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From YouTube: Planning Commission Study Session | June 7 2023
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Study Session of the City of Palm Springs Planning Commission, held June 7th, 2023
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D
Thank
you
again
for
allowing
me
to
speak
because
I
have
another
appointment.
My
name
is
evening:
I
am
addressing
as
president
of
the
Palm
Springs
hospitality
and
Restaurant
Association
and
chairman
of
PS
results,
two
organizations
that
represent
tourism,
the
largest
contributors
to
the
Palm
Springs
economy.
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We
are
pleased
to
see
that
progress
is
being
made
on
the
stalled
Palm
Springs
West
Valley
campus
for
College
of
the
Desert
for
the
past
two
decades.
Our
businesses
have
contributed
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
for
the
bonds.
The
Palm
Springs
campus
is
the
perfect
location
to
provide
opportunities
for
our
Coachella
Valley
students.
D
The
campus
is
across
the
street
from
Palm
Springs
High
School
walking
distance
in
the
police
station
for
students
interested
in
public
safety,
training,
walking
distance
to
the
sports
Stadium
walking
distance
to
the
Coachella
Valley
Economic
partnership,
Innovation
Hub.
As
for
the
students
seeking
management
careers
in
the
tourism
and.
A
Tara
with
that,
we
are
closing
the
public
comment
section.
We
are
now
in
a
discussion
and
an
update
on
preliminary
plans
for
the
College
of
the
Desert
West
Valley
Palm
Springs
campus,
a
proposed
176
000
square
foot
facility
located
on
a
27-acre
site
at
2363,
east
east
tuckwitz
way,
can
I
have
a
staff
report,
please
and
I
believe
a
report
from
the
group.
That's
working
on
this
from
the
from
the
college.
G
So,
if
you'll
excuse
me
I'm
going
to
present
from
here
at
the
microphone
and
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
understand
that
we
want
to
have
a
robust
discussion
about
the
site
plan
for
the
campus
as
we
go
through
this
I'll
go
ahead
and
make
my
presentation
go
through
the
proposed
site
plan
for
the
campus.
The
Planning
Commission
will
then
have
comments,
and
then,
after
that,
we'll
turn
it
over
to
all
of
you
who
would
like
to
make
comments
on
the
proposed
site
plan.
G
G
That
project
management
team
consists
of
Dr
Scott
Adkins
who's,
the
director
of
West
Valley
campuses
for
the
College
of
the
Desert
and
Dr
Adkins.
If
you
could
just
raise
your
hand
he's
right
here
with
us
this
evening.
Also
on
the
project
management
team
is
Robert
Rausch
from
the
mass
companies.
They
will
be
the
ones
who
are
responsible
for
building
the
campus
and
then
three
representatives
from
the
cities
that
will
be
benefiting
from
the
campus.
We
have
mayor
Rita
Lam
from
Cathedral
city
mayor
lamb,
has
a
background
in
education.
G
So
it's
very
beneficial
to
have
her
on
this
project
management
team
and
then
we
also
have
Daniel
porus
from
the
city
of
Desert
Hot
Springs
who's,
their
Deputy
city
manager.
His
background
is
engineering,
so,
as
he's
reviewed,
the
plans
he's
been
very
helpful
in
offering
comments
from
that
perspective,
and
then
I
was
asked
to
be
the
representative
for
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
on
the
deputy
city
manager
with
the
city.
My
background
is
in
urban
planning
and
architecture,
and
so
that's
what
I
bring
to
the
group.
G
Those
meetings
have
been
open
and
available
to
the
public
and
we
have
had
some
members
of
the
public
attend
those
but,
as
they've
been
held
in
Palm
Desert
I
can
understand
that
it's
been
a
little
bit
tough
for
Palm
Springs
residents
to
attend
those
meetings.
Hence
the
reason
that
we
wanted
to
have
you
all
here
tonight
in
order
to
provide
the
opportunity
for
you
all
to
be
able
to
see
the
plans
and
comment
on
them
as
well.
G
G
One
of
the
things
to
understand
is
that
college
campuses
just
like
high
schools,
elementary
schools
are
not
subject
to
local
regulation,
and
so
they
don't
have
to
go
through
our
building
department
or
through
our
planning
department
for
review
and
approval.
They
go
straight
to
the
St,
the
department
of
the
state
architect
for
approvals.
So
even
though
we
don't
have
jurisdiction
over
this
project,
again,
I
think
it's
very
beneficial
for
us
to
be
able
to
have
the
opportunity
to
comment
on
the
site
plan
and
offer
our
thoughts.
G
One
of
the
reasons
why
I
wanted
to
do
that
before
the
Planning
Commission
is
the
Planning.
Commission
is
a
city
agency
that
has
responsibility
and
expertise
in
reviewing
site
plans
and
so
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
had
the
comments
of
our
Planning
Commission,
in
addition
to
comments
from
our
residents
and
our
nearby
property
owners
in
terms
of
the
design
of
the
campus,
and
so
that's
why
we
are
involving
them
as
well,
despite
the
fact
that
they
don't
need
our
approval
agencies
such
as
College
of
the
Desert
and
other
universities
colleges.
G
Schools
are
requested
to
work
with
local
jurisdictions,
they've
already
reached
out
to
our
engineering
department
in
terms
of
looking
at
traffic
impacts,
the
availability
of
utilities
and
how
it
will
integrate
within
our
existing
system,
and
so
they
are
already
doing
that
and
again,
your
participation
this
evening
is
how
they
are
bringing
you
into
the
process.
For
this,
as
I
had
mentioned,
all
of
the
comments
that
we're
taking
this
evening
will
be
forwarded
to
the
project
management,
team
and
College
of
the
Desert
for
consideration
at
their
next
meeting
on
June
14th.
G
That
is
also
a
public
meeting.
It
will
be
held
in
Palm
Desert
if
anyone
wants
to
attend
that
meeting,
you're
more
than
welcome
to
join
they'll
have
public
comment
available
there
too.
So
this
isn't
your
last
chance
there's
also
one
more
chance
to
to
offer
your
input
as
we
talk
about
the
college,
campus
I
just
want
to
remind
everyone
that
we're
focusing
on
the
design
of
the
campus
site
we're
not
getting
into
other
issues
such
as
academic
programs,
while
that
plays
a
part
of
determining
what
buildings
they
need
to
offer
on
the
campus.
G
With
that,
let
me
go
ahead
and
get
into
kind
of
the
foundation
for
the
design
of
the
campus
in
determining
guiding
principles
or
factors
that
should
be
considered
as
part
of
the
campus
design.
The
Board
of
Trustees
and
the
College
of
the
Desert
team
looked
at
a
number
of
different
things.
For
example,
they
wanted
the
project
to
be
focused
on
students
and
Student
Activities.
They
wanted
it
to
be
highly
flexible
in
terms
of
its
spaces
so
that
they
could
be
used
for
a
variety
of
activities.
G
G
They
also
wanted
to
be
mindful
of
its
architecture
and
future
expansion
opportunities
and,
as
we
get
into
the
site
plan,
you'll
see
that
there
are
opportunities
for
future
phases
of
the
college
to
expand
I'm
going
to
show
you
the
site
plan.
As
we
begin
to
talk
about
the
needs
of
the
campus,
what
type
of
buildings
they
need,
what
type
of
facilities
they
need,
and
so
I'm
just
going
to
generally
speak
about
that
with
you
I'm
going
to
start
with
building
one
and
I'll,
try
and
point
to
that.
G
That's
here
at
the
corner
of
Farrell
and
baristo.
Let
me
just
help
Orient
you
a
little
bit.
The
campus
lies
between
whoops.
Sorry,
if
I
can
point
this
in
the
right
direction.
Tahquitz
Canyon
here
on
the
North
feral
here
on
the
east
baristo
on
the
south,
and
then
we
have
our
residential
neighborhood
to
the
West
so
going
to
building
number
one.
This
is
called
the
accelerator
building.
It's
going
to
house
a
number
of
different
programs
and
I'll
get
into
that
in
just
a
minute.
Moving
upward,
we
have
building
number
two
which
is
also
facing
feral.
G
They
have
two
additional
buildings
that
are
teamed
here
towards
the
West
End
of
the
site
and
that's
going
to
be
their
maintenance
and
operations
facility,
as
well
as
their
Central
utility
plant
and
then
down
here
at
the
bottom
number.
Seven
is
the
Palm
Springs
Cultural
Center
that
will
remain
in
its
current
position,
we'll
share
parking
and
Facilities
with
the
College
of
the
Desert,
and
so
that
remains
a
part
of
this
overall
campus.
G
So
with
that
basic
understanding
of
the
campus
in
mind,
let
me
talk
first
about
the
accelerator
building
that
will
be
at
the
southeast
corner
of
the
site
at
Farrell
and
baristo.
This
building
is
approximately
95
000
square
feet
in
size
as
it's
currently
designed,
and
it's
intended
to
house
the
following
programs.
The
first
is
an
accelerated
learning
component,
which
would
include
group
study
rooms,
flexible
instruction,
space
and
then
also
student
support
services
and
academic
support.
G
It
will
also
house
the
PACE
program
and
I'm
embarrassed
to
admit
that
I
hadn't
heard
of
the
PACE
program
before
it's
their
partnership
and
Community
Education
Program,
and
what
it
does
is
it
partners
with
the
local
business
Community
to
train
employees
and
provide
them
with
the
skills
that
they
need
to
be
successful
in
their
careers.
It
also
serves
as
a
resource
for
emerging
Industries
and
emerging
instructional
programs
and
also
provides
lifelong
learning
for
area
residents,
and
so
it
encompasses
a
broad
number
of
opportunities,
including
career
skills,
as
well
as
continuing
education
for
community
members.
G
In
addition
to
those
two
programs,
there
will
also
be
a
digital
arts
and
media
program
that
will
include
a
radio
station
and
have
screening
rooms
as
well
as
production
facilities.
There
will
be
a
center
for
excellence
in
health
care,
which
will
include
not
only
the
student
health
center,
but
also
Labs
teaching,
space
control
rooms
and
then,
finally,
it
will
also
house
the
architecture
program.
G
G
The
third
building
along
the
feral
Frontage
is
an
event
center.
It's
scheduled
to
be
about
23
000
square
feet.
They
had
originally
indicated
that
it
might
include
an
Amphitheater
as
I
understand
that
the
amphitheater
is
no
longer
going
to
be
a
part
of
this
first
phase
of
the
campus.
Is
that
correct,
Dr,
Adkins?
Okay?
G
So
no
longer
the
amphitheater
to
be
considered
here,
the
Event
Center
is
going
to
be
an
outgrowth
of
the
culinary
program
in
that
it
can
be
used
for
The
Culinary
students
as
a
training
facility,
but
will
also
offer
event
space
banquet
rooms,
Etc.
That
will
be
available
not
only
for
college
functions
but
also
available
to
community
functions
as
well,
and
then
the
final
component
as
part
of
the
campus
is
their
Central
utility
plant
and
maintenance.
G
So
the
layout
of
the
campus
is
basically
similar,
but
one
of
the
critical
things
that
was
removed
by
the
Board
of
Trustees
was
a
learning
Hotel.
Originally
they
wanted
to
have
a
full-scale
facility
to
use
as
part
of
their
Hospitality
Management
program,
but
in
looking
at
the
overall
needs
of
the
campus
they
have
since
removed
that
from
the
design.
G
Another
change
from
the
2021
plan
was
to
relocate
The
Event
Center.
Originally
it
was
intended
to
be
more
towards
the
center
of
the
campus,
but
looking
at
the
site
after
they
had
removed
the
hotel
facility,
it
helps
to
reinforce
that
corner
at
Tahquitz
and
Farrell,
and
so
they
decided
to
move
the
Event
Center
to
that
space
and
it
gives
kind
of
a
landmark
building
at
that
very
important
Corner,
as
people
are
coming
from
the
airport.
G
Another
change
is
that
the
maintenance
and
operations
building
which
was
originally
backed
by
the
Palm
Springs
Cultural
Center,
was
combined
with
the
central
utility
plant
and
they
have
since
been
relocated
to
the
central
West
part
of
the
campus
site
so
going
into
the
site
plan.
Let
me
go
into
those
individual
components
as
it
exists
today.
As
I
had
indicated,
we
have
the
accelerator
building
here
at
the
southeast
corner
of
the
campus,
with
the
hospitality
and
Event
Center
here
along
Farrell.
G
There
is
a
large
vacant
area
here
along
talk
with
that's
what
we
anticipate
would
serve
for
future
expansion
plans
of
the
campus.
We've
got
the
maintenance
and
operations
and
Central
utility
plant
there,
and
then
the
Palm
Springs
Cultural
Center
here
going
into
additional
detail
about
the
site
plan
itself.
The
first
image
that
you
see
here
is
relative
to
the
circulation
plan
for
vehicles
on
the
campus
site.
There
are
three
primary
entrance
points
on
the
campus
site.
We
have
two
existing
centralized
traffic
signals.
One
is
here
at
Sunset
Drive
and
talk
wits,
which
already
exists.
G
The
campus
planners
have
also
looked
at.
Where
will
people
be
dropped
off
and
picked
up?
There's
a
number
of
those
locations
here
at
the
interior
of
the
site
along
the
primary
axis
for
the
three
buildings,
as
well
as
a
Mobility
Hub,
which
I'll
talk
about
in
just
a
moment,
so
not
only
considering
vehicle
access.
They
also
took
a
look
at
pedestrian
access
and,
in
particular,
pedestrian
access
from
public
transportation,
the
idea
being
to
support
students
who
will
be
arriving
by
Sun
Lines.
There
is
an
existing
bus
stop
on
feral.
G
The
intent
is
to
move
it
further
to
the
South
closer
to
the
accelerator
building,
and
then
also
there
will
be
a
bus
stop
here
on
baristo
that
will
be
part
of
the
mobility
Hub
and
so
looking
at
how
those
two
bus
stops
relate
to
the
buildings.
They've
looked
at
the
average
walk
time
from
those
bus
stops
to
the
various
campus
facilities
in
terms
of
planning
how
pedestrians
will
access
the
buildings,
how
students
will
access
those
buildings.
G
Another
thing
that
they
looked
at
was
bicycle
circulation,
because
that's
going
to
be
another
component
as
well
taking
access
from
the
city's
bike
Lanes,
how
will
people
arrive
on
the
campus
site?
You
will
see
that
bikes
will
be
able
to
enter
the
campus
at
those
three
same
points
as
vehicle
traffic
will,
but
they
will
have
bicycle
parking
that
is
closer
adjacent
to
the
main
buildings
on
the
campus,
as
well
as
adjacent
to
the
mobility
Hub
and
then
also
providing
bicycle
parking
close
to
the
event
center
as
well.
G
One
of
the
considerations
that
we've
offered
at
previous
meetings
of
the
project
management
team
is
to
take
into
consideration
shading
from
the
parking
lot
and
in
the
parking
lot
itself,
so
that
it's
a
comfortable
Journey
for
pedestrians
to
the
buildings,
and
so
that's
something
that
has
been
discussed.
We'd
like
to
get
your
feedback
and
input
on
that
tonight.
G
The
campus
will
be
essentially
all
electric,
except
for
the
areas
where
they'll
need
gas
for
the
kitchen
cooking
equipment
and
their
science
labs.
They
also
intend
to
have
a
large
component
of
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
they're
looking
at
water
usage,
they're
landscaping
and
other
components
into
how
they
can
reduce
the
water
usage
for
the
campus
itself
and
then,
ultimately,
one
of
the
things
that
they'd
like
to
do
is
apply
for
lead
certification.
For
those
of
you
who
aren't
familiar,
it's
leadership
in
Energy,
Efficiency
and
design.
G
And
so
this
is
something
that's
integrated
into
the
campus
design
as
well,
and
something
that
I
thought
was
just
kind
of
an
unusual
component
that
isn't
usually
thought
about.
As
we
look
at
a
campus
design
with
that.
Let
me
go
ahead
and
show
you
some
of
the
images
that
we
have
of
the
campus
and
the
buildings
to
date.
Keep
in
mind
that
these
are
still
in
the
schematic
phase.
G
They
haven't
been
finalized,
but
it
helps
to
give
you
an
idea
of
the
general
Mass
scene
and
the
height
of
the
buildings,
as
well
as
their
location,
their
setback
from
the
adjacent
streets
and
their
position
on
the
site.
Here
you
have
an
aerial
from
feral
drive
here
in
the
foreground
of
the
image.
This
is
feral
along
here.
This
is
one
of
the
primary
entrance
points
here
at
the
midpoint
of
the
campus
on
Farrell.
The
accelerator
building
is
here:
The,
Culinary
and
Hospitality
building
is
here
and
then
their
Event
Center
building
is
here.
G
I'll,
try
and
remember
to
point
that
out
to
you,
so
they
will
have
service
accessing
from
feral
Drive.
They
are
screening
that
area
and
are
encouraged
to
make
that
an
integrated
component
of
the
building.
So
it's
a
friendly
Frontage
instead
of
looking
directly
into
a
service
yard,
and
so
screening
will
be
a
very
important
component
of
that
here's
another
view
of
the
accelerator
building.
This
is
looking
from
baristo,
where
we
will
have
the
mobility
Hub.
G
The
mobility
Hub
will
have
spaces
for
buses
to
have
bus
stops,
as
well
as
a
location
for
Rideshare,
Vehicles,
Lyft
Uber
to
drop
off
students
or
other
visitors
to
the
campus,
and
so
this
is
a
view
from
baristo.
Looking
back
towards
the
accelerator
building,
you'll
also
notice
on
this
side
of
the
building,
there's
a
generous
canopy
overhang
and
in
particular
this
overhang
on
the
west
side
of
the
building,
which
includes
a
canopy
over
the
primary
outside
circulation
for
the
campus
buildings,
so
that
students
are
protected
from
the
Sun
along
that
Frontage.
G
Here's
a
close-up
of
the
entry,
the
West
Entry
to
the
accelerator,
building
you'll
notice,
the
amount
of
glazing
that
is
contained
there
along
that
Frontage
of
the
building.
This
is
the
primary
entry
with
a
grand
staircase
going
up
to
the
second
level
of
the
building
and
again
the
Shaded
walkway
that
occurs
along
the
west
face
of
the
buildings
on
the
campus.
There
here
is
an
image
of
The
Culinary
Institute,
as
well
as
the
Event
Center.
This
is
looking
from
inside
the
campus.
G
The
design
team
has
provided
a
number
of
preliminary
sections
through
the
building.
What
this
helps
to
do
is
to
tell
us
about
the
proposed
height
of
the
buildings
in
terms
of
how
they
function.
This
is
a
section
looking
through
the
accelerator.
Building.
The
primary
height
of
the
accelerator
building
is
going
to
be
35
feet
here.
G
You'll
notice
that
there
is
a
one-story
component
facing
feral,
that's
going
to
be
24
feet,
and
then
they
do
have
mechanical
screening
up
here
on
top
of
the
roof,
and
that
comes
to
a
maximum
of
51
feet,
and
so
the
majority
of
the
buildings
in
General
on
the
campus.
Those
that
are
two
stories
will
be
a
maximum
of
35
feet.
In
height.
There
will
be
some
portions
that
extend
up
to
51
feet
for
screening,
but
they're
generally
set
back
from
the
edge
of
the
canopy.
G
This
is
another
section
through
the
accelerator
building
showing
the
two-story
entrance
space
into
the
building.
Again,
the
major
area
is
35
feet
in
height
the
mechanical
equipment
up
on
the
roof
of
the
building,
with
its
screening
will
be
about
51
feet
in
height
and
then
finally,
through
the
North
End
of
the
campus.
Looking
at
the
culinary
building,
this
is
actually
mislabeled.
It
says
accelerator,
but
it's
the
culinary
and
Hospitality
building.
It
too
has
generally
a
maximum
35
foot
height
limit
here
with
the
continuation
of
the
canopy.
G
Another
thing
that
I
wanted
to
share
with
you
is
the
project
schedule
for
the
campus,
so
that
you
have
an
understanding
of
how
they'll
proceed
through
these
schematic
design,
design
development
and
then
construction
of
the
West
Valley
campus
and
I
apologize.
This
is
probably
extremely
hard
for
any
of
you
to
read
right
here.
G
Any
modifications
that
have
made
been
made
during
the
schematic
design
phase
will
then
be
developed
during
design
development
and
then
they'll,
move
on
to
construction
documents,
which
is
basically
their
building
permit,
set,
and
so
they'll
be
working
on
that
through
about
mid
2024
they'll
then
submit
to
the
state
architect
for
their
permits
and
approvals.
They
anticipate
obtaining
approval
from
The
Office
of
the
State
architect
towards
the
endpoint
of
2024,
and
then,
with
that
they'll
begin
into
the
construction
phase
in
late
2024.
G
That
will
start
with
the
grading
of
the
site,
the
initial
infrastructure
on
the
site
and
then
eventually
they'll
move
down
to
the
actual
construction
of
the
buildings
themselves,
the
idea
being
that
in
early
2025
they
would
start
construction
of
the
buildings
and
then
complete
construction
by
2026..
I.
Just
want
to
note
that
this
is
their
tentative
schedule
to
date,
sometimes
along
the
way.
There
are
issues
that
may
prevent
that,
but
that's
giving
you
a
general
timeline
of
what
we
anticipate
for
the
schedule
at
this
point
in
time.
G
So
with
that.
That
concludes
my
presentation.
One
of
the
things
I
did
want
to
do.
I
want
to
leave
the
site
plan
up
on
the
screen
so
as
that
you're
offering
comments
we'll
have
that
up
and
available
for
you
all
to
look
at
and
then
finally,
I
wanted
to
point
out
one
thing
that
I
failed
to
show
you
earlier
in
the
presentation,
and
that
was
the
the
delivery
yards
that
they
have
here
for
the
culinary
and
Hospitality
Institute.
G
Basically,
it's
a
screened
area
here
on
the
feral
Frontage
shown
in
Gray,
and
that
does
have
a
driveway
from
feral
here
and
then
there's
also
a
second
area
here
for
the
accelerator
building
that
will
also
be
screened.
The
area
shown
in
Gray
is
basically
that
support
area
with
the
driveway
off
of
feral
as
well
so
I
just
wanted
to
point
those
out
since
I
missed
that
in
one
of
the
earlier
slides
on
the
presentation.
H
G
H
I'm,
not
okay,
it's
hard
to
read
so
we're
calling
that
a
drop
area.
So
that's
where
all
deliveries
for
culinary
will
be
okay,
so
we
anticipate
a
lot
of
truck
use
in
that
area
Okay
and
then
on
building
one.
We
have
a
similar
situation.
Correct,
yes,
okay,
another
quick
question:
phasing
I
couldn't
read
the
schedule.
H
G
H
I'm
sorry
I
misheard,
you
I
thought
you
said
they
intended
to
start
the
end
of
24..
Okay,
thank
you
so
in
in
looking
at
this
and
trying
to
remember
I
I,
remember
the
first
iteration
pretty
well,
because
it
got
a
lot
of
press.
The
second
iteration
that
happened.
I,
don't
remember
that!
Well,
but
it
looks
to
me
I
know
the
project
went
back
to
the
original
Architects.
It
looks
to
me
like
we
rolled
back
to
a
lot
of
what
was
originally
proposed.
G
Yes,
it
does
look
very
similar,
the
hotel
was
omitted
and
with
that
they
moved
the
Event
Center
up
to
where
the
hotel
had
been
so
as
you're.
Looking
at
the
footprint
of
the
campus,
it's
very
similar,
it's
obviously
smaller
with
the
omission
of
the
hotel,
but
it
is
very
similar
as
you
look
at
the
East
side
of
the
campus
along
Farrell
in.
H
Terms
of
its
layout,
thank
you
so
much
I
remember
when
Vibe
came
before
us,
I
think
Kathy
and
I
were
we've
been
serving
on
the
Planning
Commission
for
what
seems
like
a
lifetime
now
and
when
Vibe
came
through
I.
Remember
if
I've
anticipated
the
College
of
the
Desert,
because
we
were
already
talking
about
it,
then,
and
in
fact,
I
recall
that
we
gave
them
gated
parking
because
of
this
and
they
anticipated
having
this
across
the
street.
And
when
you
look
at
the
design,
you
can
see
that
they
did
for
vibe.
That
is
so.
H
I
have
positive
comments.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
say
that
it's
a
very,
very
attractive
design.
It
doesn't
feel
institutional
in
any
way.
It
feels
very
welcoming
to
me
it
the
use
of
materials
and
the
the
colors
and
the
Landscaping
look
like
they'll
work
really
well
for
the
site
and
for
the
intended
uses.
H
H
I
won't
speak
to
numbers
of
parking
and
things
like
that,
because
we'll
leave
that
to
Engineers
I
was
also
very
impressed
with
this
sustainability
plan.
It
looks
like
it
was
well
thought
out
and
and
along
with
the
overall
scale
and
balance,
it
feels
like
it's
just
going
to
be
a
nice
place
and
a
good
place
to
go
and
learn
and
a
welcoming
place
for
the
community.
H
E
Yeah
I
I'm
gonna
have
to
come
on
the
other
end
of
that
Spectrum.
So
I
was
thinking
about
what
what
about
an
academic
experience
gives
to
a
student
other
than
the
specific
learning
that
they've
enrolled
in,
and
one
of
those
things
to
me
is
the
chance
encounter
the
serendipitous
event
that
takes
place
when
two
people
or
a
group
of
people
meet
that.
Don't
really
expect
to
talk
to
each
other.
That
kind
of
interaction
where
you're,
exchanging
ideas
and
I
would
hope
that
this
campus
would
promote
that.
E
But
I
want
to
just
talk
about
what
an
architectural
party
is.
It's
the
organizing
principle
for
basically
a
site
plan
and,
as
you
know,
you're
you
start
looking
at
this
Blank
Slate
there's
a
streets
on
the
perimeter,
but
it's
a
big
flat
site
and
you
could
think
about
different
parties.
There
could
be
a
big
circle
like
the
Apple
campus.
It
could
be
a
series
of
multiple
Courtyards.
It
could
be
individual,
freestanding,
pods
kind
of
scattered
in
a
landscape.
It
could
even
be
vertical
where
you
stack
each
academic
unit
on
top
of
each
other.
E
It
could
be
a
grid
of
streets.
What
what?
What
I
look
at
here
I
see
a
linear
partee,
that
is,
the
buildings,
are
lined
up
in
a
long
line
across
the
perimeter
of
the
site
and
to
me
that
you
you're
not
fostering
the
kind
of
interactions
I
describe
those
serendipitous
chants
encounters
where
you're
able
to
communicate
with
people
that
you
wouldn't
normally
come
across
in
your
academic
setting
and
so
losing
that
serendipitous
interaction
because
of
the
linear
placement
of
the
buildings.
E
Think
of
it
as
a
street,
with
buildings
only
on
one
side
of
the
street
and
and
you're
not
concentrating
that
energy
in
any
place
and
I
you're
also
losing
the
visual
stimuli
that
could
accompany
that
sort
of
organization
where
you
might
have
that
teaching
kitchen
prominently
displayed
for
people
to
walk
by
and
you're,
not
in
that
program.
But
you
see
the
activity
and
the
energy
you
might
become
interested
in
it
or
you
might
become
interested
in
somebody.
E
That's
doing
that
to
have
that
conversation
about
what
they're
doing,
there's
and
then
also
the
radio
program
could
or
the
digital
communication
program
could
could
Foster
that
sort
of
thing
too.
If
it
was
highly
visible,
there's
there's
no
Central
Focus
to
this
design.
It's
a
linear
design
with
individual
units
spread
across
the
length
of
that
perimeter.
E
I
also
think
the
design
Fosters
a
commuter
School
mentality,
where
somebody's
going
to
drive
to
the
school,
take
the
bus
to
the
school,
walk
to
the
school
bike
to
the
school.
Do
their
business
they're
going
to
get
in
the
door,
that's
closest
to
their
academic
unit
and
Scoot
out
and
back
out
into
the
parking
lot.
The
bus
stop
or
whatever
us
so
I
think
the
design
as
presented
does
Foster
a
commuter
School
mentality.
E
Then,
to
make
matters
worse,
they
decide
to
run
a
four-lane
roadway
through
the
middle
of
it.
Further
alienating
the
various
academic
components
from
each
other.
I
I.
Don't
expect
anybody
to
sit
up
and
say:
okay,
we're
going
to
redesign
this,
but
they
could
at
least
get
rid
of
that
four-lane
highway
to
a
roadway
dividing
it.
Why
wouldn't
that
be
used
for
a
pedestrian
usage?
You
have
adequate
vehicular
access
with
signaled
entry
points,
both
on
top
with
some
baristo.
E
E
And
these
are
just
specific
comments:
I
I,
looked
at
the
academic
disposition
again,
I,
don't
know
the
the
how
the
academic
units
are
going
to
function
necessarily,
but
I
did
focus
in
on
the
three
I
think
architectural
design
spaces,
and
they
they
looked
like
when
kind
of
run-of-the-mill
square
rooms.
They
didn't
have
any
to
me
anyway.
Maybe
I'm
wrong
about
this
architectural
interest
with
those
three
rooms.
E
I,
don't
think
you're
going
to
be
attracting
a
a
the
level
of
student
that
you
would
want
to
be
graduating
from
an
architectural
program
in
Palm
Springs.
That's
one
point,
the
other
point.
Another
point
I
want
to
make
is
I.
I
would
I,
don't
think
we're
going
to
see
an
expansion
in
this
on
this
campus
for
a
great
length
of
time
and
I'm,
hoping
there's
some
very
nice
depth
to
the
landscape
buffer
along
talk
with
you
know:
it's
our
main
street.
We
need
the
palm
trees.
E
E
It's
a
ridiculous
amount
of
parking
it
you
that's,
never
going
to
be
filled
up
with
those
buildings,
maybe
with
a
little
bit
more
buildings
up
a
long
talk
with
there's
a
chance,
but
boy
it
just
looks
like
I.
Don't
know
it
just
looks
like
way
too
much
parking
and
then
to
say
phase.
One
is
a
long
talk
wits!
Well,
that's
just
completely
ignores
whatever
you've
built
or
phase
two,
rather
that
just
completely
ignores
what
you've
built
in
Phase
One
there's.
E
If
you're
gonna
say
we've
accommodated
for
phase
two
it
it
would
need
to
have
some
relationship
to
the
buildings
in
phase
one
and
and
it
can't
where
it's
positioned
and
then
finally,
because
I'm,
just
an
old
curmudgeon,
the
overhangs
for
shading
purposes
are
too
high
they're
way
up
in
the
air
and
they're
going
to
allow
a
lot
of
sunlight
to
pour
into
and
under
those
overhangs,
so
I
would
recommend
a
maybe
a
secondary
canopy
under
the
I
mean
they're
very
attractive.
You
look
at
them.
I
Well,
this
will
work
well.
Let's
see,
I
have
I
share
some
of
the
comments
or
some
of
the
the
observations
of
my
fellow
Commissioners
regarding
the
architecture
I'm
just
about
as
impressed
with
it
overall,
as
the
vice
chair
was
I
also
have
really
strong
concerns
about
the
fundamental
layout
of
the
project.
It
feels
to
me
to
be
more
a
very
linear
experience,
almost
a
strip
mall
experience,
as
opposed
to
a
campus
where
we
get
together
and
talk
and
and
meet,
and
have
the
opportunity
to
walk
from
one
place
to
the
next.
I
I
note
that
in
none
of
the
renderings
I'll
start
with
bicycles,
first,
the
renderings
don't
anywhere
show
actually
bike
parking
or
bike
racks
or
people
right,
riding
bicycles.
It's
as
though
that's
kind
of
missed
altogether
and
I
think
that,
because
it
is
Central
in
the
city,
you
will
get
a
lot
of
people
if
you
just
make
it
convenient
for
them
to
arrive
on
a
bike.
I
If
the
sidewalks
for
pedestrians,
that
wind
through
the
site,
weren't
changed
or
instead
changed
or
widened
to
accommodate
both
bicyclists
and
pedestrians,
I
think
people
would
be
more
comfortable
with
that.
You
also
want
to
be
able
to
ride
your
bicycle
right
to
the
front
entrance
of
wherever
you're
going
and
parking
at
near
the
building,
not
near
the
parking
lot,
where
people
with
trucks
will
come
and
take
it
away,
while
you're
in
class.
I
So
I
would
encourage
moving
the
accommodations
for
cyclists
closer
to
the
buildings
best
if
they
are
separated
from
the
pedestrians,
because
it's
a
little
bit
crowded,
I
notice
in
some
of
the
renderings
they
show.
These
sidewalks
are
wide
enough
for
two
pedestrians
and
that's
it
and
you
couldn't
bike
around
or
through
them,
so
either
adding
new
bike,
accommodations
closer
to
the
buildings
or
widening
the
ones
for
the
pedestrians
I
think
would
probably
be
a
good
approach
to
make
it
more
bicycle,
friendly.
I
Buses
at
what
I
think
we
call
the
mobility
center
on
baristo,
those
buses
all
arrive
with
if
it's
set
up
for
it
with
bicycles
on
the
front
of
them.
You
need
to
be
able
to
take
your
bike
off
the
bike,
rack
on
front
of
the
bus
and
immediately
ride
it
to
where
you're
going
without
having
to
dodge
your
way,
either
through
pedestrians
or
through
vehicles,
and
it
seems
like
we're
missing
those
accommodations,
so
I
think
that's
that's
an
area
that
could
be
enhanced
to
be
more
accommodating.
I
I
I
The
Pomona
school
has
the
I
always
call
it
the
center
for
sustainable
living.
I
think
that's
what
it
was
originally
called,
but
it's
been
retitled
I
wrote
it
down.
So
I
would
remember
the
Lyle
Center
for
regenerative
studies
where
they
have
productive.
Landscaping
worked
into
their
Landscaping
is
actual
actually
plants.
I
Take
a
look
at
it,
but
I
think
that
involving
a
garden
that
is
used
by
The,
Culinary
students
and
could
be
could
be
every
bit
as
interesting
and
educational
and
give
you
the
opportunities
you're
looking
for
for
having
education
Everywhere
by
letting
the
public
see
not
just
into
the
kitchen
where
people
are
cooking
but
into
the
landscape
material
that
is
used
that
actually
produces
sustenance
for
people
in
the
way
of
food,
so
I'd
say
food
for
thought.
But
that
sounds
like
a
really
bad
pun.
I
I
Okay,
I
just
finally
learned
how
to
outsmart
my
microphone.
Okay.
Originally,
this
has
been
an
area
with
a
lot
of
input
from
the
public
about
what
do
we
do
with
the
space?
That's
left
open
and
I've
Heard
lots
of
suggestions
and
I
originally
was
in
Vision
in
all
kinds
of
landscaping,
things
things
that
could
be
done
beautifully.
However,
as
I
look
at
cod's,
current
campus
and
I
recognize
how
expensive
it
is
to
maintain
Landscaping
and
how
easy
easily
that
budget
is
cut.
To
focus
on
education.
I
If
there's
something
that
they
can
engage
in
and
then
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
the
cost
of
watering
the
cost
of
pruning.
The
fact
that
things
are
overgrown
I
know
that
at
the
main
campus
it
calls
you
the
desert
in
Palm
Desert,
because
it's
state
land,
you
can't
have
Code
Compliance,
addressing
the
fact
that
the
Landscaping
is
substandard
and
really
needs
to
be
brought
up.
And
frankly,
the
college
has
a
hard
time
continuing
to
pay
for
the
maintenance
of
landscaping.
I
So
if
we
look
for
a
lower
plant
count
in
the
Landscaping
along
there
and
look
at
some
creative
opportunities,
I
think
we
might
get
something
that
better
suits
the
concept
of
this
being
vacant
for
a
long
time
to
come,
and
the
fact
that
we
do
have
people
driving
down
talk
what's
as
a
main
entrance
from
the
airport
and
wanting
to
have
a
pleasant
experience
and
interaction
with
the
college
there
and
at
that
point,
I.
Better
stop
talking.
C
You
Matt
thank
you,
madam
chair.
The
advantage
of
following
these
esteemed
colleagues
is
that
I
they've
covered
almost
everything,
but
I
also
have
the
opportunity
to
rebut
some
of
the
things
they
said
just
kidding,
I
would
say
overall,
I
think
the
design
character,
the
design
character
seems
attractive
and
appropriate
for
the
community
context.
C
I
would
like
to
address
the
main
comments
that
commissioner
Layin
and
commissioner
hirschbein
made
regarding
the
linear
sort
of
fabric
along
feral
and
I.
Think
with
the
relatively
limited
programs
that
are
being
offered
here,
I
think
I,
don't
know
that
we
can
expect
a
lot
more
in
terms
of
a
sort
of
a
true
campus
Vibe,
where
buildings
are
clustered
and
more
internalized.
C
I
think
it's
important
that
there
be
that
Urban
fabric
of
building
a
long
feral
and
in
the
future,
hopefully
not
too
far
in
the
future,
along
talk
with
so
I
think
in
general,
they've
done
a
relatively
good
job
of
treating
the
streetscape
of
feral.
Importantly
I
think
the
design
is
great.
I
would
like
to
take
issue
with
the
access
sort
of
on
feral
the
the
utility
access
service
access
along
feral,
I.
Think
what
you've
essentially
done
is
put
your
back
end,
so
to
speak
and
that's
putting
it
nicely
along
feral
and
I.
C
I'd!
Be
surprised
if
you
can
do
that
in
a
way
that
really
gives
the
appropriate
nod
to
feral
that
it
deserves
as
a
major
north-south
Corridor
in
the
city,
but
I
wait
to
see
more
detail,
I
guess
along
the
architecture
and
treatment
along
Farrell
I.
Think
if
nothing
more
an
internal
connection
between
those
service
areas
and
the
internal
vehicular
system
is
probably
appropriate
and
will
help
alleviate
some
of
the
concern
with
the
appearance
and
usage
along
feral
I.
C
There
I
think
you
need
to
be
sensitive
to
those
single-family
homes
facing
the
west
side
of
your
site
in
terms
of
tree
and
shrub
screening
and
noise
abatement,
a
wall
and
work
with
those
those
residents
to
find
an
appropriate
solution
for
that
I.
Don't
necessarily
have
a
problem
with
the
location
of
the
buildings.
C
Four
and
five
I
think
they're
far
enough
away
that
if
there's
a
an
appropriate
physical
barrier,
I
think
that
those
buildings
there,
four
and
five
shouldn't
be
in
Impact
to
the
residential
to
the
West
I,
am
concerned
with
what's
happening
to
the
vacant
area
on
Tahquitz
until
such
time
that
that
would
be
developed,
I
think
it's
some
up.
Some
options
could
be
to
provide
some
temporary
and
or
recurring
pop-up
type
of
uses
along
there,
similar
to
a
mini
version
of
the
this.
C
I
agree
with
commissioner
Lane
about
the
landscape
plan,
showing
only
50
percent
native
or
quote
adaptive
plant
material
I.
Think
that
number
I
think
that
neighbor
that
that
number
could
be
as
high
as
75
or
80
percent
as
well.
I
think
it
would
be
easy
to
do
and
appropriate,
given
our
water
restraints.
C
A
Thank
you.
Following
up
on
people's
comments,
I,
like
the
architecture
in
the
building,
I
thought
it
was
interesting
that
the
buildings
were
placed
on
feral
instead
of
chocolates
and
I
I'm.
Assuming
that's
because
there's
a
desire
to
have
a
view
of
the
mountains
from
the
campus
I
have
a
concern
with
the
four-lane
roadway
and
the
turn
in
there
and
I
was
wondering
if
our
city
engineer
has
looked
at
that
ferals
a
fairly
heavily.
Do
you
have
concerns
about
that?
J
Be
careful
how
I
answer
this,
the
schematics
of
of
the
driveway
on
Farrell?
We
haven't
seen
a
lot
of
it.
We
haven't
been
really
involved
in
a
lot
of
it
other
than
off-site
improvements
that
we've
had
discussions
with
the
Cod
staff
about,
but
the
four-lane
entryway
specifically
there's
ways
that
that
could
be
mitigated
to
you
know
maybe
perhaps
make
them
you
know
write
in
write
out.
What's
you
know
some
kind
of
a
turning?
J
J
That's
really
been
brought
up
as
far
as
how
to
mitigate
that,
because
this
was
in
such
flux,
we
weren't
sure
what
the
end
result
was
going
to
be,
but
it
is
something
that
we
can
talk
to
the
city
engineer
about
and
their
design
team
to
see
if
there's
some
way
to
mitigate
that,
so
that
you're,
you
know
softening
it
maybe
you're,
making
it
not
so
intrusive
onto
feral
I
think,
there's
a
an
easy
solution
to
get
there.
It's
just
up
until
just
recently
it
it
really
hasn't
been
something.
That's.
A
So
going
into
my
mind,
like
and
I
would
really
like
to
see
the
design
team
work
with
our
city
Engineers
on
that
entry
to
make
sure
that
if
we
have
it
it's
safe,
I,
don't
I
wouldn't
be
worried
about
entries
on
chocolates
and
on
baristo.
But
I
am
worried
there
on
the
west
side
of
the
property.
I
agree
with
commissioner
Miller
that
we
need
a
good
buffer
for
the
homes
that
are
on
the
west
side.
A
Think
that's
really
critical.
It's
a
beautiful
feature.
I
loved
it
when
I
saw
it,
but
I
I
have
personal
experience
with
having
designed
something
that
doesn't
work
as
long
on
my
house
as
long
as
I
need
it
to
work
and-
and
that
seems
to
me
the
space
and
that
space
is
really
important.
That
is
the
space
on
the
overhang
where
there
will
be
mingling,
I,
actually
think
the
accelerator
building.
A
Does
that
beautifully
too,
because
the
spaces
move
around
but
I
think
if
there's
outside
learning
it's
underneath
the
overhang
and
making
sure
that
that
space
is
Pleasant,
that
students
can
be
out
there
working
discussing
planning
having
their
meetings
most
of
the
year?
And
so
that's
probably
my
biggest
concern
on
I
completely
agree
with
my
fellow
Commissioners
about
the
50
percent:
drought,
tolerant
Landscaping.
The
city
has
been
requiring
I,
think
all
drought,
tolerant
in
new
buildings.
A
For
years
it
works,
it's
beautiful,
it
can
be
done
and
it
it'll
actually
be
cheaper
for
you
in
the
long
run,
I
agreed
with
some
of
the
comments
from
psaa
about
on
the
walkways.
If
there
are
walkways
and
I
agree
with
commissioner
Lane
about
sidewalks
bicycles
and
we
we
are
very
concerned
at
least
I'm
very
concerned
about
Urban
heat
and
ways
to
alleviate
Urban
heat
and
trees
are
our
cheapest
way
and
our
best
way
to
alleviate
Urban
heat.
A
So
if
you
spend
money
on
landscape
put
in
trees,
it
will
save
the
understory,
you
won't
be
replacing
plants
as
quickly
and
it
will
make
the
environment
Pleasant.
So
the
as
I
look
at
the
site
plan-
and
a
bit
of
this
is
thank
you
so
much
for
letting
us
comment
for
including
us
in
this.
We
really
appreciate
it.
We
really
want
this
campus.
A
We
wanted
to
succeed,
I'm
I'm,
hoping
that
the
way
you
designed
the
parking
was
kind
of
an
afterthought
and
you
threw
it
in
because
the
landscape
was
designed,
but
I
think
it's
probably
more
parking
than
you
need
and
you
could
have
more
walkways
there.
You
may
have
more
space,
but
give
give
that
plan.
Some
thought
and
some
more
thought
I
think
it
needs
it
on
the
space
along
talk
with
I.
A
Don't
have
great
comment,
I
think
our
my
fellow
Commissioners
talked
about
ways
of
dealing
with
that,
but
one
of
the
thoughts
I
have-
and
one
of
the
hopes
I
have
is
in
phase
two.
Many
of
the
community
colleges
and
colleges
around
the
state
have
worked
with
developers
to
create
student
housing
and
that
would
be
so
appropriate
on
talkwoods
and
they've
done
it
in
joint
ventures.
They've
done
it
in
ways
that
haven't
cost
the
colleges
as
much
money,
but
please
please
give
consideration
to
that.
Our
students
or
students
need
housing.
A
A
K
F
Come
on,
okay,
I,
totally
excited
about
this
project
and
I,
really
as
a
17-year
resident
in
punishments.
I
really
wanted
to
see
it
move
forward.
My
name
is
Bill
Sanderson
and
I'm
excited
about
the
Killarney
part
because
I
own
a
restaurant,
and
we
desperately
need
trained
staff
into
the
future
and
as
well
as
to
keep
our
youth
people
here
to
give
them
jobs.
So
they
don't
move
away
because
I
have
several
of
our
staff
move
away
for
opportunities.
This
is
going
to
be
great
for
the
city.
F
My
only
comment
about
the
design
is
the
competition
between
students
and
Taurus
heading
towards
the
airport
and
the
college.
At
the
same
time,
that
traffic
flow
is
a
knot.
That's
going
to
happen.
I
live
near
the
hospital
at
seven
in
the
morning
when
all
the
staff
have
to
get
to
the
hospital
by
my
house.
You
can't
cross
the
street
because
it
and
I
just
see
a
little
bit
of
a
bottleneck
with
tourists.
F
That's
they
only
know
two
ways
to
go
to
the
airport
when
they
get
here
so
and
with
this,
the
airport
traffic
in
the
classroom
schedules
combined.
You're
gonna
have
a
lot
of
people
trying
to
get
into
the
same
area
at
the
same
time
and
I
hope
we
can
look
at
signage
in
ways
to
alleviate
the
Taurus
versus
the
students,
because
we
can't
control
the
airport
schedule
or
the
city
the
the
College
schedule,
but
that
would
be
my
concern.
Thank
you.
L
We
only
have
one
person
good
evening,
chair
and
Commissioners.
My
name
is
David
Powell
I'm,
a
resident
of
Palm
Springs,
also
near
this
project.
It
appears
I,
move
near
major
projects
that
the
city
has
going
on
that
it
appears
thank
you
for
allowing
public
comment
after
this.
After
the
presentation
allowing
us
to
see
and
hear
about
the
project,
design
and
then
commenting
is
beneficial.
I
encourage
the
project
team
to
do
the
same
in
their
final
meeting
next
week,
I
believe
the
buildings
are
attractive.
It's
a
very
nice
design,
very,
very
good
design.
L
Overall,
some
of
the
concerns
I
have,
as
do
some
of
the
Neighbors
in
the
area
and
with
Vibe,
where
I
am
the
setback
of
The
Culinary
building.
Maybe
the
Massey
of
the
Colorado
building
from
the
street
seems
a
little
high,
predominantly
due
to
the
mechanical
covering
13
feet
in
height
at
the
top,
maybe,
and
also-
and
maybe
the
broadening.
L
Let's
talk
about
that
again.
I
multiple
comments
on
a
small
phone,
maybe
some
additional
setback
of
the
accelerator
building
to
match
and
for
also
The
Culinary
building.
It
seems
a
little
close
to
the
street
as
you're
looking
there
when
you
have
a
55
foot
building
where
you
have
the
second
two
stories,
and
then
you
have
the
additional
13
feet.
L
I
would
hope
it's
not
too
late,
as
as
comment
has
been
made
to
make
design
enhancements
to
the
project.
There's
other
design
changes
have
been
made
between
media
things.
Of
course,
the
last
meeting
is
next
week,
so
I
hope
that
the
team
will
consider
these
comments.
The
federal
entry
point
has
challenges,
as
feral
has
two
lanes
of
traffic
each
way
with
little
room
before
the
sidewalks.
The
design
picks
make
it
look
like
a
broad
roadway,
but
it's
not
narrow
and
heavily
travel.
L
There's
a
potential
of
pedestrians
impeding
the
traffic
from
Farrell
coming
from
the
into
the
campus,
better,
maybe
better
utilize,
the
other
two
primary
access
points,
plus
there
are
two
added
delivery:
driveways
now
that
I
notice
that
were
pointed
out
tonight
for
the
deliveries
that
will
also
impede
the
feral
traffic
both
ways.
It's
I
think
that
the
concerns
that
many
of
the
neighbors
have
is
the
height
of
the
building,
possibly
the
massing
as
you
are
on
feral.
A
B
M
Hi,
my
name
is
Kathy
Roberts
I
live
on
the
feral
side
in
the
vibe
development
when
we
originally
bought.
Of
course,
my
husband
had
to
go
find
out
what
was
going
to
be
over
there
and
we
were
told
it
was
all
going
to
be
one-story
buildings,
because
you
know
you
pay
a
lot
for
a
Mountain
View,
we're
not
going
to
have
the
ocean
view
we're
going
to
have
that
Mountain
View
at
least
and
I
heard
you
say
which
was
nice.
You
know
oh
they're,
worried
about
having
a
Mountain
View
for
the
college.
M
Well,
they
should
be
in
class
and
they
should
be
studying
and
not
looking
the
Mountain
View
where
we
live
there
and
we
want
to
see
our
Mountain
View
I,
don't
want
to
see
a
51-foot
building
with
you
know,
trying
to
protect
shade,
which
is
not
going
to
help
trust
me.
It's
51
Feet's,
going
to
be
so
high.
That's
still
going
to
beat
in
those
windows
on
the
first
story,
hugely
concerned
with
the
people.
On
the
other
side,
I
mean
something
needs
to
be
done
to
make
sure
we
protect
those
homes
over
there.
M
I
don't
live
there,
but
they
should
not.
Have
you
know
parking
I
mean
it
looks
like
an
obnoxious
amount
of
parking
all
along
their
homes.
There
should
definitely
be
some
sort
of
barrier,
not
just
some
plants.
It
should
maybe
be
a
wall,
something
that
those
people
approve
and
I'm
just
I'm,
so
110
against
feral
I
walk
outside
our
development
every
day.
I,
don't
know
if
you
guys
know
about
the
UPS
trucks
that
go
down
that
street.
They
are
just
flying
down
that
street.
M
They
somewhere
down
there,
they
get
their
trucks
filled
and
they're
flying
down
feral.
If
you've
got
a
bunch
of
kids
trying
to
pull
into
Farrell
to
go
into
that
college
and
pulling
out
you
are
going
to
get
them
hit
by
those
UPS
trucks.
They
are
barreling,
I,
see
them
every
day.
I
walk
outside
my
development
every
day
they
just
Barrel
up
and
down
that
street
because
they
get
those
trucks
loaded
and
they're
ready
to
go
for
the
day.
So
please
consider
the
safety
on
feral.
It's
a
really
really
dangerous
idea
for
everybody's
safety.
N
Hi
I'm
Debbie,
Patterson
I
live
on
Tahquitz
directly
across
from
where
the
site
is,
and
one
of
my
concerns
is
the
feral
access,
because
the
the
traffic
and
talk
with
them
feral
is
so
bad
right
now
and
the
lights
are
wacky,
but
you've
got
deliveries
and
everything
coming
in
at
three
different
access
points.
Then
you've
got
the
buses
on
both
sides
so
I,
but
then
on
the
feral
side,
where
it's
open
or
going
to
be
left
undeveloped.
N
What
in
any
kind
of
consideration,
is
going
to
be
taken
to
occupy
that
space
during
the
time
that
it's
sitting
vacant
and
I?
Is
it
just
going
to
be
abandoned
or
you
know,
are
we
going
to
have
some
sort
of
decoration
in
there
or
something,
but
the
I?
You
could
even
put
like
a
park
in
there
or
something
I.
N
Also,
the
comment
to
what
you
made
about
the
garden
could
be
directly
behind
building
two.
Where
that
huge
parking
space
is-
and
it
is
a
big
added
incentive
to
a
Culinary
Institute-
would
be
a
garden
I
mean.
We've
got
a
lot
of
I,
can't
even
think
of
the
word
I'm
getting
old,
but
the
food
that
they're
able
to
prepare
is
actually
right
there.
N
O
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
chair
Commissioners.
My
name
is
Rod
Wood
I
live
on
164
Vibe
way,
I've
seen
some
of
the
earlier
plans.
I
see
the
current
one.
I
see
the
one
of
the
earlier
plans
had
the
buildings
further
back
from
Farrell
to
start
with
I
see
it's
been
moved
closer
into.
Feral
I
would
think
that
you
actually
probably
want
to
swap
where
buildings
one
two
and
three
are
kind
of
with.
Where
that
east
side
parking
lot
is
so
you
have
parking
on
both
sides.
There'd
be
less
intensity
of
traffic.
I.
O
Don't
know
that
having
four
lanes
of
going
in
and
having
to
go
traffic
circle
Americans
are
not
really
good
with
traffic
circles.
In
case
you
didn't
know,
maybe,
but
certainly
not
out
in
California
anyway.
You'd
have
more
or
less
concentration
of
traffic,
especially
off
of
the
feral
side.
I
think
the
feral
side
should
also
have
a
light
there
to
help
people
who
are
crossing
the
street
going
to,
for
instance,
the
the
bus
stops
on
the
other
side
of
the
street.
O
It
would
also
help
with
the
extra
places
that
you
have
for
trucks
making
deliveries.
I
was
writing.
Notes
as
we
were
going,
I
have
to
agree
with
the
chair
about
the
overhang.
It
looks
lovely,
but
it
doesn't
do
a
lot
of
good
being
up
so
high
I.
Don't
know
how
to
mitigate
that
other
than
lowering
it,
which
may
not.
Look
as
good.
O
They
may
be
coming
into
campus
to
go
to
class,
but
some
of
them
may
have
multiple
classes
and
if
that's
the
case,
they'll
want
to
have
something
to
eat.
There
used
to
be
a
jack
of
the
box
right
where
that
three
is
not
there
anymore.
So
maybe
that
should
be
a
consideration
in
there
too.
I
believe
that's
about
it.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
P
Concerning
I
love,
the
idea
of
housing
I
think
that
would
be
a
great
addition
to
the
the
plan
I
also,
even
though
it's
I'm
on
the
opposite
side,
I
agree
that
a
51
foot
height
building
is
going
to
block
a
lot
of
views
from
the
people
in
the
vibe
and
I.
Think
that's
that's
like
a
five-story
building
and
I
know.
The
city
is
fighting
right
now
with
one
of
the
hotel
developments
where
they
want
to
do
a
five-story,
condo
development
and
that's
of
concern
but
and
I
know
the
city.
P
I
don't
know
for
sure
what
is
in
building
four
and
five
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
a
noise
concern
for
the
people
that
live
near
that
part
of
the
neighborhood,
and
maybe
that
could
be
repositioned
somewhere
else.
It
seems
like
that
is
very
close
to
a
lot
of
homes
in
that
area,
and
that
should
be
looked
at
I
agree
also
with
the
concerns
about
all
the
traffic
on
Farrell
they're
with
the
the
main
entrance
and
then
also
where
the
delivery
trucks
would
come
in
I
think
that
could
be.
P
Maybe
the
deliveries
could
be
done
somewhere
else.
It
seems
like
there's
a
lot
of
traffic,
it's
a
major
thoroughfare
and
that
seems
ill
planned
and
just
the
accelerator
building
the
list
of
programs,
and
what's
in
that
building,
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
stuff
crammed
into
not
a
really
huge
building.
I.
P
Just
wonder
if
there's
going
to
be
enough
space
for
what's
going
on
in
those
programs
and
then
finally
concerning
the
traffic
from
Farrell,
with
the
four
lanes
coming
in,
maybe
something
to
consider
if
they're,
if
it's
a
second
story
building,
maybe
to
give
access
for
a
connection
for
walkways
that
could
be
done
on
the
second
level,
like
a
Skyway
that
could
connect
those
two
buildings
to
give
more
access
across
all
those
buildings.
Thank
you.
Q
Hello,
I'm,
Doug,
Hughes
and
I'm
a
Palm
Springs
resident,
not
adjacent
to
this
project
in
the
neighborhood,
looks
like
a
nice
project.
The
architecture
looks
great
I
I.
Some
of
my
comments
are
similar
to
some
that
have
already
been
made.
One
I
think
the
biggest
one
is
the
the
feral
entries.
I,
don't
know
if
people
have
seen
when
when
they
had
a
problem
with
the
signal
there
and
it
it
would
back
up
when
they
had
the
signal
timing
wrong,
it
would
back
up
all
the
way
down.
Q
I'd
like
that
comment
and
I
think
maybe
if
they
moved
building
one
I,
think
it
is
the
accelerator
maybe
up
to
the
east
of
building
three,
it's
the
west
of
building
three.
You
might
be
able
to
create
like
a
little
common
area
where
people
could
go
to
the
students
could
go
to
the
different
ones
and
then
you
might
be
able
to
alleviate
some
of
the
the
traffic
issue.
Q
Also,
if
the
way
it's
set
up,
if
people
Park
all
it
seems
like
the
entrances,
they
said
that
are
the
buildings
are
going
to
be
unferal
everybody's
going
to
have
to
park
and
walk
around
the
buildings.
That's
a
long
walk,
especially
for
Mobility
impaired
people.
If
that's,
if
I'm
understanding,
that's
what
they
were
going
to
do,
I
think
you'd
want
the
entrances
to
the
building
from
the
parking
lot
side.
Q
Even
though
you
might
need
to
change
the
look
of
it,
it
would
look
nice
from
feral
the
way
it's
designed,
but
if
everyone's
going
to
have
to
walk
all
the
way
around
there
from
Bus
drop
offs
or
parking
drop-offs
or
the
parking
lot,
it
seems
like
that.
Maybe
could
be
reconfigured
a
little
and
I'm
glad
to
see
they
had
a
version
where
they,
where
building
three,
as
they
had
put
the
at
one
point.
I
saw
that
they
had
put
the
the
buildings.
Q
Well,
palm
trees
aren't
good
shading,
even
the
ones
they
have
there,
maybe
they're
better
than
other
kinds
of
palm
trees,
but
hopefully
they
won't
put
palm
trees
in
their
shading
they'll,
do
something
with
more
of
a
canopy
and
not
over
trim
them
like
they
do
in
all
the
parking
lots
you
know
as
soon
as
they
grow
out
in
Lowe's
parking
lot
or
whatever.
They
trim
them
back,
because
there's
no
shading,
so
hopefully
they
can
plan,
for
you
know
really
having
some
shading
for
the
students.
Three
minutes
is
up.
R
Good
evening
my
name
is
Eric
Graham
as
a
facilities
and
maintenance
manager
and
kind
of
working
with
architectures
architecture.
People
in
design
I
see
one
thing
that
we
kind
of
Miss
kind
of
parking.
One
of
the
a
couple
of
the
Commissioners
here
have
actually
stated
it's
too
much
parking
and
I.
Think
you
need
to
rethink
that
Cultural
Center
number
seven,
we
forgot.
We
haven't
really
talked
about
that.
What
I
think
the
design
people
have
done?
R
They've
actually
done
a
good
thing
with
the
parking,
because
they've
actually
looked
at
the
cultural
center
and
said:
okay,
our
people
are
going
to
be
coming
and
going
our
students
in
the
evenings
because
they're
going
to
clash
together
all
of
a
sudden
there's
not
going
to
be
enough
parking
plus
I
think.
Basically,
that
may
not
be
a
huge
case
in
26
when
we
get
everything
built
and
going,
but
what,
if
they
decide
later
on?
R
If
there's
going
to
be
a
huge
section
of
those
two
and
a
half
acres
there,
they're
going
to
add
to
that
they're
going
to
need
that
parking.
I
agree
with
all
the
other
stuff
that's
actually
mentioned,
but
the
cultural
center
is
going
to
be
something
that
we
need
to
look
at
not
going
anywhere,
and
is
there
going
to
be
enough
parking
for
that?
R
All
those
everything
everything's
going
on
there
so
I
think
that
the
parking
is
is,
is
extremely
adequate
of
me
being
a
bit
a
business,
not
owner
but
kind
of
next
to
the
business
owners
that
we
have
to
count
our
parking
spaces
all
the
time
we
do
it
when
we
want
to
go
and
build
something.
New
and,
of
course,
code
comes
to
us
and
goes
there's
not
enough
parking.
S
The
only
thing
the
traffic
light
would
accomplish
is
to
maybe
eliminate
the
nighttime
drag
strippers
who
use
that
as
their
racing
venue.
So
if
you're
going
to
restrict
it
to
Right
Turn
Only,
you
certainly
don't
need
four
lanes,
so
I
hope
you
can
find
a
better
use
for
that
and
maybe
enlarge
the
other
two.
Thank
you.
T
Thank
you,
Richard
Gulick,
I
live
in
the
neighborhood
to
the
West
in
Sunrise,
Park
and
I
wrote
an
email
to
the
Planning
Commission
earlier
today.
My
concern
is
with
the
placement
of
buildings,
four
and
five
they're
right
in
the
center
of
the
residential
access
and
they're
pushed,
probably
the
equivalent
of
two
lanes
from
the
homes
there,
mine
being
one
of
them.
It
seems
to
me
that
this
would
be
better
placed
towards
talkwoods,
perhaps
centered,
towards
Tahquitz
up,
maybe
against.
B
U
Thank
you,
give
you
one.
Second,
please
I
just
want
to
point
out
procedural
Brown
act
issue.
The
agenda
stated
the
public
comments
will
before
the
presentation,
and
there
were
many
people
who
wanted
to
call
in
who
are
not
allowed
to
call
in
because
someone
in
the
city
clerk's
office
is
saying
public
comments
before
the
pre
before
the
presentation
for
or.
A
U
I
will
I
just
need
to
point
that
out,
here's
the
fun
things:
okay,
Flynn,
what
a
fabulous
job
on
presenting
the
final
wise
plan
and
I
love
the
way
you
had
your
little
Focus
Circle
going
on
the
slides,
and
it
reminds
me
of
the
old
days
when
we
do
presentations
in
person
with
a
with
a
laser
pointer,
so
Flynn,
wonderful
job,
especially
since
you
are
picking
this
up
and
not
directly.
You
know
continuously
involved
I
want
to
say:
we've
reached
an
historic
milestone.
U
We'll
comment
about
too
much
parking.
I,
remember
back
in
2017,
I
was
at
the
first
meeting
ever
between
the
former
Cod
president
mayor
Moon,
and
our
one
concern
in
Sunrise
Park,
which
is
the
west
of
the
campus,
was
there
would
not
be
enough
parking
and
overflow.
So
too
much
parking
to
me
is
not
an
issue.
U
U
We
have
all
these
large
retail
complexes
that
put
trees
in
it's
a
joke.
They
don't
grow,
they
don't
water
them
and
we
all
end
up
with
hot
cars
and
Hot
pavement,
and
thank
you,
commissioner,
wermiak
for
adding
housing
as
an
option
for
open
space
on
the
west
side
in
phase
two
I
think
it's
the
optimal
thing
to
do,
and
thank
you
all
very
much
foreign.
V
B
W
B
W
You
and
thanks
everybody
for
presenting
the
plan.
It
looked
great
I
am
a
Vibe
resident.
I
live
on
Farrell.
A
lot
of
the
concerns
have
been
about
the
issues
of
feral
but
I
think
they're
worth
repeating
I.
Second,
all
of
that
in
terms
of
just
five
issues
here,
obviously
the
height
of
the
building
and
really
how
far
back
it
is
set
back.
W
I
am
if
you're
looking
at
that
diagram
on
Farrell
I
will
actually
be
facing
one
of
those
service
entries,
which
is
very
concerning
already
with
the
sound
that
is
on
feral
the
sound
of
trucks
and
really
it
is
that
somebody
put
it
the
back
end
of
this
building
is
to
feral
the
mechanical
screen.
The
height
of
that
is
really
a
concern
and
again
about
the
height
really
what
I'm,
envisioning
or
what
I
hope
won't
happen.
W
E
I
Thank
you
two
suggestions.
There
certainly
is
a
lot
of
concern
from
the
residents
at
Vibe
about
their
site
and
their
Mountain
views,
and
although
I
acknowledge,
like
others,
that
technically
there's
no
legal
right
to
the
view,
I
was
not
when
I
looked
at
this
I
wasn't
particularly
concerned
because
feral
has
such
a
wide
right-of-way
and
the
buildings
are
set
back
from
feral
and
there's
a
wall
on
the
vibe
side,
I'm,
not
sure
what
that
line
of
Center
is
going
to
be,
but
because
this
has
more
public
meetings
to
go.
I
I
would
suggest
that
the
design
team
do
a
quick
sketch
and
and
showing
what
the
line
of
sight
is,
so
that
we
know
whether
or
not
or
so
that
the
residents
certainly
know
or
understand
whether
or
not
the
height
of
the
building
is
going
to
be
visible
from
their
own
properties.
And
oh,
the
other
thing
on
the
parking.
Obviously
there's
a
current
concern
about
parking.