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8.10.2022 Historic District Commission
B
B
B
Get
this
thing
through
I'm
going
to
introduce
everybody
here.
This
is
dan
brown
on
my
right.
B
Good
evening
and
martin
ryan,
hello
and
reagan
rudig
vice
chair,
I'm
john
wyckoff,
the
chair.
B
B
And
karen
buffer
good
evening,
all
righty,
so
we
have
administrative
approvals.
D
D
D
B
It
gets
assigned
a
number
one
when
it's
going
to
be
developed.
Okay,
it
appears
that
we've
gone.
B
D
Mechanical
condenser
on
the
top
of
the
worth
building
right
next
to
the
worth
lot
on
conger.
D
B
E
Looks
very
difficult
to
see
that
from
the
sidewalk
yeah
anywhere,
okay,
231
south
street
is
a
very.
D
Okay,
does
anybody
have
any
heartburn
over
a
stone
wall.
B
D
B
D
D
Do
separately,
given
the
questions
last
time,
but
so
maybe
you
want
to
vote
on
one
through
four
that.
D
C
B
D
I
know
the
applicant
beth
is
here
and
maybe
her
parents
I
met
with
them
today.
This
is
the
one
we.
D
D
So
this
facade,
that's
shown
in
the
upper
half
of
the
the
screen
up.
There
faces
court
street.
D
So
that
was
the
sketch
we
had
there's
no
new
drawings.
I
think,
what's
what's
presented
below.
D
D
D
B
Yeah,
you
know
it's
not
unusual.
I
ask
if
anybody
on
the
board
would
like
to
discuss
this
at
all.
Yes,.
A
A
D
Yeah,
introduce
yourself
beth
and
your
name
and
address
I'm
beth
danilowski.
I
live
at.
C
Five
washington
street
we're
in
the
process
of
reopening
richardson's
market,
and
we
need
this.
C
Secondary
egress
on
the
back
of
the
building
in
order
to
open.
So
basically,
I
am
at
your
mercy.
C
C
Should
be
accessing
so
I
was
talking
to
nick
before
about
doing
pressure
treated
for
the.
C
Frame
and
then
potentially
using
composite
for
the
treads
and
maybe
the
railing,
but
we
we
were.
C
D
D
E
Section
look
better
and
adding
an
actual
actual
working
door
is
great.
I
don't
have
design
with.
E
The
stairs
at
all
yeah,
just
as
long
as
we
can
kind
of
find
a
better,
a
more
attractive
material.
D
D
A
tread
because
we
didn't
talk
about
that.
I
don't
remember,
and
I
I
think
it's
worth.
I
had
no
clue.
D
D
B
You
know
the
fact
that
you're
going
to
have
to
construct
this
thing,
the
basic
construction.
B
B
E
I'm
neither
here
nor
there
on
the
design
yeah.
I
would
agree
as
long
as
the
door
was.
H
Painted
it
didn't,
you
know
pop
out,
I
think
in
the
back
of
the
building
it
wouldn't
it's
not.
I
Like
the
reason
I
had,
those
pictures
up
closer
was
their
cars
back
there.
So
it's
not.
B
Well,
I
think
you've
been
very
agreeable
and
thank
you
very
much
so
the
the
two
stipulations.
J
Kinds
of
different
materials
and
have
no
general
impact,
but
I
think
I
I
think
the
idea
of
a.
J
D
It'll,
look
like
wood
from
that
distance
and
I
don't
know
if
you
looked
into
that,
but.
D
Was
good
enough
to
me?
I
think
that's
fine,
but
you
know
david
has
mentioned
that
he
doesn't.
J
On
it,
for
all
kinds
of
egress
reasons,
I
would
think
would
be
a
thing
that.
J
That
you
could
handle
yes,
because
I
think
everybody
here
is
in
agreement
that.
B
A
composite
railing
system
consistent
with
the
islington
street
project
I
referred
to.
B
Get
the
store
open
all
right,
I'm
sorry
here
we're
now
moving.
We
have
something
here
on
our
agenda.
B
Because
we
have
some
new
information
nick
well
yeah
I'd
like
to.
I
just
got
a.
B
Little
bit
ahead
of
me,
but
I'm
on
the
demo
review
committee
with
john
and
we.
D
Long
ago
on
the
committee
that
the
the
ordinance
really
doesn't
have
any
teeth.
D
D
D
D
We're
putting
this
off
until
september
17th,
I
move
that
we
move
the
demolition
review
committee.
E
B
B
B
D
One
while
bob's
coming
up
one
reigns,
have
has
been
a
subject
of
some
litigation.
D
B
K
Surprised
because
you
noticed
that
nick
did
not
introduce
me
as
the
city
attorney.
K
K
Opposed
to
this
project
in
its
entirety-
and
I
have
been
in
engaged
in
well.
K
The
developer
here
so
the
court
order
reads
in
pertinent
part
as
follows:.
K
K
Which
affects
has
stayed
any
proceedings
involving
the
issues
appeal
from
now.
K
K
Sure
that
we
strictly
comply
with
any
court
order
that
the
approach
that
we
should
take
was
to.
K
K
Planning
board
appeal
after
we
made
that
decision,
it
was
conveyed
to
the
developer.
We
received.
K
Matter
questioning
our
interpretation
and
asking
us
to
reverse
it
tournament:
court.
K
And
and
we
suggested
a
solution,
the
solution
which
was
originally
a
product
of
mr
cracknell.
K
Was
that
if,
if
the
developer
would
request
a
month's
continuance
of
this
hearing,.
K
The
htc
or
not,
we
will
try
to
do
that
in
time
to
maintain
the
hearing
schedule
for
next
month.
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
See
what
the
applicant
says.
Thank
you
very
much
attorney,
so
I
assume
that
we
must
have.
D
Is
there
anything
yeah,
so
I
think
what's
happening
is
you
know
he's
asking
for
us
to.
B
Without
prejudice,
thank
you
very
much
obama.
Would
somebody
make
this
motion
for
one
month.
D
D
D
D
D
D
So
no
change
of
heart,
so
the
the
unfortunate
yeah
so
attorney
sullivan
is
recommending.
K
D
H
Discussion
we
would
like
to
continue
our
discussion
with
you
and
our
we
have
applied
for
a.
H
H
H
H
H
B
E
A
The
reason
that
I
would
consider
going
with
mr
sullivan's
recommendation.
A
Putting
the
work
that
we've
done
so
far
on
the
shelf,
not
forgetting
about
it,
not
putting.
A
It
you
know
to
bed,
and-
and
we
come
back
when
we
know
that
the
chances
of
there
being.
A
B
H
I
don't
know
that
there's
anything
that
says
that
can't
sit
there
for
two
months.
If
bob's.
D
D
D
H
And
and
you
why
spend
money
you
know
you
know,
that's
just
my
opinion.
I
would
clearly
see.
B
It
happened
before
too
honest
honestly,
it
has
with
not
necessarily
with
the
legal
department.
B
But
with
people
just
coming
back
and
asking
for
a
continuance
and
coming
back
and
asking
for.
B
D
Alive
here
and
and
if
we
don't
ask
for
a
continuance,
but
you
go
in
anyway,
the
attorney.
H
D
D
H
D
The
original
offer
yeah,
if,
if
the
motion
would
have
off
the
request,
should
be
made
and
accepted.
K
By
the
commission
as
as
proposed,
then
I
would
contact
attorney
graham
ramsdale
in
the
morning.
K
And
make
every
effort
to
get
this
issue
resolved
in
a
month,
okay,
perfect
and
just
before
we.
H
I
just
want
to
reiterate
to
the
applicant
that
this
was
all
surprised
to
us
today
as
well.
Oh
yeah.
H
So
it's
not
like
you
know
we're
in
the
same
boat.
We
we're
trying
to
do
the
best
thing
we.
H
Got
to
follow
the
court
of
law
and
we're
doing
the
best
thing
for
all
parties
involved.
B
B
B
B
L
The
project,
as
you
all
know,
is
in
the
the
edge
of
the
old
and
the
new
city.
L
The
site
context
obviously
has
we'll
keep
going
through
it.
I'm
sorry,
sorry
I'll
go
through.
L
It
quickly
it's
in
the
heart
of
where
the
old
city
is
and
the
new
city
and
we're
trying.
L
To
tie
the
two
together
with
the
this
new
project,
obviously
it's
currently
it's
a
parking.
L
L
L
A
wall,
the
site
being
bordered
by
three
streets
and
four
streets
actually
in
a
railroad.
L
Track
have
a
lot
of
circulation
around
it.
We're
gonna
be
we're
proposing,
and
I
we're.
L
Or
the
drive
lanes
along
deer
street
and
adding
a
pedestrian
park
to
the
north
end
of
the
site.
L
The
building
concept
is
really
taking
the
whole
banana-shaped
site,
really
thinking
about.
L
L
Along
deer
street
and
then
along
maplewood,
we
have
another
kind
of
intersecting
piece
where.
L
Top
of
the
parking
where
it
doesn't
have
residential
a
roof
deck
at
the
second
level.
L
Modulated
along
this
process,
we
have
balcony
with
bay
windows.
We
have.
B
Deer,
it's
deer
russell!
I'm
sorry
here
here
and
it
has
it's
more
on
the
bend.
L
That's
the
main
entrance
to
the
building.
It
has
the
it's
on
the
slope
going
up
here
and
down.
L
L
As
well
as
in
the
muse
portion,
this
is
it
at
night,
obviously,
and
then
around
the
around
the
other.
L
Side
of
the
building,
we
have
a
passageway
that
connects
to
the
old
part
of
town
port.
L
Through
through
port
walk
place,
we
got
that
right.
So
these
are
some
some
vignettes
in
regards
to.
L
How
we're
looking
at
the
muse,
where
we're
we're,
having
some
areas
that
are
connected
to
both.
L
The
previous
one,
though,
is
the
one
that
gives
you
two
lift
different
resident
platforms
off.
L
Of
the
retail,
but
the
intent
here
is
really
to
connect
the
city
back
to
this
building.
L
And
on
the
ground
floor
and
office
spaces
above
with
a
terrace
on
the
fourth
floor,
these.
L
Granite
base
limestone
first
floor,
can
lights,
are
you
know,
wall
lights
and
then
brick
and
metal.
L
Like
to
see
them
just
to
give
you
a
taste
of
what
were
the
the
actual
material,
but
that's
the.
B
D
D
Why
don't
you
keep
going,
keep
going
now
we're
on
to
building
two,
which
is
a.
L
The
larger
condo
building
it's
a
u-shaped
building,
as
as
we
identified
in
the
other
space.
D
L
Correct
the
metal
is
for
all
three
buildings,
the
brick
as
we
identified
in
one
of
the
earlier.
L
B
L
L
L
L
B
The
public
realm,
your
two
options,
which
do
you
prefer,
which
one
are
you
presenting.
L
L
Oh,
that
that's
the
stone
yeah
well
depending
upon
what
we're
doing
is
probably
going
to
be.
L
L
L
Inch
and
a
half
or
two
inches,
typically,
it
would
be
it'd,
be
a
rain
screen
system.
So
you'll
have.
N
L
So
this
is
building
two.
This
is
the
main
entry
where
the
lightest
brick
is
and
the
brick
gets.
L
Two
options
on
the
the
way
the
building
is,
the
variance
the
option.
Two
has
a
variance.
D
D
L
L
D
The
the
additional
two
feet
so
four
feet.
Thank
you.
Well,
yeah,
it's
already
two
allowed.
It
would.
A
L
L
In
you
know,
design
development,
so
they
have
the
opportunity
to
be
slightly
different.
L
L
B
This
is
a
different
color
come
on.
Can
I
jump
in
yeah,
so
the
cornices,
who
are
you,
he's
walker.
J
Yeah
apologist
walker
shanklin
with
sga
an
architect
as
well,
so
the
the
lower
cornices.
N
N
L
Yes,
down
up
here,
big
boy
wait
a
minute,
so
it's
a
different
color
on
your
entryway
cornice.
Here.
B
And
the
potential
is
that,
is
it
just
that's
just
a
different
color
or
is
it
a
different.
L
L
L
D
Mind
you
can
have
the
ball
out
of
the
whole
thing
in
the
back
of
the
building
of
building
two.
L
The
parking
garage
on
different
sides:
it
worked
we're
at
a
different
elevation
inside,
so
we
needed.
L
Some
ramp,
as
well
as
how
to
maximize
the
parking
it
still
has
the
screen
depicted
graphic
on
it.
L
In
these
photos-
and
then
you
know,
obviously
the
apartments
are
facing
in
in
the
back
of
this.
L
L
More
solid
base
on
this
just
we're
still
making
sure
that
that
can
happen
solid
face
on
what.
B
B
L
Yeah
yeah
because
it
may
end
up
just
being
part
of
the
screen,
but
in
a
moment
you
know
just
we.
L
One
from
obviously
the
front
entry,
the
in
between
building
three
and
two.
L
Some
of
the
retail
entrances
on
the
lower
right
and
then
up
on
the
second
floor,
roof
garden.
L
And
brick,
or
concrete
and
brick
actually
in
inlay
for
this
corner,
it
is
recessed
because.
L
L
Amphitheater
from
the
corner
of
deer
and
russell
that
will
be
really
nice
and
then
there's.
L
Steps
on
on
the
lower
left
and
it's
actually
upgraded
at
the
upper
upper
right
of
the
plan.
L
L
There's
apartments
for
four
floors
and
a
roof:
little
roof
deck
up
at
the
top
and
brick
metal.
L
And
glass
perforated
metal-
these
are
obviously
the
required.
L
L
And
that's
for
valet
cars
and
then
this
is
the
one
of
the
entrant
entrance
ramps
into.
L
Yeah,
so
this
is
the
the
door,
the
door,
you
mean
the
egress
door,
yeah
that's
around
the
screen.
L
On
the
other
side-
and
then
this
is
another
parking,
this
is
the
exit
from
the
parking.
L
L
L
L
N
N
L
L
L
To
the
city,
building
three
is
the
one
on
the
corner
of
green
and
russell.
That
right
am
I
right.
L
Okay,
yes,
and
that
is
the
perfect
half
ellipse,
hopefully
if
they
can
build
it
right.
L
And
then
it
has,
you
know,
walked
up
the
street
to
the
the
intersection
where
the
muses
or.
L
The
drive
lane
intersection-
this
is
actually
a
nice
little
corner.
It's
kind
of
squares
off
the.
L
As
a
retail
entry
and
ideally
where,
as
you
go
down
towards
that
other
side,
the
idea
we're.
N
Quite
a
bit
more
with
kind
of
a
solid
street
wall
and
in
this
scheme
now
we're
sort
of
easing.
N
B
L
L
N
B
L
Every
floor
in
the
screening
in
the
building,
no,
I
meant
I
meant
dumpsters
or
something
like
that.
L
This
building
is
all
retail,
with
the
exception
of
the
lobby
in
this
one
and.
L
And
then
apartments
railroad
apartments
funny
enough
on
this
building,
because.
L
It's
narrow
again,
you
can
see
the
variation
in
the
brick.
It
goes
from.
L
We
would
like
it
to
be
a
a
green
roof
which
we're
trying
to
have
as
part
of
it.
B
L
Is
I
think,
we've
seen
this
one?
This
is
the
entrances
yep,
as
well
as
the
car,
the
valet.
L
That
passageway
between
building
two
and
three
we
may
have
it
a
little
further
down.
Okay,.
J
Past
green
street
heading
down
the
market
you're
proposing
to
snap
that
stone
out.
L
Yeah
I'm
just
gonna,
I'm
like
it
has
to
come
out
yeah.
It
has
to
come
out
it's
time.
L
There's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
that
on
this
site.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
the
entire
site
is
one
big.
L
N
We
are
dropping
the
slab
as
well
and
that
that
kind
of
front
two
levels.
So,
given
that.
L
Were
doing
in
portsmouth,
but
the
only
way
to
develop
that
site
is
to
remove
it
properly.
L
In
the
appendix,
obviously,
we
have
all
the
the
elevations
as
they
are.
They
match
exactly.
L
What's
in
the
model
because
they're
all
the
same
drawing
so
these
are,
if
you
know
technical.
L
L
To
the
building,
how
some
of
that
metal
channel
is,
as
we
were
talking
about,
goes.
L
It
goes
to
metal,
but
it's
all
kind
of
a
kit
of
parts,
as
I
think
we've
always
talked
about.
L
Trying
to
continue
to
develop
that
as
we
go,
I
thank
you
that
that's
how
we're
showing
it
yeah.
L
Thank
you,
but
I
don't
think
we
need,
I
think,
that's
more
reference
and
material
for
you
guys.
L
Yeah,
it's
okay,
but
that's
the
package
where's
the
detail
for
the
yeah.
A
A
A
Atheneum
and
you
look
at
the
athenaeum
and
every
time
you
see
something
new.
What
struck
me
above.
A
A
A
D
Zoom
in,
but
I
I
think
this
project
is
great,
I
think
you've
done
a
great
job
of.
A
Balancing
the
conflicting
needs
of
old
and
new
yeah,
so
the
curve
building
to
the
right
heavily.
A
Dent
hill,
very,
very
fancy
to
the
left
very,
very
plain:
moving
further
to
left,
there's
something.
L
We
we
want
to
go,
you
know,
they're
they're,
the
limitations,
obviously
you're
going
to
be
in
our.
L
A
So
I
I
like
what
you've
done
so
this
is
it
comments
from
everybody
or
forever
hold
your
peace.
G
Sure
excellent
job
and
I
think
unfortunately,
there's
some
missed
opportunities
to
do
something.
G
Successful,
I
think
it's
trent
that
transparency
in
the
111
maplewood
is
distinguishes
itself.
G
What
you've
done
is
very
successful.
I
I
would
hope
we'd
see
some
mock-ups.
G
More
appropriate
touch
than
such
a
hard
black.
You
know
almost
like
a
vietnam
veteran
memorial.
L
L
H
L
We
want
to
see
it
too,
but
we're
doing
a
big
piece
with
a
bunch
of
punk
post
holes
right.
L
B
Years,
150
years
and
it's
good
that
you're
referencing
that
yeah
I
like
the
one,
the
other.
L
C
L
But
you
know
the
intent
would
be.
Let's
make
sure
that
these
are
the
perfect
images
and
the.
L
G
D
D
G
Good,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Anyone
else
want
to.
Yes,
sir.
I
think
these
buildings
are
very
successful.
H
I
think
you've
done
a
great
job
with
this
space
honoring,
the
railroad
honoring,
the
brick
from.
H
Old
portsmouth,
but
yet
making
it
a
little
bit
different
and
then
making
it
a
nice.
H
Transition
where
it's
not
a
hard
stop,
I
think
this
would
be
a
nice
addition
to
that
part
of
town.
H
Especially
the
the
third
building,
I
think
your
the
board
here
had
a.
L
Lot
to
do
with
making
sure
it
was
porous,
which
is
thank
you
fantastic.
B
J
Non-Starter
just
get
that
over
with
this
is
a
I
imagine,
I'm
imagining
that
this
is
a.
J
All
at
once-
and
I
mean
you've
done
a
marvelous
job
of
building
a
a
very
lovely
building
with
flow.
J
A
sense
of
integrity,
I
still
am
struggling
how
this
fits
into
portsmouth
and-
and
I
I
still
feel.
J
Very,
very
awkward
about
the
the
pillar
and
glazing
structure
of
it.
I
I
just
don't
see
how
it.
B
Yes,
because
I
I'll
follow
up,
because
I
I've
mentioned
before
I
share
mr
adams,.
E
E
E
That
references,
you
know
all
of
our
other
existing
historic
buildings
and
overall,
the
plan.
E
Of
this
project
is
so
much
better
than
anything
that
we
have
seen
before.
Having.
E
Site
and
not
having
this
huge
wall
of
a
building
go
through
this.
This
parcel.
E
Those
reasons
I
am
very
happy
to
support
this
project.
All
of
these
details,
the
screening.
E
That
references,
historic,
portsmouth,
everything
I
think
is
really
well
thought
out.
So
I
thank
you.
E
C
L
And
the
traditional
is
the
challenge
that
we
we've
all
been
confronted
with
and
hopefully.
L
Will
be
happy
with
it
in
the
future
because
you
all
have
to
live
with
it,
but
we're
trying
to.
L
L
L
To
make
your
happiness
of
the
future
of
your
town
well,
thank
you.
I
just
have
a
few
words
also.
B
You've
taken
all
of
our
comments
and
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
I'm
old
enough
to
remember.
B
B
B
B
B
It's
nice
that
your
infill
is
appropriate
and
certainly
no
prudential
building.
I
mean
you've.
B
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
D
One
is
that
I
think
option.
One
is
preferred
for
the
mew
that
that
has
the
or
the
gap
between.
D
D
D
Raised
cornice,
and,
and
rather
than
I'm
hopeful,
you
won't
need
a
variance
and
the.
B
D
Yeah,
what
would
I
miss?
Well,
I
I
think,
given
how
complex
the
the
brick
work
is,
and
this
idea
of
the.
A
A
A
O
L
So
by
having
the
metal
one
piece
and
then
the
brick
is
kind
of
more
reflecting
what.
L
N
N
L
D
L
D
A
A
A
C
I
retract,
can
I
ask
nick,
did
when
you
said
mock-ups
did
you
include
the
screen.
B
M
And
scale
oh
you've
announced
us
already
right.
Yes,
waiting
for.
B
Mr
cocknell
yep
he's
always
late
all
right.
I
will
proceed
then,
carlo
goodnight.
M
Last
time
we
came,
we
talked
about
three.
We
talked
about
a
few
design
updates
that
we
would
like.
M
The
building
that's
there
or
buildings
that
are
there,
so
what
we've
done
is.
M
M
And
then
the
also
there
was
a
comment
made
about
the
scale
of
the
garage
doors.
M
So
we've
downsized
the
garage
doors
from
the
10
by
14
to
a
9x12.
M
Which,
if
you
we've
noticed,
also
on
some
of
our
historic
carriage
house,
photos
on.
M
M
M
M
D
Whatever
the
hip
and
ridge
caps
are
all
copper
yeah
similar
to
what
is
on
the
mansion
and.
B
Okay,
so
that'll
go
over
the
asphalt
shingles,
also
correct
and
yes
leave
it
at
that
right.
Yeah.
C
B
D
C
M
M
We
did
make
some
revisions
to
the
addition
behind
the
connector
by
lowering
the
copper.
M
Gable
window
and
replaced
it
with
a
hey
door
similar
to
the
carriage
house,
detail.
G
Because
you
know
it
was
too
much
yeah,
oh
my
god,
so
they're
fine.
I.
B
What
else
did
did
you
want
to
give
us
anything
else?
You
want
to
talk
about.
M
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
the
I'll
be
very
brief
I'll
be
very
fast.
No,
that's
all
right.
M
The
next
section
3.0
is
the
same
as
it
was
last
time.
It's
just
a
map
for
what
is
to
be
removed.
M
M
Then
five
series
is
a
key
that
we've
created
for
the
details
that
we
will
be
carrying.
M
Across
from
the
original
annex
or
the
original
carriage
house,
so
we've
started
this
key.
I
just.
M
M
M
Them
a
little
bit
more
to
be
a
little
more
like
the
traditional
proportions
of
the.
M
On
the
original
carriage
house
and
the
original
mansion,
so
we
carried
that
stone.
M
Veneer
around
the
additions
in
the
back-
and
you
know
across
a
lot
of
the
foundation
area.
M
M
To
the
new
edition
on
the
back
and
on
the
name:
okay,
yes,
we're
going
to
be
using.
M
J
They
regulated
the
dome
and
we
we
were
involved
in
some
midnight
supply
of
oil
and
lead
paints.
J
For
the
to
mix
it
up
yeah,
because
no
one
wants
to
go
back
up
there
in
five
years
and
repaint,
it.
C
M
M
M
Were
was
approved
on
the
last
submission
and
is
just
moving
forward
as
materials
on
this
one.
M
Of
the
existing
conditions
and
so
forth,
so
that
is
where,
where
we
are
with
this.
A
The
fine
features
of
the
mansion,
which
has
you
know
incredibly
detailed
and
delicate
moldings,.
A
The
back
it's
just
like
trying
to
marry
this.
You
know
one
style
of
very
large
but
but
delicate.
A
A
Original
structure
margo,
could
I
ask
you,
did
you
go
on
the
sidewalk?
Did
you
go
on
the
back.
E
This
just
is,
I
think,
that's
a
good
suggestion,
because
I
mean
there.
M
J
J
Or
this
georgian
okay,
that
was
something
a
little
more
sort
of
stone,
barn
type
of
thing.
B
Our
site
walk.
You
were
so
happy
with
the
amount
of
repairs
going
into
the
main
building
that
you.
B
B
B
J
J
B
Anyone
else
I'd
like
to
speak
to
it.
I
I
think
that
you're
doing
such
a
fantastic
job.
G
G
Setting
you
know,
I
I
I
think
that
you
have.
You
have
license
to
do
some
of
these
things
in
the.
G
G
G
Grant
you,
yes,
that's
probably
not
appropriate,
but
some
of
the
elements
and
windows
and
and.
G
G
G
Big
sweeping
parts
of
the
atheneum
I
mean,
if
you
propose
that
today,
people
laugh
at
you
but.
B
And
I
agree
with
martin
on
this
100.
B
B
B
Sure
that
they're
going
to
have
privacy,
fences
and
security
systems
and
all
this
sort
of
stuff.
B
So
I'm
just,
I
can't
believe
that
we're
having
the
discussions-
and
I
can't
believe.
B
Actually,
I
can't
believe
how
far
off
you've
gone
david
on
this
project.
Let's
keep
it
to
the.
J
Paper,
sir
yeah,
so
I'm
you
know
I'm
looking
at
these
changes
that
you
made
and
that
that
they're.
C
C
M
M
C
M
Ideas
last
time
you
all
made
some
suggestions
and
we
explored
them
and
we
have
a
series
of.
M
M
The
openings
and
opening
just
better
scale
and
more
sunlight
on
the
interior
and
I'll
just.
B
That's
just
me:
okay,
if
I
can
offer
a
comment
there
as
well.
This
you're,
you
guys,
are
dealing
with.
M
So
the
next
item
is
that
we
explore
the
open
arch,
truss
design
over
the
recessed
balconies.
M
M
This
corner
right
here
at
over
the
entrance
and
opted
for
a
transparent
look.
Maybe
some
metal
work.
M
Up
there,
radially,
which
I
think
is
a
nice,
offers
a
nice
play
on
this
entire
corner
element.
M
M
M
It's
a
you'll,
see
it
in
two
more
slides,
okay,
right,
we're
not
gonna
call
it
a
tower
nick
we're.
F
Calling
it
a
it's
in
a
blog,
it's
an
impertinence.
At
this
point,
so
moving
on
to
1.5,
we
added.
M
That
even
a
little
bit
more
more
robust
and
then
this
final
addition
was
to
really
give
these.
B
Somebody
is
somebody
ready
to
jump
in.
Mr
chairman,
I
think
the
banding
on
the
pedestal.
J
J
To
glade
in
the
glazing
below
that
it's
exciting,
I
really
didn't
think
much
of
you
changing
the.
J
Other
the
secondary
windows
of
the
building-
I
guess
one
might
say
I
think,
they're
a
little.
J
Bit
competing
a
bit
too
much,
but
otherwise
I
think
this
is
out
of
the
park
good.
Thank
you.
B
It
seems
one
1.6
seems
to
be
have
everything
that
you're
talking
about
right.
1.6
is
kind.
M
Of
where
we
landed
with
the,
how
does
everyone
else
feel?
What's
going
on
I'm
a
little
bit.
E
Sort
of
decoration
just
kept
getting
thrown
onto
this,
so
I,
in
my
opinion,.
E
E
On
the
other
hand,
too
much
can
be
too
much,
so
I
feel
like
a
lot
of
this
just.
E
Sort
of
applied
decoration
is
way
too
busy.
You've
got
all
these
sort
of
crosses,
and
these.
E
Is
I
don't
know
where
I've
ever
seen
anything
quite
like
that
before
so
in
some
of
these.
E
And
I
don't
know
you
might
want
to
tone
it
down
just
a
little
bit.
I
think
sometimes.
B
So,
are
you
saying
that
you
prefer
starting
off
at
the
beginning,
1-0,
where
we
left
off
last.
E
Probably
step
ahead
a
few
paces
but
yeah
it
maybe
kind
of
just
went
a
little
too
far.
B
Anyone
else
sure,
so
I
had
the
same
thought
when
I
first
looked
at
it
that
maybe
there
was.
O
I
actually
liked
it
and-
and
I
think
I
think.
A
Simplifications,
the
white
banding
at
the
top,
I
don't
think-
is
adding
anything
to
the
building.
A
It's
allowing
your
pertinence
to
to
really.
It
looks
like
a
big
bump
now,
where,
before
it.
A
Up
there
and
if,
if
those
changes
were
made
to
1.6,
I
could
I
could
go
for
it.
I
think
the.
A
M
M
Being
the
duplicative
you
know,
also
being
you
know,
getting
rid
of
this
being
supported
by
a.
G
G
That's
a
positive
thing
for
a
building
like
that.
I'm
still
these
these
trusses
still
bother
me.
G
On
a
small
head
or
something
it
just
seems
like
a
just,
did
you
prefer
the.
B
G
And
they're
not
right
and
well,
it's
definitely
a
risk
and
I
think
it's
a
risk
worth
taking.
G
E
Screen
it
so
things
don't
get
in
there,
just
thinking
the
practicality
of
it.
That's
a
good.
O
C
H
So
rich
yeah,
I
I'm
torn
on
a
couple
of
these
elements.
H
H
Like
when
kushner
ryan
said,
he'd
seen
people
up
there,
some
kind
of
torn.
H
H
H
H
From
from
its
neighbors,
I
think
when
it's
executed
in
brick,
don't
they
call
it
a
flat
arch.
M
M
H
You
know
bow
on
each
window,
so
I
wouldn't
want
it
to
look
like
that.
Huge
jacket.
J
Over
a
window
but
was
creating
a
statement
over
a
large
opening
and-
and
I
thought
that
was
being.
B
I
agree
with
david
quite
actually
shocked
to
hear
ryan
who's.
Martin
martin.
G
B
C
C
Started
that
way,
because
it
was
a
railroad
right
terminal
right,
that's
what
we.
C
All
that
banding,
what
that
does
for
me
or
not,
but
I
I
would
favor
the
metal,
jack
arches.
M
M
Like
so
that's
visible
on
2.0
from
the
aerial,
is
it
actually
lifting
up
the
ceiling
in
that
unit.
P
M
That
looks
so
smart
and
then
the
elevations
for
record.
So
you
can
see
everything.
M
On
the
balconies,
we
would
be
using
these
large-scale
windows
that
tom
mentioned
earlier.
M
M
Departure
from
incorporating
those
traditional
elements
and
then
4.1
we're
introducing
our.
M
B
B
B
M
Had-
and
it
especially
has
you
know,
one
on
each
side
of
the
long
street
building.
M
B
There
all
righty,
so
everybody
has
got
their
opinions
out
all
right.
Mr
chairman,
am
I
allowed.
G
Q
C
M
D
Can
pass
it
around
yeah
and
the
whole
point
of
warf
typability?
Is
you
you
load
from
the
rail
side.
C
P
B
F
F
Make
you
up
a
cow
catcher
for
that,
but
that's
what
I
thought
about
for
that.
I
didn't
expect
that.
B
From
you
I
know
I'm
just
very
creative.
You
just
don't
know
that
about
me
because
that's
the
the.
F
Up
that
close
in
regards
to
all
the
x's
and
stuff,
like
that,
I
agree,
they're
very
busy,
but.
F
F
Look
like
a
railroad
track,
just
saying
you
know
I'm
going
wild
here
and
the
front
that.
F
The
archway
or
whatever
I
would
want
it
to
be
either
thinner
and
lighter,
like
the
one.
F
Material
and
it
had
a
thin
kind
of
front
to
it,
and
it
had
a
little
bit
of
laciness
in
it.
F
F
Where
is
that
going?
That
would
be
on
the
ins
insets
of
the
balconies,
wherever
there
isn't
a.
F
F
F
A
dark
line,
as
opposed
to
the
white
line
on
the
top
trying
to
think
what
else
I
have
on
my
list.
F
F
For
the
one
we're
not
seeing
today,
131
reigns.
Have
I
put
some
samples
of
doors.
F
F
B
B
B
B
B
C
Which
one
are
you
reading
seven
324.,
I'm
going
to
tell
you
why
when
he's
done,
okay.
B
C
Q
You
and
similar
circumstance
for
steve
singler,
but
this
is
the
property,
so
this
is
39
homes,
court.
Q
This
is
associated
with
the
redevelopment
of
43
homes
court.
This
is
the
adjoining
property.
Q
Driving
through
the
middle
of
39
so
and
steve,
singler
and
kate
have
bought
the
two
properties.
Q
Q
Is
not
that
far
off
what
it
currently
is,
with
the
only
real
substantive
edition
being
a.
Q
And
this
is
just
a
preliminary
just
to
to
get
your
feedback
from
it
and
yes,
there
we
go.
Q
Seven
inch
reveal,
but
we
would
return
that
to
a
maybeck
white
city.
Shingle,
with
a
five
inch
reveal.
Q
Q
Q
Find
a
spot
for
an
air
source
heat
pump
and
otherwise
it'll
be
a
full
restoration.
New
windows.
Q
We
again,
we
use
the
green
mountain
windows
to
match.
What's
here
now,.
Q
And
yes,
essentially,
a
restoration
of
just
a
handsome.
H
Q
Pretty
blank,
but
it's
also
the
wall,
that's
facing
the
water,
so
that
was
the
intention.
There.
Q
I
just
had
them,
I
said
I
had
them.
Just
sort
of
you
know,
marked
in
with
black
pen
on
the.
E
J
End
dormer,
I
appreciate
the
restraint
by
not
running
it
all
the
way
to
the
edges
of
the
roof.
J
J
Q
For
these
houses
from
the
turn
of
the
century
papers,
it's
it's
just
straight
out
of.
Q
As
advertised
with
the
the
shingles
and
the
panels
and
everything
about
it,
so
I'm.
E
Sorry
brandon
did
you
say
that
have
you
done
any
exploratory
work
to
see
what
is
underneath.
Q
Likely
that
it
was
the
case
and
also
the
fact
that
they
put
the
you
know,
even
though
it's.
Q
A
I
mean,
I
think
this
the
plan
is
fine.
I
think,
as
david
said,
this
has
been
done
a
zillion
times.
A
A
Of
windows-
that's
that's
bothering
me,
I'm
not
sure
what
it
is,
and
I
think
you
know
if
it
were.
A
Not
a
1-1-1
pattern,
maybe
that
would
help,
but
I
I
you're
thinking
of
moving
the
center
windows.
J
Maybe
a
little
less
really
chasing
that
the
the
exterior
symmetry
and
the.
Q
Happily,
an
odd
number,
which
was
good
so
yeah.
If
you
go
to
that,
go
to
five.
Q
The
the
to
be
a
replication
in
size,
space
and
location
of
the
existing
chimney.
Q
Given
this
is
another
one
that
will
have
to
go
back
into
the
system
to
get
processed
through.
Q
B
The
dormer
is
very
well
designed
and
I
have
no
problem
with
the
window
placement.
B
Q
Back
so
okay,
is
there
anyone
else,
or
should
I
call
for
the
public
to
see
if
anybody
a
book.
B
All
right
so
he'll
come
back
when
he's
done
with
the
way
by
the
sounds
of
it
right
brendan.
Q
You
know
talk
about,
have
stipulations
about
the
the
siding
as
well.
If
we,
you
know,
we
should.
Q
Around
the
bottom,
not
on
the
gable
end,
but
then
we
can
still
have
a
stipulation
that
that
is.
Q
Sounds
good,
it's
just
continued
indefinitely,
or
no!
No,
no
he's
coming
back
for
a
public.
D
Q
I
The
map
and
the
zoning
summary
and
just
a
general
project
description.
We
are.
I
The
goal
of
this
project
is
to
build
the
one
story
addition
to
an
existing
two-story
structure.
I
I
Which
shows
the
general
size
of
the
new
edition
there'll
be
new
storefront
going
in
the.
I
Mostly
would
close
up,
but
there
would
be
an
access
through
one
of
them
into
the
interior
space.
I
I
Right
now,
it's
just
existing
hardscaped
area.
Are
you
talking
about
on
concrete
street.
I
B
I
I
I
The
middle,
the
middle
storefront,
will
most
likely
remain
the
first
storefront
towards
the
top
of.
I
B
B
P
I
I
So
the
store
front
to
the
right,
the
one
with
the
door
and
the
two
big
pieces
of
glass.
That's.
A
I
I
I
I
The
corner
and
create
a
little
bit
of
interest,
that
is
a
very
prominent
intersection
and.
I
I
E
And
I
think
bringing
bringing
this
that
sort
of
curve.
It
looks
like
around
the
front
of.
E
I'm
interested
to
see
where
you
go
with
this.
I
don't
think
the
loss
of
that
tiny
little
overgrown.
E
Don't
think
anybody's
going
to
miss
that
the
ground
cedars
dogs?
Might
they
don't
like
those.
I
I
B
P
D
Either
recess
the
door
or
actually
the
license
to
have
it
yeah
yeah,
I
just
looking
at
it
from.
I
I
I
Opportunities
on
the
back
on
the
warts
lot
side
that
help
bring
the
bring
the
two
pieces
together.
G
You're
applying
this
to
I
I
just
they
look
like
double-hung
windows
and
to
me
they
are
there
yeah.
G
P
J
P
G
G
G
To
a
really
tough
ugly
building
yeah,
it's
not
a
blight,
though
rich.
Did
you
make
a
movement?
I
have.
H
Not
yet
thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
will
also
commend
you
on
working
with
the
space
you've
been
given.
H
To
celebrate
this,
you
know
architecture,
we're
not
going
to
pretend
like
you
know,
we're
not
going.
H
To
build
more
of
it,
or
we
wouldn't
want
to,
I
will
say
the
windows
could
use
some
work.
I
mean.
H
H
Very
prominent
corner,
you
know
you're
ending
congress
street,
so
much
traffic
on
maplewood.
I
Of
columns,
we're
anticipating
them,
just
simple,
just
simple.
A
A
B
So
I
just
want
to
I
mean
I'm
going
to
just
throw
it,
throw
this
right
out
there.
B
For
a
liquor
store
or
for
you
know,
a
small
straight
up
or
something
like
that.
B
B
You
know
it's
a
nice
little
thing
a
little
shop
or
you
know,
but
what
you've
done
here
I.
B
J
J
J
J
B
You
know
the
changes,
but
would
could
that
what
you're
talking
about
could
it
be
openable?
I
mean.
J
J
P
B
B
E
B
P
P
I
G
B
Is
this
something
maybe
something
very
fine
that
you
think
horizontal
versus
vertical.