City of Portsmouth, New Hampshire Sustainable Practices, 26 May 2022

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5.26.2022 Sustainable Practices Blue Ribbon Committee

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Night and due to covet several people at work were out, and so she has to work extra. But she.

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Said to say, hi and she wants to jump back in when she can and for those who josh stanton was looking.

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Forward to being here and uh his dog had some surgery, and he is he'll be here. uh It looks like.

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It's gonna be okay, but he needs to be there and a third person and I'm trying to remember the name.

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Somebody was assigned to the committee two months ago and he was part of.

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Seacoast new hampshire.

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Well, I want to save, because I had he sent me an email that he had to be out of town and he.

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Looked forward to being here again and if anybody remembers his name, I need to look up my email, but.

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uh Those three people did communicate and uh wes tater said he was going to be here tonight.

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But I don't see him so uh those are the people. I know uh we would be communicating.

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No, he said he wanted to present.

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The carbon tax and dividend- I think something in relationship to that.

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All right on to the minutes and where you this is.

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On zoom now just doesn't find this one. I have a question on the minutes.

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Becca were you here last month I was not okay. So that's what I thought but same time. You are.

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Here I could ask you my own, so that was is there? um Does anybody else have a list of the minutes.

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And are they um the attendees as they are stated, you might just read through them quickly, larry.

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Josh denton ben doyle, john kennedy, lawrence riviere, effie, o'malley, gabe, weintraub.

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And evie, with our last name was here I was here. I was here yeah. This is my fault, because.

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I I added the names ben did an excellent job in the minutes and I added the names, but I never.

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Wrote down who was here so I was just going from memory so.

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Is it jessie or jess? Jess is fine jess blasco glasgow and laura laura laura lee harley.

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Why is that? Your first name? Yes, and it's your last name, godfrey g-o-d.

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F-R-E-Y s-r-e f-r-e-y, if r g y e y, I am hard of hearing, you know you got it uh so you know that.

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Evie's last name is douglas uh great, oh and here's aubrey. Just in time.

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Steve was here last week last time he was raising hand. I was here, were you here last week.

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Last month I caught what bert has.

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Oh yeah, I'm probably not officially on the committee and other john, was.

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Here john carty john carty was a guest.

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Here I haven't officially like submitted my quest yeah. I actually have it in here, so I.

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Just need to finish it. Thank you very much. Can I can I keep hearing this, so I can update it. Yeah.

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So with that, I think we have attendance from the minutes.

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Was there any other feedback on the minutes?.

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Do I have a motion to accept the minutes? Oh motion, to accept the minutes, I'll second them. Second,.

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All right we're going to vote did everyone uh vote in favor of accepting the minutes from last month.

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Objections minutes are passed.

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um Going through the list, the cap update, I'm not sure who put that on or who would like to.

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Speak to it, uh I guess I can start so. That's the subcommittee with effie and steve and john carty.

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And I that we've been working on just reviewing caps and gathering information to help peter.

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With the rfp, so at this point, we've identified a whole bunch that we liked we presented to this.

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Group. Last week about some of the details and things that we've seen in effective caps and.

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Now we are reaching out to some of those cities to talk to people who were part of designing and.

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Building those caps and just gleaning information knowledge from them about what worked. What didn't.

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What would they change so we can be as informed as possible as we help peter on the next steps.

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I know personally, I have a couple meetings next week with cities. I think john is in the.

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Same boat, so hopefully we will have information soon and can keep moving forward. I don't know.

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If there's anything else, you either of you would want to add to that peter. Were you.

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We had talked about an rfq at first, but then you had decided that it might be possible to.

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Go another rap at least yeah. I think we've got to talk more about it. Okay, we yeah. I you know one of.

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The ideas we talked about was an rfq before we did an rfp, which is a request for qualifications. You.

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Send out just to get people to throw their name in the hat kind of and give their qualifications. But.

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I think time-wise it might be a little tight, so we talked about maybe doing a pre-announcement.

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And maybe even a pre-meeting to see if people want to come and.

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Hear about it and maybe ask questions before we release our.

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Fees, certainly after we release rfp we'll do that. So the rfq is before the article.

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And the benefit of doing doing it, another way would be maybe a quicker process and maybe a.

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Little bit less formal of just getting engaging interest, yeah and I think the timing, you know.

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If we want to start in june or july, we're not gonna have enough time to develop. It seems like.

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And just for my a personal note, I kind of feel like we're.

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You know on a limb, I kind of feel like we're, have a good base of knowledge.

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I would say that we are pretty close to uh drafting we're starting to draft that.

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I think so I think we're there, but that's just my opinion.

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So maybe others on the subject may think differently, so we're making good progress.

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Thanks for your work on that fantastic thanks, all of you guys, yeah. I had to miss.

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The last meeting because I was taking the carbon footprinting at the unh institute's sustainability.

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So and then we didn't have it yesterday, because we're meeting today.

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So but I agree with steve that we have a lot of what we need to do. Some drafting.

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Excellent any other comments on that.

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All right, fort smith, climate solutions.

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Anybody who is there wants to talk a little bit about it because.

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Just a set of context.

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Portsmouth climate solutions was looking to be a support for the city to adopt a climate action.

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What is delightful to hear and experience is that it's already got legs is on the way it's going to.

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Happen so then the question becomes portsmouth climate solution, which had as its activity.

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To help get the city to adopt a climate action plan now it says that mission is.

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Already there, where do we go? That's good news, so the main thing that any climate action plan.

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If it's going to be effective, has to have community engagement.

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So the group of very small, but very I think, knowledgeable and effective people are working.

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To say how do we get community engagement to accelerate moving toward the climate safe plan.

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And that's the it's so big! How do you get it down to be specific? How do we get it down so that it.

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Has meaning how do we get it down, so we use the limited resources that we have. We get leverage.

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From the system's point of view- and we have almost everybody on the committee- is a powerhouse.

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In terms of their connections, uh one of those people who I highly admire is.

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Sitting directly opposite me and brought something about how to get. Maybe one way to look at that and.

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It was encouraging and uh if you want to pick up the ball from there, that would be helpful.

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Sure we had a really lively meeting last night. The meetings are an hour. Long and bert is really good.

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With start and finish- and um you know when I was first talking about climate.

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Action plan with you all I was thinking: community engagement was getting people's.

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Input to what should go in the plan, you know getting them to come to meetings. Do surveys.

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But as we looked at climate action plans, what bert refers to community engagement is much bigger.

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It's: how do we get households, businesses, organizations to do climate action.

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Like make lifestyle changes that we've all talked about, and we we know about and.

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It was one of those things on the internet, going down a rabbit, hole and not know where.

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It's leading me and I was on the site for albany california, because that's.

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The one I'm going to follow up with for our subcommittee- and I noticed they had their.

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Community interface had a name on it called bright action at the bottom, like powered by bright action.

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So I clicked on it to find out what it was and it's an app just for this purpose.

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And then I went back to the albany community website as if I were going to sign up.

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I was a household interested in making a difference and almost immediately when I.

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Was setting my account up, it said: do you live in albany, california, and sometimes I lie, but.

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This time I didn't, and it said if you don't click here, so I clicked there and it took me to a page.

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Where I could put in portsmouth new hampshire and it it opened up, I could set up a profile.

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And choose actions you can be very complete with your profile like put in what your gas bill and.

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If you have oil and what kind of cars you have and how much you drive, how much you fly kind of thing.

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But then um the the site, the app called bright action, has teams and community something community.

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Networks or something community groups, um so I wrote to the one group: that's set up.

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On the portsmouth page to say, you know who are you because it's I forget what it was called.

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And I haven't heard back from them yet, but a lot of it is pretty standard because we know from.

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Drawdown and other places what things would make a difference if a lot of people did them whether.

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It's like in the main category of building or in the category of transportation. Those are the.

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Two big areas and there's a lot. We wouldn't have to wait for a climate action plan to be working.

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With people to get the word out and get things started so and I'm not saying bright action, is it.

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There are a couple of other apps like this, um but it's it's really great and the group last.

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Night was going on and trying it and this week everyone's going to be researching it.

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And giving it a trial run kind of and coming back next week bert. Was that a fair summary or did I.

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Say anybody here who wants to take a look, uh feel free to go on and join us next wednesday. Seven day.

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And I'll put another little context on that, it was probably peter who was it on our committee.

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Might have been the lawyer wanted a list of things to do to put on our website that people could do.

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It was back in the days when you know books were coming out, 101 things you can do for the environment and there was lists.

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What blows me away and actually encourages me.

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Is when I went on this bright action, which is as epic says, one of many, they don't give you a list.

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They give you how many cars do you have? What do what get? How do you do? You have a bicycle.

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And then they get you your whole they'll set you up with your own carbon footprint.

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And then they will say if you eat, they actually diet. If you eat a.

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One plant-based meal a week, you say and you can earn points.

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So this is already we don't need to reinvent the wheel. We can just get something like this going.

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And uh what then, and what effort brought in the previous week from concord, if you got enough.

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Points you could go down and get an ice cream cone, so it builds community. So it's kind of we've.

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Always been looking how to make it grounded and that's the kind of thing that I think we're doing.

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And everybody's invited to come. Look at that and give your input because we're trying to look at.

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Where do we get the biggest bang for our buck with something that's doable now and build on it? So.

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That we get the cultural shift that we need, which is what I think, portsmouth climate solutions done.

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So the website um is bright action, dot, app, slash new hampshire.

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Is new hampshire spelled out mm-hmm.

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And it's like a lot of climate action plans that we've already looked.

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At had pages like this, like when we went to cooler, concord.

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Want to do something: okay, click here, and it takes you to. You can do this. You can do this.

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You know and that's what this app has set up so and I don't know if it costs.

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We haven't yet gotten that far, so this is just uh initially, but you know here: we've talked about.

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Having two tracks with the climate action plan, because it probably won't be ready to.

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Implement until early 2024, I'm guessing I don't know um and in the meantime we can.

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Be doing things especially having this group portsmouth climate solutions to work with yeah.

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There's a committee enforcements called neighborhood action committee or something.

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Like that they're doing right now, I think the meeting was last night, I'm not sure they're.

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Doing surveys of the different wards so they're having neighborhoods get together and discuss.

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Topics within their neighborhoods and that committee has been running for a number of years.

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I just don't happen to live in an area that belongs to one so yeah.

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I tried to start one, but we have only like 45 homes in the area where I live, so we don't get.

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A lot of participation: well, it's great an app like this. You can set up teams or community groups and.

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You know we looked at a site and there was a church or a.

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You know so it it seems like it's very flexible and might work for us. That's good.

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I'm on it now yeah, no, I'm on it too, very intuitive yeah yeah. That's super cool yeah.

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The other thing about the climate.

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Oh my gosh enforcement climate solution. uh You all know about the book.

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How many know about the book regeneration I meant to bring that coverage. uh Oh it.

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All right regeneration, I want to just bring our committee for those who aren't aware. This is the.

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Solutions and that's what we need from an equal municipality we've got the big principles. The.

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Natural step, we have the solutions now, why would bill mckibben come out and make another whole book.

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After raja, does anybody know walking on there yeah? What did I say mckenna because.

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And I was just reading about him, so thank you, larry for and I just sing if you were away.

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I do that frequently, so anybody please feel free to help me along and paul hawkins wrote this book.

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And he's talking about what we're going to do to get to a climate safe planet in one.

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Generation is that 10 years, 20 years, no, it's more 30 generations, 20 something all right, 20, something.

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He wants to get there by uh 2002., so what is he doing and I'm saying that's a big task. I haven't.

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Read the book I've gone through pieces of it, but I'm getting this email saying the waggle.

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How many have seen the waggle like the wagon- and I said why am I getting another piece like this.

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And this is from regeneration.

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And he is in the waggle each week when I'm getting it, he has sections that are.

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Taking us uh intersection of the natural and virtual world, and then he invents articles.

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Where they embed articles, so they have a team who's sorting through this stuff.

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And I I can tell you I say uh I used to my my way to read a book. Was I opened it to three pages.

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And if every page I read I wanted to, if I got through three I'd, say: okay, I'll read: it.

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I'm hitting these things, I'm saying this stuff, I don't know.

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So what I'm, what I'm feeling and why I bring it up in terms of the cap.

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And fortunate climate solution, we are truly creating the path as we walk in.

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And when I said this weekend, what am I looking forward to? I need to slow down.

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And make sure the best of my ability, I'm taking in that which is going to help us get where we need.

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To go because I don't know anybody who knows how to get there, but there's so much going on.

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And really exciting stuff, and I just thought I'd say about the wagon.

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So anything else about fortunate climate solutions. Well we're still talking about a climate, fair.

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But you know, if we're going to have an app that we want to get out in the community, it would make.

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Sense to have that in mind before we have the fair, I think, and I would raise one other thing.

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Rotary international international.

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I'm looking on the drawdown website brought down rotary. They have now become part of the initiative.

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For sustainability, I would have never put those two together. We have somebody on our corporate.

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Climate solutions in the rodeo she was in the road. He didn't even know that this is a 100th year.

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Anniversary they're putting out a hundred thousand dollars into giving grants to sustainability and.

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They have a whole sustainability agenda. The reason I bring it up, uh peter you might know more about.

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This, if it's too late, but I was thinking we could probably get a grant from rotary if we were to.

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Get a grant that said we want and by the way the conference I'm going all over the place, because.

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This is when we had the symposium, the woman from unh said they were having sustainability fellows.

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Is that what they called them if we could get a sustainability fellow get a grant from the.

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Rotary, which I don't think would be that difficult to pay part of that salary and.

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Then again for the city and have them be. We were talking about the website for.

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uh Portsmouth client solutions: uh do you know about the process and yeah.

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They're, starting now the fellows are starting end of june, so the application process starts in, like.

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November, but we could do that in november, we've had about like two or three fellows from the past.

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From unh they're great, um you pay half the unh pays half of their salary over the summer, and I.

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Think for not just their salary, there's overhead and different things, but I think it was like.

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Five or six thousand dollars we've paid over the years. It went up a little bit.

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But they're excellent because they're the fellows have to apply to be part of the for.

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The projects that are listed so first we send in our project and then the sustainability institute.

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Says we'll take your project, so if we say we want to do whatever we want to do.

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They say: okay, that sounds like a good project, we'll put it out there and see if anybody applies.

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To it, then the fellows apply for specific projects, but it's a pretty big pool. Then unh narrows it.

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Down to several two or three candidates that then each community or organization interviews for.

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The fellow and then they they find one they like, then they come work for them for the summer and.

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They're doing it now, so they have the summer program, but I think they're also trying to do a.

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Year around for them yeah sure I found to think if we wanted to get in on board for the summer.

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And I was thinking about and I'm throwing this out there, because everything now is we're used to two.

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Three four five year lag times and I noticed kate you put on a conference act coming up.

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Utah we heard about it last night in a year, but I'm thinking I throw this out to the eco club.

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Is there anybody who's graduating? Who would want a summer job? Who would you know I'm just.

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Trying to think about somebody who wants and will be skilled and if we got a little grant.

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And we had an eco club person who wanted a summer job rather than working at the ihop. If you could.

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Get the same money or flat bread, we could get you the same money and you could be working on that.

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Would that be something? Do you only want someone, that's graduated or graduating? uh I want to get.

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Your and my and all of our kids futures, so I want whatever I'm going to do. This is coming.

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Off the top of my head so yeah I mean, I would say, maya's graduating um she's, not here tonight, but.

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That's from eco club, I mean I would be interested too, but I'm also I'm not graduating.

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Somebody, if you saw maybe I think it's better than an individual, to get a team if there are.

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Two people to work together on something like this: uh just keep that open and also.

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Maya's been on the committee for how many and one or two years now.

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Quite a while um a little over a year, yeah, okay yeah! I brought this book around.

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And I thought if she was here tonight, we could all sign it for and give it to her.

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But I still think we could all sign it and um we can get it to her yeah. We can deliver it to her.

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Next item is the report to city council.

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Any takers, well I put when I sent out the agenda I sent out the.

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Report that was put together by the middle school students under chris was a teacher there.

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That asked them. What did he ask them specifically.

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To keep up with the climate solution basically right see.

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The most impactful energy proposals that the eighth grade- students develop for our city.

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So great that means what 13 years old.

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I just sent it out, and the city council and kate can speak to this a little more if there.

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Was more discussion, but the city council made a motion chris rose presented to the city council.

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And the council made a motion that they get a report back from the sustainability committee on.

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On the uh proposals that the students put together- oh I saw it.

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And there's there's the top one. So there's seven in here, that's what we all got. I would.

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Say that there wasn't a lot of discussion at the city council level, we were just so.

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Thrilled to receive these and so excited about them and the city council immediately thought.

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That sustainability was the right place for these to go and have sustainability. Look at them.

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Reflect on them any thoughts and report back to the council. I got a letter from chris. The.

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Social studies teacher and I think we're right on target in terms of communication.

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uh And I think what it would be good to do if we will take a look at these josh put into our.

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City's proposals, the energy plan- and it would be nice to look at these and see if they were in sync.

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With the ones that are already in place and synergized uh that this is coming from the middle.

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School, this is what the experts came at here. So as we make presentations, it starts to build a.

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What we want is that synergy of everybody looking and moving it forward. So I haven't.

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Looked at that yet and there's one copy of it, it was excuse me it was sent out in the email.

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When I sent out the agenda last week, I just chose to print it out because I can understand it's.

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Just me, but I get more out of reading a hard copy than I do, of reading it off of a computer.

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uh So I did take a look at those proposals. I just did a brief notes for myself here. Some of.

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Them deal with uh solar power on private buildings. Some of them are more public.

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So I I think it's going to tie into maybe item 6 renewable energy opportunities pretty well.

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So I'll just maybe leave it at that because we could kind of, I think, maybe the goal here is.

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To see how we can I mean it's tough to say you can't tell a private person to.

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Put solar panels on a specific building, but we certainly can't incentivize that.

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So I think that's how it's going to tie into the next. The upcoming uh item on the agenda so yeah.

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It was, it was good stuff. Yeah I mean there was. There was ones that had a had on top of water.

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Yeah yeah one that had solar trees, which was really interesting. I looked it up. I've never.

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Which is for the at the the picture here, and this is of the uh I believe, the north mill porn.

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Looking from bartlett street towards uh maplewood avenue and they're, showing these all in the pond.

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And the thing of it that gets me is that these are 13 year olds. These are 13 year olds. Think about.

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The aspect of thinking out of the box just give it to the kids to do you know I've been reading.

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To kids and I've been reading them to little kids and I'm reading them stories of working.

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Together as a team to do something- and um this is amazing- that this- that this many out of the eighth.

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Grade came up with the stuff that they did. I know that there are and they've addressed these issues.

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uh That there are negatives that go with the application of solar power to.

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Different things and one of them said something about putting a.

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Solar tree in front of the north church- and I thought to myself that won't fly.

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There are too many tourists who want to take a picture of that, but not the tree in the front.

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Of it, but it's still a great idea to have a solar tree. I remember driving to lebanon, new.

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Hampshire from 89 and somewhere in that drive on 89, there is this fake tree that stands out like.

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A sore thumb I mean, if you're, actually just gaze at the countryside as you're driving by.

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Whoa, what the heck is that, because it doesn't look like a real tree, but it's made to look like a tree.

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So that's pretty cool because of counting tower. That's a communication.

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But if you're talking about this, not just talking about something that looks super utilitarian all.

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Sitting off the side of the road somewhere now you're talking about like incorporating it into.

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Like public sculpture, or something like that, something where it actually becomes part of.

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The community, so I like that yeah, I looked it up in the singapore garden. It's a landscape feature.

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They have, I don't know how many there's a bunch of them. Some of them have solar and but they're.

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These really tall 50 meters tall and they have some of them- collect rain water for the garden.

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Some of them have solar, they have different and they they provide shading and cooling. They sound.

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Pretty neat but yeah you got to pick the location like you can't put it. They just block a view.

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Or something like that, but they're pretty neat, aren't poultry silver trees. That's true! Actually,.

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Okay, so I didn't want to skip in front of anyone, um so I just wanted to mention. I was so.

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Just yeah blown away by the letter from from mr rose and then the proposals from the.

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The students, so I want to celebrate the students, ideas and creativity first of all, but then also.

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Charlie rose, I mean I so my daughter maggie's in his class and several months ago.

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He went through this exercise of having the students, do a mock ted talk and it was all.

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About sustainable solutions, so I think there's an opportunity to maybe think about also coming.

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Up with sort of some sort of acknowledgement or sustainability, award and academics for.

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For him and then he so that's one thing I just wanted to mention- um is that he's clearly this.

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Is a passion and he's building up these students to present their ideas, and I think the other thing.

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That he seems to be in favor of is giving the kids an opportunity to actually present publicly.

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Their ideas, so I was trying to think of some way that we could obviously provide.

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A response right to these amazing proposals and say these are some of the things the city.

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Is already incorporating or thinking about um and is there a way to um just acknowledge some things.

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That we'd like to take on perhaps as a city, so there's a lot there's a lot in there for sure.

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Larry um dan, I'm only speak not only speaking to you, but the eco club.

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In general should get these kids names. I literally I just sent a text to our um miss mcglinchey and.

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I said I literally said these are amazing. We need these eighth graders in our club next year.

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And I go, can I please send them an email, so I will be sending them an email and recruiting them too.

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And then also I was thinking um it would be interesting too, like if eco club was able.

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Because recognizing that I know if I was in eighth grade and these high schoolers are like.

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Were reaching out and being like, this is awesome like that would be like amazing feeling, so I feel.

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Like that, we definitely like eco club will reach out too, and then you know, maybe next year we can.

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Get them to come to these meetings. Eighth graders, a project to work on for their whole life. I was.

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Like it would be nice to talk to them about like what we do too, because I I mean, I think.

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Those I've just looked at it and it's a lot like it's. They did a really really good job. There's.

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A lot of information- I wasn't doing stuff like that in eighth grade: hey that much send a copy.

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Of your email to the science teacher, chris rose yeah and I was also gonna email, the teacher so.

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I yeah, I just sent a text to mcglinchey about how seven out of I don't know how many eighth.

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Grade students there are down there, but he picked probably the top seven yeah. It was probably in the.

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Others, a lot of redundancy, so that's probably his reason for only picking seven, it's great.

G

What I think is interesting about the proposals, is they they universally involve solar and, and so.

G

These students have really looked at this, and it's it's interesting when you have a large group of.

G

Students all come to the same conclusion. You know they're, basically, all saying okay, this is.

G

This is something that would not be difficult for us to do so then the question becomes how.

G

Does this city first of all, incentivize this for private businesses, because this you can't you know.

G

Necessarily mandate it, but you can incentivize it. So what steps do we have as far as land use goes.

G

um And provisions around that or even tax incentives we have um to incentivize solar.

G

On rooftops, um what do we have in the way it's getting in the way of that? You know.

G

So we have a few things as far as land use in hdc codes. You know, what can you do for.

G

Solar on top of buildings, in historic district and in the downtown overlay district.

G

Especially that would especially impact the proposal around using solar as awnings.

G

That's particularly that would be particularly challenging in those districts, but so what do.

G

We have as far as obstacles that are getting in the way of this. What are we doing at the city.

G

To incentivize this on other buildings for the city itself, so what do we have in the cip budget?.

G

In the long run, are we thinking about that adding solar to the rest of our city buildings beyond the.

G

High school in the cip budget, because it was another part of the proposal, you know there's.

G

There's so many things that we can do at the city level to take this very seriously um and- and I.

G

Will say that you know in casual conversations with other city councilors. These are things.

G

That we have talked about to some degree things about what what what is dis-incentivizing people.

G

What's getting in the way, and what can we do to to shift that thinking so we're incentivizing.

G

Solar and this especially for me, there's a there's, especially a cross over here, because I sit on an.

G

Energy advisory already so we're already talking about community power and how we get there um and.

G

So the city's already talking about like how do we provide power that is renewable to our population.

G

But it'd be great if we were also thinking the back end of that too, how do we, how do we generate.

B

Call myself, um I think, it's great and where I was kind of going with this is I don't want to.

B

Dissuade them from these full big projects, but like it would be really cool if they got solar.

B

At the middle school right like if that is like a completion of like their work and like their time.

B

At that school, which is probably in line with what a lot of you know, other people want across the.

B

City buildings, but like when the high school, like empower themselves to get rid of styrofoam right.

B

Like did it on their own, you know turf and if they could it's almost in some ways, a smaller project.

B

Right like going against these private um entities is a whole. You know whole different can of worms.

B

But if they kind of small-size that which is still a big project but like figure out what.

B

The right resources that we're all talking about being like hey, listen, we brought solar to a whole.

B

New building in portsmouth- and it goes beyond the middle uh beyond the high school, beyond the.

B

Water plant, I think that would be kind of a cool little way to tie the bow on.

B

And almost hopefully kick start other discussions right then you have like newspaper coverage and they can kind of call out the goodness that these.

B

Kids did and then try to amplify that message beyond that. One thing, but it's kind of just.

B

Slowly kind of continuing to march for it and hopefully like kicks off something bigger.

J

I think that's a great idea, especially with the middle school, because it just went through a.

J

Large renovation that made it a more efficient building.

J

My only hesitation with solar generally is, I think, part of the reason why.

J

So many of those are on there is because solar is a very visible thing that people see you can.

J

See it on rooftops around and it makes you think, oh efficiency, that's a solar thing.

J

So it's an easy thing to grasp for in the industry I work in which is sustainable buildings.

J

The the the kind of maybe less or a little bit pejorative term is the screen dressing. You know.

J

It's like there, you could have a really crappy building. That's using ton of energy. You throw some.

J

Solar panels on and all of a sudden, it's a green building where it's still not a very efficient.

J

Building so I don't want to put too much focus on just things like that, without looking at the whole.

J

Systematic approach to bring the energy usage down because the most efficient kilowatt is one.

J

You don't have to use at all, and one of the things that was brought up using solar is that before you.

C

Put solar up there, you make sure you've got a roof. That's going to last another 20 or 30 years before.

C

You go ahead and put solo up here, because solar lasts around 25 years, and so so you don't want to.

C

Be putting it up and taking it down, because that just increases the cost of getting the silver act.

C

Of action, that's why that's why I think the middle school is important because it's you know recently.

B

Done library is also done so, theoretically, like that's a really engineering, you could do those two.

B

And potentially set up a like a charging station as well right and then it kind of.

B

Starts to build from there right, it's downtown, that's prime location. Teachers have electric.

B

Cars, like I think, even that one project could be you know, library, middle school and a charging.

B

Station or two like that is, and also very much um should be a focus on the new police station. That's.

F

Just we're just starting to think about you know, should build the infrastructure in there for.

J

Electric police, cars, for example, and the whole roof should be solar. That's a question that.

J

Has come to me they're doing a great street lot right now. Is that being piped for.

C

Solar, so we get sold, receive solar and then we have charging stations there, they're putting in.

D

uh Conduits for future charging stations, solar would have to be some sort of joshua ideas with.

D

Like an awning or something that you could add after I was going to say a lot of the.

I

Cities and towns we've been looking at have done solar over parking lots. So it's a whole.

I

Lot of games- and I didn't want to lose track of what rebecca said about something that we.

I

Can do in the near future for the teacher and the students to keep their interest.

I

Up and whether there's an award or haven't come to city council- or I don't know the best thing to do,.

I

Get the newspaper to interview them, I don't know yeah. Would we maybe want to form like a.

E

Subcommittee to read these more thoroughly and then I think someone was talking about.

E

Comparing them to current energy policy or what counselor denton was proposing.

E

And then they can make a plan from there whether to you know, involve newspaper, etcetera,.

I

So, are you going to chair the subcommittee, you know what I mean. I have no idea what the energy.

E

Energy policy is right now, but I am on board. What's the timing for the kind of read back to.

B

Council, four years antarctica: well, uh what's your question: what's the timing that they.

B

Want kind of our feedback, I think, back to looking for a report right yeah, that's what.

D

The council asked for yeah yeah, it wasn't stated at the time what I was thinking was. We are also.

A

Been asked to give feedback to the council of what we as a committee are recommending, and I was.

A

Thinking the one thing we have, the most valuable thing is talk, and so I'm thinking what if we.

A

Laura lee, if the committee were to give them, they were practicing for a ted talk.

A

So this could be a ted talk, five-minute ted talk to the city council on summarizing.

A

Their ideas and how they synergize with the energy plan all right, and that would be uh if we did that.

A

And we could couple their presentation uh with where our current committee is doing in terms of.

A

I guess updating some of our, I don't know would be helpful to do the cap where we've done this.

A

Just to a 10-15 minute, here's what we're working on here's! Some of the things we're.

A

Looking at and we could do a report out from the subcommittee and and we're saying all of these.

A

Things are coming together because we want to create the climate that is going to with.

A

Joy and celebration create those things that are going to be healthy for all of us. There's enough.

A

Down stuff: here's where we have that are positive things that are going on; here's, our thinking and.

A

That's kind of where I'm thinking about uh reports of the city council and we, when uh kate you.

A

Probably know how what would that look like in terms of it be helpful to the council? Would it.

A

Be uh if we had a 15-minute report when or not at all, using the three gates we wanted to be true.

A

We wanted to be needed, we wanted to be kind to your time and energy.

G

So I have two things here: if we include a report back say like a ted talk, type process.

G

With the middle schoolers, I think we need to be really conscious of timing. I don't know what the.

G

Last day of school is but our city council meetings in june are the 6th and the 21st.

G

And the 6th may be difficult um just because that's budget approval, the 21st would be better.

G

Timing but school I'm guessing gets out that week. It's out like before 17th is when we get out. Okay.

G

So so that would be a challenge for these students. um That's the only thing that I would caution on.

G

um Beyond that, I think the council is accustomed to getting report backs from committees. Some.

G

Committees report back every six months, some report back at the end of the year, usually there's.

G

A written report, maybe there's just a presentation like a powerpoint presentation to the council.

G

It's completely reasonable and it would be really good to have an update at the council level.

G

For um process and where we are in the process, especially after the sex, so I would say, like aim.

G

For june 21st, or even if the committee wanted to report back um in early july, either one so.

G

You have a six-month report back to the council and that presentation doesn't even have to be.

G

15 minutes you know, usually it's five to ten minutes. You know I. I was going to suggest that.

I

This committee has to report to the council and that we keep that separate from the.

I

Middle school presentation, because I think it will be- I think, they'll steal the show.

I

And we have a lot to cover and I know when the mayor came to this committee. He asked.

I

Us to keep in touch with the council, so I think we really are due for that.

F

Maybe a a suggestion. Sorry, oh! No, no, you can go there. You go um a suggestion. I totally agree. Effie.

F

And that maybe, um since city council has asked us to kind of take on this information, and this.

F

Letter and these proposals from these students- maybe a nice first step- would be to invite them.

F

To come here and present, they can each take four or five minutes, and then we come prepared. Knowing.

F

Where renewable energy policy is what's happening with community power, where we are with the climate.

F

Action plan because then we they can ping pong questions off of us as to maybe what's possible.

F

And then kind of come up with with next steps, but would that mean like.

E

Our report would be like in july or something our report would be later if we wanted them to come to.

E

Our next meeting our report from sustainable practices, yeah back to council, possibly.

F

See how it goes with having a good discussion and give them a chance to present and.

J

Our next meeting will probably be after they're out of school yeah yeah.

E

um So I'll plan on, like from an eco client, eco club side of things, um I'll probably end.

E

Up reaching out to them like this week, um just so that, because they'll probably be on their emails,.

E

Once school gets out, they're probably not going to look at them, um but I blame them yeah. So I.

E

Mean I don't know how I would want to invite, but I think having them if they're interested having.

E

Them come to that next meeting and like because also like putting an eighth grader or like how.

E

Young, they are in front of uh city council can be really scary. I've spoken from state council before.

E

And I always get nervous and if I was in eighth grade I don't even know if I would go for it. So.

E

I think bring them here first and like going through what they have to say and just making.

E

Them kind of feel like we're on their side of things and then bringing it to that point like.

E

Later on, if we want to, but I don't know how we want to ask them to I mean I could include it.

E

In my email, but also I can just go from an eco clip side of things, I don't either or.

A

I like that idea, and I think we do have a two-hour meeting and we're in june.

A

uh It will probably be after school, but I think if we had them here and rather than one, I was.

A

Thinking that they they might have any of the uh they could select who might be around if you'd.

A

Like to come and present and represent them and I'd say it could be more than one and we.

A

Could give them 15 minutes and they could have a joint talk or whatever it might be, be useful to us.

E

Do we want to like reach out to them like? Are we reaching out to the kids themselves or we're.

E

Reaching out to the teacher to really really reach out to the future and say.

A

I wouldn't set the teacher up at the end of the year to get the kids all involved. I would say.

A

He's very enthusiastic and I'm sure he's trying to close out the school year and I might suggest.

A

If you're writing to him that our group was open to having them come and make a presentation, if.

A

That would be useful to where he sees the kids act and we could name the meeting which is june.

A

23Rd 23rd that they could come and he could be accompanying them and just give us.

A

That's what so, should I reach out an email or do is that's something that, like you, guys want to do.

A

uh I'm fine with your doing it. This is just an idea, we're forming it. If you could do it.

E

Darla done yeah I'll, do it and then, but I was thinking too. I could always like.

E

Email, the kids, because, like also we can come from like a high schooler side of.

E

It be like oh you're, coming here next year, like we want to get you involved, but then also like I will be like I'm part of the like. I go to the committee meetings like we'd love,.

E

To have you, we read your letters like we'd love to have you come in and present like that'd, be.

E

And put it more as like an option rather than like your teachers making you do it because.

E

If it's like your teachers, make you doing it, it's not out of not necessarily out of them.

E

Their want, it might be, like your teacher, oh you got to go, do it the feeling is that.

A

His he chris you're going to be. He said he wanted this recorder, so his class could.

A

See it and I think most good teachers and I'm assuming that.

A

uh Would not make it a it would be something where it would be something where they have.

E

The choice, if you're doing that kind of thing exactly and it's in the summer so.

C

But she plays in the band.

C

You're directing the band, but she plays in the family. She wants to do what she wants to.

C

Do and you're telling her to march. The other way, let me see is that what you're experiencing no.

E

I think we have a good plan. I did have a couple of questions about the committee. Is anybody here.

E

Educated on energy policy for the city know about it for the most part, looking kind of over at you.

B

Well, I would hope so somebody uh just what you guys were referring to into comparing it.

E

To what they had proposed and seeing where were they synergized and matched up essentially.

D

Well, there's one student that talked about the power purchase agreement, which is I mean I don't.

D

Know where they got it from, but they were right on target. That's what we do with the water plant and.

D

That's what we look at for new projects too, so that part of it was right on in terms of other.

D

Energy policy- they didn't really get into it too much but yeah. I think we between brian and I and.

D

Probably others that are working on future energy policy: okay, great austin, like an email afterwards.

B

All right, I think, we're good on that topic, so we're gonna roll right into renewable.

B

Energy opportunity, I don't know how that is a little bit separate, but let's dive.

B

In put this on the agenda.

H

Okay, so I guess it's just a question that something was brought to my attention and.

H

I just wanted to get a little clarification on it um in a conversation that I stumbled into a month.

H

Or two ago someone had made the claim to me that the city had ordinance of some kind, preventing.

H

Utility scale, solar installations or solar farms. I was not aware that that was the case and I.

H

I asked peter about it at the last uh subcommittee meeting and I really just kind of want to bring.

H

It up to clarify any misunderstandings that there may be around what is our.

H

What what might prevent it if someone wanted to do it? What are the because we discussed the options.

H

For the city, doing such a thing versus private and there's land use stuff. So that's a big land.

D

Use question um I mean it's, it's kind of a stretch to say it's prohibited, but where zoning ordinance.

D

Works if it's not specifically listed, then you could say it's prohibited. So the way our zoning.

D

Orders is it's a permissive ordinance, so it has to be stated that you can have uh three units on this.

D

Lot versus a single family house that residents a lot that can only have one unit on it. There's ways.

D

Around that, in terms of like a variance or things like that, but in terms of the you know process you.

D

Know if someone has a project that they want to do, and it's not allowed in the ordinance, usually it.

D

Gets looked at closely, especially something new like that, it would get looked at and there'd be.

D

You know options, there hasn't really been people exploring that I wouldn't have heard about it. The.

D

Big limitation is there's no uh there's a cap on the net metering, so you can't necessarily.

D

Put a huge solar farm and then just sell it off unless you're a municipality. Now.

D

They just passed a law where municipalities can do that. I forget the amounts and how it works, but.

D

So it could be put into the ordinance, but I guess there's a lot a lot of questions about where you'd.

D

Want to allow that and where it would go and what the you know would it be in wetland areas.

D

Would it be an open space areas would prevent other developments so yeah I mean solar farms.

D

Might be great in a really big rural area, we don't have a lot of rural land or farms that.

D

Really have any of that. That's always great. So my scenario, I guess the other, I guess just to follow.

D

Up is when you think about use, you think about a primary use for accessory use, and if you're, do it.

D

As a primary use, then yeah the ordinance doesn't say you can do it as a primary use. That's not to.

D

Say that you couldn't figure out a way to do it. But if you had a farm or a big field and.

D

You wanted to solder it that's an accessory, so that's different, so you probably could I.

H

So in my biggest scenario in my mind, I always thought it would be great to have, because I.

H

Have some personal experience with the jones app dump? I used to go out there and mow it and.

H

I was like what cool field it is, but it is just capped, landfill yeah and we have solar at madbury.

H

You know so what if, for instance, the city said: oh we're going to take this and do something with it.

H

We're going to put solar over this cap landfill. Could that be done? The argument is, could it.

H

Versus would we want to do it? I know if there are other, maybe possible, uses for that.

H

Land as far as keeping it natural and having public access- and that is right. But if, if we.

H

Made that decision and said we want to pursue this, there's nothing preventing that from.

H

Happening is that correct? Would that be correct if the city, you know influenced it yesterday,.

D

Yeah well, but there'd also be uh resist requirements to get uh des to improve.

D

It because it's a cap, landfill, it's a groundwater management zone, so there's.

D

There'll be other requirements beyond that, but but it's and it has a.

D

So it's a possibility that would be different from a private person wanting to do something.

J

That's right so, just just to clarify what you're saying you're saying that there is no.

J

um Area in the city, that explicitly has it as an accepted primary use. That's right! Okay,.

J

So then, sort of what your person was saying is true. Then, if it's not explicitly stated.

J

Then is prohibited unless somebody wants to go through a variance process.

J

Which can be time consuming yeah? I would say, that's probably true yeah, but if someone came in.

H

And said: hey, we want to put it a giant solar farm. First of all, where is the land that you're going.

H

To do this, you have to find that land yeah and I don't think it's even allowed by by state law. So I.

D

Don't I don't know you could just come put a huge solar apartment on a piece of property and put.

D

It on the grid as a private product, maybe every source could, but I don't think I've tried to talk.

D

So it's a little more, I think I mean complicated than just a lace paper yeah a few different.

H

Variables that work right, I think something really really different. All over the place.

E

Yeah very different, I would say, it'd- be very, very difficult to get the variance.

G

Because you'd have to to show why you actually needed a variance for this yeah hardship and.

G

In that case, there's not really hardship. Well, I guess the point I brought up was too that.

D

There's not a lot of people looking to do that, because the value of property that you can put.

D

Solar panels on is so high in portsmouth that it's not the for the highest and best use of.

D

Development yeah agreed: that's why I bring up the jones app thing because I'm like all right.

H

There's nothing happening there. It's like you, know, brownfield type, there's no other.

H

Use for that land right now, there's been a lot of talk about recreation on it right.

E

No clean power, yeah.

E

But some something we really should be working on is this accessory usage.

G

You know the accessory usage on property is something that we really should be thinking about.

G

um And I I'd love to see this committee thinking about that and making recommendations.

G

That go forward to land use the land use committee. That's looking at changes to the zoning code.

D

And it might be in there an accessory yeah yeah. We just need it in zones that are.

G

When you add it in in zones that are difficult like in the htc and in the overlay districts,.

G

Then it's much easier to get these things approved. You know what you find is like when.

G

Something's not in the code and that's been the challenge around ev chargers.

G

It's not in the code, so you have to go and get special permission. You know it so.

G

Once it's in the code, you don't need the special permission to get it. You don't need.

G

That variance, and so that's that's, the goal is, if you make sure these things are there.

G

Especially for large buildings, it'll be a lot easier to get approvals.

H

Looking at the code yeah- and I think that's the kind of thing that the climate action.

D

Plan is going to explore yeah detail and what other communities do and what's successful and.

D

Where they hit problems and issues with.

D

People trying to put them in places.

B

Is there any other business that people want to talk about we're kind of flying through the agenda.

B

Tonight, bert, I need help. I would like to have passed this book around for everybody to sign.

A

And I would like it to be nurturing and good and truthful, and so I need.

A

Somebody to help me finish this sentence and I thought or any ideas I've been saying, maya.

A

Thank you for your contribution to our blue living committee on sustainable practices.

A

We wish you the best as you move on to your next phase of life. If you wish, we wish you the best. I.

A

Don't want to be too is there anybody who writes something better, I'd like us to have you can just.

I

Say I couldn't hear who it was for I'm sorry, this is for maya, oh okay, this one's in her last meeting.

A

She's been on the committee for a year, she's practicing her sport now so she's missed out, but.

A

I'd like to give her on part of our committee and have her assignment. But I didn't want to.

A

I'm not good at writing. You can say like good luck at college, where she go to college she's.

A

Going to nyu, you could be like good luck in the big city or something you're like all right.

A

I didn't know she was going to college and I didn't want to assume it. Yes, she is going.

E

To college and she's going to nyu all right so that that's what I needed right so to identify.

A

Thank you for your contributions to our movement committee.

A

And sustainable practices: uh good luck at uh mi, nyu, nyu.

G

That's what you should write.

A

How would you write that.

I

All the best we know you will be successful at nyu. May europe don't take you through nyu successfully.

G

How about that again? May your power take you through nyu successfully and don't forget about.

E

Your ben and darla don't forget about the blue run community. Don't forget about your club. Come.

B

Let your experiences at city hall, guide, you in this new phase of life.

A

And then I'll pass around because we have time to do that. I've got a bunch of really quick things.

I

Portsmouth, smart growth and I'm not sure who else is putting on a community power.

I

Event that was going to be my note, my other june 29th wednesday, at 3s.

I

So it would be great if we could all be there. What time is that june 29th, I think at 6, 30 or 7.

I

I don't know the time it's on their website now you can register on portsmouth smartgrowth.org.

I

630. portsmouth smart growth june 29th. um The second thing was, I was uh just.

I

They're not having all the same people that spoke to city council in august.

I

It's a slightly different group and somebody from well somebody from lebanon, somebody from hanover.

I

I I don't remember the speakers, but it looks good.

I

It looks great.

I

And then at the tedx portsmouth a couple people were there. um There was.

I

One presenter and she spoke about unh. Had I don't know what it's called, but a title.

I

Energy thing on memorial bridge- and we had talked about highlighting things like that.

I

So I just wanted to mention it, so if anyone has connections with whoever's doing that.

I

And we can follow up more brian, you probably know about it with all your think, blue and everything.

B

That's uh that's all yeah yeah, okay, but I I know a little bit about it.

D

And to figure out what work to think of a lot of people concerned with well.

D

Is fouling and so it's I think I don't know if they've actually tested technologies yet, but.

D

It's a big national science foundation. I think grant that they have and there's unh has a whole.

D

Committee that has been working on it is there a rich person? Is there any sign there or anything.

D

I think there's a little plaque there. There is okay I'll, have it for it, so I just wanted to.

I

Mention that and then there was some housekeeping I wanted to mention. The notes from last month were.

I

Fantastic, I think ben did thank you, but I wanted to say um I would appreciate it if we make part.

I

Of the notes when the next meeting is because some confusion came up with oh, I should have done this.

I

Email well, no one's done that before ben. So you know don't feel bad, but I think it would be good.

I

To make that part of our notes and the note-taker name, you know submitted by ben whatever and then.

I

um The time of the meeting I had a question because we start the recording after we do our.

I

Opening question right: we don't start the recording until we've had that time. Right.

I

Yeah, so if somebody's calling in like they're interested in sustainability and want to learn.

I

About the committee, I think it says it starts at 6 30.. They can see the meeting started. I started.

D

They can see the meetings going they're in the waiting room.

I

So when we have our actually they'd be in the meeting, it just won't be recorded, so they oh okay,.

I

They hear it okay, because I didn't want people coming and thinking. What is this? Is it 6, 30, okay,.

D

They come if they log in then I let them in right. I just don't start the recording.

D

Okay- and I also record with this camera, it's a different system that doesn't use zoom.

D

Because the producers just like to have two copies in case, one just works as well.

D

The sound doesn't work as well or whatever great. I try to remember the people.

D

Great and then on my list was the city council update, which we didn't really finish.

I

Talking about, I feel like it would be good to have some plan for that.

I

You know when the mayor came, he asked for regular updates could be quarterly could be.

I

Every six months, but we're due and we've had a lot going on, so I think it'll be worthwhile.

F

Just get in line, and one after the other.

I

You know the presentation we had from the subcommittee last month. Was it about.

I

Climate action plans- I think the council would be interested in that I mean we presented, probably a.

I

Little bit differently, but a lot of that. And then what we're talking about. With this new app and.

I

We've got a lot going on, so I don't know how that happens or bert. If you.

I

Take care of that kate. You've got your hand up so.

G

If one of the city councilors knows that you have, we have an update coming up, we can make sure that.

G

The city clerk knows, but then ultimately any kind of report or request would go either through staff.

G

Or through the city clerk's just to make sure it's on the agenda for a committee report back.

G

um Through the chair of the committee, so that's usually kind of the process and and really these.

G

Reports come in different forms and you know some committees submit a written report to the council.

G

And then they also do a little presentation, other others can come and just do the presentation.

G

Piece, I would say it's really helpful for the council to have something in their hands even.

G

If it's a printout of a powerpoint presentation and we get a lot of presentations that are just.

G

A powerpoint with explanations, but it's helpful to have that because it's kind.

G

Of a reminder, always you can take your notes there. You know exactly what was discussed so.

A

Now I was listening uh june first meeting is not good second meeting uh the second or the.

A

Third, where would you see us getting the most useful? um I just said that the sixth would be.

G

More difficult because that's the budget night, where we adopt the budget.

G

um And um so I imagine there's already quite a bit on that. There's actually, I know there's a quite a.

G

Bit at the introduction of that meeting, which the committee reports come kind of at the beginning.

G

So we already have a lot on the agenda. That's why I said maybe the 21st would be better.

G

That's the second meeting in june. The next meeting of the council, I believe, is the 11th.

G

Of july, following that, my feeling was unless effie, I think your powerpoint was good, that we're not.

A

Going to meet yeah before that, so I would say we put it on the agenda for our next meeting.

A

And plan to now tell them we will give it so we fix their mind, we'll do it on the july 11th and.

A

Just say we will give the report, and uh since you have this slide, is there somebody who can.

A

Put that on the agenda, whatever you need to do or can't kate uh you just went through the process.

A

Yeah, I was still focusing on something else. No, it's fine. um I I can talk to peter and coordinate.

D

When, if you want to do a report, probably we should talk about when we want to do it when.

D

We're talking about what we're going to do, because, depending on how much we want to do, we might be.

D

Ready by july 11th we have one meeting to prepare for it. Sometimes we want to well what I was going.

D

To say what about that more than I can shoot, I guess right yeah. So what I'm going to say is.

A

Effie, since I think you've got a lot going uh and I'd be happy to talk with you a little bit.

A

uh Is there any, as I think we should do, that and fortunate kind of solutions and anything else that.

A

Should go that we think we should put on that just to give him an update, I would think the council.

G

Would be really interested in the climate action plan discussions that have that the committee has.

G

Been having the subcommittee's been having, because that has been a priority for the council and.

G

So I think it would be important, and by that date we will have already adopted the budget which.

G

Means we've adopted the funding for the climate action plan because the adoption happens june. The.

G

6Th so so then it would be really good timing for the committee to go or for the council to sit back.

G

And say: oh, so this is what they're doing this is the direction we're going. We know when that.

G

Funding is going to be allocated then I would say effie. I think, with that slideshow that was put on.

A

Maybe put one or two on as part of the community engagement that you could tell whatever we've come.

A

On with the closeness climate solutions, because you have both information, I would say we're ready.

A

To go pretty much well, we can talk at the june meeting about that. You could do a quick drive run.

A

Through the june meeting and uh and we could add or subtract, how does that sound? That sounds good.

I

And I think the subcommittee jointly presented that powerpoint last time, so you can do something.

D

It sounds like you want to go on for the july 11th meeting. I can tell the clerk and the city manager.

D

That july 11th meeting, if not they'll, tell us why don't you wait? We have this crazy agenda also.

D

Been but that should work, usually that's plenty of notice and then we'll have to get something.

D

Real, rather than a placeholder, but something it doesn't have to be the whole presentation just.

D

We're definitely going to come and talk about these things on july, 11th, right.

G

And I don't want anyone to be nervous about presenting from the committee to the council.

G

And we've had one committee already present to us twice this year because they were kind of newly.

G

Established from blue room into a new committee and the cemetery committees come back twice.

G

With presentations and they were just informative presentations, they were really helpful, though.

G

For us to know what they were doing and the status of their work.

A

So, to conclude, we will we'll shoot for the july meeting. We'll do both fourth reports together.

A

And uh whatever and we can do a dry run and add it to and just have a simple page print out at that.

I

Water fountains, I have one item I was going to bring up so in dealing with.

B

Kids, sports- I am coaching so I'm at all these different playgrounds and one thing I noticed.

B

Was many of the playgrounds? Don't have water fountains? So I'm kind of asking the group.

B

And maybe someone in the corner there who maybe specifically deals with water, is there any reason.

B

That they're missing so like just to continue that point at planes. You know kids play all day.

B

Saturday, the other day, some kid went to go, fill up a water bottle and I don't have one so they had to.

B

Go buy a plastic gatorade bottle instead, so, as we think about sustainability and that sort of stuff.

B

And hydration for the kids: um is there any context as to why a lot don't have? I don't want to take.

J

Credit for that, but we're the ones that are there, but I was the one that said: why don't we have.

B

Water bottle fountains, so we started putting them in here, yeah great. We have them at um larry field.

B

We have them at the tennis courts, batman, ford tree island. So while we have this, it's a it's a nice.

B

Fountain, that has both you can put the bottle in and it has a drinking fountain as well. We want to.

B

Put them in the market square, we want to put them in the other fields. It all is a matter of when.

B

These places get um an upgrade so when it comes around to do that, so we've got. I think the next.

B

One is going in your prescott park somewhere, so we we're just sort of you know getting in. We could.

B

You know, I suppose, get more aggressive um about it, but.

B

The other thing is some places: don't actually don't have the water service.

B

To them so we're going to put that in as well yeah. That sounds great I'll talk to.

B

Our grounds, people about that and.

B

Maybe get them in some spots: yeah, it's like planes come to mind just because that seems like it's not.

B

Due for an upgrade for a while- and it seems like a pretty good traffic area, so that'd be the only.

B

Like that'd be well, and what we do is we we tack things on the existing projects, so the uh and what.

B

Comes to mind right now is the skate park, which is just gonna, be across the street or whatever.

B

You just add to the contractor: if they're gonna put one in over there, it's like okay, you're gonna, put them in here as well.

B

We have the model and.

B

These things that you can shut off during the.

C

Winter time oh yeah, we shut them off in the dreams planes. They have the little concessions right.

A

The water's there yeah yeah they most likely have water and it could be a simple matter of just just.

H

Putting on the other side of the wall yeah, depending on where the water line is yeah.

H

It could be very simple yeah, just like that very cool. Do you know, there's a discussions.

B

With the schools to do something at their playgrounds as well, because, like a lot of the sports, also participate there. And I know that's a different kind of.

B

Ownership model- um I know the school's been putting in the inside now yeah. We practice at.

B

New franklin a couple times: yeah um yeah, you know the the new ball field at public court. You know.

B

Backside of public works yeah, those are great, got one there. um The downside of that one is.

B

When I go turn on every now and then it's out in the middle of nowhere.

B

So it takes a while to get fresh water to that one it'll get more use. I mean over time and and now.

B

Perfect good, I know there's a plan, so I want to hear that thanks.

C

Don't they let you play and ride they're not allowed right.

B

Except for us, how do they like selling plastic bottles, because isn't that they're.

E

The there's the plastic band right so can they technically not sell those.

E

With the ordinance did you say, darla yeah, it didn't specifically save single-use water bottles.

F

Oh, it should not explicitly listed always more work to be done.

F

So um since the portsmouth energy advisory committee was spawned from this committee,.

F

And I'm still serving as your representative on that I didn't know if it would be helpful to give.

F

A very quick update on the group energy advisory committee so just to um jump off what effie was.

F

Updating well so um right now we're really in this stage of sort of educating and stakeholder.

F

Building and hear point for before about climate solutions wanting to engage with the community on.

F

The climate action plan- um portsmouth smart growth- is um helping us host we're sort of.

F

Co-Hosting this event at the end of june- and this is just part of sort of our education process-.

F

So that the community understands the benefits of community power, once we actually hit go and.

F

So that again is going to be at the end of june, at 3s art space, um very exciting you'll, probably get.

F

An insert in your water bill in the next few weeks, which outlines again it's something.

F

That all of our residents read hopefully and receive so there's a quick flyer in there about.

F

Sort of what is community power community power is coming to you, um some of the benefits this.

F

Event is listed on there. We've made it really easy for residents to if they have the ability.

F

And they're comfortable, they can go to the city site and get information on this event, we've also.

F

Gone live with an faq on the community on the city site on community power. So if residents.

F

Have questions about well, how does this work and are there risks to it and et cetera, et cetera,.

F

So that should be live now on the city site. If you want to go check that out very very basic faqs.

F

So this is all again like I mentioned we're, starting to do some education and engagement and.

F

This is all building towards. You know, eventually building what is called. I think, formerly the.

F

Electric aggregation plan- um and this is something that cpcnh- which we are now part of- that coalition.

F

The city is kevin. Charette, I think, is our formerly I don't know his title, but the board.

F

Representative from the city of portsmouth, on the cpcnh with peter rice alternate alternate right.

F

So there's been a lot of really positive and forward movement on community power. So that's the.

F

The cracks of the update that I wanted to give this committee did you have anything that you.

F

Want to add, it was great. I think that the earliest that we're looking at joining would be not this.

G

Not this round, but it would be next year so um so I think that earliest would be like july of 2023.

G

Is what we're thinking, um and that mean, but we have to get everything together.

G

Before then, in order to do that, which is a quite a process and the and the coalition.

D

Still has to get everything together to get started so that you couldn't even.

D

Become a you, couldn't even get community power in your community until the coalition gets it gets. It.

D

Started which remember the date, I think the the best go live date for coalition is april. 2023.

H

Well, our target date for getting all of our paperwork and everything in and then we.

G

We would join it, but we wouldn't be part of it. It would take. It takes a while. Then.

G

Before you're included in the process, so so um the the initial cities that are kind of.

G

Being the pioneers in the program are trying to get everything together now for this year,.

G

But then the earliest they go live is april. So for us that would be what april 2024.

G

Likely is is what we're thinking there could be like a six month. There's like these six.

F

Chunks could be october, you can't start it up anytime. You want right, yeah, yeah,.

F

So and the puc has to actually approve our electric aggregation plan, so I think we're kind of.

F

Beholden to falling in line with the pvc: no, it's right! It's because they said that they have to set.

G

Their rates at certain times of the year, so they only accept people in at certain times of the year.

G

So if we get all of our submission in by next summer, then it will be when they allow us to join.

G

Yeah, but being on the coalition just having a seat at that table.

D

Helps us be educated about how it's working learn about how the other communities are doing and.

D

Not be the first, you know the first ones to dive in so it's kind of nice to watch how it goes.

D

But still be participant actively. Yes, you've definitely pilfered a lot of language about.

F

How we talk about community power from the current coalition members, which we are now part of as well.

F

um And I think effie you are asking so I know it's um julia griffin from hanover she's, a town manager.

F

She um she will be there. Henry herndon will be speaking um sam evans brown, great from clean.

F

Energy new hampshire and then hoping that some of the other, maybe local. What's that bellow too, I.

F

Don't think he's on the panel, but I'm hoping that he'll he'll be there and we're hoping from other.

F

uh Local town areas, those from exeter and rye that have also been part of this process, will.

F

Be there to maybe answer questions or ask their own questions and be part of the crowd right, yeah.

J

I just had a question um since the city, as a city has certain windows, where we're able to opt in.

J

Does that then cascade down to individual citizens that want to opt in once, we've done it as a city.

J

Like there's a open, enrollment time once a year that you can do it and after that you have to wait.

J

Till the next year, or can you go in any moment that you want or is that to be determined again.

J

That's a good question you're automatically in as a resident unless you you're up now, you can opt.

D

Out you're automatically in as a resident, if your choice is the power, the standard power provider.

D

But if you have your own like, if you decided you bought from another pro broker, because it's you.

D

Know more advantageous, or you want more renewable right now, like you, can do that with a broker.

D

If you're doing that, then you do have to opt in, but I'm not sure about the dates for.

D

That so you either auto. Everybody automatically goes in if they're, just using eversource power.

D

Or you have to opt in if you're not and then once you're in then there's going to be choices within.

D

The portsmouth community power of different kinds of power you can choose from so you can have like.

D

A the least expensive option that may not have as much renewable or the most renewable and maybe.

D

Something in between and those have different pricing and that's a big part of what the.

D

Coalition does is, goes out and finds all that and bundles it, and then I think, a lot of communities.

D

May be similar, but it'll be portsmouth community power that you're getting it from.

E

And you'll get your choices there, but I don't know how they will allow you to switch. If it's.

D

Every month you get to do it or I think only the buy-in is the yeah, but I would I mean I'm probably.

F

Speaking out of school here but or that's even the same- I don't know but anyway, because I'm mixing up.

F

um But I would think there would probably be it'd be fairly restrictive, because the whole.

F

Point is that the more people you have in the community power system, the better.

F

Rates, the more competitive you can be. So I wonder that's a great question to ask: is.

F

If you decide to opt out, how long do you have to wait before you could potentially opt back in no.

E

I am one of those people um getting it you're, a third party provider. Can you hear the switch as.

D

Soon as it's available or do you have to wait, I don't know that's a good question. Yeah, that's a.

F

Really good one: okay yeah! Well, if you come on the 29th, maybe we can get that answered.

F

Okay, well it'll be recorded too so.

F

Yeah, I think, is that the 28th, the 29th 29th, they have a weird date list. They have the date listed.

G

Wrong but in the narrative it says the 29th okay, so it's the 29th where, where is it listed in.

B

Their website on their website portsmouth smart, smart growth. Yes, I might have misspoken hold on.

E

I might be wrong as well. I had it in my calendar as the 29th and on their page um under events.

G

They have it listed wednesday june 28th with wednesday's actually the 29th. And then, if you.

G

Look at the narrative, it says on the 29th, so all right, so I think it's just a so I'll move that to.

B

The 29th, it should be the 29th wednesday, the 29th thank you for coming. We will absolutely make sure.

F

That that's fixed, thank you for catching that and then we'll check the the city site as well. Okay,.

J

I actually think made 20 and maybe uh okay.

B

All right, any other topics.

C

C

Some really good ideas on water efficiency, so.

B

Future media- maybe we should talk about that, a bit more. That would be great yeah. I.

B

Can send it out um ahead of next meeting? Maybe we can, if you don't know, if you're going to be.

B

Here then yeah, um maybe we can make that one of the agenda items. That's my banana.

B

All right with that, we are.

B

Adjourned, so we can stop recording and we'll do the um the takeaway after that right.

C

Yep, yes, sorry and just kind of for uh notes.

B

Next month, eco club facilitating and then counselor denton is recording.

B

Schedule's up to date, very good um go around. What is your takeaway from tonight's meeting.

B

We're going to switch directions this way and go to bert.