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From YouTube: Regular City Council Meeting 6-3-2020
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Regular City Council Meeting 6-3-2020
A
Welcome
to
the
June
3rd
2020
Punta
Gorda
City
Council
meeting,
let
the
record
reflect
that
all
City
Council
members
and
city
officials
are
present
or
in
the
building,
as
we
have
been
saying
for
a
while,
since
I
am
now
I've
been
sitting
in
the
city
clerk's
seat
for
a
while,
so
that
we
can
social
distance.
Let's
begin
the
meeting
by
standing
for
the
invocation,
followed
by
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance,
and
we
invite
those
of
you
watching
to
please
join
us.
B
Before
we
pray
this
morning,
let
us
observe
a
moment
of
silence
for
a
hundred
thousand-plus
Americans
that
have
lost
their
lives
to
the
coronavirus.
Let
us
think
of
their
families
that
are
grieving.
Let
us
remember
the
brave
doctors,
nurses
and
all
health
care
workers.
Let
us
remember
the
first
responders
in
their
families.
Let
us
also
remember
all
those
that
have
lost
their
jobs
and
is
struggling
to
make
ends
meet.
Let
us
also
remember
the
unrest
and
the
violence
going
on
in
our
country.
B
A
Alright,
so
for
those
of
you
who
are
watching
and
haven't
watched
before,
we've
kind
of
changed
things
up
here,
and
so
we
will
begin
by
having
our
city
manager
read
our
public
comments,
since
we
don't
we've
changed
our
order
and
we
do
not
have
a
public
comment
at
the
end
of
our
meeting
today.
So
Howard
I
will
turn
this
over
to
you.
C
C
C
C
The
next
item
is
Neal
Gump
min
topic,
Ponce
Inlet,
whiting-
it
may
sound
sarcastic,
but
who
is
going
to
pay
for
the
Ponce
Inlet
widening,
since
we
will
no
longer
be
using
it?
Perhaps
all
who
didn't
pay
for
the
new
cut
should
bear
the
burden
of
Ponce.
We
established
two
classes
of
PGI
folks,
birders
and
everyone
else.
Perhaps
we
should
continue
with
the
division.
C
C
I
have
no
problems
with
the
Ponce
Inlet,
with
I
have
passed
boats
of
many
different
size
coming
and
going
in
that
Inlet
I
have
seen
a
few
captain's
complain
about
the
inlet
and
all
I
have
to
say
to
them
is
take
a
boat
handling
course
or
private
instructions
on
ferrying
your
own
boat
yachts,
the
size
of
the
Queen
Mary.
Don't
use
the
inlet.
C
Tom
Jamison
Ponce,
Inlet,
widening
I,
saw
the
entry
in
city
highlights
about
the
discussion
of
widening
Tom's
channel.
It
kind
of
threw
me
since
now
that
fuckless
pass
is
open.
Theoretically,
at
least
there
should
be
less
boat
traffic
at
Ponce.
I
have
used
the
channel
recently
and
found
it
wide
enough
that
two
40-foot
motor
boats
could
pass
easily.
As
we
both
know,
any
widening
of
the
channel
will
require
permits
and
engineering
that
will
be
costly.
As
you
probably
know,
I
posted
this
question
on
next-door
and
it
seems
the
respondents
were
overwhelmingly
against
widening
the
channel.
C
Kathi
hunt,
Ponce
Inlet
whitening
I,
am
providing
comments
regarding
widening
pods
Inlet
I
use
Ponce
Inlet
several
times
a
week
and
have
for
several
years.
I
have
never
seen
a
problem.
We're
widening
the
inlet
would
be
on
any
benefit
would
be
on
any
benefit
for
larger
boats.
Many
of
the
larger
boats
are
using
Buckley's
pass
and
more
will
do
so
when
done
alligator
Creek
is
dredged
widening
the
inlet
could
introduce
some
unintended
consequences
like
boats,
assuming
there
are
three
lanes
of
traffic
and
increased
boats
passing
each
other
when
another
boat
is
approaching.
C
If
the
funds
are
available
in
the
canal
maintenance
budget,
please
consider
reducing
the
additional
$100
fee.
We
are
paying
surprises
me.
This
is
being
discussed.
Given
the
recent
opening
of
Buckley's
pass
and
a
dredging
not
complete
I
guess
people
complain
about
everything
and
it's
too
bad.
It
requires
the
use
of
city
resources.
C
The
reason
we're
using
these
comments
is,
we
always
have
a
kovat
update
on
the
agenda
and
included
in.
That
is
what
Charlotte
County
is
doing
with
their
part
facilities
and
what
we
are
doing.
That's
why
it
relates
I,
am
a
homeowner
and
have
a
registered
small
business
in
Charlotte.
County
I
want
to
bring
to
this
assembled
council
a
reminder
that
the
electricity
has
been
turned
off
to
the
Gilchrist
Park
pavilions
I
applaud
the
actions
you
took
and
agree.
It
was
the
right
thing
to
do
at
the
time.
C
C
For
more
than
15
years,
a
number
of
musicians
have
gathered
on
Thursday
night
at
Gilchrist
Park,
to
play
music
of
many
genres.
The
Thursday
night
event
would
draw
upwards
to
more
than
five
hundred
people
in
the
audience's
during
peak
tourist
seasons,
which
prompted
us
to
split
the
music
event
to
include
Tuesday
night
as
a
way
to
break
up
the
extremely
large
and
overwhelming
crowds.
C
The
Thursday
night
event
has
been
agreed
upon
by
the
various
musicians
to
be
acoustic
instruments
only
and
the
electric
instruments
would
take
on
a
separate
event
on
Tuesday.
This
has
worked
brilliantly
for
all
musicians
and
audience
participants,
as
it
made
it
possible
to
hear
the
different
groups
without
conflict
of
noises.
C
Just
a
little
background
about
the
Tuesday
night
music
event.
Tuesday
night
music
at
gilchrist
is
from
6
p.m.
to
9
p.m.
this
event
started
about
a
year
before
the
park
remodel
and
started
back
up
after
the
park
reopened.
Since
the
reopening
of
gilchrist
park,
the
number
of
gathered
players
and
audience
members
has
slowly
grown
to
a
respectable
audience
of
a
couple
hundred
people
during
peak
tourist
season.
During
the
summer
months,
we
rarely
get
more
than
50
to
60
people.
In
total.
C
We
anticipate
about
50
people
in
total
during
the
summer
months
to
follow
most
of
the
regular
local
residents
bring
their
own
lawn
chairs,
and
the
visiting
tourists
generally
use
the
seawall
to
sit
and
also
the
retaining
wall,
seating
areas
between
a
large
pavilion
and
the
grassy
areas.
There
is
plenty
of
sitting
area
in
these
locations
to
safe
distance
about
a
hundred
people.
C
This
is
concerning
the
cloudberry
lodge
hurricane
fencing,
Google
States
chain-link
fence
dry
pond,
as
we
all
know
that
live
in
Florida.
We
do
not
have
36
hours
between
rain
events
during
our
rainy
season
and
sometimes
during
the
wet
weather
so
many
months
throughout
the
year
there
will
be
water
of
some
sort.
Not
only
do
we
need
to
think
ahead
with
standing
water
with
the
lodges,
residence
and
children
in
the
neighborhood.
We
need
to
think
about
the
pesky
mosquitoes
which
come
with
rainy
season
and
with
standing
water.
C
C
Shayne
Searer
city
permits
for
events
I
am
curious
on
why
there
is
a
planned
event
this
Friday.
Actually
this
will
also
come
up
today.
According
to
your
last
highlights
from
the
City
Council
you
reported
here
is
a
partial
list
of
some
upcoming
area
events.
The
city
has
stopped
issuing
event
permits
for
the
time
being
until
such
time
as
it
is
determined
that
group
functions
are
safe
for
the
public.
So
for
now
all
events
on
city
properties
are
now
canceled
or
postponed.
So
I
assume
the
city
will
be
issuing
permits
for
events.
C
C
A
A
A
A
C
Kunik
CRA
director:
this
is
the
status
report
for
June,
this
municipal,
marina,
pretty
consistent
the
community
room,
we
stopped
bookings
and
now
we
can
probably
start
rebooking
based
on
social,
distancing
and
number
of
folks
allowed.
So
we'll
talk
to
the
dock
master
about
possible
future
bookings
with
restrictions
and
the
the
pump
out
vessel
activity.
We
had
some
numbers
switched
around
from
Florida
vessels
and
non
Florida
vessels,
so
we
put
him
back
in
their
proper
place.
D
E
C
C
A
E
E
A
C
A
F
E
C
A
G
We
took
from
the
last
of
June
LeBeau
urban
design
manager.
What
we
took
from
the
last
meeting
was
to
put
the
scope
together
and
come
back
with
you
with
the
information
once
we
receive
it,
it
would
be
a
design-build
contract
and
we
would
be.
We
can
share
that
with
you
once
we
have
something
to
show
you,
so
you
can
see
what
they're
proposing
that
was
our
understanding.
Okay,.
G
C
A
I
would
just
the
question:
I
had
was
really
what
it
just
says,
proposed
water
features
and
I
said:
well,
that's
fine
and
then,
when
I
said
well,
we
have
a
solicitation
package,
it's
like
well,
we
must
have
some
kind
of
detail
or
something
that
we're
using
to
base
a
bit
on.
But
from
what
Joan
has
explained,
it's
more
of
a
maybe.
G
What
you're
looking
will
be
included
and
right
with
that,
because
we
we
don't
know
what
could
be
placed
and
then
we
don't
have
the
ability
to
know
that
information
ahead
of
time.
There's
nobody
who
knows
Park
placement
and
park
facilities
like
that,
so
what
we
would
do
would
contact
them,
have
them
prepare
the
design
and
then
from
that
design
we
can
work
with
it
on
how
Council
wants
to
present.
So.
A
C
Carol
quartz
Center:
we
still
have
the
openelec
former
pedelec
place
that
we
will
be
hosting
a
sign
and
advertising
the
listing
for
that.
The
tenants
are
back,
except
for
one
other
side.
Inc
still
has
not
been
able
to
open,
so
they
have
had
no
income
for
most
of
March,
all
of
April,
all
of
May
and
now
June.
So
we've
been
working
with
them.
The
other
tenants
some
are
have
no
issues,
they
vote.
C
C
C
E
A
A
E
H
We
could
get
going
on
the
water
park.
I
get
calls
and
and
comments
about
this
all
the
time
that
this
would
have
been
the
perfect
time
to
be
able
to
work
on
it.
Well,
the
children
weren't
allowed
to
play
in
the
playground
anyway
in
I
wish
there
were
some
way
to
speed
it
up.
I
realized
there
isn't,
but
just
saying
I,
just.
I
Share
one
thing:
just
in
regard
to
the
times
ringing,
I
want
to
say
that,
as
we
reflect
on
the
murders
of
George
Floyd,
this
moment
highlights
the
importance
of
the
role
of
local
government
and
establishing
our
culture
community.
The
organizational
culture
of
local
government
must
meet
the
obligation
to
end
amiss
and
responsibility
to
create
the
best
possible
environment
for
all
their
citizens
thrive.
I
Local
governors
must
be
dynamic
and
courageous,
and
it
always
must
support
action
that
serves
the
best
long-term
interest
of
population
not
succumb
to
governing
based
on
just
conforming
to
perceive
populated
they're
bad
witches
over
long-term
interest
of
community
in
this
regard
is
a
good
time
that
we
as
a
community
who
reflect
on
the
exceptional
history
of
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda
and
how
it
stood
apart
as
a
model
of
community.
Despite
what
may
have
been
happening,
other
parts
of
the
country,
Punta
Gorda,
can
be
easily
described
as
the
town
to
unity
built
for
our
beginnings.
I
We've
been
a
true
community
one
where
we've
held
each
other,
not
to
high
account
the
popularity
held
views.
They
were
contrary
to
the
best
interest
of
our
community.
We
did
not
practice
them.
Our
narrative
was
conceived
in
a
manner
that
defied
the
conventional
wisdom
at
the
time
during
the
time
of
Jim
Crow
and
the
ascent,
a
new
southern
town
was
created
from
the
untamed
wild
by
the
combined
efforts
of
men
of
European
African
descent.
I
The
future
governor
of
Florida
Albert
Gilchrist
assembled
a
team
of
surveyors
a
white
and
seven
black
to
bring
Henry
plants
railroad
to
Bartow
the
open,
Punta
Gorda
for
trade.
Certainly
after
the
first
passenger
train
arrived
in
July
of
1886
daniel
Smith,
one
of
the
African
American
surveyors
organized
the
first
religious
service
in
our
town.
Our
first
service
were
just
held
in
a
chicky
on
the
site,
became
Bethel
African
Methodist
Church
was
a
combined
Jewish
and
Christian
religious
service
reflecting
the
unity
of
our
community's
religious
diversity.
I
A
literal
city
of
African
American
craftsmen
built
Henry
plants,
Grand
Hotel
in
1887
for
African
American
men
were
among
the
incorporators
of
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda
in
1880,
an
african-american
man,
Robert
Meachem,
former
state
senator
and
one
of
the
authors
of
the
Florida
Constitution,
a
man
responsible
for
public
education
in
Florida
was
elected
to
be
our
postmaster.
Despite
the
legalization
de
facto
segregation
and
racial
violence
allowed
by
communities
throughout
the
south
and
the
north.
At
at
time,
Punta
Gorda
was
creating
its
own
destiny.
I
The
early
residents,
Aparna
Gorda,
having
jointly
built,
will
be
called
what
was
called
the
grande
Bella
Florida
by
the
1890s
from
pure
wilderness.
Parnell
order
was
a
manifestation
of
unity.
Pardo
was
able
to
prosper
and
survive.
Economic
downturns
to
to
is
diversify
the
economic
base,
exporting
cattle
phosphate,
pineapples
bulbs,
strong
fishing
industry
and
robust
tourist
economy.
In
being
the
quintessential
balance
of
old
Florida,
Gulf,
Coast,
living
and
seasonal
residents,
we
remain
loyal
to
our
unified
inception
as
one
community,
our
connection
with
their
environment
and
Glenn
and
Noble
to
visitors
and
new
residents.
I
As
long
as
this
balance
has
been
maintained,
we
have
thrived,
though
the
civil
rights
era
did
not
provide
the
vote
from
an
African
Americans
into
season.
2
1964
Punta
Gorda
is
African
Americans,
not
only
co-founded
the
city
and
served
in
high
office,
but
we're
also
in
the
voting
rolls
from
the
early
nineteen
hundreds
of
not
earlier.
This
is,
despite
that,
legalized
and
de
facto
segregation
directed
towards
the
African
American
community
and
other
processed
South
in
the
northern
cities.
I
This
president
was
able
to
ensure
residents
jobs
when
most
of
the
country
was
going
hungry
during
the
Depression.
What
this
said,
not
everything
was
rosy,
because
Punta
Gorda
did
have
to
conform
with
Jim
Crow
to
a
degree
did
not
violate
state
law.
It
was
not
practice.
Socialization
at
residence,
Punta
Gorda
never
had
segregated
neighborhoods
and
African
American
business
was
always
located
downtown
when
our
parent
has
determined
that
segregated
schools
had
forced
on
us
had
gone
long
enough.
They
desegregated
miss
Cassie,
Baker
and
others
organized
the
plan
to
integrate
Charlotte
high
school
and
executed
it.
I
We
never
had
to
have
a
court
order
to
desegregate
our
schools.
We
addressed
it
ourselves.
We
as
planning
Guardians,
have
always
governed
ourselves
responsibly.
We've
never
used
the
excuse
of
public
and
sent
to
deny
our
people
the
opportunity
in
the
right
to
live
the
best
life
possible.
It's
important
to
local
government
remembers
it's
not
only
a
polling
body,
simply
making
decisions
based
on
what's
perceived
as
popular,
but
rather
representative,
the
long-term
best
interest
of
the
community.
I
It's
only
when
we
forget
to
forget
our
obligation
to
protecting
our
future,
the
remembering
our
past,
the
pathological
organizational
cultures
can
develop
investor
eating
at
community
ponds,
eventually
the
leading
to
disaster
and
reflecting
on
this
moment
in
our
nation,
and
this
example
of
terrible
failure
of
local
governance.
It's
time
for
us
to
remember
how
blessed
our
community
is
and
why
it
is
so
blessed.
We
live
in
such
a
wonderful
community
with
such
a
good
government
staff
because
we're
committed
to
each
other.
A
J
K
Good
morning,
Lisa
Hannon
for
the
record
zoning
official
and
this
required.
This
is
the
second
required
reading
of
the
ordinance
EPO
219
to
amend
city's
future
land
use
map
to
reflect
the
future
land
use
designation
as
medium
density
residential
and
apply
all
provisions
of
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
to
the
subject:
properties,
261
500
and
Jolicoeur
road
to
604,
1,
kunio
Road,
and
to
602
1
kunio
Road
at
its
March
18th
meeting
City
Council
approved
the
first
reading
of
the
ordinance,
along
with
the
transmittal
of
C
po2.
K
The
proposed
expedited
state
review
comprehensive
plan
amendment
to
the
Department
of
Economic,
Opportunity
and
applicable.
Reviewing
agencies.
D
EO
had
no
comments
on
the
proposed
amendment.
Technical
assistant
comments
received
from
Southwest
Florida
Water
Management
District
in
the
Florida
Department
of
Transportation
determined.
K
The
proposed
amendment
has
no
significant
adverse
impacts
on
transportation
resources
or
facilities
and
will
not
form
a
basis
for
a
challenge
based
on
an
email
received
yesterday,
June
2nd
from
Charles
Pablo's,
our
interim
utilities
director
the
utility
issue
for
the
project
has
been
resolved
pursuant
to
section
160
3.3
184,
Florida
Statutes,
the
ordinance
shall
become
effective
31
days
after
the
state
land
planning
agency
notifies
the
local
government
that
the
planned
amendment
package
is
complete.
If
timely
challenged,
an
amendment
does
not
become
effective
until
the
state
land
planning
agency
or
the
administration
Commission.
A
A
K
Again
good
morning,
Lisa
Hannon
zoning
official
for
the
record,
and
this
is
the
required
second
reading,
of
the
ordinance
for
PDO
319
to
rezone
the
property
at
261
500
Angelica
Road
604,
one
kunio
Road
into
602
on
kunio
Road
from
residential
single-family
5
units
per
acre
to
a
plan
development
neighborhood
at
its
March
18th
meeting
City
Council
approved
the
first
reading
of
the
ordinance
and
the
accompanying
comprehensive
plan.
Amendment
which
was
just
approved,
was
approved
for
trans
the
same
meeting
and
this
ordinance
for
the
plan.
K
A
Been
a
motion
in
a
second
to
approve
PD
0,
3,
1
9,
all
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
all
right.
Those
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
Excellent,
congratulations!
A
lot
of
know.
A
lot
of
work
has
gone
into
this
by
a
number
of
people
and
thank
you
chuck
for
helping
us
work
through
all
these
issues.
Appreciate
it
greatly
all
right
move
on
to
B.
You
have
no
ordinances,
the
consent
agenda.
A
A
N
M
M
So
we
have
our
utilities
construction
pro
forma
for
fiscal
year
21
through
25,
we
have
summarized
for
just
total
costs
and
then
the
various
funding
sources
for
the
projects.
So
we
did
try
to
list
out
for
you
the
projects
that
are
using
water
impacts,
our
sewer
impacts
like
which
projects
they
are
contributing
to,
and
we
also
included
estimated
grants
or
estimated
financing
for
certain
projects,
such
as
the
septic
sewer
and
the
wastewater
treatment,
plant,
expansion
and
I
do
want
to
preface
to
say
that
this
is
our
current
pro
forma.
M
We
are
working
with
a
rate
consultant
currently,
so
we'll
have
a
rate
study
that
you
know
may
affect
water
usage
water
rates,
but
at
this
time,
they're
this,
these
pro
formers,
are
built
with
our
current
rates.
M
Any
questions
on
the
pro
forma
okay,
so
we
do
want
to
show
you
our
various
projects
that
are
in
utilities
and
as
per
our
financial
policy,
we
do
generally
put
1.1
2
million
towards
repair
and
replacements
of
our
structures
for
rehabilitation.
So
we
do
have
an
aging
system,
so
we
fund
those
with
current
revenues
to
fund
those
projects.
M
Then
we
have
our
various
projects
and
we'll
start
with
our
wastewater
projects,
and
we
we
did
provide
all
the
detail
sheets
for
all
our
projects.
So
if
you
have
any
questions
on
any
of
those,
we
can
go
over
those
as
well.
We
did
include
the
subject
of
sewer
area,
one
starting
at
fiscal
year,
2021
for
the
design
that
will
tell
us
which
type
of
project
we
should
move
forward
with.
So
we
currently
use
the
numbers
of
the
gravity
sewer,
because
that
is
what
the
recommended
recommendation
was
previously
under
the
master
plan.
M
However,
we
will
look
at
that
again
and
determine
if
that
really
is
the
best
option
or
if
we
should
use
a
different
option,
so
the
capital
costs
may
go
down,
annual
cost
may
go
up
again.
It
just
depends
on
which
type
of
system
we
end
on
designing
and
going
with
and
the
same
thing
for
area
two.
So
again,
on
the
previous
pro
forma,
we
showed
how
we
were
funding
that
with
either
grants
partial
grants
upon
we
estimated
25
percent
and
the
rest
was
financing
using.
M
That
would
be
covered
by
assessments
and
user
fees
for
the
developed
Lots.
We
did
do
the
assessment
on
all
Lots
so
whether
they
were
developed
or
undeveloped
to
make
the
project
work
wastewater
projects,
the
wastewater
treatment,
plant
tank
coating.
Normally
these
show
up
like
every
few
years,
but
they
do
need
to
do
some
major
tank
coating
projects
right
now.
M
So
there's
four
hundred
thousand
in
fiscal
year,
twenty
one
and
twenty
twenty
two
we
have
the
permit
renewals
and
the
mechanical
integrity
tests
and
those
are
every
five
years
and
even
though
they're
not
capital
projects,
we
put
them
here
because
we
don't
want
them
to
forget
to
include
them
as
a
part
of
our
costs.
So
if
they
were
in
the
Performa,
sometimes
they
kind
of
get
lost.
So
we
do
put
them
here,
noting
no,
knowing
we'll
move
them
back
as
a
regular
expense,
wastewater
treatment,
plant
improvement.
M
Again
we
have
the
project
in
there
and
was
using
financing
for
fiscal
years.
22
and
23
were
cash
funding
it
through
fiscal
year,
2021,
Henry,
Street
forced
me
and
replacement
crossing
at
I-75.
This
project
was
started
and
this
year
for
having
money
for
design
and
permitting
with
construction
scheduled
for
fiscal
year
2021
and
the
Henry
Street
forced
main
replacement
on
1,200,000
any
questions.
Yes,
Christian.
D
M
M
E
M
M
We
have
our
water
projects
and
again
a
lot
of
these
you
may
have
seen
before
some
are
new,
but
the
Hendrix
and
dam
inspection
and
maintenance.
Again
we
do
inspections
and
have
sometimes
have
repairs
that
are
needed
every
two
years.
So
if
the
funds
aren't
spent
or
not
spent
the
fully,
we
carry
it
over
in
case
there's
a
larger
repair.
We
have
the
tank
tank
coding
project.
They
had
budgeted
two
hundred
thousand
for
this
year
to
do
that
project.
However,
when
they
went
out
to
bid
it
came
in
a
lot
higher.
M
So
that's
why
they're
requesting
an
additional
three
hundred
thousand
for
next
year,
we
have
our
new
RO
water
use.
Permit,
that's
required.
They
are
starting
that
this
year
with
ninety
thousand
and
they
need
an
additional
90
thousand
next
year,
the
minimum
flow
levels,
evaluation
and
recovery
plan.
Again,
that's
a
new
project
based
on
new
guidance
and
regulations
that
are
in
place.
M
So
they
have
started
that
this
year
with
a
hundred
thousand
and
will
need
an
additional
hundred
thousand
next
year
to
complete
that
project,
the
reverse
osmosis
operations,
engineering
services
they
have
180
thousand
scheduled
between
2021
and
2022.
This
project
is
to
look
at
the
best
optical
use
between
the
two
plants,
so
the
RO
and
the
base
plan
because,
as
its
new
they're
gonna
have
to
figure
out
what
what
are
the
optimal
levels-
the
LM
storage
tanks
replacement
in
fiscal
year
2022
for
800,000
I've
got
the
burnt
story.
M
Road
booster
station,
that
was
to
add
some
I,
believe
it
was
pumps,
they're,
three
million
dollars
again
the
reverse
osmosis
Brian
disposal.
Well,
mechanical
testing
and
permit
renewal
are
every
five
years
carbon
slurry
system
replacement.
That's
in
a
million
in
fiscal
year,
2025
Taylor,
Road
water
main
replacement,
upgrade
ten
inch
to
a
twelve
inch.
So
this
project
did
start
for
design.
In
this
year
of
250,000,
with
construction
scheduled
for
fiscal
year,
2021,
the
cilona
water
main
replacement
was
scheduled
to
begin
design.
This
year
they
weren't
able
to
start
it,
so
those
funds
will
carry
over.
M
A
A
resident
asked
me
a
question,
or
it
was
really
paying
attention.
They
actually
adding
up
all
the
columns
mm-hmm,
and
so
they
were
saying
that
the
columns
the
numbers
add
up
under
the
water
project
total
they
don't
necessarily
add
a
cross,
and
so
they
were
looking
for
everything
to
tie
together.
And
so
when
you
look
at
the
Henderson,
it's.
M
M
Yeah
yeah,
so
the
ones
where
we
have
the
the
years,
but
the
total
project
costs
again
was
more
of
a
information
online.
So
you
could
see
the
totals,
but
that
one
just
like
on
the
first
couple
slides
if
I
go
back,
we
don't
put
the
prior
year's
funding
in,
but
we
try
and
show
what
we
do
yearly
so
yeah.
A
M
Yes,
we're
very
busy
so
now
we'll
move
into
the
operations
fund.
So
again
we
have
our
preliminary
operating
revenues.
That's
our
water
and
sewer
charges.
Our
current
rates
you'll
see
totals
for
the
transfer
for
water
and
wastewater
impacts
and
those
are
for
debt
service
and
fiscal
year.
21
I
believe,
though,
the
final
payment
for
reimbursing
on
the
filtration
project
that
we
had
done
before
when
we
didn't
have
enough
impacts.
That's
the
final
payment,
the
operations
fund
in
there,
then
we
included
the
increase
of
the
wastewater
Billings
for
subject
to
sewer.
M
Those
of
that
would
be
for
area
one
because
they
should
be
on
line
starting
in
fiscal
year
2024.
It
might
have
to
be
moved
out
one
year
depending
on
when
and
2024
it
was
finished.
But
again
this
is
a
Performa
and
then
our
annual
assessments
septic
to
sewer.
We
would
start
our
assessments
when
we
want
it
to
start
construction.
So
that's
why
it's
currently
projected
for
fiscal
year
2022
and
then
it
goes
up
in
fiscal
year
2025
for
area
two,
then
you
have
you
see
our
various
operating
expenditures.
M
Again,
that's
personnel
and
operating
the
renewal
and
replacement
of
infrastructure.
That's
our
cash
funded
line
and
I
do
want
to
just
point
out
why
22
and
23
are
a
little
bit
lower.
That
is
because,
for
the
rest
of
the
filtration
project,
the
next
two
years
will
go
right
into
fund
4
11,
because
4
11
had
used
some
funds
to
to
help
with
that
project
as
well
and
when
I
say
4
11,
that's
the
construction
fund,
I'm.
So
sorry.
A
M
Yes,
sorry,
then,
the
transfer
to
utilities
construction
again
these
will
be
the
cash
funded
projects.
What
we're
using
and
then
existing
debt
service.
We
have
our
final
payment
on
one
of
our
old
srf
loans
in
fiscal
year
21
and
that's
why
you'll
see
that
decrease
of
the
reserve?
So
that's
the
last
year
of
making
that
payment
and
then
the
new
debt
service
on
the
RO
plant
is
in
there
again.
Those
are
still
estimated
numbers,
we're
still
finishing
up
the
RO
when
we
finish
it.
M
Even
though
it's
on
the
srf
line,
that
reserve
could
be
for
whoever
we
use
for
financing,
whether
it's
a
bank
or
bonds
or
srf,
so
usually
it'll
be
some
requirements
to
have
a
reserve
as
well,
and
then
we
show
you
your
beginning
and
ending
operating
reserves,
staying
with
our
financial
policy
of
3.1
million,
and
then
we
do
have
the
R
in
our
capital
reserve
for
emergencies
or
any
other
type
of
restrictions
that
might
be
needed.
If
we
do
a
bond
debt
servicing
any
questions,
there
is.
M
No,
the
bonds
would
be
like
if
we
were
trying
to
finance
the
wastewater
treatment,
plant
expansion
or
the
the
septic
just
sewer,
but
probably
most
likely
they'll
wastewater
treatment
plant.
If
we
chose
to
go
that
route.
M
So,
even
though
we've
kind
of
talked
about
these,
as
I
went
through
the
perform
on
again
there's
no
rate
increase
scheduled
for
fiscal
year,
2021
to
through
2025
in
this
pro
forma,
however,
we
do
have
the
rate
study
underway,
for
we
do
SME
half
a
percent
growth
each
year
again,
sometimes
some
years,
it's
more
some
years,
little
less.
We
talked
about
the
additional
wastewater
revenues
from
septa
to
sewer
conversion
customers.
M
We've
kind
of
gone
over
these
before
operating
we're
per
departmental
requests
and
again
they
were
trying
to
stay
within
the
same
guidelines
as
the
general
fund
as
trying
to
keep
it
flat,
except
for
maybe
some
specific
items
and
increasing
such
as
needs
for
the
RO.
A
plant
chemical
cause
things
like
that
and
then
capital
outlay
was
per
departmental
request.
M
And
so
some
other
considerations
when
we
are
looking
at
our
pro
formas
again,
there's
sometimes
volatility
in
our
water
revenues
and
wastewater
revenues,
not
so
much
on
the
wastewater
side,
because
we
do
have
the
cap
as
far
as
for
single-family
residential.
It's
capped
at
ten,
ten
thousand
gallons
so,
but
for
the
water
rainfall,
drought,
conditions,
watering
restrictions,
economic
conditions
can
impact
our
revenues.
M
In
the
past,
we've
had
some
watering
restrictions
that
really
reduced
it
back
in
2008
and
2009.
We
saw
a
lot
of
people
trying
not
to
water
as
much
as
mas,
because
that's
something
that
was
under
their
control
during
the
economic
downturn.
Things
like
that
and
again
our
assumptions
for
financing
the
wastewater
treatment.
Plant
expansion
are
dependent
upon
the
use
of
current
reserves
through
full
design,
an
engineering
phase
and
also
their
debt
service
ratios
that
may
be
required
by
whichever
financing
entity
we
choose
to
use.
M
Again
on
subject
to
sewer,
we
chose
to
SME
grant
revenues
at
25
percent
if
that
were
lower,
that
might
affect
our
perform
on
and
we're
doing,
assessments
on
all
Lots
in
the
area.
New
billing
revenues
are
on
occupied
Lots
and
then
use
of
wastewater
impact
fees
and
debt
service
ratios
again
that
may
be
required
by
the
financing
entity.
E
N
H
Constituent
ask
me:
it
looks
like
we're
really
going
into
debt
for
our
water
projects.
Do
we
have
a
camp
like
like?
Should
we
be
thinking?
Do
we
want
to
expand
or
rebuild
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
versus
the
septic
to
sewer?
Do
we
are
we
okay
to
be
doing
both
of
those
really
big
projects
when
we're
gonna
have
to
incur
debt
with
our
uncertain
economic
times,
I
had
Ryan
so.
M
Srs
loans
are
also
a
good
option,
because
they're
very
low
interest
rate
it
is,
it
is
fairly
normal.
Some
issue
new
debt
almost
every
year,
some
utilities-
you
know
it's
like
they
don't
even
do
a
lot
of
cash
funding
of
their
projects.
They
spread
it
over
the
the
terms,
but
some
of
these
projects
are
growth
related.
So
the
wastewater
treatment
explan
expansion
is
growth
related.
So
we
hope
that
will
continue
to
grow
and
be
able
to
cover
all
those
debt
services
and-
and
we
do
project
that
we
would.
H
I
E
A
Are
a
lot
of
other
forces
at
play
other
than
just
us
making
decisions?
The
wastewater
treatment
plant
is
because
we
hit
a
threshold,
and
so
FDEP
is
forcing
at
that
hand.
The
other
one
is
through
our
involvement
with
the
the
committee
at
the
Florida
League
of
Cities
on
the
let's
see
whether
it's
a
long
name
utilities,
natural
resources
and
something
other
I'll
to
do
with
water
and
there's
a
lot
going
on
at
the
state
level
regarding
water
and
the
the
conversion
from
septic
to
sewer
near
near.
O
A
P
N
Another
issue
is
like
at
the
wastewater
plant
if
the
flow
is
get
to
a
point
that
we're
not
properly
treating
it.
We
reject
the
ponds.
Well.
That
then
goes
back
to
the
front
of
the
plant
and
goes
through
the
plant
again,
not
very
cost-effective.
So
just
getting
the
plant
up
to
regulatory
requirements
and
capacity
issues
will
help
actually
save
some
money
in
how
we're
processing
I'm.
H
Not
questioning
anything
that
you're
proposing
because
I'm,
probably
one
of
the
biggest
proponents
of
septic
to
sewer
in
the
state.
My
question
is
for
us
to
keep
raising
our
debt.
That's
the
only
thing
that
that
I
think
we're
you
some
people,
and
you
know
we
still
have
got
to
do
a
major
educational
program
on
the
fact
that
Charlotte
Harbor
is
County,
but
that
they
are
our
utility
users,
because
I
can't
tell
you
how
much
I
hear.
Why
are
we
going?
Why
are
we
doing
this?
E
M
There
I
do
want
to
mention
to
an
acceptance
where
there
is
a
portion
of
the
project,
that
is
the
city
part
the
transmission
lines,
so
if
I
think
was
the
transitional
II
and
so
that
part
would
be
funded
by
the
the
city,
but
that
would
be
like
with
any
of
our
projects.
So
I
just
want
to
point
that
part
out.
So
there's
a
little
piece.
That's
still,
you
know
part
of
our
own
utility
system.
M
The
other
thing
I
want
to
mention
too,
is
we
are
one
of
the
lowest
rates
within
you
know
our
area,
and
when
we
do
look
at
these
projects,
yes,
sometimes
rates
may
have
to
increase
a
little
bit.
You
know
so
when
we
do
take
on
debt.
That's
part
of
why
we're
doing
the
rate
study
is
to
look
at
that
and
we
may
have
to
raise
our
rates
a
little
bit,
but
whether
it's
now
or
a
future
year,
you
know
we
continue
to
look
at
that.
L
M
Q
M
Growth
is
a
little
higher
than
expected.
So
again,
there's
the
one
thing
we
know
about
budgeting,
we're
never
gonna,
be
exactly
right
so
and
when
we
were
doing
the
RO
project
back
way
back
when
before
it
got
put
on
hold,
we
had
a
pro
forma
with
certain
assumptions
and
then
everything
changed
the
next
year
and
you
know-
and
we
had
a
like
change.
Well,
what
are
we
gonna
do
now?
How
are
we
gonna
look
at
that,
so
so
things
change
as
we
go
through
the
years
and
that's
why
it's
just
a
Performa?
M
This
the
utility
advisory
board
for
their
review
and,
of
course,
they
recommended.
We
continue
moving
it
on
to
Council.
One
of
the
questions
was
well.
How
is
co
the
19
affecting
the
water
revenues
in
your
projections,
and
currently
we
have
not
seen
any
decreases
if
anything,
we've
seen
a
little
bit
of
an
uptick,
some
of
it
might
be,
the
rainfall
was
a
little
late,
starting,
but
again
people
are
at
home
and
they're
using
it,
and
people
are
washing
a
little.
You
know
washing
their
hands
more.
E
D
N
You
don't
mind
and
there's
a
lot
of
questions
about
the
RO
plan.
If
I
may
I
get
for
just
a
quick
update,
we're
getting
close
Construction
is
basically
complete.
We
got
some
just
minor
things
changing
in
a
few
of
the
chemical
pumps
how
to
change
out
some
membranes
they
weren't
performing
properly,
but
we're
in
what
called
startup
mode
so
we're
actually
in
a
test
mode.
There's
a
there's,
a
lot
of
controls,
there's
a
lot
of
indicators,
there's
a
lot
of
sensors.
N
N
So
we've
got
to
work
all
those
bugs
out
before
we
can
send
the
motor
out
to
the
community
we're
actually
running
water
through
the
membranes
right
now
that
water's
not
going
into
the
distribution
system
yet,
but
we're
doing
testing
we
have
to
keep
the
membranes
wet
once
we
load
them
and
we're
getting
very
close.
All
the
chemical
feeds
have
been
installed
now
all
the
chemicals
and
we're
feeding
chemicals
now
so
they'll
be
looking
at
the
water
quality.
That's
coming
out
making
sure
again,
all
the
sensors
are
talking
to
the
computer
correctly,
we're
putting
it
through.
N
You
know
different
phases
and
then
we're
looking
at
the
blending
to
see
how
we're
going
to
blend
the
two
plans.
We
actually
have
three
sources
of
water
because
we
have
the
Peace
River
Authority
water
that
comes
in
will
be
coming
in
also
into
the
plant.
So
we've
got
a
three-way
blend.
We're
gonna
have
to
determine
the
best
way
to
do
that
and
the
proper
amounts
of
each
before
we
go
into
the
distribution
system.
I'm
very
optimistic
that
before
the
end
of
the
month,
we'll
be
putting
water
into
the
distribution
system.
We'll
keep
an
update.
Thank.
A
A
That
would
be
awesome.
Yeah,
as
residents
are
really
they're,
really
excited
about
it.
Some
residents
have
and
to
the
extent
that
you're,
like
you
just
said,
looking
at
what
what
the
blending
is
going
to
be
I
mean
some
residents
have
have
already
stated
that
it's
going
to
be
a
50/50
blend
and
it's
I've
said
no.
No,
it's
that
could
vary
by
the
day.
Goodvery.
N
L
N
A
R
Morning
and
I
know
procurement.
The
request
that
you
have
before
you
has
two
components
for
your
consideration.
The
first
one
is
the
Master
Agreement
approval
to
Hans
Wilson
&
Associates,
the
top
ranked
firm
for
a
master
agreement
for
permitting
services
for
the
cities
waterway
assets.
We
do
have
some
permitting
permits
that
will
be
coming
due
in
2021
in
2022.
The
second
component
is
specific
authorization
number
one
which
is
the
Ponce
Inlet
widening
the
design
and
permitting
that
is
a
not
to
exceed
cost
of
ninety
two
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars.
R
The
department
is
requesting
a
contingency
budget
of
nine
thousand
three
hundred
dollars
for
a
total
of
102
thousand
one
hundred
dollars.
The
condition
the
contingency
budget
shall
be
used
for
permitting
issues
are
unforeseen,
so
we're
requesting
your
approval
for
the
Master
Agreement
and
specific
authorization
number
one.
The
department
is
here
to
an
attack
and
it's
there
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
A
Would
be
great
if
you
could
give
us
a
summary
of
the
project,
cuz
I
as
I.
Look
at
this
I'm
trying
to
understand
how
the
punic
or
dials
can
allied
by
a
canal
Advisory
Committee
processes.
Projects
like
these
versus
I
know
how
the
very
intimately,
how
the
burn
store
aisles,
Canal,
Advisory
Committee,
works,
these
projects
and
and
because
we
are
yes,
a
much
smaller
community.
A
S
Okay,
so
as
far
back
as
I
can
remember,
there's
always
been
comments
and
complaints
about
the
Ponce
de
Leon
channel,
the
it's
not
specific
to
this
most
recent
one,
but
as
far
back
as
I
can
remember,
the
channel
at
the
bottom
is
is
20
feet
wide
so
and
then
it
slopes
back
so
typically
in
the
winter
months
summer
months,
the
tides
are
much
higher,
so
there
are
not
usually
a
lot
of
complaints,
but
in
the
winter
time
there
are
numerous
complaints
because
the
the
water
is
so
low.
You
get
to
larger
boats
trying
to
pass.
S
At
the
same
time,
one
of
the
boats
gets
out
of
the
channel
and
they
hit
bottom.
So
so
it's
it's
a
reoccurring
complaint
the
canal
advisory
board,
the
Ponte
grouse
can
Advisory
Board
had
heard
this.
This
goes
back
to
2018
and
in
2018
they
had
directed
staff
to
to
go
ahead
and
budget
to
look
at
permitting
widening
the
Ponce
de
Leon
channel.
S
When
we
first
budgeted
for
this
we're
used
to
before
prior
to
2018
the
economy
is
a
little
slower.
You
could
hire
a
consultant
much
much
cheaper,
so
we
originally
only
budgeted
$25,000
for
consultant
to
look
at
permitting
way
under
budget.
So
we've
increased
the
budget.
We
have
the
funds,
we
we
budgeted
twenty
five
thousand
and
eighteen
and
then
we
budgeted
ninety
1019.
So
the
the
funds
have
been
budgeted
and
have
been
approved
for
the
for
the
consultant
to
to
get
the
permit.
S
So
that
is
why
the
price
is
increased.
Well,
we
used
to
get
for
twenty
five,
thirty
thousand
as
closer
to
a
hundred
down,
so
we
went
out
for
a
consultant
because
we
couldn't
come
to
terms
with
the
other
one
Hans
Wilson.
We
went
through
the
process.
He
was
ranked
the
highest
for
the
Master
Agreement.
S
So
I
will
explain
the
Master
Agreement
we
got
as
Ann
said,
we
have
a
lot
of
permits
just
to
do
our
normal
business
have
to
be
renewed
and
we
need
help
getting
those
permits.
What
was
easy
to
permit
many
years
ago.
You
know
the
list
we've
been
through
Buckley
Pass
and
you
know
all
the
permits
we
have
to
get
and
agencies.
S
So
we
need
the
Master
Agreement
as
a
base
just
to
help
us
renew
expiring
permanence,
but
in
and
then
in
this
Agreement
authorization.
One
is
to
proceed
with
looking
at
widening
the
Ponce
de
Leon
channel
and
deepening
it.
Possibly
we
don't
know
yet
what
will
be
allowed
until
we
get
a
consultant
to
talk
to
DEP
talked
to
the
Corps,
see
what
they're
gonna
allow
and
that's
what's
before.
You
today
is
not
to
let
the
project
to
be
widened.
It's
just
to
number
one
renew
the
renew
our
dredging
permit
for
Ponce
de
Leon.
S
That
expires
in
22
20
22,
as
well
as
look
at
looking
at
getting
a
permit
to
widen
it
or
deepen
it.
Possibly
we
don't
know
what
they're
gonna
allow
us
to
do.
If
anything
they
may
not.
Maybe
something
they
don't
even
allow
the
staff
was
asked
to
look
at
that
and
explore
it,
and
that's
what's
before
you
today
is
the
the
general
agreement,
as
well
as
authorization
to
look
at
whitening
deepening
reports.
H
Number
of
people
live
in
the
Isles
I
talked
to
some
people
from
the
county
board.
Isles.
The
marine
advisory
board
I
also
spoke
with
a
lot
of
people
who
are
very
concerned
that
if
we
keep
this
up,
we're
gonna
have
the
reputation
of
being
the
city
that
hates
mangroves
and
I
think
we
need
to
stop
and
find
out
what
we
can
do
to
fix.
What's
really
the
problem
and
the
problem
is
that
it's
too
shallow?
H
It's
not
that
it's
not
wide
enough,
especially
now
with
Buckley
pass
when
you've
started
on
this
Buckley
Pass
was
I
cross,
our
fingers
and
hope
it
gets
done.
I
have
been
in
and
out
of
that
multiple
times,
and
even
when
a
really
wide
boat
comes
across
another
really
wide
boat.
The
problem
isn't
that
the
pass
is
too
narrow.
It's
that
it's
too
shallow,
close
to
where
the
pass
actually
ends.
D
This
is
all
of
a
sudden,
this
kind
of
showed
up
on
our
agenda
and
this
council.
This
current
council
has
not
had
an
opportunity
to
discuss
this.
This
may
be
something
that
was
discussed
in
previous
councils,
but
we
have
newer
members
of
council
that
never
had
a
voice
in
this
I
talked
to
at
least
three
dozen
people
about
this,
and
many
of
the
emails
that
Howard
read
into
the
record
this
morning
were
emails
that
I
personally
received
asking
about
this
and
asking
us
why
we
are
moving
forward
with
this
I
tried
to
explain.
D
You
know
that
there's
some
history
behind
this
and
so
forth,
but
I
honestly,
have
to
say,
with
the
opening
of
Buckley's,
pass,
that,
to
a
certain
extent,
this
isn't
going
to
be
necessary.
I
agree
with
Debbie
I
think
that
we
need
to
square
off
the
bottom
of
the
channel
and
dredge
it
so
that
it
stays
a
little
bit
more
easily.
D
Traveling
wise
for
boats
and
I
personally
have
a
pretty
large
boat
and
I
can
tell
you
that
I've
hit
ground
a
couple
times
going
in
and
out
of
there,
my
husband
and
I
have,
you
know,
had
many
opportunities
to
go
in
and
out
of
there
until
Buckley's
pass
was
up,
and
that
was
the
only
way
we
up
for
us
so
and
in
the
winter.
It's
you
have
to
really
schedule
your
time
in
and
out,
because
there
are
days
that
you
just
can't
get
out,
so
you
know,
do
we
need
to
dredge?
D
D
You
not
prudent
I've,
also
had
some
people
asked
me
when
we're
going
to
be
getting
the
rebate
on
Buckley's
pass.
So
you
know
if
we're
not
going
to
spend
$200,000
or
whatever
it's
going
to
be
I
mean
we're
talking
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
just
for
the
engineering
and
design
study.
What's
it
gonna
cost
to
do
the
construction
when
it
comes
time.
This
is
not
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
project.
At
this
point,
no.
S
It
would
we
estimate,
depending
what
gets,
what
would
get
permitted.
We
don't
know
what's
permitted
yet,
but
we
estimate
that
it
could
be
in
a
range
from
500,000
to
up
to
a
million
dollars
depending
what
got
permitted
you
know,
and
what
the
and
what
the
committee
and
what
the
council
would
like
to
see
done.
Okay,.
D
And
if
it
becomes
a
million
dollars,
then
who's
gonna
pay
for
it.
It's
gonna
come
out
of
the
canal,
Advisory
Committee
funds,
and
that
means
there's
gonna,
be
an
increase.
I've
also
had
people
say:
okay,
well,
the
people
that
use
Ponce
Inlet
are
the
ones
that
should
pay
for
it.
Now
that
we've
sequestered
Buckley's
pass
off
for
an
assessment
district,
that's
I've
heard
that
more
than
once
already
this
past
two
weeks,
so
I'm
just
saying
that
I
think
we
need
to
pause
on
this
I.
Don't
think
it's
time
to
do
it.
L
I
might
comment
that
the
numbers
we
saw
were
new
and
surprising.
You
sent
this
other
yes,
email
that
talks
about
up
to
a
million
dollars
and
I'm
asking.
Has
the
canal
advisor
committee
looked
at
these
new
numbers
and
should
they
should
that?
Probably,
should
we
go
through
that
process
first
to
say
now
that
we're
really
it's
not
25
and
75
per
hundred
175
anymore?
It's
now
yeah.
S
D
Only
that,
god
forbid,
we
have
another
hurricane
and
another
situation
where
we
have
sea
walls
fall
down
again
we're
talking
about
a
lot
of
money
that
might
be
having
to
be
expended
by
way
of
assessments.
I
think
we
need
to
really
take
a
pause,
what
the
economy
being
as
unstable
as
it
is
right
now,
it's
not
prudent
to
move
it
forward.
Yet,
if.
H
S
A
What
I
heard
both
Malena
and
Debbie's
say
that
it
was
the
the
top
of
the
channel?
It's
not
the
width
at
the
top.
It's
the
20
feet
at
the
bottom.
That's
the
problem
and
that
you
would
support
widening
that
at
the
bottom,
which
is
actually
widening.
That
I
think
that's
mine
too,
based
on
my
experience
with
the
burnt
star
house,
it
wasn't
the
top
it's
the
bond
that
was
causing
the
issues.
So
it's
really
wagging
that
bottom.
H
E
S
If
I
can
so
yes,
it's
flat
on
the
bottom
20
feet
and
then
it
bevels
up,
you
have
to
have
a
slope
or
the
third
just
Falls,
so
you
have
to
you
have
to
slope
it
so
again,
this
is
what
a
consultant
would
do.
Would
talk
with
DEP
in
the
Corps
and
say:
how
can
you
know?
Could
we
blight
in
the
bottom
part
that's
flat,
that's
20
feet.
Can
we
maybe
go
to
30
feet
and
then
slope
so
now,
you've
you've
widened
everything
and
then
possibly
make
it
a
little
deeper.
S
A
S
Really,
we
really
need
him
do
we
have
permits
that
are
gonna
expire
within
the
one
to
two
year
time
frame
and
we
have
to
have
those
renewed.
We
need
help
getting
those
renew
just
just
the
basic
permit,
so
we
really
need
him
to
help
us
with
that,
and
then
number
two
was
do.
We
want
to
move
forward
with
having
the
consultant
look
at
widening
the
Ponce
leon
channel,
which
was
approved
by
by
the
advisory
board
and
has
been
budgeted
that
that
that's
the
secret
part
of
it,
okay,
which
I'm.
A
S
D
S
S
Just
a
basic
maintenance
permit.
We
were
able
to
do
that
in-house,
as
I
explained
earlier,
things
have
gotten
much
more
difficult.
We
used
to
be
able
to
go
to
DEP
and
and
pretty
much
handle
things
with
them.
They
now
goes
to
the
core.
You
know:
we've
got
the
small-tooth
sawfish,
it's
it's!
It's
not
like
it
used
to
be.
We
we
I
believe
this
was
renewed.
Eight
years
ago,
things
have
changed
dramatically
in
eight
years
with
permitting.
L
S
R
R
So
if
you're
considering
allowing
the
Master
Agreement,
that
would
be
put
in
place
for
the
consultant
to
assist
the
department
and
renewing
or
obtaining
new
permits
moving
forward,
so
there
would
be
no
cost
to
that.
Currently,
the
cost
that
we're
speaking
about
is
a
an
amendment
to
that
master
agreement
for
the
widening
of
the
the
channel
of
Ponce
and
the
cost,
for
that
is
the
hundred
and
two
one
inclusive
of
the
contingency
budget.
R
So
if
you
are,
if
your
decision
is
not
to
move
forward
with
the
Ponce
Inlet,
then
we
would
not
move
forward
with
specific
authorization,
one
to
the
master
agreement.
The
department
is
requesting
that
you
consider
approval
of
the
Master
Agreement,
so
they
can
move
forward
with
their
normal
permitting
process.
L
L
A
Understanding
from
listening
that
the
the
way
this
is
worded,
it
kind
of
sounded
like
it
was
all
lumped
together,
but
I
can
see
if
you
how
you
could
read
it
differently
and
so
what
what
I'm
understanding
you're
saying
is
that
you
need
our
authorization
to
least
established
an
award
of
master
agreement
with
Hans.
It
would
be
individual
when
you
use
him
for
specific
permits
that
what
he
would
charge
for
that
that's
different.
So
with
that
so
decision
number
one.
L
A
A
I,
just
it's
two
decisions,
so
if
we
can
just
confine
our
the
for
the
moment
can
find
the
discussion
just
to
this
I
can
understand
what
work
is
saying:
it's
gotten
a
lot
more
complex
than
it
used
to
be
so
you
need
his
expertise
to
help
navigate
that
it.
In
my
mind,
the
fact
that
he
even
was
able
to
get
Buckley's
past
done
was
a
miracle
Herman
I
mean
you
know.
It
was
first
suggested.
I
said
it'll
never
get
done.
You
know
the
state
will
never
approve
this
and
he
did
it.
A
So
I
can
understand
the
complexity.
When
you
look
at
all
of
the
things
on
all
of
the
various
agencies
that
had
to
be
involved
and
I
mean
it's
like
I'm,
the
you
know,
I,
don't
know
that
we've
as
a
body
have
ever
discussed
it,
but
I,
remember
early
on
in
the
discussion
of
Buckley's,
pass
all
of
the
various
levels
of
agencies
that
he
were
cited
that
he
had
to
go
through.
E
J
N
J
H
R
Can
certainly
do
what
the
attorney
has
mentioned
to
clarify.
We
will
have
to
come
back
to
you
for
a
different,
specific
Thoros
Asian
for
the
permit
renewal
or
extension
for
your
approval,
so
we
can
defer
the
Master
Agreement
as
well,
if
that,
if
that's,
what
your
choice
is
to
come
back
to
you,
along
with
the
Master
Agreement
and
a
specific
authorization
for
the
permit
renewal,
that
will
have
to
be
negotiated
with
with
the
consultant,
and
we
can
come
back
to
you
with
both
of
those
items
so.
D
R
A
I
A
R
If
you're
more
comfortable
with
the
decision
of
just
approving
the
Master
Agreement,
we
can
come
back
to
you
without
the
language
in
the
Master
Agreement
for
specific
authorization,
so
you'll
be
just
approving
the
Master
Agreement
and
then
moving
forward.
You'll
have
the
different
specific
authorizations
being
presented
to
Council
for
your
decision.
If
you'd
like
to
do
that,
we
certainly
can
do
that
at.
D
H
A
H
A
A
O
C
C
T
D
A
Q
U
B
D
A
T
A
City
council
is
back
in
session,
so
thank
you
all
and
it
was
great
to
have
a
break
I've
been
asked.
If
we
can
move
I've
been
asked
if
we
can
move
the
item
on
America
and
bloom
up
to
the
next
agenda
item,
since
we
have
a
guest
from
Venice
here,
who's
been
waiting
all
morning.
So
if
that's
okay,
council
B,
we
do
that
before
we
get
into
the
discussion
on
the
city
manager,
candidates,
sure,
okay,
so
we
will
then
proceed
with
the
America
and
bloom
update,
good.
G
Morning
for
the
record,
Joan
LeBeau
urban
design
management
and
March
4th
of
this
year
at
the
city
council
meeting,
you
endorsed
the
efforts
of
the
America
in
bloom
group
to
move
forward
they're
here
with
their
team,
the
beginning
of
their
team,
to
explain
what
the
project
will
be
and
and
ask
your
consideration
to
move
forward
on
it
with
that
Nancy
Johnson
from
team
Punta
Gorda
will
begin.
Thank.
U
You
nancy
Johnson
from
team
photo
gorga,
we're
here
today
to
discuss
a
really
exciting
project
that
has
the
potential
to
transform
the
look
of
our
downtown.
We
are
very,
very
excited
about
this
project,
as
John
said,
we
introduced
it
to
you
several
months
ago
and
we're
now
here
to
propose
something
specific.
Many
of
the
pictures
that
you'll
see
in
Richard
Pulte
presentation
will
be
examples
of
what
Venice
has
done.
U
That
is
not
that's
a
American
bloom
website
photo,
but
many
of
the
photos
you
will
see
are
photoshopped
photos
of
hunter
gorgeous
sights
with
what
if
it
could
be
like
this,
and
we
want
you
to
know
that,
if
approved
the
proposal
that
we
have
today,
we
will
work
with
staff
around
the
specifics,
exactly
which
planter
and
exactly
which
location
today
is
a.
What,
if
kind
of
a
presentation
I
really
want
to
thank
Joan
and
Mitch
for
their
very
specific
input
was
extremely
helpful.
U
We
can
come
up
with
all
sorts
of
creative
ideas,
but
they're
the
people
that
know
exactly
what
is
possible,
how
many
my
cost
and
what
is
realistic,
so
I
want
to
thank
both
Joan
and
MIT
for
their
support
on
this
project
and
they're
very
specific
council
about
it.
Like
all
team,
Punta
Gorda
projects,
this
will
be
highly
collaborative,
should
it
be
approved
additional
organizations,
local
organizations,
anybody
can
play
and
we
will
encourage
and
invite
others
to
play
with
us.
U
V
Good
morning,
Richard
Hulk
for
the
record
Punta
Gorda
in
blue
we're
bringing
this
project
before
you.
You
approved
it
in
concept,
and
now
we
have
some
specific.
So
we
wanted
to
show
what
we
have
in
mind
and
how
we
plan
to
do
it.
This
as
I
met,
as
we
mentioned.
Bob
better
is
here
from
Venice
to
give
us
some
of
their
input.
V
They've
been
in
the
program
for
a
number
of
years,
and
this
is
an
actual
intersection
of
what
they've
accomplished
in
Venice,
and
so
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
change
the
look
a
little
bit
soften
the
cityscape
so
to
speak
and
beautify
the
project.
So
American
bloom
is
a
national
program.
It
was
found
that
I
believe
in
o7
and
has
been
used
in
approximately
250
cities
throughout
the
United
States.
Again,
here
is
a
actual
median
of
Bob's
little
city
and
it
shows
some
of
our
partners
when
we
say
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda.
V
We
have
involved
urban
design
to
help
us
proceed
with
all
of
this,
but
the
chamber,
the
Garden
Club.
We
have
a
number
of
groups
that
will
be
participating
in
the
program,
and
these
are
some
of
the
streetscape
since
various
communities,
but
it
gives
you
kind
of
the
idea
of
what
American
Bloom
is
all
about.
It's
a
national
like
I,
said
it's
not
just
about
flowers
and
downtown
and
improving.
That
is
there's
a
lot
more
involved
in
America
and
bloom.
V
V
That'll
come
up
and
show
you
that
in
in
the
our
budget,
we
came
up
with
twelve
hundred
dollars
to
join
the
program
for
American
bloom,
we've
recruited,
a
number
of
partners,
the
Garden,
Club
and
other
partners,
and
we
have
developed
our
a
IB
profile.
It's
not
completely
done,
but
we're
working
on
it.
We
research
the
number
of
planters
and
watering
options
and
planting
options.
Again.
This
is
another
actual
shot
from
Venice.
We
walked
Taylor
Street
between
Marion
and
Olympia,
and
that's
where
we're
proposing
our
initial
project.
V
V
Now.
This
is
a
photoshop
opportunity
of
the
courthouse
and
we
realize
that
the
courthouse
is
not
completely
controlled
by
the
city
that
it's
a
joint
effort,
but
we
just
wanted
to
show
some
of
the
things
that
we
could
possibly
do.
The
next
slide
gives
you
a
little
more
detail
of
the
low
planters
and
the
high
planters,
and
these
would
all
be
on
drip
irrigation
systems
so
that
it
would
use
minimal
amount
of
water
and
not
require
personnel
to
water
them
daily
or
what
our
you
know
on
what
particular
schedule.
V
The
merchant
planter
program
that
Venice
has
developed
this
is
a
shot
of
the
streetscape
in
Venice
has
been
successful.
It
took
a
little
while
to
get
it
established,
but
they're
making
real
progress.
The
Pentagon
and
Blum
committee
would
maintain
the
planters.
There
would
be
a
buy-in
from
the
merchants
so
that
they
would
have
a
little
ownership
of
the
project.
V
This
is
a
shot
again
of
Venice
and
showing
how
their
drip
irrigation.
They
did
a
complete
rebuild
of
their
downtown
area
and
while
they
were
at
it,
they
put
in
all
of
the
local
water
connections
that
they
could
make.
Here
is
our
budget
for
the
Taylor
Street
project.
The
American
bloom
fee
is
paid.
That's
$1,200.
I
do
want
to
mention
that
the
judges
will
not
be
coming
this
year
because
of
the
kovetz
situation
so
we're
our
budget
is
carried
over
into
next
year,
the
American
bloom
budget.
V
They
will
be
returning
next
year
to
help
us
in
that
and
grade
us.
The
ten
thousand
seven
hundred
is
for
planners
plants.
Irrigation
3,500
is
for
the
merchants
program,
the
merchants
planner
program
and
where
it
says,
cities
estimated
cost
to
install
irrigation.
That
is
the
estimate
by
city
by
Public,
Works
and
engineering,
what
it
would
cost
to
put
in
the
irrigation.
We
are
not
asking
for
that
amount
of
money.
We
are
paying
that
amount
of
money
to
get
the
work
done.
V
So
it's
a
total
budget
of
twenty
thousand
sixteen
dollars
to
beautify
from
Olympia
to
Marion
on
Taylor
now
I
do
want
to
mention
one
thing:
one
citizen
of
Punta
Gorda,
a
seasonal
resident
by
the
name
of
Alain
Shulman,
is
on
our
committee
and
he
has
come
forward
and
paid
the
twenty
thousand
dollars.
Wow.
A
V
Asking
that
we
be
allowed
to
proceed
under
the
purview
of
urban
design
and
and
Public
Works
and
whatever
department
would
be
in
charge
of
moving
the
irrigation
project
forward.
We
have
this
wonderful
gift.
We
have.
We
have
not
even
asked
for
volunteers
to
come
forward
to
help
under
project
and
we
have
14
people
that
read
about
it
in
the
newsletter
from
the
city
and
contacted
us
that
want
to
be
part
of
the
project,
so
the
community
support
is
phenomenal.
V
W
You
Richard
again,
I'm
robert
better
and
I
a
longtime
resident
of
venice.
I
am
a
member
of
Venice
area.
Beautification
Inc,
a
nonprofit
organization
in
Venice,
has
some
similarities
to
what
team
onager
really
does
I
think
Richard
did
a
great
job
of
explaining
what
American
Blum
is
Venice
got
in
this
back
in
2014
and
the
reason
we
got
in
it
was
to
get
the
experience
of
judges
to
give
us
more
ideas.
W
How
can
we
get
better
and
and
they
their
judges,
they,
as
he
said
they
send
to
judges,
they
come
from
different
disciplines
might
be
from
the
environmental
side
might
be
from
the
floral
side
might
be
from
landscaping
or
or
historic
preservation
or
whatever
so
you're.
Getting
judges
with
a
variety
of
experiences.
W
Remember,
of
course
they're
judging
all
over
the
country,
so
they
have
had
tremendous
experiences
when
you
get
in
this
competition
you're
going
up
against
the
best
cities
in
the
country.
Most
people
that
are
in
this
are
good.
They're
they're,
not
they're,
really
in
great
shape.
So
you
will,
and
you
should
be
in
it.
I
can
tell
you
that
I
I
will
tell
you.
I
was
with
Suncoast
media
for
30
years.
I
was
vice
president
Coast
media
derekdon
Rankin
and
David
John
Rankin
weren't.
W
W
So
what
did?
What
did
we
get
out
of
it
in
Venice?
They
will
give
you
about
a
20
page
report.
It
will
be
chock-full
of
stuff.
Some
of
it
will
be
nice,
some
of
it
will
be.
You
ought
to
do
this
or
that
or
whatever
might
be
grant
ideas
that
might
be
ideas
on
different
resources.
You
can
use
I
would
say
you'd.
Probably
we
probably
got
Oh
1520
ideas
every
year.
W
We
we
spent
no
money
to
bring
them
here.
As
you
have
done,
you've
got
people
donating.
We
had
a
citizen,
give
the
donate
the
feed
to
get
in.
We
had
so
you've
got
to
house
them
and
you
gotta
feed
them.
They
get
here
so
and
I'm
sure
Allegiant
can
get
them
here,
but
you
can
you've
got
a
house
them
and
feed
them.
So
we
got
a
sponsor
to
handle
that
housing.
We
got
two
restaurants
to
handle
the
night
meals.
W
W
W
Yes,
there
will
be
some,
you
know,
there'll
be
some
arm-twisting.
Is
we
all
know
Johnson's
known
for
to
get
some
things
done,
because
you
want
to
impress
them.
Obviously
that's
one
of
the
big
things
that
American
bloom
does,
because
once
they
they're
going
to
come
here
and
they
usually
come
to
the
southern
cities.
First,
so
probably
April
may
kind
of
thing
they
do
they
come
here.
They
work
their
way
up,
you
know,
as
weather
gets
nicer
up
north
and
they
go
up
there.
W
There's
a
symposium
in
October,
that's
the
wrap-up,
that's
where
they
give
out
all
the
awards,
and
but
they
also
have
a
lot
of
speakers.
You
get
a
chance
to
meet
with
all
the
other
cities
that
are
involved
in
it.
Yet
you'll
learn
a
lot,
the
city
actual
money
into
it.
They
gave
Venice
this
last
year.
They
offered
three
thousand
dollars
to
spend
as
we
wanted.
So
we
could.
W
We
now
have
ninety-one
hanging
baskets.
We
have
50
ceramic
and
cement
pots.
We
have
six
of
these
flour
fountains
that
Richard
showed
you.
We
have
a
lot
of
in-ground
plantings,
so
there
it's
beautiful,
it's
a
showcase
and
what
happened?
Is
the
merchants
found
that
their
their
amount
of
revenue
increased
dramatically
because
of
how
much
because
it
became
a
destination
people
that
we
gotta
got?
We've
got
to
go
there,
it's
so
beautiful
and
and-
and
it
really
is
so.
Thank
you
very
much
for
letting
me
speak
comments.
L
W
Am
I
space
well
valve
a
be
better?
Sarah
beautification.
We
raised
the
money,
so
those
hanging
baskets
those
91
hanging
baskets
are
paid
for
by
babby.
I
get
them
changed
out
too
from
that
very
beautification.
Nonprofit
organization
doesn't
spend
cinnamon
and
then
I
happen
to
having
been
the
publisher
of
the
newspaper
there
for
a
long
time.
I
knew
a
few
people
and
was
able
I
write
letters
every
year
and
ask
for
I
think
a
page
on
Nancy's
book
so
and
it's
so
there's
really,
no
nobody,
the
pots,
the
fifty
ceramic
pots
we
bought.
W
Now
we
go
to
the
garden
club.
We
go
to
the
women's
club,
we
go.
You
know
this
all
of
those
kind
of
organizations,
but
it
is
a
community
project.
It's
not
there's.
No,
no
City
cost
at
all,
with
the
exception
of
which
Richard
mentioned
well.
Most
of
our
irrigation
comes
from
lines
that
we
have
to
the
pots
and
everything
there
is
manual
watering
and
the
city.
W
U
Like
to
add
also
that,
in
our
plan,
our
intention
is
totally
private.
Fundraising
we're
not
asking
council
to
approve
any
any
funding
for
this
project
that
we
think
the
merchants
are
going
to
get
behind
this
big
time.
From
my
couple
of
conversations
that
Chamber
Board
meetings
that
I've
had
introductory
ones,
they
got
very
excited
about
it
and
that's
why
we
that
the
chamber
is
a
charter
project
partner
on
this,
because
we'll
need
their
help
to
do
the
merchant
planner
program.
But
the
Taylor
Street
project
is
fully
funded
and
future
projects.
U
U
A
Would
decide
to
say
to
Bob
Bob
I
was
the
Nancy
before
Nancy.
Oh
I
was
the
CEO
of
TPA
order
before
Nancy
and
and
beautification
is
one
of
the
one
of
the
first
things
that
team
Punta
Gorda
did
beyond
hiring
Jaime
Carrillo
to
help
the
citizens
master
plan
was
a
beautification
project
along
Marian,
just
to
provide
some
landscaping
and
they
are
across
him
from
the
restaurants,
but
it
was
always
something
of
how
can
we?
A
What
more
can
we
do
to
beautify
our
city
and
I
think
this
just
takes
it
to
a
whole
nother
level
and
it's
very
exciting
to
see
and
I
can
envision.
As
you
were
talking,
I
can
envision
different
areas
within
the
community
wanting
to
say
hey.
We
would
like
to
do
this.
Maybe
some
homeowners
associations
wanting
to
participate
and
doing
some
things
so
I
think
that
that
you
know
we
can
only
use
our
imagination
to
see
where
we
can
go
with
us
and
and
really
you
know,
kick
it
up
a
notch.
Yeah.
E
D
U
Haven't
decided
that
yet
we
know
we
want
to
do
Taylor
and
Marian.
There
are
many
other
streets
that
could
be
done,
but
the
purpose
of
a
pilot
is
to
test
the
theory
and
see
how
it
goes.
Did
it
work?
How
much
trouble
was
it?
Did
we
stay
within
the
cost
and
so
I
think
when
we
do
a
pilot,
then
we
can
come
back
to
you
with
a
with
recommendations
for
the
future
saying
and
addressing
any
challenges
that
come
up
along
the
way.
U
That's
why
we
want
to
test
it
out
on
a
city
controlled
street,
as
Richard
mentioned,
without
having
to
go
through
F
dot,
nor
that
stuff
I
don't
know
how
many
phases
it
can
be
unlimited.
One
of
the
things
that
Bob
emphasized
that
I
think
is
cool.
It's
exciting
about
this
is
that
our
city
excels
in
some
of
the
areas.
American
bloom
is
interested
in.
You
know
the
historic
preservation,
the
recovery
from
the
hurricane,
our
parks
are
all
the
things
that
we've
done
in
this
town.
They're
gonna
love
it.
U
This
is
the
the
last
area
that
we
need
to
attend
to
to
truly
be
equal
to
these
other
spectacular.
So
we
are
spectacular
and
our
downtown
should
be
too
so
the
number
of
phases
is
up
to
you.
It's
up
to
the
citizens.
It's
up
to
the
funders.
We
can
take
this
product,
we
can
just
keep
it
Taylor
now
and
Marian
later,
or
we
can
look
at
other
parts
of
the
city
and
make
this
an
ongoing
beautification
project
over
the
years
that
we
continue
and
our
joint
mutual
discretion
I.
D
This
and
having
a
collaborative
effort
I
think
that's
really
a
very
big
part
of
my
support
of
it.
You
know
I've
always
been
an
advocate
of
doing
that,
but
but
I,
you
know
the
only
other
thing
that
was
braised
to
me.
A
question
that
was
raised
to
me
by
a
citizen
was
who's
going
to
do
the
ongoing
maintenance
of
all
these
these
plants
and
and
shrubs,
and
whatever
else
you're
putting
in
as
we
know
with
the
bicycles
where
we
had
the
flower
baskets
on
the
bicycles
that
kind
of
went
downhill.
U
That's
why
we're
putting
doing
the
self
watering
things,
because
the
bicycles
weren't
they
had
to
go
out
there,
those
merchants
and
do
that
some
didn't
a
lot
of
them.
Didn't
it
was
fun
for
a
few
years
to
have
those
it
was
great,
but
this
will
be
different
in
terms
of
the
planting
and
maintenance
of
the
plants.
U
This
committee,
that
we
are
establishing
much
like
our
community
garden
committee,
which
has
a
strong
track
record
of
keeping
that
community
garden
beautiful
people
said
you
can't
make
a
pretty
community
garden
while
we
have
yeah
and
they
maintain
it
and
look
at
the
green
thumbs
track
record
in
the
nature.
Carcass
is
how.
U
Standing
track
record
of
volunteer
maintenance
yeah,
so
we
intend
to
follow
those
two
models
and
put
together
a
strong
committee
which
is
already
at
the
beginning,
who
will
take
responsibility
for
the
plantings
over
time?
We've
been
told
by
staff
that
our
light
poles
are
ancient
and
not
that
tall,
and
so
we're
kind
of
giving
up
the
idea
of
hanging
baskets
on
the
light
poles,
because
it
doesn't
appear
to
be
practical
in
Punta
Gorda,
so
we'll
be
looking
mostly
the
ground
planters
at
this
time
in
our
design,
Venice
I,
might
add
also
dumb.
U
This
is
down
the
road
possibility
to
put
in
some
plant
stands
that
looks
like
the
light
poles,
but
they
have
no
lights
on
them,
they're.
Just
for
the
purpose
of
hanging
baskets
we're
not
proposing
that
right
now,
but
there
are
ideas
like
that.
We
could.
We
could
glean
from
Venice
for
down
the
road,
but
this
will
be
a
volunteer
maintained
and
we
feel
confident
we
can
do
that.
W
H
W
A
A
A
R
A
I
just
had
to
say
all
right:
we
will
proceed
now
at
the
unfinished
business.
The
city
manager,
recruitment,
candidate,
shortlisting
and,
while
Phil
is
coming
to
the
podium,
I
think
I
just
have
several
things.
I'd
like
to
mention
to
kick
this
off.
I
just
really
want
to
thank
all
of
the
candidates
who
applied
and
everyone
I
read
every
resume,
I'm
sure
that
you
probably
all
did
every
every
reference.
Every
did
some
outstanding
candidates
and
we're
blessed
and
so
again,
I
want
to
thank
everyone.
A
I
know
that
we
probably
have
a
number
of
candidates
that
are
watching
us
today
in
this
discussion.
If
I
was
one
of
them,
I
would
be
watching
us,
and
I
also
I
want
to
explain
that
in
the
in
the
listing
that
was
provided
as
an
attachment
in
our
agenda
item,
there
was
no
listing
of
priority.
I
had
a
number
of
residents
wanting
to
know
what
the
individual
these
were.
These
in
the
list
of
priority
I
said
no.
What
you
saw
was
how
many
candidates
had
selected.
A
You
know
one
person
and
then
within
the
category
of
well.
There
were
three
council
members
that
selected
that
person.
Those
were
in
alphabetical
order
by
first
name,
so
I
was
trying
to
explain
to
people.
There
was
no
order
of
priority
there.
The
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
share
is
from
my
own
experience
in
in
volunteering
here
in
Punta
Gorda
and
from
my
corporate
career
I
think
we
have
been
blessed
to
have
Howard
Koenig
here
serving
us.
He
came
out
at
a
time
when
our
city
was
was
wrecked
by
Hurricane
Charley
and
he
brought
stability.
A
There
have
been
a
number
of
things
going
on
from
my
understanding
here,
Lynn.
You
were
certainly
here
and
can
appreciate
from
a
political
standpoint.
Howard
brought
stability
and
not
only
stability,
but
when
I
was
the
CEO
of
Team
point
of
Gorda
and
he
brought
empowerment
and
his
staff
was
just
they
were
empowered.
A
A
I
think
it
was
like
five
years
after
Hurricane
Charley
and
it
really
and
has
kept
documenting
these
kinds
of
things
that
to
show
what
has
happened
in
this
community
through
that
collaboration
and
and
partnerships,
and
and
that
it
was
truly
a
collaborative
effort
to
get
us
where
we
are
and
I
am
so
honored
to
have
been
a
part
of
that
I.
Also
I
look
at
I
know
in
my
my
corporate
career,
where
we
have,
we
get
a
manager
that
we
don't
like
we
say.
A
Well,
you
know
just
wait,
they'll
be
gone
and
we'll
Deena
and
it
we.
It
almost
got
to
be
the
point
where
we
would
say
it
was
the
management
style
d'azur,
and
so
we
would
wait
a
couple
years
and
then
somebody
would
move
on
and
we
said
we
can.
It
will
outlast
this
manager
or
whatever,
but
it's
not
healthy
for
an
organization
when
you
have
continuous
change
like
that
and
so
I
think
having
Howard
here
for
a
long
time
has
brought
great
stability
to
this
community
and
it's
and
it's
been
a
great
stability
to
the
staff.
A
I,
also
the
sense
that
his
impending
retirement
has
brought
a
lot
of
in
trepidation
and
wondering
who
will
replace
Howard.
What
will
they
be
like
and
all
that
so,
in
my
view,
as
I
have
looked
on
all
these
candidates
and
and
looked
at
what
it
is,
am
I
looking
for
I'm
looking
for
somebody
who
wants
to
make
a
long-term
commitment
to
this
community
and.
E
A
Really
wants
to
be
here
for
the
long
term,
I'm
not
looking
for
somebody
who
wants
to
come
here
and
it's
a
stepping
stone
in
a
few
years.
They're
gonna
leave
I,
don't
want
to
put
our
community
through
this
again
in
a
few
years
and,
yes,
things
can
change
and
you
never
know
what
might
happen
that
could
cause
that.
D
D
We
are
a
role
model
to
all
the
other
cities
in
the
state
and
and
and
I've
had
people
come
up
to
me
at
that
conference
and
ask
me
questions
because
they
like
what
what
they've
heard
about
us
and
they'll
ask
a
question
about
some
specific
project
and
I've
actually
made
some
friends
from
different
places
in
the
state
because
of
who
we
are
and
what
the
city
represents
and
you're
absolutely
right.
We
have
been
very
lucky
to
have
the
stability
of
a
15
year,
city
manager.
D
You
look
at
even
some
of
the
resumes
that
we
had
to
review
on
this
project.
There's
a
lot
of
city
managers
that
worked
for
a
strong
mayor
government
and
maybe
the
new
new
governor
new
mayor
came
in
and
and
didn't
like
them.
Butted
heads
with
staff
members
and
just
started
firing.
People-
and
you
know
he
looked
at
the
one
question-
was
really
interesting.
D
Have
you
ever
left
a
job
that
you
were
not
able
to
be
rehired
and
a
lot
of
that
stems
from
that
sort
of
government
and
that's
one
thing:
I
think
we
should
make
sure
we
share
with
the
the
citizens
committee
when
they
do
the
interview
process.
You
know
what
a
resume
States
may
not
be
a
true
case
of
who
the
person
is.
D
They
may
have
been
a
victim
of
a
whole
new
city
or
county
government
and
I
think
that
that
really
speaks
volumes
about
who
the
candidate
may
be
I
over
75
hours,
reviewing
resumes
and
doing
research
on
these
people
and
and
and
we're
lucky
that
we've
got
a
few
that
floated
to
the
top
of
the
pile
I
think
for
the
most
part
we
seem
to
have
been
in
a
fairly
common
place
with
who
we
selected
for
the
top
five
or
six
people,
there's
probably
five.
The
way
I
look
at
it,
but
well.
A
Or
more
I
mean
I,
think
it's
it's!
What
our
views
are
in
my
particular
case,
I
know
that
you
know
in
the
Florida
League
of
Cities
meeting
last
year,
where
General
McQueen,
who
is
now
the
the
city
manager
of
Panama
City,
made
a
presentation
to
us
that
was
that
left
an
indelible
impression
on
me.
He
was
unbelievable
and
in
his
remarks
and
his
approach
and
his
just
you
know,
and
he
had
never
been
a
city
manager
before
so
it.
A
A
F
F
We're
getting
there.
I
remember
talking
about
this
three
months
three
or
four
months
ago,
and
it
was
it
just
seemed
like
a
long
way
away
or
now,
roughly
three
weeks
away
from
doing
interviews,
which
is
very
gratifying.
You
mentioned,
and
the
vice
mayor
also
said
that
you
kind
of
have
a
nice
little
cutoff.
You
have
five
candidates
who
receive
three
or
more
I
call
them
tallies.
F
That's
really
struggled
with
what
to
call
that,
but
three
or
more
nods
from
councilmembers
and
I
can
tell
you
that
I
have
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
Google
as
well,
and
there
are
things
one
of
the
things
I
will
say
and
I've
said
it
before.
Just
because
you
see
see
it
on
Google
and
just
because
you
see
portrayed
a
certain
way
on
Google
does
not
necessarily
mean
that
that's
the
way
or
the
why
it
happened.
F
We
have
won
one
of
your
candidates.
We've
got
three
nods,
who
ran
into
a
political
buzzsaw
and
it
this
city
manager
has
been
fortunate
to
have
a
very
businesslike
counsel,
who
came
from
business,
understood
the
nature
of
allowing
managers
and
CEOs
to
do
their
jobs.
You
had
almost
been
like
a
board
of
directors
if
you
will
and
he's
been
fortunate
in
that
now,
he's
also
been
fortunate
in
that
his
approach
has
been
I.
Don't
have
an
agenda
you
all
set.
F
The
agenda
will
do
it
I
think
as
we
move
forward
in
this
process
and
as
I'm
going
to
have
a
meeting
with
all
of
the
panel
members.
That's
one
of
the
things
I'm
going
to
emphasize
is
that
whoever
is
selected
needs
to
come
in
with
that
servant
attitude.
That's
that
that
idea
that
I'm
here
to
run
this
organization
day-to-day,
but
my
marching,
orders
and
the
way
we're
going
and
and
the
direction
that
we
go
is
going
to
come
from
these
five
elected
officials.
F
As
I
said
earlier,
you
have
any
an
easy
cut
off
at
five
and
if
that's
how
many
want
interview
and
those
are
the
ones
you
want
to
interview
we're
done.
However,
I
get
the
sense
that
there
are
some
some
other
candidates
that
really
appeal
to
you
that
you
believe
need
to
be
given
consideration
and
that
I'm
just
going
to
turn
it
back
over
to
the
mayor.
That
needs
to
be
the
focus
of
this
conversation
today.
F
Number
one:
do
you
want
more
than
five
and
number
two?
How
do
you
want
to
get?
It
would
be
very,
very
helpful
if
we
did
not
go
past
seven
and
the
reason
for
that
is.
We
only
have
six
interview
groups
now.
If
we
were
to
break
the
panel
into
two,
then
we'd
have
seven,
but
as
it
stands,
if
we
go
with
eight,
the
each
candidate
will
have
two
one-hour
blocks
in
which
there
is
hanging
out
waiting
to
be
interviewed,
and
so
it.
But
this
is
your
decision.
F
F
F
H
Well,
it
seems
to
me
that
if
there
were
five
people
that
at
least
a
majority
of
us
are
interested
in
interviewing
that
that
should
be
our
list.
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
any
purpose
in
bringing
somebody
in
that
only
had
two
suggestions,
because
you
know
if,
personally,
if
I
thought
there
were
anybody,
I
even
would
be
remotely
interested
in
speaking
with
they
made
my
list
so
to
go
down
to
to
the
twos.
Is
I,
don't
see
that
that
accomplishes
anything
I.
A
A
Condit
he
was
a
major
in
the
Air
Force.
He
managed
in
the
Air
Force
Base
city,
so
he
didn't
have
municipal
city
management,
but
he
certainly
had
the
equivalent.
You
know
was
a
hurricane
hunter
and
flew
into
the
Hurricanes
to
talk
about
managing
under
pressure
and
so
I
I
reflected
on
general
McQueen.
But
then,
as
I
read
his
one
reference
and
this
one
reference
took
the
time
to
really
answer
the
questions
in
detail
and
I
have
to
tell
you.
A
I
got
chills
as
I
read
this
reference
I
felt
like
they
were
describing
Howard
I
did
I
really
felt
like
this
person
was
describing
Howard
not,
and
it's
like
when
I
talked
when
they
talked
about
how
the
how
they
handle
things
and
whatever
I
said
this
is
Howard,
so
I
just
it
just
reached
out
to
me
like
that
way,
and
so
it's
like
someone
of
that
that
I
felt
just.
Why
put
them
on
the
list,
because
that
I.
I
Think
the
top
seven
I
say
this,
because
even
companies
find
this
problem.
Is
that
going
just
off
of
only
paper.
We
miss
a
lot
of
good
people,
and-
and
this
happens
a
lot
in
general
and
I
I-
think
it
that
I
think
that
it
would
benefit
us
to
at
least
give
ourselves
the
opportunity
to
hear
at
least
that's
to
other
people.
I
I
would
say
this:
the
five
and
the
two
below
at
the
very
least
just
for
the
option
of
being
able
to
hear
the
voices,
because,
even
though
we
mean
out
of
all
chosen
based
on
paper,
I,
don't
I
think
the
7
is
a
good
number
for
us
to
at
least
to
consider,
because
a
paper
may
just
you
know
not
the
paper,
it's
just
paper,
but
people
may
not
actually
show
who
they
truly
are
than
paper.
We
made
I,
don't
want
us
to
lose
people
just
because
they
didn't
do
their
well.
A
D
Something
you
said
resonated
of
course
with
me,
because
I
was
looking
for
the
same
thing
in
terms
of
longevity
and
Andrew.
Hyatt
has
bounced
around
every
two
years
on
a
job,
and
that
concerns
me
a
great
deal
so
I
I,
you
know
I
I
supplied
nine
names,
because
I
thought
we
were
supposed
to
give
you
the
top
ten
and
I
had
ten
until
the
one
guy
withdrew
so
I.
D
This
was
a
stretch
for
me
to
get
to
nine.
It
was
real
stretch.
I
was
very
happy
with
the
top
five
I
have
no
no
question
about
it.
I
agree
with
Debbie
to
that
extent
that
the
top
five
definitely
should
be
the
first
five
we
interview
and
beyond
that.
We
have
to
remember
that
we're
gonna
have
to
pay
for
airline
fare,
we're
gonna
have
to
pay
for
hotel,
we're
gonna,
have
to
feed
and
we're
gonna
have
to
transport
them
all
of
those
expenses.
D
Every
time
we
add
one
of
those
people
on-
and
it's
gonna
add
tremendously
to
the
cost
of
this.
Is
it
going
to?
Is
there
gonna
be
a
end
result
benefit
in
doing
that?
I,
don't
know
I
don't
happen
to
care
for
the
candidate.
You
were
referring
to
I
didn't
like
the
resume
as
much
as
I
liked
other
resumes.
A
F
Interject
for
just
a
moment
the
way
it
stands
right
now,
your
top
five
James
dramas
from
Brunswick
Georgia
Steven
Crowell,
is
from
Jefferson
City,
Maryland
or
Miami
Missouri
Chris
Eldridge
is
from
Myrtle
Beach
South
Carolina
Greg
Murray
is
in
Smiths
Berg
Maryland
Karen
Gardner
Young
is
in
Boynton
Beach
David
Condit
is
from
Colorado
Springs.
That
would
be
a
hike.
F
Andrew
Hyatt
is
in
Ponte
Vedra,
Beach,
Florida
and
Michael
Mauro.
So
anybody
in
Florida
or
even
Georgia
could
drive
it
Brunswick's,
not
that
far.
It's
I
think
a
seven
or
eight
hour
drive
it'd,
be
housing
and
per
diem.
That
would
be
the
cost
there.
But
when
you
start
flying
people
in
from
Jefferson
City
and
in
other
places
it
gets
a
little
more
expensive,
but
that's
just
to
break
down
to
where
they're
from.
E
L
A
D
H
H
A
F
B
F
New
consideration
for
other
City
Manor
job
manager,
jobs
in
his
past
he's
never
been
selected.
He
he
is
kind
of
like
where
Howard
was
when
he
came
here,
and
that
is
that
had
lots
of
experience
he's
been
with
that
one
organization
for
20-plus
years
and
has
worked
his
way
up.
You
know
Howard
was
a
planner
in
her
previous
life,
not
sure
that's
good
or
bad,
but
he
was
so.
L
F
F
You
go
seven,
each
one
will
get
one
a
one
hour
break
and
that
would
make
it
and
we
can
keep
everything
here.
If
we
went
a,
we
would
almost.
We
would
almost
have
to
go
with
two
panels,
one
here
and
one
over
public
safety.
Just
because
if
I'm
a
candidate
I
don't
want
to
sit
around
for
two
hours
waiting
yeah
and
they
would
be
two
hours
back-to-back
the
way
the
matrix
works
out,
and
so
but
again,
this
is
your
choice.
I
O
F
H
D
F
I
A
F
O
A
H
O
L
F
H
H
D
A
S
F
Now
my
next
job,
when
I
leave
here,
will
be
to
contact
these
people
and
say
you're
in
we've,
already
contacted
them.
Okay,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
some
of
them
have
been
interviewing
at
other
places,
but
they
expressed
a
very
firm.
Yes
I'm,
still
interested,
there's,
no
wishy-washy
us,
no
I'll
give
it
a
shot.
Any
of
that
it
was
like
to
do
that
so
I
think.
A
I
would
like
to
reiterate
what
debbie
said,
because
I
know
that
they're,
probably
listening
or
they're
gonna,
come
back
and
watch
this
discussion.
This
city
is
a
city
that
has
a
lot
going
on
and
and
we
need
somebody
who
can
hit
the
ground
running
mm-hmm
and
take
and
follow
in
some
pretty
big
shoes.
Yeah
agree.
L
F
Yes,
in
my
mind,
it's
just
a
plane
ticket
right
for
some
in
others,
they
may
say,
look
I,
you
know,
I
have
friends
that
live
in
Punta,
Gorda
I'll
Drive
down,
and
so
we
will
deal
with
each
one
of
those
situations
individually
and
but
I
I.
Thank
you
that
we've
been
able
to.
Actually
it's
not
even
three
o'clock
I'm.
Sorry,
anyway,
I
will.
F
F
F
The
candidate
will
be
behind
a
table
out
front
that
row
of
chairs
will
go
away
and
then
we'll
scatter
them
out
throughout
and
I'll,
be
meeting
with
them
and
and
and
honestly
I
want
to
see
how
they
would
like
to
proceed,
but
we'll
send
them
all.
The
resumes
and
references
for
each
candidate
so
they'll
be
seeing
everything
you've
seen.
So,
yes,.
F
L
F
All
public
record,
if
you
wish
we
can
put
it
on,
can
we
put
it
on
the
website?
Okay,
I
think
you
know,
I'll
have
Cortney
put
it
on
the
website
and
they
can
see
all
the
the
seven
resumes
I
know
that
the
paper
is
contacted
Melissa
about
whoever
we're
going
to
interview,
and
so
it's
it's
out
there
now
and
there
were
a
couple
of
candidates
who
had
concerns
about
that.
But
hey,
if
you
don't
want
to
work
in
Florida,
don't
put
your
name
in
I.
F
F
H
F
C
F
E
A
A
A
F
And
you
know
the
question
was
that
so
somebody
made
the
comment
the
other
day.
Well,
why
did
you
apply
for
the
city
plan
a
harder
job,
and
the
question
was
why
wouldn't
I
I
mean
they?
We
do
have
a
reputation
well
considered
as
I've
spoken
and
I've
spoken
to
all
of
these
candidates.
It's
yeah.
You
know
this.
It's
a
great
community
and
very
liveable
I
asked.
A
F
E
G
E
G
E
P
Good
morning,
everyone
I'm
so
excited
to
be
here:
I
am
an
FGCU
graduate
idiot
student
I
got
my
degree
in
public
relations
and
marketing
and
now
I
love
government.
So
that's
why
I'm
here
I'm
getting
my
master's
in
public
administration
with
a
minor
in
environmental
policy
and
planning
and
I
absolutely
love
working
with
this
department.
I've
learned
so
much,
but
not
only
that
I
have
been
able
to
bring
in
my
experiences
with
the
things
we're
gonna
talk
about
today.
P
So
I'm
really
excited
to
be
here
and
I
know
it's
foreign
to
say
that
plan
is
planning
is
exciting
and
fun,
but
it
is,
and
that
comes
from
a
22
year
olds,
all
right
so
before
we
get
into
what
we
have
planned.
I
did
want
to
make
it
clear
that
for
why
we're
not
creating
a
new
plan
but
we're
updating.
It
is
because
it
is
required
as
part
of
the
recreation
open-space
elements
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
P
The
last
plan
was
up
to
adopted
in
2009,
but,
as
you
know,
things
weigh
and
right
now
we're
working
on
a
big
master
plan.
So
that
is
why
we
are
delayed
and
now
we're
getting
started.
So
one
thing
that
I
felt
and
the
team
felt
that
was
important
was
talking
about
the
vision
and
mission,
so
you
can
read
those
right
there.
P
A
P
We
are
so
excited
to
announce
that
the
parks
and
recreation
2020
master
plan
is
currently
in
the
works
like
able
to
be
a
part
of
it
get
involved
and
help
us
make
the
2020
plan
by
taking
part
in
our
contest,
the
winner
will
win
a
gift
basket
that
includes
a
$25
gift
card
and
other
Punta
Gorda
swag.
Not
only
that,
we
are
also
holding
a
survey
to
hear
about
your
ideas.
P
P
So
for
the
contest
we
want
to
bring
in
the
citizens
and
the
residents
to
help
name
the
plan
itself,
not
the
parts
just
the
plan
we
want,
because
it's
not
just
our
parks,
it's
their
parks
and
we
want
them
to
feel
included,
and
that's
why
we
talked
about
Eastern
Time,
because
right
now
they
may
not
be
here
in
Punta
Gorda.
So,
even
though
they're
in
different
parts
of
the
country,
we
want
them
to
be
a
part
of
it
and
feel
like
they're
still
home.
P
So
for
the
contest,
the
only
requirement
is
that
you
have
to
be
opponent,
Gorda
resident
and
you
can
enter
through
the
website.
Email
drop
offer
you
can
call
or
mail
to
us.
The
submission
must
include
Punta
Gorda
in
the
name,
so
it
can
be
whatever
you
want,
and
it
must
complement
the
plans,
mission
and
vision,
which
is
why
we
mentioned
it
in
the
beginning.
P
So
we're
currently
updating
the
webpage.
So
there
will
be
reminder,
links
provided
in
the
weekly
to
let
you
know
that
we
have
a
web
page.
Here's
where
we're
gonna
update
everyone
with
all
the
information
it'll
be
monitored.
It
will
also
be
the
hub
for
any
questions
or
ideas
any
of
the
citizens
or
residents
may
have,
and
this
information
will
also
be
shared
on
all
social
platforms.
The
fun
part,
my
favorite
part,
are
the
video
updates.
P
Instead
of
sending
out
just
worded
updates,
we
wanted
to
make
it
feel
more
personal,
so
we're
gonna
create
videos
every
other
week
and
I
didn't
want
to
ask
you
if
you
all
want
it
to
be
a
part
of
the
videos
to
talk
about
issues,
ideas,
anything
the
citizens
want
to
talk
about,
so
it
will
include
frequently
asked
questions
that
we
receive.
They
will
be
uploaded
to
YouTube
so
that
we
could
make
it
accessible
for
everyone
with
captions
it'll,
be
posted
to
the
city's
web
page
and
share
it
on
all
platforms
and,
lastly,
here's
our
timeline.
P
This
is
this
can
change
and
we
will
update
that
on
the
web
page.
This
is
one
of
the
biggest
things
we
will
have
there,
so
we
have
our
June.
So
the
kickoff,
the
contest
website
and
the
survey
is
tentative.
The
survey
is
just
getting
the
ideas
from
the
residents.
Then
we
will
announce
the
contest
winner
in
July
in
August.
We
want
to
start
some
workshops,
even
if
they
are
virtual.
P
So
we
can
include
those
residents
that
aren't
here
right
now,
then
we
will
close
this
survey
and
then
September
will
have
the
final
draft
final
workshops:
October
Planning,
Commission
November,
the
first
reading
in
December,
the
second
and
possibly
adopting
it.
So
thank
you.
Are
there
any
questions?
I.
H
P
Really,
okay,
so
we
so
we
wanted
to.
If
that
were
the
case,
we
wanted
to
split
the
contest
into
in
two
ways,
so
people
would
apply
and
give
us
their
names
and
then
would
have
a
criteria.
So
our
criteria
has
to
have
the
mission,
the
mission
and
vision
included
in
the
name.
Then
we
would
size
it
down
to
maybe
five
or
ten
and
we
would
have
the
residents
and
population
vote
for
their
favorite
one.
That's.
A
H
G
It
just
sounded
like
a
fun
thing
to
do
with
everything
going
on.
We
thought
it
happened.
We
get
everybody
inclusive
and
included
in
the
process
as
we
move
forward.
There's
a
lot
of
concern
about
our
parks
and
we
want
to
hear
from
the
people
and
we
thought
what
a
great
way
to
kick
it
off
and
with
fabiana's
excitement
and
energy.
We
thought
it
would
be
a
great
way
to
start
no.
P
D
A
question
is,
so:
are
you
you're
talking
about
workshops?
You're
gonna
involve
all
the
citizenry
that
wants
to
participate
in
workshops
and
get
their
input
because
I
know
there
are
several
citizens
who
have
over
the
past
several
years
expressed
a
lot
of
requests
to
get
a
much
more
updated,
Parks
and
Rec
plan
and
there's
also
been
discussion
about
a
possible
new
Department
being
established.
So
is
that
all
gonna
be
incorporated
into
this?
Yes,.
P
G
I
H
P
A
L
C
Q
Ray
Briggs
fire
chief
for
the
record
and
I
would
agree
with
Howard
who
thinks
it's
fair
that
I
have
to
follow
this
talk
about
fatality
and
stuff.
That's
not
not
good!
Okay.
That
would
give
a
brief
update
on
on
the
conarc
ovid
scenario,
so
department
health
still
continues,
take
the
lead
throughout
the
state
and
certainly
in
our
county,
and
the
focus
is
on
our
community-based
testing.
Q
The
community-based
testing
is
also
still
ongoing
at
the
Charlotte
Sports
Park,
so
folks
can
still
go
to
the
website
to
make
their
appointments,
and
and
all
of
that,
so
that's
going
well
as
well
as
focus
in
the
nursing
homes
and
assisted
living
facilities,
so
they're
still
testing
throughout
the
community
with
them
and
even
to
the
point
where
the
facilities
that
can
test
themselves
they're
doing
it
on
their
own,
with
support
from
the
Department
of
Health
seems
to
be
going
well.
Are
they.
Q
Yes,
yes,
and
in
fact,
if
you
look
at
numbers
statewide-
and
you
know
what
you
see
is
about
50%
or
greater,
you
know
there
seems
to
be
a
real
preponderance
of
numbers
out
of
the
nursing
homes,
so
50%
or
greater
of
our
total
positives
come
out
of
nursing
homes
and
a
LFS.
That's
the
data
that
we
get
back
so
interesting.
That
target
group
that
we
all
you
know
from
the
beginning,
we
kind
of
heard
and
so
where's.
A
Q
Q
Q
We
didn't
get
a
lot
of
notice
on
it,
but
Department
of
Health
certainly
there's
a
the
lead
organization,
so
their
first
and
then
we
kind
of
we
just
link
to
it
and
I
think
Melissa
has
done
a
great
job
with
getting
that
information
out.
Okay.
So
as
a
city,
how
are
we
doing?
We
still
have
about
30
employees
who
are
tele
working
in
some
way
or
another,
maybe
come
in
impartial
days
or
those
that
can
work
from
home.
Q
We
all
know
that
it
just
started
we're
in
there
and
so
we're
working
with
the
county
and
state
emergency
management,
certainly
some
challenges
as
we
talk
about
sheltering
and
what
that
would
look
like
with
you
know,
distancing
and
and
all
of
that,
so
we're
really
waiting
for
some
guidance
from
the
state
and
some
resources
and
what
that's
going
to
look
like.
So
certainly
you
can't
we're
in
before.
Q
Maybe
we
had
seven
hundred
people
or
thousand
people
in
a
sheltered
scenario
that
that
isn't
that's
not
feasible
with
you
know
what
we're
doing
today,
so
you
would
either
look
to
open
up
additional
or
you
know,
how's
that
gonna
work,
so
we're
kind
of
working
through
that
with
accounting.
That's
where
we
are
okay,
any
questions
certainly
entertain
any
questions
all
right.
Thank
you.
As.
C
A
Monday
we
reopened
our
city
facilities.
We
put
that
in
the
weekly
report.
It's
on
our
website,
public,
the
Public
Safety
Building,
really
hasn't
changed
much.
They
they've
been
doing
that
for
a
while
Public
Works
and
utilities
they're
not
going
to
get
a
whole
lot
of
visitors
anyways.
But
as
far
as
City
Hall
is
concerned,
we
have
the
entrance
here
by
the
council
chambers
as
the
a.da
access
and
that's
where
the
public
can
enter
to
get
to
the
City
Clerk's
office.
C
As
far
as
the
annex
is
concerned,
we
still
have
our
employee
down
in
the
lobby,
who
sort
of
like
the
filters.
The
folks
when
they
come
in,
ask
questions.
Take
the
temperature
if
they
want
to
visit
one
of
the
staff
you
find
with
us
either
the
staff
will
come
down
and
greet
them
and
we
have
not
seen
a
huge
amount
of
activity
on
the
second
floor
between
building
and
billing
and
collections,
some
people
have
started
coming
in.
C
We
have
the
plexiglass
set
up
on
the
second
floor
and
the
third
floor,
so
yeah
we're
it
seems
to
be
working
fine,
so
the
process
we
put
in
place
again,
City
Hall,
is
open.
Our
public
buildings
are
open.
If
you
can
do
work
online
website
call
ins,
that's
great
it's
great,
but
if
you
feel
like
you
need
to
come
in
and
see
somebody
in
our
city,
buildings,
we're.
E
C
And
we're
able
to
assist
you,
but
we
do
have
two
things.
We
need
to
talk
about
the
yesterday.
The
county
did
not
change
any
of
their
activities,
so
they
did
not
reopen
splash
pads
or
they
did
not
open
the
pools
for
public
use.
I
mean
you
can
use
the
pools,
but
I
think
you're
confined
and
and
I,
and
you
got
a
call
for
an
umpire
yeah.
A
C
They
really
didn't
change
anything,
so
we're
not
changing
anything
except
we
have
two
topics
to
talk
about.
The
first
one
is
the
electrical
power
in
the
pavilions.
Now
we,
you
know
why
we
shut
it
off,
and
so
now
we
have
a
request
from
the
non
acoustic
group,
but
they'd
like
to
come
back
on
Tuesday
night
or
you
read,
the
I
read
the
email
where
they
talked
about
how
many
people
could
be
there
in
the
summer.
I
think
it
was
the
estimate
of
around
4050
in
the
winter.
Obviously,
it's
a
it's
a
lot
more.
C
We
have
not
been,
of
course,
that's
not
an
event.
It's
a
non-event,
it's
just
turning
on
electrical
power
and
people
show
up
if
people
are
already
occupying
the
pavilions.
Well,
that's
it
they're
occupying
the
pavilions.
If
they're
not
they're,
not,
but
we
provide
that
availability
for
Tuesday
and
Thursday
night
is
the
acoustic
night
course.
You
could
have
acoustic
players
right
there
now
you
good
so
do
we
want
to
turn
the
electric
on
or
not.
We
have
not
been
encouraging
events
matter
of
fact
we
have
not
even
again,
this
is
not
an
event.
C
H
H
A
D
Looking
at
both
sides
of
it,
one
is
that
the
governor
has
said
he
doesn't
want
to
encourage
groups
gathering
in
any
place,
so
that
was
in
his
executive
order,
and
so
that
extent
that
is
going
to
definitely
encourage
a
crowd
together
and
I
would
hate
to
have
to
see
the
police
have
to
be
there
monitoring
it
every
week.
I
think
that's
we've
got
so
many
other
things
that
are,
you
know
floating
to
the
top
of
their
pile
of
things.
D
They
have
to
do
on
a
daily
basis,
I
kind
of
can
you
know
that
it's
very
confusing,
but
and
we
would
be
encouraging
them
to
do
that
and
I
think
that's
in
violation
of
the
governor's
order.
At
the
same
time,
I
see
Debbie
side
of
it
as
well,
and
so
I'm
like
really
seriously
right
in
the
middle
on
this
John.
G
L
A
E
L
C
A
O
C
A
C
C
A
I
got
a
call
from
Commissioner
to
say,
oh
and
who
had
has
an
idea
and
wanted
to
share
that
it.
He
felt
that
our
community
needed
something
positive
to
happen
and
that
he
was
sorry.
You
know
he
was
unfortunate.
You
know
we
were
not
going
to
have
the
4th
of
July
celebration
here
in
Punta
Gorda,
and
it
was
his
view
that
the
reason
we
weren't
going
to
was
because
of
the.
A
Our
concern
was
more
over
the
fact
that
nobody
else
in
southwest
florida
is
other
than
Northport
out
in
a
field
is
going
to
have
fireworks
and
we
didn't
want
to
be
the
only
game
in
town,
because
we
know
from
a
lot
of
experience
over
the
years,
what
happens
and
when
something
happens
in
our
community
and
I
said
so
I
said:
take
Halloween,
for
example,
and
he
said
you
mean
like
with
the
haunted
the
haunted
house
downtown.
I
said
no,
no,
no.
No,
no
I
said.
A
A
It's
just
to
the
east
side
of
the
41
bridge
as
you
go
over
the
bridge.
It's
not
like.
Oh,
it's
not
in
the
live
oak,
its
that
vacant
area
there
by
the
light
the
Live
Oak
Park
that
they
would
have
the
fireworks
there
and
I
said
so
you're
going
to
launch
the
fireworks
from
there,
but
the
viewing
is
going
to
be
primarily
from
the
south
side
of
the
bridge.
A
L
A
Know,
bridge
anywhere
and
so
cuz,
that's
a
point.
It's
you
know
kind
of
so
anyway,
I
said
well.
Is
it
okay?
If
I
talk
with
Howard
about
this-
and
he
said
sure,
and
so
Howard
and
I
had
a
conversation
about
it
and
I
said,
please
call
you
know
Hector
and
talk
to
Hector
and
see
what
you
think
so
I
and
I
told
him.
I
said
I
understand.
I
said
you
know
there
was
a
side
of
me.
A
E
A
E
I
A
A
H
A
H
H
I
D
D
A
O
A
D
A
D
L
E
A
D
E
C
Will
relay
the
message
to
County
Administrator
here
he
already
got
a
sense
of
what
I
thought
was
going
to
happen.
You
know
if
the
Commission
wants
to
do
fireworks.
Next
Tuesday
is
when
they
meet.
They
don't
have
a
lot
of
time
left
to
secure
a
contract
to
get
it
organized
I
mean
it
takes
a
long
time
to
get
that's
why
smugglers
gave
us
a
June,
1
deadline,
yeah.
C
C
A
T
A
A
C
The
police
chief
captain
of
operations
and
myself
we
attended
a
meeting
at
Cooper
Street
on
Monday
night
and
along
with
the
sheriff,
and
it
was
a
it-
was
a
good
good
discussion.
It
was
a
faces
that
some
faces
we
haven't
seen
before
other
faces
that
people
from
the
community
and
it
was
a
rather
and
he
did
at
times,
but
good
discussion
about
what's
going
on
in
the
country
right
now,
regarding
emanating
from
the
George
Floyd
incident,
so
Friday
night,
there
will
be
a
march
in
Punta,
Gorda
and
I'll.
X
They're
gonna
be
practicing
social
distancing,
that's
that's
advertised
in
and
some
of
their
flyers,
and
once
there
they're
gonna
have
a
couple.
People
speak
once
that's
done!
Go
up.
West
Rhetta
go
straight
across
forty
one
and
we'll
manage
all
the
traffic
and
then
they're
going
to
come
up
to
they're
gonna
kind
of
come
across
forty
one
and
then
they'll
come
into
this
parking
lot
here.
They
want
to
stay
here
for
a
couple
minutes.
They're
gonna
do
kneel
for
nine
minutes
and
then
they'll
march
back
the
same
way
they
came
so
as
of
today.
Q
X
And
it's
not
a
permanent
and
generally
when
we
have
people
who
want
to
do
protests,
we
don't
require
them
to
get
permits.
So
you
know
we're
not
doing
something
different
for
this
group,
because
it's
in
Lashley,
Park
and
they're,
saying
they're,
gonna
practice.
Social,
distancing
and
they're
gonna
wear
masks
they're
just
going
to
the
park
like
anybody
else
would
no
permit.
C
A
D
X
They're,
the
other
option
is
that
we
go
and
they
just
they
filter
out
into
Marion
and
Wes,
Retta
and
Harvey,
and
and
now
we're
talking
safety
to
people
driving
in
the
area
and
safety
to
those
that
are
that
might
be
in
the
streets.
So
we
thought
by
directing
them
into
a
parking
lot.
It
would
be
a
little
bit
safer
option
and.
X
L
D
D
D
A
X
Park
this
particular
group
did
a
march
for
life.
I
want
to
say
was
two
years
ago
and
they
met
and
Gilcrest
went
over
the
bridge
and
came
back.
It
ended
up
being
a
thousand
people.
So
if
this
grows
to
a
thousand
people
having
them
filter
out
in
the
streets,
it's
going
to
be
calls
even
more
of
a
situation.
So
we're
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
to
make
sure
everybody
can
be
safe,
see.
C
We
we
can
make
our
make
some
room
by
moving
our
city
vehicles
out
into
the
parking
garage
on
Friday
night
after
work.
Very
simply
done.
We
do
that
for
the
hurricane,
so
that's
room
there.
Yes,
there's
no
question
that
there
will
be
people
and
shorties
eating
and
caramels.
We
know
Carmelo's
Friday
night.
We
know
what
the
issue
is,
so
we're
police
we'll
be
contacting
them
getting
their
reaction,
so
we'll
either
have
the
parking
lot
or
we'll
have
Harvey.
X
D
I
L
C
H
X
J
J
A
T
Of
course,
so
just
a
couple
of
board
items
I'm,
starting
with
vacancies.
We
have
an
unexpired
term
for
an
alternate
on
the
building
board.
That's
all
the
vacancies.
We
have
right
now,
very
good
under
nominations.
We
have
an
unexpired
term
as
an
alternate
on
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals.
We
have
one
eligible
applicant
for
this
seat.
If
you
would
like
to
nominate
an
appointment,
I
need
a
motion
nominate.
A
T
A
T
L
A
A
So
this
week
we
got
the
news
that
Penta
Gorda
has
been
nominated
for
an
award
from
actually
it's
a
Content
that
the
USA
Today
is
hosting,
and
it's
a
ten
best
award
in
the
category
that
we
have
been
nominated
for
is
a
a
Readers
Choice
Award
for
the
small
town
food
scene
and
we're
the
only
city
in
Florida
to
be
nominated
as
such,
and
the
last
time
that
the
Punta
Gorda
went
for
something
it
was
back
in
golly.
How
are
do
you
remember
what
year
it
was?
Is
it
2015?
Maybe
something
like
that?
L
H
A
So
yeah
put
it
in
your
favorites
list
and
go
up
there
and
keep
voting
voting
vote
so
some
other
comments
or
questions.
So
that's
what
I
have
today
to
encourage
everyone
out
there
you'll
get
the
links
to
it.
I'm
not
gonna
give
the
link,
because
the
link
is
really
convoluted,
but
I
think
melissa
is
probably
already
put
it
up
there
on
Facebook
and
it's
it
may
even
be
up
on
the
city's
website.
Already
I
don't
know,
but
you'll
get
the
link
in
that
in
our
weekly
newsletters
for
sure.
D
Just
two
quick
things:
Mitchell
Austin
and
I
have
co-authored
a
letter
that
we
are
sending
to
the
HOA
presidents,
all
throughout
the
city,
asking
for
their
input
on
the
FDOT
Corridor
vision
study,
so
that
we
can
compile
all
that
information
and
forward
it
on
to
FDOT
to
be
incorporated
into
their
planning
process.
We
induct
I,
just
signed
the
letter
this
morning
and
Mitchell's
going
to
be
working
with
staff
to
get
that
sent
out
to
all
the
HOA
presidents.
D
We'll
include
a
copy
of
the
corridor
vision
study
that
was
already
put
together
by
FDOT
and
we're
gonna
hope
to
get
some
responses
back
from
them,
so
it
can
be
helpful
to
them
when
they
go
to
make
any
further
decisions
on
the
41
and
17
corridors
and,
secondly,
something
that
came
up
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks.
That
I
would
like
us
to
think
about
for
a
future
discussion.
We
can't
do
anything
about
it
today
because
it
wasn't
an
agenda
item,
but
the
residential
overlay
districts
have
a
rule
about
parking
boats
on
properties.
D
D
They
had
three
boats
until
about
a
week
ago,
and
I
would
like
to
propose
that
we
have
a
discussion
in
the
future
about
not
allowing
boats
to
be
parked
on
residential
property
for
overnight
extended
periods
of
time
throughout
the
city
and
just
the
residential
overlay
districts
I
think
it's
very
tacky
looking
and
these
are
all
brand
new
houses
where
these
are
located
and
I
think
I
just
think
it
looks
terrible.
So
it's
something
that
I
would
like
us
to
consider
for
a
future
discussion
item.
That's
all
I.
D
It's
not
the
first
time
this
has
happened,
but
this
these
are
brand
new
houses
and
they're
there
in
the
driveway.
One
is
in
the
front
or
on
along
side
of
the
house
and
ones
in
the
rear,
and
they
had
another
one
that
was
across
the
backyard
they
since
removed
that
one
but
I
just
think
I
think
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
that
and
said
whether
that
rule
should
be
applied
universally
across
the
city.
I.
H
H
Going
back
north
to
be
with
her
family,
her
children
are
all
in
college
now
and
she
felt
the
call
of
home
and
the
Civic
Association
was
able
to
hire
a
very
qualified
person
and
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
this,
you
know
to
working
with
her
in
this
at
the
Civic
Association,
but
I
just
wanted
it
on
record
that
we
are
really
gonna,
miss
Regina
and
we
really
appreciate
the
work
that
she
did
helping
us
through
a
very
troubled
time
at
the
Civic
Association
Regina.
H
A
Lot
of
us
yeah
I'm,.
E
A
The
one
thing
I
didn't
mention
when
you
mean
you
were
talking
about
the
FDOT,
the
study
there
that
there
corridor
study
when
I
had
my
individual
meeting
with
them.
They
said
they
learned
that
they
really
needed
to
start
with
working
with
the
community
groups
first
before
they
started
having
workshop
workshops
and
and
started
like
we
do,
building
from
the
ground
up
and
at
a
grassroots
level
first,
and
they
really
learned
a
lot
I
said
yeah,
it's
the
way
to
go.
A
H
Get
to
talk
I
know,
but
in
reading
all
the
resumes
and
all
the
answers
to
all
the
questions
on
the
50-plus
things.
The
one
thing
that
really
came
across
to
me
is
how
lucky
we
are
that
we
have
such
a
collegial
council.
You
know
we
can
disagree
with
each
other
mm-hmm,
but
we
don't
have
each
other
investigated.
We
don't
you.
H
H
D
Read
all
these
I
know
whoa.
This
is
really
I
know.
Well,
that's
what
I
was
saying
earlier
is
about.
You
know
some
of
these
poor
candidates
who
have
had
these
issues
come
up
because
of
the
strong
mayor
government
or
some
unforeseen
circumstance
where
they
have
an
entirely
new
council
comes
on
board
and
they
go.
Oh,
we
don't
like
this.
Guy
he's
gone,
you
know,
and
we
don't
have
that
scenario.
You're
absolutely
right,
I'm
taking
over,
but.
A
D
H
A
Well,
yeah
I
know
that
you
know
people
say
well
the
emails
that
come
in
about
from
the
mayor.
Are
they
expecting
like
that?
I'm
supposed
to
this
is
not
a
strong
mayor
form
of
government,
first
of
all,
I'm
one
of
five
people
and
I'm
a
council
member
just
like
anybody
else.
It
just
happens
to
be-
and
you
know,
Lynn's
the
vice
mayor,
but
you
were
all
one
of
five
people.
So
it's
title
exactly,
but.