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This
is
the
public
comment
period.
This
time
has
been
a
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
Planning
Commission
on
the
consent,
calendar
and
other
items
in
the
general
interest
in
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
Commission.
Please
note
that
the
Planning
Commission
is
prohibited
from
taking
action
on
items
that
are
not
on
the
posted
agenda.
Three
minutes
are
allowed
for
each
speaker,
members
of
the
public
who
would
like
to
comment
either
on
the
consent,
calendar
or
items
3a
or
for
a
are
directed
to
comment
under
this
portion
of
the
agenda.
A
The
public
hearing
you
can
speak
separately
on
the
public
hearing
if
you
wish
to
there
being
no
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
speak.
The
public
comment
section
is
closed.
The
consent
calendar
consists
of
item
3a,
which
is
the
approval
of
the
minutes
of
may
9,
2008
een
and
1
1
B,
which
is
Gordon
Jareau
for
a
minor
architectural
approval
to
add
a
250
square-foot
casita
to
an
existing
single-family
residence.
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A
1.36
acre
hillside
lot
located
at
911
ooh
can
I,
have,
can
I
have
a
motion
please
or
if
there
any.
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A
That
passes
6-0
moving
to
the
first
public
hearing.
This
is
good
development,
good
LLC,
requesting
an
extension
of
time
for
a
major
architectural
approval
and
planned
development
amendment
to
construct
a
66
room,
three-story
hotel
within
the
Plaza
del
Sol
shopping
center,
located
at
150
55
South,
Palm
Canyon
Drive
staff
report.
Please.
G
Yes,
madam
chair
and
planning
commissioners,
the
item
before
you
is
an
extension
of
time
request
by
develop
good
LLC
for
the
construction
of
a
new
hotel
building
within
the
Plaza
del
Sol
shopping
center.
The
hotel
is
proposed
at
two
thousand
nine,
two
thousand
twenty
nine
thousand
seven
hundred
and
twelve
square
feet
in
size,
three
storeys
in
height
and
would
contain
22
guest
rooms.
G
The
City
Council
approved
this
application
back
on
October
5th
of
2016,
including
the
amendment
to
the
planned
development
district
and
the
major
architectural
application
the
applicant
has
been
working
through.
The
plan
check,
review
process
has
essentially
completed
most
of
the
requirements
for
the
issuance
of
the
permit,
for
both
the
grading
is
and
the
building
permit.
However,
he
has
run
into
some
issues
with
respect
to
taking
ownership
of
the
property
and
has
requested
that
an
additional
one-year
extension
be
granted
by
the
Planning
Commission.
G
So
the
request
would
extend
if
the,
if
the
Commission
approved
the
request
today
from
October
6
of
this
year
until
October
5th
of
2019
staff
and
did
an
analysis
in
your
report
being
an
on
page
five
of
the
requirements
of
the
zoning
code
and
you'll
note
that
we
reference
much
of
what
is
realistic
in
the
applicants.
Justification
letter
for
the
time
extension,
no
specifically
the
issues
that
were
run
into
with
the
negotiations
of
the
transfer
of
ownership
for
the
property.
G
So
in
staffs
view
of
the
requests,
the
project
does
provide
a
good
demonstration
of
good
cause
for
extending
the
entitlement,
and
we
have
prepared
a
draft
resolution
to
that
effect
as
a
part
of
an
attachment
to
your
report.
So
that
would
conclude
my
presentation.
I
am
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
The
applicant
is
also
here
in
this.
G
H
G
Based
on
the
description
that
they've
given
us,
there
isn't
any
reason
why
it
shouldn't
be
underway.
At
that
time,
as
I
said,
the
applicant
has
gone
through
all
the
steps
to
essentially
issue
a
permit,
which
involves
a
number
of
submittals
payments
that
go
to
the
city
for
issuance
of
permit
and
revisions
to
plans.
So,
in
the
view
of
staff,
I
think
the
African
has
made
good
efforts
just
so
that
the
permit
is
issued
and
they
begin
construction
within
the
time
requested.
H
There's
some
mention
of
the
financing
and
the
issue
that
the
lender-
and
this
is
maybe
a
question
for
the
applicant,
but
it's
your
understanding
that
the
lender
initially
indicated
that
they
would
support
this
leasehold,
but
then
they
had
a
second.
They
thought
about
it
and
changed
their
mind,
and
so
therefore,
the
applicant
had
to
find
a
way
to
purchase
the
property
from
the
tribal
lease
holder
and
the
attorney
for
the
tribal
lease
owner
passed
away
and
so
that
they
had
to
come.
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G
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I
do
have
a
question
for
staff
and
part
of
my
ignorance
for
not
being
here
during
the
original
approval
of
the
thing.
As
we
know,
this
site
has
been
very
controversial
prior
to
this
application
coming
in
so
I'm,
just
wondering
developed,
good
LLC
is
filing
this
or
had
filed
it
on
behalf
of
John
Westman.
Is
that
still
the
case.
A
I
think
we
should
let
the
applicant
answer
when
it
came
to
us
before.
Commissioner.
Would
the
applicant
was
separate
from
John
Westman
John
West
holds
a
master
lease
for
the
property
and
it
was
a
planned
district
planned
development
district
for
the
entire
property.
This
is
a
subset.
So
what
we
looked
at
was
a
modification
of
the
planned
development
district
to
allow
this
building
and
they
were
coming
in
as
a
separate
entity
as
a
sub
lessee
under
the
master
lease.
A
This
was
originally
planned
and
I.
Think
if
I'm
correct
this
was
planned
as
a
trailer
park
originally
or
held
back
for
a
trailer
park.
So
I
don't
think
it's
accurate
that
it
was
John
Westman
who
was
the
applicant
I
think
they
were
involved
because
they
hold
the
master
lease
for
the
original
planned
development
district.
Thank.
F
G
Would
have
it,
and
that
was
part
of
the
original
conditions
of
approval
for
the
project.
The
Commission
didn't
require
certain
specific
requirements,
they
wit
the
outdoor
music
that
was
previously.
There
is
not
the
same,
though
this
would
be
a
lower,
lower
impact,
sound
system
versus
what
we
had
previously
been
there.
So
the
speakers
that
were
up
elevated
will
note
would
no
longer
be
part
of
the
outdoor
space
and.
A
Applicant
would
be
next
and
after
the
public
hearing
we
can
keep
before
we
close.
It
will
keep
the
applicant
up
to
ask
answer,
questions
of
which
people
have
met.
It
appears
people
have
many.
So
at
this
point,
I'm
going
to
open
the
public
hearing.
If
the
applicant
would
come
up,
you
have
ten
minutes,
and
then
members
of
the
public
would
be
welcome
to
speak.
I
I'm,
the
founder
co-founder
of
arrive
hotel,
founder
of
developed
good
I'll,
go
through
the
history,
a
little
bit
of
the
property.
So
we
a
sorry,
we
acquired
a
sublease
from
John
Westman
who
holds
a
master
lease
on
the
entire
development,
all
the
way
down
to
the
Eisenhower
Center.
So
that
includes
on
the
property,
the
Steinmart
and
everything.
So
we
subleased
everything
north
of
the
drive
aisle
there
all
the
way
back
to
Bilardo
in
the
original
discussions
with
our
lender.
I
At
answer
your
question
Peter,
we
had
described
how
the
the
lease
holding
would
happen
at
that
time.
There
was
a
20-year
lease.
Westman
was
able
to
extend
his
lease
with
the
tribal
member
to
49
years.
They
seemed
open
to
discussing
it
after
we
got
the
entitlements
on
national
site
and
really
got
into
development,
drawings
and
full
construction.
I
Construction
estimates
from
Dave
Johnson
construction
got
further
along
with
the
bank
and
that's
when
they
started
blocking
on
the
lease
agreement.
That's
when
we
started
investigating
if
the
travel
number
one
would
sell
into
fee
and
if
John
could
reduce
his
lease
so
that
we
bought
him
out
of
his
lease
of
that
portion
and
we
own
the
property
fee,
simple
Saarland,
it
would
lend
on
it
and
that's
the
process
we
went
through
that
to
deal
with
the
tribal
member
were
working.
I
F
A
I
So
we've
been,
we
were
working
on
that
process
of
getting
the
fee
title
for
I,
think
six
months
and
then
the
tribal
members
attorney
passed
away,
and
then
we
spent
about
two
months
trying
to
locate
who
his
new
attorney
was,
as
we
had
never
had
direct
contact
with
them.
We
are
back
on
track
now
and
in
the
meantime,
went
through
the
full
bill
building
permit
process
so
we're
ready
to
pull
our
building
permit,
however,
and
that
expired
because
of
it's
been
over
the
over
the
six
months.
B
A
B
Is
Robert
Findlay,
my
wife
and
I
are
residents
of
Palm
Springs.
We
live
about
three
blocks
from
the
site
and
we've
been
since
the
very
beginning.
When
Chris
got
started
on
this
project,
we
went
to
the
original
meetings
and
from
everything
we
can
find
out
about
this.
It's
a
it's
a
the
best
use
for
that
land.
It
also
we
had
a
problem
originally
when
we
moved
in
with
the
sound
from
the
hotel.
That
was
not
the
hotel,
but
the
restaurant
that
was
there
bouncing
off
the
mountain
and
hitting
us
just
like.
B
We
were
sitting
right
under
the
speakers
and
this
hotel
since
they
removed
those
speakers
and
they're
not
going
to
do
the
loud
music
and
the
building
itself
would
create
a
buffer
there
to
keep
the
sound
from
doing
that.
It'd
really
be
good
for
the
residents
in
our
area
and
the
one
just
south
of
us
are
not
going
to
have
that
problem
like
we
did
before.
So
we're
really
very
much
in
favor
of
this
project
being
done
and
would
urge
you
to
approve
the
extension.
A
A
A
I
I
C
H
I
C
And
then,
finally,
when
you
were
going
through
your
approvals
before
Planning
Commission,
whatever
that
was
you
made
a
commitment
verbally
to
us
or
to
the
city
at
that
time,
that
you
were
going
to
assume
the
money
owed
to
the
city
on
the
remainder
of
that
incentive
that
was
granted
to
the
Hacienda?
Has
that
been
paid?
No.
I
G
No,
it
was
an
economic
incentive
agreement,
so
my
understanding
was
that
it
was
that
the
business
would
have
to
have
stayed
in
business
for
a
number
of
years.
Haciendas
correct
right
and
it
was.
He
would
assume
that
liability,
but
I,
don't
know
what
the
status
of
that
was
for
this
property
I'd
have
to.
We
would
have
to
research
that
with
the
Economic
Development
Office,
my.
C
I
I
H
I
Well,
the
banking
industry
is
very
challenging
right
now
for
hotels
in
general,
but
we
actually
couldn't
start
trying
to
get
our
loan
until
we
had
full
entitlements,
so
we
actually
had
only
been
working
on
it
for
maybe
six
months
before
that
issue
came
up
when
we
had
full
a
full
construction
budget
from
Dave
Johnston
to
actually
go
and
speak
to
various
lenders,
and
we
went
to
like
37
bings.
It
was
it's
really
challenging
right
now.
Could.
D
A
I
In
to
illustrate
kind
of
we've
been
doing
this
a
lot
we're
opening
up,
11
you've
arrived,
who
tells
right
now
and
we
run
in
the
same
issue
everywhere.
It
took
me
four
and
a
half
years.
They
get
this
arrived
hotel
funded
by
a
bank.
The
one
in
Austin
took
me
three
and
a
half
years,
so
it's
it's
challenging
I
mean
it's
a
new
brand.
This
is
a
new
brand
new
construction
in
general
and
the
construction
costs,
especially
in
California.
It's
really
hard
to
get
a
pink
to
wrap
their
head
around
it
and.
H
I
Well,
one
I
have
spent
the
money
like
usually
in
this
situation.
People
have
only
done
teittleman's
I
have
gone
full
ahead,
have
full
interior
design
full
building
permit
drawings.
I
am
committed
to
doing
this
project.
I
have
a
lot
of
my
own
personal
money
in
it.
I'm
going
to
do
this
project
and
I've
always
done
every
project.
I've
said
I
would
do.
F
Pardo,
thank
you.
Sometimes
I
find
that
active
listening
is
being
able
to
repeat.
Maybe
what
I
heard
from
you
and
I
just
want
to
repeat
to
make
sure
that
I
heard
it
correctly.
The
the
foundation
for
or
as
I
understand
it
as
you
stated
that
the
foundation
for
your
extension
is
that
you
were
really
working
through
the
lease
process.
It
was
owned
by
Ana
Lottie.
It
was
then
leased
to
John
Westman.
F
I
That's
what
we're
trying
to
do
so
we're
buying
John's
master
lease
out
of
this
portion
of
the
property
he's
remaining
in
his
Steinmart
and
his
other
property
is
south
all
the
way
to
the
Eisenhower.
And
then
we
have
a
purchased
sales
agreement
with
the
tribal
member
to
buy
fee
title,
but
obviously
it's
a
good
closing
conjunction.
So
we
pay
John
off
and
the
tribal
member
at
the
same
time
once
bia
approves
it
because
ours
I'm
not
gonna,
buy
his
lease
out
if
the
BIA
doesn't
improve
it.
So.
F
F
I
F
I
F
I
B
Have
a
quick
question:
Chris
everyone
knows
that
dealing
with
the
BIA
when
it
comes
to
tribal
property
can
be
very
problematic
and
taking
a
long
period
of
time.
I
know
you
do
your
best
to
see
that
it's
done
in
a
timely
way.
Do
you
have
someone
advising
you
on
how
to
deal
with
BIA?
Typically
I've
found
that
there
are
experts
out
there
who
can
run
the
minefields
and
get
things
done
through
that
incredible
bureaucracy,
yeah.
B
A
You
very
much
at
this
point
I'm
going
to
close
the
public
hearing.
The
matter
will
be
before
the
Commission
and
I
am
going
to
put
this
before
the
Commission,
with
a
motion
to
approve
I.
Think
from
just
stating
this
is
a
textbook
case
of
what
we
want
to
approve,
knowing
that
the
applicant
has
been
diligent.
There
are
some
issues
and
they
look
like
they're
resolvable,
but
I'd
like
to
hear
comments
from
the
Commission
Commissioner
Hirsch
mine,
I,.
A
B
Agree
with
you
chairman,
this
is
chairwoman.
This
is
a
classic
case
of
the
kind
of
progress
who
want
to
see
made
when
we're
looking
at
an
extension
for
one
year,
but
added
to
the
fact
that
Chris
Pardo
is
one
of
the
most
responsible
people
we've
had
before
this
commission
and
he's
a
man
of
his
word.
I
know
he'll
do
everything
he
can
to
do
this
on
time
and
with
the
appropriate
approvals,
so
I
support
the
motion.
H
I've
put
a
lot
of
thought
to
this
because
not
having
been
on
the
Planning
Commission
for
a
while
for
for
too
long,
the
city
has
extended,
you
know,
granted
time
extensions
to
entitlements
and
development
agreements
and
with
these
time,
extensions
projects
often
linger
for
years,
and
a
number
of
cases
are
never
built
at
all.
The
long-delayed
Hammond
project,
I
think,
is
a
perfect
example.
It's
gotten
unbuilt
for
11
years
with
multiple
time
extensions
along
the
way,
I'm
convinced
this
is
not
a
case
of
that,
but
I
am
very
skeptical
of
time.
H
Extensions
in
general,
the
city
approved
a
two-year
period.
For
this
to
begin
construction,
you
seem
to
have
very
good
reasons
why
it
didn't
and
I'm
convinced
that
those
are
legitimate
reasons
and
the
fact
that
you've
paid
all
these
funds
to
you
know,
move
forward
and
everything,
but
I
would
have
was
prepared
to
be
more
skeptical
and
not
support
any
time
extensions.
But,
given
the
experience
of
my
colleagues
here
and
their
belief
that
this
is
a
good
example
of
when
it
is
appropriate,
I'm
I'm
ready
to
support
it.
Mr.
E
I'd
like
to
just
respectfully
respond
to
Peter's
comments,
part
of
what
triggers
an
extension
or
what
constitutes,
in
my
mind,
not
performing
or
not
attempting
to
perform
to
achieve
action
on
a
project
is
more
of
a
criteria.
For
me,
I
think
this
applicant
has
has
shown
in
a
great
extent
they're
working
on
the
project.
It's
not
as
though
the
project
was
just
sitting
there
with
no
action
taking
place.
I
would
I
would
second
Commissioner
donenfeld
comments.
This
applicant
has
a
proven
track
record
in
the
city.
E
We
have
a
layer
of
complexity
in
this
city
in
terms
of
the
tribe
in
terms
of
land
leases,
which
is
not
the
case,
usually
in
other
jurisdictions.
Other
cities,
so
I
think
we
need
to.
We,
you
know
respond
to
that.
Things
are
complicated
financing
everything
else,
but
the
fact
that
this
project
is
in
plan
check
negotiations
are
underway.
I
feel
very
good
in
approving
this
extension
and.
H
A
F
Certainly
I
ever
tend
to
see
you
to
agree
with
Commissioner
Marut
see
that
looking
at
time.
Extensions
is
a
serious
matter
in
the
city
and
we've
had
both
bad
and
pas
and
good
experiences
with
that
in
this
particular
situation.
I
have
it
I
will
support
it.
I'll
support
this
time.
Extension
I
have
personally
had
to
deal
with
the
tribe.
I
know
how
difficult
that
is.
F
I
think
what
the
applicant
is
trying
to
do
in
both
the
sublease
and
with
the
tribe
is
admirable,
and
it
is
not
easy
to
achieve,
and
so
for
both
of
those
reasons
that
they
has
given
to
extend
it.
I
agree.
We've
also
had
residents
here
in
support
of
it,
especially
after
the
previous
operation
of
the
site,
was
so
negatively
impacted
the
neighbors
having
a
resident
here
to
support
it.
I
think,
is
a
very
positive
thing
and
the
noise
is
mitigated
for
future
I.
F
Think
the
the
issue
of
any
noise
that
might
come
from
the
site
is
fully
mitigated
in
the
existing
conditions.
To
not
be
a
concern
of
something
to
deal
with.
The
applicant
has
paid
the
fees
substantially
paid
fees.
He
is
moving
forward
to
try
and
get
it
and
I
agree
that
this
is
a
textbook
example
of
why
we
should
extend
but
provide
a
time
extension.
C
Just
like
to
address
that
to
newer
commissioners
on
the
panel,
the
the
issue
of
time
extensions
was
a
major
focus
of
the
group
of
this
commission
a
year
or
so
ago,
and
we
totally
agree
with
you
guys
on
its
abuse
historically
in
the
process
and-
and
we
studied
that
and
we
voted
new
rules
in
based
on
being
much
much
stricter
before
you
could
it
just
kept
going
on
to
infinity.
It
was
like
whenever
you
want
start
it
doesn't
matter
and,
and
now
I
think
we've
really
clamped
down
on
it.
C
A
There
there
also
is
a
difference
and
I
wanted
to
second
that
we
did
work
on
it.
The
first,
the
very
first
vote
I
got
to
vote
on,
was
a
ten-year
an
extension
that
was
in
its
tenth
year
and
I,
remember
objecting
to
it
and
my
first
Planning
Commission
meeting,
but
we
really
did
take
it
into
account,
and
at
this
point
there
are
no
exceptions
to
the
for
the
maximum
two
year:
extensions,
so
that
projects
won't
go
stale.
The
cameron
is
not
the
same
issue.
A
The
cameron
is
a
project
that
was
approved
and
then
vested
with
more
than
a
million
dollars
being
put
into
hardscape,
so
they're
in
a
very
different
position
than
this
project.
Unless
the
city
at
some
point
takes
actions
on
nuisance
and
nothing
goes
forward,
but
it
it
really.
This
isn't
the
cameron,
but
this
also
isn't
the
project
that
has
been
extended
ten
times
the
reasons
not
being
terrible
terribly
good.
A
A
Does
anybody
need
a
break?
Are
we
I
think
we're
probably
fine
moving
right
along
two
three,
a
Gulf
America
group,
LLC
or
owner
for
a
major
architectural
application
to
construct
a
3,700
square
foot
single-family
home
on
a
hilltop
located
at
two
four
six,
five
winters
Sun
Drive,
which
is
in
the
dev
a
part
of
the
desert,
Palisades
specific
plan
staff
report?
Please
thank.
D
You,
madam
chair,
as
noted,
this
is
a
major
architectural
application
for
a
new
single-family
residence
in
Desert
Palisades.
This
particular
lot
is
located
as
you
can
see,
on
page
2
of
your
staff
report.
Roughly
on
the
north
part
of
the
desert
Palisades
project,
the
site
is
open
on
one
side
with
part
of
the
projects
designated
open
space,
basically
towards
the
north
and.
D
You
Madame
chair,
and
that
is
a
beautiful
model.
So
as
noted
this
is
a
single-family
residence
on
a
hillside,
Laden
desert
Palisades.
This
project
was
reviewed
by
the
architectural
Advisory
Committee
last
month,
and
it's
noted
in
the
minutes.
In
your
packet
there
were
a
few
items
that
they
had
asked
some
questions
and
clarifications
on
and
I'll
just
go
through
those
quickly
and
then
I'm
gonna.
The
applicant
will
explain
any
other
things
about
this
home
that
you
may
have
questions
on
on
the
comments
that
came
from
the
AAC.
D
They
were
concerned
number
one
about
the
driveway,
which
was
proposed
in
a
natural
colored
gray,
concrete
the
applicant.
The
AC
mentioned
that
it
was
might
be
more
appropriate
and
fit
in
better
with
the
overall
hard
scape
in
desert
Palisades
if
it
were
a
pigmented
or
colored
concrete,
and
the
applicant
has
agreed
to
do
that
on
the
flat
work
on
this
project.
The
second
thing
was
a
question
or
clarification
on
the
location
of
the
pool
equipment
and
the
mechanical
convincing
units
on
either
side
of
this
house.
D
D
The
pool
barrier
on
this
project
has
been
revised
in
the
project
that
the
AAC
saw.
It
was
a
meandering,
basically
rectilinear
or
oriented
fence
layout
and
the
both
the
applicant
and
the
AAC
discussed
this
issue
of
how
to
make
this
pool
barrier
blend
better
into
the
natural
environment
of
this
site,
and
so,
when
I
get
to
the
site
plan,
I'll
show
you
where
that
fence
has
been
proposed
in
a
different
type
of
location.
D
It's
really
now
more
of
a
meandering
and
sand
curved
type
of
layout
to
the
fence
fence,
which
we
believe
is
going
to
be
more
naturalized.
If
you
will
into
the
surroundings
that
are
there,
the
AAC
also
as
a
side
note
on
this
matter,
asked
staff
to
review
the
question
of
whether
or
not
boulders
could
be
used
to
achieve
the
state,
regulated
five
foot
high
pool
barrier
and
in
review
of
that
with
the
director
of
building
safety.
That
is
not
an
option.
D
The
pool
barrier
does
need
to
be
such
that
it
is
not
Klima
below
of
building
and
safety,
determined
that
a
rock
boulder
assembly
would
not
constitute
a
legal
pool
barrier,
and
so
the
applicant
has
continued
to
propose
what
is
the
combination
of
weathered
steel
panel
sections
with
a
open,
vertical
picketed
fence
that
would
also
be
proposed
in
the
same
weathered
steel
as
the
cladding
on
the
home.
Let
me
run
through
the
slides
real
quickly,
so
you
get
a
sense
of
this.
D
The
one
that
you're
looking
at
right
now
is
the
view
of
the
back
of
the
house
actually
and
there
you
can
see
the
multi-level
configuration
of
the
home.
The
home
is
basically
a
steel
frame
home
in
a
post
in
beam
style
and,
as
you
can
also
see
from
this
image,
what
this
home
is
basically
founded
or
the
foundation
of
the
home
is
really
a
series
of
stem
walls.
D
Their
effort
on
this
project
was
to
impact
the
site
as
little
as
possible,
including
grading,
and
so
the
areas
where
there
is
really
a
substantial
amount
of
grading
on
the
site
is
for
the
driveway,
the
carport
in
the
garage
area
which
are
slabs
on
grade,
as
well
as
the
pool
and
the
terrorists
slabs
that
are
adjacent
to
the
pool.
The
rest
of
this
structure
is
set
up
upon
stem
walls
that
align
in
parallel
rows.
According
to
the
structural
grid
of
the
house,
which
you'll
see
in
a
moment.
D
The
plant
palette
that
you
see
here
is
consistent
with
out
of
the
desert,
Palisades
specific
plan
and
is
basically
a
naturalized
naturalized
landscape
with
a
few
areas
of
specific
gardens
that
the
applicant
is
that
you
can
see
actually
in
the
green
areas
on
this
plan
that
provide
a
interesting
contrast
of
formality
to
the
random
rough
rugged
condition
of
the
site.
This
is
the
aerial
view
of
the
from
the
roof.
You'll
see,
there's
the
photovoltaic
panels
and
the
panels
will
be
lined
closely
with
the
roof,
so
they
will
not
need
to
be
screening.
D
You'll
note
in
the
desert,
Palisades
by
the
very
nature
that
you
have
about
a
twenty
six
page
or
so
staff
report,
there's
a
lot
of
findings
and
a
lot
of
guidelines
that
these
homes
and
desert
Palisades
need
to
be
evaluated
against,
and
one
of
them
is
to
to
assure
that
the
home
is
is
fitting
into
the
natural
topography
there.
In
a
way.
That
is
as
neutral
and
unobtrusive
as
possible,
and
we
believe
it
has
achieved
that,
through
its
the
breakdown
of
the
massing
that
you
see
here,
you
see,
site
sections.
D
D
Another
section
showing
the
way
that
the
home
is
line
and
line
and
excuse
me
aligned
with
those
stem
walls
here,
are
the
elevations,
the
one
that
you're
seeing
on
the
top
is
what
we
essentially
would
refer
to
as
the
East
one
on
the
bottom
is
the
west
that
bottom
elevation
you'll
notice
the
glass
toward
the
left
side
of
that
elevation.
That's
the
area
that
the
AC
asked
the
applicant
to
consider
another
tree,
and
that
is
where
the
additional
tree
was
placed
here.
D
D
I'm
sorry,
the
board
formed
concrete
that
will
form
much
of
the
walls
in
the
poured
concrete
that
you
see
on
the
project.
This
was
a
shade
study
that
the
applicant
did
to
demonstrate.
Although
this
home
has
a
considerable
amount
of
fenestration
and
glazing
facing
toward
the
south
and
east,
their
solar
studies
confirmed
for
them
that
they
would
have
adequate
shade
on
those
on
that
large
amount
of
southeasterly
facing
glazing.
This
particular
image
you
see
at
the
top.
D
These
are
three-dimensional
renderings
that
help
kind
of
convey
the
massing
of
the
home.
It's
interesting
to
see
these
model
today
is
the
first
time
I've
seen
it,
and
it's
it's
very
interesting
for
me
to
see
that
model,
because
I've
sort
of
understood
this
home
from
these
drawings
and
it's
rather
exciting
to
see
it
in
its
three-dimensional
form.
I
think
the
other
thing
I
can
point
out
to
you
here.
D
The
lower
image
gives
you
more
or
less
what
the
street
view
is
going
to
be
like,
and
there
you
see
how
the
applicant
has
stepped
the
the
entry
up
to
the
home
in
response
to
the
topography
of
the
site,
and
then
they've
introduced
some
weathered
steel
panel
planters
that
will
also
bring
in
some
of
the
formal
landscape,
in
contrast
with
sort
of
national
ruggedness
of
the
site.
This
is
the
view
we
asked
them
to
provide
to
show
how
this
particular
home
will
be
viewed
from
the
lot
above
it.
As
I
noted
in
my
introduction.
D
This
home
has
open
space
toward
the
east
of
it,
but
toward
the
west
of
it.
There
is
a
lot,
and
this
is
the
view
that
you
would
see
generally
from
that
uphill
lot.
We
don't
know
what
the
pad
elevation
would
be
of
that
new
house,
but
I've
asked
them
to
show
this
as
though
it
was
a
a
mean
or
an
average
elevation
that
a
floor
might
be
placed
on
that
site.
So
this
gives
you
a
sense
of
how
that
home
and
the
views
around
it
are
imagined
when
this
thing
is
built.
D
These
are
images
of
the
site.
Obviously,
most
of
you
know,
desert
Palisades
is
a
incredibly
beautiful
part
of
the
city,
and
the
applicant
is
they've.
Looked
at
this
site
have
worked
to
keep
that
natural
condition
in
place
as
much
as
possible,
more
visions
or
views
of
the
existing
site,
and
then
this
is
simply
a
perspective
image
of
the
of
the
project
and
that's
all
the
images
I
have
getting
back
to
the
staff
report.
Briefly,
I,
don't
want
to
go
through
all
of
these
tables,
but
the
tables
are.
D
The
evaluation
of
this
project
gets
all
the
guidelines
of
the
hillside,
ordinance
architectural
review,
the
ESA
SP
ordinance,
the
guidelines
of
the
desert,
Palisades
specific
plan
and
I.
Think
that's
it
that's
plenty.
So
we
are
recommending
approval
of
the
project
we
believe
it
does
conform
with
the
various
guidelines
that
are
required
for
this
area
and
the
applicant
is
in
the
audience
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have,
and
I
am
here
to
answer
your
questions
as
well.
Thank
you.
Do.
A
People
have
questions
of
staff.
Before
we
have
the
applicant
come
up.
Commissioner
Hudson
was
the
first
to.
E
Thank
you
can
I'm
gonna
be
making
comments,
obviously,
when
it's
appropriate,
but
my
question
pertains
to
landscape
and
specifically
the
desert
Palisades
specific
plan
in
terms
of
landscaping,
my
question
being
pertaining
to
view
preservation,
what
view
preservation?
E
D
B
Not
an
architect
but
I'm
think
I
understand
the
concept
of
a
stem
wall.
But
my
question
is:
how
are
these
symbols
placed
on
the
site
and
my
particular
concern
would
be
with
this
Buddhist
placement
of
a
stem
wall
in
a
certain
location,
prevent
the
natural
drainage
off
the
site,
or
are
they
all
aligned
to
the
point
where
they
will
be
in
in
concert
with
the
flow
of
the
water
off
the
site
to.
D
It's
it's
dug
out
in
order
to
provide
the
area
for
the
footing
it's
going
to
have
formwork
and
reinforcing
bars
that
actually
are
then
poured
into
that
site.
The
intent
you
know
with
the
notion
of
doing
it
as
a
stem
wall
concept
instead
of
a
slab
on
grade,
was
to
reduce
the
amount
of
grading
and
excavating
that
would
be
necessary
on
the
site
and
in
response
to
the
question
on
site
drainage.
B
That
the
retention
area-
that's
marked
on
the
site
plan
that
you're
talking
about.
Yes,
we
just
have
one
one
other
question
with
respect
to
one
of
the
requirements
for
the
standards
for
desert
Palisades
with
respect
to
the
garage
than
carports,
it
says
orient
garage
doors
away
from
the
street
and
open
to
an
auto
Court.
Now,
in
looking
at
the
entry
of
this
house,
I
see
where
there
is
an
auto
court
in
front
of
the
garage
door,
but
the
garage
door
is
still
as
I
would
understand
it
oriented
to
the
street
it's
facing
the
street.
That's.
D
Correct
Commissioner
Don
felt-
and
this
was
discussed
at
the
AAC
meeting
as
well.
The
way
that
this
is
intended
to
appear,
the
the
house
as
I
may
have
mentioned,
is
clad
in
weathered
steel
or
the
proprietary
name
is
core
10,
which
is
designed
to
oxidize
and
rust.
The
garage
door
is
actually
clad
in
that
same
core
10
steel
or
weathered
steel.
So,
while
yes,
it
is
in
a
sectional
overhead
door,
it's
going
to
appear
as
though
it's
any
other
planar
surface
of
the
home.
D
The
planter
that
you
see
here
in
front
of
this,
which
is
ghosted
in
so
that
you
can
understand
how
the
rest
of
that
motor
court
lies,
will
provide
some
screening
of
the
slab
area
from
the
street.
So
you
won't,
you
won't
be
experiencing
an
enormous
expanse
of
concrete,
but
you
will
see
the
garage
door,
but
it
will
appear
as
though
it's
any
other
surface
within
the
home.
So.
B
D
B
D
A
A
D
A
In
terms
of
the
just
in
terms
of
their
conditions,
the
they
were
concerned
about
the
mechanical
equipment
being
tucked
under
on
one
of
the
sides
of
the
building.
Has
that
condition
been
addressed?
Is
it
pulled
out
to
some
extent
so
that
it's
not
underneath
the
building
I
think
it
was
pool
equipment?
Yes,.
D
That's
correct
and
it
was
actually
the
condensing
units
that
they
were
concerned
about
and
both
the
condensing
equipment
and
the
McCurry
go
on
the
top
elevation
there.
On
the
right
side,
you
see
those
two
little
squares,
those
are
the
condensing
units
and,
as
you
can
see,
they're
really
now
partially
tucked
under,
but
they
mostly
are
open
to
the
atmosphere
in
order
for
those
things
to
function
properly.
Thank.
A
You
and
the
applicant
will
be
able
to
tell
us
more
about
the
changed
pattern
for
the
fencing
that
wasn't
discussed.
You
discussed
that
they
were
changing
the
pattern
that
we
there's
a
meandering
pattern.
That's
shown
on
the
second
page
of
the
drawings,
which
was
the
original
pattern
that
they
were
discussing.
Is
that
still
the
way
the
fencing
would
be
placed
actually.
D
F
First
of
all,
I
want
to
just
basically
say
that
I
appreciate
commissioner
Hudson
and
Donna
felts
questions.
I,
think
that
they're
right
on
and
questions
I
had
as
well
I
think
that
I
had
one
other
question
and
I
think
you're,
probably
getting
the
rendering
is.
If
you
could
actually
point
out
where
the
fence
is
on
the
model
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is:
we've
seen
examples
of
this
fence
in
other
locations.
F
When
one
location
it
looks
like
it's
a
skyscraper
and
the
other
location,
it
looks
like
it's
way
low,
so
you
get
this
huge
undulating
thing
that
doesn't
always
it
looks
very
odd
and
in
some
cases
those
fences,
our
building
Department
is
required.
Those
fences
to
be
on
top
of
boulders
not
nests
in
if
there's
a
restriction
instead
of
moving
the.