City of Portsmouth, New Hampshire Cable and Broadband Internet Commission, 7 Sep 2022

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9.7.2022 Cable Television and Communications Committee

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Thank you. Thank you.

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All right so uh I'll give you ordered. uh So I guess we'll start with uh and.

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Two for both the meeting minutes for the last meeting, all right.

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Okay, next uh report back on governors, governance committee, review of the ordinance.

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Apologize, I was not. I was trying to get there and then all of a sudden.

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Do you want to give the summary um yeah we, I basically gave it over by the uh seeking.

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Those changes um based on the questions and the reaction, the perception was favorable.

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In case you would have to speak, no I'd say that they, uh what we heard from the city councilors.

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uh Make up the government's committee is that they were in favor um and what they.

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Were going to do is not take a vote that day, but you know put it on the agenda again for the next.

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Meeting but they certainly seem very supportive of that so they're, just giving a little airplay shall.

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We say but yeah. They certainly seemed um very favorable to this committee, going before the city.

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Council with an ordinance amendment to broaden the authority event, and I believe it was.

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I guess more or less expressed his um appreciation that we would take the initiative to do something.

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Like that, so so, when is the next few seconds that they will sort of bring.

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It up again on the next meeting, just wondering yep, their next governance committee meeting is.

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It was the 21st, but it's not.

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I will send you an email, yes,.

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One other subject that I didn't bring up. My collection is that I.

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Asked, probably, is the inappropriately been even a product anyway, and that is.

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We didn't discuss, maybe survey, to get their feedback.

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Yeah we discuss the idea of some kind of a certain thing yeah. I think if they seem.

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Supportive of that we've definitely know before yeah, we'll definitely pick it up shortly again,.

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So, um and as far as the next governance committee meeting at that point, what's the next step is they.

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Would vote on if they're positive, for it does it happen, or does it need to go to the city council.

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Then it would go to the city council, okay, um so the next governance committee meeting is 10 a.m.

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On september 21st, should we be there? I think it might be nice if there's a representative of that.

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Cable commission, if possible, if not I'll, be I could do that as well, because I literally.

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Right and I feel like I should probably since I'm the chair, wouldn't be: oh absolutely yeah.

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Yeah you have to drive, I mean I work actually um across the street from john paul jones. Oh.

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Okay, so it's a corner of state, so I'm also really close and that's why I had no excuse.

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Me well not no excuses to be honestly, it was 10 am, but um I will put it on the calendar so.

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I can't promise yes.

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And I'll let the chair of the government's committing now or that attendance.

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Is there any questions.

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Great anything else with that 194.

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That's communications regarding selling coverage yep, so um uh jason uh did a great job. It was.

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Just draft communication- and I think really from my perspective, the only thing that we.

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Need to do is maybe look at some dates and times where, if we want to, you know, say hey.

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We'd like to invite you to a meeting, could you let us know whether anything states and.

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Times work, so I think really that's the only piece it's missing and then I'll just uh kind.

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Of tidy up the address for portland city hall board, which opens at okay, say one of them, some.

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Of them may be familiar with meetings at public works. So that's why I'll make sure.

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um Yeah the thing that's occurred to me since, though, is should we take up the issue.

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Of soliciting a survey, so we give them more data about this little post to just kind of antidote.

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Or what you guys think about that come from the population exactly in other words, would it.

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Be more powerful and compelling if we came to them, so our survey results indicate that this.

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Many respondents that was tough, yes, you know well because I have to say it to be honest, I guess with.

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Our experience with comcast a lot of times the bigger biggest lake. They see this as a potential.

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Try as opposed to yeah, it's got true discussion and you can say.

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I am naturally ktmp excited, I'm a bit of a pessimistic people down and I guess my thought.

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Initially is that I'm inclined to be able to maybe not show up just because right now, everything's.

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Working really well, why should we you know, but if we have some numbers, do you think that makes our.

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Even stronger, yes, I agree. That's what I'm saying those things that are argument stronger. If we.

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Have some information, so I did uh do an inquiry to find out what it would cost to do like a postcard.

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Mailing um because the city did do that previously for another project recently and the number I was.

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Given that is that it's about 2400 bucks to do the mailing, but we've done it with the qr code.

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um And so really that's um this is the avenue you'd like to go and then I'll be down to work.

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With the city manager and see if I can find out 2400 bucks to cover the postage for that.

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Unless we can collectively hear brainstorm or something other than mailing that we think gets us.

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The same response and we'll say we have had good results with those qr codes. um What we did.

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When we did the fleet street project or we started to get input on designing, you know redesigning.

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Fleet street we actually put the signage with the qr codes right on fleet street, so that users.

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You know it wasn't just residents, anyone was using fleet stream would get that notice. You.

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Know they'd be able to walk by it and they can say. Oh, I could do a survey so even though they.

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Weren't residents, they could still report their experience and what they think could speak so.

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A mail line we could do, you know we'll get it to residents. The question is: if you want a broader.

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Pool you think would be helpful. We could kind of brainstorm here collectively together knowing.

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That the qr code does seem to be an effective way for people to weigh in whether we look at.

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Other avenues to get information by pushing it out through other medium or going to local businesses.

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And asking them to you, know, post. I know where I go to get my haircut off of lafayette road.

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In san levita and no cell phones, you know virtually no sequences. I can get my tax, but.

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You know so I was I was thinking about this. Do we actually try and get a broader pool.

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By working with some of the local businesses in various areas, the businesses might actually be.

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Attracted to them as well, because, obviously I mean I don't know if it's physically discouraged people.

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From going to them, but so we can't refer so I'm throwing it out there. I think there are no options.

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So that's why I figured it was a different point for today I'm going to bring you more information.

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I have we do have our city e-newsletter. That goes out, um so I'm not saying notable postcard.

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But that's going to hit a very you know. It will fit just your residence and not necessarily.

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Everyone else what is food, so I was really not even thinking postcard per se. I was thinking you.

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Know the city had access to an email distribution list to say, there's a new newsletter, so obviously.

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There exists an email distribution, let's see some few signups, so the postcard would be gone right.

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Now we do have a facebook page, we have. um You know. We have other media that we can use to push things.

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Out like parking, you know we have our twitter account or parking so yeah we have next. You.

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Know a lot of people have next year um we could post it at the senior center. You know, city hall,.

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um Our public information officer, you know, could help us design the target plan.

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um To get this out, she works to get the qr code. She can mock something up.

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For the cable commission to look at and say, hey does this type of communication capture.

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What you're looking for and help develop the survey, because that's what she's done.

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um For the other projects, so if that works for you I'll, take some notes, I'll work with her and then.

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We'll meet again we'll look up a you know, look at a survey, you know where the qr code would take. You.

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Limiting to many people thinking, you know all the people to have made many ways: grandparents so like.

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I said several averages that people could just speak about the link I'll even watch, certainly not.

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Going to put flyers and stuff or whatever, in other words the qr code is pretty portable, so we could.

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You know couldn't potentially talk with a person, um helped design and vote with some sort of flyer.

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Or something like I don't know where exactly we've got the library too. We have a lot of library, users.

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um And the library is pretty good about helping us yeah and put in various modalities the same.

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Thing with the senior center the great staff over there, so they recognize that.

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Not everyone's as comfortable with technology, and so they may be willing to help. You know.

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The paper circuits for people who want to you know fill it out that way. I would like.

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To have closed notes like a paper as well as electronic, pending science, okay, I know that.

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You know there's a lot for me. I know that my parents, when they were using cell phones, were.

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Much more inclined to use the voice, rather than they weren't as comfortable with the texting and.

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Obviously, with uh you know, less coverage, the voice suffers much faster when you text us.

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And basically, you know on the paper um an address for the people to come back.

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Manually entering the system yeah, I mean the logistics behind it. Yeah.

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Yeah I'll just make up some time to calling, if you will all the response.

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um So I might be able to get us some some help.

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um In that process, so I assume I mean if we did the paper version, because I assume the.

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City has like a business reply at like account with the postal service or whatever so people.

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Can surveys back in or would that even I guess that would be part of your budget right yeah.

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We'd have to figure out how we, how we do that, because normally people are posting something to.

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Us a business reply account with the posters um you know, maybe maybe from maybe we've done, that.

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With works projects I have to check, I don't have the answers to that, but the idea would be like a.

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Trifold with a pre-printed business reply on the back, all they have to do is fill out. The survey.

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Fold it tape, it might be it I'll. Take that note back to stephanie who, like I said, she's done a.

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Lot of our, at least for the paper mode, yeah we'd have like sliders with the qr for the other stuff.

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And, like I said, I think both the senior federal recreation folks and the library folks may be.

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Willing to just collect it if people want to fill them out right, yeah and then just.

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Send them over to me internally to collector, so the target of this is not only a resident.

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But also workers, that was my thought. If you, if you get, has anyone can be on the postcard, you can get.

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More information, absolutely gas stations near the highway, I think, would be a great place so.

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They could hear a lot from people coming through how'd. You find the service like traveling through.

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Here, because this this spot affects everyone passing through, not being australia, that's right.

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Let's say you know, the one killer is too late: the the guitar and the tourist season, but it's still.

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Not a bad idea. Well, let me work with stephanie and see who's our public information officer and.

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See if she can help us develop a plan like here's, and so we might approach it with the.

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Combination of entry points haven't lock up a draft survey. If you want to give me some.

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Thoughts I'll pass them on and then we'll bring a package back to you guys for further importance.

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But just looking at the franchise agreements going to be coming up, soonish.

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So uh overload ourselves unnecessarily, but at the same time I'm also not comfortable tabling this.

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For a year, but that's not good, I would like to think that if you could give me a couple.

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Of weeks to work with stephanie, that will be able to come back with proposed survey and.

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So so question, though, about this, if we can move on to talk about.

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The scope of the survey, we need to add it and move on the agenda. Yeah.

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I'm a firm believer in private school so, like I feel like this is a framework.

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um It's a framework for us to discuss things so in terms of the scope. One of the thoughts I had is maybe this opportunity and expense would.

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Be a time to ask about feedback on the cable system, but I don't want to confuse.

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People before too many questions either so, but it would be an opportunity to gather our.

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Own independent feedback about comcast and that's specifically, I think, what.

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But also you know, people might say: oh, I have a podcast but hey my cable. They might link it at.

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Some level, if you have x20 mobile but there's no, uh but you know we just have to target. Maybe it's.

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Two different targets: yeah the questions and the soviet, specifically okay, and without being.

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Yeah, as opposed to, I do think that the cellular piece, although we don't have a.

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Regulatory leverage that they getting that data gives us a bigger voice.

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um Especially because we don't have any kind of regulatory right.

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um So I'm almost being blind to say stick with your current path, which is let's get.

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Something you know see how this goes. This will be a nice little test for us with that. Getting.

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The cellular information we've got time the agreement- it's not up until this is.

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Yeah, so we've got at least a year.

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We can't make any of the cell providers do anything, but what we're trying to bring is.

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Always yeah and a discussion to say what I'm interested in hearing. Why haven't you addressed.

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It not in a negative way, but in a way that says well, it's because the city won't. Let us do this.

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Or these neighborhood residents resist the tower that kind of correct yeah. So basically we get to.

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Data says based on that was surveyed. This is the result and trying to open a dialogue into what.

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We can do or help you do to address it right. We'll always have your brows approach, things.

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You know it's funny. You say that because then realize one of the questions you should ask on.

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The survey is, would you be opposed to additional cell phone towers in your neighborhood that make.

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Yourself, your data, better, I think that's an important question to ask right because.

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I think sometimes people who insist the towers are necessarily in the majority of respondents.

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That are just the vocal and then you have the other spectrum of people who have so.

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Much vaccine whether they're, like I don't care in the back of my yard right, you know so yeah.

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That's a good question too: okay right february 2024, so we have all over next year. So that's.

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All right, so that's good! um So should we get some give me some.

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Brainstorming ideas that I can share with our public information officers: okay, yeah.

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Believe that we actually have one of the straps perhaps and questions, and then we have something.

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To discuss because I'm not going to volunteer I'm not particularly good at, I tend to put together.

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Surveys that to where I want them to go, so I I'd like a nice quickly, yeah. Let's do this.

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Kick a little bit this because I kind of keep moving, because otherwise we are going to have.

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We do have time, okay, we're moving through things pretty quickly, so.

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um Yeah, so one of the things I struggle with is: how do we gather inputs on where.

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It's going to be hard to solicit that from paper wherever you noticed their problems, we're going to.

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Get all kinds of descriptions by the oak tree by the old general store. You know and that'll.

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Be useless some sort of map in the like a little mini map and number the zones again.

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Postcard's only going to get you so much real estate, but if we could give.

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Them an idea as far as zones, where they're having something again assuming people know.

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All your geography, but maybe can we go it's a big stress card, no see the thing is.

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That's a good idea at my house. Coverage is horrible, but also once you go towards.

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Route, 1, south, you know you pass the mobile gas station. There also has horrible. Yes, so.

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I could you know, report at least three times way out, so I guess we're going to be specific in terms.

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Of asking people which location, I think rob has got uh onto something if you could throw a map out.

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That's that's discernible enough and zone. It write down the number of songs where you've experienced.

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Severe repeated problems with access, I think that'd be useful yeah. It would always be pretend.

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To try like that, maybe just sort of throwing stuff out as long as work, but the problem is that.

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There's a if it's too granular, then people aren't necessarily going to know, give you the right info.

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But if it's too broad we could potentially have a situated, because sometimes I mean I'm shooting my.

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Own, I take it down already, but um uh but there's got to be some way because I also wondering like.

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Because if we have specifics, like I, don't know how easy it's going to be to. Even if we were to.

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Get exact locations like how do we sort of put that into take that data and put into something.

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Valuable, I think the zone map is, will be valuable. I think, but I think that you're right it's going.

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To be a bit of an art to determine how to zone right in a way, that's useful, because.

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Everybody doesn't need to be sort of sitting at that specifically they're, not wronged right.

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So that gets gets into that here's another option again, I'm throwing these out yeah.

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um We know just antidote, anecdotally, they'll, wear some of the you know. Low coverage zones are.

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We do we say you know: we've we've identified the following areas check the box of the examine, have.

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You been in these areas and noticed and they can just check the box and then, if they want to add.

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Any other area please subscribe, you know like at your home, get the dress or at your place of work.

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Give a dress something that makes it easy for them to say: yeah. I've noticed by the hospital.

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Or on lafayette, south in the area of walmart and libido or whatever, some like clear voices and I'm.

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Not sure people process an absolute us engineering types or appreciate them for that matter, right so.

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I see I see two things yeah 80 years ago. It makes you dumb, but then this area of bandwidth problem.

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Literally two things right, so one minute episode, second, is like a few times. Basically, nothing.

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Sometimes you have five bars, but which is right. Look it's two days. Yeah right. You know there are.

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Two things, I'm not sure I know that's what I'm thinking which you can do is structured.

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Surveys such if you basically have two columns of answers next to the same questions right so.

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For example, the mature thing where you describe those things you describe those zones column, one.

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Is no signal column two, I have signal, but the data is slow and say just like. Yes, yes, you have.

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Signal but the data is slow, yeah and then all your questions, you ask folks, you know what I.

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Mean right, even if the geography or anything I really like um suzanne's, uh but I like the idea.

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Of the describe areas in common languages work in a dress right, but I mean this is for having.

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The help of your survey person would be able to maybe describe these areas. People would understand.

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How many responses have we got into that too, because the we have to process a couple hundred.

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It's not bad if it were to receive like 1500. That would be definitely like, obviously putting.

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Those those data points on a map is going to be more difficult, but if we can have like.

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I guess I'm also thinking like you can have clusters, so we've got to do clusters showing.

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Up like boom there, okay, we got a cluster 50 in this general area. Okay, maybe they're a little.

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Off on locations at some point right, so this is, I think, I think where she was heading with this was.

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Us three or maybe a little extended group, go find where we suspect the problems are yeah unless.

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Those ahead of time right, yeah and I think that's a good idea and then use somebody else to describe.

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Those places so, I might say the hospital, but somebody else knows that is this. In other words,.

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Is somebody else's input how to describe those locations give them a list no more than what is it.

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Puts the five to seven rule yeah, you know five to seven items, give them five to seven locations to.

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Pick from- and I think that gets us there, because I, when I think about it, thinking about my own kids.

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Who aren't dummies, but my daughter especially does not get maps. Map is not a thing and it resonates.

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To her at all, what's the ultimate of you know taking a step back? What's the ultimate objective.

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We're not necessarily going to get answers on all this. This is really to get exactly, in other words,.

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There's a problem that I see right out of uh this many surveys sent we've had x percent respond so.

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That means there's an interest period right. You know, just the response rate is going to indicate.

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Interest and then, if you can get you guys saying based on these answers, congregates around here.

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And then it gives us numbers gives you the leverage right. You know it might not do anything.

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About it, but at least the population would see oh we're addressing it and that's right, divided.

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By pressure joining pressure, the companies hey, so why aren't you doing this as well right? The.

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Masses were just bad friends yeah, I think the other thing I regret when we get to that point.

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With that data, before I reread my graph, we want to lead with the sentences and talk about helping.

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Them first right right not about. We have a problem. Let's not start there to start with.

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You want to, we want to hear about your problems, providing data. What are your problems and here's.

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Some support because every things like that companies will never ask because.

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They know there's a problem right, but we can, you know, would push them to like going against.

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uh With knowledge that you said but yeah distance of data, let's see what we can do.

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Thank you because I honestly have not really had big problems, but I also don't know.

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I'm sorry att as well, but I'm also camping right.

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Now, how much are you actually using it when you're at home you're actually.

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See I would walk a ton and so I'll even walk to the hospital. With my appointments and I.

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Know, there's just a huge dead spot south of whatever it is yeah, there's no service, but.

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That may also be worked on very shortly, because you know the west end yards there. You have so.

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Many people that all of a sudden they may be just behind the curve or maybe they can.

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When you're at hospital grounds, you can hear the cars on 95., how is it possible? You have a dead.

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Spot I mean there's an interstate highway, it wasn't so close by so also, hospitals have high.

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High-Powered already for the academic issues that sometimes the navy that interferes yeah, I.

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Don't know, but it all depends on. What's your fans, you don't know what their frequencies are or what.

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Frequency bands- they am because when it was inside the hospital I I could get like two baths, but in.

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The parking lot- it was your serum yeah, which is not even wi-fi, so my tickets, we have the death.

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Star, uh maybe the hospital to providing some sort of insight, support and like a microsoft inside.

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Let me see too, um I meant to do this before when we started this.

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Conversation, but let me shoot uh an inquiry over to vote police and fire.

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um Because I know they are aware of these locations and obviously they use cellular.

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Service in a talking point- and I meant to do that earlier when we started this conversation.

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And I'm sitting here now thinking yeah, I'm going to do this for that. So I'll put that on my list.

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So you use atm t once I pass the new fire station across service big building there. It was pretty.

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Depth to be dead, so instead of five people in which atm team they'll probably have foreign.

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So that they get better service and that again, that goes to the identify the problem.

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Make some phone calls make some more phone calls invite people in to put in infrastructure and.

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And it it was that conversation right, peace.

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Boosters boost your signal, but that's your baby right right. Exactly so, you're getting five bars.

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Signals, but you probably still have it so yeah I mean all of these are good good questions. It seems.

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Like we got like a tentative format, so at least for locations, we identify the spots ahead of time.

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The list of questions, but for each question we ask the difference between signal and.

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Speed right, angularly, yeah now one other thing that you know I'm just looking at.

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The time just so we kind of keep moving on these two spaces. I don't know how much you've got it enclosed. You don't have a lot of closed session because there's a.

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Lot that is outstanding and not I don't have answers to from the last uh meeting. So I was.

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Going to let you know that you have the time that you need, because I don't have.

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um One also they are sort of thinking like. I know that, um just because I read pc mag, they.

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Had recently done a survey where they basically drove around the country with multiple different.

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Phones and they evaluated in certain areas now, admittedly, I don't think that portsmith ranks.

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Just because they're doing like larger cities and dallas, etc, etc. So in fact I don't, I think, boston's.

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Probably the biggest city, the only city we want to be discovered in, but I'm wondering if especially.

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Since the city is using these systems, is there any way that we can keep a half on somebody.

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Else to have studied where you know basically like again, I don't know if they're necessarily.

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Study or if it could be something simple like when they did the study, they were basically.

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Driving around with free phones, so sprint att and verizon, and they were they had a phone and they.

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Would get that point evaluate signal strength and they actually even went so far as they had.

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Maps where, like okay, they had sample points along where, like it was just simply red, green, yellow, so.

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At that point you know you had a general idea, but because they had so many sample points again, you.

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Would see the clustering of like okay? These are bad. These are great sections that these.

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Mikey areas, I don't know that you know science, fair project or something like that where that's.

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What I was just thinking I was just trying to think of, can somebody here mentioned ems or the.

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Buyer at least went to some alternate provider. For this very reason, we were certainly looking.

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At it- and I don't know whether they moved to att, but we were struggling with verizon so.

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The question is when they were going through that process. Somebody do that already. That's.

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Why I oh gotcha I was like, am I meant to ask someone who started to have this conversation.

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Okay, you know it's, it's definitely a that's a huge undertaking. I'm sure that if we have to.

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Hire somebody to do that that way, I think that you know.

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But if I'm thinking, if it's something that's valuable to.

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Put some fire, it may not be as big of an issues. They don't seem so engineering how.

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They consulted they do that they have that how they equipped they would travel around.

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Ultimate and give you data points right, but I'm thinking that that kind of that would be.

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Super, I would think, would probably be super expensive. You could do our own fact finding.

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uh You guys have att, I have verizon right, you just need somebody who is trying to get his yes.

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I I love the science project, though um so I'm a little brain is it's turning here.

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Well, there's high school has sometimes programs um and then there's that community college at.

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Great bay we've got, we use unh students in the public works department to do like water.

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Quality sampling and that kind of stuff, so we need public works, such as paramount interns.

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um Right now has an intern from unh. um So that's why I was trying to think.

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What contact I might have a particular department is that might be an easy.

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He used to be with the cable commission to be.

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um So that will uh like he was a he's, a professor, a voice professor at unh and specialized in.

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Wireless coverage, somebody throughout this idea, as we think about gathering data.

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Our mission, our mission, is to provide access to the citizens enforcement right and whether.

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Or not our the vehicle says good signal, it really doesn't matter. What really matters is. What's the.

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Experience of the people use it right, so I think really honestly come back to the survey. It's.

B

Going to be able to die for the piece of data we're going to gather because it says, are the.

B

Citizens getting what they want, yes or not. Is that something, whereas if we can go out and build maps.

B

All day long, like we say att, look you got a huge dead spot here. The answer could be so yeah does.

B

Anybody here right, who cares so the care question, I think, is probably the most important thing.

A

A

One or more of you will kind of think of the areas of town.

A

Where you have identified, I have my list through the end of the runway.

A

um And- and we put our list together and I'll work with stephanie, let's see if we come up.

A

With something and I'll also in the meantime, I'll object with police and fire and see what.

A

They have for data um and now a radio technical correction um because he's been like, I said I.

A

Know he works with. I think it was horizon at uh at the community campus recently, because.

A

More than what they had over there so.

C

um So, yes, yes, so what we'll do is we'll have somebody else come back and yeah, and so we.

A

Should find it on a meeting date right also like some ideas for questions to survey, questions.

A

So is there anything else we would want to know? I have no signal or data is slow, identify some.

A

Locations, it's easy for them to check the box or write in their home address or their workplace or.

A

Or just another, if they want to say yeah when I, when I go to get my haircut yeah, it's the address.

A

um Who's, your provider, I mean: do we really need much more than that? I think audiences.

B

What are you doing? In other words, okay, like people use the gps, stick.

B

Right there might be like that's where it trips me. Absolutely it's a streaming.

B

Video like, if somebody is like using their selling or you don't have wi-fi to sell.

B

Here's what drives me crazy- and this is a real first world problem, but I'll.

B

Be out of the driving range or I'll be on my way back and stop at marketplace.

B

And then I want to look is the dry cleaners, and then I don't have data yes, yes right. Yes,.

B

I can't see at the very under control. Yes, I have to resort to a phone call.

B

Exactly is about it. I did that I was trying to see if the gnc was open there, yeah and.

C

All of a sudden, it's just like the data stops yeah, something happens, yeah right. My experience as well.

A

Okay, so we need to give some. I think it would be helpful if we give some.

A

People some examples, for example, are you using gps? Are you well? Maybe we go ahead.

A

To be trying to check your email with some very basic ones,.

C

I think we, I kind of like having giving them a few choices just because otherwise we're going.

B

To get a lending that we're going to have the sort through, whereas if we have just like you.

B

Said on location people, yes, and even if it gives them enough, I think the other question.

B

We should ask, is: do you have a landline yeah public safety if they don't have a landline.

B

And they got poor signal like one of the questions. Where do you live.

B

So tell us where you like, gives you it's a willing to give us the address. That'll give.

B

It to the pinpoint you have a good cellular service where you live. Do you have landmark.

B

As you know, and I won't say we draw the conclusion, but you can enter from that that there's a slight.

B

Public safety issue here for people to contact- and I wouldn't want you to be in this and then.

B

We have dead spots, that's not good, yes, and it's exacerbated by the lack of landline people.

C

In your cell phone yeah, I don't know, I suppose that you have enough.

C

Playback, that's true. I think I do too, but absolutely amazing.

B

So is there any other things.

B

Government society.

A

uh I only put that on there because I realized we should generally allow public comment. Yeah.

A

I want to participant advice, yep, okay,.

C

A new person right, yes, uh who hopefully will be appointed at the next meeting on september 19th.

B

B

um Why do we so you have anything for clothes? I got. I got nothing new.

A

Because I don't have the answer.

A

As far as data previous data that we've been provided in the past.

B

To we had the follow-up questions which I don't know.

A

I was thinking more like data points, for you know where richard is right, perhaps at the time.

A

Again, one question, though it doesn't make sense to ask for a meeting with the fellow.

A

Just to say, we've been thinking about. What's in your mind as we think about the most.

A

Representative, okay, just for her in front of me, chad.

B

I assume, if you, if he came to music right, okay,.

B

um And also uh this other member made me feel, like he'll, hopefully be improved for next meeting. So.

B

I'm gonna say if, for some reason it gets hung up.

B

You probably ought to invite him to a non-member dissident. You can kind of keep getting up to speed.

B

Well, so did I also.

A

So um yeah so assuming uh the new person is added on the 19th.

A

You could look at the back end of that week or the following week.

A

That'll also give me a couple of weeks to work with stephanie on what we just talked about. What.

A

To propose the first week in october, if that's possible, that works actually really well for me,.

A

Yom kippur is a bit, so we might want to stay with that date.

C

I could do the 12th as well.

B

A

And it's four o'clock: is it working okay, all right, so I will that's good, because that may.

A

Give enough time for the comcast, you know it's calendar, two one. You know to knock a.

A

Bunch of things cellular piece should have answered by then those outstanding questions.

A

Yeah I'd take them up. Stick around.

A

So is there any problem with that data.

B

Second, all right: good you're, ready, good.