City of Portsmouth, New Hampshire Parking and Traffic Safety Committee, 7 Jul 2022

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7.7.2022 Parking and Traffic Safety Committee

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We're going to start using the new york july, 7th parking traffic and safety meeting.

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And we do a roll call. That's uh mary lou mccoy here, steve pesci here, mark syracusa.

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Here, harold whitehouse here, erica wyconnick is not uh uh police. Captain maloney here.

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Assistant fire chief bill mcquillen here, uh director rice, no karen, no and chairman bagley,.

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Here: okay, all right so first on the agenda is the financial report.

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Yeah, mr chairman, uh after reviewing the financial report,.

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I like what I'm seeing and I move that we accept it as presented I'll. Second, that.

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I'll show it to you I'll, just let you see I can get it up on.

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The screen first and then we'll take a vote all right there. We go all right.

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So I can speak to it, I mean, as you can see, we've got one month left in the year, we're at 109.

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Of our budget so we're doing better than uh our conservative budget for the year so.

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Pleased to say that and um looking forward to a strong summer, even though we do have.

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Anticipation of loss of 300 spaces in hanover, so good report. Excellent, and uh I guess we.

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Can do it just a regular vote, so you have nobody online. So all those in favor aye aye any opposed.

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All right next on the agenda is public comment.

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So just come up to one of the microphones and speak and give your name and address. Please.

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Good morning, chairman.

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Good morning board and committee, my name is uh carl diemer. I live at 337 aldridge road.

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And I've been before the committee before uh numerous times over the past 30 years.

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And I'm here today to discuss the ongoing need for.

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Some sort of uh you know follow-up to what we did.

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uh Last year on elders, road at boss and uh aldridge, where the city had put a uh speed.

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Table in on that end, and uh welcome back eric good to see you again, um the the the ongoing issue is.

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uh On the other end of the street- and we haven't really addressed that.

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And I'm sorry peter's not here, because I think last meeting it was supposed to be in.

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This uh this spring and summer, we were supposed to put additional speed, humps bumps or some sort of.

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Some sort of obstacle that would slow down the uh traffic on aldo's road, it is getting.

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uh Really bad uh over the past five years, I've noticed uh and observed pedestrian traffic has.

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Actually, doubled on that road with the additional apartment buildings and things like that, they've.

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Been put in the area over at the hannaford plaza also at the west end, we have a lot of walkers a.

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Lot of dogs a lot of bikes, a lot of activity going on in that neighborhood, because it's desirable to.

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Walk through and people really enjoy it. However, we still have an issue with the speeding. You know.

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You'll see people from out of state, you see people in state, uh you just you know really.

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Flying down the road, it's a real issue. On several several occasions. I've had to go out in the street.

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And try to slow people down it's ridiculous. I mean it's getting to a point where um you know.

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Sometimes we'll try to park cars out there to slow them down um and uh you know uh try to get.

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People to uh you know just to you know, slow down completely and uh you'll see uh coming over to the.

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Hill towards izzington street at school, uh they're, they're doing they're doing anywhere between 35 40.

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45 miles an hour now eric, I know you've uh in the past, done plenty of studies on the other end, but.

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uh On our end, I I we haven't, we haven't really, I don't think done a due diligence on that end uh as.

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Well, as any signage or the speed signs on on that end, I know we've had a permanent one down at.

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Down the other end of alders road near the speed table, which is I've been pretty.

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Effective because I've observed a lot of people they slow down, they see how fast they're going.

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And then they remain going slow to middle street and that's been working.

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And I see that uh on the opposite end of it, though, going this way, they'll speed up the hill.

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And then try to get into work or whatever they're trying to go, and the speed is very, very excessive.

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uh You know, and we really uh uh haven't, had any type of patrols on that end of the road.

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You know uh doing any type of uh work as far as speed enforcement and it's I know it's hard to.

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Do at that end of the road uh to put you know uh a patrol there, but I would uh guarantee you.

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uh And you know- and I know captain maloney and I've known captain only for a long time.

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He's made many many many attempts to try to offer support and patrols in that area. To you.

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Know slow down the speeders, but you know again, I think that's been a temporary, a temporary fix.

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uh It's been effective when you are there, but as soon as we're not there, uh it goes away.

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And um and I'm speaking for you know, uh you know instead of filling up this room with uh 15 or 20.

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Neighbors, uh I just wanted to go ahead and let you know that everybody on that end of the road.

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All the way down halfway to the road is just not up not happy about the speed situation going on.

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There I've presented uh surveys, I was with uh counselor lombardi last year and we provided.

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The names of all the people that were in support of doing something on that road and uh everybody's.

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Still in that same support- um and uh I know that this goes back- it was voted on in 2014 to do.

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Something with those with that road completely and still hasn't been done. The project's not finished.

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So I'm asking uh the committee uh to you know expedite correcting the situation on aldo's road.

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It needs to be taken care of it's just it. It's really out of control.

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uh I know the schools are out right now, but I can tell you even the buses have a hard time.

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Dropping those kids off I know on they drop off on school in the corner of sewell and aldridge.

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And I have to see the parents, they actually guide- god, the children.

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Emptying out of the bus to cut across others because they come over the hill so fast.

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That they're afraid you know the one of the kids are going to get hit. So I just you know.

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We've talked about this for many many many years. uh You know uh going way back, and I remember this.

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From you know even 28 years ago, bringing this up it's it's time to do something about it um and.

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It's I I wish the committee would go ahead and uh take action on this and address it, so we can.

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Find finalize have some finality in this uh in this situation, the problem that we have.

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So I appreciate your consideration and time uh I'm certainly willing to answer any questions.

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You might have or uh things that I've I've experienced on aldo's road for I've lived.

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There, for you know well over 30 36 years, so appreciate it. Alright, thank you. Kyle.

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Are there any other public speakers.

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Good morning, mr chairman committee members, my name is jim lee. I live at.

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520 sagamore avenue in portsmouth hi, harold good, to see you out. Thank you I'd like to miss you.

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Later draw the microphone microphone. Okay! Is that better? Okay, I'd like to bring to your attention.

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What I, in my opinion, is a dangerous and ongoing situation on miller avenue caused by a couple.

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Of residents that insist on parking in the northbound lane of miller, avenue close to.

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The close to the intersection of south street- my wife has lived here for about 40 years and her.

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She said that she's hardly ever seen anybody parked there, except in the last couple of years.

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There's one particular household that has a little utility trailer that he.

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Routinely parks out there and sometimes a van and then there's one house past, that where.

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Somebody there's a car there pretty often over the weekend, but it blocks the northbound side of.

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Miller avenue that close to the intersection cars are forced to drive out into the oncoming traffic.

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Lane, which is a hazard, it's also a hazard if the police and fire department or an ambulance, has to.

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Go down there in an emergency situation, they have to make that detour and dodge and go in.

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Traffic, I've actually talked to a policeman about that recently and he said because there's a sign.

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There that says, no no parking from here to corner, which is about two houses from the intersection.

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That was interpreted as giving the resident the right to park on the street there, which I think is.

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Is not only wrong it's dangerous! Last earlier this year there was, there was an accident there, and I.

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Was talking to the neighbor that was backing out of his driveway on the opposite side of the street?.

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And he said, while his attention was focused on trying to maneuver around the trailer, that was.

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Parked in the middle of the road, he didn't see an oncoming car and ran into it or it.

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Ran into him, somebody ran into anybody, but anyway that was the uh the contributing.

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Factor to an accident there and I think for for public safety, you should consider making that.

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No parking there there's plenty of room, there's plenty of room in the driveway. The gentleman that.

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Has a trailer, I see it in the driveway in his yard multiple times, except when he chooses to.

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Put it out in the street and then the joining house there's a car that parks in the road there.

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Sometimes, on weekends, with main license plates, I don't know but again in that driveway.

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All those houses there have huge driveways, so there's plenty of room for people to park there.

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So I would, you know, ask you, did you look into that situation and.

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Take some action if you think it's warranted, so thank you for your time.

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Thank you, jim go ahead coffee and I just have one more yep just to the microphone. Please.

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um I just wanted to go ahead and see as far as maybe a quick fix it might.

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Be something captain maloney can help us out with uh is to uh maybe dispatch patrol.

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uh For speed enforcement, you know somewhere in the 300 uh right around 300 alders road, because.

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You will find out very quickly when they're coming over the hill. If you park down our end.

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And you park right in front of like 306 facing the hill, you will keep an officer very, very busy.

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With uh infractions, you know, that'll happen, yeah stuff, like that, so uh that might be a.

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Just an immediate thing just to get everybody be aware, you know, and I know that uh the city's.

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Done a very good job of speed enforcement around the city in different roads, but we.

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Just haven't seen anybody, you know this summer and I know that they're spread a little thin, but.

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Appreciate anything, maybe that could do yeah all right sure, thanks thanks carl.

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And I believe we have someone on zoom or did, but they put their hand back down if.

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If you're out there on zoom and you'd like to speak, please just raise your virtual hand.

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And uh go ahead, stephen sir, we may ask jim a follow-up question to his comment. Yes, jim just.

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So I understand what you're suggesting is that we look at no parking on miller, avenue consistently.

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You know is that what you're that that's? The only place people park on miller, avenue.

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Okay and I've I've been observing out there for about 11 years, so, okay and again, because it's so.

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Close to the intersection, it just creates a dangerous situation for everybody and.

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As I said, as police or fire have to make an emergency run through there going south of.

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Miller avenue they have to drive around that trailer whatever's in the middle of the road.

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And face oncoming traffic. So thank you all right with that. I'm going to close the public comment.

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And uh we don't have any presentations this month, so we'll go on to new business and.

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Market street requests for crosswalk between deer street and hanover street.

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By business owner sample, motion move to refer to staff for evaluation and report back.

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I shall move, mr chairman, second, that any discussion.

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Yeah, if I could address it a little bit? Yes, yes, so uh this request came in from the.

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Adjacent uh business owner there at sea, and so we put out a camera.

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We're starting to observe pedestrian crossings and traffic conditions in the area, so we'll continue.

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To do that and then we'll have a report back on it at the next meeting. Great all those in favor.

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Any opposed okay b additional parking enforcement holiday for juneteenth.

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June 19th sample motion move to approve juneteenth as a parking enforcement holiday.

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And make a motion to approve this. Second, any discussion.

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And I'll just make a quick comment that you know this was kind of my oversight.

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All of the federal holidays are parking holidays parking enforcement holidays, which means that you.

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Still technically have to pay, but there's going to be nobody there to write you a ticket, so it just.

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Makes sense that this is a new federal holiday, that it should also be included as one and for.

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Anybody watching at home, you want to go to the website in the parking area and it'll show you.

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What exact day that falls on because sometimes holidays and the enforcement holiday, don't line.

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Up perfectly, we use the calendar day. We use the calendar day. Yes, okay, okay, this is mr chairman.

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Yes, yeah: this is a national holiday, isn't it it's been already designated as a national holiday? Yes,.

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Last year, okay, thank you, yep, all those in favor, aye aye, any opposed. Okay, six uh panaway manor.

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Request for speed hump by resident sample motion refer to staff for evaluation and report back.

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And I'll just mention, I did hear from back from the person who requested us and they said colonial.

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The loop, but they didn't give a specific address so somewhere along colonial.

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You can get a motion to have staff. Look at that. Are you making the motion? uh I'm.

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Hoping somebody I'll make the motion to refer to staff valuation and report back.

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Second, any discussion, all those in favor hi hi, any opposed c. I'm sorry, d, daniel street.

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Request for 15-minute parking space in front of number 22 daniel street by business owner.

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Sample motion: one move to approve 15-minute time restriction on existing parking space.

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On the north side of the street in front of number 22 daniel street sample motion, 2.

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Move to eliminate 15-minute restriction on parking space on south side of daniel street.

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Located between 142 and 160 feet west of penn hollow street, so this was.

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Yeah, I guess let's, let's get a.

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The motion may change based on the discussion. One question, mr chairman: yes, has anybody contacted the.

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Person, that's going to be the business that it's going to affect. Has anybody been talking to him.

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The business has contacted us, okay and she's on today, too so she's watching um and.

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So so this is during the construction of brick market. I believe the 15-minute parking spaces were.

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Encumbered so nobody could use them, so we moved them to be in front of mo's.

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Now they've been in front of moe's for the last couple of years and the people at.

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Mohs for anybody that doesn't know it's a sandwich shop, they kind of enjoy having the.

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15-Minute spaces because people come in to pick up sandwiches, so they're reluctant to.

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Have us move the space back, um we would be moving only one of the two spaces.

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So um perhaps a motion would be to have staff evaluate the usage of the parking spaces.

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Do you want a motion before we have a discussion? Yes,.

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I don't think well I'll. Second, your emotion I have I I want to talk about this before making.

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A motion because I don't think we need to evaluate this. I think it's pretty clear.

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From what the owner of moe's has said, what their need is so.

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I don't know what my my motion would be to keep. Can I change the motion from what's on yeah yeah.

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My motion would be to keep the 15-minute spaces that were in the temporary locations in front of.

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Mo's and um and have just one 15-minute space at brick market, the building at brick, market.

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So that's my motion. This is this facility. Let's get a second okay.

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Is there a second go ahead? What's your motion again, my motion is to go down to that second.

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Space, the 15-minute spaces, the temporary locations, which has benefited most during the pandemic, but.

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They continue to be only a take out. My motion is to keep the spaces in front of moe's.

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And have one 15-minute space at brick market to make this permanent? Please.

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Make this? Yes exactly! The second suggestion.

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Somebody will second for discussion. We can then discuss. Has it been seconded yeah, okay, so, okay, you.

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Know this is all together different than what we talked about what the business talked about before.

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So I think they ought to be notified. What the motion is before we just finally decide they've.

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Been a part of portsmouth for many many years, and I I do you know, support them as a local business.

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And uh we got to be very careful what we do here, yeah! That's how I feel if I, if I may.

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Yes, she's watching today, so she's she's in the she's in this meeting, she's watching.

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uh From zoom, if you have any comments, you want to add um just raise your virtual hand.

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Or put something in the chat, if the virtual hand is not working.

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In the meantime, we'll go with steve so, as I read the email from cheryl.

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That uh the mary lou's motion to keep the to make the two in front of mo's permanent and.

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Keep the one on the other side of the street permanent would be acceptable, so I'm just.

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Wondering if that is a correct, read of your email cheryl, so here I'll just hit that.

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Sure go ahead, oh can I can you hear me? Yes, ma'am yeah. This is fantastic. Okay! Thank you. Thank you.

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For um having me on the agenda, I really appreciate it. um I just wanted to explain um our situation.

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We've been like many businesses, we've been exceptionally challenged with copin 19 and.

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Those two 15-minute spots um have become a a field. You know pretty much. The only.

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Blessing out of the only thing that's come out of the copic 19. That's been a good thing.

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And then, after code we've been dealing with cover 19, but I caught the one-two punch of provide 19.

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And uh the brick market construction, um which has reached more havoc on our entire, the businesses.

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On daniel street than kovic could have ever done, um and so my request is to keep the two.

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Parking spot the two 15-minute spots in front of our shop um for the following reasons: one um I.

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Don't believe that there are any other businesses that really benefit um from those 15-minute spots.

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And the second reason is that our customers have really gotten used to it. It's been two years.

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um We have a lot of uh we've been in business for 63 years, so we have a lot of.

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Elderly clientele that have been coming in for all those years and we also have the opportunity.

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To run sandwiches out to them to run orders out to them, it's really helpful for children in their car.

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And we wouldn't be able to do that with those parking spots across the street, um because they're.

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Further down and people wouldn't be able to see their kids in their car, and I don't have the staff.

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Actually, to be able to be peeking out the window trying to see whose car is there.

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So um I have spoken to a few of my neighbors who you know seem to have no issues with that.

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Not all of them and I'm hoping that you can honor this request.

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Could I just ask a question: cheryl, do you have a a time frame when you think.

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The 15 minutes is mostly utilized or between the enforcement hours of nine and seven pm.

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Is there a time period where that's it's really used versus not really used so much.

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For sure I mean definitely uh definitely lunch time, I would say well truthfully, we open at.

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Nine and we close at six, um so I would nine o'clock- is great- helps with our delivery. Drivers.

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Believe it or not during the summer, we're actually busy, sometimes at nine o'clock.

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um I would say, like nine to four is really the time where those spaces are utilized. The most.

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Great, thank you. Mary lou has a question. uh Yes, um uh I would suggest that we keep this parking with.

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Two spaces 15-minute spaces in front of moe's, um for the reasons that uh the owner has suggested.

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As far as brick market goes, their entrance is right at the bend of pen, hallow and daniel. It's.

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Not where even a 15 minutes parking space is suggested. I also think that river run benefited.

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From 15-minute parking spaces during the pandemic, but they don't necessarily need it now, but moe's.

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Has just a takeout and it's really to their advantage to continue with the 15-minute spaces.

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When we have the 15-minute spaces, are they kept 24 hours or are there changes in that.

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Time frame that are no, those metered spaces are permanently 15 minutes. Yep, okay,.

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Steve, I just want to make sure we're clear that these are public spaces, they're, not exclusive.

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To the moe's business, so other businesses will benefit as well, and I think it's it's a logical.

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Thing for that block, given the businesses to have several spaces, and I would support the motion.

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And eric I'd just like to hear what you have to say in relation to this: okay, uh yeah, we've.

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We were looking, we have those three 15-minute spaces out there right now and in past years,.

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We've monitored the we used to have more in this in this block and we monitored them and saw that.

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They weren't getting a lot of usage, they were less than half used. That's why we reduced the.

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Number, I think we used to have five or six, and now it's down to the three that we have there now.

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Certainly it you know where they get distributed is up to where the businesses you know where it.

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Makes the most sense for the businesses and what what our primary factor is not having spaces sit.

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Empty and unused, we want them to be used and if it's a 15 minute space, that's going to sit.

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Empty for half the day or more than that, we question whether or not that's the best use.

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For the businesses in the area, certainly she can benefit this. This business benefits from it.

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But is it used by all the businesses in the area and we can monitor that with a.

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Camera we can put that out there and take a look and see how they're being used, but.

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You know it certainly could stay as it is right now in the temporary location. Until we have some.

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More data on that we can come back another time, but would you think, would you consider a 30-day.

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Evaluation and report back to the next meeting for approval, or that would be enough time to be.

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I mean I'm in favor right now, but I just if you go by what you just said, yeah with 30 days be.

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Reasonable you take that as a friendly amendment. Is that an amendment I unless scored as a friendly.

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Amendment because I'm turning to maryland, asking her that well personally, I think we don't need.

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To study it, I think it's been this way during the temporary use and we have other 15-minute.

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Spaces that we don't come up and question all the time, I would suggest that we look at our second.

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Suggestion online there and have the 15-minute spaces two spaces in front of moe's one at brick.

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Market, if I may respond yes, so the reason this discussion needs to take place is because we're.

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Out of ordinance right now, yeah, so the top one there that shows 15 minutes basis, chapter.

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7 is what the ordinance says: we've moved them temporarily, so when we go to move them permanently,.

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This is why this discussion is necessary and not related to any of the other 15s in town.

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The idea here is, you know: how do we spread the population of these spaces to best benefit the.

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Businesses that are on the street and you've got at this place at this. In the third suggestion.

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There you would still keep the one in front of mohs the very first space, and you would put the.

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Two, on the other side to to service the businesses on that side of the street. That's the idea.

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However, we want to decide, it is fine with us. uh Just um that's that's why this discussion needed.

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To take place mainly so this has to go in front of city council to change the ordinance we'll.

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Make a recommendation at the one you know after everything's completed construction wise uh where.

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These three spaces, finally, land right. Okay, so I would go ahead. Harold. This issue was brought up.

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Under the brick building issue of talking uh by the city council uh was, it was. Was this? What.

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We're talking about now was it mentioned. Also, no, so we just we. We asked for the sidewalk extension.

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Permit actually that there'd be no parking by contractors on daniel or penn hollow it didn't.

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Include this, but it didn't get into the finer details all right. Thank you, uh chair counselor,.

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So how would you like to proceed as a counselor we're going to make a recommendation, but how do.

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You see us proceeding, so I go to most frequently um and I see the spaces utilized as their intended.

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However, I go to moe's around lunchtime, so my anecdotal data is during the peak, so I think.

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um To steve's point where we don't want to be designating spaces to do a business specifically.

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It should be that we get the data to make sure that it makes sense, and during the month of july,.

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Should be a pretty busy month, so I think we'll get good data, but I don't want to set a precedent.

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Where we're making decisions that aren't based on data, so I think we should monitor the spaces, make.

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Sure they're being utilized, which I fully expect that they will be and then come back to this in.

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August and make it final that the two spaces stay in front of mos. Unless something you know highly.

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Unusual comes out of that data. Is that approval by the staff? Okay, that's fine with us, yeah yeah, okay,.

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Thank you. So your suggestion is to have two spaces in front of moe's one across the street study. This.

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Come back, which is great decision, it's a friendly amendment on two okay there's already a camera up.

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Good, I think I think we know, or we have a good idea where this is going to turn out, but I think.

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We should go through the right. The process through the motion. Okay, go through the motion.

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Yeah, all right so any further discussion. It's our amendment, my friendly amendment.

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Yeah, so I guess the motion is to study for a month and come back at the august meeting and.

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Make a final decision: that's what I understand. Okay, all those in favor, hi, hi hi, any opposed.

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Okay, so old business.

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Osprey drive report back on speed study, sample motion to place on file.

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I sell movements to chairman.

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I'll, second, that we're having a hard time seconding things today. Did you? Yes, it's it's july. It's vacation week.

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Do do you want to just give a upfront yeah a brief. We did go out there and measure speeds again.

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On osprey drive, we struggle measure them back in january. Again, in april we saw the speeds are still.

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The same as in the charts in your packet average of 23 and 85th of 27., um although the speed limit.

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Is it is posted at 15? It's not a true legal speed limit out there. It really would be 25 and when.

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You consider that the true speed limit should be 25, then these average speeds and 85th percentile.

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Speeds are right in the range of that actual legal speed limit. So that's why we don't recommend any.

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Type of traffic calming measures- and we just would place this on file. Okay, any discussion so.

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Excuse me, mr chair, so explain when we put something on file, do we bring it back up again.

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If residents or members of this committee want the issue brought up again or does it stay on file.

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Well, I would think there need to be something that would change that would need to bring it forward.

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To this committee to make another evaluation of it, okay, so if somebody came back in a year yep, we.

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Would have it on file, but we would take no action, otherwise, just an explanation again. Thank you.

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Any further discussion steve, I think this is a perfect example of one of the.

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Speed limits being posted at something that is neither enforceable nor legal.

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And sets false expectations so hence back to the speed limit work that we're doing.

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Right, you know there's a tie-in here, so I appreciate the staff data and pointing that out.

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All right, all those in favor all right, any opposed informational, monthly accident report from police.

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We had 67 total crashes in the month of may 34, those 67 were reportable crashes and we had no.

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Incident no instances of motor vehicles with crashes between either bicycles or pedestrians,.

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Parking enforcement holidays- I think we've already covered this, but maybe you want to.

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Go over it again, ben sure this is just what's posted on the park. Portsmouth.

B

Website again, we want to remind that it is an enforcement holiday, not a payment holiday.

B

So I wanted to be clear what days these are going to be observed.

B

Rather than you know, have it change every year and confuse people if it's? The fourth is on a sunday.

B

And but the federal holidays like technically on a monday, the division has made the decision to.

B

Go ahead and use the actual calendar day for the enforcement holidays. So, regardless of the day that.

B

It falls on that's the day that we'll go ahead and have the enforcement holiday, as opposed to.

B

Shifting it every year, so that's what this is about. It's posted on the website as such.

B

And so it says fees not enforced on that particular day, and this uh you can see in the on.

B

The fifth one down I've put beginning june 19 2023 in anticipation that we would pass that today. So.

B

That's what's on the website right now, great, thank you and just to clarify the enforcement holiday.

A

Is there's nobody writing tickets that day? So if you don't pay for your parking you're, not going.

A

To get, let's say, a citation, the reason we don't program the meters to say that it's free parking.

A

Because it's not really free parking, it's kind of uh if you're from out of town, you don't know.

A

That's an enforcement holiday, but if you're local you you do so it's an advantage for us well locals.

A

That are paying attention um and the other thing is, if you forget that it's an enforcement holiday.

A

And you pay, you can't get a refund because you were supposed to pay so there's nothing to refund.

A

So just to kind of clear up the wording and why it is the way it is. I don't think has turned around.

G

To a tourist and said: please don't you don't have to pay today right right, you're, awfully nice.

C

I won't mr chairman, I see uh on the listing of the holidays and we just approved of uh june 10th.

C

Parking enforcement- and I see on the listing here- it doesn't begin until june 19th of 2023 right.

A

Because the 22nd or this year's has already passed, it already happened. Okay, we just approved it today.

C

So right, yeah, okay, actually we missed, we dropped the ball there yeah. I misunderstood.

C

When it was enforced, uh steve yeah for the record I have let tourists know that.

F

They don't have to pay on parking enforcement holidays because that's the kind of person I am.

F

But I just want to also be clear that it's a parking meter fee not enforced the time limits.

B

Where they, where applicable time limits, are still enforced. Thank you.

A

Oops my ipad is restarting, but I think we have a construction update next on the agenda.

H

In my informational, a letter in the at the end of your packet, um if anyone came up south street.

H

You've seen that that's big getting paved, uh that's we'll have the final layer coming up soon.

H

Marcy street, a lot of them work out there in the gas line work, so that will be.

H

Get resurfaced as well when that work is done together with newcastle avenue same project and.

H

The caton bartlett street intersection is underway for its final configuration.

H

There is a gas line that needs to be relocated first and that's what's been going on this week,.

H

So once the gas line is moved, then the rest of the work will take place all right. A lot going on.

I

A good summer for all this construction actually weather-wise. If this miscellaneous.

A

Or new construction report- that's to this report. Okay, I just want to I'm so happy to see the kate.

F

Bartlett street intersection underway- and it's really noticeable lately- how many more pedestrians.

F

Are using that intersection, so I just ask public works as much as possible. If you could do some.

F

I don't know construction signage or something keep some orange barrels.

F

Whatever out there to assist the pedestrians, while the intersection is being finalized,.

F

I've seen some pedestrians kind of not know where to walk, what to do with the construction so.

F

Anything we can do to help them during the interim would be really appreciated.

A

All right so miscellaneous, oh, I do have a miscellaneous.

I

um The large tour buses that are coming through portsmouth- I guess this is addressed to eric.

I

I've had two incidents. In the past couple of weeks, one came from state street to atkinson and came.

I

Down atkinson and two of us, two cars had to back up to court because it had a lot of difficulty.

I

Turning that bend second time was on marcy street and it came down. I was coming up from pleasant and.

I

After the children's museum, it gets really tight there and that tour bus took over both both lanes.

I

So we had to back up again down to pleasant. So I'm wondering if there are restrictions on the size of.

I

Tour buses, specifically, we can't restrict construction trucks, usually, except for the.

I

Wastewater treatment plant, but these buses that come through the narrow spaces of town.

I

Really affect other traffic yeah there. I know there is a restriction in chapter seven on.

H

Buses, I think it's siri street they're not allowed on on cirrie street, but I think that's.

H

The only street where it's specifically called out in chapter seven of the ordinances to ban.

H

Bus traffic, so something we can look at, because I think that bus turning onto atkinson was.

I

Rather a shock yeah, I would say so and then it had trouble. Turning left on court also, oh yeah yeah. So.

H

That's something this committee could take up if it wanted to make that recommendation for.

H

Other streets do we have exclusions like that? Okay, can we bring that up yeah? That would mean.

A

An agenda item to the staff: look at that: okay, thank you and then I'll just uh speak quickly.

A

To the public commenters, um I believe aldrich and peter rice isn't here today there was a drainage.

A

Issue with the location of the second speed hump, and that's why it hasn't moved forward.

A

I don't know the logistics of that. um I do also just want to caution that the whoever is the.

A

Person who gets the speed hump directly in front of their house, we tend to get reports of a lot of.

A

Noises created by trailers and trucks and stuff going over the speed, hump so they're, not they.

A

Do a good job slowing down traffic in some cases, but they don't come without. Let's say a penalty.

A

But maybe we can get a report at a future meeting where we stand on the second half of the aldrich.

A

Project and then the to speak, to miller, I used to live on miller avenue.

A

um And I was always surprised by the cars that would park there. I think there's also a camper van.

A

That often parks up near the south inner section, I think it's technically legal there. I don't know if.

A

It's something that we should have staff look at make sure is a smart idea, um my seat of the pants.

A

Opinion is it's not an ideal spot for cars to be parked, but I'd much rather hear from the experts.

A

On that yeah, the way parking is always allowed on any street unless it's prohibited. So unless.

H

There's a sign out there saying no parking, then they can do it it. But now you know with recent.

H

Reconfigurations of streets with curbing and narrowing it may be a different situation, so.

H

It could with uh need another look at that, or maybe we just you know instead of 20 feet, it's.

A

40 feet, if I don't even know if we have that capability, but we could push it a little away.

A

From the intersection yep, this committee has that ability to just come up to the mic.

E

And there's there's actually currently a sign there. That says no parking.

E

I'm not sure exactly the wording, but the gist of it says no parking beyond this.

E

Sign so the the most egregious offender there parks, just on the other side of the sign.

E

So again, that's a really unsafe situation in my opinion, and you know taking the sign down.

E

Not give him a hint or whatever, but it's the same person about 90 percent of the time and then the.

E

Person next door with the occasional visitor parks and blocks the street there also. So, let's just.

A

Clarify we would look at is maybe moving the sign yeah about two blocks that way yeah. Maybe.

A

Not that far but yeah a little away from the internet from the intersection all right. Thank.

H

You because first state law in city ordinance there's no parking within 20 feet of any corner.

H

And then this this committee can make changes to that to make it increase that distance. I desire.

G

Mr chairman, uh we're familiar with this situation out there. This has been going on probably about.

G

Two to three years, I've been out there personally myself and spoken uh to the homeowner. It is legal.

G

Where the trailer is being parked, it's being parked there intentionally most times in an effort.

G

To slow traffic down in order to help alleviate that we've put our sign boards out there. We had.

G

A mobile speed trailer out there a week ago on miller ave, but the the placement of that.

G

Trailer is in a legal spot and it is being done in an effort to slow traffic by the homeowner.

G

But I I do also agree that um it's worth looking at, possibly restricting that that space, due to due.

G

To the reasons mentioned- and this is not the first time we've dealt with this specific parking spot.

G

At uh that specific intersection, thanks for that feedback, mary lou, yes, I think we should welcome.

I

Assistant fire chief bill, mcquillen yeah, I am a mcqueen except I'm, a an acquitter yeah and with.

A

The congratulations thanks. Well, yes, welcome in the right direction. Thank you. Looking forward to.

G

Being here, that's great yeah, mr chairman, I'm the miscellaneous! Yes yeah! um Every year we talk about.

C

Limiting the amount of meetings during the summer, but I think we have a lot on the plate. I hope we.

C

Continue during the summer really for august august and september, this is my first year so.

A

I was not familiar with that, but yeah yeah, the summer months can be tough because.

A

You know people are on vacation, but I think we did pretty well today with a less than full crew. So I.

A

Anticipate we'll have a meeting in august. Okay, thank you good anything further or.

A

We're way ahead to schedule this good move to adjourn yes, this is that's second benefit.

G

Of this all in favor aye aye, aye post, we have a light load. Thank you. Portsmouth.

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