City of Portsmouth, New Hampshire Municipal Alliance for Adaptive Management, 15 Sep 2022

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9.15.2022 Municipal Alliance for Adaptive Management

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To newington, oh thanks, uh thanks to newington for hosting us dennis, thank you and.

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um Thanks for portsmouth, as always for pulling this together, reporting and making sure all of.

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Our virtual folks, students can attend uh so we'll start with going and doing roll call.

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We can go around and just state your name and your affiliation, but then also um for the sake.

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Of our minute taker just note, if you're a voting number or not, and I can start at gretchen young.

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City of dover- and I am a voting member- dennis master your account in newington voting member.

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I'm melissa, paley great bay, pistatical water keeper, with.

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Conservation law foundation representing the stakeholder committee, not a voting member.

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Jennifer perry public works director with the town of excellence. I am a voting member.

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I'll start uh suzanne woodland, deputy city manager for the city of portsmouth voting member.

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Jamie hall, director of the unique stormwater center.

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Brian getz, deputy director of public works city of portsmouth, uh non-voting right, supporting.

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Supporting new support, uh terry demers has uh moved on to the consoling realm, but he'll still.

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Be working with the city just not in the city capacity, so I will be working with together.

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With jamie or she's kind of the technical side of things- and you get to be here and on the screen.

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That's right: yeah yeah! So I'm not brian goetz, I'm jamie mccarty city of portsmouth, non-voting member.

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um Well, let's, let's go, we can finish the online then we'll do the rest of the room. So eric.

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Back uh us epa, uh I'm not voting and I don't think any of us voted epa, but.

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I'm not actually sure that, but I know I don't vote no, not voting, but thank.

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You so much for joining us. You're welcome all right! Katie come on.

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Poor kitty katie, we have lost him. We've lost your voice.

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Just her, it looks like everybody else is moving around yeah she's frozen on my screen too. So.

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Ambrose is a voting member.

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um Jim, are you able to go yeah jim stein, kraus raf young pignatelli.

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Here on behalf of rochester, not a voting member or just a public participant.

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Thanks jim and then emma hi, I'm emma williamson, I'm filling in for renee bordeaux, from geostintech.

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Okay, great welcome emma katie. We did lose you, I don't know if you want to try again or.

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The morning, sorry about that um katie ambrose city of rochester.

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Deputy city manager- and I am a voting member great thanks- katie all right.

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Thank you, I'm sadly, soul from new hampshire department of environmental services.

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Great thank you good good turnout. Today, um all right we're going to dive in before we.

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Get going, we've got a packed agenda and we've got a number of things that have a lot of overlap. So.

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I just want to remind everyone of that as we go through, because I wasn't really sure how.

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To order everything so we're going to start by going through the um yeah. Well, okay! Yes, let's.

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Go ahead and we'll we'll approve the minutes from the june 23rd meeting I'll make a motion.

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To approve the minutes, so second all right version by suzanne second, by jennifer, any.

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Discussion, oh, he didn't get something yep. Just a quick question. I noticed in the minutes that.

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They did that milton and rollinsford reps weren't able to attend, but it looks like they were there.

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Remotely so I don't know if we need to edit that briefly yeah, we can edit that thank you good catch.

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Right any other comments.

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I'd accept that amendment. Okay, great, is that amendment all right. Are we ready for a vote.

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um We'll do a world called vote because of katie, so gretchen young, yes dennis messier.

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Yeah jennifer perry, yes, katie ambrose, yes and suzanne, woodland. Yes, and did I miss him? I think.

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I got everybody all right, perfect, all right so back into the agenda before we dive in, like I.

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Said there's a lot of overlap, and so I wasn't sure the best way to do this. But we're going to have.

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um Communities talk about their plans, so these are the uh nitrogen reduction.

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um Plans moving forward talk about some of the projects we're working on. These are initiatives.

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That aren't necessarily uh have quantifiable nitrogen reductions that just kind of all of the.

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Things we're working on then we're going to get a review from ptap, which is talking very quantified.

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uh What nitrogen reductions have been tracked, so uh we're going to see what communities have been.

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Doing over the last year and then what um and I think we're going to notice that maybe uh more.

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Input would be helpful, but it's going to be. uh That is what has actually been reduced in the last.

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Year and then um a third thing that I'll bring up that I did email recently was a letter from epa.

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Which um we, we won't, spend a ton of time on, but it does have a number of comments about source.

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Reduction plans, so we can talk about those. I think all three of those things have a lot of overlap, so.

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Just keep that in mind as we go through the agenda today, all right so we'll get started, reporting out.

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By the municipalities on the progress of nitrogen reduction efforts- and uh I can start with dover.

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um I just want to remind everyone like I just said that these are. um This is just kind of a.

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Summary of the different types of projects that we have going- these are things that are in our.

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Capital improvement plan um I've put where I can reasonably make some estimates on what is going.

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To be reduced, I've made some pasta meds, um but again he's you know. These are just guesses costs.

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uh A lot of it is a little bit more finalized. Some of it is just kind of what we have in our our crp.

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And then I've been in some progress upgrade update it's a pretty long list, so I'm going to go quickly.

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But I I didn't heard anyone to ask questions um as I'm going through. So we've got a court.

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In union street project, that's reconstruction downtown one of our kind of gateways into the.

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City, that is in design right now, and hopefully our construction next year and we'll incorporate.

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uh Bmps that has not been fully designed yet, but we're looking to get some some good uh nitrogen.

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Reduction through there there's nothing there now, uh fifth and grove. That's a similar project.

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um Right now it looks like we have 275 000, we'll need more of that, as the cip comes.

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Together, but that will also include some new bmps, where there currently are none.

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um Both broadway central reconstruction neighborhood, this one is a pretty substantial.

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um Upgrade it's a pretty large neighborhood a lot of potential this year in the cip process.

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We've bumped up to a 22 million dollar project. Now that is ambitious. It's quite a lot of money.

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So you know that will have to go through its funding process, so it's postponed out years.

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um It's in need of repair, so it certainly is on the docket and uh I've guests on on.

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Potential nitrogen reductions, but that has not been designed um so the oak broadway central.

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Upstream of broadway albert we're doing a master plan, that's kind of associated with that same area.

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um So we're just doing hip klinefelder under under contract, looking at how we could potentially.

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Incorporate bmps and other stormwater management through there. So that's just kind of a first step.

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Lower henry law in river street that is under construction, I do not know what the reductions.

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Are going to be we we have about 7.7 million to do that. um Excuse me. Sorry, it's not under.

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Construction, it's under design, it's definitely going under construction. We also just learned.

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That we received some srf funding for this next project, the bmp project. We knew we had funding.

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For the design of that we've been working on the design we also just received, uh became.

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Aware that we will receive srf funding for um the construction of that bmp, it was about.

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3 million in the srf, so uh that still puts the city needs to figure out how we're going.

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To fully fund that, so these are just kind of in working on them. They are moving forward.

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The waterfront development um that is under designed and I'm working with the consultants.

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To get input into the uh pizza program, and so I don't know what their nitrogen reductions are.

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I know that there are good bmps all through that and it's going out to bid in the next.

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Few weeks so that will have reductions- and I just don't know what they are yet.

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Little but this is the type of work that we're planning to do just constantly so.

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um We are repaving a street as we do a number of our streets and uh it was wider than it.

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Really needs to be about 30 feet wide, even wider. A little neighborhood we're going to narrow that.

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Up, we already have we narrowed it up, and then we get about two pounds of nitrogen reduction.

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So it's small but it'll, add up as part of our paving um program moving forward, tanglewood.

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This is one that's been in the uh in the cip board. Here we have a difficult resident and so.

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We are in the process of litigation and have not moved that one forward, uh chapel street ravine.

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I think we lost the audience yeah. I've lost the audio on your room, same.

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Looks like we lost the feed completely from them I'll see. If I can message them.

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Well, I can see a video. The video had stalled at one point, but oh there, it.

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Is yeah yeah we have a video there's, no sound.

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You guys hear us, can you hear us now yeah? Is it louder? Is it really.

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Low, that's right! No! It's about the same yeah. We can hear fine.

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Mastered again,.

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Right now we can.

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They can't hear us at all. We can hear you, it says it's showing hey there yeah. We can hear me yeah.

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All right so we'll speak up. Yeah we'll just have to talk wow there you go. Can you hear me, though,.

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That's true, I'm not sure which is gonna work better or not like. As far as it goes.

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Well, it's well we're using the laptop one now do you want to try it with that.

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uh The cord for that is only like.

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Oh okay, brian, can you hear me coming through here yep? Can you hear you hear me? Yes,.

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Oh no, this is working again, oh, is it nope needs to stay plugged in well. She because.

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Switch back one more try here: okay, so there we go.

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Have you still got us jamie yep, all right there? We go all right well, so um this is a technical.

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Meeting we have a lot of it's a good we're good at getting nitrogen reductions. We're not good at.

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um I.T and and putting on great presentations, but um all right, so I'm going to continue down.

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uh Chapel street ravine is where I left off. This is a cool project we've been received.

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Quite a bit in sr fund fun funding and are potentially going to do a large cmp.

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um In what is now very eroded and uh underutilized area of the city, a dredge cell closure, um that's a.

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Pretty substantial project that actually is going to be an addition, new impervious area.

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Because we're going to do some reuse of the path to do some parking for recreation area. But we will.

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Incorporate uh nitrogen reduction so that that's under construction or under design right now.

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uh Cochico outfalls upsizing and fixing um very old uh box culvert that has some erosion issues.

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I'm not sure again not how much nitrogen will be reduced from there, but certainly.

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A lot of sediment reduced and improvement to the the overall system, flood management.

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Etc, uh lower central ab construction: this is a project that started off as a um a water line.

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Improvement uh then we realized that really the sewer needed to be fixed and then it has ballooned.

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But I think in a good way, into a reconstruction of a the whole portion of central ave, which is.

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Going to introduce new bmps, reduce payment um and make traffic improvements is another. You know.

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Students could be uh introduce new trees, so that's a good example of how projects just are naturally.

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Incorporating these nitrogen reducing features, uh there's a roundabout going in on droplet road.

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That has some infiltration units going in, so I don't know what the reductions are going to.

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Be there, but they will be there uh oak street reconstruction, um I that is used. Some of these.

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Are just an rcme, so I don't know what will go in, but we will incorporate uh dmvs over improvements.

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On 6th street, we have a couple of things that we've been um really trying to get some funding.

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Through either the seafring or some srf or arpa are a number of undersized culverts in the city.

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um And just by kind of fixing that flood mitigation, I don't think we can really associate.

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Nitrogen reduction parts exactly with those but overall improvements uh to the stormwater system.

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um Street reconstruction of central ave washington street to silver street that isn't out here, but.

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That'll that'll go uh reconstruction of locust street is on our crt storm water and flood.

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Whistling and seton utility development, it's an exciting project. I know I've talked about.

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um We are, uh we have, are just waiting for government council to approve a hundred.

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Thousand dollar uh season and then we will bring on a consultant and really publicly.

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Develop a stormwater utility which will then go back to uh city council for um football adoption.

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And again no set nitrogen reductions there, but certainly you know we'll make a positive impact.

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uh Storm sewer improvement, city-wide drainage, master plan. um This is about a half a million.

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Dollars it's in the out years and uh we put half a million dollars in our sewer and our water to get.

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A master plan to really kind of plan out uh out your cip project, it's a lot, and so then this is.

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So also did this half a million for the uh storm water because we are treating it as a utility, so.

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um You know we really want to be able to have a robust and strategic plan to make improvements.

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Strong atlantic ave reconstruction that one's been postponed for a number of years, so we're.

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Hoping any any day now, that'll go, that'll have bmps third street and chestnut street roundabouts.

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It's something that we're working with that it's the dot, but it's actually the railroad.

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Goes right through downtown and we're looking to do some improvements with them and then.

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um Incorporate some bmp is something um it will be. A real focal point for the.

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City, so we want to take advantage of you know, potentially uh showcasing simply mp. Was there.

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um Central avenue rollins to sixth street these are just you know again, just improvements.

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um Pavement projection and seeking something for when it's now included as part of the pavement.

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Management and that's just a we had to sit down. We decided that as part of our pavement.

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Plan where we can, where it makes sense and where we can afford we're, going to reduce pavement and.

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When we have some countries that don't have sums or or you know, areas that really could.

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Have some filtration units we're going to try and just put those in as a matter of practice, so.

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um That's just a kind of a shift in mentality with our highway department.

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Foreign street reconstruction, that's a road with one of our elementary schools on.

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It that's going to be redone, uh that's in the berry brook bar shed. Some of you are familiar.

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With that, so that'll incorporate some of the lid that we've done throughout that watershed.

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um Stormwater improvements on old rochester road, so that is an area I think melissa, you're familiar.

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With that area, because some of the old septic systems, I wouldn't be doing the road and try.

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And make so modern improvements they're there as well. um We have another project right near.

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The intersection of um uh route 9 that we're going to try and make improvements, the drainage there is.

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Non-Existent really bad with potholes and beeping in the winter. So uh that's going to have a pretty.

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Substantial stormwater deployment, um the north end sewer line extension. We've had this on the.

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Books for years and years and years, it's very expensive it's difficult to do, but we would.

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Love to extend some sewer out to the existing septic area, so we don't lose track of it um and.

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We just keep looking for funding opportunities for that uh drew road culvert just another.

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Covert reading to upsize for flood control street reconstruction into static on back river road.

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That's a long long road that we can certainly make improvements to. We are building a new state park.

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um And that's going to have a rain garden feature and I think that's going to be in-house work done.

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Probably next summer I think they've started some of it and uh so that you know that's up by our.

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Existing ice arena um there's a downtown vehicular and pedestrian master plan kind of we're. Looking.

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At the traffic and the sidewalks and and uh it's an incorporated, complete streets into.

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That whole downtown area- um I don't know what their and specifically planning for storm water.

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But I do know that there will be enhancements, there'll, be street trees, all sorts of stuff.

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um Well, I continued sorry and I think advocatement management in here twice.

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uh Cornerstone project, that's something that we did this year. It's been completed.

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um But it was, but this was kind of an exciting project. They uh there was a community, it was a.

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Private development they had some build subject to the point that our health inspector could see.

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It and had you know, stop uh discontinued their ability to use their community septic system.

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um So they were stuck in a position where they were having their.

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um Their individual sums uh pumped out or yeah septic tanks pumped out um every day. It was really.

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Kind of crazy, and so the city was able to work with them and extend city sewer into a private.

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um Subdivision and um and they had to pay the connection to the city sewer line. Now we have.

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An easement through that private road, but uh it was, you- can see, 285 pounds reduction.

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um But by bringing all those homes off of that failed septic system to the municipal silver line.

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So that was a great project and I think really showed us how much we've been gained by doing that.

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um So actually not listed here, we just got potential srf funds to do.

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Something similar in the in an area around barney brook down in the southern part of.

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The city so we're going to keep trying to push those types of projects along.

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um And then a video bmp retrofit initiative we're working with the unh stormwater center.

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To try and get some 319 funding um to look at our old detention pounds that we have you.

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Know that were put in the 90s, everyone has them right and they're, probably doing more nitrogen.

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Reduction right now because they haven't been maintained and they've definitely look like.

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A wetland so we hate to just go clean it out, and so what are we going to do so? We're gonna.

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um Hopefully, bring these guys on and get some good retrofit plans, and I think that could be.

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Regionally, you know once we get kind of a good idea for that. I.

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Think it's something that there's a lot of opportunity there. So that's exciting!.

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All right street sweeping on drawing we actually just got to. um I have a demo of a new street.

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Sweeper with uh it was a an electric street sweeper this morning that jamie joined us on.

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Unfortunately, staff time, which I know a number of you can relate to it's hard to get people out.

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There so we are recommitted to really ramping up the street sweeping, but it's um it's a fight with.

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Them with my highway guys, because they just don't have staff, they don't have staff. You know it is at.

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The loss of something else um you'll see oh yeah. Next we have a street sweeping pilot project so.

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um We are so excited to be part of this. uh Dover is really uniquely equipped to be able to do this.

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Because um we'll do our street sweeping in the fall the way the street sweeper we'll dump it.

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In our touch base and spoils facility that will re-weigh it and start getting samples.

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And a good understanding of the organics that are being picked up in the streets we've been.

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um But you know that's very time consuming and it will take um a commitment on our staffs.

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So if we are doing it this year, but I don't know what the nitrogen reduction would be there, but I.

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Think it's gonna uh ramp up the ability of all of the communities to uh credit their streets.

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With bidding activities, um we do have a sidewalk street sweeper that we do um so. We do have some.

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Reduction from that, all right, we'll continue to do our leaf pickup for six weeks in the fall.

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um We have a compost, we've always composted our material. um It's been a less uh formal agreement.

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With a person in farmington, we now are working with somebody in the city who is able to take.

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More compost so we're logically able to really ramp up the leaf debris that we pick up in the.

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Fall and we're composting into dover and then you know we have ideas about potentially being.

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Able to get that compost back to communities. Excuse me to residents! So that's still in the.

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Works, but it's something that we're making big improvements on um yeah. We have our leaf litter.

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Management, so residents can always bring leaf litter and yardleys to our recycling center.

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Our catch-basing cleaning we've been doing the same thing for years and I think it works really.

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Well, we do practice in each year uh our wetland buffer. We do have an ordinance that increases our.

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Wetland buffer that um is upheld for all private development projects and public projects as well.

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Stormwater regulations um we have uh the we've incorporated the swa recommendations. This really.

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Isn't anything new, but it continues on the list. um Electric vehicle planning requirements so as part.

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Of our site plan review uh site plans are required to show their electric vehicle readiness, and this.

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Is something that we haven't really talked about in the past, but um we're starting to see that.

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There's obviously, uh an improvement by not having that tail exhaust coming from cars. So the more we.

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um Can get electric vehicles? I think we're really going to have some nitrogen reductions there too.

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With the solar, the student over requires 30 of large buildings to either have a green.

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Roof or solar, so you know I don't know what the reductions quantify there, but it's it's something.

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um Oh we've got it: we've had a couple of projects going recently that.

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um By regulatory could certainly have been septic, the developers want the juice subject in the city.

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Has dwarfs um and really put up public funds to extend steward to to keep them off of those septic.

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um Give them all receptic so how to quantify that. uh We have to join the.

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Slower, please, oh sorry, as part of our slight plan development regulations, um our old new.

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Projects are required to uh slow work, release nitrogen as part of their landscape plan.

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um Enforcing that, I think it's going to kind of tie back into implementing a stormwater utility.

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Right now, there's sharing global enforcement, but that is something that has a lot of positive.

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Potential leaf litter management, um so I think I'm sorry, I'm talking additional schooling uh pick up.

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The city organic fertilizer program: again, we do all organic fertilizer soil to release and so.

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um Across all of our student properties, that actually has a pretty substantial impact.

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um We continue to talk about and support a fertilizer fan in production, statewide or.

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Regionally, at least we do our fertilizer outreach program, it's really over what is required for them.

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Is for but also you know, part of the ms4 that waste an outreach education, at least 10 yard.

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Waste outreach education, accepted system outreach and healing parents who did what um exeter had.

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Done in the past and decide uh pamphlets and information to every subject owner in the city.

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um And above and beyond, outreach work that the city does um we are advocating for some.

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Statewide uh financial reduction, even the septic, permitting. I think that would be at the dds level.

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But has a potential to do some united skin storm system improvement? Again. Sorry, that's a 50 500.

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000 master plan, uh an idling policy. We are hard looking to reduce idling downtown. We.

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Do a lot of scene network, um enhanced lighting or excuse me traffic light improvements, so you.

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Know all of that works and then we're improving our electric vehicle suite.

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um We're incorporating new vehicles right now. We've got four ev units that we're bringing in.

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More and more as we as we replace the older other efforts inflow and infiltration, we've got a lot.

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Of ionized projects going to get to in in depth in these, except to say that um that reduces the.

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Peaks down at the wastewater treatment plant, which has an improvement on that whole system.

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uh Continuing to extend sewer um into separate areas, uh commitment to exploring emps.

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um And participating in innovative initiatives like a berry brook, like other other projects,.

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um Screening and commitment to innovation, uh um professional staff- I think one I just wanted to.

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Point out, I think that um dr jackson, ispari in our planning department, who is uh he got his phd in.

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I believe it was environmental, stewardship or sustainability, but uh these are resiliency.

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Coordinator, so you know he's doing work that I don't actually even know all of the things.

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He's doing water quality, bmp standard practice for the student city, reconstruction projects.

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um That we had our stormwater resiliency adblock committee that continues to participate in the.

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Duc and other committee meetings, so you know, keep that discussion alive and uh we.

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Just redid our utility master plan as part of the um that planning department's master plan.

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um And highlighted the incorporation of lid and nutrient voting reductions, the pilot projects.

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We've got the stakeholder pilot project and we do have the touch base and spoils facility, which is.

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You know we're really bringing that online, seeing how it's working you know getting tours. I think.

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I've got the seacoast stormwater coalition folks coming in october to take a look at it.

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um So we're getting the word out there and then um and then our wastewater treatment plant is.

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Continuing to perform very well, uh we did have one spike in april. I believe it was due to massive you.

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Know dennis's chicken is having those probably the same store, um so uh we're looking to incorporate.

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An additional uh treatment train we've got a new secondary clarifier coming on and doing.

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That ini reduction to really um get control over these storm events that cause me nice and peace.

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That is what I've got there. You go well, it's cool, though, and you know I love doing this.

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Because you just we have a brainstorm with my staff and the environment, the ev vehicles.

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I hadn't even thought about that, but yeah totally that that helps so you know it's fun.

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To go through investment and think about all the different things that we're doing any questions.

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All right, thanks for listening and pass it to you, jamie.

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Great, thank you gretchen. um So uh we'll start with the wastewater treatment.

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Facilities they're continuing the the new planet pure sounds continuing to.

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uh Work as designed, we don't have a full growing seasons uh set of data. Yet so we.

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Can't report on those at the moment, but uh trends from last year are continuing.

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um So yeah do you have a a list on the screen? You.

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Can share sure yeah that'd be good and I've got these um right here.

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How's that look at it small print, but uh let's see if I can subscribe.

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There you go nice.

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That better yeah all right um so plan structural bmps for the next uh few years, we're continuing.

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To work on our islington street project uh phase, two um final designs uh just been submitted last.

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Month and constructions planned for next year, what you're going to see there's a trend in a.

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Lot of these projects is that you know it's a lot of sewer separation projects where the.

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Aim is to, although we're increasing storm water discharge, uh we're reducing the amount of csos.

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Which are you know the main contributors to nitrogen um input into the system, so.

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um I'm not gonna go into big detail on these, I'm not project manager on any of them, but um so we've.

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Got our islington complete streets, beverly hill road is uh an un curbed road, we're adding um bike.

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Lanes and shared use path along there. It's going to be going to a storm water, uh gravel wetland.

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um Trading approximately 17 acres, uh willard ave is another sewer separation union streets.

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And other sewer separation- those are um looking to begin work in the next year.

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Fleet street uh final design and permitting are to be completed next year.

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uh Corporate drive drainage upgrades those are underway actually.

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um Again, uh improving roadway storm water.

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um Water quality units are being installed, uh treating approximately five acres.

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uh You know as part of our uh ms4 requirements, we uh submitted a list of potential uh bmps on.

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Municipal lands we'll be assessing that list. Looking to install a bmp in the next year or two.

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um And then you know, a lot of these items are similar to what gretchen went over so I'll kind.

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Of go over them a little bit uh more briefly, uh we're continuing to do street sweeping we sweep.

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All of our streets uh on a four-week schedule, you know april through november, so um we are.

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We we continue to pick up curbside leaf litter uh on a weekly basis for all of our uh residents.

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Continuing our catch basin cleaning program- we've, um you know we're we're cleaning more.

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Than 25 of all of our catch basins, each year uh averaging around 600 catch basins, uh a season.

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uh We're continuing to um administer our our uh improved redevelopment uh criteria for stormwater.

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Bmps and and storm water right uh regulations for any area of disturbance, greater than 15.

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000 square feet so we've uh in the last year had a number of projects that are now hitting that.

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um Criteria and and uh and having to provide design for storm water regulation, uh storm water.

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um Infrastructure uh in in their projects.

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What else is um we're continuing to use our liquid biological soil amendment, which is our.

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uh Compost, tea application uh for all of our recreation fields, instead of using fertilizer.

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um We've continuing outreach public outreach and education programs for fertilizer use.

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um We support a statewide ban of using high nitrogen synthetic fertilizers.

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Our pet waste outreach and education programs are continuing leaf in yard. Waste outreach.

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So encouraging proper leaf and yard waste management so that parents, with our leaf pickup.

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On a regular basis,.

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um The water, as memory exhibit at strawberry bank, is still.

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um There and and open to to uh to the public to come and view.

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The uh and our continued outreach for septic system outreach.

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So um other efforts uh we are in the middle of um connecting over uh 88 homes uh from septic into a.

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Low pressure force main system that connects to our sewer treatment facilities, so uh we're.

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Right in the middle of it, if you've gone down, sagamore ave recently you're hitting that construction.

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Continuing to look for and.

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Purchase conservation, easements and land surrounding our bellamy, reservoir.

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uh We are continuing to explore long-term funding for a stormwater uh program. We've got uh meetings.

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uh In the near future, to present options to our city, council um and um and then you know, to tag on.

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To our increased stormwater regulations, uh part of that is the utilization of the ptap system.

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um And so we're we're using that system to verify that uh projects are meeting the.

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Requirements of the increased uh uh storm water treatment um and then that is being fed into.

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Our uh online permitting system, which then is going to provide us a mechanism to follow up.

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With uh properties for future inspection and maintenance requirements that we have.

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Make sure that they're maintaining those structures in the future so.

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um That's all I've got be happy to go into more detail on any of these items. Yeah thank.

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You jamie I'm just going to highlight a couple of other pieces um and then, like uh jamie mentioned.

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The sagamore sewer project, the city council just last month. I think it was bonded and additional.

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Or authorized bonding of an additional english 1.2 million um so that we would have the funds.

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To continue to support those connections to the new municipal sewer so uh really to try.

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To make sure that people take advantage of the sewer, that's going in the roadway and get off.

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Their acceptance so there's been a very uh recent strong financial commitment to make that happen.

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um Let's see and in addition uh again to just follow up further on uh something jamie mentioned.

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uh We are anticipating that in mid-october we will be briefing our city council on uh the.

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Advantages of a storm water utility and looking to get their support to continue to move forward in.

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That process, so that's a work session that we'll have some time in in mid-october, is what we're.

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Expecting we're going to hear in terms of the date that they would prefer to see that information so.

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um It was all trying to make sure that you you're aware of that date, but if not pay me.

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um Because I think they're going to set that date uh next monday night.

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So um would you uh would you share I'll share it with everyone? You know.

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People want to watch her yeah, we'll see yeah, of course, and then uh one other piece is. I know.

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um uh Jamie mentioned right in the beginning, the wastewater treatment facility.

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um So, just following up on that, the city has been continuing to operate in both facilities.

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uh Very efficiently and effectively for the nitrogen removal, we are really well below our.

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Primitive amounts, um which is why we actually look at our handout. uh You know it's. It's 35.

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000 pounds of nitrogen below what our limits are, so we are not um yeah we're not holding.

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Back, it's they're being fully operate, we're taking advantage of the systems um capabilities.

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Particularly at pure silage, so we are well below that gate that we're working. That's how different.

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For the living life, but just now we it is a big amount and we're going to continue that effort.

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Can I just ask the whole question um uh when you get through the willard union and the fleet street.

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um Sewer separation projects is that it for your csos, oh they'll, be we have to continue to assess.

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And then, where do we go next so yeah? It's it's build and measure and and uh and assess. So I.

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Mean we've had a great success, but you know found uh the next areas that need to be done and that.

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How many will you still have after you have to say? Oh you mean well, they will still have the.

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Threes, the whole key, though I mean, is that we just keep reducing the amount that actually occurs so.

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um The flashy weather events are something that you know. Everybody in the world is dealing with.

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Including us I mean this last rain we got. It was like three quarters of an inch in a half.

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An hour, so it's I you know, there's no pipe that can handle that amount of water in that amount of.

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Time, and that is really tough- it's like everybody getting in their car and trying to leave peas, no.

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um And eventually they get out, but you have to bottleneck um the only other thing. I would ask.

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Is dressing touched on this very lightly stabbing? um It is we're down staff, and these are people on.

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The ground, so I mean we can sit here and talk all all day about. You know these great plans but who's.

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Gonna build them who's where the material is going to come from pipes taking six months a year to get.

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um I mean all these things, we're thinking way ahead on we're talking about generators, the other.

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Day and it's like well 18 months for a generator- it's it's almost scary. So I know the president.

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Talked about a funding plan for police and that and there's going to be a whole bunch of federal.

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Money to support police, but I would like, can we get the same thing or people to do water.

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Quality, I mean it's a it's a grand vision, but uh you know it's it's tough. I mean we're competing.

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With the shipyard that is, you know, going gonzo's sig, sauer lonza, you name it all these places, which.

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Are wonderful business, wonderful for the seacoast, but it's it's difficult for us to! You know, attract.

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And get and retain- and you know that that's very true and he yep and like and not just the water.

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Quality but um running your surface running the water department, all of that stuff, yeah.

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We've had people come and you know they've been interested in coming to work for us.

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And then they come into our facilities and their eyes and just bugging out, and I think.

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You know it's a great job, it's a great place to work, but it's a lot to ask of somebody.

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um To say you're going to be, you know somewhat responsible, forever. Writing this facility and.

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Then they they it's tough, it takes a. It takes a whole different um type of person to run water.

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And wastewater than it did 23 years ago, you just turn the pumps on and turn the flooring on.

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You know drive to the you know, process your sludge and drive it away that it's well. It's it's tough.

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Are you available to share uh rochester? Thank you. Gretchen um here you've noticed I'm having.

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Some connectivity issues, my it department's looking into it, but every couple of minutes.

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Or so I get kicked out and it takes about a minute for me to reconnect.

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um Which is all my cameras off to help with the connectivity issues so.

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um I can go through and maybe you can bear with me if I get kicked out for when I come back in or.

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I don't want to be too disruptive, I don't know if you have a different approach. You'd like to.

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Take we can go for it; it is what it is. Okay. Well, if you lose me I'll, be back in just a moment.

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So for our plan, structural bmps, we have colonial pines phase three.

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um Which is in progress um during infrastructure improvements are about 80 percent, complete.

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We're anticipating completion by the end of 2022.

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Stratford square roundabout, this project phase one, is complete. We are entering phase two.

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We're in the process of awarding that contract and construction will be going through 2023.

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Live in india go ahead.

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Oh sorry, I thought I heard a question nope you're, good okay has that one been designed.

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Stratford square yeah, the strawberry square- around about yes, we're we're in the so we already have.

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The utility portion complete and now we're getting into the actual construction phase, okay, cool.

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Woodman area improvements um we awarded that construction contract in april and.

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That will be ongoing through 2023 union street municipal parking lot. The conceptual design is.

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In progress on this project right now and final design is forthcoming with the next few months.

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This is a very exciting project. There are a lot of bmps that are integrated into.

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This right, downtown walkable from city hall, so it'll be a great project. Both.

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In terms of functionality, but also where we can use it for demonstrations as well.

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Wakefield street reconstruction um design consultant has been selected and the design phase.

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Will be continuing through 2023. this one's going to take a little bit more time for implementation.

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um Could somebody scroll down? Maybe I can't pull up my pdf and I see it up on the screen. Thank you.

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Non-Structural bmps much like dover and portsmouth. We have a lot of the.

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Same activities in regards to street sweeping leaf litter management, catch basin, cleaning.

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We're continuing to maintain our goal of 25 of all catch basins on an annual cleaning basis.

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um And we are continuing to advocate for uh some sort of fertilizer program. That's going.

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To require some assistance from the state in terms of the regulatory side of things.

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um Jamie could you scroll down please. Thank you. Other efforts.

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um Continuing existing structural bmps, the municipal bmps, uh we have more than.

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70 in our asset management program and we're beginning to track for improved maintenance.

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We are also within the next few months, working on entering them into ptap as well.

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Colonial pines phase three again looks like we have a little bit of repetition here.

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um But again that construction will be completed by the end of this year.

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Nitrogen source identification report- our draft report was finalized this summer and for 2023.

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We're reviewing potential catchments with high loading and bnp potential, so that's in progress.

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And then again, like the other communities, we've had our ongoing public outreach and education.

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We've been distributing based on the season's targeted messaging throughout the community.

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In regards to grass scoping's fertilizer leaf litter and septic system maintenance.

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Other efforts continued.

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um We're continuing our enforcement of stormwater, ordinance and use of ptap. Excuse me.

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And we have just hired our third assistant engineer position, which is very exciting.

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This position will focus on stormwater projects. It took a long time to fill this.

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Position almost a year so are very excited to have this person hit the ground running soon.

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And then again we continue to um advocate for septic system programs working with new.

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Hampshire des I will continue through 2023 and our work group meetings for.

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Water pollution, flooding reduction study will continue through 2023.

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Thank you. Our pilot project is the acceptance receiving facility upgrade.

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And that evaluation has concluded and we are moving forward with the construction.

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Which is estimated for the end of 2023 um that to determine that receiving subject.

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Of the headworks did not significantly impact secondary art, tertiary processes in the facility.

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Additional initiatives um we are anticipating our design, but in.

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Construction by the end of 2023 for the sepage facility receiving upgrade.

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Again, that's moving forward and our carbon storage and feed building is progressing.

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Excuse me um it's about 90, complete and will be completed by fall uh by october. Actually,.

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Okay, the aeration automation project is another one that is close to completion.

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um Again by the end of october, that will be moving online sources or master plan is in progress.

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That's an ongoing effort, smoke testing occurred over the summer and we're going to continue.

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On that planning effort um throughout 2023, ultimately working towards a final master plan.

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And I believe we already touched on the nitrogen reduction report. That's an ongoing effort.

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Okay and then I think this is the last page, um the non-point source co-benefits.

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And I think, based on the epa comments, we're going to probably regroup and also collaborate with our.

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Municipal partners on further um working out the estimated reduction for this piece. I know that's.

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Been a challenge on our department with some of these projects um in really honing in on numbers.

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For this, so um we'll continue to work on that reduction. Those reduction columns. I should say.

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Well, thanks katie, we made it through. Thank you, sorry for the coughing in between there.

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Thanks for joining us all right, any questions.

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Okay. Well, then, I think your your last comment um leads really well into uh the pita.

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Progress in year, one report so uh again I talked about this at the beginning of the agenda, but.

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The what we just went through, oh actually, I'm sorry do I do newington or other of you want to.

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Share updates on your nation, reducing sure I I did not bring a report to share with everybody.

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um But we exeter has been working really hard on a number of fronts very similar to what people.

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Have already reported about right, um but right now, probably our our primary focus is in the.

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Salem street area, it's an older neighborhood um with poor, conditioned sewers leaking sewer.

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Laterals we're replacing the sewer mains, we are actually replacing the private sewer services.

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um To the house, we'd have a thousand dollar incentive to.

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Do that for each private property owner and everything above that thing? Okay,.

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um It's including replacing over 50 patch basins with deep sumps yeah. So there's a.

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Lot of vape improvements in that one um fairly tight neighborhood and that work has been going.

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On for the last year, and it will be continuing into the spring of next year- um then similar.

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To that we have our next utility replacement project is going to be in the west side, drive.

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Part of town, which is um again a neighborhood of vintage 1960s that was installed in the very poor.

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um Area adjacent to the exeter adjacent to the little river terrible drainage wax drainage. A lot.

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Of sumps that are sending clean storm water into the sewer system, so we're developing right now.

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It's in design with underwood engineers looking at what could we can provide for alternatives for.

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Drainage, we also have to replace a water main just because it's stacey and it's it's very shallow and.

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We're going to be hitting it and we're also going to be reducing the pavement width of the road.

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Which is almost 40 feet wide? It's one of the it's it's! You can land an airplane in that neighborhood.

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um So that's a great opportunity again. The kind of just reduce the overall dream of.

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Jeans, that's been in design for the we did. Some preliminary study work this past year than the.

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Seventy five thousand dollars from new hampshire, yes, but we're entering the full full-blum design.

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Right now and construction is slated for uh next year, if we can get the warranty spread.

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We're also uh school street will be the next neighborhood again a full utilities project.

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Area, that's kind of the lincoln street uh train station area very congested.

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um Our most impervious neighborhood, if you will it, has the most uh we have the most to game.

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By reducing some of the inflow into that area, so that'll be coming probably three or four years out.

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um We've just awarded construction of the swampscott river sewer cyclins, which were.

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Extremely excited about this has been a real concern for us and we've been holding our breath.

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But we do have a contractor uh that work will be starting in october and um related to that is the.

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Next sewer, shed up of gradient is the webster station. um It takes flow from portsmouth avenue.

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One of our again biggest developed areas and that work is in design right now, so those are are all.

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Great we're also moving forward with another dim feasibility study, which I realize isn't directly.

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Nitrogenous, but it certainly has a huge impact on water quality, um continuing work with dhb, who did.

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Provide us with the great dam removal projects, so we it's a it's a familiar organization and.

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Approach but every project is completely unique and it'll be interesting to see how.

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That controls that work is really going to get going shortly. That's a big talkative! I apologize.

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And that's the next damn upstream from where great dan was in accidents several miles.

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um And then a couple things that are very unique: that might be a little different.

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For exeter art we've been working closely with our town planner to develop ways to encourage.

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In-Build development, rather than expansion, development um just to try and preempt some.

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Of that you know, expansion that goes on um more than it needs to so he's really engaging.

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um With that and I think we're going to see some some traction there in the in the next.

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It takes a while, obviously for the reds to to get in and then find developers who will choose.

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To do that and we have to make sure you have high enough incentives to get that happen.

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We're doing a lot we, I did look at the clean suite program, which I think we've mentioned.

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The name but um looking at how we might be able to modify what would be really appreciating to really.

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Partner, the more targeted approach in the fall and improve our removal efficiencies for nitrogen.

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um We're doing work with through new hampshire, yes, 319 grant monies on a.

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Another alternative in the ministries, sewer shed area um and I have to confess I don't.

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Know what the alternative is, but we've been looking at a lot of basically infiltration.

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um Improvement infiltration gallery we're continuing work on a septic, um promoting.

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Advanced septic treatment, providing an incentive for property owners and we haven't fully fleshed.

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God out, but we're we've been in conversations with the select board and how we might be able.

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To promote that and how we might target it to where we don't necessarily want to promote it.

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Completely timelined, we want to promote it in places where it's in close proximity to water.

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um And I think fertilizer program, it's another area that we've exodus had some good work in the.

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Past and we need to continue uh to to make efforts there and then I think for us ii. Removal is a huge.

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Piece, I think everybody else has mentioned that that may not get as much attention when.

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We talk nitrogen, but it so relates to what plant performance and environmental impacts happen. So.

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um We're we're going to be charging forward in several ways there so.

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A lot of people mentioned it, so clean sweep was actually a project that was initiated by prep.

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There there was some money that durham allocated uh prep to do things without nitrogen around the.

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Great bay, one of those was developing expert elicitation panel, so it could mean a bunch of.

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Experts to look at street sweden credits and what came out of that was a pretty innovative, measured.

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Approach so when we take credits for street sweep now, it's all a model based on area swept.

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And technology used and frequency the measured approach is um and pick it up. You measure how much.

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You pick up and you get credit for it. University of minnesota has done a ton of work on actually.

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Analyzing street sweden collections and we've developed this measured approach and probably.

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A factor of 10 we've seen potential increases in the load reduction from measure to low production.

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Credit, low production, credit yeah about 10 times and it seems to be you know, for operators. It seems.

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To be pretty that they exciting in part is simple: you don't have to deal with the model. If you pick.

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It up, you get credit for it, and so it's really incentivizes cleaner street. So we're going to.

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Be rolling that out thanks to danielle and mel cote from ea, they sent the letter of support for.

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Using the process and experimenting it in the great bay and so we're going to be working that.

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Into ptap, so you know next year, we'll have a new method um so that that's that's pretty exciting.

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And realistically, it's all based on some of the research that usgs has been doing in wisconsin.

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That shows the loading, especially they focus on phosphorus, because they're in wisconsin.

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um But it's the same thing with nitrogen: they find around 70 to 80 percent of the phosphorus.

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Load and same thing for nitrogen, it's very similar trend occurs during the fall. So if you think about.

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The loading it's so disproportionate right now we sweep the streets and there's a load.

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Reduction, you get no matter when you do it, so the emphasis here is: let's, if we're going to.

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Talk target street sweeping we do it in the fall and disproportionately that's where the highest.

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Nutrient movement, so it's kind of innovative that we have this new method and then also we have a.

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Time period for the focus panel, so yeah or what was very important and the reason why community.

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Does it is right yeah, so I'm going to leave that there for the whole season or, if you add a like.

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No we're advocating sweeping- and you know so it's just in the spring that we're not saying don't do.

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It absolutely do it in the spring to pick up your salt and sand, but in the fall there needs to be a.

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Larger emphasis on collecting debris yeah so so yeah that and and some so sweep in the spring.

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Yeah and the issue, the issue with the credits is: there's a reduced credit.

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In the spring and fall because it's so sediment driven so all the characteristics.

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About what you pick up in the spring are very different than in the fall.

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That's exciting.

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All right, okay, my simple plan is running below five. We call them 19 years.

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The town there's like a few catch phases: the highway. Those had been vacuumed out.

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uh They're early spring that have probably never been done in 10 years.

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So for those are done, there's not really any it's a small rural town, 700 people uh that.

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Possibly could be a new development according now, but it's been at. The state is responsible.

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So it's good, though yeah.

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That's right anniversary sweeping yeah. Well, one of my commission is jared committee.

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.Com into those head spaces serves the rural term. They want to mentioned parties.

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We've used, I must I worry about it. I they have fallen into that one of them all about going down.

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You know how much I feel like this, but they do have absolutely the therapy to.

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Our shoulder alliance threats are in doing today, no they're not, and it must work so all.

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Of the redevelopment, all all the redevelopment for assuming they're not granted really first.

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um Is a subject to all of those.

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Rights that are in southeast logical lines that focus on the development and predictions and stuff.

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Like that, so they're poised to have substantial projection based on that and then you're talking.

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About your 14., I have no idea. I've never seen the plan, but I know that there are regulations.

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And then I think for that department.

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Of health successfully had been.

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Getting money did milton, we did wrong yeah right, I mean I don't know about this, but yeah.

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It helps everybody.

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Any interest ing- I don't know what I'm not saying. I turned the camera on stupid, so it's just now.

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That's sounding a little bit better, but.

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Yeah all right.

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And others he's also.

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We still have our training wheels on.

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You are able to trust me to.

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um So somebody has been raising yes, you're, not gonna have time to go through.

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Okay, I just wanted to put that out there. So let's talk about p-town and.

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Everybody I encourage you to really get your communities to input information into detail.

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We've got 15 minutes, 15 minutes, so uh um sorry, james you're up front. The database is working.

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Really well we're always improving it. We just went through a bunch of improvements, um jamie.

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Mccarty's really helped us out um increasing the functionality. Like you said, we've done it to a.

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Point where you can actually look at individual reports. So if you were going through the planning.

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Board at brooks, and you had a project, and you want to verify and validate that a single project met.

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The 80, tss or 90 tss would really matter uh 50 or 60 phosphorus and 50 nitrogen reduction. So you can.

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Do that using the database and it's been set up? I think dover exeter portsmouth have made this part.

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Of their planning process so for new developments, the developer goes in and puts the information.

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So pretty slick, and then you can actually evaluate what they put in.

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um So, where we are now on the municipality side, is we want to get everybody up to the same level.

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So we have people that are crushing it right now and we have people that haven't put anything in.

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So um I think we're here with des to provide the technical assistance. You guys need to get you from.

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Wherever you are to you know: gold, star users, um the benefits of using this is we've pumped.

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Out a report- and we can do this annually- that can basically meet just about all the criteria that at.

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Least, epa was commenting on on dependency. So when we read epa's comments, we're like yeah, we can do.

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This so this year, I think, is, is about um getting people proficient with the use of the database.

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Because the quality of the information into the database dictates the quality of information.

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That you get out so um uh we also just developed a batch import feature. uh So the city of rochester's.

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Consultants reached out to us and said you know: we've got 70 bmps that we want to enter.

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And interim one by one, it takes some time, but we developed a kind of spreadsheet where they.

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Can just fill up the spreadsheet and we can one time batch it into the database. So um you know the.

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The key there is just that the features and the attributes all have to line up with our database.

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So the the import sheet matches the way we track and account for the attribute data in the database.

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So we're going to be, uh I think, rochester's working on that now to get all their stuff in.

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And we'll be working with unh to do it as well. The key here is for the municipalities, your.

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Responsibility is municipal, directed um bmps, so anything that you do on your municipally on land.

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Or and you that includes your non-structural stuff as well, that's you know david, um so uh exeter. You.

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Guys actually have the most things on the database now I think we're measuring right. Oh yeah, that.

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We we have to meet with your team and because one of the things- and this is again a suggestion from.

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Jamie mccarty and portsmouth is we initially, but we've been working on this for about a decade, yeah.

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So not quite a decade, um one of the things that we had multiple meetings on is how do.

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We track projects from planning board through to built because it can change too. You know.

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It's not always that what gets approved in the plan doesn't change by the time.

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It goes in the ground, so we have a lot of classification features in the database and.

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What the the principal function of the town administrator and that's a bad word, it's the.

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Municipal administrator, whoever is managing the inputs in the database from your town.

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What ptap really does is it allows a user authentication so pretty much anybody can get a.

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Permission to put things into the database, they can bend into your town and what your.

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Municipal administrator does is say. Yes, this is a development that we're considering in our town.

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This isn't some kooky. You know russian hacker right because we get probably three or four.

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Of those uh a week uh just you know people trying to get access to the database. The gatekeepers are.

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The municipal uh administrators, so you also have the municipal administrators, are also um have the.

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Responsibility of ushering that project through as it moves through various phases so for exeter you.

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Have a lot in the database and all you really have to do is go through and say this is a project and.

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It was constructed because the database itself only counts things that are constructed, so you.

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Can have things in the database that are planned, that you're tracking and have been approved, but.

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They don't get accounted for them until they're in the ground. So that's that's the key feature.

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I mean it's pretty slick now and thanks to the input of the users and jamie, has helped immensely.

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um To help us come up with this, these feature classes and the classification system, and I.

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Think it works really well, but it does that's your responsibility as the administrator and I.

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Think that's the problem with experts, um you know- and this is something we've just recently changed.

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Too- and I think jen mates had been doing a lot of the work and now we're gonna get um sometimes yeah.

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Oh good, so that's pretty much it in a nutshell. We do have. I passed out this matrix so much like the.

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Matrix sally provided we're just listing like who's putting stuff in um there there's some.

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Communities that are doing really good on the structural controls and they haven't entered.

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The non-structural the non-structural you'd, have to do every year because so it's possible that.

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You're street sweeping is aimed every year, but you just have to renew it. You know especially.

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As many of you look at enhancing sweeping efforts, you know you'll put new data in and move that into.

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Once it's completed, move that into um approved and constructed that's pretty much it there's.

D

Also a lot of things in the database as we have all these users there's things that we noticed.

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um Particularly about external data inputters, like consultants that might be doing a development, they.

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You know there's some features that are really important. If you don't select the bmp type.

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We can't give you credit: if you don't select a design storage volume. You can't give you credit.

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And so some of the errors and and I'll send the files out. We we've tracked: everybody that's put.

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Data into the database and we've identified what the major issues are. You know whether it's your.

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Classification system or whether you need to put an infiltration rate in for an infiltration yeah.

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What we did after responding to all the inputs is we actually hardwired that feature.

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To any infiltration system that you selected infiltration bmp, yet the database requires you.

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To put in the filtration rate, so you know over time as we advance this we're also improving.

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On the programming side and with unh um research computing center right now we have a real wizard.

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Who is just on top of all this for us? So he's he's actually a nationally ranked chess player and it's.

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Just it's he's, so it's so fun to work with, because we ask for something and he doesn't so it's it's a.

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Great time to you know be trying to break the system too, and giving us feedback to hey this.

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Doesn't work um because aaron dame is, is the guy and he's very responsive? So I it's. It's really.

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Good news and it's fun things happening uh the one thing. The last thing I'll touch on, I think, is.

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um uh In the back of your report, is the land used to change tracking that we have developed.

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A reporting function in actual ppap, so we've removed this from the municipal administrators.

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They can't do that, but we felt that this is what we'll do annually for you. There's facts.

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And land use change in your community over time, and it gives you a rough idea of your efforts to.

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Date, so when you look at the language change table the one thing we go back, we go back to.

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The business exeter and again we just have to get in and classify everything the effective.

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Impervious cover is really what is tracking um what you're doing with the existing impervious.

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And having your community, that should be a negative number so for dover, it's like.

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Negative 70s, they have collectively disconnected 70 acres of in-purchase. So the you know we we.

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Do a very simple calculation of what that means for nitrogen load, but it's just a it's a simple.

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Calculation- and it gives you an idea of so what this report does. Is it separates I'll pick out.

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Durham has some entries it's all associated with basically riverwoods, that they've been.

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Determines the big um uh community center, um and that is a new development that took uh like 16.

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Acres of forest and turned it into 10 acres of impervious, and you know, 14 and a half acres of.

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Commercial landings or institutional land use so that obviously has a big negative on the nitrogen.

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Load than what they they do is they're accounting for treatment of that area. So all the impervious.

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Cover that was associated with that development is going through appropriately sized and excited.

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Stormwater control measures and that's what we're accounting for the ptap land use report shows that.

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They really haven't produced any effective impervious cover and we know they have. They.

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Just haven't integrated in the database, so unh has done a lot and we'll be working with unh.

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um To get their stuff, so those numbers will change. uh Finally, on land use change because.

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I had mentioned that that the feature classes of how we track land use change are numerous.

D

And, depending on what land use data set you use, they could be different, and this is one of the.

D

Things so you know, databases don't always talk to themselves, because the way we classify land.

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Use is different than the way the fact does it and we're now working with epa and epa or rd to test.

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um Hydrologic response unit modeling for um for the great bay- and this is something we've done.

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With hotspot maps all right um at that level, we can easily track long-term land use change over.

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Time and that's really where we'd like to be so we're really in conversations now and epa, I think.

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Has been amenable to helping between des and epa and unh, we will be working to track long-term land.

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Use change over time within a five-year income. Basically, as an improvised coverage, layer gets.

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Updated and that's what we key into, because you know right now: we're experimenting with.

D

The nlcd data set, which is a very coarse land use classification, that's updated. I think every 40.

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Years by you know and that somehow more reliable, sometimes than what we get because for that last.

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Land use uh classification we have is 2015 and we have yet to see the new classifications come.

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But that's something that's orchestrated by the planning commissions. So uh suffice it to say we.

D

Really think that the best way to focus on land exchange is that the regional js level, and that.

D

Also allows you, as a municipality, to really focus on nitrogen productions and focus on the work.

D

That we all have ahead and that you all talked about today, so um I think with all that said, we.

D

Hit almost every target in um the response from epn, yes, yep great student, less than 15 minutes.

D

Well, I think this. This is largely that you know ted was kind of our our long-term.

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Champion- and he made all of us have in 10 years, so yes um and sally, of course, yeah.

D

And for those of you, who've been involved with ptap, it's kind of a proud moment, because, where.

D

We started in 2015, you know the world long, lonely well and I think a big takeaways. I think you're.

A

Learning is so much more now that people are doing stuff yeah, because it's like okay, I think jamie.

A

The party gets a few yeah, just making it more functional and it, and it still is going through.

A

Those broken things. That's okay, um I think you've got some data here to share all right. Everyone has.

A

Got to make sure we we have opportunities for sally and jamie to go meet with the planners.

A

The whomever in these smaller communities, unfortunately, I don't have a lot of them on, but.

A

Call today, but uh and make sure that that stuff's getting implemented um yeah and it's pretty easy.

D

Like you know, dover we talked the other day and you had the same problem with that classification.

D

We got it done in and out that's right. So that's right! It wasn't difficult yeah. I would just say.

E

If you know, as you post this and stuff just it's all footnoted that you know it's draft.

E

It's working progress. It's it's really just to get it out there to help us. You know to continue the.

E

Dialogue and feedback on improving it, because one one thing we are looking at you know is, as.

E

You look to the stormwall utility, are you know potential credits, and so you know, how do you do.

E

Assign credits and to what you know, someone puts a rain garden in or you know how much are they.

E

Going to get I mean, I think, we're really feeling like okay p-tap would be the method whereby they.

E

Submit through that and if it's approved through there, then you know they would get. um Let's talk.

D

About that just a little, because my intention is um that will produce these report annual reports.

D

For you and provide them to you, and that will be like an annual effort that will do mining data.

D

From the database, my recommendation is this data that also I've already said to jamie and gretchen.

D

um Will send it out and maybe you post it on your website with those caveats, so I would rather you.

D

Be in control of how this data is used and me because realistically, if you tell me that you.

D

Don't you know if you told me, you didn't, want this data out. I I respect that is this. Is your.

D

Effort and how that your efforts get portrayed for me, it's a math problem, yep um and then I.

D

Would rather you deal with the political problem if there is no aspects there shouldn't be? I mean.

D

Is all good stuff, but I don't want to wade into you know telling your community how you should use.

D

The data I will help you with the math and jamie is the is this summary: are these reports all of.

H

The all of the projects that are at the what is it approved and constructed and constructed uh status.

H

For all time, up until whatever beat you pulled it, so that is the elephant in the room. It's.

D

Associated sorry, no, it's associated with long-term operation and maintenance right now, there's no.

D

Sunset, structural credits, meaning you put a bnp in the ground, you get credit and perpetuity for.

D

Right now, I fully expect, as we build this out, that there will be a like. Maybe it's a five-year.

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Sunset or what a sunset on your structural credits that gets renewed once you click.

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The box and verify operation and maintenance, so I imagine that that will be a really good.

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Add-On and an ability to track operation and maintenance. Realistically, you know where the.

D

Training wheels are on we, let's, let's get good at getting the data in and so far there's been no.

D

Decision like that and this, whether you're doing it in ptap or anything else, you've built the bmp.

D

You get credit forever and that's and there's no there's no filtration of. Is it a a municipal, bmp.

H

Or something that was installed on a private site through site development, it's just anything. That's.

H

In the ptap system for our municipality right yeah- and we are tracking information about who owns it,.

D

um But right you know until so there's a lot of helpful right and there's a lot of cool things.

D

That you can do we're tracking all kinds of information. The key is what's important.

D

That's right, and so again I think the emphasis is about. Let's get good data in, let's get it into our.

D

um Planning, actually, you know planning, um I guess, approach so that people are helping you put stuff.

D

In and then once we all get proficient, we can start to explore like how the house, with that.

H

Yeah because you know if, if we start collecting inspection and maintenance reports for old bmps.

H

Then maybe we should then that would be. You know a reason to then put it into ptap, because we know.

H

That that that particular bmp, even though it was installed 10 15 years ago, was still in.

H

Good functioning condition and honestly for for dover, who we work with and portsmouth.

D

We've had they've been part of a student uh project that our senior um our senior would.

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Do and we've been doing just that, putting dnps in the database. This is something I think we.

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Have to talk and open the conversation with epa about what my recommendation to them is that we.

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um Focus on bnps from 2010 forward and I'll. Tell you why? It's because that's when, whenever.

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We started to talk about baseline baseline was originally developed by the 2014 giveness and back.

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To 2010 data set so basically anything beyond 2010, it doesn't mean that you're gonna get not gonna.

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Get credit for it, but it's part of the baseline and so focusing on 2010 moving forward. What we.

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Did is we developed a four-step visual indicators that the students did and it was really effective.

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They went there, they say: can water get in and water get out? Is there any visible evidence.

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That the system is not performing and that's how we validated function into the database so.

D

You know portsmouth exeter, dover rochester, the communities that have done a lot of work already.

D

um Unh, let's get it into the database and get credit for it um for like a rollins, for I think.

D

They should start fresh, I don't know, I don't you know, the question is, is it worth the time.

D

And effort to bring that stuff up, it might be, it's really something uh you know they need to.

D

Consider whether they have the resources to do this type of effort go out, there inspect.

D

Yeah, so that's the other cool thing. It kind of answers these long-term questions that.

D

We really haven't even thought about yet you know and you might have thought about.

D

Like when does this credit sunset, but you know, I think, that's something in the future.

H

um Is it going to mess things up if we start putting stuff in that's older than 2010 just.

H

Because we want to use ptap to track these bnps out out in the world. I can't speak for epa, but.

D

I actually like the effort, because what we realize with our students, as they had eyes on these things,.

D

That might not have been cut for years and they were able to tell both portsmouth and dover. It's.

D

Like you've got to send someone out to maintain it, oh yeah, that's awesome, I totally agree and that.

A

Also pulls into that 319 project. We were talking about where we've got these old. What detention.

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Ponds that really weren't doing water quality. What are they doing now we're looking at it.

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I think that's how you start. I look at it as a net benefit, but again these are questions that.

D

We really haven't even talked about as a group. None of this has really even come out in the.

D

Ptap we've been focused on how do we, how do we link it? How do we make it work, yeah.

H

But yeah, but now that it's working yeah it's a valuable tool for a bunch of other things. I think.

D

Because it jamie you're going back to uh 20, uh 2004 bnp and you go through this visual checklist.

D

um You know that's a move in the right direction: right, yeah,.

D

Amen, so I I um I would so talking about the dashboard which we've talked about a number.

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Of times the information that we've received from vtap, along with some other information.

A

About you know, land conservation, but for the most part, we're going to focus on nitrogen.

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Phosphorus tss land conservation and what was so just one more that we talked about. um But yes,.

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But no yeah, I mean you can charge that, but we were going to kind of keep it simple. Just like the but.

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Just like the p-tap put this into the database with all sorts of caveats that it's as good as the.

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Information that we received, and not necessarily fully um representative of everything happening.

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And- and you know, we're gonna put that out there that'll be a tool that you'll be able. It's very.

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Simple: it's not going to be a full report, just to be five things based on math. You know showing.

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Good progress and we're going to be able to start showing progress, and you can bring that to your.

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You know your your community to your city, councilors or whoever you want to bring that.

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Chair with, I think, that's something else that you've been looking for and hopefully, as we keep.

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Going that information is going to become more and more useful and we can keep building up as.

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um As if, as we see, it makes sense- and I just want to pick up our usefulness of the data and.

C

Sort of uh sharing it with our you know, elected officials and looking to get that buy-in in terms.

C

Of projects, I also like the fact that you know very clearly: you have the the sediment removal as.

C

Well, because that is a big factor to talk about, we get some real bang for the vodka. You know.

C

Sometimes the nitrogen numbers seem low, but there is this other water quality benefit, but certainly.

C

When we get those bigger storm events as we're getting now, both that that's a real value from.

C

My understanding of our water quality impact, so the fact that you've got to report with both on.

C

There, I think, is really helpful if we take it to our governing bodies and and are looking for that.

C

Money and that buy-in to do continue to do these projects, so I appreciate it and I'll just add just.

D

To put a teaser out there, as we're talking about you, know things, the metrics that we're using are.

D

Consistent with the everything in appendix they had a sport program and because it's consistent.

D

And it's gone all the same way. We also have access to bacteria removal. We have access to zinc if you.

D

Have access to costs so you know again, as we start to build out, we can add those features and because.

D

We're cracking the information and if a emergent pollutant comes up or contaminant, that we really.

D

Want to start to track since we're doing you know we would work with epa to develop those credits.

D

um And you know so that's the benefit of all doing it. The same way yeah.

A

um Adaptively they listen.

A

Well, thank you jimmy. That is awesome. um Well right. Let me open it up. um Stakeholder comment. Yeah.

B

So we did have a meeting at the stakeholder committee, uh uh the team members that were able.

B

To join, um and it was very, um very interesting to have people from communities who are not living.

B

And reading this stuff uh every day trying to make sense of what the heck is going on here.

A

um And I will I wanted to share with you a few questions that came up right and I, if you want.

A

To try to explain, but I think it's more important for you to hear questions that people are asking.

A

um Some of which I think is, will be greatly enhanced by.

A

Some as much of what has been discussed here today, which has happened and other things but.

B

Okay, one of the questions: how are community to county pervert and then for new development.

A

And um you know people community members are looking around. You have reports and directions.

B

You're, seeing a lot of rapid growth, especially what the family housing so there's you know.

B

Increases at the wastewater facilities as a result of the growth there's also, of course,.

B

Site changes that um you know storm water impact, so you know the question: are we really reducing.

B

Or just slowing the rate of increase and that, I think, is really really great question and.

C

You know when you see negative numbers like negative numbers, for you know.

B

Disconnected impervious or whatever that's an answer to that question, but just you know.

B

Our and maybe the dashboard can try to illuminate some of this, that we're just reducing the rate.

B

Of increase, or are we actually reducing it and against what baseline yeah so that.

B

That's one big question and that's sort of related: what are the municipalities doing? That is new as.

B

A result of this permanent, you know so a lot of what's reported out on the spreadsheets.

B

This stuff that was already in the pipeline, it was a part of your capital improvement.

B

Programs, what what is happening that wasn't already happening, um and so.

B

You know a question: there was some. I think rochester reported that they've done a hotspot map.

B

um I think portsmouth has done that as well. You know.

A

How is that illuminating, where activity is so like what time frame like this permit cycle, the.

B

General permit yeah, what's your question mark? Well, what what have we done? New, I mean portsmouth. We.

E

We created the storm water division, so that's huge yeah. You know I was just wondering yeah.

A

To know from just looking at the spreadsheets, you know that.

B

These were this, wasn't something that was kind of already happening, but is.

B

Happening in response yeah- and I think it was very helpful- it's an outreach.

D

um Challenging for us- because I have talked about this- there are different people that want to hear.

A

Different things, and so some people want to hear they do not. Oh it's not this crazy on them.

A

Being fiscally concerned, whatever we are during work, we are taking improvements with something.

A

Framework not just follows the same costs, but there are certainly like a storm on our vision and.

A

Like over for anything so mask, there are different people that want to hear different things, and so.

A

Well, I think it's yeah it's sort of in part again, driven by a lot of reporting in the spreadsheets.

A

On you know these projects that were in the pipeline, you know a long time since and you know.

I

So would this have happened whether we've had this department or not have this permit? You know so.

I

um Do you have any municipal representatives at the stakeholders.

E

No okay! That may be that when you do the next round, maybe it would be useful because then.

C

We might be able to help explain some of that. So just know if that's helpful.

C

You let us know, and I think we would find that you know stakeholders committee members to join the.

B

Man meetings but but when I hear a question like that, that's a sounding board for your: how you're.

D

Perceived yes and how you so I don't think the answer. Is you need to convince that person that.

D

Came up with that question, that's a blind spot. I think something that we have to work on to.

B

Demonstrate precisely and that's why I think it's, I think it's good for you just to hear them. Yeah.

B

And I'm not I'm not I'm not trying to explain it to them every single, either thing or pretend I you.

B

Know represent municipalities, but but to share what it is that people kind of fundamentally.

A

Care about and are concerned about and how this process can help to answer some of these questions.

A

um uh There was questions about you know: do they look at again they're going based on the.

B

Information they're provided so they see, like you, know, a seven million dollar project in rochester.

B

That's producing six and a half pounds of nitrogen and asking. Why is you know or and then a you know.

B

Another project in portsmouth or somewhere else, where you know you're getting 75 pounds and.

A

126 pounds you know and of course, they're not apples to apples and they understand that. But.

B

How is it that a project- that's you know it's a full road reconstruction that's listed here.

B

As part of the you know, nitrogen control permit is doing, you know, has such limited. You know so.

A

What are the water quality units? What are the treatment systems that are sort of incorporated.

B

Into those projects that are producing, such as relatively small kind of net, gain that those are.

A

Questions that perhaps and again I don't know the details of what's going on in each of these.

B

um Projects so I couldn't really answer the question, but um are you able to send these.

A

Questions to me, I can do that yeah and I know we're running up against time. So I just um well.

J

You know, then, again broadly, they were reading three of the municipalities and men are doing.

C

Wondering what are the other four communities doing since they're not required to report and.

B

um And then, of course, well one of the other five pounds doing that aren't even part of ma'am. You.

A

Know so you know when they're thinking about is this permit actually moving the needle? How.

C

Do we know- and I think that is like the 19 billion dollar question- all right right so.

B

um And again, maybe the dashboard will help maybe more communities.

A

Participating in this process would help um and then, of course, epa I know, is reaching.

B

Out to the non-man communities, but you know again just thinking holistically.

I

And I think that's kind of where some of these community members are coming from.

A

um I would say those are: there were any other questions and discussions, but I think.

I

Goes for um probably the high level questions that I wanted to share with you all thanks.

I

C

Very cool, any other comments. Yeah, one of the other questions that's been taught is that.

A

Everybody's talking about you know advocated for state rights versus the fertilizers.

A

Questions are the newspapers actually advocating for those? I.

B

Say we want to see that if that was the question um and uh again I have um no that's awesome. If.

A

You send those because I like have answers to all of those, so um that would be great and I'll. Just.

A

Touch on that under other businesses, so public comment all right awesome. So just I know we.

A

Have a lot of times, though, for one minute: first, I'm sorry that you have me and not someone more.

A

Knowledgeable on my parents like now or I'll, do my best so really quickly from ppa's lens.

A

um It's very exciting to be there today, it's really exciting to hear all these different projects. I love to hear that storm water is bleeding into everyday lane and we're doing.

A

This project, how worried about storm water, that's so exciting, exactly how stormwater management.

A

Needs to be seen as something just part of your project planning process and that's awesome.

A

um You know the general permit was in its kind of large stage, and now it's kind of going into.

A

Gymnast or the end of year in some fish terms, so you know the key time as a tool for you all.

A

To track what we want to do in five years is to you know, understand as a benchmark how you're.

A

Getting credits on nitro construction? So if you even look at it as a you know, overall, this is.

A

How it went in in some cases, maybe the wishart I shouldn't find, is gonna, be you know the keys. You.

A

Ask effects of how you achieve united directions, but we also want you to be able to get credit.

A

For strings or all of these other projects that they're doing so psat is a tool built perhaps.

A

Before a purpose, but now it has a purpose and that um report that you get as an annual report.

A

Is everything that you need to see? So one of the you know bullet points of our comments. We'd really.

A

Like to streamline the process so that, with the end of the year, you're not doing any redundant.

A

Work to tell us what we need to do. You already have everything that you at your fingertips.

A

um The you know the you're welcome to give this anything you want, but the lists right now.

A

Are a bit babe on bmts, with the with the power of ptap? Is it's sort of looking at.

A

Okay, this was the project and they put in an infiltration basin of this size.

A

And the I think another power of feature is everybody's. On the same page, we know.

A

How those credits are being calculated and everybody's is being calculated, so you're.

A

All being compared so all of those things you know as much as I can encourage you.

A

Use these app is open source software, it's free for you all to use. There's.

A

Technical assistance for you to tap into so we really encourage that because we're also.

A

Going to make everything easier when we go to reission again um and thank you very much.

A

um And yeah, that's I think. Overall, it's really exciting. I'm really.

A

Excited about the work- and uh you all are needing job thanks.

I

I don't think no, I know thank you very much.

A

All right, any other public comments. Okay, other business we've talked about.

A

This uh we've got this letter from epa we've. Also, I'm gonna hopefully get some.

A

um In writing their comments from the stakeholder committee and I'd like to do if we think this is.

A

Appropriate a subcommittee similar to what we do in our secret stormwater coalition and compile a.

A

Response so they, I truly believe that we've got good answers to all of this stuff and um and.

A

Then potentially start looking at how the feed the output from ptap, if it needs to be adjusted at all.

A

um How that's adjusted potentially look at digesting our annual report forecasting.

A

um Making sure we're doing that so do we think a subcommittee is a good way to do that.

A

Yeah and who wants to be on the subcommittee.

A

Okay, I know it's always jamie and me, let's, of course I'm going to talk about it because okay.

C

Filling in some gaps, but this is important and I think if we streamline the reporting it's going.

C

To help with the education, at least that will assist looking for in his as her the stakeholders.

C

um We'll talk partners, you know I've got to be careful. What I promise.

I

um But I I know it's important and definitely you know just because we don't we hadn't done the same.

I

Recording format I we want to make sure that it's getting out there and so I've got to talk.

I

With existing- and we just didn't know how we've been participated- perfect, all right, cool, we'll.

A

um Reach out to me about some committee um and then, let's you know I'd like to.

A

Make a goal of our january update, which is our six-month update. That would, if we read.

A

The letter you'll see epa has encouraged us to move our submission to september october. One.

A

Which is exactly what we want right in line with ms4 everything seems perfect. I still.

A

Say we keep january february is our goal for a mid-year check-in and at that point.

A

I'd like to be able to sort of review and make a path for the second half of the year.

A

What we're going to do with the annual report that we submitted in july? It was.

A

Didn't have all of these are things that their times were off trading wheels. I.

A

Think you're getting better and better I'm happy, but what we're doing right now so cool.

H

uh Katie's got a hand up, I'm not sure. Oh yeah, hey canadian, sorry thanks jim.

B

um I'll uh just figured I'd, bring it up.

I

I just wanted to add the exodus did I received our new individual permits.

I

um And um the general apartment- okay, so that is effective with our november reporting it'll.

I

Be our first month that we're reporting in um with our new individual or magnificence.

I

um I do want to follow up with you here to make sure that that's the correct.

I

Assumption I don't like making the subjects, but um I that's my understanding. Would that.

A

Change for how you funded participant funding participation, so we're right in the middle. We.

I

And I've got to get what's cable because we haven't paid our 2022 dollar amounts into.

I

um It's we have, it just haven't, had the check now that we're part of um the permit, that was one of.

I

Our things that we, let's just get a command right here, yeah all right cool, so we'll figure that out.

A

But that'll our next meeting will start looking at um budgeting. So that'll be a good question.

A

And we, you know, always figured that by 2023 it was going to be two yeah, so this year was just.

I

Kind of a transition here, awesome yeah: when is the next meeting? That's that's a great topic.

A

A conversation when do, um I would say, end of october early november, that'll, give us.

A

Time to talk about budget and then vote on that budget in december, so so they will get some dates.

A

At that november, 3rd as a possibility.

C

You know for me, I always designate someone else, maybe so.

A

I was, I can't do the 27., I don't know.

A

If the third works for everyone else said, if I'm not here, I didn't tell me.

A

Okay, you sure yeah, okay, there's a bunch of us are doing that building.

A

Support for storm water, which is, I think, would be a meeting every day.

A

November 3rd.

A

um From in the 10 to noon, work all right, anyone want to host.

D

S do it here, we'll just move around. You want to do 410.

A

You know you're good.

A

From 10 to noon and then we'll just let you guys, you guys, can.

A

Figure out what room or whatever you want to do um all right, cool.

B

Then with that, so I had a quick question: if we have a second and if I don't get kicked off.

G

Again, I'm sorry yeah, no you're good, um so we've received the second and final invoice for the year.

G

From prep for monitoring activities and the uh 60 000 turbidity, synthesis task is included in that.

G

um My understanding is that the scope on that has changed a little bit.

G

um The initial scope was our original intent was to perform an evaluation of historical data and.

G

Gap analysis without actual field work or data collection um and ultimately, what's been brought.

G

Forward in coordination with brandon caldwell is to utilize some of the funds for some field work.

G

um That was conducted by a researcher named at sushi matsuoka, um so they're looking to.

G

Have about 34 000 of that go towards this field work um and also address the original intent so.

G

My question to the group is and moving forward as fiscal agent. If we um have an invoice come.

G

Forward that is outside of the scope or a little bit different than what was voted on when we.

G

Approve the budget, uh would you like me to bring that back for a vote before we process payment or.

G

Would you prefer that we have brown and caldwell weigh in and if brianna caldwell signs off, then we.

G

Process, but just wanted to get some direction on moving forward. In the event this happens again, I.

A

Think what we're talking about a third I think, if we're, I almost, I don't feel like purchasing agent.

A

If it's a thousand dollars, probably we can do it administratively, but where we're talking about.

A

A thirty thousand dollar education back to the executive committee to the executive committee, yep.

A

Yeah, it needs to be expedited, we can do it electronically, we don't have to physically.

I

um And be present, but we could we can if it needs to be handled administrative, but.

I

We should be able to do it. um Electronically has one personal committee, thirty thousand.

C

A lot just completely signing offense, but yeah. That's why I'm suggestion the reason we designed.

C

An executive committee is so we could quickly produce to respond to invoices notice. A meeting.

E

Like next year I mean I don't have a problem, no, no! It's within it's within the budget. There's.

A

No, a different, no additional budget; it's just a new adjustments: okay, okay, I, which I don't. I think.

A

Certainly needs to be written and approved, but um I think that needs it or we could do it now.

C

I mean that what was that right now I mean it has clifton signed off on this. You know.

C

Yeah I mean it looked and signed off. I know sportsman would support that as long as it's within the you.

C

Know the intent of doing network and it's just been adjusted in the skills because we've been.

C

Relying on the expertise of brown caldwell to help us define the scope and make sure that.

C

We're going to get the environmental benefit that we're looking for the dollars are spent.

C

So, if looked and stood with that adjustment- and still I know, enforcement would be good. So if we.

C

Want to handle it right now, I certainly it would make sense to me if his background caldwell has.

C

Said yes, this is an adjustment of the scope of work that we would support and we're not actually.

C

Appropriating more money, we're simply changing the scope of work.

A

A

um The the thought is that we could do it with the executive or we could do it.

C

Right now in the future, but right now, if we could do it right now, that would be awesome.

A

I agree, so are you able to uh flip it so flipped in or brown and caldwell is supported. The scope.

C

Of report change correct, yes, correct, then I I make a motion to approve the release of the funds for.

C

This adjusted school board all right motion by suzanne second, by dennis any further discussion.

A

All right we'll call vote uh gretchen young, yes ben smith's here, yes, uh jennifer perry, yes,.

A

um Suzanne woodland, yes and katie, ambrose, yes, awesome thanks everyone good work! Thank you.

F

Well, I thought it was out.

J

Right, but I think it is very important moving forward when those things do.

I

Come up that the executive committee has the opportunity to get input from brown.

I

And pablo or anybody else, but that we made the physical decision yeah.

A

A

A

And suzanne, yes, thank you, everyone, thank you, don't worry about it. Thank you. Thank you.

C