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From YouTube: Planning Commission | November 18th, 2020
Description
Part 2
A
B
This
is
an
independent
living
senior
facility,
very
similar
to
segovia
very
similar
to
the
other
projects
out
in
palm
desert
and
rancho
mirage.
There
are
like
four
or
five
of
them
and
they
get
those
kind
of
rents
because
the
residents
get
meals,
they
get
housekeeping
it's
a
very
different
model
than
in
a
part
that
I
mean
you
see
it
as
apartments,
but
the
operation
is
independent
living
for
seniors.
A
Okay,
as
far
as
the
architecture
or
sort
of
the
facade
of
the
building
on
tap
with
before
it
seemed
that
you
had
this
playful
shaded
louver
light
that
has
this.
You
know
on
and
off
kind
of
shading
it
kind
of
played
with
the
with
the
building
exterior
wall,
and
now
it
seems
that
you
have
this
repetitive:
push
and
pull
push
and
pull
for
about
300
linear
fees.
What
was
the
design
intent
behind
that.
B
C
Yeah
well
to
increase
the
units
and
I'm
going
to
work
from
the
units
back
into
the
project
to
increase
the
units.
Obviously
we
had
to
make
them
a
little
narrower.
So
within
each
wing
we
increased
more
units
along
each
facade.
We
wanted
to
keep
the
rhythm
of
the
of
the
stone
and
keep
it
on
the
same
elements
that
we
had
before
and
the
bump
outs.
C
So
that's
that's
why
it
appears
a
little
more
push
and
pull
on
the
on
the
ends
where
you
were
where
you
were
referring
to
where
we
had
the
the
canopy,
the
canopies
cantilevering
over
there
it
just
with
the
the
configuration
of
these
units.
It
was
very
difficult
structurally
to
make
that
work
without
enormous
amount
of
costs
to
put
in
for
those
canopies
to
cantilever
in
two
directions,
and
so
what
we
did
is
we
put
the
balcony
there
and-
and
still
you
know,
have
that-
that
movement
on
the
building.
C
C
D
C
C
I
could
answer
that
lauren.
If
you
want
sure
yeah
it's
a.
I
don't
want
to
talk
about
capacity
yet
because
I'll
talk
more
about
water
square
footage
versus
previous
and
now
is
like,
like
lauren
said,
we
are
going
to
reconfigure
the
pool
a
little
bit
to
have
both
both
amenities,
the
resort
and
the
lab.
So
the
original
pool
was
approximately
four
forty
one
hundred
square
feet
of
water
surface
area
and
the
pool
that
we're
gonna
propose
here
will
be
probably
around
thirty
nine
hundred
to
four
thousand.
B
And
let
me
just
say
that
if
we
were
trying
to
get
this
the
these
changes
made,
I
asked
them
to
put
out
frankly
a
placeholder
for
the
pool
that
looks
smaller.
But
my
intention
is
to
I
mean
I
have
a
lot
of.
I
had
a
lot
of
land
there
and
my
intention
is
to
put
a
pool
that
is
essentially
equivalent
to
the
resort
pool.
B
I
believe
that
there'll
be
people
who
will
want
to
use
it
for
exercise,
but
I've
always
felt
that
this
is
like
a
a
community
that
I'm
trying
to
create
a
community
for
the
gay
community
seniors,
and
I
expect
that
there'll
be
a
gathering
area.
So
I
want
both
elements
of
the
pool
and
recently
we're
shown
a
design
that
kind
of
offers
both
of
those.
But
it
will
ultimately
be
the
same
size
as
the
one
before.
C
C
A
C
C
A
C
Just
my
question
to
you
is:
would
you
be
amenable
to
us
requiring
shade
trees
along
those
walking
paths,
because
it's
very,
very
hot,
and
if
your
target
demographic
is
senior
citizens
and
you
intend
for
them
to
walk
through
these
walking
paths?
Are
you,
okay
with
us
conditioning
that
shade
trees
be
planted
on
both
sides
of
that
yeah.
B
I
mean,
I
think,
our
intention-
and
I
think
it's
it's
expressed
in
this-
that
we're
we're
going
to
use
the
same
trees
that
we
had
already
submitted
in
the
last
project
and
and
they're
essentially
cheat
trees.
Of
course,
I'm
going
to
have
shade
trees,
because
these
are
yeah
very
tight
in
palm
springs.
C
C
B
Yes,
I
think
that's
what
that
was
what
was
designed.
You
know,
as
as
glenn
said,
this
was
in
connection
with
our
seeking
to
be
to
to
get
the
right
to
put
pet
services
in
the
building.
There
was
nothing
in
in
the
retail
building.
There
was
nothing
about
our
project
that
required
any
public
benefit,
but
for
that,
but
we
did
agree
to
put
in
a
water,
fountain
and
benches
and
there'll
be
a
big
shade
tree.
C
Well,
yeah,
I
appreciate
that,
mr
because
in
fact
our
pedestrians
a
lot
of
people
that
rely
on
public
transportation,
it
is
very
very
hard
for
people
to
navigate
the
last
mile
from
their
bus
stop
to
wherever
they're
going
so
having
a
little
bit
of
respite
from
the
sun
and
the
ability
to
drink.
Some
water
really
could
save
a
person's
life
at
some
point
in
time.
So
I
think.
B
A
C
C
Yes,
so
that's,
but
I
appreciate
you
pointing
that
out.
That's
why
my
concern
is
more
with
that
public
amenity
and
whether
it
would
be
sufficient
for
people
that
really
needed
to
rest
their
feet
as
they
make
their
way
from
point
a
to
point
b.
That's
all
my
questions!
For
you,
gentlemen.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Manager.
E
Commissioner,
thank
you
just
a
couple
of
questions
you
mentioned
when
we
were
first
reviewing
this.
I
remember
being
told
that,
although
there's
a
dining
room,
there
was
not
a
specific
meal
plan,
it
would
just
be
you'd,
go
and
have
dinner
and
you'd
pay
for
the
dinner.
If
you
didn't
want
dinner,
you
wouldn't
pay
for
the
dinner,
but,
but
you
just
mentioned
in
terms
of
the
rent
would
include
meals.
Is
that
correct.
B
E
Okay,
I,
I
think,
that's
a
good
idea.
I
think
we
all
expressed
the
idea
that
you
should
have
had
a
plan,
a
meal
plan
and
the
original
idea
of
the
operating
plan,
because
I
think
it
will
contribute
to
community
I'd
also
strongly
urge
you
to
include
a
community
garden
area.
I
do
have
a
question,
though,
in
terms
of
the
exterior
parking:
what
is
the
furthest
distance
a
resident
would
park
and
then
before
they
entered
the
building.
E
E
E
F
F
There
was
a
nurse
on
staff.
You
know
it
was
it's
a
whole
different.
It's
all
different
model
completely.
Actually,
I
guess
the
term
apartment
is
very
misleading
because
my
mother
had
to
pay
a
large
fee
to
enter
and
then
paid
a
monthly
fee,
but
never
was
considered
in
a
well
an
apartment
per
se.
Anyway,
these
these
independent
living
facilities
often
have
financial
troubles
and
unless
they're
very
well
managed,
I
mean
what
experience
do
you
have
in
managing
an
independent
living
facility.
B
A
B
And,
and
while
it
is,
I
mean,
I
understand,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
confusion
about
senior
housing
and
independent
living
versus
assisted
living,
and
you
know
some
of
them
are
independent
living,
but
they
provide
assisted
living
services.
You
know
for
an
extra
fee,
but
but
in
my
mind
this
is
about
seniors.
It
was
always
about
seniors
as
a
condominium.
B
F
D
D
B
We've
only
talked
about
it,
you
know
in
in
concept,
but
I
mean
the
idea
was
that
we
were
going
to
build.
We
were
going
to
place
more
trees
along
hermosa
than
perhaps
we
were
going
to
have
before
to
create
that
buffer,
and
I
thought
that
the
plan
to
date
showed
something
like
that
sheriff.
I
didn't
mention.
G
B
A
C
D
D
B
B
D
D
B
B
B
G
Chair
to
be
clear,
so
there
is
a
final
pd
that
will
be
submitted
and
reviewed
by
the
planning
commission
so
that
that
would
include
a
final,
a
very
specific
landscape
plan.
So
if
you
remember
they
had
groups
of
trees,
so
they
could
pick
from
a
palo
verde
to
a
tippu
to
mesquite,
so
they
haven't
nailed
the
shade
tree
down
yet
or
a
lot
of
the
other
plants.
But
they
will
come
back
to
planning
commission
with
the
aec.
Reviewing
the
landscape
plan.
A
D
G
D
D
A
B
Think
there's
some
misunderstanding.
I
I
glenn
glenn
said
that
that
was
the
shape
structure
that
we
had
chosen.
I've
been
asked
what
what
the
look
was
that
I
was
trying
to
achieve
and
what
I
was
trying
to
convey
the
so
that
is
not
necessarily
the
shape
structure.
In
fact,
robert
rotman,
my
designer
has
recommended
that
we
don't
have
a
curvilinear
that
we
have
a
flat.
What
I
was
trying
to
convey
is
that
the
shape
structures
will
be
rather
than
these
ponderous
heavy
things.
C
C
C
B
B
G
G
A
A
F
F
E
Changes
from
cortana
to
to
cortan
to
powder
coat.
I
think
they
need
to
commissioner
songs
point.
They
need
to
look
at
the
rhythm
of
the
balconies
and
the
projections
because
that's
changed
substantially
and
then
those
end
elevations
have
changed
as
well.
So
I'd
like
to
get
the
aac's
input
on
a
preliminary
level,
because
I
don't
want
this
going
back
to
aac
with
with
everything
decided
and
then
they
feel
like
well
gosh.
E
D
D
G
No,
the
if
the
planning
commission
were
to
approve
the
amendment
it
would
go
to
aac
the
landscaping
would
go
to
aac.
The
final
pd
would
come
back
to
the
planning
commission
that
would
have
the
details
of
the
building
elevations,
the
the
the
site
plan,
all
the
the
they
they
have
to
be
ready
to
go.
They
they
have
to
start
construction
within
six
months
of
when
the
the
final
pd
is
approved.
G
C
D
D
D
I
don't
think
that's
completely
off
the
table,
because
one
of
the
things
you've
discussed
is
we're,
making
a
conversion
and
we're.
We
were
asked
to
accom
for
conversion
to
apartments,
but
it
actually
is
a
different
business
model
than
an
apartment
model.
So
I
think
concerns
about
that
are
in
order
as
well.
D
E
E
E
Maybe
we
don't
have
this
grand
entry
drive
off
of
hermosa,
maybe
it
comes
off
of
chocolates
and
and
you
can
get
more
parking
closer
to
the
building,
but
I'm
trying
to
picture
300
feet
in
my
mind,
and
I
think
it's
from
my
house
to
the
corner
and
I'm
about
five
houses
from
the
corner.
I
wouldn't
want
to
have
to
carry
my
groceries
that
far
in
all
well
any
month
really,
but
in
august
to
get
into
you
know
to
a
conditioned
space.
I
think
that's!
That's
that
that's
problematic
for
me.
E
E
F
F
You
know.
I
understand
there
are
a
number
of
these
in
rancho
mirage.
I
just
like
to
have
some
understanding
of
how
or
why
they
are
successful,
and
if
there
was
any
information
on
which
ones
weren't,
and
why?
Because
what
I
just
don't
want
to
happen
is
if
this
thing
didn't
work
for
whatever
reason,
people,
you
know
elderly
people,
they
would
have
to
move
out
and
it
would
be
rather
traumatic.
So
I
just
want
to
better
understand
the
model.
F
D
D
C
C
I
agree
with
commissioner
hirschbein
that
the
applicant
should
look
for
other
parking
opportunities,
because
it's
not
just
the
300
feet
to
the
entrance,
if
you're,
actually
in
one
of
the
far
units
on
the
third
floor,
it's
a
significant
difference.
It
seems
to
me
that
the
center
of
the
y,
where
the
old
swimming
pool
was,
might
offer
opportunities,
but
it's
not
for
me
to
figure
out
so
consider
additional
parking
opportunities
closer
to
the
building.
C
It
doesn't
mean
the
water.
I
mean
the
whole
pavilion,
the
swimming
area,
that
the
public
parklet
will
have
water,
fountain
benches
and
shade
trees,
that
the
walkways
will
have
shade
trees
on
both
sides
and
that
at
least
10
percent
of
the
trees
will
be
fruit
bearing
trees,
and
I
bring
this
up
again
because
it's
part
of
our
path
to
sustainability,
document
and
they've
done
a
wonderful
job
of
including
the
solar
by
law.
C
But
we
sometimes
forget
about
the
trees
and
I'd
like
to
share
with
my
fellow
commissioners
that
today's
applicant
is
proposing
apartment
buildings
designated
as
assisted
living
in
some
form
or
another.
But
we
know
that
buildings
last
for
decades
and
we
don't
know
what
a
future
use
would
be,
and
I
think
it
should
be
designed
for
one
day.
A
D
A
Yes,
I
would
like
to
add
the
previous
design
considered
takwitz
as
the
main
public
boulevard
or
major
thoroughfare
type
of
scale.
It
had
lime,
trees,
it
had
shaded
sidewalks
in
a
way.
I
am
completely
agree
in
a
agreement
with
commissioner
lewin,
I'm
just
putting
qualitative
words
to
enhance
the
fact
that
there
there
was
that
kind
of
sensitivity
to
passwords
and
promoza
and
those
have
been
lost.
So
I
think
it's
very
important
to
the
scale
of
this
project
that
the
landscape
is
designed
in
conjunction
to
what
it
does
to
the
building.
A
The
second
thing
is
that
perhaps
to
commissioner
marouzi's
point
is:
maybe
mr
ostrow
would
provide
a
plan
b
and
a
plan
c.
So
if
the
dining
model
of
independence
living
doesn't
work
out,
then
he
has
a
plan
b
of
because
I'm
pretty
sure
mr
ostrow
going
to
keep
this
project
ongoing
for
a
very
long
time
and
then
the
last
part
is
to
mention
the
fact
that
they
are
very
open
to
reducing
the
number
of
parking
spaces
to
increase
the
landscape,
variance
as
well,
and
that's
all
I
have
thank
you.
D
So,
actually
so
I
would
go
and
just
say
that
the
number
of
parking
spaces
be
be
reduced
in
what
we
see
by
11..
My
concerns
with
this
are
seeing
a
sea
of
parking
along
chocolates
that
looks
not
like
an
urban
model,
but
a
suburban
model
of
a
sea
of
parking
in
front
of
a
building
I
want
talk
with
chocolates
is
really
important
and
the
way
the
parking's
been
handled
changes.
The
just
changes
the
feel
from
the
street-
and
I
think,
is
how
that's
handled
is
really
important
to
us.
D
I
would
like
to
see
this
planned
out
so
that
we're
seeing
a
a
preliminary
plan
that
isn't.
I
would
like
to
to
change
this
later
and
we
see
something
that
we
can
when
we
get
the
final
we
can
compare
it
to
so
I
agree
with
everybody
else's
comments,
but
but
chocolates
the
treatment
of
chocolates
and
the
parking
is
significant
to
me.
I
do
believe
that
we
also
this.
Would
this
needs
to
go
to
the
the
concept
of
changing
two
apartments
and
going
to
122
units?
D
Is
perfectly
fine
with
me,
but
I
don't
think
that
the
the
changes
being
as
major
as
they
are,
especially
the
changes
to
landscape
and
parking
that
you
have
done.
You've
really
changed
what
the
project
looks
like
and
we
need
to
see
something
that
is
going
to
work.
So
I'd
like
it
to
go
to
aac,
to
look
at
the
changes
on
the
buildings
and
also
have
them
come
back
to
us.
A
Yes,
I
I
do
want
to
thank
the
design
team
and
the
developer
for
increasing
the
setback
to
the
buildings
and
creating
a
smaller
footprint.
It's
it
really
gives
more
breathing
room
and
also
to
sympathize
how
challenging
it
is
in
the
construction
world
to
put
the
financing
together
for
a
project
of
such
scale.
Thank
you.
C
I
I
don't
disagree
at
all
and
madam
chair,
I
wanted
to
thank
you
for
identifying
what
was
in
my
head,
that
I
couldn't
articulate
and
it
is
so
much
of
it
is
the
and
commissioner
song
that
the
change
to
talkwoods
canyon
boulevard,
which
is
kind
of
our
wilshire
boulevard.
In
a
sense,
it
is
a
major
thoroughfare
from
the
airport
to
the
downtown
and
I'm
not
the
architect.
G
A
D
Yes,
can
I
ask,
as
we
call
the
role,
I
think
it
would
be
really
good
to
call
the
maker
and
seconder
of
the
motion
first
and
then
go
through
the
role.
It
always
puts
the
newest
commissioners
on
the
spot.
To
have
them
be
the
very
first
people
voting
on
something.
I
noticed
that
this
is
the
way
city
council
calls
the
role,
and
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
we
did
that
yes
sounds
good.
D
A
D
D
Thank
you
moving
along
to
2d
desert
aids
project
in
partnership
with
the
coachella
valley,
housing
coalition,
for
an
amendment
to
a
planned
development
district,
a
general
plan
amendment
to
change
the
land
use
designation
from
p
dash,
p
q,
p
and
mdr
to
mixed
use,
multi-use
review
of
a
draft
development
agreement,
adoption
of
a
mitigated,
negative
declaration
for
sequa
and
a
major
architectural
application
for
the
addition
of
eight
of
an
eight
000
square
foot
medical
office
state
and
the
construction
of
a
61
unit.
Special
needs
housing
complex
located
at
1695,
north
sunrise
way.
G
Thank
you
chair,
madam
chair.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
for
my
presentation,
I'm
going
to
focus
on
the
technical
aspects
of
the
project
and
then
on
the
and
go
over
some
of
the
actual
design
elements,
but
the
architectural
team-
that's
here
before
you
today,
will
do
a
much
better
job
than
I
will
so
I
will
focus
on
some
of
the
determinations
the
planning
commission
needs
to
make.
So,
as
you
mentioned,
this
is
the
desert
aids
project.
G
The
other
second
application
is
an
amendment
to
the
plan
development
district
281,
which
was
for
the
desert
aids
project,
and
that
is
to
expand
the
boundary
of
the
pd
to
include
all
projects.
I'm
sorry,
all
properties
owned
by
desert
aids
project
for
a
total
of
13.2
acres.
It
also.
The
amendment
will
also
establish
development
standards
for
setbacks,
a
setback
reduction
for
the
residential
building
and
an
increase
in
building
height
and
calculation
of
density.
G
So
in
this
slide,
this
is
the
overall
site
plan.
That's
proposed
for
the
desert,
aids
project
expansion
and
the
61
unit
housing
complex,
it's
located
at
the
corner
of
visticcino
and
sunrise,
and
the
applicant
will
go
over
some
history
as
to
how
the
project
has
evolved
over
time.
But
this
slide
is
just
to
show
you
the
relative
location
of
where
the
project
is
is
at
so.
The
first
application
is
the
general
plan
amendment,
which
is
to
change
the
use
from
p,
which
is
professional
and
quasi
quasi-public
and
mixed-use
development.
G
This
allows
the
boundaries
of
the
pd
to
expand,
to
include
all
the
properties
that
are
shown
here
on
this
site
plan
and
also
allows
deviations
to
the
development
standards
in
looking
at
the
general
plan.
Land
use
designations,
you'll
see
that
vista
sunrise,
one
which
is
the
residential
complex
that
was
built
a
few
years
ago
on
the
corner
here
in
vistacino
and
then
the
actual
clinic
building
and
the
annex
building,
which
is
the
former
riverside
county
health
building
here,
and
the
parking
lot
or
zone
pqp.
G
And
then
the
vacant
lot
where
the
residential
housing
will
be
built
is
medium
density
residential,
as
well
as
the
sunrise
business
office.
Building
where
dap
has
their
administrative
offices
currently,
so
the
proposal
will
be
to
change
all
of
these
land
uses
to
mixed
use
and
you'll
notice
on
the
top
of
the
slide.
G
G
G
So
the
major
architectural,
as
I
mentioned,
is
the
18
000
square
foot
pavilion
this
office
addition
bridges,
the
the
gap
between
the
health
clinic
and
the
annex.
Building
there
are
changes
proposed.
The
sunrise
way
elevation
the
construction
of
the
apartment
complex
and
then
a
new
dog
park
retention
basin
at
the
rear
of
the
property.
D
G
G
I
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
and
the
commission,
what
you
see
on
the
screen
right
now
is,
like
glenn,
said
it's
an
existing
picture
of
what
the
medians
are
now.
Currently,
the
there
was
a
traffic
study
done,
which
is
in
your
packet,
and
after
discussing
this
with
the
applicant
and
the
city
engineer
and
the
traffic
engineer,
there
was
quite
a
few
items
that
we
discussed,
one
of
them
being.
I
One
of
your
attachments
is
the
traffic
analysis
and
it
is
going
to
be
page
9
exhibit
1-4,
which
is
alternative
number
2,
which
is
what
the
city
is
requiring
of
the
applicant
to
be
built,
and
in
that
exhibit
you
can
see
where
there
is
no
traffic.
No,
there
is
no
additional
traffic
signal
to
be
built,
all
of
sunrise,
with
the
exception
of
the
left
in
for
the
what
would
be
in
the
future.
I
The
back
of
house
deliveries,
with
the
exception
of
that
left
in
going
northbound
on
sunrise,
all
of
sunrise
will
be
right
in
right
out
only
the
turn
pocket
that
is
just
south
of
vistacino,
for
the
two
left
turns
going.
Northbound
will
be
made
longer
so
that
that
queuing
can
hold
more
cars.
That's
part
of
the
ultimate
build-out
of
vista,
chino
sunrise
that
will
be
made
to
a
total
length.
I
believe,
was
300
feet
350
feet,
something
like
that
be
slightly
longer
than
what
it
is
now
and
after
a
lot
of
discussion.
G
Thank
you
rick,
so
in.
In
summary,
there
originally
was
a
traffic
light
proposed
at
this
intersection,
where
you
come
out
of
the
south
portion
of
the
inline
building
at
the
stator
brothers
shopping
center
to
go
across
where
the
new
apartment
building
would
be
built.
So
part
of
the
design
is
that
these
medians
will
be
extended
and
landscaped.
G
G
So,
looking
at
continuing
on
looking
at
parking,
there
was
a
discussion
of
of
the
required
parking,
that's
proposed.
So
for
the
the
vista
sunrise,
two
apartments,
there
will
be
61
apartments.
However,
there
are
proposing
31
parking
spaces
and,
within
the
the
zoning
code,
section
92.23.17
allows
special
needs
housing
developments
to
be
calculated,
a
different
parking
ratio
than
what
normally
would
be
required
for
multi-family
residential.
G
So
going
back
to
the
site
plan,
the
vista
sunrise
apartments
located
here,
the
31
parking
spaces
will
be
located
around
the
perimeter
of
the
site.
These
spaces
will
also
have
carports
that
will
shade
the
parking
themselves
and
then
the
remainder
of
the
parking
for
the
the
development
is
to
the
rear,
and
that
is
existing.
G
Today
there
are
some
additional
parking
that
is
added
along
the
very
back
and
then
the
parking
at
the
dap
sunrise
business
center,
where
the
admin
offices
are
here,
there
is
no
vehicle
connection
between
the
business
center
and
the
rest
of
the
campus.
There
is
a
pedestrian
connection,
but
not
a
vehicular
connection,
so
part
of
the
plan
will
be
to
reorient
the
opening
the
opening
sequence
to
get
into
the
the
complex
and
you'll
see
that
there's
a
little
curvature
and
the
applicants
will
go
over
a
detailed
design
analysis.
G
Normally
it
would
be
required
to
be
the
same
height
as
the
building
of
30
but
they're
requesting
that
it
be
set
back
25
feet.
However,
the
building
elevation,
the
third
story
of
the
building-
starts
several
feet
back
and
they'll.
Give
you
an
exact
dimension
so
that
the
building
that
faces
sunrise
is
two
stories
and
it
steps
back
to
a
third
story.
G
Within
the
my
slides
here,
there
are
floor
plans
that
you
have
a
that
show
a
community
room
on
the
first
floor,
so
there
will
be
a
live-in
resident
manager
that
manages
the
building
and
the
coachella
valley.
Housing
authority
representative
will
go
into
greater
detail
on
that
in
just
a
minute,
so
there
are
building
elevations
showing
how
the
floor
plans
relate
to
one
another.
G
So
this
slide
shows
the
multi-purpose
education
center,
the
computer
lab
officer,
manager's
office,
the
lobby
and
then
also
there's
a
laundry
room.
On
the
first
floor,
the
building
materials,
the
applicant
will
go
into
greater
detail
on
the
mosaics
that
are
proposed
and
the
different
colors
and
design
materials.
G
So
there
are
details
of
the
types
of
trees
that
are
proposed:
tippus,
palo,
verdes
and
also
other
sculptural
trees
to
provide
presence
and
a
sense
of
arrival
to
the
vista
sunrise
entrance
and
as
including
pavers
for
the
pavement
of
the
streets
and
looking
at
the
dog
park
there.
It's
a
suppressed
detention
basin,
you'll
see
that
it
includes
dg
and
some
gravel
rocks
and
rubble
and
then
some
turf
with
trees
within
the
retention
basin
itself.
G
They're
also
including
they'll,
discuss
the
types
of
hard
scape
materials,
including
the
walls,
the
pavers
that
are
proposed,
benches
and
fences,
and
also
including
lighting,
there's
bollards.
There
are
tall
lights
to
light
the
parking
lots
and
also
there
are
shade
structures
that
will
be
placed
over
top
of
the
parking
lot
areas
and
they'll
also
be
solar
and
that's
what
this
plan
shows
is
the
schematic
lighting
plan
for
the
site.
G
G
Color
samples
provided
for
a
final
pd
review.
The
gate.
Would
it
be
possible
to
gate
the
service
driveway
from
vista?
I'm
sorry
from
sunrise
into
the
back
of
house
operations,
the
copper
roof
on
the
annex
building
should
be
re-studied
for
final
pd
review,
the
dog
park,
access,
landscaping
and
fencing
to
be
redefined
or
I'm
sorry,
refined
and
then
enhanced
landscaping
along
sunrise
way
in
vistacino.
G
G
It
was
circulated
for
the
required
20
days.
Staff
received
very
few
comments
and
those
comments
were
all
all
addressed.
So
from
the
m
d,
there
was
mitigation
measures
that
include
biology
resources,
cultural
tribal,
cultural
and
also
noise,
impacts
and
sure.
When
we're
finished,
the
sql
consultant
will
be
able
to
address
the
commission
whenever
we
call
upon
them.
G
So
our
recommendation
is
that
the
planning
commission
recommend
to
approval
the
city
council.
The
general
plan
amendment
the
amendment
to
the
planned
development
district,
the
major
architectural
and
then
the
draft
draft
development
agreement
there.
There
is
a
request
by
the
applicant
to
change
one
of
the
conditions
of
approval
relative
to
the
development
agreement
and
I'm
gonna,
I'm
sure
we'll
come
back
to
it,
but.
G
D
A
The
mitigation
measures
provide
for
biological
resources
generally
implement
the
migratory
bird
treaty
act
requirement
to
conduct
pre-construction
bird
surveys.
If
the
project
is
in
construction.
During
the
nesting
bird
season,
which
is
february
1st
31st
for
cultural
resources,
there
are
mitigation
measures
to
contact
a
qualified
archaeologist
to
evaluate
any
findings
that
may
occur
during
ground,
disturbing
activities
and
mitigation
measure.
Cultural
2
implements
the
required
public
resources
code
section
that
eludes
me
at
the
moment
to
contact
the
county
coroner
in
the
event
that
any
potentially
human
remains
are
found.
D
D
D
D
Glenn,
can
you
speak?
I
think
I'll.
Have
you
speak
to
that?
The
other?
I
have
a
couple
questions
on
the
nesting
birds.
The
airports
require.
The
airport
requires
that
birds
be
discouraged
from
congregating
on
the
property
as
a
condition
of
approval,
there's
a
contradiction
between
the
nesting
birds
and
the
airport
requirements
so
that
birds
don't
become
involved
with
the
motors
of
the
air.
Get
sucked
into
the
airplanes
is
the
condition
domestic
birds
necessary
if
it
conflicts.
G
Well,
it's
a
condition.
I
mean
the
m
d
had
determined
that
if,
if
there
are
nesting
birds,
it
doesn't
mean
that
there
will
always
be
nesting
birds,
but
if
there
are
that
develop
or
construction
happen
in
a
certain
period
of
time,
the
the
a-lock
was
concerned
that,
if
it
rains
and
in
the
detention
basin
water
collects
for
more
than
24-48
hours,
that
birds
would
feel
comfortable
landing
there
and
then,
when
a
plane
takes
off
that
they
would
leave.
G
A
D
If
we
were
looking
at
this
and
it's
something
we
have
to
certify,
I
would
like
a
couple
of
changes
made
if
we're
going
to
certify
it.
One
is
that
the
housing
authority
of
the
county
of
riverside
be
identified
also
that
in
22.16
the
current
traffic
mitigation
that
is
going
to
be
required,
be
identified
in
anything
that
we
certify.
D
G
D
G
G
This
is
the
side
that
faces
the
parking
lot.
So
it's
three
stories
at
that
point-
and
this
is
going
inside
the
complex
and
you'll-
see
the
different
mosaics,
the
different
colors
that
are
proposed,
the
the
balcony
railings
and
the
bridges
that
bridge
the
complex
within
internally
and
then
some
of
the
landscaping-
and
this
is
the
elevation
that
faces
sunrise-
you'll,
see
that
it's
the
two-story
is
what
faces
the
street
and
then
it
steps
back
to
the
third
story
and
also
you'll
notice,
the
walls
that
are
along
sunrise
and
this
the
25-foot
setback
so
chair.
G
Right
so
the
the
the
planning
commission,
the
whole
project,
hinges
upon
the
general
plan,
amendment
change
and
the
expansion
of
the
boundaries
of
the
pd.
So
those
are
the
first
elements
that
the
planning
commission
would
need
to
determine
and
then,
if
the
planning
commission
find
makes
the
findings
for
those
two
elements,
then
you
can
move
on
to
the
major
architectural
as
far
as
what
phases
go.
First,
it's
my
understanding
that
the
the
vista
sunrise,
2
apartment
complex,
is
looking
to
secure
funding
in
2021
with
possible
construction
in
2022
or
2023
and
they'll.
G
Go
into
the
reasons
why
they're
asking
for
a
development
agreement
to
extend
the
usual
two-year
entitlements,
so
they
can
get
their
funding
and
then
also
the
representative
from
desert
aids
project
david
brickman.
He
can
describe
to
you
the
the
phasing
or
the
anticipated
construction
and
completion
of
the
pavilion.
D
G
G
So
what
would
be?
What
would
be
built
and
staff
has
asked
them
and
they'll
address
that
in
just
a
minute
if
they
build
the
vista
sunrise,
two
apartments
that
will
include
the
expansion
of
the
parking
lot
and
the
water
retention
base
in
a
dog
park,
because
that
is
a
requirement
for
them
to
retain
their
on-site
water
retention,
and
that
would
also
include
the
driveway
realignments
along
vistacino
so
that
they
would
do
a
lot
of
the
development
based
upon
the
anticipation
that
the
pavilion
would
be
built.
C
C
C
G
C
C
C
I
C
I
I
C
C
I
D
J
F
I
F
Yeah,
I
didn't
think
so,
since
I
got
involved
yeah
it's
a
little
a
little
complicated
for
some
chinese
western,
mr
chino.
I
guess
they're
going
to
have
to
figure
it
out
by
yeah,
making
you
turn
further
east
on
vistacino
or
head
south
on
sunrise.
Until
you
find
a
street
where
you
can
make
a
right
turn.
Okay,
thanks.
C
Commissioner
lewin
well,
madam
chair,
I
just
would
like
a
little
guidance
from
you
or
the
staff,
and
you
know
I
I
disagree
with
building
this
housing
unit
directly
across
the
street,
from
a
grocery
store
and
having
no
viable
means
for
pedestrian
crossing
and
I've
seen
it
in
many
other
areas
of
the
city
and
it
ends
up
with
pedestrian
deaths,
and
we
spend
so
much
time
analyzing
traffic
and
vehicular
pattern,
and
sometimes
we
ignore
basic
human
behavior.
So
when
you
ask,
are
we
okay
with
this?
At
what
point
do
I
say?
C
Even
if
we
don't
encourage
it.
Even
if
we
don't
put
us
a
crosswalk,
they
will
do
it
because
it's
way
too
far
to
walk
up
to
vistacino
cross
there
and
come
back.
If
you
look
at
the
redesigned
ralphs
the
old,
what
used
to
be
alpha
beta
at
sunrise
and
sunrise
and
chocolates,
is
it
we
have
the
large
residential
community
across
the
street
and
significant
problems
with
people
crossing
with
no
safety?
D
E
Well,
I
I
just
like
to
amplify
commissioner
lewin's
concern.
I
I
share
it,
but
I
don't
think
it's
an
either
or
either
you
get
the
turn
left
turn
lane
or
you
get
pedestrian
safety.
It
I
mean,
we've
got
smart
people
figuring
this
out.
I
think
I
don't
want
to
say
it's
either
or
I
would
like
rather
have
both.
I
mean.
How
do
you
get
into
the
project
if
you're
coming
down
sunrise
from
the
south
you're
heading
north
on
sun
sunrise,
you
have
to
turn
left
on
vistacino.
E
You
can't
make
a
left
into
the
project
on
vista
chino.
How
do
you
even
you,
can't
make
a
u-turn?
How
do
you
even
get
in
the
project
so
getting
in
the
project
from
a
vehicular
standpoint
is
important,
but
so
is
people
crossing
to
to
get
to
the
shopping
center?
I
think
both
are
important
and
I
think
we
kick
it
back.
E
I
I
wouldn't
be
happy
approving
this
without
both
of
those
in
place,
and
maybe
it's
a
a
button-operated
crosswalk
with
you
know,
flashing
lights
or
something
along
those
lines,
but
to
say
that
we
can't
have
pedestrian
safety
and
vehicular
access.
I
think
it's
a
low
bar.
I
think
we've
got
to
raise
the
bar
on
this.
D
D
J
D
E
Today
we
care
for
8
000
patients,
50
of
which
who
do
not
have
hiv.
We
are
their
doctors,
dentists,
psychologists
and
social
service
and
housing
providers,
as
we've
opened
our
doors
and
our
hearts.
Wider
patient
demand
has
outpaced
our
facilities
and
in
the
last
several
years
we've
bought
the
buildings
and
the
land
adjacent
to
our
property.
E
E
Our
response
to
covid
increased
our
patient
population
by
an
additional
4
thousand
people
in
the
past
eight
months.
Our
need
to
expand
and
care
for
this
community
has
become
even
more
urgent.
One
of
our
proven
approaches
to
achieving
successful
outcomes
to
people
in
great
need
is
to
provide
all
of
our
services
on
the
same
campus.
E
For
14
years
we've
successfully
housed
80
residents
on
our
campus
and
through
our
partnership
with
coachella
valley
housing
coalition.
We
will
house
many
more
to
share
more
about
this
critical
component
of
our
humanitarian
model
on
the
call
tonight
is
marianne
ibarra
who's,
the
director
of
multi-family
housing
at
coachella,
valley's
housing
coalition.
E
G
A
A
A
Okay,
good
evening,
madam
chair
and
commissioners,
my
name
is
mary
nibara.
I
am
the
director
of
multifamily
with
coachella
valley,
housing
coalition,
the
coachella
valley,
housing
coalition
is
a
non-profit,
affordable,
housing
developer
that
is
based
in
india.
Cvhc
was
was
founded
in
1982
and,
since
its
inception
has
developed
more
than
4
900
units
of
affordable
housing
throughout
riverside
county
296
of
those
units
were
actually
built
in
palm
springs.
A
Cbhc
provides
housing
for
farm
workers,
families,
seniors
individuals
and
families
with
special
needs,
as
well
as
homeless
veterans
through
our
multi-family
department.
Cvt
has
constructed
40
apartment
developments
for
a
total
of
2
800
minutes
and
is
currently
in
closing
process
to
begin
construction
on
100
unit
apartment
development
in
india,
through
our
single
family
department,
we've
created
over
2
000
home
ownership
opportunities
through
its
mutual
self-help
program
and
currently
has
61
61
self-help
homes
in
construction
in
desert,
hot
springs
and
in
imperial
county.
A
In
addition
to
developing
housing,
cvhc
also
provides
an
array
of
services
at
its
affordable
housing
development.
Some
of
these
services
include
child
care,
child
care
after
school
programs,
computer
training,
esl
classes,
and
we
also
provide
college
scholarships
to
students
who
live
in
our
apartment.
Developments
through
our
jfm
scholarship
fund
in
partnership
with
the
desert
base
project
cbhc,
will
develop
and
construct
the
61
61
units
of
permanent
supportive
housing,
the
housing
I
post.
The
units
will
be
held
by
individuals
with
chronic
illnesses
and
homeless
individuals.
A
The
rents
for
these
units
will
be
set
at
30
to
60
percent
of
area.
Median
income,
meaning
rents
for
studio
units,
would
range
from
three
hundred
ninety
six
dollars
to
six
hundred
and
sixty
dollars
a
month
and
the
one
bedroom
units
would
range
from
four
hundred
and
twenty
four
dollars
to
seven
hundred
and
six
dollars
per
month.
Individuals
will
need
to
earn
from
fifteen
thousand
eight
hundred
and
forty
dollars
to
twenty
six
thousand
four
hundred
dollars
annually
for
studio
apartments
and
eighteen
thousand.
A
Ninety
dollars
to
thirty
thousand
a
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
for
a
one-bedroom
apartment
cbc
received
an
award
of
29
section,
8
vouchers
for
the
county
of
riverside
to
assist
homeless
individuals,
the
1600
square
foot
community
building.
That
would
be
built
as
part
of
the
development
will
provide
ample
space
to
provide
resident
services
to
these
to
to
the
residents.
Some
of
the
services
that
are
planned
for
this
development
are
include
computer
training,
culinary
classes,
dietary
classes
and
health,
information
and
awareness
programs.
All
of
these
services
will
be
provided
free
of
charge
to
the
residents.
A
A
A
This
site
for
this
development
is
in
a
great
location
that
it,
because
it
is
close
to
a
lot
of
amenities
that
these
cert,
that
these
tenants
will
be
able
to
utilize,
such
as
the
bus,
stop
grocery
store
medical
clinic
pharmacy
banks,
restaurants
and
convenience
shopping.
All
of
these
amenities
are
within
walking
distance
of
the
site
and,
I
believe,
they're
all
within
a
quarter
mile
of
the
site.
That
concludes
my
portion
of
the
presentation
and
will
now
hand
this
over
to
our
architect
will
young.
Thank
you
very
much.
K
Whoa,
okay,
that
doesn't
count
in
my
three
minutes
and
I
I
will
answer
every
one
of
those
questions
that
came
up
beforehand.
Thank
you.
Marianne.
My
name
is
rule
young.
I'm
with
interactive
design
corporation,
we're
the
architects
and
I'll,
give
a
brief
overview
of
the
design
team's
approach
to
this
project.
K
I'm
going
to
be
talking
about
the
built
environment
and
how
it
responds
to
three
big
picture
issues.
One
is
the.
If
I
can
make
this.
Oh
I'm
sorry,
oh
there
we
go,
one
is
the
public
realm,
the
streetscape?
The
second
is
once
I'm
on
the
campus.
Is
there
clarity
and
comfort
and
the
third
how
to
create
community
and
security
for
the
residents?
Those
are
the
three
big
issues
and
I'll
try
to
explain
how
we
address
them.
K
So,
let's
talk
about
sunrise
facade,
as
you
saw
in
the
drive-thru.
The
buildings
that
are
there
are
very
distinctly
different
and
we
wanted
to
introduce
a
way
of
unifying
the
distinct
differences.
So
we
introduced
two
major
architectural
issues
that
are
add-ons
as
opposed
to
takeaways.
We
did
not
want
to
do
a
great
deal
of
deconstruction,
so
we
introduced
oops
wrong
one.
K
We
introduced
horizontal
louvers
that,
in
some
cases,
are
visual,
cues
and,
in
some
cases,
are
shade
and
protection
to
for
a
walkway.
Additionally,
we
added
a
series
of
horizontal
blade.
Roofs.
Both
of
these
are
are
an
attempt
to
bring
some
modern,
visual
cues
to
the
architecture
that
spans
40
years
in
terms
of
its
existence.
K
The
next
issue
on
campus,
the
question
is
clarity.
How
do
I
get
there
where's
the
front
door?
How
am
I
greeted
so
initially?
We
said?
Oh
darn,
we
said
we're
going
to
create
a
new
single
front
door
that
links
the
two
buildings,
the
annex
and
the
existing,
but
before
that,
even
before
that,
we
introduced
a
series
of
freestanding
arbors
within
the
parking
lot
to
greet
people
as
they're
coming
across
the
parking
lot
and
repurposed
and
redesigned
the
park
into
an
amenity
for
staff
residents
and
clients.
K
K
Lastly,
we
have
not
in
importance,
but
in
this
presentation
we
have
the
apartment
complex.
Now,
it's
very
obvious
that
the
apartments
are
a
different
building
type
and
whereas
the
dap
building
had
a
front
door
that
was
transparent
and
bold.
In
this
case
the
apartment
buildings,
apartments
open
off
of
shared
courtyards,
so
that
the
sense
of
community
and
inward
lurk
inward
looking
security
was
inward.
Looking
connection
was
part
of
the
program.
K
K
There
now
the
architecture
of
the
building
is
obviously
different
than
the
existing
structures
and
is
based
upon
simple
forms:
simple
off-white
plaster
walls
with
accents
windows
and
color
panels,
and
the
horizontal
blade
roof.
What's
important
here
is
that
the
building
is
set
back
twice
as
far
as
the
adjacent
building.
Here,
it's
at
25
feet
versus
13
feet.
It's
also
two-story,
at
sunrise
with
the
third
story.
Stepping
back
along
this
entry.
K
H
Madam
chair
members
of
the
commission,
my
name
is
nicole
krist,
I'm
with
terra
nova
planning
and
research,
and
I've
been
assisting
with
the
processing
of
this
application
for
dap
and
cvhc.
I
would
like
to
address
some
of
the
the
commissioner's
questions
regarding
the
traffic
and
bird
contradictions
and
phasing.
H
The
both
of
them
were
operated
on
acceptable
levels
and
there
there
is
not
mitigation
required
for
one
option
or
the
other
that
is
covered
in
the
conditions
of
approval.
The
initial
study
determined
that
that
the
levels
of
service
and
the
traffic
flow
would
be
adequate
under
either
alternative.
As
indicated
in
the
traffic
study,
the
the
alux
bird
requirement
is
is,
as
glenn
indicated,
tied
to
they're
congregating.
H
H
The
bird,
the
mbta
bird
analysis,
that's
required
is
a
standard
mitigation.
You
see
in
many
of
your
initial
studies,
and
that
is
so
is
not
to
disturb
birds
who
may
be
nesting
in
trees
that
will
be
removed
by
construction.
So
it
is
a
short-term
analysis
and
does
not
affect
the
long-term
operation
of
the
site.
H
A
few
things
I
would
like
to
clarify
and
then
I'd
be
glad
to
answer
further
questions
about
traffic.
As
you
have
your
discussion,
we
do
not
expect
semi
deliveries.
The
deliveries
that
that
dap
currently
gets
are
panel
trucks.
Ups,
the
fine
food
truck
that
that
helps
to
supply
the
depot.
We
do
not
expect
semi
trucks,
we
do
need
a
left
turn
in.
H
If
staff
is
inclined
to
go
to
to
allow
us
to
do
that,
that
was
part
of
the
consideration
for
the
traffic
signal
option
was
to
provide
pedestrian
crossing.
We
do
understand
the
city's
concern
about
putting
a
signal
so
close
to
vistacino
and
sunrise
and
frankly,
because
both
entities
are
non-profit
organizations.
The
cost
of
a
signal
was
of
concern
to
both
entities,
which
is
why
we
headed
for
the
for
the
option
of
the
right
in
right
out
left
in.
D
F
F
H
Commissioner,
marouzi
the.
If,
if
that's
what
I
said,
that
is
not
what
I
intended
to
say
what
I
I
was
using
the
existing
driveway
as
as
a
comparison
or
equivalent.
We
are,
we
have
a
current,
the
the
driveway
that
is
going
to
be
the
service.
Driveway
is
currently
the
main
entry
for
the
for
the
complex
between
the
annex
and
the
existing
dap
building.
H
C
Commissioner
lowen,
madam
chair,
it's
a
less
a
question,
more
a
statement
of
appreciation
that
the
applicant
dap
and
the
housing
group
are
willing
to
consider
pedestrian
safety
for
the
new
housing
development
and
I'll
I'll
talk
with
the
commissioners
later.
But
I
thank
them
for
signaling
their
willingness
to
to
accommodate
that.
H
Yes,
sir,
we
held
cvhc
held
multiple
community
meetings
with
the
neighborhood
during
the
design
process
and
the
latest
one
was
this
summer
and
we
they
did
mention
the
color
issue
to
us
during
the
discussion
in
that
meeting,
and
we
have.
We
have
addressed
it
and
we'll
continue
to
address
it
through
the
final
pd
process.
G
And
commissioner
irvine,
if
I
could,
if
I
could
state
that
the
public
hearing
required
notice
set
to
500
within
500
foot
of
all
residences
and
there
were
over
600
letters
that
were
mailed
to
current
residents
or
property
owners.
Also,
there
were
letters
that
we
received
in
the
past
day
that
were
emailed
to
the
the
commission.
A
H
H
In
order
for
them
to
develop,
they
require
they're
required
to
drain
to
the
retention
basin,
so
the
retention
basin
and
dog
park
would
be
part
of
that
phase,
as
would
the
new
driveway,
which
is
an
existing
access
point
that
would
be
widened
and
improved
on
their
side,
and
the
dock
would
be
added
with
the
ap.
So
there
would
be
a
two-way
driveway
in
the
residence
turn
left
into
the
apartments.
H
D
H
H
I
would
argue
that
the
development
agreement,
because
the
entitlements
are
for
the
entire
site,
that
if
the
council
accepts,
approves
the
development
agreement
for
cvhc,
because
that
vests,
the
major
architectural
review,
the
pd
and
the
general
plan
amendment
for
a
period
of
10
years
for
for
cvhc,
it
would
do
the
same
for
dap.
But
that
would
be
a
a
question
that
I
intend
to
ask
the
city
attorney
between
now
and
the
city
council
meeting,
because
we
have
been
rushed
in
preparing
the
finalizing
the
development
agreement.
D
I
D
D
H
Madam
chair
dap
is
considering
how
to
proceed
with
the
development
agreement
that
there
are
considerations
in
the
funding
because
of
prevailing
wage
requirements
and
so
they're
looking
at
the
financials
right
now.
But
we
would
expect
that
that
dap
will
follow
with
it
with
some
kind
of
agreement
with
the
city.
That
the
reason
for
the
for
the
bifurcation
is
that
cvhc,
because
of
the
funding
cycles,
needs
to
get
this
process
done
by
the
end
of
the
years,
with
applications
due
at
the
beginning
of
2021
and
and
so
that's
why
we
bifurcated
the
two.
D
D
D
A
Well,
that's
where
we
would
have
to
do
our
marketing
and
we
do
have
a
third
party
marketing
management
company
who
will
work
with
us
to
do
the
marketing
to
market
those
units
at
those
levels
they
will.
They
will
then
check
all
incomes
and
stuff
and
folks
would
have
to
make
the
specific
income
in
order
to
apply,
but
to
one
size,
budget.
D
K
K
There
were
three
variables
that
were
discussed
and
truthfully.
I
cannot
adequately
answer
whether
this
was
the
optimal
ratio,
but
I
know
that
it
had
to
do
with
drainage
of
the
draining
of
the
retention,
water,
detention,
as
well
as
hygiene
in
terms
of
d
g
versus
the
grass.
That's
what
I
recall
and
and
jeremy,
who
is
the
landscape
architect.
I
could
punt
to
him
so
that
you
might
get
a
better
answer.
D
The
other
one
was
there
were
some
comments
from
aac
that,
and
I
think
the
entrance
changes
you've
made
on
sunrise
are
exquisite.
There
were
comments
from
aac.
I
believe
that
the
entrance
to
the
the
pavilion
was
a
bit
underwhelming
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
had
paid,
if
you
thought
about
those
comments
and
what
your
thought
on
that
is.
K
We
have
thought
about
it
and,
in
fact
the
there
were
two
issues
that
came
up
around
entrances.
One
was
on
sunrise
itself
in
the
annex.
The
existing
annex
building
has
a
bold
copper
roof,
that's
angled
and
sloping
to
the
south
and
on
the
west
side
we're
pulling
that
back
at
the
aac
they
there
was
a
comment
that
said:
why?
Don't
you
take
it
off
on
the
front
as
well.
K
Secondly,
if
we
did
that,
we
would
be
responsible
for
engineering
the
solution
on
the
rest
of
the
building,
because
we'd
be
disturbing
the
integrity
of
this
high
building
roof
and
the
rest.
We
did
not
want
to
touch
that,
so
we
introduced
the
lower
horizontal
blade
to
bring
shade
and
a
sense
of
pedestrian
scale
and
take
away
the
the
vastness
that
are
what
what
we
felt
was
out
of
proportion
facing
sunrise.
K
K
So
I
also
want
to
raise
one
other
issue
that
came
up
and
that
was
that
the
freestanding
arbors
are
designed
differently
than
the
entry
architecture
and
louvers
that
was
deliberate.
We
wanted
it
to
be
a
little
more
playful,
so
it's
not
a
horizontal
roof.
It's
an
angled
roof.
We
did
some
little
cool.
What
we
thought
were
cool
things.
They
didn't
think
it
was
cool
they,
the
the
implication
was
it
should
be
the
same
as
the
building.
We
don't
agree
with
that.
We
think
they
are
freestanding.
They
are
in
the
vocabulary,
but
not
identical.
D
K
K
Now
we
don't
want
to
offend,
but
we
want
to
bring
contemporary
quality
of
a,
I
think,
there's
a
ter
of
a
color
that
is
dove
dove
white
or
something
of
that
nature.
It's
it's
a
neutral
off-white
and
we
want
that
to
be
the
the
unifying
component
between
the
apartments
and
the
the
buildings.
Let's
see,
aac
reconsider
parking
lot,
shade
selection,
that'll
be
jeremy
lighting
plan
was
to
be
resubmitted.
They
were
concerned
about
exposure
on
the
southwest
corner
to
the
single-family
residences,
and
those
fixtures
are
already
there.
We
aren't
changing
them.
K
The
canopy
structures
to
be
re-studied
for
consistency
with
detailing
detailing
yes,
but
form.
No.
We
want
to
have
that
lightness
that
isn't
so
orthogonal.
I
guess
color
samples,
yep
we'll
do
that
applicant,
investigate
gating
the
service
driveway.
That
is
not
practical,
because
there's
no
turnaround,
it
will
only
be
used.
We
we
will
use
a
landscape
and
other
visual
cues.
That
say
don't
turn
in
here,
but
it
is
for
service
of
the
emergency
generator
service
of
trash
and
postal
delivery.
K
A
C
C
A
A
To
be
clear,
also
when
you
look
at
that
detention
base,
I
don't
know
if
we
can
bring
it
up.
Only
half
of
it
is
available
for
the
dog
park.
The
other
half
is
not
going
to
be
accessible
by
people
and
animals,
so
you
really
got
if
you
look
at
that.
Whole
basin
is
really
half
of
that
base
in
size
and
it's
just
not
a
very
big
area.
D
I
might
not
agree
with
all
of
it,
but
you
know
I
agree
that
a
dog
park,
the
size
of
the
city's
dog
park
with
the
number
of
dogs
they
have
turf
is
hard.
I
I
would
assume
you'd
have
a
much
smaller
population
there
and
it
part
partially.
It
depends
on
a
survey
of
what
you
have,
but
thank
you
for
your
answers.
Does
any
I've
taken
a
lot
of
questions?
Does
anybody
else
have
questions
of
the
applicant.
F
G
Right
so
the
the
there
are
findings
that
the
planning
commission
needs
to
make
in
order
to
recommend
approval
to
the
city
council
that
the
general
plan
amendment
be
voted
on.
So
one
is
that,
is
it
compatible
with
the
mixed
use?
Multi-Use,
yes,
it'll,
be
both
residential
and
commercial
medical
office.
G
Are
there
potential
adverse
impacts
to
future
development
in
the
vicinity
there
won't
be
there
are?
This
will
be
like
the
final
piece
of
the
corner.
There's
not
much
development
that
could
happen.
Are
there
any
potential
adverse
impacts
to
future
development
in
the
area,
and
we
believe
that
the
planning
commission
can
make
that
finding
that
there
will
not
be
adverse
impacts
to
any
future
development
within
that
area.
D
D
G
The
next
one
is
the
amendment
to
the
planned
development
district.
So
what
this
will
do
is
expand
the
pd
boundaries
to
include
the
entire
13.2
acre
campus
and
then
just
develop
then
establish
development
parameters
that
include
the
setback
on
the
residential
building
at
25
feet
and
then
the
building
height
at
30
feet.
G
G
G
F
F
F
D
D
G
D
E
I
I
I'd
like
to
make
a
comment
on
the
landscape
architecture,
which
is
I'd
like
to
see
shade
trees
along
sunrise.
The
the
landscaping
on
sunrise
seems
a
little
thin
to
me
and
I'd
like
to
you
know.
We
talked
about
that
with
the
previous
applicant
on
the
on
the
assisted
living,
and
I
I'd
like
to
see
it
mirrored
here
on
sunrise
that
we
get
shade
trees
along
that.
G
E
D
E
C
May
I
speak
madam
chair,
yes,
please
I
I
think
you
nailed
it,
mr
hirschbein,
that
we
know
what
we
want,
but
the
experts
should
figure
it
out.
I
would
word
it
this
way
that
we
would
approve
the
major
architectural
application
with
the
requirement
for
enhanced
pedestrian
safety
for
passage
from
vista
sunrise,
2
to
the
stater
brothers
shopping
center,
with
attention
to
the
median
to
meet
to
the
median
and
nighttime
visibility.
C
Do
you
see
what
I'm
doing
there
is
saying,
with
special
attention
to
the
median
and
nighttime
visibility,
leaving
it
up
to
the
experts
to
determine
whether
that
means
an
illuminated
area
or
a
flashing
area
or
whatever,
there's
a
lot
of
rules
that
go
into
how
you
do
that?
But
it
is
incumbent
upon
us
to
call
out
that
we
think
there
needs
to
be
podesta
pedestrian
safety.
C
C
J
So
you're
aware,
the
engineering
office
has
considered
that
specific
option
regarding
a
protected
or
oceans
that
protected
a
like
a
flashing
light
pedestrian
movement
crosswalk
along
sunrise
way,
but
it
has
been
rejected
because
of
the
safety
concerns
relative
to
the
volume
of
traffic.
The
speed
at
which
traffic
travels
on
this
road
and
and
the
result
then
basically,
is
that
the
alternative
would
be
that
a
traffic
light
be
installed.
C
I've
definitely
encountered
this
a
number
of
times.
There's
there's
often
it
seems
that
there's
no
solution.
I
think
it's
our
job
to
say
that
there
needs
to
be
one
and
it's
not
always
a
flashing
light.
It's
not
always
a
stop
light,
sometimes
it's
as
simple
as
making
a
cut
in
the
median,
so
that
people
can
traverse
and
having
a
proper
street
light
in
there
that's
illuminating
and
that
can
cut
down
a
lot
of
deaths
without
putting
an
artificial
block
to
traffic.
J
D
D
D
D
D
D
G
D
I
would
recommend
both
of
those
I
would
recommend
to
the
city
council
that
they
give
serious
consideration
if
they
need
to
do
separate
development
agreements,
but
I
would
give
serious
consideration
to
a
development
agreement
for
both
the
housing
portion
and
the
annex
portion.
I
I
we
don't.
I
don't
think
we
want
to
have
this
project
fall
on.
C
E
Will
there
seem
to
be
some
concern
that
the
development
agreement-
I
I
I'm
trying
to
impute
this-
the
development
agreement
might
take
longer
to
finalize
with
the
city
than
the
housing
people
want,
because
they
need
something
to
get
their
financing
in
place.
I'm
I'm
inclined
to
let
those
parties
figure
out
what
they
want,
rather
than
imposing
our
will
on
it,
because
there's
some
process
issues
that
I'm
not
in
the
weeds
on
that.
It
sounds
like
they
study
quite
closely
and
they're
responding
to
those
concerns.
D
E
C
A
F
D
F
D
B
C
A
A
C
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
making
the
suggestion
that
the
vote
be
called
first
with
the
motion
maker
and
the
seconder,
and
then
because
it
has
been
a
little
bit
of
a
burden
on
alphabetically
advantaged
people.
You
know,
and
I
think
it
was
just
a
very
elegant
solution
that
you
came
up
with
so
thank
you
for
suggesting
that.
J
J
J
We
do
have
a
meeting
with
the
chamber
of
commerce
tomorrow
morning
to
present
the
vision
and
priorities,
as
recommended
by
the
planning
commission,
and
then
that
feedback
will
put
together
as
well
as
a
couple
of
other
meetings.
We
have
scheduled
with
one
being
the
downtown
main
street
organization,
as
well
as
the
general
managers
meeting
with
the
various
hoteliers
and
tourism
organizations.
J
D
The
only
other
one
is
that
the
two
city
councilors
who
are
working
on
it
mayor,
coors
and
consular
woods,
were
very
interested
in
a
piece
that
commissioner
lewin
wrote
regarding
additional
state
trees
in
the
city
and
a
priority
for
that.
So
I
believe
that's
going
to
be
included
in
the
work.
That's
done.
D
D
C
Sorry
about
that,
I
failed
to
mute
again.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
I
want
to
thank
you
you
for
all
the
work
you've
done
and
staff.
I
was
wondering,
and
it's
probably
far
down
the
road,
but
at
what
point,
if
ever,
will
we
be
looking
at
our
zoning
maps
to
conform
to
the
vision?
That
is
the
general
plan?
J
So
that
would
happen
once
we
get
through
the
general
plan
update
process.
We
do
have
some
funds
available
to
do
some
of
that
work
budgeted
as
a
part
of
the
general
plan
update.
So
we
are
evaluating
some
of
that
right
now
and
then,
ultimately,
the
work
plan
or
work
program
after
we
get
through
the
general
plan
update
is
really
to
ensure
that
we
have
consistency
with
our
zoning
to
our
general
plan.
D
J
Certainly
so,
as
I
think
a
few
of
you
may
have
saw
at
the
meeting
on
november
12th
last
week,
the
council
reviewed
the
tower
market
application
on
san
rafael
and
indian.
They
had
a
number
of
recommendations
for
the
afghan
to
consider,
and
so
the
staff
is
working
with
the
applicant
to
address
those
items
and,
and
that
item
will
return
to
the
council
on
december
10th.
F
D
D
F
J
H
J
E
J
To
not
make
our
december
9th
meeting
last
until
midnight
if
the
commission
is
open
to
it,
the
dates
that
I've
looked
at
on
the
calendar
that
might
work
for
staff,
and
I
wanted
to
get
some
of
your
feedback
on
these-
would
be
either
december
8th
or
december
17th
december.
8Th
is
the
day
before
your
regular
business
meeting
on
it,
which
would
be
on
the
tuesday
or
the
17th,
is
on
the
thursday
of
the
following
week.
D
A
J
C
J
F
A
What's
your
song
just
just
a
comment,
I
noticed
on
the
previous
city
council
and
also
in
our
planning
commission
that
we
have
the
option
of
the
candidates
coming
to
chamber
and
I
think
that's
a
really
good
idea
having
the
staff
member
as
well
and
also
the,
if
possible,
the
case,
design,
team
or
developers
and
so
on.
Is
that
something
that
you
guys
also
agree,
and
is
that
david
something
that
it's
going
to
be
the
normal
you
know
from
here
until
it
gets
better.
J
Yeah,
so
that
we
are
doing
that
for
some
for
public
hearing
items
and
so
that's
kind
of
been
helpful
because
I
know
a
lot
of
times.
The
audio
is
not
great
when
we're
doing
it
over
the
phone.
So,
ideally
we
have
them
either
on
the
zoom,
which
I
think
has
been
working
out
a
lot
better
than
calling
applicants
when
we
have
projects
and
we
have
public
hearings
and
we're
trying
to
listen
to
them
and
they're
trying
to
listen
to
you
and
it
becomes
problematic.
J
So
I
think
it's
been
working
out
better
with
the
zoom,
the
online
version,
where
our
applicants
are
able
to
join
us
online,
and
so
I
think
that's
that's
better,
but
yeah.
If
we
can
have
you
know
if
the
design
team
or
if
the
applicant
prefers
to
be
in
the
chamber
and
we
are
able
to
do
appropriate
spacing,
we
will
continue
to
do
that
in
our
current
state.