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A
A
A
A
C
A
D
A
Have
a
motion
and
a
do
I
have
a
second
second
from
Commissioner
Murud
C,
to
accept
the
agenda
all
in
favor
aye
that
passes
unanimously.
This
is
a
time
for
public
comments.
It's
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
Planning
Commission
on
consent,
calendar
and
other
agenda
items
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
Commission.
Please
note
that
the
Planning
Commission
is
prohibited
from
taking
action
and
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
A
E
Thank
you,
David
Himes,
resident
of
Palm
Springs
I,
wanted
to
speak
just
thoughts
on
item
to
see.
I
went
to
tried
to
go
through
the
material.
There's
there's
quite
a
bit
there
and
bring
myself
up
to
speed.
I
guess
my
one
thought
would
be,
and
I
know
that
the
applicant
is
asking
for.
It
looks
like
me,
like
a
two-year
extension
and
I,
think
that
the
the
Planning
Commission
is
is
looking
at.
E
Maybe
a
one-year
Extension
I
would
just
add
a
thought
that
perhaps
for
these
class
one
these
buildings,
these
historic
buildings,
we
need
to
have
perhaps
six
months
in
terms
of
a
next
in
terms
of
an
extension
before
they
would
come
back
and
have
to
I
guess
help
us
understand
why
we're
going
on
into
the
future.
So
that
was
just
a
thought.
I
would
add,
especially
on
these
historic
buildings,
keeping
in
front
of
the
public
eye.
Keep
it
out
there
so
folks
know
what's
what's
progressing,
especially
with
the
site
like
this.
A
Is
there
anyone
else
who
wishes
to
speak?
If
not,
the
public
hearing
is
closed.
There
is.
There
are
no
consent,
calendar
items.
We
are
at
the
first
public
hearing
item
2a,
Jennifer,
gagner
and
Shawn
Maguire
for
a
tentative
parcel
map
to
subdivide
a
1.25
acre
property
into
two
parcels
for
a
single-family
residential
development
at
two
five,
eight
four
Anza
trail
staff
report.
Please.
F
Madam
chair
and
planning
commissioners,
the
request
before
you
is
a
lot
split
for
a
property
that
is
roughly
one
in
a
quarter
acres
in
size.
The
Afghan
proposes
to
split
the
Lots
evenly,
so
each
parcel
would
be
25,000
455
square
feet
each
and
currently
there
is
an
existing
single-family
home
on
the
southerly
portion
of
the
site.
As
you
see
here
in
the
aerial
there
here
are
some
photographs
of
the
existing
conditions
of
the
residents
itself
at
the
top
right.
F
The
photo
here
it
shows
the
entry
to
the
site
and
where
the
proposed
access,
easement
driveway
would
be
located
for
parcel
2,
which
is
the
second
parcel
or
the
northerly
parcel
proposed,
and
so
that
would
this
would
be
the
location
for
that
access.
Driveway.
The
other
photos
just
show
some
of
the
existing
conditions
of
the
home
and
the
second
entry
to
the
site,
as
well
as
the
street.
F
The
plan
for
the
Lots.
What
is
shown
here
and
you
see
at
the
top
is
parcel
two
at
the
bottom
is
parcel
one
with
the
existing
residents
as
well
as
Anza
trail
and
the
proposed
dedications
that
are
required
as
part
of
the
map.
The
applicant
will
be
required
to
dedicate
ten
feet
to
the
city,
to
accommodate
the
25
foot
1/2
street
requirement
under
the
general
plan
circulation
element.
F
The
applicant
or
the
project
itself
is
its:
the
site
is
located
within
the
very
low
density,
residential
general
plan,
land
use,
designation
and
as
part
of
the
r1b
zone.
The
proposed
parcels
are
consistent
with
the
R&B
zone
requirements
in
terms
of
the
minimum
area,
width
and
depth,
so
they
do
comply
with
the
zoning
requirements.
F
F
Project
is
conditioned
to
provide
the
street
dedication,
as
I
mentioned
as
well
as
do
some
improvements
to
the
property
along
the
street
frontage,
primarily
a
curb
gutter
and
sidewalk,
as
just
you'll,
see
in
engineering
conditions,
4
and
6,
as
well
as
a
half
Street
improvement,
which
is
noted
in
engineering
condition
of
approval
number
7.
The
applicant
has
provided
some
additional
correspondence
which
was
given
to
you
at
the
Dyess
here
today.
That
does
explain
their
requests
to
defer
these
requirements.
F
F
F
G
Way,
excuse
me
the
way
that
the
covenants
work
is
the
items
that
are
listed
in
the
conditions
of
approval
are
put
into
an
agreement
that
the
owner
or
the
applicant
signs
gets
recorded
against
the
property
so
that
the
city
has
the
ability
to
call
that
covenant
at
a
later
date
later
date
to
be
determined
whether
we
come
in
there
with
a
city
project.
An
assessment
district
is
formed,
something's
done
that
goes
through
and
it
widens
the
entire
Road.
G
B
B
B
G
B
E
Typically,
it's
written
up
as
a
covenant
that
is
for
lack
better
term
called
in
by
the
City
Engineer
by
the
relevant
city
department
head,
who
is
in
charge
of
whatever
that
Street
widening
project
will
be
and
so
effectively
what
this
does,
that
kind
of
land
banks
and
also
gets
the
consent
of
the
property
owner
or
the
agreement
of
the
property
owner
to
work
with
the
city
on
those
improvements
when
they
ultimately
come
in
that
way,
we're
not
doing
this
sort
of
hodgepodge
of
improvements
throughout
the
street.
So
it's
really
just
more
of
a
timing
thing.
E
B
Thank
you,
I
have
another
question
for
David
in
terms
of
the
right-of-way
that's
being
proposed
through
the
street
facing
lot
back
to
the
rear
lot.
Who's
responsible.
Excuse
me,
who
is
responsible
for
improving
that,
would
it
be
the
the
owner
of
the
first
lot
or
the
owner
of
the
second
ladder
doesn't
have
to
get
approved
before
the
subdivision
takes
place?
How
does
that
work
so.
F
C
Don't
know
if
this
is
a
legal
question
or
a
question
to
the
planner,
but
we're
at
this
question,
because
the
question
comes
up
because
the
applicant
has
requested
to
have
a
covenant
and
not
put
any
improvements
for
curb,
sidewalk
and
Street
I
understand
the
Covenant
will
say
the
land
could
be
used
by
the
city
in
the
future,
but
the
actual
payment
of
the
improvements,
the
sidewalk,
the
curb
and
gutter.
How
do
we
as
a
city
have
a
hook
for
that
to
happen?
I.
E
Typically,
it
will
provide
in
there
and
again
there's
there's
Nexus.
We
know
we've
talked
about
that
way
before
there
is
Nexus
for
the
city
to
have
the
property
owner
pay
for
those
improvements
as
a
condition
of
approval,
and
that's
typically,
what
you
see
in
these
covenants
is
that
the
property
owner
agrees
to
dedicate
a
certain
amount
of
property
for
ultimately
that
widening
project,
as
well
as
to
pay
for
the
proportional
cost
of
those
improvements.
That's
typically
how
they
done
I
would
assume
that
would
be
the
same
way
here.
I.
A
F
A
F
A
F
F
G
Our
preference
is
to
have
the
street
widening
of
the
pavement
done
in
front
of
the
property
subject:
property
and
the
curb
gutter
and
sidewalk
be
deferred
to
a
covenant
or
to
the
development
of
parcel
number.
Two
deferring
it
to
a
covenant
makes
more
sense
in
this
area,
but
the
widening
of
the
pavement
you
know
streets
are
widened
and
streets
are,
are
constructed
and
their
development
driven.
It's
not
something
that
the
city
goes
out
and
builds
so
as
development
occurs.
G
That's
when
this
occurs
also
the
property
that's
directly
to
the
east
of
this,
which
is
also
considered
Rancho
Vista
trail.
Those
improvements
were
also
deferred
to
a
covenant
as
well.
So
it
would
kind
of
make
sense
that
it
would
kind
of
stand
in
in
to
just
kind
of
stay
in
form
with
what
we
did
directly
to
the
east,
but
we
would
prefer
that
the
widening
be
done.
A
H
I'd
like
to
go
back
to
the
the
right-of-way,
it's
spelled
out
as
24
feet
in
width
and
as
Commissioner
wormer
pointed
out,
it
is
quite
close
to
the
existing
residence
on
the
south
lot.
I
guess.
My
question
is:
it's
mentioned
that
the
easement
right-of-way
20
24
feet
will
accommodate
a
driveway,
and
this
needs
to
be
sized
adequately
for
fire
department
access.
Indeed,
there's
a
turnaround
requirement
for
the
for
the
north
lot.
Do
you
know
offhand
what
the
width
of
the
actual
driveway
is
and
I
guess?
F
So
the
10th
your
first
question
there
there's
no
specific
improvement
plan
shown
as
a
part
of
the
project.
At
this
time
we
would
request
that
it
meet.
Of
course,
the
minimum
improvement
widths
for
the
fire
department
and
I
do
see
that
they
have
a
condition
in
here
that
talks
about
if
the
24
foot
access
easement
remaining
unobstructed
and
just
that
it's
improved
to
handle
a
fire
apparatus
of
73,000
pounds.
F
A
And
I
had
one
other
question
and
it's
one
I
asked
the
engineering
department
earlier,
but
further
down
the
street.
There
is
actually
a
nice
improvement
in
the
front
of
the
property,
which
is
a
series
of
pavers
and
I
was
wondering
what
your
thoughts
were
on.
Something
like
that
and
what
that
would
require.
G
When,
when
applicants
decide
to
use
a
different
type
of
material
than
what
is
normally
called
out
for
our
street
sections,
which
for
a
local
Street,
is
two
and
a
half
inches
or
three
inches
of
asphalt
over
four
of
crush
miscellaneous
bass,
sometimes
they
come
in
with
a
different
alternative
which
is
either
concrete
or
pavers.
When
that
occurs,
the
city
is
not
doesn't
have
a
position
against
it.
It's
just.
G
They
are
required
to
fill
out
an
encroachment
agreement
which
is
about
a
six
page
document
that
holds
the
city
hold
harmless,
for
any
kind
of
damage
has
done
to
it.
If
utility
companies
need
to
come
in
and
make
repairs,
they're
not
obligated
to
put
the
pavers
back,
they
have
to
show
the
city
is
additionally
assured
on
their
insurance
and
it's
for
single-family
homes.
It
gets
a
little
costly
to
actually
try
to
do
that.
We
don't
have
anything
against
it.
It's
just
usually
not
practical
and
the.
A
A
I
I
As
mr.
Newell
mentioned,
Shawn
and
I
would
like
to
request
the
deferral
to
a
covenant
of
the
requirement
for
us
to
improve
the
street
by
adding
9
feet
of
asphalt
to
the
existing
road,
as
well
as
adding
a
curb
gutter
and
sidewalk
I
think
our
position
has
been
stated,
so
don't
want
to
take
up
a
lot
of
time,
but
we
do
want
to
just
make
it
clear
that
we're
not
opposed
to
any
kind
of
improvements.
I
It
just
seems
untimely
to
increase
the
street
with
by
50%
when
were
the
only
ones
along
the
entire
length
of
Anza.
That
would
be
doing
that.
We
would
just
argue
that
it
doesn't
feel
like
an
improvement.
Rather,
it
feels
like
it
would
maybe
be
more
of
a
distraction,
further
we're
concerned
that
our
neighbors
would
be
using
this
as
parking
there's
a
trailhead
also
located
close
to
where
the
property
is
and
on
the
weekends
that
gets
quite
busy.
We're
also
concerned
that
hikers
would
use
this
area
as
parking
directly
in
front
of
our
house.
I
I
Madam
chair,
you
didn't
mention
some
pavers
that
are
located
at
one
of
the
properties.
There
are
a
few
places
where
I
think,
possibly
some
neighbors
have
done.
Maybe
I'm
not
sure
they've
taken
it
upon
themselves
to
do
some
improvements
or
if
it
was
actually
approved
by
the
city.
But
nowhere
is
there.
A
patch
of
asphalt
poured.
That's
nine
feet
wide.
I
So
we
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
emphasizing
and
showing
you
guys
exactly
the
can,
the
current
existing
conditions
of
Anza
trail
and
then
finally,
on
page
5,
our
second
request
which
mr.
Newell
already
referred
to,
and
that
would
be
our
request-
that
the
24
foot
wide
emergency
access
road,
which
will
act
as
essentially
our
driveway
or
access
to
parcel
number
2,
which
will
eventually
be
my
personal
residence.
We
just
asked
that
that
get
deferred
to
the
development
of
parcel
number
2.
I
A
Are
there
any
other
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
speak
on
this
item
there?
Being
none?
Do
you
have
any
any?
You
have
three
minutes
of
rebuttal
which
I'm,
assuming
you
won't
take
I.
Think
I'm
correct
in
that.
Thank
you.
The
matter
is
before
the
are
before
the
Commission.
At
this
point,
Commissioner
Hudson.
We.
H
H
I
think
to
do
it
piecemeal
actually
to
do
any
of
these
improvements
along
Anza,
trail
I
think
would
totally
destroy
the
very
special
character
of
the
street.
I
did
ask
about
the
the
right-of-way,
and
the
sequence
that's
being
proposed
is
is
fine
with
me,
in
other
words,
that
the
required
driveway
be
constructed
at
the
time
that
the
north
parcel
is
developed.
H
But
I
do
have
concerns
basically
about
the
the
actual
width
of
that
hardscape
driveway
and
the
potential
for
any
landscape
buffer
between
the
driveway
and
the
eastern
property
law
and
I
would
like
maybe
some
discussion
on
that
or
the
creation
of
some
sort
of
condition
that
that
that
landscape
buffer
occur
I.
A
Have
a
question
of
staff:
this
have
we
deferred
the
paving
or
the
engineering
department,
the
property
next
door
was
improved
at
some
point
recently
that
it
looks
newer
than
the
rest
of
Anza,
trail
and
I
know.
There
are
few
properties
that
have
been
developed
were:
was
the
paving
deferred
on
all
of
those
properties?
Yes,.
E
A
Yeah,
that's
kind
of
what
I
thought:
okay,
that
that
answers.
My
questions
on
the
landscape
buffer,
the
problem
I
have
with
that
is
there
doesn't
appear
to
be
any
room
if
we've
got
a
five-foot
minimum
and
we've
got
we
have
to
put
in
they
have
to
put
in
24
feet,
I'm,
assuming
it's
only
29
feet
to
the
house.
Is
that
correct?
A
F
Know
in
in
our
thinking
about
it
in
the
past,
I
think
fired.
Herman
has
accepted
some
deviation
from
the
24
footed
clearance.
I
think
they've
allowed
a
minimum
of
20
in
some
instances
and
given
that
nature
of
the
intensity
of
the
use,
that
may
be
something
they'd
be
open
to
allowing
for
this
project
so
that
that
is
the
case
and
staff
is
able
to
work
with
the
fire
department
with
a
20-foot
driveway,
giving
a
four
foot
buffer
on
the
east
side
of
the
project.
That's
it
that
would
be
fine
with
staff.
So.
A
I
think
we
might
have
be
close
to
emotion
on
this.
The
motion
being
accept
the
staff
report
allow
for
a
deferral
with
a
covenant
on
the
various
items
that
the
applicant
has
requested
and
asked
staff
to
work
with
the
fire
department
to
allow
a
20-foot
access
road
with
a
five
foot
buffer
on
the
east
side.
Does
that
sound
like
it.
A
C
I
appreciate
and
understand
the
uniqueness
of
the
street
and
I
also
appreciate
our
general
plan
as
trying
to
get
us
from
A
to
Z
to
improve
the
street
to
be
a
better
Street
in
the
future
for
future
people.
It's
behold
upon
us
I
think
to
really
look
at
that
general
plan
and
it's
beholden
upon
us
to
really
plan
for
future
generations.
A
Item
the
item
that
is
now
before
the
commission
is
item
to
be
Sonya
son.
Am
I
pronouncing
that
correctly
Sonia
Investments
LLC
for
a
time
extension
of
the
entitlements
for
a
tentative
tract
map
and
construction
and
major
architectural
application
for
the
construction
of
a
24
unit,
condominium
project
located
at
305,
West,
San,
Rafael
Drive
staff
report?
Please
Thank.
J
The
applicant
has
gone
through
a
series
of
approval
processes
with
the
city
they
had
a
community
facilities
district
approved
by
the
City
Council
in
2017.
Plans
have
been
submitted
to
the
building
department
as
a
plan
check.
Also
in
2017
Street
improvement
and
grading
plans
have
been
submitted
to
the
engineering
department
and
then
the
application
the
applicant
has
received
is
in
the
process
right
now
of
getting
additional
plan
check
reviews.
So
the
project
has
been
under
review
for
several
months,
and
so
they
are
making
headway
as
to
get
it
approved.
J
But,
as
you
can
see,
the
the
City
Council
approval
expires
on
the
16th
of
this
month.
So
that
is
why
they
are
here
before
you
today.
So
the
project
is
on
San
Rafael
between
Virginia
Road
and
Puerto
del
Sol
and
the
north
end
of
town.
The
slide
that's
before
you
today
is
just
a
refresher
of
the
site
plan.
It's
a
24
unit,
one-story
condominium
complex
with
parking
on
either
ends
and
a
common
paseo
that
runs
through
the
property.
Also,
there
are
some
renderings
of
the
view
of
the
street
from
San
Rafael.
J
In
your
packet
there's
also
some
drawings,
3d
renderings
of
what
the
the
site
will
look
like.
So
in
the
staff
report
there
is
in
a
text
analysis
of
the
extension
of
time.
The
applicate
needed
needs
to
show
that
he's
made
progress
to
advance
the
project
staff
feels
that
there
have
been
successes,
process
process,
they're,
making
progress
on
the
property
to
get
it
underway
and
constructed.
J
J
B
So
the
working
construction
documents
and
the
some
of
the
other
engineering
drawings
have
been
in
the
city
for
a
while.
Now
I
was
wondering
if
you
did
any
kind
of
quick
back
of
the
nap
envelope
sort
of
analysis
as
to
whether
those
timeframes
are
similar
to
other
projects
of
this
complexity.
Or
is
this
taking
longer
or
less
time
than
is
typical?
If
you
know
that
right.
A
E
My
name
is
Jerome
Taleo
I'm,
the
owner
of
Sonia
investments,
I'll,
see
the
owner
of
the
property
in
question.
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
One
of
the
questions
was
the
delay
of
six
months,
or
so
we
actually
did
a
change
to
the
structural
nature
of
the
buildings
which
required
re-engineering,
which
is
what
took
so
long.
So
that's
to
answer
that
specific
question.
A
A
H
This
question
is
for
the
the
applicant
you
mentioned
that
there
were
some
revisions
made
because
of
structural
structural
changes,
but
is
the
the
design
pretty
much
the
same
as
what
we
see
in
our
documents?
Yes,.
E
E
A
A
Okay,
new
church
LLC
new
church
LLC
for
a
time
extension
for
the
entitlement
for
entitlements
to
renovate
the
existing
historic
Community
Church,
an
orchid
tree
in
for
adaptive,
reuse
and
demolish
portions
of
the
site
for
the
construction
and
operation
of
a
hotel
with
accessories
spa
restaurant
meeting
space
on
a
3.1
acre
site
located
at
to
south
Gila
Road
there
is.
There
are
materials
on
your
desk
that
came
in
this
morning
from
members
of
the
HSP,
be
if
people
need
a
moment
to
read
them.
F
The
project
involves
the
adaptive,
reuse
of
2
class
1,
historic
sites,
the
Community
Church
and/or
katrien,
the
demolition
of
existing
structures
for
new
hotel
buildings
and
the
operation
of
a
hotel
with
spa,
restaurant
and
other
ancillary
uses
that
would
operate
as
part
of
the
hotel.
The
project
was
approved,
November
9th
of
2016,
and
for
those
of
us
that
weren't
here
at
the
time,
I'll
just
go
through
a
bit
of
the
project
to
refresh
your
memory
or
give
you
an
update
as
to
what
it
was.
F
The
site
does
involve
multiple
properties,
as
you
see
here
on
the
bottom
of
the
screen,
surrounded
you'll,
see
the
Community
Church
site
and
the
orchid
tree
site
and
the
adjacent
properties
to
the
north
of
those
class-one
historic
sites.
So
the
project
does
encompass
multiple
parcels,
and
this
exhibit
here
shows
you
what
is
existing
and
will
remain
on
the
left.
Side
of
the
screen
is
the
southerly
half
of
the
site,
with
the
community
church,
building
and
orchid
tree
bungalows.
The
northerly
half
is
where
the
new
hotel
buildings
would
be
located.
F
The
new
layout
of
the
site,
you
see
here
the
church
at
the
top
left
of
the
screen,
the
bungalows
at
the
bottom
left
and
then
the
remainder
of
the
hotel
buildings.
There's
two
pool
areas,
one
inside
of
the
bungalow
courtyard
area
and
then
the
main
larger
pool
is
on
the
right
side
of
the
screen
here,
adjacent
to
a
cafe
and
a
fitness
area
on
the
right
side
of
the
pool.
Hotel
rooms
are
scattered
throughout
the
site.
F
Here
on
the
top
right,
you
see
the
hotel
rooms
and
then,
of
course,
within
the
bungalows,
as
well
as
above
the
parking
which
is
at
the
bottom
right
of
the
screen.
The
parking
on
the
existing
that
exists
currently
today
at
the
top
left
of
this
screen
is
adjacent
to
the
st.
Bristow
Project,
but
is
actually
reserved
for
the
Community
Church
property,
so
the
church,
adaptive
reuse
does
involve
meeting
space,
the
main
lobby
in
check-in
area,
a
restaurant
space
and
some
additional
event
space
rooms.
F
F
The
Ackman
provided
some
perspectives
of
the
project.
So
what
you
see
here
is
primarily
the
new
buildings
from
the
vantage
point
of
kuya
Road
and
then
standing
on
a
second
or
of
the
or
this
actually
maybe
the
third
floor
area
of
the
the
new
hotel
building
on
the
east
side
of
the
property,
so
staff
evaluated
the
extension
under
the
guidelines
that
are
within
chapter
94
of
the
zoning
code
and
after
discussing
the
request
with
the
Afghan,
they
did
provide
some
additional
information,
which
was
a
part
of
your
report.
F
It
does
include
that
basically,
the
applicant
had
been
working
with
the
hotel
operator
to
refine
the
operations
of
the
hotel.
It
is
a
proposed
5-star
Hotel
according
to
the
applicant,
and
so
as
a
part
of
that
they
were
working
with
the
city
on
a
covenant
agreement
to
establish
additional
parking
to
the
east
of
the
site
for
the
project,
so
that
has
been
essentially
the
primary
that
primary
delay
in
exercising
these
entitlements.
We
have
not
received
any
building
permit
applications,
so
fees
or
application
fees
have
not
been
paid.
F
But
again
the
African
has
been
working
with
the
city
administration
on
an
establishing
the
covenant
agreement.
For
that
parking,
your
recommendation
or
the
recommendation
by
staff
is
a
12
month.
Time
extension
approval
with
a
requirement
to
do
some
additional
improvements
to
the
property
within
90
days
of
this.
If
the
project
is
approved
today
so
of
today's
date,
the
first
is
to
reinforce
and
shore
the
Community
Church
building
to
essentially
provide
a
better
support.
F
So
it
does,
if
you
know,
to
to
reduce
the
to
deterioration
of
the
structure
or
minimize
it
further
and
also
to
repair,
replace
and
install
perimeter
fencing,
because
the
current
fencing
is
has
been
penetrated
a
number
of
times,
and
it
is
clear
that
is
in
areas
starting
to
fall
or
lean
over.
So
we
are
recommending
that
these
improvements
be
done
within
90
days
and
that
the
applicant
work
with
staff
on
doing
these
items
swift
as
possible.
So
that
will
conclude
with
that.
I
am
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
M
F
M
This
issue
of
maintenance
and
incursions
and
all
are
really
disturbing
and
I
mean
I've,
been
driving
by
that
property
for
years,
and
you
know
I've
heard
reports
about
people
accessing
it.
I,
don't
remember
exactly
the
circumstances
behind
the
fire
of
the
craftsman
house.
That
was
there.
I,
don't
know,
if
was
under
the
ownership
of
these
individuals.
A
M
F
Think
that
the
proposed
enhancements
will
get
close
to
what
they
have
or
maybe
what
changes
they
did
to
Town
and
Country
I.
Don't
know
the
extent
of
that,
and
maybe
the
director
might
be
able
to
weigh
in
on
some
of
that,
but
I
think
it
with
the
improvements
or
the
recommendation
that
we
have
before
you
today.
It
would
provide
a
significant
increase
in
minimizing
trespassing.
F
D
To
that,
keep
in
mind
that
we're
dealing
with
two
distinct
properties
that
have
their
own
individual
conditions,
Town
and
Country,
we
didn't
have
the
same
conditions
relative
to
a
portion
of
the
building
being
destroyed
by
fire,
and
so
that's
something
that's
distinct
to
the
orchid
tree
property
in
the
community
church
property.
Also,
the
Town
&
Country
Center
is
a
little
bit
closer
together.
The
number
of
buildings
with
that
compose
that
site
that
are
currently
vacant,
or
a
little
bit
closer
together
and
a
little
bit
easier
to
surveil.
D
That's
something
that
certainly
could
be
added
here
as
a
condition
of
approval.
In
this
case,
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
more
difficult
in
terms
of
what
was
done
at
the
Town
&
Country
Center,
because
again
we're
talking
about
quite
a
number
of
buildings,
the
individual
bungalows,
the
Community
Church,
etc.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
more
difficult
to
do
that.
One
of
my
principal
concerns,
though,
is
with
the
community's
church
structure
because
it
was
damaged
by
fire
and
no
work
has
been
done
on
that
structure.
D
At
least
that
I
can
see,
and
maybe
the
applicant
can
correct
me.
My
concern
is
that,
with
the
deterioration
of
the
roof
and
the
structural
members,
there
I
don't
want
to
see
something
happen,
such
as
demolition
by
neglect
that
walls
begin
to
crumble
and
fall
down,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
added
the
condition
about
shoring,
even
if
it's
just
some
type
of
temporary
structure
that
could
help
stabilise
the
wall
structures,
so
they
don't
fall
over
I
think
that
would
be
helpful.
D
But
again
the
requirement
for
the
perimeter
fencing
is
to
try
and
reduce
the
number
of
trespassers
who
might
damage
the
structures.
And
so
those
are
our
concerns.
But
again,
planning
commission
could
consider
something
such
as
a
comprehensive
security
plan.
If
you
feel
that
would
be
important
in
addition
to
the
conditions
that
we're
proposing
a.
M
A
question
about
the
18
months:
that
of
there's
a
statement
here
that
says
the
applicant
has
been
working
with
city
staff
to
enter
into
a
parking
covenant
agreement
over
the
past
18
months
and
expects
to
why
did
it
take
so
long
when
what's
been
going
on
in
the
last
the
past
18
months?
That
would
require
that
much
time.
F
A
Question
for
the
director
the
you
mentioned
that
the
Town
&
Country
Center
required
a
security
plan
that
was
approved
by
the
fire
department
and
staff
and
a
console
subcommittee.
In
this
instance.
We
wouldn't
be
looking
at
a
council
subcommittee,
so
if
we
did
require
that
would
you
would
you
think
approval
by
the
planning
director
and
the
fire
department
would
be
adequate.
D
A
Then,
just
in
terms
of
shoring
up
the
building
and
in
another
life
I
dealt
with
a
historic
building
that
had
been
jamaal
or
hurt
by
fire
of
lost
its
roof,
and
it
was
shored
up.
We
did
that
immediately.
I'm,
just
wondering
do
we
need
it?
Do
we
need
engineering
plans
for
the
shoring?
Has
anybody
thought
about
what
that
would
take.
A
D
Had
proposed
that,
because
the
plan
to
shore
the
structure
of
the
Community
Church
would
probably
take
that
long
for
them
to
submit
something
to
us
to
review
and
approve,
and
we
were
doing
this
as
a
combined
package
if
the
Planning
Commission
wants
to
separate
those
items
and
put
a
shorter
timeframe
on
the
fence
that
may
be
appropriate.
Thank.
D
D
If
someone
was
trespassing
on
the
property,
so
they
had
that
they
also
had
to
place
fire
detection
equipment
in
the
vacant
buildings
that
were
wired
directly
to
the
fire
department,
so
that
if
there
were
any
smoke
or
things
like
that,
that
that
would
ring
directly
at
the
fire
department
and
actually
mr.
Braun
is
here
in
the
audience
I'm
trying
to
remember.
If
there's
anything
else
as
part
of
that
security
plan
for
Town
&,
Country
Center,
that
was
required
and
I
may
call
you
up
here
to
the
microphone
just
it's
Saranda
pitous
that
you're
here
today.
E
Mikey
Brahm
great
development.
We
work
with
a
fire
department,
building
apartment
on
the
to
secure
to
the
town
and
country
as
the
ninety
days.
Yes,
it's
long,
but,
however,
just
in
favor
of
the
applicant,
it
takes
some
time
to
do
a
plan
to
review
it,
bringing
up
new
fencing
in
how
to
secure
it.
So
I
don't
think
it's
excessive.
Just
ninety.
E
I
think
that's
okay
and
what
we
did
on
the
town
in
country
is.
We
installed
also
sensors,
so
in
case
homeless,
break
in
or
try
to
jump
the
fence
that
there
will
be
an
alert
immediate
to
the
police
station
there
to
come
over
and
alert
or
block
the
premises
to
see
if
anybody's
there.
So
anything
else,
we
have
I,
don't
think
the
fire,
the
church's
fire
sprinkler,
but
our
our
buildings,
our
fire
sprinklers,
so
that
obviously
protects
the
church.
E
M
E
Bought
we
bought
it
up,
it
is
unfortunate,
homeless
people
just
have
no
qualms,
taking
a
break
and
then
break
into
the
windows.
So
we
bought
it
up
all
the
windows
and
we
have
one
advantage
that
half
of
the
town
and
country
center
is
at
least
out
so
there's
activity,
the
worst
that
can
happen
is
if
there's
no
activity
so
I
think
that's
the
problem.
There
too,
the
Decembrists
of
church
is
a
neighborhood
meeting.
I
lived
a
neighborhood
where
only
residential
buildings
are
I,
live
right
across
from
it.
E
So
I
see
some
homeless
people
there
I
think
you
have
the
only
probably
sensors
that
homeless
people
or
whoever
is
trying
to
jump
the
fence
and
then
just
wait,
try
to
get
access
to
the
buildings
and
this
way
potentially
put
a
fire
up
and
threaten
the
buildings,
but.
E
M
B
B
D
A
J
N
Weintraub,
unfortunately,
he's
not
able
to
be
here
due
to
the
fires
going
on
in
Malibu,
so
I'm
here
in
his
place
and
able
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have
I
believe
the
the
date
of
the
fire
was
September.
21St
2012
is
my
understanding
of
the
date
of
the
fire.
Since
then,
the
property
has
been
securely
boarded.
We
work
with
a
now
David
Recio
who
took
over
for
Nadine
in
the
Code
Enforcement
Division.
N
N
Fencing
around
the
property,
if
requested,
can
absolutely
be
replaced
with
something
that
perhaps
maybe
the
local
fire
department
or
Police
Department
feel
more
adequate.
We
discussed
in
the
past
I
know
that
somebody
had
written
a
letter
and
about
requesting
fencing
with
mesh
behind
it.
We
are
more
than
happy
to
do
that.
It's
my
understanding
that
the
police
department
does
not
prefer
that
they
prefer
the
better
visibility
into
the
property,
but
if
the
decision
is
that
they
would
like
the
mesh,
we
are
more
than
happy
to
put
it
up
immediately.
N
We
do
have
a
site
maintenance
that
visits
the
property
three
times
a
week.
As
everyone
knows
here,
Palm
Springs
is
quite
windy.
Trash
debris
that
sometimes
people
just
throw
it
over
into
the
fence,
so
they
take
care
of
that
and
then
make
sure
that
the
property
is
securely
boarded.
There
was
an
incidence
or
I,
don't
want
to
say
an
incidence
a
time
period,
probably
about
three
or
four
months
ago,
where
some
units
were
open
and
I
received
a
number
of
calls
from
David
Rossi.
N
Oh,
that
was
actually
myself
the
contractors
we
had
engaged
all
to
perform
as
Bilt's
of
the
existing
conditions
in
the
building.
So
the
building
was
only
open.
The
buildings
and
the
units
were
on
the
open
wall.
We
were
on-site
and
then
they
were
boarded
up
and
closed
the
evenings
and
then
reopened
in
the
mornings
so
that
we
could
access
them
again.
Outside
of
that,
they
have
remained
closed.
N
The
church
is
boarded
up
and
is
also
fenced
in
happy
to
meet
with
the
police
department
to
explore
additional
fencing
that
would
more
securely
protect
the
church
if
that's
desired.
In
terms
of
the
shoring.
The
church
has
been
in
its
existing
condition
for
quite
some
time
and
it's
our
understanding
from
meeting
with
engineers
after
the
fire
that
it
is
secured
in
its
existing
condition.
Until
we
proceed
forward
with
the
development
and
at
this
time
we
cannot
take
on
the
bear
to
shore
up
the
church
and
perform.
N
Work
at
this
time,
we
are
absolutely
looking
forward
and
moving
forward
as
expeditiously
as
possible,
because
we
do
want
to
develop
this
property
as
quickly
as
possible,
as
I'm
sure
everyone
see
it
developed
in
terms
of
timing.
We
received
our
approvals
and
then
we
immediately
started
meeting
with
hotel
operators,
I'm,
not
sure
if
anyone
in
this
room
has
experienced
the
process
of
going
through
a
franchise
agreement.
But
it's
about
a
six
hundred
page
document,
which
is
quite
lengthy.
N
In
a
significant
period
of
time,
we
were
able
to
execute
a
franchise
agreement
after
securing
our
operator
after
meeting
with
multiple
and
from
that
period
of
time,
parking
had
always
been
a
topic
of
discussion
at
our
Planning
Commission
hearings,
with
an
inn
as
well
as
with
the
neighbors
who
I
personally
speak
with
on
a
regular
basis.
We
had
then
spoke
with
our
operator
to
see
if
in
relaid,
that
to
the
city
that
we
would
like
to
see
how
we
could
have
incorporated
more
parking
for
the
project
so
that
the
neighbors
were
comfortable
with
everything.
N
B
N
N
O
Every
guest
every
day,
staying
at
every
hotel
on
Bilardo
asks
that
question
and
with
a
string
of
very
successful
redevelopments,
it's
unfortunate
that
we're
gonna
be
looking
at
this
eyesore
for
another
two
years,
guests
from
holiday
house
come
to
as
a
car
guests
from
Avalon
guests
from
Kimpton
guests
from
Ingleside
in
the
350
all
very
successfully
redeveloped
and
every
one
of
them
that
comes
through
pretty
much
on
the
dime
says
what's
going
on
over
cross
the
street.
So
just
bear
that
in
mind
in
terms
of
the
timeframe
of
the
redevelopment.
O
The
other
thing
that
I'd
like
to
say
is
that
the
current
state
of
security
for
the
property
is
completely
inadequate.
I
can
sit
at
the
front
desk
of
the
del
Marcos
and
watch
as
nightfall
falls.
People
climbing
over
the
fence
throwing
their
backpacks
over
the
fence
climbing
over
the
fence.
We
call
the
non-emergency
line.
It's
really
a
drag
to
have
to
do
that
three
four
times
a
week.
The
property
is
not
secure.
The
property
is
not
safe.
The
guests
at
the
del
Marcos
who
park
unbury
stow,
are
regularly
harassed
by
panhandlers.
O
It's
if
we're
gonna,
look
at
it
for
another
two
years
there
needs
to
be
a
serious
upgrade
in
the
security
I
would
advocate
for
a
wooden
fence
with
lighting
perimeter
lighting.
Those
sidewalks
are
in
terrible
condition.
We
have
older
guests
who
have
walkers
and
people
who
are
dressed
up
in
high
heels,
and
the
sidewalk
condition
is
incredibly
dangerous.
All
around
the
perimeter
of
this
property
Lara's
just
spent
a
great
deal
of
money,
upgrading
the
sidewalks
around
the
del
Marcos
and
putting
in
a
sidewalk
that
the
city
required
and
yet
directly
across
the
street.
O
P
Madam
chair
and
members
of
the
Commission,
my
name
is
Dana
bond,
where
I'm
a
resident
at
the
st.
barista
development
directly
across
the
street
from
the
church
and
the
hotel
and
I
recently
became
a
full-time
resident
within
the
last
year.
However,
I've
owned
my
property
for
about
twelve
years
now,
so
I
have
seen
the
progression
or
the
progression
of
the
deterioration
of
this
property
I
believe
the
fire
occurred
five
years
ago.
P
Maybe
six
but
I
think
it
was
five
years
ago
and
I
would
also
point
out
that
there
was
also
a
fire
at
the
smaller,
the
AB
and
the
other
part
of
the
hotel.
Previous
to
that
I'm.
Just
going
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
things
I
have
personally
witnessed
that
have
occurred
at
the
church
in
the
hotel
over
the
time
that
I've
been
here,
I
walk
every
day,
I
walk
by
the
church.
Every
day,
I
have
seen
I
walk
by
at
night,
I
have
seen
homeless.
P
People
on
the
inside
of
the
property
I
have
seen
someone
feeding
stray
cats,
there's
a
pile
of
cat
food
left
on
one
of
the
fences.
Every
night
each
and
every
night
I
have
seen
a
dead
cat
on
the
perimeter
of
the
wall.
There,
in
fact,
I
call
the
city
about
that
cat
so
that
the
city
could
come
and
remove
the
dead
cat.
P
After
seeing
it
there
for
24
hours,
I
have
seen
a
mobile
car
wash
business,
take
residents
from
time
to
time
in
the
parking
lot
adjacent
to
that
burned-out
church,
and
it's
in
fact,
neighbor,
who
I
think
will
testify,
also
has
seen
it
and
has
gone
to
the
people
who
conduct
this
car
wash
business
and
has
asked
them
to.
Please
move
only
to
have
them
return
again.
I
believe
that
this
property
is
the
way
it
is.
I
echo
the
comments
of
the
gentleman
from
the
DeMarcos
that
it
is
an
eyesore,
it's
dangerous.
P
It's
certainly
a
nuisance
and
a
it's
a
nuisance.
To
me,
it's
a
public
nuisance
to
the
city
in
general,
I,
don't
know
how
the
city
can
allow
this
major
part
of
the
downtown
development
to
continue
to
exist
in
its
current
state,
but
I
also
want
to
say,
I've
read
the
material
related
to
the
proposed
development.
I
completely
support
the
proposal
of
a
upscale
luxury
hotel
in
that
area,
but
I
want
to
see
some
improvements
made,
especially
if
the
property
is
going
to
continue
in
its
current
state
for
an
additional
12
18
to
24
months.
E
I
think
the
discussion
here
has
already
yielded
some
additional
steps
that
could
be
taken
so
again.
I
would
encourage
you
to
continue
to
look
at
this
and
not
put
it
off,
for
what
would
essentially
be
another
12
plus
3
15
months,
so
I
would
say,
bring
it
back
in
six
months,
plus
the
90
days.
If
that's
what's,
if
that's
what's
needed,
thank
you
very
much.
K
My
name
is
teri
call
I'm
the
president
of
the
HOA
at
st.
Marie,
stone,
condos
I
support
this
project.
We
want
to
see
it
come
together,
but
it's
an
eyesore
over
there
and
work
ensue.
If
there's
anything
that
can
be
done
to
make
it
more
appealing.
In
the
interim
for
the
next
24
months,
we'd
like
to
see
that
done,
I,
don't
know
if
that's
been
addressed
as
to
what
parents
of
the
building
itself
the
burnt
out.
K
H
K
The
police
and
the
fire
department
to
be
done
picking
up
trash
all
in
fronds,
I,
don't
know
I
know
one
of
you
mentioned
the
unsightly,
no
sand.
It's
too
bad.
There
wasn't
a
picture
of
the
burned-out
church
up
there
for
you
to
see.
Have
you
all
seen
it
the
current
status
of
it?
Okay?
So
basically
the
safety
and
the
appearance
of
it.
Something
has
to
be
done,
but
we
do
support
the
project.
Is
there
any
fine
or
any?
A
N
Sure,
obviously,
the
the
largest
thing
I
think
that
everyone
was
saying
is:
is
the
security
I
know
that
Palm
Springs
Fire
Department,
as
well
as
the
local
police
staff,
is
more
than
top-notch,
and
you
know
very
happy
to
work
with
them
to
come
up
with
a
comprehensive
plan
moving
forward
as
to
what
they
feel
is
best
I
I.
Don't
think
that
I'm
in
a
position
to
to
speak
for
them
as
to
what
they
feel
would
be
required.
N
I
know,
I
have
had
discussions
with
them
in
the
past,
about
maintenance
and
security
and
happy
to
have
a
sit-down
with
him,
or
maybe
even
a
walkthrough.
I
can
even
go
over
to
the
station
immediately
after
this
hearing
to
discuss
what
they
would
like
to
see
and
figure
out
something
that
really
works
if
they
would
like
a
taller
fence
if
they
would
like
wooden
fence
if
they
would
like
something
like
that
to
more
secure
the
property.
N
M
N
A
N
Engineers
have
said
that
in
its
existing
condition
it
it
is
sufficient
to
hold
in
its
place,
I'm,
not
sure
if
anyone
else
in
the
room,
construction
experience
test
to
that.
But.
A
A
D
D
So
site
has
been
an
issue
in
terms
of
the
parking
covenant
and
then
also
the
terms
of
the
agreement
with
the
city
is
something
else
that
has
taken
a
while
for
us
to
go
through
so
again,
based
on
the
difficulties
in
the
location
of
the
site
for
the
additional
parking
and
then
the
specifics
in
terms
of
the
agreements.
What
the
developer
is
going
to
commit
to
that
project
versus
what
the
city
is
required
to
commit
that
project.
It's
taken
us
a
while
to
get
there.
M
B
N
B
B
E
E
D
B
L
B
N
N
C
C
Is
that
better?
Thank
you.
I
thought
I
heard
from
you
from
those
that
testified.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
those
that
came
out
and
testified
very
much.
I
really
appreciate
your
involvement
in
the
political
process
and
in
stuff
that
matters
to
you.
It's
very
important
that
we
hear
it
so
I
want
to.
Thank
you
very
much
for
participating
here
in
this.
What
I
did
here
was
a
strong
support.
No
one
opposed
the
project.
There
was
this.
A
strong
support
for
the
project
overall
I
would
assume
our
Historic
Preservation.
C
Board
also
would
want
the
project
to
move
forward.
What
I
did
hear
were
two
things:
one
was
security
issues
and
the
second
was
esthetic
issues.
I
have
also
heard
the
applicants
say
that
he
is
more
than
willing
to
puff
up
and
improve
the
security
measures
and
work
with
our
place
and
fire
department
on
the
security
measures.
It
still
leaves
outstanding
the
aesthetic
issues
of
what
it's
like
to
walk
by
that
site
on
a
daily
basis
and
I
would
have
concur
with
the
testimony.
We've
heard
that
it
is
not
good.
C
It
is
not
good
to
walk
by
that
site
and
see
it
and
disarray
for
so
many
years.
I
might
propose
that
what
we
end
up
doing
is
putting
up
a
wind
screen
that
is
silk-screened
or
with
what's
coming,
that's
very
common.
We
did
it
for
the
dream
hotel.
It
is.
It
is
a
definite
potential
here
to
basically
skirt
that
site
in
a
screen
that
shows
us
what's
forthcoming.
C
M
M
If
there's
a
break-in
high
enough
fence,
whether
it's
a
fence
or
a
a
mash
or
something
to
just
disguise
the
condition-
I
mean
you
can't
disguise
the
church
with
the
burnt
Timbers
and
all
that,
so
those
would
be
things
that
I'd
like
to
see,
and
then
this
idea
that
the
engineering
you
know
that
was
recommended
in
Geneva
that
worked
with
the
applicant.
That
stated
that
no
shoring
was
required.
M
You
know
how
strong
it
is
as
a
structure
anymore,
so
I'd
like
to
see
that
I
would
like
to
see
all
these
things
completed
before
we
actually
extend
the
time.
I,
don't
know
if
that's
possible,
I,
don't
know
if
we
can
put
in
a
I,
don't
know
a
90
day
or
I,
don't
know
how
long
six
month,
however,
it
would
take
to
do
all
of
these
things,
and
then
we
could
consider
an
extension
I,
don't
feel
comfortable,
giving
an
extension.
A
A
B
I
agree
and
I
do
have
something
to
add
actually
getting
to
some
specificity
as
to
as
far
as
Commissioner
Maruti's
ideas,
because
I
was
having
the
same
ideas.
I
would
like
to
see
a
very
short-term
extension
something
less
than
six
months.
I'd
like
to
see
90
days
and
within
that
90
days,
I'd
like
to
see
a
fully
developed
security,
comprehensive
security
plan
modeled
on
what's
happened
at
Town
and
Country
I'd
like
it
to
come
back
to
Planning
Commission
for
approval.
B
B
So
so
the
as
I
understand
it
from
the
planning
director
sensors
were
added
motion.
Sensors
were
added
at
Town
and
Country
that
would
link
directly
to
the
police
department.
Strobes
would
I
I'm
not
sure
what
the
strobes
do
I
imagine
it
would
alert
passers-by
that
there's
something
going
on
and
smoke
detection
throughout
the
property
hooked
up
to
the
fire
department.
B
And
I'd
like
to
see
all
of
that
returned
back
to
us
within
90
days,
at
which
time
we
can
discuss
whether
we're
satisfied
with
the
report
and
and
then
decide
whether
we
want
to
extend
the
entitlements
for
another
significant
or
significant
amount
of
time
that
that
be.
Might
that
be
a
motion?
Actually,
so
that's
what
I
would
I.
A
Had
already
made
a
motion,
but
I
have
some
questions
for
staff
in
terms
of
what
we
can
do.
I
believe
we
have
the
ability
to
do
a
12-month
extension
or
one
year
or
two
year.
Extension
am
I,
correct,
correct.
So
the
reason
that
staff
had
recommended
90
days
was
that
certain
things
had
to
be
done
within
90
days,
but
that
we
gave
a
one-year
extension
as
opposed
to
the
two
recommended,
so
that
we
would
have
some
control
over
what
happened
with
this
am
I,
correct,
Flynn.
That.
A
The
motion
that
we
would
have
to
make
is
one
for
a
one-year
extension
with
it
coming
back
within
90
days.
Looking
at
that,
just
let
me
suggest
some
alternate
language,
a
one-year
extension
90
days,
I
think
staff
either
assuring
of
the
property
within
90
days
or
an
independent
engineering
evaluation
that
it's
not
necessary,
but
I
actually
liked
staffs
requirement
that
it
be
shirred
within
90
days.
So
it
it.
A
It's
just
the
deterioration
significant
from
the
experience
I
had
as
a
developer
of
a
historic
building
that
had
had
this
kind
of
fire,
so
I
I'd
be
more
comfortable
with
requiring
shoring
and
secondly,
in
terms
of
the
the
security
plan.
I
think
we
want
to
see
a
security
plan
similar
to
what
was
done
for
town
in
country,
with
the
specifics
of
that
being
developed
by
the
fire
department,
planning
staff
and
a
subcommittee
consisting
of
the
chair
of
the
HS
PB
and
either
the
chair
of
whoever
that
person
might
be
of
the
Planning
Commission.
A
A
A
D
B
D
D
Let's
do
this:
let's
have
staff
review
and
approve
the
shoring
or
I
like
the
idea
of
having
the
independent
engineering
evaluation
as
an
alternative
to
shoring.
If
an
engineer
says
it's
going
to
stand
up,
then
I'm
comfortable
with
that
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
building
stands
up.
Secondly,
the
security
plan
similar
to
that
of
the
Town
&
Country.
We
would
have
fire
and
planning
review
that
and
if
you
want
to
involve
the
subcommittee
members,
we
can
involve
them
in
that
plan
as
well.
D
D
A
D
Having
mentioned
the
concern
about
having
visibility
into
the
site
being
important
to
see
if
there
are
trespassers
there,
we'll
review
that
with
the
police
department
and
if
you'll
give
us
some
degree
of
flexibility,
there
we'll
look
at
how
we
can
make
that
aesthetically
pleasing,
while
also
giving
respect
to
could
security
concerns.
I
mean.
M
A
B
Understanding
the
limitation
on
the
amount
of
time
we
can
write
granted
a
extension
I'd
like
to
also
power,
have
some
time
throw
this
out
to
the
Commission.
So
we
got
90
days
to
finish
it
and
then,
after
that
90
days,
the
she's
gonna
be
for
another
nine
months.
Cuz,
that's
a
year
right,
I!
Think
sometime
during
that
nine
month
period,
maybe
45
days
after
that,
we
should
have
a
review
of
the
conditions
of
the
site
to
make
sure
that
you.
B
B
A
A
N
We
are,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
more
than
welcome
to
speaking
with
city
staff,
as
well
as
the
fire
department
in
police
to
explore
further
security
measures.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
understanding,
what's
being
conditioned
correctly
so
following
today,
there
would
be,
if
approved
and
supported.
There
would
be
a
twelve
months
extension
on
the
entitlements.
N
There
would
be
a
90
day
review
period
to
work
with
city
staff,
as
well
as
the
fire
department
in
police
department
for
security
measures,
and
then
there
would
be
an
independent
review
of
the
shoring
in
stability
of
the
church
upon
the
results
of
that
review.
If
shoring
would
be
required,
I'm
just
trying
to
think
of
the
time
frame,
I
don't
see
how
that
would
happen
within
that
same
90-day
period.
So.
D
My
time
frame
would
suggestion
would
be
is
that
we
would
give
the
applicant
upon
the
completion
of
that
report.
We
would
give
the
applicant
another
60
days
to
complete
the
shoring,
we'll
be
able
to
report
back
on
that
within
the
90-day
period,
so
that
Planning
Commission
is
apprised
of
what
the
timeframe
will
be
if
showing
work
is
necessary.
I.
B
N
M
A
C
A
B
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
In
session
we
are
an
item
to
D
3
times
5
Palm
Springs
LLC
request
for
a
conditional
use
permit
in
major
architectural
application
to
construct
36
hotel
suites
with
kitchens
in
each
unit,
a
common
building
with
a
cafe
bar
an
event
space
on
an
undeveloped
1.8
acre
parcel
located
at
2
for
4
to
8
to
South
Indian
Canyon
Drive
staff
report.
Please
good.
L
Afternoon,
madam
chair
members
of
the
Planning
Commission,
so
I
just
want
to
start
by
giving
a
a
brief
background
of
the
site
in
question.
So,
as
you
can
see
on
the
area
view
on
the
monitor
the
undeveloped
area
that
you
see
in
there
is
the
deciding
question
this
site
is
bounded
to
the
west,
by
a
South
Indian
and
to
the
east,
by
Calle
and
sylia
to
the
north,
by
an
existing
hotel
and
to
the
south
by
a
by
an
abandoned
building
that
was
once
occupied
by
a
tire
store.
L
Also
for
the
commissioners
that
were
on
the
Commission
in
2015.
You
will
recall
that
you
approved
a
condo.
You
recommended
approval
of
a
kind
of
a
30
unit,
condo
project
at
this
same
site
in
2015,
you
made
a
recommendation
of
approval
to
the
council
and
they
adopted
an
mnd
and
approved
that
project.
That
project
did
not
move
forward.
The
current
applicant
of
this
project
then
acquired
the
site
and
in
2016
they
proposed
CEOP
for
another
hotel
use
at
the
same
site.
L
You
also
approved
a
hotel
for
according
to
them
because
of
several
reasons
and
I
think
finance
was
one.
Amongst
those
reasons
that
project
did
not
move
and
as
a
result,
you
have
this
new
proposal.
It
is
it
conditional
use,
permit
application
and
also
for
the
hotel
use,
because
this
site
is
within
section
14
and
Indian
land.
It
is
soon
local
serving
commercial.
It
does
allow
hotel
with
the
approval
of
a
conditional
use
permit.
L
It
is
also
accompanied
by
a
major
architectural
application
for
for
the
architecture
and
the
design
itself,
so
those
are
the
two
applications
that
you
have
in
front
of
you
today.
I
just
want
to
again
reiterate
some
notables
a
relative
to
this
project
as
it
is
proposed
to
us.
It
is
a
36
unit,
hotel
and
each
of
the
units
will
contain
a
kitchen.
The
proposal
will
include
a
building
that
is,
there
is
designated
as
building
a
as
you
look
at
the
site
plan.
L
So
this
is
the
overall
site
plan,
building
a
will
be
facing
Indian
Canyon
and
that's
the
building
that
is
regarded
or
designated
as
the
common
building.
It
will
be
used,
as
your
hotel
lobby
will
also
be
used
for
as
a
banquet
hall,
there
will
be
a
cafe
and
bar,
and
this
at
this
hotel
and
also
light
food
will
be
served
at
this
building.
So
the
rest
of
the
building
be
easy
and
the
three-story
buildings
that
is
again
on
the
north
side
of
the
building
of
this
site.
L
Sorry,
those
are
the
that's
building,
that's
the
first
one,
the
second
and
the
third
that
is
facing
Calle
and
Celia,
so
the
applicant
has
proposed
parking
spaces
at
the
Northland
ad,
not
early
edge
of
side
and
also
angled
parking
along
Calle
and
Celia.
So
in
looking
at
the
side
plan,
as
indicated
in
the
staff
report,
there
is
a
pool
on
an
event
space
that
is
just
tough
and
surrounded
with
landscape,
and
some
cabanas
are
the
southern
edge
of
the
sides.
So
there
is
a
cipher.
L
So
some
some
notable
aspects
of
this
project
is
that,
as
with
the
previous
one,
that
you
approved
proteins
is
one
of
the
main
issues
and,
as
a
result,
a
parking
study
and
a
management
plan
was
submitted
by
the
applicant
again.
This
location
is,
of
course,
I
would,
in
the
section
14
specific
plan
area
again
the
proposal
as
we
evaluated
it
is
for
36
unit
but
again
will
contain
up
to
90
rooms.
L
The
reason
is
that
each
of
those
units
we
have
between
two
to
four
bedrooms
each
according
to
the
applicant,
though,
although
36
units
are
being
proposed,
this
could
be
divided
up
to
49
units
by
using
the
lock
of
keys
that
is
dividing
some
of
the
unions
to
allow
up
to
49
units.
The
applicant
may
speak
more
to
that
again
because
it
is
within
the
section
14
area
we
relied
on
the
section,
14
specific
plan
and
also
the
city's
zoning
code
to
evaluate
this
proposal.
L
Looking
at
the
development
standard
in
terms
of
lot
size,
the
lot
with
the
lot
depth
and,
of
course,
the
heights
and
the
setbacks
proposed.
These
are
all
in
conformance
woods.
Our
section
14
specific
plan
area
I've
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
site
plan
this
on
September
4
2018.
This
project
was
presented
to
the
AAC
overall.
They
liked
the
project
the
lightly
design,
but
some
concerns
and
some
comments
relative
first
to
the
landscape
and,
of
course,
to
the
interior
design
of
the
project.
L
That
is,
the
courtyard
area
and
the
edges
of
the
of
the
project,
specifically
the
one
at
the
applicant
to
blink
to
bring
back
an
enhanced
landscape
with
additional
boulders
on
the
west
to
create
a
separation
between
the
borough
and
Indian,
Canyon
or
frontage.
They
wanted
a
pretend
to
add
more
palm
trees
to
enhance
the
layout
in
courtyard
areas
to
enhance
the
the
Hat
keep
outside
the
common
building
and
provide
landscape
break
between
the
pool
area
and
the
bra
and
landscape
awning
on
Kai
and
Syria.
So
I'm
going
to
bring
forward
even
a.
L
L
L
L
But
upon
further
review
of
that
section
of
section
14,
they
can
only
be
credited
four
point:
five
species,
at
least
that's
according
to
the
to
the
evaluation
of
section
14
specific
plan
by
staff,
but
also
that
part
that
portion
requires
that
only
does
creditor.
Does
credit
can
be
given
to
a
project
we
disable
mixed-use
project,
but
the
way
we
evaluated
it
was
that
there
is.
This
project
includes
not
only
a
resort
to
tell,
but
it
does
have
a
bara
cafe
and
a
cafe
and
a
restaurant,
so
that
could
be
interpreted
as
it
mixed-use
project.
A
A
L
But
this
is
36
units
and
also
at
additional
34
spaces
for
the
banquet
hall
and
staff
that
would
that
equals
70
species.
For
this
or
this
use,
however,
because
of
the
uniqueness
of
this
hotel,
the
applicant
provided
a
pattern
study
which
concluded
that,
with
a
management
plan
with
a
parking
management
plan,
it
will
acquire
a
child
require
a
less
than
forty
four
parking
spaces
that
is
according
to
the
to
the
management
plan
or
the
parking
study
study
submitted
by
the
applicant.
L
L
If
I
can
just
go
through
them
on
one
by
one,
so
number
one
is
saying
that,
in
order
for
parking
to
be
effective
at
this
location,
that
a
sign
should
be
placed
at
the
entrance
of
the
parking
of
the
parking
lot
stating
that
parking
is
for
hotel
use
only
number
two
that
the
hotel
operator
may
offer
a
valet
program
during
peak
occupancy
periods
to
assist
guests
in
pattern.
On-Site
that
number
three
encourage
employees
to
write,
bicycles
and
or
utilize
public
transit.
L
I,
decide.
House
tab
also
recommended
some
specific
some
project
specific
conditions.
Should
the
Planning
Commission
decide
to
approve
this
project
and
that's
number
one
that
offsite
parking
if
at
any
point
of
site
parking
is
obtained
by
the
hotel,
the
party
management
plan
can
be
reevaluated
to
incorporate
those
additional
parking
spaces.
Number
two
special
events:
any
special
events
at
the
board,
Palm
Springs,
which
are
open
to
non
hotel
guests,
shall
require
a
mandatory
valet
parking.
L
A
valet
parking
plan
showing
the
ability
for
on-site
stacking
of
vehicles
shall
be
provided
to
the
Department
of
planning
services
for
review
and
approval
prior
to
the
issuance
of
a
certificate
of
occupancy
and
shall
be
included
as
part
of
the
parking
management
plan
for
the
hotel
number
four
bicycle
parking.
The
developments
shall
be
required
to
provide
secure
on-site
bicycle
parking
facilities
for
use
by
patrons
and
hotel
employees,
location
and
design
of
the
bicycle.
Parking
shall
be
approved
by
the
director
of
planning
services
and
also
that
fine
were
finally
regarding
the
sequa.
L
So
when
this
opened
the
original
project
which
we,
which
was
approved
in
2015,
there
was
an
MMD
that
was
certified
by
counsel.
That
M&D
was
reassessed
and
it
was
concluded
that
it
is
sufficient
enough
to
be
the
controlling
sigma
document
for
this
project.
All
the
mitigation
measures
that
were
approved
as
part
of
that
MMD
will
also
apply
to
this
project
and
build
upon
that
staff
is
recommending
approval
and
the
adoption
of
those
proposed
conditions
of
approval,
including
any
additional
conditional
that
the
Commissioner
may
find
feet
for
this
project.
That
concludes
my
staff
report.
A
C
Certainly,
I
can
do
that.
The
AAC
board
I
think
that
captured
several
of
the
comments
in
the
staff
report
and
it's
nice
to
know
that
the
applicant
has
worked
with
those
AAC
compliment
comments
so
readily
and
that's
appreciated.
I
think
a
big
concern
of
AAC
was
what
they
couldn't
discuss,
which
was
parking.
C
I
can
start
with
some
some
questions
and
then
I
might
miss
some
if
you'd
come
back.
So
are
you
able
to
pull
up
the
site
plan,
the
overall
site
plan
of
project
data,
or
this
this
plan
is
fine
right
here?
If
you
look
on
the
far
right
side
in
the
lower
left
for
the
angle,
parking
is
located.
There's
a
dashed
line.
I
assume
that
is
the
property
line.
C
C
G
A
L
C
D
Actually,
let
me
go
ahead
and
respond
to
that
question
just
by
way
of
background.
What
we're
dealing
with
here
is
obviously
not
our
standard
hotel.
You
know
when
our
code
was
written.
Our
zoning
code
was
written.
It
really
anticipated
the
you
know
traditional
model
of
a
hotel
which
is
a
room
with
a
bathroom
and
that's
basically
it,
and
so
our
definition
in
the
code
and
Wade.
The
way
that
we've
typically
dealt
with
these
types
of
properties
in
the
past
is
as
a
standard
hotel
room.
D
This
is
a
different
model
and
what
it's
proposing
is
that
the
unit
will
have
multiple
bedrooms
in
it,
they're
intended
to
be
rented
as
an
entire
unit
to
one
individual
who
may
have
family
members
with
them,
traveling
with
them,
and
so
this
is
something
that
is
not
anticipated
by
our
code.
So
in
terms
of
the
number
of
keys
or
these,
when
we
use
the
term
keys,
we're
referring
to
what
is
able
to
be
rented
in
its
entirety.
D
So,
for
example,
in
building
a
you
will
see
a
unit
that
has
one
key,
but
it
has
two
bedrooms
and
so
again
there's
one
person,
one
individual
who
is
renting
that
unit,
but
there
will
be
multiple
people
staying
within
that
unit.
Some
of
the
units
do
include
three
and
four
bedrooms.
Another
thing
that's
unique
to
this
particular
property
is
on
the
units
that
have
multiple
bedrooms.
D
There
is
the
possibility
that
one
of
the
bedrooms
also
has
an
exterior
door
that
can
be
rented
and
separated
from
the
main
unit,
and
so
that
is
considered
to
be
a
separate
key.
So
under
this
plan
there
are
36
units
with
what
we're
calling
the
lockout
units,
those
that
have
an
additional
bedroom
with
an
outside
door.
D
A
D
Because
it's
not
a
traditional
configuration
of
a
hotel,
as
we
normally
see
it
here,
primarily
because
it
has
multiple
bedrooms
within
the
units,
but
the
units
are
rented
as
an
entirety.
So
yes,
that's
our
interpretation
that
this
is
different
than
what
our
zoning
code
anticipated
in
terms
of
parking
requirements.
C
C
L
Open
to
the
public,
yes,
it
will
be
open
to
the
public.
That
was
why
there's
another
partner
requirements
says
that
if
the
number
of
fixed
seats
are
not
provided
that
for
every
60
square
foot,
there
would
be
there
shall
be
a
one
pattern,
space
provided
and
so
in
calculating
that
there
is
approximately
two
thousand
one
around
45
square
foot
space.
So
in
calculating
that
that
was
how
staff
arrived,
that
additional
34
species
to
be
are
required
by
the
hotel
and.
C
C
M
L
M
M
What
is
the,
how
do
you
define
a
fee
based
permit
system
for
additional
on-site
parking?
What
does
I
mean?
I'm?
Sorry?
Well,
it's
it's
not
an
item.
Nine
reckon
page
525,
the
number
of
parking
spaces
utilized
on
site
she'll
be
controlled
by
the
hotel
management.
Additional
on-site
parking
spaces
may
be
provided
the
a
fee
based
permit
system.
Okay,.
M
M
L
M
L
Cannot
quantify
how
successful
it's
been,
but
you
know
from
studies
and
from
in
working
and
reviewing
this
project.
You
know
before
we
came
up
with
that
condition.
It
is
possible
that
it
will
be
successful
again.
It
will
depend
on
the
approach
taken
by
the
hotel
operator,
and
that
was
why
one
of
the
conditions
that
is
be
brought
back
to
you
in
a
year
to
reevaluate
whether
it
is
working
or
not,
and
that
will
be
part
of
the
the
conditions
that
we
evaluated
in
within
that
time.
So.
M
L
M
M
D
Chair
I'll,
just
jump
in
on
that.
Should
the
applicant
not
be
able
to
find
additional
offsite
parking,
and
that
is
a
possibility.
Looking
at
the
immediate
area
that
there
wouldn't
be
empty
parking
available
for
that
the
option
that
staff
would
have
is
to
then
limit
the
number
of
keys
that
are
available,
because
we
have
to
lock
off
units
that
makes
it
very
simple
for
us
to
amend
their
business
license
to
only
allow
the
maximum
of
36
keys
or
40
keys
based
on
the
number
of
on-site
parking
spaces.
D
So
we
do
have
that
opportunity
to
restrict
their
business
license
and
limit
the
number
of
units
that
they
can
rent
out.
If
there
is
a
parking
problem
in
the
future
and
they're
not
able
to
find
available
offsite
parking
to
address
those
concerns
again,
it's
a
little
bit
problematic
for
us
to
do
that.
But
that
does
exist
as
an
option
is
that
we
can
place
limitations
on
their
business
license
and
then
monitor
that
through
the
tio
te.
But.
M
Number
14
talks
about
a
valet
parking
plan
showing
the
ability
for
on-site
stacking
of
vehicles
should
be
provided
to
the
department
finding
services
for
review
and
approval
prior
to
the
issuance
of
the
certificate
of
occupancy.
So
that
means
that
they
would
have
to
just
put
together
a
plan
shows
that
how
they
would
use
their
valet
parking.
That's.
L
M
M
A
B
C
No,
no,
no!
That's
right.
The.
What
I
recall
was
that
the
concern
was
they
were
looking
at
the
building.
They
were
restricted
to
looking
at
the
building
massing
and
they
felt
that
just
looking
at
the
building
massing
without
looking
at
the
parking
was
problematic
because
the
Parkington
appeared
to
be
sufficient
for
the
building
mass.
C
L
B
L
Yeah
generally,
but
they
will
have
to
get
some
kind
of
understanding
with
the
trash
company.
Sometimes
they
will
do
address.
Those
concerns
of
the
able
to
Mono
Valley
are
trucks
that
that
was
the
main
concern.
It
wasn't
for
aesthetic
purposes
or
the
design
of
the
trash
enclosure
itself
was
just
a
location
that
it
was
cool
clothes
so
too
close
to
building
a
and
a
may
create
some
problems
in
maneuvering
the
trash
disposal,
trucks
and
show
me.
L
Parcel
itself
and
I
guess
what
they
were
trying
to
achieve
is
to
place
it
such
that
trash
could
be
picked
off,
while
the
trash
truck
is
parked
alongside
Indiana
may
be
wrong
on
that,
but
that
was
my
interpretation,
however,
because
this
would
be.
This
is
the
common
building.
It's
gonna,
be
the
lobby
I.
Just
we
just
didn't
feel
comfortable
that
that
would
be
the
appropriate
location
for
it,
and
a
CDI
did
I
agree
with
that
and
encourage
the
applicant
to
look
for
an
alternative
location
within
the
site
and.
A
D
L
A
A
L
At
the
boss,
operation
being
taken
over
an
outside
agency,
I
have
not
I'm,
not
a
world
that,
but
also
I
can
I
can
he's
talking
about
employees.
You,
hotel
employees
I
think
that
the
applicant
can
definitely
speak
to
these
I'm,
not
sure
that
he
will
tell
will
be
a
labor,
intense
hotel,
so
the
number
of
employees
could
be
limited
that
you
say
could
be
on
the
team
if
I'm
wouldn't.
D
A
L
We
did
our
own
analysis
and
again
that
was
the
analysis
is
found
on
page
six
of
the
staff
report,
in
which
thirty
six
bases
were
would
be
for
the
thirty
six
units,
an
additional
thirty
four
for
both
staff
and
the
event
space.
The
building
a
and
now
is
how
we
arrived
at
that
figure
Burroughs,
but
ultimately,
that
the
Planning
Commission
will
make
a
determination
as
to
D.
A
L
Absolutely
we
did
and
that,
because
that
is
not
unread
I
just
didn't
want
to
speak
to
that,
but
the
applicant
was
suddenly
expand
on
that.
Yes,
in
our
discussions
with
them,
did
they
we
were
told
by
the
applicant
that
at
that
time
they
were
actually
looking
into
the
acquisition
of
that
property,
but
I
will
let
them
speak
more
to
that.
C
So
in
the
parking
study
that
was
done
by
the
applicants
consultants,
they
took
it
as
the
number
of
keys.
That
49
is
the
number
of
keys
they
didn't
know.
They
do
not
include
the
event
spaces
that
we
talked
about,
but
then
they
gave
a
10%
reduction
for
people
who
come
by
other
modes
of
transportation.
C
L
It's
no
provision
for
that
in
the
code,
so,
but
because
this
is
a
study
that
was
based
on
either
because
there
are
references
of
what
happens
in
other
jurisdictions
but
specifically
to
hotel
use.
So
that
was
what
we
took
into
consideration.
But
as
far
as
our
code
is
concerned,
no
yeah,
it's
no
such
a
discount
and.
D
They
have
looked
at
things
such
as
how
many
guests
are
going
to
be
coming
via
lyft,
uber,
taxi,
etc,
and
either
the
Planning,
Commission
or
City
Council
has
approved
a
parking
reduction
based
on
the
fact
that
some
visitors
will
not
be
bringing
cars
with
them,
but
ultimately
that's
done
on
a
case
by
case
basis,
looking
at
the
specifics
of
the
property,
its
location
etc,
and
the
information
that's
provided
on
the
users
of
the
project.
Thank.
E
C
Would
I
would
I
would
just
say,
as
you
answer,
that
we
have
a
definition,
so
I
just
wanted
yeah.
So
this
is
a
trap
question.
No,
it's
just
the
reason.
I'm
asking
that
question
I'll
tell
you
right
out
in
the
to
give
the
reduction
they're,
classifying
it
as
a
Resort,
Hotel
and
I.
Don't
think
our
code
would
classify
this
as
a
resort
hotel,
but
I
wanted
to
know
staffs
perspective
on
that.
D
C
M
Q
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
This
afternoon,
I
certainly
heard
all
of
all
of
your
questions
and
comments
very
much
appreciate
all
the
all
of
it
into
it.
I
wonder
who
in
mind
if
I
could
just
give
a
little
bit
of
background
on
our
company
business
model,
because
I
think
it's
heavily
relevant
to
today's
discussion,
which
is
primarily
centering
around
the
parking
I.
C
A
Q
Their
in
their
units,
the
city's
desire
per
the
plan
to
have
something
a
little
bit
closer.
This
was
the
last
time
around
closer
to
Indian
Canyon,
so
that
the
the
frontage
was
a
little
bit
more
transitional
use.
So
we
accommodated
that
so
to
say
that
this
is
open
to
the
public.
I
think
is
not
our
business
model,
but
we
have
it
facing
the
public,
because
that
was
that
was
sort
of
the
request
of
the
city,
so
that
it's
a
pedestrian-friendly
approach
and
then
number
two
and
it
just
in
terms
of
our.
Q
So
that's
that's
pertaining
to
the
proximity,
but
then
I
want
to
just
talk
about
the
actual
use,
we're
not
operating
a
restaurant
here,
so
we
will
not
be
serving
three
meals
or
there
is
a
bar
that
you
walk
in
and
that's
kind
of
our
check-in
counter
similar.
If
you've
been
to
the
arrived
hotel,
you
check
in
there
at
a
bar
so
like
the
arrive,
will
have
a
bar
slash
coffee
check-in.
Q
There
they're
problems
that
are
gonna
live
with
us,
and
so
I
mentioned
that,
because
the
operator
we
have,
we
have
certain
commitments
that
we're
making
to
you
that
we
ourselves
need
to
need
to
uphold,
as
well
as
as
the
property
owner
and
I,
also
say
that,
because
any
kind
of
commitments
that
the
operational
plan
of
bad
nature
or
the
people
who
will
uphold
them.
So
when
we
make
that
commitment
who
has
developers
who
are
also
making
that
commitment
to
you
and
the
third
thing
I
think
I
want
to
say
here-
is
that
really
our
model?
Q
C
Q
To
a
council
meeting
and
we
realized
Haber's,
don't
like
this
model,
so
we
got
out
of
it
and
we
realized
guests
liked
it.
But
neighbors,
don't
like
it,
build
a
hotel
that
it's
centered
around
this
group
traveler
and
so
that
really
our
hotel
is
kind
of
the
new
form
of
hotel,
which
we
hope
will
perpetuate
that.
Q
We
are
sort
of
incorporating
all
that
into
this.
This
is
madam
chair.
I
do
I
did
want
to
mention
that
you
know
I.
Think
one
of
the
important
points
here
is
that
were
we're
shifting
from
a
vacation
model
deliberately
to
a
hotel
model,
so
the
major
major
major
benefit
of
that
is
our
on
staff
in
operation
that
we
can
really
control
things
from
getting
out
of
hand.
Q
For
example,
these
rentals
are
known
for
having
you
know,
parties
that
get
out
of
hand
no
circumstance
is
that
type
of
behavior
allowed
at
our
hotel,
but
you
know,
just
like
you
wouldn't
see
that
at
the
kim
10
or
so
operational
control,
I
think,
is
a
really
big
point
for
us,
but
but
as
it
as
it
pertains
to
the
actual
questions
at
hand,
which
are
obviously
very
much
around
parking.
I
wanted
to
to
just
note
a
few
things
about
our
model
number
one.
Q
As
I
already
mentioned,
it's
very
much
within
our
capacity
to
limit
the
number
of
cars
that
come.
We
message
that,
when
you
book
your
notified,
we
do
this
at
our
other
properties,
you're
notified
of
how
many
cars
you
can
bring,
and
then
you
find
a
few
if
you
break
that,
and
we
know
because
we're
on
site
managing
you
know,
you
know
who
is
coming
and
what
unit
they're
staying
at
number,
two
I
would
say
you
know
you
all
are
aware.
Q
Group
travel
is
a
little
bit
lower
occupancy
than
individual
there's
simply
less
groups
traveling
than
there
are
individual
travelers.
So
our
our
net
occupancy
track
slower
than
regular
hotels
in
this
market
are
probably
around.
Sixty
percent
occupancy
were
in
the
we're
in
the
50s,
simply
because
you
just
don't
sell
as
many
room
nights
and
that's
just
a
just
something
that
comes
with
the
business
model,
and
then
I
also
want
to
talk
about
what
one
of
some
someone
raised.
Q
Q
K
E
Q
Q
We
will
encourage
and
incentivize
employees
to
bike
we'll
also
make
them
our
employees
and
our
guests
aware
of
buz
operating
days
and
hours
as
well
as
lyft
programs
and
things
of
that
nature,
and
then
we're
also
willing
to
commit
to
a
one-year
monitoring
which
Commissioner
routes
a
you
obviously
pointed
out.
The
fact
that
that
could
be
I
have
a
negative
impact
on
our
business.
I.
Think
that
shows
our
commitment
to
this
because
we're
aware
of
the
negative
impact
that
would
have
on
our
business,
and
we
take
that
very
seriously,
because
it
could
hurt.
A
Q
Right,
I
also
want
to
mention
a
couple
other
points.
One
is
compared
to
our
previous
entitlement,
which
we
got
last
time
around
for
the
villa
product.
We
are
providing
more
spaces
per
bedroom.
This
requested
entitlement
and
I
also
want
to
just
go
ahead
and
mention
why
we
didn't
get.
We
didn't
build
that
original
one
and
that
simply
was
it's
a
new
innovative
product
and
just
like
all
of
us
here,
trying
to
wrap
our
heads
around
it.
Q
Q
Veteran
basis
we're
providing
more
parking
spots
and
I
also
want
to
point
out.
Edward
alluded
to
it.
The
site
is
extremely
challenged,
number
one,
it's
incredibly
long
and
narrow.
That
makes
any
kind
of
building
you're
putting
on
at
the
parking
challenging.
This
is
the
third
time
if
we
get
it
in
title.
This
would
be
the
third
time
it's
entitled
and
parking
was
the
number
one
challenge,
all
three
of
them
site.
Q
Further,
it's
on
a
land
lease,
it's
in
section
14,
which
you
know
we
did
receive
tribal
Commission
approval,
but
that
just
makes
it
a
little
bit
more
challenging
in
the
eyes
of
lenders.
Obviously,
in
Palm
Springs
man,
these
products
get
built,
but
it
just
adds
that
additional
layer
of
risk
to
to
lenders
and
things
of
that
nature
so
again,
I
appreciate
your
time.
I
wanted
to
give
this
background,
so
we
could
open
the
discussion,
so
you
could
have
a
little
bit
more
insight
into
how
we're
operating
what
the
business
model
is.
J
E
Name
is
Rob.
Oh,
let
me
turn
this
thing
off.
My
name
is
Robert
friendly
I
am
a
resident
of
Palm.
Springs
I've
got
two
things,
neither
which
have
anything
to
do
with
parking.
Thank
God
where
the
trash
pickup
is
that
part
of
an
in
Canyon.
The
city
is
going
to
change
to
a
two-way
street.
A
trash
truck
stopping
on
the
right
side
of
that
street
in
a
northbound
direction,
is
going
to
create
a
traffic
jam,
we're
talking
about
accident
hazard,
etc.
E
E
The
trash
pickup
is,
is
now
been
modified
so
that
the
collection
or
the
the
the
refuge
underneath
the
public
building
or
at
the
the
southwest
corner
of
the
public
building
is
really
seen.
As
a
repository,
a
temporary
repository
till
it
can
be
taken
by
staff
over
to
the
main
trash
over
often
Celia.
So
while
there
may
be
more
collection
at
the
public
area,
it's
not
seen
that
there'll
be
staff
running
across
that
parking
lot
as
things
fill
up
within
the
public
spaces.
E
E
See
that
as
giving
some
flexibility
to
the
limited
number
of
staff,
as
well
as
having
one
single
location,
that
it
seems
that
it's
just
more
convenient
the
way
we've
talked
about
this
with
the
waste
management
folks
is
they
will
pull
in
off
of
in
Celia
and
then
push
the
trash
out
into
the
parking
lot
Lane
and
then
fork
it
up
and
then
back
back
out.
So
it's
it
seems
like
a
very
convenient
way
and
they
could
also
come
in
off
Indian
Canyon.
E
The
the
design
is
such
that
both
a
fire
truck
and
large
vehicles
can
get
underneath
the
porca
share.
So
it's
designed
for
it's
just
about
fourteen
feet
of
clearance
there,
so
it's
designed
so
that
any
vehicle
can
get
through
there.
So
if
the
trash
chooses
to
come
off
of
Indian
Canyon
proceed
down
the
parking
lot,
that's
also
available,
but
yeah.
We
have
also
the
landscape
architect
here,
Dennis
Cunningham,
so
we've
got.
We
can
answer
any
range
of
questions.
So
thank
you.
E
E
What
happens
a
mission?
You
don't
do
the
whole
thing
100%,
because
if
something
shifts
or
flips
you're
changing
a
lot,
but
you
need
to
bring
enough.
So,
as
you
have
the
basics
to
get
an
approval-
and
in
this
case
the
AAC
said
when
it
came,
comes
to
your
trash,
we're
not
sure
what
you're
doing
and
we
need
you
to
come
back
and
go
to
go
we've
prior
to
getting
building
from
it.
Lance
has
been
going
through,
we've
been
going
through,
it
I've
built
a
number
of
projects,
all
of
them
of
trash.
E
Some
of
you
may
remember
Marvin
ruse,
who
was
the
playing
director
here
many
many
years
ago
as
well
work
for
MSA
for
many
years,
and
one
of
his
first
statements
to
me
was
years
ago
make
trash
your
friend,
because
if
you
don't
you're,
gonna
have
big
problems
and
we've
dealt
over
the
years
with
virtually
seven
or
eight
projects.
Laval
Arif's
was
one
that
we
had
to
deal
with
next
to
the
4845
at
the
villas.
E
That
was
a
challenge
we
dealt
with
that
48
arenas
very
successful.
Even
what
happens
as
they
push
the
trucks
come
in,
they
opened
the
guys
push
out.
They
fork
and
they're
gone
with
the
with
the
comment
was
made
earlier.
Indian
is
not
the
place
to
stop
a
park,
but
the
point
is
we
are
going
to
take
a
look
at
the
trash.
We're
gonna
make
sure
that
it
works
out
and
it
does
go
through
review
again.
E
A
Q
A
Q
You
I
did
want
to
talk
about
our
guests,
so
around
this
hotel
we
built
a
brand,
the
brand
name
and
we
specifically
target
what
we
call
group
lifestyle,
travelers
and
those
are
folks
who
are
largely
multi-generational
families.
So
that
is
one
of
the
newest
trends
out
and
travel
right
now
is
that
baby
boomers
are
now
grandparents
and
they're
traveling
with
their
children
and
their
children's
children.
Q
A
Q
A
A
A
It
there
I'm
having
other
commissioners,
look
like
they
have
questions,
but
that
the
other
one
was
finding
an
altar.
Have
you
taken
this
site
and
valet
park
yet
and
how
many
sites,
how
many
parking
spaces
can
you
get
into
it
if
you
valet
park
it,
and
would
this
work
if
you're
not
allowed
to
use
to
reserve
the
spaces
on
and
sylia.
A
Q
E
A
Q
A
I
think
that
was
I
mean
question,
for
you
is
what
you
can
do
with
it
and
in
terms
of
picking
that
conversation,
the
the
concern
the
reason
I'm
asking
this
much
about
parking
is
the
downtown
is
under
parked,
and
people
who
come
looking
to
go
to.
Restaurants
are
always
looking
for
spaces
and
if
we
lose
any
spaces
to
your
hotel,
it
just
the
city.
The
city
suffers
from
that.
A
Q
A
Q
Q
Q
M
Q
You
know
would
they
hope
they
post
deposits
like
credit
card
pause
like
any
other
hotel
so
and
it
would
be
a
fine
similar
to
if
there
was
excess,
wear
and
tear
on
the
room.
You
would
charge
it
to
them.
You
put
that
in
the
in
the
rental
agreement,
as
well
as
you
make
them
aware,
email
correspondence
with
them
posted
on
the
signs
as
well.
Those.
Q
Q
M
Q
A
good
question:
to
be
honest:
we
haven't
actually
considered
that,
but,
as
you
are
asking
you,
what
comes
to
mind
is
that
we
would
try
to
bifurcate
that
and
be
notified
guests
who
are
at
the
event
that
they're
required
to
use
valet.
We
have
not
run
into
that
instance
yet,
but
I
think
that's
a
very
easy.
M
Q
Yeah
the
what
we
would
do
is
well
the
benefit
we
have
and
the
reason
Dennison
Way
has
decided.
This
way
is
just
the
one
way
in
and
one
way
out,
so
we
would
drive
him
out
through
gaya
and
see
and
then
would
light
him
up
on
the
right
side,
sort
of
as
you're,
alluding
to
kind
of
parallel
parked
there.
So.
C
Q
A
A
Q
A
D
Q
A
A
A
Q
The
second
thing
is
the
lock
offs
intended
use
of
those
lock
off,
there's
nine
of
them.
It's
specifically
to
capture
business
on
Monday,
Tuesday
and
Wednesday.
When
groups
who
were
targeting
are
here
less
frequently,
so
the
intent
is
to
try
to
pick
up
some
occupancy
there
as
I
alluded
to
earlier.
This
is
a
lower
occupancy
product.
So
that's
why
we
have
those
what.
Q
M
Q
Q
C
Q
C
Applaud
the
applicant
for
this
model,
I
think
it's
a
very
interesting
model
and
I
would
like
to
see
this
type
of
a
model
go
forward
and
kind
of
monitor
the
success
of
what
it
is
and
I
think
in
many
ways.
I
think
you've
worked
with
the
design
as
well
on
it.
I,
however,
have
a
problem
with
the
parking.
C
I
have
a
big
problem
with
the
parking
on
many
many
levels
and
I
can
go
into
many
of
them
here,
but
I
do
not
think
it's
consistent
with
our
specific
plan
and
I
do
not
think
it's
consistent
with
our
general
plan.
I
I
really
would
like
to
see
this
maybe
go
back
and
be
reworked
a
little
bit
because
I
don't
even
know,
were
you
going
to
put
the
bicycle
parking,
which
is
a
requirement
of
our
specific
plan
either
and
just
and
in
my
read
of
parking.
C
The
six
point,
four
of
our
of
our
a
specific
plan
is
that
no
parking
can
be
off-site.
We
have
a
section
if
it's
a
mixed-use
project.
This
is
not.
This
is
all
commercial
that
parking
could
be
partially
used
on
sites
off,
but
this
doesn't
apply
in
your
case.
You
have
to
do
major
pedestrian
upgrades,
which
you're
not
doing
in
this
case
so
I,
without
going
through
all
of
the
reiterations
of
it
I'm
really
thinking.
M
Have
to
say,
I
agree
with
what
you're
saying
I
know
in
Caillou's
in
Celia,
when
there's
any
kind
of
activity
going
on
in
arenas
that
those
will
be
used
immediately
and
as
soon
as
the
guest
pulls
out,
someone
will
pull
in
that
isn't
a
guest
just
way.
It
is
that's
just
the
area
that
everyone
wants
to
park
in
because
you
have
walked.
Two
arenas
and
arenas.
Didn't
have
enough
parking
so
that
I
just
don't
think
you
could
count
those
as
hotel
parking
and
you
can't
control
it.
H
H
Both
the
parking
and
driveway
situation
are
very,
very
linear,
very
constrained.
Likewise,
the
North
elevation
of
the
building,
in
my
mind,
is
not
very
successful.
I
applaud
the
addition
of
the
perforated
metal
screens,
but
I
think
those
could
stand
to
have
a
lot
more
attention
paid
to
them.
Perhaps
they
need
to
be
even
more
random
or
have
a
little
bit
more.
H
I'm,
looking
at
the
blow-up
colored
elevations,
actually
yeah,
she
too
would
have
the
exterior
elevations
is
probably
the
best
it
blows
it
up
a
little
bit
more
anyway.
All
I'll
continue
but
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
AAC
did
mention
if
I'm
correct
and
that
they
were
hoping
that
those
screens
would
be
pulled
away
from
the
adjacent
balconies
by
a
little
bit
to
help
them
to
float
a
little
bit
and
I.
Think
that's
a
good
comment.
I
think
they
could
also
stand
to
I
think
some.
H
Some
attention
needs
to
be
paid
at
the
bottom
of
those
screens
as
to
how
they
interceptor
or
land
into
the
landscape
area.
The
adjacent
landscape
area
just
for
even
basic
maintenance
issues,
I
think.
The
other
big
issue,
in
my
mind,
is
just
the
overall
uniform
height
of
the
building
of
the
the
cornice
line.
At
the
top
of
the
building
I
realize
you
have
a
30-foot,
35
foot
height
limit
that
you're
working
under
you
know
for
3
floors,
that's
very,
very
challenging
I.
H
Think
the
rooftop
mechanical
equipment,
that's
shown,
is
actually
shown
very,
very
honestly
on
the
sheet.
Well,
it's
not
numbered,
but
it's
partial
sections,
it's
probably
the
fourth
or
fifth
sheet
from
the
back
of
our
packet,
which
is
a
blow-up
section
which
I
think
you
know
shows
very
honestly
that
the
proposed
parapets
probably
won't
completely
screen
the
rooftop
mechanical,
so
I'd
like
to
hope.
Hopefully,
maybe
staff
can
work
on
building
staff
on
it
can
work.
H
I
would
be
happy
to
have
just
those
parapet
surrounding
a
mechanical,
be
enough
higher
to
one
feel
the
mechanical
equipment,
but
I
think
also,
even
more
importantly,
to
give
a
little
bit
more
variation
to
the
to
the
South
elevation
and
even
the
North
elevation
I.
Think
right
now
the
modulation
of
the
South
elevations
are
quite
successful,
but
I
think
that
additional
screening
of
the
parapet
would
go
a
long
ways
other
than
that
I
think
the
architecture
is
consistent.
H
It's
successful,
it's
broken
down
quite
nicely
so
with
those
common
well,
the
other
thing
is
getting
back
to
the
landscape
architecture.
I
would
think
that,
with
the
length
of
the
driveway
from
Indian
Canyon
to
Calle
and
Celia
that
there
could
be
introduced,
some
some
enhanced,
paving
perhaps
at
certain
points,
almost
as
crosswalks
or
whatever,
to
break
up
the
length
of
the
asphalt
paving.
H
Maybe
the
enhanced
paving
occurs
where
you
have
your
your
basic
access
into
the
courtyards
of
the
building
to
sort
of
further
strengthen
those
those
entrance
points
and
then
maybe
even
at
the
the
Porte
cochere
at
at
Indian,
some
enhanced
paving
would
be
I
think
really
advantageous
at
those
locations.
And
those
are
my
comments.
B
I,
too,
will
talk
about
something
other
than
parking
regarding
the
trash.
Enclosures
I
have
concerns
about
them,
located
adjacent
to
the
pedestrian
right,
aways
public
right
of
ways
and
would
like
to
see
if
there
to
remain
in
those
locations,
I'd
like
to
see
them
enclosed
in
air-conditioned
I,
just
think
having
garbage
piling
up
next
to
the
sidewalk
in
the
summer
is
just
a
prescription
for
a
very
unpleasant
walk
by
particularly
well.
Both
both
locations,
so
I
would
predicate
an
approval
on
that
I
I,
like
the
paving
idea
that
I
think
that
would
enhance
the
project.
B
B
Generally
speaking,
you
know
we
reviewed
the
previous
as
a
metal,
and
there
was
sort
of
this
unanimity
that
this
was
a
great
project
and
you
know,
unfortunately,
the
economics
didn't
work
out
for
that,
and
you
know
that
might
be
sort
of
the
Rolls
Royce
for
the
site.
I,
don't
think
we're
get,
don't
think
we're.
We
can't
really
expect
a
Rolls
Royce
on
this
location
and
I,
get
that
but
I
I
just
think
that
it
seems
overall,
that
it's
been
kind
of
value
engineered
to
sort
of
a
not
a
very
interesting
level.
B
B
There's
there's
a
uniformity
to
the
east-west
elevations.
Get
that
the
excuse
me,
the
north-south
elevations,
the
the
North
elevation
I,
get
why
it
needs
to
be
uniform
and
some
of
the
suggestions.
I
thought
were
good,
but
that
South
elevation,
I
I,
just
feel
that
there
needs
to
be
more
attention
paid
to
it,
and
particularly
the
indian
canyon
presentation
to
the
street.
A
H
I
had
just
one
small
addition
to
my
comment:
I
spoke
about
the
rooftop
mechanical
equipment,
screening
and
I'd
like
to
condition
that
even
the
north
side,
the
North
facing
basically
the
the
screen
wall,
extent
around
the
north
side
as
well.
I
think
when
Indian
Canyon
becomes
two
ways
that
people
driving
down
Indian
that
rooftop
mechanical
equipment,
I
think
would
be
visible,
so
I'd
like
to
ensure
that
it
be
screened
basically
on
all
four
sides,
including
the
North.
Thank
you.
A
So,
first
to
comment,
and
then
if
we
can
get
to
what
our
concerns
are,
the
parking
concern
obviously,
is
one
that
I
have
and
I
do
not
think
that
on
Calle
and
Celia
that
we
can
count
that,
just
from
the
experience
of
living
here
and
trying
to
go
to
restaurants,
that
I
do
think
it
will
be
entirely
parked
up.
I,
don't
think
it
would
be
bad
if
the
hotel
guests
used
it,
but
I,
don't
think
you
can
count
it
because
I
think
it
will
be
snapped
up
when
when
spaces
are
available.
A
Therefore,
I
want
staff
to
go
back
and
look
at
this
I
actually
would
have
liked
staff
to
take
a
stab
at
a
parking
standard.
For
this
kind
of
use.
I
know
it's
new
I
just
felt
like
our
experience
with
vacation.
Rentals
was
in,
and
the
city
has
clamped
down
on
vacation
rentals
as
party
houses,
but
our
experience
still
is
that
they
are
that
parking
and
over
parking
is
really
an
issue,
and
it's
probably
less
of
an
issue
in
a
residential
area
than
it
is
right
here.
A
A
A
Think
they
had
to
do
with
screening,
they
had
to
do
with
the
North
Face
they
had
to
do
with
paving
and
they
had
to
do
with
upping
the
architecture.
A
little
bit
on
this
side,
especially
on
Indian,
am
I
correct.
That
was
your
comment,
but
I
think
we
want
to
capture
those
which
means
this
is
continued.
Q
Q
A
That
is
partially
why
I
wanted
staff
help.
I
was
thinking
something
like
sixty
spaces
and
that's
that's
kind
of
where
my
it
was
two-thirds
of
the
rooms
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
if
that
works
and
I
don't
know
if
I'm
being
too
expiring
too
much,
but
that's
kind
of
where
we're
where
I
was
thinking
we
had
to
get
but
I,
don't
know
if
that's
the
right
answer
and
would
need
staff
help.
I.
C
Would
agree
we
needs
to
have?
If
you
look
at
our
code
verbatim,
you
really
would
need
to
provide
90
parking
spaces.
You
know,
40
is
quite
quite
a
stretch
from
90
and
I'm,
looking
at
it
verbatim
and
I'm,
looking
at
it
through
the
definition
of
guest
room
and
the
definition
of
room
and
the
definition
of
suite
that
we
currently
have
in
our
zoning
code.
However,
I
think
that
staff
has
brought
to
us
the
ability
for
some
flexibility
and
something
of
this
design.
C
I
just
think
the
difference
between
40
and
90
or
even
70,
which
staff
is
recommending,
is
quite
a
difference.
So
something
is
going
to
have
to
give
to
make
the
parking
kind
of
work
for
everybody
and
we'd
like
to
see
it
work
for
you
as
well
I
mean
it
would
be
my
goal.
Is
it
should
I
never
work
for
you
as
well.
D
Will
go
ahead
and
work
with
the
applicant
in
looking
at
ways
that
we
might
either
be
able
to
increase
parking
or
come
up
with
a
ratio,
that's
more
comfortable
for
the
Planning
Commission.
Based
on
your
comments,
what
I
would
recommend
that
we
do?
Is
we
continue
this
to
a
date
certain,
because
this
is
a
conditional
use
permit
and
a
public
hearing,
and
my
recommendation
would
be
that
we
continue
it
to
our
first
meeting
in
December.
D
A
H
D
D
D
The
bad
news
is
that
I
have
currently
12
items
for
our
December
12th
meeting,
which
also
goes
with
the
12
days
of
Christmas
I.
Don't
know
we
are
looking
at
alternative
dates
and
one
of
the
suggestions
I
had
from
my
staff,
which
I
thought
might
actually
function,
is
if
we
do
planning
commission
all
on
one
day
with
those
items
we
start
early
in
the
morning,
take
a
break
of
about
an
hour
and
a
half
for
lunch
and
then
continue
on
in
the
afternoon.
D
That
way,
we
only
have
to
have
one
Planning
Commission
meeting
during
the
month
of
December
and
that
we
don't
have
to
schedule
a
second
date.
I
was
just
wondering
if
that
would
be
acceptable
to
the
members
of
the
Planning
Commission
yeah
I
think
we
could
I
believe
that
we
would
start
at
9
a.m.
in
the
morning.
We
would
take
a
break
at
noon
for
lunch
and
then
continue
on
at
1:30
in
the
afternoon.
Until
we're
finished,
do.
M
D
And
we
had
originally
anticipated
that
that
would
occur
on
November
the
28th.
However,
the
city
manager
is
indicated
that
that
date
would
not
be
available
for
the
joint
meeting.
There
is
an
item
on
tonight's
City
Council
meeting
to
set
a
date
for
that
joint
study
session.
So
I'll,
let
you
know
the
outcome
of
that
discussion
this
evening.