YOUR meeting, an easy way to fix this is to add a description to your video, wherever mtngs.io found it (probably YouTube).
A
B
F
G
B
We've
already
accepted
the
agenda,
so
I
guess.
The
next
thing
on
the
item
is
public
comment.
This
time
is
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
Planning
Commission
and
consent
calendar,
non
public
hearing
items
and
items
of
general
interests
within
the
subject
matter
of
the
jurisdiction
of
the
Planning
Commission.
If
you
wish
to
speak,
please
come
forward
at
this
time
for
non-public
items.
Are
there
members
in
the
audience
that
want
to
speak?
You
can.
G
G
D
H
Okay,
is
it
on
now
yeah
all
right,
I'm
trying
to
stand
at
three
minutes
here
good
afternoon
my
name
is
Aaron
Nelson
I'm,
the
president
and
chief
operating
officer
of
Asia
SF
I've,
been
with
the
company
19
of
the
last
21
years.
Asia
s,
efforts,
arrest,
I've.
My
name
is
Aaron
Nelson
I'm,
the
president
and
chief
operating
officer
of
Asia
SF
restaurant
is
M.
Francisco
I've
been
with
the
company
19
of
the
last
21
years.
This
thing
is
not
very
loud,
is
it
aegis?
H
F
is
a
restaurant
and
a
cabaret
in
San
Francisco
and
it's
become
a
celebrated
and
iconic
institution
in
its
21
years
in
business
as
early
leaders
in
the
employment
and
of
transgender
persons,
we
are
proud
to
be
joining
Palm
Springs
with
this
second
location
I'm
here
today
to
support
extension
of
the
hours
to
the
use
permit
from
6:00
p.m.
to
10:00
p.m.
I
have
read
the
staff
reporting.
We
agree
to
all
the
conditions,
with
the
exception
that
we
would
ask
that
there
not
be
a
distinction
between
the
live
music
and
recorded
music.
H
We
will
still
agree
to
all
the
same
limits
on
bass,
frequency
and
Hertz.
As
recorded
music,
our
primary
goal
with
the
space
is
to
not
have
an
ongoing
pool
party
but
to
cater
primarily
to
weddings
on
weekends,
and
it
is
largely
likely
that
these
would
want
a
small
band
or
violins
or
some
kind
of
music
and
those
events
typically
don't
start
until
4:00
p.m.
and
when
we
understand
those
there's
a
hard
ten
o'clock
end
time.
H
H
It's
obvious
to
me
when
we
took
over
the
space
of
looking
at
what
their
current
setup
was,
that
they
couldn't
possibly
have
been
complying
with
what
their
use
requirements
were,
and
that's
probably,
maybe
why
they
closed
in
a
year
and
a
half,
but
I
can't
do
anything
about
the
past
or
explain
other
people's
business
choices.
But
we
are
a
very
different
business
and
will
operate
very
differently.
We've
removed
all
the
previous
equipment,
the
giant
hanging
speakers
and
the
DJ
booth
from
the
outside
area.
H
We
agreed
to
have
the
limiters
frequency
restrictions
required
that
limit
base
and
Nosa
booked
subwoofers
will
be
allowed.
We've
hired
a
sound
consultant,
who
has
also
here
with
me
today,
to
review
and
plan
for
any
new
equipment
and
to
hear
to
use
restrictions,
there's
also
a
six
month
and
I
believe
a
one-year
review
with
my
staff
suggested,
which
we
will
welcome,
because
we're
gonna
stay
within
our
compliance
with
the
approved
use.
H
In
short,
we
will
take
all
necessary
measures
to
operate
as
a
professional
business
in
a
commercial
district
with
the
approved
use
and
minimize
any
potential
adverse
effects
to
neighbors.
We
were
not
required
to
do
so,
but
we
did
asked
any
schools
be
to
forward
our
welcome
letter
to
surrounding
neighbors,
and
we
also
personally
mailed
out
letters
ourselves
on
a
personal
note.
I
am
also
a
homeowner
and
I
have
been
president
of
my
homeowners
association
for
10
years.
So
I
get
it.
There's
a
change
happening
in
the
neighborhood,
their
neighbors.
H
H
But
I
would
ask
the
committee
to
approve
our
application
and
allow
all
types
of
music
with
the
same
limits
on
sound
as
recorded
music
and
to
give
us
the
same
opportunity
as
a
business
to
operate
responsibly
on
our
leased,
location
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
when
our
agenda
item
is
called.
Are.
H
B
I
I
I've
get
a
little
closer
start
about
that.
I
am
the
managing
member
of
partnership
that
owns
the
building
at
1251
Montalvo.
That's
an
industrial
building!
That's
had
quite
a
bit
of
controversy
around
it.
I
missed
the
last
July
24th
meeting,
but
I
did
listen
to
all
the
the
entire
video
and
everything
of
what
what
transpired
with
the
community
I'm
fully
aware
of
what
their
concerns
are
and
fully
prepared
to
deal
at
every
single
point
in
every
single
concern
that
they
have
in
regards
to
this
building.
I
I
thought
I
was
the
meaning
that
just
took
place
earlier
was
a
closed-door
meeting.
That's
why
I
showed
up
at
1:30
my
bad,
but
I
wanted
to
just
state
that
we've
been
working
on
this
project
since
January
of
2018.
We
went
through
all
the
proper
City
channels
to
find
out
to
make
sure
this
building
was
compliant.
I
100
cross
100
percent
across
the
board
on
every
level
setbacks
everything
we
have
invested
a
lot
of
money
and
are
very
concerned
about
some
of
the
changes
you're
doing
Midway
and
are
in
our
process,
I'm,
not
sure
if
anything
was
ruled
upon
over
there
in
regards
to
setbacks
or
changes
and
I'm
more
concerned
about
things
that
are
impacting
people
that
are
in
process
right
now.
Not
new
ones
that
will
fall
under
new
guidelines
is
that
what
the
process
is
going
to
be.
Thank.
B
I
I
B
I
B
C
Hi,
my
name
is
audrey
joseph
I'm
here
to
speak
on
asia.
Sf
I
am
working
with
them
on
their
sound
attenuation.
I
have
before
me
two
emails
that
was
sent
to
you
guys
regarding
our
asked
for
extended
hours
outside
and
they're
concerned
about
the
sound
as
Erin
already
said.
All
of
the
large
speakers
that
were
hung
really
high
have
been
taken
down.
We
intend
to
do
the
proper,
sound
attenuation
outside
using
compressor
limiters
to
meet
the
standards
that
the
city
set
in
our
conditions
and
digitally
adding
equalizers
so
that
we
can
control
the
frequencies.
C
C
C
J
Name
is
Mark
Matthews
and
I'm
here
for
the
pinnacle
homeowners
association
matter,
I
brought
two
things
that
I
was
gonna
hand
out,
but
one
is
a
map
that
shows
where
an
Arroyo
Seco
was
filled
with
dirt.
That
affects
the
watershed,
runoff
and
so
I'll
provide
a
copy
of
that
to
the
staff
and
then
an
aerial
photo
of
the
area
are
concerned.
Can
you
get
that
to
them?
For
when
the
hearing
starts,
our
concern
is
that
a
runoff
was
filled
with
dirt
and
you
know
when
it
rains
we're
going
to
have
a
real,
serious
problem.
K
I
Art
I
work
for
freehold
communities
or
the
developer
of
the
Maryland
project.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
committee
for
their
time.
I'm
here
in
support
of
the
Christopher
Holmes
request
for
architectural
approval.
I
know
there
are
members
of
this
body
who
have
participated
extensively
in
study
sessions
to
come
up
with
a
help
guide
Christopher
in
their
design
of
their
homes.
We,
as
master
developers,
are
very
concerned
with
the
quality
of
those
homes.
I
We
believe
that
the
architecture
they're
putting
forth,
meets
and
exceeds
our
expectations,
and
hopefully
the
expectations
of
this
body
and
I
would
just
strongly
encourage
the
Commission
to
consider
the
architecture
in
relation
to
the
approved
design
guidelines
that
have
been
before
this
body
as
well
as
well
as
the
the
City
Council's.
So
again
we
find
them
fully
compliant
we're
excited
to
have
them
get
going.
It's
been
a
long
time
in
coming
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
homes
coming
out
of
the
ground
and
just
a
quick
aside.
I
M
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Patrick
McCabe
I'm,
with
Christopher
homes.
I
just
want
to
echo
Brad's
comments
on
us
being
very
excited
to
get
out
there
and
get
started
on
this
project.
It
has
been
something
we've
been
working
on
for
a
long
time.
We
started
with
a
set
of
design
guidelines
that
really
set
the
stage
for
design.
M
We
went
through
three
joint
committee
meetings
with
a
few
members
from
this
panel
and
then
also
a
few
members
from
the
architectural
Advisory
Committee.
We
actually
went
through
a
lot
of
challenge,
but
we
were
challenges
we
were
challenged
to
take
our
product
and
instead
of
placing
elements
that
you
see
from
the
architects
out
here,
we
were
challenged
to
actually
show
them
and
utilize
their
function
show
them
and
develop
better
massing,
better
architecture,
better
placement
of
these
features.
So,
instead
of
a
for
a
feature,
they
actually
have
a
useful
function.
M
So
that
being
said,
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
day
it
was
very
productive.
We
love
the
product
that
has
developed
from
this
process.
There
is
quite
a
big
change
from
the
initial
product
to
the
ending
product
and,
as
I
said,
we're
happy
about
and
we're
excited
to
start
out
there.
I
will
be
here
with
architect
and
my
Landscape
Architect
with
any
questions
you
may
have.
Thank
you
thank.
B
I
Good
afternoon
everybody,
my
name
is
Scott
st.
Cyr
and
I
am
a
homeowner
I'm
here
for
the
a
aja
SF
project,
I'm
a
homeowner,
a
homeowner
at
Dakota,
which
is
the
development
that's
directly
across
the
street.
From
there
when
we
first
bought
our
home,
which
we
paid
a
significant
amount
of
money
for
hacienda,
was
still
open.
I'm
not
comparing
the
two,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
the
noise
was
was
pretty
loud.
Also
when
the
Ace
Hotel
has
their
parties
for
Splash
house.
We
still
hear
that
noise
I,
think
it's
great.
I
That
there's
been
some
changes
to
this
I
hope
that
those
things
work
I
will
also
say
that
I
think
music
is
wonderful,
I
want
to
choose
what
music
and
what
and
the
sound
that
is
in
my
home
and
that
the
audibility
of
that
sound,
so
I
would
just
I
have
major
concerns.
I
would
love
to
see
something
in
that
building.
I
think
that
it's
it's
a
horrible
waste
that
it's
sitting
there
empty
I'm
concerned
that
this
company,
who
isn't
from
Palm
Springs,
is
coming
in
to
create
this
I'm
all
for
it,
I'm,
not
sure
I'm.
I
B
Anyone
else
in
the
audience
to
speak
on
a
matter
that
you
want
to
address
the
Commission
with
us:
nothing,
I'm,
gonna,
move
on
to
the
consent
calendar
and
on
the
consent
calendar.
We
have
the
first
item
on
the
consent.
Kit,
the
one
and
only
item
on
the
consent
calendar
is
approval
of
the
minutes
of
July
10th
2019.
To
have
a
motion
to
approve
so
moved.
Mr.
Karen.
G
B
G
N
D
O
In
the
past,
what
we've
done
is
it's
basically
just
designating,
who
is
responsible
for
maintaining
the
sign?
It's
really
a
simple
form,
usually
a
two-page
form
that
we've
done.
We
did
it
with
the
sunnmøre
sign
that
you
see
on
farrell,
so
it
would
be
a
really
simple
form
that
basically
designates
who's
responsible
for
maintaining
that
time.
Okay,
thank.
B
B
The
next
item
we're
going
onto
is
our
public
hearing
public
hearing
item
number
2a,
which
is
l,
t
hoff,
Canyon
View
LLC
for
a
two-year
extension
of
time
for
vesting
track
map
number
three:
six:
nine,
six:
nine
planned
development
district
number:
three:
eight
one
and
major
market
extra
approval
for
an
eighty
lot:
single-family
residential
development
on
an
undeveloped
thirteen
point:
two
five
acre
parcel
located
at
the
southwest
corner
of
East
Palm,
Canyon,
Drive
and
Matthew
Drive.
We
have
a
staff
report.
Please,
yes,.
O
Chair
woods
and
confining
commissioners,
this
item
is
a
request
to
extend
the
entitlements
for
the
Canyon
View
project
which,
as
you
say,
that
is
an
80
lot,
single-family
subdivision
that
consists
of
one
in
two
story:
homes,
as
you
see
here,
on
the
screen,
the
project
but
East
Palm
Canyon
to
the
north,
Matthew
Drive
to
the
south
and
and
Linden
way
to
the
West.
The
applicant
has
been
well
before
I
get
into
that
the
project.
As
you
can
see,
it
does
involve
a
series
of
motor
courts
that
homes
that
surround
motor
courts.
You
can
see
here.
O
This
is
a
cluster
of
eight
homes.
In
one
case
and
as
I
said,
they
are
one
in
two
story:
homes
that
range
from
about
2200
square
feet
to
2,600
square
feet
in
size.
So
this
is
the
first
floor
that
you
have
here
on
the
screen:
two-car
garages,
the
primary
living
area,
a
master
bedroom
on
the
ground
floor.
The
second
floor
contains
additional
bedrooms
and
some
additional
living
space.
So
this
floorplan
kind
of
gives
you
a
closer
view
of
plan.
Three.
O
O
So
those
are
just
three
variations
of
the
plan
and
then,
as
you
see
here
on
the
plan,
this
is
just
some
street
views
conceptual
views
of
the
project
from
different
vantage
points
throughout,
so
the
project
has
run
into
some
issues
in
terms
of
moving
forward.
The
master
drainage
plan
line
41
the
area
for
the
area
required
continues
to
delay
the
project
and
they
have
the
Riverside
County
Flood
Control
Control
District
has
has
gotten
further
along
in
their
process
to
get
that
under
way.
O
That
would
impact
the
projects
on
site
drainage
and
as
well
as
how
the
drainage
from
adjacent
areas
are
conveyed
around
the
site.
So,
as
you
may
recall,
for
this
project
there
was
quite
a
significant
drainage
moat.
If
you
will
that
went
around
the
project.
You
see
here
on
the
south
and
west
side
of
the
site,
so
that
potentially
could
be
eliminated,
but
ultimately
it
would
have
to
be
resolved
as
the
line
41
is
finished
and
finalized.
So
that
has
been
a
delay
for
this
project
and
moving
it
forward.
O
The
item
the
applicant
has
submitted
a
number
of
items
to
the
city
to
move
it
forward.
They
have
included
the
hydrology
study
on
site,
drainage
off-site
and
on-site
street
plans,
rough
grading
plans,
sewer
plan,
the
water
quality
management
plan
and
the
final
map
for
the
subdivision
so
that
they
have
done
a
significant
number
of
items
to
move
the
project
forward
and
also.
Lastly,
they
have
submitted
the
final
development
plan,
which
is
in
process
with
the
planning
department.
O
So
staff
is
recommending
that
the
Commission
approved
the
two-year
extension.
The
applicant
believes
that
they
will
be
able
to
move
the
project
forward
fully
within
this
two-year
time
frame.
So
that's
what
the
recommendation
here
is
today.
We
also
recommend
that
the
Planning
Commission
recommend
approval
to
the
City
Council
for
the
vesting
tentative
tract
map,
as
required
by
the
Municipal
Code.
The
time
extension
must
be
approved
by
the
City
Council
for
that
request.
O
So
that
concludes
my
presentation
that
when
I,
when
an
additional
item,
I
would
note
is
staff
did
provide
some
additional
exhibits
for
this
project,
just
showing
you
what
the
project
plans
were
that
were
approved
by
the
City
Council
back
in
2017.
So
you
have
that
at
the
Dyess
today
and
again
I'm
available.
If
you
have
any
questions,
thank
you
thank.
B
O
F
Can
we
hear
from
the
city
engineer
as
far
as
some
of
these
issues
I
think
they
need
to
be
fleshed
out
a
little
bit
before
we
can
sort
of
opine
on
this
I
think
there's
certain
items
missing
from
the
staff
report.
That
would
help
us
understand
the
process
and
what
what
we're
waiting
for
and
what
we
hope
to
get
out
of
it
from
the
process
from
Riverside
County.
P
Good
afternoon,
so
what
is
happening
with
Riverside
County
flood
control
is
there
is
a
master
plan
of
drainage
and
it's
considered
line
41
and
to
the
south
of
this
project.
There
is
somewhat
of
a
dam
debris
Basin
that
is
part
of
that
project,
and
the
project
is
from
what
we
understand
is
fully
funded
they're
in
the
process
of
their
final
design,
which
is
a
little
bit
of
land
acquisition.
P
Some
final
design
with
some
future
projects,
this
being
one
of
them
and
the
construction
of
line
41
is
going
to
change
the
landscape
of
this
project
a
little
bit.
So
the
proposed
drainage-
I,
don't
want
to
use
word
mote,
but
I'm
going
to
use
the
word
moat
around
this
project
would
virtually
become
unnecessary
because
of
the
improvements
that
Riverside
County
flood
control
is
doing.
So
in
doing
that,
though,
it
will
give
this
developer
the
opportunity
to
actually
do
something
with
that
area.
P
What
they're
going
to
propose
with
that
area
is
not
fully
known
yet
because
the
plans
for
Riverside
County
flood
control
are
at
about
a
90%
in
their
design
stage.
They
indicated
to
us
Riverside,
County,
flood
control
indicated
to
us.
Hopefully,
by
the
end
of
the
year,
they'll
be
done
to
go
out
to
public
bid
and
begin
their
final
bidding
project
process
first
of
the
year.
P
So
with
that,
the
developer
would
have
the
opportunity
to
do
something
with
that
moat
area
around
there,
we're
on
their
project
may
be
a
pedestrian.
Paseo
may
be
a
some
more
robust
landscaping
rather
than
this
drainage
area
around
the
thing.
So
that's
kind
of
what's
been
causing
a
little
bit
of
the
delay.
P
David's
got
a
nice
fancy
remote
over
there
so
right
there,
where
he's
the
circles
going
around.
This
is
the
drainage
area,
that's
to
the
south
of
it
along
Matthew
Drive
and
as
it
continues
up
Linden
Way
and
it
goes
up
Linden
Way,
and
then
it
connects
to
a
master
storm
drain
line
which
is
line
41,
which
is
going
to
run
a
long,
yeast
palm
canyon
back
to
Matthew
Drive.
So,
essentially,
it's
creating
this
giant
drainage
area
around
the
entire
project.
P
P
It
doesn't
really
impact
that
as
much
as
is
more
of
their
design
when
it
comes
to
where
Matthew
drive-in
East
Palm
Canyon
meet
those
bridges.
How
that
culvert
gets
underneath
those
little
bridge
areas
there
working
on
those
final
design
plans
now,
but
that
that
drainage
area
along
East,
Palm
Canyon,
probably
won't
change
much
so.
F
E
E
Experienced
many
projects
in
which
the
site
scrubbing
rating
pad
certification
is
having
is
happening
along
the
approval
process
with
Riverside
flood
control
because
they
take
so
long.
So
do
you
happen
to
know
why
the
applicant
has
not
actually
started
because
time
is
money
right.
So
the
question
is
how
come
the
on
site
or
the
grading
has
not
occur
parallel
to
the
approval
process
of
flood
control,
that.
P
B
Q
You
mr.
chair,
my
name
is
Donald
poofing
and
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
Canyon
View
project.
To
answer
commissioner
song's
question:
we
actually
were
planning
on
moving
forward
with
our
own
internal
plans,
separate
of
the
Riverside
County
Flood
Control
facilities.
A
couple
years
ago,
a
city
staff
approached
us
asking
us
to
see
we
if
we
would
be
open
to
working
with
Riverside
County
Flood
Control
in
joint
facilities
and
at
that
time,
Riverside
County
Flood
Control
had
several
issues.
Number
one
funding
was
an
issue.
Funding
wasn't
yet
in
place.
Q
Concert
conservation,
easements
needed
to
be
obtained
as
well
as
design
had
not
yet
started,
and
so
to
your
point
you
know
we
never
like
to
tie
our
project
to
something
that
is
a
complete
unknown.
So
we
went
ahead
and
proceeded
with
our
own
separate
set
of
and
design
so
on,
September
24th
of
2018.
We
submitted
all
of
our
internal
designs
to
the
city
for
a
plan
check
and
as
a
couple
months
ago,
all
our
plans
were
in
either
third
fourth
or
final
plan
Shack.
So
most
of
the
plans
are
actually
ready
to
be
approved.
Q
So
we
looked
at
it
and
we
felt
that
working
with
flood
control
would
be
ideal
because,
instead
of
having
the
channels
on
the
south
and
east
side
of
the
proper
or
west
side
of
the
project,
we
could
actually
have
additional
landscaped
area,
which
would
be
a
benefit
to
not
only
our
project
but
the
community.
And
so
that
is
the
the
rationale
for
for
why
we're
requesting
the
two-year
extension.
The
other
thing
is,
we
cannot
complete
our.
Q
Our
preference
would
have
been
to
come
to
the
Planning
Commission
today
with
a
full
set
of
plans
and
landscape
drawings
as
to
what
our
intent
is.
But
we
don't
have
fully
approved
plans
from
flight
control.
As
of
our
meeting
last
month
with
city
staff
and
Flood
Control,
we
were
only
60%
through
and
that
City
60%
set
from
flight
control
had
not
yet
been
checked,
so
we
do
not
have
those
plans,
so
we
can't
figure
out
what
land
area
were
actually
gaining
at,
where
we
would
need
to
move
walls
or
any
other
storm
training
facilities.
Q
B
Okay,
thank
you.
You
know
we're
gonna,
take
the
public
comments
and
then
we
you'll
have
two
minutes
for
a
rebuttal,
and
then
we
may
ask
you
questions.
Thank
you.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
on
this
item?
I
see
no
one
here,
you're
more
than
what
the
applicants
more
than
willing
to
come
back
up.
You
have
two
more
minutes
if
you,
but
you
might
want
to
come
up
in
case.
There's
questions
you
didn't
take
your
two
minutes
if
you
like.
Thank
you
good.
Okay.
Are
there
any
questions
of
the
applicant
Cuccia
song
yeah.
E
Q
There
this
this
project
has
a
very
long
history.
There
were
issues
with
obtaining
a
skip
financing,
so
we
were
when
the
project
was
approved.
After
the
project
was
approved,
we
were
looking
to
obtain
skip
financing
in
order
to
fund
some
of
the
facilities,
and
we
had
to
go
back
and
forth
with
city
staff
and
City
Council
several
times
which
took
about
a
good
year
for
us
to
resolve,
and
so
that
was
resolved
earlier
this
year
and
once
that
we
were
working
through
that
in
parallel
with
our
art
plans,
so
yeah.
That
was
what
we
were.
Q
F
Q
Q
Q
Q
E
Q
Not
the
building
plans
yet
so
all
of
our
improvement
plans
were
submitted
in
September
of
last
year
and
all
are
ready
to
be
approved
or
close
to
being
approved
by
the
city's
third-party
plan.
Check
contractor
ers,
see
at
that
point
before
they
were
approved.
City
staff
asked
us
to
revisit
the
Riverside
County
flood
control
line,
41
facilities,
so.
Q
Q
According
to
our
performer
and
funding
strategy,
we
were
supposed
to
be
belts
already,
so
obviously
you
know
the
sooner
the
better
for
us.
It
doesn't
move
us
to
hold
on
to
the
project
for
longer.
I
think
like
to
admit
to
your
comment
earlier.
You
know
time
is
money
and
the
longer
we
hold
this,
the
the
worse
it
is
for
us,
so
the
quicker
we
can
move
the
the
better
for
us.
Okay,.
Q
Q
F
Q
F
F
O
They
would
just
have
to
submit
their
found
and
get
approval
for
their
final
development
plan,
and
would
that
include
construction
documents?
Yes,
well,
it
would
include
probably
70
to
90
percent
construction
documents,
so
the
final
design
of
the
homes
and
the
site
plan
and
landscape
plans,
okay
and
and.
F
O
The
challenge
would
also
be
how
the
final
hydrology
is
approved,
because
if
the
city's
requiring
that
the
hydrology
also
include
the
Swale
around
the
property
that
obviously,
if
they
build
that
per
the
approved
plan,
then
it's
not
going
to
be
what
I
think
everyone
would,
but
Phil
would
be
a
better
design
which
would
be
landscape.
No.
F
B
N
N
F
G
F
We'll
and
if
the
most
of
final
PD
that's
like
way
at
the
end
of
the
process,
it's
closer
to
the
end
of
the
process
you
know,
can
we
make
it
sooner
like
I
don't
mean
tomorrow
sooner
but
I
don't
want
to
wait
to
the
end.
To
look
at
that,
because
I
think
that's
a
pretty
significant
piece
of
what
we
review.
We
review
how
this
project
interfaces
with
the
public.
G
G
E
I
think
this
is
to
add
to
what
Michael
was
saying
is
that
when
we
review
this
project,
one
of
the
major
sacrifices
was
that
there
was
no
doors
on
the
street.
We
wanted
to
be
able
to
have
this
interaction
between
the
Matthew
Drive
and
because
it
was
this
retention
issue
and
stormwater
issue,
and
so,
if
that
issue
goes
away,
they
I
believe
the
site
has
an
opportunity
to
now
be
able
to
connect
to
the
street.
So
without
having
saying
you
better
redesign,
it
I'm,
bringing
back
the
memory
recall
on
on
those
issues.
E
B
Passed
unanimously,
congratulations
and
good
luck
with
your
project
and
working
with
flood
control.
You
know
we
know
it's
not
easy.
Okay.
The
next
item
on
the
public
hearing
agenda
is
an
appeal
of
Marc
Hogan
of
twist
Palm
Springs,
representing
zaleka
via
via
Lola
LP
and
Lehren
acts
of
Iowa,
requesting
the
Planning
Commission
to
remove
conditions
of
Appeal
engineering.
Three
through
condition
engineering
11
for
the
approval
of
a
conditional
use
permit
to
convert
the
existing
17
units
short-term
rental,
to
hotel.
At
the
twist
located
at
1
4
0
West
V
Aloha.
L
L
So
when
we
reviewed
the
project,
we
had
certain
findings
and
we
found
that
the
and,
in
addition
to
the
sidewalk
sorry,
there
were
street
improvements
that
were
imposed
to
be
done
on
Camino
del
corto.
That's
when
we
reviewed
the
project
we
found
that
the
street
improvements
were
necessary
on
West
via
lava
to
accommodate
the
persons
with
disability.
We
also
found
that
on
go
backwards
here.
L
L
Considering
the
this
site
settings
conditions
and
the
context
of
sites,
the
city
staff
finds
that
the
implementation
of
conditions
of
approval
engineer
in
3
through
11
are
necessary
to
serve
the
public
health
safety
and
welfare
staff
recommends
that
the
Planning
Commission
90
applicants
requests
to
remove
conditions
of
approval
engineering
3
through
11
and
the
firm
those
conditions
and
modified
staffs
available
to
answer.
Any
questions
are.
F
F
What
troubles
me
about
this
is
they're,
not
constructing
anything
and
they're
they're
merely
responding
to
a
change
in
the
city
law
to
continue
business
as
they
had
been,
and
now
there's
this
extra
I
think
pretty
substantial
cost
being
imposed.
So
what
would
that
those
guidelines
dictate
when
there's
no
real
construction
going
on
as
part
of
the
underlying
project?
You.
L
J
Mr.
chair
members
of
the
Commission
I
believe
I
can
also
chime
in
on
this.
We
get
back
to
our
issue
of
Nexus
again
and
Nexus
to
impose
these
types
of
conditions.
Our
office
was
consulted
on
this
item
as
well,
and
we
believe
that
the
conditions
are
appropriate
here
that
this.
This
is
not.
You
know
why
in
the
street,
because
the
general
plan
says
we
want
the
street
widened,
it's
not
they're,
not
those
types
of
conditions.
This
is
the
repair
condition.
J
Some
of
these
conditions
are
fixed
with
broken
out
there,
a
DA
access
and
compliance
issues,
pedestrian
access
issues
also,
even
though
they
are
not
constructing
anything
new
physically
out
there.
As
part
of
this
project,
they
are
changing
the
use
it's
going
from
timeshare
to
hotel
and
we
we
as
staff,
discuss
that
as
well.
I
hoped
I,
don't
think
it's
the.
J
J
It
seemed
logical
to
us
that,
with
a
hotel
population
you're
going
to
have
more
in
and
out
activity
than
you
will
necessary
with
a
short-term
rental,
which
could
be
more
like
two
three
weeks
four
weeks,
hotel
occupancy
could
be
less
that
that
was
our
thought
at
the
time,
but,
more
importantly,
getting
back
to
the
actual
conditions.
Again.
This
was
not.
You
know,
widen
the
street
because
it
would
be
nice
and
it's
based
on
the
impact
of
the
project.
These
are
corrective
issues.
These
were
you
know
we
had
88
access,
correct,
broken
items.
J
N
N
Basically,
why
is
it
just
something
the
city
decided,
because
it
would
be
a
nice
thing
to
have
I,
don't
see
where
it
where
its
current
existence,
its
current
current
status,
interrupts
the
flow
of
pedestrian
traffic,
because
it's
not
like
you're
going
from
a
sidewalk
to
a
ninth
I
like
to
a
sidewalk.
There
are
no
sidewalks
when
you
go
north
and
west
of
the
site,
so.
L
One
of
the
reasons
we
would
we
impose
a
sidewalk
was
to
have
access
from
the
parking
lot
to
the
actual
buildings
that
are
the
commercial
units
that
are
in
the
front
of
the
hotel.
Currently,
the
anyone
that
wants
to
access
the
commercial
buildings
has
to
travel
through
the
the
breezeway
of
the
hotel,
so
I'm,
not
certain.
If
the
breezeway
then
exits
out
into
the
public
sidewalk,
anyone
traveling
from
the
parking
lot
has
to
go
through
the
breezeway
out
to
the
front
of
the
building
through
the
the
private
property.
Essentially.
D
D
P
D
B
R
Cocktail
lounge
and
the
zoning
analysis
conducted
for
this
project
determined
that
the
use
is
going
to
be
deficient
by
one
parking
space.
However,
we
had
a
concerned
residents
who
both
the
site's
conditions
and
the
pine
services
depart.
Excuse
me,
the
Planning
Commission
imposed
a
requirement
for
specific
parking
plan
which
the
business
owner
is
still
waiting.
They're
just
waiting
for
the
outcome
of
this
appeal
to
submit
the
final
plan
to
the
department's
planning
services
for
further
review
and
do.
B
We
have-
and
this
might
be,
an
engineering
question
from
that
parking
in
place-
a
path
of
travel
for
a
handicapped
person
to
the
establishment,
because
I
think
that's
the
question
here
and
I
don't
know.
Is
we
have
a
path
of
travel
from
that
parking
space
around
the
corner,
because,
if
the
parking
spaces
not
via
Lowell
up
at
the
side
street
there?
Yes.
P
No,
the
parking
lot
itself,
I
believe
I've,
been
told
by
looking
at
a
site
plan
and
also
looking
at
a
site
plan
that
there
is
access
to
the
back
of
the
hotel
from
the
parking
lot.
But
there
is
no
access
from
the
parking
lot
to
what
would
be
the
Pomplamoose
and
the
coffee
shop
and
the
other
commercial
elements
around
that
are
on
viola
and
Palm
Canyon.
So,
to
answer
your
question,
there
is
not
a
current
path
of
travel
from
the
parking
lot
to
those
commercial
buildings
without
going
through
the
hotel.
Anything.
L
L
L
L
B
If
this
is
a
question
for
our
attorney
mr.
priests,
so
if
we
don't
provide
a
DA
compliant,
we
had
this
change.
We
intensified
the
use,
one
I'm,
not
sure
it's
intense
fiction.
We
changed
the
use
of
both
the
the
short-term
rental
to
hotel
and
also
the
use
of
the
residential.
If
we
don't
accuse
me
at
the
commercial,
if
we
don't
provide
the
path
of
travel,
are
we
not
opening
ourself
to
liability?
B
N
F
N
R
The
applicant
can't
confirm
the
information,
however,
according
to
the
floor
plan
and
the
site
plan
is
submitted
to
the
pine
services
department
suggest
that
the
building
is
accessible
from
West
via
Lola
and
then
also
from
the
rear.
The
rear
facing
the
parking
lot.
But
applicant
is
here
so
they
have
it
to
confirm
that
yeah.
L
L
F
P
Let
me
point
this
out
to
you
here
so
in
this
area
right
here.
This
is
your
driveway
approach
that
takes
the
vehicular
access
to
the
Bay
parking
stall.
What
we're
proposing
is
this
approach
right
here,
which
is
more
than
2%
cross
slope
would
be
removed
and
they
would
put
in
a
new
modified
wedge
curb
along
here,
which
would
then
lift
this
area,
and
then
the
cross
slope
could
then
be
2%
for
5
feet
wide,
and
then
that
would
give
us
our
ad
a
path
of
trouble,
but.
F
P
P
These
driveway
approaches
here
would
have
to
be
modified
to
the
new
driveway
standards,
which
would
then
become
a
DA
compliant
and
that
sidewalk
would
go
up
to
their
next
driveway
approach,
which
is
this
location
here,
and
it
would
terminate
here
when
you
can
see
this
Bay
parking
here
is
not
compliant
either,
but
they're
they're,
not
what
we're
talking
about
today
and
that
would
bring
the
entire
parking
area
via
court.
Oh
and
viola
up
to
standard.
E
Okay,
so
I
think
there's
two
things
that
we
need
to
divide
here:
okay,
yellow
those
handicapped
spaces,
I
believe
that
the
code
does
not
allow
you.
If
you're
a
handicapped
person,
you
can
go
behind
your
own
car,
but
you
cannot
go
behind
somebody
else's
handicapped
car.
So
what
that
means
is
that,
if
there's
two
handicapped
units
in
this
whole
entire
required
by
the
building
code,
then
you
need
to
have
two
handicap
parking
stalls
according
to
whatever
that
math
is.
E
Even
though
right
now,
it's
a
question
to
just
the
staff.
I
believe
the
way
that
I'm
thinking
about
this
is
that
we
should.
We
should
definitely
meet
the
handicap
requirements
of
the
handicap
stalls
to
the
entrance
of
the
building
which
is
via
Lola
and
then
the
rest
I
think
we
should
keep
it
as
it
is
of
the
neighborhood
that
people
do
walk,
able
people
do
walk
on
streets,
I
think
we
should
keep
those
two
things
separately.
E
F
E
F
R
Number
of
required
handicap
spaces
depends
on
the
number
of
parkings
that
are
provided
at
the
site.
As
you
may
recall,
this,
just
the
off-street
parking
is
digo
non-conforming,
however,
based
on
the
unit's,
the
code
will
require
58
parking
spaces,
so
based
on
the
number
58,
there
will
be
three
handicap
parking
spaces
that
were
required.
However,
it's
the
parking
is
ego
non-conforming
right
now,
and
the
site
provides
45
spaces.
F
D
R
The
based
on
the
information
that
and
then
on
this
based
on
the
staffs
understanding,
is
that
there
is
no
signage
or
anything
that
specifically
states
that
the
parking
is
for
the
twist
tenants
only
and
it
is
accessible
to
other
people
by
according
to
the
applicant.
The
parking
lot
is
mostly
used
by
the
twist
visitors
and
attendants,
so
there
is
no
physical
area
or
any
mechanism
that
would
check
and
confirm
who
is
using
the
parking.
Let.
G
B
H
I
I
B
K
Hi
thanks
for
here
hearing
the
appeal
today
and
first
I'll
just
clarify
a
couple
of
the
questions
that
I
heard.
While
we're
there
the
did
switch
to
a
okay,
we
switched
to
a
hotel
from
vacation.
Rentals
is
purely
regulatory
decision.
There
is
no
change
in
the
operation
so
with
the
17
vacation
rentals,
it
is
short-term
and
it's
the
exact
same
population
that
will
have
the
hotel.
K
K
You
know
by
far
so
with
that
I'll,
just
back
up
a
little
bit
in
terms
of
some
of
the
history
there,
with
with
the
parking
I
purchased
the
building
in
2012,
and
it
was
in
most
you
know
and
derelict
States.
The
neighbors
were
tired
of
the
hardscape
and
just
the
ugly
ugliness
of
the
back
of
the
property
that
that
went
into
old,
Las,
Palmas
and
so
Jackie
Autry
and
Jim
Newman,
who
were
two
of
the
neighbors
that
face
the
parking
lot.
K
K
We've
resurfaced
the
parking
lot
on
the
Dell
court,
a
side
and
added
a
DA
units,
and
that
was
in
2013.
In
2014
we
did
the
restaurant
build-out
for
what
was
formerly
dish
at
11:07,
North
Palm
Canyon,
to
get
the
permits
to
do
that.
To
get
the
for
the
restaurant,
the
city
made
us
move
our
ad
a
spots
from
the
del
cuarto
parking
lot
over
to
the
via
Lola
parking
lot.
So
on
the
via
Lola
parking
lot,
those
were
the
eight
most
popular
spots.
K
There
were
eight
spots
there
we
converted
four
of
those
into
388
units
we
hired
JH
Thompson.
They
worked
with
a
permitting
process
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
the
ad
a
spots
were
compliant.
We
demolitions
the
blacktop
put
in
the
the
cement,
all
the
signage
and
all
the
spacing
having
the
the
new
requirement
that
the
the
slope
is
is
wrong.
I'm,
not
sure
if
that
was
a
change
since
2013,
but
we
paid
and
I
have
actually
the
the
invoice
and
there
you
can
see
in
terms
of
JH
Thompson
and
your
packet.
K
We
paid
actually
to
have
the
ad
a
spots
leveled
so
that
there
was
no
slope
for
the
people
parking
and
then
the
slope
only
went
to
the
street.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
been
a
change
since
that,
but
we
were
compliant
and
we
move
those
spots
over
to
the
viola
side
since
that
time.
At
the
viola
side,
the
the
88
spots
are
almost
never
used,
I
mean
rarely.
Will
you
ever
see
a
car
in
there
I've?
No
one
on
site
has
never
seen
a
wheelchair.
K
We
welcome
it,
but
it's
just.
Those
spots
are
not
used
for
people
that
are
not
using
the
ATA
spots
and
also
for
the
ADH
spots.
If
they
do
use
it,
they
have
full
access
into
the
twist
there's
a
breeze
ray
right.
There
goes
from
next
to
103.
They're
also
have
full
access
going
along
via
Lola
and
upon
canyon,
to
the
commercial,
the
commercial
spots
for
people
that
use
the
non
a.da
spots.
K
They
can
either
park
on
the
viola
side,
if
there's
an
open
spot
or
if
they
park
on
Camino
del
cuarto.
In
that
lot,
they
have
two
options
for,
for
going
into
the
twist
to
the
commercial
spaces.
One
is
there's
a
breezeway
that
goes
directly
into
the
end
of
the
property
and
the
photo
that
you
saw
there.
K
That
goes
out
to
the
to
the
pool
and
a
sidewalk
that
runs
around
to
to
to
via
Lola,
so
also
a
back
entrance
going
into
the
restaurant
that
you
can
go
directly
in
from
that
spot,
and
then
people
also
used.
We
have
an
easement
between
our
property
and
the
property
just
to
the
north
of
us
that
the
property
owner
to
the
north
of
us
put
a
chain
across.
K
So
there's
no
traffic,
there's
no
cars
that
can
drive
on
our
easement,
but
people
can
also
walk
directly
to
Palm
Canyon
from
from
that
spot,
and
so
we
see
we
see
that
too.
But
often
it's
either
the
breezeway
or
it's
going
directly
on
the
easement.
So
there
is
no
one
that
we
see
that
the
parks
and
Camino
del
Court
a
lot
and
then
walks
along
communi
del
cuarto
around
viola,
the
backside
of
the
property
to
go
visit,
earnest
coffee
or
any
of
those
other
establishments.
K
K
However,
on
the
backside
on
the
west
side
of
of
the
property,
it's
it's
a
quiet,
beautiful
neighborhood,
with
the
ton
of
vegetation,
and
so
we
tried
to
transition
the
property
from
the
front
which
is
commercial
to
the
back,
which
is
the
neighborhood,
and
so
we've
done
our
best
to
try
to
fit
into
the
neighborhood.
Would
the
vegetation
with
the
quiet
you
know
section
of
the
building,
all
the
commercial
stuff?
You
know
toward
the
front,
and
we
think
we
hit
our
mark,
because
our
neighbors
have
been
very
very
pleased
with
us.
K
You
know
quite
quite
adamantly
in
terms
of
not
wanting
the
hard
scape
and
no
one
would
use
this
sidewalk
the
neighbor
directly,
who
butts
the
the
parking
lot,
his
name's
Michael
Evans,
he
stated
emphatically
look
I,
do
not
want
more
hard
scape
there,
where
I
want
the
landscaping
and
keep
it
soft
and
make
it
mesh
with
the
neighborhood.
Also
Jim
Newman,
who
a
letter
I
think
is
in
your
packet
that
you
have
wrote
a
two-page
letter
in
terms
of
really
his
strong
feelings
that
additional
hard
hard
scape
back.
K
There
is
really
destroying
the
neighborhood
and
and
not
in
in
tune
with
old,
Las
Palmas
and
then.
Finally,
the
the
head
of
the
old
Las
Palmas
Neighborhood,
Association,
Dan
Kaiser,
voted
similar,
stated
similar
sentiments
to
in
emails
and
spoke
up
very
strongly
in
terms
of
keeping
the
landscaping,
and
they
don't
want
to
turn
the
backside
into
commercial
area.
K
So,
just
in
conclusion,
then,
to
when
we
were
at
the
City
Council
meeting,
the
Planning
Commission
at
the
time
had
stated
that
there
is
leeway
in
terms
of
applying
these
these
rules
regarding
sidewalk
and
that
they
can
offer
a
waiver
if
the
sidewalks
in
a
residential
area-
and
this
is
the
perfect
example
of
it
being
in
a
residential
area.
And
you
know,
as
stated
by
the
commissioner,
that
people
walk
in
old,
Las
Palmas
on
the
streets
and
not
on
the
sidewalks
there,
and
because
there
aren't
sidewalks
and
I.
K
B
You
so
we're
gonna
hear
from
the
public
at
this
point
and
then
after
that
you'll
have
two
minutes
for
a
rebuttal
but
hold
on
to
see.
If
there's
anyone
here
from
the
public,
is
there
anyone
here
from
the
public
to
speak?
No,
so
you
can
stare
it
there
and
then
are
there
any
questions
of
the
applicant.
At
this
point,
Commissioner
song.
E
Hi
pretend
for
a
moment
that
you
could
provide
pretend
for
a
moment
that
you're
required
to
have
three
handicap
parking
spaces.
Okay,
on
the
on
your
on
this
on
the
twist
yes,
okay,
pretend
two
of
them
were
in
the
back
parking,
and
one
of
them
was
the
of
a
via
Lola,
okay
and
the
back
parking.
You
just
had
two
restrike
that
a
handicapped
person
is
able
to
have
a
pathway
through
your
back,
eight
and
and
so
on,
to
access
your
unit.
K
The
handicapped
unit
is
103,
which
is
right
next
to
where
the
the
handicaps
three
handicap
spots
are
on
viola,
also
to
go
through
the
back.
There
are
steps
going
down
from
from
the
bat
parking
lot,
so
there
would
be
no
reason
for
a
handicapped
person
to
choose
to
park
on
Camino
del
Corte.
The
only
reason
they
would
choose
there
is,
if
maybe
they're,
going
to
the
to
the
west
and
or
maybe
they're
you
know
want
to
go
for
a
walk
or
stroll
in
the
neighborhood
but
there's
otherwise.
E
I
think
the
issue
is
that
the
location
on
of
the
handicap
parking
spaces
on
via
Lola
is
perfect.
It's
just
that
you
don't
have
a
legal
sidewalk
that
connects,
even
though
you
work
on
all
the
improvements
and
the
slopes,
and
so
and
so
on.
The
sidewalk
in
the
back
is
too
steep.
They
should
really
be
a
sidewalk
in
on
the
toe
side
on
the
front
side
of
the
stalls.
E
K
K
K
In
conclusion,
the
adding
of
more
concrete
to
the
Camino
de
corte
block,
in
addition
to
being
totally
unnecessary
and
costly
to
the
twist,
would
be
substantially
reduced.
The
neighborhood
feeling
that
the
twist
has
tried
to
maintain
along
the
back
of
the
property
in
the
interest
of
a
very
large
expenditure
and
to
blend
into
a
mixed
use
area.
It
seems
to
me
that
these
additional
funds
could
be
more
wisely
spent,
maintaining
and
beautifying
their
facilities
to
the
financial
benefit
to
city
tax
revenue
through
continued
and
enhanced
occupancy.
Please
allow
the
twist
to
leave
the
community
court.
K
A
block
is
presently
we
have
been
more.
We
have
more
important
issues
impacting
our
neighborhood
and
the
city
generally
than
to
make
unreasonable
requests
to
merchants
and
businesses
who
have
fueled
the
present
traumatic
growth
of
our
communities
and
the
city
generally.
He
actually
has
a
lot
more
better
points,
I
think
of
other
paragraphs,
but
yes,.
B
B
D
G
G
For
the
general
public,
the
term
complete
Street
means
that
the
public
right-of-way
is
available
to
all
forms
of
transportation,
not
just
vehicles,
but
also
pedestrians,
bicycles,
etc,
and
so,
when
designing
streets,
we
should
take
all
of
those
forms
of
transportation
into
mind.
One
of
the
things
that
the
city
has
done
recently,
with
the
adoption
of
the
section
14
plan,
we
require
Complete
Streets
in
section
14.
G
B
F
All
of
this
is
being
triggered
by
a
law
passed
by
council
that
a
building
can't
house
short-term
rentals
anymore,
a
multi-tenant
building,
can't
house
short-term
rentals
anymore
and
excuse
me,
sorry
and
and
and
that
has
nothing
to
do
with
any
action
that
applicant
took
so
he's
he's
doing
everything
to
comply
with
that
law
by
changing
it
to
a
hotel
use.
It
doesn't
change
the
function
of
the
building
at
all
and
I.
F
Just
think.
It's
unfair
I
think
it's
not
a
you
know
he's
not
a
major
corporation
he's.
Not
it
is
not
one
house,
but
it's
not
a
he's.
I,
don't
think
the
guy.
You
know
it's
not
a
person
with
deep,
deep
pockets
and
I
I,
just
think
it's
it's
overreach
on
the
part
of
the
city
to
require
that
Commissioner.
D
J
Changes
of
these
this
nature
generally,
not
it's
something
that
would
require
as
a
condition
of
project
approval.
The
applicant
wants
to
make
this
change
to
the
project,
and
so
staff
is
imposed
or
has
suggested
imposing
these
conditions.
And
again
you
know
the
question
of
the
Commission
has
to
decide
here.
Is
you
know
the
scope
of
those
requirements?
Are
they
reasonable
relative
to
the
application,
etc?
So,
that's
before
the
Commission
thank.
B
J
N
Totally
agreed
with
mr.
Hirsch
but
I
couldn't
have
said
it
any
better,
I
think
and
I,
don't
think
it
meets
the
Nexus
test.
Jim
I,
really
don't
I
think
this
this
applicant
had
to
comply
with
the
change
in
the
law.
He
did
nothing
to
change
the
facility
whatsoever
other
than
the
use
and
I
think
well.
It
became
no
longer
became
the
17
units
had
to
become
daily
rentals
as
opposed
to
long-term
rentals,
short-term
rentals,
so
I,
I
I
think
it's
an
overreach
and
I
would
vote
against
the
recommendation
of
the
staff.
Mr.
D
Understand
what
you're,
both
saying
and
I
think
that
that
is
unfortunate.
Ad
a
lot
has
changed
changes
quite
a
bit
and
we're
always
trying
to
accommodate
people
in
new
ways
and
I
think
making
sure
that
we're
compliant
with
8
the
a
DA
is
important.
The
other
thing
is
that
we
have
more
development
in
that
area
and
that
there
are
people
who
are
going
to
use
that
back
area.
D
I
know
that,
when
I
park
at
earnest,
if
I
have
to
park
in
the
back,
I
wouldn't
have
thought
to
walk
through,
I
would
have
gone
around
I
I
could
I'm
willing
to
concede
to
the
sidewalk,
but
I
think
the
ATA
requirements
need
to
be
met
and,
unfortunately,
the
laws,
change
and
people
have
to
comply
with
them
all
the
time.
That's
just
the
way
it
is,
and.
B
If
I
could
just
chime
in
a
moment
when
you
go,
when
you
have
a
vacation
or
a
short
term
vacation
rental,
you
do
not
have
to
apply.
My
understanding
is
with
a
DA
requirements,
but
when
you
have
a
hotel,
you
do
have
to
comply
with
a
DA
requirements,
so
there's
a
difference
and
they
do
and
although
they
could
have,
they
were
operating
kind
of
on
the
border
of
legality.
B
They
decided
to
go
towards
a
hotel
which
does
require
a
DA
requirements,
and
it
sounds
like
if
I'm
hearing
everything
right,
they
even
had
to
do
some
of
the
rooms
to
be
a
DA
compliant
or
they
weren't
compliant
before
I.
Think
the
question
it
seems
like
the
question
that's
before
us
is
the
ABA
has
changed
and
that's
triggering
a
bit
of
a
change.
Is
that
true
from
that's
triggering
the
change
or
what's
triggering
the
change.
P
E
But
at
the
end
of
the
day,
this
is
a
also
an
apartment,
housing
project,
apartment
housing
projects
do
require
handicap,
accessibility,
parking
spaces,
so
I
handicap
rules
have
not
changed
for
handicap
spaces.
The
requirement
of
the
2%
cross
slope
and
5%
Donna
sidewalk
has
remained
for
its
1971
when
the
first
88
loss
came
through
so
I
think.
What
what
we're
saying
here
is
that
we're
in
complete
agreement,
we
love
what
you
have
done
on
this
project.
E
I'm
glad
you
brought
it
back,
there's
a
sense
of
amount
of
requirements
that
has
been
asked,
but
when
it
comes
to
the
handicap
spaces
I
mean
the
applicant
stated
here
that
he's
done
everything
by
the
rules.
I,
don't
know
if
there's
record
in
the
city
that
there
was
civil
plans
or
grading
partial
grading
plans
that
showed
that
what
he
had
improved
there
was
exactly
the
same.
I
honestly
I
doubted
the
public
works
of
city
of
Palm.
E
Springs
is
pretty
tough,
so
I,
don't
know
what
happened,
but
those
spaces
are
not
compliant
and
I
think
they
should
be
compliant.
As
grace
has
mentioned,
the
rest
of
the
continuous
sidewalk
and
so
on
from
able
bodies
be
able
to
get
from
the
back
parking.
I
think
that's
something
that
we
can
definitely
agree
with
the
applicant,
but
the
handicap
spaces.
Also
it's
to
protect
the
applicant
as
well,
because
you
know
they
are
those
people
who
are
so
happy
and
we
have
all
heard
those
kinds
of
cases.
F
I'm
sorry
I
understand
what
you're
saying
but
I,
let's
assume
for
a
minute
that
the
applicant
back
in
2013
submitted
plans.
They
showed
the
slope
and
were
approved,
and
then
they
were
built
for
the
drawings
and
they
were
signed
off
by
Public
Works.
Let's
assume
that
now,
six
years
later,
we're
telling
the
guy
to
rip
it
out,
because
when
the
city
made
a
mistake
that
doesn't
seem
fair
to
me.
It's
like
two
bites
of
the
Apple
I.
Don't
think
we
get
that
I.
B
P
Did
my
research
when
we
were
conducting
these
conditions
and
there
wasn't
anything
in
our
records
to
show
that
there
was
any
drawings
or
simple
drawings
showing
those
spaces
there?
It
doesn't
mean
that
they
weren't
done
as
part
of
a
you
know,
planning
application
or
some
kind
of
a
building
permit
application
when
they
were
doing
upgrades
to
their
building.
It
just
means
that
they
were
not
presented
to
engineering.
D
D
K
Oh
well,
and
we
want
to
do
what's
right
and
obviously
we
want
to
be
able
to
accommodate
a
da.
It
is
frustrating,
though,
after
you
know,
in
2014,
when
we
redid
the
lot
and
actually
had
the
earth
moving
equipment
in
there
to
flatten
that
and
a
the
architect
was
whom
onion
move
and
who
was
from
architect
Ron,
who
was
did
work
in
Palm
Springs
and
unfortunately
he
was.
K
He
was
killed
by
a
drunk
driver
about
two
years
later,
so
we
can't
go
back
and
talk
to
him
on
his
filings
and
that's
created
an
issue
for
us,
but
the
contractor
was
JH
Thompson,
who
I
included
in
the
in
the
deck
too.
So
at
the
time
you
know
it's
his
responsibility
with
all
of
the
filings
and
he
handled
dish,
and
we
pulled
a
ton
of
permits
from
everything.
K
G
Suggest,
based
on
the
discussions
of
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
interest
in
trying
to
address
the
ad
a
requirements
for
the
interest
of
Public
Safety,
what
you
might
consider
is
keeping
conditions
three
through
five,
which
addresses
a
DA
on
viola
where
the
space
is
and
then
deleting
condition.
Six
to
11
and
again
just
a
suggestion.
Based
on
your
discussion.
D
B
D
B
I
D
D
P
B
D
Comment
on
that
I
understand
why
this
appeal
is
being
made,
but
I
do
feel
in
general
that
we
need
to
be
thinking
more
about
sidewalks
and
access
in
our
downtown
area.
This
isn't
directly
within
the
neighborhood,
it's
very
close
to
Palm
Canyon,
it's
just
one
Street
over
so
in
general,
I
I.
Don't
want
businesses
to
think
that
we're
just
gonna
say
we
can't,
but
it's
okay
to
not
have
a
sidewalk.
We
really
do
want
to
start
thinking
about
having
sidewalks,
as
we
become
more
of
a
walking
City
I.
N
This
but
I
just
I
wanted
to
be
clear.
The
other
commissioners,
the
reason
I
agree
with
grace
and
agree
with
everybody
about
that.
These
are
these
are
important
parts
of
a
city
infrastructure,
but
this
particular
case
is
not
being
this
particular
applicant
isn't
being
treated
fairly
because
of
the
kind
of
change
he
came
before
us
was
so
minor
and
had
to
be
done
to
comply
with
an
ordinance
that
he
had
nothing
to
do
with,
and
we
have
a
nexus
requirement
in
the
state.
N
There's
got
to
be
some
reasonable
relationship
between
what
we're
seeking
and
what
benefit
he's.
Getting.
I
don't
see
the
connection.
So
it's
not
because
I
don't
think
we
should
have
sidewalks
it's
not
because
I
don't
think
we
should
be
a
DA
compliant,
but
in
this
particular
case
I
just
don't
think
the
facts
merit
to
this
kind
of
relief,
hey.
L
I
wanted
to
add
a
little
bit
to
the
discussion,
the
engineering
department,
if
you
do
move
to
go
with
only
engineer,
engineering
conditions
3
to
5
and
not
6
to
7,
we
would
prefer
those
conditions
be
for
the
covenant.
The
street
is
not
to
the
ultimate
with
those
parking
side.
Parallel
parking
czar
within
the
public
right
away,
we
do
have.
The
city
does
have
an
ad
a
transition
plan
where
we
get
opportunities
to
incrementally
improve
the
ad8
conditions
of
the
city,
as
this
is
a
conditional
use
permit.
L
B
L
J
Oftentimes,
when
you're
doing
sidewalk
improvements,
Street
improvement
stuff,
you
want
to
do
them
as
one
unified
project,
but
as
projects
get
improved
on
a
block
over
time,
you
may
only
be
getting
conditions
on
certain
projects
at
certain
times.
So,
rather
than
make
this
project
put
in
the
sidewalk
here
in
this
project,
putting
the
sidewalk
here-
and
you
may
end
up
with
a
bit
of
a
mishmash-
it's
not
uncommon
that
the
engineering
department
will
say
these
are
conditions
of
approval.
You
will
sign
a
covenant
agreeing
to
do
these
when
we
ask
you
to
so.
J
The
requirement
is
deferred
so
that
maybe
three
or
four
years
down
the
line
when
the
city
goes.
Okay,
it's
time
to
do
viola
now.
You've
got
all
those
conditions
and
covenants
in
place
so
that
the
city's
got
the
legal
rights
to
go
in
and
start
doing
those
improvements
and
getting
the
developer
to
pay
for
those
costs
or
have
the
developer.
Do
it
themselves
under
city
super.
J
They
didn't
develop
a
project
or
get
any
conditions
of
approval
and
that
one
property
probably
wouldn't
have
any
sort
of
covenants
or
conditions
on
it,
but
to
the
extent
there
are
other
projects
on
that
block
that
do
have
conditions
that
are
deferred.
The
city
can
then
utilize
those
at
the
time.
You
know
that
the
sale.
N
F
F
J
B
J
I
I
D
J
B
B
J
What
engineering
three
says,
the
existing
driveway
approach
used
for
Bay
parking
does
not
meet
current
ad.
A
remove
existing
approach,
construct,
new
modified
driveway,
so
I
believe
that's
limited
to
just
the
Bay
parking
area.
It
doesn't
go
completely
down
Lola
and
then
four
and
five
are
basically
you
know:
repair
broken
broken
items.
B
The
motion
passes
I
want
to
thank
you
for
coming
up
and
saying
that
you'd
be
happy
to
do
a
da
I
think
it
really
is
in
your
best
interest.
We
really
appreciate
what
you're
doing
at
the
twist
I
think
the
twist
is
an
incredibly
successful
project.
I
see
it
on
Airbnb
all
the
time
and
I
wish
you
continued
success
with
it.
Thank
you
next
item
on
the
agenda
as
a
new
business
item
for
a
yes
would
you,
like
to
click
OK,
we'll
take
a
comfort
break
until
let's
say
attend
after.
B
I'd
like
to
call
the
meeting
back
to
order
for
the
Planning
Commission.
The
next
item
is
item.
4A
news,
new
business,
Asia
San,
Francisco,
Palm,
Springs
LLC
for
a
land
use
permit
amendment
to
modify
the
hours
and
operations
of
the
outdoor
entertainment
musicians
that
are
permitted
as
an
accessory
use
to
a
restaurant
located
at
one
555
South
Palm,
Canyon
Drive.
This
is
the
former
Hacienda
site.
With
that,
can
we
have
a
staff
report?
Please?
Yes,.
O
Mr.
chair
and
planning
commissioners,
this
item
is
a
site.
Look
at
1555,
South
Palm,
Canyon
Drive.
It
is
the
former
OC
in
the
Cantina.
It
is
an
located
within
the
Plaza
del
Sol
shopping
center.
So
what
you
have
here
on
the
screen
is
the
overall
sight
of
the
shopping
center,
surrounded
by
Abelardo
Road
to
the
west
and
south
east
morongo
Road
to
the
north,
south
Palm
Canyon
Drive
to
the
east.
The
project
is
on
the
bottom
right
of
the
screen
to
the
northeast
corner
of
the
site.
O
O
O
O
So
the
afternoon
before,
you
is
requesting
to
modify
the
approval
that
was
granted
to
the
cantina.
They
are
seeking
to
extend
the
operational
hours
from
6:00
p.m.
to
10:00
p.m.
they
in
an
effort
to
address
some
of
the
noise
concerns
that
were
previously
that
we've
received
previously
from
the
prior
operator,
or
at
least
from
the
neighbors
around
there.
They
have
removed
the
speakers
that
were
elevated
above
the
pool
area
and
they
also
intend
to
operate
at
the
site
differently
than
was
previously
done.
O
O
Staff
has
prepared
conditions
of
approval
to
approve
the
lens
use
permit
for
Planning
Commission
consideration.
So
what
you
see
here
on
the
screen
are
some
recommendations
that
we
have
so
we
are
requesting
similar
conditions
that
were
imposed
in
the
prior
land
use
permit,
as
well
as
some
additional
conditions
that
were
imposed
for
another
outdoor
event,
venue
the
infusion
Beach
located
on
North
Palm,
Canyon
Drive.
So
what
you
see
here
are
some
additional
requirements
related
to
sound
limiters
being
installed
as
a
part
of
the
sound
system
for
the
site,
eliminating
the
decibel
and
Hertz.
O
As
you
see
in
the
second
item,
related
to
the
sound
limiter
prohibiting
subwoofers
as
a
part
of
the
project,
operation
I
didn't
are
directing
speakers
inward
to
the
site
and
away
from
residential
areas
and
also
doing
sound
monitoring
station,
if
necessary,
to
ensure
that
there
are
no
conflicts
with
the
noise
ordinance.
Staff
would
also
suggest
that
the
Commission
impose
a
requirement
that
this
item
be
reviewed.
A
report
be
provided
to
the
Planning
Commission
six
months
after
the
date
the
operation
starts.
O
D
O
O
B
B
N
O
You
chair.
Excuse
me
Commissioner
donenfeld.
Yes,
so
if
you
look
at
page
two
of
the
conditions
for
lu,
p,
1906
three,
which
was
attached
to
the
resolution,
you'll,
see
condition
number
five
that
talks
about
the
permit
authorizing
live
bands
and
DJs,
but
it
does
limited
from
8
to
6
p.m.
they
can
have
outdoor
DJs
until
10:00
p.m.
but
if
we
want
to
modify
that,
we
could
have
bands
as
well
until
10:00
p.m.
but
it's
at
the
discretion
of
the
Planning
Commission.
If.
O
I
mean
it's
a
possible,
it's
a
possibility.
It
just
comes
down
to
the
enforcement
and
how
that
that
occurs,
and
that
that's
where
the
challenge
lies
is
managing
their
the
own,
the
applicant,
when
they
have
their
contract
with
someone
else
that
that
person
knows
that
these
requirements
are
in
place
and.
N
N
O
So,
generally,
what
that
means
is
when,
when,
after
they've
been
operating
for
six
months,
staff
would
check
in
with
the
applicant
to
see
how
it
is
going.
We
would
also
do
get
the
police
reports
that
we've
gotten
from
the
police
department
and
report
that
information
back
to
the
Planning
Commission
is
just
a
basically
a
staff
memo.
Okay,.
I
O
B
B
It
was
also
my
understanding
that,
when
it
was
the
cantina
and
I
just
want
to
confirm
had
very
large
high
speakers
that
blasted
a
lot
of
music
relatively
intensely
in
that
this
operation
and
I
think
I
heard
the
applicants
say
that
they've
removed
those
speakers,
which
means
speakers
that
are
brought
in
are
going
to
be
much
lower
to
the
ground
and
obviously
more
spread
dispersed
versus
trying
to
blast
music.
Is
that
your
understanding,
correct.
B
D
So
another
question
is
I
know
that
there's
a
subcommittee
looking
at
new
our
noise
ordinance
right
now,
so
when
we,
if
we
were
to
approve
this
once
that
noise
ordinances
passed
and
if
there's
any
discrepancies,
does
that
change
anything
or
are
they
allowed
to
keep
this
for
the
six
months?
How
does
it
work
they.
G
Would
be
subject
to
these
conditions
of
approval?
One
of
the
things
I
might
mention
is
looking
at
condition
of
approval
number
seven,
which
references
the
city's
noise
ordinance.
What
we
might
do,
instead
of
putting
the
specific
decibel
level
limits,
is
we
might
just
reference
that
the
applicant
shall
be
shall
adhere
to
the
city's
noise
ordinance.
So
if
there's
any
changes
to
the
noise
ordinance,
they're
subject
to
whatever
the
new
requirements
are,
so
that's
one
of
the
things
I
would
recommend,
but
otherwise
they'd
be
subject
to
the
other
conditions
that
you
all
impose
on
the
application.
G
F
O
F
And
then,
but
one
thing
I
do
remember:
cuz
Cathy
was
beating
this
one
up
about
that,
because
the
speakers
were
high
and
that
was
perceived
as
one
of
the
generating
factors
of
the
sound
going
out
to
the
neighborhood
I.
Don't
see
anything
in
here
about
the
height
of
the
speakers.
Can
we
add
that
or
am
I
missing
it?
That's.
O
F
F
I'd,
like
I'd
like
to
make
sure
that
anything
we
put
in
effect
for
the
hotel,
if
it's
not
in
these
comment
or
conditions,
get
added
to
it
if
it's
more
stringent
than
what's
already
in
here,
and
so,
if
you
could
review
those
and
add
those
if
necessary,
I'd
be
more
inclined
to
vote
for
it,
because
we
opined
on
this
for
endless
hours
and
I,
don't
want
to
just
have
to
go
through
that
again.
I
don't
want
to
throw
away
the
good
work
we
did
on
it
as
well.
F
N
Our
standard
for
regulating
noise
issues
on
applications
because
it
was
going
to
be
a
hotel
pool
it
wasn't
going
to
be
a
special
event
pool
anymore.
He
was
converting
it
to
a
hotel
use,
so
I
didn't
think
the
chances
of
there
being
loud
screaming
parties
were
nearly
as
feasible
as
they
were
when
Hacienda
was
in
business.
That's
my
recollection.
Well,.
E
Because
of
the
good
work
that
you
have
done,
I'm
wondering
also
with
this
new
I
mean
with
this
set
of
Corrections.
This
is
a
couple
of
things
and
I'm
would
like
to
ask
or
consider
on
the
periodic
review.
I
know
we
say
six
months
and
I
know
you
mentioned
that
if
we
want
to
change
that
periodic
review,
we
can
also
ask
the
applicant
and
also
come
up
with
a
new
plan,
but
the
on
the
sound
monitoring
where
it
says
also
periodic
operational
review
hearings.
F
F
N
F
H
B
C
F
F
C
You
can
do
that
a
lot
of
ways.
For
instance,
if
we
had
a
fixed,
sound
system
in
the
place,
the
guitar
amp
would
go
to
the
board
and
be
funneled
through
the
sound
system
and
the
guitar
player
instead
of
hearing
it
through
his
amp.
So
he
know
where
he
was
in
the
song.
He
would
hear
it
either
through
a
monitor
speaker
and
more
than
that
today
we
use
in
ear
monitors.
So
that's
how
the
guitar
player,
so
the
amp
was
never
really
meant
to
be.
C
F
C
H
C
H
C
We
are
going
to
purchase
a
compressor,
limiter
and
an
equalizer,
so
if
anybody
wants
to
bring
in
their
own
sound,
they
have
to
run
it
through
our
equipment
so
that
we
can
control
the
pressure
of
the
speaker's
through
the
compressor.
We
can
limit
the
sound
levels
which
are
a
volume
and
the
equalizer
will
will
adjust
the
frequencies
and
limit
them.
So.
F
E
E
H
H
H
We
can
well
it's
my
understanding
that,
as
this
is
prepared,
obviously
it
has
to
happen
every,
but
is
that
what
they
are
suggesting
is
that
we
are
subject
to
these
canoes
that
are
going
to
happen
at
certain
times
right
and
that
there
at
that
time,
if
they
felt
that
we
had
not
adhered
to
the
limits
that
are
specified
in
here
that
they
could
then
require.
So
because
it
is
definitely
an
additional
burden
and
a
substantial
requirement
to
have
us
have
permanent
built-in
monitors
to
begin
with
right.
I
know
that
has
happened
at
one
place.
H
We
didn't
happen
in
another
place,
and
so
that's
kind
of
individual
but
I
feel
like
the.
These
are
pretty
restrictive
proposals
that
we
are
okay
with
to,
except
to
begin
with,
and
that
as
long
as
we
adhere
to
these-
and
there
are
no
complaints-
I
mean
I'm,
not
saying
we
never
get
some
get
a
single
complaint,
but
there's
no
like
credible,
substantial
complaints
that
happen,
that
that
does
seem
like
a
little
bit
of
an
undue
burden
to
us
from
the
very
beginning.
If
we
are
in
compliance
with
what
you
are
asking
us
to
do.
E
H
E
Was
hoping
what
I
was
hoping
is
that
I
think
it
you're
a
wonderful
organization?
You
know
in
the
next
three
months
pretend
you
had
five
events
scheduled
and
in
every
event
you
have
some
recording
that
says
he
didn't
go
over
50
decibels
and
so
much
do
you
know
vibration
and
you
actually
bring
that
record
and
there
are
no
playings
and
what
happens
is
we're
saying
hey.
This
is
to
work,
nobody's
complaining,
you're,
doing
a
good
job,
let's
seal
the
deal
so.
C
So
I
can't
provide
you
with
that
in
one-way
age',
as
asia
does
not
own
this.
I
own
this
I
own
state-of-the-art
DB
meter
and
it
does
record
every
time
it's
being
used
and
I,
not
sure
I
know
how
to
do
this,
but
my
head
engineer
does
I
think
we
can
wirelessly
transmit
it
to
a
computer
and
print
it
out.
It
does
have
a
rating.
It
would
not
be
something
that
was
continuous.
C
Go
the
perimeter
of
the
property
line,
it's
emitting
Li
and
be
able
to
run
the
meter
for
a
period
of
time,
the
DB
meter,
and
we
would
be
able
to
record
what's
going
on
a
waited
because
you
do
DBA
so
a
waited,
and
we
could
do
that
for
a
little
while
I
use
it
in
my
work,
I'm
happy
to
lend
it
to
them
to
have
them,
use
it
and
do
it,
especially
in
their
opening
week,
which
would
be
like
the
most
robust
time
for
them.
I.
C
Imagine
so
we
can
do
that
for
you,
but
as
far
as
data
collection,
the
equipment
that's
required
to
meet
your
conditions
does
not
collect
data.
The
compress
of
the
limiter,
the
equalizer
to
meet
your
condition
does
is
not
a
data
collection.
This
one
DB
meter
is,
and
what
Aaron
is
talking
about
is
the
sound
monitoring
that
you
provided.
One
of
the
other
permits
that
we
looked
at,
which
had
a
higher
DB
level,
I
think
I
read
it
as
66
to
71
required
a
monitoring
system.
C
That's
extremely
expensive
around
the
property
and
I
just
want
to
say
this
that
this
is
not
the
same
business
as
the
previous
business,
so
to
assume
that
they
were
going
to
violate
in
the
same
way
that
the
previous
business
would
violate
is
just
unreasonable
because
they're
not
going
to
that's
their
restaurant,
primarily
and
so
their
outdoor
thing
would
be.
Occasionally
it
wouldn't
be
all
the
time
and
I
just
don't
see
them
violating
in
the
same
way.
I'm.
I
H
Exactly
primarily
again
for
weddings
is
what
I
think
this
would
be
appropriate
and
I
do
not
want
to
like
the
negotiate
against
myself.
We're
trying
to
ask
the
broadest
potential
use
right
of
what
we
could
possibly
do
out.
There
I
think
that
these
are
going
to
be
relatively
infrequent
occasions
that
happen
out
there.
Yes,
it's
seven
days
a
week
between
these
hours,
but
it's
not
like
all
of
a
sudden
there's
gonna,
be
all
this
activity
and
music
going
on
up
there.
H
H
H
B
N
It
was
never
our
intention
to
put
these
music
venues
in
data
collection
modes.
I
mean
that's,
not
what
they
do
well.
I
think
we've
gone
with
the
infusion.
Beach
model
we've
gone
really
far.
You've
got
self
regulators,
you've
got
you've,
got
mechanisms
that
will
turn
the
music
or,
if
they
sense
it,
getting
higher
you're
in
you've
got
the
best
sounding
board
in
the
world.
N
L
B
G
B
D
E
D
So
I
I
do
think
that
we
should
review
sooner
than
6
months
only
because
there
were
a
lot
of
complaints
at
that
property
and
again
it's
not
to
say
that
you
all
will
do
that,
but
because
we're
extending
the
time
to
ten
and
it
used
to
be
six
and
we
had
a
complaints.
I
think
we
should
review
earlier
just
to
make
sure
that
that
were
everything's,
okay
and
that
to
let
the
community
know
as
well
that
we
do
understand
that,
there's
that
they
have
concerns
about
noise
and
that
we're
monitoring
it
closely.
So.
B
D
B
B
N
B
B
O
O
So
the
homes
that
are
the
applicant
has
proposed
before
you
there's
three
floor
plans
that
they
are
presenting
each
home
site
does
have
a
primary
tree,
which
you
see
here
at
in
the
front
of
the
home.
They
do
have
a
landscape
palette
that
was
selected
to
be
consistent
with
the
architectural
guidelines
that
were
approved
by
City
Council
in
November
of
16.
O
And
so,
for
there
are
three
plans
plan,
one
two
and
three.
There
are
three
variations
of
each
plan
so
plan.
You
see
here,
plan
one
variation,
a
B
and
C
are
shown
on
the
screen,
and
this
is
the
street
elevation
for
plan.
One
floor
plan
is
consistent,
pretty
much
across
the
board.
It's
generally
three
bedrooms,
kitchen
area,
living
area,
two-car
garage
and
space
for
an
outdoor
pool
courtyard
areas.
O
O
O
The
subcommittee
the
excuse
me,
the
AAC,
then
reviewed
the
plans
in
July
15th
of
this
year
and
recommended
approval
unanimously
to
the
Planning
Commission,
as
submitted
staff
has
reviewed
the
project
against
the
required
findings
in
Section
90
403
of
the
zoning
code,
and
has
prepared
a
resolution
for
your
consideration
to
adopt
today
that
the
plan
is
consistent
with
the
preliminary
development
plan.
We'd
also
note
that
the
plans
are
consistent
with
your
potential
guidelines
for
the
Maryland
development.
O
B
D
F
So
I'm,
looking
at
the
staff
report,
starting
at
the
bottom
of
page
six
subcommittee,
review,
January,
30,
March,
14,
April
and
there's
I,
don't
know
a
dozen
or
more
bullet
points.
Oh
it
says
it's
on
sorry
there
so
I'm
on
page,
starting
out
the
bottom
of
page
six,
the
staff
report
there's
a
dozen
or
so
maybe
more
bullet
points.
O
N
B
I
will
open
the
public
hearing.
You'll
have
ten
minutes
to
speak
about
your
project.
Excuse
me,
thank
you.
It's
not
a
public
hearing.
Do
you
want
to
hear
from
the
applicant
it's
a
long
day
just
to
stand
hold
and
maybe
there'll
be
a
question
coming
up
later
I'm,
so
apologize,
it's
been
a
long
afternoon.
B
E
B
F
E
Like
what
are
you
going
a
couple
of
questions
about
a
little
bit
about
control,
joint
to
excessive
on
the
control
joint,
almost
airing
to
the
commercial
side?
Okay,
so,
for
example,
on
the
very
top
one
on
the
archway
that
you
have
designed,
you
have
a
control
joint
smack
right
in
the
middle
right
of
that
archway
and,
what's
interesting
to
me,
is
that
you
have
sort
of
these
rectilinear
forms
and
then,
when
you
throw
in
that
control,
join
it
gets
a
map.
It
gets
it
back
to
more
of
a
rectangular
or
square
is
kind
of
proportion.
E
So
simply
said:
can
you
just
put
a
control
join
along
the
bottom
line
and
then
get
rid
of
the
one
in
the
middle?
So
it
doesn't
interrupt
that
archway
and
so
ii.
Simply
said.
Second
way
of
simply
said
was
is
to
say:
could
you
review
the
control
joins
and
be
you
know
at
one-third
less
than
what
you
have
right
now,
because
I
think
it's
it's
breaking
your
lines
a
bit
too
much
I.
M
Don't
have
a
problem
with
that.
A
lot
of
those
control
joints
were
developed
through
the
process.
This
this
list
here,
which
I
had
no
contribution
to
any
of
this
report,
just
clarify
that.
But
this
list
here
was
a
list
of
all
the
items,
major
items
that
we
did
cover
during
those
meetings
and
all
these
items
were
addressed
as
we
continued
to
come
back
during
those
those
other
the
of
the
three
meetings
that
we
had
so
so.
M
E
E
Yes
under
cover
and
there's
one
where,
anyway,
let's
start
with
this
one
so
again
with
this
one
having
one
being
in
the
middle
I
think
the
proportion
looks
better
if
there's
four
equally
divided,
because
it
was
really
there's
a
reason
why,
anyway,
so
the
three
and
then
the
middle
control
join
kind
of
throws
off
the
whole
I
think
design
that
you're
trying
to
put
together
then
there's
I
think
it's
the
other
side,
so
variation
a
front
side.
What
happens
is
the
flat
roof
when
it
dies
into
the
shed
roof?
E
E
M
To
begin
with,
and
one
of
the
comments
was
to
show
a
purpose
or
connection
between
the
building
and
the
roof,
and
that
was
our
interpretation
of
showing
that
connection
or
that
you
know
it's
to
see
some
of
the
structure,
and
so
you
know
as
long
as
that's
something
that
we're
not
going
backwards
with
the
rest
of
the
Commission
or
with
you
know
the
particular
committee
member
that
made
that
comment.
I,
don't
see
any
problems
with
doing
that
as
long
as
you
know,
working
with
staff
to
do
that.
E
It
is
a
challenge:
I
mean
it's
an
it's
a
large
number
of
homes,
very
close
to
each
other.
So
you
because
there's
so
many
details,
you're
trying
to
be
a
little
more
balanced.
So
in
some
ways,
I
know,
I'm
contradict
think
about
a
little
more
on
the
beans
and
then
a
little
less
on
the
control
joints.
I
think
we'll
make
it
a
little
more
balanced.
We.
B
E
E
E
On
on
that
control
join
that
control
join
that
control
join
in
that
control,
joint
and
I
know
there's
a
plasterer
requirement,
but
he
can
have
a
control
joint
underneath
that
and
he
will
meet
the
same
requirement
so
by
having
less
it
cleans
it
up
a
little
bit
more
and
then,
when
it
comes
to
these
rafters
in
reality,
the
disband
between
these
size
beams
is
about
four
feet,
because
that's
what
the
plywood
panel
size
is.
So
if
he
had
two
more
there,
then
he
works
very
well
with
those
control
joints.
I
wouldn't.
B
B
N
B
B
Almost
the
last
item
on
the
agenda
not
completely
item
4c,
pinnacle
problem,
Springs
LLC
for
a
major
architectural
application
for
the
construction
of
a
four
thousand
five
hundred
and
twenty
seven
square
foot
house
on
a
hillside
lot
in
an
administrative,
minor
modification
for
a
reduction
in
the
in
the
front
yard
setback
and
an
increase
in
the
building
height
located
at
17:30
pinnacle
point.
Can
we
have
a
staff
report?
Please
Thank.
A
You,
chair
I'll,
have
a
brief
presentation
on
some
slides
here
that
are
before
you
so
lot.
10
is
the
third
house
that
you've
seen
for
this
developer
Brian
foster,
so
you
approved
lot
two,
which
is
across
the
street
lot,
seven,
which
is
at
the
end
of
the
cul-de-sac
and
now
you're
here
to
see
lot
10
and
earlier
in
the
meeting
a
resident
had
shown
you
an
auroral
that
runs
the
back
of
this
house.
You
can
clearly
see
it
on
this
aerial.
So
I
wanted
to
point
that
out
before
I
move
forward.
A
Runs
along
the
back
of
the
property,
so
the
rear
of
the
property.
If
you
can
see
this
sort
of
lighted
area
where
there's
no
vegetation
or
rocks
and
when
the
subdivision
was
planted,
there
were
buildable
areas,
and
this
was
notable
that
you
did
not
want
to
grade
into
this
area
which
pushes
the
developable
area
forward
and
that's
one
of
the
justifications
for
the
administrative
minor
modification
to
reduce
the
front
yard
setbacks.
So
four
Lots,
two
and
Lots
seven
and
then
the
three
houses
that
are
already
constructed.
A
We
have
reduced
the
front
yard
setback
to
18
feet
and
18.
Feet
allows
a
car
to
park
off
of
the
street
and
in
the
driveway
that
leads
into
the
garage.
So
what
they're
asking
for
is
a
setback
reduction
of
the
front
yard
from
25,
which
they
would
need
normally
do
to
18
and
that's
consistent
with
the
rest
of
the
development.
A
A
I'll
quickly
go
through
some
of
these
slides
you'll.
This
is
a
colouring
rendering
of
the
design
of
the
house
with
the
pool
and
the
west
facing
side,
as
I
mentioned,
the
the
road
slopes
from
the
east
to
the
west.
So
the
on
the
on
this
slide.
On
the
right
hand,
side
is
the
higher
end
and,
on
the
left
hand,
side
is
lower
end
and
there's
a
retaining
wall
that
is
currently
or
will
be
constructed
along
the
East
property
line,
which
you
can
see
on
the
right-hand
side
of
the
slide.
A
The
material
board
that
has
been
passed
around
to
you
shows
all
the
main
stucco
color,
which
is
the
brown
a
darker
color,
which
is
the
accent
and
accent
number
two
is
actually
the
garage
door.
The
project
was
reviewed
by
the
AC
twice
back
on
in
June
and
then
in
July
and
in
the
staff
report.
There's
a
listing
of
what
the
discussion
was
by
the
AC
one
of
the
the
the
second
time
that
the
house
went
back
for
a
AC
review.
A
So
the
design
of
the
house
is
a
screen
sort
of
box
that
goes
along
the
guest
room.
The
front
entry
is
on
to
a
gate
and
then
into
the
courtyard,
with
a
window
to
a
bedroom
and
then
the
garage
on
the
right-hand
side.
So
these
are
variations
of
some
of
the
designs.
One
of
the
recommendations
from
AAC
was
to
add
a
cantilever
over
the
garage
in
this
photograph.
A
It
doesn't
show
it
but
I'm
gonna
get
to
a
few
that
do
show
it,
and
this
slide
shows
the
relationship
to
the
slope
of
the
street
and
then
the
houses
that
are
currently
built,
which
is
the
tan
house,
and
then
the
new
house
on
the
left
above
this
house
on
lot.
Seven
one
of
the
the
recommendations
from
the
AC
there's
a
master
bedroom,
which
is
where
the
gray
boxes
was
to
extend
an
overhang,
and
they
did
that
so
that
meets
one
of
the
requirements
of
the
AC.
A
A
So
in
this
slide,
I'd
like
to
talk
about
a
little
bit
the
heights,
as
I
mentioned,
it's
18
feet,
setback
from
the
front
yard
setback,
the
corner
of
the
guest
wing
on
the
left.
Ten
side
is
14
feet,
six
inches
tall,
which
is
above
what
would
be
allowed
at
the
setback
line,
which
is
12
feet
so
part
of
the
AMM
is
to
reduce
the
front
yard
setback
and
increase
the
building
height
to
14,
feet
six
inches
and
then
at
the
garage.
It
also
is
at
12
feet
six
inches,
so
the
house
is
requesting.
A
A
So
going
back
to
the
the
garage.
This
is
a
new
exhibit
showing
the
the
eyebrow
that
they're
proposing
to
add
above
the
garage-
and
this
is
another
side
view
showing
how
it
will
project
over
the
garage
and
there's
a
series
of
if
the
Planning
Commission
remembers
at
the
last,
the
at
last
houses
you've
requested
that
there
be
photo
simulations
showing
what
it
looks
like
from
different
street
views,
and
this
is
at
the
top
of
the
hill.
Looking
down
from
lot
7,
you
can
see
the
roof
of
this
house.
A
A
There
is
always
a
series
of
floor
plans,
their
site
sections,
there's
the
planning
of
the
AC
was
interested
in
how
the
Box
element
section
was
devised,
and
this
is
what
this
is
showing
the
cross-sections
of
the
street
versus
the
retaining
walls,
grading
plan
and
then
lighting
the
applicant
provided
the
plant,
the
AC
detail,
lighting
fixture
show
the
adjustable
slot
aperture.
That
would
focus
the
light
down
onto
the
the
outdoor
areas
and
not
have
light
spill
into
the
area.
A
This
is
a
photograph
of
an
actual
house
that
the
the
applicant
has
built,
showing
how
this
light
shielding
works
and
then
some
photographs
showing
the
existing
conditions
on
the
site.
I,
don't
have
any
photographs
of
the
Swale
that
runs
in
the
back
of
a
lot
but
I.
This
kind
of
shows
how
steep
it
is
in
this
photograph.
A
So
the
in
your
staff
report
there
are
findings
that
the
Planning
Commission
can
make
to
approve
the
major
architectural
and
also
the
administrative
monitor
modification
to
reduce
the
front
yard
setback
and
the
increase
in
building
height.
So
that
concludes
my
report
and
I'm
here
to
answer
a
question
that
so
is
the
applicant.
Thank.
F
A
Let
me
go
back
to
the
aerial
photograph,
so
the
and
I
haven't
been
up
on
the
site,
but
I
have
been
over
there.
They
did
some
grading
on
lot
two
and
on
lot,
seven,
which
is
the
top
of
the
hill,
and
they
did
great
into
the
Swale,
and
our
engineering
department
was
out
there
and
RIT
may
have
some
comments.
P
I
did
speak
with
a
member
of
the
HOA
this
morning
and
we
discussed
and
I
had
not
had
a
chance
to
convey
this
to
the
developer.
Yet
we
they
would
like
to
see
some
kind
of
an
exhibit
showing
how
they're
going
to
restore
the
area
once
they're
done
with
the
grading
and
how
they
plan
on
restoring
it
and
then
what's
going
to
happen
with
it
afterwards,
they're
gonna
hydro
see
they're
gonna
put
back
some
boulders,
but
this
doesn't
pertain
to
this
lot.
P
E
To
rank
this
black
outline
shows
the
property
lot
property
line,
correct,
correct,
okay
and
about
a
fifth
down
from
the
north
side.
If
North
is
up,
we
have
this
natural
Arroyo,
ditch
running
through
correct,
correct
okay.
So
when
I
look
at
their
landscape
or
see
one
precise
grading
plan
mm-hmm
from
what
I
could
tell,
is
that
the
steep
slope
that's
going
quickly
down
within
the
15
foot
setback.
P
Some
of
that
in
here
with
the
boulders
that
they're
proposing
in
there
I
suspect
that
the
plan
check
that
we
do
on
this
once
this
is
submitted
for
plan
check.
That
there'll
be
a
little
bit
more
description
in
there
as
to
how
they're
going
to
reinforce
that
that
little
slope
of
that
Arroyo,
that's
grunning
through
that
property.
So
by
our
drainage
rules,
they
are
required
to
accept
and
convey
all
off-site
flows
coming
on
to
the
property.
So
they
have
to
accept
it,
convey
it
properly
and
push
it
back
out.
E
A
So
we've
had
a
lot
of
discussion
on
some
of
these
other
Lots
about
the
the
pool
fencing.
If
you
remember
at
let's
Evan,
there
was
a
combination
of
a
glass
panel
in
a
rock
kind
of
we
don't
know
there
was
no,
you
know
he's
intention
he
may
want
to
answer
this
question:
is
that
they're,
based
upon
the
slopes
that
they
won't
need
a
fence?
A
B
B
I
I
A
B
I
N
B
D
A
question
about
earlier
today
with
the
Cannabis
things
so
I,
because
it
did
take
a
lot
of
our
time
and
I.
Think
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
more
discussion
once
we
get
more
back
from
you,
the
next
meeting.
What
is
the
process
if
we
don't
finish
reviewing
it?
If
we
feel
like
we
need
more
time,
I'm
just
curious
now,
instead
of
asking
then
mm-hmm.
G
While
the
City
Council
would
like
to
have
recommendations
from
you
by
the
end
of
the
month,
and
that
only
gives
us
the
next
meeting
to
do
that,
you
know
there's
always
the
possibility
that
you
may
be
able
to
extend.
Let
me
do
this.
Let
me
talk
with
the
City
Council
subcommittee,
see
if
there's
any
issues.
If
we
continue
this
through
your
first
meeting
in
October,
okay,.
B
I
I
I
B
I
G
See
so
in
response
to
the
questions,
what
is
the
status
of
the
citation?
What
is
the
penalty
current
status
as
the
owner
has
reached
out
to
us
to
register
the
property?
Is
vacant?
They
are
required
to
register
the
property
annually
until
they
begin
pulling
permits
to
start
construction
penalty
for
citations,
starts
at
1500
and
goes
up
to
15,000
a.
F
G
What
specific
citation
will
be
issued
if
the
owners
fail
to
comply
by
September
28th
the,
since
the
owners
complying
with
registering
the
property
securing
and
maintain
the
property.
We
will
not
cite
the
owner,
so
they
are
going
through
the
process
to
cure
the
violation
anything
registered
as
vacant
as
vacant
you're.
G
I
My
concern
isn't
about
security,
it's
about
the
fact
that
it's
a
blight
according
to
the
way
that
the
ordinance
is
written,
it's
an
abandoned
or
if
they
had
within
six
months,
not
done
any
construction
on
it
under
the
current
code
or
ordinance.
Then
it's
in
violation
whether
it's
registered
whatever
the
term
is
or
not.
Okay,.
G
G
G
Just
looking
at
your
agenda
on
the
25th
and
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
reserve
enough
time
for
you
to
discuss
the
cannabis
ordinance.
There
is
one
item
that
I'm
going
to
move
off
the
agenda.
There's
a
couple
of
items
that
should
be
rather
quick
discussions,
but
what
I'm
wondering
is?
Would
we
like
to
start
the
Planning
Commission
meeting
a
little
bit
earlier
on
that
date,
just
to
make
sure
that
we
can
get
through
the
agenda
and
that.