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1.26.2023 Sustainable Practices Blue Ribbon Committee

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Can't remember which one and this is super minor, but um one of the two is I was looking through.

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Them today, uh kate, listed as a cook city council, and that just just got without the same candidate.

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And I don't remember if that was november or december yeah.

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Likely november because I missed yeah okay, so remember.

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That change once anyone else has any.

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I should also highlight you should probably have a last initial when you have kate in the.

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Minutes whenever there's kate in the minutes, because it can be confusing uh which okay.

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I was in attendance at december meeting, but it does not say I am interested.

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I'm just gonna have to do november of this university.

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Perfect and then december bye, everybody.

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Still, gotta go! Oh sorry! It's okay! They're! All in the paper consenting the november 17 minutes.

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And all in favor accepting the december 15th.

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um We're gonna switch it up, so we chad is going to do his presentation. First.

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Apparently I'll set a timer for 20 minutes.

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All right, so this kind of came together last minute, but I like to, I think, we're all a pretty.

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Friendly group, and so just very quickly, can I get a show with thumbs uh if you've, if circular.

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Economy, something that you're a master at you know everything about it. If you're kind of.

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Or if you're like I've, never heard of this, can I get a show with thumbs? Okay, okay, and what about.

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X as a service is that something that sounds really familiar is that down: okay, cool, okay,.

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Great, so I think this is lined up perfectly for that, so, let's jump over to the next slide.

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So, unfortunately, we live in a uh the kind of the societal norms really in the direction of.

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More things are ending up with landfills and a lot of our local service businesses are closing.

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You saw the yeah photographic will come back up uh and unfortunately, we're losing our planet and a.

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Lot of our community aspects in the process, so my hunch is everyone agrees with with this, so I'm not.

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Going to spend too much time on it, but we don't have their resources to continue on this path.

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So let's talk about what you can do about it so on this slide we can go back to this.

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Let's pause here for a second okay, so does anyone have a definition for linear versus.

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Circular quantity does anyone want to throw out a definition out there.

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Yeah, linear resources have one use, but circular means it can be injected back into the economy.

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Over and over again, yes, that's exactly the path, so our traditional process or a linear.

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Manufacturing uh yeah, uh we take raw resources, we make our widget and then they end up in a.

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Landfill, it goes in a linear process. Now, if you look at the environment, there's no such.

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Thing as a landfill one thing guys it becomes a food source for something else, so nature's been.

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Evolving for billions of years, humans have been designing for a few thousand years. We created.

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The landfill problem nature has evolved way past that, so this is living systems. One thing grows.

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Another thing dies, it becomes a food source, it ends up in a cycle, so we need to shift towards.

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A circular economy to dispose of disposability, so you can think of like incorporating the three.

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R's reduce reuse, recycle, but overall, on a system level, we need to rethink the operating system and.

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It creates a lot of it needs a lot of creativity to actually do that. Let's jump to the next one.

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All right, so I know some of these graphics are going to be a little bit tough to see, but this.

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Is from the ellen macarthur foundation, it's a really really famous diagram on the left side.

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You have biological cycle and on the right side you have a technology cycle. So the left side. It's.

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Really around materials that can be biodegradable and safely returned to the earth and it really.

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Looks at products that are consumed such as food, but the core of it is really regeneration.

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How can we regenerate the planet we're going to focus on the right hand side today, so this.

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Is relevant to products that are used rather than consumed so, instead of having the linear process.

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Keeping it in a loop, so on the tech side, there's actually you can say four r's, there's reuse, repair.

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Remanufacturer and recycle now the inner loops. If you look on the bottom right and you bring.

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It in from the inner loop is really where the most valid can be captured. We spend a lot of.

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Time I'm talking about the furthest out on the recycle, because we can see a lot of that on like.

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A plastic at the end of life, but you really gotta the further you move towards the center is where.

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You have actually more impact and you have to go up the val. You have to go up the design stream in.

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Order to share that so think about a smartphone, for example, smartphones work a lot more as a sum.

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Of its parts, there's already been time: material, energy and engineering put into that as opposed.

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To like you go one further out and you could reuse it, you go further out, maybe refurbish it and then.

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You go all the way to the end. You may be trying to recycle it, but if you can have the phone come.

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Back and go back out somewhere else, that is the ideal area. So with that we're prioritizing the.

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Inner loop so sharing maintaining and reusing, and it also offers better cost savings. So when.

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You're, pitching these concepts or trying to adopt them in a business you get better cost.

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Savings by doing this, as opposed to further out on these loops jump into the next slide,.

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All right, any guesses of what company this is I'll, give you a hand there's at least one person here.

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Wearing it, yes, exactly has anyone heard of the wornware division, okay, cool, uh so so anyways, let's.

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First talk about: why is this important? I love patagonia as a company of like what should you be.

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Doing when and your company's what patagonia does uh so, why is it important? The clothing industry is.

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One of the most polluting industries and then so just some stuff from ellen macarthur foundation,.

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Trying to bring it back to emf as much as possible. Conventional non-organic reduction is a vast.

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Consumer of water and pesticides, polyestery nylon or man-made materials and supernatural resources.

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But they estimated over 500 billion dollars in value is lost every year, because clothing is.

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Barely warmth uh or it's or it's not recycled, it's just sitting in a closet or people just give it to.

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Goodwill hoping that it ends up in a second home, let's jump down another slide. So what I really.

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Love about this, this wornware, this wornware division- is that so they're tagline and we can.

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This slide zone actually had it for this one, but uh the tagline is that they're designed for fun.

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And built to last so they say they make durable gear that can carry through epic moments and then.

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When you've gotten the most out of it, we'll buy back your gear, so someone else can use it and.

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You get paid in patagonian credit, so as a business model. I absolutely love this because they sell it.

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Once then, they they have a way that it comes back to them. It gets refurbished and then they give.

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Credit out to their customers, so their customers purchase another patagonia product. I think that's.

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That's brilliant for keeping in circulation and because they design it to last forever. It's it's.

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A perfect product to do that, so I that's a, I think, a perfect example of the circular economy.

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Jump in on the next slide, we'll take a look at a big tech company, so dell's moonshot goal is.

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By 2030 they say with our technology and scale, we will advance health, education, economic opportunity.

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Initiatives develop and during results one billion people by 2030.. It's a bit fluffy. It's very much.

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Like a normal corporate uh corporate jargon, but it's all connected back to reuse and recycle.

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So, let's go so: let's go down to the next one, so here's an example of how they're actually going.

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About that with the circular economy, so they're looking at the materials, what what materials can.

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Be re recycled and renewed uh they're looking at design and manufacturing they're looking.

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At the overall usage, looking at the end of life, so they're thinking about this whole thing from.

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Not in a linear way, but they're thinking from cradle to grave they're, switching their mindset.

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To cradle to cradle looking at every single step of the way throughout the uh looking up, every step.

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Of the way of their product- and I think that's something that we can think more about it like.

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Are we choosing the right materials to go in? How are we extending the life of this and, as.

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People switch over to more of a mindset of circular economy or companies switch.

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Over to more of a circular economy, then in turn they want to keep things lasting longer.

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And easier for it to disassemble and recover the raw materials. So let's jump on to the next slide.

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So here's their way of fixing the landfill problem they're, allowing their parts to be repaired by.

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Customers or repair facilities, so it's giving jobs back to local computer shops, which unfortunately.

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Are moving away from that as a whole? It's also you could go on and look this up. I don't know.

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If anyone's trying to replace a screen on their iphone, it's a night, it's an absolute nightmare to.

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Do but they're trying to move in the yeah they're trying to move to exactly they're trying to move.

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In the direction of making it easier for people, so it's there's another concept in there called.

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Modular design, so let's say that they can keep they. They say: okay, our next iteration. We just.

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Want to change the keyboard, they have a modular design where you can just swap something out. Let's.

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Say you want upgrade, so you want more cpu or ram. You can just swap out one component upgrade it.

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Unfortunately, we're kind of moving most people are moving away from that direction, but they're.

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Trying to do this so they're they're, giving back jobs, they're, sharing, they're, maintaining.

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And they're reusing, let's jump onto the next one, so you can see that all of their products are able.

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To actually so once you fully disassemble it, you can see each of these individual components and.

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They can, if one thing breaks instead of throwing away the whole machine, you can just replace the.

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Ram or you can just replace the keyboard, you can swap out one thing, so it really and you.

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Can send it back to the manufacturer, so that's how they're actually making it more circular. Next, one.

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All right so shifting gears a little bit now we're going into x as a service. Anyone want.

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To throw a definition out there, what they think x is a service might be.

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And that's one x rather than owning a thing you own, the use of that thing. Bingo! That's.

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It so it's a serviceization of any product so instead of a product, you sign up for a service.

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So you're probably familiar with software as a service, so it that in the software.

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Industry, it's like a perpetual license are now switched over to uh as a service, so.

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Think of different ways that you can do this now. Why is this good for sustainability? Because you're.

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Switching the ownership back to the manufacturer, they're now responsible for what happens with this.

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At the end of life, which causes the manufacturer to want to make it so it last longer so that it.

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Can be disassembled to think about? What am I going to do with this thing, so, instead of a.

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Washing machine, for instance, I'm seeing the blue moving up the washing machine as a service. Let's.

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Think about your washing machine dies. What do you do? Maybe you have someone try to repair it.

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Doesn't always doesn't always work? Okay, it can't be repaired. Awesome order repair. What do you do.

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With it, you have to pay somewhere to dispose. It now picture if bosch owns their washing machine.

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And when it's not working anymore, they have to come and take it back, and then you sign up for.

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It's also great, if you're moving around, if you're more nomadic, which I think uh younger generations.

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Are becoming more nomadic, you just cancel your washing machine service and say take it back.

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Like I don't want it as opposed to trying to put in a truck as opposed to trying to get rid of it,.

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So we're just going to focus on x as a service. Let's jump down to the next slide.

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All right, this one's going to be really really tough to see, uh as in I was envision in like a.

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Movie theater screen, but uh what we, what it, what it is, is it's showing all of the.

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Different manufacturing segment uh sectors and companies- and I even have to look at my screen.

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Closely, it's electrical equipment, textiles and wearing apparel machinery and equipment. So there's.

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All these different subsets of manufacturing anywhere from electrical equipment to textiles.

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And then there, the subcategories, all the other. Those other rings are product.

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Oriented use, oriented results, oriented and sharing platforms, so we'll go through some.

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Specific examples of that, so this so okay yeah, let's jump on the next one.

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All right so yeah.

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All right, so there are four main arch types that help to guide on the business model side. So on.

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The left, the provider transfers ownership on the right provider keeps the ownership so uh product.

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Oriented if you look on the left, the blue box there's some examples: product oriented, there's.

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Take back programs warnware perfect example from patagonia. uh Then, if you go over to the.

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Right, the top right you have use oriented, there's one company called hilti. It's a great example. You.

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Just sign up for access to the machinery or to the tools that you need. It's and a fun fact is.

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That the average power drill in a household is used about 15 minutes over its entire lifespan. I.

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Just sit there so instead, if you have access to be stools, whenever you want them straight also apply.

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For the reports of maker space, which also is a really cool place, if you need to be able to do.

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Some work, uh then there's results. Oriented xerox did this about 20 years ago, but you pay per page.

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So you or you pay for how much you actually print versus the actual machine and then the sharing.

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Platforms such as this is a pretty cool company, fat, llama fat llama. You can rent anything from.

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Your community, you can rent bikes, you can rent snowboards, you could bend uh rent cameras. Dj sets.

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Whatever, whatever you want access to so, instead of going on amazon and buying your own dj set, if.

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You want to dj for a party you can just go on to fat llama and borrow it and then give it back off.

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Let's jump onto the next one all right, so an important aspect of this is that you can't just.

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Redesign the business model, you actually have to redesign some of the products so going from.

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Cradle to grave or linear side over to cradle to cradle so and every single phase of the process.

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Of product design, you can think about it so, for instance, one design and develop product.

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For a lifetime and quality, the most impact you can make as a manufacturer is in the design.

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Phase really thinking about: how is it, how are you going to what materials are going to pull.

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In how is it going to be disassembled? Where are you getting those materials from and and then so.

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uh With uh thinking back to the yeah, this is basically, this is another way of showing you.

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The right side of the uh ellen macarthur foundation butterfly, but just what you can.

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Do at each of these steps in order to improve the product, all right, jumping down one more.

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All right so we're looking at different value chains of hardware as a service, so there are.

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A couple example a couple more examples: there's materials as a service, so basf, much better version.

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Than uh monsanto, I would say I try to stay away from monsanto, but basf is a great example, because.

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They have uh paying for coatings as a service, so, instead of just buying the chemical pay for.

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Coding as a service there's components as a service, so there's some laser laser cutting.

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Companies, where you just instead of buy a laser cutting machine you're just offering it might be.

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Trump they're just offering it per component, you pay for that and they keep the machine in house.

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So it's not shipped and there's cargo and you're trying to maintain it. uh There's also products as.

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A service get around is a great example for car sharing and then there's equipment as a service.

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So even phillips is moving in direction and offering x-rays as a service all right. Let's.

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Jump down to the next one, so here are some global examples of x as a service, and this is.

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Now, where you get to do some guessing, which one of these do you think, is mobility as a service.

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Anyone dance dance, yep, top right, okay propulsion as a service.

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You may have to have really good eyes to get this.

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Which one text? One? Yes, okay, so that's their! They call it now corporate care. It used to be called.

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Propulsion as a service, but that's from rolls royce so dance- is out in berlin. uh Corporate.

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Rolls royce is out in the uk, and what they do is that you own the jet companies are now just.

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Paying for per propulsion that they get for their planes so, instead of buying the actual.

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Motor or the the actual turbine we pay for the promotion, and that includes all the spare.

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Parts 24 7 operating service. It includes any type of preventative care. All of that.

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um And then they can monitor the engine so closely that they can do that. What about it as a service.

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Follow left because I'm thinking it's not the dream wall group, I can't actually yes process.

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Of elimination, you had a 50 chance, so grover you can actually just uh get electronics and.

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You just subscribe to that. How long do you need a computer? How long do you need a set of headphones.

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uh So that you can send it back to them after we all know that this is probably one of your.

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Fastest appreciated assets you can purchase, um but you can sign up for a subscription to that.

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Instead and then the last one is well by process elimination, white goods as a service or clothing.

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I think clothing's a better one, um but you get with rent the runway. You can have access to all.

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Sorts of top of the line fashion and swap it out and then the last but not least, slide.

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On the next one, so the last but not least, one here's an example of a startup. That's.

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Coming to portsmouth, that's a circular economy, mobility as a service, so you end up choosing the.

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Duration and the vehicle you want and you can either rent it for daily. You can subscribe to.

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It the monthly or you can purchase if you want it indefinitely and then everything's included.

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So it's all it's all electric and then you can get the maintenance insurance registrations. All.

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The deliveries all that stuff's included, so you remove all the frustration of ownership where.

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Something you you're like: when am I going to do this when I'm done? Does it sit in your basement.

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No, you just cancel your subscription. It goes back what, if there's a part, that's broken instead of.

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You like it's sitting there, you just go on to a website and say: come fix it and that's the.

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Direction of x as a service that everything's going and that's with one minute to spare we're.

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Good, what's the name of that company is that it's c-e backslash? No, it's rad moto.

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Which is it's a startup that I'm working on? Okay? But I didn't want to it's not a pitch for it, but.

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And rodney's bicycle and motor god needs motorcycle in german. So.

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Anyways questions everyone's still awake, that's good! I don't say that close guys. You said it was.

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What brad mota rad moto like motels motorcycle and that's motorrad, so you just pitch the aim.

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Around so rock so I was living in germany worth doing the thesis and motorola's motorcycle yeah.

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And then rod is germany for bicycle and so rad and then in each towns you hear like rad. That's.

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That thing's cool, that's rad, moto, very cool, all right thanks and which would seem to do you own.

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um 800 uh f paid under gs. It was great yeah yeah, that's unbelievable flight yeah.

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Will last forever oh yeah, it has.

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A question I have about this and I love the concept.

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Or I should say one concern I have about this is um equity.

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um As far as like you know, you're, you know making good money and you can afford a monthly payment.

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On something all the time, that's a great way to go if you're barely getting by. Sometimes you can you.

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Know buy some use thing on craigslist or whatever yeah and that'll get you through and you'll find.

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Some way to make it last because that's what you have to do so everything goes to something.

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In the service, I can see a whole segment of our population being left out or another thing that.

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Ends up happening is you have to buy something you have to buy the cheapest most disposable.

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Option, where does that leave you whatever? That's that products useful when it comes out.

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Absolutely so yes, and yes, so, on the b to b side, what ends up happening is that it goes. It goes.

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Into your, uh it goes from your depreciating assets over to your expense of normal expenses, recurring.

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Expenses, so you could write it off easier than as opposed to capital equipment. The other thing.

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Is that, let's, uh I think the reason that rod modo I'm focused on now is because there's a.

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Big barrier to get into electric vehicles right now, the price point and also people are like.

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ah What's gonna happen, is it gonna like how's it going to depreciate? What's uh what's gonna.

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Happen at the end of life: it can remove those barriers, so it can get. You can look at it. Two.

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Sides it gives access to things that people normally wouldn't get, and it typically leads.

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People in direction to be able to get a higher quality product I say high higher build quality is.

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Going to last longer, because if you're going out you're like well my budget's, let's say 200 or 2.

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000 for a e-bicycle! Well, that's not going to last nearly as long as something that's, maybe like six.

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Thousand dollars for uh an e-bicycle, so it's built to last longer, so it kind of pushes people away.

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From purchasing disposable things, because instead of having to shell up the four thousand or six.

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Thousand dollars for a brand new bike, you can sell out, let's say 200, and so it gives more access to.

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People there's two ways: there's two ways to look at it. So the typically, if the manufacturer owns.

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It they're going to be motivated to make it last longer. Bmw has a company called share now and so.

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They're looking at the future of mobility and you just pay for access to it to their cars, so instead.

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Of them purposely uh like forced out adolescents that, like it, it deteriorates over time, they want.

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To stay as good as possible, so I think on the on the economic side, I think there's there's.

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Definitely two ways to look at it: it can give more people access to things that they would normally.

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Have to buy in their cost some money up front that they might not utilize much so and that's another.

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Way of looking at it is that uh equity may not be something that the private sector does well.

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It can pursue the market, it can be efficient, it can use technology but equity, maybe where the.

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Public sector comes in and um complements what the sort of thing that genesis is describing so.

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Then you have a transportation network company like uh uber or lyft. Perhaps expanding the bus.

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System and serving areas that are low profit with subsidies from around the state or the feds in the.

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City they're, a great public examples of this, but in recycling things like wedding dresses,.

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There are whole websites devoted to uh people, who've worn a wedding dress once and they want.

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It to go to somebody else who wear it and then it gets passed on again and again and again and.

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It's not just wedding dresses, it's all kinds of expensive pieces of clothing, um because people.

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Can't afford them and so and you're never going to wear it again. At least you hope you're not.

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You know a great example that I I thank you for the presentation I think about. My son lives up.

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In montreal, and what's really big in montreal is bike sharing, and so you got an app there's two.

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Different big companies they're bikes everywhere and he could go out and buy a bike and then have.

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To maintain that every you know every year and the tire goes flat and he has to deal with that.

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This is this is great and percentage of times if he bought a bike. How much time would the bike just.

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End up sitting in his apartment and not being used in the winter too, montreal in the winter and and.

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So you know that that this whole the model of you know how can we make products that um are more.

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Efficient right, so if you have bike, sharing we're manufacturing, less bikes, which means less natural.

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Resources, less energy, less, let's stop buying things like you said individually that you know if.

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You're not going to use it all the time you know, there's there's a great model right there exactly.

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Again, the utilization rate of it, especially for something that is an accessory like a motorcycle.

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Like motorcycles spend a lot of time sitting in a garage and then you replace the battery, did the.

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Oil change all that maybe write it once. Instead, if you move over to having access to it for a week.

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You probably your utilization, the utilization rate of that asset will be much higher and.

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Then the motivation, the manufacturer, is to make a higher end product, and so it gets the.

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Utilization rate up the quality of it up and then there's less just sitting you're making.

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Me feel guilty, as my motorcycle is sitting at home in my shed on a trickle charger yeah.

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I think if he has her hand out, oh yeah.

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Yeah hi thanks. It was a great presentation and, I'm sorry to say I didn't get the speaker's name and.

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We don't see the speaker, we see the whole room so over here someone could yeah. Okay,.

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Maybe that opening- I don't know yes, it's chaz sullivan great. Thank you.

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I don't know we have another great example in portsmouth of this.

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um For another luxury item freedom boat club, where you buy a membership and share boats.

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Yeah and the utilization rate super low. I don't need more time.

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That's a really good example: local right here in town, yeah.

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The biggest thing- and I imagine the biggest hurdle- is consumer trust issue and the logistics side of.

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It right there's that inherent concern of what, if I need a bike, and I show up at narrative.

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Wipes which I'm eating her right and over time, I think most, it's just cases for themselves or when.

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Uber first came out, people were like you know. I remember my dad would be like you're getting in.

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The car with some random stranger, like absolutely not you know, and now it's the first person to call.

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An uber, and so there's like a very there's, an adoption cycle there exactly and then scale.

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It too right now you can get rex and you want it slightly upgraded version, but I do think that that.

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Hurdle is sometimes hard. It's it's a hard switch for people who are you start like owning their own.

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Car and then having to go through the growing pains as well, um and I think, on the logistics.

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Side too, I think unfortunately, sometimes like the southwest debacle, but there are planes running.

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Around right, that was a logistical challenge of how they structured things and because of that.

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um You know modeling issue on one end, there's nothing! A consumer can do right.

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So it's just an interesting thing. I I feel like I loved services and ideas, but that's always the.

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First, questions right: the first hurdles: there's two there's two different models that you're.

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Seeing as well looks like if we're looking at transportation, you're mentioning uber in big.

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Cities, it makes sense for uber to be there because they're more condensed, you see a lot more. The town.

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I, like the bike, sharing programs and like line screws and stuff because they get driven from.

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One point to the next and then they stay in, but when you have smaller cities that are more spread.

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Out they get scattered, uh at least with rad, and one of the ideas is that you you subscribe to. It.

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It's your your bike, you do whatever you want with it. You want to go down to florida and be.

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There, for two months with it that's your choice: it won't be serviced in florida. You got to bring.

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It back, but it's yours to use it any way you want, but instead of paying the four thousand for.

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An e-bike up front you instead a 200 through 400. Whatever the amount is it's almost it's yours, yeah.

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Exactly let's say for your uh let's say for your kids going to college.

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And you're like I want them to have, I want them to have a bike.

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um But I know that they're not going to maintain it, so why don't I get them this and I know they're.

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Going to be there for one year and I don't want to deal with driving it around or this.

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Is uh dealing with a service? It's just it's all coverable! So just sense, it's more like a leasing.

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Almost it's like a lease. Yes, that's what you're, starting so there's so many different acts as a.

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Service, there's like uh so like the patagonia is like you, you buy it and you buy it back, but then.

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There's other companies like trump, for instance, they put in uh their laser cutting machine into.

E

Your facility, you only pay per out like per part, that comes off of it, but it's not your facility.

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And then they're responsible for servicing it. So you just use the machine yeah yeah, copies.

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Of the high school yeah, they are not ours, exactly they've disappeared one day and then the next day.

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There were new ones exactly so xerox is doing that yeah, so you've seen a lot of different angles on.

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This same model, so it's either it's shared like uber or it's you have it in your area. You use it.

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Whenever you want you pay per use, so there's a lot of different types of models in the x as a service.

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um I was going to add I've long thought that one of the solutions to parking and housing.

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Together is, would you build a new complex rather than putting in enough parking for everyone.

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um You have you know a rental option with your rental comes two hours of vehicle use per week,.

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And you have zip cars or whatever on site in a schedule, and everybody has to sign up for their.

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Time frame that they're going to use the vehicles- um and you know that just is part of your rent.

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You do that and you don't have to factor in the cost of apartment space into the rents of.

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Them or condo in the utilization rate of the cars go up as opposed to just taking up space.

E

E

It's a big capital step to put a solar array on a building, uh so a number of the providers.

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Are essentially installing solar power as a service, you know safer and gear up front.

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You're, essentially, essentially, leasing it for paying for a service. Now, it's not.

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Going anywhere, you're always going to be the you you user of that um capability, but over.

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Time it might become yours at a depreciated discounted rate, but it sort of eliminates.

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um A lot of the upfront capital hurdles which for big capital expenses like solar arrays, are.

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Generally deal killers. Well, it actually does a really good point, because the other reason.

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That doing those those contracts like that with solar is that the private energy company- that's.

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Providing you that energy with that it's all about it, gets to take a tax rate on yes,.

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Business that rents a service like that do that tax right back.

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I don't know yet if there is money.

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Given a good run at the time, I I really gave the budget half here and I think it's a great.

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Transition uh to the item on the agenda, which is uh community engagement through which is going.

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To have a right action website and what's your suggestion uh very much, I think it is timely.

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And we get an update on the uh climate action plan for the city. How do we build this in structurally.

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For our climate action plan and in terms of citizen adoption that might.

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Be part of the right action, so I think you're leading a great foundation to.

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Move forward in a really beautiful way, so perfect, a lot of pure compliments.

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So that presentation be available.

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Yeah and also if it's helpful at your at your school, I'm happy to chat if you could send it.

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To to kate and kate to send it out to the whole committee is very, very important. I.

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Can give you the powerpoint with the notes in it? If people want to talk all the time awesome.

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Can you hear me okay,.

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um The community engagement subcommittee has been very busy we're working on a whole bunch.

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Of different pieces and things getting bright action going some content for websites and.

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Email some different events, but I think the one that's most important that I update all of you on.

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um Is our earth day kickoff event that we are planning? It is one of the three dates that we have.

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On the portsmouth 400 calendar it's april 21st, so that is the day before earth day, which is a friday.

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We are hoping to do it like an afternoon kind of evening thing roughly from four to seven. We.

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Are collaborating with the library they are very excited to help us with this event, so we don't.

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Exactly have a set time just because we don't know if it'll be in the field next to the library right.

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Now or the library seeing if the connie bean might be an option or maybe within the library itself,.

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So, just depending on what that turns out to be, we just haven't set the date that set the intention.

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Of the vent is really to educate and inform as many people as we can about a few different things.

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um First, how they can get involved and what they can do. So we really want to see earth day as an.

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Actual day of action, so our hope is that if we can gather enough organizations and community.

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Groups and different people at this event to share about what they do, whether it's beach, cleanups or.

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um You know, I don't know if there's a myriad of things but to give people ideas of what they can.

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Commit to doing on earth day, and that could be they they sign up for a beach cleanup or.

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They commit to having a compost or they start riding their bicycle more or they donate to.

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One of these organizations, whatever resonates for them, um some of the people that we hope to invite.

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um Are this city we're hoping somebody from this committee and or the sustainability and planning.

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Department can be there, our hope and kate, and peter I will defer to you. Is that maybe we'll.

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Have a com, a contract with the consultant, so maybe somebody from that consulting company.

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Could be there as well and just sort of see how we're doing things we can start to get feedback.

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From people about what their priorities are around the cap and what's important to them,.

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And for as a way to start to educate people about the cap um potentially have dpw there.

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Brian to share and talk about more about what you guys do with water and those kinds of things.

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um We're hoping to have the eco club there ben lorelei and see those students for sustainability.

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um The sea ray and a lot of the group, the groups that fall under that now so tkag and portsmouth.

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Climate action and rad and planted for the planet and then also just other local organizations,.

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Like the gundalo, that does a lot of conservation work on the river or the blue ocean society, celt.

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uh The urban forestry center, the seacoast science center seacoast deep local surf.

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Rider I have like a list of uh 15 to 20 groups that we're hoping to send out emails to see who.

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Would be interested in participating, we hope to make it a really family-friendly.

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Event as well to have activities and ways for people to engage we're working on the.

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Potential for food and music as a way to entice people there as well.

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um And I think that's really most of the key points like I said: there's some other things.

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Going on, but that is where our efforts are really focused at this point, we've met with the library.

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Our once and kind of designated tasks we're going to meet with the library again in two.

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Weeks to kind of follow up and see where we're at and how progress is being made. um We're gonna.

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Start reaching out to see who's available to participate and engage with us on this event,.

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Yeah, let's see.

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Is there questions for professionals for jess? This was related to oh, so, okay, that this is just.

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An update for margo about school stuff, but I don't know if you're all set yes and effing on it. Jess.

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I'd like to piggyback on, thank you for and for all the great work you're doing, with uh coordinating.

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On earth day and uh the kickoff and and earth day, because we're looking at events on on both.

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Of those days um and two other things I I wanted to mention, uh one is um the voice of citizens.

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So from an engagement and community engagement perspective, jess happy and I have talked about.

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You know: do we survey uh members of the of the community, you know, how do we understand what is we.

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Can sit here all day long and tell the community what we think they want what they should hear, but.

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We really need it's got to be two-way, so we really need to to identify what those methods are that.

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We're going to receive you know the thoughts of the community. What's the voice of the community.

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We had last fall talked about waiting until the contractor for the cap had come on board because.

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What we don't want to do is have too much you know, bombard the community. We want to do that in a very.

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Effective efficient way and very targeted and who better to help guide us on how we should do that.

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Than the new contractor, so that's something that we're looking forward to and very excited about. As.

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They come on board is because that's going to be important for them. It's important for for the city.

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It's important for all of us is to really gauge and listen to the community. So that's one thing.

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I wanted to mention jess and effie, and the other thing I wanted to say to everybody too.

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And and jess I apologize if this is too early, but jess has been talking to the farmer's market and.

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She's also been talking to the library about periodically getting a booth or a table set up.

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And so whether it's people from this committee or from portsmouth climate action, which is you.

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Know part of the c right setting up a table or a booth. Once a month, every two weeks and getting a.

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Volunteer, so we can get people to sign up for first of all bright action, but then we're also.

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There to engage with the community and hear what they have to say and and bring them up to speed on.

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What we're doing so, I think that is going to be what justice is kind of outlined for us. There's.

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Two venues right there for us to continuously engage with the community on a face-to-face level.

F

Which is really exciting so jess, I didn't mean to steal, what's up with your thunder, but there's.

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So many great things, I know that you're working on we're working on and I just wanted to make.

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Sure people were aware of some of these. You know additional things that are are in the pipeline.

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If there's more questions, but I if I could I'd like to give an update about actual plan because.

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It ties in nicely with all this. I have a quick question, I'm just curious when the invitations.

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Are going to go out to these organizations, and the reason I'm asking is is that I would think.

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The sooner the better because then they could send to their lists of people which would yeah generate.

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More interest, yes, do you want to talk about the timing and looping back with the library, because.

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We do after before we move forward, we have to secure, you, know the facilities and and get that.

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All locked in um yep, so to answer your question, kate, I I agree with you and now I will say I have.

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Connections at some of these organizations already so I've sort of planted the seed a little bit.

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um I'm obviously away right now, but my hope is that if I can steal a few minutes this weekend,.

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And definitely next week I will start sending out emails. I have um karen. Barn dollar has also.

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Offered to help us with this effort, because she knows some people at some of these organizations.

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And to reach out as well and just even though we don't have all the specifics kind of say,.

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Hey, can you put this on your calendar? Would you be interested in participating? My goal is that.

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um We meet with the library again on february 6th, and my hope is that I will have some sort.

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Of answer from most of the organizations about you know: yes, maybe no by that time.

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um Because, like you said, I know, people are starting to plan for earth day and my the.

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Other thing that I think we thought about was that twofold: this might be a day that is more easy to.

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Do? Because a lot of people will have or a lot of organizations will have events on earth day itself.

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um And so we're really excited to have this as a kickoff to encourage action on earth day. So.

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I'm hoping that might help make some groups more available as well, because they won't necessarily.

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Be committed the day before earth day as they might, you know more likely might be on earth day.

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Is that what they, what day, is it? Is it going to be on a weekend day or is earth day.

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Today is a saturday.

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Friday afternoon, friday evening, on the 21st.

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Chicago thanks for reminding me, I know you know they should make tonight, but she had an.

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Update for all of us and ben, you might know more about this, but the school department.

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Apparently, passed a no homework weekend for the entire school district on earth day.

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News for me, though, yeah and I guess, there's going to be a day of fun action as well, and.

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So the schools will all be organizing groups to participate in the day of department action.

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And that's what happened to the next month or two and also the phs by cracking, has been approved.

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I would just like to make sure that we're really reaching out to different parts of the community.

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As well, um you know, I think, like maybe a lot of people who would be at library. Farmers market are.

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One subset of our community, but there's a lot of subsets. I think, looking at things like are.

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These events on the weekends like this, if it's people who work on the weekends or yeah so just.

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Making sure that, as we're doing this outreaching, especially as we're getting survey, which is part.

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Of what the consultant is responsible for, but that we're getting a broad sense from the community.

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um And that we're making sure that we're.

B

Giving avenues for everyone yeah, that's a great point. Last fall. We came up with a laundry list.

F

Of different, like the the senior center- and you know we came effie, I think- had just a whole list.

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Of you know, we could go to here and we could go here. We could get here and the one thing that.

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We stopped for, and our enthusiasm I think, was getting away a little bit and we said oh wait.

F

A second we're all volunteers, you know we all have jobs and we're like okay. So, let's, let's.

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Get together with the consultant, you know when they come in and let's, let's figure out where.

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We get the most bang for our buck because at the end of the day you know there's only.

F

There's only so many hours in the week, and so it would be great. I mean we'd love to do. Do it all.

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But we, you know, we're gonna have to cherry pick, yeah well, and I guess that's uh right. Rather than.

B

Maybe doing three tabling events at the farmer's market. Maybe it's one at the farmer's market and.

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Putting our eggs in the basket somewhere else as well, maybe I'm sure that it's formed widespread.

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Rather than one exactly because often it is similar parts of the community that are going.

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For the same people, yeah right, you got the same audience, yeah yeah and there might be partnership.

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Opportunities like you might be able to get prescott park, arts festival to let you sit at.

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Their table one night, that's within the festival, grounds yeah to share information. You know it's.

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Those places where there are a lot of people in the summer or concerts yeah right yeah, yes,.

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um I I agree with you. I I would add. Like herb said, we've come up with a laundry.

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List of things, and some of the other places that are on that list that we.

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um Again for the table, for the time being, where I know like a lot of our affordable income.

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Housing they have community centers and those kinds of things so seeing.

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If we could get access to them, maybe at a time when you know parents are picking up kids from.

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After school, or something like that trying to see if that might be something trying to work.

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With the portsmouth housing authority to see if that was a possibility in some way too so.

B

I just I just wanted to throw that out there. It was something we've discussed. We haven't.

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Figured out the details, but it was something we thought about. That's great and I think that's.

B

A great segue to peter and the cat, because a lot of us will come back on consultant anymore.

A

A

I saw when you were talking table and you mentioned a lot of- um I guess. Let's just put.

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The view I saw you mention a lot of uh non-profit groups here, looking at um like companies that do.

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Environmental work as well, they can like revision, energy or ecosound builders or there's a number.

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Of companies- and you could maybe positive as like this isn't like a sales opportunity, but more an.

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Educational opportunity, you can talk about what you do and why it's important, not necessarily a.

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Pitch but just like hey we're a builder and we build buildings in this way because it's.

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An environmental thing and there's an educational thing. Yes do you want me to take take a crack at.

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That uh well feel free to add on, but I do want to say um aubry. We had discussed that actually.

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um Not so much in the builder perspective, so I'm glad you brought it up because it.

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Was something I meant to mention? We had thought about it in regards to, like mr fox um to have.

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Them there you know and just to your point, if it's a library at the library, so it's sort of.

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A city event: we don't want to show preferential treatment to any one business over another, but.

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I do think there's value there. We had also thought about, like some of the upcycle clothing stores.

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In town that could come and just talk about fast fashion, not necessarily promoting their business.

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um So personally, I am definitely open to that. I just don't know how you kind of create the.

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Guidelines to make it clear that we're we're not showing preference to one company over another.

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And, like you said, it's more of just come and educate people about better ways of doing things.

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Or more sustainable ways of doing things, so I'd be open to feedback in other people's perspective.

F

I mean this is that's the struggle, I mean we could invite portsmouth ford right because.

F

They sell electric vehicles and say well: don't push portsmouth forward, just push.

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The concept of electric vehicles, I think others probably sure, have different opinions, but if we.

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Get away from the non just the pure non-profit, community city, a groups and start getting into.

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Groups that are there for profit, it's it it! It's tough, who I mean who do you invite right.

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And and the city of portsmouth is tied to all of this, so there's a.

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City of portsmouth, taking preference for uh revision over another solar electric company.

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I think it's you have to be careful, it's one thing: if you can't and you let vendors choose to sign up.

B

And pay a fee to be there versus right asking them to come yeah, I think yeah. So maybe it's you know.

B

The non-profits or who are getting reached out to right. We would like you here, but maybe there.

B

Is a space and maybe there's a to kind of keep the feel more community engagement? Maybe it's.

B

You know you're setting up 20, 25 tables for non-profits and community-based and there's.

B

Five or ten tables for profit-based and it's uh you know if they reach out um and it's not the.

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Other way but yeah I at some point, though you know we have, I think, all the things that just.

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Listed sound like really amazing, to have there so has there been a discussion of uh corporate.

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Sponsorships speaking of the forefront for the 21st for that date and 22nd yeah.

F

um Yeah jess we have no may or may not need funds, but yeah. I guess what what is the money needed for.

F

I don't know no that that discussion has not come up. I mean again most of the organizations.

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That we were working with it was more, um you know their non-profit. It's an opportunity.

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For them to share for people to engage and get involved, um even the foods that we're working.

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With we're trying to kind of figure out a way to make that sustainable and free and.

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So I don't know if there's a lot of cost there needed, so we haven't, discussed um and and the.

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Library has talked about budgeting, for whatever expenses we may have so all right in the library. I.

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Think also, you know they're helping guide us on um what we can and can't do on city property right. So.

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um You know because we could do some pretty wild things. Probably, um but you know that's something.

F

That there I jess, I I believe right there. You know they they've they've, uh communicated to you that.

F

That's something they're going to help guide us through. You know what we can and can't do, which.

F

Is is really important, mm-hmm yeah and then with the library yeah. I just wanted to mention that.

H

Laura horwood ben, who I believe, is the assistant director at the library, was one of the authors.

H

Of the city of portsmouth's report on community engagement, so they're really into this whole idea.

H

And really supportive of our work and jess peter peter britz was asking who you had just recently.

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Met with and are working with at the library I I met with their um new communication. I forget.

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What her title is: christy bryant and sarah cornell and um michaela, and I can't remember.

B

Michaela's last name, I'm not even sure I could pronounce it it's like p-u-g's, something or other.

B

And and to to sort of reiterate what epi said, um christy is very excited and very committed.

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To wanting to be as much a part of this as she can on behalf of the library, sustainability is a.

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Really, a big focus for her she's hoping to have a lot of events about this throughout the year.

B

um So they are, they are fully engaged, they're very excited. They like the idea of this event that it's.

B

Sort of the kickoff to get people to take action. We've talked about maybe coming around full circle.

B

And doing a movie or something later on the day at earth day, so people could kind of gather and talk.

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About whatever action they took and maybe watch just a fun uplifting movie about sustainability,.

B

And so they are fully committed and engaged one additional idea for getting corporates involved.

E

Is they always want to talk about what they're doing for impact work, uh enviro, environmental.

E

Social there could be some sort of an entry where everyone gets all the corporates get a.

E

Table they have to buy their way in and then they share to the community. What they're doing in the.

E

Community and then the community votes on which one they think is doing the most impact and then.

E

Whoever wins gets the prize, but that's a way to get community involved. It's a way that companies.

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Get to talk about what they're doing it's a way to get people to come to their tables and hear.

E

What they're doing, but in a way, that's not like they're, not going trying to sell their products.

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They're trying to sell what they're doing for impact, but just a just an idea: yeah and a half.

F

And I just want to say one more thing, because I I'm kind of I think jess and I differ a little.

F

Bit in that I don't want. I don't think that court uh come for profit companies. We should invite them.

F

And one of the reasons really that's driving: that is that this is a kickoff and what we're trying to.

F

Do is we're we're trying to educate the community on some an activity that they can do on saturday.

F

And so, if we write invite revision is revision, are they bolstering uh the messaging that is revision.

F

Going to help people identify things that right, or is mr fox, going to help them identify versus some.

F

Of the non-profits are really looking for people to and they want to educate them, but also like.

F

Blue ocean society and others have events going on on saturday, and so on friday. They want to be able.

F

To educate, yeah, you've been awareness of awareness to say, come out tomorrow morning and help us do x.

F

Or the urban forestry center or others that are running events on saturday- and this is.

F

Really kind of an awareness and a recruiting event versus us educating uh on you know.

F

Solar panels on your house, or something like that, which I'm sure we'll be doing in the future right.

F

I mean those events are giving us. This keeps the focus on the day. This is really focused.

F

On earth day, and not so much the greater uh climate action and sustainability efforts.

F

And all that we're driving through the cap and so with saying the cap, I think that's.

F

uh Before we move to the cap, I just wanted to say um we also have the date october 22 in the.

H

Portsmouth 400 calendar and um some groups are referring to that as sustainability day.

H

uh Some people were calling it half earth day, but that didn't make much sense. But it's uh six months.

H

After earth day, so it's a good time to check in and make sure that this work is happening.

H

So people can put it in the minutes and in your calendars thanks.

I

Great, that's awesome. Yeah um we'll do peter real, quick with cattle urchin engagement, but.

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We do also need to get to bill and tf supporting okay but yeah. um So it's great to hear about all.

A

This volunteer work that obviously there's everything as volunteers and and similarly, we.

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Can't do everything with our contractors, because there's only so much money, so the thought I had.

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Was what can we do working together and the the way I want to talk about? It is so the contract.

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Has been signed by the contractor, it's in the city now circulating the legal department and.

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Finance to make sure everything's correct and then we'll sign it so it'll be signed in a few days.

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um And so three big things that are happening in the contract are three big uh workshops that the.

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Contractors, you know set up to do and we've talked to them about outreach in the community and not.

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Just having your traditional workshop and the library kind of thing, but not knowing what all.

I

Those other outreach opportunities are, and that's how they've structured it so we've talked to them.

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About um see what kind of response we get from the outreach they plan, and it's not just those.

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Workshops but the three workshops are going to be basically introducing you know, climate action.

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And what people can do and what it means? The second one will be more taking in input getting.

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Gathering support and uh preferences from the community on what they want to see and then the.

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Third is kind of the overall conclusion of where we're going and what the cap's going to look like.

I

Maybe even the cap itself being presented, um so if you think about it in those three sort.

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Of terms, the contractor is going to have a lot of work cut out for them to do all the work with.

I

Those, but what I was thinking was this group works with climate action. Other groups in the.

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Community could be at the same time taking out the the sort of the slide deck or the message.

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That that contractor puts together and bringing it out to different presentations, different.

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Places in the community, so what I want to try to do is see who we can get to assess help with.

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That who has interests and assisting with that, whether a group or a person or a organization.

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Just to try to broaden our reach because just having the contractor go out, they're not going.

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To reach everyone, how do we reach everyone in each of these phases and still think about it in these.

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Three phases that we're going to try to do so that we follow along work of the cap. We still.

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Are able to get the cap done in the time frame? We want to get it done in with less than a year.

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um But it really could strengthen and energize it. I think events like this are perfect for bringing.

I

Messages out where we are in the process setting up our own events as well and then.

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um You know taking it on the road if you will to different places, so that's kind of how we're.

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Thinking about it right now, once we sit down with the contractor and we'll get more, you know.

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Do initial we haven't done an initial meeting with them. We've had rf proposal meetings, but we.

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Haven't had them with the contract in hand to start to start the work of what we're actually.

I

Doing but that's really what I'm looking at and so I'm really excited to hear. There's a lot of.

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Energy from and a plan really going forward for a community group because to have that synergy is.

I

Going to be really helpful, the city and the community that are working together towards.

I

A common goal, and then we just have to map out how that's all going to work. But I see that you.

I

Know it's a lot easier, knowing there's a segment at the community. That's working on this effort.

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Already and then we'll just put some structure: do it from the climate action plan, side reaction.

I

I think that's the thing, the big piece I wanted to say yeah.

A

Can you repeat the three three phases of faces so three they described it in their contract has.

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Three different workshops: the first one is really introduction and uh engagement piece.

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Where we bring people together and talk about what a climate actually plan is, so what they're.

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Trying to achieve and to get a little bit of input, those ideas of surveys might come a little bit at.

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That point, but mainly the second workshop, would be where there'll be a lot more gathering information.

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Bringing people in and getting their preferences for what types of uh greenhouse gases, gas emission.

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Reductions targets people want to see what the tolerance is and the community for that. What.

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Looks like we don't want to set because targets that kind of thing, and then the third thing.

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A presentation back to the community at what they've heard what they found fine-tuning things.

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That they heard from the community- um and so those are the three and each one there'll be.

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Presentations and what I'm going to talk to them about is making those presentations broader than.

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Just those meetings but other public a lot of those those segments, so three different phases.

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Let me feedback.

E

They want to introduce in a workshop and provide the community to hear what is a crime management.

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Present what it did to request- and you know- we've been working on it for a couple of years now and.

E

When we started it anyway, so this would be initial a timing action plan is this and.

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This is running pricing, then the expert is get information from the community. That information.

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Would be what already exists all these different organizations, this committee, other committees,.

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What's happening, am I running about more than that? I think they want to get they're.

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Going to get a take on the community what the community wants, what do they want to see? What.

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Do they want to set for targets? What are they willing to do right, get more feedback and forth.

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Input into the contract so uh getting that information, that's going to be an important.

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Design and I'm assuming they have some pretty good experience in bringing community together and.

E

Getting input interactive groups and guidelines, what I'm saying is we want to brought about beyond.

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What they can do, what can we do with them so having them set it up, but that is people that will.

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Take it beyond that, so it'll, be, you know, think of it. What can other people think about? So what could.

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Someone presented to a school to a school group or one consumer protection, their organization.

E

Well, because I'm thinking that we have the west standard.

E

And the planning department had a kind of dialogue and everybody wanted to decide.

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That was very interactive and got the community that was existing.

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There in state of what they run, then they came out in the division.

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Right and so I think of that as one effort that a contractor set up and read, but that.

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Effort at certain goals and components to it that effort would be replicated by community members.

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Or others that are interested on a different state, different scales, but that we're getting that input.

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From different places, we're going to try to get the equity piece of the rest of the community, it's.

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Not just going to be come to our public meeting and get your input. That's what I want to push.

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That how do we grow so we have a history, of course, comparisons that went for many years trying to get.

E

This interactive fashion, so we already have that as part of our culture is that kind of.

E

Enforcement business was still active right now we could say we can combine with them to.

A

Replicate the content and use that as a dialogue that listens at each phase of this workshop.

I

Segmentation, multiple things, so it could be a couple things in the first one, a couple things.

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I got a couple of them or just three, however, but that's the kind of thing that we need to flash out.

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And before we flush that out, we have to figure out what the contract is.

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That's right and then at the same time.

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And bring as much energy because, culturally, what I see you want to do is we want to get a community.

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That has cultural archetypes of interaction with the government.

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Private sector, business and organizations- that's in huge systems, so that's where.

A

Has this design that's kind of what I was saying? We have a really unique community here in some of.

E

Those things already being established covet kind of put it on the back burner as we come.

A

Into a new phase the climate action plan, I think we want to do from my perspective.

A

A renaissance of community interaction academy, so that's, I think, where we're going, but I just.

A

Want to articulate that if that makes sense, all right to that and right there be a benefit of us.

A

Trying to collaborate with the cdy neighborhoods committee for sure one of the groups that I was.

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Thinking that someone maybe go present to or that may have someone work with the contractor that.

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You know that's part of that, that's in their plan too, but yeah. I think it would be important.

B

That's exactly what I was going to say, um even if the citywide neighborhood committee.

B

Isn't doing it the people there or who are all part of their neighborhood of organizations.

A

um I was also wondering, um since this all got launched through efforts of.

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This committee would it be possible to get these contractors to come to one of our meetings soon and just give us a quick presentation on.

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Taking a budget in a tangent, so yeah that's right, but I just kind of we're just gonna figure.

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Out how that is, but I'd like it to be getting them this input. Maybe people can think about.

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Where they can bring people into the process as community people, it was back. So this is, you know.

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um When they come, I think we want to have them to do something. Make them work a little bit.

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While they're here just presenting and so we're trying to figure out what that work is but yeah.

B

It's kosher to get her to distribute the proposal or the their proposal. Yeah for sure. You know like.

I

Because I know we know you've told us who it is, but maybe that would be really helpful for us.

B

Yeah, whatever material contract and they had a scope lined out and they tried to scope into the.

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Phases so it's pretty similar but yeah um yeah, I'm thinking like contract, but then I know with a lot.

B

Of proposals, you know, there's a lot of selling yourself, that's all cool to know. You know like.

A

Okay, this is the personality of this consultant, so I think, maybe that that's a question is.

F

H

Of the contractor's proposal you sent it to the group yeah, you got the proposal um peter. What's.

H

The yeah peter, what's the expected time frame for the contract going through the city departments,.

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uh It should take too long, I'm hoping I I thought I'd be. The whole thing will.

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Be done right now, but it should be done by the end of this week. This next week.

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But it's it's! uh It's just this morning started its way around.

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If I don't hear anything back by the end of next week, I'll be pestering.

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But it should are we passing along all the report backs also that we've.

B

Received already like from the tcad from green buildings from you know, all these.

B

Subcommittees and all the work that's already been done too, but yeah, the consultant yeah.

A

I just would hate for them to come to present yeah to present.

B

To us and not realize the volume of work, that's already being done.

D

So uh that also, you know um december 16th. So if anyone wants to go back and check.

A

Okay, any other comments together.

A

Yay, it's always a lucky break to be at the end of the day, whenever.

A

Your summary one of the pleasures of coming to this meeting at rtk.

G

Has met for about five months completely, there's no way. I've ever actually seen this guy after.

G

Zoom calls every weekend and uh ken is the last tcag members to come to the sustainable practices.

G

I met the other other members in november uh november and december and um uh kate has sent.

G

Out our topic briefings, you may remember, we had five five topics and strategies and in december.

G

We did a short version of it uh next next slide. Please and our our vision very much focused on.

G

The cap developed climate-friendly transportation solutions as input for the cap uh next slide and.

G

I think what uh considering the time available, I think that what we'll do now is just a real.

G

Quick refresh- and I think, maybe second or third to food, probably transportation- is something.

G

People love to talk about and when we presented these ideas earlier, we didn't have a lot of time.

G

But we- uh I guess, at the november meeting, had a lot of discussions on these. uh These topics.

G

We didn't have a lot of time to go into it. Then uh we don't have a lot of time to go into them in.

G

Detail now, and I think what we might do is just ask, uh I think, hopefully, some of you have had a.

G

Chance to look at the the longer version of that we've got uh two to three pages briefing pieces.

G

On each of these five topics and each of the has portsmouth context, it has best practices drawn.

G

From up here, communities caps as well as related planning activities for some really innovative.

G

Transportation activities that can reduce greenhouse gas emissions and then we had a set of.

G

Strategies that might be five to ten for each of the five topics and uh you'll see that really the.

G

Core the core topics- and these are universals, I think- could safely say if you go to every uh best.

G

Practice cap and I think, we've seen the inventory that that uh fe and urban- I think jess and others.

G

Put together of caps, uh you'll you'll see those bottom three you'll see the shared mobility, which.

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Is public transit you'll, see bike and pedestrian and you'll see alternative fuels and electric.

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Vehicles, those are really foundational and we were very excited to add the land use alignment.

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Of land use and development with transportation, current and future, and that was the one that.

G

And ferrera uh led- and I think is really an interesting one and I think it's just really.

G

Key to getting people to do the two things that it takes to reduce transportation greenhouse gases in.

G

In portsmouth and and everywhere around the world and that's a mode shift shift to sustainable modes.

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Green modes uh away from personal fossil fuel burning cars and other vehicles and shifting.

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To alternative fuels, especially bb, so those those two things and the ev, the bike ped and the shared.

G

Mobility, public transit are are really core. I think the land use is really foundational.

G

And the community engagement is transportation. Community engagement, the important part of that.

G

And hopefully that will be an important part of the cap. Community engagement and you'll see really.

G

What we were focusing on each of each of those, the land use to reduce travel distance between home.

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And work so that that's a really kind complex, but very critical item, evs, really building out.

G

The charging infrastructure, the bike ped and the shared mobility really shifting out of personal.

G

Vehicles and that ties in very nicely with uh some of the things that jazz was talking about.

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um Earlier, moving away or or the that kate mentioned, uh let's say an uh condos and apartments.

G

Having shared vehicles rather than the personal vehicles, taking up space and sitting idly for.

G

23 out of 24 hours a day and a day or two out of the week for many people uh next slide.

G

We we presented a a favorite priority strategy for each of those five. uh The shared mobility.

G

And public transit: this is something that would complement uh existing coast and.

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Wildcat service which is really underused and I think, obscenely underfunded. If you look at some.

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Of the information, that's on the new hampshire d.o.t website, put together by the national.

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Planning, commission you see how little money is available in new hampshire uh communities.

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In statewide, it's it's a miracle that coast puts out what they're able to do so we were.

G

Thinking of something that would uh fill a niche that would be really innovative. A.

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Shuttle loop that would allow people to get uh between key destinations in portsmouth a lot.

G

Of trips that you take now on coast, and that's one of the reasons people don't take it is it.

G

At best, it runs hourly, and if you want to get from one key location to another, you actually have to.

G

Come into the center and transfer to go out in many cases, so this would be something and in each.

G

Of our topics, we looked at best practices. This best practice uh suggestion is modeled on savannah.

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Charleston and burlington, which has a public-private partnership where the city partners.

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um Often, with the hospitality industry and developers to run a free circular, shuttle in.

G

The case of portsmouth, it could be an eb shuttle, it could have a flexible or uh fixed schedule. It.

G

Could be a traditional bus, but it's, uh I think, our one big idea on this and I I think, if certainly if.

G

There was something like that available where you could know exactly when you could get on.

G

It to go to to peas or down route one or uh out out to newington. That's just a continuous circle.

G

um That could complement what's there for the bike, pedestrian. We have a an excellent city.

G

Bike pedestrian plan uh and our idea for that is to update it and then to use that to complete gaps.

G

And identify priority quarters, and that really is something that's underway. But I think the big.

G

Change here is we're now talking about the cap, so it isn't just doing good bike. Ped projects.

G

Or running a nice hopefully well used new public transit shuttle, but having this then.

G

Become key parts of a future greenhouse gas production target for the city of portsmouth.

G

um The legit just stop on those two, I mean the land use transportation. We could talk about for a.

G

Really a full meeting, and maybe we can do that some other time when we can get ken here. The.

G

15-Minute city is something that we really like. There are parts of portsmouth that are virtually.

G

15-Minute cities, so the question is how to make those uh stronger and how to identify future ones.

G

Around combined land use and transportation plans and projects- and I I think that I'll stop there.

G

There really isn't enough time and everyone's too tired to get into this individually. What.

G

I would say is: if you haven't looked at our briefing, a document that sent out uh it would.

G

Be great if you gave it another look and maybe we'll have a chance to get into those in more.

G

Detail another time, maybe a a subgroup of really interested people to really dig into that. Maybe.

G

We can do that with with the cap consultant with stakeholders. I mean it's really pretty.

G

Open-Ended and I think what we did was lay out ideas and frame these things, and what uh what I.

G

Think I'd like to do in the next few minutes is just considering what peter said about the cap.

G

And other discussion on the community engagement talk a bit about how we can build on what we've.

G

Done loreline, oh yeah, I just wanted to ask you to explain what a 15-minute sink is foreign.

B

In essence, were you trying to do with land use in transportation? It's actually a very.

C

Like systematic approach of trying to get people to most shift and the way to do that best is to.

B

Have services homes, retail everything in a kind of radius that is either walkable or.

B

Achievable through transit uh or other modes in less than 50 minutes, um so you can. You know you.

C

Can go to the bank to your house to school and then come back and it's it's a very comfortable.

C

Trip to do outside of the car so to meet as many of your needs and to take as many as your trips as.

G

Possible, it probably wouldn't be a hundred percent, but as many as possible and very conscious design.

G

uh The future developments and align that with uh bike paths, sidewalks and accessible transits.

G

So you can get as much done as possible within 15 minutes um from a government perspective. Looking.

C

At when you're going to build a facility, it's like oh, how close a population center or or where a lot.

C

Of people live uh if you're going to build some school or some like service and it's outs. Nowhere.

C

But in the middle of nowhere, if there's no no land or it's like a cheaper land, then is that.

C

Good portsmouth is small, twenty thousand yeah population, but it's compact. It has some great.

G

Opportunities for about that, you wouldn't find in other communities uh if, if you're interested.

G

In the concepts, I think it's 20-minute city for paris look at their mayor and city leadership.

G

Have really really stressed that and backed that up with investments in bike, pedestrian.

G

And transit facilities, and that is a priority versus building new new roads in a new expressways.

G

um Maybe if there are any quick comments on this package of topics uh or reactions,.

G

And then like to think a little bit about uh next next steps, how tk can support the captain.

G

But being a first grade teacher, I love you keep bringing this slide up, because every time I see.

A

It, oh that's what he's talking about so thank you keep coming back you. You said. You said that before.

G

And I appreciate it very well yeah, it's true, I think now I look at it and it it's just like we.

E

Were not familiar with what a climate action plan now, it's part of the culture, I think what you're.

E

Doing is helping make the transportation, and course like co-benefits, and that kind of keeps.

E

Coming in and it starts to create a common culture that brings us all together, so I appreciate that.

G

That common culture is very much for the transportation community engagement because.

G

People uh to follow any of these strategies need to change. Behavior and behavior is very lost in.

G

That it's really got to be part of uh outreach, uh education and incentives, and I think that has to.

G

Be we have transportation, which is the dominant greenhouse gas, emitter, 30 or so on average. If, if.

G

That's part of the source of portsmouth greenhouse gases. It's got to be part of the solution and.

G

That's uh it's a tricky business and I, I think we approach our five topics as closely related.

G

All these things are connected, they're not done in isolation. If they're done in isolation, they fail.

G

Did you have a, I thought I saw your hand up a sec nope.

G

Okay, uh well, I'm sorry, you probably saw me thinking.

H

What I was thinking about is what uh peter mentioned about the contractor getting.

H

Preferences from the community and I'm thinking well, if we say that transportation is a major.

H

Chunk of the greenhouse gases, so you all in the community should be thinking of that and putting.

H

That as a priority- and I I don't really know how that happens, with community engagement and I'm.

H

Not saying I have the answer, but that's what I was thinking about and clearly a presentation.

H

Bill like your group put together, leads the way, I think so. I think the question is: how does that.

G

Then blend into the community engagement, so the community members and stakeholders can look at.

G

That and say some of these things make sense. Some things don't make sense. uh We like this.

G

We don't like that and it becomes part of it. So the consultant isn't starting with the blank page.

G

So how to do that is the question: how do you do that and when to do that- and I think peter you.

G

You're sort of alluding through that, when you said potentially, multiple supportive.

G

Activities around these three workshops and the timing- and this overall strategy I think, is.

G

Seems key yeah if your groups will like maybe some presentations with the support of the contractor.

G

Or fitting into the contractors we're flat it's the west coast topic: openers, no yeah! This is a.

G

Done deal but uh food for thought right right for fun right, I just want to say thank you for all the.

B

Work, you have been putting in the resources that you're creating are incredibly helpful and I think.

B

Especially as we move into this stage of really trying to educate and get information, that's okay,.

B

Comes from a portsmouth perspective to people in the community, things like the resources like.

B

The sheets that you've created are incredibly helpful, for that um makes it something that.

B

People can be introduced to, but then go home and be more into and get more involved into.

B

If I want to do rather than you know, it's a lot of these things are pretty big concepts to just.

B

Learn in a presentation and feel like you got it all, so thank you. Thank you on behalf of the.

G

Group and I have to admit that the group I think, began more as transportation people and climate.

G

People- and I think so it's much easier to talk about transportation than it is to talk about.

G

Transportation and climate energy anymore, I think what it is, so I think, over five months I think.

G

I come around as a group to keep focusing on really where's the bank of the book yeah and.

B

Then, on the other side, there's a couple things that we've been doing on that green building.

B

And the land use and some of the ev conversation camps to make sure that the co-medicates that we.

B

Were talking about, and so many of these studies are not individual, maybe maybe we.

G

Can have a follow-up meeting with you and just focus specifically on that and then.

G

Really that comes under the primarily the land use side, yeah, but then it's the transportation.

G

Connections, community and canada is really the key resource and I think whenever we can.

G

Have these follow-ups, I know I've had really good discussions well with the people on the.

G

Climate action weekly, but with john and john and I'm talking to chas on on monday.

G

About some of his some of his ideas, so it's it's so really kind of a catalyst. Hopefully.

A

A

Anybody have anything else in the next four minutes. Well, we witness to identify, because.

E

I'm looking at the chart, so we identify uh who will be facilitating the next minion.

E

And uh I have this, for the disciple has gotten off young purgatory john kennedy was supposed.

E

To be tonight, but I mean he's created with somebody who does anybody have any clarity.

E

On who's doing what margo was going to take the minutes, but she couldn't make.

E

It tonight so next month, it's supposed to be my goal, is facilitating and aubry as business.

I

Thank you. Okay,.

B

There is there's an updated sheet, I think john switched around for next week. So next.

A

You better actually be margo and aubrey, and then let's do it. Let's do it by the.

E

Sheep, because she'll she can come in and yeah well so, but what if we do aubry margo? That is.

A

A

E

This is another historic meeting ranking records. We have 20 people present.

E

Never had that of a meeting like this. Our culture is changing the specificity of.

E

What's happening is more concrete, grounded and uh and on this a little bit or not, but you know.

I

um I'm really excited about the work that these guys are doing with birthday and.

I

uh Volunteer work, that's going on is pretty impressive and the timing couldn't be better.

I

To bring in with the climate action plan I'd be pretty excited it's going to be better this year.

B

uh Well, I'm just kind of not like, like oh what you guys are doing, uh and I uh thank you for.

C

Like inviting us in as well and uh I'll say the same thing, I said last night at the person with.

G

Support smith, climate action group about community action and uh all the great stuff that's going.

G

On in the energy- and I particularly enjoyed genesis, presentation and started thinking of.

G

The differences between leasing, something and a trip oriented service where you don't have a car.

G

You don't have to like you, don't have a motor scooter uh that you have access to something.

G

That's shared per trip and I'm having coffee with him on monday and I'll bring up that point.

F

uh Herb, I'm just excited by energized by the enthusiasm.

F

This group and then also there's the portsmouth climate climate action group. um You know whether.

F

It's green building and I'd like to hear more about what's going on with green building.

F

Because when you guys have presented in the past, there's been some really exciting uh topics there.

F

But so whether it's that or tcag tcag every time you guys present, I get excited when I first heard.

F

About tcag, I thought we're just a small little town, like from a transportation perspective, how.

F

Can we really have impacts- and you guys have just completely opened my eyes and blown me away- that.

F

You know even the town like portsmouth there's so many opportunities that I didn't realize so.

F

It's infectious enthusiasm and, as bert has said, I think it just every time we get together. It builds.

F

Okay, greater and greater, so thank you so john. This may sound a little repetitive.

G

But very excited about. What's going on with the earth day, thank you jess. The tk step is.

A

Helping a time to agree every time you guys speak, I feel like. I learn a lot more and all.

D

The work that's going on with the cap and the fact that we're about to execute it's exciting.

G

To see all of this stuff happening, but the synergies that are available now that all.

G

These engines are spinning up, they can be seared the turbines going. It's a very exciting energy.

D

uh My takeaway is homework.

D

And there's a lot of great stuff in there and I'm going to try and familiarize myself.

D

As much as possible with here, because I think it's, I think it's something.

D

Consultants are going to need to hear and implement transportation team, probably the.

D

Most challenging aspect of the private action plan, uh so it would be well served. Everyone.

D

That sort of familiarize ourselves as much as possible as you would and thank you.

B

When I'm sitting here, I can't help but think that this our new consultant is.

B

Going to be a little overwhelmed, but all the work that's being done already and.

B

They're going to wonder if they can keep up with us, so I think that that's exciting.

C

I'm just inspired by all that's going on and everything I've heard and overwhelmed.

C

Trying to keep notes, but there are speakers jess that get bill and I'll be reaching out.

C

Yeah I was commenting to ben earlier today that I think today is my one year anniversary.

B

On this committee and looking back, I'm just so odd, with how much progress has been made.

B

Thus far, for example, I understand all these acronyms and abbreviations.

B

So much fun, uh but I'm mostly really excited, especially comparing last year's earth day.

B

With what this year's is going to be, we had a student-led rally last year. Now it's something.

B

That's not going to just encompass students, but the whole community yeah, and it's so cool to.

B

Put you know something that you know a couple: students care about into the greater context.

B

Of our community and how many people are really striving towards the school and community makes it.

B

Makes this uh challenge so much more rejuvenating to tackle so very grateful for you all here today.

E

Yeah, I heard the word synergy over here and I like that. That word synergy and also um over a.

F

Big a little overwhelmed with how many things are happening and and how many things are connected. I.

G

Mean they're all connected, but how many things are uh feeding into each other and building off.

A

Of each other- and it's just fun, to see um just the procedure of how something like this, that.

B

We've been maybe started talking about. I looked looked at my linkedin. I I started coming to these.

B

um Almost two years ago- and none of this was happening and the word cap to me- I would think.

F

Of like a water bottle and uh there's a lot of things that I just acronyms are us yeah yeah.

F

Well, just just the acronyms alone have been my boy, but it's it's been such an education. So I'm always.

A

Happy to come, you know, like I met the nexus of whatever and the sydney's doing for sustainability.

C

None of this was definitely happening rita nine years ago, so I'm very excited.

C

That next week, the contract or the cast should be uh done deal. Thank you.

C

uh I'll, second, that I'm really excited about this coming together, which is awesome, and I'm also very.

A

Excited about all birthday stuff, so, thanks for all the effort for community engagement groups.

B

The connections with the library they're just talking about that's, really really going to be.

A

A great asset to have, um and just having looked at the contract peter and we got over with so there.

B

Are obviously they don't have the largest budget? And there are so many areas where we're going to.

A

Need more community engagement and what they are available to give to us and it's exciting to know.

A

That we have that capacity as this group and that we've made so many connections. And we have.

A

So many great platforms, so we can reach out to so we've been really really exciting. It's coming.

A

Awesome- and I will finish this off by saying that I was brought into this.

B

Whole realm, because of the cap because of john and of course I took with him at unh.

B

And he was like you should come to this meeting and now here I am, I here later.

B

So it's very cool to see it come kind of her full circle and now we're about.

B

To see that product started, we have two more people. I do want to mention that a.

E

Couple of us had lunch with larry. We were in they've, been on the committee for eight.

E

Years and if some of you remember the part of it, he was presented that today, I think.

E

Was a meeting for me so thank you and I think there are two people just stand up.

B

um Yeah, I would also say that I'm really excited to hear that we might actually have a contract.

B

Signed with the consultant, so the cap can really start to come together. So that's really exciting.

B

And I would also say that you make me all hopeful having a three and a four-year-old who did their.

B

First, chair lift runs today up here. I worry about how many years of skiing they'll get to do, but.

B

um With all the efforts of all of you, maybe it'll it'll be something.

B

That they can do for longer than I than I think right now,.

H

Yeah, I'm just excited about everything going on I'm down in column, puerto rico,.

H

And I can't wait to be back in portsmouth, so thanks everybody.

H

A

B

Being adjourned thanks, everybody, everybody.