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Regular City Council Meeting 9-09-2020
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Good
morning,
welcome
to
the
september
9
2020,
ponte
gorda
city
council
meeting.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
all
council
members
and
city
officials
are
present
or
in
the
building,
we'll
begin
by
standing
for
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
I
mean
that
invocation
followed
by
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
We
will
then
read
one
proclamation
followed
by
a
short
ceremony,
so.
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We
thank
you,
father
for
the
men
and
women
in
our
military
that
have
served
and
are
serving
to
protect
our
freedoms.
Thank
you,
father
for
our
first
responders,
who
keep
us
safe
on
the
home
front,
each
and
every
day,
father.
We
ask
that
you
bless
each
family
that
is
represented
here
today
and
let
the
decisions
that
are
made
here
today
be
pleasing
to
you
and
to
the
people
of
puente
gorda
psalm,
33
12
blessed
is
the
nation
whose
god
is
the
lord
and
all
god's
people
said.
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Whereas
19
years
ago,
on
september,
11
2001
america
was
suddenly
and
brutally
attacked
by
terrorists
and
thousands
of
innocent
americans
were
killed
and
injured
as
a
result
of
these
attacks,
including
the
passengers
and
crew
of
four
aircraft
workers
in
the
world
trade
center
and
in
the
pentagon,
rescue
workers
and
bystanders,
and
whereas
in
the
spirit
that
moved
rescue
workers
and
firefighters,
to
charge
into
darkness
and
danger.
That
september
morning,
our
nation
was
united
to
stand
strong
and
show
its
resilience
in
the
face
of
tragedy.
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Now,
therefore,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda
florida
does
hereby
proclaim
september
11
2020
as
a
day
of
remembrance
to
honor
those
no
longer
with
us
to
give,
thanks
to
our
first
responders
for
all
that
they
have
done
and
continue
to
do
and
to
rededicate
ourselves
to
the
ideals
that
define
our
country
and
unite
us
as
one
past
and
duly
adopted
in
regular
session.
This
ninth
day
of
september
2020
signed
nancy
peraffke
mayor
and
accepting
is
our
own
carlo
gargiulo.
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The
banners
that
are
up
here
today
represent
the
first
responders
that
died
at
the
world
trade
center
in
the
very
front
here
on
the
bottom
is
the
police
department,
the
city
of
new
york,
who
lost
23
members,
the
one
on
its
left,
the
port
authority,
police
of
new
york
and
new
jersey?
They
lost
37
members.
D
It's
a
ceremonial
bell.
The
fire
department
rings
a
bell.
Whenever
we
lose
someone
in
the
line
of
duty
today,
he
will
ring
the
bell
three
times
for
the
three
thousand
americans
that
passed
away
due
to
9
11
and
the
countless
others
that
have
died
from
cancer,
lung
disease
and
other
illnesses
attributed
to
9
11.
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Now,
therefore,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda
florida
does
hereby
pro
express
their
appreciation
to
these
valued
employees
for
their
hard
work
and
dedication
and
extends
their
best
wishes
for
a
long,
happy
and
productive
retirement
past
and
duly
adopted
in
regular
session.
This
ninth
day
of
september
2020
city
of
pentacore
florida
signed
nancy
pratke
mayor
accepting
is
howard
kunick,
our
city,
one
of
our
city,.
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K
I
Limited
number
of
folks,
within
their
particular
departments
or
divisions,
shelly,
barber,
billing
and
collections.
She
handled
a
lot
of
the
customer
complaints
and
questions
inquiries.
Coming
in
from
the
water
and
sewer
billing,
we
received
numerous
numerous
emails
from
customers
thanking
her
for
her
dedicated
work.
I
I
You
might
have
seen
him
on
a
backhoe
or
truck
bob
craig
right
away-
maintenance
supervisor-
oh
god
been
in
here
forever
and
he
handled
all
the
right-of-way
crew
there
for
all
those
years,
linda
fabian
was
in
the
administrative
and
when
you
picked
up
the
phone
and
you
called
regarding
any
sanitation
or
public
works
issues,
you
probably
got
linda
all
those
years.
She
handled
a
great
job
in
funneling
out
to
get
all
the
work
done
to
the
right
person.
I
Tom
jackson,
the
ro
plant
tom
menaro
tominaro
spent
days
working
on
that
project
and
it
came
to
fruition
and
becky
reid
becky,
actually
started
in
police
and
came
over
to
billing
and
collections
and
another
one,
those
persons
who
handled
a
lot
of
the
customer
inquiries
as
they
came
in.
So
thank
you
all
for
all
those
years
of
service,
and
you
know
we
couldn't
do
it
in
here,
but
at
least
you
were
recognized
in
your
particular
departments
and
divisions.
E
L
M
L
In
a
mirror,
I'd
also
like
to
extend
an
additional
thank
you
to
the
city
clerk's
office
for
getting
the
proclamations
complete.
It's
easy
to
pick
up
the
phone
when
someone
on
the
other
end
is
responsive
and
can
make
that
happen.
So
thank
you,
city,
cam
public
comment.
The
first
one
would
be
regarding
permits
that
you
have
later
on
the
agenda
from
sally
meer.
With
my
promotions
incorporated.
L
My
name
is
sally
meer
and
I
own
my
promotions
craft
show
company.
I
cannot
understand
that
we
cannot
receive
the
permission
to
have
a
craft
show
in
november
and
january
we're
at
the
marketplace
where
we
have
lots
of
room
to
separate
when
we
set
up.
We
have
tents
to
protect
the
vendors,
we
have
mask
and
hand
sanitizers
separations
can
be
set
up
for
customers.
Farmers
markets
are
going
on
in
flea
markets
as
well.
L
My
vendors
need
to
work
also
and
have
no
opportunity
to
do
so.
They
are
prepared
all
summer
without
income
and
for
many
of
the
of
them
it
is
their
livelihood
markets
have
none
of
the
protection
we
have,
and
I
doubt
there
will
be
lots
of
people
coming
to
any
event.
Anyway,
people
in
general
are
too
scared,
but
maybe
a
few
will
come.
They
are
also
wearing
their
mask
going
to
the
stores.
What
is
the
difference?
If
we
cannot
do
it?
The
same
should
happen
to
all
farmers,
markets
and
flea
markets.
L
L
L
The
next
we
have
is
from
tim
layton
hello,
since
I'm
not
sure
how
this
works
and
every
word
of
my
email
may
be
eating
up
a
three
minute
limit
I'll,
say
hello
to
all
my
wonderful
neighbors
who
were
able
to
attend
in
person
thank
the
council
and
city
staff
for
their
efforts
day
in
and
day
out
and
launch
directly
into
my
comments.
We
purchased
our
home
at
124
berry
street
in
2004.
L
L
We
moved
into
a
house
that
is
now
approaching
100
years
old
and
part
of
the
hook
that
sold
us
was
the
seller's
photo
of
historic,
puna
gorda,
which
very
much
revolved
around
the
harbor.
It
was
a
water
town.
Originally
it
was
a
water
town
when
we
bought
in,
and
I
think
it
will
always
be
a
place
that
is
designed
around
and
focused
on
the
water.
So
to
me,
the
idea
that
we
would
even
consider
removing
the
visual
elements
of
boots
is
just
a
hard
thing
to
understand.
L
I
love
the
boots
and
I
think
they
add
greatly
to
the
character
of
punta
gorda.
Aside
from
the
intangibles
of
character
and
history,
I
find
it
somewhat
of
a
raw
deal
that
property
rights
can
be
taken
away.
Even
the
contemplation
of
the
removal
of
a
right
that
exists
and
has
existed
forever
seems
very
challenging
to
my
mindset.
L
I
went
looking
for
a
waterfront
home
expressly
for
boating,
fell
in
love
with
one
not
on
the
water
and
made
a
decision
to
buy
it
because
I
reasoned
I
can
just
pull
the
boat
to
the
ramp
in
five
minutes.
No
big
deal
to
suggest
that
I
have
to
now
rent
storage
at
my
expense,
where
the
boat
will
be
far
less
secure
and
add
the
extra
step
of
driving
there
and
getting
the
boat
before
I
can
go
to
the
ramp
is
a
fairly
significant
change
in
my
lifestyle,
not
a
change.
I
welcome.
L
I
wish
I
could
be
at
the
meeting
at
9
00
a.m
on
a
work
day,
because
I'm
sure
that
other
property
owners
will
present
an
argument
for
a
position
different
than
my
own
and
I'd
love.
To
hear
that
argument,
I'm
not
sure
where
the
problem
exists.
I
don't
see
a
fleet
of
derelict
boats
in
people's
yards
all
over
town
is
that
there
and
I'm
just
missing
it.
Is
there
an
actual
problem
with
the
boats
that
I
haven't
seen
in
16
years?
Maybe
it
is
because
I
love
the
boats.
L
I
suppose,
if
I
dislike
the
sight
of
dogs,
I'd
have
a
problem
when
people
walk
their
pets,
but
I
love
dogs
too.
I
don't
have
much
comment
regarding
the
rvs,
except
that
I
thought
they
already
had
to
be
in
the
backyard.
So
if
they're
in
the
backyard,
I'm
not
sure
to
see
the
problem
either,
maybe
we
should
require
a
visual
buffer,
such
as
a
privacy
fence
or
hedge
for
rv
barking.
L
L
Your
information-
yes,
thank
you,
frederick,
fox
iii,
dmd.
Please
find
an
attached
word
document,
which
should
be
read
to
the
city
council
meeting
regarding
the
non-sro
trailer
regulations.
Send
me
a
response
confirming
which
was
to
whom
it
may
concern.
I
am
a
long-term
resident
and
business
owner
in
punta
gorda.
Our
residence
is
at
211
harvey
street
puna
gorda
florida
and
our
business
is
keau
coast.
Dental
incorporated
located
at
316,
west
helen
avenue,
pontegorta
florida.
Our
family
is
heavily
involved
in
the
community
and
we
are
a
boating
and
fishing
family.
L
L
This
was
extremely
important
since
was
it
the
best
outdoor
opportunity
for
our
children
due
to
the
lack
of
a
beach
and
affordable
public
docking,
we
chose
to
live
in
the
historic
district
for
a
large
part
due
to
regulations
which
allowed
us
to
keep
our
boat
slash
trailer
safely
stored
on
our
property.
This
allowed
us
to
have
access
to
the
boat
launches
which
our
property
taxes
have
subsidized.
Without
any
user
fees.
We
have
kept
my
boot
slash,
trailer
in
our
driveway
for
18
years,
without
any
issues
or
incidents.
L
We
have
a
reasonable
expectation
to
continue
to
do
so
without
interference.
This
has
been
a
tradition
and
right
in
our
neighborhood
since
the
inception
of
the
city
in
1887.,
punta
gorda
is
a
boating
and
fishing
community.
As
at
its
core,
the
history
of
punta
gorda
and
its
connection
to
charlotte
harbor
and
peace.
River
estuary
are
intertwined.
L
In
order
for
this
tradition
to
continue
for
all
the
residents,
it
is
essential
that
there
be
a
harbor
for
all
residents,
including
the
residents
that
do
not
have
docks
and
boat
lifts
in
their
backyard,
as
in
burn,
store,
aisles
and
punta
gorda
aisles.
Many
of
the
residents
of
the
city
have
near
the
financial
means,
or
the
ability
to
have
this
type
of
access
to
charlotte
harbor
for
many
families
with
younger
children.
This
may
be
their
only
recreational
and
outdoor
outlet.
L
Changing
this
regulation
would
likely
cause
a
lack
of
access
for
younger
working
families
and
individuals
to
have
access
to
the
harbor.
The
importance
of
this
access
was
highlighted
during
the
pandemic.
When
boating
was
one
of
the
few
social
distancing
activities
available
within
the
city.
With
that
young
younger
generation
involved
in
the
process,
it
will
be
very
difficult
to
continue
the
tradition
of
access
and
preserve
preservation
of
charlotte
harbor
estuary.
L
The
city
council
has
taken
a
tract
of
allowing
other
activities
within
the
downtown
district,
which
has
caused
more
disturbance
and
may
have
contributed
to
addition
boat
trailer
activity
with
the
downtown
district.
The
city
council's
hands-off
approach
to
airbnb
type
properties
has
likely
led
to
a
rise
in
trailer
numbers
within
the
city.
Many
of
these
are
obviously
not
city
residents.
Additionally,
the
hands-off
approach
to
regulating
boat,
launch
usage,
no
boot
launch
fees
for
non-resident
trailers
has
led
to
a
large
number
of
out-of-town
boater
parking
trailers
within
city
limits
limits.
L
The
city
has
also
allowed
local
restaurants
and
bars
to
self-regulate
noise,
which
has,
as
many
levels
been
objectionable
to
ourselves
and
our
immediate
neighbors.
A
trailer
is
obviously
much
less
intrusive
than
a
band
playing
music
at
1
am
while,
as
a
business
owner.
I
do
not
totally
object
to
the
approach.
I
do
strongly
object
to
a
hands-off
approach
on
all
of
these
items,
while
attempting
to
regulate
tax
paying
residents
with
additional
downtown
boot
trailer
regulations.
L
B
B
L
L
We
finally
settled
in
downtown
for
many
reasons,
downtown
as
vibrant,
friendly,
safe,
aesthetic,
desirable,
less
restrictive,
charlotte
county
is
two
lakhs
with
property
restrictions.
The
other
areas
of
punta
gorda
are
too
restrictive.
After
living
in
a
port
charlotte
waterfront
home
with
immediate
harbor
access
for
13
years,
we
moved
to
live
downtown.
We
knew
it
would
be
an
inconvenience
to
now
have
a
trailer
and
boat
versus
dock
with
the
lift,
but
we
felt
the
city
a
better
choice.
L
For
above
mentioned
reasons,
we
recently
attended
a
historic
district
homeowners
association
meeting,
in
which
lynn
matthews
spoke
of
a
discussion
of
imposing
similar
blue
trailer
restrictions
as
other
area
in
pontegorda.
Many
of
us
are
upset
by
this.
This
changes
our
means
of
recreation.
We
are
asking
that
you
please
leave
our
ordinance
as
it
is.
Is
that
has
been
this
way
and
has
worked
for
many
years
to
change.
L
This
would
pretty
much
be
taking
away
our
means
for
boat
ownership
having
to
store
a
boot
off-site
is
very
expensive
and
adds
another
level
of
inconvenience
retrieval
from
storage
before
heading
to
the
crowded
ramp
that
many
non-residence
boaters
and
visitors
use.
If
someone
is
not
happy
with
the
presence
or
allowance
of
boats
trailers,
they
should
have
research
before
owning
property.
Here
they
have
other
choices
with
those
restrictions,
as
that
is
what
they
desire.
We
are
a
booting
community
and
our
access
to
booting
is
by
trailering
only
pgi
keep
their
boot
on
lifts.
L
Ours
are
on
trailers
either
way
they
are
kept
on
the
and
maintain
the
vehicles
with
respect
to
current
ordinances,
I.e
new
street
parking.
I
personally
have
not
seen
any
uncamped
air
like
boats,
slice,
trailers
on
properties
in
our
neighborhood
having
the
boots
or
trailers
ordinance
is
passed.
We
will
have
to
sell
our
boat
or
sell
our
home.
L
Thank
you
for
under
your
consideration
of
our
community,
as
is
bonnie
shout
out,
and
then
we
have
sherry
britt
doing
this
may
concern
I'm
writing
about
the
possible
change
to
the
ordinance
that
allows
property
owners
in
the
downtown
punta
gorda
residential
district
to
keep
their
boats,
trailers
and
recreational
vehicles
on
their
property.
I
hope
you
reconsider
making
any
change
to
the
current
ordinance.
We
own
the
property
at
330
harvey
street.
We
choose
to
live
in
the
downtown
area
as
opposed
to
a
strict
zoning
district
like
pgi
because
of
the
restrictions
it
places
on
residents.
L
I
hope
that
you
consider
the
current
owners
as
you
make
this
decision.
We
do
not
want
to
see
this
ordinance
change,
sincerely,
sherry,
bread
and
then
john
chalibo.
My
name
is
john
shalatho
and
my
my
name
is
john
chalvo
and
my
wife
and
I
live
on
harvey
street
in
the
historic
district.
We
have
lived
in
the
historic
district
for
over
11
years
and
for
the
most
part,
love
doing
so
puna
gorda
is
a
boating
community
always
has
been,
and
always
should
be,
florida's
harborside
hometown.
L
I
look
at
the
need
to
change
a
city
ordinance
only
if
it
is
broken.
This
ordinance
is
not
broken.
In
fact,
the
chairman
of
the
code
enforcement
board-
and
I
cannot
recall
a
single
case
in
the
last
six
plus
years
that
has
come
before
the
board-
that
involved
a
violation
of
ordinance
1731-13,
thus
confirming
my
thoughts.
I
would
like
to
go
on
the
public
record,
along
with
many
other
residents
of
the
nrcd,
that
no
changes
should
be
made
to
this
ordinance.
L
L
L
L
Ram
and
then
we
have
one
from
sandy
tate,
I
own
a
property
at
321,
west
grace
in
panagordle
and
panaguarda,
and
strongly
oppose
any
changes
in
the
rules
to
allow
me
to
park
my
boat
on
my
property.
I
see
no
reason
I
would
not
be
able
to
park
one
boat
on
my
property.
Thank
you.
Sandy
tate
president
guaranty
mortgage
services,
llc,
then
neil
singer,
iron
property
at
321,
west
grace
in
ponegorda,
and
I
oppose
any
change
to
allowing
me
to
park
my
boat
on
property.
L
Thank
you,
neil
singer,
and
sandy
brandt,
dear
city
of
punta
gorda,
council
members.
I
am
writing
regarding
your
99
2020
new
business
agenda
item,
recreational
vehicles
and
book
parking
in
the
non-sro.
I'm
not
clear
on
exactly
how
the
non-sro
differs
from
district
1,
but
I
believe
I
live
in
the
area
being
discussed
for
this
change.
L
I
am
a
resident
of
the
historic
district
and
appreciate
the
freedom
we
have
always
had
to
keep
our
boats
on
our
property.
I
don't
see
it
as
any
different
than
someone
who
lives
in
the
sra
from
keeping
their
boat
on
their
property.
There's
on
the
left
ours
on
a
trailer.
We
all
appreciate
the
security
and
convenience
of
having
our
boat
on
our
property.
L
The
ability
to
maintain
as
well
as
prepare
for
and
cleaning
up
after
boating
at
our
home
is
appreciated.
We
have
been
a
fishing
and
boating
community
since
long
before
the
sro
was
developed.
Many
of
us
remember
a
bait
shop
on
marion
between
northbound
41
and
taylor
and
the
heart
of
our
business
district.
L
L
L
L
L
L
It
is
my
understanding,
boat,
trailer,
parking
on
residential
lots
and
the
historic
district
is
scheduled
for
discussion
as
a
lifelong
resident.
So
far
folks
choose
to
live
in
different
areas
of
the
city.
For
a
reason,
those
in
pgi
developed
areas
enjoy
the
water
and
relatively
restrictive
parking
requirements
which
they
requested,
those
that
don't
enjoy
less
stringent
regulations
and
not
asking
for
them
to
be
changed.
Of
course,
those
that
continually
violate
any
ordinance
should
be
dealt
with.
L
Then
we
have
a
general
comment,
not
about
a
specific
agenda
item,
but
from
patricia
niles
general
comment
on
downtown
development,
how
fortunate
we
are
as
residents
and
businesses
located
in
our
downtown
puna
gorda,
that
the
group,
conscious
of
our
city
council,
did
not
go
first
in
the
race
for
development.
Instead,
our
leaders
took
us
down
a
long
process
of
choice
and
evaluating
opportunities,
studying
what
can
be
our
future
for
our
city.
There's
been
no
waste
of
time
or
money
to
do
it.
L
This
way,
thank
you,
city,
council
and
staff
for
taking
this
project
through
highly
frustrating,
though
highly
frustrating
it
can
be
at
times.
We
as
a
community
need
to
be
honest
with
ourselves
for
our
vision
of
our
punta
gorda,
and
this
process
has
forced
us
to
deal
with
reality
with
this
opportunity
makes
my
head
spin
to
think
what
happened
just
across
the
bridge
with
sun
seeker.
L
If
that
had
also
happened
in
our
downtown
exclusive
support
beams
in
a
wait
and
see
attitude
from
a
developer
as
they
adapt
with
their
own
vision,
it
will
be
very
interesting,
as
residents
of
both
puna
gorda
and
charlotte
county,
to
see
the
outcome
for
sun
seeker.
We
here
on
this
side
of
the
bridge,
can
learn
a
lot
about
developers
how
they
position
themselves
for
business
ventures
and
an
eye
always
on
profits
in
our
area.
It
is
not
that
far
down
the
road.
L
L
It
is
prudent
to
listen
or
read
the
transcripts
for
their
earnings,
calls
that
allegiant
allegiant
travel
gives
analysts
of
major
investment
firms
at
the
end
of
each
quarter.
A
legion
has
to
keep
them
up
to
date
with
accurate
information
and
strategy,
as
it
adapts
with
sunseeker's
feature.
Each
of
these
analysts
needs
to
give
accurate
sound
advice
to
company
investors
to
earn
their
own
paychecks.
A
negative
evaluation
by
these
watchdogs
would
be
a
big
problem
for
allegiant
west.
L
So,
honestly,
it's
the
best
policy
where
to
find
allegiant
travel
earnings
calls
live
broadcast
to
the
conference
available
through
the
company's
investor
relations
website
home
page.
Their
webcast
will
also
be
archived
on
the
events
and
presentation
section
of
the
site,
with
written
transcripts,
detailed
transcripts
used
to
search
sun
seeker
in
the
document
so
easy
does
it
fundagorda.
This
is
a
journey,
keep
our
feet
on
the
ground,
not
our
head
in
the
clouds
patricia
niles
concerned
resident
and
that's
all
to
be
right
into
the
record.
L
E
N
E
N
Kathy
goetz
for
the
record
district
one,
let's
start
over
thanks
to
vice
mayor
matthews,
for
a
meeting
with
the
residents
of
the
historic
district
and
discussing
the
boat
issue.
I
think
there's
been
a
lot
of
detail
already,
given
so
I'll
just
say
a
paragraph
we
choose
to
live
here
to
celebrate
our
life
in
the
historic
district.
Without
undue
restrictions,
we've
chosen
to
live
in
a
neighborhood
which
is
not
a
subdivision,
but
a
diverse
community
with
an
historic
nod
to
fishing
and
celebrating
the
water
culture.
That's
why
we
live
here.
N
J
Good
morning
my
name
is
sally
meer
and
I'm
the
promoter
of
arts
and
crafts.
I've
done,
though,
in
the
city
for
many
years,
and
I
was
hoping
that
we
could
get
the
permission
to
allow
us
to
set
up
in
the
marketplace
we
can
separate.
We
can
do
all
the
things
that's
necessary,
but
my
vendors
really
need
to
work.
They
have
many.
Many
shows
that
have
just
strictly
been
cancelled
and
nobody
has
any
input,
and
I
was
hoping
that
I
could
persuade
you
to
maybe
think
about
it.
Thank
you.
Thank.
O
Good
morning,
and
thank
you
for
having
me
here-
my
name
is
frank
conte.
I
live
at
257
shreve
street
in
historic
punta
gorda,
but
I'm
here
to
discuss
the
new
business
recreational
vehicle
boat
parking
in
a
non-sro
special
residential
overlay
district,
which,
essentially,
if
I
read
this
correctly,
this
would
be
extending
that
sro
to
every
residential
neighborhood
in
the
city
of
punta
gorda,
not
just
the
historic
district
but
the
but
the
not
neighborhood,
residential,
10,
15
and
pd
neighborhood
residential.
O
My
question
that
I'm
a
little
confused
about
is
the
fact
that
we
are
in
the
middle
of
an
of
a
of
a
pandemic.
There's
lots
of
things
going
on
not
only
in
florida
but
in
the
world,
I'm
just
confused
about
why
we're
not
addressing
the
efforts
of
health,
safety
and
welfare
of
the
community
and
why
this
is
coming
up
now?
What
what
is
the?
What's?
The
fundamental
reason
why
who's
behind
this
thing
about
this
thing
hasn't
been
broken?
O
There's
been
two
administrations
before
this
administration
that
have
had
no
problem
with
the
way
this
the
structure
has
been
set
up
with
the
residential
neighborhoods
and
the
parking
of
rvs
and
boats.
My
question
is
why,
now
what
what's
changing
I
want
to
show
you
some
photos
and
I'm
just
a
little
confused
about.
O
O
O
This
is
a
car,
that's
in
somebody's
driveway,
but
what
I,
what
I
think
I
want
to
say
here
is
what
makes
pontegorta
so
unique
is
the
diversity
you
look
around
the
neighborhood
there
isn't
a
peripheral
nation
of
of
boats
and
rvs.
So
why
now?
I
also
want
to
read
you
the
mission
statement.
I
I
looked
through
the
website.
Pictures
on
the
screen.
Oh
great,
this
is
a
boat
that
was
built
by
myself
25
years
ago.
It's
considered
an
antique,
but
the
trolley
stops
by
my
house
and
people
take
photos
and
honk.
O
This
is
punta
gorda
this.
What
this
is,
what
makes
ponte
gorda
punta
gorda
that
they're
in
my
driveway
is
this
offensive.
This
is
what
this
is
confusing
me:
here's
a
beautiful
house,
a
beautiful
boat
next
door.
I
I
just
don't
see
the
I
I
don't
see
what
the
problem
is.
That's
what
I'm
that's,
why
I'm
confused,
but
the
mission
statement
to
punta
gorda
thank.
B
M
M
That's
the
mission
statement,
so
I
think
that
kind
of
brings
frank's
whole
and
everyone's
argument
kind
of
full
circle
right
there.
So
that's
it!
I
think
you
just
really
need
to
think
about
why
this
came
up.
Who
is
behind
all
of
this
and
why
it's
being
addressed
right
now
during
the
state
of
the
whole
world?
So
that's
it.
Thank
you
so
much
thank.
E
E
E
L
White,
it
was
so
we
have
our
municipal,
marina
report.
You
can
see
you're
compared
against
2019
annual
semi-annual,
the
rentals
that
we
have
not
substantially
dissimilar,
less
monthly
rentals
you'll
see
a
couple
transients
and
then
the
moorings
are
down
slightly
and
you'll
see
the
community
room
which
is
available
for
use
has
not
had
any
bookings
in
august
of
2020.
L
L
We
had
84
pump
outs,
67
of
which
were
from
florida.
You
can
see.
Last
year
in
august
there
were
122
and
114
florida
vessels,
so
you
can
see
that
there
is
a
difference
there,
but
at
the
same
time
there
was
151
miles
traveled
and
all
the
calls
for
service
were
answered,
and
our
marina
is
still
doing
well
and
is
full
at
this
point
with
a
waiting
list.
So
we're
still
doing
well
from
the
marina
perspective.
L
As
far
as
gill
crest
park,
when
we
look
at
some
projects,
the
main
thing
with
that
the
harbor
walk,
of
course,
is
substantially
complete
and
you
can
see
it's
very
beautiful
right
now
and
actually
is
getting
a
little
bit
of
use
more
than
a
little
bit.
But
we
did
have
a
delay
in
the
electrical
for
some
of
the
lighting
and
such
because
the
contractor
had
a
delay
in
the
supplier
providing
the
material.
So
they
asked
for
a
30-day
extension
until
they
could
get
the
actual
material
in
and
complete
the
project.
L
So
that's
expected
by
october
30th
some
of
the
remaining
improvements,
the
councils
to
begin
the
discussions
of
some
of
the
remaining
improvements,
including
some
of
the
resurfacing
parking
lots
and
on
street
parking
and,
of
course,
we'll
have
a
discussion
later
in
the
agenda
for
gilchrist
park.
Some
of
the
recreational
amenities,
the
playground
surface
issue.
L
That
is
a
maintenance
application
that
is
required
on
the
entire
surface.
The
playground
will
probably
be
closed
a
week,
maybe
10
days
and
the
work
schedule
will
be
determined
in
the
very
near
future.
The
pickleball
basketball
courts.
You
can
see
that
that
workhorse
order's
been
issued
and
work
is
beginning,
and
we
should
see
a
lot
of
that
being
completed
in
the
near
future.
L
In
the
veterans
park
phase
two,
we
have
additional
benches
that
are
being
placed
and
approved
park
locations
and
the
staff
designed
the
expansion
of
a
flag,
flagpole
area
to
include
the
sixth
military
service
branch,
the
space
force,
and,
of
course,
that
will
be
installed
the
benches
and
the
flagpole
at
no
expense
to
the
city
to
improve
the
aesthetics
of
that
park
and
signage.
Of
course,
there'll
be
a
discussion
with
the
council
later
for
signage
lashley
park
for
the
interactive
fountain.
L
We
did
have
some
trouble
receiving
any
interest
from
engineering
firms
that
were
in
the
library
the
total
cost
of
the
project
versus
the
amount
that
engineering
fees
would
could
be
charged
from
an
engineering
firm.
Just
a
lot
didn't
feel
it
was
worth
the
effort
because
they've
been
substantially
busy,
so
we
did
meet
with.
L
L
And
we'll
keep
you
informed
on
that
herald
court
center.
We
have
a
request
to
meet
with
subway
that
dates
yet
to
be
determined.
But
of
course,
as
many
small
businesses
there
are
things
they
would
like
to
discuss,
challenges
that
they
have
because
of
reduced
foot
or
no
foot
traffic
or
business.
Because
of
the
covet
issues,
etcetera
so
we'll
schedule
a
meeting
and
discuss
that
with
them.
A
I
have
a
question
with
regard
to
the
veterans
park.
I
I've
sent
you
guys
an
email
yesterday
about
this,
but
I
just
would
like
it
on
the
record.
Where
do
we
stand
with
putting
the
commemorative
bricks
back
in
place
at
veterans
park,
because
we
have
several
people
who
who've
asked
me
over
the
past
couple
of
weeks
and
there
was
concern
that
they
would
like
to
see
them
reinstalled
by
no
later
than
veterans
day,
so
that
they
could
be
there
if
there's
going
to
be
any
kind
of
a
ceremony
in
the
park
at
that
time?
L
And
jane
did
say
that
the
volunteers,
of
course,
led
by
betsy,
will
meet
at
the
campus
on
september,
26th
and
assisting
her
will
be
general
carr
and
ron
knight
and
they'll
be
replaced
in
and
around
the
new
plazas
new
dates
been
set,
as
howard
said,
but
after
they
meet
on
the
26th.
We'll
have
more
information
as
to
when
and
of
course,
the
issue
of
who
needs
place.
A
E
Other
questions,
I
have
a
question
greg.
I
was
asked
by
a
resident
if
it's
possible,
if
we're
having
trouble
with
the
lashley
park.
Playground
area.
Can
we
combine
that
with
the
gilchrist
park
project
and
when
we're
trying
to
bid
out
things
so
that
we
might
have
more
of
a
dollar
volume
worth
of
work?
That
could
make
it
more
interesting
for
somebody
to
want
to
to
bid
on
the
project
I
mean
I
realized.
One
is
the
cra
and
one
is
not.
B
L
E
B
B
E
E
There's
been
a
motion
in
a
second
to
approve
the
minutes
of
august
19th,
all
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye.
Those
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
We
also
have
an
invoice
from
our
city.
Cra
attorney
almost
at
city
attorney,
cra
attorney,
and
I
wish
that
dollar
amount
could
be
the
same
for
the
city,
but.
I
I
E
Q
I
met
dennis,
through
my
contacts
when
I
attended
the
national
fire
academy
in
emmersburg
maryland
and
dennis
and
his
his
fiancee
maria
came
down
and
they
wanted
to
buy
a
condo
and
they
did
buy
a
condo
here
in
the
city
of
punta
gordon
and
they
were.
I
was
my
wife
and
I
were
invited
to
their
wedding,
which
was
going
to
happen
in
february.
Q
They
went
back
up
to
new
york.
Dennis
is
a
captain
on
a
ladder
truck
and
he
was
in
the
fire
station.
He
had
caught
off
duty.
His
shift
was
over
as
many
firefighters
do.
They
sit
around
and
shoot
the
breeze
with
an
oncoming
shift
drinking
coffee
when
the
call
came
in
so
he
went
out
on
the
ladder
truck
that
morning
and
no
one
from
that.
Q
B
Q
R
H
J
E
C
B
E
G
Yes,
the
first
is
ga-09-2020,
which
is
the
first
reading
of
an
ordinance
that
I'll
read
by
title
only
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda,
amending
the
city
of
puente,
gordon
firefighter's
retirement
system,
as
adopted
by
ordinance
879-87
and
is
subsequently
amended.
It's
hereby
further
amended
to
provide
for
compliance
with
chapter
2019-21
laws
of
florida,
repealing
all
ordinances
and
conflict
herewith,
providing
for
severability
and
providing
an
effective
date.
S
Good
morning
for
the
record,
mikhail
finkel
paralegal,
this
proposed
ordinance
adopts
changes
in
recent
legislation
regarding
benefits
for
firefighters
diagnosed
with
cancer.
It
was
drafted
by
our
pension
attorney
and
wreck
is
being
recommended
for
approval
by
the
firefighter
pension
board.
And
if
you
have
any
questions,
we
have
representatives
of
the
board
here
that
can
answer
those
questions.
E
E
E
A
K
S
Have
the
ability
to
increase?
So
that's
the
recycling
rate
is
50
cents
for
curbside
recycling.
The
remainder
of
the
refuge
rates
for
residential
units
is
going
up
about
10,
I'm
sorry
10
cents
per
month
and
for
the
non-residential
it's
about
0.8
for
those
customers
and
that's
just
to
meet
the
financial
obligations
of
the
fund.
E
E
H
G
In
accordance
with
the
voluntary
annexation
provisions
of
section
171.04
florida
statutes,
redefining
the
boundary
lines
of
said
city
and
conformance
therewith.
Amending
the
official
boundary
map
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda
florida
directing
the
city
clerk
to
provide
certified
copies
of
this
ordinance
to
the
charlotte
county
clerk
of
court,
charlotte,
county
administrator
florida
department
of
state
and
florida
office
of
economic
and
demographic
research
providing
for
conflict
and
severability
and
providing
an
effective
date.
E
E
G
Next
is
cp-01-2020
second
reading
of
an
ordinance,
a
companion
to
the
first
ordinance
that
was
read
this,
which
I'll
read
by
title.
Only
an
ordinance
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
puente,
gorda
florida
amending
the
city
of
punta
gorda,
comprehensive
plan,
future
land
use
map
to
include
newly
annexed
lands
amending
the
future
land
use
map
to
reflect
the
change
in
the
current
designations
of
low
intensity,
industrial,
slash,
county
to
light
industrial,
slash
city
for
3.16,
plus
or
minus
acres.
E
There's
been
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
z-01-2020
all
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
those
opposed
the
motion
carries
unanimously
and
sir.
Would
you
like
to
come
to
the
podium,
since
you
were
speaking
so
people
will
know
who
you
are,
it
would
be
proper
for
us
to,
since
you
were
commenting
and.
F
F
E
E
E
E
E
G
This
is
a
resolution
which
I'll
read
by
title:
only
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
puente,
gordon
florida,
accepting
grant
funding
from
the
charlotte
county
marine
advisory
committee
under
the
voter
result,
revolving
fund
grant
program
to
fund
the
police
department's,
enhanced
law
enforcement
activities
program
authorizing
the
chief
of
police
to
administer
the
grant
on
behalf
of
the
city
and
provide
an
effective
date.
Thank
you.
R
T
Good
morning
everybody
chief
pam
davis
point
of
go
to
police
department,
so
the
enforcement
is
the
illegal
fishing
the
cast
netting
and
things
like
that.
We've
gotten
a
lot
of
calls
in
the
past
about
them
coming
in
at
night
time
and
doing
illegal
mullet
fishing.
So
we
want
to
be
able
to
have
the
opportunity
to
have
some
officers
work
overtime
and
do
some
enforcement.
R
T
A
E
There's
been
a
motion
in
a
second
to
approve
item
b2,
all
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
motion
care,
oh
opposed,
and
the
motion
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you
all
right.
We
will
move
into
our
regular
agenda
and
we
start
off
with
budget,
and
the
item
is
payroll.
Tax,
deferment,
discussion.
U
If
the
employers
do
elect
to
defer
the
withholding
of
the
employees
payroll
taxes,
then
the
employer
must
collect
those
amounts
deferred
during
that
time
period
from
the
employee
between
january
21,
on
january,
1st,
2021
and
april
30th
2021
so,
and
that
would
be
in
addition
to
their
current
payroll
taxes
during
that
time.
So,
basically,
they
would
have
double
the
tax
taken
out.
U
U
One
of
the
items
was
the
automated
payroll
system
developers.
A
lot
of
them
were
having
trouble
being
able
to
develop
the
new
software
or
the
technology
to
to
easily
track
that.
As
of
today,
we
do
have
some
information
from
our
software
company
that
they
would
be
able
to
have
a
special
code
set
up
that
we
could
use
to
track
that
information,
so
that
part
would
help
with
some
of
the
administration
of
that
particular
piece.
U
U
C
Questions
I
just
would.
I
would
like
to
go
on
the
record,
because,
when
I've
been
talking
to
people
about
this,
there's
a
a
large
misunderstanding
of
what
the
payroll
tax
is.
You
know
I've
had
people
who
think
it's
the
income
tax
portion
or
it's
the
regular
portion.
This
is
just
strictly,
as
I
understand
it,
the
social
security
portion
and
medicare
right.
C
A
I
would
agree
with
that.
I
think
there's
too
many
downsides
to
even
consider
it,
and
it
certainly
is
going
to
be
labor
intensive
for
our
staff,
which
is
already
taxed
to
the
limit.
So
no,
no
pun
intended
right,
but
I
mean
there's
just
there's
so
many
downsides.
If
you
have
an
employee
that
leaves
the
employment
of
the
city
before
the
end
of
the
year,
you
have
part
of
that
time
that
that
they
would
have
had
the
benefit
and
then
how
do
you
get
that
money
back
after
2021
starts?
A
H
E
U
Yeah
I
mean,
I
obviously
haven't
talked
to
every
employee.
I
have
talked
to
some
people
in
my
staff
and
they
were
like
no
I'd,
rather
just
have
it
be
even
versus
having
to
have
short
paychecks
after
the
holidays
when
they
might
have
bills
coming
due
and
things
like
that,
you
know
we
do
talk
about
it
at
the
director's
meeting
and
most
of
them
were
for
not
implementing
as
well.
A
E
E
B
V
Please
bear
with
me
today
I'm
going
to
talk
about
numbers
so
area
two
is
harbor,
walk
all
right
go
crossbar!
Whoops!
I
go
across
the
park
from
gill
street
to
just
west
of
barry
street,
so
pha
the
area
one
was
the
the
area
immediately
adjacent
to
the
hotel
when
area
3
is
that
area
between
the
boat
club
basin
and
fisherman's
village.
V
So
in
this
area,
we've
we've
broken
this
area
up
into
a
lot
of
separate
projects
over
the
years,
going
all
the
way
back
to
2011,
when
we
first
did
the
gilchrist
landing
hand,
launch
boat,
ramp,
some
seawall
work
and
a
short
section
of
harbor
walk
moving
forward
in
time.
We
did
some
rehabilitation
work
to
the
fishing
pier,
replaced
the
aging
seawall
and
then
completed
the
playground,
which
we
have
to
thank
the
the
friends
of
the
gilchrist
park,
playground
for
donating
a
substantial
sum
to
the
the
completion
of
that
project
and
the
restroom
pavilion.
V
So
lots
of
improvements
have
been
made
to
go
across
the
park
over
the
last
decade
currently
ongoing.
We
have
the
phase
a
of
the
area,
two
improvements
which
is
herbal,
lock,
landscaping
and
lighting,
and
addition,
some
sidewalk
connections
to
the
font,
statue,
playground,
restroom
and,
of
course,
the
ubiquitous
storm
water
management
of
note.
V
V
V
V
So
phase
b
in
order
to
actually
construct
it,
we
need
to
do
some
engineering
modification
work
which
we're
projecting
as
staff
will
cost
approximately
twenty
five
thousand
dollars.
That's
based
on
the
previous
work
that
was
done
to
break
out
the
phase
a
from
the
original
design
plans
in
the
construction
of
phase
b.
The
estimates
that
are
provided
here
are
based
on
2018
numbers
when
we
had
the
engineer's
opinion
of
cost,
as
well
as
a
bid
estimate
for
the
entire
construction
project,
so
that
phase
b
we're
estimating
at
approximately
2.2
million
dollars.
V
Given
the
remaining
funds
of
one
and
a
quarter
million
dollars,
we
have
an
unfunded
amount
of
approximately
950
000
again.
These
are
all
based
on
2018
cost
estimates
in
terms
of
potential
funding
sources.
To
look
at
that
gap
we
have
some
funds
and
undesignated
sales
tax,
some
general
funds
and
some
park
impact
fees
or
some
combination
thereof,
which
may
be
available.
V
So
you
have
we've
broken
up
the
parking
along
reda
esplanade
into
five
sections.
Let
me
back
up
for
a
second.
There
was
some
discussion
about
eliminating
the
intersection
treatments
and
in
looking
at
what
those
intersection
treatments
actually
entailed.
The
lion's
share
of
the
cost
is
actually
ada
compliance
and
drainage
correction.
V
V
There
are
some
redesign
costs
and
some
we
think
minor
grading
and
sod
kind
of
costs
that
you
would
still
incur
from
that
project,
so
we're
projecting.
That
would
be
approximately
15
of
the
total
for
any
of
these.
So
looking
at
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
worth
of
costs,
that
could
not
be
avoided,
even
if
you
eliminate
those
those
those
parking
improvements,
leaving
you
a
net
potential
savings
of
about
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
that's
for
for
red
esplanade
parking.
V
V
So
in
total
again
the
potential
cost
savings
from
the
plans
you're.
Looking
at
about
800
a
little
over
850
000
about
129,
000
of
that
would
be
rework,
so
potential
cost
savings.
If
all
three
of
those
lots
were
eliminated
from
the
plans
of
about
730
000,
so
that's
some
options
there.
You
can
certainly
mix
and
match.
I
was
looking
at
it
from
just
playing
with
the
numbers
and
I
got
to
about
750
000
worth
of
things
that
could
be
pulled
out.
V
V
V
E
E
What
we
don't
see
here
to
go
along
with
your
comment,
is
we
don't
see,
then
what
is
the
what's
the
part
of
this
that
we're
going
to
incur
regardless
of
what
we
do
and
I
mean
and
then
we're
getting
these
numbers
thrown
at
us
today,
yeah
and
it's
the
first
time
we've
seen
these
numbers
yeah.
I'm
really
offended
by
that.
E
E
E
H
Meeting
individual
meetings
that
came
up,
and
so
they
tried
to
give
us
some
options
which
didn't
occur
until
monday,
but
I
didn't
see
this
either
until
after
that,
it's
still
very
confusing.
I
mean
I
could
sorry
starting
talking
about
what
we
might
do
now.
It
seems
like
doing
the
option
where
you
put
the
big
three
parking.
H
Lots
in
place
makes
more
sense
than
doing
parking
along
reda,
especially
in
section
number
two,
because
I
just
went
by
there
and
there
are
palm
trees
every
10
feet,
and
that
means
probably
they
have
all
those
have
to
come
out
and
those
are
the
big
royals
so
and
the
other
question
I
had
is
the
total
parking
now,
if
you
do
option
the
option?
Well,
that's
not
doing
the
option,
but
your
this
is
the
way
it's
presented.
It's
just
very
confusing
to
keep
it
straight.
H
V
V
One
thing
that
we
may
want
to
do
is
actually
in
the
engineering
design,
since
we
know
we
have
to
rework.
This
anyway
is
just
ask
the
engineer
to
put
each
one
of
these
segments
as
an
ad
option
on
the
plan
and
that
way
in
the
bidding
process
we
can
get
real
numbers
from
a
construction
contractor
as
to
how
much
they're
going
to
charge
us.
These
are
all
estimates
based
on
two-year-old
numbers.
By
the
time
we
actually
go
to
a
bid.
These
numbers
may
be
three
years
old.
V
L
The
cost
estimates
that
you
see,
obviously
one
two
three
four
five
they're
diagonal
parking
along
retta,
different
things
that
would
not
existing
but
would
be
improvements
for
additional
parking
and
then,
of
course,
you
have
the
parking
in
the
park
itself,
so
any
of
those
that
are
reduced.
You
can
assume
that
there's
an
estimate
of
cost,
that's
the
net
difference
in
the
rate
column.
L
Of
course,
if
you
took
everything
out
in
this
case
one
two
and
three
in
the
park,
you
would
save
an
estimated
seven
hundred
thirty,
four
thousand
now,
of
course,
the
nine
hundred
fifty
six
thousand
that
the
project
is
currently
short,
is
a
discussion
after
this
as
to
where
you
fund
things.
If,
indeed
you
wanted
to
do
the
whole
project,
you
say,
do
the
whole
project
and
then
we
discussed
where
the
funding
could
come
from
this
you're
correct,
councilman,
that
these
questions
came
up
on
monday
and,
of
course,
staff
got
back
yesterday.
L
And
you're
right
that
could
have
been
good
information
that
you
had
before,
so
that
you
could
see
if
you're
deciding
to
reduce
the
scope
of
the
project.
How
much
would
that
actually
save
if
you
decide
not
to
reduce
any
scope
in
the
project,
of
course,
there's
an
estimated
cost
of
956
000,
and
then
we
could
discuss
where
the
funding
would
come
from.
A
A
couple
of
things
this
council,
at
least
at
least
three
of
us,
I'm
not
sure
if
wfu
were
on
council
yet
or
not.
We
had
a
long
discussion
about
this
a
few
years
ago
and
all
of
us
were
pretty
adamant
that
we
need
additional
parking
in
the
park
within
the
park,
not
necessarily
on
the
street,
but
because
we
took
away
so
many
spaces
in
front
of
the
boat
club.
We
are
obligated
by
our
terms
of
our
lease,
to
give
them
parking
to
replace
what
we
took
away.
A
A
I
think
we
have
to
figure
this
out
and
get
it
done.
We've
been
kind
of
jerking
around
with
this
for
a
long
time.
Let's
find
the
money
to
do
it,
and
if
we
have
to
use
un
undesignated
funds
from
the
one
percent
program
that
may
be
left
over,
I
suggest
that
we
move
it
forward
with
that
to
bridge
the
gap
and
just
get
this
done.
We've
got
to
get
it
done.
C
C
J
K
R
There's
two
things:
one:
we
do
have
our
obligations
to
the
boat
club,
so
those
spaces
need
to
be
there,
but
we
can't
forget
this
is
a
park
and
especially
having
too
much
parking
in
the
middle
of
the
park
where
it
really
should
be.
The
greenest
part
of
the
park
I
find
we
need
to.
This
is
what
even
our
expert
advice
had.
Is
that
if
anything,
our
parking
is
needed
on
the
east
and
west
side,
as
opposed
to
the
middle
to
this
extreme.
R
And
in
this,
in
in
the
plan
which
lights
up
victor
recall
when
he
spoke
of
this
part
of
the
issue
was
mentioning
that
just
that
we
do
have
to
be
considerate,
that
this
is
actually
a
park,
and
that
is
not
a
parking
space
and
that
that
they're
in
that.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
there's
not
so
much
parking
to
the
point
where
it
actually
jeopardizes
the
quality
of
being
a
park
itself.
E
The
problem,
so
one
of
the
observations
that
I
have
and
is
the
fact
that
we
have
three
parking
lots
or
we
have
several
parking
lots
in
this
portion
of
the
park.
There
is
a
par
a
lot
at
gill
street,
it's
already
there,
and
I
know
this.
This
plan
calls
for
kind
of
a
redo
of
that.
But
do
we
really
need
to
redo
and
we
already
have
a
a
lot
at
in
between
the
pickleball
court
and
the
tennis
courts?
Do
we
really
need
to
take
that
away?
E
And
it's
already
there
do
we
need
to
disrupt
it?
Do
we
need
to
redo
the
children's
playground,
part
that
parking
lot?
If
we
had
parking
along
retta
the
diagonal,
do
we
really
need
to
redo
those?
I
mean
just
a
question,
because
if
we
don't
need
to
redo
those,
we
can
save
a
lot
of
money
and
we
still
retain
those
parking
lots
and
we
add
capacity
along
along
red
esplanade.
E
I
agree
with
the
comment
about
the
boat
club
parking
and
we
need
to
provide
some
parking
there
that
we
might
not
need
to
put
that
the
one
in
that's
south
of
the
basketball
court.
That
particular
one,
so
there
could
be
but
a
question.
So
do
you
need
those?
Do
we
really
need
to
redo
those
parking
lots.
V
V
The
parking
lot
immediately
adjacent
to
the
to
the
pickleball
courts,
there's
only
like
five
or
six
spaces.
It
does
consume
a
lot
of
the
green
space
within
the
park
for
those
for
it's
a
fairly
inefficient
parking
lot
and
then
the
the
parking
lot
immediately
adjacent
to
the
playground
as
it
exists
now
is
not
ada
compliant.
So
there
are
issues
with
those
existing
lots.
Can
they
be
addressed?
V
Yes,
would
it
save
us
any
money?
I
don't
know
that
it
would.
Those
are
actually
discussions
that
we
had
in
the
initial
design
process
and
the
engineer
of
record
was
not
real
enthusiastic
about
the
potential
of
saving
those,
particularly
because
there
are
grading
and
elevation
changes
that
needed
to
occur
to
meet
the
the
storm
water
management
permit.
V
E
Okay,
that's,
okay!
That's
the
way
it
is
around
here.
Sometimes
you
know-
and
just
you
know,
I
guess,
I'm
hearing
you
say
well.
The
one
in
between
the
pickleball
and
the
tennis
courts
is
is
not
efficient.
Okay,
we
know
it's
not
efficient,
but
it's
going
to
cost
us
money
to
remove
it
and
deduce
and
to
so.
If
we're
looking
to
save
money,
why
get
rid
of
you
know?
Could
could
the
parking
lot
at
gill
street
flood
in
the
afternoon
rain
yeah?
E
But
you
know,
do
we
get
rid
of
it
and
spend
money
to
get
rid
of
it?
You
know
if
we're
looking
to
try
to
pair
this
down
now
that
the
parking
surface
of
the
children's
playground
parking
lot
is
that
impervious
paver
that
can
be
difficult
to
walk
on.
So
I
can
understand
if
we're
trying
to
get
rid
of
those
kind
of
surfaces,
because
it's
that
surface
may
not
be
ada
compliant,
then
I
can
understand.
Perhaps
if
there's
a
particular
issue.
L
E
C
Debbie
my
concern
about
the
parking
lot
at
the
between
the
pickleball
and
tennis
courts
is
because
they
are
so
irregular,
not
really
irregular.
But
it's
just
kind
of
weird
configuration
when
you
pull
in.
It
almost
encourages
people
to
go
up
on
the
grass,
which
I
know
we've
got.
You
know,
do
not
park
on
the
grass
signs,
but
I
I
think
to
protect
the
park.
It
might
be
worth
the
investment
to
make
that
one
meet
the
standards
of
a
parking
lot
and
then,
hopefully
they
would
not
have
to
park
on
the
grass.
C
M
B
A
I
think
we
have
a
desperate
need
for
parking
in
the
entire
park,
where
it's
totally
inadequate.
Right
now
and
we've
talked
about
this
a
number
of
times,
I
think
we
have
to
find
the
money
to
get
it
all
done,
because
I
think
this
is
something
that
we've
I
thought
we
had.
This
all
decided.
This
is
what
we
really
wanted
and
now
we're
now
we're
going
to
piecemeal
it,
and
I
I
kind
of
have
a
problem
with
that.
I'd
like
to
just
see
it
all
get
done
and
done
the
right
way.
So
it's
not.
You
know.
B
N
N
H
H
So
it's
almost
looks
like
we
should
just
look
at
this
number
one
two
and
three
first
of
all
and
make
sure
those
are
right
and
if
they
don't
need
to
be
redone
because
they're
already,
okay,
I
don't
know
if
the
one
furthest
east
number
one
you
say
is
very
tight.
I
don't
know
if
you're
expecting
to
make
it
a
little
bit
bigger.
So
it's
and.
H
Probably
be
wise
in
the
long
run,
to
do
that
and
I
see
number
three
there's
a
great
potential
for
more
parking
there
than
there
is
now.
We've
got
a
lot
of
quote
green
space
right
along
the
reda
that
could
be
redone
to
include
in
the
parking
and
that
flows
right
into
where
the
the
other
parking
behind
there
for
the
bay
front.
H
P
M
A
I
think
also
parking
lot
number
one
was
one
of
the
ones
we
talked
about
fixing
because
we
took
so
much
parking
from
the
east
end
of
the
park
out
and
there's.
This
is
one
other
way
that
they
can
get
to
the
gazebo
and
the
pavilion
a
little
easier,
because
it's
very
it's
a
very
small
space
right
now
and
we
were
talking.
H
E
H
The
parallel
course
excuse
me
yeah.
The
diagonal
parking
doesn't
add
that
many
spaces.
In
that
space
I
mean
if
it's
like
the
first
parking
that
we
put
further
west
by
excuse
me,
east
of
number,
one
they're
very
wide
spaces,
and
you
just
are
not
getting
much,
and
I
understand
you
need
to
do
it
that
size
but
and
then
you're,
taking
out
a
lot
of
trees.
B
B
V
V
It's
hard
to
tell
based
on
the
fact
that,
immediately
after
we
did
that,
we
started
working
on
other
things
within
the
park,
so
we've
had
a
construction
zone
going
on
and
you
know
people
using
more
people
crossing
the
street
bicycling
in
the
street,
walking
or
jogging
in
the
street.
Actually
so
people
the
the
vehicles
have
been
moving
slower
through
the
entirety
of
the
area.
V
E
L
V
L
That's
what
that's
trying
to
indicate?
It's
not
clear,
like
you
said,
but
if
you
put
in
section
one
the
cost
would
be
a
hundred
and
fourteen
thousand
section
two,
the
cost
to
do.
That's
285
the
way
it's
currently
estimated
and
designed.
Now,
when
you
add
that
page
in
the
other
page,
obviously
you
come
up
with
more
than
956,
but
that's
because
you
already
have
a
portion
of
it
funded
say
the
956
is
the
deficit,
but
you
could
look
at
that.
The
opposite
way.
That's
a
good
point,
as
this
is
the
cost,
not
the
savings.
L
E
C
E
B
E
H
V
E
A
A
H
E
C
E
L
L
There's
170
spaces
total
and
these
two
slides
up
for
grabs.
So
you
can
decide.
You
know
what
questions
you
have
about
this,
including
cost
orientation
etc
and
we'll
get
that
back
to
you
and
give
you
an
opportunity
to
review
it
and
the
public
to
look
at
it
and
come
back
for
a
discussion
thanks.
Okay,.
C
B
H
V
Given
the
location
of
the
street
openings
and
the
tennis
courts,
we
looked
at
it
several
ways
and
without
taking
out
a
significant
quantity
of
mature
landscaping,
you
really
can't
get
many
more
spaces
in.
If
you
take
some
of
that
landscaping
out,
you
end
up
with
like
four
to
six
more
spaces,
so
it's
definitely
a
trade-off.
There.
P
E
In
the
information
that
you
provide
to
us,
could
you
include
here's
what
the
overall,
I
know
you
give
the
cost
of
the
project,
but
like
the
baseline
of
what
needs
to
be
done,
you
know,
I
know
you
gave
us
a
number
and
then
you
said
these
are
some
saving
kind
of
things.
Maybe
it's
already
there,
but
these
are
the
things
that
we
need.
We
know
we
need
to
do,
and
this
is
so.
This
is
not
not
what's
on
the
table.
V
Right,
does
that
make
sense?
Yes,
it
does.
It
does
get
a
little
bit
difficult
because
we
have
a
separate
breakout
for
for
phase
a
we
don't
for
phase
b,
we're
going
back
to
the
original
plans,
which
included
both.
So
some
of
the
line
items
in
the
engineer's
estimate
include
things
that
are
already
built.
V
So
it's
a
little
bit
hard
to
separate
those
out
because
they're
not
sort
of
one-to-one.
We
can
definitely
do
our
best
to
try
and
give
you
a
better
sort
of
more
comprehensive
look
at
the
numbers
in
in
the
next
time
around,
and
certainly
any
specific
questions
that
any
individual
council
person
has.
Please
direct
them
to
urban
design
staff,
and
we
will
try
and
answer
those
questions
and
definitely
make
sure
that
those
questions
are
answered
before
this
comes
back
to
you.
E
L
E
B
U
E
C
E
E
All
right,
the
city
council
is
back
in
session
and
we
have
tabled
the
previous
item
to
the
next
council
meeting
and
I
think
yeah.
I
think
it's
really
important
that
if
we're
not
going
to
have
sufficient
information
on
an
item
that
we're
going
to
bring
to
the
council,
then
we
can't
have
enough
time
to
just
to
really
digest
it
and
study
it,
and
let
our
residents
digest
it
and
study
it.
Then
perhaps
the
items
shouldn't
even
be
put
on
the
council
agenda
and
we
should
defer
those
to
the
next
time.
W
As
you
know,
within
the
special
residential
overlay
district,
the
parking
which
includes
punitive
isles
brimstone
burnt,
storm
meadows,
parking
of
recreational
vehicles
and
boats
is
strictly
limited,
where
rvs
can
be
parked
overnight,
with
a
permit.
Seven
nights
in
a
30-day
period
and
boats
may
be
parked
overnight,
with
a
permit
for
two
nights
up
to
four
times
a
calendar
year.
W
Boats
and
recreational
vehicles
can
be
parked
in
the
driveway
during
the
day
from
7am
to
7
p.m.
Without
a
permit,
the
neighborhood
residential
zoning
district
allows
for
a
property
owner
or
tenant
to
park,
one
recreational
vehicle
and
one
watercraft
trailer
with
or
without
multiple
axles
or
a
non-commercial
utility
trailer,
with
no
more
than
one
axle
or
a
combination
of
no
more
than
two
of
those
on
a
property
with
no
permit
required.
W
R
I
mean
truthfully:
I'm
I'm
surprised
that
we
have
been
discussing
this.
I
find
that
it
to
be
very
contrary
to
our
identity
as
a
city
in
truth,
but
one
thing
we
can't
forget
is
that
the
sro
rules
came
about
in
1986
when
some
council
members
wanted
to
incorporate
the
deep
restrictions
of
pgi
into
the
city
code,
and
there
was
actually
a
lot
of
pushback
people
really
didn't
want.
This
council
voted
for
it
anyway,
but
we
can't
forget
that
the
sro
code
were
deed
restrictions
of
a
particular
neighborhood.
R
This
never
never
intended
to
be
be
part
of
the
city
as
a
whole.
I
think
we
just
can't
forget
that
under
no
circumstances,
even
at
that
time,
when
they
discussed
this,
there
was
understanding
that
this
simply
was
a
way
in
which
pgi
would
be
able
to
get
cd
expenditures
to
pay
for
their
code
enforcement.
That's
really
why
we
have
an
sro.
Is
that
that's
really
what
it
was,
and
so
there
never
was
any
intention
to
ever.
Have
the
deep
restrictions
of
pgi
ever
be
applied
to
the
city
as
a
whole.
So
I'm
absolutely
against
this.
A
The
first
is
that
the
ordinance
from
2013
does
not
address
the
current
trend
of
pickup
trucks
who
have
dual
rear
tires,
and
that's
got
to
be
changed
because
a
number
of
trucks
people
are
now
buying
have
dual
rear
tires,
so
that
they
can
accommodate
hauling
boats
or
hauling
fifth
wheels
or
other
things,
and
it
clearly
states
and
calls
out
in
the
ordinance
that
they
are
not
permitted.
So
I
think
that
needs
to
be
changed
completely
separate
of
the
rest
of
this
discussion
actually,
but
I
think
that
needs
to
be
updated.
A
I
don't
have
a
problem
if
people
are
allowed
to
park
a
boat
in
their
driveway
having
talked
to
everyone
in
the
historic
district,
I'm
okay
with
it,
they
they
have
in
many
cases,
purchased
a
property
there,
so
they
could
park
on
their
property.
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
it
and
and
I'm
I'm
a
changed
opinion
on
this
one.
So
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
do
support
leaving
it
the
way
it
is.
I
do
think
we
should
enforce
not
parking
them
on
the
street,
just
like
we're
doing
with
cars.
A
However,
so
I
think
that
that's
something
that
we
can
you
know
we
can
probably
discuss
as
a
as
a
council.
I
think
they
should
have
the
same
restrictions
overnight
parking
as
they're
going
to
have
with
cars,
so
unless
they
have
a
permit
from
the
city
which
they
can
do
the
same
thing
that
they
do
in
the
sro.
For
that,
if
it's
necessary,
but
you
know
I'm
in
favor
of
leaving
it
the
way
it
is
as
long
as
nobody
abuses
it
and
and
by
the
way
the
ordinance
does
specifically
state.
A
C
Well,
one
gentleman
that
spoke
today
asked
why
we
were
bringing
this
up
now
and
when
I
first
saw
it
on
the
agenda,
I
sort
of
thought
the
same
thing.
However,
I
would
just
like
to
remind
him
and
anybody
else
who
would
question
this-
that
this
is
the
only
way
we
can
discuss.
Anything
that
goes
on
in
our
city
is
to
put
it
on
the
agenda
and
discuss
it.
I
C
So,
even
though
you
know,
I
don't
think
any
of
us
want
to
see
this
become,
you
know,
pgi
annex
and
I
couldn't
find
a
single
person.
Nor
did
I
hear
from
a
single
person
who
wasn't
real
happy
with
things
just
the
way
they
are,
but
it's
still
you
have
to
remember.
This
is
the
only
way
we
as
five
members
of
your
city
can
talk
about
this,
and
so
that's
why
it's
there
there
was
a
problem
somebody
wanted.
It
discussed,
we're
discussing
it,
john
well.
B
E
E
Yeah,
I'm
in
support
of
leaving
it
the
way
it
is
as
well.
I
think
that
it's,
you
know,
part
of
the
character
of
our
community,
and
I
agree
with
you
jihad
that
you
know
the
the
deed
restrictions
of
pgi
and
bsi
and
burnt
storm
meadows
are
they're
there
for
a
reason
and
or
the
way
that
they
were
codified
into
the
city.
Although
burnt
star
isles
still
has
deed
restrictions
and
burnt.
E
Star
meadows
actually
is
a
different
kind
of
a
deed
restriction
because
it
is
a
mandatory
homeowners
association,
so
that
gives
much
more
teeth
into
their
their
need
restrictions,
but
I
think
just
for
the
community
as
a
whole.
It's
like
when
I
saw
this
it's
like
what's
broke.
You
know
it's
kind
of
so
but
debbie
you're
right.
We
can't
talk
about
anything
unless
we're
here
so
and
that's
one
of
the
things
they
teach
us
at
the
on
the
florida
league
of
cities.
E
W
Madam
mayor,
yes,
ma'am
just
for
clarification
for
the
dual
wheel
vehicles.
There
is
a
last
sentence
that
says
this
section
shall
not
apply
to
pickup
trucks
of
one
ton
or
less,
with
or
without
two
rear
wheels
on
each
side.
So
that
would
consider
duallys.
That's
like
third
paragraph
up
from
the
bottom
for
the
2013
ordinance.
A
B
W
Well,
like
an
f250
ford
or
something
like
that,
I'm
not
real
sure.
I
know
we
have
a
2500
series
truck
and
it's
not
a
one
ton.
It's
like
a
three-quarter
ton,
so
but
it's
not
dual
wheels
in
addition
to
that,
the
the
next
to
the
last
paragraph
also
states
that,
with
the
trailers,
one
recreational
vehicle,
one
watercraft
trailer
with
or
without
multiple
vehicles
or
a
non-commercial
utility
trailer
with
no
more
than
one
axle
or
a
combination
of
no
more
than
two
trailers.
Okay,.
U
E
Lisa
all
right,
thank
you
all
right,
any
any
more
discussion
on
this
item.
I
don't
think
we
need
a
motion
on
this.
Do
we
we
just
put
it
to
bed
discussion,
okay,
excellent!
So
now
we
can
go
to
recommendation
from
city
officers
and
we'll
move
to
the
city.
Manager.
First
item
is
the
action
register
quarterly
update.
X
Good
morning,
everyone
melissa
riker
communications
manager
about
well.
It
was
probably
going
on
just
about
a
year
ago
now,
several
members
of
our
council
had
requested
that
we
would
have
these
action
register
updates
quarterly.
So
that's
what
I'm
here
for
give
you
your
quarterly
update,
we'll
start
with
the
ponce
de
leon
park,
design
and
bidding
is
still
set
for
fy
2020
construction
in
fy21.
X
The
solicitation
package
for
the
seawall
construction
has
been
let
and
it
closes
tomorrow,
so
we
should
get
some
responses
back
on
that
gilchrist
park
phase
two
we
went
over
in
the
cra
today,
so
I'm
just
going
to
skip
over
this
one
septic
to
sewer.
The
big
thing
on
this
item
is
that
it
will
be
on
the
charlotte
county
board
of
commissioners
agenda
on
september
22nd,
so
the
project
continues
to
move
forward.
I
Howard
eunick,
we
don't
know
when
it
will
be
on
the
agenda.
We
do
have
agenda
meetings
in
the
morning
because
we
have
a
council
meeting
on
the
23rd,
so
there
will
be
a
group
of
us
that
will
be
there.
So,
yes,
if
you
want
to
attend,
we
don't
know
when
we
don't
know
when
yet
because
the
last
time
we
had
to
sit
forever
and
we
don't.
I
X
X
So
that'll
be
an
opportunity
that
that
we
have
as
staff
to
share
information
about
our
projects
as
well
as
partner
with
the
county,
so
they
can
get
the
word
out
about
the
projects
that
they
have
as
well.
I
will
say
publicly:
we
are
very
interested
in
doing
more
presentations,
so
if
other
homeowners,
associations
or
other
groups
would
like
a
presentation
on
sales
tax,
we'll
make
sure
we
get
that
put
together
for
you.
E
X
annexations,
you've
done
a
couple
of
them
today.
This
is
just
a
complete
list
of
of
what
we've
done
so
far
this
year,
what
we
have
in
process
and
we're
working
again
towards
the
the
goals
of
even
more
annexation
in
the
next
year,
but
you
can
see
a
lot
was
accomplished
in
this
fiscal
year
sign
code
revisions.
That
is
something
that
is
ongoing
right
now.
We
have
a
survey
out
there
that
we
really
request
people
to
take.
If
you
have
an
opinion
on
signs,
now
is
the
time
to
make
that
opinion
known.
X
The
survey
only
takes
nine
ten
minutes,
it's
pretty
quick
and
it
does
have
the
option
to
leave
comments.
So
if
you
want
to
say
something
beyond
what
we've
asked
you
there's
opportunity
for
that
too,
and
then
we,
when
we
complete
items,
we
pull
them
to
the
back
of
the
action
register,
and
this
is
a
list
of
all
that's
been
accomplished
in
fy
2020,
you
can
see
there's
a
everything
from
emergency
work
policy,
cra,
dot
refinancing.
X
We
get
the
punta
gorda
boat
club,
land,
lease
done,
hired
a
new
city
manager
a
whole.
A
whole
lot
has
been
accomplished
in
fy
2020,
so
if
you
have
any
questions
on
these
projects
or
any
other,
if
I
can't
answer
them,
we
have
a
vast
amount
of
subject
matter
experts
here
with
us
today
in
the
other
room
and
some
in
here,
and
so,
if
there's
any
more
questions,
please.
E
Ask
I
have
one
in
regard
to
the
vacation
rental
information
and
I
think
it
stems
from
a
recent
email
that
I've
received
from
a
resident
who's
just
really
struggling
with
the
rental
next
door
and
having
issues,
and
it
was
the
email
that
was
sent
to
us
was
very
impassioned.
It
was
not
a
complaint
kind
of
an
email.
E
This
is
the
state
code
so
that
we
can
let
let
them
know.
This
is
the
code.
But
here
are
things
you
know.
You
know
about
noise,
that
kind
of
things,
because
it's
the
residents
are
trying
to
know
they
come
to
us
and
they
ask
us
and
and
so
then
we're
trying
to
search
for
things
as
well.
So
if
we
can
come
up
with
some
kind
of
a
good
idea,
at
least
an
informational
kind
of
sure,.
E
X
And
I've
heard
chief
davis
say
if
not
once
a
thousand
times
that
if
a
resident
feels
like
there's
a
violation
of
a
noise,
ordinance
or
or
any
other
ordinance
to
just
give
the
police
department
a
call.
Even
if
you
just
called
the
non-emergency
number
they're
happy
to
come
out,
they
they're
happy
to
provide
education.
T
Good
morning,
chief
davis,
panagar
police
department,
melissa's
right
and
I
get
that
people
are
always
a
little
reluctant
to
call
because
they
feel
like
they're
bothering
us,
but
that's
our
job
so
and
they
can
remain
remain
anonymous.
You
don't
have
to
leave
your
name,
you
don't
have
to
say
hey.
I
want
to
be
visited
by
the
officer.
You
can
say
I
don't
want
to
leave
my
name.
I
don't
need
an
officer
to
come
by.
T
A
They
can
also,
if,
if
it's
an
airbnb
rental
airbnb
has
very
strict
standards
that
the
people
must
follow
for
both
as
owners
as
and
as
renters,
and
if
a
renter
is
a
really
violating
the
the
ordinances
of
the
city
when
they're
living
in
one
of
those
houses,
you
can
turn
them
into
airbnb
and
airbnb
will
follow
up
and
they
will.
They
actually
put
like
black
marks
on
people's
profiles
on
their
website.
So.
J
E
One
is
actually
being
leased
by
an
organization
called
vacasa
vacation
and,
according
to
this
person
that
they
have
actually
advised
picasa
and
vicasa
said.
Oh,
yes,
well,
we
put
this
in
our
brochure,
that's
in
the
house
and
when
she
has
actually
gone
over
to
the
house
to
talk
to
the
people
that
are
in
there
their
their
statement
is
what
brochure
so
it's
you
know.
E
W
W
W
A
A
couple
things
I
spoke
to
john
wright
yesterday
and
he
is
99
certain
that
the
sullivan
street
thing
in
november
is
not
going
to
happen.
They
haven't
up.
They
even
filed
the
paperwork
on
the
updated
date,
yet
he
told
me
so
he
said
he's
he's
fairly
certain
that
that
event
will
not
occur,
and
I
did
speak
to
terry
ashley
last
week
about
the
parade
and
you're
correct
she.
They
are
leaning
toward
not
having
the
christmas
parade
because
of
social
distancing.
A
If
we
tell
them
that
they're
contingent
upon
the
governor
changing
things,
I
don't
personally
feel
that
it's
it's
in
our
best
interest
to
do
any
permits
prior
to
2021.
At
this
point,
I
feel
very
strongly
about
it.
I
think
that
we
need
to
keep
people
safe
and
we
need
to
lead
by
example,
and
if
we're
going
to
allow
one
event
to
occur,
then
we
have
to
allow
them
all.
We
have
to
give
equal
weight
to
every
event.
R
I
think
outdoor
events
where
people
can
be
distance
we
should
approve.
I
think
that
we
we
have
to
allow
people
to
make
a
living,
and-
and
I
mean
we
we
already
are
when
it
comes
to
like
the
markets.
I
I
find,
if
they're,
within
the
similar
parameters
of
what
we're
currently
allowing.
I
don't
see
why
we
can't
allow
events
that
would
have
a
similar
type
scenario.
I
I
find
that
I
mean
this
is
one
thing:
this
is
even
the
science
behind
this
outdoor
events.
A
There
was
a
wedding
in
maine
three
weeks
ago
and
75
people
went
to
the
wedding
and
59
of
them
came
away
with
covid,
and
then
they
spread
it
to
several
thousand
other
people
and
maine
has
a
huge
outbreak
right
now
because
of
a
wedding
of
75
people
to
have
a
wedding
with
800
people
in
lashley
park.
I
don't
think
it's
prudent
and
I'm
I'm
sorry.
I
don't
agree
it.
A
A
So
they
can
do
that
if
they,
if,
if
the
event
center,
is
willing
to
give
them
a
permit,
but
you
know
in
the
case
of
some
of
these
other
things,
that
the
welcome
home
vietnam
veterans
parade
one
of
the
reasons
why
they
claim
they
moved
the
event
out
of
punta
gorda
is
because
they
couldn't
get
a
beer
license.
Well,
nobody's
issuing
beer
licenses
in
the
state
right
now,
so
I
don't
know
how
they're
going
to
even
have
their
event.
I
talked
to.
E
R
One
thing
in
regard
to
things
like
an
arts
and
crafts
show
that's
outside:
that's
not
comparable
to
a
wedding,
a
wedding
people
are
in
close
quarters,
they're
more
likely
going
to
be
touching
hugging
x,
y
and
z.
I
I
think
that
if,
if
it's
going
to
be
a
similar
to
like
what
we're
doing
with
like
our
street
markets,
I
don't
see
why
we
should
disallow
people
from
doing
things
which
we
currently
are
doing.
I
think
that
people
can
do
things
outdoors,
distance
and
safely
do
this
and
be
able
to
conduct
their
business.
R
I
think
that
we're
really
hurting
people's
lives.
I
think
one
thing
with
us,
because
so
much
of
our
population
has
not
been
affected
financially
by
this
by
the
fact
that
they're
living
on
pensions
and
x,
y
and
z,
we,
I
think
we
as
a
body,
can
sometimes
forget
the
kind
of
financial
impact
which
it
has
on
working
people,
and
I
think
that
us
being
in
a
way
of
people
being
able
to
conduct
their
business,
I
I
think
we
really
have
to
be
understand
the
consequences
of
really
interfering
with
people's
lives.
I
again
outdoor
events.
E
I
E
C
C
R
But
how
is
it
that
we're
able
to
go
grocery
shopping
and
do
other
things?
I
mean
truthfully?
This
is
a
real
concern.
We
would
stay
in
our
houses
and
have
no
activity
at
all.
I
think
if
people
are
wearing
masks
and
being
distant,
they
they
should
be
allowed
to
conduct
their
trade.
I
think
we're
hypocritical
when
we
live
our
lives
in
the
convenient
boxes.
I
think
that
I
think
that
we
can
make
a
rule
where
we
can
do
preliminary
approval
really
contingent.
On
the
governor's
rule,
the
government
doesn't
change
his
mind.
H
W
For
the
one
event
we
were
asked,
and
that
was
the
vietnam
veterans
parade,
we
were
asked
to
go
ahead
and
process
it
and
they
were
asking
for
contingent
approval
for
the
governor,
and
they
said
it
would
be
easier
to
go
ahead
and
prep
and
prepare
for
the
event
and
cancel
it
at
the
last
minute.
Then
wait
till
the
last
minute
and
have
to
prepare
for
it.
So
some
of
these
events,
we
can
get
a
drop
dead
date.
H
W
The
only
event
that
we
have
allowed
it
was
cancelled,
dude
or
postponed
due
to
weather,
I
believe,
is
coming
back
october.
3Rd
would
be
the
drive-in
movie
event
for
crossroads,
hope
academy
at
the
marketplace,
and
since
it
is
a
unique
event
with
people
in
their
cars
and
space
properly,
that
was
a
little
more
of
a
unique
event.
It
wasn't
people
out
and
about.
W
E
C
R
But
at
some
point
we're
going
to
have
to
get
back
to
living
a
normal
life.
I
mean
this
is
not
the
only
pandemic.
I
mean
this
is
a
normal
occurrence
in
human
society,
and
so
these
come
we
there's
times.
We
have
restricted
activities.
Then
we
go
back
to
normal.
Then
we'll
have
another
time
expected
activities,
but
there's
a
point
to
which
we
will
be
able
to
interact
socially
again.
I
mean
this.
This
is
not
a
rare
yeah.
E
H
H
A
E
E
I
brought
up
to
howard
and
greg
this
week
is
the
fact
that
our
mask
ordinance
is
an
emergency
ordinance.
It
was
valid
for
90
days.
90
days
is
october.
6Th.
Our
first
meeting
in
october
is
october
7th,
so
we
have
to
do
it
at
the
next.
We
need
to
do
if,
if
we
want
to
contin
continue
the
ordinance
in
some
fashion,
we
need
to
discuss
it
prior
to
that
time,
so
we
either
need
to
decide
we
want
to.
I
know
I'm
mixing
apples
and
oranges
here,
but
we
need
to
decide.
E
We
either
have
a
special
meeting
just
before
that
expires,
so
that
we
can
decide
what
we
want
to
do,
because
we
don't
know
what
things
are
going
to
be
like
in
a
few
weeks
or
we
can
decide.
We
want
to
discuss
it
on
the
23rd,
which
is
our
next
meeting.
I
think
we
should
so
it's
if
we
want.
We
can
have
it
put
on
the
agenda
for
the
23rd
to
at
least
discuss
it.
J
W
C
The
the
historic
walk
to
honor,
pastor
thomas,
if
that's
only
50,
people
per
walk.
They
sh
that's
within
the
limit
anyway.
Right
from
what
I
understand:
yes,
so
that
that
could
be
an
okay
and
they're
outdoors
yeah
that
I
I
don't
see
any
problem
at
all
with
that,
if
the
drc?
Okay,
so
because
that's
they're
already
under
the
limit.
W
W
W
W
A
And
again
we're
going
to
pick
and
choose
which
ones
we
want
to
approve
or
not
approve.
I
I
think
we
need
to
be
consistent
october
17th.
The
walk
for
pastor
thomas
is
probably
okay,
because
that
falls
within
the
allowable
guidelines
that
doesn't
even
require
city
council
approval
technically
so
that
one
should
be
okay
but
the
the
walk
to
end
alzheimer's,
probably
not.
B
A
W
Just
a
quick
one
on
the
I
I
know
this
one's
not
till
the
end
of
december,
but
they're
planning
fireworks.
They
want
it
to
be
open
to
the
public.
To
give
back
the
the
wedding
I
have
their
application
d,
I
mean
people
can
use
the
park
on
a
first.
Come
first
serve
basis
without
any
types
of
approval.
They
couldn't
have
fireworks,
obviously
without
any
type
of
approval,
but
to
be
able
to
get
that
large
of
a
wedding
and
wedding
party
and
things
together.
W
E
C
A
A
B
W
E
R
I
mean
we
also
still
have
the
governor's
order,
what
he's
going
to
do
as
well,
what
we
have
the
governor's
order.
I
mean
like
again
all
of
this.
None
of
this
really
most
of
this
can't
happen
without
the
governor
changing
his
order.
Anyway,
I
don't
see
why
we
can't
at
least
process
that
one
is
that
yeah,
the
the
veterans
paradigm.
Isn't
it
already
scheduled.
P
E
B
W
A
E
A
Put
the
drc
item
agenda
item
on
the
25th
meeting,
okay
and
and
talk
with
him
in
the
meantime
and
see.
If
that's
going
to
be
an
issue
for
him
I
mean
you
know,
I
don't
know
it's
it's
a
tough
one,
because
it's
I
personally.
I
think
it's
way
too
soon
to
be
doing
events
of
that
caliber
right
now,
but
you.
E
B
E
G
You
haven't
you've
been
quiet
today,
exactly
that's
what
I
was
going
to
say.
The
word.
Consistency
has
come
up
quite
a
bit,
which
is
very
good
and
we're
in
some
very
difficult
times,
and
some
people
that
are
trying
to
take
advantage
of
local
governments
as
a
result
of
the
very
hard
decisions
that
city
councils
have
to.
W
G
G
K
K
Then
have
another
organization
that
wants
to
have
some
sort
of
activity
that
you
know
we
may
not
think
is
as
necessary
or
important
as
the
veterans
and
deny
them
an
opportunity
that
another
group
was
given.
So
we're
on
the
right
path
now
and
I
think
revisiting
it
on
a
regular
basis
is
a
good
idea.
But
let's,
let's
first
wait
to
see
what
the
governor
says,
but
then
even
then,
yeah.
L
E
E
E
P
Karen
smith
city
clerk
for
the
record
just
quickly
for
boards
and
committees,
we
have
three
boards
with
vacancies.
We
have
two
alternates
on
the
board
of
zoning
appeals.
We
have
an
alternate
on
the
building
board.
We
have
three
one
three
year
term
on
code
enforcement
and
that's
all
I
have
that's
it.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
Lynn,
I
would
just
like
to
ask
the
city
manager
to
weigh
in
publicly
on
this.
I
sent
an
email
yesterday
requesting
clarification
on
the
governor's
order
for
the
50
percent
occupancy
rule
versus
50
people.
Can
you
just
put
on
the
record
what
how
this
is
differentiated
and
how
people
can
make
a
decision
for
their
facility
to
hold
or
not
hold
an
event?
I
I
I
L
And
I
believe
too,
in
addition
to
that,
that
the
implication
is,
of
course
a
restaurant
could
have
50
and
have
100
people
in
it,
but
the
implication
is
that
it's
a
managed
social
distancing
type
area,
whereas
people
that
are
50
people
in
a
park
there's
no
one.
There
saying
you
have
to
sit
at
different
tables,
you
have
to
wear
a
mask.
You
have
to
you
know
when
you
come
in,
you
have
to
not
wear
a
mask,
so
it's
managed
versus
non-managed.
Also,
and
that's,
I
think,
one
of
the
key
things
with
it.