City of Portsmouth, New Hampshire Sustainable Practices, 28 Jul 2022

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7.28.2022 Sustainable Practices Blue Ribbon Committee

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Oh recording in progress, sorry I leave it to the wrong recording, stopped.

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Recording in progress right thanks, Josh those just joining us like to welcome you to the.

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Living room committee on sustainable practices, meeting of July 28th, so I'm going to start by.

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Calling to meet the order next is acceptance of minutes from the June 23rd meeting. Is there any.

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Is there a motion to accept the minutes motion motion made.

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A second, so are there any proposed amendments needed all right and what I recently learned.

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Is you actually don't have to vote on minutes? If there's no amendments yeah, that's always new to.

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Me as far as new business goes, we spent a lot of time on the climate action plan. Do you feel.

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Comfortable bringing everyone else up to speed I would look to Peter all right for that. Sorry.

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Peter I'm. Sorry, that's fine! As long as I have to tell more about. Oh I did have the living system.

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Part but I'm the guy in theory, but I couldn't go much further than that. I thought it was like.

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Mother Earth and living system, so yeah, that's you were you. You got the language all right, Mother.

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Earth and living systems right yep, that's what I remember! That's all I remember um so. The climate.

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Action Plan update is that we have a draft that is complete other than a few edits. We run it by the.

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City manager and the planning director and we're going to get it circulated has to go through the.

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City get some budget numbers, get sign-offs from different departments, put the finances together.

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um It's going to go out probably the end of next week. I imagine would be the time frame.

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um We haven't really decided how many weeks to give the consultant, but we were initially.

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Thinking three or four: we don't want to wait too long because it'll, you know we'll have to wait.

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For those to come back, then we have to review it. Then we might have to interviews. So it's going to.

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Add to the time frame, we want to keep get going as fast as possible, but we also don't want to.

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Rush it so, but I'm thinking we'll probably do four weeks. It seems like a reasonable time. I don't know.

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You do a lot of contracts, it's that's! That's not unusual right and it's I think it's pretty typical.

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Three-Bix feels a little rushed for people as long as that for first push is a push. Yep I think four.

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Weeks I mean most of them are gonna, have pretty they're gonna have templates to work off of for.

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This type of thing, so it's not like it- should take them four weeks to put proposal together.

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We might if we get holed up in getting it out. We might go three weeks, but right now the plan.

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Is four weeks so it'll be so five weeks from now we'll get it on the street and then it'll, probably.

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Take another month or so between reviewing it and interviews and all that to get it going.

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So that's where we are in terms of content. You know the committee has talked about that. A lot.

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Or if there's questions I can answer them, but I won't go into too much detail on that. But.

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The big big concepts are, you know huge public involvement based largely a lot of it anyway,.

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At least what we're going to do from the city, standpoint and volunteers might do different.

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Things, but in terms of the city, what we thought we would do is get City staff trained. We talked.

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To City staff the other day we're going to have an all-staff meeting and do like an Eco municipality.

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Approach to the training and then talk through the economic value lens of what climate action plan.

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Planning and work will look like a little easier at the city level than at the city-wide level. We.

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Thought we'd go with the same approach. We can talk more about how that looks, but getting people up to.

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Speed through what an Eco municipality is and then empowering people to make decisions through that.

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Lens seems like a good approach to go with um and so we're working on presentations and maybe.

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The thought is that we would train presenters. We have a lot of volunteers that are interested.

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Training presenters so that they can go to their Community groups or friends or, however, they want.

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To do it and give presentations to them, maybe they get people to come here and get more trainings.

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um That's the thought: those are the big picture, thoughts in terms of the Outreach.

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um And then, from there we'll see what actions we can get put in place. We are going to hold.

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Back we told the the amount in the RFB is eighty thousand dollars, not a hundred thousand dollars.

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And the thought on that is that we wanna finish the climate action plan and go right into some.

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Actions or bump up the Outreach, depending on what we feel like we need at that point. But the thought.

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Is that if we stop, when we finish comment action plan, we spent our eighty thousand dollars there's.

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Nothing in the budget left, then we can't do things if people. Hopefully we get a good response from.

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Consultants- and they can do it for 80 000. We found that Portsmith is a pretty desirable.

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Place to work, they can sell that to a lot of other communities if they did a private action.

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Plan here so they usually work a little harder to come here, which is a good thing about our.

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Community so I think it'll be all right to do: 80 000 and we we have a lot of work repaired already.

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So I think it's think it's doable for 80 000.. So that's my previous summary and I think that's a.

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Good segue mentioning the engagements the prior sustainability committee meeting we had talked.

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About forming a climate action plan, engagement subcommittee, anyone here be interested in joining.

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Such subcommittee, yeah and I think a number of people that worked on the climate action plan.

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Rfp committee with Peter were thinking of moving into a would anyone like to join that subcommittee.

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Is there how from was the problem? Are you meeting? Was it I'm sorry, our meeting weekly weekly.

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So if you're wondering what a commitment was you a little aggressive, yeah.

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Engagement, maybe they'll be a different okay, yeah.

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I know the greenhouse gas we're meeting every other week for that inventory.

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That that, and even that, feels like a lot yeah that was less aggressive.

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So I feel, like I'm, serve I'd, be happy to join the subcommittee, herb, Lloyd and sign me up.

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Get my feet wet. That's my second meeting all right.

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And as far as the city council presentation went, uh John Carter's not here, but he did.

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An excellent job: it was a long city council meeting. So the fact that he.

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Was one of the first presenters to go? I think worked really well and.

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um And hit all of the highlights, I don't know if there's any I don't want to emphasize anything.

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That he missed, but I can't think of a single thing that he missed and uh Kate. You were sitting.

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Up there with me any thoughts on the um cap presentation which was given by the subcommittee.

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uh People seem to be really taking in the information and really we're attuned to.

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um The attachments so I get the sense that the council.

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um Really felt that it was a needed update and that they appreciated the information.

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Thank you any other comments on that and I'm guilty of when I chair meetings to just plow.

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Right through the agenda, so at any point please uh jump in so next is Portsmouth climate Solutions. So.

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Bro I'm gonna turn that, over to you, Portsmouth climate Solutions uh has been meeting we're in.

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Our 42nd continuous meeting, uh starting with the drawdown uh seminars or classes that we had.

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uh And we are looking at a couple of things and we're going to get to the main one that.

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Is tonight with Transportation uh but Effie, would you like to just uh fill people in on uh public.

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Engagement, that's already going on, which is pretty exciting all right, so um it's great Justin, I and.

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You've been at the Portsmouth climate Solutions meeting on Wednesday nights and uh We've lately.

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Been talking about an interactive Community platform, for that would dovetail with the climate.

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Action plan, but the advantageous thing about the interactive Community platforms is, we could start.

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Next month, if we signed a contract with one of these uh software companies and there's a couple.

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We're looking at one is out of California called bright action and we have sites set up. So if you.

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Want to try it out and see the kinds of things we're talking about um to get in touch and we'll.

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Give the links or were they in the minutes earlier, maybe I'm not sure yeah Fred was going to put a.

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Million minutes the three of them in the minutes and anybody who every meets every Wednesday night.

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For one hour from uh on Wednesday evening, from seven to eight, we keep it tight and.

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There's usually minutes, if you miss, so you could catch up and if you want to get on the list.

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Ccf or Jess Jess is good either. One they're there for looking at is called Mass energize and we.

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Found it because we've been doing a lot of work with Concord Mass and their climate action plan.

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And I noticed an Affiliated organization. There called cooler Concord when I went to.

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Their website at the very bottom in small print, it said, powered by mass energize and I thought. What's.

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That they're non-profit and they just do these sites for communities for private action plans.

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So I talked to one of their leaders and they're eager to work with us and eager.

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To work potentially with UNH sustainability, Institute for most of their sites right now are.

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All in Massachusetts, so this would be breaking new territory for them to come to Portsmouth and work.

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With UNH another site, I found out from Christina Dubin is called grits and I'm, not as clear about.

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That site I think it's more of a dashboard than an interactive Community platform. But it's not all.

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Universities and colleges they do have some towns using grits I forget, which ones maybe Andover and.

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Worcester and a few others, so we're going to be looking at all those one thing: I wanted to bring.

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Up before we moved to transportation is to say that we'd love to have some students from the.

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Eco Club test the platforms and give us feedbacks feedback. We're trying to generate questions for.

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The different vendors, because we'd like to go ahead and and sign up for one of these platforms.

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Okay, is that the type of thing that would come out of the twenty thousand Reserve that Peter.

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Was talking about it's interesting um I think it was Anne Bliss originally who knew of uh or Bert.

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You told us originally the draw down money that the Rotary International is giving Grand so and.

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We feel like we'd, have a good shot at that money and it's not a lot of money. We're talking about.

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um There's a setup, a startup fee and then the maintenance fee, maybe on the they're different.

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Price levels, depending on what model you go for good, better best, maybe but maybe between two and.

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Five thousand dollars, so the thought is this would be independent of a City website right at least.

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For now, anyways I think yeah, yeah and I did notice a lot of the city. The cities I looked at, have a.

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City dashboard and this community website I mean it's just unusual, but but in a good way, I mean to.

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Have that Community strength doing something that they stand up on their own? It kind of shows a lot.

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For the community- and we obviously would come back and discuss it with this group before we would let.

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A contract on it, but maybe we could demonstrate it here- yeah I'd, love to see it and and sure we have.

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In the RFP we have called out some kind of dashboard or Community component, and we just have.

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To think about how that works, whether we need it or don't need it depending on how this goes. Yeah.

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If we use Concord Mass as an example, the city website, when you go to their five sectors, their.

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Five topics like energy Mobility, whatever, when you click on it, it says what you can do and that takes.

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You to community actions and it's similar to the interactive dashboard, but it just lists them if.

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You go to the interactive Community products that we're looking at. It would say these are.

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The things you can do this is minimal effort. This will take a lot of thought and effort and planning.

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This is easy. This is expensive. um Here's a testimonial from your neighbor who already.

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Installed heat pumps and and how they did so it's it's just more Interactive.

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I'd like to just comment uh for the Eco Club.

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One of the things that I think uh Portsmouth climate, Solutions and investigating this is.

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And it goes for the in general, we want things that are effective and Effie I think we should just say.

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Butter, the sum of the plus and minuses, and do you want to share what you got from one of the city.

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Managers in regard to how effective or who they got as a population or should I do what I remember.

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Or Jess did you do you? Were you the one who called Okay so yeah? So the reason you.

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Shouldn't be sure, because my memory is wrong, it was yes, so yes, that was very interesting, um so.

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Spoke with a woman from Milwaukee Oregon, um they are just south of Portland a little.

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Similar to us, because they are on the river about the same population, size.

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um And one of the things she said they had their own interactive dashboard created as part of their.

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Community Action Plan and their public Outreach plan um and when I asked her about that, she said.

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That the engagement was kind of there was a lot of initial engagement. Then it kind of petered off and.

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That the people who tended to be engaged with it were the people who were already motivated.

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And trying to take action and do things and then you know some of the people who were less aware.

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Or less involved tended not to engage so much so that those are actually my questions is: how do we.

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Keep people engaged and how do we really create it? So it's more Universal, Universal and Equitable.

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For everybody to get more people involved and committed, because some of the initial things.

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That we noticed about them are sometimes they can be skewed more towards homeowners. So if.

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You're, a renter or anything it might not find it so user-friendly because a lot of it might not.

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Apply to you, so um those are some of my questions about for them moving forward, but that was the.

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Feedback that I initially got and that that was interesting to me and I, bring it up here.

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Because Ben, if you had friends or family or five or ten things, I think to test it on a population.

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The real bottom line is it worth putting energy money and time into if it doesn't change, Behavior.

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Or engage people if it just looks good, and so, if you even had five people and get their.

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Feedback wonder: do they think other students? Okay, that's the kind of thing. If you were interested.

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I'd be interested too, if there's a.

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One is if there's a data side to it, I know for the greenhouse gas inventory right now we're working.

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On municipality level, because that's information that we can easily get but as that expands to the.

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Community level things get a little grayer and there's a lot more assumptions. A lot of those.

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Assumptions are based on pretty large populations, because we simply don't have the information for.

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Our city, um so you know crowdsourcing, this is there even if it does, you know, Baseline.

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Of this, many people on the app are using oil heating oil. You know, and this many people have.

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Installed heat pumps, at least that allows us to look at our numbers and we'll have some type of.

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Comparison: okay, are we even all right ballpark, you know, um I I, think that would be really useful.

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um On the other side of that information, collection on apps is something that I think.

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Deters a lot of people and so making like asking them what those kind of private see.

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Like is there a privacy setting like you, don't want to be a neighbor whose neighbor.

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Knows how much you spent on the heat pumps or whatever but you're? Okay with that information.

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Yeah for like as an aggregate data collection, um you know, is that something that they're those.

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They're they're aware yeah yeah. The first question is a question: that's been brought up by the.

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um The someone in the Portsmouth climate Solutions already like are you keeping data.

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Is there a way that you can see the use of your dashboard shifting greenhouse gas emissions and.

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Totals and those things yeah that is and I think, aside from the tracking I, think.

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From what I've seen I think it's a useful tool for educating people, because you know everybody seems.

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Like they're against climate change or not they're, not, let's, say a lot of people in portsmen, but they.

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Don't know what to do so, they come to me and say: what should I do so there's you know a list of.

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Things on this website, whether it's Transportation or energy, or your home and weatherization and.

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A lot of areas where people can do things and then they see. Oh you want me to change.

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My lifestyle, you want me to to do this or that and they might be resistant, but then.

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Seeing your neighbors do it I think it's one way to help build a movement just one piece.

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Or any or all of the three to set a curiosity using like I, don't know gamification on.

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The app to make it like interesting and engaging, and whatever you get little things.

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Very cool any other comments from the portion of climate Solutions meetings this past, but that was.

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From the that's just the dashboard, now we go over to transportation and uh just to contextualize.

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You want to show these slides right now, yeah, so thank you, Peter yeah. Now the thing.

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That uh we're always talking about how rich and valuable our community is in terms of.

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Having folks who have experience, and so Bill uh is somebody who uh is in a position now, where.

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He is able to take what he would do on a bigger scale and because he's been here in Portsmouth.

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uh His wealth of knowledge uh he's looking for a place to best intersect with our system. Our.

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Committee other committee and maybe even a small group of how to get uh Transportation uh talked.

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About Community engagement and the climate action plan, how do we get things going and so I bill has.

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Put some good energy into the slides and go for a bill and then we'll have some questions. Okay,.

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Thank you very much Bert and uh Peter. If you could do the next slide. Okay, um at the limit.

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Of my technology here, but I thought I think I can do it. I did a few hard copies that will be totally.

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Unreadable, especially in the dark, but just in case you wanted to take I, think I'll get it away.

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As uh Bert mentioned uh from a long time, Portsmouth resident sorry 40 years, okay, sorry Bill.

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40 years Portsmouth resident in 40 years, working for the uh think tank for the U.S.

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Department of Transportation in uh Cambridge and um with an ashamedly high carbon footprint, both.

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From my commute and the fact that the last seven years of my career I've been working on economic.

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Development in fragile countries and a lot of this over the years has involved the intersection of.

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Transportation and climate change uh year after year, working with regional planning organizations.

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Or Metropolitan planning organizations so that the Seacoast Metropolitan planning organization is the.

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One that serves this area both on the regulatory side and on the best practices, research side. So.

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It's transportation and fill in the bank blank on Innovation and that's a very serious look at.

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Best Practices for considering climate change in that and the last seven years working on economic.

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Development for the government federal government in places like Nepal and Sri, Lanka and Malawi and.

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Mozambique and places I couldn't really find on the map uh before I started, started working.

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There, but combined with that, probably over the last 15 years being involved in every.

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Transportation sustainability activity that I heard of and could find the time to work on so.

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Lots of lots of activity with Portsmouth smart growth, the mayor's Blue Ribbon transport policy,.

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Committee, the bike ped citizens committee for the bike, ped plan transport panel for McIntyre.

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So lots lots and lots of different things, so I I know the the lay of the land on the Portsmouth.

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City, particularly on sustainability activities over the last three weeks, I've been working with.

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The climate solutions group, in probably four or five people sitting around the table, have helped.

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Shape this idea for a possible activity that would be a particular Focus planning and action.

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Oriented Focus sort of an early early start or an energized Act activity wherever it's useful.

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In the timeline that would focus on Transportation, the goals are pretty straightforward: amuse improve.

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Community understanding of Transport strategies to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, help frame.

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The approach to transport collaborate on shared ideas to start generating some ideas on promising.

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Activities early input to the RFP, which sounds like it's really pretty pretty well done, but.

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Generating ideas for the Community Action climate action plan and as Peter mentioned, the community.

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Engagement is going to be a key part going into it and developing it, and certainly coming out.

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Of it so I guess the the question that we would love to get some feedback on is how how could.

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This be a transportation overlay that might be a model for other sectors as well. We talked about.

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Developing something that could be replicated with other other sectors next slide. Please.

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The idea, of course, is to apply the three pillars of sustainability, and these really could be.

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Criteria for screening uh possible strategies- and you you see some of the possible strategies and.

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I would guess uh that uh probably every plan, or almost all plans have these sorts of strategies.

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For transport, in a in a cap, uh there's just basic things: mode shifts from single occupant vehicles.

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To uh ride sharing and to public transit uh really tapping into the all the new Mobility types of.

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Activities that are underway with um with apps and digitalization the sorts of things you can.

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See now on Google Google Maps, but much more sophisticated I think in Portsmouth, probably.

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Our biggest failure is, we don't have a lot of options to show I mean what what there is you.

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Can see you can see Uber, you can see the lift, maybe maybe bike sharing. You can see Coast, but.

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I, don't think it's getting a lot of action, so I think one of the problems is: how do you put.

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Put these sorts of strategies together in a way that will really move the needle on uh greenhouse.

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Gas emissions, so one major category is that the other major category is electric vehicles and.

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And alternative fuels- and my guess is probably in the uh Fe and Jess in the long database of.

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uh Examples for the transport component, which, according to the EPA nationally, is.

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The largest sector for greenhouse gas emissions at 27 percent- my guess, it's probably higher than that.

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For Portsmouth, that would be a good uh leading question and maybe folks already know the answer.

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To that considering co-benefits particularly linkages between transportation and land use.

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And housing particularly affordable housing, if there's a way to connect those new forms.

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Of Mobility public transit bike and pedestrian to new, affordable housing projects tying it into.

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Energy and the the much more open one quality of life and and livability. So maybe talking about a.

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Focus on emissions reduction, while recognizing the other side of the coin. Of course, the adaptation.

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Resilience, so this is a kind of a suggested Focus for an activity and uh next and last slide just.

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Ideas for next steps- and, of course all this is a proposal and I- think we're very much interested.

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In seeing what the, what the feedback is and level of interest to to make sure that whatever would.

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Come out of this is practical and feasible, and it fits within the timeline to be really useful.

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In terms of of what the city is developing with, with the with the cap on the progress on the on.

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The RFP, so these are all steps. The amount of time that could go into this is really depends.

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On the amount of time people have to put into it and again the timeline to be useful, the I think.

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One of the key questions is how to make sure this complements the other activities that are going on.

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um Certainly the public engagement- this could be input, input to that as well, so hoping hoping to.

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Get some some suggestions, possibly uh expression, of whether this this uh a possible project seems.

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Promising and interesting uh refined it with climate Solutions. This is the chance to get some.

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Feedback from from this committee um after that, then obvious next steps are Port key Portsmouth.

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City staff Peter and probably the Portsmouth planning director and any other staff that are.

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Interested just in doing some brainstorming around what would be useful and identifying participants.

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For another small informal work group people that would like to roll up their sleeves and.

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Start thinking about transportation and climate change and promising actions for emissions.

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Reduction once ideas start to take a bit of shape, getting some some input and maybe interest from.

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Key stakeholders looking at possible strategies that would be uh coast and saber the Rockingham.

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Planning Commission Seacoast Metropolitan planning organization really, as a start Maybe a few of the.

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Neighboring towns that have an interest. One of the main questions is: how do you frame transport? Is it.

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Just trips that are within the city limits- that's not so much as it trips coming in and out what.

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About the port, what about the airport? Those are all issues that have been wrestled with in the.

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um The pier caps that that folks have looked at so it would be very interesting to see how they.

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Define that it would be really whatever makes sense for Portsmouth, because you you want to.

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Have a plan that reduces emissions and how do you want to really cast the net on that very important.

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To be thinking about the transport Baseline emissions coming out of what you've talked about.

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uh Tori relevant platforms, data and metrics and best practice caps. So I guess the key is what's.

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What's a realistic level of effort to make this useful and complementary, so that's a a once over.

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A lightly and I think whatever comes out of this. If, if something does it needs to be held helpful.

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So appreciate any any thoughts and feedback, or anybody who is a is a.

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A transport wonkin is just dying to join me on this, be very welcome.

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And that's that I would love for you to come to some of the greenhouse gas inventory.

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A lot of these conversations we're having sure.

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Much much appreciated, of course, I know in the cap subcommittee and now in the greenhouse.

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Gas in Victoria, as we move forward to community, especially looking at the trade Port looking at.

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Our port and looking at the highway impact and where we bring those things in if they've been.

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Brought in and past inventories and continues very much a conversation that is happening.

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And um I think the numbers again, it's only going to help it's it's pure behavioral, I.

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Mean as much as you look at this and say: well, there aren't a lot of bike riders I'm, a bike.

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Rider uh and aren't a lot of public transit users. It almost looks like it's low hanging.

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Fruit really for moving the emissions needle, but then you get into really hardcore issues of.

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um Of behavior, behavior and I want to hear Coast talk, I've heard them speak recently.

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At the rocking Planning Commission and they have to cancel bus routes because they can't.

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Get drivers on the buses and a lot of the buses are empty when they drive them. It's it's tough.

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To get the ridership and it's tough to get the driver, so it is a challenge, but are there other.

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Ways I was just thinking. Are there other ways to get people from plan A to point B that don't.

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Involve a big bus and I, don't know what that is. Obviously ride share is one, but is it too.

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Small, we just visited Savannah and Charleston. Those are bigger cities, but they have wonderful.

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Loot, buses that just go from downtown to the major destinations, every every 30 minutes, I.

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Think they're, supported in part by uh local business and tourists, come and ride those.

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When we went there to both cities, we didn't have a car and we used those. uh It seems like.

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That's the sort of thing rather rather than the more traditional Coast um fixed route buses. It's.

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Really uh there are a lot of new new things that are happening, that I think post is probably pretty.

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Well informed about, but it's it's not not doing the same old thing, but thinking about new things.

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Yeah, looking at that transportation in the greenhouse gas inventory, it is a huge fact.

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Huge piece, and the way we looked at it before was right through the rocking and Planning.

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Commission model and vehicle miles travel but I've heard they've used apps like Waze.

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And and other apps to try to calculate those numbers and a little different approach. Well,.

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It seems like if the RFP is eighty thousand dollars anything that you can do ahead just.

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So like taking a spade to the ground and breaking it up, so you can hand off to the.

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Contractor some some early thinking that they can tee off on for public engagement.

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Or pick up on data collection to help some move ahead faster and maybe do less.

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Because there are some ideas on the table to start with, rather than less of a blank page.

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I just wanted to point out the work that Josh has done with the and Kate for the.

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Ev zoning and we have the um EV- show coming up the third annual. What's the date on that Josh, so.

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um I guess, let's jump into this now it makes sense the National Drive electrics uh campaign.

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Across the country uh in 2000 and terms here, 18 uh Portsmouth held our first electric vehicle.

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Show it was down in the lower uh parking lot of city hall because we had unveiled our EV Chargers.

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There uh Senator David Waters from Dover, came and spoke at it. It's a relatively small event. It was.

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Kind of piecemeal and put together the following year: I organized one for the Bridge Street lot.

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um More people showed up, it was still kind of piecemeal and then the reason why I picked that.

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Lot is I was still pushing to get a or I was successfully able to get a DC fast charger in.

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At least a capital proven plan for that parking lot. I want to highlight that the two years I.

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Was off the council, there was no electric vehicle show I wanted to bring it back, but.

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um This time, we'll actually have organizational support: um Josh singer from New Hampshire, clean.

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Oh gosh I have horrible with names of organizations Yeah clean energy, New, Hampshire.

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I spoke him earlier in the week, he's agreed to be what he organizes for it, so he'll actually be able.

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To reach out to all of the auto dealerships in the area also, as a network of volunteers, uh the.

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Previous two shows Jessica Wilcox from the New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services.

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Was there she had a table set up, which should be more robust and more organized this year? The.

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Time frame for National Drive electric week is the last weekend in September to the first weekend in.

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October and the date which I proposed, so the city council approved sending the event to the city.

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Manager with Authority Act, meaning she's, going to work with the group organizers to figure out.

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What works best I, pitched that last Sunday, which I believe is October, 1st, 2nd or 3rd, so you're.

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Looking at a calendar right now, second, second, so I propose that day again at the Bridge Street lot.

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um uh In the morning, jail time frame from ten to one, uh the logic for that is the other weekends.

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Are best the other weekends I know Exeter is having one I think that's Saturday around the.

A

Same time frame and from a city's perspective, I think their preference. If a parking lot were to.

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Be used, it would be during a non-peak time and the least amount of vehicles. There would be at least.

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My parking impact did would be on a Sunday Morning by Sunday mornings. It can't be too early because.

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People don't want to wake up super early to go to that show. So the um uh that's the proposal uh just.

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That's out there right now, I'll be coordinating with the same manager's office. If there's anyone.

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Who's interested when it becomes more solidified and volunteering, whether it's just showing up with.

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Your electric vehicle and showing off hey here's a Gold, Wing EV, that's what this started as or.

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um Helping out any other way, that would be greatly appreciated. So hopefully, this time.

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Next month, I'll have more information, um I guess it's not technically an annual if it.

A

Didn't happen for two years, but uh Fort Smith's, third, electric vehicle foreign curious. If, um if.

J

There's anybody in that Circle that might know people that have done like electric car retrofits.

J

Just so, there's like interesting kind of funky Vehicles there, not just like Teslas and a leaf.

J

And uh BMW one and whatever just to make you know, generate some more interest and, and that is cool.

A

As it sounds, I have a very good friend that took a 1973 Volkswagen Thing and made it all electric.

J

No he's in California still, um can you ask if he knows people in yeah.

A

He might have a network yeah there. It is. That would be a really good society and what.

A

I have left out is the reason why I wanted the Bridge Street lot now is, although the.

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um Decent fast charger for that lot was scrapped. What we were able to do, instead of me putting it.

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Back in was include 150 000 a year for six years to have a food plan. Four um electric vehicle.

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Charging so a combination of uh DC fast charges where they make sense, like maybe at the library or.

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um Just electric vehicle level, two Chargers and they laid the groundwork for that when they.

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um Redid the Bridge Street lot, so the wiring's already in that stuff, I guess best practice is.

A

Whenever you pave a lot and there's electric Source nearby do the wiring now so when.

A

um When the next fiscal year begins next summer, it should be pretty simple and a no-brainer for the.

A

City, like hey, let's put some of this money here for electrical charges first and go from there so.

J

That's part of the reason why I went to The Bridge Street live again. It's just to highlight hey this.

A

Is coming and uh and go from there that's a better idea: okay, really cool vehicles, complementary.

D

uh Do you include other electric vehicles, like scooters and bikes and stuff at this.

D

Part of the but I don't see why not because I know yeah I, know Port City mopeds he's.

D

Selling tons of Segway Scooters these days he's shifting a lot of his stuff to Electric scooters.

C

It's an electric bike, store and enforcement. That's right, I think I, think the trend in a.

K

Lot of cities is away from bike sharing. You see a lot fewer of those like in DC and a.

K

Lot more electric shared electric scooters, electric scooters, yeah and electric scooters.

E

That are like little bikes. Almost that are, you know many like mini bikes, foldable yeah,.

A

Just to put a plug in with Peter in the room, I am when the planning department pitched their budget.

A

I put the new plane director on the spot to see what her thoughts were for bringing back a ride.

A

Share program like zaxter, not necessarily zag sir, but I, would love to see, of course,.

K

Electric bicycles, something well: it left because of the what the company went out of business, yeah.

E

But I don't know that the I don't know where the council support was on it at the time either. But.

E

um It would be great people love that I hear yeah I would see them something like a one. Eight and.

A

Rye to the beach, like that's great, there's well and there's a there's, a model from Regional ones,.

E

As well, um Northampton and uh Amherst I believe I think I think the key and it's Bert's favorite.

K

Word multimodal, which is connectivity, so you come up with combinations that are attractive enough.

K

For people to do without one car, if they've got two to do without one or two, if they have one to.

K

Do without any because there are enough attractive Alternatives and it's the combination of all those.

K

And that's why the the new technology and the apps that will show you how to do those things. But then.

K

You need the options there and I think the the real weakness is to approach it in a piecemeal.

K

Piecemeal fashion and I think electric vehicle, determined vehicle could include scooters and.

A

Bicycles and everything else, electric scooters reach out to um those businesses and see if they.

A

Want to showcase them, so that's a great idea I still like his ideas. Yeah, that's super cooler, but.

A

um So I totally hijacked that portion of the conversation you got off the hook for.

K

An expression of Interest or disinterest in the Transportation uh dig in, whereas looking at it, but.

F

uh What I love about sustainability is that things are nested inside each other and go to scale.

F

So here, where here's, where everybody gets excited about, oh I'm, going to get my electric bike and.

F

What I think Bill's situation is a structure that helps get these activities on the ground.

F

And I think I heard Bill saying and I've used it since then bill I think 90 percent of getting.

F

That on the ground is all the conversation and structure that allows it to get there. So I was.

F

Thinking bill, it's so difficult to get the people communicating and I was thinking tonight. You.

F

Have you gotten some new information? uh Do you need anything more from us and uh where.

F

Where is that I I would say an expression of of Interest I mean this is really intended.

K

To be a low-key informal thing, that's really driven by the level of Interest. It isn't.

K

Depended on me coming back with a bunch of ideas, but hopefully getting three four five people who.

K

Would be interested just over whatever timeline is useful and that's why a follow-up conversation.

K

With with Peter, particularly in the planning director, just to get a a sense of where the.

K

Connection is that's useful for something like this and I. Think what's key? Is that we're we're.

K

Talking about a plan, the plan will have a Time duration, I, don't know what that is, or is that.

K

Flexible is it 10 years, 15 years? Well, the climate action plan yeah no one year, one year, really get.

E

The plan written well to get it written that would work within it will be yeah yeah many, but that's.

K

There's a difference between a planning activity and uh uh hit the ground activity, uh build a bike.

K

Lane or or get a new bike route a new uh bus route I mean those are all part of it, but it's it's the.

K

Scale that's important if it's really going to be moving moving the needle on emissions and if.

K

Portsmouth has a baseline greenhouse gas and wants to hit a Target in five years or ten years. That's.

K

A that's a planning activity and it's fine to be thinking about specific strategies and activities.

K

But that's that's a kind of a planning activity and that's the perspective is that the 90 that.

K

Yeah disappointing to get to the and get the right activities because it's so easy to start doing.

F

Something and get so involved with it, but it it's not really moving the needle.

F

That's why I think uh I'm interested in just looking at it at all levels and.

F

I, don't want to be climbing a ladder and find out I'm on the wrong building and I. Think that that's.

F

Why uh planning and committees and reflection, and what we're doing around the climate action.

F

Plan we're creating the path as we go along and I think that even to know that we're doing.

F

Resilience as well as gas, which ones are doing which and if we don't do this one and we have.

F

To have a sequence, the first 10 years, that was what I started to get this afternoon uh on. We.

F

Have the next 10 years and those have to be the low-hanging fruit that bias time if we don't get.

F

The little hanging fruit right that bias time it's not going to make too much difference if we go the.

F

10 20 30 years out so I don't have answers to this. But I I speak to myself with some sense of.

F

Urgency that we're looking to do things that will help us give this the best opportunity to.

F

Get those right actions and that's why we look at different and we're cream as we go on so.

F

I think you head up there, that you will be talking with Peter you'll talk with the director and that.

K

Makes sense, no, it does I'm happy to help her be on a committee. However, you want to work it, but I.

E

Think we should definitely talk and probably talk to Eric Evie too sure I think if we're looking for.

K

Three to five people: it could be people on climate Solutions. This committee or suggestions that you.

K

Have of folks who aren't on the Committees, who might be interested I've got some ideas and.

K

Just to start doing the uh the speed work on this topic to start generating some ideas.

K

That can then feed into wherever it's useful and that's that's something you can help to.

K

Find Peter so do you have like City met? You have measurements already to like evaluate the.

H

Were the value is like I think that would have to be a big part of it and it's uh you know it's. It's.

K

It's uh mode shift if you're, giving up a car trip and replacing it with a bus trip. I think there are.

K

Measurements of of I guess I was even thinking more basic. Is it residence or is it Taurus.

K

Oh, it's I think it's all, but I think that's why I had the bullet about framing it, because it's.

K

Very important to say, what's in and what's out, I mean probably what's out, is I-95 driving through.

K

Portsmouth at 70 miles an hour that's out, but is getting another trip into take C J to Boston or.

K

The airport working on that is that in how do you deal with the airport? How do you deal with.

K

The Air Force, how do you deal with the the port? I mean all those are important and you don't have to.

K

Include everything unless there's a real purpose for doing it, you you want to be able to make.

K

Make reductions so there's no point, including something you can't have.

K

An effect on and boosting up your your inventory just for the sake of it so.

I

Quick quick question, I mean one approach is, is a voluntary approach. You know hopefully.

I

A family might get rid of one of their cars or they might use the bus instead of driving.

I

um Another approach is I, don't know if Portsmouth has the ability to to put in restrictions like.

I

For example, all day long I see Amazon gray Vans running around my neighborhood and they don't.

I

I remember years ago, UPS would come through a neighborhood. Once a day now, Amazon spends.

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The entire I live on the North off the north Mill Pond. They have a van in or many vans in. My.

I

Neighborhood all day long I mean it's like not an hour that goes by that I, don't see an Amazon band.

I

Go by, does you know I'm, not this is rhetorical, but does Portsmouth have the ability to put in uh you.

I

Know some sort of restrictions that say you know: delivery services within Portsmouth, City, Limits.

I

You know must use electric vehicles and really, you know, take a strong approach to something like that.

I

um You know the hoping that people do the right thing. Of course, those are a limiting trips to.

K

The store yeah- well, maybe maybe not it's, because a lot of those products that Amazon delivers. You.

I

Can't get at stores too right, so it sounds like yeah I wanted to expand on this conversation. Just.

B

A little bit because I think it's great to talk about. You know ways that we could reduce trips.

B

um But I think we also need to start from kind of like the very basic idea of.

B

Expanding sidewalks so that more pedestrians can be walking in the city. You know it could.

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Be as simple as an action like making sure we have sidewalks in all of our neighborhoods.

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Making sure we have expanded sidewalks making sure we execute our complete streets program.

B

um So we already have things in place that can be kind of the beginning or lower level. I guess.

B

Of phasing in um additional Transportation options in the city and I see this really as a phase-in of.

B

You know trying to increase options that don't include, um but also trying to do things like.

B

Limiting the number of trips say that somebody takes in the community like in the Liberian, so.

B

um So I think that this is just um we have to think really small too.

K

Small and then ability to to scale it and the emissions reduction comes from the eliminated.

K

Trip but a safe, walk to a bus that isn't yet currently running would be something.

K

That then eliminates a a trip and reduces the traffic. So then you get into some of the core.

K

Benefits of of this of the strategy, it's reducing the emissions as well.

E

And to get to your question about the sorry uh Rick go ahead, go ahead, I was.

E

Just going to try and I don't know if I can answer it, I think I would just say that the.

E

I, don't know that there's the ability to limit the amount of you know, Amazon delivery van runs.

D

In your city, unless there's some sort of State legislation that would allow for it I, don't know.

E

How we could do that, but it's it's you know something to think about. You've got to start.

I

Someplace but a lot of cities have um ordinances uh for truck deliveries at night yeah, not during.

K

The day but then again, I think New Hampshire has some special considerations with state state.

K

Controls um I think with the uh Amazon they're they're, motivated by their own economy as well, and.

K

If they could save some money by combining trips they'll do that as well. But it's certainly worth.

K

Exploring and it's constant I mean especially with the pandemic well and I- think to get to councilor.

E

Cook's point: maybe we encourage people to not use Amazon as much and go to their local shops or I.

E

Think in Vermont they're starting a Amazon for the state, so they sell manufactured goods in Vermont.

E

And they deliver them so they're trying to build that local economy so that maybe that's an action.

E

In the climate action plan to try to encourage that, but I think that gets at what you're saying.

E

If we can get people to try to buy things locally, yeah well in uh say one more thing too: a living.

I

Here in Portsmouth, we have a lot of restaurants. We have a lot of bars, an enormous trucks that come.

I

Through here constantly to to you know restock, um you know, those are big diesel trucks and you know.

I

Is there some way that we can encourage some of these companies to move towards electric vehicles.

I

I hear diesel I think of the peas cargo, which luckily didn't happen, but some form of it I.

I

Think will keep our eye on the peas area I've seen the new proposal I heard about it, I've been.

I

Cautiously kind of anxiously, avoiding it that's one thing that comes to mind: I'm thinking of.

I

Before I had my license, I was the only kid on the Portsmouth High School Bus to Greenland.

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Every one kid that's, a big stinking carcinogenic diesel, bus yeah.

I

I am kind of a fringe case because I live 10, 11 miles away from the high school. But for.

I

Somebody who lives on weibird Street give them an electric scooter. I'm thinking I mean we have. We.

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Have this data where we will have to stay in it from the greenhouse gas inventory correct.

I

So this this comes to mind as, like you know, municipality can can start getting creative.

I

Like an electric scooter, what kid wouldn't want an electric scooter to get to and from school.

I

On on the sidewalk that you know, maybe we're already considering you know beefing up or or.

I

Adding to a neighborhood that doesn't have one or a safe, uh separate bike path: oops wait a minute.

H

Laughs as far as Municipal, um like legislation, maybe um I've been to cities, uh particularly in.

J

Florida, where they're like a tourist area and one of the things that's all over the place, is.

J

Electric golf carts, the tourists you know rent for a week and they use that to drive around and go to.

J

Restaurants and build the beach and whatever- and you never see those here so I- don't know if that's.

J

Something that has to specifically be legislated that you know these vehicles are allowed on city.

J

Streets not highways whatever, because um we are also a terrorist economy. Here, tons of people come.

J

Here stay in hotels and in addition, we have a lot of seasonal residents that are only here part of.

F

The year, that's our that's our whole condo economy is or a lot of it is people that are buying a.

J

Condo they're here for six months and they go somewhere else for the rest of the year and.

J

That seems like it could be a great low-carbon solution for just small in-town trips, easy.

J

Electric vehicles, but but I, don't know if it needs to be legislated somehow to make them legal or why.

I

Wouldn't we see at least some people doing it now in that or something I want a protective steel.

I

Cage around mine, the other thing is the the sort of uh circulator shuttle bus could be. It could be.

K

An electric vehicle- it could also be something that is marketed by the hotels and contributed.

K

To by the hotel, so people could come like when I visited, Savannah I had no car and got along.

K

Just fine by by walking and using the Circulator bus I mean there's a a great opportunity to have.

K

uh Developers private sector contribute to that as part of not having to build all the parking.

K

um It's a bit more Equitable I mean all these specialized things that you're talking about.

H

It's really it's it's not. It doesn't include a sector of society. I think you can get it to.

K

Serve all sectors by contributing by getting the contributions from the private sector and.

K

The Circulator bus could then circulate to the affordable, affordable, affordable housing.

A

Like to do is uh move on to the next topic: uh Portsmouth green buildings.

A

Who added that to the agenda all right time to put Peter out of it? Yeah I, just emailed.

D

You to the presentation, I, don't know if you did you just now, or was it just now.

H

You don't have it, no, you don't have it on a thumb drive or could you put it on one.

E

Yeah three for USB, regular alternated, one I, don't think it's a regular old. It's not easy.

G

I got a new computer and it's the bane of my existence.

E

Oh, it doesn't fit a regular thumb, drive. No, it's um yeah, it's incredibly annoying I can do it.

E

Well, let's skip to another one, so while you're gonna email up I'm also going to.

A

um About the community power update from the June 29th event, I'm pretty sure that.

A

Was a 3s Art, Space event yeah and who could actually speak fluently about Community power.

A

Because that was a very detailed and well attended event. Is anyone you're not familiar with Community.

A

Power but the general concept is I attended. It was a great event. It was a lot. There was.

K

A lot going by, though I was going to say that, just last week we got the email from poor Smart.

C

Bro saying that the Milwaukee event is now on their website all right, so that will help those.

C

Of us who didn't get it all the first time, a second chance to get some of the information.

I

I walked away with a question and I'd like to to ask this the the committee here. So, if I.

I

Understand uh Community power, um the cities that are signing on as a as a launch community power.

I

Have the ability to generate their own power so, for example, Portsmouth could put in a solar farm.

I

Right is that that's not it's not concept, so the concept essentially is for people to be able to.

A

Or rate payers in the city, they'll be with their bill, there'll be an option to stay with their.

A

Current source of electricity- or uh they do nothing, then their source of electricity would.

A

Be from a renewable source, it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be totally get it yeah totally.

I

Get it totally understand the whole of that that whole model, but the question is: why would.

I

Portsmouth not start generating its own power like building a solar farm or putting up some wind.

I

Turbines, in addition to which I they can yeah, they can, and if that's something like we should let.

E

Kate yeah, please yeah, so I sit on that committee um and I have to say so I hear what I understand.

B

um uh Not only could we um install solar, arrays and start that process of doing local Generation.

B

Um We've talked about that as actually being one of our goals in joining Community power, because.

B

um What we're doing right now is um the committee is fleshing out the goals that we have as a.

B

Community in joining the Coalition, um so that is one of the goals that the committee is is.

B

Has endorsed um so far so I don't know what the the end result will be of our draft of our goals.

B

But that's something that we're serious about and but that's just one piece of the puzzle because.

B

Ultimately, with Community power, our goal would be to buy sustainable energy so um and and when we.

B

um Finally, join the Coalition, um assuming everything goes through.

B

It would be the default provider for our residents, so I think that that's really the critical piece.

B

Of this is 85 percent of people. uh Don't choose a power supplier in the state, so we're looking at 85.

B

Percent of people using the default, which would be Community power in this case and.

B

um We have chosen to make sure we have a sustainable option.

B

So uh the goal would be to be more sustainable than what is offered now through our default.

B

Supplier, which is eversource and currently I, think their sustainability rate is somewhere around.

B

25 26 of the power they generate is sustainable. That's through the EUC definition, so we would aim.

B

To be higher than that and to if not a lot more sustainable for these in more and more sustainable.

B

Energy over time until we get to 100 sustainable power, and so it's a essentially is a way to shift.

B

To Greener practices but at the same time be able to limit cost. Because of the way in which we would.

B

Buy Power, which is different differently than the way that our default supplier currently eversource,.

B

Does so so all right, yeah! Thank you if Portsmouth was not considering generating power, I would be.

I

Concerned I have a fun segue for the next subject, one of my um favorite headlines of something I.

A

Proposed I made the cover of the herald. Someone like Denton proposes wind turbines on City Hall.

A

Just as an example, because I want to push for a large scale, Google energy source, it's very.

F

Windy you do a small wind turbine, but the herald definitely ran with that. So on that subject, let's.

A

Talk about sustainable buildings yeah um so on the other side of the civil engineering coin, which I.

G

Very much enjoyed that the most I'm, a structural engineer by practice, but education and civil, so I.

G

Had I had a choice to go to the Transportation Route, the curves of roads are very complex.

G

um So yeah this uh Tori bricks. For those who don't know me, um I work as a structural engineer and.

G

A sustainability consultant at an a e firm, so I spend most of my day talking about this and.

G

Doing this, um this kind of came about from some of my work with uh the cap RV committee and the.

G

Greenhouse gas inventory and questions I kept getting from people um because of what I do and.

G

I thought that it would be really relevant, um especially with some of the information. That's.

G

Coming out of those uh so yeah, this is mostly um it's very similar to what um kind of bill.

G

Was doing which is it's part, informational? It's part, brainstorming and it's part, seeing.

G

um How we can get things kind of more if there's anyone interested in being involved and maybe.

G

Like a little bit of a focus group on this side of the coin, I'm gonna go the next one, so this should.

G

Look familiar: um this is this good movies uh webpage and at the very bottom it says, buildings.

G

um I'm gonna not be offended by the fact that it's the last bullet point. uh But this.

G

Is something that's you know it's part of every conversation you have about sustainability. It's.

G

Part of every cap- it's part of every greenhouse gas inventory buildings are very, very relevant in.

G

The conversation about sustainability also we're almost always sitting in one when we talk about.

G

This uh you can go the next one fun fact um so. I always like to start with definitions, um because.

G

People often don't know what a Green Building means and it's not their fault, because it is.

G

Used Loosely, um so World Green, Building Council has a definition. I think they.

G

Have the right to make definitions given what they are um and their definition is pretty.

G

I would say optimistic, eliminates negative impacts and can create positive impacts.

G

um That is ideal that uh we would be doing better than nothing with buildings. uh I think.

G

I think it will take us a while to get quite to that definition. uh The I really like looking.

G

At the kind of features list you know what are what are these things that we're talking about.

G

What's actually being implemented and the reason efficient use or efficiency is bolded.

G

And underlined is because almost everything can kind of come back to that. It is an efficient use.

G

Of resources for the purpose we need, which is buildings to live and work and play in.

G

um You know and that's the Renewables and waste reduction and air quality and materials and all.

G

Of these different things, but it really just comes back to efficiency and then at the very.

G

Bottom of the site, that's kind of how I refer to when I, when I talk about Green Building when.

G

I talk about Sustainable Building, that's how I Define it it's pretty Broad and it's.

G

Buildings that Implement strategies to meaningfully reduce environmental impact.

G

um I, don't quite say all positive impacts because inherently by putting large structures.

G

On the earth I, it's not usually positive, um so I think right now where we are especially in our.

G

Society is we need to reduce the environmental impact of just that act to start it is, you know.

G

It needs to happen, we need somewhere to live, but we can make it a little bit less impactful.

G

On the next slide, so um one of the other things that always comes up with buildings is what's.

G

With all the rating systems, and what is it mean and which ones are green and which ones aren't.

G

Green and which ones should I do for my building um so which is completely valid because there.

G

Are a heck of a lot? This is just a list of some reading systems in the US on that middle picture,.

G

um I, like this graphic, because it kind of shows that these are all valid options, these all fit.

G

Into that definition, I have at the bottom of the slide. They're all their whole purpose is.

G

To implement strategies meaningful reductions, it's just which strategies and what meaningful.

G

Redactions mean are slightly different in each one. um They each have strengths depending on what.

G

You're looking at with residential and Commercial and municipality, so they all fit into this picture.

G

um And at the very bottom I think, it's also important to note that, like code, um our building.

G

Codes are a big part of this. Every time we adopt a new code, there is a energy and sustainability.

G

Component of that, so even without these rating systems, this is not a foreign thing. This is.

G

Something that is happening within our building codes um and the picture on the left I like to.

G

Show because uh there is a lot of green washing that happens in all sustainability efforts, but.

G

Especially in buildings uh and the rating systems are a really great way to cut through some of that.

G

um Because having a lot of plants on your building does not mean to just necessarily sustainable.

G

But maybe that's a I, don't know if that building ever got built. That is a rendering, but uh you.

G

See a lot of things like that um and it it can be harmful because I think.

G

It when people then look at numbers and stuff, they don't understand. They say that.

G

Was a really big, expensive building and it didn't cut emissions that much I'm like.

G

Well, yeah because it's all concrete and they just put some trees on it. Of course, it didn't.

G

um So that's where the rating systems are really helpful because it's an easy way for you know.

G

Builders and clients and people to understand what things mean and on the picture on the very.

G

Right is what I like to show. As you know, that's just one of the rating systems. That's energy star.

G

And the big takeaway of all of them is that you're increasing efficiency and you're lowering energy.

G

Use and environmental impact um every rating system is just a different game on at what scale.

G

um At what cost and how much? But that is the end goal on all of these. And even if.

G

You want to do a rating system, but you were still attempting to do a green Sustainable.

G

Building, that is still what you're trying to achieve. um So you know you can get into.

G

The into the grit with the rating systems, but the concept is that it's trying to do better.

G

um Another thing with green buildings that is often brought up uh is that it's not just a.

G

New buildings thing a building, does not have to be brand new and uh covered in all the nicest.

G

Facade materials to be a Green Building, uh most of the buildings that we have today, we are going.

G

To have in 50 60 years, buildings are not quick to change over. It's not like buying a new bike.

G

um And so we need to look at it both ways. We need to look at it. You know for any new construction.

G

That's going to happen, but we also need to look at it in the buildings that we currently have today.

G

Because they are a huge part of our greenhouse gas emissions and we can lower that uh picture.

G

In the middle is an example of you know, many houses that we have here in this city and I would.

G

Say that you know all of those things that are happening and those upgrades that are being made.

G

To that house uh are falling into that definition of what I would call a sustainable, Green Building.

G

Implementing strategies, reducing environmental impact, that is in Green Building, even if it's.

G

Wasn't when it maybe was built, it can be now um and then on the very right. That's actually from.

G

The energy star website, a lot of these rating systems have these components for existing.

G

Buildings, it's not like these rating systems are only for new buildings. Many many of them. You can.

G

Get buildings rated: you can make these upgrades. You can get your fancy plaques, even if the.

G

Building's not brand new because they recognize that uh most a lot of projects, especially in.

G

Areas like ours are remodels Renovations major improvements. We don't have a ton of space to be.

G

Built in brand new building, so that is what we do a lot of times. uh You can move the next one.

G

um Triple bottom line, it is what we talk about all the time in sustainability. It.

G

Is very relevant to Green Building um I. Don't think I need to go over.

G

This with anybody in this room I think they have a pretty good idea.

G

uh So plan it so this top graphic, which is very hard to see right now, but that.

G

um That is coming from our 2018 greenhouse gas emissions in Portsmouth report, uh so we will.

G

Have updated numbers soon, hopefully, the blue and the yellow on that um the blue is electric.

G

Energy used in buildings and the emissions that are associated with that. This is all building.

G

So this is community municipality, commercial and the yellow is fossil fuel energy used in buildings.

G

um The gray is transportation and the Teeny sliver of blue is Water waste, water and waste. um I. Think.

G

That this graphic is says a lot about where our leaky places are, and they are in our buildings.

G

um And you know six so yeah 64 of the ports with greenhouse gas emissions in the 2018 report uh was.

G

Related to building energy use, so heating, cooling and all the things we use energy for in buildings.

G

uh So this is going to be a huge component of the cap that we have down the road. This is going to be.

G

A obviously huge component of every inventory we have um It's relatively easy to track uh because.

G

We all pay utility bills, so it is a very cut and dry. How much are you using type of thing.

G

And I think one thing that I really like to talk about with Green Building is that the supply side.

G

Of things with renewable energy is trendy um and it's awesome and it's important because that's the.

G

Energy we're using, but looking at how we reduce the actual demand, is a in in I mean my biased.

G

Opinion just as if not more important, because we don't have to make as much if we use less.

G

And that is a great way to go about sustainability in general, um so and I love that diagram of kind.

G

Of the triangle- and this you know, buildings and envelopes- are the base of that pyramid. We.

G

You know if we're talking about sustainability overall, it's usually in this reduction of impact.

G

And that starts at the source. That's a great slide. Thank you. I I'm happy to share all of this too.

G

um I'll, send it to everyone very nice, one um profit. So this is a very important slide in.

G

Keeping me employed, um so uh we are now at a place where green buildings have been around.

G

Long enough and are a prevalent enough part of the industry that we have a lot of numbers to.

G

Tell us the things that 10 15 years ago were a this, should work, and now it is a this does work.

G

um The return on investment for buildings, the long-term cost savings for Utilities.

G

In a building's lifespan, if you build with sustainable practices, almost always come out.

G

In the wash and usually time frames you're looking like five ten years and when you're looking at a.

G

Building that's going to be 60 Hundred Year building, that is, you know, serious uh savings.

G

uh That graph on the bottom left I really like uh this is kind of a graph. That's looking at the.

G

Lowest hanging fruit in Industries on greenhouse gas emissions and that first one is buildings.

G

um We know how to make more efficient buildings, we have the ability and Technology to do it.

G

um It's a rather cut and dry process, it's just not as fun and attractive and I. Think.

G

That that's the hardest part of it, but there's so much low hanging fruit on every every single.

G

Person's house every office every store every building you're in there is something that can.

G

Be done, that's not that hard that can make a significant difference. Okay, quick question: do.

I

You think the the national building codes are, they are they doing enough to help I mean? Because this.

I

Is what you're showing here is so compelling and I'm thinking? If people don't get this and.

I

I, don't know how you could not get this if you were building or owning buildings. um You know.

I

Through the codes, we're kind of helping people not shoot themselves in the foot right and doing.

I

The doing the right thing for themselves and for the environment all at the same time it's getting.

G

There, um one of the biggest things is that codes when it comes to buildings are painfully slow, like.

G

Worse than watching concrete drive, slow and I can say that because I watch concrete dry.

G

So, to give you perspective, the IVC is um kind of the international building code. Is the big.

G

The big guy tells you where to go for all the other little codes um in New, Hampshire, July, 1st.

G

We accepted the adoption of the 2018., yes, and that was with pushing from industry I'm the structural.

G

Engineers board in New Hampshire, and we were like, can we please do this? This is ridiculous.

G

So we were on the 2015. technically weird smell in 2015 for another six months a while there is a.

G

There so that means that we currently are two code iterations behind. um So yes, changes are being made.

G

In the building code, it just takes a really long time for those changes, so it's being driven by.

G

Voluntary yeah, because of Roi and profit, um is really what it comes down to uh and.

G

The building codes also can be a little difficult because they need to I mean International building.

G

Code needs to apply to the entire world and then even within our you know, the US, especially with.

G

How many climate zones we have they? They do recommendations and the building codes.

G

Are by climate zone, but even that can be very different. You know a climate zone where we are.

G

In a climate, we can be in the same climate zone as somewhere over on the Pacific Northwest, but.

G

That doesn't mean that our buildings look the same and have the same needs um and impacts. So.

G

It's a really great step. Okay, it's just not really fast. All right, I know when it comes down.

B

Thank you thank you, and additionally, I'll I'll also work in this sector. Is that even you know.

J

If we adopted the current most brand is newest uh IBC. That is still way behind, like some of the.

J

um Like passive house and uh stuff that she was showing on the slide for like The Cutting,.

J

Edge technology yeah, it probably passive house building it's going to save 75 energy over what.

J

The current building code is I. Think right now, if you did 20 20- and this is you know- very dependent.

G

On each one, but I, don't think uh 2021 IBC energy code would get you even close to lead certified.

G

2021, if you did the most recent energy code, I, don't think that building would.

G

Get you anywhere near 375 just leave regular, not even yeah, and that isn't even a super.

J

High standard, no just Baseline just get a plaque of any kind. It's not getting.

B

Can I ask a quick question: um I I can't see the slides, unfortunately, um so please send them to.

B

Me um but also I was hoping. Maybe we could set up a time to sit down because I'm because of a.

B

Push okay sure, Effie Mali who's sitting there and Allison Tanner um I've already been kind of.

B

Working on this, a little bit with the city manager and I'm supposed to meet with our.

B

Chief building inspector to talk about where the low-hanging fruit is, at least so we can start in.

B

The existing building code and see what we can do for now yeah, but it would be great if I had.

B

Your expertise essentially yeah and now and that kind of comes to what I'm getting to at the end. So.

G

It sounds like that is a perfect plug. It was perfect. Is that planned? You know it. I should.

G

Ask you all of my presentations I'm, sorry Kate. Maybe we can point this point at the screen, but.

C

No, we can't because Conservation Commission is on the Portsmouth climate Solutions with me, and.

C

We were talking sure about zoning and how that's something we could get going with the city. So we.

C

Met with Peter Kate and Beverly Zant, the planning director, oh great another person and talked about.

C

And heard about what was happening: oh Beth, Marone was there yeah, Kate, Cook and Kate home at both.

C

um So we had a lot of follow-up, but the law, the low-hanging fruit, Kate I'm glad you brought that.

C

Up because I was going to say the same thing to Tori that it would be great for us to meet.

C

Yeah I would love to do that um and then.

G

So I think I mean other than so on the very bottom right. That's an example of.

G

Like a private developer and just the benefits that they're going to get from Building green.

G

um There's so many studies right now and there's a reason that a lot of the commercial private.

G

Sectors going this way, and it's not all out of the goodness of their hearts, I'm just going to.

G

Leave it at that you can go to the next slide. I hope I can I can. Oh, maybe not with this group.

E

This is like Frozen on us. Let me see. Oh that's weird. It's really weird I.

E

Don't know what it's doing but I'd like to say it's not my fault but.

H

There we go there, we go um I. Think a huge strength of Green Building is that everyone.

G

Lives in houses- and it applies to everyone um and that especially right now, a lot of the challenges.

G

We're facing like and fears that we have in our lives are hugely relevant to energy and.

G

The buildings that we live in uh 27 percent of U.S households report that they're having challenges.

G

Paying energy bills we've been watching the volatility in different utility prices.

G

um You know, especially in our climate, our house is not being able to be properly.

G

Heated or cooled is a serious issue. It's a health risk. It is a community safety concern.

G

um And this is day to day, but also in any type of environmental emergency um having houses that.

G

Are efficient and can stay at temperature uh drastically decreases municipality and.

G

Emergency response needs- uh and you know it's important to note this disproportionately.

G

Affects people with lower income minorities and any community at risk. This is I mean it's.

G

Huge and the proportion of your income that you're spending on energy consumption is not.

G

Proportionate to that income, it just cuts into everything else that graph at the top is showing.

G

um The the second year there is I think is it 2021 or 2022, but uh essentially it's showing.

G

That more people are spending more of their income um on energy bills, and you know that's.

G

That's the relevant side for everybody. Everyone feels that everyone sees that and um there's also.

G

A lot of the stuff that you know isn't numbers: it isn't a bill that comes in the mail, but there's a.

G

Huge conversation about better buildings and the health of our buildings and the health.

G

Of ourselves in these buildings, we spend like 90 percent of our time indoors and being in a lot of.

G

Buildings, we're not breathing in maybe the best air and occupant health and indoor air quality.

G

Are huge concerns uh and those are huge attributes of this effort and green and Sustainable Building.

G

um And though they're a little bit harder to quantify, it does not mean that they're not.

G

Very relevant- uh and also this comes to you know that, like commercial profit, side, too, is.

G

People want to be in buildings that they, like you, want to spend time in spaces that make you feel.

G

Good and that you have natural light and that you're thermally comfortable and not you know.

G

Fighting with your co-worker about how that the temperature of the AC is, and all of these things.

G

um And that is a big part of Green Building. Is this experience that we're all having foreign.

G

So this is my call to action, uh is some type of either subcommittee task Group? Whatever your work.

G

Working group, whatever we might call it um these, you know my biggest thing is: it needs to have.

G

Stakeholders from all different sides- uh buildings- you know, residents and the city officials- are a.

G

Huge part of that, um but business owners and down to builders, the people who are you know.

G

To make it happen in the end, uh it really needs to be kind of all of these people and I think that.

G

You know focusing on that low-hanging fruit, um incentive based High return on investment actions.

G

um On all fronts is the best way to go and there's plenty of it to go around.

G

um And then working with a lot of I mean so many of these other subcommittees or committees are.

G

Really relevant to this, obviously, the energy and greenhouse gas inventory and transportation and.

G

The co-benefits we're talking about they're all super relevant to Green buildings. I know that.

G

Peter had also brought up. You know, municipalities, a great way to start, even though it's a very small.

G

Percentage of our greenhouse gas emissions of the buildings, it's a great way to show case kind of.

G

What these can be, we've already done that in a lot of our buildings. um You know the library is.

G

A great success story with that the solar panels on the high school and on the water treatment like.

G

These are all great examples of that, but making it so that we have kind of a standard for what that.

G

Looks like for municipality municipalities, um I think would be a great way to start and then to.

G

You know get a feel public survey of you know we all we all have an idea of where uh kind of these.

G

Fears and needs are but really asking people you know like what, in what form is this help.

G

um The best, in the sense of whether that's you know, retrofits or any what what is going to be the.

G

Most receivable um there are a lot of buildings, so figuring out the most effective way to get it. The.

G

Most of them is the biggest and you need to go to the owners or the inhabitants to make that happen.

G

So it's a very public based approach um and then yeah I mean task. Three is really my dream, which is.

G

To figure out some actual programs that uh can be adopted into the city to help residents and.

G

And, simultaneously help our journey on reducing our environmental impact, um which, in green.

G

Buildings is go incredibly hand in hand, which is great, because everyone likes slower utility bills.

G

um So yeah and then the next slide is just a beginning of any brainstorms to come. Some of.

G

This is stuff, that's already been, you know happening in other communities. Some of this.

G

Is I don't think any of things on on here is particularly new, but these are all things that.

G

Are happening could happen in Portsmouth could have a positive impact and I'd also like to say.

G

That these are all uh pretty incentive based and I think that that's really important with this.

G

um Eventually, yes, we will get to like code restrictions and being able to you know, talk.

G

So carbon tax on all these things down the road but I, think we have so much room to grow and just.

G

Pure incentives and benefits to start um that I think it's a great way to do it so yeah I. If.

G

um Anyone is interested, it sounds like with Kate and Effie and the things that are already moving.

G

We're more than halfway there! So it's interesting because um in the meeting we heard about what.

C

The city council had been working on with the planning department led by Beth marone's work.

C

um Developing Adu standards and adus fits with a lot of what we're talking about so.

C

um How do we get those uh quicker and less expensively? How do we expedite adus, but then.

C

The next phase phase three, the city, is going to be hiring retained, her and he's looking at.

C

Incentives so we've talked about things like reading groups and renewable energy. It would.

C

Be great to work with you, yeah, yeah and I think. What is important is that weatherization part.

G

um We are a city of many old buildings that leak horribly of energy, I mean we've all.

G

Felt it- and there are many ways to help people help themselves with that that.

G

um Have almost all positives and the return on investment is so low, um I mean I am a homeowner.

G

And even I, constantly I'm like I'll, do a project I'm like. Why did I not do that? Six months ago.

G

Because I immediately see the impacts, you know, and sometimes it just takes the information and the.

G

Knowing and the stuff you're talking about, oh my neighbor did that and like worked great for them.

C

um The other thing that came up when we met was, we talked a lot about trees and tree ordinances.

C

And looking at those related I mean it's not specifically building, but about building buildings.

C

What happens to trees and we see it all over Portsmouth, yes, yeah and all this. If you look.

G

Into any of those rating systems, too, the rating systems are a great way to go because they are.

G

Such a concrete thing- and it is something to hang your hat on and say you know, put a plaque.

G

On the door and you've met all these standards and I do think that that's a good thing, but.

G

um I really like to look at the broad picture of what they're asking for, and it's not singular.

G

You are looking at energy you're looking at sites, you know like. Is this the already to.

G

Develop site that you're repurposing essentially versus, is this a beautiful fields of wildflowers.

G

That we're gonna put a giant building on like that. Those have different. It's constant decision making.

G

um So yeah I think creating a framework that works for us specifically in Portsmouth would be huge.

G

Because it's it's daunting and it's very broad, um but what we were talking about when we met.

C

Was there are other cities that have put together model codes and there are model codes available.

C

For us to look at a ton, so yeah yeah and in our climate stuff I mean not very far, there's a lot.

H

Thank you. The we only have about less than 15 minutes left.

A

Anyone else wants to comment or ask questions, or if we should.

A

Move on to the organic land care update regarding the Conservation Commission.

E

um Yeah Jess: do you want to give that or do you want me to nope I can get that um so that.

D

Some members of the Conservation Commission have started a subcommittee sort of along the lines of.

D

What bill and Tori are talking about in creating Community Action and awareness and education.

D

Around organic land, Care Management efforts and the organization that the we are basing a lot of.

D

Our efforts in education is nofa, the Northeast organic Farmers Association and their standards.

D

um And so at this point the committee has sort of dovetailed off into two smaller groups and.

D

They are kind of getting themselves together and organizing one is going to be focused on community.

D

Outreach and education specifically to Residents how they can care for their lawns themselves or.

D

What to look for in landscapers when they hire somebody to know if they're actually practicing.

D

These things, or if it's just green, washing and then also reaching out to businesses and trying.

D

To get them to consider more organic natural ways to take care of their land and the other uh sort.

D

Of sub-sub committee is one that is going to be looking at city ordinances and seeing if we can.

D

Actually do something to maybe make it um on the Conservation Commission we've been requesting that.

D

People consider this when they come before us for a conditional use permit as part of their.

D

Efforts moving forward, but we want to see if that we can just create it as a city practice. Instead.

D

Of just would you consider doing this kind of thing, and so that's where we are at right now.

D

Did I miss a beat, no I think that's just out right out.

C

This organic lawn care include like using gas powered tools for the lawn likes and that's a.

D

Good question I have uh I think my understanding and I had it's been a little while, since I looked.

D

Through up the updates- and maybe Peter can speak to it better- it's more about you know the things.

D

That you're, actually using on your lawn lawn those type of products and that kind of stuff. um But.

D

That would be definitely an interesting thing to consider as a piece of the puzzle for sure.

H

All right guys, I love it as far as other business goes. I don't have any other issues.

A

Or should we move on to the uh parting words so I had one really quick thing.

C

I met with Concord Massachusetts I was very impressed with work done by mothers out front.

C

Which is a National Organization mobilizing to protect children in terms of climate change, but.

C

Also, racial and social justice issues like one of their big issues, is electric school buses.

C

But when I was in Concord Mass, they said. Oh, the woman that runs our Outreach comes from Portsmouth.

C

But they couldn't remember her name. So now, it's months later and I figured out, it was.

C

A woman I already know, and you may know her too Janet wrote and I met with her um there's.

C

A a branch of mothers out front in the western part of the state, but there's none here and I.

C

Just wanted to mention it in case people know mothers they're, mostly young mothers that are.

C

Interested in doing something about climate change, if anyone wanted to start one of these.

C

It would be great because Janet's right over on weibert street and she's Dynamic and they have.

C

Tool kits and training and developing leadership, and it's really about what we're talking about.

C

Community engagement so we'll be looking at them again. I just wanted people to know about that.

A

So for those who do not know, we usually end the meeting with what everyone's taking away.

A

I'll start and I think I've said this. Every meeting since I've been back on the committee.

A

A night and day difference from the four years that was previously the council's um rep on the.

A

Committee, where a lot of these ideas were just discussed here, it didn't feel like they were.

A

Being discussed anywhere else in the city and to some of these specific things from Green buildings.

A

Like their initiatives, that I was pushing Peter I, don't know if you remember, when I pushed the.

A

um Try to incentivize leave buildings like these Concepts that were just above some people's head.

A

Sitting here now, it's just completely not that was above your head, your game. It was, you totally knew.

H

What I was like the point being like it's just a complete sea change from where things were.

A

Just two years ago to today, so thank you, everyone for either staying involved or getting involved.

J

uh Busy night tonight I have lots of takeaways uh one I'm really glad to.

J

Hear the progress on the cap that we're getting so close to getting an RFP up.

J

um Getting excited about the electrical vehicle show I think that's a cool idea, yeah exactly.

J

But probably most excited is uh I really want to join your committee, because this is a great.

J

Focus of mine so uh we're glad you brought that up great presentation and uh happy to be part of it.

I

The great thing about this committee is that I well I missed last month and in the two months.

I

That I haven't been here. A lot has happened, but I I have a really paying attention to I. Think.

I

Every time I come to one of these meetings, I'm struck by how quickly things seem to.

I

Seem to image of red tape, and oh and that'll be three years: that'll be 10 years and things.

D

Are happening every time you know every time we meet and every time we talk and I hear if this.

I

Subcommittee has been meeting three times and this one's been meeting two times and I've just always.

I

Struck by by you know, even if I just sit here and take up space, I feel like I'm learning. So much and.

I

It's a it's a good Dynamic group to be a part of so I'm always excited hearing.

I

You're hearing, what's going on and hearing you know the EV retrofit show. That's that's.

I

Coming up and all the developments in the city and all the dynamic things that.

I

The sea change is taking place.

C

Almost excited about Tori's presentation and working with Aubry I mean Kate knows: I was.

C

Struggling a bit with this, it's outside of my Canon I I, looked at the land, use regulations and.

C

It's 33 Pages, or something and I I'm pouring over it and looking at Cambridge and other cities and.

C

Try to put it together for Portsmouth, and it's really hard to figure out what the low hanging.

C

Fruit is, and but people with this expertise, I really look forward to working with you baby.

G

um It was a lot I. Think uh I really think it's cool to see how naturally I feel like we're.

G

Branching in a way that will then all come together and cap, and hopefully a year like.

H

These are all taught like if we, when we were talking about the RFD for the cab and making.

G

Sure that we just mentioned the big topics that we needed to make sure that they had.

G

In the plan, I think every single one of those was mentioned tonight at some point, um meaning.

G

There was already movement on that, and you know like Bill said. That means that that's more that.

G

That consultant can use of momentum, that's already happening, um and so that's it's really cool to see.

G

I'm also very excited for the TV show because gonna be in the Market at some point. Once I get my.

D

D

um I think I am grateful for the expertise. It's so nice to have Phil here and Tori here and just.

D

All these people, who are so knowledgeable about so many different pieces of the puzzle and also.

D

People who are just willing to commit time and effort and energy into them I know Effie.

D

Did an extraordinary amount for the cap, and now she seems like she's, very committed to.

D

The building piece of things um and personally I just feel torn because I want to volunteer.

D

For everything so that I can learn, but in practicality sense, that's not possible. So.

D

um Yeah, that's my takeaway is: where do I send my next efforts? No well. Thank you for having me today.

H

And uh I thought the green buildings presentation was stunningly awesome and uh could be given right.

H

Now, as is to many places, which would have an amazing appeal to the Portsmouth community,.

H

So um I think you should think about that uh yeah. What's that take the show on the road.

E

Take the show on the road at least I mean yeah. It I think you have um really a lot of interested.

H

uh Participants so because it's yeah- it's very well very well done so. That's all I wanted to say.

H

I enjoyed joining the meeting I think particularly uh I'm, looking for a useful fit for the transport.

K

And I think hearing Tori's presentation, I think was very good because I think a lot of the.

K

Security is useful to adapt and I was thinking from your.

K

Presentation that it's relevant but not limited to the cap I mean it's really sustainable buildings.

K

And I think what I'm talking about is sustainable transport as well, and a lot of the same aspects.

K

The supply and the demand and the incentives are, are the same I think, if you add the buildings in.

K

The transport sector, it's it's the whole thing, so I mean it's a piece of cake. Let's just just.

K

Go ahead just go ahead and fix the buildings and get a bunch of buses and we'll be all set. I mean.

K

That's easy easy to go, but it's a I think a lot of food for thought and I I think I'll. Looking.

K

Forward to following up with Peter a bit to get ideas about the focus I mean it could.

K

Be a sustainable transport Focus as well, but I think I'm I'm, particularly I'm, focused on the cap.

K

Because I think the cap is what's really on the table now and a lot of these ideas have been.

K

Floating around forever and just not not happening but I, think adding a community commitment, a city.

K

Council commitment to uh to the cap and to carbon reduction is is a very useful, important thing. I.

K

Mean it's with Transportation, it's all co-benefits as well. Everything that you, you do serves multiple.

K

Multiple goals and greenhouse gas reduction is a compelling initial one. Maybe it's a Tipping Point.

H

um Wow, so I still feel pretty new to this place in regards to.

H

Everything that's going on all the different subgroups and working groups, but.

H

I mean it's I think it's really amazing that two months in you guys well two months into my job, I'm.

H

Still hearing about all these different efforts being thrown into the cap and how much momentum.

H

Has happened? How much is coming together in the just the last like year and with all the different.

H

Ideas tonight everything ties in so well with the climate action plan. We already have Community.

H

Support happening we've had these groups forever and it's really getting the ball rolling and.

H

It's gonna I think it's gonna be really impactful. When we finally get the consultant on board going.

H

Out into the community and having all of us, help them Reach Out and talk to people and do all these.

H

Other awesome projects that we have ideas for and bringing up maybe potential goals for short-term.

H

And long-term stuff, so I think it's very inspiring stuff so yeah uh month, number two for me as a is.

I

A new Committee, Member I love the enthusiasm of all the members. It's been contagious for me.

I

And I'm looking forward to jumping in on some of the subcommittees and adding some value. Thank you.

E

um Well, I've been doing this for a while with Bert here and uh what I was inspired by tonight.

E

Or was not surprised, but um it's great to see three different subcommittees. You know sometimes.

E

We'll go months and nobody will talk about doing anything outside of the meeting and and that's.

E

How it went for years there you go to the meeting, we talk about things, then you come back the next.

E

Month the meeting: well, we have a meeting. We've been doing this already for a while, but now three.

E

Tonight three subcommittees formed essentially or want to form, um which is it is it's perfect.

E

Timing for the cap, in terms of needing that Community engagement needing that involvement.

E

Hopefully, those subcommittees are willing to pull other people into their efforts, because that's.

E

Really how things are going to grow and expand? It's not just membership from this committee, but.

E

Membership from people experts in the field, but also people with enthusiasm out in the community.

E

Who want to do things too and I think we need to keep that momentum going and and really wrap.

E

It up when we get the contractor on board to help us so I like what they like what's happening. Okay,.

B

My takeaway, how lucky are.

B

You sitting here tonight and listening the expertise in this room is unbelievable.

B

um We're incredibly fortunate in Portsmouth to have so many people who.

B

um Have an expertise that you know not. Everyone can say that that they have as a community and.

B

um I'm so happy that people are willing to volunteer their time and offer their assistance in.

B

This process, because I don't have the expertise, I'm I'm here to I'm learning, I'm listening I'm.

B

Happy to facilitate as much as possible where I can but I feel like. We definitely need to utilize.

B

um All the the just the knowledge that we have in this room and outside of.

B

This room, because we're gonna need a lot further by doing that. So thank you all.

F

uh Looking at the screen, Cadence seeing you and seeing us and seeing the table.

F

uh This is a metaphor for how quickly things have changed.

F

We are in a new world, moving quicker with new technology.

F

This committee has for years, I think been a placeholder.

F

To kind of see where the big picture was that's, where I think Peter you're.

F

Saying, starting from an Eco Municipality of the natural step and what I'm taking away.

F

Is uh pretty moving actually the power of our working together uh and doing what we're doing.

F

And I heard the word, inspiration and I take that seriously. There is so much ego anxiety.

F

Around the world that if we can Empower each other to do those things which we can.

F

That is what uh I think creates the positive energy for my daily living.

F

And I'm going to suggest that in next uh weeks, next month's agenda that we have a.

F

Review, obviously, if anybody wants to bring back what they had and that we put on the agenda.

F

Some small segment of time to look at.

F

How we can bring what is emerging pattern.

F

A cap is a umbrella. It's a system, it's a container and I'm looking. What is the container.

F

That we might have that can have all the subcommittees. I kind of.

F

I, don't know what this is, but what's emerging we had a sustainability, Fair.

F

When 1200 people came through to see what were the current uh compost bins in the current thing, I'm.

F

Looking at what is the possibility of having a slideshow uh truly moving, Tori I've been.

F

Looking at buildings for years and from living buildings, you know and there's ideals, but now.

F

It's commercially drug driven and how can we get that information on transportation and all these.

F

Subgroups I, don't know what it is, but submerging, maybe there's something we can Empower others to.

F

Get the information to move and I don't know what it is, but I think it's worth the discussion. What's.

F

A green Council or a fair something so was that what is there a word for that? Do you know what.

F

You know what: how do we take all these little things together and build it, and so that we.

F

The the baby the cap is it maybe in the cap, is what we do and how and I'll bring that bring.

F

Up the Portsmouth climate Solutions, how do we actually communicate this activity to others.

F

Anyway, I set up. Thank you. Everyone motion to adjourn.

A

H

Our next meeting is August 25th. That sounds correct. It would be in August after that Kate.

F

Would be the uh facilitator and who's the uh what's next on the list? So if you don't know.

A

We do a person who I took notes last time, so I facilitated this time. Kate took notes this time.

A

She's still, okay, next time, okay, I think it's just an alphabetical list we have going by is her last.

A

Name cook: it's on the there's, a Google Calendar Google, uh the bird has it uh Kate uh Steve.

F

Who is not here, that's right at the August 25th Steve will facilitate Kate uh rather.

F

August 25th Kate facilitates Steve, takes notes. Okay, let's see.

I

I sent you an email, oh you got a ton of stuff I'm interested.

E

I'm interested in putting just a small vertical access.

I