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A
B
A
C
A
All
in
favor
aye
that
passes
there
is
no
consent
calendar.
Well,
we
are
going
into
public
comments.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
Planning
Commission
on
consent,
calendar
and
other
agenda
items
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
purview
of
the
Commission.
Please
note
that
the
Planning
Commission
is
prohibited
from
taking
actions
on
items
not
listed
in
the
postage
n
hosted
agenda.
Three
minutes
is
allowed
for
each
member
of
the
public
to
testify
people
who
are
here
testifying
on
items
1a
and
items
4a
should
speak
now.
A
E
So
we
need
to
really
stop
and
look
at
what's
going
on
overall,
regarding
extending
regarding
to
see.
First
of
all,
this
address
that
is
on
here
is
not
on
the
suspension
list,
that
is,
on
the
vacation
rental
compliance
department
website.
So
it's
missing
from
there
I
looked
up
some
information
on
it.
The
three
citations
were
for
nine
September,
17th
March
and
May
2018
for
music,
one
for
advertising,
I'm,
saying
revoke
the
land
use
permit
permit
on
this
and
going
forward.
E
We
have
one
other
suspended
STR
that
I
can
find,
and
that
is
South
No,
the
very
first
one
actually
on
the
website.
It's
a
five-bedroom
and
it
was
suspended
on
July
2017.
It
doesn't
come
back
up
until
july
2019,
so
here
we
already
have
one
that
has
been
sitting
for
over
a
year
and
this
new
one
that's
coming
up.
E
So
there's
the
clustering
and
density
issue,
the
suspension
issue,
the
tracking
of
the
permits
I
just
mentioned
that
this
one
is
not
even
on
the
vacation
rental
compliance
website
has
suspended.
So
we
already
have
a
tracking
issue.
So
you
guys
shouldn't
have
to
track
in
the
city,
have
to
track
what
was
already
suspended
and
also,
if
it's
revoked
it
should
just
be
a
new
process.
The
knowledge
of
not
having
caps
in
place.
E
Also
should
be
a
concern
that
goes
back
to
clustering
and
danci
around
land
use
permits,
and
then
we
just
had
an
issue
happen
in
the
board
administration
Board
of
Appeals
regarding
a
property
on
South
RV
that
was
marking
in
itself
as
a
five-bedroom,
even
though
the
Riverside
County
listed
as
a
four-bedroom.
So
we
can't
even
reel
in
and
track
this
properly
as
to
what's
out
there
already.
So
the
land
use
permit
is
very
much
in
need,
but
we
need
to
be
able
to
come
back
to
tracking
again
and
there's
two
areas
right.
G
E
I'm
sorry,
the
last
time
I
spoke
to
a
lot,
a
member
of
this
committee.
Why
don't
see
here?
This
is
a
Planning
Commission,
a
member
of
the
City
Council
I
was
informed
that
the
Serena
Serena
Park
project
was
asked
to
produce
three
million
dollars
for
a
continuation
of
this
project.
I
would
like
to
ask
this
board
if
that
money
has
been
appropriated
by
Serena
Park,
as
required
by
the
City
Council.
E
E
E
A
A
The
consent
calendar
includes
the
July
25th
2018
study
session
minutes
and
the
July
25th
2018
minutes.
I
had
I
have
questions
I
had
some
questions
and
I,
don't
think.
We've
I
had
some
questions
about
the
accuracy
of
some
of
the
testimony
of
the
applicant
at
the
study
session.
I
think
I
gave
those
to
Flynn
the
other
day
and
I'd
like
to
hold
that
for
another
meeting,
so
that
we
can
get
that
act
accurate.
It
was
an
answer
to
some
of
the
questions
we
asked
and
the
response
in
the
minutes
was
not
complete.
H
D
A
They're
continuing
on
and
Owen
favor
aye
any
opposed;
okay,
public
hearings,
VSL
vsp
LLC
for
timberlake
holdings
and
an
Chrisman
seeking
approval
of
a
conditional
you
permit
to
allow
a
bar
lounge
within
the
Kaptur
Plaza
at
600,
East,
tahquitz
canyon,
way
a
class-one
historical
site
staff
report.
Please.
F
F
The
wine
lounge
would
be
approximately
3,800
square
feet
in
size
and
they
have
provided
a
description
of
the
proposed
use.
As
you
see
in
the
attachment
to
the
staff
report
and
the
like
the
type
of
license
that
they
are
seeking
with
the
Department
of
Alcoholic
Beverage
Control
is
a
type
48
on
sale
general
license
and
when
staff
did
the
analysis
of
this
project,
it
is
located
within
the
tourist
resort,
commercial
general
plan
designation,
as
well
as
the
retail
entertainment
office,
designation
of
the
section
14
specific
plan.
F
The
use
is
permitted
by
conditional
use
permit
in
the
specific
plan
and
the
parking
does
comply
with
the
D
downtown
parking
combining
zone
requirements
which
are
stipulated
in
the
specific
plan
staff
forward.
The
proposal
to
the
fire
and
police
departments,
the
fire
department,
responded
with
the
conditions
that
you
have
as
a
part
of
the
attached
resolution,
and
the
police
department
indicated
three
conditions,
as
are
also
part
of
your
draft
resolution.
Generally,
the
police
department
is
concerned
with
liquor
related
si
ups.
F
As
with
with
some
security,
they
usually
require
a
security
plan,
if
deemed
appropriate,
ensuring
that
the
applicant
will
comply
with
noise,
ordinance,
stipulations
and
obviously
work
amicably
with
the
police
department.
So
those
are
all
part
of
your
draft
resolution
before
you.
Staff
made
findings
in
support
of
the
project,
so
you'll
see
those
in
your
staff
report.
F
There
isn't
any
residential
adjacent
to
the
property.
It
is
surrounded
with
commercial
on
all
sides.
The
nearest
residence
residential
complex
is
further
to
the
north
of
the
site.
So
it's
not
directly
adjacent
one
thing.
I
would
note
as
a
correction
to
your
conditions
is
the
applicant
had
noted
in
their
requests
to
have
hours
from
noon
to
2:00
a.m.
daily
staff
indicated
noon
to
midnight.
So
we
would
note
that
the
requests,
the
condition
would
be
modified
to
allow
it
to
am
closing.
F
D
D
F
D
F
So
it
looks
like
I
believe
the
main
entry
to
the
facility
is
at
the
southeast
corner
of
the
building.
There's
a
doorway
that
show
that
enters
into
looks
like
a
seating
area
and-
and
they
also
have
an
entry
long
at
the
on
the
west
side
of
the
space.
But
I
don't
believe
that
that's
the
primary
insurer
I
believe
the
primary
entry
is
at
the
southeast
corner.
We.
D
H
Newell
I
have
a
question,
and
this
reply
is
not
only
to
this
one,
but
the
other
COP
were
looking
at
for
capture
plaza
in
measuring
the
required
parking
requirements.
You
note
that
85
spaces
are
required
for
this
facility.
This
bar
and
you
measure
it
against
a
total
parking
count
of
143,
is
that
143
for
the
total
parking
capture
plaza
or
the
western
portion
of
capture
plaza
and
in
in
either
case?
If
we,
if
all
these
tenants
are
filled
out,
aren't
we
going
to
exceed
143
spaces
so.
G
H
F
Know
the
so
the
32,000
square
footage
that
we
note
on
page
three
of
the
report
is
for
all
four
buildings,
so
that
is
for
the
entire
complex.
The
85
that
is
required
is
based
on
the
downtown
parking
combining
zone,
which
is,
is
a
a
bit
more
lenient
than
our
typical
office
standard
for
parking.
So
I
believe
what
happened
when
this
site
was
built.
Was
they
analyzed
it
as
a
as
a
general
business
or
office
use
which
had
much
higher
requirements
for
parking
now
that
it's
part
of
the
Dee
downtown
parking
combining
zone?
F
H
D
F
F
F
B
B
J
Now,
okay,
I'm,
the
property
owner
and
I
just
want
to
clarify
a
couple
things:
Susan
Sukhoi
did
the
application
for
the
conditional
use
permit
and
there
is
a
outside
patio
that
they
will
be
using
for
outside.
That
is
enclosed
and
approved
by
the
ABC,
and
they
can
address
the
office
hours
and
things
like
that.
But
that
should
definitely
be
included
and
now
they're
here
to
tell
you
about
their
operation
and
the
business
and
we're
surrounded
all
by
hotels.
So
we've
got
the
Renaissance.
J
K
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Mikey
cons.
Brooke
I
got
my
Mikey,
I
am
the
owner
of
the
wine
room
in
Los
Angeles,
and
so
it's
always
been
my
long-term
plan
to
move
out
to
Palm
Springs
and
expand
my
business.
The
the
LA
one
started
out
life
as
a
true
tasting
room.
What
I
do
is
I
represent
very
small
wine
makers
throughout
California
and
we
give
them
a
voice
in
Los
Angeles
for
their
their
goods
and
wares
and
delicious
items.
K
By
and
large
I
represent
Garage
East
wine
makers,
a
definition
that
is
a
wine
maker
that
makes
less
than
two
thousand
cases
of
wine
per
year.
A
small
wine
maker
would
make
about
25,000
cases
per
year,
so
what
I've
done
is
I've,
given
these
guys
and
gals
a
voice
in
a
space
that
went
from
being
a
tasting
room
into
a
little
wine
bar
in
Los
Angeles.
What
we
do
is
we
offer
over
a
hundred
wines
by
the
glass
another
hundred
by
the
bottle.
People
can
come
in
and
enjoy
the
space
in
a
very
relaxed
atmosphere.
K
We
do
events
where
people
can
learn
about
the
wine
industry.
They
learn
about
the
winemakers.
We
bring
winemakers
in
and
they
do
presentations
and
tastings.
We
do
events
where
you
can
learn
how
to
pair
wine
with
food,
how
to
identify
wines
blindly
by
just
the
nuances
of
the
wine
itself
this
evening,
back
in
LA
we're
doing
an
event
where
we're
pairing
wine
with
music
and
chocolates,
and
we
call
it
five
senses
to
engage
all
five
of
your
senses.
K
So
what
we
would
like
to
do
in
Palm
Springs
is
piggyback
off
of
what
we've
done
in
Los
Angeles
and
bring
out
really
an
extensive
wine
list
to
Palm
Springs
in
LA
I've,
rented
a
building
from
the
1920s
that
would
used
to
be
a
library,
so
we've
rehabbed
it
into
a
wine
library
out
here
at
the
Kaptur
Plaza.
We
would
like
to
give
an
homage
to
the
history
of
the
building,
essentially
create
a
1950's
lounge.
So
it's
going
to
be
wine
centric,
but
we
do.
K
We
are
asking
for
a
full
liquor
license
to
have
classic
50s
cocktails
and
60s
cocktails.
It's
gonna
be
a
lot
different
than
your
average
bar
that
you
would
go
to.
This
is
not
a
Spring
Break
bar
where
there's
not
many
daiquiris
blended.
This
is
going
to
be
something
that's
very
conversational,
very
fun.
You
can
bring
your
family
to
it.
You
can
go
on
a
first
date
there
you
can
bring
your
friends
sit
down
and
hear
each
other
talking
to
each
other
from
across
the
table.
K
We
envision
this
as
a
space
that
is
going
to
be
a
benefit
to
Palm
Springs,
because
there's
nothing
else
like
it
right
now.
There
are
a
few
different
wine
establishments
in
town,
but
there's
nothing
that
you
can
go
to
and
learn
about.
The
California
wine
industry
experience
it
firsthand
meet
winemakers
experience,
different
educational
events
and,
in
addition,
enjoy
it
as
a
regular
lounge.
So
we're
calling
it
the
V
wine
lounge,
because,
while
its
wine
centric,
we
will
have
classic
cocktails,
but
it's
not
at
all
going
to
be
a
club
or
a
noisy
area.
K
So
that
is
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
that's
what
our
goal
is
and
we're
very
excited
to
be
here
in
Palm,
Springs
we've
been
saying
for
a
while
that
the
concept
the
design
is
our
love
letter
to
Palm
Springs.
Well,
we
weren't
here
in
the
mid
century.
That
is
the
era
that
we
absolutely
love
in
a
door.
So
this
is
our
V
wine,
lounge
hi.
I
E
A
A
A
H
K
There
is
not
gonna,
be
a
full
kitchen
there,
but
what
we
do
have
is
we're
we're
expecting
out
a
space
for
a
caterer
to
use.
They
can
come
in
as
a
prep
kitchen.
So
it's
going
to
be
fully
compliant
with
all
Health
Department
codes
and
regulations,
and
this
space
will
be
where
someone
can
bring
in
food
and
warm
it
up
or
have
it
put
together
and
then
take
out
on
pass
around
plates
or
set
it
up
and
on
like
a
buffet.
K
Correct
yeah
everything
all
the
cooking
we
off
premises
in
Los
Angeles.
What
we
do
do
is
we
create
custom,
charcuterie
and
cheese
platters,
none
of
which
is
required,
heating
or
cooking
of
any
kind.
We
do
plan
on
doing
that
in
Palm
Springs
as
well.
In
addition,
in
LA,
I
have
partnered
up
with
restaurants
adjacent
to
me
and
we've
offered
their
food
at
the
the
wine
bar.
That
way,
somebody
could
sit
down
and
order
some
tapas
or
sit
down
order.
A
pizza
enjoy
that
type
of
food
with
wine,
something
that
we
don't
offer
well.
K
K
H
K
K
A
B
B
K
B
K
B
K
B
There
now
that
is
or
no
okay,
I,
don't
I,
just
don't
remember
it.
Okay
and
we'll
have
comments
later
right.
All.
A
C
A
A
F
D
A
F
D
Exterior
changes,
if
any
yeah,
unless
something
else
has
a
comment,
I'm
ready
to
move
on,
make
a
motion.
B
Yeah
from
my
opinion
on
the
amplified,
music
I
would
I
I,
don't
think
it's
gonna,
be
an
issue
I
think
having
some
amplified
music
out
on
that
patio
would
be
fine,
given
that
it's
on
tahquitz,
which
is
a
fair.
You
know
it's
a
busy
street
and
as
plan
renewal
just
mentioned
the
closest
Residential's
500
feet
away.
I
I
just
don't
see
it
as
being
a
problem
like
I,
don't
know
if
we
could
put
something
in
there
conditional
and
coming
back
in
six
months
and
reviewing
it,
but
I
just
don't
see
it's.
D
B
Just
saying
I:
don't
think
we
need
to
put
that
in
as
a
condition
of
our
approval
I'm
happy
to
allow
them
to
have
some
outside
music,
given
how
far
away
the
the
residential
is.
We
allow
that,
at
the
arrived
hotel,
we're
allowing
it
at
the
Bilardo
lardo
Hotel,
the
one
that
the
haciendas
taken,
the
place
of
and
residential
is
much
more
closer,
much
closer
to
those
two
places
than
it
is
to
this.
This
is
downtown
I.
Just
don't
see
it
I
think.
G
H
It
becomes
a
problem
because
we
know
there
are
speakers,
and
then
there
are
speakers
and
if
we
simply
don't
don't
talk
about
amplified
music
you're,
not
you're,
not
likely
to
have
any
control
over
what
those
speakers
might
be
and
since
they
haven't
asked
for
it,
I
would
suggest
we
go
ahead
with
the
condition
if
things
change
and
they
feel
they
need
it.
They
can
always
come
back
to
us
and
then
we
can
analyze.
What
kind
of
music
is
being
provided
outside.
L
G
L
G
L
So
if
they
had
app,
if
they
activated
the
patio
with
a
little
bit
of
music-
and
it
became
a
problem
I'm
just
repeating
myself-
it
would
our
noise
ordinance
would
kick
in,
and
if
our
noise
ordinance
kicked
in
enough
and
there
were
citations
issued,
it
would
go
against
the
Cu
P.
Is
that
correct
without.
L
They're
good
and
I
guess
my
comments
are
I,
am
in
support
of
the
project.
I
want
to
acknowledge
the
applicant
very
strongly
for
vitalizing,
some
of
our
historic
preservation
in
the
city
and
seen
the
benefit
to
going
into
a
historic
building
within
our
city.
I,
really
like
the
idea
of
activating
the
outdoor
area
with
our
climate,
especially
when
there
is
absolutely
or
at
this
point,
not
foreseen
as
a
problem
with
neighbors
I
would
be
in
support
of
amplified
music
if
they
wanted
it,
since
our
noise
ordinance
would
indeed
capture
it.
So
those
are
my
comments.
I
D
I'm
really
excited
about
this
project,
in
fact,
I'm
too
excited
because
I
live
just
nearby,
but
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
seeing
it
I,
don't
see
a
reason
for
restricting
amplified
music
at
this
point
in
time.
Unless
it
becomes
a
problem,
we
have
a
noise
ordinance
which
says
that
the
noise
can't
travel
beyond
the
property
boundaries,
and
if
that
becomes
a
problem
we
can.
We
can
address
it
as
an
amendment
to
the
cep,
flynn's
giving
me
a
look
like
he
wants
to.
C
D
C
Chair
I
was
just
going
to
suggest,
based
on
the
comments
that
we've
heard
from
the
Planning
Commission.
What
we
might
do
is
put
in
a
condition
of
approval
that
mirrors
the
same
conditions
we
placed
on
the
outside,
amplified
music
at
the
Bilardo
Hotel,
where
patrons
can
carry
on
conversations
that
the
music
isn't
so
loud
and
then
invokes
the
limitations
that
we
have
in
the
noise
ordinance.
So
if
that
would
be
acceptable
to
the
Planning
Commission,
we
would
transfer
those
same
conditions
here
to
allow
outdoor
amplification,
but
with
some
limitations.
A
I
was
concerned
about
speakers
on
the
outside,
because
we
actually
have
hotels
in
the
periphery
and
noise
can
intrude
on
people's
abilities
to
sleep,
but
I
think
what
they're
proposed
sounds:
lovely
I'm,
just
not
comfortable,
adding
a
condition,
I'm
comfortable,
passing
the
staff
report,
and
so
I
guess
I'll
make
a
motion
for
the
staff
report.
If
somebody
wants
to
change
it
and.
H
F
H
H
D
A
A
The
next
item
is
Timberlake
Holdings
and
an
Chrisman
seeking
approval
of
a
conditional
use
permit
to
allow
medical
offices,
offices
and
personal
services
within
the
existing
buildings
at
Kaptur
Plaza
located
at
600,
650,
707,
50,
east
tahquitz,
canyon
way
a
class
1
historical
site,
and
this
is
a
blanket
Co
P.
So
can
you
explain
that
please,
yes,.
F
Madam
chair
commissioners,
so
what
you
have
before
you
is
essentially
a
flexibility
permit,
conditional
use
permit
for
the
the
property
owner
to
lease
the
property
owner
is
looking
for
flexibility
when
leasing
out
the
four
buildings
which
are
known
as
Kaptur
Plaza,
so
the
properties
are
within
the
REO
retail
entertainment
office,
designation
of
the
section
14
specific
plan
within
that
document.
There's
a
list
of
permitted
uses.
F
Currently
the
requirement
for
the
REO
zone
is
that
any
medical
office
or
personal
convenience
service
does
require
conditional
use
permit
that
personal
and
convenience
services
are
defined
as
barbers
beauty
and
nail
salons.
Spas,
tailors,
dry
cleaners,
self-service
laundries
so
similarly
uses
to
those.
So
what
the
applicant
is
is
seeking
today
is
an
approval
to
allow
any
of
those
types
of
uses
within
the
existing
floor
space
of
the
buildings.
F
As
we
noted
with
the
previous
item,
there
is
adequate
parking
based
on
current
parking
standard
requirements
for
the
complex
and
there.
The
African
is
also
seeking
this
because
it
becomes
cost
prohibitive
for
future
applicants
when
they
are
trying
to
establish
a
business
within
the
existing
buildings.
Roughly,
the
current
cost
of
a
conditional
use
permit
is
about
$6,500
for
a
small
business
when
trying
to
establish
in
an
existing
location.
So
that
is
the
request
before
you
today.
F
As
you
see
on
page
three
of
your
report,
there
is
a
summary
of
leased
space
that
is
either
tentative
or
confirmed
by
the
the
property
owner
for
each
of
the
uses
within
the
buildings,
so
that
kind
of
gives
you
an
idea
as
to
what
the
current
status
is
of
the
property
and
what
spaces
are
are
so
remaining.
There
are
quite
a
bit
of
space
that
still
is
to
be
leased.
So,
as
I
said,
the
project
does
comply
with
parking
standards.
F
B
You
was
that
the
complete
list
of
personal
services
in
the
code
that
you
just
read
correct.
I
B
C
B
B
D
C
C
Of
the
Planning
Commission
to
review
that
information,
but
it
is
there
available
for
the
public,
so
the
public
is
aware
of
who
the
applicants
are.
This
is
an
outcome
of
the
recent
adoption
of
the
Public
Integrity
ordinance
by
the
City
Council,
based
on
the
recommendations
of
the
subcommittee
relative
to.
F
So
if
you
look
on
the
first
exhibit
that
is
600
and
650
East
tahquitz
canyon
way,
the
building
on
the
right,
which
is
the
650
building
the
hatching
there
is
the
coffee
tenant.
So
that's
an
established
lease
I
believe
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
the
entire
building
on
600
is
leased
fully
or
not,
but
I'll
let
the
app
can
clarify
specifically
what
the
other
hatchings
are.
Okay,.
A
A
F
A
D
A
And
the
other
question
is
the
reason
we're
doing
this
is
where
these
would
be
normal
uses,
permitted
downtown,
say
or
in
other
commercial
districts.
These
are
uses
that,
because
it's
section
14,
they
would
generally
come
in
as
separate
C
appease
but
impede
the
leasing
in
at
least
the
applicants
opinion
impeded
the
leasing
of
a
building.
That's.
C
Correct
that
the
general
personal
service
use
office
uses
are
permitted
by
right
in
our
commercial
zoning
districts.
The
section
14
plan
is
somewhat
unique
in
that
it
does
require
those
to
obtain
a
conditional
use
permit,
as
the
applicant
has
testified,
that
has
been
an
impediment
to
leasing
the
remaining
space
here
at
capture
Plaza
an.
A
J
Okay,
well
I'm
Scott,
Timberlake
and
I'm,
the
owner
of
the
building
and
I.
Think
all
of
you
know
well
the
history
of
Kaptur
Plaza
and
the
challenges
I
faced.
Flynn
and
David
have
been
absolutely
amazing,
working
with
me
and
coming
up
with
this
option
of
a
blanket
use
permit,
but
it
really
didn't
start
from
me.
It
came
with
the
tenant,
so
a
lot
of
these
uses
are
already
approved.
Like
you
said,
eighteen
eight
did
their
conditional
use
permit
coffee
did
their
conditional
use,
permit.
There's
two
offices
and
historically
there's
already
been
doctor's
offices.
J
They
are
all
sorts
of
Health.
Services
attorneys,
really
the
only
unusual
to
our
coffee,
which,
because
I
hadn't
been
a
food
service
and
now
the
wine
lounge,
which
is
kind
of
like
a
supper
club
in
it
I
think
it's
really
gonna,
be
an
amazing
asset
to
the
building.
I've
had
several
restaurants
approached
me
and
when
I
say
several
I
mean
lots,
I've
refused
them.
I've
refused
grease
traps,
I
don't
want
it
to
be
a
cooking
facility.
I
don't
want
things
outside,
so
I've
really
tried
hard
to
put
together
a
good
mix
of
tenants.
J
That
said,
Palm
Springs
us
not
a
big
tenant
community.
We're
made
up
of
a
lot
of
small
businesses
and
a
lot
of
small
operators
and
I
have
an
executive
suite
business
already
downtown
Palm
Springs
and
in
Oregon
that
hosts
about
50
50
to
60
individual
test
tenants.
So
what
happened
here
is
one
of
the
we
made
all
the
space
behind
coffee
and
permitted
it
as
executive
suites.
So
we
started
signing
up
people
typically
they're
psychologists,
therapists
that
use
this
type
of
space
and
the
massage
person
came
in
and
I'm
very
conscious,
not
like.
J
If
I
take
in
one
massage
person,
I'm,
not
gonna,
let
it
in
another.
So
I'm
not
gonna,
create
that
competition,
but
he
was
so
excited
because
he'd
been
basically
working
out
of
his
house
and
no
license
and
he
came
down
to
get
his
business
license
and
very
excited
and
they
said,
go
to
planning
and
they
said
that'll
be
$7,000
and
as
he's
renting
120
square
feet
and
the
number
you
could
divide
the
7,000
by
the
number
of
massages
it
would
take,
and
so
one
really
good
one
yeah
so
I
know.
J
And
then
the
same
thing
happened
with
the
acupuncturist.
He
says:
I
can't
open
here.
I
have
you
know
I
can't
pay
the
seven
thousand.
So
that's
when
I
talked
to
Flynn
and
we
came
up.
I'll
pay,
the
seven
thousand.
Let's
do
a
blanket
so
that
these
tenants
that
are
supporting
our
community
and
can
only
afford
small
spaces
aren't
hit
with
this
high
cost.
Every
time
so
really
was
tenant
related.
It's
something
and
I
hadn't
thought
of,
but
I'd
really
appreciate
your
consideration
on
it.
A
A
H
I'm
being
very
encouraged,
how
beautifully
kept
their
plazas
turned
out?
The
mix
of
tenant
space
so
far
is
incredible.
As
long
as
the
staff
and
mr.
fagin
assure
us
that
a
blanket
CU
p
permit
is
under
the
ordinance
lawful,
because
it's
the
first
time
I've
seen
one
I
think
it's
an
innovative
creative
way
to
help
the
applicant
fill
the
rest
of
the
space
so
I'm
very
much
in
favor
of
it
and
I
have
no
questions.
I
A
L
One
were
to
read
the
dollars
and
cents
of
shopping
centers.
A
couple
things
apply,
one
is
design
can
sell,
you
can
get
higher
rents
with
good
design
and
we,
hopefully
that
is
the
case
in
this
situation.
The
other
thing
is
I
really
want
to
commend
the
property
owner
for
the
mix
of
uses
you
have
both
daytime
uses
and
eating
uses
and
you've
activated
it.
It's
not
just
a
dead
medical
center.
L
A
C
We
could
do
is
establish
generalized
hours
for
the
general
personal
service
and
office
uses
if
it
would
be
desired
on
the
part
of
the
Planning
Commission.
As
part
of
this
approval,
what
I,
probably
recommend
is
that
we
allow
the
office
in
general
personal
service
until
9
p.m.
and
I'm
looking
at
the
applicant
to
see
if
that
would
be
adequate,
or
does
it
need
to
be
later
than
that
10:00
p.m.
C
A
F
A
F
H
L
A
Okay,
we
are
on
item
2
C.
This
is
new
to
the
Planning
Commission.
It's
a
request
by
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
for
modification
or
revocation
of
a
land
use
permit
for
an
estate,
home
vacation
rental
property
at
953,
North,
Avenida
Palmas
and
a
staff
report.
Please,
and
the
city's
the
applicant
in
this
instance
aren't
they
that.
C
An
estate
house
is
defined
as
any
vacation
rental
that
has
five
or
more
bedrooms,
and
so,
with
the
approval
of
those
amendments,
we
began
to
issue
land
use
permits
for
all
vacation
rental
estate
homes.
In
the
zoning
code
relative
to
the
land
use
permits
for
the
estate
homes,
it
does
say
upon
three
qualified
violations
of
the
vacation
rental
ordinance
that
the
land
use
permit
can
be
brought
before
the
Planning
Commission
to
either
consider
modifications
or
revocation
of
that
land
use
permit.
In
reference
to
this
specific
property,
there
have
been
three
qualified
violations.
C
They
were
as
follows:
on
September,
the
23rd
of
2017
there
was
a
citation
issued
for
outdoor
amplified
sound
on
March
9th
of
2018.
There
was
a
citation
issued
for
not
displaying
their
vacation
rental
certificate
number
on
their
advertising
and,
more
specifically
on
a
website,
advertising
the
vacation
rental
and
then
on
May,
the
26th
of
2018.
They
received
a
third
citation.
This
one
was
also
for
amplified
outdoor
music.
So
with
those
three
citations
that
were
issued,
only
one
of
those
was
appealed.
C
It
went
to
a
hearing
and
the
citation
was
upheld,
and
so
again
there
are
three
qualified
citations
as
we
define
in
our
code
with
those
citations.
It
is
upon
the
city
to
bring
the
item
before
the
Planning
Commission,
to
consider
whether
to
either
modify
the
conditions
of
the
land
use
permit
or
to
revoke
the
land
use
permit
in
terms
of
staff's
recommendation,
because
two
of
the
citations
were
based
on
outdoor
amplified,
music
and
the
fact
that
there
is
a
complete
prohibition
in
the
vacation
rental
ordinance
against
outdoor
amplified
sound.
C
There
are
no
further
conditions
that
we
could
place
on
this,
and
so
based
on
that,
and
also
based
on
the
fact
that
outdoor
amplified
sound
does
pose
an
impact
to
residential
neighborhoods
staff
is
recommending
the
revocation
of
this
land
use
permit.
In
the
associated
resolution
that
you
have
in
your
packet,
we
are
recommending
that
the
land
use
permit
be
revoked
and
that
the
property
owner
would
not
be
able
to
apply
for
a
new
land
use
permit
until
2020.
So
for
two
years
they
would
not
be
able
to
apply
for
a
new
land
use.
Permit.
C
Planning
Commission
does
have
the
option
of
modifying
the
land
use
permit.
If
you
feel
there
are
conditions
that
could
be
imposed
to
address
the
specific
citations
that
have
been
issued.
Thus
far.
But
again,
it's
our
recommendation
to
revoke
in
terms
of
the
public
hearing
notice
that
we
have
sent
out.
I
have
received
only
one
response
to
that.
C
Given
you
the
list
of
when
those
have
occurred
and
how
many
there
have
been,
and
also
please
note
that
there
have
not
been
any
event
house
permits
issued
during
2018,
so
we
just
have
the
last
prior
to
year's
2016
2017,
but
none
in
2018.
Your
action
today
does
not
restrict
their
ability
to
do
event.
House
permits,
however,
under
the
language
and
the
municipal
code
about
event
houses.
If
it
is
found
that
there
are
impacts
from
the
use,
the
city
manager
may
either
modify
any
future
event.
House
permits
or
may
deny
future
event
house
permits.
C
So
again,
what
we
will
do
is
based
on
your
action.
Today
we
will
refer
those
that
action
to
the
city
manager
to
look
at
in
case
of
any
future
event
house
permits.
That
concludes
my
staff
report.
I
do
have
mr.
Boris
stark
here,
who
is
the
director
of
vacation
rental
compliance?
He
can
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have
specifically
about
the
vacation,
rental
ordinance
and
how
this
may
apply.
He
may
also
speak
to
the
any
questions
you
might
have
on
the
citations
that
have
been
issued
and
with
that.
That
concludes
my
staff
report.
C
A
H
Respect
to
the
remedy
you're
suggesting
a
two-year
suspension
on
the
license.
What
are
our
options
with
respect
to
remedies?
Are
the
remedy
options
open?
Could,
for
example,
could
we
revoke
the
suspend
the
license
for
the
entire
ownership
of
the
property
by
the
current
property
owners?
Well,
that
for
what.
C
Would
happen,
is
you
have
the
ability
to
either
modify
or
revoke
the
land
use
permit
and
that's
the
extent
of
the
power
that
has
been
granted
to
you
by
the
zoning
code
as
an
Associated
action.
The
vacation,
rental,
compliance
officer
or
director
would
then
take
the
vacation
rental
certificate
to
the
City
Council
to
revoke
that
as
well.
You
can't
operate
in
a
state
home
without
both
the
vacation
rental
certificate
and
the
land
use
permit.
C
G
You,
madam
chair,
the
vacation
rental
ordinance,
stipulates
that
if
a
vacation
rental
property
is
specifically
in
this
instance,
if
it
receives
three
citations
in
a
24
month
period
that
the
vacation,
rental
permit
and
land
use
permit
be
suspended
for
two
years,
it
doesn't
say
that,
yes,
it
does.
Thank
you.
G
Regarding
the
land
use
permit,
as
the
planning
director
stated,
it's
either
modification
or
a
vocation
on
your
part
in
regards
to
the
vacation
rental
certificate.
Based
on
your
actions.
Today
we
will
go
and
we
will
proceed
with
suspending
the
vacation
rental
certificate
as
well,
depending
again
on
your
actions
today.
So.
D
C
C
H
H
L
L
L
This
one
is
only
coming
for
us
because
it's
a
land
use
permit.
Other
visit
go
before
the
Appeals
Board
and
the
appeals
board
has
suspended
seventeen
already
for
similar
violations.
That
is
correct.
The
other
question
that
I
have
is
that
many
times
when
an
event
occurs,
they
may
rent
the
rooms,
so
you
know
the
event
can
occur.
You
can
have
a
wedding,
but
they
also
may
rent
five
rooms
so
that
the
event
permit
overlaps
with
the
our
land
use
permit
and/or
the
vacation
rental
permit.
C
B
G
C
Prevent
that,
commissioner,
her
spine,
let
me
offer
further
explanation:
it's
essentially
for
any
home
that
has
five
bedrooms
or
more
it's
a
two-step
process
that
they
have
to
obtain
their
land
use,
permit,
which
is
under
the
zoning
code,
and
then
they
have
to
obtain
their
vacation
rental
certificate
under
Chapter
five
of
the
Municipal
Code.
If
you
have
four
bedrooms
or
less,
you
only
have
to
get
the
one.
B
B
C
B
C
Municipal
code
states
that
the
Planning
Commission
has
the
option
after
three
qualified
violations
of
either
modifying
or
revoking,
and
so
even
with
three
violations.
You
are
hearing
this
in
a
public
hearing
today
and
you're,
making
a
determination
whether
it
should
be
modified
or
revoked,
and
so
based
on
your
termination.
They
could
continue
with
the
vacation
rental
if
you
choose
to
modify
rather
than
revoke.
Okay,.
C
That's
the
language
specifically
in
our
zoning
ordinance.
What
it
means
is
that
it
can't
just
be
a
neighbor
calls
and
says
it's
too
noisy
over
there.
Qualified
violation
means
that
we
have
sent
someone
to
the
site,
they've
verified
that
the
violation
has
occurred
and
a
citation
has
been
issued
accordingly.
B
G
A
C
L
A
G
D
C
A
M
It
was
Andrew
Magee
land
I'm,
the
Regional,
Operations
Manager
for
Beaumont
villas
by
natural
retreats,
and
we
manage
the
home
and
are
here
representing
the
homeowner
for
the
home.
We
call
it
the
sand
acre
estate,
and
this
is
Williams
saying
he's
the
general
manager
of
our
business
there.
The
owner
couldn't
make
it
today,
so
we
wanted
to
come
in
and
speak
on
his
behalf.
M
So
we
have
a
lot
of
the
same
questions
that
you
had
and
you
cleared
a
lot
of
that
up
in
regards
to
the
land
use
permit
versus
the
vacation
rental
side
of
things.
I
think
one
thing
that
we
really
wanted
to
note
was
that
none
of
these
have
occurred
during
any
events.
We
used
to
use
the
home
very
frequently
for
weddings
and
parties,
and
things
like
that.
Once
the
noise
ordinance
was
passed,
you
know
the
vacation
rental
things
would
became
worse.
M
Strict,
we
you'll
see,
have
not
applied
for
any
events
they're
in
2018,
trying
to
be
very
respectful
to
the
neighbors
and
be
a
good
partner
in
the
community
in
terms
of
respecting
the
noise
and
the
quality
of
life
of
the
neighbors
around.
We
are
concerned
from
the
owners
perspective.
You
know
that
they
could
potentially
lose
the
land
use
permit
on
the
home
for
two
years,
the
the
some
of
the
sound
you
know,
violations
we
haven't
appealed
them
because
they
are
clear.
M
You
know
they
are
clear
violations,
but
I
think
you'll
note
that
one
of
them
was
at
two
o'clock
in
the
afternoon
before
the
guests
had
even
unpacked
or
you
know
it
wasn't
like.
There
was
a
loud
party.
They
were
just
turning
on
music,
while
they
were
checking
in
we've
adjusted
our
check-in
policies
from
the
vacation.
You
know
from
the
management
side
from
the
company
side
of
things
in
terms
of
you
know,
when
we
check
people
in
we're
very
clear
about
the
noise,
we
do
it
in
person.
I
Madam
Sharon,
honorable
commissioners,
as
Mike
I'm,
William
se
general
manager,
as
Andrew
stated
yes
in
reviewing
the
citations.
One
of
them
did
occur
on
a
Saturday
at
2:00
p.m.
when
the
guest
was
checking
into
the
property
and
unloading
they
had
some
music
going
while
they
were
taking
the
groceries
out
of
the
car
and
putting
them
in
the
house.
A
second
violation
was
for
the
permit
number
not
being
on
a
marketing
partner
website
which
we
have
since
rectified.
I
The
third
violation
was
over
a
holiday
weekend
again
during
daylight
hours,
although
a
little
bit
later
in
the
day,
understandably,
certainly
before
sunset.
So
also
as
mentioned,
these
events
occurred.
These
three
citations
occurred
during
occupancy,
and
you
know
two
of
the
three
hiring
occupancy
and
then
the
third
was
a
clerical
error.
None
of
these
were
associated
with
events
that
we
had
at
the
home.
I
Our
company
has
been
in
existence
for
over
12
years
and
basically,
we've
always
abided
by
and
worked
very
closely
with
the
city
in
our
contracts
with
the
guests
to
make
sure
that
we
abide
by
all
the
ordinances
and
continue
to
do
so.
We
are
a
very
high-touch
agency
in
town
and
always
have
been.
We
mean
in
greet
guests
at
the
home.
I
We
have
them,
fill
out
the
form,
as
required
by
the
city
and
keep
track
of
that,
and
you
know,
submit
all
the
contract
summaries
and
all
that,
and
so
we
are
trying
to
work
our
business
in
conjunction
with
the
city
to
protect
the
neighbors
and
continue
to
keep
the
city
a
viable
option
for
people
looking
to
vacation.
I.
Beseech
you
to
please
consider
this
very
carefully,
because
this
is
a
landmark
very
important
thing.
That's
happening
here
today.
I
We
were
very
confused
about
it
and,
quite
frankly,
still
are
a
little
bit
confused
about
the
the
ramifications
of
this,
because
it
does
crossover
between
both
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
short
term.
Vacation
rental
aspect
of
properties
moving
forward
in
Palm
Springs,
and
this
home
in
particular,
is
one
of
the
homes
that
a
homeowner
might
not
be
able
to
afford.
I
If
he
didn't
have
the
rental
income
and
because
he
does
have
the
rental
income,
he's
he's
enabled
to
reinvest
that
money
in
the
home
and
keep
the
upkeep
of
the
home
and
make
improvements
to
the
home.
It's
in
a
very
prestigious
movie,
colony,
neighborhood,
it's
a
very
prestigious
landmark
home
and
we
want
to
keep
it
in
very
good
operating
condition.
You
know
there
were
many
times
as
mentioned
previously,
that
the
city
was
called
out.
I
I
Unfortunately,
sometimes
it
takes
a
couple
of
hours
now,
since
this
last
I
heard
only
five
people
on
the
city
who
can
even
write
out
a
citation
by
visiting
in
a
home,
and
so
we've
installed
noise
aware
devices
as
a
proactive
measure
so
that
we
can
get
an
alert
on
our
text
on
our
cell
phone.
So
we
can
reach
out
to
the
guests
and
tell
them
to
quiet
down
in
a
house
before
they
upset
the
neighbors.
I
You
know,
we've
always
tried
to
have
peaceful
coexistence
in
our
rental
homes,
and
we
have
a
very
good
track
record
of
that.
Unfortunately,
it's
it's
more
challenging
these
days
and
you
know
we're
trying
to
do
our
best
to
keep
up
with
what
the
ordinances
are
and
and
inform
our
guests
of
that
as
much
as
possible
to
try
and
keep
things
to
a
minimum
as
far
as
being
disruptive
so
I.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
Thank.
N
I've
never
experienced
any
trouble
with
any
of
the
events
or
any
of
the
short-term
guests,
or
at
least
the
last
eight
or
nine
years
folks
have
said
this
is
a
very
prestigious
property.
We
know
it
as
the
louie
be
Mayer
estate.
It's
also
known
as
the
Marilyn
Monroe
house.
It's
quite
an
unusual
property.
We've
had
the
opportunity
to
attend
a
couple
of
a
corporate
events
and
supply
some
vintage
vehicles,
as
decoration
have
had
opportunities
to
go
throughout
the
property
throughout
the
house.
It's
extremely
well
maintained.
We
have
no
complaints.
N
A
Are
there
any
other
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
speak
the
applicant?
Has
the
management
company
has
3
minutes
for
rebuttal?
If
you
wish
to
take
it,
if
you're
still
here
and
you
would
come
up,
there
is
one
question
for
you
we'd
like
to
do
that.
Oh
there,
if
you'd
like
to
speak,
please
come
forward.
N
Franksen,
my
name
is
Frank
Sandeen
and
I
live
near
to
the
property
being
discussed.
Yeah
and
I
just
want
to
reiterate
what
the
gentleman
ahead
of
me
said.
It
seems
to
me,
like
the
technical
error
of
not
as
showing
the
license
on
their
website,
should
be
a
different
thing,
as
opposed
to
the
two
violations
that
were
made
regarding
noise.
It's
and
it
seems
to
me
that
the
that
the
worst
the
council
should
consider
that
there
are
two
violations
that
would
affect
the
neighbors.
N
A
D
I
I
M
I
That's
the
procedure:
it
brings
us
back
to
the
place
where
we
used
to
be
years
ago,
where
we
would
get
the
phone
call
first
before
when
the
noise
complaint
hotline
received
a
call
and
they
would
call
the
agency
first
for
the
emergency
contact
number
and
one
of
our
staff
will
go
to
the
house.
So
we've
got
the
advance
notification.
I
I
D
M
D
I
noticed
one
of
the
noise
complaints
that
the
decibel
level
was
I,
think
roughly
forty
nine
decibels
at
7
p.m.
and
normally
49
disables,
as
would
not
be
considered
a
nuisance
in
a
lot
of
ways.
But
I
guess
our
ordinance
says
if
you
can
hear
it
outside
at
the
property
line.
Isn't
it
that
the
what
trigger
is
it
or
any
amplified
noise?
The.
D
A
A
L
There's
no
doubt
that
this
is
a
beautiful
estate.
It's
quintessential
iconic
Palm
Springs
and
it's
got
a
grand
entrance
to
it
and
it's
wonderful.
If
you
can
afford
it,
you
can
participate
in
such
a
grand
estate.
However,
I
am
in
support
of
staff
on
this
and
we
went
through
a
very
difficult,
contentious,
expensive
election
process
on
how
to
regulate
vacation
rentals.
We
established
a
multi-million
dollar
Department
on
how
to
regulate
vacation
rentals
and
it
was
very
clear.
The
three
violations
equals
replication
or
potential.
L
L
I
see
it
as
quite
being
quite
black-and-white
on
this
there's
really
not
a
huge
gray
area
to
participate
in
the
fortunate
thing
for
the
property
owner
and
for
the
rental
agency
is
it
can
still
be
produced
as
a
high
income
producing
event
house.
This
does
not
limit
it
to
be
produced
to
be.
The
staff
recommendation
does
not
eliminate
the
event
house
opportunity
for
this.
It
only
eliminates
if,
if
the
staff
recommendation
is
approved,
it
only
eliminates
the
ability
for
people
to
spend
the
night
in
the
house
on
this.
I
Unfortunate
that
the
Planning
Commission
has
to
evaluate
these
sorts
of
things
and
that's
obviously
what
the
Appeals
Board
is
for.
They
know
the
questions
to
ask.
They
know
the
law.
Nonetheless,
I
have
to
agree
with
Commissioner
woods.
I
mean
I,
don't
feel
that
the
three
violations
should
be
appealed.
I
believe
that
they
are
appropriate
and
revocation.
B
Yeah
I
was
originally
very
strongly
against
the
Commission
taking
on
this
responsibility,
as
some
of
you
that
we're
here
remember,
I
still
feel
that
it's
not
our
area
of
expertise,
unfortunately,
and
I
still
don't
understand.
If
we
let
it
if
we
don't
revoke
the
land
use,
if,
if
the
vacation
rental
group
is
required
to
revoke
it,
so
what
would
be
the
point
of
us
acting
anyway,
so
I'm
mixed
up,
to
say
the
least
on
this
kind
of
a
bureaucratic
mix-up
on
in
my
head
on
this.
H
I
think
mr.
wood
stated
it
very
succinctly
and
appropriately
I
think
strict
compliance
to
this
ordinance
is
important
to
the
people
Palm
Springs.
This
is
a
very
controversial
issue.
Many
people
are
very
very
concerned
about
their
their
peace
and
quiet
and
being
able
to
enjoy
their
neighborhoods.
There
are
three
violations
here:
I
think
an
administrative
violation
is
no
less
important
than
a
actual
violation.
They're
equally
important,
in
my
view,
so
I
think
there
are
three
violations.
I
would
support
the
staff
report
as
well.
D
Not
sure
we
have
any
discretion
here.
Unfortunately,
it
looks
as
though
we've
got
to
follow
the
essentially
have
to
follow
the
ordinance
in
here.
If
we
didn't
follow
it,
then
the
appeal
sport,
but
the
the
vacation
rental
policy
would
take
away
the
vacation
permit
so
I'm
gonna
vote
for
the
staff
report,
I'm,
not
sure
if
I
agree
with
the
way
the
ordinance
is
worded
or
is,
is
being
implemented
here.
But
that's
not
my
job
at
the
moment
and
so
I
support
the
staff
report.
I.
A
A
A
D
A
A
So,
staff,
sorry,
this
is
the
request
by
Dan
Spencer,
on
the
behalf
of
James
bourbon
and
Robert
Hayes,
for
a
major
architectural
review
approval
for
the
construction
of
a
1238
square
foot
addition
to
an
existing
hillside,
single-family
residence
at
282,
West,
Camino,
Carmelita
staff
report.
Please
thank.
M
The
project
site
is
located
within
the
mess
and
neighborhood,
and
this
property
was
originally
built
in
1937
and
it's
a
classy
and
historic
site.
The
property
has
a
spanish-style
architecture.
It's
a
single
family
building
with
a
detached,
carport
and
attached
garage,
and
the
project
site
consists
of
three
per
cells
which
are
held
as
one
person
under
a
covenant.
M
As
you
may
recall,
the
applicant
is
in
the
process
of
right
away
vacation
on
this
on
this
image.
I
think
you
can
see
the
purple
section.
This
is
a
currently
at
Camino
Del
Monte,
right
away,
which
is
going
to
be
vacated
and
once
the
vacation
is
completed,
the
property
will
gain
three
thousand
nine
hundred
eighty
five
square
feet
of
a
space.
M
M
M
Staff
finds
that
the
proposed
project
is
compatible
in
design
and
material
amassing
to
the
existing
primary
residence.
The
site
is
adequate
in
size
to
accommodate
the
proposed
additions
and
it
will
not
alter
the
single-family
residential
appearance
of
the
property
and
the
project
complies
with
applicable
development
standards
and
for
the
reason
recommend
approval
to
the
Planning
Commission
staff
and
up
you
can
avoid
available
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have,
and
this
concludes
the
presentation.
Thank
you
are.
A
There
any
questions
of
staff
there
be
I
have
one
and
it's
just
that
this
is
a
historically
significant,
but
not
a
National
Register
property.
The
additions
on
it
are
identical
to
the
existing
facade
of
the
building,
and
the
reason
that's
being
done
is
because
they're
separated
from
the
building
is
that
correct
that
it's
generally
additions
on
historic
properties
indicate
that
there
are
additions.
A
C
Referring
to
the
Secretary
of
the
Interior
standards
relative
to
historic
properties
and
you're
correct
when
there
is
an
addition
to
a
structure
that
has
been
deemed
to
be
historically
significant,
it's
preferred
that
the
addition
be
visible
and
detectable
is
being
separate
from
the
original
structure
in
this
case,
because
the
additions
are
not
directly
attached
to
the
exterior
walls
of
the
original
house,
they're
separated
by
breezeways,
they
are
separate
and
distinct,
and
so
staff
felt
that
this
is
appropriate
and
we
have
recommended
approval
of
this
request.
This.
A
A
C
D
My
only
comment
is
this
looks
really
good
and
I'm
gonna
congratulate
the
team
that
that
has
worked
on
it.
It
really
looks
like
you've
kept
the
character
of
the
house
while
really
improving
it,
particularly
you
know.
Every
modern
house
has
got
to
have
a
garage
these
days,
so
that
became
a
requirement,
but
it
really
looks
like
good
and
the
addition
of
the
gym
and
the
pool
house
will
be
really
improved.
This
significant
property.
A
Any
other
comments
can
I
get
a
motion
from
somebody.
H
A
A
This
is
the
next
item
is
also
is
a
public
hearing
item.
It
is
two
d:
it
is
Toll
Brothers
on
behalf
of
Palm
Canyon
65
LLC
for
a
time
extension
of
the
entitlements
to
construct
and
subdivide
a
residential
development
consisting
of
57
detached
single-family
residences,
25,
multifamily,
residential
condominiums,
open
space
and
private
streets.
On
a
twelve
point,
three
acre
parcel
of
land
located
at
7-7,
7
South,
Palm,
Canyon
Drive
staff
report.
Please,
yes,.
F
Chairman
and
commissioners,
the
request
before
you
is
an
extension
of
time
for
a
previously
approved
residential
project.
Over
a
twelve
point,
three
acre
site,
the
site
was
previously
developed
with
the
rock
garden
calf,
okay,
rock
garden
cafe,
which
has
since
been
removed,
and
all
that
remains
is
the
parking
area
of
that
site.
It
also
is
part.
It
also
includes
the
land
to
the
south
and
west
of
the
former
rock
garden
cafe.
F
F
Since
that
time
there
was
a
lawsuit
that
was
settled
which
delayed
the
ultimate
approval
date
to
January
19th
of
2017.
So
the
two-year
timeframe
by
which
the
napkin
is
to
exercise
entitlement
would
expire
or
is
limited
to
January
19th
of
2019.
So
the
request
today
is
for
an
additional
one
year
from
that
date.
F
It
there's
quite
a
significant
slope
and
the
Wesley
edge
of
bull
art
on
the
westerly
edge
of
the
site
adjacent
to
Bilardo.
So,
as
you
can
see
in
this,
exhibit
that
was
prepared
by
Toll
Brothers
engineer
there.
It
shows
that
they
would
require
you'll
see
is
the
blue
some
retaining
areas
that
are
four
to
eight
feet,
retaining
walls
that
are
four
to
eight
feet
in
height,
primarily
along
the
westerly
edge
of
the
site.
F
So,
in
order
to
avoid
some
of
the
retaining
along
the
rest
early
edge,
where
you
have
the
houses,
probably
the
top
of
the
house
is
closer
towards
the
street
grades.
They're
looking
at
changing
some
of
the
pads
along
that
edge
of
the
project,
reconfiguring
the
location
of
the
pool
area
and
the
dog
park
area,
with
respect
to
the
location
of
a
lot
15
on
this
plan,.
F
So
what
you
see
here
is
the
plan,
the
layout
that
was
approved
by
council
with
the
per
sales
between
the
rear
of
the
Lots
in
the
center
of
the
project
and
the
common
area
pool
area.
The
common
area
pool
lot
in
this
location.
So
the
retaining
walls
that
in
blue
here
that
you
see,
are
range
from
four
to
eight
feet
in
height
the
green
range
from
two
to
four
feet
and
the
red
is
roughly
one
to
two
feet.
So
there's
quite
a
significant
slope
adjacent
to
lardo
here.
F
So
that's
why
the
retaining
walls
would
be
as
high
as
they
are
in
this
area,
so
the
stepping
of
the
pads
would
be
more
terrorist
in
their
current
configuration.
The
applicant
is
essentially
trying
to
reduce
the
amount
of
Terror
seen
down
from
the
north
to
south
and
have
more
of
the
retaining
along
this
edge
with
their
their
current
plans
and,
of
course,
any
plan
that
any
changes
that
were
different
from
the
plan
that
was
previously
approved
would
come
back
before
the.
F
F
F
F
G
F
Afghan
is
proposing
to
eliminate
those
and
provide
pedestrian
sidewalks
on
one
side
of
the
street
for
the
for
the
private
streets.
So
all
streets
would
have
a
sidewalk
along
the
frontage,
at
least
one
side
for
the
interior
streets.
So
those
are
the
some
of
the
things
that
they're
kind
of
investigating
as
I
mentioned.
A
lot
15
in
the
original
plan
here
is
being
relocated
at
this
time
to
this
location
or
there
that's
something
that
they
are.
F
There
are
exploiting
alternatives
for
the
regional
storm
drain
line
locations,
because
there
are
some
large
storm
drain
lines
that
entrance
that
the
site
along
the
westerly
edge.
So
they
are
looking
at
some
additional
ways
to
address
those
issues.
They
are
proposing
pavers
in
the
landscape
areas
along
Palm
Canyon
and
in
the
emergency
access
driveway,
as
well
as
the
sidewalk
areas.
So
that
would
be
an
enhancement
for
the
pedestrian
experience
and
it
would
also
increase
the
single
family
lots
to
be
more
usable
for
the
outdoor
space.
F
So
those
are
some
of
the
changes
that
they
are
considering
when
we
look
at
the
findings
required
for
an
extension
of
time
and
the
zoning
code,
there
is
a
question
as
to
whether
there
have
been
any
changes
to
the
project,
so
that
is
why
we,
we
did
identify
these
as
potential
changes
to
the
project
based
on
the
direction
that
the
the
African
is
based
on
the
direction
happen
has
given
us
in
their
negotiations
with
the
current
property
owner.
So
staff
has
provided
findings
in
support
of
the
extension
of
time.
F
Your
action
today
would
be
to
recommend
approval
of
the
tentative
map
to
the
City
Council
and
approve
the
plan,
development
and
major
architectural
applications
as
a
part
of
the
draft
resolution
attached
to
your
report.
The
only
other
thing
I
would
like
to
note
is
that
supplemental
materials
that
were
given
to
you
today
include
fire
department
condition
revisions.
So
those
are
part
of
your
additional
materials,
and
the
things
that
are
highlighted
are
the
changes
from
the
previous
conditions
that
were
presented
to
the
council
back
in
2016.
F
A
F
A
A
H
I
would
like
to
ask
our
attorney
one
of
our
findings
and
mr.
Newell
alluded
to
this.
We
have
to
find
in
order
to
extend
the
PDD.
There
have
been
no
significant
changes
to
the
post
project,
as
mr.
Newell
explained,
it
sounds
like
they're
going
to
be
coming
for
significant
changes
to
the
project,
not
just
based
on
the
lawsuit
but
general
changes
in
the
overall
layout
of
the
plan.
Are
we
within
the
law
to
make
this
finding,
knowing
that
they're
going
to
be
such
significant
changes
to
the
plan.
G
Thank
You,
commissioner.
Yes,
you
are
correct.
That
is
a
required
finding.
In
order
to
approve
the
extension,
the
Commission
will
have
to
make
its
own
judgment
whether
it
believes
that
the
project
is
having
no
significant
changes
or
not.
Based
on
the
evidence
provided
I
know
staff
is
you
know
indicating
that
you
know
there
are
some
changes
proposed,
but
their
position
is
that
they
are
a
minor
if
the
Commission
believes
that
they
are
not
minor,
the
Commission
can
make
the
opposite.
Finding
is.
C
You,
madam
chair,
if
I,
might
just
go
into
why
the
staff
found
the
way
that
they
did
is
the
number
of
units
remains
the
same.
The
same
general
configuration
of
the
property
is
not
changing.
We
find
it
to
be
generally
consistent
with
the
conditions
of
approval
that
City
Council
has
applied
to
the
project
it
so.
Consequently,
that's
the
basis
of
our
findings
is
that
it
is
not
significantly
different
than
what
was
approved.
F
D
G
D
We'll
be
seeing
the
design
changes
as
a
separate
action
and
we'll
have
to
at
that
time
find
that
the
final
map
is
consistent.
Well,
it
consistent
mostly
with
the
preliminary
map
right.
So
that's
that's
how
the
process
would
work.
Okay,
thank
you.
Oh
I
had
a
couple
other
questions.
I
may
ask:
do
we
have
a
copy
of
the
settlement
if
the
lawsuit
I've,
never
I,
didn't
even
realize
this
had
been
settled
and
I
think
it
would
be
relevant
to
get
a
copy.
G
Yes,
mr.
Callum
I
can
speak
to
that.
My
understanding
is
that
the
settlement
agreement
between
the
parties
was
confidential
now
I
understand
just
got
some
recent
information
that
may
be
a
separate
settlement
agreement
that
you
know
I
haven't
heard
of
until
now
where
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
is
a
party
that
one
may
not
be
confidential,
but
I
don't
have
a
copy
of
that.
I
can't
speak
to.
That
was.
G
A
G
G
B
Yeah
one
of
my
questions
is
what
were
the
lawsuit
conditions,
but
I
guess
we're.
We
don't
have
that
information
currently
they're
there
they're
asking
for
an
extension
for
the
tentative
tract
map,
the
preliminary
PDD
and
one
other
doc.
One
other
extension
is
that
right
was
there
three
extensions
they're
asking
for
so.
B
F
F
F
Your
action
today
on
all
three
items
you
will.
Your
action
is
approve.
The
recommended
action
has
approved
the
plan,
development
and
extension
and
major
architectural
extent,
and
recommend
council
approve
the
tentative
tract
map.
If
the
Commission
chooses
to
deny
any
of
those,
then
that
would
be
found
decision
and
less
appealed,
but.
B
G
A
G
C
A
B
I
know
one
of
them
was
we
had
a
little
public
plaza
up
at
the
north
east
corner
of
the
site.
I
think
that
got
eliminated.
I
was
also
interested,
so
the
public
benefit
was
the
project
itself
and
the
Paseos
and
did
a
did.
A
code
get
changed
that
disallows
the
project
itself
as
a
public
benefit
currently
you're.
F
B
F
F
B
A
F
F
Yeah,
it's
a
12
foot
buffer.
You
see
it
it's
in
an
8
and
a
half
by
11
size
sheet.
It's
in
the
front
of
the
color
exhibits
are
actually
behind
the
landscape
exhibit,
but
it's
a
12
foot
buffer
that
was
ultimately
approved
by
the
Council
and
they
one
of
the
things
that
did
change
as
well.
Was
they
eliminated
one
of
the
single-family
homes
as
a
part
of
the
revision
to
the
project
at
the
northwest
corner
and
created
it
a
park
space.
B
F
A
We're
not
trying
to
change
the
switch,
we
are
trying
to
determine
what
the
existing
plan
is,
and
so
that's
that's.
The
hard
part
I
think
questions
going
to
what
the
existing
plan
is.
We're
extending
are
appropriate
and
when
we
get
into
comments,
we
can
talk
both
about
the
extension
and
the
proposals
the
applicants
making,
but
just
I.
F
Yeah,
ultimately,
the
City
Council
approved
what
you
have
in
your
packet.
The
eight
and
a
half
by
11
sheets
are
what
the
council
approved
so
57
residential
lots,
25
condominium
properties,
a
12-foot
buffer
along
the
northerly
edge.
The
trail
is
outside
of
the
property
and
would
be
required
to
be
improved
by
the
applicant.
F
F
B
F
F
B
So
another
issue
that
was
before
us
when
we
were
approving
this
was
the
view
from
Bilardo
and
one
of
the
reasons
I
know
an
AAC.
We
we
looked
at
this
very
carefully.
Was
that
because
the
lots
were
blobel
below
Bilardo,
it
seemed
that
the
view
was
less
impactful
impacted,
and
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
that
I
think
some
people
voted
to
approve
the
project,
and
now
it
sounds
like
they
want
to
raise
the
pad
up,
which
would
which
would
be
more
of
an
impact
to
the
view
from
Bilardo.
Is
that
correct.
B
L
H
F
Were
not
defined
at
the
time
it
was
just
the
pad
locate
the
pad
Heights
of
the
homes,
so
there
were,
there
would
have
been
retaining
walls.
They
were
just
not
defined
because
it
was
more
preliminary
in
design.
It
was
not
the
final
development
plan,
which
is
what
they're
trying
to
get
at
this
point
they're
getting
closer
to
achieving
that
now.
So.
L
If
in
this
kind
of
as
a
premonition
of
what
we've
come
to
us,
when
we
go
from
preliminary
to
final,
this
is
kind
of
leading
us
down
that
path.
If
applicant
came
in
with
lots
at
grade,
and
then
they
came
in
with
a
final
and
under
preliminary,
and
they
came
with
a
final
with
an
8-foot
retaining
wall
is
that
substantial
compliance.
F
Well,
what
we
look
at
is,
you
know
what
was
approved
in
terms
of
the
padded
locations
and
then
integrating
the
you
know
as
we
gets
the
final
develop
line.
We
look
to
you
know
see
if
that's
a
major
difference
and
ultimately
we
evaluate
all
the
the
facts
that
we
have
and
at
the
time
I
don't
know
that
they
had
all
the
facts
that
there
was
going
to
be
an
8-foot
retaining
wall.
Thank.
L
F
A
O
O
Is
it
microphone
on?
Maybe
I'm
not
talking
close
up
I'm,
sorry,
okay.
So
the
first
item
would
be
the
I
know,
you'd
mentioned
in
regards
to
the
per
sales
and
the
lawsuit
and
I
I
have
seen
it
because
the
sellers
on
they
did
show
it
to
us
and
in
part
of
it,
was
to
that
the
Paseos
could
be
eliminated.
So
that
was
one
of
the
main
reasons
was
was
to
eliminate
those
Paseos
was
to
give
the
deeper
backyards
to
minimize
when
you're
walking
in
those
between
those
be
sales.
O
O
Our
goal
is
to
raise
the
the
pad
elevations
to
eliminate
the
really
high
retaining
walls,
to
still
give
the
your
views
actually
on
on
those
homes
facing
the
west
to
the
west
mountains
you're
going
to
have
a
much
better
view
than
being
kind
of
in
a
hole
per
se
on
the
on
the
elevation
themselves,
and
one
of
the
reasons
also
was
to
reroute
the
storm
drain.
That
right
now
has
it
coming
down:
Bilardo
to
muskie
across
Palm
Canyon
down
muskie
to
random
road
into
Tok
Woods
Creek.
O
Our
objective
is
to
we
put
the
common
area
and
there's
actually
I
know
that
several
people
have
mentioned:
there's
57
home
sites,
there's
actually
56
home
sites,
we've
not
not
changed
the
amount
of
home
sites,
there's
56
home
sites
and
25
condos.
So
what
we've
done
is
we've
moved
up
the
streets
to
the
north
and
put
a
common
area
on
56,
so
we
could
take
the
storm
drain
from
the
west
mountains
and
flow
through
our
site
instead
of
going
all
the
way
around
down.
O
You
know,
like
I,
said
all
those
streets
prior,
so
our
main
objective
was
basically
a
lot
less
maintenance
costs
to
maintain
the
storm
drains
lot
less
tearing
up
the
streets.
There's
you
know
all
those
brand
new
streets
on
Bilardo,
Mesquite
they'd
all
have
to
be
torn
up.
There's
a
42
inch
storm
drain
line
that
there's
proposed
down
on
random
Road.
Our
objective
is
to
not
do
that.
O
O
Then
our
goal
today
is
based
is
to
is
to
have
the
PD
intend
extensions,
but
also
like
I
mentioned,
is
to
basically
give
thought
of
the
revisions
that
we
are
going
to
present.
I
know
that
there's
some
differences
from
what
was
originally
proposed,
but
we
still
believe
we
are
in
substantial
conformance
and
an
overall
better,
much
better
layout
and
if.
G
G
Skye
Smith,
with
MSA
consulting
the
previously
out
on
Bilardo.
We
talked
about
eight-foot
retaining
walls,
but
you
also
got
a
six-foot
wall
on
top
of
that.
So
now
you
got
a
you
know:
14-foot
wall
in
your
backyard,
which
is
nobody
wants
to
look
at
that.
So
we
kind
of
alleviated
those
tall
walls
on
Bilardo
by
transitioning
that
retaining
portion
along
the
south
edge
and
putting
that
where
Allen
pointed
out
the
common
area
for
the
storm
drain
that
runs
through.
J
O
You
know
what
one
more
comment
that
you'd
mentioned.
Also
long
talked
woods,
Creek
is
is
the
buffer.
Is
we
don't
plan
on
using
the
back
of
the
homes
as
the
rear
wall?
We
don't
want
to
have
because
we'd
mentioned
you
know
there
are
homeless.
We
don't
want
our
residents
to
have
people
walking
right
up
to
the
back
of
their
homes
where
they
can
actually
physically
look
in
a
window.
We
do
plan
on
building
along
along
talk,
wit,
screep.
O
We
will
work
with
the
Riverside
County
Flood,
Control
and
landscape
that
area
in
there
to
create
that
buffer.
I
know
that
there's
a
trail
and
landscaping
that's
proposed,
and
we
we
don't
intend
not
to
do
that.
We
just
plan
on
putting
a
wall
so
that
we,
our
residents,
have
privacy
in
their
own
rear
yards,
said
of
what
was
proposed
previously,
where
you
could
walk
up
to
anybody's
master
bedroom
window
and
look
right
in
without
having
a
wall.
So
our
main
thing
was
privacy,
elevations
and
storm
drain.
O
Just
to
also
note
when
we
do
raise
the
elevation
we're
doing
our
best
to
maintain
the
elevation
along
the
five
plexus,
the
25
condos
on
South
Palm
Canyon,
because
I
know
that
would
be
you
know
we
don't
want
to
go
any.
You
know,
I
think
we're
within
you
know.
One
point
to
you
know
that
max
one
foot
we're
trying
to
stay
within
one
foot
of
elevations
along
South
Palm
Canyon.
So
that
way
we
don't
disrupt
the
previously
approved
elevations
along
Palm
Canyon.
A
D
Today,
we're
being
just
asked
to
give
our
initial
thoughts
to
the
revisions
and
one
thing
I
would
I
would
really
like
to
request
when
it
comes
back
that
we
get
a
better
description
of
where
the
drains
are
changing.
I
have
a
hard
time
following
it
from
just
the
text
and
I
don't
see,
and
all
this
time
we
got
some
new
stuff
today
and
I
haven't
been
able
to
evaluate
that.
I
really
would
like
to
see
what
what
the
effect
of
moving
the
storm
drain
is.
D
I'm,
not
asking
you
to
describe
it
too
much
today,
but
I
think
when
we
come
back,
that's
going
to
be
an
issue,
the
any
changes
to
the
buffer
of
the
bike
trail
and
get
a
better
description
of.
What's
going
along
the
taco,
it's
great
jail,
I
think
that's
going
to
be
a
highlight
of
the
Commission's
thoughts
and
then
again
the
Paseos
and
what's
happening
to
them.
I
think
that's
pretty
easy,
I
guess
to
understand,
but
what
sort
of
backyards
of
those
folks
getting
back
with
the
elimination,
the
Versailles
they're.
D
H
Just
want
to
make
sure
again,
I
don't
harp
on
the
significant
change
aspect,
but
it
is
a
finding
that
we
have
to
be
comfortable
with
so
you
know,
combination
of
changes.
Some
of
the
changes
are
pursuant
to
the
court
decree
that
you're
making,
and
that
was
the
elimination.
Basically,
the
Paseos
and
the
retaining
law
was
that
a
court
decree
item
or
something
you
decided
on
your
own
with
respect
to
lowering
the
retaining
walls.
It.
O
H
H
O
H
H
O
O
Palma
Canyon,
yes,
weird,
because
right
now,
the
way
it's
configured
it's
to
really
a
large
step
design.
There's
you
know
anywhere
from
back
a
lot
7/8
there's
like
a
six
foot,
height
difference
between
8:00
and
not
7:00.
Our
goal
is
to
make
that
you
know
soften
it
to
like
two-foot
max
to
three
foot
instead
of
the
large
retaining
walls
they
have
here,
because
then
you're
doing
double
walls
which
would
eliminate
then
more
yard
space
for
our
residents.
So
our
goal
is
to
make
it
more
private
and
more
open
for
the
rear
yards
right.
Thank.
B
G
B
B
L
You
I
just
need
some
clarification,
I'm.
Looking
at
two
of
the
exhibits
that
were
handed
out
to
us
at
the
meeting
here,
one
of
them,
I
think,
is
right
up
here
before
us
and
the
other
one
is
called
the
wall
exhibit
the
wall
exhibit
shows
where
my
confusion
comes
in
Abelardo,
having
an
8-foot
retaining
wall,
and
this
exhibit
shows
something
quite
different.
It
shows
the
retaining
wall
being
much
shorter,
I'm,
not
talking
about
the
privacy
wall.
On
top
of
the
retaining
wall,
just
the
retaining
wall.
Can
you
explain
the
difference?
The.
G
Difference
is
we
just
kind
of
did
a
study
based
on
the
original
tentative
map
elevations
and
that's
the
one
that
says
high-tech
TTM
all
exhibit,
and
so
that's
showing
roughly
along
like
Bilardo
there,
that
some
of
those
pads
were
eight
feet
below
the
street.
So
you're
gonna
have
an
8
foot
retaining
wall
on.
G
G
L
L
L
O
A
I
have
some
questions
at
this
point.
It
concerns
we
did
a
major
architectural
on
this
that
went
to
Council
in
terms
of
what
the
condos
would
look
like
from
the
street
and
what
the
houses
would
look
like
from
the
street.
I
know
that
toll
has
a
la
very
familiar
with
you
and
you
have
some
of
your
own
design.
Styles.
Are
you
comfortable
or
do
we
expect
that
you
will
come
back
with
any
design
changes
in
what
the
design
the
design
facades
of
the
houses
were,
that
were
approved
in
concept?
Well,.
O
Our
goal
is
to
we
will
be
coming
back
to
answer
question
with
some
new
floor
plans,
we're
going
to
try
to
replicate
as
best
we
can
we're,
probably
I'm
thinking
we're
gonna
come
back
with
better
than
what
is
is
currently
approved.
As
far
as
the
single-family
residential
cuz
I
mean
you
know,
but
we
didn't
really
care
for
the
the
layout
of
the
floor
plans
on
that
to
prove
the
five
plexus
I've
been
in
communication
with
the
original
architect,
and
so
we
we
haven't,
really
talked
about
change
I.
O
Actually,
personally,
I
like
the
five
flexes
the
condos
along
along
South,
Palm
Canyon.
So
those
we've
not
talked
about
changing
its
its
the
single-family
residential.
As
far
as
the
floor
plans
will
change,
because
we've
got
some
plans,
that'll
make
you
know
a
little
shorter
to
give
a
bigger
backyard
cuz
right
now,
I
said:
they've
got
five-foot
backyards
and
everything
was
court
yard
designs
and
one
thing
that
we're
also
doing
that
I
know
David
mentioned
was
our
let's
call
our
benefit
and
burden
ease,
because
you
got
a
seven
foot
and
three
foot
side
yard.
A
O
O
See
some
it's
a
shared,
you
see
ceman,
thank
you,
and
so
the
benefit
of
that
is
you're,
going
to
gain
another
three
feet,
and
then
we're
also
going
to
be
eliminating
all
the
retaining
walls
that
would
go
down
the
property
line.
So
that
way
we
have
more
of
an
open
feel
community.
Instead
of
all
these
walls
and
step
downs
and
retaining
walls,
so.
A
C
Chair
as
you
begin
your
deliberations,
because
there
has
been
much
discussion
about
aspects
of
the
site
plan
and
proposed
changes,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
as
you
are
deliberating
on
this
item,
you're
deliberating
on
the
extension
of
time
of
the
applications
and
you're.
Looking
specifically
at
the
criteria
on
pages
5
through
7
of
your
staff
report,
we.
A
We
plan
to
do
that
I
plan
to
take
this
into
sentence
without
a
vote.
Okay,
I
plan
to
first
talk
about
the
extension
and
then
I
talk
I
plan
to
give
comments
back
to
Toll
Brothers
regarding
the
items
that
they've
mentioned
to
us.
So
they
have
a
sense
of
what
the
Planning
Commission
would
look
at
when
this
came
back
to
us.
I
just.
A
A
A
We'd
have
to
approve,
it
was
the
final
PDD,
but
we're
extending
a
project.
It
would
be
unfair
to
them
if
we
thought
those
changes
were
so
significant
that
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
approve
it.
I
think
that's
that's
the
case.
We
want
to
give
them
an
idea
now
that
this
is
approvable
and
to
extend
right
again.
C
That's
only
approving
if
you
approve
the
extension,
if
you
don't,
then
the
question
is
moot,
but
again
on
the
extension
of
time.
You
are
looking
at
the
site
plan
that
was
approved
by
City
Council
and
there
are
no
changes
to
that
site
plan,
and
that
would
be
the
basis
of
the
criterion
that
you're
looking
at
relative
to
the
extension
of
time.
L
Thank
you
I
think
it's
always
difficult,
because
an
applicant,
the
merchant
builder,
as
well
as
the
land
developers,
invested
in
a
large
amount
of
time
and
effort
into
making
this
happen.
I
also
understand
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
contention
over
peds
in
general,
of
which
this
was
approved
by
in
general.
L
L
Mondai
wasn't
involved
in
the
original
approval
of
this
process
either.
So
at
this
point,
I
am
still
weighing
my
options
on
the
extension
of
time
on
this
or
not
the
extension
of
time
on
this.
If
somebody
had
no
retaining
walls
and
they
came
in
with
a
wall
that
was
10,
foot
tall
I
would
personally
not
vote
that
that
was
substantial
compliance.
B
Yes,
I
am
going
to
oppose
a
time
extension
not
having
to
do
with
the
proposed
changes
to
the
site
plan
or
the
architecture
it
to
me.
It's
less
relevant
than
what
the
time
extension
extensions
were
meant
to
accommodate
in
the
first
place,
and
it
seems
to
me,
we've
been
talking
about
time,
extensions
for
for
quite
a
while,
and
that
we
at
least
my
thinking,
is
that
time
extensions
should
be
limited.
B
We
should
not
approve
them
without
substantial
reasons
and
and
the
reasons
that
we
would
approve
a
time.
Extension
in
my
opinion
would
have
to
do
with
events
that
are
out
of
the
control
of
the
person
or
they
or
the
company
asking
for
the
time
extension
and
those
things
would
be
things
like
lawsuits
or
things
like
at
sarena,
Park
I
believe
there
was
a
time
extension
having
to
do
with
some
of
the
condo
HOAs
having
to
agree
on
an
access
road
things
that
are
substantial
or
in
the
case
of
the
Hacienda
Hotel
there
was
an.
B
There
was
a
just.
There
was
some
Indian
land
that
needed
an
extension
on
the
lease
things
that
are
substantially
outside
the
control
of
the
applicant.
The
the
reasons
cited
for
the
time
extension
in
this
case
are
wholly
within
the
per
the
what
the
app,
what
is
in
control
of
the
the
people
that
orig
only
got
the
approval
so
I,
think
another
one
year
on
this
is
is,
is
the
wrong
thing
to
do?
H
H
But
the
lawsuit
still
changed
made
some
significant
changes
based
on
the
courts,
our
career,
which
is
what
in
which
they
had
no
control
or
I'm
wrestling
with
whether
these
changes
might.
My
issue
is
whether
the
changes
are
significant
or
not,
and
I
finally
concluded
that
if
you
look
at
the
basic
overall
plan,
the
site
plan
itself,
it's
pretty
much.
D
We're
kind
of
in
a
funny
position
here
because
we're
actually
not
extending
the
extending
with
these
changes,
we're
actually
extending
the
old
plan
so
that
we
can
consider
changes
to
the
old
flam.
Is
this?
We.
We
know
that
if
we
didn't
extend
it,
the
project
is
dead
because
there's
not
enough
time
to
actually
get
to
the
point
of
having
building
permits
or
whatever
it
take
to
do
to
get
the
project
in
place.
D
So
you
would
be
killing
the
project,
but
if
we
went
through
a
lot
of
time
on-
and
we
reviewed
this
extensively,
the
council
may
even
made
more
changes
than
well
some
additional
changes
to
what
we
had
done
and
I
still
think
it's
going
to
be
a
good
project.
Evidently
they
have
worked
out
some
of
the
issues
with
I'm,
not
sure
who
was
the
lawsuit.
D
People
were,
but
in
this
case,
but
those
have
been
resolved,
but
does
all
take
time
and
I
think
in
this
case
the
one-year
extension
is
is
certainly
merited,
but
particular
with
the
change
of
ownership.
That
also
changes
things
changes.
What
can
be
done
and
the
new
owners
want
to
come
in
and
make
it
a
better
project
which
is
hard
to
argue
against.
D
So
I'm
gonna
be
supporting
the
extension,
and
we
have
lots
where
we're
finding
out
that
our
current
times
are
not
really
working
by
the
way.
Almost
every
major
project
requires
an
extension
just
to
get
through
our
process,
because
issues
come
up
and
by
all
design
that
take
time
to
resolve
with
that
I'm
done.
A
There
two
things
that
I
would
say
about
this:
I'd
say
that
they
were
intervening
circumstances
and
it's
both
so
the
loss
of
one
merchant
builder,
one
potential
buyer
who
took
this
through
and
then
having
a
new
one,
come
in
that's
substantial
and
the
lawsuit,
substantial,
so
I
think
and
I
think
they've
continued.
We
have
seen
continued
work
on
this,
so
I'm,
going
to
vote
in
favor
of
the
extension
I
will
have
a
few
comments
on
the
proposals
that
they
have
in
front
of
us
in
terms
of
guidance
and
what
we
think
on
those
issues.
A
But
to
me
it's
it's
really
the
same
plan
that
the
Consul
approved
I
I,
also
think
that
as
I
look
at
it,
this
this
area
does
need
to
get
developed.
We
have
a
project,
that's
unfortunately,
vested
across
the
street.
That's
been
sitting
there
for
10
years
and
a
vacant
parcel
next
to
it.
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
see
something
work
in
that
particular
area
and
I
think
this
is
probably
as
good
a
plan
as
we
will
get
there.
So
I'm
I'm
in
favor
of
the
extension.
A
A
L
Know
extensions
have
been
contention,
contentious,
I,
don't
think
this
extension
is
the
extensions
that
this
Commission
has
seen
in
the
past.
This
is
a
much
shorter
time
frame.
It's
not
like
it's
been
10
years,
I
think.
Indeed
they
have
demonstrated
through
the
staff
report,
a
very
good
little
effort
to
keep
the
project
moving
forward.
I
do
have
some
comments
as
well,
so
they
come
back
with
the
final
that
looks
better,
but
I
would
support
the
extension
for
one
year.
A
D
A
B
D
A
L
I
think
I've
expressed
it
once
and
I'll
just
express
it
again
along
a
public
right
away.
I
personally,
do
not
think
I'm
in
something
is
in
substantial
compliance.
If
a
ten-foot
wall
is
allowed
or
larger
I
think
there
are
ways
if
it
is
absolutely
necessary
to
mitigate
it,
because
it
is
in
the
public
realm
to
look
at
every
day.
L
I
I'd
like
to
hear
more
in
the
future
about
the
Bilardo
side
and
whether
I
want
to
see
some
3d
representations
of
what
these
raised
pads
will
look
like
and
how
the
views
will
be
if
you're
humble
re
are
looking
east,
because
I've
been
disappointed
by
other
projects
that
I've
seen
recently
in
the
area
or
they're
there
on
enormous
pads
that
seem
out
of
place
and
inappropriate.
So
I'd
like
to
see
how
that's
actually
going
to
look
with
some
sort
of
3d
views.
I.
H
Also
agree
the
comments
I'm
concerned
about
raising
the
pads
too
high.
We
were
concerned
about
the
big
four
and
I
know.
Mr.
hirschbaum
talked
about
the
a
C's
concern
about
the
views.
I
agree
with
mr.
woods.
We
have
to
rethink
the
walls.
There
must
be
a
more
creative
way
to
do.
The
retaining
wall
and
I
would
like
to
see
more
detail
on
the
drainage,
because
I
don't
really
understand
it.
I
think
adding
more
backyard
space
on
the
northern
side.
Part
of
the
site
is
very
desirable
and
I'm.
A
Agree
with
all
of
the
comments
so
far,
I
think
a
grading
plan
that
we
review
has
to
be
part
of
any
changes
that
we
see.
We've
got
a
pretty
good
sense
of
that
I
liked.
Some
of
the
changes
that
came
in
I
thought
eliminating
the
Paseos
was
actually
very
good
because
of
the
area
it's
in
and
that
if
the
project
is
open,
I
would
be
not
comfortable
with
changes
to
the
architecture
along
Palm,
Canyon
I.
A
I
agree
with
the
comments
about
the
the
north
side
and
going
down
to
the
to
the
chocolates
Creek
I
think
the
original
plan
on
that
was
better
in
terms
of
the
preservation
of
the
creek.
So
I'm,
that's
the
one
area
that
you
you
raised,
that
I
was
really
cautious
about
I
thought.
A
lot
of
thought
had
gone
into
that
in
terms
of
a
public
amenity
and
I
didn't
just
want
to
see
it
change
for
bigger
backyards
for
the
residents.
D
D
One
of
my
most
important
factors
that
I
want
to
make
sure
is
still
isn't
adversely
affected,
with
any
changes
to
the
north
side
is
the
under
crossing
of
Palm
Canyon
Drive
for
the
trail.
That
is
a
critical,
critical
public
facility
from
my
point
of
view,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
any
new
drain
out
Falls
or
landscaping
plans
or
anything
like
doesn't
sac,
doesn't
make
that
a
problem
that
that
to
me
is
one
of
the
key
benefits
of
this
project
is
to
be
able
to
get
that
under
crossing
in
there
again.
D
The
Bilardo
is
a
big
issue
and
then
the
lots,
a
lot
elevation
changes
I,
don't
understand
the
way
that
was
maybe
I
didn't
understand
it
before,
but
now
I
know
that
it's
been
pointed
out,
I
don't
understand
it.
Even
more
so
I
want
to
see
how
that
works.
What
the
relative
elevations
of
the
adjacent
Lots
are
I
think
that's
enough.
D
B
And
this
goes
to
Commissioner
woods
earlier
question
about
the
elimination
of
the
Paseos
and
rethinking
the
public
benefit
I'd
like
to
see
when
you
come
back
I'm
not
for
the
Paseos
I.
Don't
think
that
there
were
any
really
great
shakes
to
be
honest
with
you
and
I'm
happy
to
see
him
go,
but
I
would
like
to
see
an
another
hard
look
at
the
public
benefit.
I
think
the
project
itself
doesn't
qualify
as
a
public
benefit.
The
public
benefit
has
to
be
something
the
public
the
public
can
enjoy.
A
N
D
C
What
we
will
do
is
we
will
evaluate
the
public
benefit
when
the
final
PD
comes
back
to
you.
One
of
the
things
to
take
into
consideration
is
City.
Council
didn't
just
qualify
the
project
as
the
public
benefit.
There
were
other
amenities
that
are
listed
there
in
the
approving
resolution
that
satisfied
public
benefit,
and
we
can
go
through
that
as
we
review
the
final
PDD.
B
I
understand
that,
but
my
point
is
that
they're
eliminating
one
of
the
public
benefits
listed,
the
Paseos
I'm,
not
against
them,
eliminating
that
public
benefit,
but
I
think
there
should
be
a
compensating
public
benefit
to
make
up
for
that
loss
of
a
public
benefit
as
it
was
approved
by
the
council.
Yes,.
C
D
D
A
C
So
going
through
the
comments
as
they
were
given
Commissioner
woods
wanted
to
see
a
solution
to
the
retaining
walls
that
there
not
be
any
ten-foot
high.
Retaining
walls
also
requested
that
there
be
rather
robust
landscaping
and
buffers
along
the
trail.
Going
back
to
the
original
approval,
Commissioner
Maroussi
wanted
to
see
the
additional
details
of
the
grading
at
Bilardo
and
their
plans
for
raising
the
pads
and
wanted
3d
views
of
what
that
would
look
like
across
the
site.
Commissioner,
her
spine
does
not
support
the
retaining
the
Paseos
and
wants
to
look
at
if
those
are
eliminated.
C
Chair
Warmack
also
discussed
the
grading
plan
that
needs
to
be
submitted
with
PAD
Heights,
on
that
when
the
final
PD
comes
back
did
not
want
to
see
any
changes
to
the
approved
architecture
of
the
multifamily
buildings
along
South.
Palm
Canyon
supports
the
changes
that
are
proposed
relative
to
the
dog
park
and
the
pool
agrees
with
the
comments
about
the
landscape,
buffer
and
landscaping
along
the
north
side
and
trail
go
back
to
the
original
plan.
C
C
A
L
A
Have
one
last
comment
on
it,
which
is
just
I,
think
toll?
Can
it's
part
of
why
I
supported
the
extension?
We've
had
a
really
really
good
experience
with
toll
at
escena
in
terms
of
how
happy
homeowners
are
with
their
product
and
how
nice
it
looks,
and
I'm
I'm
very
hopeful
about
them.
Moving
forward
on
this
project.
H
A
A
The
last
item
is
Palm
Canyon,
Palm,
Springs,
Country,
Club
LLC
for
a
time
extension
for
the
entitlements
and
review
of
the
development
agreement
of
sarena
Park,
a
residential
development
consisting
of
386
attached
and
detached
residential
units
open
space
streets
park,
space
on
a
one
hundred
and
twenty-six
acres
of
land
previously
operated
as
a
golf
course
generally
located
east
of
sunrise
way,
north
of
Verona,
Road
and
southwest
of
white.
The
white
water
river
staff
report.
Please,
yes,.
F
Sir
we're
making
commissioners
so
the
two
items
before
you
today
are
an
extension
of
time
for
the
entitlements
on
the
project,
as
well
as
a
review
of
the
revised
development
agreement
that
was
approved
by
council.
So
the
first
item
is
the
extension
of
time.
The
Afghan
is
receiving
a
one-year
extension
of
time
from
September
7th
of
this
year
to
September
7th
next
year
for
all
the
entitlements.
Your
your
decision
today
would
is.
F
The
applicant
has
made
efforts
to
exercise
these
entitlements,
namely
they've
been
working
with
staff,
as
it
relates
to
the
revision
of
the
tentative
tract
map
and
the
development
agreements,
development
agreement
for
the
project
when
the
project
was
approved
in
September
of
2016.
There
were
revisions
to
the
site
plan
that
necessitated
an
updated,
tentative
tract
map.
F
The
applicant
submitted
the
revised
Sennett
of
map
in
October
of
last
year,
worked
with
staff
on
making
some
changes
to
the
plan
in
order
to
ensure
it
was
in
compliance
with
the
Council's
approval
and
that
the
revised
plan
then
now
that
it
conforms
to
the
Council's.
Approval
is
consistent
with
that
action
and
so
that
map
now
is
has
been
brought
up
to
conformance.
So
there
are
conditions
that
we
are
recommending
as
a
part
of
your
draft
resolution.
F
That
table
is
based
on
the
table
that
you
see
in
the
map
that
was
revised
earlier
this
year,
so
those
standards
are
consistent
with
a
lot
layout
as
revised
per
the
tentative
map.
So
that's
that's
one
item.
The
other
item
has
been
the
development
agreement
which
the
African
has
been
working
with
staff.
In
order
to
to
execute
that
document,
the
time
extension
would
effectively
allow
staff
to
work
with
the
African
and
finalize
the
development
agreement
in
order
to
exercise
that
document
and
execute
it
with
the
execution
of
the
document.
F
F
So
those
are
the
two
items
that
are
you
are
considering
today,
you
did
receive
three
items
of
correspondence
from
the
public,
one
of
which
was
in
your
report.
The
other
two
were
provided
as
supplemental
materials
today
and
then,
as
I
said,
there
are
two
resolutions
for
your
consideration
this
evening.
So
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
The
applicant
is
here,
along
with
their
council,
to
provide
additional
clarification
on
any
information.
A
Just
in
the
interests
of
speeding
this
up
a
little
bit,
the
the
correspondence
we
received
was
regarding
change,
the
entitlements
that
were
granted.
Those
aren't
before
us
today
so
what's
before
us
today,
and
can
you
how
long
did
it
take
to
get
this
street
changed?
That
was
a
very
big
issue.
Wasn't
it.
A
F
A
A
The
other
major
issue
is
the
development
agreement
and
Marcus
is
here
and
I'm
just
going
to
ask
if
he
can
explain
to
us
I
I
sat
in
on
City
Council
when
this
came
before
council
and
the
issue
was
there
had
been
an
agreement
with
$3,000,000
council
had
agreed
for
it
to
be
postponed
for
up
to
three
years.
The
council
wanted
a
security
agreement,
some
kind
of
note
if
it
wasn't
paid
at
the
end
of
three
years.
The
developer
didn't
want
to
do
that.
What
progress
have
you
made
on
that
issue?
Marcus.
P
Sure,
basically,
it
eliminates
the
need
to
furnish
an
actual
note
to
secure
the
three
million
dollar
payment,
and
the
thing
to
consider
is
the
fact
that
the
development
agreement
itself
is
security.
So
we've
clarified
that
the
three
million
dollar
payment
remains
due
and
payable
within
three
years
of
its
effective
date,
effective
date
of
the
development
and
if
any
or
all
of
that
payment
hasn't
been
made,
that
constitutes
a
default.
It
always
would.
P
But
this
is
just
clarifying
the
fact
that
this
constitutes
a
default,
and
then
the
city
has
all
the
remedies
available
to
it
as
allowed
by
law
under
the
development
agreement
and
Mark
Allen.
The
attorney
representing
the
developer
can
get
into
that
more
into
that
more
detail.
But
essentially
we
had
to
come
to
this
agreement
to
revise
the
development
agreement
in
order
for
the
developer
to
move
forward
with
the
project,
and
he
can
go
into
the
details
of
the
complications.
The
security
instrument
represented
to
them
in
getting
the
financing
that
they'll
need
to
move
forward
with.
B
A
P
A
A
H
A
question
one
of
the
findings
we
have
to
make
for
the
extension
is
that
the
applicants
demonstrated
convincingly
and
clearly
that
the
project
will
be
substantially
underway
within
the
extended
period.
Although
you've
requested
a
two-year
extension,
our
staff
is
recommending
a
one-year
extension
if
we
were
to
grant
a
one-year
extension.
Where
would
we
be
a
year
from
now?
Well,.
G
So
so
I
think
we're
I
think
we're
good
on
that
negotiating
with
the
city
and
then
dealing
with,
as
was
already
mentioned,
that
we
had
to
read
since
the
entitlements
were
changed
at
the
state
council.
We
had
to
then
go
back
and
do
a
new
track
map,
so
all
of
those
processes
have
been
have
taken
place
and
Nicole
can
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
what
actual
physical
things
the
have
been
are.
G
G
D
N
N
N
D
A
G
B
A
A
B
B
F
A
D
M
D
G
L
M
G
L
Appreciate
that,
because
you
know
this
is
just
the
beginning
of
grading
in
people's
backyards
and
standard
conditions,
don't
always
help
alleviate
kind
of
the
impact
that
that
can
create.
So
any
outreach
you
can
do
at
this
point,
so
people
are
not
upset,
would
really
help
us
and
yourselves
I.
Think
absolutely.
N
H
A
F
A
B
D
C
Just
want
to
remind
you
all
that
we
will
have
a
special
Planning
Commission
meeting
on
October
the
3rd
that
will
start
here
in
Council
Chambers
at
noon.
Instead
of
our
regular
time,
we
do
have
to
be
out
of
chambers
by
4:00
p.m.
because
there
is
a
city
council
meeting
that
night
that
they
need
to
set
up,
for.
We
have
four
ordinance
zone.
C
Excuse
me,
zone
text,
amendments
on
your
agenda
for
October,
the
3rd,
we'll
be
going
over
the
Golf
Course
conversion,
ordinance
to
transfer
of
development
rights,
ordinance
the
PDD
ordinance
and
we'll
just
be
doing
a
presentation
on
the
small
law
ordinance.
It's
not
quite
ready
to
come
forward
to
you
an
ordinance
form
yet
so
those
will
be
the
items
that
we
discuss
on
the
October
3rd
agenda
and
again
that
starts
it.