City of Portsmouth, New Hampshire Cemetery Committee, 7 Sep 2023

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9.7.2023 Cemetery Committee

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Thank you for everyone for coming in this hot weather. um We'll do roll call, so here.

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Here, yeah yeah, all right, then this is jim, who is um zoomed in a couple of years later, a peter.

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Sorry, I'm sorry peter, I know better. All of a sudden, I my mind is so I am sorry peter.

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um Michael griffin present myself, I'm here, dd, forte and celeste brooks.

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And again I apologize peter. um I think it's something about sitting here, having to run a.

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Meeting gets me um yeah, so, even though I've done it a number of times lately.

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um First, the oh: we have to approve the minutes. Did everyone have a chance to read it.

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Hope that we approve the minutes, you second, your second yeah everyone in favor, aye.

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um On the top of the list is not a quick slideshow, but we're going to do it real.

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Quick because a couple of things came up at the last minute and we'll answer some.

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Of the questions that are on the agenda or cover some of them so.

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There are a couple places, no matter what I did. It would not.

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um Put it back in order, let me see if I can share screen so that it will show on this.

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We don't have anyone on zoom yeah, no, she said she wasn't sure if she, okay.

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Texted me and said she's trying to get her she's, exhausting, okay, we'll just kind of.

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I should pop if yep or I can share screen okay yeah.

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Will it ring when she tries to get on? I think so, okay or I can formally.

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Share the screen, you know, let me share the screen. So if she comes on yeah hang on.

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So I've been bouncing forth back and forth between teams and this okay and share.

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There we go okay, great, this uh first slide is where um the reinterment is going to have take.

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Place that we just briefly spoke about the remains that they found in the construction.

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When doing the rebuilding of the wall, someone did take down one of the tags, but our fence posts and.

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There's three that are there in the missing one is in the middle. So just keep that in mind because.

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The next slide is not that up there. Okay, that should do it. Yeah has the date been set. No, no.

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We're gonna talk about that. I did. What did he yeah, let's go here and and try and advance it.

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Oh shoot yeah, should you just go with the oh there we go um so keep that picture in mind. We got.

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um For some more information later on, we did the city, um I think it's jake that came down or jay.

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Came down with the water truck and he did have to refill it once um with a power washer, and I can't.

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Believe until I put this together today that I didn't take a picture of it after we washed it.

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um No, it's not! No, it's not, after all that black down in there and over there is much lighter the.

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Top over here with that, um it's grayish black that has all faded away too, because I've been.

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Checking it every day or not every day, but when I go by I look so I will get another picture but.

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Anyway, it took about three hours, he had to go back and fill up the tank once to complete it, and I did.

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Help him so I sprayed d2 and helped scrub and stuff like that. So it really. It was a good day.

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And um so that was done about a month ago, I think is roughly when it was done. um Next, one is just to.

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Show you how good head cleaning is going. This one is in north cemetery and I personally cleaned it.

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Back last june, a year ago june- and this is what it looks like today- with nobody touching it yeah.

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Just to show you how well this product can work, so it's been over a year and it doesn't even have.

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Anything on it right now. I was up there last week so just to show everybody how well the product.

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Works, um someone from city hall or I don't know if you're not forwarded me an email from.

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The signers uh descendants of the signers of the declaration of independence, which is.

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Located out of virginia- and I spoke to the woman- and she is really nice.

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This is what they did a number of years ago. They had a little ceremony and they put this on his.

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Tomb what their their next project is. They want to dedicate any headstones that belong.

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To the wives of these signers that they were, even though they didn't physically sign the.

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Documentation, they were a part of all of that, so I did. This is mary whipple's headstone, which.

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Is next to his tomb, so I have forwarded that information on to them. I mean what did I say.

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I said mary yeah, that's not his wife. His wife is catherine and she's bearing out of the london tomb.

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Everything I looked up online said he was married to mary whipple catherine mary was his mother.

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Okay, so- and that's also the name they gave me yes, catherine whipple was his wife.

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And she's buried at the london because she's the lion yeah, she was a cousin of elena okay. I thought.

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Of you, when I did this, but I trusted um one of the and it wasn't wikipedia. But anyway I will look.

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Into that, according to sukopedia yeah, I was just gonna say our north cemetery swipe is catherine.

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Okay, so I'm glad I ran it by this so onwards, so I will solve the debate on catherine or mary yeah.

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um Now this goes back to that very, very first picture that the headstone I mean.

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The where the sticks were marking and where the tubes are for the reinternment.

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um I looked at a lot of or contacted a lot of granite places and they wanted exorbitant amount.

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Of money for um anything, basically, even if we did two by threes and numbered them over over.

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Each tube and then it had a larger one. We were talking about four or five six thousand dollars.

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Depending once we we get to a certain number of letters, then they started charging you by.

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Letters- and that was pretty common- I contacted five places all over the state, so um went back to.

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um You see these kinds of bronze plates all over town or any place actually, but around our town too.

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And crown trophy, which is out of concord, new hampshire.

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um They deal in this. I actually drove up there last week and these uh just copies.

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Of the four different sort of styles that are available and his price, you know a long skinny.

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One, if we wanted it more of a rectangular, smaller type thing and then more of a square.

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um What we would have to do is catherine wheeler, who is the archaeologist offered to write up some.

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Sort of dedication for the site and these bronze can be buried in the ground too. They don't have.

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To stand up or be mounted on anything, um so if we get a brief statement from her of what she would.

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Like then, we could go, we would send in a proof of you know whether we put a city of portsmouth.

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Logo on you know, sign on the top and then have uh you know, description and or a dedication written.

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Below then, we send it to them and they would sort of judge what the best style, how to fit it into.

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A plaque these were all just to give you ideas of the different kinds that we can get, how simple or.

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How fancy that we want to make it so um then it takes approximately four to eight weeks to well.

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They can get back to you in a day and a half on what the price would be and send a proof back.

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To be okayed and that it doesn't cost anything to work with them. If people didn't like it, then.

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It could be changed again and then it would take. I don't know if you can hear me, can you hear me? Yes,.

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It's eva yeah, are you ah hi hi? um Do they tell you anything about? You know what materials hold.

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Up better yeah, they do yeah. Really, the only thing is you, the bronze like this or gram, and there's.

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Also, uh he showed me some other material, but it's just really skinny and it might last it made for.

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Outdoor but it's really more like a laminate, so it would go over yeah. That looks like a laminate. You.

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Know it's hard to tell on my laptop but uh okay, it would go over whatever, like whether cedar or what.

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Have you, but it might last about 10 or 15 years. There was no guarantees or even estimates of what.

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How long it might last, which makes sense, because you don't know what the weather is so right.

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So once the design comes back- and it's approved right now, lead times are four to eight weeks.

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And the other thing I found out when I was doing research on using granite.

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um The uh there's a granite shortage right now because of all the floods that have happened up.

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In vermont and up in other parts of new england that a lot of the granite sites are, I don't know.

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If they're still flooded, but they can't get in there, so that's also an issue that pumped up wow.

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um So that's the end, let me so if we did that and placed it.

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We could do something like this, which would be a piece of granite, and it could go over like a.

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Foot marker, you could go over each the location of each stone and the other thing karn, and I.

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Talked about it is that when we cap the pvc he's going to seal it with some sort of whatever it is.

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So it can't be unscrewed very easily, and then we could put something like this over the top of it.

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um Or I came across this and I have no idea how much it doesn't and that's in sagamore cemetery.

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um How much uh anything like that would cost, so I didn't even price it out and I started a week.

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Or so ago, and it doesn't even have to be set on the granite piece, we could get pieces that were.

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Long enough to stand up on their own- oh maybe we couldn't, because it's not that deep down anyway,.

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We could do something like this and have three upright stones. If that's what we wanted to do or.

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Or depending on the cost, so that's where we stand with all of this at this point and.

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I know you said you wanted to talk about a time and I didn't know if or set a date. I did speak.

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To pastor jen at north church, really nice, woman really young- why is a really young competition.

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Really nice and she's really excited about doing it and um gave her just the background.

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She wanted to know who was being reinterned and that sort of stuff, so she's on board with doing.

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Some sort of ceremony that day too so I did I didn't know um I mean like when we know there's.

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Somebody that unless it's in a predetermined grave site, that's already has a headstone. I mean we.

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Are you know the norm is to bury people and not necessarily have the marker there that day, so.

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Yeah I like having the marker, that's whatever, um particularly given that we'll be working to.

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Kind of inscribe it in a way that tells short not for the the story um were you so let me ask.

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This and- and I don't think we're fixed on on how how it looks, but are you thinking, based on the.

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On kind of the options that you've been kind of exploring with corin that it's three capstones and.

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Then a single bronze plaque, or were you thinking a bronze plaque? Oh just a single, I was thinking.

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um So we would put that a cap, you know the caps would be sealed. Then we could either put like a.

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Foot stone of some sort and then uh right where the tree is maybe in front there. Yep put the.

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The plaque right there so I mean that would be the least expensive way, not that you know.

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Anybody really wants to be cheap about it, but all these things are very expensive, so, together yeah.

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Coren thought something that lays flat would be actually better yeah in that spot yeah does that.

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Concur with your thinking, yeah, because there, who knows what kind of roots are there too yeah with.

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That tree, so um because the other way we we had looked at it was, you know, doing a plaque on each.

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um Spot over each tube, but that would have been like nine thousand dollars.

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Because they would have been individually, even though- and I said well, we have individual names.

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No right- and I asked you know, can't we get a discount, you only have to set up once.

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Like whatever it's going to say because oh no, it doesn't work that way. So obviously they weren't.

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Interested in working with us, so three cap stones and a nice plaque. So it's nice, I don't know not.

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Anybody have any other ideas on you know, foreign.

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I don't know we could contact so what we could do is we could chase that down a little bit if.

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The committee's thinks that kind of direction is good, then we'll see if we can firm it up and yeah.

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It would the price would all depend on getting something ordered. What kathy yeah right, how.

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Big yeah it is but yeah. He said typically on the stones, the bronze that anywhere from 150 dollars.

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Up to five hundred dollars, so you know compared to what prices I was getting so and I can't imagine.

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Foot stones are that expensive and as much as I hate to say it corn, they might be able to come up.

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With something anyway, if they have a free moment over there, because we have all kinds of granite.

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Sitting over on constitution ave. So if it's not it's hard enough for curbing this granite on the.

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Side of the road there right on constitution- oh yeah, yeah this place- is all over town that this.

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Piles of granite, but all over town, but there's different places, yeah well, we do have our eyes.

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On reusing, some of it so but yeah, but the smaller pieces, yeah, yeah, yeah and- and he has said in the.

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Past that, gentlemen, that makes the signs and things like that works yeah with granite too so.

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um One of those long pieces and put it in there and inscribe you know- remains number one remains.

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Number two yeah: when we get down to that point but yeah I agree and a lot of things are possible.

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Especially once we get to get something physical as far as the plaque and then take it from there.

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So, do you want to contact kathleen and yeah get hurt, yeah yeah? Why don't you and I set up.

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A meeting and we'll talk with her okay yeah no problem so that well, I think I'm going through.

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What is the distance between the total overall distance? I know you're missing the middle stake.

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Oh, I know ah I can't remember 10 feet, uh maybe that maybe I was gonna say I remember because I.

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Drove by it this morning and I was actually paying attention, I'm like there's a steak missing. I was.

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Gonna, ask you yeah, it's been missing for a while, and I have the measurements written on something.

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At home, but yeah, it's not extremely long. I mean a great distance. The the tubes are actually placed.

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Because kathleen was with us the day that karen and max dug up the um to find the caps they're.

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They're down about three or four inches now, since uh 2016 and um they're supposed to be roughly in.

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The locations where the coffins went out like this so they're roughly in the locations where.

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They found the remains yeah all right, so we, if no one else, has anything. Do you think the appropriate.

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Time frame would be to get this done before winter. That's our that's yeah! That's our goal!.

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There's no, I I know what you're saying is, but there's no real.

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Deep digging, so if we're lucky for us, I mean we'll just see as soon as I can get something from kathy.

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And then we can get that right off. To crown you know, we'll have a better a better idea of how.

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But I would think even because I've planted tulips in november and grounds not super frozen.

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Or anything, usually yeah, you could go back to that slide with that little pedestal. Cap.

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uh Which one looks like a little tiny pyramid? Oh, um where I might go.

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I don't know where it went that one yeah.

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That you know I was just singing the the caps aren't very.

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um Far down, but they don't have to be buried right over the caps, because they're going to.

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Be sealed, so we could still put them in there in front of the cap to make sure.

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That they say in the ground, yeah that came out of your cemetery too. Oh.

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It's funny, I rode around a lot of different ones, and I just.

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Find anything and then came up with these two. Oh the other one.

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I mean it's really just a matter of preference and cost at this point.

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Any other questions will we be prepared to vote on them.

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Resolution next meeting- hopefully, if we yeah I, I would think so because this is.

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The first it's still the first of the month and if kath kathy wheeler is not tied up with.

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You know traveling overseas or something she might be able. She probably already has something written.

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Sort of knowing her that she's been looking forward to getting this done so the other.

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Option is, if we, because of the closing window, if we wanted to, we could call a special me. You.

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Know quick, do a quick poll, the cemetery committee, members and say: hey: are you available and if you.

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Are that's great, we'll know it's a short meeting just to look at that and get that done set a date.

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A lot of people in the city will be happy when this is done too. So.

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I think that's great yeah, I mean I think we should do it anyway, but I mean it will.

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Take one of those so I have to, and I just wanted to show you these two out of all our cemeteries.

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Union cemetery is the worst as far as cleaning goes. um I personally cleaned this one and it.

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Took me five five cleanings to get it down to there whoa so and I'm not complaining.

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I'm just saying how bad and sue's been over there too. We did go through um one of the.

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We a couple people on the city crew help when they come. They they participate in cleaning and doing.

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Stuff like that, which has been really great, and um so this last time when I was working on this.

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Fran was doing, um he must have sprayed about 60 headstones and he sprayed a couple of these, but he.

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He focused on the headstones and I've been going down. Luckily, we got all that really heavy rain.

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And it has made a difference they're not by any stretch and imagination, even as clean as this.

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But they're getting closer to where you can read them than before, and um someone some of the others.

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That we had sprayed up front two cleanings ago and then we came in and cleaned again [music] um are.

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Just about really clean, I mean they really don't have to be touched. It would just be trying to be.

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More perfect or anal about it so um yeah, so it's going well and this product really works.

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Well, so I would recommend it to anybody going forward and I have had contact with a few other.

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Cemetery people, through my travels and everyone uses d2 now locally. They all rave about how.

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York and kittery both use it. So so I think that's all the pitches on there yep yeah and.

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I'll bring a picture, a new picture of um oh wait. I thought I had the doors on here. Wait a minute.

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So I had the doors for.

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That's all right I'll bring it up. I did bring individual pictures of the five doors at.

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Cotton cemetery up close pictures, the you can see which one has already been repaired and the other.

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um Those three and then the double door makes five still gonna. Try to.

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Get in to because dick adams has been saying that there's.

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A downstairs where that double door is- and he knows the doors are down there so.

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um And he said he was going to try to get down in there, but I haven't heard anything from him. So.

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um Anyway, the only difference it would make if, if the old doors are down below and they're, even near.

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Being restored, it might drop off some of the price, but the price right now to get the double doors.

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And the other three or two in the middle, just scraped and repainted and secured in a couple.

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Spots and then the lat, the other door, you can't oh yeah, you can't see it because it blends in the.

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um The granite, on the end it's made out of wood, is made out of wood, so.

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um I, the price that we received was twenty four hundred dollars altogether.

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And we paid like eight for just the ones, so that's still pretty cheap and- and he did a really good.

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Job on that other door, fabulous job so um so 2400 to to clean, to clean, to take care of and with the.

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Possibility of the other doors are downstairs depending on the shape it might be less money. So.

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So anyway, and then, while I have it up here- karen wants to.

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uh Well, I do too, but um where the blank granite is right, there put cotton cemetery.

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In the same font as what is on the corner, when you proprietors- uh and it would be in the same.

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Genre of the I don't know, if you can, that the reason I know it, this isn't a clean one, because.

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Now, when you ride by, you can see the 1854 there, it stands right out, there's no black in the way, so it.

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Would it would blend in with what that number of letters are inscribed? He would do the or not him.

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But he has someone that, does it or knows someone that doesn't so I mean with the doors fixed and.

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Inscribed, so everyone will officially know where cotton cemetery is located. um That would finish.

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Up at least the presentation of the cemetery, I don't think he's ever gotten the recognition it.

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Really needs because no one knows it's there or everyone just speaks at south street and it's our.

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Second, oldest cemetery in the city, so there goes point of graves. Cotton, pleasant, street.

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Then um north and then union and I think hall cemetery actually comes in after.

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Cotton before pleasant, or vice versa, those are the oldest and they're all 1700s, when they.

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Were officially started so does anyone have any questions for any of the slides? Well, the sections.

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Beneath the masonry, brick yeah they've all been cleaned. Okay, that everything's been cleaned and.

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I I just can't believe that I haven't taken a picture of the finished product, but um yeah.

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And we're still going to work on trying to get rid of some of that tar. That's on the stones up above.

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The brick somebody when they retired up there, whatever that building, is just let the tar just.

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Drip down the front of it so and we tried a lot of things that day and nothing worked. So nothing may.

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Work but the rest of it is actually been clean and much brighter than what it is right now so.

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Any other questions for this part of the agenda.

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All right so point of grace.

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I already mentioned, I think, at the last meeting about the wall.

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Being damaged but it's holding up so um one of the reasons I keep bringing this back up.

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Is because this whole thing about pointed gray started from a neighborhood meeting when they.

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Asked the mayor to the friends of south end: ask the mayor to do do something about this wall. So.

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um I'll just keep you know, upgrading or keeping updating and I think suzanne. You had said that.

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Things might be moving down in that part on mechanic street between the utility.

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Spot and the drain the septic thing that things might happen or a pumping station. I should say.

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Yeah um so might happen, but not this year. Well, I mean peter had said to us like four or five years.

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Out- and I know you can't tell us, I might change but right we're looking at whether to move up the.

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Project the mechanic street pump station project, okay, so my other thing we're developing the cip.

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This fall, so I think we're going to have a better understanding of which projects are gonna, get.

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Sort of wearing the cycle and that edge yeah lower edge that low point would be in probably an area.

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That we'd study, as we look at that whole area and how to meet the long-term needs right and.

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So does that sort of eliminate us from being in the prescott park water testing they didn't even.

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Do that this year, did they right? We wound up not doing as much as we thought we would.

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Do and there's revisiting of the scope of work and next steps. So, okay, so just as long as yeah.

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The friends ask again, and we can um a couple of things that came out of that parking and traffic.

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Meeting this morning is that they are removing some parking area from that mechanic street.

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And to make the traffic, because right now there are some areas that are so.

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Tight, even the emergency vehicles can get through so they're trying to make an area.

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No parking so at least delivery trucks, and that kind of thing will be able to move about.

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Hoping that it was really destroyed so yeah.

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Not really, but it would have added and another suzanne, and I talked just briefly one minute.

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A while ago, I've been looking through old pictures and the outside of point of graves. The wall is.

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Not worth fixing I mean that overcoat is just crumbling, and all of that so I found a picture.

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That goes back, I think, to 1835 or something like a painting and as best as I can can determine it.

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Was all brick probably from whenever the first time they put up a wall around it? So.

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um I'm sure they didn't do it for the college, though you never know.

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And I don't know how I mean that was back in the 1600s, so um so I'll just keep doing a researcher.

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If anybody finds a picture that goes back farther than the turn of century 18 1800, um you know.

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Share it with us and because I'd like to tear down everything and either put up you know a new brick.

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Fans but are wow, but it or something that would be appropriate of even putting a wrought iron around.

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The hole the whole thing so because the gate is, you know all wrought iron and everything so.

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So there's nothing urgent down there. That has to be looked into at this point in time. Luckily,.

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Hall cemetery: um I think it's great news, because I've been working with max max came up with.

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um We've had, I think, seven now, seven different tree people have come and scoped out hall.

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Cemetery- and I think I said last time anywhere from a hundred thousand to sixty thousand to.

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Down to I originally got three for fifteen thousand, because I told them that's all. I had.

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You know that we had um well, we went back, we found one of the original people will do the.

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Section the actual cemetery section nulls um for um like eleven thousand dollars, not even that I.

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Don't think um we've talked to neighbors, I just happened to be there one of the or when we were.

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Doing a walk through one of the neighbors was there and he's very excited to get it.

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Done because we're going to take four of his trees down which could fall on his house so in.

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um So if we want to go up the hill, it won't be on his property, but we offer or we didn't offer noel.

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Said they would like to take those trees down and the big bone of contention or the elephant in the.

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Cemetery is that big um white ash white ash- I mean it's huge and it's dead and it needs to come down.

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So that's the driving force or part of the driving force so and the homeowner agreed with it too. That.

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That ash is in pretty tough shape and he doesn't want to wake up in the middle of the night and.

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Have half a house so um so that was good and we I made contact and so did max with the homeowner.

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On the other side, who's selling to the homeowner across the street, um but they're both in agreement.

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That we could go up there, um there is a big open space and there is an incline and that there might.

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Be a little bit of grading that needs to be done, but neither one of them had a problem with that.

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Because, especially the soon-to-be homeowner wants, it cleared out the cemetery too so um and then I.

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Know you know petra and the other gentleman on the other side, um they won't be involved on the.

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Cemetery end of it, but then the other gentleman that came in he's actually going to do it. The.

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Old-Fashioned way, they're going to climb trees and just take them down because he says it's faster.

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And easier because it's such a tight situation and then he can get a small piece of equipment.

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Up in there that will chip all the wood and leave a really great walking path up there. So it'll take.

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Care of anything that should try to grow up again and we won't have to haul everything out, which is.

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What a lot of the other people wanted to do and we'd have to get patrol and tie up there. You go.

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The truth, uh seacoast trees, it was somebody that corrid knew and um he came down right.

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Away after max called him and he was great and so and he came in at 9 000, so I know max was.

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Going to take it to peter, I know that peter has signed off on releasing the funds for the work.

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That's my happy news for today guys.

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So um you really have to give kudos to max. He has really worked hard on this and uh got quite a crew.

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Yeah they took down that siberian elm today gone, but we're on middle road. Oh wow, um yeah he's just.

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Done a fantastic job and he's learning like we are as far as what procedures are so um yeah we've.

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Been buddies about it, so um great news, so I'll, let you know when they're talking about hill-off davis.

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um Let's see cotton cemetery, we talked about all of that uh pleasant street.

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There's nothing urgent over there. um The only thing I'll say about pleasant is last.

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Year, they did go over there and limb up the cedar trees and it doesn't look bad at all.

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um Those are abilities, oh they were. I thought they would see uh whatever.

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The degrees yeah and they did fill in, which is what the big debate was. They.

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Won't or they will- and it looks good so there's nothing urgent over there. um North and north.

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The only thing I have to say to that is.

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um We haven't cleaned the last couple of back rows down in the back. We knew that only because once we.

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Get down back even for a union, it's going to be a hassle getting water and stuff done in there. So.

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However, I did an addition. um Let's see point of that. We've totally cleaned point of grace.

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Totally clean cotton and pleasant street, which adds up to um and part of north adds up to 1728.

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um Headstones, but we still have roughly 1300 to go, so um I don't think so. It's only been a year and.

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A half so we've done really really good on that and our um I don't know if anybody's all right.

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I did get into facebook a call to clean headstones and I've gotten two responses.

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Out of that so- and we didn't make it into the newsletter and monty- did a really nice job.

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Doing the write-up and he said going forward, we could submit any kind of history about the.

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Cemetery and if he needs space or has room, he will gladly put it in the newsletter which will be nice.

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um Union, the sea wall is instilling the permitting situation, yep.

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um So we've been back and forth working with the contractor and we need to work with the butter.

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To see if we can we're back to discussions about staging and getting the equipment in.

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Through that way, so we're trying to handle that, but it is, I talked with.

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Christine and they're working on it yeah, so I mean all of this is yep takes time.

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um Then uh and then the back side of north is going to as far as I know as suzanne.

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Can confirm it's going to be rolled into the new outflow? That's going to take place down.

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In there, so we may not cost us really anything depending on what the state comes back with too.

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So because they're still really big into natural plantings and all that sort of stuff so we'll see.

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um What else clg the certified local government? I still haven't, heard anything back on that did.

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You have a chance to talk to pita brits. You know, I think I dropped the ball and forgot.

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To ask them where that stood right I can. I can I can email him just you know, hey do.

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You know anything yeah you could ping him and and safe, because I knew there was something I.

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um And that and again that will help us with getting more funds and things like that.

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But we were like two items short right before nick left, so that got put on the back burner.

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um I have caught up with corn signs for dust to dawn and the new hampshire registry sign for union.

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Will be put back on the schedule to get done. This fall sometimes along the line and.

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Those are going down into well, obviously, union, but also down at north cemetery. So.

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um Database again has got hung up for some reason, really yeah and uh so katie at the.

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Library is going to contact adam one more time and see okay. um What what the hold up is so I'll.

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Follow up because it did look like there was communication, but it yeah and katie even thinks.

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It's done for some reason well, because it was said that it was done and was supposed to be tested. So.

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um There's just some sort of miscommunication we've worked. We talked about three internment.

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And the dis descendants of the signers- I don't have anything else, my goodness so.

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um What's the level of involvement of the elks with presenting wreaths on the graves of.

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Revolutionary war, they haven't approached me in a while, so um I think they already have the list of.

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um Where the revolutionary headstones are, however- and I warned them that they need to.

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Walk to cemeteries way before that day, because you'll never find them and that there are mats.

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Around so I mean I can touch base with them and see if they need any help from us per se, but.

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I'm not even sure who's still leading that, but I'll check. Okay um and just for general.

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Information, I am doing a slideshow for the dar [music] on our historic cemeteries and.

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I'm hoping that what I put together, it's so little of the history of each cemetery.

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um Some other, not so well-known people who have are buried in them, like I found out.

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um This one gentleman was a famous balloonist back in the early 1800s and he used to go all over the.

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United states, but he lived here in portsmouth and there are articles in the gazette about how.

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Excited people were because he would give people rides in the balloon from downtown portsmouth.

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And stuff like that, and then we have another gentleman that developed the hand compass who.

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Was internationally known and I have all the stories on him he's buried, um so I mean there.

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Are a lot of people that have done some research on that? Don't focus just on whipple and langdon.

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um Peter shore, you know was: uh does he have a compass for arizona's grave? No, he doesn't know.

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um No lizzy berry he's buried in north cemetery, he's also one he and his wife.

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Are the first two catholics to be buried over there? So um that's how I get and then jane boyd.

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Was captain boyd's wife she's buried over there, but she did. I have her her death notice in the.

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Newspaper and she did all kinds, she was well known for her volunteerism and things like that in the.

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Community, so it's people and- and there are a lot of ship captains over there buried over there and.

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I got names of some of their ships that can be connected to them and the trips they made so more.

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Than not the builders but the actual captains that sailed them so that created that triangle.

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Of sugar and molasses and rum back in the day so yeah, so that's that will have a combinations.

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um Hopefully, from there we can use it for add things and use it for other things. So.

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Does anybody have any what is dick adams doing his presentation on saturday? I don't know. I.

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Haven't heard anything from, is he doing one down at south cemetery? No, it's it's over here in.

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Lincoln park or even park: oh no, I'm civil war encampment for the whole weekend. Oh there is.

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Oh wow, I haven't even seen it in he's thinking through the kia sarge, which is that naval war.

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Vessel in the civil war right, but there hasn't even been anything in the newspaper about it,.

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I did the dollar for six months, so I do read it so.

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um But usually they have it's on that little city newsletter site.

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The city newsletter or the do you get that every monday yeah is it in there? Oh, I did. It might be.

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But I think I know I read it somewhere: okay, it's probably the one. It's gonna be busy this weekend.

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Because no right, let's hope the weather, cooperates, yeah lots of thunderstorms coming through and then.

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Real quick because it's one of the things I put in the slide and then we're done if no one has.

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Anything and I thought it was quite appropriate not to sell why we should.

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um Repair our cemeteries here in portsmouth, but show show me the manner in which a nation.

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Or community cares for instead, and I will measure with mathematical, exactness the.

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Tender mercies of its people, their respect for the laws of the land and their loyalty.

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To high aisle ideals- and it was on william gladstone's headstone down in point of graves,.

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So I I just thought that was a pretty good and that was 18 back in the 1800s early 1800s. So.

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um I come across these things and it keeps me going [laughter] any anything. That's why you.

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Get your nickname, yeah, obviously really, and I and I will have to put my grandparents in one.

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Of these slideshows, because that's how I got going at pleasant street somewhere there right.

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um If no one helps a motion to return, second, we're done so. Thank you guys.