City of Portsmouth, New Hampshire Trees & Greenery Committee, 9 Nov 2022

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11.9.2022 Trees & Public Greenery Committee

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Wednesday november 9th two eating at the trees were mainly aged water.

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uh Acceptance of the minutes of the october meeting.

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Promotion 37 minutes.

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uh Can you remove a request? 20 georges terrace was 20 george's terrorists.

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Yeah I moved to remove okay um yeah any discussion.

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Sound all in favor, uh south street kamasi street island.

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That tree, it's about second yeah, a few months several years ago, we.

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Did prove that one quite a bit, I'm just trying to try to get a little more yeah.

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We'll have seconded any discussion. Would this be a good place for a.

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400 tree absolutely right. Okay, I would anticipate we would yeah.

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When you're doing something to realign that.

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Wasn't received well, but wasn't it wasn't? It wasn't part of the concern about the three.

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um Maybe so that's an opportunity for us to revisit them. I don't. I think it was more just things. Change.

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The section um so fountain rosenwald is a long time employed in the city and.

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um Active veteran community in baseball and kids, baseball and stuff one day I was talking with him.

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He thought that he started red bud would be the perfect tree to replace that credit application.

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So I always thought it'd be nice, but when we said that we would consider.

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If we get used to remember upon the trees that are coming in that industry,.

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I've already mentioned that to my office, one.

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He has a little bit: redbuds called dead buds for wind, uh so everyone.

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Look at that we've got, you know going on in our place and you just get some.

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Time back every year, but not want to be on the other side of the building.

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Okay, we can definitely put one in somewhere. Maybe that isn't the.

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Hottest, you know they're a subset of you- know: center building temperature around here. Okay,.

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We have an emotions.

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12.99 islington street.

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And so this tree is going to be it's kind of like the corner of a lot that they're building.

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Independent of whatever they're doing with the development of that site, uh ashtrays and and.

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If it was if it stays the city, it wouldn't what two bucks in the treatment, um so we talked last.

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Week about uh the ashtria and richards being invested with and we're logical because are.

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There other trades and importance of benefits and so forth. Yeah we've had some other issues, broad.

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From the street that's running from south street of south street uh and.

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Yeah there's some over in there um were infected. uh Basically, you know you're looking at how much.

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How much infection you can already see from the insect damage and judging how much is the energy.

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Whether it's worth treating it or not, okay, so we're recommending time when they're getting.

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Leap out in this spring, uh they discovered that kind of decision based on how much the accounts.

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Are getting so, are we treating any trees in town, yet we have treated some in the state. Child has.

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Treated some trees and worked with chuck and they don't need some trees already a year ago.

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um I don't know the list of those we paid for the.

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Treatment of a pile of truck you know, went around the trees on those trees.

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So we're looking at recommending to towns to really look at the tree itself. Yeah.

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And see whether this is something you're willing to pay, for you know you're going to be paid for it. You know every year, every two years, whatever else.

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um Having it done privately, prices are, you know, seven to ten bucks per inch. So it's not.

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Cost prohibited, but you know it's constantly. uh We went around and treated a bunch of trees. We.

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Actually bought injection guns for communities license to do the injections because they're not.

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um So we had the ability to for him to use our equipment, the equipment, five thousand dollars.

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um But we bought the equipment for communities to be able to use against.

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Yeah green national y dash will be done um just you know if you're not familiar with it,.

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Just you know, drive around bottom canterbury conquered um and basically what's happening.

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Is probably just lose some foliage sprout out the bottom, it's still alive, but you know it's.

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Not as crazy as it was in the past at some point once they die, the trees fail and they fall apart.

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uh Ashes, don't stay standing, you know dead off of the woods. I know we cut dozens village.

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I don't know why that's the same. That's a loss! Really. I think it's an overlooked tree.

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There's a lot of bar next to it. Yeah.

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um And I already have a new parking lot. Oh definitely.

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We didn't have to look for the tag you just kind of slow down. Yeah.

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Yeah we've done some work in pearland in the past, but on there.

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Before this came forward years ago, and there's no reason why we that work didn't get done and.

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I can't recall it's actually a broken lemon of the three trees, but it's entangled yeah in the other.

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Branches, thankfully, so this will be another 400 plant yeah. That could be a great spot right. There.

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Is a motion to move send by aj uh all in favor, okay, move.

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So it's still there, it's still there, but it's funny too to remember.

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That's the black cherry yeah, you do another inspection. Did you see his follow-up treatment.

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Okay, so he did further inspection reporting. The report beside the trees will be removed available.

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Okay, it takes us two and item number three.

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Oh sorry, okay, oh I see.

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um [music] 360 on michigan street and pat hadn't mentioned this to me and um it's a it's.

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Right on the property line in the area, where almost even seen it and it's a beautiful red.

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Oak and it's surrounded by the bay again. But it's thriving and um I sent a email to.

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Michael gray, I know all kinds of property: it's a.

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Making sure that everybody's protected and um he wrote back and said that he didn't disagree.

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Without being honest property, but is he selling it to somebody else? It's not the one developing. It.

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And said eric weinberg representing this engineer, he wrote to eric and he came up at um and I.

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Spoke to peter steve yesterday, the chair of the technical advisory committee and I came up with.

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The tech meeting eric can probably protect me uh eric weiner objection. Last night said that it was.

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And he was synthetic to trying to take care of them because, yes, that's true, it does affect the.

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Circulation, the development on the side, what they're proposing to do um but yeah.

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They'll probably have to make some other changes to their site to decide again so.

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This is a content site approval yeah, that's part of that. It's not a city tree. You know.

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It does complicate their sight by keeping it there, but I I think trucks are gonna, have.

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Won't be able to make it around the back, even if that tree wasn't removed. So it's.

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It makes a little bit more difficult, but they're already doing a difficult thing.

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So that's the that tree right. There is what we're talking about yeah.

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It's right there yeah, because they want you to really see it can really see it now, with.

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All the ways off but yeah and um I'm honestly appropriate for us to um send a letter to the.

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The planning board attack just indicating how this committee's interest in documentary and.

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Urging whatever could be done to protect you and we don't have jurisdiction on it, but.

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So that in the plans form a little bump out for it? Yes, yes,.

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I have a pleasure here.

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Yeah and that required, I think eric indicated it requires some reconfiguration on the on the.

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Driveways and uh so again this is a drive through no, it's not a drive through to drive around drive.

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Around delivery trucks and trash pickup, but it's it's very paradise here, but they have problems.

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Coming around the back of the building right here, where they're showing the truck hitting and retaining wall acronym in reality, I don't think any vehicle is going to make it around back.

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I think I'm actually gonna have to back in and back out yeah. Well, they have the.

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Overhang here, so they but that's all being rubbed off in the dining area. Okay,.

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The htc one of the commissioners requested it the other night that they create more of.

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A screen back there, in addition to the oak um or the benefit of the neighbors.

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I you know personally it's a beautiful tree. However, this site has been languishing for.

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Years and anything we can do to help them be redeveloped, and then they can put a better.

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Screening system in further providing property owners that can utilize it. I would personally.

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I'd vote to take it down to let them do it just because um it hasn't been a really viable space.

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For somebody to develop- and I think it's the best interest in the city to move forward.

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Unlocking that property, so that somebody can be something good with it.

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Sustainable and that eventually, additional green recently planted um it's already a sparse area.

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In terms of paintings on the site, so that's my personal opinion, but I.

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Haven't seen the sites that we developed a positive manner, but if that tree can be.

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Observed consistent with so, the developers are interested in developing a positive advantage.

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And if we can add to them I'd like to add my voice to a thing, you can see that they save them. Well, it.

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Came out attack showing they were going to save it right. So I think that was just a work session.

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um The between committee.

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I am with the site and the judges that.

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um Possible and practical than the 3d reserved I'll make that motion definition.

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Gas station side is michael b's site, so why are we talking about.

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Just because it's it's a significant tree and we've had interest expressed in it and.

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um As before, sitting board and um we're just saying if it can be saved, we're adding our.

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Voices to it. So if I'm on the planning board on attack- and it comes up and uncommitting things.

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To be inappropriate to represent so it's pretty common that it's pretty common, that these types.

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Of things come before us out of the technical advisory committee uh for our opinion, if you.

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Recall the property on the corner of the deer, and I think what came before us last and last time.

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Or two times ago, so it is, it is something that the site or it's sent to us periodically.

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So we're not learning um in discussion.

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um What was the motion to encourage our support to keep that dream.

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About realizing or we're suggesting or encouraging if they keep it, but not until you can't tell.

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You, where is it yeah? The work section work section was yesterday so it'll be.

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Another month when they have their company is peter, then.

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Okay, that's all in favor of the motion. Our opposed proposes peter okay, it's the motion.

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Carries I used when peter was um here, you can see in the aerials upon buddha empire.

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And um right there and that came before us several years ago, when peter was suggesting.

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Removal of vegetation around the monument- and uh we had some controversial some concerned about.

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It economies of public and city has since removed that education. I think it was great.

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And yeah my job, that the restoration of the monument was uh ages of our member.

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Of the right chair, which is uh and who um yesterday that was done, but it was perfect.

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Monument had suffered over the years and I think the efforts to control you on a committee or.

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Mr nancy, okay, so anyway, um congratulations.

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Just so just so, the committee is aware of the next section of islington uh has been bid and.

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Has been awarded so from dover street to I believe formula, um and it includes um work.

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In cooper park, including the access path in the center, so you can go straight in and wrap.

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Around some of these historic signage, so that's going to move forward, so it should be. We should.

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See improvements relative to the wall railing defense, it's going to be reset. um Oh.

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Okay, we have uh updates from city average maxwell greater, but maxwell's.

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um Of course, somewhere today, uh maybe this week and.

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We've been working with aj to to ensure that 200 for residents to plant and I believe max.

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Is ordered the 200 for mercedes planting and we're looking at once, we get a firm date out.

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Of the delivery uh doing it that weekend, or probably the first or second week of april.

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Distribution aj. You mentioned something about the number of threes that you were ordering a email.

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Listen to you guys, the other day, we're working parole agree with your best. It must be one of.

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Our wholesalers so she's going to bring the trees in against her account peter's going to pay that.

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um But we had to go, and you know in the reorder sort of to maximize that, make it right. Max's.

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Second day on the job, uh so it went through the list again because some of those are available.

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So species that we are confirmed for right now, we just got to decide whether we're going to.

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Trim this list out right now uh is one of the mlike years, so it's grantifolia, that's.

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Very accurate for that one we've got 50 of those uh 50 uh american horn beams.

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uh 50 sweet gums, so the first two are native to here becomes native self up here. So we're.

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Gonna maybe think ahead on those kind of things um we've got 42 black gums available, uh so two below.

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Or black country for folks so again, big tree uh we've got some uh white oak trees, so native.

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Regular orcas uh alpha white oaks, we've also got some spawn pointed which is smaller, more compacted.

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Proper sort of city uh you know tree, we put them in all the place uh and we actually did.

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Secure uh some 50s we're fighting for those so right now we've got 289 trees.

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um So my email to you was, we had planned on. You know 225 to 250 and just happened. We want to cut.

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Let's list down: what do you want to afford? um We want to have more trees and cut back on the.

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Number of big trees for mexican plant or just put in more trees, and just say we put in 200.. I I like.

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Getting flexibility, you know that you're going to get 10 industry is going to be, you know, dropped.

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Off the truck somebody's going to drop into the back of account before they even leave messages.

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um But one thing that did come up um talking about staff: it's making sure we do a good outreach to.

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Low moderate from marriage to the city, um so I was, I was planning on reaching out to some.

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Of the um property owners down on southern city, uh the patriots um park and foreign.

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As well as housing authority, so so, when I applied for my treat on this thing, could.

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How are we going to select who gets these trees if we go first come first serve, but.

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Max was concerned that 200 trees is a lot we're running out of spaces in the city to plant trees.

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um So I, when we, what we anticipate is expanding the grant program.

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um In that necessary plant on private property and maintain them for years before, we give them.

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Up so that, obviously we want to put them in areas that benefit the public, um but so that's that's.

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You know so we're just trying to open our eyes in terms of potential areas that we could have been.

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Underserved that target need so could they get the notice week? The next two weeks ahead of everybody.

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Else, I I think we could reach out and do it at an advanced um just to get a soft release. Yeah just.

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Give them you know, give those guys on yeah. You know on you know on something that you know yep.

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I was, I don't know we. I haven't talked about yeah at this point. Yes, you know unless you know.

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We have extra, some people say they want more, but for now I assume you know one per camera.

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Can you like, when you start to develop a timeline.

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Timeline I mean there's been because I've seen a lot around um different sorts of pillars of the.

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400, but I thought you know it'd be nice that we could start the message as well. So I definitely.

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Fall down, yeah 7, 8 76 court has um started to do that. So that's uh it's something that moving.

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Forward but we will make sure the committee is notified, yes and anything that dick and I can do.

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um Got its name from the fact that it was a native tree that.

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The winter months, but in the spring, when that tree.

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Was generally in the womb, they sort of got the name service very much.

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uh Anything else under the um 400. we are going to be planting uh something down at what.

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Was mentioned so that we had a bigger event for that originally, there was going to be one of the.

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Queen planted down there, so I was working on that project uh after she passed that whole event was.

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President planting project, so if you're familiar with the coolidge property.

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And that kind of stuff to be an event down there as part of the performance.

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So it keeps it posted to that there'll, be politics.

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So eric you must be here for some reason, if you were a call, we were supposed to report back and.

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I apologize for not getting on the agenda I have been predisposed um or in this post.

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This tree was requested to be removed. We asked eric to review it from a pedestrian and.

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Traffic site distance, uh consideration of other considerations and characters here to report back.

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Goodness so I took a ride out there and it was parked in their driveway and looking out both ways.

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And seeing you know how much that really limits sight lines it doesn't. You can always see traffic.

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On south street, on one side of the tree or another tree is not big enough to block the entire view.

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Of a car on companies it does, if it wind up just right, it can block a pedestrian on the sidewalk. So.

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It's fossil the car back in around may temporarily not see a pedestrian. I would think a pedestrian to.

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See a car and they're backing into their path. It's done. You know it's just as far back as that. Next.

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Tree behind the white fence- and so you know if that tree isn't an issue. I don't see why this tree.

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I don't I mean I'm all in favorite safety and I don't wanna precludes uh sign lines.

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But I don't think that tree is really that great an impact on the sidelines so.

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A little bit for pedestrians, but you can see vehicles on either side of it when you're.

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Coming in around that environment, so I wouldn't justifying removing a time on a safety basis.

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So I'm not sure whether that requires a motion to table the request.

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But you know, since it wasn't um only noticed on the agenda, whether that's appropriate or.

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Whether we should notice it on the agenda and just formally include it next time.

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No, I can't remember what the motion was the table to the other important matter right.

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And my reaction was, if you ever dream, he sent that far back from the road that mean that whenever.

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We get her, we traveled as a train that far back from the road would say yeah it's got to be done.

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The traffic is well, I I just. I wasn't convinced that it was necessary addiction.

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So we, mr chair, we had we had acknowledged the potential or safety concern or that there was.

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A safety concern a potential safety issues there we asked eric to review it and he did the results.

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Were not supportive of the of their position as a vacation, so I would either be able to request now.

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Or we put it on the agenda for next time and table it formally. At that point,.

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All in favor thank you for that timely turn around on that. Yes, business.

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Signing new business that is max, I plugged or because I see these trees coming down.

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Relatively quickly proved, you know, constitution avenue, severino, not that island out yesterday.

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um Nasa's stretched in at the moment uh we're down. You know we never replaced his position yet.

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So he's you know, he took a double shot because he's doing truck driver in his old job at the same time, so he's extremely busy um and he's back on him.

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I would just like to say thank you for the um explanations on the tree. Removal requests.

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Explicitly it's just very helpful yeah that matched the initiative yeah.

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Thank you max. We wasn't going to be here. I did not know he wasn't going to be here.

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You got to the right person, yes ron peter.

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When it says aside, uh this is a this is finished and we, my garden club, uh was able to label the.

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Five trees in the north sumter um that had been talked about, so we did two ash, but they were.

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Big and mighty looking and then we did maples, uh which I think will be a nice uh comparison. People.

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Yeah there's uh so so the silver is very.

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Powerful uh we have like yours, no, no, no, no well. Actually, it was really kind of funny because they.

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Sent these aluminum like seven inch nails, and I bet five of them. You know I don't know yeah so.

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I I don't know what um we'll have to revisit that situation so they're up, so we feel good about that.

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Then uh we're going to move on to another area in the city uh chuck, and I had already talked about.

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Ways of moving around and maybe doing another spot, but not at a place. That's sound! It's visible.

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Labeled trees for people to enjoy, um and then I also wanted to say that I thought the.

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um Pruning of the cemetery that came in front of us on pleasant street.

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I don't know if anybody else has seen it dick and I went by and looks, looks good.

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I think it was a good compromise mission accomplished. Did you yeah it opens it up? It's.

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Not a secret as you like, uh but um you do get to see and it's inviting and it kind of draws you in.

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uh To the cemetery versus before so I I that works well, cemetery committee has gone in is.

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Yeah well just brought your eyes a mausoleum, a mountain in the bathroom yeah yeah, so.

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Good compromise um eric reminded me that this committee does get.

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Involved with hedges along sidewalks and obstructions for uh site distances, there.

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Is a hedge on the corner of broad and south street hanson's house.

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Historically, it's been a nice big edge, but it does obscure the corner coming up broad street.

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Towards south, um so we will be reaching out to them to see if we can knock the warner off.

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Well, this committee gets involved in public works as well.

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um Because the corner of south and lafayette there's many intersections.

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Yes, it, I don't think it. It starts with a reaching out to the the property owners.

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um Safety um weighing on it as well and then technically, I believe we have the.

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Right to go in and come back as it's just! This well received my residence so.

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But if it is on city property, then it's appropriate to come to you guys.

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Thank you all very much. Thank you. Thank you.