City of Portsmouth, New Hampshire Mayor's Blue Ribbon COVID Response Task Force Committee, 29 Nov 2022

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11.29.2022 COVID Response Task Force

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Thank you hi everyone good afternoon, um just uh like to call this meeting to order.

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To remind everyone at the outset, this is a two-hour meeting, so I hopefully we'll have.

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Some good discussion, but I'd like to entertain a motion for approval to minutes of 11 15 22 22.

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I need a second, oh second, okay, kathy seconded uh all those in favor of minutes for 11 15, 22.

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Please say: aye aye, any nays, any abstentions. Thank you very much.

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um Before we get into the discussion of the critical areas, uh I'd like to have.

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um She was not on the agenda, but I like to have kim mcnamara.

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From the city health department give us an update on where you are with your study.

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Community being done by chi, we did lose a few days to illnesses. Everybody seems to.

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Be experiencing this fall, but we expect that it will be in before the end of december and.

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That's the first piece of the community health profile and the needs assessment.

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um We are going to be focusing on one of the main stated goals for arpa funds, for the needs.

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Assessment portion, which is next and we've begun planning and instituting that and one.

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Of the four main purposes of arpa is to address systemic public health and economic challenges.

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That have contributed to the unequal impact of the pandemic on certain populations. That's what we're.

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Going to be focusing on with the needs assessment, we have learned an awful lot so far, even though it.

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Hard data, a report report back we've spoken to a lot of families affected by covet people very.

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Disproportionately affected, you know: families with young children, family with families with.

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Parents with dementia families, with persons with intellectual and developmental disabilities, that.

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Not only lost their care for their for their folks, which is often 24, 7 care and supervision, but it.

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Impedes their ability to to work and to function and they're, just exhausted, and so for them. This is.

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The third year of covid, because those systems haven't recovered yet so in the final reports.

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Hopefully, we'll be able to get some real, clear reporting done on that. The next slide please.

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And I just wanted to sorry, I would go um just wanted to remind everybody that the health of.

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um The definition of health includes physical, mental and social well-being. A lot of the local.

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uh Community health profiles that have been done recently really focus on health care. We.

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Are really focusing on these other aspects and what can a municipality do to intervene with.

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Arpa fundings and with many other sources of recommendations, so next slide. Please.

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Oh, the community health needs assessment, we'll be looking at these vulnerable populations and.

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We've already added one to this that I saw in your notes that we came up with as.

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Well, but these are populations, we've already identified that live in portsmouth and we're.

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Hoping to learn more specifics about these populations in the community health profile.

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If other vulnerable populations are picked up through that plan or local discussions, we'll.

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Add them to the list and we have added food insecure as another group next slide. Please.

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So, oh, I had updated this with a big bullet point: it's not on there. I'm sorry! But solutions come in.

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Many forms not just money, although I would like to repeat my strong recommendation and I hope you.

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Include this in your report to city council that we hold on spending of any of the remain remaining.

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Arpa funds, until the full evaluation of the public health needs of this community have been heard.

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um Also, some interventions don't cost money at all or cost very little money, and there are. There are.

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Various ways that we can intervene, we need more data and we need more understanding. The situation.

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To know specifically how to apply these, but it's not just funding. We also have things.

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Like infrastructure, one of the things that I had discussed with the recreation director a while ago.

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Is that we, during some pretty severe heat waves, we had, we opened the pool longer, but some kids.

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Couldn't get to the pool some kids didn't? Have any parents at home to take them? Transportation was a.

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Problem for others, a lot of the things that you already talk about, but infrastructure can be one.

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Of those things, if we could put some neighborhood splash pads in and I think we discussed that.

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Earlier legislation there is no guarantee of services for persons with intellectual and.

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Developmental disabilities, it's not an entitlement such as when you become a senior you're entitled.

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To certain insurance and social security, if you've paid in all your life, but those entitlements, don't.

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Exist in new hampshire for some of our most vulnerable populations and the city of portsmouth.

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Does have a very active legislative subcommittee, and so maybe one of the recommendations is an.

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Outcome of this is that we try to get state law that says people are entitled to services.

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If they fit into the category of individuals with intellectual or developmental disabilities, we also.

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Have heard stories of people 80 years old at our local homeless, shelters persons with dementia and.

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Portsmouth housing authority: these are people that should be entitled to services and those.

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Those facilities are not necessarily built to support people like that. It's it's really kind of.

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A unfair situation for all around and so there's sometimes legislative solutions, investment of.

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Course you know funding certain programs funding certain uh things that we feel will be good. One of.

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The things that we're also aware of is, we do have minority 30 populations in portsmouth. There is, I.

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Don't know if it's true of portsmouth waiting for the data, but there is also knowledge that.

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Minorities have more issues with pool safety and there's more drownings in some of those.

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Communities well, if the issue is swim, lessons in action and access to swim lessons, maybe our city.

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Recreation department can do free swim lessons for certain populations, so those are the types.

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Of interventions that we also hope to see, and then of course the city does a master plan, it would be.

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Great that, whatever we learn throughout this process and what this group is bringing to the.

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Table as well, if it can, if there are components that can make their way into the master plan,.

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Let's get that on the books um and start building the city to be more supportive of these groups.

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uh The public health improvement plan, which I hope is an outcome of this process,.

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um Most of those components probably will have some relationship to a master plan.

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Education is also very important outcome of this. I hope I hope that what we put together as a report.

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And try to update over time will become the standard of how city council learns about who.

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Their populations are that live in portsmouth and who they're you know who they're responsible to.

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As well as city staff, we all have very different experiences because we all do very different jobs.

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And some of us are aware of the diversity of portsmouth and some people don't know that.

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And then, of course, programs, training and staffing. One of the things that comes to mind is that, with.

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The difficulties that a lot of uh families with persons who need 24 hours seven day a week care.

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um They need a break, and so, instead of just offering a yoga program to for seniors to.

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Come maybe we offer yoga programs with support staff so that families can get that one hour.

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Break to go to the doctor's appointment or good to go, these are decisions that are not mine, but.

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They're the types of recommendations that I I do wonder if it won't be an outcome of this process.

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uh And next slide, please.

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So the focus groups will be based on vulnerable population uh populations that we've identified in.

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Our first uh focus group is going to be on seniors. uh It will be january 4th at two o'clock. um It's.

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A listening session for 90 minutes and we have maria solari from good works. Who will be the the.

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Running this program and of course, tori jennison is very active in this whole process with us.

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uh The timeline that we hope to complete all of these individual focus groups is in april.

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Sometime and by the end of april, we hope to have a final written report about what we have learned.

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Through this process- and that is my update- I'll need to change the 2023- oh yes, I do. Thank you.

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Kimadi's, my last name mc capital, n, a m-a-r-a-r-a okay. Thank you. Can I ask.

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One question about you indicated: you had a strong recommendation that you're hoping that we hear and.

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um Pass on to the council, and that is to wait until this study is completed before a decision.

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About the entirety of the arpa funds, or just if you could go into that a little bit so because.

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um You know the process of looking at the community really getting data-driven evidence.

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And getting input from all the people that are affected, it takes a very long time. I had asked.

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That three million dollars would be set aside so that, when we're through that process, um we.

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Can come up with a community health improvement plan and we'll have still a quarter of the funding.

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Left since at least a quarter of it was meant to correct these public health issues, it just.

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Seemed fair to me, and so that's how I set that up. However, outside of that three million dollars.

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um Over the course of last year, we've become aware of requests of almost another three million.

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Dollars from just local non-profits- and that was just a sort of survey of a few- it doesn't include.

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All the local non-profits of almost 3 million additional dollars that they needed to sort of do.

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Their covert recovery and so we're looking at six million dollars of potential need in portsmouth.

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You know those needs should be reassessed because we're now several months out from those requests.

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And we don't know what the outcome of the community health improvement plan is going to.

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Be it's very easy to spend three million dollars in public health because we never get funding so.

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I'm just uh requesting we've already spent half the money, let's not spend any more until we're.

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Through this process, I don't know how reasonable it is, but I'm you know public health hat. Let's.

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Go for public health. This is probably a rare opportunity and the point I really want to make.

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Is that we saw what kova did to these families in our vulnerable populations? We're going to have.

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Another disaster, and are we really planning to make this an easier process for those individuals.

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Which makes us a more resilient community in the end and that's really what the purpose of.

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These funds are in entirety, is to make us a more resilient community and to help us to recover.

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uh Point of clarification, so the three million dollars that you have requested.

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As a set aside, that is a request of the funds that this committee is is having discussing or.

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Is that, if part of a prior ask of the other city funds that have been set aside? No, that.

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It's been something I've requested for probably a year now, but there's nothing approved yet and.

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So it would be one of the things that if you support it, I would hope the city council would.

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You know hear that recommendation and you know they seem pretty supportive of public health, so.

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But anything that's been spent has had nothing to do with public health. My health department, except.

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For the 65 000 for this study, but again just to be clear. So it's your ask of us to set aside.

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Or make a recommendation for a set aside of the 5.4 million? That would be my recommendation. Yeah.

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um Again, just because I'm pro public health- and we only have that much left, but the three million I'm.

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Asking for wouldn't even be used until we have a public health improvement, abby yeah! Oh I'm, sorry.

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To ask what would you spend the money on if you had the three millions, because you know we didn't.

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Want to duplicate your efforts, you know, but you don't know yet until you've got your survey done.

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Is that right right? uh So I don't know because I'd be speaking from what I've learned so far.

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And not what the public input is, and I think that public input is real important. But we have what.

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Looks to me like some sort of a workforce crisis on our hands when it comes to anybody caring for.

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Children for elderly for persons with disabilities, uh and I see that responsibility falling onto some.

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Existing resources that really were not designed to take care of that, so one of the things would be.

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How do we the question? How do we address that we have persons that uh persons with develop mental.

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Disabilities, that they're in a housing crisis they're in a staffing crisis, they've lost three.

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Years of learning, which is going to probably take many more years to rebuild those skills.

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That group should be focused on because, in my opinion, they're the most vulnerable population. We.

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Have because they're vulnerable for their entire lives? They're, not children, that grow up they're.

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Not people that lived a life independently and not all of all of those people, and then you know.

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Went into nursing care, their entire life has to be structured, so I have like big ideas.

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But sometimes it's supporting a program if I may use yours as an example, so one of the one of the.

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You know I'm a real champion of your program lori, because not only do you provide housing.

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For people with developmental disabilities, you provide the support all in one and that's what.

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We need to solve that problem of you know. Just the constant crisis everybody's in you did a.

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Tremendous amount of fundraising on your own, uh the last we spoke- and this was many huge.

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Gap filler, so thank you for letting me use that and I would spend money on things like that.

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Yeah, I'm I'm sorry. I've had it's a little late, but you're.

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You're from I have two questions: what what what overall community.

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um You know community health needs, so it's just overall portsmouth health. Yes, this is the city.

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Of portsmouth we're focusing on okay, however, when the reports come out, we can't always get data that.

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Granular, so we might be paired with portsmouth newington for some data. Some statistics you.

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Know or if it's a rockingham county is the is the least they break some things down by we'll.

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Be getting rockingham county data instead of just portsmouth specific, so the title of the.

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Organization you're, with is city of portsmouth health department, health department. Okay, that's.

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What I thought- and I the other question- was you're having a focus group january 4th. Are there any.

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Other focus groups listed for you know in the next couple months, because many people, I've spoken with.

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um That I've known for years said those are good. Things to do is to bring people together to have.

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Different discussion groups on different topics of health and wellness. Well, these.

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Are not scheduled yet, but the other groups that we have planning going on for our youth.

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Lgbtq, physical and intellectual developmental disabilities, minority housing, insecure, low-income.

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Seniors we've got that one scheduled um persons who speak english as a second language, uh people.

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With behavioral health needs such as substance use, disorder, mental health and refugees, immigrants and.

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Persons who are food insecure, so those are what we're focusing on so far and as we learn more.

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About this process, we might add more groups, we might be combining some of these. It really.

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Depends on who we find to host these sessions and what and who the people are they serve, but we want.

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To reach everybody, and so if there are persons experiencing homelessness that aren't connected.

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To any programs and they're, you know living in portsmouth, we'd like to find a way to reach out.

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To them, so they can come too and tell us what are the barriers for you getting you know into systems.

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That will be helpful for you and enjoying quality of life. Thank you kathy. Do you have a question.

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um So, sort of not really um I'm still getting a little confused by the process, because there's.

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That one chunk of money, which is the five point, whatever million dollars.

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And we're not the only group, that's making recommendations and putting in requests so.

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My understanding is that there are decisions being made on a rolling basis, so I mean I.

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Think we could bring forth the fact that you are strongly recommending this, but.

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I don't know how that's gonna play out in terms of what we're trying to figure out we're recommending.

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As right, it is a confusing process, um and some of these other groups that are asking for funds.

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Might be providing public health services or things that would help an example, is early on.

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In this process, when opera first became available, I had a conversation with russ grazier about you.

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Know, kids have lost three years of learning and there are some kids that never really get the same.

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Opportunities to learn a musical instrument or take art class, and so he had developed a program.

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Of summer camp for kids, where the kids didn't have to pay anything, they could come and they could.

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Learn various arts uh and music activities, but the funding for that, I believe, went through the school.

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System with esser, so they're already taken care of, but there might be numerous groups that have great.

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Ideas like that that will serve the same purposes that we're trying to achieve. We just gotta.

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um It took quite a while to get approval for this public health profile to go through and.

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So by that time you know it takes a certain amount of time and so there's nothing. I can do.

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About how fast we can get it done. So that's why I'm saying please have something left.

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Over so that we have something to work with, because the intention of this is for public.

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Health improvement, if, if I'm understanding this correctly, what you bring to the table.

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Is in many ways over overlaps with discussions that we we're having absolutely so, you know we're.

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Talking about a potentially supporting or funding some of the same organizations that that deal.

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With homelessness or mental health or children being left behind, um et cetera, etc. So.

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I the the one thing I do like about your recommendation. Is that one you know it's.

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It's the department of public health for the city of portsmouth, who is doing this study.

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Looking at this longer term and from a hopefully from a sustainability perspective, resiliency.

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Perspective, which is to me, makes a lot of sense. So if we make a recommendation to the city council.

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About how these monies should be expended or allocated, then it almost makes sense to me.

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And it aligns very well that the department of health for the city of portsmouth is thinking.

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About this, and acting in a way that supports, hopefully supports what the recommendations that.

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We'll be making so from a lot of, at least from my perspective. It seems to make sense and because.

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These funds, I mean, if, uh if they get, if they're set aside managed by the department of health.

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um That's a plan, as far as you know, I mean it it, it's almost a a package that we can make a.

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Recommendation to this city council in, in which case um we would ask for the three million to be.

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Set aside for the ending for the completion of the public health improvement plan, and will you.

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Have made the the observation that so many things overlap and it's true. We are seeing transportation.

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Overlap we're seeing housing we're seeing workforce and not being able to get wages where.

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They need to be for people to live here. So much of this much of the of what you're working on very.

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Much impacts, you know what we're learning about as far as public health problems in portsmouth, so.

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um So, even if they, if not all the money set aside, if we could beg for 3 million to be you.

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Know held until the ending of that community health improvement plan. We would be delighted.

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It almost seems like if we make some, you know, do our presentation. These are our ideas as people in.

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The community and then saying, and then we're going to have this big piece of data to support it. It's.

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Almost like you're providing the data that really supports it, I mean. Obviously, we have information.

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From all the people we've met with, but this would be one more piece to say like because these are a.

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Lot of things we're saying already but you're now talking to people and having forums and.

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Saying see, I told you so you know, and it kind of justifies the money even more. I think like.

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The being spent towards public health yeah- and I I don't it- I hope I don't come across. As I told you.

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So we know, but I think it's data to support like what we're trying to say right, yeah, um but we're.

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We're pleased with the public health support that we're getting, and we please that so many people.

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Are understanding the impact of covid on some of our most vulnerable populations and and that it's.

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Not getting better, you know, and so that's really my goal because that's my position any other.

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Questions for kim one more question: go ahead, lauren, and this is kind of a process question.

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Because I fully support all the work that you're doing and I think having that data um in april.

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Will be really helpful to the city going forward beyond when this money is no longer available and.

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You're looking at other ways to support public health, the there's a short list of non-profit.

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Organizations that had submitted a request to you, some with numbers attached to it, some without.

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Where does that stand, what what have they been left with, as an understanding of so I gather.

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That information to give to my administration so they're aware of the needs in the community.

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um And then I turned that over to this group when you this group started forming, so I have nothing.

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I I never had any say in whether or not that money was spent, but I thought it was really important to.

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For the city administration to understand these are the types of needs that we are seeing in.

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The community and so there's nothing further that I'm doing with it and a couple of those.

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Situations have changed, you know there was money requested there to for continuation of a network.

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Of case managers, they never got funding, and so they had to sort of do other things.

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um So that's too outdated to rely on, but I'm willing to bet the same situation still apply.

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You know you have daycare centers that can't pay staff enough to fully open up, and then you have.

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Families that can't go to work because of that and in getting back on our feet from covet, it.

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Was shocking to me to go through um facilities that play a vital public health role for kids.

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At risk or day care, centers and their buildings are half or more empty because they can't get it.

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To the certain census, because they don't have the workforce, and so those are things that we you know.

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Some of those types of requests were included. I don't know that those have been effectively.

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Addressed whether it's on a state level or a local level, or did you reach out to these organizations.

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I'm just curious how, because there's so many more obviously there are here I reached out to.

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Them because there are organizations that we work with pretty routinely, and I wanted to get a sense.

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Of what they were experiencing and I wanted to get those types of requests before people who.

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Were decision makers so that they wouldn't be forgotten in the decision-making process.

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Because there is so much competition and it's a you know it's a huge task for the council.

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To decide what how to spend these funds, I just wanted to make sure that that the people that.

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We know that provide public health services weren't forgotten in that process. So that's.

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How it all started it? You know, we didn't even have all of the rules and regulations related to arpa.

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In hand before we started gathering that information again, it was just an attempt to.

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Make sure that people who need to know know that these organizations exist and they're hurting.

H

So I think that that's important to clarify, because to me that's been a really confusing piece.

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Of this process, um because I I think on some level, it felt like people were actually applying for.

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Funds and waiting to hear if they were going to get some of those funds to do some of the steps. So.

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If I understood correctly what you just said, we're now at a point where those are just.

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Examples of some of the impact that we should be considering in our recommendations, but that.

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Those organizations know that there's not a continued process for those requests right.

H

Well, I haven't, I haven't been back in contact with those organizations, I gathered the information and.

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I sent it to the city manager and I don't know you know the inner workings of that department. I don't.

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Know what happened to them at that point in time, I'm not aware that it's been that those funds have.

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Been granted, but I know that they were very much involved in setting up of this. This discussion.

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This task force in this group is because we knew that need was out there, so I don't believe they've.

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Been acted on, but it's not in my hands any longer and I'm sorry I don't have a clear answer. I know.

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As the person who applied that I haven't heard anything so thanks, we've got the same problem.

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S, okay, well and as a person who didn't know about applying yeah. But but my understanding came on on.

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This again, too, to kathy's point about process was that this? This really was your attempt at.

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Gathering information in a sense because it was not an official application process, I mean, as.

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You said at that point, the our policies and and instructions were not even out yet right for this.

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Sort of thing that's right, so it sat on the top of it. The purpose of this is to inform the city.

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Manager and possibly others, which I assume meant city council, but so I was gathering I reached.

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Out to organizations that we know pretty well and rely on pretty heavily for public health services.

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um And then it got to a point where it seemed like the whole process was going to be bigger, and so we.

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Stopped and waited for instruction, and it might be that what comes out of here is some sort of.

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Recommendation for a process like that, but right I just wanted to clarify what happened with that.

H

Process, yes, yeah, yeah! Okay, thank you kim. Thank you thanks again, thanks again, okay, we're going to turn.

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To a discussion of the critical areas of need, um and unfortunately we don't have access to the no.

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No, we don't- I I have it here, so I'm just I can type in as we go and read it back to.

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You, but I can't project it up there. Okay, so we had started to talk about transportation.

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Kevin I was trying to escape from this, but.

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So we had done transportation, mental health and we had started a little.

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Bit about workforce shortage and child care yeah, I don't think we talked about it. A lot.

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I don't remember talking about childcare thing in the presentation written for child.

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Care yeah, because I I remember only because I had an idea on that one, so child care we.

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Have one potential solution, which is subsidized child care for employers.

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um So I guess, do we want to just kind of keep going in order or yeah, so we had done.

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We just start from the top, so are we good with transportation seems pretty good yep.

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um Mental health, mental health as well can, can, I add something to the mental health one yep.

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um I went to the learn session that the seacoast women's giving circle did, which was focused on.

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Mental health and the impact on the local community and one of the things that I was.

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Thinking about when we were thinking about like small dollars and bigger impact, is the fact that.

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They have a process in place where they give about a hundred thousand dollars in grants that they.

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Would be vetting specifically around organizations addressing mental health in the community and it.

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Might be something to consider where there would be that already set up, that there might be a.

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Recommendation around adding to that particularly around the focus of mental health, so that there's.

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More opportunity for the organizations that are addressing this in various capacities to to be.

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Able to do more, it was a great panel that they had they had focused on youth. They had focused.

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On adults and just all sorts of the challenges we've been talking about so add funds to.

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To an already existing grant source, okay specifically focused on addressing the need.

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The mental health needs in the community so did this just take place recently that it was. It was.

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um Last week or the week before, I was at the seacoast women's, giving service seacoast women's.

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Giving service- and is this for this next 2023- that that's their initiative yeah. So um it's.

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Their their application process you submit in january and are notified in april or may I think.

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um Usually they give up out about a hundred thousand dollars worth based on their fundraising.

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They also get some support from the foundation for seago's health that also gets put into.

H

That pot of money to disseminate out um so just curious did they come up with some of the same.

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Issue of transportation workforce I mean I can just imagine that it was pretty similar to what.

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We were well, I mean, I think the panelists were speaking. You know they had someone from namp.

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Nami nami nami, they had some student starters from nami. um They had rochelle jones from the.

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Police department they had tracy tucker, who has her own private practice, working with youth.

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um And then they had a senior in high school who's, been doing support groups and different.

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Things with high school kids, specifically addressing mental health challenges, and so.

H

I mean there was lots of ideas and opportunities on how we could address the needs in the community.

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And what they were seeing- um and I was just thinking that, since they would be vetting these.

H

That would take the process piece out of it for the city, so it might be a nice.

H

Recommendation for a chunk of the money, I think they had jody too from um yes, she was.

K

Excellent is there a report, that's available to see like what took place to online or somewhere.

H

um No, they, it was just a little formal yeah. It was informal in terms of the stickers ones, giving.

H

Circles, a group of folks that fundraise and raise money in order to address a specific need in the.

H

Community each year we have a website, though, so there might be some sort of synopsis of it. Yeah.

L

Maybe excuse me they have a website the seacoast women's, giving circle. Okay, yeah, okay, um just under.

J

Agencies- I'd probably like to see a few more there, um so I'm just going to say that we only have yeah.

I

Because mental health and seacoast women's giving circle- I just added some point some of that, but I.

J

Think we could add nami uh the seacoast chapter, uh the ymca, greater seacoast uh community health.

J

um Seacoast pathways of granite pathways in full disclosure- that's a sister program of my own.

J

Company but it's non-profit connections, peer support, so peer-led mental health.

J

Supports on islington street and then the new greater portsmouth youth wellness coalition.

H

I mean, I think this is one of the interesting ones where.

H

So many organizations are addressing the mental health needs like we could list. Probably every.

H

Organization that well right, I had like the rec department. I had you know uh home care, arts and.

I

Reach little league right because, if we're thinking of getting people involved in things.

I

Right, maybe that proves the point that this is. This is a huge area of need and there's a lot.

I

Of ways to kind of get at it, I think we should list all of them right, because I don't think.

J

It's everywhere, I think it's very limited. Excuse me abby. I miss what you said. What you recommended.

I

Oh, I was just saying like I was looking at some of the notes I had and I had things like.

I

um Some of the different like comfort care, home care arts and reach um little league or babe.

I

Ruth baseball, like just ideas of anything, about mental health, with kids that you know having those.

I

Safe alternative activities, well, you probably should add haven and yeah. I think I had haven.

I

Down yeah haven here I have the portsmouth adult education. So, um okay! So that's a lot.

I

Hold on, I think we need to be exhaustive or list types of agencies and not list by name.

D

D

Side just to bring it back to the portsmouth women's giving circle and what they've done.

B

um I'm wondering um if we can make a recommendation to the city council to do a set aside for a match. You know.

B

If there's an organization that like like them, that is specifically did some fundraising for.

B

Mental health um they've raised a hundred thousand dollars and they're gonna do some.

B

Grant stuff with that right, whether they there is some additional matching money. You know when you.

B

Do fundraisers, uh sometimes a donor will will put forward a certain amount and then it's matched by.

B

Other donors, whether that is a a potential way of supporting that specific piece of it.

B

um That will benefit other organizations throughout the city.

B

Just putting out that out there as an idea, I mean, if organization a were to do a fundraiser.

F

To raise money for this project that the arca funds would match what they made. Possibly you.

B

Know we could set do a set aside for that, but it would mean that we would have to know.

B

um Kind of the landscape in terms of what what what people are raising money for and so on and.

B

So forth, and it would have to be a situation that um where, in this case, it's really great. Because if.

B

Money is charted towards mental health, um so it's an easy thing to to to to potentially consider.

E

I like the fact that they're, they are an established grant making organization.

E

um They have a really good reputation in the community.

E

And I would imagine, have a pretty well-developed process around that um and if we're going to start.

E

To think in that vein, I wonder if we should make a recommendation that the new hampshire charitable.

E

Foundation is considered as a part of where money could go so that that takes that process piece.

E

Again out of the hands of anyone who doesn't have the experience of how to do it or time.

E

The the other way we could do it, too, is if we did make a decision we wanted, because.

H

This mental health piece is happening sooner than later. We could make a recommendation specifically.

H

To support a piece of that, but then make the recommendation that there's other venues and.

H

Then lists like your listing organizations, the type of one so that again we're not you.

H

Know the city can decide the best mechanism if, if that's the process, that they're going to be.

H

Doing is grant making well laurie, I I I I you know in terms of leveraging and and sustainability of.

B

This over time, I love that idea of trying to bring in other organizations like the.

B

Charitable foundation to see if they are willing to work with the city of portsmouth, I'm kind of.

B

Expanding this over time and supporting all these different things that we ultimately what the city.

B

Council decides they're going to support, so I'm just going to put in the recommendation summary.

I

At the end, something like work with established grant making grant making yeah organizations.

E

um Would you mind adding seacoast soul models to the mental health list.

J

Lori, where do I find more information about that? I couldn't oh sequences.

J

Seacoast soul models; s-o-u-l, oh okay, uh okay, carrie penna is the executive director they're a.

E

Non-Profit, um I would imagine they have a website. um Essentially they work with um young women after.

E

School typically, they coordinate with air and other organizations to support young women who.

E

Otherwise might not have a space to seek support and connection with. Thank you. I think that that's.

H

Why I was thinking about when I was at that event thinking about that process, because there are so.

H

Many smaller, like we're, never going to be able to talk and speak to all the different places.

H

That are already doing some of these things and can make big impact with small dollars that I.

H

Do like the idea of at least for some of it to address some of the issues we're talking about.

H

Seeing if there's a process, the challenge with this, one, though, is that we'd have to make the.

H

Recommendation like a specific recommendation when we speak to the council because of the fact that.

H

The women's giving circle would need to know if they were getting additional funds to put into.

H

That process of grant making, but I think for for maybe we can help them because of timing. But for.

B

Future, we can, you know if we make a recommendation for some sort of a set-aside for matching dollars.

B

For funds raised through private funds or through the charitable foundation, and so.

B

Forth that again leverages resources that um the five point whatever that number is.

B

um Leverages that and makes it um more meaningful over a longer period of time,.

F

I talked to carrie last week and she said that, because they didn't have transportation, a lot of the girls who would have received services. This.

F

Year, couldn't come so they're they're serving the ones who can get a ride home, which is really sad.

A

So we're still in the same place, we should probably yeah. I feel like mental health is good.

I

um We had a lot of solutions so as we do these, should we be deciding what area or what? What kind.

F

Of things have the most impact yeah, so that right can be used when people are deciding on grants to.

F

Choose let's what well I mean, there's the impact part of it. There's those four questions. Yeah.

D

What's the issue, what's the impact on public health, what are the solutions and what's the.

D

Agencies right right, okay agency, yeah important- because you I'm sure, we've all heard this they're.

G

Learning gaps across the whole country they're talking about that being one of the major you know.

G

Responses to covert 19., you know it isn't just the young children, it's all across the world.

G

Every newspaper I've read and have an article in the new york times or wall street journal.

G

They talk about another place in the country, that's going through the same thing you know and.

G

It's at the top of the list of issues. I would like to add to workforce shortage. The problem.

J

If I may, a lack of landlords participating in hud, voucher programs um and.

I

Is hugged with just one hud, I think that's a good umbrella term um lack of affordable.

J

Or available child care programs which may be tied to transportation, um lack of public, slash, employer.

J

Slash provider, knowledge of work, income on existing state and federal benefits. I don't know.

J

If it's too worried is that too much, um we could keep that out. It's good just the hud vouchers, yeah.

H

So it's interesting because you you did that under workforce.

H

But then it's all the other issues too yep uh-huh.

I

I had put um like limited training opportunities too just because if you have to pay, you know.

I

Like we talked about the cdl thing, nine thousand dollars to train even to get the.

I

Job then, how do you have that um so just how are we training people for the different jobs.

B

And that's why I think one of the recommendations should be that.

B

um The city really needs to partner with local educational organizations. I mean the one big one.

B

That comes to mind is a community college, but I'm sure that um the technical, um what is it? What is.

B

It called the cte portsmouth high school um should be part of that conversation um because there are.

B

Ways to there are already low cost programs, but if um there no ones need to be created to serve.

B

um The current needs, then that can be done, and I know that the cte works very closely with the.

B

Community college, with great big community college, so there's um there's a potential for partnership.

B

With the city and and so that that needs to happen, I don't think that that's ever been as strong.

B

um Strong these relationships had really been very loose, so I mean I, I think that.

B

If we're you know in this in the case of workforce, if we're going to have an impact.

B

On addressing the needs, then there needs to be some coming together. Some relationship buildings.

B

Some planning and so on and so forth. That's just that just really doesn't happen very often.

B

um And it and the city really kind of needs to drive that another piece for.

F

That is supporting immigration or yes, people who have just immigrated most definitely.

J

um I feel like we could elaborate on the impact too.

J

um uh Employee burnout is a huge problem. The human services, especially employee turnover.

J

Disruption of services, and then we have increased, reliance on city welfare, transitional benefits.

J

um Yeah and I know all the local non-profits client loads are up significantly, yet our capacity is.

J

So low because of the lack of employees, um it's just a recipe for disaster like to add to that.

B

Whitney, I think that we all know those of us who work in nonprofits and run them know that.

B

um We need to find ways in which to support our staffs in from a compensation perspective in.

B

Better ways to make, I mean, there's an expectation that nonprofits run on a on a shoestring and.

B

um And that's changing, but I think that that needs to be considered um it there's the city.

B

Needs to understand that if it needs, if it's going to retain a healthy non-profit sector to address.

B

All these needs all these challenges that we have going forward. The there needs to be a change in.

B

Mindset about how nonprofits work I mean we're businesses too, we have to. We have staffs. We have.

B

To compensate them, we have burnout, um we have, we have to train and support and all those things.

B

um So there's some process of education. That needs to continue to happen, and I.

B

I don't know what that means in terms of wreck making recommendation to the city, but.

B

I think that that needs to be understood as well. The non-profits we're doing really hard work.

B

um And um city really needs to find ways in which to support end of state by the way, not just the.

B

City but the state needs and needs to support us, so we can do be around for the long term and and.

B

Do really good jobs- and I I mentioned that, and I know some of you read the article around around.

B

um Crossroads house in in the portsmouth herald- and we mentioned the fact that we.

B

Have to raise 70 percent of our revenue from donors. That's that's in our minds, unsustainable.

M

Well, could could we talk about in in this section and as well, is bringing this this.

M

Up, can we part of our recommendation be that um the cities there's some type of legislation like.

M

Panda brought up about some some support for non-profits, just continuous support.

M

That that is beyond this, yes, um some type of some type of legislation that.

M

We that we recommend that we push for that. That says that nonprofits are.

M

Need you know that are that they have to be sustainable, that we have to take care of them.

M

That they need to always be part of the financial planning. I don't know I mean I obviously I agree.

H

With what we're all saying about sustainability of nonprofits, I think where I'm getting caught up.

H

A little bit, though, is that what is the city's role like this is the city's arpa funds that.

H

We're making recommendations about so what are the pieces that are educational in terms of what they.

H

Need to know is the needs and what's impacting the needs, is the issues facing the nonprofits, but.

H

In terms of recommendations around specific legislative things, I'm not sure that that's.

H

Something that the city would be no that's, but but you raised a good point amber. I.

B

Mean I think that that's something that non-profits need to come together around.

B

um And a matter of fact, just uh because of that article in the herald, um families, first families.

B

In transition reached out to us- and they want to get a meeting to talk specifically about that.

B

Issue and how we might work together to to talk to legislators about it, but more of a non-profit.

B

Needs to be at the table, that'll be the next task force yeah. So have we finished mental health or.

D

Are we still, we finished mental health, we're working on workforce shortage? We have.

I

Are there any other? We kind of had moved from the problems to the impact on public health.

I

Employee burnout and turnover disruption of services increased reliance on welfare.

I

um I mean I had it all kind of goes together right because child care, education, transportation.

I

Extracurricular housing. I had all that written on my notes. I don't know if you want me to add all of.

I

Those things because, yes just to prove the point at all right, did you also put lack of funding for.

N

Training, I think you mentioned that in the problem. Yeah uh lack of landlord, a limited training.

I

Opportunities right yeah: what about programs or non-profits that combine work and housing.

M

That be a recommendation for workforce shortage. It could, I mean, certainly important what we're.

J

Looking at, I think, at a model that doesn't exist in the area like a sober home that involves you.

J

Know, workforce initiatives that would be in my field um there's a great one in dover is.

F

It it's in durham, it's called um how many homes and then it was senior uh assisted living and they.

F

Couldn't get workers so they built apartments and they built a housing development. John and.

E

Maggie randolph are amazing individuals, so there is a model for that. I don't know if anybody's.

F

Done that in portsmouth, no, they are the only ones doing it. They're really out of the box thinkers. So.

G

um Wasn't there uh something presented a couple years ago about building workforce housing right.

G

Downtown fort smith, yeah, the ruth griffin house exists, um but it's all at that capacity. Yes,.

J

I don't I don't know if there's any other initiatives going on building developments.

B

There are very small number of developers that are thinking about building, affordable housing.

B

And there are many challenges to it from from zoning to municipal to time and money and lawyers.

B

And so forth, um because there's workforce housing issues just in general and then there's supportive.

H

Housing challenges for populations that need the additional support in addition to housing, and I.

J

Wonder if, like the property developers in the area, could have some kind of tax incentive offered by.

J

The city I mean is that something that's possible in order to consider it usually is they're, usually.

B

As tax credits and and their incentives that they get through the state or through hud,.

B

um So that those non-federal you know like localized, not a lot of red tape, just here's your.

J

Rebate, yeah, I don't know, invest new hampshire has brought in some money for housing that way sort of.

F

Here here you go if you're gonna do it, so it has been supported in the state a little bit. I think.

E

That um the workforce housing coalition should be mentioned as an organization that would be.

E

An excellent group to lead some conversations in that area: workforce housing coalition, okay,.

I

We do have a whole nother slide that we had done for housing, just okay, which.

F

Our place is meeting with a developer from connecticut in the next couple weeks, who.

F

Does 40 units, 30 of which are for workforce and 10 for adults with developmental disabilities.

F

Nice, so we're going to be meeting with them to find out how they do it.

B

The um just wanted to well it's in my mind. There are a couple things that I think.

B

Are really kind of long longer term and and bigger issues like workforce and like housing,.

B

That um are going to need a lot of work over the long term, and so I I hope that we don't.

B

um Yeah, I'm just wondering about the recommendations that we may make to a.

B

City council on that, because I I want to make sure that we are focusing on.

B

Things that we can certainly, we think at least that we can have an impact on like.

B

Mental health and like child care and those kinds of things that I think over the next few years.

B

We will um the city working together will have an impact. um I I just don't know how we are going to.

B

Whatever recommendations we make to the city council on housing or workforce, I mean I.

B

Think we should because they are obvious, but those again are, I just don't know how to work.

B

Gonna impact them over the short term right, even if even if they don't respond, I think.

G

It's critical that as a group, we present that to them. Yeah, I didn't say we didn't okay and you're.

G

Saying that you know, I mean I'm thinking of half the people. I've spoken with said that that's a.

G

Major issue here yeah. Well, I think we all agree on all the issues that we're going to present.

H

And how they overlap and the impact that they have you know we've. We definitely know all of.

H

That, but I think to your point: well, I I think what we have to do once we finish going through.

H

All of these is really look at. Is there anything that is rising to the top of a true recommendation.

H

That we could make, or are we at the point where we do want to recommend that we have more time.

H

To figure some of this out, or also see the things that this group might not even be able to tackle.

H

At all, because of right I mean I, you know, I like your ideas earlier sort of not handing it off, but.

F

Giving it to people who are already doing this and have systems set up and you know, can make.

F

The decisions and we can help them, which can be a bunch of different pieces. It doesn't have. You know.

H

It is a bunch of different pieces. Are there any other agencies involved for workforce shirts? I had.

I

um Big brothers, big sisters was something we put last time. The portsmouth high school cte.

I

Program and the workforce, housing coalition, um apprenticeship, nhf community college system- that's.

J

Vanessa rasheed is doing really great things with creating apprenticeships. Okay, um probably voc.

J

Rehab needs to be in there, especially if we're talking about supported employment and stuff.

J

um Recovery from recovery, friendly workplace initiative is key. um I would like to mention.

J

My own agency, but it's allowed job, launch job launch of safe harbor recovery center.

J

um Have new hampshire housing on the list.

J

Is rockingham community action on there important housing authority, housing authority? I don't know.

J

If that should be under jose anymore workforce or both, you can't talk about one, that's another.

E

Sticky process area in, in my view, um they have put forth their own.

E

Request for funds of like 1.3 million dollars to um help with some projects that they have ongoing.

G

So I just want to see it's another space of overlap and I supportive of what everyone's.

E

Doing I just want the the pie to be shared equally as much as possible. So what had it from this five.

F

Point four million okay. So what helped me was to forget all about what those requests were.

H

Because I think what we're doing is we're coming up with our own ideas on what we see as the needs.

H

And ideas for recommendations which could include half of the things that were put in to the various.

H

Already submitted requests or application pieces, but because again it's a weird process of us all.

H

Trying to make recommendations around the same pot of money- I guess it's more important that the.

E

Council think about that, at the time that they're making the decisions about where.

E

The money goes, I think, they'll be mindful and, like I think, that's a fiduciary responsibility.

J

Of theirs not to duplicate efforts, but it's hard because we're talking about complex needs.

J

Which are highly intersectional and so we're kind of faced with either sectioning off one.

J

Piece which is kind of where we're leaning, transportation or recommending the money go.

J

To agencies that can give out the money and make that decision, but one more time.

J

Does anyone have access to all the money that these different organizations already have.

J

Well, that's what the grant making agencies would be sure of looking at those financials and yeah, it.

G

Would be interesting for us to see that right now, in terms of recommending which ones we put most of.

G

Our heart and soul in no- and I think, that's a yeah that would be a little dangerous, yeah yeah. That's.

B

Not our job, it's not our! That's, not ours! Abby! Where are we so yeah? If we're good with workforce.

I

Shortage, we still have child care, housing and substance misuse, as well as probably coming up.

I

With a plan for actually presenting at the meeting all right, so why don't we? Why don't we plan on.

B

The next 40 minutes or so 45 minutes then do a stop and then then uh think about a strategy for.

B

Addressing the city council? Okay, so if we move on and so child care problem.

F

Parents can't work because their kids don't have chocolate, there's not enough options.

E

um For children that are under six, there was already a 60 gap.

E

In the licensed child care spots available for children under six prior to covid,.

E

And that's only increased and exacerbated since covid.

I

There aren't enough employees, child care, people or competitive wages, there's issue with training.

J

I don't know if it's lack of training or lack of trainees, I'm not quite clear.

J

On that, um there's no head start in portsmouth. That's right! They didn't give an answer. Yep.

F

And you know one area where it might not have to do anything with non-profits would.

F

Be supporting workplaces and having their own child care, I'm not sure what who! Because, if a.

F

Non-Profit isn't doing it, you know right did I mention that last time we met yeah.

D

Not that expensive, and particularly you don't need to get licensed if you're, if the staff are on site.

D

And it really it's just a no-brainer, because it's a recruitment retention tool.

D

So that's what I had under child care. If, if the city could hire someone to facilitate.

F

That within businesses- and you know so is that happening. Currently we did it just when.

D

Covid was there so we had a learning center, so the kids that the staff could drop their.

D

Kids off we got them set on my computers and then had activities before and after school.

D

So maybe they incentivize, maybe part of the money, incentivizes employees or employers, to do that.

B

Again, a good model to look at is harmony homes. They they've put.

B

In their own daycare, in addition to the housing for their employees, yeah on site.

D

Yeah, that would be great, that's just more expensive. The housing's really expensive.

D

Does timberland still have yeah they used to their own child care daycare um just as a.

E

Point of reference for, but but you know, child care like many of these lore and lower pain.

B

Areas has a really tough time attracting because people don't want to go into lower paying job.

B

Lower paying careers or jobs and there and there's there's that and then there's sometimes there's.

B

Just not a career trajectory right, um so I think that that needs to be solved for not just child.

B

Care, but for a lot of our frontline workers that they're just not make getting paid a livable wage.

B

I mean even across this house, where we raised our our uh hourly wage from. I think it was 14.

B

When I started 13 14 when I started now, it's 17 000 an hour that is still not enough to.

B

Pay for a one bedroom right or even a studio in the portsmouth area if they can find it.

D

I'm getting second jobs, my staff listening or if they do need child care they're not no longer.

H

Working they're leaving the job because they'd be putting all of their money into child care.

H

Yeah, I know that the bureau of developmental services is going through some changes right.

F

Now and um they are recommending that the direct support providers.

F

Become credentialed and that they have steps that they can climb to improve their careers.

F

Pay minimums at each step that hasn't happened. Yet that's what they're looking at.

F

Problem, if you could do that with child care workers in a in a city.

D

um Impact then so the impact on public health. I just moved.

I

Parents can't work down to that. One yeah.

B

Well, the impact on public health is parents can't work, but also it.

B

Creates so much stress, say: mental health stress mental health on everyone, children.

F

And parents yeah the kids- aren't getting a as full and experience as they could. If.

A

They have a stressed out: parents, yeah social interaction and all that yeah.

G

And kids coming to kindergarten are probably less less prepared than they used to yeah.

M

And that causes stress in the schools, although your.

D

Baby boomer, we all none of us- went to child care.

D

What did you say? Baby boomers? I didn't go to child care, I don't know, but you also.

I

Didn't sit on an ipad or an iphone for hours. We were out, they threw us outside.

D

Bell to call us in for dinner.

I

Well so that impacts obviously workforce yeah right.

D

In some of those lower paying jobs, they can get, they can work from home and make more.

D

Money which is another the whole telehealth, is a competition for frontline workers. When.

D

You need people in the workplace, yeah or the big box corporations right, yeah, yeah.

H

When I think, if we think of child care beyond the real younger age, kids, there's the child.

H

Care before and after school issue or summertime camps and summertime is another good point, yeah.

M

And doesn't the lack of child care put children at risk or a variety of their home alone? Yeah.

M

Neglect yeah yeah increases risk for um unsupervised.

H

Then you have the transportation issue. If there are after school things right.

I

Okay, um potential solutions: there was one that we had subsidized child care for employers. It was.

I

From last time- and then I just added kind of the provide child care at businesses- I don't know as.

I

Being an idea, I don't know how it would be funded but um improved wages for child care workers, yep.

L

But it I don't know how that yeah, how do you do that right? I know I had asked. I had met with.

I

The director of the peak program and I had asked her that question about what about doing like a.

I

Sign-On bonus or whatever you know, and she said, unfortunately, that a lot of times that people take.

I

The sign on bonuses, and then they just because right because the need is so great everywhere.

I

um And it's so in demand. You can stay here for three months and then go to another science. So she's like it, doesn't really help that piece. um Can they pick.

F

Up their sign-in bonus after two years of work, I don't know if that'd be the incentive.

I

um The other thing I was going to say is that again the cte program at the high school, because.

I

I know they do have like an early childhood certificate that you can get through great.

I

Bay, so just again, how do we foster that? How do we- let people know more about that? I guess.

I

um That piece for providing scholarships or other things.

D

I think, even if we had partnerships with the high schools that they shadowed, you know they come to another channel.

F

I don't mean to complain, but I can't get unh students anymore. I always used to be able to get.

F

Unh students to work, but they don't seem to need money anymore. It's amazing, buddy from neonate an.

F

Intern you found someone yeah, because it's it's an intern yeah yeah I've just been trying to get.

F

People to work with people with disabilities- um you know ot department, nursing department,.

F

Nobody's interested in psychology, I haven't tried psychology yeah the other problem. I know for us at.

I

Little harbor we're a partner school. There aren't people going into the teaching program. We don't.

I

Have any this year, which is like really scary and sad, I'm not fun anymore, so yeah this! So we.

I

Usually have student teachers who are accredited to have them, and this is the first year they don't have enough to give us. So they just stayed kind of more local, like oyster river, durham and kept.

I

Them at those schools- and we don't have any oh well- that's not good yeah they're, dental yeah.

B

I'm just wondering if, if the I'm thinking about child care and from uh demand perspective and.

B

A pipeline perspective that people are not going into because of the.

B

Certainly not getting paid enough.

B

um And so there are a number of issues uh they're. Not maybe there are not enough training programs.

B

There are not enough workers to go around and so forth and one I'm just.

B

Wondering if, if the model that has been in place for a long time really, is you.

B

Know as we change as a society, whether that's the correct model that should.

B

Still be in place and again I'm going back to the idea of more a child care in the workplace, which.

B

Not everybody can do, but certain companies can do and it would alleviate some of the strain.

B

It would be better, probably better paid better supported and the parents are on location there.

B

Are many ways in which it makes sense and so again it's it's not a solution, and it's.

B

Certainly a a longer term view of it, but I just don't see how we solve the child care problem.

B

um From our the from a pipeline perspective, it's you know the the kind of workforce, but I sent you.

D

The two of you that article on immigrants and how their businesses are actually taking sort.

D

Of adopting immigrants that come in and training them so that they have a skill- and this is you.

A

Know in manchester, yes, we don't have as many immigrants on this. We have a lot in somersworth a.

D

Lot of indonesia, we do have indonesians. Yes, yes, because the church yeah, but are they actually.

F

Working in the different departments and different companies are inspiring yeah working with them.

I

I was just thinking one of the maybe another potential solution to is just.

I

um Kind of partnering agencies we already have you know so that idea between.

I

um The peak program, the schools and the rec department and seacoast mental health right like.

I

All working together to streamline it a little bit because, right now, it's all each elementary school.

I

Has their own peak program and then now they're busing, some kids to community campus, but is there.

I

A way to kind of you know somebody to coordinate that and streamline it, so that you're getting you.

I

Know because, right now I know that new franklin didn't have enough kids for peak, so they sent.

I

Them over to community campus, but they have like three kids over there. She has this empty room and.

I

Nobody's there because people wanted to say it just got messy and it's you know, is there a way.

I

To to streamline it, I guess- and that's not even necessarily money unless you're paying a person.

I

To coordinate the services but um and then giving kids access to some of those things that already.

I

Exist like the rec department or pmac or whatever after school, um you know, or before school or.

I

Whatever, but I don't know just somehow taking what we already have, it just seems all like piecemeal.

I

And coordinating it, um I don't know: if that's the money who coordinates it now is nobody. Nobody not.

E

Anybody at the school, not anybody at peak nope. So if you're like a family that wants peak you.

I

Go to peak and then each individual school has their own peak program and then there's also mc3.

I

At new franklin, which is a great program, but then it's just another program, and so then people went.

I

To mc3 and not peak and then so pete got left with a couple: kids they're at seacoast and and now that.

I

The city owns the building over there, that's great because they have space and so then todd's doing.

I

Rec stuff over there, which is great, but it is again you know and abby what is peak stem. Oh sorry,.

I

um Portsmouth, I don't even know what it is it's after school before after school care yeah, I don't.

N

Know the acronym, but it's separate from seacoast mental health center right because it goes my.

N

Health center is also located in all the schools. Yes, and they have they send providers in which is.

I

Awesome but again it's like this doesn't do after school, seacoast community school. Yes, it is owned.

I

By yes, it is run by seacoast community, that's cool, yes and then seacoast mental health is separate. So.

I

Yeah yeah, it seems like a perfect place to do like a pilot yeah and I know having a coordinator yeah.

N

Right that could be a short term. Could school be the coordinator yeah if it's through them.

I

Well, the peak program would be, but I don't know how they would do like the transportation from the.

I

School right because they wouldn't pay for that and then like community right, like in the rec.

I

Department would run programs, but did they like? I just don't know who again it's who does what, but.

I

um How do you coordinate that? Because that seems like an easy fix? Is there a possible solution.

J

With having the city hire someone who coordinates child care, transportation and housing initiatives.

J

Right, I know I mean: could that be a solution right like yeah right, because it's third party.

J

It's right, you know they would figure in the coordinated position and if the city determines.

F

That it's a good thing to do after a year or something yeah. I like that idea, coordinate.

G

For someone who ran the peak and the mc3 programs for a number of years, they're different programs, I.

G

Know I participated in the after school programs a couple of times and they were very popular yep. No.

I

They are these children there's never a shorter. I mean there's adults who ran different aspects.

G

Of it you know so, and so of course the city of portsmouth doesn't have a head start anymore.

M

Nope, no, we have did we have to do anything in replacement of that noir. So if a child is.

M

Under kindergarten age and they don't, if and their parents, don't.

M

Have money to send them to a private preschool.

F

Oh there's public preschool in portsmouth. Isn't there there's the peep program, but do you have.

M

To be accepted into that, you have to be at a certain between yes yeah. You have to be three.

I

To be in the peep program um and then there's a combination of children with disabilities and then.

I

um Kind of the regular ed students that go the other problem with it, as I always found as a.

I

Working parent, it's like nine to twelve right. So so maybe you guys never worked. Maybe we need.

M

To look at that peep yeah, expanding peace right, create a position to coordinate child care, but.

H

Where does that fall under like who does that? Currently expanding peep would really be school.

I

At age, three, because there is the peak program, so that could be like an esser fund like or.

I

Conversation about how to expand that program and the school's got a lot of money yeah, so that that.

I

Peep program, I would say specifically, which is, I totally agree with you, but that would be.

I

More esser, I think we can still include it as what we're seeing as yeah part of.

D

The problem yeah our solution and our solution, yeah, but because it's related to city, children,.

I

Okay, um any other potential solutions, child care and then I'll do agencies.

I

So agencies involved again we have the high school program for training community colleges.

I

I

um I guess maybe seacoast community school right because they have is already doing it.

J

I'm not sure if we should mention like a child uh scholarship fund.

J

um There's like that benefit cleft, so um those with an income under certain limit can get a new.

J

Hampshire scholarship and go to kindercare, let's say yep, but then you have all of those that figure.

J

It's just cheaper for me to not work yep and I'm wondering if those are the families, those.

J

Lower middle income that could really utilize one year of uh subsidized child care.

M

I also think that one of the problems, too is that then the women are being left out.

M

Of the workforce [music] and it's becoming a wider gap for them I mean, if we really want to.

E

Talk about this issue like we're, only picking out pieces that we might be able to solve, but.

E

The whole system is going to have to change if women are going to have an equal footing in.

E

The workforce, because it's just that's not how our society is designed right so certainly not.

E

Something this task force is gonna solve. We can be on another task force and talk about that exactly.

E

Maybe one of these task force can be in the evening snacks.

G

But I think it's also important to be honest about that. These are some of the things that.

G

We thought about and that we maybe agree on. I know the whole system needs to change and that's not. I.

G

Don't think there's anything wrong with presenting that to the city council that we believe there are.

G

Many changes that need to take place for this to work out because there's still going to be all.

G

These people left behind well that that really brings in the whole idea of how do we become.

B

More resilient, yes, as a community, yes or whatever future crisis we have, or just just resilient as a.

B

Community that we continue to address these issues because they're not going away, I think we can try.

G

And bring our community together a little bit by having a number of public discussions or public.

G

Forums on many of these issues as a lifelong teacher, I think that works, but I note that the.

B

um The immigration issue has been brought up a few times and I think that that there's an.

B

Opportunity there I I don't know how many of our residents certainly on the seacoast, are.

B

Immigrants who come here with a certain skill set um and are not being uh you know,.

B

They're not integrated into our communities or into work. So that's something that certainly.

B

Should get some attention because if we're not bringing those people into the economy.

B

The way that they should be brought into the economy, then it's a missed opportunity. I mean.

D

Some of them come in as doctors and they're not credentialed. Here can hear you. No. Oh sorry, some of.

D

Them come in as doctors and aren't credentialed here, and so they can't work as doctors, mm-hmm.

H

So one of the things I was just thinking about it when you were talking well about recommendations.

H

Is that, knowing that some of these issues are so lofty and way bigger and we're listing all of.

H

These organizations that address different areas- maybe a recommendation, could be to have the city.

H

Continue to have a couple of ad hoc committees that really dive deep into these topic areas.

H

Before spending the money yeah, you get the folks to really look at. How can we fix transportation.

H

To all of these things, or how can we do that and not ongoing? Just like a quick couple of meeting.

H

Ad hoc things, not I'm not ongoing, no, but that gives him a chance to get her needs assessment.

D

Done too right and then you have data to go with it yeah. That would be a good, so continue. The.

I

Conversations about the areas of need right and maybe they're split up, though so one group dives.

D

Into transportation, task force or whatever public, because these are huge, although they.

D

All interact with each other right right, but I'm just thinking process wise if there is a way for.

H

Because I'm still getting caught up in the very small amount of money that is available for all.

H

These things to me, you would still have to have some sort of understanding of what is.

H

The is there a little pot of money for each of these topic areas in terms of what people.

H

Are coming up with for solutions, because those would really be the solution-based folks thing.

H

We think this one thing at this level, or these couple of things could come in, but you kind of.

H

Have to have costs associated with that, but I might be getting to process focus where you were.

E

In the beginning of what you were saying, though, I think is something worth thinking further about is.

E

Perhaps it's part of our recommendation that the small amount of money that has been designated.

E

For this group to help inform the council with that, there's a percentage placed for this.

E

Topic focused area, this topic focused area so on and so forth, and then it's left to.

E

Some sort of grant making organization some some organization that already has.

E

The operation in place to be able to get the funds to the organizations that can provide the direct.

E

Service yeah, but I think the other piece I was trying to get at is: is there an opportunity to.

H

Get creative with the folks that, rather than all, these siled groups applying for good projects.

H

That they're doing and things that are having an impact, but getting the folks together. That.

H

Can really think outside the box to me it's face too, but maybe that's a phase two. Maybe.

B

I I love that idea kathy only because I think that we all are at least I am struggling with you.

B

Know having to come up with some recommendations for the city council to consider with this short.

B

Amount of money over a short period of time when we know that we are talking about some.

B

Very big, significant challenges that we have as a community and a society and has already been said.

B

You know we we kind of have to think out of the box and start to think about how do we transform.

B

How we think about some of these things or how we do them, and um I think that's where the real value.

B

And work can be done, is in carrying on beyond this, the this body um and coming together as a.

B

Community and figuring some of this stuff out for the long term for resiliency, um because I.

B

Just I think I think, you're heading in the right direction. It seems like a long-term process like.

F

We ought to be you know, whatever this committee is, ought to be researching success stories around.

D

The country, why reinvent the wheel, right and we're on them or how about other countries.

E

Here I mean we're all poor yeah.

A

3 million goes to the health department. That leaves us with 2.5 million.

F

um But you know 1 million can go towards providing non-profits with grants if they're, if they're.

F

Aligned with our what we've picked out and then another million can go to support peak and peer.

M

I think that's important to look at it from a long-term perspective because we're going to be.

D

In this situation again, and if we don't work together, we're going to have the same issues.

D

I added one I think yeah it's at least important for us to speak to the fact that we recognize that.

H

There's not quick fixes right all of these things and that there is going to require additional.

D

Right, I always like to give the example up in laconia. He just he doesn't work.

D

There anymore, but at the health center up there they had, they actually did a 401.

D

You know they actually formed a non-profit in 501c3 and they all came together for companies and.

D

Non-Profits and they built a sidewalk, so the kids could walk to school, and so you saw I mean they.

D

Actually did this together as a group and wrote grants and got your nations, and because that was.

D

Going to reduce their obesity rate, so I mean it's, you know looking up from the long-term perspective.

D

But getting other people involved, not just us, not just non-profits. I think that's a great point. Yeah.

I

Yeah right we have housing and substance. Yes, we can do that. We've got 15 minutes. Okay, okay,.

I

Housing, we talked a lot because we were doing work for shortages right they're, like hand in hand, so.

I

If you want to repeat just tell me and I'll, stick it in I'll just say about housing that we need to.

B

Figure out a way as a community to support want to identify and to support developers that are.

B

Very interested in developing, affordable housing or housing to house vulnerable populations and.

B

um They're there, but it's such a constrained and convoluted process that people get discouraged and.

B

They walk away and then they build market rate housing. You know so so we need to figure out a.

B

Way as a city and which to to identify, bring those people forward and nurture them and and.

B

So forth, okay and also accept those cards. What are the um the vouchers yeah section.

D

Eight votes section: eight yeah incentivize the landlords to accept them absolutely.

E

I think a part of that is really education to landlords and the community to better.

E

Understand what that means, there's so much misunderstanding, and if there are a handful of.

E

Developers that are interested in participating in that kind of project, it seems as though.

E

The project gets to a certain point and then people that live in that area.

E

Right about it and complain about it and say they basically not in my backyard they're.

E

Naming yep, and so I think, the more opportunity that there is to provide education, so that would.

E

Be like the seacoast workforce, housing coalition. They do a really great job at.

E

Myth busting, um I think that has to be a part of it, yeah yeah. I think the other piece too, though,.

H

Is the just rental assistance in general whether or not you qualify for a voucher? It's still an.

H

Ongoing challenge for folks that will eventually get to the point of being able to sustain their.

H

Own housing, but getting to that point I know a lot of the folks that we work with are initially.

H

Homeless, even though they may have good jobs, because they're fleeing leaving an abusive.

H

Relationship but at the same time, they need that time where their rent is being subsidized.

H

While they get back on their feet to that sustainability and the rents it, you know, if you.

H

Don't have that assistance, you don't have it. You can't make it it's impossible. Yeah. I could go on.

I

Provide rental assistance temporary yeah! Well because we heard from ellen when she.

H

Was talking about the challenges for the welfare department? Now that that program was ending for.

H

The rental assistance yep and then I wrote, educate landlords and developers to accept.

I

Section, 8, coaches or about section 8 vouchers is it, do we have a new name for them yet? Is it.

E

Not section 8 yeah, it's all housing choice. Rogers. Thank you choice. Yes, about housing, housing, choice.

I

Voucher, I really want to get rid of that yep. It's got a stigma: housing choice, vouchers, okay,.

G

So evie are you going to forward this to us? um I shared it with all of you a while ago, so it's.

I

A document that you all have, but I can re-share it yeah it's the same document, I'm just updating.

I

It yeah, I feel edit it and the other thing is, um and I don't know how we do this, but I I know the.

B

Importance of housing authority has been doing a good job trying to build additional uh housing.

B

For vulnerable populations, um so they need to be supported. However, that happens.

F

Yeah I've seen you know that they off I'm not sure. Maybe dover housing is offering workshops.

F

For renters on how to be a good tenant? Yes, yes, oh not, because people are missing some basic skills.

B

We do that yeah yeah, so we do we do that, but we also um want to you know talk about landlords and.

B

Identifying landlords, because they are there are they are, they are out there. The problem is that.

B

They are very um nervous about bringing people, uh you know they have the wrong idea in their.

B

Head about who they're renting to a lot of times, and but we, we assign case managers to all of our.

B

Residents when they're going to housing, they help with the education piece getting them prepared for.

B

Housing and even post how posts being placed in housing the twos stay in that relationship.

B

In case there are issues that come up, so that really helps to build that relationship between.

B

The the tenant and the landlord and to mitigate any challenges or issues that come up and that's.

B

Just something that I think has been really helpful to art to our residents as they.

B

Get placed in permanent housing, so that's the support program yeah, some more of the supportive.

H

Housing support programs back on mental health housing. First, initiatives need to be promoted.

F

Would be a mental health thing.

I

If I just go back to housing, because we jumped, of course to solutions because we keep talking.

I

About the problem of what we're problem and impact on health, what would the statements.

F

Be that you want not enough so problem lack of lack of affordable housing, affordable yeah.

A

Yeah and what is affordability, what does affordability mean? I know right yeah. You know.

B

That we're building how we're building housing even on the affordable side for people who are.

B

Making forty eight thousand dollars, plus um across the state we're not making we're not building.

B

Housing for people who are making barely thirty thousand dollars a year, um so those frontline.

B

Workers who are making 15 000 an hour they can't they can't you know it's. This would mean that we.

B

Would have to build housing at six hundred dollars, seven hundred dollars, eight hundred.

B

Dollars and that nothing like that exists right, so lack of affordable housing for individuals should.

I

I put a threshold who are making less than blank like thirty thousand dollars or something like.

I

That just to kind of hit home the idea that we're not talking about 48, 000, 48, 000., okay,.

F

We need income tax.

E

Whoa, don't get crazy, you know so another one would be obviously because we just wrote it as a solution.

I

um Landlord or we say landlords, not accepting the housing vouchers or something like that.

F

Well, there's choosing not to participate. I think stigma is an issue and I think home for all is.

J

One of the agencies- you guys work for that basically matches land, does that education.

J

Of landlords about about your benefits and then matches case management services with.

J

Those units that they set aside, what was that called home for all chrome for all.

F

And also people landlords need to be educated about supportive housing, because if you have.

F

People caring for the people in the house, you tend to have really good.

F

You know hygiene and dual following and things like that, because they have supervision.

I

Impact on public health does anyone know how much risk of homelessness? I know two older women abby.

H

Asked a question risk for homelessness um impact on the workforce where people are leaving and yeah.

B

We need to move on to the last topic, which was.

B

Causes it's the problem, hang on sorry.

J

Okay problem individuals dying of drug-related causes.

J

um I don't know how we want to put this, but it's a family issue. So if an individual is.

J

Struggling the whole family is struggling and often silently suffering, because it's so the.

J

Stigma's so prevalent still believes in family stress and yeah function: yeah, maybe entire family.

J

System is affected. What we see at chase home is kids who are orphaned yeah, because their parents.

K

Have died, promoting and that's still happening, wow yeah, so it definitely affects the family.

K

System for sure, because then, if you have the other systems in the family that need to take.

K

Care of these kids or or they can't or the child itself becomes, you know, has a very at rest. Yeah.

B

Has drugs in their system when they're born that time? Oh yeah, we see that quite a bit. Oh yeah.

J

um Yeah, that's infant mental health initiatives, yeah um and then, let's see uh and then yeah.

J

Like um I'm sorry, what is your name? uh Mimi was saying: um parental caregiver misuse, the.

J

Effect on children such as neglect um or chronic neglect, and then that stresses the um dcyf and.

J

It's pretty bad right now. This is the stresses on the on the support state systems. Yeah.

J

And we're seeing a lot of like recidivism, so people are returning to these systems.

J

Systems involve families um because there's so much active or return to use due to covid.

J

And it appears, according to the um uh I'm sorry latest, statistics that were.

J

On track with the same amount of overdose deaths in new hampshire, related to drugs,.

J

um But I I don't think that captures the full extent of current use and rates of recurrence.

J

Return to use, I think people are an active, full swing and it's silent and then um it's not.

J

Getting better, let me put it that way: it's not right! I would also point out the connection to.

H

Adverse childhood experiences and trauma childhood trauma leading to substance, misuse and abuse.

K

Treatment, obviously, is yes, pretty pretty low and scarce in new hampshire, yeah there's a lack of.

J

Available treatment, meds, um expensive right, oh yeah, and then there's that lack of detox options.

B

One of the things that um we see is adults who come with all this trauma from childhood. So that's.

B

Those early experiences with parents that are addicted.

B

They're being neglected, I mean that carries on for life. Oh yeah,.

E

Appropriate time to to bring up this other pine tree institute yeah and the they're.

E

Requesting funding from the city as well, and it was asked if we want to.

E

Include this organization and our recommendations, or um I'm not exactly sure.

E

I I listened to the city council meeting and I read through this. I know they do a lot of.

I

Stuff with the ace scores, because I've done a lot of that, but maybe it's just somewhere- that.

I

We include in with our agencies it's pine tree as another agency. That's working towards this.

H

Yeah, I'm not quite sure how we how we would include it, I mean other than to.

H

Speak to are recognizing that we do need to bring groups together of folks to address.

H

You know figure out ways to address this, but the funding piece, I'm not quite sure what are what we.

H

Do with any, I don't think we do anything with that right. I agree. I don't know just just yeah.

E

If they were requesting specific arpa funds or if they were just requesting, I think I asked that in.

H

The last meeting, I'm not remembering what karen said, I thought she said it was general city. I.

I

Think they just came to the city and then I think andrew was at the meeting and said: oh we're doing.

I

A lot of public health send it to this committee kind of thing to see what they think well, and I.

B

Know that the pines pine tree institute is working with the city, I mean they have they're like.

B

They have some there's consultants. Are there doing some projects with the city around mental health.

H

Well, there's this portsmouth recovery ready community coalition, which is a group of folks.

H

It's not just pine tree right right and then there's the seacoast. Does it list the seacoast.

J

Coordinated response committee yeah so the u.s coalition members, um but I think we should.

J

Just list it right with pine tree and then um go into agencies involved. Put it there. Yeah foreign.

J

Recovery center, yes, it does exist, oh july 20.. It can be in july 2022. a couple of witness the.

F

Coalition, it does feel like a funny process, though, because the whole thing is weird yeah.

H

It'll be realisticated recovery center, even because we're doing it yeah, but you should haven yes doing the work already.

I

I know I think, that's the outcome right like why reinvent the wheel, we have all these ideas. We have.

I

Organizations working on it now we need to support them, but how does how does that go about yeah? I.

H

Just think in the presentation, it's important to say that this is not exhaustive, because.

H

Right right, we weren't necessarily brainstorming. Maybe it's just types like we said like yeah, not.

A

Just my name is, I think it's definitely better as categories you know, homeless, healthcare, you.

D

Know yeah well the. um What is it called that I found? We have our guidance department uses the.

I

um The list that has like all the nonprofits, the community resource network- oh yeah, it has.

I

Like pages and pages I mean one of my ideas was like: could we fund it to make it user.

I

Friendly because yeah right, the 97 pages, what if you could go on to their website, support.

J

Them and you can go into their website and you could put in a search bar. Yes, only like support.

C

Drug recovery and then the agencies would come up like I was like. Could we put, I don't know.

A

I did the same thing in my guidance department. I printed the whole thing and that's what I used.

I

To look up a lot of the agencies, I was like wow, we have so many great agencies, but I didn't know that.

I

Until I went through the index and but what, if it was a google like search website, a city pages, this.

J

Is uh susan turner's right, community resource network yeah, it's just yours, but it's great big.

I

But then you have to print it out like every year, that's cool, but what, if you could actually type it.

G

In and just like a website and you're like, I am an individual or I am a whatever that needs. Yes,.

D

Granite united way might be already doing this with two on one: they don't they don't. I talked.

E

To lauren wool about this process, because I was going to have her invite her to present or share.

E

um And then we were so far in the process. I thought it's just not worth it, but actually granted united way should be on the list.

E

um For so many of these things, yeah home for all, is part of granite united way, yeah yeah um by the.

B

Way we uh yeah, we have just a little bit over 10 minutes potential solutions for substance misuse.

I

Potential solutions for substance misuse um fund existing agencies, you get so shameless. I can't.

J

um Well, I mean it all goes like if you could provide housing, you could write transformation.

I

Yeah, but um is there any solution to the lack of providers for treatment.

H

Well and again, I look at solutions in terms of going back and looking.

H

At prevention, education and addressing childhood trauma and all the pieces.

H

That lead to a school program, as well as the supportive services that are needed for.

E

For the image department, yeah yeah, I mean it's very comprehensive. It's it's almost like this cuts.

J

Across all exactly um I mean we need those people to be working, yes, especially yeah, but they need.

J

Supported employment too, because it is, it falls under disability. So you know those in recovery.

J

Have unique needs and it falls under housing under housing, yeah yep book rehab, folk rehabs involved.

D

The recovery friendly work- I've learned a lot from because that's what we do now. It's really.

J

Good, I learned so much they're great they're, a huge partner of ours and they designate places.

J

And then we work with the clients themselves to develop that plan and then take an offer of.

J

Every sport, but you guys do the recovery support too, once they're placed continuing that support.

J

Yeah, so are we, I know we're talking about the presentation, but as part of that, are we going.

H

To be looking at extending this group's time or is um well that's just one question: do we feel that.

B

We need more time. We certainly will probably say that um the health department is doing their their.

B

Study and that uh you know, they've requested that some of these funds or the funds don't.

B

Get expanded until that study comes out to to at least confirm um what we all think is happening.

B

And are we looking at presenting? I know karen mentioned the fifth right, yeah yeah and that's.

H

The one we want to because she said that there was yes, but that we would need to get stuff right. We.

I

Need to clean this up and get the day like yeah. I do wonder about, though, just like to get like a.

I

Pulse on it like, if it's worth just going, you know giving sending the city council this ahead of time.

I

And then presenting just kind of an overview, this is what we're doing and have them say like if you.

I

Want to keep going sounds great or if they steer us in a direction. I don't know because we're doing.

I

What we think they want, but I don't know I almost feel like we need more time yeah, because I mean.

B

We're having all these wonderful conversations, but it needs to be, it needs to continue to be.

B

Filtered, I think, and we're not there. I mean we've got 10 minutes and this meeting and.

B

We just haven't filtered it enough and we've got some good stuff. We've gone through the process, but.

B

We need a couple more meetings, I think, before our certainly before I feel uh comfortable, saying.

I

Do you think it would be an indian come back to a meeting then or something yeah? I just.

I

Worry that we're like going and I don't know well, I think we had an opportunity to present.

E

At either the meeting on the fifth or on it was like after it or something it was like.

H

A wednesday or so 13th this one's well the 12th march already. Well, that's a monday! The december.

I

13Th right nope, that's when we were gonna meet, I don't know what the other one is.

E

I can look it up on the city website, so I just looking for clarification. Are we thinking that.

E

We don't want to present anything in december or that we present sort of like a an update.

E

I think I think we have to present or something yeah. Maybe we can do this. The later date.

F

It's there later today, yeah update could be the top issues. The main three things that if we're.

G

Talking about what mental health issues and child care and transportation, workforce and workforce.

B

Yeah well mike the way I would approach it is whoever and whoever we need to identify one or two.

B

People on the on the committee that are willing to present and just give an overview of the work that.

B

We've been doing and where we're at, if we need we've kind of ask, for you know some more time.

B

And just have a bit of a conversation about what we've been talking about and from a kind of a 30.

B

000 foot level, in terms of you know, this is not an easy process given where we are.

B

As a as a community, meaning new hampshire, this the city, the community, the seacoast.

B

um That we are, we want to make sure that whatever recommendations we make are both thought about.

B

In the short term, if we can make some short-term recommendations, but also taking us down the path.

B

Of thinking about, how do we evolve as a community longer term, and how do we.

B

In thinking about resiliency, if another crisis hits us, how do we address that? Because the 5.5.

B

Million or whatever that number is, is only going to get us so far, so it looks like the.

D

14Th as the city council meeting and another one there's one on the fifth and the one on the 14th.

H

Right, I think our challenge, though, is that we still would need to get them everything before.

H

We like we're, only scheduled to meet again on the 13th, so I think we need to meet soon yeah.

H

Yeah right, but I don't know I mean I like the idea of us going and presenting kind of.

H

This whole process and going through all this, the stuff- that's on the slides that you put together.

H

And then making the recommendation of this task force continuing to meet for and then to come.

H

Back at a certain like that, we come back, you know, put a timeline on that. We can go and say we don't.

B

We're not ready to make any recommendations, but here's our brainstorm. Here's our brainstorms.

J

Yeah, what's come to light, is this is a highly complex issue and what covet did was expose all.

J

These vulnerabilities, but we have an opportunity to really make positive, sustained impact. Yeah.

H

Well- and I think part of that presentation could be you know and again it doesn't have to be our.

H

Recommendation but recognizing that there are groups like the seacoast women's, giving circle.

H

You know so that can still be put out there to the city as something that's happening. Addressing.

H

One of these issues and they could decide if they wanted to put anything towards that or not right.

B

So question one: are we ready is? Are we saying we want to go to the december 5th meeting and say.

I

This is where we are. This is where we are. We need more time. I think we have.

J

Some level of presentation we could do with some definitives right, yeah all right, so we're good.

B

On december 5th, yes, do we have to provide written material to them before that? Yes,.

F

So I don't know: how is that going to happen? Well, we can provide this. I mean, I think this.

I

Is all we need to provide as your framework and you're just going up and going through.

I

And this is our brainstorm. This is our work. Okay, I just don't know I karen's away, but if jessica.

I

I think you were me, I think it's all set, send it to them. Yes, yes, question two who wants to present.

B

Anybody feeling the whitney.

F

Laurie, I'm having surgery that day, abby I'll co-present with you, okay, thank you lori! Yes,.

B

There you go, I will do it beautiful, wait, so lori and with me gloria and whitney yeah. I.

I

Think it's just an overview right. Yeah we go deep. I think we just this is what we've been working.

I

On and we need more time so I will get this um next monday, typos edited out and to jessica to.

I

Send to the city, council and you'll: send it and I'll send it all in the same email, yeah.

E

I'll text you I mean, I think we have it in any of your other one, because we.

I

Started going on about all that stuff and we're not meeting again between.

J

Now and then we're going to present and over right right. So how are we deciding.

J

We'll decide how much of the presentation we're reading basically and weekends have.

E

A cup of coffee or something but yeah we're allowed to do that. Just two of us: it's okay.

E

Should we adjourn the meeting the meeting? Okay wait a minute, uh we uh any public comment, uh nope.

I

No public comments: okay, I'll entertain a motion to adjourned laurie's moved who's seconded. It.

D

All in favor thank you.